Adam Lambert’s Upcoming Album is #2 on Amazon Bestsellers List

Adam Lambert’s upcoming album now sits at #2 on the Amazon Bestsellers list–this, after the album was discovered available for pre-order by fans yesterday afternoon. Word of mouth spread the news quickly via fanboards and twitter, and as the day wore on, Adam’s yet-to-be named album rose quickly up the chart.

Adam’s rise at Amazon was truly a word of mouth phenomenon. There were no announcements from Amazon or Adam’s label RCA, in fact, as of this morning, the album could not be found through a search of “Adam Lambert” on Amazon!

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It hit #2 yesterday evening, and seems to have settled there for now.   Barbara Streisand currently holds the #1 spot.

Adam is beating out: Madonna, The Beatles, Susan Boyle and Michael Jackson.   Not too shabby.

One thing is for sure–Adam’s Idol fanbase is strong and mighty.   All he needs now is a leak of his latest single.   With a push from the media, who clearly seems to adore him (I’m looking at you Rolling Stone!), Adam’s post-Idol debut, could do very well indeed.

Pre-order Adam’s album here:

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  1. ITA, mj. I’m getting the feeling that a lot of people either don’t think it’s a big deal or don’t understand why it’s a big deal. There is no name of the album, no leakage of any songs, no NAME of any songs (TFM doesn’t count), no emails, and an enormous rise in a few hours (and the album is still at #1–no drop). Plus, despite the promotion by the press, RCA hasn’t done *anything* to specifically promote the album.

    And this isn’t big…why?

  2. And released on a Sunday, according to some on another thread (Q3?) historically the slowest moving online sales day.

    And people I’ve told that don’t particularly care much about Idol (but have heard of Adam) are amazed.

    ETA: Certainly there has been press about Adam, and buzz about the album…but no press about a pre-sale being imminent. Or, as suebrody and MJ mention, no leaks of ANY music. Not a note! Yet, there it is, #2 in US and #28 in Japan, climbing in Germany and UK.

  3. Can you imagine how many more Adam Lambert fans would pre-order if only we could buy the CD on iTunes? :)

  4. These are great news, but I still don’t want to let myself get too excited too early. It’s still better than not ranking at all!

    Note to RCA: You still need to promote him! Hope they don’t get too confident and those rumors about the promo that have been circulating for the last few days turn out to be true.

  5. I think it proves that Adam has a huge super-invested Idol fanbase that’s well represented on the internet. It’s a positive indicator, but we’ll see what happens between now and November.

  6. That it got to #2 solely based on word of mouth is definitely impressive and I’m happy for him.

    But (y’all knew there was gonna be a “but”, right? ;)), I hope people don’t read TOO much into it and start making grandiose statements and predictions, because in the grand scheme of the sales scene, Amazon’s sales are a very small number.

  7. As of this afternoon in the UK .. he’s in the top 50 of the Hot Future Release list at Amazon.UK and he’s #19 on the main HMV pre-order chart (HMV is probably the biggest music CD selling chain in the UK, certainly one of the biggest for pre-ordering)

    http://hmv.com/hmvweb/navigate.do?pPageID=2681&WT.ac=asfeaturedin&ctx=12%3b1%3b301%3b-1%3b201

    I know that these charts fluctuate a lot hourly/daily but I’m still amazed at how well he’s doing with International pre-orders when there has been no publicity at all and his position seems to be totally down to his International fans on forums/blogs/the net alone

  8. mj

    Adam’s rise at Amazon was truly a word of mouth phenomenon. There were no announcements from Amazon or Adam’s label RCA, no pre-publicity, in fact, as of this morning, the album could not be found through a search of ‘Adam Lambert’  on Amazon!

    It was truly a vision to behold.

    mj

    One thing is for sure’“Adam’s Idol fanbase is strong and mighty. All he needs now is a leak of his latest single. With a push from the media, who clearly seems to adore him (I’m looking at you Rolling Stone!), Adam’s post-Idol debut, could do very well indeed.

    If RCA could add a picture to his TBD album, or a title, or even fix the Amazon page.. Do something to sustain the no 2 spot on the Bestseller list.
    Perhaps the preview of TFM will help.

    Black Swan

  9. One thing is for sure’“Adam’s Idol fanbase is strong and mighty.

    It’s definitely loud & strong. I’ll be very interested to see how big it really is. Adam surely does have the support, or at least the eye, of major media. His fans will seemingly purchase anything with even the merest mention of Adam. This must be exploited.

    The Donor’s Choose project is/was a wonderful thing. Over $200,000 raised! But it wasn’t 20,000 fans giving $10 each. It averaged out to under 2,000 people giving more than $100/ea. How representative is this of Adam’s core fanbase?

    The people preordering Adam’s album on Amazon aren’t regular folks. They’re plugged-in Idol hardcores. How will this play in the real world? How will their headstart & fervor translate to the average music consumer?

    …despite the promotion by the press, RCA hasn’t done *anything* to specifically promote the album.

    They haven’t had to – the hardcores are starting things for them. RCA doesn’t need to market to Glamberts. RCA will jump in once they must – they’re waiting for the right moment to stoke the flames…

  10. Let me clarify. I’m amazed at the chart placement. But I do not think it is necessarily a significant indicator of Adam’s future prospects.

    I am cautiously optimistic. (And tickled pink!)

  11. And this isn’t big’ ¦why?

    Do you really think there’s sentiment that this isn’t big? I don’t pick that up at all.

    On this blog, though, you’ve got lots of people who’ve been following Idol and particular Idols for years and years. And when you see how many ups and downs and ups and downs happen for most of them — and how some with very fast starts in some way or other end up not doing all that well in some important ways — it makes you hesitant to express ultra-optimism, no matter how good the immediate news.

    A sense of context just makes you not want to crow too soon or jinx anybody before the final tally is in. So far, so great — but there’s a long way to go yet before he actually achieves the level of success that this *might* portend. Idols have a habit of shooting up pretty high on the Amazon bestsellers list just on the basis of somebody reporting on a forum that an album is now up for presale — my other fave, Elliott, has seen some very high numbers there, too, for example.

    And what we don’t know is — Will the album be really great? Will people who’ve loved him all along (like Rolling Stone) decide that the music on the album is inferior and pan it? Will the out-there gay guy really be a huge seller or just a good seller in the America that wouldn’t vote him to the win on American Idol and chose Kris (am I remembering that it was rumored to be kind of a landslide, as well?) instead? I happen to expect everything to work out really well for him, but, really, who knows at this point?

    In any case, though, all of this is nice, and Adam is now set for life, I think, if not as a music icon at least as a very actively working musician with fans around the globe.

  12. Anyone else having a strong urge to want to punch Babs? Every time I see her little smirk when I check Amazon, still sitting at that number 1 position, I don’t know, I get pissed ;)

  13. “in fact, as of this morning, the album could not be found through a search of ‘Adam Lambert” ”

    I found the TBD album today and yesterday on Amazon.com
    Search “adam lambert cd” On the results list i’m looking at it is no.11.

  14. wonderings

    The people preordering Adam’s album on Amazon aren’t regular folks. They’re plugged-in Idol hardcores. How will this play in the real world?

    That’s the $10,000,000 question, the answer to which will solely depend on the quality of the music, and the strength of the promotion

  15. Sarah
    September 28, 2009 at 11:05 am
    That it got to #2 solely based on word of mouth is definitely impressive and I’m happy for him.

    But (y’all knew there was gonna be a ‘but’ , right? ), I hope people don’t read TOO much into it and start making grandiose statements and predictions, because in the grand scheme of the sales scene, Amazon’s sales are a very small number.

    I agree, but am still happy that with just word of mouth it’s doing well. I have high hopes for Adam, huge fantard here, but I’m realistic as I think most Adams fans are. It’s just fun to squee a bit, especially since we’re anxiously awaiting some type of music leak.

  16. Anyone else having a strong urge to want to punch Babs? Every time I see her little smirk when I check Amazon, still sitting at that number 1 position, I don’t know, I get pissed

    I’ve had that urge for years. Long before Adam was a twinkle in Simon Cowell’s eye.

  17. think it proves that Adam has a huge super-invested Idol fanbase that’s well represented on the internet.

    One reason this makes me happy is that I wasn’t too sure Adam had a huge AI fanbase that would buy his CD. Sure, we’re pretty vocal, but Adam didn’t win and he is considered polarizing. I’m still not sure, but I’m a little more hopeful.

  18. Yeah, can’t help myself, had to come into the new glittery padded room during work today.

    LOL Babs-I DO want to wipe that smirk off her face & let the Adam fans show her whose really boss!!!

  19. Looks like you guys have decamped over to this thread, so I’ve brought this over from the other one:

    There still isn’t a picture, a name for the album, or ANY TRACKS LISTED.

    Adam has said that until they know which tracks are going on the album, that’s when they’ll decide on a name for it. He was still recording last week. If they had all the decisions made now, the album would be out before Nov 24th.

    We’ve still got a while to go before the release date. LOL, you lot need to chill out or you’ll be having seizures!

    ETA: Robbie Williams new album is very much anticipated in the UK, but there’s not a constant stream of press and daily updates. It just doesn’t work like that.

  20. I missed the excitement yesterday of the presale zooming up the amazon charts, and today I cannot help but think that this is an amazing thing, given that it was all word of mouth.
    And just who the heck is buying Babs these days anyway? But I digress.
    I get all the caveats — it’s a small percentage in the scheme of things, blah, blah, blah but if RCA was smart they would capitalize on this surge anyway. Fingers crossed that the Adam Storm is setting to commence and something more occurs this week (as in this minute) to sustain his position at amazon and elsewhere and surpass even that.
    One question: I had one of those amazon reminders things, in which I was supposed to be notified when Adam’s cd became available. Granted, it did not specify when presale of cd became available, but I would have expected to be notified yesterday nonetheless and I wasn’t. So even amazon isn’t kicking in on this.
    Well done, Adam fans. We truly are strong and mighty, and so, apparently, are our wallets.

  21. It’s definitely loud & strong. I’ll be very interested to see how big it really is. Adam surely does have the support, or at least the eye, of major media. His fans will seemingly purchase anything with even the merest mention of Adam. This must be exploited.

    The Donor’s Choose project is/was a wonderful thing. Over $200,000 raised! But it wasn’t 20,000 fans giving $10 each. It averaged out to under 2,000 people giving more than $100/ea. How representative is this of Adam’s core fanbase?

    The people preordering Adam’s album on Amazon aren’t regular folks. They’re plugged-in Idol hardcores. How will this play in the real world? How will their headstart & fervor translate to the average music consumer?

    Everything you said is true.
    The only thing that I can say about this amazon pre sale rise is that it’s not bad news, we don’t know if it’s really good news (meaning no way to know how many albums are sold) but it was not a disapointment as was Kris single sales (at least IMO).
    It was pretty clear Adam had a big fanbase who stayed with him after idol but hard to compare with the big fan favorites of seasons past like Cook, Archuleta, Taylor or Clay.

    I think the most telling number of an idol fanbase (how big and how crazy it is) is the first week sales number both for the single and the album.

  22. I think this speaks well for a devoted fanbase and the fact that there are still many Adam fans interested, but getting to #2 even though there wasn’t official word does not exactly mean “OMG SO MANY PEOPLE!!111!” I think internet word of mouth is really enough to make it happen, if there’s a strong fanbase behind you.

    I can’t find the number now, but I think last year we got the number of internet albums (which I believe includes Amazon) sold by David Cook in the first week, and I remember it being something quite low, for an album that had been available on Amazon for 5 months, it had been #2 for days, and had spent around 2 months at least in the top 30 (maybe better, I’m going by memory here). Amazon’s sales are really low.

    So yeah, is #2 nice? Yes! But the numbers aren’t that big. I think Itunes pre-order will translate in better numbers.

    ETA: Oh, and there was also the Analog Heart story. Granted that was digital album, but there was quite the buzz about it being #1 on Amazon and ahead of Mariah Carey and then we got the numbers and it had sold less than 1000 that week. lol Which was somehow funny at the time.

  23. Does anyone know which other idols had their albums released worldwide?

    ETA: I also don’t know how much of a big deal this is. I really hope that Adam does well, but I am pretty sure that I will be buying his first few albums anyway – so I will not lose sleep if he is not quite the hit some think he might be. To me the fact that so many in the industry were keen to work with him says a lot.

  24. I’m most excited about the amazon.com chart of ‘movers and shakers’ , because not only is Adam #1 on this chart, but Kris is #2!

    Cool. That’s a nice little burst of free pr for the guys, anyway. From time to time I look at the Amazon charts, just like I do the Itunes charts, to get some ideas about new things I might want to listen to, and while probably not a huge number of people do this, I’m sure others besides me do too! Nice that they’re up there in those top, visible spots!

  25. The people preordering Adam’s album on Amazon aren’t regular folks. They’re plugged-in Idol hardcores.

    I agree to some extent but I am not a plugged-in Idol hardcore. I am a plugged-in Adam hardcore. I couldn’t care less what any of the other idols this year or past years is doing. Last year was the first year I’ve watched Idol since a couple of episodes in season 1. I wanted to hide my face in shame that I paid money to see the Idol concert, but I went, because of Adam. This is Adam’s effect on “regular” folks.

    If it is hardcore Idol fans driving this why isn’t Kris’s CD higher than it is. I mean he was the winner after all. Don’t get me wrong, I am not bashing Kris just trying to show that I do believe some “regular” folks are driving demand for Adam, not solely Idol fans.

  26. Adam’s album hit #2 within 7 hours.

    Kris’s album is #123 now. It’s available on amazon since 25sep and the highest number of it doesn’t even break #110′ ¦..

  27. I don’t want to be a buzzkill as I’m one of Adam’s biggest fans. I think Adam handedly overtook The Beatles because their album is selling for $195 (no small chunk change). Obviously, they’ll make more money, but not sell as many. Bab’s album is $17. I do think The Beatles are more popular than Streisand; however, she has been around for awhile and still has her huge fanbases. Since she has been promoting her album, it will be difficult to move her out of her #1 slot at this time. C’mon RCA, let’s get the ball rolling while Adam has the momentum.

    mj, nice writeup regarding Adam. Thank you. Looks good in print.

  28. I’m getting the feeling that a lot of people either don’t think it’s a big deal or don’t understand why it’s a big deal.

    It’s only a big deal because it’s happening to an also-ran from Idol, someone who didn’t appear to have a particulary big fanbase from the voting.

    It’s not a big deal for an Idol star, like a winner, to hammer the amazon pre-order charts. It just doesn’t take than many orders and the Idol fanbases can easily do the job.

  29. Oh, I wanted to note that perhaps Kris’s album isn’t selling as well on Amazon because many of his fans (including many Adam fans) pre-ordered his iTunes pass. Don’t you get a lot of extra things on there?

  30. I could be remembering this wrong but Norah Jones had the #1 album on Amazon for something like three months straight in pre orders. I think she set a record for them in weeks at #1. And her total sales for Amazon was around 30K which is nothing to sneeze at but was a small % of her total first week’s sales.

    And this was a few years ago, when albums sold better in general. Just to give you a realistic number for what a #1 album on Amazon probably means.

  31. Mj you better watch out or people will be trying to give you a glambert number, or even more, thinking you already have one!

    However you stack this, it’s big. Not the reinvention of the wheel, but it’s pretty damn good.

  32. If it is hardcore Idol fans driving this why isn’t Kris’s CD higher than it is. I mean he was the winner after all. Don’t get me wrong, I am not bashing Kris just trying to show that I do believe some ‘regular’  folks are driving demand for Adam, not solely Idol fans.

    Kris fans had the itune pass to buy at the end of idol.He won idol his fans don’t have anything to prove “he won”.I saw many people say i got 2 i got 3 preorders for adam’s cd on amazon.Next time your in a familly members house or friend that is not idol invested.Look at there CD collection see if they have 2-3-4 or more copies of there favorite CD.It means nothing in the longhaul but it is all fun for the invested fans.

  33. It’s only a big deal because it’s happening to an also-ran from Idol, someone who didn’t appear to have a particulary big fanbase from the voting.

    I dunno. I always thought he had a pretty big fan base – the second biggest on Idol this year and that’s nothing to sneeze at.

  34. I could be remembering this wrong but Norah Jones had the #1 album on Amazon for something like three months straight in pre orders. I think it was a record for them. And her total sales for Amazon was around 30K which is nothing to sneeze at but was a small % of her total first week’s sales.

    And this was a few years ago, when albums sold better in general. Just to give you a realistic number for what a #1 album on Amazon probably means.

    Interesting facts, jpfan. Here are some more.

    David Cook’s independently released pre-idol album, Analog Heart, was selling on Amazon in March-April of 2008. It made it all the way to #1 for a couple of days (ahead of Mariah Carey’s new album release), and had been in the top 10 for about 1 1/2 months before being taken off of Amazon. It’s interesting that the total sales, as noted by Wikipedia and also by David Cook himself was only around 1500 copies.

    So being a top-seller at Amazon does not necessarily mean that the album will be a huge success. However, it doesn’t hurt.

    ETA: As David Cook would say “Just trying to keep it real folks.”

  35. jpfan
    September 28, 2009 at 11:37 am
    I could be remembering this wrong but Norah Jones had the #1 album on Amazon for something like three months straight in pre orders. I think she set a record for them in weeks at #1. And her total sales for Amazon was around 30K which is nothing to sneeze at but was a small % of her total first week’s sales.

    And this was a few years ago, when albums sold better in general. Just to give you a realistic number for what a #1 album on Amazon probably means.

    If what you are saying is accurate, then Adam may have only sold a thousand or two albums.
    ETA: After reading wordnerd’s post, it could be conceivable that Adam just sold a few hundred albums to make it to #2 (not even #1 like Cook).

  36. her total sales for Amazon was around 30K which is nothing to sneeze at

    the second biggest on Idol this year and that’s nothing to sneeze at.

    Gesundheit.

  37. He jumped ahead of Susan Boyle, Michael Buble, Barbara’s non-deluxe album, Harry Conick Jr, and a $200 Beatles box set. I’m kinda thinking that people who buy their stuff on Amazon are a little “different” than the typical Top 40 pop music listener.

  38. David Cook’s independently released pre-idol album, Analog Heart, was selling on Amazon in March-April of 2008. It made it all the way to #1 for a couple of days (ahead of Mariah Carey’s new album release), and had been in the top 10 for about 1 1/2 months before being taken off of Amazon. It’s interesting that the total sales, as noted by Wikipedia and also by David Cook himself was only around 1500 copies.

    So being a top-seller at Amazon does not necessarily mean that the album will be a huge success. However, it doesn’t hurt.

    well that’s disappointing

  39. If it is hardcore Idol fans driving this why isn’t Kris’s CD higher than it is. I mean he was the winner after all. Don’t get me wrong, I am not bashing Kris just trying to show that I do believe some ‘regular’  folks are driving demand for Adam, not solely Idol fans.

    Of course, there’s also the question of who buys where. I do believe that different fanbases probably have somewhat different buying habits, different Internet habits, etc. Different artists definitely do differently in different sales venues, with some selling more on Itunes than others, some selling mostly in brick-and-mortar stores, some hardly selling *anything* on Amazon (while selling tons in other places) and others selling well there. Given all the demographic differences out there, it’s pretty hard to generalize anything, I think.

  40. I could be remembering this wrong but Norah Jones had the #1 album on Amazon for something like three months straight in pre orders. I think it was a record for them. And her total sales for Amazon was around 30K

    David Cook’s independently released pre-idol album, Analog Heart, was selling on Amazon in March-April of 2008. It made it all the way to #1 for a couple of days (ahead of Mariah Carey’s new album release), and had been in the top 10 for about 1 1/2 months before being taken off of Amazon. It’s interesting that the total sales, as noted by Wikipedia and also by David Cook himself was only around 1500 copies.

    I hope everyone tatoos (copyright Jordin Sparks, 2008) these paragraphs on the insides of their eyelids.

  41. Thanks JPfan for the info on the Amazon numbers. It puts things in perspective. My first clue was to see Barbara Streisand #1 on this.
    Anyhow, it still very nice to see Adam up there :)

  42. It’s only a big deal because it’s happening to an also-ran from Idol, someone who didn’t appear to have a particulary big fanbase from the voting.

    Also-ran? Seriously? Tell that to Rolling Stone, to Lyndsey Parker, to EW.com, to MTV…He didn’t win, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a big fanbase. And 2012 producers don’t consider him an also-ran.

  43. Regardless of how much the album sold, a high chart position creates buzz and marketing… It is a good thing, and I’m ecstatic it’s happening.

    Ultimate album sales, are in the realm of the yet to be determined (or TBD :) )

  44. Sue, take a deep breath, plug in the ipod and listen to something soothing by Adam.

    1) It’s true, by definition, that Adam was an also-ran from Idol.
    2) It’s hwc. You’re responding to hwc. :)

  45. OK, start the handwringing’ ¦he’s at #3 now. Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Come on you hardcore adam fans go buy your 4th 5th and 6th copy.Hurry click(use MJs link) away don’t let your guy flop after just 1 day.

  46. Thanks JPfan for the info on the Amazon numbers. It puts things in perspective. My first clue was to see Barbara Streisand #1 on this.
    Anyhow, it still very nice to see Adam up there

    Definitely. Furthermore, a high chart ranking even if it doesn’t translate to huge numbers is free publicity. People are influenced by bestseller lists – I’m pretty sure that’s why the phenomenon exists in the first place. It’s all good.

    ETA:

    OK, start the handwringing’ ¦he’s at #3 now. Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Also, expect “How to Grow a Family Band Gift Set” to take over his place on movers and shakers in about an hour :).

  47. “It’s only a big deal because it’s happening to an also-ran from Idol, someone who didn’t appear to have a particulary big fanbase from the voting.”

    You didn’t go to the AI tour concert, did you?

  48. “Kris fans had the itune pass to buy at the end of idol.He won idol his fans don’t have anything to prove”

    Except that I personally know Kris fans who are going crazy gifting multiple copies of LLWD to try to plump up sales. Every Idol has fans who feel like they have something to prove. The competition aspect of the show never, ever disappears. (Just ask the Carrie/Kelly fans who still battle almost daily on the boards about which is actually the top seller.)

    As for Adam, I think it’s great that he made such an incredible showing on the Amazon chart within a few hours. Spin it any way you like. The bottom line is, he’s #2 on the chart, and people glancing at the Best Seller list (which I, personally, do on both the Amazon and iTunes charts) are going to see his name. And that’s positive buzz, which is always, always a good thing.

  49. rowenaaine
    September 28, 2009 at 11:51 am
    OK, start the handwringing’ ¦he’s at #3 now. Harry Connick jumped over him.

    DAMN YOU RCA!!! (shaking fists at the heavens)

    (Retreats to a dark room with black curtains to brood while listening to Julie London croon The End Of The World)

  50. OK, start the handwringing’ ¦he’s at #3 now. Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Calling RCA for a picture…

  51. You jinxed him Mj, Adam dropped to third the next hour after your post (jk/).

    Wonder what’s the timing RCA is thinking about. I think they want to make everything happen this week because they need some room before Michael Jackson new single comes out.
    I think we will hear at least a little bit of TFM and his first single before the next week end

  52. Harry just performed on the Today Show. I’m sure that helped. It’s called PROMO.

    And as for WHY people think this is a great thing? It’s because it shows a TREND. I agree that Amazon’s market share is pretty small. But the fact that Adam rocketed to the top on a SUNDAY with ZERO promotion IS impressive.

    Now imagine what he can do when he gets a single out there and starts doing some REAL promotion himself!

  53. Gee, if Adam sold a few hundred, how many did Kris sell? Five?

    Come on BestAI, Kris has a mother, father, brother and several cousins, I think it’s at least 10 total.

  54. Despite all of these comparisons, I am happy that Adam is doing really well with his first album. I am looking forward to the release of his first single.

  55. Gee, if Adam sold a few hundred, how many did Kris sell? Five?

    Come on BestAI, Kris has a mother, father, brother and several cousins, I think it’s at least 10 total.

    LOL. Thanks for that funny, Valentin. I was getting a little depressed reading about the numbers after feeling a huge high yesterday.

  56. Just ordered mine and my Mac Snow Leopard upgrade.

    Well even though he’s at number three his arrow still points upward :-)

    Always look for the positive.

  57. “””Thanks JPfan for the info on the Amazon numbers. It puts things in perspective. My first clue was to see Barbara Streisand #1 on this.
    Anyhow, it still very nice to see Adam up there “””

    Sigh – so jpfan – It is a good thing no matter what you take on it, how you break it down into mi nute pieces – it bodes well for the future

  58. Harry Connick Jr was on Regis this am and some other shows so he is promoting at the moment. Connick is doing oldies. So between Babs and Connick they are hitting only a certain demographic. Chill out guys!!!!!!!

  59. Gee, if Adam sold a few hundred, how many did Kris sell? Five?

    LOL! Yeah, I think there’s a little reverse hyperbole going on here.

    And Cook’s album made it to #1 on the Top Mp3 chart, not the best seller list.

  60. Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry “over him”. I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit.

  61. I dunno. I always thought he had a pretty big fan base ‘“ the second biggest on Idol this year and that’s nothing to sneeze at.

    Yeah. It means that his Idol voting fanbase was maybe as big as those of Justin Guarini, Diana DiGarmo, Bo Bice, Katherine McPhee, or Blake Lewis — all second place finishers who were dumped by their record labels after one album. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listening crooners, the two favorites of grannies and cat ladies everywhere — Clay Aiken and David Archuleta — both of whom got the dreaded “Christmas album” edict from the label.

    Look, I think Lambert has a good chance of being successful and some chance of being huge. I’m just trying to keep it real here. There are reasons that Lambert lost American Idol despite his obvious strengths as a singer, performer, and charismatic personality during the season. We can’t ignore that he lost in season with poor ratings and a week overall field. whose winner is now seeing the debut single bomb.

  62. jericho
    September 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry ‘over him’ . I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit.

    LMAO!

  63. All that points everyone makes are all viable. For me (for You) (yeah Randy you don’t say this much) I expected that when the Album was named and Track listings where known and a snippet of a song was heard that he would be in the top 3 of Amazon, but with no name, no listing, no song it made it to number 2. Even if it was only 2000 that is phenomenal, period. RCA really can not promote anything because as of right now they don’t have anything to promote. (Album name, songs on the Album, 1st single) when a decision is made then promotion will follow. Oh and Harry Connick Jr is doing the talk show circuit promos. Adam nothing. (and he is still number 3)

  64. And Cook’s album made it to #1 on the Top Mp3 chart, not the best seller list.

    I was going to mention that, but you seemed to have beat me to it. Not that I knew the amount, but I remember seeing it was mp3-release, which is a different chart from the physical CD ones (which sell more on amazon). We don’t know how many pre-orders, but we cannot even estimate it from the mp3 chart since it is different.

    I’d still say getting to 2 or 3 by word of mouth is impressive. It may not amount to massive sells, but it’s impressive to me.

  65. Not to ruffle any feathers, but I wasn’t really that impressed with the new Kris Allen song. It’s just sort of predictable to me and doesn’t…impress me? Adam is going to blow up even bigger once his album comes out, as long as it has good material on it. I can’t wait to hear the first single!

  66. I mentioned this yesterday but Target has a nice pretty Harry Connick new album available in stores etc TV commercial that I have seen a few times. Lots of people (me for one) might go to Amazon to order it and have it mailed to them.

    Edit: No, I would not order Harry Connick’s album, but I do go to Amazon to order books, etc. when I see them advertised on TV. Nothing against Harry Connick…just not my music thing.

  67. Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry ‘over him’ . I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit.

    no no … we all know Adam’s “position” on this ..lol

  68. Even if it was only 2000 that is phenomenal period.

    But when you extrapolate from the historical numbers (Cook making it to #1 several days, and in 1 1/2 months sold 1500), the numbers aren’t looking so great for Adam after all. Making it to #2 and dropping to #3 already, our best guess could be albums sold in the low hundreds.

  69. I guess one of the keys right now is, how big is his international audience? I know a lot people, and not just people like me, who aren’t as invested, can’t wait to get his new album. You’ll be surprised how big American Idol is in the rest of the world. We never voted, because we couldn’t (and to be honest, even if I had the chance to, I might have only voted once or twice max seeing how I’m not the voting/polling sort).

    Back to the stats.. While there might be peeps who are buying 2-3 of his album, there are also plenty of us out there, including me, who haven’t contributed to the stats as we’re planning to get it from the physical stores (due to logistics and timing in my case).

  70. I am just guessing, but I doubt if kids shop on Amazon. Most people who shop there seem to be older, look at what they are buying! Nostalgic type stuff! My 60 year old sister in law probably ordered Babs! Although its nice that Adam is doing well on Amazon, particularly with no publicity, the true test will probably be iTunes. This is like a little baby wave before the tidal wave (hopefully) hits. 8)

  71. You didn’t go to the AI tour concert, did you?

    Nope. One Idol Tour concert is my lifetime quota. The economy is bad. I didn’t think that $200 for my wife and I to see a 20 minute set was good value. I have pretty good idea of how the tour went.

    Taylor Hicks knocked ’em dead on the Idol Tour, too — with his Jailhouse Rock entrances from the back of the arenas and through the audiences.

    None of that is why I think Lambert has a shot at being successful. None of that means that he will be.

  72. Mtlfan
    September 28, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry ‘over him’ . I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit.

    no no ‘ ¦ we all know Adam’s ‘position’  on this ..lol

    ROTFLMAO….that was so clever. :-)

  73. hwc – Regarding the 2nd place finishers and a second album – Archuleta didn’t get a “Christmas album edict” from his label for his second album. His fans pushed and pushed for him not to wait to do Christmas musicit so we could have those types of songs (and that amazing voice) to listen to. He is working on his “second” regular cd and it is supposed to come out next year.

    Also, I was wondering, didn’t Cook and Archie get to #2 or #1 on Amazon (I don’t know?) – I do know that Archie hit the Billboard top 200 at #2 – the first singer (Idol or not) do to that in more than 18 months and I thought the only one for 2008? When do the Billboard charts come out. I love Adam and Kris and I wish we could all just enjoy their successes and not always compare – every music career is different.

  74. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listenign crooners, the two favorites of grannies an cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    Well, at least we know that won’t happen to Adam, he’s Jewish!

    Also, I KNEW I shouldn’t have gone to Amazon, but I just couldn’t help myself. I ended up pre-ordering 2 Adam Lamberts, 1 Kris Allen, 1 Buble, 1 Jason Castro, and a partridge in a pear tree!

  75. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listenign crooners, the two favorites of grannies an cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    Shows how much you know…Archuleta didnt get “the dreaed Christmas album edict.” He kinda chose to do that himself, seeing as Jive still has him working on a 2nd pop album. So yea your logic fails.

    As for Adam, yea anything can happen but no Idol in recent history has received the amount of non-Idol press that Adam has. Pre-orders are also nonindicative of actual sales. And for the record, I’m not backtracking, I wasn’t fantarding yesterday over the pre-order thing.

  76. 3 is the new 1!!!!!!!!!

    Seriously though, it was cool to see him jump up there like that, but as I have said many times Amazon is small potatoes, especially now that Itunes is in existence.

  77. Hello,

    Decided to join the group during part of lunch time. So down to number 3. No hand wringing here. I don’t plan to watch the best seller list through November.

    I see no leaks.

  78. Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry ‘over him’ . I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit

    yeah . he probably prefers it to Babs being directly “on top” of him .. unless of course he’d had a bit of a drink and was in his bi-curious mood.

    It’s only natural that those artists with new releases will be promoting their albums at the moment and with each TV appearance their pre-orders will get a boost … Bab’s is doing a special performance and interview on one of our big chat shows in the UK this Friday night so I expect her album pre-orders will rocket followig that.

    As soon as Adam get’s some sort of promo, his figures will rise again too … :-)

  79. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listenign crooners, the two favorites of grannies an cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    Well, at least we know that won’t happen to Adam, he’s Jewish!

    Elliott’s Jewish, and he did a Christmas album! Two of them, in fact. The first because Target asked him to and the second put out on his own the following year (when rights to the Target album reverted to him and he could add a couple of additional songs.) There are great songs on that album, his fans love it, doing it under Target auspices got him a little extra PR, he’s got some additional radio play from it, and it can probably be a steady, if slow, seller for years because styles of holiday music don’t change as much. (Of course, it’s a little different being an indie. Then you make the decision to put out the album yourself, and a much bigger percentage of all the sales go right into your pocket.)

    Not that I expect Adam to do a Christmas or holiday album now or ever, actually! But just to say that — Christmas album is not necessarily a curse. In Clay’s case maybe it did spell the beginning of the end. But I’m not convinced it has that connotation at all for David A. It’s been a good thing for Elliott. And for Josh Groban? Wow.

  80. Just ordered mine and my Mac Snow Leopard upgrade.

    Okay, this is gonna sound dumb, but what did ppl buy along with Adam’s disc? Not including Kris’s album, b/c I already ordered his iTunes pass.

  81. Someone was wondering yesterday whether or not an Idol was #1 in Amazon pre-orders without having a tracklisting or an album title.

    A Google search led me to a Clay board from 2003: he was #1 in pre-orders in just 3 short hours after availability. He had the whole “TBD” placeholder and everything.

  82. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches

  83. But when you extrapolate from the historical numbers (Cook making it to #1 several days, and in 1 1/2 months sold 1500),

    Again, it was #1 on the Mp3 download chart, which is entirely different. Go check the Mp3 download chart currently and compare it with the Best seller chart.

  84. Taylor Hicks knocked ’em dead on the Idol Tour, too ‘” with his Jailhouse Rock entrances from the back of the arenas and through the audiences.

    Frankly, unless he used poisonous gas in his set, the idea of Hick knocking anyone dead but an 80 year old with a bad heart with his musical stylings seems so remote to this brit, that we might as well be talking about alien life on Venus.

    I didn’t watch that season (or any other apart from 8), but I remember seeing clips of him singing, when the the entertainment news carried that he won, and wondering “WTF were they voting for?!!”

  85. And Cook’s album made it to #1 on the Top Mp3 chart, not the best seller list.

    Oh good, others posted this, cuz that was misleading. It definitely takes fewer units to top the MP3 album list on Amazon. But jpfan’s Norah Jones stat was interesting.

    The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listening crooners, the two favorites of grannies and cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    Sure, Archie has granny fans who will buy his Christmas album, but I wouldn’t call his debut album an easy-listening crooner album. It’s decidedly teeny-bopper.

    Well, at least we know that won’t happen to Adam, he’s Jewish!

    Elliot did a Christmas album! Oh, and his “regular” music not the easy listening crooner type either. I dunno, a lot of artists who do current music do Christmas albums because they have good voices and perhaps an interesting take.

  86. Good for Adam. He’s worked hard for 10 years to get this, he’s developed an unbelievable talent, and he knows music. Go get ’em!!!

  87. A Google search led me to a Clay board from 2003: he was #1 in pre-orders in just 3 short hours after availability. He had the whole ‘TBD’  placeholder and everything.

    Clay also sold 600,000 albums his first week.

  88. Shows how much you know’ ¦Archuleta didnt get ‘the dreaed Christmas album edict.’  He kinda chose to do that himself, seeing as Jive still has him working on a 2nd pop album. So yea your logic fails.

    Of course, he’s “working on his second album”. Probably “doing a lot of writing”, right?

    Every living Idol is always “working on their next album” and “doing a lot of writing”. Hell, Lil Rounds is probably “working on her album”.

  89. A Google search led me to a Clay board from 2003: he was #1 in pre-orders in just 3 short hours after availability. He had the whole ‘TBD’  placeholder and everything.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Clay’s first album sell something like 2 million units? If that’s the precedent to this phenominon, I’ll take it and thank god on bended knees.

  90. suebrody
    September 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Okay, this is gonna sound dumb, but what did ppl buy along with Adam’s disc? Not including Kris’s album, b/c I already ordered his iTunes pass.

    LOL, I ended up going to Amazon UK and saw all these cheap discounted CDs/DVDs from various artists that I’ve been wanting to buy but wasn’t able to get in Singapore from my usual music store lol. They’re in my shopping cart now, just need to purchase them now. Also, I saw a couple of Japanese books in Amazon JP in the process. Might purchase a couple of books from my fav online Japanese bookstore (not Amazon). Oh Adam you should be credited for boosting the publishing and music economies.

  91. I bought the latest Cheap Trick DVD for my husband for Christmas when I pre-ordered Adam’s cd. He’s a huge Cheap Trick fan.

    MJ, do you know if anything is getting leaked soon? You can say yes without revealing anything, right?

    Adam storm? I’m hoping for the first sprinkle any time now.

  92. Frankly, unless he used poisonous gas in his set, the idea of Hick knocking anyone dead but an 80 year old with a bad heart with his musical stylings seems so remote to this brit, that we might as well be talking about alien life on Venus.

    Well, you might be surprised. I went to the Season Five concert as a big Elliott fan and a lesser Daughtry fan. Had not been particularly impressed with Taylor.

    But when he performed at that concert, what was clearly obvious about him was that he really really really *knows* how to put together a set that works and that he knows how to entertain a crowd. I ended up very impressed by the way he came across as a fine, experienced, polished pro through his whole performance, how the set hung together brilliantly just because of the little touches he was putting into it. In short, I think he did blow the audience away pretty much.

    In fact, even though they’re nothing alike musically and Adam has a voice that Taylor could never touch in a million years, I would put Taylor and Adam together as the two most thoroughly professional-seeming performers ever on AI. Both very impressive in that regard (and way more impressive to me as sheer *pro* *performers* even than Bo, the other that I would say came into the show and the tour with the most performance prowess, even though I love Bo’s voice and his choice of music and such much more than I like Taylor’s).

  93. A Google search led me to a Clay board from 2003: he was #1 in pre-orders in just 3 short hours after availability. He had the whole ‘TBD’  placeholder and everything.

    Clay also sold 600,000 albums his first week.

    I had no idea. That’s amazing for 2003 and I’d venture to say virtually unheard of now.

    I’m certain Adam would be beyond thrilled with those kind of #’s … I certainly know that I would.

  94. Hey Tony- that was me who asked that yesterday- thanks! By any chance do you know if that became available right after the finale, like the Davids’ or after the tour, like Adam?

    Itunes was introduced January 2001, so it was still kind of a baby by 2003, Clay’s year. It would be kind of hard to do any comparisons with those years. And I am only comparing to kind of get a feel for sales, not to try to prove he has something over Clay or the David’s. FWIW, I don’t think we are going to know the true success of Adam or Kris until the songs are on the radio and they start charting.

  95. Well, Clay is an example that album sales is far from the most important achivement for an artist. I cringe everytime when Adam is compared with Clay.

  96. Yesterday was a great day to be an Adam fan!
    Such fun is a rare and wonderful thing.

    I know that Amazon does not sell huge numbers, and that making the bestsellers list may not represent that big a deal. I know that until the music hits we have nothing to go on and that wild speculation is useless and overly optimistic.

    And I don’t care.

    I’m excited, it feels good to be excited, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being excited, and I am going to continue to be excited.

    No amount of “buts” or “ifs” are going to bring me down- I will just la-la-la and be a happy happy Adam fan who is wallowing in anticipation and feeling good all the while.

    Squeee!!!!!!!
    Flail!!!!!!!!!
    Bring on the storm!!!!!

  97. Oh yeah you reminded me of the point I was going to make before I got distracted by the other comments in the thread. LOL. THIS, and also, we have no idea how the ranking algorithm actually works since it’s based on a weighted scale. Let’s just see how it all pans out. It’s only day 2 and there’s nearly 2 months to go. Personally, this ranking is a nice-to-have but what’s more important is the long term sales and not short term rise. I’m hoping that it’s the actual music that will sell in the long run and not just hype. #blackswan

  98. Gee, if Adam sold a few hundred, how many did Kris sell? Five?

    Come on BestAI, Kris has a mother, father, brother and several cousins, I think it’s at least 10 total

    Valentin432-you forgot Katy-his wife-so that would make 11.

  99. I’m excited, it feels good to be excited, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being excited, and I am going to continue to be excited.

    No amount of ‘buts’  or ‘ifs’  are going to bring me down- I will just la-la-la and be a happy happy Adam fan who is wallowing in anticipation and feeling good all the while.

    Squeee!!!!!!!
    Flail!!!!!!!!!
    Bring on the storm!!!!!

    YES!! Buderschnookie, I’m with you on this. We have enough crap to bring us to our knees — why not enjoy the glittery happiness that is Adam!

  100. I cringe everytime when Adam is compared with Clay.

    I didn’t start watching AI until Season 5 and know almost nothing about Clay, but his first week #’s appear to have been very impressive.

    I was referring to #’s only as that’s the only comparison I can make…

  101. Of course, he’s ‘working on his second album’ . Probably ‘doing a lot of writing’ , right?

    Every living Idol is always ‘working on their next album’  and ‘doing a lot of writing’ . Hell, Lil Rounds is probably ‘working on her album’ .

    Maybe he is doing alot of writing. Maybe Lil is working on an album. I’m not sure I understand your point.

    The worlds artists/musicians are discovered in many ways. For me, there really is no right or wrong way. The Idols work hard (and in many ways harder to combat this weird stigma that is attached to their talent). I thank Idol for giving us Daughtry, the Davids, Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood, Elliott Yamin, Allison Iraheta, Kris Allen and Adam Lambert (to name just a few). They are musicians and artists just like anyone else on the charts, working on their albums and maybe writing some of their music. I do wonder how many of them we would be enjoying without their Idol exposure.

  102. hwc – what is wrong with doing “a lot of writing?” on a second album. I assume that Adam wants to do some writing too. And since that was a criticism of Archie, I happen to love the songs that Archie has co-written (Zero Gravity, Works for Me, A Little Too Not Over You, Somebody Out There, Falling)…and he has a legit second regular album in the works – I am looking forward to it, Adam & Kris’ albums, and really can’t wait for Alison I to get finished music out there for us!

  103. Studio57: Clay’s album was available July 4th. (here’s the link for reference: here). I assume that that was during the season 2 tour.

  104. I would put Taylor and Adam together as the two most thoroughly professional-seeming performers ever on AI

    It’s a matter of individual taste ofcourse, so this is only my opinion, but to me Taylor will always be a YAWN. Not only do I find him uncharismatic and boring, I find both his voice and his music pedestrian, unimaginative and positively archaic. An appearance of Polish and professionalism can be learnt with time, charisma, talent and imagination however can not.

  105. Well, Clay is an example that album sales is far from the most important achivement for an artist. I cringe everytime when Adam is compared with Clay.

    Not comparing the two in any way. Just as I don’t think JPFan was comparing Adam to Norah Jones. People were spouting out sales numbers of other artists who were at the top of the various best seller charts as proof that being at the top means zilch. Clay’s first week numbers are the only ones I happen to know, so I wanted to use them to point out that, yes, someone who makes it to the top of the best seller chart really CAN have great sales.

  106. With all the hoopla with have now on Adam’s pre-order album, I’d like to ask all the idol veterans in mjsblog about “hidden track” and “bonus track”. I want to make sure that I will get both of these tracks from Adam album.

    Someone mentioned on the other forum that bonus track only available if you pre-order from i-Tunes and if you buy it from i-Tunes after the pre-order period you won’t get it. You will get “hidden track” if you buy a hardcopy from any store (Target, Walmart & Bestbuy). Now are we getting this hidden track from Amazon?

    Thank you for your help.

  107. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listenign crooners, the two favorites of grannies an cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    I must be one of those grannies or cat ladies (come to think of it, I do have a cat) but I love Christmas cds. I have Clay’s, I have a combination Christmas compilation of season 1 and 2 contestants singing Christmas music and when I pre-ordered Adam’s cd, I also ordered Archies Christmas cd :)

  108. In fact, even though they’re nothing alike musically and Adam has a voice that Taylor could never touch in a million years, I would put Taylor and Adam together as the two most thoroughly professional-seeming performers ever on AI.

    I would agree with that.

    Taylor failed in the marketplace because, in the post-Clay era, selling to the Idol fanbase is not enough. The only way to have a big Idol release now is to tap into an existing radio market — teen top 40 or country or urban (although I don’t see Idol ever having another black winner). Taylor had nowhere to go in the radio market. People complain that RCA didn’t push a single, but there was nowhere to push a single to for Taylor.

    One of the reasons I’m a debbie-downer is that you have to step outside the Idol bubble to see the market-place clearly.

    I am a huge Lambert fan. I think he is by far the best male singer and most charismatic performer who has ever been on American Idol. I thnk he has a serious chance of blowing up huge in the marketplace. He has the potential to be a larger-than-life papparazzi persona, which is what it takes to sustain a top 40 pop career. If he does have that kind of success, it won’t have anything to do with Amazon presales. It will be from the top 40 airplay and iTunes download charts — the two measures of teen pop purchasing.

    There’s just nothing in it for me, as a fan, to have that as my expectation. If I go into it realistically and he sells just OK, then I’m not disappointed. If he blows up, I’m happy whether I predicted it or not. In football, we call it “winning the offseason”. Doesn’t count for anything.

    I knew four weeks before the finale that Adam couldn’t win Idol. My wife thought I was crazy. She never even dreamed Adam wouldn’t win. Yet, it was obvious that there were simply too many anybody-but-Adam votes consolidating in the final weeks that would dwarf his fanbase when it got down to the final two. Then, the magazines and the cable news stories hit in the last couple of weeks and it was over.

  109. The only two second place finishers who got second albums were the easy-listenign crooners, the two favorites of grannies an cat ladies everywhere ‘” Clay Aiken and David Archuleta ‘” both of whom got the dreaded ‘Christmas album’  edict from the label.

    Here’s hoping for a Black Swan.

  110. With all the hoopla with have now on Adam’s pre-order album, I’d like to ask all the idol veterans in mjsblog about ‘hidden track’  and ‘bonus track’ . I want to make sure that I will get both of these tracks from Adam album.

    Someone mentioned on the other forum that bonus track only available if you pre-order from i-Tunes and if you buy it from i-Tunes after the pre-order period you won’t get it. You will get ‘hidden track’  if you buy a hardcopy from any store (Target, Walmart & Bestbuy). Now are we getting this hidden track from Amazon?

    Thank you for your help.

    Hard to tell, but if it’s something that’s actually going to be available in every *store.* then it would seem that it would be on the Amazon cd also, since Amazon gets those “store” cds.

    (and pulls all of the cds it ships out of the same bin, as some of us have found when we’ve tried to order a *Target* cd online because of a bonus track — Target ships through Amazon, so when you order a supposed Target cd online, you actually get the Amazon cd, which won’t have the Target-only tracks!)

    Which is all to say that it’s very hard to tell. The companies keep shifting around what they do with bonuses and hidden tracks, in an effort to keep the diehard I-must-have-every-track-so-and-so-puts-out fans buying *everywhere.* And I assume they’ll keep on doing this.

  111. Tony
    September 28, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    Studio57: Clay’s album was available July 4th. (here’s the link for reference: here). I assume that that was during the season 2 tour.

    So basically, Clay’s album was available for pre-order in conjunction with his Rolling Stone cover which had an issue date of July 10th and a release/newstand date 7-10 days earlier. Thank you google, I thought I remembered some synergy there. Nice promotion for the presale, don’t you think? Wonder how Adam’s preorder would have gone had it been the same time as his Rolling Stone cover?

    Either way, happy for Adam, I have high hopes for his success and the future. If he fails and I’m relagated to searching high and low for indy or self-made releases or searching him out on the stage, believe me, I’ll do that. His voice and talent is that special.

  112. An appearance of Polish and professionalism can be learnt with time, charisma, talent and imagination however can not.

    I totally agree!

    I was responding to your saying that he couldn’t possibly have overwhelmed live audiences, though, and, the fact remains that he pretty much did on the AI tour. Saw it with my own eyes and responded to it myself, even though, before or since, I almost certainly wouldn’t buy a Taylor album or go to a Taylor-only concert! He had the audience in the palm of his hand throughout his very very tight and polished set, and it was a most impressive performance.

    (I respect Taylor a lot as a live performer, and I respect his taste and abilities in music and have liked a few of his songs, but I couldn’t accurately be labeled a Taylor fan at all, and didn’t think he came across well in the least on TV.)

  113. Adam is #3 in the bestsellers list, but still #1 in the Movers & Shakers list: http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/music/ref=pd_ts_m_mte

    Btw, in Amazon UK, Adam ´s album do have a pic. Why pictures on one and not on the others?

    I think that Adam getting to #2 in a less than a day is important. Kris had not gotten to the top 100 since his album was publicly announced to be for pre-order.
    Last night I visited a Kris fansite and the kids were really mad at Adam being #2, and were asking all fans to buy Kris ´ album.

    So, even if he goes down for a while, until there is promo for him, for me this is great. I am sure that as soon as his album is available in iTunes, he will go up.

    ETA: Kris went down from twenty something to 57 on the iTunes Top 200. I have not checked this afternoon, but it was there this morning.

  114. Someone mentioned on the other forum that bonus track only available if you pre-order from i-Tunes and if you buy it from i-Tunes after the pre-order period you won’t get it. You will get ‘hidden track’  if you buy a hardcopy from any store (Target, Walmart & Bestbuy). Now are we getting this hidden track from Amazon?

    We won’t know until the album is released.
    They do things differently all the time, so we have to wait and see.

    But it is very possible that you will need to buy a WalMart copy, a Target copy, and a digital copy from iTunes to get everything.

  115. Taylor had nowhere to go in the radio market. People complain that RCA didn’t push a single, but there was nowhere to push a single to for Taylor.

    One of the reasons I’m a debbie-downer is that you have to step outside the Idol bubble to see the market-place clearly.

    I am a huge Lambert fan. I think he is by far the best male singer and most charismatic performer who has ever been on American Idol. I thnk he has a serious chance of blowing up huge in the marketplace. He has the potential to be a larger-than-life papparazzi persona, which is what it takes to sustain a top 40 pop career. If he does have that kind of success, it won’t have anything to do with Amazon presales. It will be from the top 40 airplay and iTunes download charts ‘” the two measures of teen pop purchasing.

    There’s just nothing in it for me, as a fan, to have that as my expectation. If I go into it realistically and he sells just OK, then I’m not disappointed.

    I agree with this completely.

  116. jericho
    September 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm
    Harry Connick jumped over him.

    Maybe Adam’s ok with Harry ‘over him’ . I know I wouldn’t mind it one bit.

    Hee Hee, NGL, I got a very nice/naughty picture in my head from that post..LOL

  117. Btw, in Amazon UK, Adam ´s album do have a pic. Why pictures on one and not on the others?

    It’s just an old stock pic that Amazon UK probably have lying around .. they often do that when they don’t have the completed artwork for an Album .. I’ve seen them do that for a lot of artists while they wait for the real deal.

  118. Thanks for amazon.com recommendations. :)

    I know that iTunes nearly always gives additional tracks IF you buy the album. If you buy the singles separately, no. So Cook’s album got you ToML (second one for me) as well as a beautiful song called My Last Request. Sometimes you have to buy the “deluxe” album, which is called just that. For Kelly, you got a video, the making of the video, and an extra song, I believe. For Daughty, you can pay $12.99 and get a bonus track, and for $16.99, you also got three videos. Also, iTunes is now offering something called the “library” album, which comes with add’l material. I bought that for Muse–very cool. The album was $11.99 and that was the only way you could buy it (you also needed the latest version of iTunes).

    I don’t know about amazon, but if you get an extra song, that is NOT the one you get from iTunes.

    ETA:

    Someone mentioned on the other forum that bonus track only available if you pre-order from i-Tunes and if you buy it from i-Tunes after the pre-order period you won’t get it.

    I don’t think that’s true…

  119. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches

    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be “We Three Queens”.

  120. hwc
    September 28, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    Taylor failed in the marketplace because, in the post-Clay era, selling to the Idol fanbase is not enough. The only way to have a big Idol release now is to tap into an existing radio market ‘” teen top 40 or country or urban (although I don’t see Idol ever having another black winner). Taylor had nowhere to go in the radio market. People complain that RCA didn’t push a single, but there was nowhere to push a single to for Taylor.

    One of the reasons I’m a debbie-downer is that you have to step outside the Idol bubble to see the market-place clearly.

    I am a huge Lambert fan. I think he is by far the best male singer and most charismatic performer who has ever been on American Idol. I thnk he has a serious chance of blowing up huge in the marketplace. He has the potential to be a larger-than-life papparazzi persona, which is what it takes to sustain a top 40 pop career. If he does have that kind of success, it won’t have anything to do with Amazon presales. It will be from the top 40 airplay and iTunes download charts ‘” the two measures of teen pop purchasing.

    There’s just nothing in it for me, as a fan, to have that as my expectation. If I go into it realistically and he sells just OK, then I’m not disappointed. If he blows up, I’m happy whether I predicted it or not. In football, we call it ‘winning the offseason’ . Doesn’t count for anything.

    I knew four weeks before the finale that Adam couldn’t win Idol. My wife thought I was crazy. She never even dreamed Adam wouldn’t win. Yet, it was obvious that there were simply too many anybody-but-Adam votes consolidating in the final weeks that would dwarf his fanbase when it got down to the final two. Then, the magazines and the cable news stories hit in the last couple of weeks and it was over.

    I â™ ¥ your post.
    While there I was posting all the Amazon rankings and b.s. yesterday, that was just because it’s fun and not because I have any real expectations that he’ll hit #1 or 2 on Billboard anyway. I tend to prefer to keep my expectations low so I don’t get disappointed (but of course there’s always the other side that hopes for the best).

    During the idol season, I had the sinking feeling after his bottom 2 appearance that he wouldn’t win simply because of the pimping from the judges and media (America likes their underdogs) and the stupid EW article on whether he was gay or not which would have contributed to hate votes.

    OTOH, his talent is undeniable and if his album does decently well, I can totally see him getting invited to perform at tween events like the VMAs next year. The media loves him, celebrities love him, he’s got PR and charisma, and he totally fits into the mold of what’s current now judging from the theatrics in this year’s VMAs. That would certainly help to secure him a whole new non-AI audience. (On a shallower note, he’s good looking as well)

  121. Can someone please refresh my memory on what Black Swan means? I can’t recall.

    Some Aimee Mayo twitters indicate she should hear from Adam today. I am sure she will let the world know when she does!

  122. hehe I pre-ordered my copy yesterday when I found out it was available here on this site…thank you MJ!

  123. The price of Adam’s album has been discounted on Amazon. You can now buy it for $9.99.

    ETA: so it looks like you’ll have to order something more to get that free shipping suebrody ;). Do you like crime novels? If so, you may want to consider the Stieg Larsson books – they’re very popular :lol:

  124. Back in the early 90’s I worked for a small personal management firm in LA. My boss managed the careers of some newbies with major label deals, some well known industry veterans, and one bonafide superstar – who actually has quite a bit in common with Adam. Only our superstar was getting the kind of media coverage and respect from industry insiders that Adam is getting now. If any of our newbies were, especially before they even had an album out, we would have freaked! Someone else mentioned that they believed Adam would be set for life as far as having a career in the music industry, and I agree with this 100%. If RCA, his management, etc. do their jobs right he has the potential to be huge, but he will always have a career be ause his voice is one in a million IMHO. BTW, I’ve never followed AI after the finale before, never attended a concert or bought a CD. This year I shelled out $300 for two tickets to watch Adam for twenty minutes – he was worth any penny – and I’ve preordered his CD. I am not an overinvested idol fan, Adam just blew me away! Oh and in the former position I mentioned the only artist we worked with who had a level of talent Adam possesses was our superstar client,although I think Adam has a bit more charisma.

  125. In fact, even though they’re nothing alike musically and Adam has a voice that Taylor could never touch in a million years, I would put Taylor and Adam together as the two most thoroughly professional-seeming performers ever on AI.

    Other than not thinking Taylor was very marketable, I didn’t think he had much of a personality. He was on LKL and a couple of other night shows, and he didn’t seem to have much to say. I think in that area, he is very different from Adam (personality).

  126. The price of Adam’s album has been discounted on Amazon. You can now buy it for $9.99.

    Yes, they just reduced the price only one day after they put it on sale, kind of strange (the people who pre ordered it before will pay 9.99, right?).

    I checked for KRis and it’s still 13.98.

  127. lob
    September 28, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    The price of Adam’s album has been discounted on Amazon. You can now buy it for $9.99.

    Hmmmm…start of the promotional efforts?? At least with pre-orders, you get the discounted price if it goes lower than it was when you first ordered.

  128. I know that iTunes nearly always gives additional tracks IF you buy the album. If you buy the singles separately, no. So Cook’s album got you ToML (second one for me) as well as a beautiful song called My Last Request

    Someone mentioned on the other forum that bonus track only available if you pre-order from i-Tunes and if you buy it from i-Tunes after the pre-order period you won’t get it.

    I don’t think that’s true’ ¦

    If my memory serves me correctly, the bonus track of “My Last Request” was only available with the I-tunes pre-order. Once the album was released, MLR was no longer for sale. I did go to I-Tunes and pull up his album, and MLR is not listed. (TOML is included as a regular track on every copy of DCTR.)

    So it is very possible that any bonus track being used as an exclusive to advertise Adam’s pre-order on I-Tunes, might disappear once the actual album is released.

  129. realvivi
    September 28, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    New Pics of ADAM

    HA.HA.HA.

    Can’t speak for anyone else, but I think he looks YUMMY!

  130. In general, Amazon tends to have discounted prices on CD’s. I wonder if they have set deals with the labels that they get quantity discounts and those go into effect when they “sell” the number needed to reach that discount.

    Nearly every book I’ve bought as a pre-release from Amazon has gone DOWN in price before it actually ships. This has happened at least a dozen times – but I don’t know if it is normal for CD’s since I’ve never bought a pre-release for this before.

  131. it will be interesting to see how well adam, kris and danny perform in the mainstream music market, and how well they do vis a vis airplay… everyone’s taste musically is subjective, how one classifies ”real” music as opposed to ”unreal” music is up to them… if marketed correctly, and with a little vision, all three of these young men could enjoy successful careers, as all three have three unique styles that appeal and sometimes overlap in the same demographics… coming off idol with a plethora of hype does give one a leg up in establishing the presence and brand in the media, and outside the idol bubble, but it still is no guarantee that contestants will find enduring success, monster album or singles sales – nor does having little fanfare doom one to the ash heaps… the music industry is a crap shoot at best, so i tend to look at them all as even going onto the playing field… everything from this moment forward must be fought for and earned…

  132. hwc

    I am a huge Lambert fan. I think he is by far the best male singer and most charismatic performer who has ever been on American Idol. I thnk he has a serious chance of blowing up huge in the marketplace. He has the potential to be a larger-than-life papparazzi persona, which is what it takes to sustain a top 40 pop career. If he does have that kind of success, it won’t have anything to do with Amazon presales. It will be from the top 40 airplay and iTunes download charts ‘” the two measures of teen pop purchasing.

    Absolutely agree.

    I would add that radio play and Itunes downloads depend on the type and quality of the music and just as importantly on the promotion.

    The Amazon chart listing is nice as a bonus promotion tool, but of the album doesn’t come through with good music and the label and doesn’t push it to radio and support it with a decent video then it will ultimately disappoint.
    Fandom numbers are never enough to make for hit sales, not even for established artists, not any more. You need the casual listener, and you always need new fans.

  133. How old is that pic?

    – wow, the swashbuckler facial hair is charming!

  134. He looks hot! I’m not big on facial hair, especially facial hair that I know is dyed to match ones hair color, but he still looks hot.

  135. realvivi
    September 28, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    New Pics of ADAM

    HA.HA.HA.

    LOL LOL. ONTD_AI is exploding right now. I’ll leave the sanity to MJ’s and the insanity to ONTD_AI. Bye guys! :)

  136. The new pics…yummy in a thoroughly delightful and naughty way!

  137. Best AI – I am at the office – couldn’t help laughing out loud at “We 3 Queens’ and “Silent Night Bitches!! LOL – Then some coworkers walked by and asked what I was grinning at?? MJ’s is my secret here at work!!1

  138. Is that a recent pic of Adam? Like this past week?

    Where is this media blitz we were hearing about?

  139. realvivi
    September 28, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    New Pics of ADAM

    HA.HA.HA.

    Wow…I like it. He looks relaxed and happy and hot. I didn’t think the facial hair looked dyed, it looks lighter than his brows, there just seems to be a lot of it. If that’s recent or from this weekend in New Orleans, more power to him for forsaking the grooming to just let it all be. He’s gonna be busy soon enough.

  140. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches
    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be ‘We Three Queens’ .

    LMAO! I’d buy that for everyone I know

  141. 4evrmomof4
    September 28, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    is that a NOLA pic? Are there more yummy ones like that around?

    Not sure, but it looks like it.

  142. I thought it looked recent (and obviously in a bar, so NOLA?). He does look happy and relaxed, like he’s gotten quite a bit of sleep(and fill-in-the-blank)lately. I love the facial hair on him; not all the time, mind you, but it’s nice to change things up from time to time.

    More please! And some leaks please!

  143. lob
    September 28, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    The price of Adam’s album has been discounted on Amazon. You can now buy it for $9.99.!!

    Now I am NEVER GONNA GET TO THE $25.00 free shipping price. Will need to buy as is. ;) And that didn’t take long!

    ETA: Facial hair. :( Goodbye, emo!Adam. We hardly knew ye…

    ETA: Thanks re: amazon. Might need to do that…

  144. Squirrely
    September 28, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    terraj is that you in your avatar? If so ‘“ very pretty.

    Thanks Squirrely. That’s just a good pic that’s all. :)

    realvivi
    September 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    YEP, it’s a recent pic, from NOLA, i beleive
    another one http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/SarKadz/10129_827440675325_23402655_4891692.jpg

    It was from a Facebook pic. I donno how ONTD_AI does it but amazing internet stalking skills are amazing. He’s labelled “Sam Green” in those photos btw. LOL. I guess pirate face + Sam Green = his idea of incognito

  145. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches
    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be ‘We Three Queens’ .

    LMAO! I’d buy that for everyone I know

    OMGz – that’s too funny!

    And the pics – wow – Johnny Depp fantasies coming true is all I gots to say…

  146. suebrody, this may not be useful for you, but I’m an Amazon Prime member. I buy a lot of gifts and other items through them, so Prime membership (don’t recall the fee) gets me free shipping on most everything, regardless how much the order is for. I usually have the gifts shipped right to the recipient, and 2-day shipping is also usually free. (I got 2 day free shipping for Adam’s album.)

  147. On bonus tracks:

    The bonus track on iTunes for David Cook’s album was only available if you pre-ordered. The bonus track on the physical CDs sold at Walmart is still available. If you wanted all the songs, you had to buy both. Or wait for some enterprising fan to put the one you didn’t buy on to Megaupload.

  148. Those pics – he’s better looking and more exciting than most movie stars.

  149. I wonder if that is the private party where Adam performed. It doesn’t look like a bar when he just popped in, because they wouldn’t serve drinks in plastic cups.

  150. It was from a Facebook pic. I donno how ONTD_AI does it but amazing internet stalking skills are amazing. He’s labelled ‘Sam Green’  in those photos btw. LOL. I guess pirate face + Sam Green = his idea of incognito

    Let me guess, the facebook page used Drake’s name for the pics and from there Adam’s were discovered..lol. Icognito = FAIL. So, can’t do ONTD_AI at work, are they flailing in a good way??

  151. BestAI
    September 28, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    I wonder if that is the private party where Adam performed. It doesn’t look like a bar when he just popped in, because they wouldn’t serve drinks in plastic cups.

    But why would a private party have wristbands? Looks like a regular bar to me, I’ve been to some rowdy bars that served in plastic cups, cut down on the breakage. :)

  152. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches
    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be ‘We Three Queens’ .

    LMAO! I’d buy that for everyone I know

    OMGz ‘“ that’s too funny!

    And the pics ‘“ wow ‘“ Johnny Depp fantasies coming true is all I gots to say’ ¦

    Did anyone get “Jingle Balls” for the christmas album…LOL!

    Also, if you want to go old school…I think Adam has sort of a Clark Gable thing going on with the facial hair!

  153. but I think most young people are pretty open to races other than their own

    therein lies the rub, so to speak, idol audience wise… the teen viewership has been dwindling steadily year to year, while the avg. age of the idol viewer is rising – i think the median viewer age was 40 last time i looked… not saying there is no open mindedness and acceptance in this demographic, but for a person ”of color”, with a predominately white, older, somewhat conservative religious leaning demo as the primary audience, it’s gonna take more than a great singing voice to emotionally invest viewers to the same degree as one would be invested in say, a nice southern boy from arkansas… not being provocative, just real.

  154. All the gloom and dooming on this thread is very appropriate. Nothing good can come from Adam Lambert rising anywhere close to #1 on amazon’s bestseller list…in fact, it’s a sure sign of the End Times. I understand it all now, thanks to you. Kris, Adam, Gokey and Allison are the literal Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and amazon preorders have broken the Seventh Seal.

    Believe me when I tell you this, the obvious fact is that Adam’s success in amazon preorders means nothing but total failure. How could it mean anything else? But is that really worth commenting on when minions of the anti-Christ are already taking your order at Burger King drive throughs? Damn you, Adam Lambert, now see what you’ve done!

  155. When I said swashbuckler look, I guess I was vaguely masking my Johnny Depp crush!

    Luv this relaxed casual look!

    I nearly spit my coffee out on my work keyboard- I can just imagine the ‘Silent Night, Bitches” holiday song!!!LOL

    I am pathetic- more pics, please, I don’t really want to work right now anyway!!!

  156. But why would a private party have wristbands? Looks like a regular bar to me, I’ve been to some rowdy bars that served in plastic cups, cut down on the breakage.

    OK, I’ve just never been to a bar or club where they served drinks in plastic cups, but then I’ve prolly been to .0001% of the total bars in the country.

  157. In fact, even though they’re nothing alike musically and Adam has a voice that Taylor could never touch in a million years, I would put Taylor and Adam together as the two most thoroughly professional-seeming performers ever on AI. Both very impressive in that regard (and way more impressive to me as sheer *pro* *performers* even than Bo, the other that I would say came into the show and the tour with the most performance prowess, even though I love Bo’s voice and his choice of music and such much more than I like Taylor’s).

    I agree, mostly!

    An appearance of Polish and professionalism can be learnt with time, charisma, talent and imagination however can not.

    Well I certainly think he has the talent and charisma in spades. Taylor is nothing if not charismatic. I think his genre may be offputting to some, or that he isn’t exactly genre specific.

  158. It doesn’t look like a bar when he just popped in, because they wouldn’t serve drinks in plastic cups.

    It has been a few years since I was last on Bourbon Street, but plastic cups were pretty much everywhere. It is/was perfectly legal to carry your drink out into the street and from bar to bar. Since you are most likely going to walk off with your drink, most bars didn’t want you carrying off the glassware.

  159. I liked this comment from one of the gossipcandy posters:

    http://gossipcandy.com/2009/09/im-just-gonna-quote-bleh-until-candy-gets-off-work-oic/#comments

    Also, I’m appreciating that HP’s [Hot Pocket’s – Kris’s] hair’s getting all HH-esque, while HH [Adam] just looks increasingly like Drake (god forbid he puts a tank top on next), and Drake is wearing malbuttoned plaid (or at least plaid’s cousin) in the picture of him from this same bar, a la HP.

    Circle of life indeed.

  160. Well, I bought Adam’s new album, TBD (The Biggest Disc), and the Dave Eggers book. Now Adam will be the biggest Idol winner vis a vis sales ever.

    Adam, you’re welcome. ;)

  161. don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches
    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be ‘We Three Queens’ .

    LMAO! I’d buy that for everyone I know

    OMGz ‘“ that’s too funny!

    Did anyone get ‘Jingle Balls’  for the christmas album’ ¦LOL!

    We might get a whole album yet. Another one: “I saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus”.

  162. I don’t see why a talented black singer can’t win.

    Combination of the state of American Idol and the state of contemporary urban music.

    There hasn’t been a black male on Idol since Brandon Rodgers was eliminated the first week three seasons ago. I think the Idol audience is done with the Jennifer Hudson, Lakisha, Melinda gospel divas.

    Part of my calculation is the assumption that Idol only has five years, tops, left. I’m not sure it can go that long.

  163. ‘Jingle Balls’ needs to have an accompanying video of dancing men in Santa Hats & …., never mind, just Santa Hats!!

  164. ‘I saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus’ .

    LOL! And he can sing ‘Santa Baby’ as is

  165. Forget Time for Miracles and Strut or whatever. I need to hear Silent Night, Bitches NOW!

    I love the new pics. Very handsome.

  166. The wrist bands could indicate a private party where you are entitled to drinks (open bar) or just entitled to be there at all.

    I had to change computers while I run a very thorough scan. When I would open MJ’s a BUNCH of downloads were occuring and they were all audio ads, like 50 of the all at once, all talking on top of each other. Like the Exorcist and Poltergeist rolled into one…. anybody else having this problem?

  167. Well, I guess I’m the only one that HATES, HATES, HATES Adam’s new look. He looks greasy and sleazy.

    In an interview he was asked if he would grow facial hair and he said “no, and it would be the wrong color anyway”. Damn you, Drake. Look what you’ve done.

    Now they both look like porn stars. Yuk!

    Are you happy – the people who didn’t like the YHA hair? I’m cryin’ here.

  168. Those pics ‘“ he’s better looking and more exciting than most movie stars.

    This! ^ ^

    He looks positively dashing in those photos…

  169. Now they both look like porn stars.

    hmmm – is that why I think it’s hot?

  170. Here We Come a Struttin’

    or

    Jingle Bell Strut

    ETA:

    Well, I guess I’m the only one that HATES, HATES, HATES Adam’s new look. He looks greasy and sleazy.

    Don’t sweat it. He’ll be clean shaven with orange hair next week.

  171. I love Adam with facial hair, and his new hair style :-)

    I can imagine Adam singing “Adam Lambert Sta Claus is Coming to Town”. Those lips doing the pouting (sigh)

  172. Next thing you know Adam will have a toothpick hanging out of his mouth.

  173. And that facial hair isn’t gonna work with makeup.

    My day is absolutely ruined.

  174. LOL! And he can sing ‘Santa Baby’ as is

    Do you think when he performs it live he’ll change it from time to time to “woman”?

  175. I wouldn’t worry about Adam’s “new look”. ALL the promo photography, album cover shots, etc were taken clean shaven. They’ll want the same “look” for the publicity. This is probably just a vacation look and may even be gone already! He may have also hoped that it would make him a little less easy to recognize (obvious fail there!)

  176. “Silver and Glitter” (from “Silver and Gold” a somewhat obscure, but great, xmas song from the Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer TV show)

  177. No worries, sidewalkstory, I am sure the facial hair will be long gone by the time he needs to make promotional appearances.

    It probably just the casual look while not doing photo shoots, tv appearances.

    At least I hope it is temporary. As yummy as it looks now, it will get old quickly….

  178. And that facial hair isn’t gonna work with makeup.

    It works for Johnny Depp, it will work for Adam.

    Besides, with all of the thick hair he has, I doubt it is much more than a couple of days growth, a week at best. I love the facial hair, but I think RCA and 19 will want him to look as much like his AI self as possible at least for his initial debut to the public.

  179. Well, I guess I’m the only one that HATES, HATES, HATES Adam’s new look. He looks greasy and sleazy.

    Nope, me, too. Where is Emo!Adam. *sob*

    Please don’t use that picture, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com and THE PICTURE FOR ADAM’S TBD ALBUM.

    Thanks.

  180. Thx for the condolences pjd. Somehow I think that instead of Adam influencing Drake’s style, the opposite occurred.

    And Drake, you finally put on a shirt and it sucks. Did you buy it off the kids rack at the discount store?

  181. Next thing you know Adam will have a toothpick hanging out of his mouth.

    LOL

    I think he looks HOT!

    Thx for the condolences pjd. Somehow I think that instead of Adam influencing Drake’s style, the opposite occurred.

    I would agree with you if there weren’t pictures out there with Adam sporting this almost exactly look before he started dating Drake. Adam is forever changing his look, this one is more more permanent than the others so rest easy tomorrow he could have a look you love.

    And Drake, you finally put on a shirt and it sucks. Did you buy it off the kids rack at the discount store?

    I guess I just don’t give a crap what Drake dresses like cuz I barely noticed his shirt *shrug*

  182. I don’t care about Adam’s spiritual background. I just want him to do a Christmas album so we can hear his hit version: Silent Night, Bitches
    LOL, halfie. Another song on his Christmas album could be ‘We Three Queens’ .

    lol .. he could also do “Oh Little Town of Sodom and Gomorrah” .. and I guess he could give a whole new twist to “Oh Come All Ye Faithfull” especially with his hip slinking.

    …. As for the new pics … I’m not really digging them as he kind of reminds me a bit of Ricky Gervais in the UK version of The Office in them … eeeeeeeeeek

  183. Q3
    September 28, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Amazon just price matched Barnes and Nobel ‘” where Adam is now #31 and climbing. B&N Members price is still lower:

    Tbd
    Adam Lambert
    BUY THIS ITEM$13.99 List price $9.99 Online price
    (Save 28%) $8.99 Member price Join Now

    http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Tbd/Adam-Lambert/e/886975480128

    Judging from the lack of album promo activities over the weekend (prices weren’t discounted till today), is it too far out to assume that the marketing team wasn’t exactly planning to do anything till this week. But somehow Amazon decided to list the album over weekend, and invested Adam fans like us just happened to be stalking for releases with #adamstorm trending. And boom, accidental top #2.

  184. And just like that Adam has left the movers and shakers list ;).

    ETA; not quite – dropped to no 2, apparently 24 to 3 is equivalent of a 700% increase

  185. Adam is forever changing his look, this one is no more permanent than the others so rest easy tomorrow he could have a look you love.

    Yeah, it’s no easy task being an Adam Lambert impersonator …

  186. How about this new X-mas standard:

    All I Want for Chirstmas Is to Be on Top

    and Do You Hear What I Hear can stay as is (ha).

  187. It just occurred to me since Amazon lowered their price… when I ordered two albums at the orig. price the total was over $25 so I got free shipping. Since they discounted, the total is less than $25. Do you think they are going to charge me for shipping now?

  188. It just occurred to me since Amazon lowered their price’ ¦ when I ordered two albums at the orig. price the total was over $25 so I got free shipping. Since they discounted, the total is less than $25. Do you think they are going to charge me for shipping now?

    Probably

  189. Adam’s CD must be available for preorder at Best Buy too. (I haven’t looked) Just got an email from someone telling me about her day and she mentioned going by BB and ordering the CD as an early Christmas present for herself.

  190. Nope, me, too. Where is Emo!Adam. *sob*

    Please don’t use that picture, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com and THE PICTURE FOR ADAM’S TBD ALBUM.

    Sue, I’m not even joking when I say my day has been ruined by seeing those pictures.

    Didn’t Miles Sliggins give him the talk about selecting an image? I seem to remember reading about it.

  191. I gave up and bought the bloody thing for $9.99 plus shipping (but no tax). At least I will have it in my hand, and can listen to it from iTunes beforehand. Such is my love for the Lambert. (Or I can give the album to my sister for Chanukah if she really wants it, after I download the extra song you get from amazon.com.)

    LEAKAGE TO BEGIN IN 5,4,3…

  192. Dunno why but I love my free shipping. I wonder if I can go back and buy something else?

  193. Do you think they are going to charge me for shipping now?

    I don’t think so. I use AmazonPrime, so I don’t have experience with this, but when you “checked out” you agreed to an amount to be charged to your credit card. You also should have received an email with that same info. I don’t think they can legally charge you more than you agreed to.

  194. BestAI
    September 28, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Dunno why but I love my free shipping. I wonder if I can go back and buy something else?

    If your order still indicates free shipping they might not necessarily charge you for it just because they dropped the price

  195. Dunno why but I love my free shipping. I wonder if I can go back and buy something else?

    You should be able to. Since the rest of your order won’t ship for months anyway, you’re probably still able to add stuff to it.

  196. Nope, me, too. Where is Emo!Adam. *sob*

    Please don’t use that picture, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com and THE PICTURE FOR ADAM’S TBD ALBUM.

    Sue, I’m not even joking when I say my day has been ruined by seeing those pictures.

    Me, too, sidewalkstory :( But I do not think that 19/RCA will use those pics. I think they were just for fun. I do not think they will use the Michelin man, either, however. ;) I am guessing they go with Spikey Elvis!Adam, since that’s what he looked like during the Tour (for the most part). You know what would be nice right now, tho? ANY PICTURE TO ACCOMPANY HIS TBD Album.

    Did the David’s get this much attention?!

  197. Dunno why but I love my free shipping. I wonder if I can go back and buy something else?

    Buy something else and complete the order. Once you’re done check you’re order history page, and then combine the Adam LP order with your new order.

  198. Did the David’s get this much attention?!

    The Davids, Blake Lewis and Chris Richardson, Taylor, Katharine, Daughtry, Elliott, Bo, Constantine …

    Yep.

  199. Very minor change – but Amazon has changed “TBD” to “New Release 2009”

  200. New article from E! Online:

    Adam Lambert Swears He’s No Idol Puppet

    I believe him..

    Best quote from that article:

    While [DeGeneres] doesn’t have the music industry chops of Paula Abdul…

  201. Thank you, Sunn & imyourmom for that article.

    the best news out of that article, for me(for you, for me) is that 2012 may be Academy Award eligible!!!!!

    Yeah-maybe my dream of Adam singing at the Oscars WILL come true, after all!!! (And walking MIGHTLY fine on the red carpet,as well)

  202. Best quote from that article:

    While [DeGeneres] doesn’t have the music industry chops of Paula Abdul’ ¦

    They mean Lamb chops, it’s a typo. “Sigh”, good editors are a dying breed.

  203. New article from E! Online:

    Adam Lambert Swears He’s No Idol Puppet

    I believe him..

    Those quotes sound really familiar… I don’t think they are fresh quotes.

  204. Reminder:

    Could we not get too far off topic here? Adam Lambert and his upcoming record is the topic, not the possible ethnic makeup of the upcoming seasons of Idol….

  205. Those quotes sound really familiar’ ¦ I don’t think they are fresh quotes.

    Certainly agree with that, but Adam is remarkably good at staying on message more than most who churn out from Idol-land. Dude could be a politician.

    I would not be shocked to find out that they are freshly given quotes that simply reiterate what he’s told other interviewers.

  206. OMG LOL! There’s already a poll on twitter of “How do you feel about Adam with facial hair”.

    LOL. People have too much time on their hands. (Kettle-Pot, I know)

  207. Sorry about the Christmas song titles. Adam stuff gets repetitive, otherwise.

  208. Fascinating – Adam, like most guys taking a coupla days off, grows a few hairs, and it’s, like, the Last Days. Waiting till he turns up as a strawberry blond.

  209. Nearly 2,000 people have raised more than $229,000 and counting. The money has gone directly to public school classrooms nationwide.

    There were only 2 000 people that contributed to the $229 ,000 donation?
    I thought it would be more like 20 000 contributing 10 dollars.

    Sorry Mj for the OT, we quickly lose the purpose of the discussion around here and there is not really a thread to talk about season 9.

  210. Wow, how twitter is flailing & anxious about the facial hair- just search for either just adam lambert or @adamlambert to see

    That discussion is overtaking the pre-order discussion on twitter

    Peeps must be dying for Adam news

  211. Sorry Mj for the OT, we quickly lose the purpose of the discussion around here and there is not really a thread to talk about season 9.

    You are welcome to take the discussion to the Headlines thread…

  212. the best news out of that article, for me(for you, for me) is that 2012 may be Academy Award eligible!!!!!

    Squee!!! Of course, I’d like to hear it first…like, you know, THIS YEAR.

    ETA: If Adam gets nominated for an Oscar, he can STRUT down the red carpet. ;)

    Do you guys think that amazon.com changed Adam’s new record release (I still wanted it be called TBD–oh, well) to $9.99 b/c of the competition? Or b/c they heard from RCA? I don’t know how that works.

  213. mj
    September 28, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    New article from E! Online:

    Adam Lambert Swears He’s No Idol Puppet

    I believe him..

    Those quotes sound really familiar’ ¦ I don’t think they are fresh quotes.

    That’s what I was thinking, too. Sounded like blurbs from Adam from previous interviews recycled into a new article. Yikes, we really do need something new, and so does the media, before they start talking about the pink elephant again!

    I was comparing musical preferences with a friend who lives in the Upper Peninsula in Michigan, and when I asked if she knew him, emailed “Who is Adam Lambert?” AAACKK!
    Now, shall I pre-order his album for her, or bombard her with youtube vids?

  214. Sunn
    September 28, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    New article from E! Online:

    Adam Lambert Swears He’s No Idol Puppet

    I believe him..

    I’ve always believed him when he said this. I still do.

    I think the “Adam Storm” is starting…

  215. Wow, how twitter is flailing & anxious about the facial hair- just search for either just adam lambert or @adamlambert to see

    Oh I can attest to having contributed to that – just tweeted some friends when one mentioned that Disney was looking to replace Johnny Depp for the next Pirates – and I said, hmm, Adam must have gotten the memo and is trying out his best Jack Sparrow look :-)

  216. Suebrody, I don’t think Adam can get nominated unless he wrote the song, which I’m sure he didn’t. He can perform it at the Oscars, which will be a huge event.

  217. Adamaloha

    I think the ‘Adam Storm’  is starting’ ¦

    I see nothing but sunshine and clear skies where I’m standing “SIGH”!

    Maybe tomorrow we can get some rain? I’ll do a rain dance if I have to.

  218. Thanks, BestAI.

    So…why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and Kris’s are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

  219. I see nothing but sunshine and clear skies where I’m standing ‘SIGH’ !

    Maybe tomorrow we can get some rain? I’ll do a rain dance if I have to.

    Alas – today seems pretty quiet. Maybe Yom Kippur and all.

    Still haven’t gotten that 8-10 seconds TFM leak, if indeed the RI station really played it (still maintaining that if it hit the radio waves, we would have gotten SOMETHING online by now. Peeps could find Adam hiding under a rock, for gods sake – surely they could post something that made it’s way on to the radio.)

  220. Thanks, BestAI.

    So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and Kris’s are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    IIRC – someone more knowledgable than me in the following of AI albums posted something about the strategy behind the price drops – anyone remember what it was?

  221. Nearly 2,000 people have raised more than $229,000 and counting. The money has gone directly to public school classrooms nationwide.

    Some people might be like me. I did donate a small amount to support public schools, but at the time, I didn’t know how to make it be in Adam’s name. I did choose to support one of the projects he listed, however. I’ll bet there were other people like me- people who were inspired by Adam to give money to the charity projects that were funded- who never mentioned Adam’s name.

    It is a great charity, and I plan to donate to it now at the beginning of each school year.

    To get back on topic, I pre-ordered from Amazon today from the link from this site.

  222. sunnMaybe tomorrow we can get some rain? I’ll do a rain dance if I have to.

    LOL at the image!

    ETA: I posted a pretty comprehensive article about Adam and DonorsChoose over in the Headlines thread…

  223. If we pre-order a bunch of Adam’s albums via MJ’s link, will she retire and leave us with no place to go?

  224. I see nothing but sunshine and clear skies where I’m standing ‘SIGH’ !

    Maybe tomorrow we can get some rain? I’ll do a rain dance if I have to.

    We are still having storms around here. Floods all over. No classes in schools today. Lightings hitting residential buildings. We have been like this for a week :-(

  225. LeeTravers
    September 28, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Fascinating ‘“ Adam, like most guys taking a coupla days off, grows a few hairs, and it’s, like, the Last Days. Waiting till he turns up as a strawberry blond.

    I’d seriously pay good money to see the reaction if Adam did turn up as a strawvberry blond! His friends all say that he loves to change up his look from day to day.

    I really doubt there was a leak of an Adam song. Like stated above peeps would have been all over it. But, seriously one of the songs needs to leak/drop tomorrow then I’ll sit back and really watch the listings for his album on Amazon, Barnes & Nobles and others.

  226. BestAI
    Suebrody, I don’t think Adam can get nominated unless he wrote the song, which I’m sure he didn’t. He can perform it at the Oscars, which will be a huge event

    The song can get nominated and Adam can perform it at the AA.

  227. Love that picture, suebrody! I actually love the other one too- pretty soft brown hair suits him very well IMO. I’d have to vote no on strawberry blond, were he to ask me for my input- lol!

    But for the album cover I want to see something dark and glamorous and exciting- a “dark prince” look. But at this point I’d settle for an album called TBD with a picture of Kris on the cover if we could only get a leak!!

  228. terraj: Judging from the lack of album promo activities over the weekend (prices weren’t discounted till today), is it too far out to assume that the marketing team wasn’t exactly planning to do anything till this week. But somehow Amazon decided to list the album over weekend, and invested Adam fans like us just happened to be stalking for releases with #adamstorm trending. And boom, accidental top #2.

    Barnes and Nobel launched at $11.99/10.99 Members, and very soon after (but yesterday) dropped to (.99/$8.99.

    On pre-sales Amazon has a price match guarentee. From their site:

    Pre-Order Price Guarantee

    Amazon.com’s price for not-yet-released items sometimes changes between the time the item is listed for sale and the time it is released and shipped. Whenever you pre-order a book, CD, video, DVD, video game, or software item, the price we charge when we ship it to you will be the lowest price offered by Amazon.com between the time you place your order and the release date. The order summary in Your Account will reflect the lowest price within 24 hours of the price change.

    Amazon moves their pricing to match their major competitors. The quick price move means that someone at Amazon is tracking this product.

  229. There hasn’t been a black male on Idol since Brandon Rodgers was eliminated the first week three seasons ago.

    ahem… chikezie eze, season 7… work with me here hwc… ;-)

  230. Maybe instead of an Adam Storm, they decided to wait a bit and make it an Adam Tsunami !

  231. Good morning everyone
    It is Tuesday morning here in Japan.
    Adam storm? Adam tsunami?

  232. 4evrmomof4
    September 28, 2009 at 4:41 pm
    Maybe instead of an Adam Storm, they decided to wait a bit and make it an Adam Tsunami !

    MUCH better than a mere storm…. 8)

    ETA… sorry for shouting.

  233. Twitter peeps saying it now available for pre-order in Israel today

  234. yes, japadamania, & they said peeps are ordering it in droves–wish I knew how to access Amazon Israel to see, cause they have loved Adam there

  235. 4evrmomof4
    September 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Twitter peeps saying it now available for pre-order in Israel today

    Great, I believe he has a good sized following in Israel.

    Good morning japadamania

  236. That facial hair is so wrong. It could work on it’s own but you can’t wear make-up with a goatee unless you want to look like the bearded lady at the circus. Just no.

  237. What a superstar Adam is!
    I cannot imagine how many people love him all over the world.
    And he makes us happy everyday.

  238. 4evrmomof4
    September 28, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    yes, japadamania, & they said peeps are ordering it in droves’“wish I knew how to access Amazon Israel to see, cause they have loved Adam there

    Amazon international sites are: United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan, Canada and China. So where would the Israelis order from?

    4evermomof4 – can you cut and paste some of those tweets here?

  239. Iconic!Adam with the frequent flier miles, taking the world by storn.

    Pauler was right…

    Can Israelis order from amazon.uk? There isn’t an amazon/barnes and noble/best buy in Israel?

  240. Don’t where they would pre-order in Israel. Twitter accounts are they is available for pre-order in Israel & that they are buying

    Will watch twitter to see if more info shows up

  241. Amazon international sites are: United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan, Canada and China. So where would the Israelis order from?

    Israel probably has their own sales site. I just checked (very briefly) on Google but didn’t find anything that could lead me to Israeli online music stores.

    ETA:

    Can Israelis order from amazon.uk?

    Sure, both shipping and customs will probably be expensive since Israel isn’t exactly a part of the European trade zone. I would think they’d probably go for Amazon in US though. But this Israeli pre-order thing has to be an actual Israeli store, otherwise they would have been able to pre-order yesterday or sooner like the rest of us.

  242. So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and Kris’s are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    I think it has something to do with Amazon’s own pricing. I noticed that when lots items get on top sellers list, they often drop the price a lot.

  243. AllenTX
    September 28, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and Kris’s are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    I think it has something to do with Amazon’s own pricing. I noticed that when lots items get on top sellers list, they often drop the price a lot.

    They are dropping the price to match the competitions’ pricing. Barnes & Noble have it priced online for $9.99 today so Amazon drops its price to match it.

  244. So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and [the kid’s] are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    Organic is always more expensive.

  245. Adama is #31 in Japanese amasone.
    #30 is one of the most popular Japanese male singer nowadays.
    So I think, #31 is not bad in Japan

  246. hwc
    September 28, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and [the kid’s] are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    Organic is always more expensive.

    There we go. Dunkin’ Donuts iced coffee ALL over my monitor. *runs off to get paper towel*

    hwc – you should seriously look into standup. You are soooo quick on your feet!

  247. hwc
    September 28, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and [the kid’s] are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    Organic is always more expensive.

    IA.

    btw, hwc do you have a program that can automaticly change Kris’ name into ‘the kid’ or ‘the kid who won’ no matter where his name is in a article? Just curious…

  248. Also, if you want to go old school’ ¦I think Adam has sort of a Clark Gable thing going on with the facial hair!

    Frankly my dear(s) I don’t give a damn! (Rhett to Scarlett in GWTW). He’s still hot, facial hair or not. 8)

  249. hwc ‘“ you should seriously look into standup. You are soooo quick on your feet!

    Actually he should hook up with antrogeek and halfie and they would be a great tag team of standup comdians.

    But to get back on subject, hwc is correct, there will be nothing organic about Adam’s album. (snicker, snert…)

  250. when I see more tweets about Israel I will post them.

    Can you believe some people are trying to trend : #adamlookslikeanItalianpornstar

    hilarious

  251. when I see more tweets about Israel I will post them.

    Thanks that would be good as we don’t yet have a way to track pre-orders in Israel.

  252. Picked up this, not the first tweet about this either:

    glambertloverrr Heard that @adamlambert’s single is being picked today. People are trending #strut at 6:00 PM Eastern TONIGHT :) about 5 hours ago from web

  253. Must be Adam’s super secret disquise. I don’t mind it at all. I like the clean shaven guyliner look better, but I wouldn’t kick him out of bed for facial hair either.

  254. According to Aimee Mayo the songwriter, who is waiting to find out if her song is the first single it is. This is from her twitter:

    Drinking beer- having fun waiting on BC 2 hit stage. They R picking Adam’s single on Monday I hear- That’s my freaking BIRTHDAY! #AdamStorm10:15 PM Sep 26th from Twitterena

  255. I’ve been thinking about what TFM would sound like. I really do think it will sound wonderful. Movie soundtracks usually have elaborate instrumentation — a full orchestra/symphony. With Adam’s beautiful, strong vocals, it would lend itself to a big orchestra mix. I’m wondering why that writer said it could be eligible for an Oscar nom. Could there be talk already by people who have heard it?

  256. BestAI
    September 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm
    I’ve been thinking about what TFM would sound like. I really do think it will sound wonderful. Movie soundtracks usually have elaborate instrumentation ‘” a full orchestra/symphony. With Adam’s beautiful, strong vocals, it would lend itself to a big orchestra mix. I’m wondering why that writer said it could be eligible for an Oscar nom. Could there be talk already by people who have heard it?

    Interestingly enough, we still haven’t heard who wrote it. If it’s someone like Diane Warren….oscar nom all sown up. I’m dying to know more about this song!

    ETA: I totally spazzed out on that. Thanks guys – for some reason I had no recall whatsoever on the writers until you quickly corrected me. Much appreciated! I do remember that now, that it was a poignant story.

  257. Mary102
    September 28, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    Thanks, BestAI.

    So’ ¦why is Adam’s album price dropping, and Castro’s and Kris’s are more expensive? Is this part of the #adamstorm?

    pjd

    September 28, 2009 at 1:48 pm
    In general, Amazon tends to have discounted prices on CD’s. I wonder if they have set deals with the labels that they get quantity discounts and those go into effect when they ‘sell’  the number needed to reach that discount.

  258. Isn’t Oscar eligibility just determined by the objective criteria (written for the movie, plays during the movie or as first song during end credits etc)? Whether the song is of sufficient quality to be nominated is the second step – I’d think.

  259. Adama is #31 in Japanese amasone.
    #30 is one of the most popular Japanese male singer nowadays.
    So I think, #31 is not bad in Japan

    Love to see someone from Japan posting here!

    I used to live in Japan, and I’ve always thought Adam would be super popular there. Emo haired Adam looks like a Japanese anime character come to life!

    Every day, there are millions of people riding the trains in Japan and reading comic books with characters who look like emo Adam (not so much Italian porn star Adam LOL), so they are very familiar with that aesthetic.

    Because Japanese society is so rigidly structured, I think that the Japanese particularly enjoy entertainers who are true to themselves and don’t fit into the conventional mold. Plus, Adam has such a sentimental and romantic heart, which would be very appealing to the Japanese national character.

    I don’t know if he is quite popular enough there yet, but I expect that over time Adam will be able to amass a small fortune (or maybe a gigantic one) from appearances and advertising campaigns in Japan.

    They would love the costumes, glitter, and self-expression he brings to the scene.

  260. Interestingly enough, we still haven’t heard who wrote it. If it’s someone like Diane Warren’ ¦.oscar nom all sown up. I’m dying to know more about this song!

    I thought we did know who wrote it? Isn’t it Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider. If it is, they are pretty hard rock. There are more songs listed besides the one I am linking.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acG62UJyJdA&feature=related

  261. WHAT UP PEOPLEZ!!!!!! lol OMAOMA THIS IS AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!!!MAYBE HIS ALBUM WILL BE SLIIIIGHYLY SUCCESFUL-NIT GETTING MY HOPES UP BUT THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! I’M JUMPING UP AND DOWN RIGHT NOW!!!

    :0 this is awesome shit.

    just got back frm school.finished hw:D

    random idol reference in my life-my middle school is having abtalent show so the drama teacher us calling it (my school’ name ) got talent.yeah I know crap show.buuut were having teachers as judges and she diesnt like the AGT judges and was like okay instes were gonna have Randy Simon and paula.oh wait not Paula and ppl were shouting Ellen!!! lol haha take that Kara.

    I’m nit doing the talent show but that was weird.

    OMA #2!!!!!!!!!

    I’M READY 4 AN ADAM STORM!!!

    CAN SOMEONE PLZ PLZ Z SUMMARIZE THE THREAD(I’ll flive you forever)!!!

    AND can some1 plz tell me hiw to post a link.

    THNX:D

    OMAOAMOMA #2!!!

  262. It was Alain Johanes and his wife Natasha ‘“

    FYI, the song was written them during Natasha’s battle with cancer. Sadly, she didn’t win the battle and died in July, 2008.

  263. Interestingly enough, we still haven’t heard who wrote it. If it’s someone like Diane Warren’ ¦.oscar nom all sown up. I’m dying to know more about this song!

    We had a discussion on this and the tweet:

    RT @AlainJohannes Really excited about Adam Lambert’s rendition of “Time For Miracles” a song Natasha and I wrote. @alreference | September 23, 2009 09:23 AM

    It was written by Alain Johannes (Alain Johannes Moschulski) guitarist for the former band Eleven) along with his partner Natasha Shneider. She died of cancer last summer.

  264. Adam fans (not me, of course, ha ha) spend waaay too much time on Twitter. ;)

    I do not think we will hear Adam’s TFM until Thursday night’s 2012 roadblock. And even if Aimee is right and they pick the three songs today, I don’t think they will be released. Interestingly, we already know two others of Kris’s, per his interview w/ Slezak. I believe that Adam’s first single from the still-unnamed-album-that-is-#3-on-amazon-US will be released next Tuesday, but if that is too close to TFM, then on the 12th. I do not think it matters if it is released on the 12th, tho rather than on the 19th, but maybe I am wrong. I am sure having TFM will help pre-sales of the album, but an actual single will be better, of course.

    SO EXCITED!

    ETA: Hi, luv! There are new pictures of Adam circulating on Twitter. We have also discussed why the price has dropped, why he has dropped from #2 to #3 on the amazon chart, and…other stuff.

  265. KLI

    Thank you!
    Yes, I agree with you.
    I think he will be big in Japan.
    I hope he will come to Japan and appear his gorgeous looking.

  266. I think the price dropped on Adam’s cd is because it’s coming out on Black Friday. Daughtry’s came out then and it was also at a discounted price. That’s the day when all the bargain are out there. If it hadn’t come out on that day I think the price would be higher.

  267. Hrrrm. #TFM being hard rock? I am listening to Collective Soul’s The World I Know (I love that song–and remember that Cook sang it last year, and Simon unfairly said he shouldn’t have?), and I could imagine something like that. Which means it WILL NOT sound remotely like that.

  268. Isn’t Oscar eligibility just determined by the objective criteria (written for the movie, plays during the movie or as first song during end credits etc)? Whether the song is of sufficient quality to be nominated is the second step ‘“ I’d think.

    There are lots of songs that make it in movies and probably eligible for nom. I’m just wondering why the writer even brought it up. Wishful thinking on my part.

  269. Adam back up to #2 on best sellers, #13 on movers and shakers.

    Yay, let’s hope he disappears from the movers and shakers never to be seen there again for this album anyway (my complicated way of saying let’s hope he stays in the top 2 or 3 until the album is released and some time thereafter).

    Actually, I’m quite impressed that he hasn’t dropped yet but I’m fully aware of the significant possibility that he will.

  270. Wasn’t there a twitter from yesterday that there would be an announcement of great interest at 6:30PM today?

  271. Adam back up to #2 on Amazon best sellers, #13 on movers and shakers.

    Oh goodie. He must have sold another ten albums. (Being snarky, of course, because of the numbers discussion).

  272. Adam back up to #2 on Amazon best sellers, #13 on movers and shakers.

    Apparently, the change from TBD to “New Release 2009” triggered some sales. LOL. Good work 19/RCA.

  273. hwc
    September 28, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    The Idols have big budgets, obscene money spent on singles, and videos, and radio station promo ($500,000 and up per song), so the only way they can even break even is to sell a million copies. …
    This top 40 game is high stakes poker and everyone (labels, producers, songwriters, etc.) are gambling with the artists share of royalties.

    hwc, have I got this right – you’re saying that in reality the system operates so it’s only after the album reaches single-platinum levels of sales (1,000,000 units) that the artist starts receiving any actual personal income from album sales? So the costs of production/promotion eat up the takings from the first 1,000,000 units?

    Do those figures get better for the artist once they’re established – because they no longer have to play the Top 40 game? Or because they’ve got more bargaining power and can get a better contract deal – like sharing in a percentage of each and every unit sold?

    [mood: chuckling over organic always being more expensive]

  274. suebrody
    September 28, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Hrrrm. #TFM being hard rock? I am listening to Collective Soul’s The World I Know (I love that song’“and remember that Cook sang it last year, and Simon unfairly said he shouldn’t have?), and I could imagine something like that. Which means it WILL NOT sound remotely like that.

    During Adam’s Twitter Party he described TFM as being “classic rock ballad styled track that will be very catchy.”

    Personally I love hard rock ballads.

  275. #2AGAIN!!!!!!

    Barbara Streisand ur going down.lol

    so..we now get an Adam tard thred every day? cool

    nooo I don’t think tfm is hard rock and no way in hell will it get an Oscar.just keeping it real folks.

    OKAAAYY AT LEAST TELL ME WHAT OAGE OF THIS THREAD THE ADAM TWITTER PICTURES ARE ON??!! I’M DYING TO SEE IT….

  276. That facial hair is so wrong. It could work on it’s own but you can’t wear make-up with a goatee unless you want to look like the bearded lady at the circus. Just no.

    Yep and yep.

    Facial hair is just plain icky. Adam has too gorgeous a face to mess it up this way. Please shave Adam.

  277. OKAAAYY AT LEAST TELL ME WHAT OAGE OF THIS THREAD THE ADAM TWITTER PICTURES ARE ON??!! I’M DYING TO SEE IT

    Luvie, go to the Headlines thread, it will be easier to find.

  278. Wasn’t there a twitter from yesterday that there would be an announcement of great interest at 6:30PM today?

    um,wut?

  279. I didn’t see this link posted:
    http://top40.about.com/b/2009/09/28/adam-lamberts-upcoming-album-soars-in-pre-orders.htm

    One line from it:
    “Without a doubt any leaks or presentation of singles from Adam Lambert will be greeted with a frenzy from his fans. ”

    Who, us? Frenzy? I think that he’s underestimating us. :-)

    BTW, I see that Adam is back to # 2. Now he’s on top of Harry Connick Jr., and we know that Adam prefers to be on top.

    ETA:
    I know that #2 Amazon preorder might be meaningless in the long run, but, as has been said, it’s good PR for now, and it sure beats NOT having good preorders….

    Eeek, in my frustration at no leak today, I just went to ITunes and bought Adam’s version of NoBo. Help!!

  280. Changing the title probably did help, along with the fact that Connick’s spike was due to his being on some talk shows today to promote his album. Out of sight, out of mind. Except for Adam, LOL. ;)

    I can’t help being excited about it, even though it’s just a drop in the bucket. But he’s making headlines again without doing a thing!

  281. During Adam’s Twitter Party he described TFM as being ‘classic rock ballad styled track that will be very catchy.’ 

    Personally I love hard rock ballads

    Don’t forget EARTHY!!! That’s almost like organic, right??

  282. Apparently, the change from TBD to ‘New Release 2009’ ³ triggered some sales. LOL. Good work 19/RCA.

    Actually……I think they changed it because there were so many complaints about how stupid it was to name Adam’s first big album TBD….

    8)

  283. Adam is beating out: Madonna, The Beatles, Susan Boyle and Michael Jackson. Not too shabby.

    there is something wrong with that sentence….who the F is buying Susan Boyle’s music?

  284. TBD stood for THE BIGGEST DISC (evah). I guess that didn’t work out too well. ;)

    What would be considered a ‘classic rock ballad styled track”?

  285. So still nothing all day today again? No announcements, no dates to look forward to (except 2012 roadblock on Thurs). No song leakage.

  286. clearone, I was thinking about you when I went into my tirade about the facial hair today. I couldn’t stop. Just about everyone was lovin’ it and I had the feeling you would be one of the few people agreeing with me that it was just awful.

  287. Whether the song is of sufficient quality to be nominated is the second step ‘“ I’d think.

    Quality doesn’t enter into it–

    “I’m Easy” from the movie Nashville…

    “A Whole New World”…. gag

    And let’s not forget that song about a pimp. I know it’s hard out there for a pimp… but the song was crap.

    ETA– all my opinion, of course. 8)

  288. there is something wrong with that sentence’ ¦.who the F is buying Susan Boyle’s music?

    She got about a trillion billion youtube hits. So many people emailed me about that. Many people actually like her.

  289. What would be considered a ‘classic rock ballad styled track’ ?

    Yes, I would like to know which of the old 70’s classic rock songs were considered to be “classic rock ballads.” However, Adam did say somewhere in some interview that it starts out that way but it arcs. Whatever that means.

    Would Stairway to Heaven be considered a rock ballad?

  290. “So still nothing all day today again? No announcements, no dates to look forward to (except 2012 roadblock on Thurs). No song leakage.”

    Maybe today’s Adam news was the DonorsChoose press release? A slow build up to bigger things… :)

  291. Anybody who says facial hair does not work on Adam Lambert has not seen the I Just Love You video on youtube. And here’s hoping he grows his hair back to those days too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi8_Xnq7c1s

    I wonder if that’s what color his hair on his head might be, kinda auburn? The hair on his arms look really light tho.

  292. Anybody who says facial hair does not work on Adam Lambert has not seen the I Just Love You video on youtube.

    Studio57, I don’t see any pornstache there; not the same thing. That was just more subtle.

  293. It ARCS? Where does it arc to?

    Boy, do I want to hear this. I wonder if it sounds like Freebird? Oh maybe something like DREAAAAMMM ONNNNNN.

  294. SADZ.I couldn’t find the pictureD: dying inside

    and what about 6:30???!!! WHAT TWEET??!!

    be back soon….

  295. Anybody who says facial hair does not work on Adam Lambert has not seen the I Just Love You video on youtube. And here’s hoping he grows his hair back to those days too:

    I’ve seen it and still don’t like the tufts of scruff on his beautiful face. The hair is wonderful but his face should not be marred by anything!

    clearone, I was thinking about you when I went into my tirade about the facial hair today. I couldn’t stop. Just about everyone was lovin’ it and I had the feeling you would be one of the few people agreeing with me that it was just awful.

    …and you were correct! I saw the pics and cringed. Facial hair works on some men but Adam has incredibly, classic good looks which are enhanced when he is clean-shaven. Why mess with perfection?

  296. Pornstache no. Soul Patch yes. I do wonder how the stache looks with emo hair, though.

    And I cannot even believe I am having this conversation. PLEASE LEAK THE DAMN SONG!

  297. I think it’s an amazing show of restraint (or is it fear that they won’t get another tidbit from RCA) that those in the media that have heart Strut and/or TFM have not leaked even 10 seconds of a song yet.

  298. The weather has been too damm nice. It’s annoying. I want some turbulence!!!

  299. I saw the pics and cringed.

    They literally ruined my day. Greasy and sleazy looking. As I said this afternoon, the next thing you know there will be a toothpick hanging out of his mouth. Thanks, Drake.

  300. well um at least drake looks GOOD…

    idk I think drake’s pretty awesome….I guess…

  301. @adamaloha – yeah I knew quality was the wrong word to use :lol:. What I meant was that eligibility is based on objective criteria. Actual nominations are based on whatever the nominating board feels like it should be based on – but primarily subjective qualities I’d think.

  302. wand3rful
    September 28, 2009 at 6:07 pm
    Adam is beating out: Madonna, The Beatles, Susan Boyle and Michael Jackson. Not too shabby.

    there is something wrong with that sentence’ ¦.who the F is buying Susan Boyle’s music?

    The same people that will buy any second place reality tv stars music they like.Its just susan blew up on utube world wide and has a great happy/sad story.Its like the perfect STORM no name but you don’t forget it happened for years.Unlike AI storms they come and go every year.

  303. I think the Adam facial hair pictures are hot. Totally sleazy and sexy and unf…

  304. ZOMG I just remembered these guys,on the bus today were talking ALL about 2012.ZOMG!!!!!

    ..and I’m not sure if they even knowwho the hell the glittery alien is

  305. We should bow down before the mustache – it’s the only substantial thing we have to talk about.

  306. Hey peeps, do you realize that Adam Lambert’s theme song for 2012 “Time for Miracles” (hey, atleast they didn’t call it, “Overcoming Hurricanes”), could actually be ACADEMY AWARD ELIGIBLE?

    From what I have seen of the movie, if the acting doesn’t suck, it could be HUGE.

  307. Actually, I like the facial hair. It looks good on him.

    But I don’t care about that right now because I woke up at 5:00 am in the friggin morning just to hear the song or a snippet or anything. Looks like there’s nothing yet.

    RELEASE THE FRIGGIN SONG ALREAADYYYY. I’M DYING HERE.

  308. I like the facial hair. I like him clean shaven. I like him painted blue.

    I like the fact that he’s not so hung up on how everyone perceives him that he feels confortable enough go out with facial hair with all the scrutiny he gets. And he was “off the clock” hanging out with his BF. More power to him if he wants to rock the stash and goatee.

    It’s all good. He’s out and about and having a good time, and that’s a beautiful thing.

    Where’s the leak?!?!?!

  309. Did the David’s get this much attention?!

    The Davids, Blake Lewis and Chris Richardson, Taylor, Katharine, Daughtry, Elliott, Bo, Constantine ‘ ¦

    Yep.

    I keep seeing this, but no one seems to be able to answer – did anyone else receive this type of praise from the press? And did anyone else have so many writers interested in working for them?

  310. I’m sorry, MJ, I know this is off topic but since I am very computer ‘challenged’ could someone tell me when I want to put a link in my post, do I hit the click ‘link’ before or after I type the link I’m trying to send? Thanks!

  311. Does Drake like facial hair, doesn’t he?
    That weekend seems for just for them.
    So Adam would like to do something special for his lover?
    My boyfriend did that, grow facial hair for me on weekend.
    I am just saying…..

  312. I like the facial hair. I like him clean shaven. I like him painted blue.

    I like him with green eggs and ham… :)

    And did someone mention earlier, that there was some rumor that there would be news today at 6:30pm? Just sayin that sunset in L.A. is at 6:40pm, so that would signify the official end of Yom Kippur, right? A good time for a leak… Oh lord I need a life…

  313. I keep seeing this, but no one seems to be able to answer ‘“ did anyone else receive this type of praise from the press? And did anyone else have so many writers interested in working for them?

    That would be a big hell no.

  314. rowenaaine

    I like the facial hair. I like him clean shaven. I like him painted blue.

    Exactly right! :-)

  315. We should bow down before the mustache ‘“ it’s the only substantial thing we have to talk about.

    This is true except it ruined my day. I was very upset before. He doesn’t look like he’s from LA anymore, he looks like he’s ready to move to the backwoods.

  316. Bowie1, you should click on the link button and a new box pops up for you to either type in your link or paste and copy. At least that is how it works for me.

    However, if you know the link, just type it into your comment box or “paste” it in. I don’t think you have to actually use that link button.

  317. I love facial hair and I love that picture of Adam, Studio57! My all-time favorite. Wouldn’t mind him letting his hair grown again, too. I really like the picture of him with his natural color, long hair.

  318. Just because we are all so bored here… I am posting this entry from AO… from a girl who just discovered her brother has been holding out on her for years…

    Note what he said about Adam’s star power…

    MY BROTHER WORKED WITH ADAM!! JUST FOUND OUT!
    ok, everyone… knock me over with a feather right now! my brother worked in L.A. for many years as a set decorator (he hepled build the sets) on numerous t.v shows. the tonight show with jay leno. the price is right. days of our lives… and also he worked on the stage sets of numerous emmy awards and academy awards. well… i have never talked to him about my love for adam… until today. i mentioned in an e-mail how much i love adam. he responded, ” oh, i was doing props on the stage show of the ten commandments when adam was in the show”!! i was speachless! i said “what”???? he said, yeah, he was a really nice guy, but val kilmer was an (i won’t repeat it). he said that everyone thought that adam was a great singer (back then, he wasn’t widely known of course). he said that allison porter was so small but was a jokester, really cute and sweet. i am shaking as i write this because my OWN brother was there for every show and saw him every night!! he and his crew built the sets and tore them down. i just wanted to share with all of you my shock and utter amazement that my brother worked with our own adam and i didn’t even know it until now!! he did say that even back then, adam had major star quality and it was noticed by everyone!!

  319. redbarns
    September 28, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    He was on vacation. He didn’t shave. Is it really so shocking?

    Yeah but he did’nt provide us with a the appropriate forms requesting the change!!

    I think it looks Hot.. more Devilish :-) I like naughty Adam

  320. Bowie1

    You can just copy and paste the link into your post, unless you want to ‘overwrite’ on the link with your own wording, which then you click on ‘link’ and paste the link in the box, and then click OK to close it, and then write over it with your wording.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Seriously, are we gonna have many more pages talking about Adam’s face fuzz? It’s painful having to trawl through countless pages to find some album talk when some of us have to come back here hours later.

    [/rant]

  321. We should bow down before the mustache ‘“ it’s the only substantial thing we have to about.

    I like the facial hair. I like him clean shaven. I like him painted blue.

    I like him with green eggs and ham’ ¦

    lol.hell,YEAH!!!!!!

    ohhh so it’s 6:30 California time:0

    can some1 plzpost that tweet?

  322. I repeat, Adam went to No.3, because Connick is in promo right now. He was on Regis this am and other tv shows. But isn’t it great Adam went back to No. 2 without promo. He’ll never kick Babs of, she’s number 1 for 100 days now.

    I saw Connick on the Today show this morning so he is out doing promo.

  323. he did say that even back then, adam had major star quality and it was noticed by everyone!!

    It wasn’t his time to shine until now.

    And he really need to hurry up and give us some friggin music!

  324. So I gotta ask. Is Babs, after 100 days on the chart still selling more CD’s per day than Adam or is it a running total?

    Anyone want to take a guess at what the numbers are, I really have no clue.

  325. I like the facial hair. I like him clean shaven. I like him painted blue.

    Ugly clothes, designer clothes, clothed, unclothed ;)

    *looks at MJ*

    Tattle tale, lol.

  326. I think the Adam facial hair pictures are hot. Totally sleazy and sexy and unf’ ¦

    Ellie2- I’m with you. He looks pretty hot to me.

  327. ok sigh.. shuffling feet…kicking the dirt.. no adam music… i think I am actually going to go listen to megan sing! :-(

  328. i think I am actually going to go listen to megan sing!

    Or Danny, heaven forbid! :(

  329. I saw the pics and cringed.

    They literally ruined my day. Greasy and sleazy looking. As I said this afternoon, the next thing you know there will be a toothpick hanging out of his mouth. Thanks, Drake.

    I’ll agree with this as well since I find Drake sleazy period. Don’t let him drag you down Adam.

  330. I bet tommorow or whenever there’s a leak it’s eithergonna happen while I’m at school and I’ll have to go through like 5099 comments or ill have a ton if homework.I wish I
    knew when it was leaking so I can * try* to fake sick and *try* to get to my iPod……unlikely though…D:

  331. He looks freaking hot! The boy is beautiful no matter what. Michelin Man was the only time he looked unattractive to me and that was because of that chocolate marshmallow thing he was wearing……and the hair

  332. A tweet!

    adamlambertHeadin into studio w Linda Perry!!!

    Wonder if he’s bringing the facial hair.

  333. adamlambert Headin into studio w Linda Perry!!!

    Wonder if he’s bringing the facial hair.

    I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

  334. Drake looks like a cutie to me. Not my type, but certainly Adam’s.

    And just when I was ready to declare this thread dead—

    adamlambert

    1. Headin into studio w Linda Perry!!!3 minutes ago from Echofon

    Ahhh. How many times can you tease us, Adam?

  335. My thoughts after reading MJ’s post– I’m not caught up with any discussion yet, so this may seem hours behind :P

    Sooo…neither Adam or Kris has gotten much in the way of promotion yet. The pattern seems to be release stuff without any announcement and see how it does. Hopefully the promotional push comes in soon! At least before the single in Adam’s case–that’s somewhere I really don’t want Adam’s management to be following Kris’ example. And videos… I’m excited for those personally, but also I think videos do a LOT for the success for singles and subsequently albums. For me, from the perspective of someone who listens to a lot of pop music and watches pop culture, videos really mark the release of something as official.

    We know for sure that Adam’s internet fanbase is strong and larger than some of us (including me) may have thought. It may even rival Susan Boyle’s! This gives him more of a security net if his single doesn’t do well… well actually, it may not make that much of a difference, but psychologically it makes ME feel more confident, lol. I’m excited. Now I’m going to read the thread :)

  336. Drake looks like a cutie to me. Not my type, but certainly Adam’s.

    I feel the same way. He’s adorable, but to thin.

  337. I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    WHAT Linda Perry song did Adam sing on You tube???

  338. I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    What’s Going On

    I have a CD of the New Year’s perf’s given to me by someone that was there that night. Included on the CD are clips of banter that were not posted to YouTube.

  339. adamlambert Headin into studio w Linda Perry!!!

    ARE WE GONNA GET A LEAK OR WHAT?!

    *stomping*

    I keep seeing this, but no one seems to be able to answer ‘“ did anyone else receive this type of praise from the press? And did anyone else have so many writers interested in working for them?

    That would be a big hell no.

    That’s what I asked before, too. I was watching the David v David situation. Of course there were a lot of fan wars, but I just don’t remember this anticipation for a single or an album.

    Of course, there was no 2012…

    Must I listen to Megan? Well, fine, I’ll do it.

  340. I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    Great question.
    Saw this very interesting VH1 Behind the Music on Pink, and it featured LP, who was instrumental in Pink’s career, at least until their relationship imploded. Had no idea LP was the What’s Going On woman. It was fascinating to hear how she does her thang.
    The Pink story was also interesting.

  341. adamlambertHeadin into studio w Linda Perry!!!

    OMA CANNOT BREEEEEEAAAAAATTTHHEEE!!!!!!!!

    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    FLAILING SHAKING AND CRYING

    and in other news

    .

    I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    WUT?

  342. dsp
    WHAT Linda Perry song did Adam sing on You tube???

    He sang 4 Non Blonde’s ‘What’s Going On’, both at UC and during Hollywood Week.

  343. Me likes the facial hair and the guy liner. It’s very David Navarro circa Red Hot Chile Peppers.

    WHAT Linda Perry song did Adam sing on You tube???

    “What’s Goin’ On.”

  344. Catching up…so is it the consensus of the more experienced people here that Adam’s album doing this well without promotion is something special even in Idolverse? Or are we debating?

  345. WHAT Linda Perry song did Adam sing on You tube???

    I just linked it above.

  346. never mind on the WUT?

    um sherena I don’t think it rivals SuBo

    OMA dsp I’m so jellus of ur avatar.I want to use aDIFFERENT pic of that for my avatar.does anyone have a link to them or not what meet and greet their from?unless,of course you took the pictures…

  347. I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    Thanks guys…didn’t realize that was a Linda Perry song…reminds me why I Luv him or as Luvs would say Flove him….love the lisp he has in that video…” not my preference”

    Regarding the facial hair—-those club pics were definately from this weekend—I saw facebook pics of him performing at the private New Orleans Idol party—50yo birthday party at the Rossevelt Hotel—-

  348. sidewalkstory
    September 28, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    I wonder if she watched the yt of him singing her song?

    I have a CD of the New Year’s perf’s given to me by someone that was there that night. Included on the CD are clips of banter that were not posted to YouTube.

    Lucky you.. I must say he looked “very happy” to be there so I can only imagin the banter….lol

  349. um sherena I don’t think it rivals SuBo

    haha I can’t even tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. but hi luv

    SuBo had a single leaked, right? So I’m leaning towards his getting to #2 rivalling SuBo getting to #1, when you take into account that he didn’t have promotion.

    Now I’m thinking he may possibly debut first in his week, if the single does well. It’s all hinged on the single before and it still does…nothing’s changed really, except for that I feel optimistic :)

  350. Also, he looks weird with facial hair. Like someone pasted it on his skin. It doesn’t look right.

  351. Regarding the facial hair’”-those club pics were definately from this weekend’”I saw facebook pics of him performing at the private New Orleans Idol party’”50yo birthday party at the Rossevelt Hotel’”-

    I thought they might be. The lighting was too good to be just a bar. I wonder what an Idol party is – ?

  352. luvadamlambert
    September 28, 2009 at 7:37 pm
    adamlambertHeadin into studio w Linda Perry!!!

    OMA CANNOT BREEEEEEAAAAAATTTHHEEE!!!!!!!!

    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    FLAILING SHAKING AND CRYING

    and in other news

    I luv you, Luvie.

    This vid is a new one from Magicaladee… she’s quite talented.

    Adam Lambert– Paparazzi

    Sherena
    September 28, 2009 at 7:39 pm
    Catching up’ ¦so is it the consensus of the more experienced people here that Adam’s album doing this well without promotion is something special even in Idolverse? Or are we debating?

    Sherena… I think all the Internet buzz was part of the plan all along, and I also agree with some posters who believe Adam’s initial Amazon success caught his management by surprise.

    As for being special… I’m not experienced in the Idol-verse, but I am shocked that he’s right up there with Babs and the Beatles.

    Shocked– but not surprised, if that makes any sense at all.

  353. The pics on this site and AO look like they are in a bar to me—- the ones I saw are from a woman that attended the party and he is wearing a black long sleeve button shirt and black pants without a vest and show him posing with the “judges” and singing on stage….I don’t know how to take pics from facebook and i would feel wierd doing it and then it showing up in gossip girl

  354. Apparently some people think Adam has been no different than many of the past idols – attention, buzz, rabid fans, top producers, #1 album (not Adam yet) w/o promotion.

  355. Lucky you.. I must say he looked ‘very happy’  to be there so I can only imagin the banter’ ¦.lol

    I’m glad it never got posted during the season as people were not ready at that point to hear Adam drop the F-Bomb so easily. A few other choice words too.

  356. While on treadmill, five minutes ago, saw two back-to-back ads for 2012 on Comcast (Fox). Ads said look for a scene from the movie on October 1.

  357. I hate Four Non-Blondes, but I like Adam singing What’s Going On awright. Not one of my favorite performances, tho, gotta say. Bring on Strut. ;)

  358. I saw facebook pics of him performing at the private New Orleans Idol party’”50yo birthday party at the Rossevelt Hotel’”-

    Produce pics or at least FB account you saw them.

  359. He could swear sing.. yeah then send us a bubble tweet.. get it all out of his system…

  360. I still don’t know what Adam is going for in 2012 (well, not him, the writers/producers).

    Are we talking:

    Dream On (favorite Aerosmith song)
    Living On A Prayer (just heard that)
    Don’t Let the Sun Go Down On Me/Someone Saved My Life Tonight/etc (Elton John)

    Come on, people, I am tired of the facial hair conversation. Humor me! Plus…it’s on topic.

    Oh, no big announcement at 6:30. :(

  361. didn’t finish catching up on thread yet but awwww thanks dsp:)

    but gravatar won’t take it unless it has a link…

  362. I think maybe Don’t let the sun Go Down on me…..Danny ruined it for Dream on

  363. Oh, no big announcement at 6:30. :(

    Well he did “twat: he heading to the studio with Linda Perry…. :mrgreen:

    I’m guessing you were going for bigger then that… ;-)

  364. hi sherena:) no I’m serious.Adam only has the idol fanbase,which is big but SuBo has a lot of other ppl plus she’s international.does that make sense?probably not.haha

  365. AimeeMayoAbout to have a glow in the dark Birthday party with my kids in the basement… GLITTER CUPCAKES!!!!!!

    OK, even Aimee didn’t crack and spill any news today. Too busy celebrating her birthday with glittery cupcakes. Hmmmm, someone has to spill some news, and I was counting on her!!!!!

  366. Luv…I’m going to send u the link later if I can find it…I think I have it saved on my other computer

  367. As a rock power ballad, I like Guns & Roses November Rain…!

  368. Come on, people, I am tired of the facial hair conversation. Humor me! Plus’ ¦it’s on topic.

    Oh, no big announcement at 6:30. :(

    I thought that at 6:30 peeps were supposed to tweet something about Strut. I don’t participate in trends so I didn’t pay much attention yesterday when it was discussed.

  369. AimeeMayoAbout to have a glow in the dark Birthday party with my kids in the basement’ ¦ GLITTER CUPCAKES!!!!!

    Ok am I really losing it or is she hinting at something

  370. It’s not 6:30 in California. Not that I think there’s going to be any announcement, but letting ya know.

  371. Kanadie Bonttell
    September 28, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    As a rock power ballad, I like Guns & Roses November Rain’ ¦!

    Gets my vote!

  372. Oh, no big announcement at 6:30. :(

    Well he did ‘twat: he heading to the studio with Linda Perry’ ¦. :mrgreen:

    I’m guessing you were going for bigger then that’ ¦ ;-)

    Yep, a tad bigger. ;) I say Elton John is the way to go. So many awesome power ballads. But yeah, maybe California time. :)

    ETA: Hrrm. Glitter cupcakes. Sounds promising…

  373. OH NOES!!! I have to have dinner.be back soon.

    I remember that picture is from ontd_ai.the meet and greet where ge had the blue and black sweater with the leather trim…(sad I remember this)

    I have to catch up on the thread later…

    I was reading a book.haven’t done that(except 4 school) for months.I used to read like 20 books a week….

  374. My butt has been in the computer chair for 3 and a half hours and no leak yet.

    LIFE IS UNFAIR.

  375. @SueBrody,
    Some examples I found of “rock ballads” were:

    Pat Benetar – Love is a Battlefield
    Kiss – Beth
    Queen – We are the Champions
    Boston – More than a Feeling
    Foreigner – I Want to Know What Love Is
    Styx – Lady
    Moody Blues – Knights in White Satin

  376. Crazy at Mark’s Garage

    You know, I’d never seen this version– and I thought I had seen all versions of Crazy!! Adam looks scrumptious
    here. And sounds– well– like Adam– GREAT!!

  377. I still don’t know what Adam is going for in 2012 (well, not him, the writers/producers).

    Are we talking:

    Dream On (favorite Aerosmith song)
    Living On A Prayer (just heard that)
    Don’t Let the Sun Go Down On Me/Someone Saved My Life Tonight/etc (Elton John)

    Come on, people, I am tired of the facial hair conversation. Humor me! Plus’ ¦it’s on topic

    I’m hoping for something along the lines of this .. as in “Highlander”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zss3XloqkSo&feature=related

  378. adamaloha
    September 28, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Crazy at Mark’s Garage

    You know, I’d never seen this version’“ and I thought I had seen all versions of Crazy!! Adam looks scrumptious
    here. And sounds’“ well’“ like Adam’“ GREAT!!

    I never saw this version either….LOVE IT

  379. I’m hoping for something along the lines of this .. as in ‘Highlander’ 

    Wow, karenw, I can totally see this type of Queen song for a movie such as 2012. Of course, I flove Queen so anything Queenlike will make me happy. Something like this would also explain Brian May turning into a pool of abdul when he heard the song. lol.

  380. Boston and Foreigner. And Styx. I love these bands. I grew up w/ these bands. I am old. ;)

    I wanna know what love is….I want you to show me.

    Mmmkay…

  381. You know, I’d never seen this version’“ and I thought I had seen all versions of Crazy!! Adam looks scrumptious
    here. And sounds’“ well’“ like Adam’“ GREAT!!

    That perf has been on YT for over a year. There are a couple from that same day taken from different angles.

    Mark’s is the identical place as Upright. It’s Upright Cafe at Mark’s Garage.

    I also have a personal copy of this. Actually I have a copy of all Adam’s perf’s at Upright. Even though they are on YT, they are my little treasures.

  382. I also have a personal copy of this. Actually I have a copy of all Adam’s perf’s at Upright. Even though they are on YT, they are my little treasures

    Lucky woman.

    And I probably saw this from an other angle. This particular one is especially good, I think, close up.. and the audio is decent for a change.

  383. Dear suebrody – ran to my iPod to put “I want to know what love is” – Yes, my dear – can hear Adam singing something just like that.

  384. adamaloha, that is the best version of Crazy EVER. The glory note at the end is ridiculous. And look at the way he smiled. :) Plus: SpikeyElvisEmoHair!!!

    *swoonage*

    Hot blooded…check it and see…I’ve got a fever of a hundred and three…

    (Foreigner)

  385. Lee, I Wanna Know What Love Is is one of my all-time favorite songs. Can you imagine Adam singing it? Well, I sure can. *swaying* *glow sticks*

    Cheap Trick would be cool.

    Hrrm, who else:

    New Kids on the Block
    Nsync
    Backstreet Boys

    *ducking*

    I still vote for Elton John. Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me…and honestly, Someone Saved My Life Tonight would be *perfect*.

  386. suebrody
    September 28, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    adamaloha, that is the best version of Crazy EVER. The glory note at the end is ridiculous. And look at the way he smiled. Plus: SpikeyElvisEmoHair!!!

    *swoonage*

    Exactly! I love this version of Crazy- he looks like he’s having a great time. And I love how he grins after his performances. Like he’s a little kid all proud of himself saying, “hey did ya see what I just did?”

  387. suebrody
    September 28, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    adamaloha, that is the best version of Crazy EVER. The glory note at the end is ridiculous. And look at the way he smiled. Plus: SpikeyElvisEmoHair!!!

    Yes. This is now my favorite Crazy– his voice is KILLER on this. His hair is perfect. How the heck did I miss this????

    Oh, well, it’s now my new shiny toy. On to my iPod it goes.

  388. heyyyy…I ctuallu know thenames of most of those bands…;)

  389. I wanna know what love is’ ¦.I want you to show me.

    You know Mariah Carey has just released a cover of that ‘“ IKR? And no one gave her grief for releasing a cover.

    Oops, got to go to work event!

  390. I could also see Adam’s “2012” song being along the lines of Annie Lennox’s “Love Song For A Vampire” from the film “Interview With A Vampire”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhG8zC4npsE

    I wonder if they’ve chosen his single yet .. wasn’t it supposed to be picked today?

  391. What’s up?
    Adam Lambert’s album is up at #2 on Amazon.
    Except Adam is in the studio with Linda Perry writing/producing a song for the album thats up at #2 on Amazon…
    I say hey, yeah yeah yeah. What’s going on?
    :D

  392. I was thinking of something else about Drake while he and Adam were in NO this weekend. How is it that Drake got off from work so easily? Usually when you are a waiter, you are working weekends. It was a new job so what did he do? Just quit?

  393. Sunn
    September 28, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Good morning, Looks like a slow night.

    I need some news :(

    Don’t we all? Hi Sunn.

  394. How is it that Drake got off from work so easily? Usually when you are a waiter, you are working weekends. It was a new job so what did he do? Just quit?

    Probably switched with someone…or quit…

  395. I wonder what Adam sang at this private party? He probably did ROF.

  396. I wonder what Adam sang at this private party? He probably did ROF.

    Counting on video. :)

  397. heeee 50 yo b-day;)IMO creepy stupid and… I’m JELLUS!!!

    I luv you, Luvie

    haha I love you too adamaloha:)AWESOME VIDEO;)!!!!

    What’s Going On awright

    BLASPHEMY!!!

    He could swear sing.. yeah then send us a bubble tweet.. get it all out of his system’ ¦

    Ok am I really losing it or is she hinting at something

    LMAO
    YES PLEASE!!!

    GLITTER CUPCAKES

    glitter cupcakes… I liked her for a reason ..

    Luv’ ¦I’m going to send u the link later if I can find it’ ¦I think I have it saved on my other computer

    REALLY??!YOU WOULD TRY TO DO THAT??!! THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY LIFE-MAYBE!!!!! thosea re my favorite Adam pictures-EVER!!!
    and I have like 1800 lol

  398. <Good morning, Looks like a slow night.

    I need some news

    HI SUNN!!!!!! :D :D :D
    >

  399. i have stuff to do tonight so I ACTUALLY have to sleep early-ish.NO LURKINGD: sux right?

    well I’m watching crazy and then GNIGHT!!!!!!!!

  400. gotta go. bye for now.
    Maybe when I come back we’ll have actual and real news. 8)

  401. I take it there has been no leak? Is something going on with Amazon? I have a friend who wanted to buy Adam’s CD and she searched for him and was sent on a wild goose chase where she encountered every album under the sun except his. She was close to a breakdown after scrolling through around 8 pages with no success. I told her to go to this site and follow the link so hopefully she did.

  402. VAlilac
    September 28, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    What’s up?
    Adam Lambert’s album is up at #2 on Amazon.
    Except Adam is in the studio with Linda Perry writing/producing a song for the album thats up at #2 on Amazon’ ¦
    I say hey, yeah yeah yeah. What’s going on?”

    And that’s about it. See ya’ll when there’s some serious news.!

  403. Adam is off the movers and shakers list (unless I missed him) It looks like the only way he would have stayed on it would be if he had NOT done so well in the first 24 hours. Since he is at #2 on the best sellers list, he probably wouldn’t get back on the other list even if he went to #1, since it measures improvement in rank. So I guess its really not a bad thing that he’s no longer a “Mover and Shaker”?

  404. last thing-best crazy evah

    MY MOM JUST SLMOST DISCOVERED ME

    GOODNIGHT EEEEK

  405. Such a slow day. I watched Megan and Matt’s video and can’t help wondering why we can not have one min, or 30 sec, of some new Adam. sigh…

  406. Yes, being off Movers and Shakers can be a good thing if your rank has stabilized.

    It’s really annoying that you get every Idol’s new CD but Adam’s when you search for his name in Amazon.

    Valiliac – In case you didn’t know, that pic is shopped.

  407. number8gurl: http://twitpic.com/jk1aq ‘“ @wishupnsta @adamlambert and Drake
    5 minutes ago from TwitPic

    EEEEEK!! There’s that darn facial hair again!!

    I’ll beg if I must to get him to shave……..PLEASE Adam, please shave!

  408. number8gurl: http://twitpic.com/jk1aq ‘“ @wishupnsta @adamlambert and Drake
    5 minutes ago from TwitPic

    Adam and Drake!

    count me as one not liking Adam’s face hair.

    that picture is a photoshop – but I still like the facial hair.

  409. Adam and Drake!

    That picture is so gruesome that Drake looks like the good-looking one.

    I think the dark hair works on Adam but not the dark mustache. It looks painted on.

  410. I think Adam looks great and altho I think he’s much better looking than Drake (and most every other guy) I saw some pictures of Drake’s family and his Dad is really a great looking guy and he has a cute sister, and brother who is better looking than him. I think his mom’s picture was in an earlier post. Seems like a nice family and they were at one of Adam’s Idol performances in the audience. How do I know all this well, I was bored and went over to Idol Forums, and they had a thread just for Lambry. It was over 150 pages so I just randomly picked 3 or 4 pages to look at and found the pictures. We need news of his single or movie song so that boredom doesn’t drive us to distraction and crazy fan sites.

  411. that picture is a photoshop ‘“ but I still like the facial hair.

    You mean Adam really wasn’t with Drake this weekend? :)

    That picture is so gruesome that Drake looks like the good-looking one

    I wouldn’t go quite that far but it’s still pretty bad!

  412. Squirrely
    September 28, 2009 at 9:44 pm
    number8gurl: http://twitpic.com/jk1aq ‘“ @wishupnsta @adamlambert and Drake
    5 minutes ago from TwitPic

    Adam and Drake!

    count me as one not liking Adam’s face hair.

    that picture is a photoshop ‘“ but I still like the facial hair.</blockquOTE

    YES BUT SUNN NEEDED SOME NEWS!
    ;-)

  413. NO NEWS AT ALL? NOTHING?? *pulling out Adam’s facial hair*

    Thank you!!!!

  414. NO NEWS AT ALL? NOTHING?? *pulling out Adam’s facial hair*

    LOL

    Let me help you pull it out :D

    Now playing: Christina Aguilera. One could do worse. ‘Keeps Getting Better.’ 

    One could DEFINITELY do worse. I love her.

    I think the dark hair works on Adam but not the dark mustache. It looks painted on.

    It does. Or glued on…. err, was gonna make a comparison to something it really reminds me of, but decided it was too disturbing, lol.

  415. I was bored and looked at the genres of music at Amazon. Adam still doesn’t have a category? And SuBo is listed under “Rock”. If Adam was listed here too, he would be #1. I am thinking they are waiting for some samples? (I just find it hard to think of SuBo as rock)

  416. HI Adamaloha,

    My idea of a good rock ballad, hoping TFM is similar, is:

    Muse’s Time Is Running Out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLL2jkD-RZE

    LOL what a surprise, Sunn. ;) (j/k–I love Muse now, too, but that isn’t really a POWER BALLAD)

    This is from VH-1, the Big 80s, the Big Power Hair, Volume 1:

    1. Cum on Feel the Noize – Quiet Riot Listen
    2. Talk Dirty to Me – Poison Listen
    3. Round and Round – Ratt Listen
    4. Here I Go Again – Whitesnake Listen
    5. Once Bitten Twice Shy – Great White Listen
    6. Up All Night – Slaughter Listen
    7. Rock You Like a Hurricane – Scorpions Listen
    8. Cherry Pie – Warrant Listen
    9. Headed for a Heartbreak – Winger Listen
    10. Burning Like a Flame – Dokken Listen
    11. Last Mile – Cinderella Listen
    12. Cryin’ – Vixen Listen
    13. Feel It Again – Honeymoon Suite Listen
    14. Mutha (Don’t Wanna Go to School Today) – Extreme Listen
    15. Summertime Girls – Y&T Listen
    16. We’re Not Gonna Take It – Twisted Sister Listen

    Not sure if this is what Adam has tweeted. ;)

  417. I am still learning from everyone here how these charts and numbers work. I remember a similar thread right after the final show comparing Kris and Adam and who’s going to do or sell more bla bla bla bla. My statement is is strictly an observation. This is my disclaimer, cuz im not into fanwaring!!! So here it is. Kris’s votes could easily be a result of alot of texts , rightly earned and counted. Who did alot of text voting??? tweens? teanagers ?Is this a huge part of his fan base??and,who imo come into this world armed knowing how to text effectively. I know how frusterated I was not being able to do this cuz of my carrier, but being out of touch with so much I didnt know before hand I could purchase a prepaid phone to text. (showing my age) Only spending time at this site, it seemed that most of us were in the same position and did the majority of our voting for Adam by dialing in. So here is my point…… if a good majority of Kris’s fans are young, they are a bit more savy with the internet and will do more ordering from itunes and disposable $$$$ is not at their fingertips. If Adams fans tend to be of the more mature age, (which has been spewed out there many times ) We control the when, on what and how much $$$$ is spent on music. And many use the Amazon pre order option more frequently along with i tunes. In addition as a parent of 12, 16 and 19 yr olds they can text their fingers off, but I am not giving them an overabundance of $$$$ to spend. THey have to earn it, and 99% of the time it is going to be an I tune card. My 16 yr old loved Kris during the season and on tour, however, she has no intetrest in his entire cd. I find that her and her friends hardly ever buy a full album from i tunes. They pick the singles they like. I dont even remember the last time we purchased an actual cd. Never have we pre-ordered from Amazon. I dont know if this is normal or not. Does this make sense????
    Numbers now are fun to gaggle over, but if I am understanding this whole thing, i tunes seems to be a heavier indicator. And will those numbers track singles and entire cds? When do the actual hard copies sold from retailers get counted and where do they get applied. Yup, I just revealed my total lack of knowledge. Please somebody ejukate me!! In the most simple terms possible.

  418. nvm, already pointed out.

    By the way, I just posted a Seattle Times review of Kris’ single in the headline thread if anyone is interested.

  419. That looks like it’s been photoshopped from the other two pics. I think it’s a manip.

    Oh, thank god. That means the facial hair isn’t recent…

  420. Am I the only one who thinks that Adam must have to dye his facial hair? There is no way that a freckled blonde can produce dark facial hair like that. He won’t keep this look for long. Waaay too much maintenance even for a guy who doesn’t mind spending time in front of the mirror. Plus he’ll get bored.

    In the absence of any leaks or new music I’ve resorted to posting on facial hair, which, by the way, I don’t prefer. I do like him changing it up, tho. Makes him more interesting.

  421. greeneyedlady
    September 28, 2009 at 8:46 pm
    And I love how he grins after his performances. Like he’s a little kid all proud of himself saying, ‘hey did ya see what I just did?’ 

    Ah. You’ve touched on one of my favorite things about him. Even on the Idol tour after each perf…as he was sinking down into the floor he still gave that little boy grin. “Wow, are you all clappin’ fer me? Really?”

  422. I also have other CD in minds:

    Pure 80s, e.g., like Heat of the Moment, Asia or Eye of the Tiger, Survivor (I listened to this stuff growing up)

    AND MY FAVORITE: Sister Christian, Knight Ranger

    *pulling out more of Adam’s facial hair as I await more news, or any, really

  423. It says it’s a manip right on the photo!

    If it is who would do something so cruel? Mean, mean person!!

  424. Am I the only one who thinks that Adam must have to dye his facial hair?

    This was mentioned upstream, but, anyway, in an interview, Adam was asked if he would ever grow facial hair. His response was “no, and it would be the wrong color anyway”. So he definitely was busy with the hair dye.

    Oh, thank god. That means the facial hair isn’t recent’ ¦

    The photoshop manip is from two pics taken this weekend.

  425. Sherena
    September 28, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    That looks like it’s been photoshopped from the other two pics. I think it’s a manip.

    Oh, thank god. That means the facial hair isn’t recent’ ¦

    It’s recent I think. I think the pics were from NOLA, right?

  426. SueBrody – Shhhhh – BSB – “I Want It That Way” and CT’s “Flame” (I didn’t tell you that.) (Whatisface Nick Carter? looks like a blond Adam.) (I didn’t tell you that either.)

  427. KLI
    September 28, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Am I the only one who thinks that Adam must have to dye his facial hair? There is no way that a freckled blonde can produce dark facial hair like that. He won’t keep this look for long. Waaay too much maintenance even for a guy who doesn’t mind spending time in front of the mirror. Plus he’ll get bored.

    In the absence of any leaks or new music I’ve resorted to posting on facial hair, which, by the way, I don’t prefer. I do like him changing it up, tho. Makes him more interesting.

    My son has very dark hair but when he tries to grow any facial hair it is blond and light red.

    My dad had jet black hair and his facial hair was red and brown.

  428. Sherena
    September 28, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    That looks like it’s been photoshopped from the other two pics. I think it’s a manip.

    Oh, thank god. That means the facial hair isn’t recent’ ¦

    It’s recent I think. I think the pics were from NOLA, right?

    ….
    …….
    You’re not allowed to talk anymore. *cries*

  429. oh no definitely not a fan of that beardy moustachio look on Adam .. every time I see it it reminds me of Ricky Gervais when he did a skit as part of The Office where he was singing If You Don’t Know Me By Now

    http://www.ananova.com/images/web/81072.jpg

    I think it’s the way they both have that little bit of hair falling forward across the brow …..lol

  430. I think it’s the way they both have that little bit of hair falling forward across the brow ‘ ¦..lol

    You pegged it but Drake has more of a Ricky type nose.

  431. You’re not allowed to talk anymore.

    I can still type though, right?

    ….darn.

  432. I think Nick Carter from BSB looks like a blond Adam too. Anyway hes Aaron Carter’s older brother from DWTS, ” I Want it That Way” too!!!

  433. You’re not allowed to talk anymore. *cries*

    ((Sherena)) …….. let’s pray that Linda Perry dislikes it as much as some of us do and made him shave before his session in the studio tonight!

  434. JOJOSIE thanks and of course I went to IDF to check out more photos. I saw the one with Drake’s siblings. The photo makes me not like the face hair even more. Adam looked like their uncle. yike. The impact is more notable when compared to those beautiful signature pics below the posters. There is one sig pic of Adam describing spark coming out of his head when he looked like a kid. I just can’t believe these two pictures are from the same guy.

  435. This hair thing is absolutely insane – the butterfly nets are coming. Lock the doors, babes. Don’t forget the basement. Mine are double-bolted.

  436. Hi folks. Official “lurker” here. Have a question, what is IDF and where do I find these pics you all are talking about. Education needed here… :) thanks

  437. SueBrody ‘“ Shhhhh ‘“ BSB ‘“ ‘I Want It That Way’  and CT’s ‘Flame’  (I didn’t tell you that.) (Whatisface Nick Carter? looks like a blond Adam.) (I didn’t tell you that either.)

    LOL

    Actually, I like Eye of the Tiger and Heat of the Moment as POWER BALLADS. And Animotron, Obsession is so 80s (like Soft Cell, INXS, etc.)

    See how i can keep this thread on topic?

    You’re welcome, mj. Anytime.

  438. Anything happen at 6:30? At quick glimpse, I’m not seeing anything flail worthy. Not even battin an eyelash worthy. Prolly nothing tonite then.

    I just had a major thought. I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before. You know how people were saying the Amazon pre-order numbers weren’t very significant? People don’t all buy through Amazon. They may go through B&N, BB (Best Buy), and any other place they may offer CDs. If Adam is holding at #2 at Amazon, it is highly likely he is holding somewhere around that ranking at other places too.

  439. haha sidewalkstory… your “passable” one was the one that clearone just labelled “even worse” than the others…

  440. dab1234, IDF is idolforums.com, and the pictures are under Season 8, Adam lambert. He has lots of threads and it’s one called Lambry. I think the pictures are in the 30 something pages. Hope this helps. I just looked and there are more pictures on the last page also.

  441. dab1234
    September 28, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Hi folks. Official ‘lurker’  here. Have a question, what is IDF and where do I find these pics you all are talking about. Education needed here’ ¦ :) thanks

    IdolForum.com

  442. haha sidewalkstory’ ¦ your ‘passable’  one was the one that clearone just labelled ‘even worse’  than the others’ ¦

    sidewalkstory, please tell me you’re not caving!

    Those others are even more awful!! Drake has Adam wearing a tank shirt. *stomps feet* and forbids Adam from ever going to New Orleans ever again!!

  443. haha sidewalkstory’ ¦ your ‘passable’  one was the one that clearone just labelled ‘even worse’  than the others’ ¦

    heeee.

    Edit: clearone, I’m definitely not caving. But that last one wasn’t atrocious.

    And Adam has on white pants?

  444. *sneaks in* *whispers*

    I kinda like the facial hair. Adam looks like Errol Flynn, who I always thought was amazingly hot.

    Don’t get me wrong, I want him to shave, but it is cool to see the many looks of Adam. ;)

    I commented in the ‘headlines’ thread about the Kris review from Seattle Times. The writer was a huge Kris stan and blogged during the season. She really disliked Adam and made no bones about it. Thus, the ridiculous poll.

  445. Thanks Adamland and JoJosie. I looked at the ones at Planet Fierce and I think I’ve seen enough. Really not a good look for any of them. I will look for others after I have recovered a little. :)

  446. rowenaaine – you want nightmares? You got ’em.

    I hope he was blotto – sees this picture – and says, “This is definitely not the way to go.”

  447. Oh please stop! He looks even worse in that one!!!!

    lol .. it’s like some sort of perverse torture being in this thread tonight

    This one has to take the prize for one of the worst Adam pics ever …lol

    http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae189/Adam_Lambert_Pics_Emilie09/Drake/9619_1251323806073_1318853898_72061.jpg

    They look like they should be down our local market selling fruit and veg off a stall

    Ah well .. at least they were having fun …. I’m just going to pretend that they were at some sort of “dress like a prat” fancy dress party

  448. Okay after looking at that picture of Adam in the tank, there is no way that he was the guy behind Drake in the puppy picture. I see no moobage.

    Drake’s mom looks a little drunk..lol

  449. This pains me to say this, but this is the worst Adam’s ever looked.

    Why post personal photos on th internet, knowing the fans are searching for any and everything.

    I bet they came from the one of the Labry’s photobuckets. I do not like Drake, Drakes family and friends. I think they are all famewhores.

    They tweet and post way to much personal stuff about Adam.

  450. I do not like Drake, Drakes family and friends. I thing they are all famewhores.

    They tweet and post way to much personal stuff about Adam.

    ITA …. that’s why I said earlier, Adam don’t let Drake drag you down.

  451. just to get back to the title of the thread .. those pics aren’t going to do Adam’s CD pre orders any good … I sense thousands rushing to cancel their orders (just joking) ….lol

    Now we need a pic of Barbara Streisand looking a bit rough in a tank top and a bit of facial hair to drag her sales down too.

  452. Oh . . . I didn’t realize that there had already been sbstantive discussion about whether he dyes the facial hair. I was wondering why nobody had pointed out the obvious. Now I know. Slow news day, eh??

  453. any second, any second. the toothpick in Adam’s mouth is coming. I’m afraid if there are any more pics.

    Adam, you were a cool city guy. WTF?

  454. I bet they came from the one of the Labry’s photobuckets. I do not like Drake, Drakes family and friends. I thing they are all famewhores.

    They tweet and post way to much personal stuff about Adam.

    Who would have thought a guy who goes by the name “Cheeks” would be the example of class and respect. :)

    I think Drake and his family may not really understand the fame game yet. I suspect everyone is on a learning curve.

  455. Just finished reading through this thread. I have gone through the high of Adam trending well on Amazon to the low of Adam attending a Cajun party. Thank god it’s not crawfish season or we would have seen him sucking on a crawfish head.

  456. any second, any second. the toothpick in Adam’s mouth is coming. I’m afraid if there are any more pics.

    Adam, you were a cool city guy. WTF?

    Well, it has been said that Adam “mirrors” the people he is with.

  457. I wonder if those are the white jeans from Mad World. He seems to recycle his performance wardrobe alot. :)

  458. He’s on vacation, give him a break…lol.

    He was prolly trying to blend.

    Ummm can someone please be in charge of reminding me of the following:

    Go to IDF to look at pictures, but do not read comments!!

    Feel a little icky now.

  459. I think Drake and his family may not really understand the fame game yet. I suspect everyone is on a learning curve.

    Yeah but Adam should know better by now than to put himself in that position.

  460. Okay, guys, I must speak up on behalf of my heritage. I am French, first generation on one side, second on the other. The second generation peeps settled in New Iberia because of long lost ancestors.

    I have spent much time taking in the Cajun culture. They are the friendliest, most fun-loving group of people I have ever encountered. They aren’t sleazy. They aren’t felons. They aren’t white trash. They are kind, loving, musical and delightful.

    Between relatives in New Iberia and NO, I felt like I was visiting Europe instead of the uptight USA.

    I’m not really calling anyone out, just representing my heritage. If I didn’t my mojo would be greatly affected. Hee. You don’t mess with the voodoo!!

    Seriously, Adam was just taken with the culture. He will be back to ‘normal’ in no time. :)

  461. Time for Adam to go back on the AI tour.
    .
    (P.S. This is really nasty – so don’t read if you’re a kind person – but Drake look like an Italian waiter with an attitude.) Forgive me, please. Can’t help what I think. Open to criticism. . . . . . . .)

    Please, want to go back a few weeks.

    Only want to hear voice – no more personal crap.

  462. any second, any second. the toothpick in Adam’s mouth is coming. I’m afraid if there are any more pics.

    Adam, you were a cool city guy. WTF?

    We will know an intervention needs to take place if he starts to do the “boot – scoot – & boogy”

  463. He was prolly trying to blend

    lol … well he is a bit of a chameleon so they say

  464. I have spent much time taking in the Cajun culture. They are the friendliest, most fun-loving group of people I have ever encountered. They aren’t sleazy. They aren’t felons. They aren’t white trash. They are kind, loving, musical and delightful

    I’m sure they have their share of felons, white trash and sleazy people like all other culters. By the way, I’m not lumping Drake and his family in any of those categories.

  465. (P.S. This is really nasty ‘“ so don’t read if you’re a kind person ‘“ but Drake look like an Italian waiter with an attitude.)

    I have 100% Italian heritage and I LMAO at this.

    Edit: Cajun culture: It doesn’t matter what culture it is, it could have been hillbillies. Adam regressed from a city slicker to a backwater boy with silly facial hair. That is what we are laughing about. Lighten up.

  466. any second, any second. the toothpick in Adam’s mouth is coming. I’m afraid if there are any more pics.

    Adam, you were a cool city guy. WTF?

    He looks like Cooter from the old Dukes of Hazzard TV show in the latest pics. What the hell has he done to himself? He needs some sort of Glam intervention.

  467. Le Bon Temps Roule (Let the good times roll) is the theme for Acadiana where Drakes hail from.

    I have spent much time taking in the Cajun culture. They are the friendliest, most fun-loving group of people I have ever encountered. They aren’t sleazy. They aren’t felons. They aren’t white trash. They are kind, loving, musical and delightful.

    Being from the area, (Opelousas, LA), I don’t totally disagree with you. However, fun loving and friendly does not necessarily rule out less positive characteristics of the Cajun culture. No further posts on this issue. I am too biased.

  468. I think Drake and his family may not really understand the fame game yet. I suspect everyone is on a learning curve.

    Yeah but Adam should know better by now than to put himself in that position.

    Can’t go through the whole 500 posts, but what happened? Adam put himself in what position?

  469. Adam looks like he was enjoying himself at Pat O’briens in the French Quarter—his trip would not have been complete without having the fruity punch called the “Hurricaine”…. and I was out and about in the city this weekend and it was hot and humid so glad to see he was sleeveless and enjoying himself…Lord knows he has worked hard and deserves a lil R and R

  470. I had to bring this post over from another board, cuz I lololed like crazy because it’s so true!!

    ALSO WHY IN ALL THE TWEETS WE HAD ABOUT ADAM BEING RANDOM PLACES IN NOLA, NOT ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE “OMG FACIAL HAIR”

    I knoooooooooow right??

  471. Okay, so I haven’t missed anything. ;) Perhaps leakage…TOMORROW???

  472. Can’t go through the whole 500 posts, but what happened? Adam put himself in what position?

    The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

  473. Wow – I was out all evening. What a fuss over a few photos that SHOULD be private of some vacation time! How about “when in Rome …”? How weird would he have seemed if he had dressed all glam for what looks like a family cookout? He dressed somewhat similar to his hosts which is the polite thing to do. Also, nearly every guy I know seems to like to grow a little facial hair on vacation – it usually is gone the first day they are back to work.

  474. What a fuss over a few photos that SHOULD be private of some vacation time!

    That’s one of the points. Who let these pvt pic’s be public? Drake’s family?

  475. We let Adam out for one weekend and what the hell has he done to himself? That sleveless black plaid tanktop? Ugly. And that one photo, I’ll take the blond BSB Nick Carter! Come on Adam, get your ducks in a row, and get back to your gorgeous self PLEASE! That waiter is ruining you!

  476. The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    I think people are just teasing and no one is really taking this seriously. :)

  477. We let Adam out for one weekend and what the hell has he done to himself?

    lol, I’m in a giggling fit now.

  478. The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    LOL!
    ITA. This freakout over the hair is hilarious. Can’t wait to see what happens when he gets the arm tattoo, smelling salts will be needed. LOL

  479. The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    I guess he has to be camera ready at all times. i think he looks fine – not his usual glam self but okay for a guy on vacation.

  480. Uh…to change the subject from Adam’s ‘Cajun’ weekened look, I think if 2012’s TFM song had the sound of any of the Queen songs talked about tonight, it would be good.

    But the best live performance, to me, that Freddie and Queen ever did was at the 1985 Live Aid Concert, especially when they sang, Radio GaGA. It tried to do the link but I think you’ll probably have to type it to see the video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=LncAQR47eZo&feature=PlayList&p=F0D9BEACABBF09BD

    Looks like I messed up trying to do the link…sorry! I just can’t get the hang of doing the links.

  481. The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    I guess he has to be camera ready at all times. i think he looks fine ‘“ not his usual glam self but okay for a guy on vacation.

    No problem with the facial hair. I think he looks hot. It’s that other thing that I won’t comment about.

  482. Squirrely
    September 28, 2009 at 11:39 pm
    The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    I guess he has to be camera ready at all times. i think he looks fine ‘“ not his usual glam self but okay for a guy on vacation.

    I think the reality that Adam really is a guy who apparently likes to let himself go a bit while on vacation (like alot of guys) is hitting those that think he really is a glittery alien a little too hard.

    He’s only a glittery alien when he’s not on VACATION!

  483. Someone tweeted that they think RCA needs to employ grief counselors.

  484. I think the reality that Adam really is a guy who apparently likes to let himself go a bit while on vacation

    Actually I think a lot of effort went into that facial hair. He even had to dye it.

  485. He’s only a glittery alien when he’s not on VACATION!

    Well, I damn glad that he’s back at work.

  486. Adam has worn that black and white tank before but he was wearing a jacket over it. He looked fabulous. I can’t remember where the photo is but I think his hair was up and he looked kind of boyish. Here it doesn’t look great but it can look good I don’t think he got that tank for his trip. Let’s try to be kind here guys. He is on vacation trying to fit in with the family. After everything he’s done for his fan if he wants to dress like this he should be able to do it.

    but only once!! LOL

  487. Yes, in today’s culture, EVERYTHING”S “fair game.” That’s the way it is in 2009, and in 2010 will get even more so. Is is right? Don’t think so – but how do you deal with it.? This evening looked like fun IF you were there, but, someone taking photos, hmmm, that’s the problem – you can wind up looking like a jerk. What’s the answer? Got me. Adam’s been pretty free with what he does up until now – in the future? – that’s a different thing entirely. It’s a delicate balance between being outlandish and being downloadable, and Adam, being very savvy, surely knows this. I seriously think that, if something became adverse to his career – which is the most important thing in his life – he would, like Obama, “throw it under the bus.”

  488. sidewalkstory
    September 28, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Someone tweeted that they think RCA needs to employ grief counselors.

    HA HA HA
    I wish that I had thought of that.

  489. Actually I think a lot of effort went into that facial hair. He even had to dye it.

    Yep and it’s still up in the air that this was totally a vacation (a whole 2 day one at that!) if he performed at that private party. He’s been in the public eye for the better part of a year now and he has always been dressed and groomed well….even on previous vacations.

  490. Ohh, those pictures. I thought I missed sth major. Adam’s never a boring one-look kind of guy. so….

  491. Sunn
    September 28, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    The unforgiveable position of growing a bit of facial hair and wearing a tank top, WHILE ON VACATION apparently.

    LOL!
    ITA. This freakout over the hair is hilarious. Can’t wait to see what happens when he gets the arm tattoo, smelling salts will be needed. LOL

    sidewalkstory
    September 28, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    We let Adam out for one weekend and what the hell has he done to himself?

    lol, I’m in a giggling fit now.

    Sorry for my weird sense of humor, it is like undercooked stated and I decided to temporarily join in with the wailing – but he does not look good with a tank top, that particular facial hair and the beanie. (sidewakstory – I have laughed so much I am crying )

  492. Even Danny’s cousing Joel is in on the pic action. He seems to be retweeting.

    The one with the beanie and the white pants is really making the laugh circuit.

  493. Adam adjusted his wardrobe for Drake? Where was the Drake adjustments in his appearances with Adam. Same old tank tops. Hmmmm.

    He doesn’t seem to have adjusted anything for Adam considering Adam is now in the public eye…….wait…..he moved to LA with his tank shirts.

  494. Where was the Drake adjustments in his appearances with Adam.

    You missed the pic where Drake had a shirt on. Some checkered thing that he must have gotten from the boy’s dept of a discount store.

  495. I can’t tell if it is real angst or a joke – not seeing many smilies…

    What is truly bizzare is that I can’t imagine this “look” is going to last too long. ALL the promo photography and album cover photography is clean shaven. They will want THAT look for the promotional appearances. Why get upset about something that is probably just a short term experiment?

  496. Hah!! I knew I’d seen the tank before. See? Adam can go glam (sushi samba in Chicago) or go Cajun with just some minor stling changes.

    Fear not! Adam always dresses for the ocassion.

  497. Oh – also meant to say that it will probably take Drake’s family a little while to figure out they need to be very careful about putting photos online. One assumes that whoever put these on the web didn’t expect they would be found and made public. Some of Adam’s twitter friends have obviously been learning similar lessons – has anyone noticed how very rarely any of them tweet at Adam anymore and it is usually something very generic if they do…

  498. Ya know, if there were stinkin leaks of songs, we could leave Waiter Drake, and Facial, Hair, tank top Adam alone, and minutely pick the song leak apart, note by note. Adam if you were wise, you would drop a few notes off on Twitter, Hey I can name that song in ONE, note!!!!

  499. Don’t some people realize that Adam’s mustache is as important as whether Israel is going to take out Iran? Sad, but true, And why am I here? Open to answers. Only funny ones. Yeah, sweethearts, luvtolaf.

  500. Is there real angst? Or is it just a running joke people are having fun with.

    It was real angst this afternoon. Now I’ve lived with it a little and have to make myself laugh about it.

  501. Ferras is off to work with Aimee on their song for Adam:

    Headin to nashville tom morn to write with the fabulous @aimeemayo for a few days. My first nashville writing trip! Wish me luck!Go country!5:22 PM Sep 26th from TwitterBerry
    OhFerras (Ferras AlQaisi)

    Hope it’s good.

    Also, if Aimee is right, they have now picked Adam’s single! Is it “Strut”, Aimee/Ryan Tedder/Dr. Luke’s song or the third mysterious song (Max Martin/Andreas Carlsson maybe)?

  502. Back on topic. I am excited about tomorrow. Maybe delusional. I just didn’t expect anything today. Adam went to work late today and I don’t think that was accidental. He may not be practising, but he still has to respect his Mom.

    It’s late and the spelling is suspect. Sue me.

  503. Well, we know that he will be in the news for Donorschoose.org since the official press release was issued today. Don’t know if we’ll get more than that, though.

  504. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 12:08 am
    Back on topic. I am excited about tomorrow. Maybe delusional. I just didn’t expect anything today.

    By today, do you mean Monday or Tuesday? It’s Tuesday for me.

  505. Also, if Aimee is right, they have now picked Adam’s single! Is it ‘Strut’ , Aimee/Ryan Tedder/Dr. Luke’s song or the third mysterious song (Max Martin/Andreas Carlsson maybe)?


    OH
    THANK
    GOD

    Maybe we can actually discuss his music tomorrow.

    *sigh of relief*

    Sunn, it’s now 12:13AM EST, so Tuesday here as well.

  506. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 12:08 am
    Back on topic. I am excited about tomorrow. Maybe delusional. I just didn’t expect anything today.

    By today, do you mean Monday or Tuesday? It’s Tuesday for me.

    Sorry, international fans. It’s still Monday for me.

    BTW, he’s still at #2. Watch out Babs. He’s gunning for you. Back off that guy from Will and Grace.

    Too bad Adam’s not in the Top 100 of movers and shakers. We all know how good he is at moving and shaking.

    Sorry MJ, I know you have asked us to limit the exits, but it just seems rude to go without saying goodnight. Silent night, Bitches.

  507. It’s Tues in NYC too. I’ve learned to live without sleep. Besides, everything seems to happen on Twitter at midnight. That’s when Adam used to tweet, or someone tweeted from a bar he was at, or the CA people hit their computers.

  508. Forgive me if this is posted…tried to post and got kicked off….re the pics of Adam with Drake and Drake’s family…looks like they were at Pat O’Briens in the French Quarter having the fruity punch “Hurricaine”…and it was HOT and HUMID in NO this past weekend so while I was out and about and hoping to run into Adam I was also wondering how the hell was he going to be about in his normal black attire and jackets and perfectly styled hair…glad to see that he was able to let loose and have fun..Lord knows he has worked hard enough to deserve time off

  509. I tried to read all the comments, really… I got to 3:50 p.m on 9/28.

    All I want to say is… I can’t wait for Adam’s cd.

  510. Is there real angst? Or is it just a running joke people are having fun with. I kind of see it as the later. But maybe that is just my perception.

    yeah, that’s all I’m doing as I have nothing better to do at the moment … I actually don’t give a rat’s arse what Adam is wearing or looks like when he’s in private with friends .. I’m just killing time until we get the tunezzzzzzz

  511. Now we need a pic of Barbara Streisand looking a bit rough in a tank top and a bit of facial hair to drag her sales down too.

    Favorite post of the night! Thank you, karenw, for the grins.

    And now it’s time to pack it in. Hopefully we’ll have real news tomorrow!

  512. Ugh, I knew it was only a matter of time before Drake’s truly atrocious taste started rubbing off on Adam. And in such a NASTY way.

    My only hope if that maybe this was his incognito look? To fool people? Make his bad taste boyfriend’s family feel better and fit in more with them?

    I only know Adam looked genuinely ick! for the first time I’ve seen him. Way to do Drake (knew he and those ugly Twink Tanks were trouble).

    As to the important things (though Adam looking like CAR-rap is important), happy to see Adam did as well as he did on Amazon, though glad to see all the disclaimers about it. Which are very important so that the raw numbers and hype don’t get too out of hand (no help needed there).

    Okay, back to the dregs of my vacation..

  513. Time to go back to the serious stuff – record release, etc. – really gonna miss the mustache thread. (So many funny people.) But happy here ’cause I think the sweet guy is really gonna make it. What’s a good house warming gift? Dimmers?

    (Another P.S. – Mentioned previously that I saw the 2012 ad tonight (twice) with ad saying 2012 scene to be shown on 10/1. This is the first time in a month I’ve looked at TV – has this ad been shown before tonight (Monday).? Thanks.

  514. I have no idea this pic that is being discussed and cannot imagine going through this thread to find it. Over 600 posts of flail and laughs over no Adam leak and a pic of him looking rough in NOLA?! Does this sum up this thread?And can someone re-post that pic so I can know what you guys are talking about?

    Gah! We need the music sooooon!

  515. I have no idea this pic that is being discussed and cannot imagine going through this thread to find it. Over 600 posts of flail and laughs over no Adam leak and a pic of him looking rough in NOLA?! Does this sum up this thread?And can someone re-post that pic so I can know what you guys are talking about?

    Gah! We need the music sooooon!

    yeah, what you said!!!

  516. Mila
    September 28, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Interestingly enough, we still haven’t heard who wrote it.

    It was Alain Johanes and his wife Natasha ‘“ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Johannes

    Where is this information coming from regarding the 2012 song? If it’s true, why isn’t it mentioned on their Wiki page? And if it’s been confirmed, why hasn’t MJ posted about it? Or did I miss that?

    ETA: If Natasha died in 2008, doesn’t it call into question whether the song was written specifically for the movie, as it has to be to be eligible for an Oscar?

    An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture.

  517. Dear Truthiness – you lived up to your name, thank heavens. Drake (please forgive me if there is a god and even if there isn’t) is creepy looking. He has a fat nose and a neck that is about a foot too long, and he dresses (as someone’s kid said) like a gay guy from the 1970’s. Adam, who has such great taste in music, finds this guy attractive – and one must live with this. Once I hear Adam’s music, I know I can – YES, I CAN.

  518. you lived up to your name, thank heavens. Drake (please forgive me if there is a god and even if there isn’t) is creepy looking. He has a fat nose and a neck that is about a foot too long, and he dresses (as someone’s kid said) like a gay guy from the 1970’s. Adam, who has such great taste in music, finds this guy attractive ‘“ and one must live with this. Once I hear Adam’s music, I know I can ‘“ YES, I CAN.

    You ´ve interpreted all my feelings. WE NEED MUSIC!

  519. I see Adam, relaxed, happy and relatively incognito, having a leisurely lunch with his boyfriend’s family over hurricanes in the French Quarter. So happy for him! NOLA rocks! After all the news of him working, working, working for months on end, boy, does he ever deserve this.

    Hope he got his beignets and bread pudding with whiskey sauce as well…

  520. austinmidwife
    September 29, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Can anyone just tell me what page to find that picture on?

    Sorry, austinmidwife the pictures are all on page 11

  521. Where is this information coming from regarding the 2012 song? If it’s true, why isn’t it mentioned on their Wiki page?

    Alain Johannes tweeted about it. Why it’s not on the Wiki page? Who knows. Probably Drake’s fault.

  522. Have we finally gotten the pictures of the Idol party Adam attended in NO that were supposed to be on Facebook?

  523. I think people found the info on ASCAP initially.

    TIME FOR MIRACLES (Title Code: 502883956)
    Writers:
    MOSCHULSKI ALAIN JOHANNES
    SHNEIDER NATASHA

    Performers:
    (none found)

    Variations:
    (none found)

    Publishers/Administrators:
    CHANNEL THIS MUSIC/SONY ATV HA
    % SONY ATV HARMONY
    % AMY CRANFORD
    8 MUSIC SQUARE WEST
    NASHVILLE , TN, 37203
    Tel. (615) 743-1779

    SONY ATV HARMONY
    % AMY CRANFORD
    8 MUSIC SQUARE WEST
    NASHVILLE , TN, 37203
    Tel. (615) 743-1779

    I think you missed it.

  524. dyg1
    September 29, 2009 at 12:49 am
    Have we finally gotten the pictures of the Idol party Adam attended in NO that were supposed to be on Facebook?

    Please we’ve had enough drama with the casual pictures of them in New orleans.

  525. Where is this information coming from regarding the 2012 song? If it’s true, why isn’t it mentioned on their Wiki page? And if it’s been confirmed, why hasn’t MJ posted about it? Or did I miss that?

    ETA: If Natasha died in 2008, doesn’t it call into question whether the song was written specifially for the movie, as it has to be to be eligible for an Oscar?

    It was tweeted by the writer himself. Someone posted the tweet further up thread.

    As to whether the song was written specifically for this film, I think yes. Filmsof this magnitude are usually in pre-production for at least a year, and then filming and post production takes another year.

  526. It IS about the music, isn’t it? But a lot of AL’s fans admire him as a person, also. What I see in these pictures is a man socializing with his loved one’s FAMILY. That’s serious….and nice.

  527. Dear austinmidwife – consider yourself lucky you’re blissfully ignorant. Not terrible photos – but minus the “blue smoke and mirrors.” As I noted previously, Adam forgot the “blue.” And I can’t remember, thankfully, what page they were on. Will not go back myself either. Like my illusions (delusions) —- whatever. Life’s hard enough.

  528. (Another P.S. ‘“ Mentioned previously that I saw the 2012 ad tonight (twice) with ad saying 2012 scene to be shown on 10/1. This is the first time in a month I’ve looked at TV ‘“ has this ad been shown before tonight (Monday).? Thanks.

    Yes, the teaser ads for the 2 minute TV ad started this weekend. But I can’t ever remember seeing an ad for an ad before. Pre-releases, online promos, interviews, lots of other promotions and kinds of ads, but an ad campaign for an ad compaign is a first for me.

  529. Thanks CindyM.

    So Natasha died in July 2008. If she has co-writing credit on the song, I really do think there may be a problem with its Oscar eligibility.

  530. Planet Fierce has all of those pics posted up. Don’t know what the big deal is. Looks like he’s RELAXING with family in a place where tank tops are about the only truly comfortable shirt one can wear without being naked.

    On to the MUSIC….when is it coming? How long must we wait? Sigh……My flaming headdress is sputtering out and needs an Adam fire to light it back up.

  531. Please we’ve had enough drama with the casual pictures of them in New orleans

    Yes, that ´s why I want to look at something else, Adam was supposed to be wearing a nice black shirt, not the top tank.
    Maybe we have just imagined those ugly pics. A delusion for the lack of music ? A nightmare?
    It is 7 am and I have not gone to bed yet. Whose to blame for that? Drake for sure.

  532. Wait a minute. Why are people blaming Drake for Adam’s fugly facial hair? That does not seem fair at all.

  533. Is the roadblock only going to appear on comcast networks? I’ve got satellite, will the roadblock not be on my television?

  534. he’s RELAXING with family in a place where tank tops are about the only truly comfortable shirt one can wear without being naked.

    Well I hate the tank soooo much that I would prefer to see him naked. ;-)

  535. CindyM: Is the roadblock only going to appear on comcast networks? I’ve got satellite, will the roadblock not be on my television?

    It’s everywhere — and I mean everywhere. The only Comcast exclusive is the OnDemand extra 5 minutes in HD — that will also be online but not the same quallity.

  536. Ferras is off to work with Aimee on their song for Adam:

    Headin to nashville tom morn to write with the fabulous @aimeemayo for a few days. My first nashville writing trip! Wish me luck!Go country!5:22 PM Sep 26th from TwitterBerry
    OhFerras (Ferras AlQaisi)

    How do we know they are working on Adam ´s song?

  537. As to whether the song was written specifically for this film, I think yes. Filmsof this magnitude are usually in pre-production for at least a year, and then filming and post production takes another year.

    Well, music is composed for a film almost always after filming is completed. That may not always be the case with songs, but it’s hard for me to imagine them worrying about an end-credit song before July 2008.

  538. How do we know they are working on Adam ´s song?

    I don’t think they are, I think it’s for a country singer. Hey maybe it’s Gokey.

  539. If the song was written in 2008, it could have been written for the film (given the length of pre-production, production, and post-production).

    My understanding is that in order to be Oscar-eligible, a song has to be written for the film, which is why we’ve been trying to date it. So it’s still a mystery until Johannes provides details about when it was written and what it was written for.

  540. Q3
    September 29, 2009 at 1:07 am
    CindyM: Is the roadblock only going to appear on comcast networks? I’ve got satellite, will the roadblock not be on my television?

    It’s everywhere ‘” and I mean everywhere. The only Comcast exclusive is the OnDemand extra 5 minutes in HD ‘” that will also be online but not the same quallity.

    Thanks, just debating whether I should go to my parents house who DO have comcast. My dad can’t stomach the idea of those “newfangled sateillites”. heh…he likes what he likes…old school!

  541. Well, music is composed for a film almost always after filming is complete. That may not always be the case with songs, but it’s hard for me to imagine them worrying about an end-credit song before July 2008.

    We can’t know for sure. Anyway, shouldn’t we at least hear the song before we start worrying about Oscar eligibility?

  542. I really feel sorry for Drake.
    He had the nerve to fall in love with the most desired man on the planet.
    Now everyone thinks he’s ugly and low class and contaminating Adam with his fugly, ugly, no classness.

    How dare you, Drake! Go back to your trailer where you belong!

    sheeeesh.

  543. LOL… I wonder if Ferras got to know Aimee because she read he was working with Adam and she twitter stalked him to get closer to Adam, so Ferras finally had to reply..LOL

  544. Tank tops are NEVER pretty – don’t care who the hell is wearing them – even the gorgeous Lambert. And Drake’s tank tops with suspenders! — WTH – go to Goodwill and get a $2.00 shirt – what’s that supposed to be? – the twink’s uniform? None of the gay guys I know would dress like that. Maybe Ok in a weird place like LA – but the rest of the country thinks – No class. Adam has a fan base that has a certain view of him – to be successful, he’s got to keep it. Gay has nothing to do with it – style does.

  545. No actually there is no rule that you need to be alive to win.

    No that’s not what I was saying. I was just questioning whether a song written that long ago would have been written specifically for 2012.

  546. Aimee tweeted about Ferras for Adam:

    @adamlambert so excited I feel electric. Your dream is coming true & you made mine come true. Ferras is coming to Nashville Sun. 2 write 4 U12:49 AM Sep 23rd from web in reply to adamlambert

  547. people in hot, tropical climates wear tank tops all the time, especially when relaxing with family and friends. No one thinks they are low class.

    I guess I’m not tough enough for this thread.

  548. Ugh, I knew it was only a matter of time before Drake’s truly atrocious taste started rubbing off on Adam. And in such a NASTY way.

    My only hope if that maybe this was his incognito look? To fool people? Make his bad taste boyfriend’s family feel better and fit in more with them?

    I only know Adam looked genuinely ick! for the first time I’ve seen him. Way to do Drake (knew he and those ugly Twink Tanks were trouble).

    LOL. Maybe Adam likes the look? I’m pretty sure Adam doesn’t care what people think of him. Or at least he’s worked hard not to worry about it!

    I haven’t seen all the pics… just some of the ones posted here. They just look like they’re hanging out and having fun to me. I don’t like the Elivs hair, personally, but I’m not going to rag on him for it when he wears it. I suspect he will be ever changing.

    I love New Orleans! Wish I could see it post Katrina.

  549. Got to post I’m really sorry I posted the comment my daughter made about Drake looking 70’s gay. I thought it was astute: my d is VERY conscious of fashion, and she was commenting on his clothing style.

    However, the comments above about Drake’s nose and neck make me very uncomfortable. Basically people are saying Drake is too ugly to be Adam’s boyfriend?

    After reading and hearing many (if not all) of Adam’s interviews, I think of him as being intelligent and not at all shallow. If he likes Drake, then I think Drake is probably very cool. It IS possible that he likes Drake’s look, and maybe likes his personality as well??

    I remember seeing a blog entry showing an Adam performance from the Zodiac show that was more “gay”, then one from AI, and the blogger commented that eventually “both will be equally okay”. AND I remember Adam saying something along the lines of, he wants to introduce people to things they never knew they would like. (If someone remembers the exact quote, I’d love to see it.)

    I do think Adam Lambert is going to be important as a social phenomenon as well as a singer. Just the fact that he was out and about with Drake at the Pink concert, and people were bitching about Drake’s clothes, rather than him being OUT WITH HIS BOYFRIEND is huge.

    Sorry if I was preachy, but was shocked when I saw my d quoted. The power of the internet….

  550. Example – have that new vid (Paparazzi) downloaded and was going to watch it – now I won’t. Keep thinking of that wifebeater shirt,

  551. Slow news day so a little tidbit regarding the co-writers of “Time for Miracles.” I don’t know if this has already been mentioned but Alain Johannes and his late wife, Natasha, have a connection to Brian May. They co-wrote the song “Someone To Die For” which is on the Spider-man 2 soundtrack and Brian May played the guitar.

    You can search for Jimmy Gnecco (with Brian May)

  552. Tank tops are NEVER pretty ‘“ don’t care who the hell is wearing