Adam Lambert: What About the Music?

I’m hearing there’s very little talk about Adam Lambert’s upcoming album mixed into the revelations about his experiences with sex, drugs, rock and roll in his upcoming Rolling Stone cover story.

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But, for those interested in the music, RS posted a behind-the-scenes video on their website that has Adam, who recently signed with 19 and RCA records, talking at length about his musical sensibility.

  • I have a hard time picking a favorite style of music “I like rock bands I like electronic stuff, I like dance stuff, I like pop stuff, I like funk. I could probably see myself doing a little bit of everything–a rock/pop sound with really strong hooks, with kind of like glam edge to it, and all lot of modern production–dancey electronic type of treatment on everything, make it sound really current and futuristic. It’s really important to get a song that really sticks with people, that people either love to dance to or they love to sing along to…it’s just getting it into people’s minds I think is the hardest part.”
  • About the album, “We’re working on it right now, we kinda just started, we’re at the drawing board, we’re trying to figure out what kind of sound we want, what kind of producers we want to work with, right now it’s just all ideas, nothings actually started yet, it’s really exciting because anything could happen.”
  • I’m really just hoping for some longevity, “I hope that this album we put out is something a little different, something that people are both surprised by, but at the same time, what they want from me, I hope. I took a lot of chances on the show, and I went through a variety of styles, so I’m hoping that the record kind of reflects the journey I took on Idol,
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176 Comments

  1. I’m not that surprised there isn’t much music talk. Because, well, first of all – he hasn’t actually released any music. And we’ve basically heard the same 3 or 4 quotes from him (and Kris) regarding their future albums. If this article was written 2 months from now or even around the time of his album drop, we’d probably get more music info.

    Plus, I think Rolling Stone is big on ‘life-style’ articles that focus on what made the artist what he/she is today.

    I know that Lady Gaga’s article focused heavily on her past and her finely crafted image. I learned a lot more about her than I did her music.

  2. THIS is what made me happiest: that he is VERY focused on his musical career, that he is very humbled about making the cover and the interest in him, and that he doesn’t even know how well his record will do. :) I wish there were more of this in Rolling Stone (seems there isn’t), but he is doing the 20/20 interview on Friday night, so maybe there will be more of a focus at that time. I also agree; there isn’t any new music to discuss (Mad World? No Boundaries? *zzz*) and no tour to talk about either. In addition, regarding RS, 1) some of these quotes have been taken out of context, and 2) he has gotten all of these issues out of the way, so he can just focus on music now. He has never been afraid of taking chances, clearly, but now that he has the platform he has tried to achieve for so long, the sky’s the limit.

  3. Yay for Music Talk…
    Adam has done a lot to deserve some chat about his music – it’s just his personality and the whole issue on his sexuality that seems to overshadow his artistic abilities and talents. I can understand why he didn’t throw the ‘i’m gay” at people’s faces during the competition but gave a plenty of obvious hints.

    I really look forward to what he has to put out as I am rarely invested in any artist as I am in Adam. I have no idea what I am attracted to and I seriously know zip about the lives other singers that I listen to.

  4. We have already heard what he hopes to do, know he has started writing….what else can he tell us??

    I can’t wait to read the whole article – what we have so far is wonderful…

  5. It’s kinda hard to talk about an album that’s just in the planning stages. I just hope it lives up to all of his hopes for it — personally, I’d prefer it if it wasn’t being rushed for a November release date. I think all of us could wait a few more months to hear it. He has the potential to produce something that transcends the usual pop pablum, but with his hectic tour schedule I’m fearful he won’t be able to devote enough time to produce a really top-notch product.

  6. Music? You mean his career will have anything to do with music?

    Right now it seems to be about celebrity. It’s kind of weird that being gay is the most saleable thing about him. Eventually, they’ll get around to the music. I hope people aren’t completely sick of him by then. Anyway, I’m sure the tour will be fun. Especially, if he buys into all the publicity and the diva really comes out full force.

    I’ll bet anything he wishes he could skip the tour and just be the superstar he probably thinks he is already. Imagine having to spend the summer touring with all those nobodies.

  7. The RS cover article is not about Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sexuality or his personal at all. He has not even recorded his first album, yet he is on the cover of Rolling Stone . It seems that the decision for Adam to be in RS was done before the finale. Thus his career plans was already mapped out by 19E.

    This article is about those in the music and entertainment business announcing to us all , that this is the One they foresee as the next worldwide Star.

    Some will heave a sigh of relief thanking that he was not given the title American Idol. That title is reserved for those who have a chance to be canonized and proclaimed saint of middle America. Narrow escape from such a shady one.

    But the rest of the world , will gleefully enjoy this article. That for once a young kid had the guts to be honest about himself , his life, and face millions and tell them , here I am take me and my music or buy the other guys’ album. Gutsy and deserving of respect.

    At least he did not say that Yes I smoked pot but did not inhale !
    Remember that politician , America. This kid deserves respect.

    And I think the Today show commentary is right- it looks like that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management team is now putting everything out right now so then he can proceed with his music . After this , there is nothing much else to talk about but his music.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiIy4NqsQac

  8. I guess just saying you were gay isn’t as rewarding as saving the juicy stuff for Rolling Stone. He’s no dope.

  9. None of the “music talk” seems to be about his singing at all, nor about lyrics or types of songs. Just the production style and overall sound. It actually sounds like he wants to make a dance album, like Madonna or Britney. Whatever.

    I respect his voice a LOT, but HATE that type of music. Honestly he has too much vocal talent to go that route IMO.

  10. I can’t wait for Adam’s music. I have a feeling it’s going to be a huge “experience”. He can do anything with that voice and I’m looking forward to videos – he’s so visual.

    With Adam it’s sort of about HIM as a whole. It’s pretty flattering for him that people are genuinely interested and want to know everything about him.

  11. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not that surprised there isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t much music talk. Because, well, first of all – he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t actually released any music. And weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve basically heard the same 3 or 4 quotes from him (and Kris) regarding their future albums. If this article was written 2 months from now or even around the time of his album drop, weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d probably get more music info.

    Plus, I think Rolling Stone is big on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹life-styleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ articles that focus on what made the artist what he/she is today.

    Yes I’m not surprised there isn’t more about the music either as it must all be in planning stage .. it would be very different if he’d recorded some of it and the track listing and promotion of it had all been sorted. It’s very difficult to talk about an album that isn’t actually there yet … all he can talk about is what he would like to do which is what he does talk about in the article.

    I don’t recall Clay’s RS article talking about his music either .. from what I remember it was about his upbringing and his parent’s broken marriage.

  12. Thank you for starting this thread MJ.

    First and foremost, i am a fan of Adam because of his VOICE. And his ARTISTRY. Yeah he walks, talks, and acts cool as shit, but you can do those things and not be talented. I was enthralled with adam’s voice from the moment MJ had his pre-idol videos up on her site. And i was floored that Idol was going to get somebody of his caliber.

    Having said that, I have never been this excited about someone releasing their debut album. I know its unfair to adam, but my hopes are through the roof for his album. I want it to be the only album people talk about for the year. I want it to win every grammy it will be up for. And i want it to please the contemporary radio stations enough to have his first 4 singles in regular circulation, while still having some Freddie/Aerosmith-like tracks on it that serve no relevance to today’s music. I want Mad World-like songs that i will never get tired of listening to when im in the mood for a hypnotizing ballad. And i want a broadway tune that will knock people’s socks off and be like HOLY S*** THIS IS THE SAME GUY?!?!?!

    If anyone can accomplish this, it’s Adam. And i wish him the best. And i hope he gets a lot of say for what goes on his album. Good luck buddy.

  13. I’m so glad a few of us are interested in the music too! I think the man is gorgeous, but I wouldn’t buy his songs if I wasn’t a fan of his singing/performing. I’m glad RCA will handle his marketing and distribution; it’s the best fit of the available options. I do think he will be even bigger – huge – outside the US. I’m looking forward to the music… I have a feeling it’s going to be OOT ^10 !!!

    jpfan, you are (of course) entitled to your opinion, but I hope you’re wrong. I haven’t heard Adam say anything but positive stuff about the upcoming tour. I know there are reports of demanding, “it’s going to his head” behavior but there are also reports of Adam being grounded, down to earth, etc. I’m of the opinion that some of the reports are somewhat overblown – but it’s just my opinion.

  14. Enough of the music talk –

    Is Adam gay? Just kidding.

    Adam talking about music is exactly how I feel about music, which I love! I too love so many different genres of music: rock, pop, dance, hip-hop, r&b, heck, even classical, opera, (almost anything but modern country – not a fan of that).

    Some might say it will lead to an “unfocused” album (throwing in everything but the kitchen sink) but I’m definitely hearing a cohesive sound to what he’s going for, and I think it totally works with how music has evolved today. Listen to any Top 40 station, and many of the top songs are really a combination of all sorts of sounds and styles (hip-hop with a bit of rock, r&b, dance, pop, etc.)

    And he definitely understands the commercial reality – it all starts with a catchy song – it’s gotta get people happy and psyched. I’m really looking forward to what he puts out.

    But really, is he gay? I gotta know.

  15. I’m hearing RCA is investing a lot of money in him. (I hear more about Adam rumors from Allison’s boards – where supposed insiders leak info. LOL)

    The more I learn about Adam as a person, the more interested I am in his music. The fact that Adam just now has self confidence. The fact that his life has been a struggle for confidence, one of exploration, one of trying things, one of trying to figure out life, love, religion. The new confidence to be bluntly honest. All of that can make incredible music. I think he makes for much more interesting artist now.

  16. Adams musical gift is the MOST saleable thing about him, it is what got him recognized in the first place. The “gay” thing came after – not the chicken before the egg, at all. Publicity is publicity and if it helps get Adam out there for us to enjoy (his music) then more power to him and yay for us

    I remember at about this time last year that, well, not gay or anything of course, but comments like Jason will never be signed by a major label were said by the same people and look at Jason now, so, you just never know. I sure dont either but I feel it about Adam, so sure, the same way I did about Jason last year. LOL – now the two of them are like night and day but I love them both

  17. Go Adam! Finally, people should stop wondering about your sexuality (as if it matters to me). Adam showed his sexuality via photos of him kissing a man, holding hand with drake but there are people who still want their pound of flesh. They still want him to say it. (Personally, i wanted him to just show it rather than say but hey what every Adam wants i am fine with it.)

    Now its out SO WHAT! I still believe in him and love him and will continue to support him. He is still a hottie!! Now that it is officially out, let’s see if America will react and proved that it is indeed a homophobic nation. (Personally, i hope not but reading some other entries online does point to that direction.)à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¨

    You can now also concentrate on your album. It would be hard to Adam to discuss details expecially if everything is on a planning stage. I am sure that we will hear more in the next days and months. I have complete in Adam. I also salute you Adam. Just concentrate on your music and you will do well. You fans will continue to love you and support you. GO GLAMBERT!!!

    LOVE YAH!!

  18. Uhh, finally I’m back. Just got in from the airport, took a shower, put on my jammies and just in time for a new thread.

    His music…? I think he’ll make dance music that is electronic/pop worthy of Angel (a gay club in london where Madonna likes to preview her music and Lady Gaga has performed) , glam-rock in the vein of Muse, and a rock pop sound similar to that of kean. Ofcourse I’m just guessing here, or perhaps indulging in a little wishful thinking.

    I hope it’s great whatever it is.

  19. ah. . . er. . . the music thread had 18 comments. The gay thread has 233. I think the people have spoken.

  20. I just know that I love all the songs that I have heard Adam sing since his pre-AI times. I like the way he sings the different genres, and I hope his album will reflect them all.
    I am anxious to buy his album and I have already booked it in Amazon. A pity I am too far away to go to the AI concerts (I would go only for him).

  21. Suzanne
    Jun 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    ah. . . er. . . the music thread had 18 comments. The gay thread has 233. I think the people have spoken.

    Give it a chance, we just started this thread. Also it’s a bit difficult to speak intelligently about something we know nothing about. I do believe the man has to make original music before we can talk about it. Or at the very least tell us who’s writing and producing. Until then what’s to talk about aside from his amazing multi-genre voice?

    Also, the 233 comment thread is the article thread. It is so much more than just a gay discussion. It’s about the hotness of the cover. LOL!

  22. Too bad his press release came today. It should get more attention. It was very strong.

    “à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“There are no longer any rules in terms of where the worldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s next superstars may come from,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  says Barry Weiss, Chairman & CEO RCA/JIVE Label Group. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“We are thrilled to be getting involved with Adam Lambert as we all at RCA Records believe he is one of those rare, future global starsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

    Adam didn’t lose his virginity until he was 21. Doesn’t sound like he’s too wild to me. He had a lot to figure out in life, and did live in Hollywood. Why would it surprise anyone that he tried drugs? Roger W was with him in the interview. RCA would not be investing so heavily in someone who is a druggie. Adam said he just got self confidence. That he couldn’t have done this before now. He’s honest. He’s made mistake. But it sounds like he has it together now.

  23. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not that surprised there isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t much music talk. Because, well, first of all – he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t actually released any music. And weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve basically heard the same 3 or 4 quotes from him (and Kris) regarding their future albums.

    Exactly! lol Right now, they are being disected so that we can find out more about them as people. Their backstories. etc. Kris talked about his missionary trips, and Adam is talking about growing up.

    Plus, I think Rolling Stone is big on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹life-styleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ articles that focus on what made the artist what he/she is today.

    Yup. I remember the big article they did on Obama and other political figures. They do more culture/life style type articles with some music mixed within there.

  24. Adam has been singing for years….10 in fact in LA. Based on what we have been able to find on You Tube he already has a huge repertoire of music, some original and some covers. Now he finally has what he really wanted, a record label and gets to work with indurstry insiders.

    I know Adam has the voice…now I get to find out if he and his “peep” will be able to find the songs that work that voice. And to be really honest, all he needs is one or two great tracks on his album for people to come back for more, especially in the age of downloading single songs.

    I am not a fan of “current” pop 40 music. But it is what is hot and it is what sells. If I could blow up every auto-tuner and electronic music machine (for want of a better term) I would, but it seems to be what others want and what they listen to. I’ll go along with the flow, and hopefully something will move me. But then, Adam shouldn’t be concerned with what I want, he should be concerned with what type of music will get him the most recognition. And I think the boy is smart and knows enough to surround himself with the best.

    Also, I have NEVER heard or read anything that Adam disrespects AI, the tour, or other AI contestants (even though there are rumors that he may have an issue or two). I think he is looking forward to the tour and seeing who pays money to come out and listen to him.

  25. We have already heard what he hopes to do, know he has started writingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.what else can he tell us??

    Right now they are just in talks about the direction they want to take. I think thats why we keep hearing the same 3-4 quotes from him and Kris as well. Right now its just ideas and no substance. He did just get signed officially today.

  26. Also, the 233 comment thread is the article thread. It is so much more than just a gay discussion. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about the hotness of the cover. LOL!

    I was about to say. Most of the comments in that thread are about how great that cover is rather than the “oh my he’s gay” stuff. lol

  27. I’m sure we’ll hear more about his music as he gets further into the process. I for one, CAN NOT wait. It was his voice and passion that turned me into a fan.

    I’m not really thinking that Adam sees himself as some huge star-yes, I think he likes being the center of attention, but he always gave credit to the Idol band, thanked the mentors, etc. But, YMMV. As far as the drug use, most of my friends & relatives etc have fave bands that admit to drug use. I’m not thinking he actively uses anymore so I’m not seeing it as a big deal. Now, if he comes out in a family orientated forum, and says “drugs are cool!”, I might have an issue.

  28. I hope he includes ROF in his album. This is one of my favorites. I have never liked country music (except Bob Dylan ´s). I had never heard the original version by JC, and when I listened to it…sorry, I did not like it. Adam made that song listenable, sexy, hot, inspiring.

  29. can someone have “inside” information tell us more about his management team??i am dying to know :help_tb:

  30. In other words, I think Adam may have just damaged himself. And Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be very surprised if 19 isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t trying to suppress this article.

    Actually, I’m sure they encouraged it. I wont’ judge the article since I haven’t read it yet, but there is no negative with it. As far as his experimental drug use, that is nothing new to the entertainment industry, political figures, or to the world in itself. In fact, from the “quote” released, Adam doesn’t advocate the use of cocaine. A few outlets will blow certain parts out of proportion until the actual article comes, out but really…….

    Adam is not safe (THANK GOD!!). I love his cander and honesty, and his ability to admit he makes mistakes. Its so…well… human……

  31. The sad part is I’m already sick of Adam as a celebrity so Adam as a musician better kick some ass on his album. I’m not even sure if he will be able to live up to the hype. And for it’s worth, I’m not a Kris or Gokey fan, nor am I closed minded and I don’t give a crap about what he did or didn’t reveal in Rolling Stone.

    For the most part when it comes to music I don’t care one way or another about the personal lives of those I listen to, but I do tend to get annoyed by the Britney’s and etc. of the world who let their personal stuff overshadow everything else. I do tend to get annoyed by those who seem to value being a celebrity and making headlines more so than actually attempting to make good music. I’m not saying that is Adam, or that this is even Adam’s fault right now, but enough already.

  32. In other words, I think Adam may have just damaged himself. And Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be very surprised if 19 isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t trying to suppress this article.

    Adam WILL NOT be marketed to the usual AI viewers who are notorious for watching AI and then totally forgetting the singers they supported for 3 months. If the 20 million AI viewers can’t buy more than a million albums from last year’s winner…why would they be the focus of any marketing by 19.

    19 is realistic..they aren’t some “stick in the mud” family friendly “Disney” knock-off organization. My gosh, look at the Guest Artists they focused on this year. I bet they are in seventh heaven that they have found an artist, warts and all, to promote. And, people need to take a look at the other Artists recording for 19…Adam is milk toast and mild compared to a lot of the people they stable. Geesh!

  33. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really important to get a song that really sticks with people, that people either love to dance to or they love to sing along toà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just getting it into peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s minds I think is the hardest part.

    I’m glad he and that people that he is working with know this. I would be worried if he talked about artistry or changing people’s live through music. I’ve come to the conclusion that these 2 phenomenons cannot happen on the debut album of an idol. So he better makes some catchy tunes!

  34. Great post Animated. I agree with all of it. Very well put and so so true.

  35. Wait it’s about Adam being Gay? thats all? Jeeze I thought it would be about what kind of hair product he uses.

  36. In other words, I think Adam may have just damaged himself. And Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be very surprised if 19 isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t trying to suppress this article.

    Ummm, I don’t think so. Here’s my proof:

    Decades before Sen. Barack Obama was a leading candidate for the presidency, he was a lot like many University of Florida students: young, intelligent and curious.

    That college-aged curiosity led him to use alcohol, marijuana and cocaine, decisions that have now become points of contention in his campaign.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/12/politics/uwire/main3823725.shtml

    He still became president… Thank god. :smile_wp:

  37. I am super excited for Adams music to start coming out. I’m really digging his influences and musical direction. I really think its going to appeal to a younger crowd…probably not so much the 40+ but who knows. I’m sure it will probably draw some backlash concidering there are quite a few older people who are into him right now, but at the same time I think he’s going to pick up a ton of new-non-idol fans (like myself).

  38. Cant wait for what the heck he comes up with. Love the video. Adam is freaking gorgeous.

  39. Tess, Hear! Hear! to everything you said.

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be ridiculous!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  adds Lambert. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Get Ready!!!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Possibly my favourite quote of the day.

  40. Since yesterday, suddenly this page, only on mjsbigblog, doesn’t load with the article at the top of the page anymore and I have to scroll way down to see it. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

  41. I’m in my mid-40s. I love Cook’s music and I love Adam’s music. My 12-year-old niece loves Archie (shock) and my sister loves Danny (a bit more of a shock). My musical interests are diverse. I have jazz music on at work (not b/c I have to but b/c I chose to). I like Jason Mraz, DMB, Jack Johnson, Gavin DeGraw. I also like Top 40 (All American Rejects, Katy Perry, Alicia Keys, Justin Timberlake). So I DO think that those of us over the age of 40, who couldn’t wait for Idol each week b/c of Adam’s choices, will be as invested in his career as anyone else will.

    BTW, my favorite performances were ACIGC, RoF, and FG (not NB, heh). Oh, and SR with Allison, too. Those are rather diverse songs, and that’s the kind of album we will see him put out. It will be very eclectic, and he certainly can do that.

    19 trusts in him or would have cut ties. They know what he is doing and man, is this good press for TPTB (he is trending #2 on Twitter).

  42. “Since yesterday, suddenly this page, only on mjsbigblog, doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t load with the article at the top of the page anymore and I have to scroll way down to see it. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?”

    It was happening to me yesterday, not today, though. However, I cannot get the B-Quote button to work :-(

  43. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I like rock bands I like electronic stuff, I like dance stuff, I like pop stuff, I like funk. I could probably see myself doing a little bit of everythingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’a rock/pop sound with really strong hooks, with kind of like glam edge to it, and all lot of modern productionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’dancey electronic type of treatment on everything, make it sound really current and futuristic. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really important to get a song that really sticks with people, that people either love to dance to or they love to sing along toà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just getting it into peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s minds I think is the hardest part.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Great, so its not about being true to yourself as an artist, because you apparently don’t know what type of artist you are… “I like a little bit of everything”…

    and really what its about is getting people to love it… Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really important to get a song that really sticks with people” – no Adam whats really important is to make music that you love and shows who you are as an artist. If it sticks with people, all the better.

    ok, give me Kris any day of the week and twice on Tuesday, he knows who he is, he’ll sing what he loves. That to me is an artist. If the acclaim comes so be it, but he’s going to sing his music regardless. What Adam talks about here is what I’d more expect from Danny, someone unsure of what kind of artist he wants to be.

  44. I love Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s musicà ¯ ¼Ã…’which makes me wanna know more about him.

    And the more i know about himà ¯ ¼Ã…’I just soooooo LOVE him.

    He is HOT.more importantly.he’s HONEST and UNPR.

    cannot wait for your album!my boy!

    i know it’ll be a great hit.

    And apprantly people all think you are gonna be huge.

    haha.

  45. Here is a youtube video of the Today Show aired today about Adam and the RS cover/interview. They praise Adam for being so unprocessed and honest. They also said that now that this is all out and behind him he can begin to take the music scene by storm. Link

  46. I like the cover making video more than the RS article. Here at least he talked about his focus and excitement towards his music and new album. That’s what we are waiting for. I really puzzled for a while after reading the quotes of some answers in the RS article. Is it necessary to do it this way, to make his life like an open book for everyone to read. Forgetting about being fearless, honest, unprocessed etc., I think his answers may have already shut the doors of some people (not being AI viewers) out there, refusing even to listen to his music before deciding whether they like it or not. The world is much bigger and not everyone knows Adam from AI that he has a good voice and can sing. Anyway, Adam is a smart guy and if he made this choice, can just take it.

  47. I do not, however, know if they are ready to accept someone who openly admits to doing/ having done ecstasy and coke.

    In other words, I think Adam may have just damaged himself.

    Most people have accepted a President who admitted to doing cocaine so they’ll probably accept a singer too.

  48. I think his answers may have already shut the doors of some people (not being AI viewers)

    Well. If he crashes and burns. At least he can never say he wasn’t true to himself.

    Artists (and people in general) as fearless and different as Adam Lambert are always going to have to fight for support. At least I can respect him for just being who is and not making any apologies for it.

  49. Wow.. Adam is the 4th most trending topics on Twitter. People can’t get enough of this guy!! lol

  50. I just saw this posted over at the American Idol forums. Adam is the most talked about in the world today, according to Google. Wow. Notice Rolling Stone is #9.

    1. Adam Lambert

    2. Severe Thunderstorm

    3. Snow Leopard

    4. Sonia Sotomayor

    5. Pedro Espada

    6. Sarah Palin

    7. MacBook Pro

    8. Bret Michales

    9. Rolling Stone

    10. Red Wings

  51. Adam just has ‘it’, I don’t know what’s going on…but something big seems to be happening!

  52. Guess what? Obama condemned his past drug use. Adam does not sound like he is doing so. In fact, it sounds as if he still may use certain drugs.

    And youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re kidding yourself if you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam needs the general Idol audience to support him. You think that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s somehow going to be immune to the AI stigma that is attached to Bice, Daughtry, and Cook?

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care if some think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to have some à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“chicà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  image for being gay and using drugs. There are still large swaths of the music fans that wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t touch him with any length pole because he came from Idol.

    So he needs the kids, the tweens and teens, the moms, and the grannies to help his sales. And he may have just lost a chunk of them.

    The fact that Obama condemned it didn’t prevent people from using it against him. But I wont discuss Obama any further because it’s OT.

    About Adam, the music he produces is the bottom line. decades of shocking and scandalous behaviour by musicians has shown us that good music sells, regardless of the antics of the persons behind it. You can go back 60 years and Musicians have always led lives that are outside the main stream. They still do. The examples both current and past are endless.
    Also, non of us have read the article, how can we possibly say he advocates anything? I’ll make that judgement on Friday.

    As to the AI audience, he needs them for the tour, but if Adam’s music is such that he has to depend on AI viewers to sell, then nothing he says now or ever will give the longevity he seeks. So might as well be himself and get some cred in the process.

    I don’t know what’s going to happen to Adam’s career, I have to listen to his album to predict that. But as things stand now it’s looking awfully good.

  53. Great, so its not about being true to yourself as an artist, because you apparently donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what type of artist you areà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I like a little bit of everythingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    and really what its about is getting people to love ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really important to get a song that really sticks with peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  – no Adam whats really important is to make music that you love and shows who you are as an artist. If it sticks with people, all the better.

    ok, give me Kris any day of the week and twice on Tuesday, he knows who he is, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll sing what he loves. That to me is an artist. If the acclaim comes so be it, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to sing his music regardless. What Adam talks about here is what Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d more expect from Danny, someone unsure of what kind of artist he wants to be.

    I agree that Kris knows who he is as an artist, and that that’s great. He’s been honing his abilities and finding his way, and I too like the results and look forward to hearing his stuff.

    With Adam, though, I think two things get in the way of his having such a unified vision right now:

    First, he *can* sing literally anything, and that’s not the case with Kris or with most other artists. With a little extra retraining, Adam could most likely step onto an opera stage or any other classical-music stage and sing some repertoire that hardly five people in a generation can sing. At the same time, he can do a very credible version of Whole Lotta Love. I really think that to any music lover — who likes to *listen* to all different kinds of music — being able to do it all probably makes the musical world kind of like a candy store. You’d love to hvae one of each, because each type of music can express a different part of who you are — and you *could* conceivably sing *any* of the types.

    Second, he’s been doing musical theatre as his day job for several years now. In other words, he comes onto the stage eight times a week and sings the exact same thing, written by others, in a character that isn’t his own, and most of the time what he’s singing is the chorus parts. Again, now that he’s able to make an album of his own — and knows that he actually can physically sing *anything* — the kid-in-the-candy-store effect is heightened by this, too. Oh, my Ra, I don’t have to sing a soft-rock version of the Red-Sea parting! What do I want to do?? *Everything* else!

    I’m sure he’ll get over the kid-in-a-candy-store effect one of these days and develop more of an identity. Doubt that he’ll do it in time for album # 1. But, as somebody else mentioned upthread, I think if album #1 has just a couple of really good songs on it, in any style whatever, it’ll probably sell enough copies to buy him a chance at album #2, with RCA or with somebody else. And by then I’m sure he’ll hvae a much better grip on exactly what he wants to do with his music right now.

    That said, I expect what he wants to do with music to morph big time over the years. But most wouldn’t have expected Robert Plant to morph enough so he’d end up getting a grammy singing with Alison Krauss either.

  54. And Adam starts with the AI fan world as his base. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s considerably more family-centric than the world of music fans at large, many of whom will see Adam as carrying the AI stigma and will never give his music a chance. So ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the savviest move to alienate his springboard-audience

    Adam has started in America, but America is not the whole world. Now he is known and loved all over the world. In many countries we don ´t care about people ´s personal lives if they are talented, and Adam ´s talent is indeed out of this world.

  55. I also don’t think it’s any indication of Adam’s future success based on the fact that he’s at the top of all the searches today. It’s not exactly shocking that the guy will be a top search on the day that his Rolling Stone article leaks (or at least the tantalizing quotes). Between all the quotes flying around, it’s not exactly shocking.

    The real test will be whether Adam can keep people interested now that all this is out there and it becomes common knowledge. Can he keep people interested without the controversial headlines? Can he keep people interested as AI8 turns into a distant memory? We’ll see.

    Like said, I’m still not convinced this guy will be the rockstar people expect him to be. I’m not sure how he could possibly live up to all the hype. Don’t get me wrong in that I expect him to be successful, just not perhaps to the standard that many fans seem to have for him.

  56. Re Google

    Wow, Adam is up there with “severe thunderstorms” and Bret Michaels! He’s unstoppable! All he needs to do is get hit with a piece of stage set and he’s *platinum* fer sure. That or team up with severe thunderstorms to destroy a few trailers.

  57. Here is a youtube video of the Today Show aired today about Adam and the RS cover/interview. They praise Adam for being so unprocessed and honest. They also said that now that this is all out and behind him he can begin to take the music scene by storm.

    Thanks for the link. … I knew it’d be mushrooms, lol.

  58. If its all about the MUSIC as some fans proclaim, why would this article turn you off from buying his album/music?

    I don’t agree with everything that every artist on my ipod does or says, but I enjoy their music and obviously,bought it. If I put those limitations on my entertainment, I would be sitting in the corner twiddling my thumbs and pulling my hair out.

    I don’t want to listen to Mother Teresa and Ghandi sing. They can’t hit the high notes like Lambert.

    I think we need to see the article in its entirety. The snippets are the sensational parts. The video gives us an idea of his upcoming album. I hope we get more of that in the article. I can’t wait to hear any new music from him.

    For the record, nothing shocks me here, I love Adam’s fearlessness and how he is comfortable with himself. I use to follow rock stars like a groupie growing up and read WAY more scandalous things than this….and yes, still bought the music.
    Twice. First their LPs, now mp3s.

  59. I think that Adam probably has a pretty good idea of what he wants his album to sound like, however, putting a vision of what that is into words can be very difficult. It’s like shopping for a specific item that you can’t really describe, but you’ll know it when you see it. He has stated many times that he sees doing music that is a fusion of styles, which reminds me of listening to old Elton John albums where you would have rock, pop, electronic stuff and even jazzy stuff on the same album. I think Adam is that kind of artist — not all his music will sound alike, but I’ll bet he will have a pretty distinctive “sound.”

    Shrooms! “Magic mushrooms” used to grow close to where I went to college, so I remember hearing about them a lot back then. Not really my deal, but pretty common.

  60. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get me wrong in that I expect him to be successful, just not perhaps to the standard that many fans seem to have for him.

    I agree. I don’t think he’s going to be nearly as successful as the media and his fans think he’s going to be. Though I would have to rest my judgment until I hear his material, I think it’s going to be hard for him to even reach the album sales of David Archuleta. Given the way he’s been hyped by the media, you’d think his sales will rival Kelly, Daughtry, Carrie, or even David Cook’s. I really don’t see that happening.

    But Adam has too much talent to not be successful. Even if this whole recording artist thing doesn’t work out for him, he’ll still be a fairly attractive name on Broadway. This guy is set. He’ll have a career any way you slice it.

    RE: Coming out and Drug Use…

    I think both factors will hurt him a bit. I’m not exactly sure how much “a bit” is, but realistically it’s not going to exactly help him. Unfortunately most of America have fairly conservative mindsets in general. While I’m sure he has gained some fans today, I do think he has lost even more. It’s a shame that’s how some people operate, but it is what it is.

    ETA: I forgot to add that I applaud Adam for being who he is, no matter what the response from the public may be. That’s something I really respect about him.

  61. I think you’d be hard-pressed to find any musicians who haven’t admitted to some kind of drug use, past or present. Amy Winehouse is a train wreck, Elton John is a recovery success story. They both sell albums.

  62. Ok this made me very sad!

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1613535/20090609/story.jhtm


    You already knew Lambert was one of the most unconventional “Idol” finalists ever, but in the wide-ranging story, the 27-year-old San Diego native opens up about his childhood à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 
    he’s Jewish, but never got a bar mitzvah and hated Hebrew school because he got a bloody nose on the first day__

  63. Here are some more quotes from the NY Post. This is from the NY Post. Adam also likes Zac Efron. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m seeing a pattern here. lol Article Link

    His dream Burning Man buddy:
    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m trying to get Zac Efron to come to Burning Man. He says he really wants to go!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idol:à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 
    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I saw what David Cook did last year, and it was cool. He thought, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹I have to sing something everybody knows, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m going to make it work for me and not give a f*** about the theme.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ It is so pageant. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard for people like Allison [Iraheta], who wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand there and smile, say when they want her to say. I was on my best behavior, but it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fake: That really was my best self.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Life post-à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Idol:à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 
    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Everyone is so hung up on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Are you pop?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Are you rock?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Um, does this song make you want to dance, or have sex, or remind you of something?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not that deep. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m trying to be a singer, not a civil rights leader. Being a rock star is just playing. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Halloween, make believe. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe I get to play dress-up for a living now!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

  64. And while he’s diplomatic about it, Lambert makes it clear that his relationship with third-place finisher, Milwaukee worship leader Danny Gokey, was not quite as easy. Lambert said the two discussed religion a few times and “Danny is by the book, and the book is The Word,” he explained. “And I respect that. Just don’t try to push it on me and we’re cool.”

  65. I think both factors will hurt him a bit. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not exactly sure how much à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a bità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is, but realistically ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not going to exactly help him. Unfortunately most of America have fairly conservative mindsets in general. While Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he has gained some fans today, I do think he has lost even more. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a shame thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s how some people operate, but it is what it is.

    You know, I’m just not sure that most of America is on the conservative side these days, and I’m especially not sure when it comes to musical tastes. I don’t get the impression that even people I know to be pretty conservative apply their own behavior standards to people when they’re deciding what movies or plays to see or what music to buy.

    Take Christian music sales — It doesn’t sell anywhere near what you’d think it would, given the numbers of people who attend the more conservative churches. And I just don’t believe that none of those people are actually listening to any music. Ergo, they must be listening to stuff by regular musicians — and when it comes to your average musician, as with any artist there’s usually a certain amount of boundary-busting going on. Many make Adam look like pretty tame, and did, way back in the 1910s and 20s, when modern American popular music was kind of being invented.

  66. If its all about the MUSIC as some fans proclaim, why would this article turn you off from buying his album/music?

    Not sure who this is aimed at, but I’ll take a crack at it. For starters, I’m not into electronica, or however Adam is describing his direction for the album, so likely I wouldn’t be interested anyway. But if he were putting out something I was into musically, sure I’ll buy it.

    What turns me off though are singers who are more into the celebrity aspect of fame than the actual music aspect. If I feel like Adam is out there more to play celebrity and say controversial things while standing on red carpets and getting his picture taken than to actually make music, it will be a turn off. It wouldn’t stop me from buying his music if I liked his music nor am I saying that Adam is as I described, but I have a bit of a wait and see attitude with him though.

    I understand in some regards the Rolling Stone article was necessary to clear up a few things out there. That’s fine. More power to Adam for knowing who he is and etc. I’m of the mindset do what you want to do, but I just don’t want to hear about it all the time. It’s not that I’m closed minded as I don’t care what my singers and musicians do in their off time. I don’t care to research any of their personal lives and as they weren’t on AI nor are on the cover of magazines like Rolling Stone, I don’t have to hear about it either.

  67. brie200
    Jun 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Like said, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m still not convinced this guy will be the rockstar people expect him to be. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure how he could possibly live up to all the hype. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get me wrong in that I expect him to be successful, just not perhaps to the standard that many fans seem to have for him.

    Yes.
    Remember, he was in the LA music scene for 10 years and never got signed anywhere, let alone had a record recorded or released. Even Kara was signed twice and dropped twice, without releasing an album either time.

    And his talent was there all along; there apparently weren’t any music execs or producers who saw him as commercially viable. He will be successful, probably, but the hype that he will be (or already is) THE BIGGEST STAR IN THE WORLD is ridiculous.

  68. A lot of conservatives are baby boomers too. I think most people have tried drugs in their life. Obama and Bush were Presidents. They had multiple opportunities to voice their opinions. This is one interview. Adam is describing his life journey – the good with the bad. One that he just now, at 27, found self-confidence. There is a lot more to say I’m sure. His life has been a long journey. He was interviewed for hours. The writer made the “story”. I would think people understand that.

    I like the expanded quote about music and being a gay spokesman. It puts that statement in context. This is a wide ranging article. I want to know who his management is – especially with all the rumors going on right now.

  69. You know, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just not sure that most of America is on the conservative side these days, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m especially not sure when it comes to musical tastes.

    When I say conservative, I don’t necessarily just mean Christians (which is why I said “conservative mindset.” There are many people and families out there who aren’t Christians yet are still turned off by somebody who is a little different. I don’t want to get too political here, but the Prop 8 ruling in California really opened by eyes to how conservative this country still is, no matter how much the times are changing. Adam coming out saying that he’s gay and previously did drugs will lead to these same people, along with even some people with liberal mindsets, to make preconceived judgments about him.

    Like I said, we don’t know how it will effect his success in the coming year, but I don’t think it will help him.

  70. NewAIFan:

    hear you, and wonder about Adam not really having a clear idea what style his record will be, and what his signature music is.

    there’s no crime in that, of course. But his challenge is to find a musical focus, both because there’s so much categorizing on radio and record these days, and because you can turn out a hodgepodgey first record if you get blinded by too many possibilities (and stymied by the very quick turn-around time demanded of these AI spin-offs).

    I believe that Kris has it more together, simply because he’s: a) made a record before; b) is committed to a certain sound already; and c) has the arrangement skills to (hopefully) beat back the influence of too many producers, co-writers etc. trying to muddy up his crisp, clean sound.

    That may or may not translate into a successful commercial venture, I realize. And I think Adam has so many fans excited about him and willing to risk buying that first disc of his.

    But one of the problems of the show’s impact is thatmany people who loved you want to hear what they heard on TV, more or less, and are very disappointed when they don’t. We know Adam is a sharp cookie, but this stuff is such a tightwire act…

  71. umm no one said he is the biggest star in the world…

    what they did say is that hes going to be marketed globally instead of just in the u.s….he has star POTENTIAL, but that doesnt mean much…he is going to do music that will sell today, its not going to please some people, but it will please others. musical tastes are different for everyone. he was about to get a record contract right before idol, but luckily turned it down because it wasnt right. !9 is putting alot of money into ADAM to see if they can make him work. What the future holds, who knows? Selling records isnt that easy this day and age especially when almost all of the people i know go to limewire to download free music. but he has the POTENTIAL to do very well becuz its the tours and concerts that gives artists their paychecks, they barely get anything in sales.

  72. Remember, he was in the LA music scene for 10 years and never got signed anywhere, let alone had a record recorded or released.

    You do realize you just described every single American Idol contestant, including Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson in that statment don’t you?

  73. You do realize you just described every single American Idol contestant, including Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson in that statment donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you?

    Kelly Clarkson was only 19 when she tried out for Idol, and I know Carrie was barely in her 20’s.

    But your point is still a good one.

  74. hear you, and wonder about Adam not really having a clear idea what style his record will be, and what his signature music is.

    Adam’s answer to his critics regarding this exact issue is spot on and sooo true. Another reason I love this guy.

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Everyone is so hung up on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Are you pop?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Are you rock?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Um, does this song make you want to dance, or have sex, or remind you of something?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not that deep. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m trying to be a singer, not a civil rights leader. Being a rock star is just playing. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Halloween, make believe. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe I get to play dress-up for a living now!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

  75. Regarding Adam’s album style – maybe I live too much in the “itunes” world, but I don’t even really buy albums anymore. I buy singles – I buy the one or two songs that I love (or just really like) and want to hear again and again. I get very bored with most albums (even from my fav artists) – the songs are all the same, or there a couple winners mixed in with a lot of losers, etc.

    So I for one love the more hodge-podge approach to music that Adam seems to prefer. I understand you need some cohesive sound, so people know what to expect, but since so many people just buy singles now adays, or buy the track they heard on the radio, maybe the cohesive sound isn’t quite as important as it once was. JMO.

  76. It amuses how people are generally predicting the demise of his career because of this article or his perceived lifestyle. All this before the man has even sung a note of original material.

    If he comes out with an album full of zero gravity’s, battlefields, or No boundaries, then yes I expect his sales will suck. I for one, as a die hard Adam fan will not buy an album like that. If his music. on the other hand, is good, edgy shows his signature vocals then I will buy, as will I suspect a whole lot of other people.

    By the Fall, most people (the general public) won’t remember the minutiae of this article. Hell. I hardly remember the Lady Gaga article and I bought it. People, apart from die hard glamberts or die hard hatemberts, will buy or not buy based on the music alone. It really is in my view that simple.

  77. It amuses how people are generally predicting the demise of his career because of this article or his perceived lifestyle. All this before the man has even sung a note of original material.

    It amuses me how its pretty much the same people. lol How much do you want to bet some of these people predicting his demise will be the first in line to buy the RS article this week to see/read the entire thing? lol

  78. The two bands that Adam Mentions as his favorites are pretty interesting.

    Thievery Corporation is a Washington, DC based producer-DJ duo that does “world music” techno with Latin, African, Indian, and hip hop beats and singers. Really interesting stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04bg9IC9N6w

    The other, Goldfrapp is a British electronic music duo that does ambient and dance music:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEzPgXOaHg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2VktozqkSc

  79. So ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the savviest move to alienate his springboard-audience.

    What springboard audience? Obviously AI fans deserted Adam when it came down to the final vote. They LOVED his music and his performances and kept him in week after week to see what he would do next but in the end they “chose” the typical AI guy to crown. (and nothing negative towards Kris because I love the guy and his music).

    So I don’t really think there is much of an audience to alienate because many AI fans have been very vocal in saying that they believe Adam lost by millions and millions of votes.

    So now Adam is out in the real world and working on getting name recognition so that people will research him (just like us AI fans did) and hopefully they will try and find his AI performances and his YouTube videos so that they can see if they want to follow him when his album comes out.

    Also, I don’t really understand when people talk about a cohesive, all the same genre albums. Why would I want to purchase 12 or 14 songs that all sound alike. That was my big turn off from the freshman albums of earlier Idols.

  80. Here is the deal. After High School, Adam decided to move to LA and try to make it in show business. Show business is hard. He toured in Hair, he lived in the strangeness of Hollywood. I am not suprised he would have had exposure to drugs being in the theater and band life. I was in a few bands…so I know they are there. It is not like he is a Betty Ford Clinic candidate.

    I admire his honesty. I think his funny sarcasm was taken a bit too literally by the RS writer. However, it is all good. I hope he does well. I look forward to his work.

  81. Just curious, but has Daughtry or/and David Cook graced the cover of RS?

    I am a concerned that the type of music he envisions is just not going to fly with America. Maybe it will work in Europe, but I just dont think the funk/dance/electronic stuff is gonna work in the States. I am looking forward to what he ends up creating and wish him well. Cover shot is awesome, cant wait to see the other pictures inside and read the complete article.

  82. I totally agree with Tess. The American Idol fanbase isn’t a platform for Adam Lambert. They voted, by all indications, overwhelmingly for the other guy. Clearly Lambert is “too much” for the American Idol audience. He’s smart to move on.

  83. What turns me off though are singers who are more into the celebrity aspect of fame than the actual music aspect. If I feel like Adam is out there more to play celebrity and say controversial things while standing on red carpets and getting his picture taken than to actually make music, it will be a turn off.

    There’s a lot more drama in him than song hits. His popularity in some quarters has always had more to do with who he is than to how he sounds. Hence RS.

  84. thanks for the Goldfrapp video, Sun! Like that a lot.

    I’m certainly not predicting the demise of Adam’s career. His career as a recording artist hasn’t started! I’m just saying it’s tough to figure out how to proceed in this current musical sphere, especially for someone who is “supposed” to sell gazillions.

    And yeah, it’s important to remember that a lot of people don’t even buy whole albums anymore. If there are enough good songs on one, I think they will. But it’s one of those mixed-blessings that has come with downloading: you sell a bunch of single cuts, but not necessarily the whole schmear.

  85. GeminiDolly:

    I don’t think the US market is Lambert’s highest priority. Sure, he would love to do well here, but he’s got a bigger opportunity and it is very clear from today’s 19Recording press release that they intend to target the world market.

  86. “”I just dont think the funk/dance/electronic stuff is gonna work in the States…””

    Ever heard of Lady Gaga, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, Goldfrapp…..etc?

  87. It amuses how people are generally predicting the demise of his career because of this article or his perceived lifestyle.

    How do you package Adam’s theatricality? Not on a cd certainly.

  88. When I say conservative, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t necessarily just mean Christians (which is why I said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“conservative mindset.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  There are many people and families out there who arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Christians yet are still turned off by somebody who is a little different. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to get too political here, but the Prop 8 ruling in California really opened by eyes to how conservative this country still is, no matter how much the times are changing.

    Yeah, I get it! And I do see your point! still don’t know that you’re right, though. I don’t know that much of the voting population actually turned out to vote on Prop 8, for one thing (never does to vote for anything, actually!). I know a couple of Californians who didn’t bother to vote that day and who are kicking themselves, actually.

    And while we have that example, we also have the examples of other states — Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, none of which are exactly considered to have much in common with Hollywood or the Great White Way or anthing — go in quite the opposite direction.

    Seems to me that the jury’s out on how conservative we are.

    On the other hand, I don’t think that matters to Adam Lambert. I think I remember that he told his mother, when she suggested he might dial it back on the show, that if he won by not being himself, then he wouldn’t have won anything. And I would bet it’s probably pretty much the same way now. He’s only said he’s “hoping” for longevity in the business, not that he’s expecting it. I’m sure he knows that he’s not to everyone’s taste. But I don’t think he wants to live a life or make music in a way that doesn’t suit him, even if it means he gets only a small audience. He knows he can always fall back on theater and such if the recording artist thing falls through, so I expect he figured there was no point trying to win over conservative people who wouldn’t be likely to like him anyway.

  89. Not on a cd certainly.

    What is a CD? Are those the things they sell way in the back of Walmart next to the MP3 players and video games?

  90. I’m not worried about Adam alienating anyone by what he said in the article. Sure, it’ll happen. AI fans are notoriously fickle. Like all of Idol winners/runners-up, he can only rely on his AI fanbase for 200K or so. Besides, I’m not reading anything that shocking for a musician. If his music appeals to mainstream radio and gets airplay, he should be fine. That’s something I can’t predict. I’m looking forward to hearing more about who he’s working with in terms of songwriters/producers.

  91. The two bands that Adam Mentions as his favorites are pretty interesting.

    Thievery Corporation is a Washington, DC based producer-DJ duo that does à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“world musicà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  techno with Latin, African, Indian, and hip hop beats and singers. Really interesting stuff:

    Oh, my Ra, how did I miss this? I’ve been a fan of Rob Garza for years. Adam Adam Adam. You continue to amaze me. Love these guys. … And they’re really political. Interesting — guess Adam isn’t so averse to being political after all!

  92. I totally agree with Tess. The American Idol fanbase isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a platform for Adam Lambert. They voted, by all indications, overwhelmingly for the other guy. Clearly Lambert is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“too muchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for the American Idol audience. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s smart to move on.

    I would disagree here – I don’t think they voted “overwhelmingly” for Kris. I think Kris, in the end, had broader appeal, but I’ve heard a lot of different opinions about what people thought of Adam at the end. Even those who didn’t vote for him were either more for both Kris and Adam (loved them both, didn’t care who won), or thought Adam was the most talented, but weren’t completely sold on the OTT style, etc.

    I think if it turns out Kris won by a HUGE margin, at least some of that would be due not so much to how many individual fans each had, but rather, how many VOTES they got (power voting, texting, what have you). Not to say I don’t think Kris won completely fairly (because I do).

    To those who haven’t read it, the whatnottosing.com summary of how the votes (might have) played out is actually really interesting, and, imo pretty accurate (mainly just saying that Adam had more “hot” and “cold” fans (loved him or hated him), while Kris had more “warm” and “mild” fans (broader middle appeal with fewer detractors).

    I don’t think it indicates at all who will have more success in the future (and for the record, I’ll just keep reiterating that I hope they both have great success, because they are both really really talented guys)

  93. I just gotta say…. I love this kid! I love his unfiltered honesty. Several people seem to think Adam has done some damage by being so candid in the RS article. I completely disagree. I am so happy he’s not talking in “appropriate speak.” He sounds very much like the confident, well spoken, excited, “edgy with a smile” kind of guy I grew to admire during American Idol. (And always knew his interviews would be fun:-)

    Those of us that troll the blogs and live in the Adam Lambert Bubble are disecting every little tidbit about this guy… from his every utterance to the (sexy) freckles that adorn his (awesome) lips. (Back on track now… focus… focus.)

    Out of my large group of friends who can’t wait to buy Adam’s album (which includes a 9 year old boy – to a 75 year old grandma) none of them are going to be impacted one iota by the RS piece. First… they won’t see it, and second they’re more interested in his music. (I’m the freaky fangirl who will run all over town buying up the mag.) Pretty much the rest of the group can’t remember what they had for breakfast… let alone what particular word or phrase Adam Lambert may have uttered in an article in Rolling Stone magazine.

    As average fans…. they’ll fork over dough for albums, but they are unlikely to purchase the magazine. Important to note though… they will be aware of Adam being on the cover of RS, but it will just serve to validate their belief that they are anxiously awaiting an album from the next “hot” thing.

    I don’t mean to underestimate the importance of Adam being in RS. It certainly increasese his profile… in the US and worldwide, and my feeling is that is a really, really good thing and all the disecting of what he said is just making my brain hurt. It’s cool and it’s fun to see what he says…. but in the end…. isn’t it really about the music?

    There is a moving train called “Adam Lambert” and it’s full speed ahead… complete with baggage and massive awesomeness! I’m just glad to be here to witness it!

    Winks

  94. What turns me off though are singers who are more into the celebrity aspect of fame than the actual music aspect. If I feel like Adam is out there more to play celebrity and say controversial things while standing on red carpets and getting his picture taken than to actually make music, it will be a turn off.

    I see him as a glorified Kat McPhee. So far it’s not so much about the music. He said himself he wants to be a superstar and all that comes with it. I wonder if he’ll be caught swimming in a pool with his boyfriend, eating ice cream and missing the tour. That would be freaky.

  95. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ I just dont think the funk/dance/electronic stuff is gonna work in the Statesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ”

    Ever heard of Lady Gaga, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, Goldfrappà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..etc?

    Exactly. For anyone mentioning that the dance/electronic route is a dead end, last I heard most of what was popular on the radio or itunes right now is exactly like that.

    In fact, watching acts like Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, BEP perform on AI all season (hugely theatrical, effects, costumes, dance tracks, etc.) I couldn’t help but think, hmmm, that’s Adam’s style right there!

  96. I totally agree with Tess. The American Idol fanbase isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a platform for Adam Lambert. They voted, by all indications, overwhelmingly for the other guy. Clearly Lambert is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“too muchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for the American Idol audience. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s smart to move on.

    AI viewers voted him all the way to second place. That’s far from indicating that casual AI viewers didn’t like Adam or vote for Adam. Second place still indicates popularity. From the way some talk you would think Adam was voted off in the semi-finals as opposed to actually making the finals.

    I’m not getting into whether or not Adam alienated fans or whether or not he needs the AI viewers as a platform, but he was popular with AI viewers.

  97. I hope this is the right thread for my comments.

    First I would like to mention that I have been visiting all AI season and love this website and reading what you all think. The conversations have substance.

    Must mention: Love Adam and what he did on AI. Never watched it regularly before….

    I am not troubled by Adam’s usage of drugs. And I don’t believe his “use” went into the area of “abuse”. Otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to work and acheive all he has. But my knee jerk reaction to what I read was “oh no”‘. Only because he is such a great role model for people and I worry about those younger kids who might take it as a call to action. If you know what I mean. Adam was an adult when he first tried drugs (being a kid is different in my mind). I am not reading any intent on Adams part on this.

    But I had a bigger “oh no” moment. I am thinking that Adams comments about Chris might be uncomfortable for Chris (ok, maybe I am just getting old and behind the times). I really hope that Chris was consulted and was OK for Adam to discuss that he was attracted to him. Its a personal subject that involves a 3rd party.

    I won’t be surprised if seeing the contents as part of the whole article clears up all this for me.

    Anyway. Am I getting too old and behind the times?

    (I think Adam’s career will soar and rightly so. I look forward to it.)

  98. To those who havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t read it, the whatnottosing.com summary of how the votes (might have) played out is actually really interesting, and, imo pretty accurate (mainly just saying that Adam had more à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“coldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  fans (loved him or hated him), while Kris had more à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“warmà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“mildà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  fans (broader middle appeal with fewer detractors).

    Interesting. Also distressing, kind of. This is one of the things that irks me about the show — and it shouldn’t because I know that it’s “first and foremost a tv show,” as Elliott always says.

    But those “warm” and “mild” fans and non-detractors who still vote are the 19 million people out of 20 million people who may vote but then have no intention of supporting the kids’ music. And, yeah, I know that sometimes people end up putting out music that the voters don’t like, and that’s why they don’t buy. But because it’s “just a tv show,” lots of people vote for the fun of the battle and then forget the artists ever existed.

    That’s not the hope the contestants sign up for, but I suppose it’s better than if they didn’t get the exposure from the show at all. Personally, I’ve only ever voted when I was very sure that I wanted to support the person’s career. But I guess if that were a requirement, there’d be few people left in the audience, lol. Also, sigh.

  99. Not to say I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Kris won completely fairly (because I do).

    Thanks for that.

    And I just wanna add that being a very sexually graphic, in your face pop singer hasn’t hurt a lot of people — including many a rapper, etc.

    But that can come at a loss of other fans too, who don’t go for that.

    Anyway, what do any of us know? The whole season was a box of surprises, and rationality has nothing much to do with pop culture or life in general…. :cheese2_ee:

  100. MrRJ
    Jun 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ I just dont think the funk/dance/electronic stuff is gonna work in the Statesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ”

    Ever heard of Lady Gaga, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, Goldfrappà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..etc?

    Exactly!!!! Im always surprised when people seem to forget that right now dane music is dominating the top ten of both BillBoard and Itunes, an when I say dance I include Boom Boom Pow in that category.

    ETA: Right this moment on the Itunes top 10 there are no less 5 electronic singles, 2 of them are Black Eyed Peas, the others are Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Sean Kingston.

    Besides not all electronica is dance, there is such a thing as a ballad in the genre.

  101. Re my last post… oops… found the right (other) thread for my non-music comment. :)

  102. Freddie Mercury, Elton John (and even Cher for that matter) all perform varied styles of music and have gone way farther over the top than Adam has yet to display. Maybe I’m showing my age, but I remember in the early 70’s watching Elton John one-upping a peacock.

    Both these men (and maybe Cher) are Gay, rich and beloved my millions all over the world. I THINK ADAM WILL BE OK.

  103. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not getting into whether or not Adam alienated fans or whether or not he needs the AI viewers as a platform, but he was popular with AI viewers.

    Well, I think many people got to watch AI for the first time due to Adam ´s talent. I am one of those. Most of my friends and students turned to AI after I commented on the boy ´s talent. I am sure there are more people like us all over the world because I have read about it.
    All his work is incredible, starting with his pre-idol performances.

  104. Birchtree – you’re not old! But don’t worry about the Kris thing. Remember Adam and Kris know each other VERY well by now. Everything written was said in “Adam talk”. Kris has probably heard this stuff from Adam before and from what I’ve seen, Kris gets a kick out of him. This was just Adam talk about the beginning of the relationship. I’m sure Kris laughed about it. Kris will get some good press out of it I’m sure. I’d bet anything that this is not the most shocking thing Adam has said to him. (If you have Gay sarcastic friends, you’ll know what I mean)

    The Dance pop stuff is popular. Archie just released an itunes thing where his fans are promoting some Dance Pop song (haven’t heard) that has apparently become an underground hit. (so they say)

  105. I wonder if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be caught swimming in a pool with his boyfriend, eating ice cream and missing the tour. That would be freaky.

    Are we talking about the same Adam here? The Adam that took control of every performance down to his nail polish. The Adam that set up a mock office in the mansion so he could work out arrangements on his computer. The Adam that took the time to help others. The Adam that folded jeans in a store so he could have time for auditions.

    Surely you jest.

  106. I don’t want to quote someone immediately above me, so I’ll just say “Right On” sidewalkstory! From everything that’s been said about him by people who have worked with him pre-Idol, it’s pretty clear he has a great work ethic. Add to that creativity and major talent and I don’t think he’s going to be slacking off on the tour. He’ll approach it as he did the show – with the utmost professionalism.

    I doubt that the RS story will turn off any potential Adam fans. Certainly anyone who supported him on the show knows pretty well what he’s all about and accepts it. Or loves it (as I do). If you like his ballsy performances you’re probably gonna embrace everything about the guy.

  107. Are we talking about the same Adam here?

    Surely you jest.

    The swimming pool was a joke.

    But the comparisons between Adam and Kat are too much to ignore, IMO. Right now the photo shoots, magazine covers, red carpet appearances, superficial hollywood awards, and “breaking” story after the finale are overshadowing the music by a mile. Eerily similar to McPhee 3 years ago. Adam’s scenario is grander and more over the top but it still remains to be seen if any of this will carry over to a successful recording career.

  108. I can see the Kat comparisons….both are technically trained singers, have won a Young Hollywood award, and are runner ups. However, I think Adam has said that he has been working on music for a while, and that his priority is to make an album. He also did an interview with a music oriented mag. So, I think he does take it seriously. Now, if he’ll be a success is another question.

    The drug thing-I completely agree that he has acheived a lot and has worked hard-the articles from his previous employers indicated that he was a timely, prepared, and professional. I don’t down play drug use, but I don’t think he has a serious issue with it. The question was probably asked and he answered it honestly.

  109. There’s one glaring weakness with the McPhee comparison. She was never a particularly compelling performer. Never exhibited any command of the stage. Nor, any particular connection with musical styles. Nor, anything even remotely unique or memorable in her singing.

  110. But the comparisons between Adam and Kat are too much to ignore, IMO. Right now the photo shoots, magazine covers, red carpet appearances, superficial hollywood awards, and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“breakingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  story after the finale are overshadowing the music by a mile. Eerily similar to McPhee 3 years ago. Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s scenario is grander and more over the top but it still remains to be seen if any of this will carry over to a successful recording career.

    THIS.
    Kat was a media darling (and got one of those lovely Young Hollywood Awards too). Her album sales were dismal at best. But, people still like to look at her. And, let us not forget, one of the most searched contestants ever, Ms. Pickler. Her music career isn’t exactly stellar but people certainly like to look at the “adornments” her money has bought. It’s also important to remember that media love and public interest does not always equate to “liking” someone or wanting their music. As many of the comments here and elsewhere online seem to indicate, Adam has a hardcore cult base of Claymate-like fans and many others who simply “love to hate” him and wouldn’t touch his music with a ten-foot pole.
    The itunes recordings from AI are still available. If Mr. Lambert was all that and a bag of chips (in a musical sense as opposed to a media one), he should be selling like hot cakes. If the vast majority of people really want all things Adam Lambert, why isn’t that the case?
    And, quite frankly, what little has been said about his musical plans is all over the place and sounds like a hot mess.

  111. I just checked twitter’s Adam Lambert trend and I can safely say that 95% of the comments are supportive and glowing.

    I think he did OK with the article. The cover is a huge hit by the way.

  112. I don’t think comparison to Kat or Clay will help us predict where Adam will be at a year from now. Yes, there are things that Adam has in common with these people but there are also things that seperate them. Luckily, a person is the maker of his own destiny, so let’s hope Adam makes the best of it.

  113. edit: yes, it’s for everyone, including the haters. these sorts of comments will get you banned

  114. I just checked twitterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Adam Lambert trend and I can safely say that 95% of the comments are supportive and glowing.

    Yes. I notice that too. Also, sensible people are waiting to read the entire article before making any type of judgments. The sexuality/burning man festival stuff isn’t really what is the most interesting part of the article by reading the clippings. I want to read more about him growing up, his experiences on idol, what his goals are, relationships with other contestants, etc. Its going to be really good I think.

  115. Are we talking about the same Adam here? The Adam that took control of every performance down to his nail polish. The Adam that set up a mock office in the mansion so he could work out arrangements on his computer. The Adam that took the time to help others. The Adam that folded jeans in a store so he could have time for auditions.

    Surely you jest.

    Thank you, sidewalkstory.

    I am surprised that people think he doesn’t deserve it (the cover) He sang more than an album’s worth of songs on the most popular show on t.v. (He does have an album on iTunes, don’t see Kris’ anymore in the top 100 btw) He broke the mold of what a contestant should be on AI. Whether you loved him or not, you wanted to see him perform. He sang Led Zeppelin for gawdsakes!! And the thing he can do with his eyebrow (see Beth) is made of legend…for that alone he should have won Idol. imo. ;)
    I can’t see into the future, so I can’t predict Adam’s success, but if his album focuses on the power of his incredible voice, he will have nothing to worry about because that is what drew me to him. He made me like Play that Funky Music, dangnabbit. That is a friggin amazin skill in itself.

    xuziqueue thanks so much for that link, although everyone must be watching it cause it keeps stopping..lol. That watch is really cool!

  116. Yes.
    Remember, he was in the LA music scene for 10 years and never got signed anywhere, let alone had a record recorded or released.

    Well kinda. He’s 27 now, so he didn’t even leave home until 18, he went to college for a bit than went to LA. But mostly it’s been theatre for years, be it in Texas (which he recently references in another interview) or a European tour of Hair (the same year he dyed his hair, did drugs and lost his virginity, eventful 21st year). He was doing some rock and/or pop stuff in the last few years once he got back to L.A. in addition to his theatre work. But he hasn’t been part of the rock/pop scene in L.A. trying to get a music deal for 10 years.

    That Adam likes people like Muse, Goldfrapp and Thievery Corp in addition to pop types like Lady Gaga and Madonna, reassures me. Though I don’t know what kind of record he’ll make, I hope it’s great. But having loved Trip Hop and various forms of electronica that are very different, I expect a wide variety of musical styles and influences with it and know you can still make a cohesive and interesting album. I mean check out even more mainstream stuff like the Ultra Chilled collections 1-3 (the rest are suck) and you have Dido, Coldplay, Gorillaz, Nelly Furtado, and yes, Goldfrapp and Thievery Corp, on them. Versus some Trip Hop sound that has some definite rap with it, like Massive Attack’s Blue Lines. Music doesn’t have to be rigid and some of the most interesting of it to me, isn’t. I mean my favourite Beastie Boys album was “Paul’s Boutique,” (and it’s located in Brooklynn) and I remember how much I enjoyed that as a kid.

    And even if Adam crashes and burns musically, at least he’s going to try and thank goodness for that. So tired of safe music and safe musicans.

  117. What music? Until he puts out something, there is no music to talk about.

  118. I really want to like his music, and I’m both excited and nervous, because some of the influences he cites I love, and some… not so much…
    Which probably is true for almost everyone out there, since he cites some pretty diverse artists! Personally, I hope he follows his love for Muse, and classic rock.

    About all the rest of the controversy: I think he did great for himself being honest about all he is. He might lose a few AI fans, but he has opened up the game for many more to be open minded about liking his music once it comes out (without any “Idol stigma”). And in the long term being honest is the only strategy that pays off anyway!
    Also, it’s not like he’s going to places that are new in the music business… Who does not own any music by a gay person, or by an artist who has experimented (or much more) with drugs?!?!?!

  119. I can see the Kat comparisonsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.both are technically trained singers, have won a Young Hollywood award, and are runner ups. However, I think Adam has said that he has been working on music for a while, and that his priority is to make an album. He also did an interview with a music oriented mag. So, I think he does take it seriously. Now, if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be a success is another question.

    Well, I’ll give you that they’re both pretty — and have gained attention because of it — and both have pretty voices and trained voices. But for me the comparison stops dead right there. No matter whether Adam’s performances appealed to you or not, there’s no way to deny that he was an extremely together performer, very focused — which made him compelling to lots in the audience for way more than just the sexy pretty — and is an extremely focused vocalist who does exactly what he wants with his voice at all times (whether you like what he does with it or not.)

    Katharine, on the other hand, really couldn’t get it together in the competition, in my opinion (despite a few very fine performances). In general, she wasn’t very focused on the stage, she was always self-consciously, inappropriately smiling, and pretty frequently her nerves and lack of focus made her lose control of her voice, too. She had the vocal training, but she used it sometimes — and other times, it appeared to me, not at all.

    In short, I’d say Adam is fully ready to try to capitalize on the attention (whether he’ll succeed or not is not yet known, of course), while Katharine really really wasn’t ready. She hadn’t mastered her talents or herself the way he has.

    Big difference, if you ask me.

    And at least a few people are still buying the Idol “album”! lol It’s #41 right now. Kris has fallen off the top 100 albums chart finally, but he was still on there yesterday, too, at 90-something. There are a *lot* of recording artists in the world. I’d take top 100!

  120. I am surprised that people think he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it (the cover)

    I’m not surprised. Its because Adam lost AI. A lot of people who didn’t like Adam thought he was just a “fad” and his 15 minutes would be up after the competition. Or at least they hoped he would disappear to never be heard of again with the exception of a possible play performance 10 years from now. Its not turning out that way. What they didn’t bet on was the industry actually embracing him as a possible up and coming star.

  121. A few comments:

    1. There is only one kind of voting that means anything anymore — the sound of the cash register ringing. Adam’s iTune Album in the first 2 weeks sold 25,000 copies and it’s still #5 on the BB Digital Album charts. That’s on top of all the singles and videos sold since the season started. I can only assume that a lot of copies of Mad World and his other performances were sold during the 8 weeks that sales numbers were not reveal. In addition, to all the free audio and video tracks that people have collected.

    2. Being the most talked about person online for a day is a LOT of buzz. And the early read on the comments are that they are over 90% positive. That is amazing.

    3. If you are not going to buy or listen to music from people who have done drugs, it’s going to be a very quiet world — Elvis, Beattles, Michael Jackson, Bing Crosby (top 4 all time recording artists) all did hard drugs. Also toss out every album on the top 100 Rock albums of all time list. And just about everyone in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    4. The music that Adam is talking about is the top selling genre in the US and the World. Look at the charts.

    Finally, there is no need to tear down Adam to try and build up your fav Idol. If you prefer someone else, that’s fine with me. I have the capacity to like more than one and don’t want to listen to one artist all the time. Anyway, it won’t work. All the AI folks are out of the bubble now and need to compete with legions of talented singers and musicians.

  122. Access Hollywood did a nice little piece on the RS cover/article. It was completely favorable towards Adam. He owns this issue now. It can’t be “gossiped” or tabloid. After this, no one will care anymore.

    Concert and then Album!!

  123. There isn’t really much music to talk about for anybody right now, not just Adam.

    Having said that, I actually look forward to what Adam will put out. I absolutely LOVE electronic-music. I also like pop music, rock, dance and have a weakness for power ballads. Basically, Adam was made for me. lol

    Music has gotten so fractured lately, splitting into more niche styles and sub-genres. The internet has made marketing music to the masses a lot harder, in my opinion. I genuinely think that is part of the decline in album sales, among many other reasons.

    However, if Adam gets his way, I don’t see meshing styles as something that is not-market friendly, but actually very market-friendly. “Fusion” is what Lady Gaga says she does and she has a lot of the same influences as Adam. Black Eyed Peas latest album is much more electro-pop. Sam Sparro, while not being a huge success, mixes dance, rock, funk, and pop. Black & Gold was a hit in some countries and got a lot of club play here in LA.

    A lot of popular pop stars look to the underground/counterculture trend to shape them and THAT is where they find success. Madonna is the queen of this. It’s a much harder mold to follow, but taking the right cues from the underground can bring greater success than just fitting into a spot on the market. It’s not the easiest path to success though and the risk of falling on your ass is much greater.

    I know it’s not a guarantee that Adam will get his way, but if he does I don’t think it will be an automatic failure. It doesn’t guarantee automatic success, but I do see a lot of potential in Adam.

  124. CNN Showbiz Tonight

    A.J. Hammer seems to really like the article.

    Tkat- yes! I think the buzz about Adam has boosted his sales, I am pretty sure he was around #49 this morning in album sales and he is now #39. I’m weird I check. lol. I hope they keep the songs/videos up longer.

  125. I love when at the end of the video, Adam says “I hope I like it…..!” And then his adorable laugh at the end.

    Such a great personality. I really can’t wait for his album. And, to paraphrase Adam, “I hope I like it, too….”

  126. Ok this is surreal!

    Keith Olbermann is having a segment on the RS cover and Adam!! I love Keith, watch him constantly and he doesn’t usually cover any entertainment on his show.
    The show just started, I’m going to watch.

  127. Thanks for posting that CNN piece 144 RubySlippers. A.J. Hammer LOVES the article and really likes Adam. He’s getting positive rave reviews. Like I said, this is only positive.

    Now, the real test will be his interview on Friday on 20/20. lol What will he say??? lol

  128. got to say it again…. COHESIVE album. Do NOT intermix styles on one CD. It never works. You can do different styles on different albums, but the most successful are those that remain true to a certain style or theme.

  129. Here is another behind the scenes of the photo shoot. Adam is gyrating on the bed with the snake. Have your smelling salts ready.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTtsdWRFn8

    Thanks for the clip, sidewalkstory.

    You know, I watch the video and I totally get how appreciative Adam is to have been given the cover, still I can’t help but think how privileged they are to have him. I love how they’re watching him apply his make up, watching him maneuver the snake, watching him freely pose without any coaxing……. almost learning from him. There can’t have been too many take that kind of initiative in past shoots. He’s a photographer’s dream!

  130. edit: right. it’s offtopic and does not belong in this post. please no highjacking

  131. She was never a particularly compelling performer.

    In my opinion, Katharine McPhee was a great performer. I think the Adam comparisons to Kat are legit. They both are attractive, both were media darlings, both are great technical singers, and both came in second place. Katharine had a musical identity crisis. RCA tried to turn her into this R&B star, when her voice is too polished for that; it wasn’t her, and it showed. I also think Adam has a musical identity crisis in that you can’t really fit him anywhere. Yes, it is great to think that he doesn’t need to be boxed into a category and that he will still take the music industry by storm, but I’m not so sure. I think if RCA tries to turn him into a “rock god” then he’ll flop. Now if they come to realize that he isn’t this rock singer and turn him into a male version of Lady GaGa, then he’ll have a much better chance to succeed. I’ve always taken Adam to be a pop / dance singer.

    But yes, the comparisons to Katharine are uncanny.

  132. Im sorry that I dont have enough patience to read every single comment in every single thread so if this question has been answered forgive me, but is it true that ABC has confirmed Adam’s 20/20 interview for this Friday??

  133. Im sorry that I dont have enough patience to read every single comment in every single thread so if this question has been answered forgive me, but is it true that ABC has confirmed Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 20/20 interview for this Friday??

    Yes.

  134. Here is confirmation from abcnews on the 20/20 thing. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/SummerConcert/story?id=7792417&page=1

    I love Kat. I guess the business is so tricky, but I don’t know why it hasn’t worked out for her yet. Kara was loving Megan as “the package”, but Kat had everything Megan had and a great voice. I’ve read a couple of tweets in the past days saying they’ve worked with Kat in the recording studio. Here’s to hoping she gets that lucky song. I know she’s had steady work, and people in Hollywood love her. But I think she can be a successful pop star still.

  135. I’m glad that Adam seems to be going down the electronic/dance music track. I liked what leaked of his previous stuff before Idol, but was not a fan of a lot of his performances on Idol, it felt stale and not relevant to contemporary music. I think this will alienate a lot of his older fans though, who really enjoyed his throwback classic rock performances. I remember reading a lot of disparaging comments about Lady Gaga when she performed from people who at the same time were fans of Adam, who loved his born to be wild or cryin, and wanted him to tour with Queen. In the long run though pop dance will sell much better than some kind of attempt at classic rock revival.

    I think the Kat comparisons are valid comparisons, and should make Adam fans a bit cautious. Kat had all the ingredients of a big pop star, but was ruined by a HORRIBLE first album. I liked “over it” (embarrassing I know, but it came at the right time to be the perfect breakup anthem lol), and that was a minor hit, but we can’t forget her album included cringe worthy material like “open toes” (Thanks for that garbage Kara!) Hopefully Adam can avoid that, but if he goes in as unfocused as Katherine in what direction he wants to take he might have the same junk forced on him.

  136. I think the Kat comparisons are valid comparisons, and should make Adam fans a bit cautious. Kat had all the ingredients of a big pop star, but was ruined by a HORRIBLE first album.

    I’m a HUGE Adam fan, and never saw a solitary thing in Kat. The comparisons aren’t valid to me. For instance, in the top 4 week, if Kat would have went home before Daughtry would people have been surprised? No. If Adam would have went home in top 4 week, would people have been surprised? Yes.

  137. Haha I knew someone would reply with “well I’m an Adam fan but I didn’t like Kat at all therefore your whole premise is invalid”. They are both from LA, have the most polished appearances, big voices with a lot of range, people who either loved them passionately or hater them passionately, performances on idol that didn’t necessarily reflect the pop/dance route they intended for their albums, and personal lives that overshadowed the music in the weeks after the show (remember all the rumors of Kat’s pregnancy?)

  138. I know lots of u were begging for this…just came across it…Kara’s presentation of the Young Hollywood Magazine’s Artist Of The Year Award and Adam’s adorable acceptance speech…and pls all …urge him to grow back that sexy unique emo hair…

  139. She was never a particularly compelling performer. Never exhibited any command of the stage. Nor, any particular connection with musical styles. Nor, anything even remotely unique or memorable in her singing.

    Are you serious? She was uniquely beautiful–with a voice to match. She had two memorable “moments” with Over the Rainbow and Someone to Watch Over Me.

    Like Adam, she was thoroughly California. Like Adam, she had a very good voice. Like Adam, she had a lot of media attention. Like Adam, she came in second. And like Adam she never really captured the heart of middle America.

  140. I know lots of u were begging for thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦just came across ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Karaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s presentation of the Young Hollywood Magazineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Artist Of The Year Award and Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s adorable acceptance speechà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and pls all à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦urge him to grow back that sexy unique emo hairà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid25075782001?bclid=25736479001&bctid=25829783001

  141. I just don’t get the claims that Adam’s somehow unique. What’s unique about a kid from LA who’s gay and is an occasional user? Adam’s a type. He’s only unique for AI–but that’s not saying much. It won’t get him a career in music unless he produces something people want to hear in a big way. It’s not enough that he’s fun to watch on a stage. You don’t watch radio.

  142. I am sure he will talk more about the music later. He just need to get “these things” out of the way. To me, he has been talking about his music all along. I am no professional in music but he mentioned many times about doing a little bit of everything, like fusion kinda thing. We just have to wait and see. I really believe that he needs to address his sexuality because everybody is asking him the same question everyday. I don’t know if it will hurt or help him, but I didn’t get turned off by the RS interview. Can’t speak for others. Wish him the best. Love Adam.

  143. I don’t know about the Kat comparisons. I had problems imagining what kind of career she’d have post-idol during that season, and I was studying it all pretty hard at the time. She had a good voice, was beauitful and sexy, but she definitely had no defined style on the show. She did the best on old-fashioned songs, yet didn’t particularly have a knack for blues, pop, rock, anything that could have more easily segued into a successful contemporary career. I remember most speculation about what people would get into post-idol had her pegged as having a successful theater or acting career. Her voice and look were definitely very broadway.

    Adam could definitely be seguing into that kind of career as well, especially with his acting ability and experience, but I also see a lot more potential as a relevant music artist as well.

  144. Having said that, I actually look forward to what Adam will put out. I absolutely LOVE electronic-music. I also like pop music, rock, dance and have a weakness for power ballads. Basically, Adam was made for me. lol

    Calliope – just took one quote above, but I completely agree with this, and with the rest of the post!

  145. The itunes recordings from AI are still available. If Mr. Lambert was all that and a bag of chips (in a musical sense as opposed to a media one), he should be selling like hot cakes. If the vast majority of people really want all things Adam Lambert, why isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that the case? And, quite frankly, what little has been said about his musical plans is all over the place and sounds like a hot mess.

    According to the ITunes charts, Adam’s album is at #37 and all of his videos have been on the top 30. Adam has been at the top of the ITunes sales for the AI contestants through out the show so his songs have been selling consistently well throughout. Mad World is still on the top 100, and that song has been out for over two months. Kris is lagging behind in almost all of the charts except for the singles ranking in which he is doing fairly with “No Boundaries”, the winner’s song.

    Plus, Adam’s album officially charted at #57 on the Canadian chart. In case you’re wondering, Kris’s album didn’t make the chart at all.

    People made a big deal about Adam’s sexuality but he made it this far because his talent and star quality is undeniable. Simon Cowell said the show had found a star when they found Adam. Like it or not – Simon is right more often than not.

  146. Maybe the article won’t have a lot on music, but it’s interesting that that’s just about all Adam talks about in the photo shoot video (maybe that’s been said in the 3 earlier pages of comments that I’ve not read). Maybe that’s the editor’s doing, but either way, it’s a good sign, imo.

    Interesting reading the Kat comparison comments. I can see some of the similarities that some are mentioning (good looks, well trained voice, comes from LA, media interest (I’ll take that one on faith re Kat, because I honestly don’t remember any particular media frenzy regarding her)) but don’t see those as particularly relevant to whether either would do/could do good music post Idol.

    The one comparison that I do think is very relevant and makes me nervous, is whether Adam has a strong and good musical sense of what he wants to do. I’ve heard the descriptions but cannot at all evaluate them. I honestly see him more like Taylor in some significant ways that worry me a little: both been in the business awhile, used to entertaining a wide audience through wide styles, both with an apparently deep and broad love and knowledge of music, both hungry to break in to recording. Taylor went the route of supposedly fusing a lot of styles into his own “sound”, letting his voice be the unifying factor. Now, I know a lot of people don’t like Taylor’s voice, but I do. But this approach just didn’t work for him, IMO. The first album was mediochre and the second wasn’t even that.

    It’s got to be about good music first, and a good voice (or good guitar playing or whatever) second. Adam’s got an amazing voice and, imo, a very interesting and emotionally compelling approach to what he does. (In both regards, that’s where the Kat comparisons don’t make sense to me – for me she falls more in the Anoop category: beautiful voice but very conservative, traditional, and for me, often boring in her readings).

    But it’s one thing to choose good music and cover it in a new and interesting way. It’s quite another thing to write/find/create really good songs from scratch. I hope Adam can do it. But find great songs first, then think about how to use that amazing instrument on them. That’s what an instrumentalist would do. I’m sure that’s his intention, I just hope he can pull it off. My piece of advise that won’t ever be seen: Adam, run your ideas by anyone whose taste you trust – friends, family members, colleagues, whoever, then go with your gut.

  147. Ahhhh, what a nice surprise to reach into my mailbox after work and the first thing I see is the green lettering on my copy of Rolling Stone!! Didn’t expect it for a few days…

    The article is very good. You get a great sense of Adam and his family and his life.

    There are a few funny stories. His dad relayed:
    “Once, someone gave Adam a two-CD set of Seventies disco, the era that I hate the most, and I came home to him playing ‘Brick House’ at full volume. I was like, ‘Man, it’s so depressing that I have to live through this music twice!”

    (I’m on your side on this one, Adam – I LOVE Brick House!! heh)

    Adam talking about his brother:
    “My brother Neil called me last night so drunk, with his friends,” he says, giggling. “He said ‘We think you should do an album of covers called ‘Doin Hella Dudes’: You’ll cover some badass dudes, but it’ll be like you’re doin’ dudes, you know?'” He lets out a loud guffaw from deep in his belly. “Then he said, ‘It’s cool if you can’t thank us now, but when the album comes out, give us credit, because we love you.'”

    I love this guy…

  148. I haven’t read many of the comments in this thread (or any of the others posted today, for that matter – overwhelming amount of pages to go through!), but this is my personal opinion on Adam’s music:

    His pre-Idol tunes range from alt(ish)-rock to techno/dance to pop ballad. This does not include the clips of his live performances i.e. Upright Cabaret, Wicked, Brigadoon et al. I loved the retro stuff he performed on Idol, and I love all his pre-Idol stuff. His description of the type of music he wants to record may sound a bit strange and/or unfocused to some people, but I think that with good songs and good producers, he will pull it off and take the world by storm. Some people also don’t believe he will translate well to radio, but I think his voice is compelling enough that even without the visual stimulation, it will still totally work.

  149. #21 on Google – adam lambert in drag pictures
    What about the music? Indeed.

  150. Ok.This is funny. I know Adam plays with boys. Never thought other wise. But those shots from the RS photoshoot and that cover make my brain melt! Hot and talented!

  151. hellothere
    Jun 10th, 2009 at 4:36 am
    #21 on Google – adam lambert in drag pictures
    What about the music? Indeed.

    Hellothere, a few weeks ago there was some discussion about how one of the top trending google topics was “Kris Allen wife.” There’s interest in both Kris and Adam as people, in their private lives, and that is especially true of Adam. That doesn’t mean people aren’t also interested in their music–people seem to be right now, but whether that continues long term remains to be seen.

  152. mj –

    can you get us more details about the Elvis watch that Adam was gifted at the Awards Ceremony

    like – details regarding why, how…what it looks like??

  153. Just my take on Adam’s eclectic style: yesterday I read the Washington Post’s review of Mos Def’s new cd, The Ecstatic, and here’s a quote from them:

    His new disc, “The Ecstatic,” is the most cohesive, most albumlike thing he’s ever done, though it pulls from seemingly every disparate musical interest he’s had: jazz, poetry, blues, psychedelia, Eastern rhythms, Spanish-language quasi-pop.

    Basically, the reviewer points out that, though he threw in all sorts of different styles (even ballads, old school songs, etc.) the album maintained a cohesive, unified feeling, so it’s definitely possible to achieve both.

    It immediately brought to mind exactly what Adam has described trying to do.

    Regarding the Taylor Hicks comparison, I would say one big difference, just from my pov, is that Taylor’s music never seemed very radio-friendly – never top 40 material, even on the show. Adam seems to state very contemporary, modern, pop-friendly influences, which are more promising for future success.

  154. Re Adam’s music, the only thing that skeers me, is when he said (paraphrasing here) “cover it all with an electronic sound” >> NOOOOOOOooooooo.

    Please Adam, don’t do that. Please leave some tracks with just your, pure, unadulterated, magnificent, soaring vocals. Please?

  155. Um, yes, back to the MUSIC on this thread???

    Ditto to Mary102 above: eclectic can be cohesive and pretty damn awesome. Not only Mos Def. Ask Beastie Boys. Ask Beck. Hell, ask Madonna.

    However, I dearly hope Adam drops the word “fusion” from his musical vocab in describing his debut plans. “Postmodern,” I get and can handle (dude’s been reading lit crit???). “Eclectic,” YES, right on! But please, “fusion” only reminds me of mediocre, trendy food from the 90s (crap claiming an “Asian” twist, just adding coconut milk and shitake does NOT a savory meal make…). I really don’t want to consume its Frankenstein-ian, musical version.

    And ah, there’s the rub, my fellow Adam-googling netizens: I’m really hoping for some kick-ass PoMo Eclectic but I do dread it will turn into an overproduced commercial pile of “fusion.” Me thinks there are three possible scenarios for our boy:

    1. Fantasy Eclectic Smash: Think a queer Beck circa Midnite Vultures. I would KILL for a Glambertesque version of something like Sexx Laws, Beautiful Way and most of all, Debra (!!). So his vibe, should he choose to go for some artistic credibiity. I would buy this kind of thing in its entirety and gift it to many friends.

    2. Reasonable Expectation: Commercial pop with faux edge, somewhat overproduced with a couple decent hits but oh-so-flash-in-the-pan forgettable in the long run. “Matrixed” a la Pink, Avril Lavigne, etc. (next to nil “rock” credibility despite the manic panic hair and wallet chain). Maybe I would download a song or two in this scenario and be embarrassed about it a year later.

    3. Stomach-lurching Dread: Hot mess of a “fusion” album. Being Biced or Taylored by 19E/RCA. One-hit, tabloid fodder. Dude seems smart enough to avoid this last scenario but you never know…

    Please, oh please, gimme scenario #1! I would cut off a little black-painted pinkie for that…

  156. And of course, the other dread to put on all of this – what will 19 do to his album? That may be my biggest fear – playing it too safe in the end, and not letting Adam have enough control to get his own voice out there.

    My ideal scenario would have Adam given a fair amount of control to “make it his own”, but give 19 enough control to keep him on track, style-wise, get him hooked up with some helpful collaborators, and make it commercial enough to get decent airplay (though not too watered-down or lame).

  157. I have to agree with the person who says that Adam’s talk for his post-idol music does sound like a hot mess. I remember the first time I heard him speak about it (on LKL) I cringed because I just could not for the life of me imagine what he was describing would sound like and chalked it up to Adam just having difficulties explaining the sound that was in his head. But more and more he seems to be teetering or the edge of ridiculous. He lists a million and one different styles that he wants to put on an album, and never quite manages to convince me that he even knows what the heck he wants! Oh well, I continue to be a supporter of Adam, but it is going to take some awesome singles before I even consider buying his record…

  158. OK, this from a total music novice, me:

    This is what we have….a voice that has proven to go 16 1/2 steps but whose bottom range hasn’t been really shown.

    A person who enunciates very clearly…you can understand every word he sings…and that is totally not the norm in this day and age.

    Breath control…Adam has been well trained to know when and how to breathe, he knows where his voice and his breathing comes from, even on his high notes he pulls it all from his diaphram.

    Emotion…he worked the entire time on Idol learning how to put emotion and feeling into a song. He had to let go of a lot of the “theatrics” he had been using for several years and relearn to sing from that hidden place inside of himself.

    He has perfect rhythm and cadence. He can go falsetto and back to normal voice in a flash…as well he can sustain his falsetto without it being foolish or overdone. He can hold a note, or incorporate many notes in grand flourishes.

    Now I know that I don’t know any technical terms, but hopefully the idea is here. The bottom line is that I think Adam has an amazing instrument and that I think there will be a lot of really smart and savvy songwriters and producers that will ensure him good material to work with. This isn’t some “sing in the shower” novice they are working with. Thank God!

  159. Tess, I agree with you (and for the record, you actually sound like you do know quite a bit about what you’re talking about, singing-wise!)

    Earlier points were even made about how great singers like Sinatra didn’t really write their own music, but had a marvelous voice and great charisma as performers, and that the great material came to them (or was written for them) as a result, that makes a lot of sense in terms of where the singer can go.

    Bottom line with Adam is that he has AMAZING versatility as a singer (able to sing just about anything) – which can be both a positive and negative for him, depending on how it’s harnessed. Again, I hope his producers help him stay focused and on track for the album (create a coherent sound and feel), while letting him explore different aspects of his ability and musical inclinations. I don’t see it as a big stretch to do that.

    It will come with the potential danger of not being as cohesive as something like say, Daughtry’s album, but, otoh, it won’t have every track sound like the same bland, forgettable crap, which so many idol cd’s tend to do.

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