X Factor Lillie McCloud Is Nicole McCloud, Acclaimed Recording Artist

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How about that. Lillie McLoud, the stunning, 54 year old R&B singer hasn’t really been sitting around raising a passel of kids and grandkids as her video package would have us believe.

Lillie’s daughter outed her, more or less.

A google search on Nicole McCloud turns up a wealth of information on the singer. She was a dance floor diva in the 80′s and 90′s charting a slew of hits, and performing alongside some of the greats. She was signed to Epic records.  Via Wiki

Nicole J. McCloud (born in 1960 in Rochester, New York) is an international singer who has performed with Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, the group Kool & The Gang, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Timmy Thomas and other artists. She has lived in the United States most of her life where she has recorded four albums. She now lives in Košice, Slovakia.

Well, the bio info said she lived in Orlando. But did you notice the white man who accompanied her and her daughter to the audition? He wasn’t introduced, but…

In the mid 2000s, Nicole moved to Košice, a small village in Slovakia, to live together with her partner, the football trainer Günter Kronsteiner. Her first Slovakian performance took place at the prestigious Košice International Jazz Festival 2006, where she unexpectedly performed with jazz legend Peter Lipa.

In 2010, Nicole provided the title song for the Slovakian version of Britain’s Got Talent, ‘?esko Slovensko má talent’.

There’s even a Simon Cowell connection there!

She’s had hits, yo.

Nicole first appeared on the US Billboard charts in 1985 with “Always and Forever,” which ultimately peaked at No. 66. Her breakthrough single “Don’t You Want My Love” reached Top 10 in the US, the Netherlands, Belgium and Sweden. Ten of Nicole’s singles landed the US Billboard charts. So far, her biggest hit has been the 1994 single “Runnin’ Away” which peaked at #3. In 2002, Nicole returned to the Top 10 with “Search’n” (#5). That same year she received a nomination for the International Dance Music Awards, along Craig David and Shakira.

“Don’t You Want My Love” reached number 10 on the DANCE chart in 1986. Still. That’s pretty good. It also charted in several European countries. (US R&B #66 Belgium #7 France #18 Germany #20 Netherlands #9 Sweden #8)

“Runnin’ Away” peaked at number 3 on the US Dance chart in 1994. There are a ton of remixes on You Tube

I thought she seemed a little too put together and skilled to be a newbie! Oh producers. Why do you lie to us when the truth always comes out? I would hazard a guess that the name change (maybe the singer’s real name, or a middle name) was to downplay her experience.

This is Stacy Francis all over again. Minus the extreme crazy.

Here’s Lillie/Nicole’s X Factor audition:


Lillie McCloud – Alabaster Box – XFactorUSA 3… by IdolxMuzic

 
  • No Thanks

    She looks like Sinitta…ie.,,,Simon’s type back in the day.

  • Bugme Nomor

    That’s not a normal outfit for a gospel singer. Perhaps that should have been a clue.

  • Sassycatz

    So, it’s all bull. The X-Factor is turning into The Voice, recruiting real, accomplished artists who are down on their luck.

    “Discovering a superstar?!” Really?

  • RoRo Williams

    Exactly what I told my hubs…

  • No Thanks

    At this point I could care less. I just want to see a good show. The best contestants on all of these shows had quite a few miles on them. Even Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood. Anyone that was truly “fresh off the farm” usually crumbled pretty quickly under the pressure.

  • Sassycatz

    No way did Kelly and Carrie have that much experience. Come on! And I do care, because they’re supposed to be discovering talent, not thawing out people who couldn’t make it the first or third time!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    MJ, I read the same Wiki article. “Always and Forever” in 1985? That was Luther’s hit. I’m guessing she sang background. I’m thinking that was her place in the scene. Not that she doesn’t have tons of experience. But, really, how are we going to find someone with no experience on these shows at this point? They’ll have to start casting fetuses.

  • No Thanks

    Not as much as she did but…Kelly lived in LA and worked as a session singer before Idol (an apartment fire sent her running back to Texas). Carrie had been trying to get a record deal since she was a teenager and performed at local fairs in the South. Fantasia came from a musical family (her cousins were part of the R&B group Jodeci). Ruben performed with bands. Taylor had been hustlin’ for YEARS in the South. Jordin was a pageant kid. David performed in between bartending, etc….

    ALL of them had been working on their craft and working towards a goal of a record deal for a long time before they ever got on Idol.

    No one who is truly “green” can make it on these shows.

  • shell29

    Agreed…all of these shows have had their share of ‘ringers’.

  • H.A.

    OMG, I recognize some of these songs especially “Runnin’ Away” . They’re on my classic underground mix playlists . Interesting. I really don’t care that she has experience as long as she brings it. I love her whole look, vibe and for her age she is fabulous. I don’t think she’ll win because Simon is looking for a pop superstar (someone young) but she will be a great addition to the show.

  • Sassycatz

    No one expects green, but come on. This woman has been in the sell by bin for a while and that has nothing to do with her age, but with her experience. If she truly had been undiscovered at 54, then fine. Great. But this is a joke, a show, and a “don’t look behind the curtain” moment.

    I’m tired of this, because it’s phony. Phony.

  • Amy Beth

    I have no problem with her past experience. But if they used her song on a “got talent” show, then she works for Simon and THAT is mighty unfair.

  • Sassycatz

    So, I have a question. If they are looking for America’s best background singer, why don’t they call it that, Or, at least admit they are trolling established acts to find background singers who they are presenting as “undiscovered” talent.

    Besides … isn’t there a movie about this? One woman from the movie was on The Voice. She was a background singer for The Rolling Stones … a little known group.

  • Last Laugh Lane

    Epic is who signs the winner right ha ha ha let’s see if she’ll lie or avoid

  • No Thanks

    Wasn’t Melinda Doolittle an extremely experienced background singer? And that chick on The Voice too? Should they have not tried either?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lmao!

  • Listening

    Hmmm I did find it really hard to believe that someone with such an incredible voice and poise had done NOTHING in the business at her age and it turns out well she’s done quite a lot.

    You know what this reminds me of the 64 year old dude from an earlier season of X- Factor USA who looked like he was way younger as well. His name escapes me but didn’t he present himself as a nobody or less accomplished than he actually was.

    It irks me when they don’t acknowledge how much experience and fame/opportunities they actually have or should I say when they portray themselves as a novice. It’s one thing not to say anything it’s another to say i’ve done nothing but play w/ my grandkids.

    They didn’t have to conceal her success she’s that great that I don’t care. I’d still want her in the live shows. It’s not like every other reality show doesn’t have professionals on it.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Producers painted her as a housewife who decided to enter the music business. At least The Voice is mostly upfront about their contestants experience.

  • Guest

    lmao!

  • Amy Beth

    I know Simon wants to put on a good show,but is the talent pool so shallow here he has to recruit singers all the way from Slovakia?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I figured that Lillie was too good to be as inexperienced as they portrayed her in her backstory. I’ve reached a point where I expect this kind of thing. The good news is that she’s really good and will contribute to the entertainment level of the show.

  • Amy Beth

    The Voice likes to give their contestants a high concept label. Sometimes it includes their experience, sometimes not. Judith Hill was always introduced as “Michael Jackson’s former backup singer”. Yet Sasha Allen, who had just as much experience was simply the “NY mother of two”. Very inconsistent.

  • girlygirl

    XF has to know that her background would come out, just like it did with Stacy Francis and just like it has with the numerous other reality show contestants who have had previous record deals, etc. I’ve never gotten the feeling that viewers wouldn’t vote for a contestant just because they have had success/a record deal of some sort in the past (ok, maybe some people wouldn’t but I think most people would vote for who they like, regardless of their experience. maybe I’m being naive?).

  • girlygirl

    Leroy Bell

  • Guest

    Maybe the X-factor learn from The Voice Judith Hill. Many people mentioned… why is she here?

  • Kariann Hart

    WOW! What a background. Most would be quite envious. I don’t know about this X-Factor show. Maybe it will get better as we go along?

  • The Diva

    I could care less…I know a slew of entertainers, who had nominal hits & nominations in the 90′s, who are struggling w/kids & don’t make more than $15 an hour in an office setting. Just because you got close to fame, at one time in your life, doesn’t mean the desire goes away or that you don’t deserve another chance to make it!

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Funny! Tell me how old is this album you put up, bout my age! Im 35! You haven’t a clue what you are speaking about! So let me clue you in since you mention me so gracefully! My mother could have been Whitney big and those little shows and concert you refer too, WELL that’s the way a singer eats! ITS NOT A BIG CAREER! it is the limited reach which a mother excepted in place of a BIG career! Which She now DESERVES and it would be nice if you could find another way to make your little blog popular! Big #Love2U -Rayne McCloud daughter on Nicole!

  • scoobynacks

    Why? The reason to like or not like a singer isn’t their backstory. If Lazaro didn’t wean people of that, I don’t know what to tell them. This is a woman who, if you ask most anybody in the US, would be an unknown. A number of people we don’t know have worked with famous people with bigger careers, and I don’t begrudge them an effort to achieve the level they think they deserve. We’ll be the judge of whether they should get there on this show, don’t forget.

    The odds of her getting the attention of the general public without X Factor is nil, and would still be uphill even with the show. Her age would rule her out of a major push out of nowhere. No label is gonna invest in a woman in her 50s unless she does something like win X Factor. I’d rather they not try to hide experience and instead try to spin her as someone who had a moment, had been forgotten (well she sort of has, she’s not charted in the US in forever), and is trying to have a comeback. It’s still fudging it, but it acknowledges what she did before.

  • scoobynacks

    Ryan Ramirez worked for Mia Michaels and tried out for SYTYCD. Yeah, it feels a little incestuous, but is it really that terrible? If people are good enough, let them succeed. I haven’t heard of her, but I definitely knew Hey Monday and Cassadee Pope so her winning The Voice was total BS. She used them and their fanbase to go solo when she already had a platform. The only reason I’d get upset is if someone who was a legitimate unknown and really talented got displaced because of Lillie/Nicole. I don’t think they’re going to “plant” a 50 something woman too far into the competition. It’s not like she’d bring the record sales in from the kids. She’ll have to earn her way.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Not bull, of course my mom works, but with a voice like that shouldn’t you have heard of her by now. that is the clue. She stopped doing the real thing and took on a much smaller potential for us! Now she is free to take it where it should have gone long ago! I dont apprciate being used for negitive things but I want to make it clear. big #Love2U -Rayne McCloud

  • scoobynacks

    Didn’t she act like she took a break out of deference to Michael’s death rather than use the opportunities that came her way after singing at his funeral concert thing (I really don’t know what to call that)? Everybody was all “who’s that?” and she didn’t jump on it for years? By the time an album came out or whatever, it would’ve been plenty of time. Nobody’s gonna accuse you of using the dead. Just felt weird. As soon as I heard who she was, I knew immediately that she was someone I’d made a note of to watch for in the future. Then nothing.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    This is not about not using ones gift at all. My mother sings to eat and always has. DISCOVERED! LOL did you know her before tonight? She opted of that! and trust me it wasn’t for lack of ability! I know better then anyone the opportunities which where forfeited for me. I know the WORLD should have seem my mother way before this evening! “Where have you been?” was asked tonight! I’ll tell you singing where ever singers can get work. NOT on international television before millions! Why? for me & then my sister and then brother who came close behind, then so that she wouldn’t be over seas when i had my baby, then the next baby. Always some reason not to take it the whole way! #Love2U – Rayne McCloud

  • steve2013

    The Problem i have is when they try & hide the fact they do have a past in the industry. Like the voice doesnt try & hide the fact some of there singers have had recording contracts etc

  • Cyclone99

    It’s not that she doesn’t deserve a chance. It’s the deception. She’s had major label deals, 5 songs on the US R&B charts, and top 10 dance chart hits, and now she changes her name and pretends like it never happened? Her real story is probably pretty compelling. Why the subterfuge? I wouldn’t have had a problem with it if they were honest about it.

  • HKfan

    There’s a huge difference between playing bars, fairs, buskin, anything to try and get a break, even being a session singer, to having a record deal and several billboard charting songs, and performing with top name artists.

  • rasafire

    I wouldn’t call Lillie an artist that is down on her luck. I am a drummer that has played with many other artist and we work to eat and keep food on the table but it is a far cry from superstardom; where one is away for months at a time from their family and friends. Just because we work and are eating doesn’t mean we don’t deserve to have that status. I have worked for years an am not inexperienced in the business but no one knows my name. If I went on any one of these shows, it wouldn’t take away from the fact that I have worked for years professionally doing this. Because I choose at some point to take care of my family instead of pursuing a greater career knowing that my family is much more important doesn’t make me a liar or deserve less than I know I am capable of achieving. Besides, Lillie HAS the X factor. I thought that was what the show is all about. Would you have felt better if she said she works in clubs tending bar and sings on the side? How ridiculous is that? She is a singer and no matter how long she has been singing, she is still a singer and great one at that! I too would just love to see a good show this season and everyone that makes it through is deserving of being there.

  • rasafire

    Lillie is HOT!!! no thawing needed. :) I think she did great and 54 or 25, she’s still hot and deserves a shot at stardom!!! :)

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Oh honey. You’re new at this aren’t you. lol. You should count your lucky stars that Vote For the Worst isn’t around anymore.

    The thing is…the show portrayed Lillie as a housewife who up and decided to make a go at show business, and that simply is NOT the case. I’m just filling in the blanks here that the producers oh so conveniently left out.

    Talk about hits and a better story? That’s exactly what X Factor is doing as they leave a few “details” out of her backstory. The green housewife looking for a shot is a more appealing narrative than a singer trying to make a comeback.

    Believe me. This was going to become a thing, whether I uncovered it or somebody else did.

  • rasafire

    I so agree with you. Anyone that aspires to be in the music business works at their craft for years. Some quit. I think it is wonderful that Lillie still feels that she deserves a shot after halting it to be there for her family. Family is important but so is going after our dreams. I for one will vote for her to win. She has worked hard to perfect her craft and deserves another shot since her children are grown now. I think all of her hard work and dedication will pay off.

  • rasafire

    so true. I don’t think it is their intent to find novices but to find talent with star quality and that will only come with some experience.

  • rasafire

    yet, Judith didn’t win. she was good but there were others better than her. its part of the music business. There is always room for the one who believes they can make it.

  • rasafire

    So true

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    More than not, The Voice reveals a singer’s background. They love the second chance narrative.

  • rasafire

    who said she is a gospel singer? I just thought she sung a beautifully inspired song.

  • suenigma

    Above and beyond everything else, THIS WOMAN IS 54? WTF?

    X-Factor sucks for trying to sell us this grossly manufactured narrative, but what the Hell, I’m not going to hold it against her. Singers of her calibre are too few and far between on this show to throw her out with the bathwater. I’m just going to blame TPTB and give her a pass. Go Lillie/Nicole!

  • zaclona77

    OMG, this will probably be way off topic, but I never thought I see the day when the city in which I spent seven years at uni will be mentioned on this blog…*fans herself* … I am well aware that nobody here cares, but Košice is actually the second largest city of Slovakia, with over 200000 folks in it, Nicole lives in a small village near Košice. Anyway, should some Slovakian scoop on this matter be required, I´m available to snoop, translate and provide.

  • rasafire

    And maybe one should really find out the back story before judging what one calls a deception. How many people have signed major deals and got robbed out of their monies, used and cast aside? think about that. How many artists have been one hit wonders? How many untalented singers are still making money with record deals? How about the fact that maybe she just wanted to raise her family before fame took them from her? Maybe she isn’t able to use her old name any more because a label owns it? there can be many reasons one does what they do. Maybe she didn’t get a dime from those old recordings! the music industry is treacherous, believe me. Maybe there is no deception at all. these are things to think about.

  • rasafire

    I didn’t see that picture. I didn’t hear the word housewife either. I think maybe you read into things like you write your blog. with little insight.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    I agree rasa. What is a gospel singer supposed to look like anyway? LOL Doesn’t is say some where in there Manuel not to judge! hehehe

  • Karen C

    Still, why not portray her as a singer looking for another chance instead of a housewife who never had a recording career. It is a much more honest portrayal, and still sympathetic to voters.

  • Karen C

    They always said that Melinda was a backup singer right from her audition. Same with Judith Hill.

  • rasafire

    OH and maybe you should check out Sunday’s Best! There were artists there singing with Kirk Franklin’s label that was wearing tights, high heels and a top with makeup and everything else on the finale show.

  • suenigma

    To be fair though, I doubt that she had much control over how they chose to portray her.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Sorry tried to reply to you but did something else! Anyway “down on their Luck” If someone with a voice like my moms is not a superstar already. That’s pretty unlucky. Artists have to keep trying! People will throw them bones here and there & life may slow them down, the industry will bite,and steal (ALL of this has happened to Lille) but if they want to make it big for real! They should never ever give up!I think you would have known who she was before tonight and the world should have been talking about her long ago! The work she has done before this evening is much like working at McDonalds then Maybe upgrading to say Red Lobster but never owning one of those sky rise CEO office spots. LOL I hope she makes it to the top floor this time! anyway Thanks for your thoughts! & BIG BIG #LOVE2U -Rayne

  • rasafire

    I don’t know, I’m just a musician and know how this industry can be. I think the most important thing is that everyone gets a chance to try out for the show and they pick the more talented people. regardless of her back story, doesn’t she deserve a chance to sing her heart out in this competition? She isn’t a star. so why not give her the chance to compete?

  • Karen C

    I think that is definately true, especially those that have become successful afterwards, their experience helped them. But none of those listed had major label album releases that had hits.

    Even with those that are my favorites, I don’t believe that they should be portrayed as someone who doesn’t have any experience in the music business. I think in a way it actually hurts them, because there is a misconception in the industry that contestants on reality shows don’t have the experience that others would normally have when they get record contracts, and this sometimes keeps them from being taken seriously in the industry.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    True rasa! you know sometimes tours last all year. Sometimes entertainment requires all ones time! These are the things she said no to. The GREAT things! The things that could have made her big. She would get a little attention and then it was too dangerous, to time consuming ect.. Then there was the industry itself ( a mess) On and On! Always something! Im included and all my terrible ways and the need for attention I went through! you know my mom got a tour one time and had to come home! I was being terrible to the nanny person! I was a nasty brat! :( I feel so responsible for much of the slowing of her success. But tonight! It was like a weight lifted! Like something was being repaired that I helped to brake! I don’t care about anything anyone says. This night changed my adult life and took away a burden I can not express.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    LOL you two are funny! A Mess!

  • Bluebeat

    True, the Australian version didn’t hide it with Samantha Jade and she still won.

  • Karen C

    I think she has the right to compete. The problem is when they portray someone as having no experience, when they really had a lot of experience.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    heeey! Its 2013 and she LOOKS better then me! :( Sad but true! LOL Thanks for the compliments! & for sharing you thoughts! BIG #Love2U

  • Karen C

    Probably not, but it is still an issue with the show.

    ETA: Her using a different name points to it being more than just the way the show portrayed her, because that is definately a decision on her part.

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    got talent is a small show in a slovak town. LOL had to go somewhere for work! At lest they gave her some good work for a little while! Its not the same show. :) Its a Slovak knock off show. hehe sorry mom! but its true and a pretty bad attempt at emulation

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    at 50 being through what my mother been through you get over avoiding. Lie? about what none of this was a secret you could google it for God sake! The point is you just figured that out! shes been singing forever and you all just googled her for the first time ever! haha! its great really. Whats sad is too give so much to so many for so long and never really be noticed at all! This is the best conversation of my life! #Love2U – Rayne

  • Bluebeat

    I don’t have a problem with experienced singers entering honestly. Look at last year’s winner on the Australian version, Samantha Jade who already had experience. And besides that’s the purpose of the Over 25s category. It’s for people with experience but need a real big break. By the looks of it, McCloud wasn’t really that famous and she only had a few hits before disappearing into obscurity so why not give her a chance? It will make the Overs category more competitive rather being the show’s main source of ‘sob-stories’. Besides, she’s working her way from the bottom with all the veterans which is fair. Can’t wait for more!!

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    me tool!

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Maybe they should say more out of all fairness to the artist. But we can not control a show. What they did do was find a woman that should have been star forever ago and show her to you all For real! Experience YES! but that just mean lots of work has been done to get to this day! DUES have been paid by my mother LOTS OF DUES!. and some inexperienced person walking off the street should hope to be as deserving!

  • springboard2

    I have nothing against experienced singers entering these shows, but the producers must be upfront about the contestants background, whether it is singing in pubs or having a hit single. It would also be a lot more interesting to have genuine insights into their professional lives and training rather than how many illnesses, accidents and dead relatives they have had, and their ability to shed tears!

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    I know we have been at it! But I give thanks that you are talking about my mom. I agree with you in one place, more should have been said. However she deserves to do this! Really! she did give up the opportunity to work on this level for many many years! She could have done so much more before now! Her voice is not just heard its FELT! It has always been so. People don’t just hear her, they feel her. I have been hoping she would be shared with the world FOR REAL someday, and that happened tonight . All battle aside MJ you know what I hope? I hope to GOD she doesn’t just get into another ring but that she FINALLY WINS the fight to do what she has always dreamed to do on the scale she has always dreamed to do it! BIG #Love2U ;) -Rayne McCloud

  • Bluebeat

    I guess you have a good point. When Samantha Jade(Australia) auditioned she & the producers of the show were honest about her past experience. But who knows? Maybe FOX is afraid that McCloud will be judged harshely by the American public? Perhaps people in Australia & America judge others differently?

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Amen and again!

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    Hits? stolen. every dime! Im gonna be silent on this one but I tell you this everything an artist does they do to eat until someone ethical comes along and helps them, they are doomed on arrival #TNM NONprofit is a business I was inspired to create because of this! I have invested my everything to put a stop to it! It is the saddest part about entertainment and I will surely rant if I continue. So I am gonna leave that alone. But ask yourself why haven’t you seen her in concert if she has had so many “Hits”

  • TNM TheNewMovement

    She did live there. you are right! Once again she tried to start a career. Then my grandmother got sick! NOW? she is back in Orlando! LORD HAVE MERCY! Let this be the TIME! :) #Love2U and HI kosice! At lest they had respect and gave her work! Too bad I never even got to visit! COME GET ME Zaclona77! hehehe – #Love2U – Rayne GOOD NIGHT I AM SO DONE with all this! hehehe Cant WAIT FOR THE NEXT XFACTOR! good stuff!

  • Mateja Praznik

    I don’t care about her experience. She is pretty good. That said, I can’t see how any major label would want to sign someone over 50. After last year’s cowboy, I thought the show would try to avoid another old winner.

  • Karen C

    I would like this better too. I think it’s far more relevant to what the goal of the show is supposed ot be. I also think it would lead to them being taken more seriously in the industry.

  • Karen C

    Simon might be looking for another Susan Boyle type success, though.

  • zebracrunk

    Why target older contestants when they can have another Generation Y flop like Melanie Amaro?

  • Lielle Hart

    Don’t care one bit.

    Just like I don’t care when Dancing With The Stars contestants have “dancing experience” and people seethe and brand then “ringers” – like it’s the worst thing in the world.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Susan Boyle’s audition went viral. Old cat lady, at first glance joke audition, that actually could sing. She was also on Britain’s Got Talent, way different show than X Factor.

    Simon could make cheap albums full of covers with Susan, but he won’t have that luxury with Lillie. Chances of getting her music on the radio are slim to none. Basically, another Tate Stevens situation.

  • Karen C

    Actually, Susan Boyle doesn’t get radio play either.
    If Lillie is going into Gospel, her age probably won’t matter.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Yep, Susan doesn’t get radio play either. That’s why her album sales steadily declined with each album. I’m surprised she is releasing another album next month.

  • LeoCS

    Whatever. She’s not going to be anywhere anyway. These shows are over;

  • usedtobelucy

    Well, I would seldom put the deception on the contestants. Simon and others involved with these competition shows, in the US at least, have tried to hide the entertainment-industry background or even *training* for most of the people who have it.

    It’s certainly possible that here and there it’s been the contestant who wants to keep it quiet, but it’s clear that many many many times it’s the shows. Even on SYTYCD, they try to pretend that street dancers have never had *any* contemporary training and so on. And the singers are virtually always supposed to be straight off the farm, never having sung for anybody but cows before.

    They all want a shot at careers, and they say what the producers tell them to say, for the most part, I expect. Hard to blame people for that.

  • Kesia Monteith

    Honestly, Lillie/Nicole owes nothing to no one. If she wanted to not discuss her professional life, than she doesn’t have to. The problem is, the press will find out, so hopefully she is prepared to deal with her professional life being brought up.

  • waitingforthe1

    MJ it never becomes a “thing” no matter how many people whine and complain about it or try to make it into something more than it is.

    Truth is most of the general public won’t know or even care to know about her previous experience. They only care if she’s a good singer and has that something special that makes her interesting. She is and she does.

  • waitingforthe1

    her hits were decades ago. Did you know about them? Do they give her an unfair advantage because her “fans” might vote for her?

    It’s a level playing field where she has the same chance as everyone else. If they revealed her previous experience some people might root against her because the feel she’s had her shot and why not get out of the way for others to have theirs.
    You’re never too old to go for your dream, even if you’ve gone for it already and almost gotten there. You keep pushing and fighting to make it happen.

  • Igor Šuták

    Sorry honey but Košice is not a small village. It is a city :) google it

  • washpd

    Working away singing at local fairs and in local bars and as a session singer, all trying to get a record deal, is not the same as having had a record deal and a slew of songs on the charts, and then pretending that the reason you’re a 50-something reality contestant is because you put off your own dreams of a career so you could raise your kids. Come on, now.

  • Mateja Praznik

    For Americans it probably is. I’m Slovenian and by our standards 240K population is definitely a city.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Okay. If an experienced recording artist with multiple past hits is cast as a grandmother whose never sung professionally, then basically XFUSA is presenting a “fictional character with good backstory” played by a professional musician — similar to a Disney Hannah-Montana-type show.

    Obvs, that works as “good entertainment,” but I’m not going to watch to see fictional characters compete for a contract that hasn’t, in the first two seasons, proved meaningful to careers anyway.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Susan Boyle is a very unusual “case”, and her kind of phenomenon has little chance of happening again. I think that Simon knows this, and is just riding out the wave until it’s over. In the meantime, Susan will be financially set for life. She’s not suited for performing anyway, as it’s painful to watch her and her promotion has always been limited as a result. I’m hoping that Susan understands the reality of the situation, and will be able to quietly transition out of the limelight without any major emotional issues.

  • A_K_A

    The show said her fiance was named “Terrence” totally different person than Gunter Kronsteiner, check google… seems she got a new bf/finace and her wiki page hasnt been updated. Gunter is looks 15-20yrs older than Terrence dude who obviously has an american accent when he spoke.

  • Kesia Monteith

    Phony? On a reality show?! When are people going to learn that reality TV is barely authentic. We are entering the 13 season of Idol next year, and people still expect authenticity off of their reality programming? I think that’s mighty sad…

  • Kesia Monteith

    I just really don’t get the outrage over these contestants not being upfront about their professional lives, but I guess it’s because I don’t really care.

    Plus , a “phony” on reality TV? I’m sorry, but this is the norm, isn’t it? LOL I’m sorry, but I cannot for the life of me care about the authenticity of a reality program. But hey, this is just a fun read for me :P

  • chillj

    Really. They should just do X Factor The Movie. I caught a couple of acts last night, including this woman’s, and was so impressed I thought I might tune in. Guess not.

  • chillj

    For the vast number of Americans, also, that is a very decent sized city.

  • chillj

    This is just a basic truth in advertising issue. The show and the singer should have been up front and shown accurately what she went through trying to get and sustain a career. Because they were not, I won’t support her.

    Even if a singer is not the person proposing this deception, it is her choice whether she will accept it and can live with it. Unless she is honest, it is simply fraud, like any other fraud. The television industry needs to clean up the line between fact and fiction on reality shows.

    Lilly would have been fine on The Voice, which does not seem to misrepresent so badly.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I totally see your point and agree with the “truth in advertising” issue, but what we don’t know is if Nicole/Lillie has any control over how her backstory is portrayed on the show. It could be that the contract that all of the contestants sign gives all of the control to the producers (Simon) and that is where any responsibility lies in this issue. It’s much more of a “cinderella story” to portary Lillie/Nicole in the way that has been done, than to reveal the truth.

  • Sassycatz

    I think there are sadder things in the world.

    As for reality television — that is also a competition with a prize at the end of it — I just expect at least a modicum of honesty. Otherwise, the “contest” seems pretty phony. In 13 seasons of Idol, I think we definitely found people who were really toiling at a lower level, if at all. Very few had had big breaks which made Idol their second or third big break.

    Sometimes, I think, with these people who have had a number of other opportunities, the bottom line is … they just don’t have star power, i.e., the “it” factor that this show calls the “X” factor and even if they get on the show, it’s usually why they don’t win.

  • elliegrll

    There was a parody tv show about the X Factor that aired in the UK, but it wasn’t as much of a parody as the real show. I think that’s been one of the reasons why the XF has failed to catch on in the US, too often it feels like a parody of AI, or some SNL skit about American Idol.

    The funny thing is that I thought last night’s show was less scripted than any of the shows from the first two seasons.

  • Denise

    Oh, Simon, indeed. When will he realize that we ain’t stupid?

  • Not fit to print

    Melinda’s true story was told. Actually, it added to the incredible appeal of her voice.

  • Amy Beth

    I’m torn about this. I’d like to believe that the viewing public knows that the music business is tough. That overnight success isn’t a real thing. That people would find Lillie/Nicole’s struggles more compelling than “suburban grandmother decides to sing”.

    But then I read posts here and on other sites where people rage that so-and-so already “had their chance”. About unfair it is for people with experience to compete on a show like this.

    So I don’t know. Does the show think the audience is stupid or unfortunately, is it?

  • Not fit to print

    A contestant who has connections to a judge or the producer represents a conflict of interest, though. On SYTYCD, the judges step down for a season if one of their dancers participates. Idol disqualified a singer in the Top 30 in season 8 because she had a connection to one of the producers:

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/joanna-pacitti-out-felicia-barton-in-somethings-not-right-with-foxs-press-release.htm

    This is really about the integrity of X Factor and what kind of show it aims to be. A somewhat credible talent contest or pure entertainment.

  • Nedsdag

    DAMN! I remember “Don’t You Want My Love.” Well, if it’s good enough for The Voice, then hell, it’s good enough for The X Factor.

  • Amy Beth

    Paradoxically, if X Factor ever becomes as big as Simon wants it to be, it would be a thing. During Idol’s golden years, it was front page news in the general media.

  • Denise

    To me, the “raging” isn’t about the singer as much as it is about the show’s dishonesty. I don’t care if a singer has had a shot at it before. I loved Carly Smithson and Michael Johns despite the much undeserved backlash. But the show needs to be upfront about it. Lilli/Nicole will now get the backlash. It’s Simon who deserves it.

  • chillj

    Well, yeah, there is some question how much each contestant knows about how they will be portrayed/edited. But people who are misrepresented should immediately work to correct the misrepresentations, especially in a media environment where being found out is so likely.

    The show may appreciate the press, good or bad, but the contestant will suffer. I didn’t see in the comments of the daughter that Lilly had a problem with how she was presented. I think The Voice would have served this singer better; everyone expects pros there.

  • anna

    I think your mom did a fabulous job tonight!!! As a mom myself we make the choice to choose our children and their wants, and wishes over ourselves…That is what a great mother does.

  • Montavilla

    I don’t have a problem with her having experience. I have a problem with her having experience and pretending that she doesn’t. If that’s the case. I’m only going by what I’m reading here, since I didn’t watch the show last night.

  • http://misslolasays.com Miss Lola

    If you’re a recording artist, then you know it’s a hustle job. To do what you love singing is no different than it is for an accountant. I love the idea of second chances. I’m happy for this woman even Stacy. Oh and they did say the man accompanying her to the auditions was her fiance Terrance.

  • B. Kennedy

    you people with your negative comments need to read the rules of the competition! people are not excluded just because they had previous recording contracts. the rules state that they cannot be signed at the time of their audition. everyone on that panel knew exactly who she was because they had her paper work in front of them. this woman auditioned because she still has something to offer the world.
    as for the “lies” at no point did she or the judges lie! she basically said in the past she was more focused on her family which doesn’t mean she never sang to pay the bills and feed her children. i’m pretty sure if each contestant was given a 30 minute spot she would have told her entire story BUT for the sake of time they cut her short.
    as for it not being reality tv, not sure where y’all are getting that from. it’s a singing competition not a reality tv show. it’s not big brother or survivor. it’s the modern version of star search.
    I actually hope she wins so she can get the recognition that she’s due. we need artist that can blow us away. i’m glad she’s polished and refined and that she has a wonderful stage presence. it’s a breath of fresh air and a welcomed change!
    so for those of you who don’t the like her and I have to say is “DON’T HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME!” she didn’t make up the rules, she just followed them. this is why reading the rules of the competition is very important lest you end up disappointed.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Most of general public won’t know or even care to know about her previous experience.

    People at home who aren’t reading online won’t know the difference. It was true of Idol, even when the show was at it’s peak, and it’s true now.

    So what? That’s not my point.

    My point is, that if I hadn’t written about it, somebody else would have. And the family (who are overreacting big time to my article) would have someone else to bitch at.

  • CityGirl

    Don’t think she billed herself as a gospel singer – she just sang a gospel song BEAUTIFULLY!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I would hazard a guess that the name change (maybe the singer’s real name, or a middle name) was to downplay her experience.

    Yeah, that suggests that the contestant was trying to avoid being recognized.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Actually, if Lillie intentionally changed her name to Nicole, then that does suggest that she was trying to avoid recognition and in favor of the deception.

  • ptslittlecomment

    Do not watch this show, but is this the same person as Rachel Potter, who my friends who used to be on Broadway say is a Broadway diva not a bartender in Nashville?

  • AtlDane

    I thought she was amazing. She gave me chills and I had tears in my eyes. To me that is all that matters. She gave me happiness. I never understand why people want to bring others down or “expose” them. I wish the best for everyone. I can’t wait to hear her sing again. I don’t care about her past. I don’t care if she had a song in the ’90′s. I care that she makes me pause and listen and feel joy. It would be nice if others concentrated on that instead of announcing negative things or dissing her.

  • AtlDane

    Then quit watching. It’s that simple.

  • Sassycatz

    I thought I would give the show a try since I’m not Cowell’s biggest fan and have stayed away from most of the last two season’s shows. However, thank you for giving me permission to skip this year as well. ;-)

    That being said, it’s not like people have to watch a show on TV to comment on it. Lots of little videos and recaps are here and elsewhere.

  • B. Kennedy

    don’t bother posting comments that prove that these people don’t understand how the competition works because they will just delete them in order to get you to agree with them.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    What do you mean that “these people don’t understand how the competition works”?

  • Laverne Washington

    Just because Ms. McCloud attempted to have a singing career 20+ years ago does not disqualify her from the X Factor. According to the rules, as long as you are not signed to label or obligated to anyone like a manager, you can still apply or audition.

  • Guest2

    People are deceived and are still grateful and justifiyng. Sad world.

  • danzepepper

    they don’t look that mush alike. The nose is different the mole is missing. or I have a bad video feed

  • A_K_A

    Keep in mind Paul Potts and Susan Boyle werent the typical young teen superstar types. Both were fugly, older peeps who did British Got Talent and ended up selling millions with major recording deals. So it does happen.. I doubt your mom will be singing tweener songs on an album. Every genre of music has their superstar. You just have to be the best at that niche and you get the success. Point blank.

  • A_K_A

    I wonder what LA Reid thinks seeing that he was the one that signed her 20yrs ago and he was a former xfactor judge. Hmmm.. srusly wonder what are his thoughts on her appearing again 2 decades later. Epic records then and now are both headed by Reid. Hmmm 2.0.

  • A_K_A

    They said the MJ part for Judith Hill.. WHY?? For ratings!! They know by saying MJ peeps will keep tuning in… whereas Sasha hasnt sang for big names like MJ.

  • Bruno Silveira Renê Varas

    I don’t see any problem in someone how made a LITTLE sucess in the past, jut to try again. About the name, probably she wanna restart again… After raise her children, and makes her part with mom.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Most people don’t. It’s the fact that the show felt a need to obfuscate the truth,to present her as something she isn’t that most have a problem with.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    No one disputed that Nicole/Lillie is eligible to be on the X-Factor, according to their rules. The issue is that there was an attempt to deceive regarding how experienced Nicole/Lillie was in the music industry.

  • sal

    I watched the show and Lillie was FABULOUS. She made me cry and that is the making of a superstar..not someone strutting on stage in her underwear. This woman can actually SING and I’m 60 and have never heard of her. She deserves a chance just like anyone else.

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  • MICHELLE BATTLE

    WHY SPOIL A GOOD SHOW W/ RINGERS

  • MICHELLE BATTLE

    IF U EVER RECEIVED A PENNY OR RECOG IN THE MUSIC WORLD, THEN U R A FRUAD

  • IngeC

    It would have been better had X-Factor revealed the truth but, emphasized that after a long pause and, due to raising her kids-she is still going strong, taking another chance at 54. That would have made the ‘good’ headlines. Society as a whole write people over 50+ off as seniors etc…!
    Hopefully, the show comes clean and, let Nicole have her shot at stardom.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Why? The rules of the show are clear: You can audition, as long as you don’t have a CURRENT recording contract. That’s all that matters.

  • chloe18

    I’m super late but I had no idea Fantasia’s cousins were in Jodeci.

  • Janice Mays

    Nicole, be true to yourself fame isn’t everything if it’s base on untruths. We love good voices and music. Leave the drama out. Love you!

  • Aj Ajibola Eunice Olukeyede Og

    I agree with you

  • mimi

    Košice, a small village in Slovakia…???? Košice are second biggest town in Slovakia but never mind….

  • B. Kennedy

    has they not deleted my comment you’d understand what i meant. but they deleted my comment and where i posted the rules. i’m done with this blog. i’m not for bloggers who delete comments that don’t agree with theirs and who point out how they shoot from the hip without knowing the rules of the competition. sorry….

  • B. Kennedy

    oh and i hope you hurry up and read this comment before they delete it also!

  • Dávid Garaj

    Košice is not small village. In 2013, it holds the European Capital of Culture title together with Marseille, France.

  • Randy

    Your Mom was Awesome, she should not feel the need to hide her past, not sure if that’s what she did, but it’s the present that counts and she will be heard now that’s for sure. I loved her performance and can’t wait to hear her again

  • yellowdogdemocrat

    Franklin lives just across the creek from me in Arlington Tx. I used to walk in his neighborhood but now you have to live in there to get through the security gate.

    I met him once. We talked about religion and he tried to convert me from Atheism. Didn’t work. :D

  • yellowdogdemocrat

    I don’t know Underwood’s backstory but I do know Clarkson’s because I live 15 miles from her hometown of Burleson Tx. She competed in some local talent shows but that was all until she auditioned for Idol.

    I don’t care for her politics and I remember how she basically brushed off the First Family last 4th of July but she’s earned everything she’s got now without any prior experience in the music industry.

  • Sharon Beitz

    Rayne, I never heard of your mother before seeing her in this competition. Had she been sufficiently famous, I would have, and
    so would everyone else. Perhaps she feared that whatever experience she
    had would hinder her chances; perhaps the producers downplayed it with
    the editing. I don’t know. But I do know that she is NOT that
    well-known. I know that I have NEVER seen a 54-year-old that looks that
    good, and that your mother is an astounding singer. If she needs the
    show to further her career, I say — more power to her. This is REAL
    talent, not just a talentless tool of the industry to rob the public of
    their money, as seems to be the standard these days. Good luck to her,
    and to all of you. Hugs.

  • Maria Tofangsaz Fadda

    who cares what every body says YOUR MOM CAN SING WHAT AN AMAZING VOICE :) can’t wait till she records that song Alabaster Box never heard it before beautifull

  • Terri Knoll

    did Simon say he had never heard that song before? he has now :) It’s worth it.

  • F R A N Z

    Comment for Ms. Lillie Nicole MCcloud

    For me its Humility. She’s humble enough not to ”shout out” her past career. It’s arrogant to tell the public ”hey I’m not just a mother of 3 kids, I’m a superstar before with billboard hits! blah blah blah..” but I just don’t care who she was. Her performance was heartfelt genuine. That’s Talent. That’s real Music. Nowadays music have no emotions in them..just pure stupid lyrics. That kind of music will fade in time.

    For ms. Lilie/Nicole MCcloud, I am moved by the way you sing. So full of passion, the gesture, the attitude, your voice..that is a true blooded musician.

    If Whitney is alive she would be so proud of having another black mama who will give the world what music is all about.

    With that kind of talent that can touch people’s heart..she deserves a million chance.

    Enough with the bullshits people..let’s just get back to work.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • Guest

    fuck…you admin deleted my comment!

  • F R A N Z

    Her name is Lillie Nicole MCcloud her twitter:
    @LillieNicoleMc

  • F R A N Z

    Comment for Ms. Lillie Nicole MCcloud..

    For me its Humility. She’s humble enough not to ”shout out” her past career. It’s arrogant to tell the public ”hey I’m not just a mother of 3 kids, I’m a superstar before with billboard hits! blah blah blah..” but I just don’t care who she was. Her performance was heartfelt genuine. That’s Talent. That’s real Music. Nowadays music have no emotions in them..just pure stupid lyrics. That kind of music will fade in time.

    For ms. Lilie/Nicole MCcloud, I am moved by the way you sing. So full of passion, the gesture, the attitude, your voice..that is a true blooded musician.

    If Whitney is alive she would be so proud of having another black mama who will give the world what music is all about.

    With that kind of talent that can touch people’s heart..she deserves a million chance.

    Enough with the bullshits people..let’s just get back to work.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • Sandra Montisci

    Hi Rayne McCloud, Has your Mom, Nicole (aka Lillie) McCloud got an official website and Facebook personal and/or fan page? I’ve heard your Mom twice on X Factor USA and I want to listen more, to buy her music. I believe that she is one of the best singers of the past 30 years. Up there with the best vocalists e.g. Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Gladys Knight, Gloria Gaynor, Diana Ross etc. Regards, Sandra, London, UK

  • Zak Holman

    What is your point … You should go on stage of X-Factor and show us how good you are LOL …

  • Zak Holman

    Lillie McCloud is loud in nowadays no question about it. She is also pretty HOT even in her age. Btw … Have I mention, that she is a fabulous singer?