Tuesday Ratings: Idol Remains Steadyish (Did not beat The Voice)

Ratings are in from TVByTheNumbers

A two hour American Idol led Fox to the ratings win on Tuesday, as Fox had the highest rated Tuesday night among adults 18-49 for any network this season. Idol’s 5.0 adults 18-49 rating was a tenth below last Wednesday’s Idol telecast (but continues well below last season’s ratings), expect that typical finals adjustments will eliminate that gap.

Final ratings for The Voice on Monday were  a 5.4/14  adults 18-49 rating and 14.890M viewers. The Voice beat them in the demo, but not in viewers.   I was hoping, with the live shows beginning, Idol’s numbers would raise this week.  Last night’s show was weak.  I am now officially worried for Idol

8:00PM

CBS NCIS 3.4 9 18.013
FOX American Idol (8-10p) 5.0 13 15.835
ABC Last Man Standing 2.1 6 7.375
NBC The Biggest Loser (8-10p) 2.0 5 5.688
CW Hart Of Dixie -R 0.3 1 0.893

8:30PM

ABC Cougar Town 1.5 4 4.296

9:00PM

CBS NCIS: Los Angeles 3.1 8 15.668
ABC The River 1.5 4 4.088
CW Ringer 0.4 1 1.106

10:00PM

CBS Unforgettable 1.9 5 9.931
NBC Parenthood 1.9 5 5.134
ABC Body Of Proof 1.3 4 6.749

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  • itsalleternal

    Considering Idol did not have a negative externality that The Voice had to contend with (the Daytona 500), they shouldn’t be happy. Just wait until Idol has to put up with tougher competition.

  • http://twitter.com/mcdeallover Sunny Mc

    Those numbers make me sad. There seems to be an overload of singing competions right now.  I wonder what will happen to The Voice’s numbers when DWTs starts.

  • Anonymous

    Not surprised at the numbers. It’s still pretty good numbers. Idol was on a different night. It was up against a new NCIS show which usually has about 18 million total viewers. The guys were pretty bad as a whole. 

    I’m more interested in how it does tonight. It’s their normal night. If the girls do a great job, then ratings could increase since these are live shows.

  • Anonymous

    The Voice will have to contend with DWTS in a few weeks. DWTS starts when The Voice has it’s battle rounds which usually has lower ratings. DWTS still averages 15 million total viewers. So both shows will have tough competition.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    I just remembered I hadn’t posted these figures.  Sorry about that mj.

    All I can say about these AI ratings is that it’s clear the show is showing it’s age, as with any show that has ever been on as long as AI has, and the lack of a buzzworthy cast.

    It will be interesting to see what happens with tomorrow’s ratings as far as the females go.
     

  • Anonymous

    I’m really interested to see what happens ratings-wise once The Voice moves past the blind auditions.  I also know a lot of people that had no idea Idol was even on last night.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002755246724 Jake Cruz

    One season and just a few episodes in it’s second season,  I never thought this day, where newbie show The Voice beats Idol, would come this soon.  I equally enjoy watching both shows, really, but this recent news makes me really worried for the show I’ve loved for years.  :(

  • Anonymous

    I would call NCIS some tough competition.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NO4G73GL7KDSP4K3ERYEZJ5FYY Joseph

    Lol… the concern trolling is noted. I guess Idol should pack up shop even though they are still the number one show on FOX television….

    Adjust, people. The show’s been on for a decade. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Just enjoy the show.

  • Anonymous

    I think the move to Tuesday had some to do with it. I’m worried though. The ratings were doing ok until the Vegas episode. I think tonight’s and tomorrows ratings will be the real test. There is a rerun of TBBT so that’s promising news for Thursday.

    Even if it does turn out to be another Season 9, they can do a clean sweep of the panel and hope they find another Season 10 cast.

  • Kirsten

    Last year, the Top 12 Boys night had a 5% drop from the previous Wednesday.

    There were a lot more viewers, though. Yes, NCIS is very tough competition. It’s the highest rated non-Reality show out there (3rd non-sports show behind AI-W and AI-T)

  • BAPC

    There was literally nothing on last night so I put on idol for a few minutes… I felt like I was in 2002. The set, the look, the format is all so dated. And the talent was terrible. I think idol is on it’s last leg.

  • tommy

    For the first time in years, I was bored watching AI last night.  I didn’t think any or the performances were worthy of a stage.  I would send them all packing and start with the girls.  Let’s hope tonight is better.  And I agree, the judging is pathetic.  Useless, worthless.  Love JLo and Steven, but if they can’t hand out criticism they don’t need to be there.  

  • Anonymous

    Being on it’s last leg would mean it fell from being the number 1 show on fox and continuing to finish last each night.

    I actually liked the new set.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Knott/563794735 Cathy Knott

    Well as for The Voice I don’t think they will lose a lot of viewers during the battlerounds. It definitely won’t be as boring as last night was on Idol.
    On top of it there will be Kelly Clarkson and I am positive she will encourage
    a few Idol fans to come over to the darkside.

    As for the girls tonight.  I’m not sure how talented they are since I really didn’t watch the auditions and very little of the Hollywood weeks.  I just find it amazing that the only good singers that they could find were all white, brunnette or blonde and petite.  I guess heavy women, women of colour and minorities just don’t have the potential that these women do.  Mind you The Voice and X Factor seemed to have found some.  Hummmmmm

  • Da 1 N Only

    Would love to see a music preference/racial breakdown of the ratings this season compared to last season compared to season 3.  I always thought that Idol’s decision to cast less soulful singers going instead for the country/indie artists would’ve impacted their ratings sooner.  
    Now that alternatives exist in X-Factor & The Voice who are showcasing these singers (Javier, Melanie Amaro, etc.) I wonder if AI has lost this segment of their audience. I see a lot more complaints about AI’s lack of diversity this season, at least on the girls side.

  • Hazehel

     I think the move to Tuesday had some to do with it. 

    Yes, people are used to Wednesday and Thursday, so many people would have missed the Tuesday show.  The ratings for today’s show when the girls perform should be higher .
    I see a problem for the future episodes though.  There way the season is going is problematic.  The people destined to go into the finals aren’t interesting enough to keep people watching,  I could be one of those not staying the course for this season.  The ratings will probably go up a bit for the start of the finals, then drop again.  The producers have fucked up the season.   It’s season 9 all over again. 

  • Anonymous

    Classic case of The Old vs The New.  Will just have to see if The New has the longevity.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    I know I am getting ahead of everything here, but I do wonder how long all four judges on The Voice will remain committed to the show. Once there is a shakeup there, I don’t think that the chemistry will be the same, and may affect that show more than changes in personnel have had an effect on Idol.

    I’ve never watched NCIS. What is it’s particular appeal? We talk about over-saturation of singing contests, but haven’t we seen detective/police/investigative dramas flooding the channels for many more years? It just makes me curious, probably because I am not a viewer, as to why this show is so immensely popular when I feel like maybe the general premise has been done before.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    These singers may be getting showcased on the competitive shows, but at least in Javier’s case, the music isn’t selling.

  • Anonymous

    One of the disturbing things about the drop is that last year’s episode was only one hour, and aired at 8pm.  

    The plan may have been to put the weaker performances first, and that might make sense in a typical two hour show, but since they are trying to draw viewers in, and given how dull the season has been so far, they should have mixed things up.

    AI can’t do anything about a contestant choking or over singing, but they can do something about giving them crappy songs.  I don’t know who thought it was a good idea to make a 16 or 17 year old sing Reasons and attempt a falsetto all the way through.  Or, why some of the contestants weren’t urged to do something up tempo.

    I still say the problem is pointless judges, who have been pointless all season and last season, and a dull group of performers.  When the first interesting contestant doesn’t happen until 12th person that’s a problem.

  • Anonymous

    Last year’s episode was two hours.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and there is no way they could fit 12 performances in one hour!

  • tinawina

    In the context of hoping idol halts the audience erosion at a strong place, these are not good. Of course we need to see how the rest of the week plays out, but this is not a great sign.

    It’s still a huge show but what I was looking for was some indication it could stay strong for the rest of the year. It’s up to the girls to put some life into this tonight.

  • Anonymous

    I am waiting for tonight show to pass a judgement on the season. With lame judges and uninspiring male contestants, the girls have better be really really good!

  • Anonymous

    The biggest problem as I see it is proven in everyones comments.  Sit back , enjoy the show for what it is.  Great entertainment (what else you gonna watch and complain about), amateur singers proving they are amatuers, what does everyone expect?  TOO MUCH! If you don’t like it don’t watch…and if the judges were criticizing and they criticized the wrong contestant you all would gripe about that.  Death is when the viewers drop to below 10,000 and demo in the 3’s. It will be a sad day if Idol goes off the air.  I may not like all the contestants and sometimes wonder why they put certain people through but it is fun to watch them improve week to week and see an unknown rise to the top!  By the way, I liked the Xfactor and I love the Voice so there can be all 3 coexisting.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JC5VIWKY7SZ67OVWR2ISVCWYKY Brian

    I think we really need to stop calling them judges and start calling them cheerleaders, which is far more appropriate. 

    Also, I think The Voice is MUCH better early in the season than Idol, because their auditions are more exciting with the setup they have and the fact that they invite people to audition who are mostly better and have already usually had a chance in the business but has slipped through. 

    I don’t like the battle rounds though….it kind of is at odds with the whole “team”
    concept that you have to battle someone on your own team.  For example, I like a bunch of people on Adam’s team, so I started pulling for the best people NOT to make his team so they wouldn’t have to battle each other.

    Idol usually hits their stride once they get into the finals, and as long as their are enough good singers that people like and people start to see great performances and get a more vested interest in the contestants, I think Idol will rise back up to be ahead of the Voice.

    But of course it simply comes down to how good the contestants are.  We know which show has better judges or cheerleaders.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with idol is proven with all of your comments.  You expect too much from these people their first time live and you want the judges to criticize until they do and then you will gripe about that.  These are amateurs for the most part, not people who have been doing gigs for a living and I am certain they were nervous last night.  The best part about this show is watching everyone improve as the season goes on.  If you don’t like it don’t watch but stop complaining about every dang thing you see and enjoy the show for what it is …entertainment and the  best entertainment on tv besides maybe the voice.

  • Kesia Monteith

    Hmm…well that isn’t good. They didn’t miss much, though.

  • Anonymous

    Some people don’t want to admit that the quality of the judges do impact how fun the show is. JLo, Randy, and Steven are terrible. Everyone is amazing to them, so as a viewer when you see something that is literally horrible *cough*Eben*cough* and they gush over it, it leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DUYLLXAZRMK46UVYXKNE26FFJY Paul

    The Voice will initially be interesting for people until the Battle Rounds. That is where they lost me as a viewer as I couldn’t see the point of two people singing a song that weren’t equally matched for the tone. The voting at the end was a turn off as well. 

    Of course, the instant cut to the top 13 isn’t impressive either. When they dropped 2 girls and 2 guys each week at least you got invested with singers more. It also helped to establish who the stronger talent was as well. Now, you have to guess based on a single performance who your standout favorite is and pray they make it through. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIHKL34XDORTS2UZP4SWUUTG3U randi

    I know I am getting ahead of everything here, but I do wonder how long all four judges on The Voice will remain committed to the show. Once there is a shakeup there, I don’t think that the chemistry will be the same, and may affect that show more than changes in personnel have had an effect on Idol.

    I actually think one of the main problems with idol is the change in judges.  Randy, Jlo and Steven have no chemistry and on top of that they can’t even give honest critiques of the performances.  Everyone is wonderful, Amazing, Born stars, etc etc.  The audience watches these performances and then hears their comments and it’s a total WTF moment.  The integrity of the show has been compromised (what little integrity it had) and I think people are tuning out because of it. 

  • http://twitter.com/Justin_J9 Justin

    Voice is idol’s biggest competitor and vice versa. 

    NCIS might have a lot of old viewers advertisers don’t care about, but they get barely a 3 rating.

    Idol is bleeding in 18-48 demo (by 40% this year?) which is a disaster for a show claiming they want to create pop stars. And it has nothing to do with NCIS and everything to do with people having a possibility for the first time ever to watch a strong alternative on TV.

  • Anonymous

    The reason NCIS is so popular is because the actors and the characters they play are so likable.The plots are not great but no one cares. It’s the interaction of the characters that people love and that’s the key to a successful TV show. 

  • Anonymous

    Not only are The Voice’s judge’s relevant, but they are relatable in today’s music industry.  I mean, I don’t have to go to Wikipedia to know that Adam Levine is Maroon 5’s frontman, or that Blake Shelton is a very current country singer or that Christina is one of the power houses behind Lady Marmalade.  Certainly, all of Idol’s judges today can say, “I’ve been there in some capacity, so I’m familiar with what it’s all about,” but the Voice judges just to seem to bear witness with the younger audience.

    Idol wants to appeal to today’s younger generation, so they’re going to have to pull in names that relate to who young people know and can identify with *right now.*

  • Anonymous

    It’s not just about changing judges. You can be positive like they are on The Voice, but actually critique what is wrong. When someone didn’t hit half the notes in the song, don’t tell them they’re the best thing ever.
     
    Then someone who has a genuinely good performance, like Phillip Phillip, tell him everything that was wrong. Makes no sense. They did the same thing to Haley last year. And I don’t even care for Philx2 because of his WGWG-ness, but he didn’t deserve critiques when everyone else got none.

  • Anonymous

    The Voice > American Idol.

    Although The Voice is getting to the part where it begins to lose me, I think it’ll probably replace Idol in terms of how seriously I view it. I like the judges better there, there’s no really bad singing, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Until the voice can say they have found a Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson, I’m not going to call the voice better. Their auditions are better, but their battlerounds and overall talent are not.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the majority of opinion I see here, that this incompetent judging is hurting Idol.  When you considered the not small fortune they get paid for damaging the integrity of the show, it makes it even worse.  

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that all of AI’s problems are related to the age of the show, or have anything to do with their competition.  People told them the changes that needed to be made last year, for example, not giving every contestant a tongue bath, but the producers didn’t address these issues.  The ratings were going to fall, and the show was going to lose some viewers because of the X Factor and Voice, but the producers messed up from the start with an audition round that made no sense.  As Kirsten said when they aired, it was like watching  documentaries about people who we don’t know.  

    I can’t help but wonder if someone is trying to sabotage the show, because what other explanation can there be for ripping off the X Factor’s stunt of bringing someone back.  None of the people who could have been brought back would have meant as much to the show, or been as shocking as Simon bringing back Melanie.  Unlike the four AI guys, Melanie was a big part of the XF’s promotion, she was a frontrunner, and Simon not casting her was a big deal.  

    I can’t explain why given season 9 is this cast so bland.  Why do we have so many people who sing the same, and whose styles are so similar.  It’s about casting, so why not feature and cast people from all different genres.  Why cast people who are trying to be something that they are not, like Reed trying to be the cabaret guy, or copy Casey Abrahms and Taylor Hicks, but trying too hard and failing spectacularly.  

  • Anonymous

    snap… idol includes “indie” artists for the first time. interesting. now waiting to hear (as I rarely watch) which episode J-Lo joins a contestant on stage in an “impromptu.” (since Christina did so monday night). 

    and, for all the hate for voice contestants (plants) from the moderator, also intersting how idol “re-cycles” talent from one season to the next. Last night was really sad.  

    Watched idol last season (for the first time since Clarkson was crowned) specifically for Lauren Alaina, as she lives down the road and I have seen her perform prior. After a lackluster show Tuesday, I remember why I stopped watching altogether. 

  • Anonymous

    agree. maybe philip recieved an actual critique because he is the only contestant who is any good. constructive criticism serves a purpose when it is constructive, not when it is malicious or… personal. Voice judges are specific about pitch, register, etc. This makes each of them more credible, in my opinion.  

  • Anonymous

     

    Why do we have so many people who sing the same, and whose styles are so similar.

    You keep saying this, and I have asked you three times what you mean, but you never explain. What style is similar between Joshua, Colton, Phillip, Heejun, Erika, Jessica, Elise, Skylar, Aaron, Chase, Creighton, Hollie etc? What is this style that they all have?

  • Hazehel

    I can’t help but wonder if someone is trying to sabotage the show, 

    I don’t know if someone is trying to sabotage it, but I do think that Fox execs do want the X-Factor to become next big thing which can replace Idol because Idol is an aging show.  Except that X-Factor didn’t quite catch fire (it did fine, but just not anywhere near Idol).  Now The Voice is threatening to be the one that replace Idol, and Fox now has a problem with the possibility of Idol failing and X-Factor not catching on.   The drop for Idol is much steeper than I had expected, X-Factor might have shortened the shelf-life of Idol considerably,  there is a possibility that one of the shows will go after a year or two.    

  • Incipit

    “maybe philip recieved an actual critique because he is the only contestant who is any good. “

    Wait. What? We just trudged through all those weeks of auditions, and they rejected so many guys, just to pick this “Best Evah” Top 13 Guys- and only one of them is any good?

    Maybe so. Aside from the subjective item that I wouldn’t pick Phillip as the good one. Maybe that’s exactly what happened. Idol in the Twilight Zone.

  • Tera2

    Idol ratings is a bit down but The Voice got a big lead in from Super bowl huge ratings.  And there are many of this singing shows now and people can only watch so much before they have enough. The voice suit those who only watch this shows like just entertainment like a reality show, cause of the bickering judges and the turn around game show chairs – whereas idol is still like a serious talent show that wants to discover talents who can be recording artists, and that’s why I prefer it over others. 

    I think production of idol has been good this year and the Vegas round was just as entertaining as the live shows.  I don’t think Nigel is trying to sabotage idol like someone said.  In fact he makes idol more of a priority than his show “So you think you can dance”, and he even preferred idol to win award before that show.  I think Nigel is doing his job fine.  Its the judges who need to make sure there are few marketable contestants to keep the show credible as being able to discover stars.  Its more important to me for a show to find real stars that can be a force on the charts and showbiz in general the way Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, and Jennifer Hudson have. 

    I’ve watched idol since day one but if the show doesn’t produce major stars and they are doing mediocre sales and getting dropped by labels, I start feeling less enthusiastic about rooting for the show and its contestants, and some are gonna feel the same too, and it will affect ratings, along with over saturation of talent shows – but I’m still a fan of the show and will continue to watch to the end.  I’d rather idol be around and The voice and X-factor cancelled.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    Here are AI’s final adjusted ratings from tvbythenumbers.

    American Idol, NCIS, Last Man Standing, Body Of Proof and Cougar Town were each adjusted up a tenth of a ratings point with adults 18-49 versus Tuesday’s preliminary ratings.

    8:00PM FOX American Idol (8-10p) 5.1 13 16.11

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIHKL34XDORTS2UZP4SWUUTG3U randi

    Until the voice can say they have found a Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson, I’m not going to call the voice better. Their auditions are better, but their battlerounds and overall talent are not.

    I think this is the attitude that the idol producers have too and that is called resting on your laurels and it’s a sure path to destruction.  Idol did nothing extraordinary to “find” Kelly or Carrie.  They happened to audition and they connected with the public, not because of something magical that idol did but because of who they are as performers. 

    The Voice attracts high caliber vocalists/artists but so far they haven’t found that one that will connect on the same level as Kelly or Carrie.  That’s just luck and it’s not something that they can “make” happen. 

  • Anonymous

    I enjoyed your post.  I never reflected on the role luck played in finding someone with real star potential for idol.  It is obviously a rare commodity because after ten years, we only have two superstars and a handful doing fairly well in the next tier down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cathy-Knott/563794735 Cathy Knott

    the judges are only following Nigel’s direction.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he also has his hand in who makes it to the top 13.   Last year he tried to manipulate the show so Lauren would win.  He didn’t count on Scotty having the fanbase that he had.  He allowed the judges to go after Hayley and it was his show that had the vocal doctor coming out dressed in scrubs to announce that Lauren could sing but she was so sick. 

  • Listening

    The voice has found contestants that have connected with the public on the par of a what 8th to 10th place American Idol finisher has achived if not an even lower finisher. So you don’t even need to bring up Carrie and Kelly.

    Now this second season lets see if they can package their contestants any better. So far the only one I can remember and am interested in is Lindsey Pavao, the girl that sang Say Ahh. I actually still listen to her audition song on youtube. The thing I love about the voice are the judges’ interactions Blake and Adam are hilarious and too cute. I also love the recent snipes Blake has had w/ Christina about going fishing. You can tell that they really enjoy each others company. It doesn’t feel staged or desperate like it does when JLo, Steven and Randy interact.

    Also I think  Idol will be fine so it wont be king of the ratings anymore it will still be pretty close and after 11 seasons that’s a good thing. Also I still thing it’s alumni will have the best results even if you ignore Carrie and Kelly’s mega success.

  • Anonymous

    snap… idol includes “indie” artists for the first time.

    I know Randy said that last night…but it’s simply not true. Jason Castro and Brooke White from Season 7 are both what I would consider “singer/songwriter” type artists. Season 9 was full of Indie types, including Crystal Bowersox who was marketed to AAA radio. The Voice is not  some sort of “innovator” in that regard.

  • Anonymous

    I read a lot about how Nigel’s manipulations have hurt Idol.  What I do not understand is what is in it for him if he hurts the show?  There is no doubt that he wants the show to be successful.  Is it just that he thinks he has such great taste and a figure so in touch with the public’s pulse that he can’t let the show unfold honestly and organically.  Is it all about his giant, often mistaken ego?

  • too-cool-for-school

    I think Nigel is extra loopy this season and it definitely is having its consequences. The days of his ‘twists’ and ‘surprises’ are over. We have all had our fill of the gimmicks and his sensationalist tweets, but he either doesn’t realize that or is just blatantly ignoring it. Or maybe he is panicking because of the ratings and being irrational, but I sorta think it’s all calculated. [[shrug]]

    He’s also still under this delusion that Idol is sooooo much better than its competition (The Voice, AGT, X Factor, etc) and at one time I would have agreed. Slowly but surely my support has been coming undone, though.

    The Voice thus far has hit the ground running in season two and Idol has done little to nothing right. X Factor was a mess, but I was still generally engaged with it all the way through. For Idol to prompt such a snooze-reaction from its diehard fans is a really bad sign. I think Nigel is mostly to blame, along with our uninspired ‘judging’ panel. :/

  • larc

    I read a lot about how Nigel’s manipulations have hurt Idol.  What I do
    not understand is what is in it for him if he hurts the show?

    Of course Nigel doesn’t want to hurt Idol.  But he seems to believe he’s a much more astute idea man than he actually is.  What I can’t understand is why FOX doesn’t have some truly creative types around who could help steer the program – and Nigel – in a more successful way.  It’s almost like they are trying almost any wild idea that comes up in hopes of turning things around.  That’s a sure recipe for shark jumping.

  • Da 1 N Only

    [quote]The voice has found contestants that have connected with the public on the par of a what 8th to 10th place American Idol finisher has achived if not an even lower finisher. So you don’t even need to bring up Carrie and Kelly. [/quote]

    True but I don’t see it as a talent issue but a format issue that The Voice has got to fix if they want their winners to do well post show. Last year the winner of “The Voice” Javier Colon did a total of 7 songs (only 6 were judged & there was a huge gap between the first 3). Only 4 of those were solo, the other 3 was with his battle round contender, his coach, & his finale singing partner. He was also up for public vote only twice.

    By comparison, Idol’s contestants will be seen that many times by the Top 11 at the latest.

  • Anonymous

    What happened to the other 20 million people that used to watch?  They have lives?  Makes me feel guilty I’m one of the 15 million remaining.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    I don’t know if someone is trying to sabotage it, but I do think that Fox execs do want the X-Factor to become next big thing which can replace Idol because Idol is an aging show. Except that X-Factor didn’t quite catch fire (it did fine, but just not anywhere near Idol). Now The Voice is threatening to be the one that replace Idol, and Fox now has a problem with the possibility of Idol failing and X-Factor not catching on. The drop for Idol is much steeper than I had expected, X-Factor might have shortened the shelf-life of Idol considerably, there is a possibility that one of the shows will go after a year or two.

    Exactly, FOX screwed themselves over the way NBC did trying to have both Conan and Jay. You can’t have both X Factor and Idol on the same network long-term and expect them both to be #1 overall and in the demo. I think a lot of people could have told FOX this before X Factor was ever on the air, but internet commenters don’t run TV networks.

    The question is, is FOX going to try to do something about Idol’s huge ratings slide now or have they already written off this season as a lost cause? I think if the network thought Idol could be saved this year we would be hearing about more changes behind the scenes than we are. Scripted shows replace executive producers during the season all the time, if the network thinks something isn’t working, yet I don’t get the sense that Nigel is worried about his job being in danger anytime soon.

    The Voice is lucky it’s on NBC and winning the singing show demo wars because haven’t its ratings slid with every episode? Yet the media at large have nothing but praise about its numbers. Obviously it wasn’t going to keep up its Super Bowl slot ratings but shouldn’t they have hit bottom 2-3 weeks ago and started to flatten and go back up a tenth or two?

  • too-cool-for-school

     I know exactly how you feel, LOL.

  • http://twitter.com/DorkAngel Goboywonder

    The Voice may not promote past contestants as Idol does, but I’ve yet to hear anyone from the show publicly diss past contestants. Idol has no problem with biting the hand that feeds them. ETA, or should I say the hands the feed them.

  • Anonymous

    I think other than being an aging institution, Idol has lost credibility. i know when Paula judged 2 of Jason’s performances when he had only sung once, that was a biggy. And when Kris A won over Adam and the whole ATT power voting scandal and the anti-Adam voting, that hurt the show too. And I think s9 was such a downer year because people were still upset over s8.  s10 had some genuinely good talent and we were eager to see what Steven Tyler and Jlo would be like and what the show would be like post Simon.  But we saw the new panel was toothless and this year we don’t expect much from them. If there is a little Idol fatigue, I think its the show’s own fault. I still love the falling in love with a contestant aspect of the show.  That is why I watch.  None of the other shows have made me do that so far.  

  • Anonymous

    well with the exception of a couple who didn’t get much screen time, I think most of the voting at this point is for established faves.  I only, for example, addedd Aaron Marcellus and Elise Testone to my voting pile.  Everyone else whom I voted for I already liked from the audition rounds.

  • judes

    Depends on your viewpoint – I loved the result from Season 8 & it didn’t effect my viewing of season 9 at all-loved Casey J & liked Crystal. 
    I agree with your comment on slowly bonding with contestants  on Idol. I just wish there was a more even showing of them .

  • Anonymous

    The Voice is my least favorite of the three singing competitions. It feels very manufactured to me.  The XFactor and Idol seem much more organic, and are about finding undiscovered talent, not plants. Also, the judges on the Voice annoy me…I think they’re much more egotistical than the judges on the other shows, but nobody seems to agree.

  • Anonymous

    okay. this is true. I have not watched idol for years, so I am only basing my comment on randy’s comment. Crystal Bowersox is fantastic.