American Idol is down. The ratings are still over 5, but for how long? And Glee is up–but against a re-run of “Person of Interest.” Although, Idol has to be a better lead in than the tepid X Factor.

Via TV By The Numbers

On FOX, American Idol  earned a 5.1 down 6% from last week’s 5.6 adults 18-49 rating. Glee returned to a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating up 35%  from a 2.0 for its most recent episode on December 13 when it followed The X Factor.

8:00

FOX American Idol 5.1/14 15.53
CBS The Big Bang Theory – R 3.1/9 11.50
NBC 30 Rock 1.4/4 3.84
CW The Vampire Diaries 1.3/4 2.74
ABC Last Resort – Series Finale 1.2/3 5.39

8:30

CBS Two and a Half Men -R 2.3/6 8.57
NBC Parks and Recreation 1.7/5 3.89

9:00

ABC Grey’s Anatomy 3.0/8 8.88
FOX Glee 2.7/7 6.90
NBC The Office 2.0/5 4.19
CBS Person Of Interest – R 1.9/5 10.00
CW Beauty And The Beast 0.7/2 1.82

9:30

NBC 1600 Penn 1.3/3 3.32

10:00

ABC Scandal – R 1.8/5 5.71
CBS Elementary – R 1.5/4 7.75
NBC Rock Center 0.8/2 3.73

Half Hour Breakdown via Marc Berman

8:00 p.m.

ABC – Last Resort (series finale)
Viewers: 5.74 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#5)

CBS – The Big Bang Theory (R)
Viewers: 11.49 million (#2), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#2)

NBC – 30 Rock
Viewers: 3.84 million (#4), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#3)

Fox – American Idol
Viewers: 14.48 million (#1), A18-49: 4.7/13 (#1)

CW – The Vampire Diaries
Viewers: 2.81 million (#5), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#4)

———-

8:30 p.m.

ABC – Last Resort (series finale)
Viewers: 5.05 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#5)

CBS – Two and a Half Men (R)
Viewers: 8.57 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#2)

NBC – Parks and Recreation
Viewers: 3.89 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#3)

Fox – American Idol
Viewers: 16.59 million (#1), A18-49: 5.5/15 (#1)

CW – The Vampire Diaries
Viewers: 2.66 million (#5), A18-49: 1.2/ 3 (#4)

———-

9:00 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 8.87 million (#2), A18-49: 3.0/ 8 (#1)

CBS – Person of Interest (R)
Viewers: 9.94 million (#1), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#4)

NBC – The Office
Viewers: 4.19 million (#4), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#3)

Fox – Glee
Viewers: 7.57 million (#3), A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#2)

CW – Beauty and the Beast
Viewers: 1.87 million (#5), A18-49: 0.7/ 2 (#5)

———-

9:30 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 8.88 million (#2), A18-49: 3.0/ 8 (#1)

CBS – Person of Interest (R)
Viewers: 10.06 million (#1), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#4)

NBC – 1600 Penn
Viewers: 3.32 million (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 3 (#4)

Fox – Glee
Viewers: 6.22 million (#3), A18-49: 2.4/ 6 (#2)

CW – Beauty and the Beast
Viewers: 1.76 million (#5), A18-49: 0.7/ 2 (#5)

———-

10:00 p.m.

ABC – Scandal (R)
Viewers: 6.04 million (#2), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#1)

CBS – Elementary (R)
Viewers: 8.01 million (#1), A18-49: 1.6/ 4 (#2)

NBC – Rock Center With Brian Williams
Viewers: 3.54 million (#3), A18-49: 0.9/ 2 (#3)

———-

10:30 p.m.

ABC – Scandal (R)
Viewers: 5.39 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#1)

CBS – Elementary (R)
Viewers: 7.49 million (#1), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#2)

NBC – Rock Center With Brian Williams
Viewers: 3.91 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#3)

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

 
  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I think part of why Idol was down was because it was only an hour show last night.  You’ll notice it picked up considerably at 8:30pm.  Either way, I still don’t think there is much to worry about as yet. 

  • Valentin432

    Being down is quite normal for a 1 hour episode compared to two hour since the 9pm slot generally has better ratings.

    The fox spin is that this week episode retained 94% of the audience from last week’s 8 to 9 pm  show.

  • elliegrll

    Based on the half hour breakdowns, Glee’s numbers will probably go down once the final ratings are released today.  AI definitely helped it.  

    The 8:30 increase in viewers for AI is impressive, as is its comparison to last week’s two hour show.  

  • elliegrll

    Based on the half hour breakdowns, Glee’s numbers will probably go down once the final ratings are released today.  AI definitely helped it.  

    The 8:30 increase in viewers for AI is impressive, as is its comparison to last week’s two hour show.  

  • http://twitter.com/happylittlefish Amy Beth

    Next Thursday will be the first day of February sweeps. None of the CBS shows will be reruns. That will be the first real test of the staying power of the new judging panel.

  • justmefornow

    Wow, both CBS shows against Idol were repeats AGAIN, and Idol’s numbers were still down.
    Against new shows next week on CBS Idol’s numbers could be pretty bad. 
    We’ll see.

  • fantoo1

    The comparative episode last year was 5.5, so not a bad drop from last season either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.dangio.71 Robert D’Angio

    It’s still number 1 and had 14 to 15 million viewers… who cares about ratings, the audience is clearly there. Even if it falls to number 2 or 3 next week, Idol still has a huge audience, I feel like everyone talks about Idol like it’s on it’s deathbed when in actuality it is doing just fine.

  • fantoo1

    It was down mostly because it was only a one hour episode, and it’s having a typical 2nd week drop. Nothing to be worried about, really.

  • elliegrll

    More people watch television at 9 o’clock than at 8, so AI’s ratings were going to be down in comparison to last week. Just look at the huge difference between the ratings for 8 and what the show did at 8:30.  Even with just airing for an hour, the show retained most of its viewers.

  • justmefornow

    For Idol’s sake, I hope you’re right. 
    But that change for Idol from 8:00 to 8:30 had more to do with the greater popularity of TBBT compared to Two and a Half Men.

  • elliegrll

    Actually, it was a mixture of people watching TBBT, and the fact that more people watch television at 8:30 than they do at 8:00.  It’s not just a phenomenon that is seen with American Idol.

    I really don’t think that we need to worry about this “For Idol’s sake, I hope you’re right.”, because even if TBBT’s ratings are better than American Idol’s next Thursday, American Idol’s ratings will still be better than every other broadcast show.  Last week AI was #3 only behind the AFC championship game coverage which held down the first two spots.  Assuming the pro bowl does well on Sunday, and if TBBT beats AI, both episodes of American Idol should still sit comfortably in the top five shows of the week.  How is that a bad thing?  American Idol and TBBT are pretty much the only broadcast shows this season to hit a 6.0 in the key demo.  Only three regularly scheduled shows have drawn as many viewers as American Idol, so it’s a little hard to get upset or worried about the idea that TBBT may do better than AI next week, especially since TBBT beat AI a few times last season in head to head competition, so it’s not like it would be a new occurrence.  

  • Hazehel

    TV by the Numbers’ calculation is off.  5.1 is a drop of 9% from 5.6. 

    Looking at the half-hourly numbers, it is not bad at all.  Averaging at less than 6% drop in the 18-49 demo and 2% in the total number from last week.  Of course things may change next week when you have new episode of The Big Bang Theory.   

  • JudyOhio

    The audition rounds are getting better as it goes along (imo).  Had I not been a long time viewer of AI (since the beginning, lol) and instead been a new casual viewer, I would not have been impressed by the first audition show and possibly wouldn’t have tuned back in for more.  I enjoyed the Weds. show and the Thurs. show even moreso.  They’re coming forth with some GOOD talent (and the judges seem to be settling in to their roles more now).  Hope viewers who were disappointed the first week of auditions DO tune back in and check it out further.  By the way, for those of you who know, has that ever happened before….a lackluster first/second show, then audience coming back when/if the check it back out……or do they check it back out? 

  • elliegrll

    The ratings for the first episode is usually, if not always, the highest rated episode of the audition rounds.  From then on out, usually the first episode of Hollywood week is the highest rated episode for that round, and the first episode of the live episodes tends to be higher than the episodes leading up to the finale.  I think that’s just the normal ebb and flow for the show.

    I don’t think that this year has been any different, except that the normal ratings drops seem to be smaller than they were last season.

    I also think that this audition round has been one of the best since I don’t know when.  I’m always ready for this round to end, but these episodes have not been as pointless and boring as last season’s.

  • springboard2

    Here’s a link to visual chart of demo ratings since season 5:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApzvSTEl-a0ZdER5aHVDMnBfM1NORXJETUlaWUVUckE

    Strangely, there is little variation between the Wednesday and Thursday shows compared to other seasons.

  • Jaejae1

    I know Thursday is a tough night. Actually weds is too. I have Vamp diaries to watch on Thursday and a lot if shows I like are on Weds too. Thank goodness for Prime Time Anytime. ???? Glad idol is hanging in there.????

  • BonnieDee

    It’s Minaj.  Get rid of her, the ratings go up.

  • fantoo1

    Lol not at all. If anything, she is the one helping the ratings from falling hard. The ratings always see a gradual decrease as the auditions go on.

  • fantoo1

    Lol not at all. If anything, she is the one helping the ratings from falling hard. The ratings always see a gradual decrease as the auditions go on.

  • BonnieDee

    Gonna have to disagree with that.  Go look at 99% of the posts on American Idol’s Facebook page.  They want Nicki gone.  This is the only place I see any Nicki support.  

  • fantoo1

    I think they meant it was down 6% from the first hour of last week.

  • fantoo1

    And the majority of those comments on facebook are from over 40 year old housewives. For every comment like that, there are twice as many people who “like” a Nicki related post.

  • elliegrll

    The majority of viewers don’t comment online about the show.  We represent a small fraction of the people who do.  The ratings comparison to last season does not support the claim that Nicki is hurting the ratings.  Not only is the season to season drop smaller than it was from season 10 to season 11, but the week to week drops also look smaller.  

    Nobody can make claims that most people don’t like or like Nicki, or that people aren’t watching because of her, especially when the drop in ratings is smaller than last year’s, and the week to week drops are smaller than what we’ve seen during the past few seasons.

    Maybe the smaller drop this season is about the editing being better, or the panel as a whole, I don’t know.  I do know that the fraction of the viewers who comment online don’t speak for everyone, and that Fox and 19 pandering to only a segment of viewers has hurt the show, so it’s good to see that something has happened this year to slow down decline in ratings.

  • BonnieDee

    I’ve over 40.  Not a housewife.  Whatever that is.  I work full time, have a college degree. I do some housework occasionally, though my husband does more than I do because he’s retired.  Does that make me a housewife?  Don’t like Nicki.  I think she’s disrespectful, rude, and not talented or experienced enough to even be on that panel.  I’m not sure how you can tell if the comments on Facebook are from 40 year old housewives or not.

  • BonnieDee

    Season 10 was the first year of Steven Tyler and J-Lo, and there were really good contestants with invested fan bases, especially Scotty, Lauren, and Haley.  Season 11, the contestants were just not as good and there was a drop off in ratings.  Phillip is great, but didn’t really have any other fan bases challenging him too much.  This year, the judges suck and the ratings are falling each week.  They’ve been up against Repeats of Big Bang Theory the last two weeks and they are still falling.  I see a lot of Nicki hate online.  I see Nicki’s disrespectful attitude towards Mariah, who deserves respect for her amazing career in the music business.  I know other people see that too.  Nicki is not well liked at all from what I can see and that is my opinion. I think the ratings will continue to fall.  I have given up on the show and am waiting for the Voice to come on in March.  With Blake, Adam, Shakira, and Usher judging, that is going to be a much better panel IMO.  

  • blackberryharvest

    Idol adjusted up to 5.2, Glee adjusted down to 2.6.

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/01/25/thursday-final-ratings-american-idol-adjusted-up-glee-adjusted-down/166691/

    Down only 5.5% from last season.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    And the majority of those comments on facebook are from over 40 year old housewives.

    Well, that is the main demographic that watches the show and it has been for years.

    How do you know that they are 40 year old housewives anyway? There are thousands of comments. Are you facebook friends with all these people? Do you know that they all don’t have jobs outside the home?

    I’m curious as to how you know the gender, age and occupational status of thousands of random facebook members.

  • chillj

    I tune in to the show weekly, but don’t last long.  It is boring, but auditions have almost always been boring.  I figure I will try again later in the season, or wait for The Voice, but I do think the new female judges are not helping and Nicki is best in small doses; she is a little grating.

    I think one indication of how the show is doing is the number of on line comments on sites that cover it; with the exception of this site, Idol is not getting many comments.  The worst thing that can happen to a show is apathy, and it appears to be happening.

    I think better judge choice could have stimulated more interest.  There are people who are not narcissistic and fun to watch.

  • elliegrll

    Season 11, the contestants were just not as good and there was a drop off in ratings.

    There’s a little problem with this hypothesis, it doesn’t explain the fact that the ratings took a huge drop starting with the first episode of season 11.  That had nothing to do with the quality of those contestants, or how much people liked them.

     

    This year, the judges suck and the ratings are falling each week.

    The judges sucking is subjective.  What’s not subjective is that during season 10 the first episode started out with 26 million viewers, and the show didn’t reach that figure again until the finale.  

    What’s also not subjective is that just like every season, the ratings rose and fell as the season went on.  The first Wednesday show had a demo rating of 9.7, the next night it was 7.8.  The next Wednesday 9.2, the next day 7.7.  Ratings for the Hollywood week episodes, 7.3, 8.2, 7.6.  The first performance of the top 12 dropped to a 6.7.  Top 3 was a 6.3.  Finale 7.2, it didn’t even go back up to the 7.9 of the first episode.  That’s just how the seasons play out.  

    The ratings have been stable this season.

  • blackberryharvest

    I think one indication of how the show is doing is the number of on line
    comments on sites that cover it; with the exception of this site, Idol
    is not getting many comments.

    I haven’t noticed that. Source? Yahoo had over 7000 comments the other night.

  • blackberryharvest

    Season 10 was the first year of Steven Tyler and J-Lo, and there were
    really good contestants with invested fan bases, especially Scotty,
    Lauren, and Haley.

    The ratings in Season 10 were also initially down from Season 9. The started rising later on during the live shows.

    Season 11, the contestants were just not as good and there was a drop off in ratings.

    The ratings were already down during the season premiere. I wouldn’t blame the Season 11 contestants on the drop since the ratings were already dropping before we got to see them.

    This year, the judges suck and the ratings are falling each week.

    The ratings always fall from the premiere week to the 2nd week. This season actually saw smaller drops compared to other seasons.

    They’ve been up against Repeats of Big Bang Theory the last two weeks and they are still falling.

    There was a very small drop from last year’s comparable episode to this year. And the drop this week was very small, especially when you consider tonight’s was only one hour compared to last week.

    I think the ratings will continue to fall.

    That’s a given, just like every other season.

    With Blake, Adam, Shakira, and Usher judging, that is going to be a much better panel IMO. 

    Well we haven’t seen how 2 out of the 4 can judge yet, but okay!

  • chillj

    I go to entertainment related sites:  EW, TV Line, etc.

    Idol has a good thing going; it is almost hard to screw it up, but they try very hard.  All they had to do was elect a passable collection of semi-mature personalities to judge, but they apparently chose for demographic.  

    Choosing personalities for a demographic is fine – as long as you don’t blow off the audience you already have.  Idol is doing just that; there are millions of devoted and invested viewers who apparently are not watching. Why?

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    So you watch these shows for the judges? Idk about anybody else, but I could care less who the judges are. I watch the show for the contestants, and in the end the contestants are what make the show. Many other people feel the same way, and that is why the show has continued to be successful.

  • elliegrll

    Why weren’t they watching last year, when the ratings had a big drop?  Or, the year before, or the year before that, when the percentage drop in ratings are similar to what we are seeing now?  

    The second Thursday episode of last season had a demo rating of 5.5 and drew 17.14 million people.   Yesterday’s episode had a demo rating of 5.3 and drew 15.65 million people, that’s not a huge difference.  Especially when we compare it to the drops for season 11 in comparison to season 10:

    The second Thursday episode of season 10 drew 22.48 million people and had a demo rating of 7.7.  Nicki wasn’t on the panel for season 11, so what was the reason for millions of devoted and invested viewers not watching?

  • blackberryharvest

    I looked back on last year’s tvline and the comments were even less than last year-there is more this year already it seems like. I don’t know about EW. I think everything picks up after the auditions end, tvline got popular again last year once the live shows started.

  • Hazehel

    I go to entertainment related sites:  EW, TV Line, etc.

    Not sure which pages you are looking at, but American Idol-related posts at EW have reasonable number of comments, here for example over 100, more than most pages - 
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/01/23/american-idol-nicki-minaj-mariah-carey-fight-country/
    (Note to those who say people don’t like Nicki that there are people who support Nicki Minaj.)

    I don’t normally go to TV Line, but it looks like this one on Idol is one of the ones with the most comments after going through several pages - 
    http://tvline.com/2013/01/23/american-idol-recap-season-12-charlotte-auditions-nicki-mariah-fight/

    Idol has a good thing going; it is almost hard to screw it up, but they try very hard. 

    It’s a show with 11 seasons under its belt, how many other shows are there that has this kind of ratings after 11 seasons? I have no idea why people think that Idol will automatically get amazing ratings year after year.  All TV shows decline after some time, and so far nothing suggest that the drop this year is particularly bad compared to what has happened since Season 6 (yes, most years decline by over 10% from 2008 onwards).  

  • chillj

    I saw totals that indicated some column totals are being merged, as magazines sometimes do.  When you go to a columnist at ten am the next morning after a show, you notice who has not been there.

    There are apologists for the show; there are people who actually like the show, but this is the first season where for the first time ever I just can not tolerate it at all. That judges table is a piece of work.

  • wmviii

    I blame Nicki. she’s scaring viewers.. get rid of that attention whore.

  • Hazehel

    I saw totals that indicated some column totals are being merged, as magazines sometimes do.

    I have no idea what you mean, but you just have to scroll through the archive to see the number of comments each article has to see that American Idol articles have above-average number of comments (only a few articles have more) –  
    http://tvline.com/page/5/
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/01/page/3/

  • elliegrll

    There are apologists for the show; there are people who actually like the show

    This has been the case from the beginning.  Except, I would say that there are people who like the show and those who don’t.  

    There is no reason to apologize for a show that so far looks like it will once again be in the top 5 in the Nielsen ratings.  Nor for a show that is showing this much stability in the ratings after 12 seasons.  After last year’s drop I think that people were expecting to see a bigger drop this year.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QXISMF77FUTM37Y5Z2CGBNSBQU Aaron

    Well, obviously the frau doesn’t like her. Hopefully she scares them off so we can get a different type of winner.

  • http://twitter.com/svmreiter Susan Reiter

    I can say for me that I usually tune in during the auditions.  It’s comfortable and familiar.  I usually do not watch the whole show because after a few contestants and judge comments and Ryan mugging with contestants it starts to feel not as much familiar and comforting as it does worn and tired.  I’ll turn it on now and again.

  • Hazehel

    There is no reason to apologize for a show that so far looks like it will once again be in the top 5 in the Nielsen ratings.

    I think in years past when Idol was getting amazing ratings where none of the other shows can get within touching distance of Idol, a drop wouldn’t look so bad because other shows still can’t touch it even when its ratings dropped.  Now that other shows can, the drop looks worse because other shows can beat it.

    I’m not really sure what Idol can do to arrest the decline, especially in the 18-49 demo – people get old, people get bored, people find other shows more interesting, etc.  A few more years and its premiere may well be in the 3 range.  Idol needs fresh idea if it wants to keep drawing new people to the show to replace those who stopped watching for whatever reasons. Good ideas however are hard to come by, and new ideas can also alienate its existing fans.  It either can try something radical (and risk mass desertion of fans), or it can be content to let the ratings drop naturally.  

  • Hazehel

    There is no reason to apologize for a show that so far looks like it will once again be in the top 5 in the Nielsen ratings.

    I think in years past when Idol was getting amazing ratings where none of the other shows can get within touching distance of Idol, a drop wouldn’t look so bad because other shows still can’t touch it even when its ratings dropped.  Now that other shows can, the drop looks worse because other shows can beat it.

    I’m not really sure what Idol can do to arrest the decline, especially in the 18-49 demo – people get old, people get bored, people find other shows more interesting, etc.  A few more years and its premiere may well be in the 3 range.  Idol needs fresh idea if it wants to keep drawing new people to the show to replace those who stopped watching for whatever reasons. Good ideas however are hard to come by, and new ideas can also alienate its existing fans.  It either can try something radical (and risk mass desertion of fans), or it can be content to let the ratings drop naturally.