Monday Morning Mediabase Update: Jan 23-29

Yay Adam!  BTIKM is moving up fast for just a week on adds.  Can’t wait to see what happens on HAC and CHR leading up to the album drop on 3/20.

Nice jump for Scotty! Just 4 more spots away from passing ILYTB…which is great because people were doubting TTWG would climb that high.

^I was one of those (a fan even) who doubted TTWG would break top 20 on country.  He keeps exceeding expectations it seems, good for him!  I will think twice before I underestimate one of his songs again!  Lesson learned. lol

Scotty has done incredible things with less than stellar singles and surpassed my expectations in every way. It’s so exciting watching him rise to the top with the respect and endorsement of some of the best in the industry, not to mention his personal heroes. 

Oh this makes me very happy . 

Scotty just ended his first Solo Concert tonight in Lancaster, California! SOLD OUT 1440 seats and they added an additional 252 for a total of 1692! They sold out and there were people tweeting that they were adding more seats and people were lined up to get in! I have no doubt that tomorrow Scotty will be the topic of the day! The tweets are coming in by the dozens of what an amazing concert it was!!! Go Scotty!

Reminder:

Let’s keep this thread focused on the numbers. Other news goes in the headlines thread. Thanks.

Kelly’s WDKY will be n°1 in the Hot Digital songs chart with a good lead.
Can’t wait to see the number it sold this week.
Altough Adele’s 100M lead in AI should make her an easy n°1 on the Hot 100, I’m guessing it ends up n°2 because WDKY should double the sales of We Found Love.

On the canadian charts, Carly Rae Jepsen (Canadian Idol Season 5 3rd place finisher) has a smash with Call Me Maybee, has a big lead in digital sales and is climbing rapidly the radio charts.

Congrats to all idols charting, 2012 is really going to be an incredbily busy year with Carrie waiting to be all over the country charts very soon.

I think FIM was purged instead of going recurrent. IIRC, (and someone who understands these rules can please correct me) my basic understanding of recurrency is a song is eligible to go recurrent if it falls below position #15, after 20 weeks on the chart.  Purge is when a song reaches Top 40, but falls
below Top 40 ranking – and doesn’t show signs of reentering usually due to persistent negative spincreases. The song
is purged from the chart to make way for others. FIM charted for 12 wks, Peaked around #32, but had negative spincreases the last couple weeks, falling 3 spots from #42 (Sat. Update) to #45 (Sunday a.m.update) on Mediabase before being removed from the chart during the evening update.. I think The Last Goodbye met the same fate – purged from chart before meeting recurrency standards. A pity both singles underwhelmed this era. Better luck next time.

Congratulations to Clay for charting with absolutely zero buzz.

Congrats to all Idols charting!  Really hoping TTWG keeps up this momentum:))))

TTWG is the little song that could. Never expected it to hit top 20, and it did. Never expected it to go gold, but it will. (in about 2 weeks)

I’m proud to say I love the song. Yeah, come at me.

“On the canadian charts, Carly Rae Jepsen (Canadian Idol Season 5 3rd place finisher) has a smash with Call Me Maybee, has a big lead in digital sales and is climbing rapidly the radio charts.”
Ha ha ha…was she really on Canadian Idol?? Who knew?

That’s such a catchy, cute song; and it’s on the radio ALL the time where I live. Good for her.

On the canadian charts, Carly Rae Jepsen (Canadian Idol Season 5 3rd
place finisher) has a smash with Call Me Maybee, has a big lead in
digital sales and is climbing rapidly the radio charts.

I wonder if they will try to bring it to the US. It’s a great song with an infectious hook (and Carly Rae is adorable in the video).

Just goes to show you need to keep pursuing your dream.

Clay does have his upcoming appearance on Celebrity Apprentice giving him exposure.

Do you think RCA will give Cook another single once he starts touring again?  It probably will not get much if any label support since they have a lot of new releases coming up. He can at least have something to promote while on tour (AWM, BLY).

So this week is the official adds week for BTIKM for CHR.  Is Monday or Tuesday the main day when CHR stations add songs, or is it evenly split between the two days?

From what I have seen in the past, it’s usually up to 50% reported on Monday.

I think officialy it’s HAC adds on Monday and CHR adds on Tuesday, but CHR can add on Monday.  I’m sure someone can confirm this.

No, I don’t think David will get another single. 

Thanks, HS and Dakota.    I notice that so far 17.4% of HAC stations have reported, whereas 8.3% of Top 40 stations have reported.

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddsByFormat.asp?Startdate=1%2F25%2F2012&AddFormat=A2

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddsByFormat.asp?Startdate=1%2F25%2F2012&AddFormat=H1

Kworb’s final sales estimates and predictions:

Sales estimates
*1. Kelly Clarkson – Stronger: 2462282
2. David Guetta & Nicki Minaj – Turn Me On: 1887163
3. ADELE – Set Fire to the Rain: 1853054

Hot 100 prediction
1. Set Fire To The Rain (185 + 122 = 307)
*2. Stronger (246 + 43 = 289)
3. We Found Love (124 + 149 = 273)

I think officialy it’s HAC adds on Monday and CHR adds on Tuesday, but
CHR can add on Monday.  I’m sure someone can confirm this.

Yep, Monday is HAC and Tuesday. is CHR and yes you will see a few CHR adds trickle in on Monday.

Nice news for the Idols.:)  Yay Adam and Kelly!

I can’t post Mediabase stats because All Access hasn’t updated their site yet.

YEY for Scotty’s TTWG. 
The song’s finally finally being played on my station and it still gives me goosebumps every time I hear him on the radio.

I’m a fan of DC’s and I think that album is so weak.  The first was much better and RCA didn’t give him more than two singles off of that one.  I don’t know what song on there would be a good singles choice.  If I were David’s management, I would get him back into the studio ASAP and try to have another album out by the end of 2012/beginning of 2013.

It’s pretty amazing given the airplay difference that Stronger is outselling SFTTR.
Of course, Adele is still selling an insane amount of albums every week. And the Grammys will just give her a bigger boost. I like Adele but I think it’s time for someone new to dominate the charts.

ETA:  ”Will this achievement get the gatekeepers of Country allow the song to add the rest of the stations on the Country panel? “…………

Just who are the GATEKEEPERS and why do they have so much power as to who’s allowed or not allowed to get radio plays?!?!
Anyways, I hope whoever they are, they will put two and two together and figure out that Scotty’s ( and Lauren’s)  worth the adds.

I think that touring has helped Scotty, and his solo concert in CA last night was sold out, so the exposure and radio station interviews have helped him.

I notice that so far 17.4% of HAC stations have reported

At this time in the morning, it is mostly the morning auto-adders “reporting” in.

Has anybody ever figured out why some stations auto-add first thing in the morning while other stations do it 5 seconds (and sometimes after) the panel closes? It’s an auto-add.

“Sales estimates
*1. Kelly Clarkson – Stronger: 2462282
2. David Guetta & Nicki Minaj – Turn Me On: 1887163
3. ADELE – Set Fire to the Rain: 1853054″

I don’t understand these figures.  Is kworb extrapolating the final sales figures for each song?

ETA: It can’t be extrapolation, because SFTTR has already sold more than 1853054.

What do these figures mean?

To which I say: If you want the crown, snatch it from the queen’s head.  Because she won’t give it to you.  Nor should she. 

Kelly will get what is hers, same as Adele.  Whatever that may be.

I’m not expecting Adele to stop selling any time soon.;)
But it is great that at least in terms of singles Kelly will have her beat this week.And Stronger is still #1 on iTunes! I’m just getting bored with the Adele domination (even though I love the album) and with the Grammys coming up it’ll be 24/7 Adele for weeks to come.

No one can compete with Adele in terms of sales or airplay this era, just like nobody beat Lady Gaga during her Fame era or Taylor Swift during Fearless.
She has connected with the american audience in a way only one or two artist does every 3 or 4 years.

i-tunes

Singles
1. Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) – Kelly Clarkson (Deluxe version)
2. Set Fire to the Rain – ADELE
16. Moves Like Jagger (Studio Recording from “The Voice” Performance) [feat. Christina Aguilera] – Maroon 5
17. Someone Like You – ADELE
31. Rolling in the Deep – ADELE
33. Stereo Hearts (feat. Adam Levine) – Gym Class Heroes
47. Mr. Know It All – Kelly Clarkson (Deluxe version)
67. The Trouble With Girls – Scotty McCreery
97. Rumour Has It – ADELE
105. Without You (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
113. Remind Me (Duet with Carrie Underwood) – Brad Paisley
124. Drink On It – Blake Shelton
126. Tough – Kellie Pickler
157. We Are Young (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
189. Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) – Kelly Clarkson
192. We Found Love (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
198. Georgia Peaches – Lauren Alaina
207. Turning Tables – ADELE
225. Don’t You Wanna Stay (with Kelly Clarkson) – Jason Aldean
235. Far Away (feat. Chris Richardson) – Tyga
250. Camouflage – Brad Paisley
259. Make You Feel My Love – ADELE
309. Chasing Pavements – ADELE
322. Moves Like Jagger / Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
327. The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
328. 100 Proof – Kellie Pickler
329. Temporary Home – Carrie Underwood
342. Crawling Back to You – Daughtry
390. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
400. Bad Day – Daniel Powter
412. Before He Cheats – Carrie Underwood
413. One and Only – ADELE
427. I Love You This Big – Scotty McCreery
444. Jesus, Take the Wheel – Carrie Underwood
453. Good Morning (feat. TobyMac) – Mandisa & tobyMac
481. Fly Over States – Jason Aldean
544. Undo It – Carrie Underwood
562. Rumour Has It / Someone Like You (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
601. Cowboy Casanova – Carrie Underwood
605. Bleeding Love – Leona Lewis
633. Just a Dream – Carrie Underwood
674. Lovesong – ADELE
713. Better Than I Know Myself – Adam Lambert
768. Already Gone – Kelly Clarkson
769. All-American Girl – Carrie Underwood
773. Because of You – Kelly Clarkson
841. Don’t You Remember – ADELE
865. Stronger – Mandisa
867. My Life Would Suck Without You – Kelly Clarkson (Single)
949. Summer Nights (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
962. Since U Been Gone – Kelly Clarkson
1011. Bleeding Love – Leona Lewis
1023. Like My Mother Does – Lauren Alaina

Albums
1. 21 – ADELE
14. 19 – ADELE
16. Stronger (Deluxe Version) – Kelly Clarkson
17. Duets II – Tony Bennett
21. 100 Proof – Kellie Pickler
46. Clear As Day – Scotty McCreery
72. Winter – EP – Jack and White
120. Break the Spell (Deluxe Version) – Daughtry
201. Play On – Carrie Underwood
225. Wildflower – Lauren Alaina
280. Glee: The Music, Vol. 7 – Glee Cast
316. iTunes Festival: London 2011 – EP – ADELE
426. Break the Spell – Daughtry
435. Stronger – Kelly Clarkson
451. Some Hearts – Carrie Underwood
509. iTunes Live from SoHo – ADELE
517. Red – Dia Frampton
594. Glee: The Music Presents The Warblers – Glee Cast
700. Glee: The Music, Vol. 5 – Glee Cast
707. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
743. Memories of a Beautiful Disaster – James Durbin
749. Glee: The Music, Vol. 1 – Glee Cast
773. Dream With Me – Jackie Evancho
806. Daughtry – Daughtry
845. Glee: The Music, Vol. 4 – Glee Cast
891. Gemini – EP – Jack and White
973. Glee: The Music, Vol. 6 – Glee Cast

Normally, I would feel the same way.  But what Adele has accomplished doesn’t bore me.  I find it amazing, largely in part it’s great to see someone in the music industry catch lightning in a bottle.  But mileage varies.

I think about 4 more songs are gonna go into recurrent so Scottys song is gonna keep shootin up which would then hopefully be in a good position to release his next single some time in the coming months

Congrats to all the Idols scoring milestones this week: Kelly, Scotty, Adam, and Jennifer!

Focusing on the country chart: good recognition by Mercury Nashville of the window TTWG had to make t20. TTWG took 22 weeks to make t20 Mediabase. I knew it would make it there because it’s Scotty but I still don’t believe TTWG will be (or deserves to be) a t10 song. I think he has a chance of making t20 on Billboard too but there are a bunch of songs charging hard behind him. Lee Brice had a really good week of AI gains and is up over 2.2 million Mediabase AIs compared to the last published chart. In fact A Woman Like You has higher Mediabase AIs than TTWG. TTWG is up 1.5 million Mediabase AIs compared to the last published chart. They were separated by just under 1.3 million AIs on Billboard so if Mediabase is any indication, Lee Brice cut that lead in half this week. Tim McGraw is also closing in on TTWG when it comes to Mediabase AIs though his gains were probably inflated by last week being an album release week for him. 

IMO Lee Brice, Miranda Lambert, and Rascal Flatts all have their sights set on passing TTWG within the next couple weeks on Billboard and Tim McGraw is a threat too. Mediabase with its points system may keep TTWG safe for a week or two extra but all these songs are within 1100 points of TTWG. 

The question is how much further up TTWG can go and how much longer should Mercury stick with the song? In addition to songs that have peaked there’s some weakness ahead of TTWG with Hunter Hayes’s Storm Warning teetering tottering, Brad Paisley’s Camouflage struggling, and Justin Moore’s awful Bait A Hook looking weak. TTWG is too far away to pass them (and isn’t going to pass anybody else) so it needs them to peak in order to move up. But, I don’t see Brad’s song going before it makes t10. I have a feeling Hunter’s label wants to keep his song alive to try to make t10. Justin Moore’s song has been struggling ever since it came out but won’t die. 

So, the worst case scenario is all those 3 songs stay alive and it leaves TTWG with a real struggle to make t15 with 4 big songs bearing down on it. The best case scenario is those 3 songs all give up in the next couple weeks. I don’t think the best case scenario is too likely. But, Mercury Nashville should probably wait and see a few more weeks if the chart ahead of TTWG is going to clear up any. If it doesn’t, cut bait and release an uptempo at the beginning of March. I really, really don’t think Mercury Nash should waste another 8 weeks to try to get a t15 peak for TTWG.

I’d comment on CaseyJ and Lauren but I can’t see their AIs yet this morning because All Access hasn’t updated yet.

Adds check (9:54 am et)

Scotty (4)-TTWG (Country)

JHud f/Ne-Yo (3)-Think Like A Man (Urban)

Kelly (3)-WDKY (2 Canada-CHR/Pop, 1 CHR/Pop)

Adam (2)-BTIKM (HAC)

Lauren (1)-GP (Country)

One Direction (1)-WMYB (Canada-CHR/Pop)

Addboard

I don’t understand these figures.  Is kworb
extrapolating the final sales figures for each song?

I believe he’s using the relative pop bar sizes. He’d have to
guesstimate his reference number (say, Adele sold 222K last week and you
figure she had a 10% drop – you have to use a stable song for the
reference because new songs race up and then fall back in an
unpredictable manner), then use the relative pop bars for each duration
of time (might want to average between the two samplings – you have to have a steady rate of sale for your reference song). You can probably do a pretty good prediction doing something like that. Maybe he’s explained his methodology.

Simple calculation (just using the start pop bar for the entire sampling duration):
Time Since Sample Taken (in hours): 1 2 5 8
Relative Pop Bars
Song 1: 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
Song 2: 0.7 0.65 0.80 0.85
Song 3: 0.5. 0.3 0.2 0.1

Song 2 reference song: 222K – 10% = ~200K for the week
Song 1 = ((1/0.7)*(1) + (1/0.65)*(2-1) + (1/0.80)*(5-2) + (1/0.85)*(8-5) ) * 200K/7/24 = 13.6K in 8 hours – but he has the entire week of numbers (if it sold at this rate for 8 hours it’s 286K for the week)

Song 2= ((0.5/0.7)*(1) + (0.3/0.65)*(2-1) + (0.2/0.8)*(5-2) + (0.1/0.85)*(8-5)) * 200K/7/24 = 3.7K in 8 hours (77K for the week – but you should really use the entire week’s worth of pop bars).

(Pop Bar 1/Pop Bar Ref )*(hours)

It’s 7 am on a Monday, I’ve probably messed that all up

Adds don’t necessarily equal spins.  Someone, like Danny Gokey, can have numerous adds for a song and still not get any spins…or if they get spins the AIs are so low that nobody hears the song anyway (2am spins, etc).

Scotty has all but about 20 of the monitored stations on board and has had for weeks now.  If all these stations just spin him once more per week he will continue on the charts and if they increase his spins once more per day he’ll be able to move up a spot or two. Since I can remember when he barely got 6 or 7 hundred spins a week it is nice to see him getting 2000.

I think that watching Scotty move up the charts has really brought home the fact that radio play (outside of CHR which is fast and furious and move onto the next song since people who listen to pop 40 seem to get bored very easily..but who wouldn’t when a song gets spun almost every hour) can be a slow, deliberate process and that a song may take up to 6 months to peak and fall.  TTWG has been on the chart for 130 days so it may well fall off just as Scotty’s winter touring falls off.  I can see a new song emerging just as the cherry trees start to bloom and the popcorn breaks out on the apricot trees.

Congrats to all the idols hitting milestones and charting. The show AI may piss me off in a lot of ways, but the talent we are introduced to does not.

Thanks, Kirsten, but that still doesn’t explain why all of the sales figures that were posted are in the millions, rather than the hundreds of thousands.  Am I being dense?  lol

Thanks for your analysis windmill.

Just one thing: talking about whether a song deserves to be in a certain chart position. Songs like Red Solo Cup or Country Girls Shake It For Me, I don’t think they deserve to be on top. And Blake’s new single isn’t that great to have such huge adds. Country Girl Shake It For Me is one of the worst country songs of 2011 and yet it is a hit. Just because these singers have paid their dues and have radio stations on their sides. Hunter Hayes is kind of a radio darling so Storm Warning gets to No 12, 13 on radio chart. I hate “Country must be country wide” and yet it topped country chart because radio jumped on board with Brantley.

Nothing against Taylor Swift  and she has certain good songs but Ours isn’t a great song and see how it is on chart now – just because she is Taylor.

Song like “Threaten me with heaven” is nominated for Grammy Awards but can’t even pass top 40 of radio chart – because Vince is old now or what.

I like TTWG even more than many country hit – it may not be a great fit for radio but it’s a nice song.

But charting with 20+ spins is a joke, that’s like playing the song in your living room.  The AC chart is really weird that way, why do they even bother?

hoa_teca: Just one thing: talking about whether a song deserves to be in a certain chart position. Songs like Red Solo Cup or Country Girls Shake It For Me, I don’t think they deserve to be on top. And Blake’s new single isn’t that great to have such huge adds. Country Girl Shake It For Me is one of the worst country songs of 2011 and yet it is a hit. Just because these singers have paid their dues and have radio stations on their sides. 

My hatred for Country Girl Shake It For Me is well documented. I don’t hate Red Solo Cup but I don’t like it either. The thing about those 2 songs, though I hate to admit it, is they did amazingly in terms of download sales – topping the country sales chart for weeks and by a big margin. They sold so well country radio wasn’t going to deny them. Luke Bryan is the next country superstar for reasons I can’t grasp (decent voice but I’ve liked maybe 1 of his singles). 

It’s not just about paying dues. Country radio is an artist driven format so the acts who have gained acceptance by fans get a pass because PDs/MDs know their listeners want to hear these acts. The superstars get a pass into the t20, mid level stars get a pass into the t30. 

Scotty and TTWG are actually benefiting from country radio being artist driven. No way do ILYTB and TTWG make t20 if Scotty hadn’t already generated the fanbase he has through his personal appeal. It’s not just that TTWG is mediocre, I think it’s mediocre in a radio-unfriendly way and my biggest concern with TTWG is it isn’t doing its job as far as winning PDs over to Scotty’s side. He still has that battle to fight and that battle would be so much easier if he were doing it with a better single.

There are slow and fast moving songs on every chart.
When Carrie will release her fist single, you’ll see it zoom up the charts just like a Rihanna or Katy Perry song would on Top 40.
Gavin Degraw is climbing the CHR charts and his song was released in may of 2011.

The main difference between country and Top 40 is that there a whole lot more artists and songs that get a turn at number 1 or in the top 5 on the contry charts than on top 40.

Tess, I agree with your comment — except that US CHR is really not “fast and furious”. If you look at the CHR Recurrents Airplay, a ton on CHR airplay is dedicated to old songs — it’s just that we tend to only focus on what is on the current charts. I think CHR is somewhat static and entrenched right now. And it is very hard for a new artist without prior hits to break through.

Yes, we get a few new artists every year, but really it is a list of the usually suspects plus a sprinkling of something new — a track that catches on like LMFAO’s PRA.

If I were David’s management, I would get him back into the studio ASAP
and try to have another album out by the end of 2012/beginning of 2013.

That might work if Cookie concentrated on some radio friendly tracks.  He can’t afford the luxury of making another album for himself.  When there’s a battle between artistic vision and popular appeal, only one of the possible winners can be counted on to put bread on the table.  But I worry that it may be too late.  His initial success wasn’t capitalized on.  Too much time between albums with not enough live performances in the interim, and a sophomore album not designed to attract a widespread new audience or even hold onto the old one strongly, did little to advance his cause. 

In response to hoa-teca.  Vince Gill’s “Threaten Me With Heaven” is actually a gorgeous song.  He’s definitely paid his dues and deserves a Grammy nomination, IMO.  Don’t like all of his music, but did like two or three pieces on his last CD.  Regarding the recent idols:  don’t think Scotty or Lauren (or any of the others) mind paying their dues.  They are doing well! Sometimes we get a little anxious for these new artists, but they are having fun and are moving up!  Meanwhile, we can honor other good artists too, including Vince.

But charting with 20+ spins is a joke, that’s like playing the song in
your living room.  The AC chart is really weird that way, why do they
even bother?

It’s not much of an accomplishment to get into the AC top 40.  When ILYTB first came out, a Raleigh AC station spun it enough to cause it to chart.  AC top 40 and only one station playing it.

Windmills….

I know and appreciate the fact that you are very much into country music and I am presuming that you have some insider information so that you are involved with it outside of your blog postings.  But aren’t your opinions still opinions.  Sure, Scotty is getting played because he came off of American Idol but wasn’t that true about Carrie in her early days.  And, you may not like songs like Red Solo Cup and Shake it for Me, but those songs and many more like them have been a boon to country music as they have brought in some, much needed, new listener blood into the fold.

Music is so “individual” that I become a little weary of always being told that what I like is outside the lines and that, even though the songs I like are doing well, they aren’t good in the “true” sense of the word.  Why does there need to excuses when an outlier song does well….it does well ’cause people like it.  I can make fun of Swift all I want and call her songs teenage drivel and her voice pure nails on chalkboard….but the reality is that the consumer, who drives everything, likes it.  How can you really argue with that….say that all her sales and popularity are just a figment of someone’s imagination?

And I would think that DJs and program directors are just like the rest of us…all of them may like lots of different stuff and our presumptions about their personal feelings towards certain songs are just that, feelings, unless they are actively campaigning against certain Artists.

When there’s a battle between artistic vision and popular appeal, only one of the possible winners can be counted on to put bread on the table.

There are a lot of hacks, who aren’t making a lot of money.  People just can’t copy what’s popular, and expect that they will be successful.  The artists who achieve long term success know how to mold their artistic vision into what people currently want to hear.  

In a way, I think that Cook tried to do that with “The Last Goodbye”, but that song just isn’t memorable.  He may have been in his own head too much on this album, but hopefully he figures out how to be both commercially successful and true to himself.  

By the way…my comment about Top 40 was totally tongue in cheek but that never relates well in written form.  Top 40 is as slow as any format…you see songs in the top 10 that have been out for four or five months all the time.  But I do believe that many people have a perception that everybody but their fav moves up the charts with lightning speed, settles in at the top of the heap, and is spun every hour on the hour…none of which is really absolute reality.

Maybe my inane comment actually will get people to understand that perception isn’t always reality….I can only hope.

I absolutely love “Threaten Me With Heaven – very happy to see this song nominated. Such a shame that this song didn’t fare better on radio – even Vince expressed his dissapointment about it. 

Tess: Sure, Scotty is getting played because he came off of American Idol but wasn’t that true about Carrie in her early days.

Of course it was true of Carrie and I never said otherwise. However, her singles were also huge callout hits out of the box and the Jesus Is My Designated Driver song is still cited as a one of those “pull over and stop the car” moments by a lot of country music’s gatekeepers. Carrie definitely had a bigger start than your typical newbie with her lead single because of AI, there’s no question. She probably got an easy pass to the t20. But, the actual songs/performances took over at some point. JTTW making it to #1 in 11 weeks and staying at #1 for 6 weeks wasn’t about American Idol, IMHO. Snarkable as the song was, it connected to a lot of people. And still is seeing as it’s on the cusp of selling 2 million downloads (1.939 million as of last week).

Tess:  And, you may not like songs like Red Solo Cup and Shake it for Me, but those songs and many more like them have been a boon to country music as they have brought in some, much needed, new listener blood into the fold.

You missed my point, which was specifically that though I don’t like either song, their killer download sales proved they obviously found their audience and that’s why they were getting played. Same with Luke Bryan being a superstar: I don’t really get it but his numbers prove he’s on his way to superstardom.

“but aren’t your opinions still opinions”

With that being said I see no reason why you or anyone else should be getting upset about some one not liking a song by any artist

I never thought TTWG was going to be denied a top 20 position, Scotty has sold so many albums and singles there was no way that country radio would deny him, people just tend to forget how slow moving the country chart can be. The chart is now finally starting to clear a bit, songs that were already struggling before the christmas freeze are now finally losing their spins and positions. I think that is basically the reason why Scotty has more “momentum”, those songs are falling and their spins are being redistributed to other places. As they fall lower down on the chart I would expect songs lower on the chart, like Lauren’s song to also start gaining a bit faster. 

Congrats to all the ex-Idols hitting milestones

“Maybe my inane comment actually will get people to understand that perception isn’t always reality….I can only hope.”

Oh, I think that people have realized that for quite a while now.  lol

“the Jesus Is My Designated Driver song”

lmao!  I’d never heard that nickname before. 

Sad about Cook’s Fade Into Me.

Too bad he had to collaborate with Ryan Tedder on The Last Goodbye.  Must be at least partly (completely?) why they pushed that one as the lead single, Tedder’s name.

Fade Into Me was featured on So You Think You Can Dance before it was even available for purchase.  Too bad as that could have built some immediate sales and buzz. 

If they had done the initial album promo with Fade Into Me rather than The Last Goodbye, things might look very different today.  Fade Into Me is a romantic, POSITIVE song that showcases Cook’s vocals and could have attracted renewed attention from casual fans who bought well over a million copies of Time of My Life.

With the four monitored Mediabase adds so far today, Scotty is very close to covering the chart with the exception of the Cumulus stations. Lauren is at 36 on Mediabase this morning, which I’m pretty sure ties for the highest she reached with “Like My Mother Does.” 

Scotty and Casey J are in positions where they are pretty much dependent on songs going recurrent to help them move up, at least for the next couple of weeks. Lauren could pass Gloriana if the song could get some momentum, but it has been pretty flat for a couple of weeks now. So is Gloriana’s song, for that matter. (GP does have four adds so far today with 40 percent reporting, which is better than is has done for the past three weeks).

If Eden’s Edge, Sara Evans and Faith Hill go recurrent next week, Casey and Lauren will move up those three spots. It won’t help Scotty since he has already passed them on the chart.

There are about four songs with good momentum behind Lauren and Casey that will probably be a threat in a couple of weeks. Charts are fun.

It’s almost 12:30 pm et and All Access still hasn’t bothered to update the Mediabase stats. 

mediabase is updated. But they don’t seem to chart AI

http://bit.ly/4o6U6v

http://bit.ly/xBJKyJ

When “The Last Goodbye” was first released, I thought the song was really generic and the lyrics were just a bunch of cliche phrases. I thought it was a bad single choice and that it was only released because Ryan Tedder co-wrote it.

Then, Cook’s album got released and I listened to all the songs … and … well, “The Last Goodbye” was the most logical single choice. I can’t fault RCA for picking it.

With the four monitored Mediabase adds so far today, Scotty is very
close to covering the chart with the exception of the Cumulus stations.

Of 23 US monitored country stations that haven’t added TTWG so far, 18 or 78% are Cumulus.  Yet they operate only 15% of the stations in that category. But none of those 21 stations has reported so far today. Maybe there’s still hope.

ETA: Edited to correct. There are 3 Clear Channel stations that haven’t added, one more than I was counting.

We knew the Mediabase had updated.  We are just waiting for All Access to do something because know All Access will give us the AI but so far, no dice. lol

Then, Cook’s album got released and I listened to all the songs … and … well, “The Last Goodbye” was the most logical single choice. I can’t fault RCA for picking it.

I agree.  The Last Goodbye wasn’t a good song, but it was the closest thing on the album to a radio friendly song.  Maybe since FIM isn’t as generic, and does a better job of showcasing Cook’s strengths it could have done well if it was the lead singl.   But it doesn’t fit the prototype of a lead single, and it’s not the type of song that’s going to get a lot of attention from PDs or consumers, especially when it is coming from a relatively new artist.

IdolChatter Idol Airplay Chart: Stronger’ gaining on ‘Mr. Know It All’ airplay

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2012/01/stronger-gaining-on-mr-know-it-all-airplay/1

TW/LW

1 1 Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All (9368 spins) (#5 AC, #5 Hot AC)
2 2 Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) (6959) (#28 AC, #15 Hot AC, #21 Top 40)
3 3 Daughtry, Crawling Back To You (4657) (#16 AC, #6 Hot AC)
4 5 Scotty McCreery, The Trouble With Girls (3200) (#19 Country)
5 4 Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson, Don’t You Wanna Stay (2900) (#9 AC)
6 6 Brad Paisley/Carrie Underwood, Remind Me (2617)
7 7 Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (2453)
8 9 Daughtry, Home (1474)
9 8 Adam Lambert, Whataya Want From Me (1458)
10 13 Carrie Underwood, Undo It (1201)
========================================
13 15 Casey James, Let’s Don’t Call It A Night (1111) (#32 Country)
20 21 Mandisa, Waiting for Tomorrow (918) (#4 Christian AC)
22 19 Kris Allen, Live Like We’re Dying (883)
24 22 Lauren Alaina, Georgia Peaches (872) (#36 Country)
34 35 Jennifer Hudson, I Got This (568) (#17 Urban AC)
35 40 Adam Lambert, Better Than I Know Myself (520) (#37 Hot AC)
52 57 Ruben Studdard, June 28th (I’m Single) (232) (#24 Urban AC)
53 54 James Durbin, Love Me Bad (214)
55 49 David Cook, Fade Into Me (205)
57 52 Scotty McCreery, I Love You This Big (191)
68 62 James Durbin, Stand Up (111)
72 70 Lauren Alaina, Like My Mother Does (85)
74 73 Chris Sligh, Empty Me (74)
75 Kellie Pickler, 100 Proof (74)

“Maybe since FIM isn’t as generic, and does a better job of showcasing
Cook’s strengths it could have done well if it was the lead singl.   But
it doesn’t fit the prototype of a lead single, and it’s not the type of
song that’s going to get a lot of attention from PDs or consumers,
especially when it is coming from a relatively new artist

I don’t know why, but I think part of the fault that DC’s album has not been so sound-appealing is because of the production. All official computer-videos, from my pretty new musical machines, that TV SDYTYCD sound again, the sound has come the same, like he’s singing with his head in a bucket, or recorded in a regular living-room, voice-sound distorsionated. Now it’s over, but I think with a better production of FIM and with Paper Heart as first single would have been much better for the course of his album.

Give me just a few minutes.  All Access has finally updated.

Thanks Pam, you’re awesome!

CaseyJ gained almost 200k overnight which for him is big. Lauren had a few strong updates late in the week to ensure she should have a Billboard bullet too. Very nice adds week for her, and nice one for Scotty too. Casey’s inching towards that 90 station mark.

fuzzywuzzy: “the Jesus Is My Designated Driver song”

lmao!  I’d never heard that nickname before.

I wish I could take credit for it! There was a little cluster of Carrie fans who braved TWOP during s4 and 1 of them came up with it, and we all just loved it so it stuck. I can honestly say I never would’ve guessed how huge that song would become for Carrie. BHC was obvious to everybody but not JTTW.

CHART DATE: 01/30/2012
LAST UPDATE: 01/30/2012 12:39:47
NOW IN: 54.98%

LW TW artist / album label power index
1 1 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 71,201
21
— 2 TIM MCGRAW CURB 37,644
EMOTIONAL TRAFFIC
— 3 2012 GRAMMY NOMINESS UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 30,673
VARIOUS ARTISTS
— 4 INGRID MICHAELSON CABIN 24/MOM + POP 22,444
HUMAN AGAIN
2 5 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 21,857
KIDZ BOP 21
— 6 LAMB OF GOD EPIC 15,297
RESOLUTION
– 7 KELLIE PICKLER BNA 14,842
100 PROOF
17 8 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 10,478
TAILGATES & TANLINES
11 9 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 10,056
HERE AND NOW
3 10 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,898
TAKE CARE

21 18 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 7,717
MY KINDA PARTY

14 20 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 7,615
STRONGER

29 22 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 7,040
CLEAR AS DAY

15 23 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 6,723
19

39 26 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA 4,599
BREAK THE SPELL

35 37 MAROON 5 A&M/OCTONE 3,736
HANDS ALL OVER

43 50 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 2,658
BORN THIS WAY

HDD Sales Chart

Scotty seems to be stuck at 7k at 54% and then 10k at 100%.  Interesting to see if that holds true this week.

CHR/Pop

24 20 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger
(What Doesn… 3837 2957 880 23.569

+2 Positions

+71 Spins

-113 Bullet

+0.672 AI

46 45 DAUGHTRY Crawling
Back To You 416 446 -30 1.4

+2 Positions

+2 Spins

+9 Bullet

+0.008 AI

HAC

4 5 KELLY CLARKSON Mr.
Know It All 3503 3957 -454 23.101

-93 Spins

-57 Bullet

-0.618 AI

7 6 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You
3082 3173 -91 16.2

-16 Spins

-10 Bullet

-0.194 AI

16 14 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger
(What Doesn… 2214 1712 502 14.966

+1 Position

+70 Spins

-32 Bullet

+0.417 AI

42 37 ADAM LAMBERT Better
Than I Know M… 274 201 73 1.252

+1 Position

+6 Spins

-8 Bullet

+0.035 AI

48 44 JAMES DURBIN Love Me
Bad 158 132 26 0.215

+2 Positions

+1 Spin

-3 Bullet

0 AI

 
AC

5 5 KELLY CLARKSON Mr.
Know It All 1405 1241 164 12.593

+41 Spins

+24 Bullet

+0.25 AI

9 9 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t
You Wanna Stay 836 781 55 4.676

+9 Spins

+4 Bullet

-0.024 AI

16 17 DAUGHTRY Crawling
Back To You 254 252 2 0.837

-1 Position

-1 Spin

-6 Bullet

+0.011 AI

29 26 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger
(What Doesn… 61 43 18 0.152

+2 Positions

+6 Spins

+10 Bullet

+0.012 AI

37 35 CLAY AIKEN Bring
Back My Love 29 21 8 0.021

+1 Spin

0 Bullet

+0.003 AI

Country

22 19 SCOTTY MCCREERY The
Trouble With Gir… 2164 1862 302 12.753

+1 Position

+8 Spins

-35 Bullet

+0.084 AI

33 32 CASEY JAMES Let’s
Don’t Call It … 978 913 65 4.624

+1 Position

+15 Spins

+17 Bullet

+0.198 AI

38 36 LAUREN ALAINA Georgia
Peaches 639 608 31 3.36

+1 Position

-10 Spins

+3 Bullet

-0.04 AI

Active Rock

43 47 JAMES DURBIN Stand Up
110 132 -22 0.105

Urban AC

17 17 JENNIFER HUDSON I Got
This 488 471 17 2.259

-11 Spins

-31 Bullet

-0.034 AI

28 25 RUBEN STUDDARD June
28th (I’m Singl… 213 155 58 1.118

+2 Spins

-2 Bullet

+0.022 AI

164 42 JENNIFER HUDSON Think
Like A Man f/N… 61 5 56 0.847

+1 Position

0 Bullet

0 AI

Christian AC

4 4 MANDISA Waiting
For Tomorrow 912 886 26 3.363

-4 Spins

-12 Bullet

+0.053 AI

Canada-CHR/Pop

43 32 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger
(What Doesn… 314 202 112 2.183

+5 Positions

+5 Spins

-19 Bullet

+0.068 AI

78 39 ONE DIRECTION What
Makes You Beaut… 213 76 137 1.383

+5 Positions

+14 Spins

+1 Bullet

+0.06 AI

Canada-HAC

20 13 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger
(What Doesn…
524 391
133 3.484

+1 Position

+22 Spins

-1 Bullet

+0.171 AI

16 19 KELLY CLARKSON Mr.
Know It All 421 498 -77 3.01

+1 Position

-6 Spins

+12 Bullet

+0.015 AI

27 28 DAUGHTRY Crawling
Back To You 226 256 -30 0.94

+1 Positions

-6 Spins

-2 Bullet

-0.01 AI

44 35 ADAM LAMBERT Better
Than I Know M… 160 126 34 1.304

+4 Positions

+6 Spins

+9 Bullet

-0.054 AI

Canada-Main AC

4 5 KELLY CLARKSON Mr.
Know It All 285 317 -32 2.609

-1 Position

-5 Spins

+4 Bullet

-0.02 AI

19 18 DAUGHTRY Crawling
Back To You 138 124 14 1.368

+1 Position

+4 Spins

0 Bullet

-0.032 AI

Canada-Country

41 40 SCOTTY MCCREERY The
Trouble With Gir… 119 126 -7 0.5

+3 Positions

+6 Spins

+5 Bullet

+0.036 AI

Nice audience increase for Casey!  More adds would have been nice, but I’ll take the two manual adds, especially the St. Louis add.  Top 30 is within reach.

Your welcome windmills 

Country adds (Monitored) (Does not include Canadian stations)

Lauren (8)-GP

Scotty (7)-TTWG

Casey J (2)-LDCIAN

Addboard

Great adds day for Lauren and Scotty.

CaseyJ gained almost 200k overnight which for him is big. Lauren had a few strong updates late in the week to ensure she should have a Billboard bullet too. Very nice adds week for her, and nice one for Scotty too. Casey’s inching towards that 90 station mark. 

I must say I am a bit suspicious of the big increase on the last day of the week for Billboard, and it is going to be difficult for Casey to retain those same numbers come next Monday.  

Monster (at least compared to lately) add day for Lauren and Scotty.

Oops something got messed when I copy and pasted! The last digits of each sales figure is actually supposed to be the rank for the next song. Sorry about that :p So it’s supposed to be:

1. Kelly Clarkson – Stronger: 246228
2. David Guetta & Nicki Minaj – Turn Me On: 188716
3. ADELE – Set Fire to the Rain: 185305

Casey should be in the top 30 next week. So great for him

Adds (Monitored)

Kelly (17)-WDKY (1 AC, 1 Canada-Main AC, 4 Canada-CHR/Pop, 9 HAC, 1 Rhythmic, 1 CHR/Pop)

Lauren (8)-Country

Scotty (7)-TTWG (Country)

JHud f/Ne-Yo (5)-TLAM (Urban)

Adam (4)-BTIKM (HAC)

Casey J (2)-LDCIAN (Country)

Mandisa (2)-WFT (Christian AC)

Daughtry (1)-CBTY (HAC)

Ruben (1)-June 28th (I’m Single) (Urban AC)

Addboard

There is a slight change with this update although you may not notice it at first.  The top 10 appears to not have changed at all.  Some of the other positions starting with Adele’s “19″ have slightly moved down 1 spot.

CHART DATE: 01/30/2012
LAST UPDATE: 01/30/2012 16:06:54
NOW IN: 55.94%

LW TW artist / album label power index
1 1 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 71,201
21
– 2 TIM MCGRAW CURB 37,644
EMOTIONAL TRAFFIC
– 3 2012 GRAMMY NOMINESS UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 30,673
VARIOUS ARTISTS
– 4 INGRID MICHAELSON CABIN 24/MOM + POP 22,444
HUMAN AGAIN
2 5 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 21,857
KIDZ BOP 21
– 6 LAMB OF GOD EPIC 17,370
RESOLUTION
– 7 KELLIE PICKLER BNA 14,842
100 PROOF
17 8 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 10,478
TAILGATES & TANLINES
11 9 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 10,056
HERE AND NOW
3 10 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,898
TAKE CARE

21 18 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 7,717
MY KINDA PARTY

14 20 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 7,615
STRONGER

29 22 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 7,040
CLEAR AS DAY

15 24 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 6,723
19

39 27 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA 4,599
BREAK THE SPELL

35 38 MAROON 5 A&M/OCTONE 3,736
HANDS ALL OVER

43 50 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 2,658
BORN THIS WAY

HDD Sales Chart

Thanks!  That makes a lot more sense now. 

I think ‘Time Marches On’ was the only song on Cooks album I could picture doing well on radio. Wish they had chosen it. Love the Album, but it is not radio material. Really enjoy David’s voice.

Note to self: Don’t read the blog while eating dinner.

…and the Jesus Is My Designated Driver song…

*almost choked~ ROFL

As for David Cook, I think having two songs in the HAC top 40 for the past 6 months isn’t that bad. And I know that neither the singles or the album were  big hits, but it’s good that the songs did chart , especially if it wasn’t radio friendly, whatever that means.  

I think that Let Me Fall for You could have been a hit, even as a lead single, but it was only in the deluxe album. I do wish they had released FIM sooner and had more promotion, as it performed almost as well as TLG without much promotion.   My radio station played it a lot more than they did TLG.

I also think that if they had released Circadian as the lead single it would have been a better representation of the album, but I’m not sure how it would do on the radio.

I love FIM and wish it could have been the lead.  The problem with not charting higher than Cook did this time is that he did very poorly in sales.  These big label albums are very expensive to make.  I read somewhere that 500,000 in album sales is breakeven point.  If this is true, RCA lost a lot of money this time.  Of course, he made them a lot of money era1.  He looks like he is working on album 3 which makes me happy as he is me second favorite idol.  He will not be able to have sales like this again I imagine and keep his label.

I think how much it takes to make the album depends on what type of artist they are.  I have read that for rock or alt rock, 100,000 is considered moderately succesful.

There was also an interview with RCA executives where they said they want to keep rock artists, even if they don’t have high sales, because they know they will make a lot with touring.   And I know some the RCA executives were very impressed with TLM. 

I’m glad that he’s working on the next album, also.

” I also think that if they had released Circadian as the lead single it
would have been a better representation of the album, but I’m not sure
how it would do on the radio, even though that isn’t always the most
important thing.”

I’ve thought the same about Circadian, or Paper Heart, TMO, pretty radio friendly songs to represent what the album is about. I can’t get my head around the charts, rock, HAC, CHR and their song-choices when I read them, some so mixed and controversial, hard to understand the today’s musical format-requirements for a song to go up to top 20, in any of them other than rhythm/dance.  I think if the album would have had  the same production as the first one, some of the songs might have had chances for some rock stations to play them Circadian, REM, RHWY, even GTTG,  with its actual production not so sure about the chances…

IMO – By and large, David’s musical output post Idol has not been considered rock or alt-rock.  TOML, CBTM, TLG AND FIM have kinda sealed his fate as a soft rock-ish pop balladeer. His wagon is hitched to the mainstream POP wagon leanings of AMERICAN IDOL – thus the expectations, right or wrong, regarding his sales, career, etc. are going to always be different from someone who is viewed as being more ‘organically rock’. How much or how economically feasible touring is for him is even in question after the tour with DeGraw and those solo dates. Haven’t seen a lot of Boxscore data yet, but there are reports that there was trouble selling out the small theaters and venues they played in – and Cook didn’t have any tour dates past early December, nor did he play any New Year’s gigs – and there has not been any info regarding an alleged tour overseas. Having executives say they’re impressed with a CD is one thing. They all seem to say pretty much the same inane meaningless things when a CD is being produced. Bottom line is they are still looking to turn a profit, make money off the artists production. We’re not privy to the financials regarding the CD, the monies spent, the breakeven point, etc. but my common sense isn’t buying that 100k CD’s sold from a former popular Idol winner after selling 1million plus is pleasing the bean counters… Just opining or asstalking, whichever one is preferred.

Klimat said:“How much or how economically feasible touring is for him is even in
question after the tour with DeGraw and those solo dates. Haven’t seen a
lot of Boxscore data yet, but there are reports that there was trouble
selling out the small theaters and venues they played in“

Frankly this part sounds a bit anecdotal to me. Do you have any sources for these reports? I know for a fact that the M&G`s and VIP`s sold briskly (some sellouts) at many of the venues. I don`t think that it is expected that every venue in every tiny town will be a sell out, particularly when there is a short turnaround between the ticket sales date or concert announcement, and the concert date (as was the case for this quickly put together tour), or if the concert is taking place on a weeknight, etc. It would be useful to have more of the ACTUAL numbers. I wonder what the the industry norm is, just out of curiousity?

I know this list is not comprehensive, but I just did a quick search at MJ`s of David Cook and Concert Stats, and this is what I came up with. Of the three that I could find easily, the only non-sellout still sold over a 1000 tickets, so that`s not too shabby, and I notice that one of the sell-outs was not a even a Cook and Degraw show.

David Cook
Council Bluffs, Iowa; Harrah’s Horseshoe Whiskey Roadhouse

Nov. 26, 2011

$16,250; 600 of 600 (SOLD-OUT); $25

Gavin DeGraw, David Cook
York, Pa., Canaan Smith Pullo Center

Nov. 5, 2011

$46,302; 983 of 983 (SOLD-OUT); $65, $48

Gavin DeGraw, David Cook

Columbus, Ohio: Newport Music Hall

Oct. 10, 2011

$25,504 : 1,012 of 1,400 (72%)

I couldn`t find a nice compilation of concert sales data, but I did find these interesting stats at DCO re. the Degraw Cook Tour. It looks like 74% of their concets were held in mid-size venues holding 1500 or more. I actually would have thought the majority of venues were much smaller than that:

250 – 600: 0 shows (0%)

600 – 1,000: 1 show (4%)

1,000 – 1,500: 5 shows (22%)

1,501 – 2,500: 10 shows (48%)

2,501 – 5,000: 4 shows (17%)

5,001 – 10,000: 1 show (4%)

10,001 – 20,000: 1 show (4%)

I agree about the shows from the last tour, many did well, especially on the east coast. and the VIP sold well, I followed the shows and this was asked.    I’ve heard Irving Plaza was nearly sold out too, and that is a very important and popular venue.

Hopefully the next album will do better, but I think he has a big enough audience to build upon.

The other songs on the album are much more alternative rock than the ones that were released.    And, as noted, the tour did ok, even though it was shorter than expected.

Any ideas why the solo part of the tour was so short? If the demand for tickets was there, it’s curious why it didn’t extend longer, I’d have thought at least till the end of the year. Has there been any addit’l news about the alleged tour overseas? The tour seemed so short, and some were under the assumption there would be some announcement of some tour dates overseas… lots of things about this era felt off, and as with anything, money and financial considerations must factor into a lot of these decisions regarding touring, promotion, etc. Not sure where the funding for financing tours draw from, but  if CD or singles sales help fund them, sales this era may have been ‘a problem’…

As evidenced by sales… the majority of the mainstream buying public didn’t buy or never heard the CD, and if RCA saw fit to release TLG and FIM to represent the CD on radio, and in promo appearances on TV… IMO there’s no way anyone would be left with the impression he was rock, alt rock, or anywhere in the rock arena W/those 2 songs. TLG nor FIM didn’t appear to entice or compel the casual listener to check the CD out, to discover those more ‘rock’ oriented songs.  This may have been a result of the way the CD was constructed. Doesn’t feel like there was an emphasis placed on crafting singles that may fit into the current pop or radio landscape – which is all good, but we may be seeing the result of that strategy in the low single and CD sales, and the poor radio reception both received this era. We’ll see what he comes back with on the next CD. Hopefully he finds the medium between retaining artistic integrity, and making music that appeals to the masses, or those beyond your core base.

<"Any ideas why the solo part of the tour was so short? …curious why it didn't extend longer, I'd have thought at least till the end of the year."

klimat, David’s habit for the last three years is to take the holidays off, and spend them and his birthday w/his family. In the past, he has negotiated the time by not taking more than a few random days off for the whole rest of the year. So the fandom did not expect dates past the end of the solo leg of The Loud Tour on 12/10 in 2011, although NYE was a thought. The ironic thing is, each time, he’s working anyway – but writing instead of gigging.

The only concrete news so far is progress reports on Twitter about the writing – David started posting them the day after he got back to LA from the Christmas break, on 1/09….the last one was on 1/25. That doesn’t stop speculation, of course – but so far, there are no other actual facts.

I know there are posters who have good information about the financing of tours, perhaps one of them will help with that question. 

But in my opinion,  except perhaps for one or two songs, the album as a whole  is a lot more pop rock leaning AC ballads than alternative. The melodies, production and even the lyrics are way too safe and generic to be considered alt rock.
FIM may be more extreme AC and TLG more pop, but are still not that far off the general album style.

FYI:  Just like yesterday, Mediabase has updated stats but All Access is asleep at the wheel again.  They of course finally updated stats late yesterday afternoon.  I hope this isn’t going to become a regular thing with them.

But in my opinion,  except perhaps for one or two songs, the album as a
whole  is a lot more pop rock leaning AC ballads than alternative…
FIM may be more extreme AC and TLG more pop…

FIM would have been fit for AC-radios, I don’t know why RCA didn’t send the song for that format too. Why not one for a rock format as they have done with Daughtry’s, Circadian for example. From the beginning RCA didn’t know what kind of artist he is and what to do with him, what king of music would be good for him for a good chemistry between voice-music-beat-rhythm. I’m thinking of Adele as example, her ballads are everywhere from rock to pop and she’s not the queen of AC or AAA only. I’m thinking about her because I think many DC songs are more on Adele’s verge, plus the voice, sure there is more to change, but this is my association. Adele has made her own style of slow and few medium-slow songs to make sure she’s able to sing on tour for more than 1h and to put in evidence her voice; she can’t dance, rapid-songs would leave her breathless, so “artistry” would be the key. Well, talking of beat this is the key of Adele’s success, a 1,2,3 waltz beat would be too boring and old-fashion, and for her help for stage presence her music is for moving her hands and snap the fingers in a gospely, bluesy style; she knows who she is and how much she can offer. She can’t be an opera singer, for R&B should have those special trills and runs, so she has mastered her style of keep it simple, snap beat, her voice evident next to piano and an artist has been born.
In contrast with her, DC music is more complicated, his sometimes operatic voice by elonged notes covered to put in evidence his friends instrumental abilities, the beat more old fashioned or doesn’t exist… If he would keep it simple, with some rhythm for the tour-concert comfortability and thinking more for himself maybe he would have more success. Only some thoughts.

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