Monday Morning Mediabase Update: Jan 16-22

I thought James’ single officially went Top 40 on Active Rock last week?

I think these stats are for last week – I think he went above #40 middle of last week or so. But I may be wrong.

Whatever happened to Daughtry’s other single?  I thought he released two singles with one to rock radio like James Durbin did.  Isn’t it charting at all anymore?  I think it was Renegade.  I never see it listed on the charts.

Look at Kelly!!! She is all over the charts!

Daughtry’s Renegade made it to the top 20 of one of the rock charts. I guess it already fell off whatever chart it was on. It was sent to Rock sometime in September.

Next week should be fun as things start happening for Adam on the charts!

Congratulations to Kelly and James I didn’t even know there was an Active Rock chart… who knew.

Congratulations, Clay!  Hope you keep movin’ on up.

Turns out it’s unclear whether BTIKM pop add date is tomorrow or next week. All access has it as 1/24 but FMQB still has it as 1/31.

I just looked at the mediabase charts and was astonished to see that none of Daughtry’s singles is on either the Mainstream Rock or the Active Rock charts. I have heard Renegade played on the radio at times but maybe it wasn’t officially released by the label? I don’t know. It’s the best song on his new album IMO.

Btw, anyone have any idea what the difference is between Mainstream and Active Rock? I thought Mainstream was softer rock but looking at the charts there are some pretty heavy rock groups on it so my assumption was wrong.

Go James!

And tomorrow is the official kickoff for both of James’ Stand Up videos–the sports version on ESPN.com and the music version. I’m especially excited to see the sports version and am hoping it gives Stand Up additional lift.

The more I think of it, the more astonishing Kelly’s accomplishment is. How many current pop artists have this much radio popularity after 10 years.

She seems to know exactly what the listening public wants to hear. My tween and teen girls *love* her songs, so she is even reaching the younger crowd.

Whatever happened to Daughtry’s other single?  I thought he
released two singles with one to rock radio like James Durbin did. 
Isn’t it charting at all anymore?  I think it was Renegade.  I never see
it listed on the charts.

“Renegade” charted on the Mainstream Rock chart (there are 3 Rock charts, Mainstream, Active and Alternative), but fell off the chart before Christmas. The song peaked at 18 on that chart.

Btw, anyone have any idea what the difference is between Mainstream
and Active Rock? I thought Mainstream was softer rock but looking at the
charts there are some pretty heavy rock groups on it so my assumption
was wrong.

I suspect only their mothers can tell them apart.

Both Mainstream and Active play modern and classic rock, but Mainstream has a higher ratio of Mainstream and Active has a higher ratio of modern. Active is supposed to be a little harder edged as well.

It did. It was 38 one day. With the video coming out tomorrow, and the promo shifting from LMB to Stand Up, I’ll be curious to see how high up the charts it will climb.

Another big gain for Stronger on CHR

29 24 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) 2956 1557 1399
16.985
+215 Spins
+1 Bullet
+1.415 Audience

I think these stats are for last week – I think he went above #40 middle of last week or so. But I may be wrong.

The official chart is released on Sunday evening, so know his song is officially top 40.  We see the rolling chart every day, since Pam posts it, but those are not the numbers that Mediabase uses to show a song’s peaks.

There have been cases where an idol alum has hit a milestone during the middle of the week on the rolling chart, but the song fell before the official weekly chart was released.

Here’s my list: P!nk, Usher, Britney (altough she’s never been as popular on radio as she’s in real life), Beyonce (with Destiny’s Child at that time), Eminem, Alicia Keys, Jay Z and Coldplay. All those acts are still at the top or very close.
After that it gets a little iffy altough Shakira, Nelly, Avril, Xtina, Madonna or Jlo are still able to produce hits.

It’s very possible that I’ve forgotten some artists.

I think there are lots and lots of performers who have made it beyond a decade…the deal is that they may not be “pop” right now.  With the advent of FM radio (and satellite, online streaming) and the ability for more folks to get to listen to what they want rather than what is force fed them on a couple of Top 40 stations in each town (oh shades of the 60s) it isn’t all about Top 40 (even though some folks still think that is the only game in town).

There are 10 major formats besides CHR that are charted (albeit each being smaller than Top 40 but I would guess taken in toto have more listeners) and then their are those that listen to jazz, classical, disney, and (yes) golden oldies from pop, rock, metal, mo-town, and the list goes on.

I get so tired of EVERYTHING being measured as though Top 40 were the only game in town…it may have an impact on “pop” culture just like it has for 60 years but it isn’t the only thing that makes or breaks a recording super-star.

CHR/Pop
29 24 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn… 2956 1557 1399 16.985
+3 Positions
+215 Spins
+1 Bullet
+1.415 AI

26 25 KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 2772 3554 -782 13.558
+1 Position
-70 Spins
+85 Bullet
-0.189 AI

47 46 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 446 485 -39 1.52
+3 Positions
-9 Spins
-7 Bullet
-0.068 AI

HAC
1 4 KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 3957 4402 -445 25.414
-36 Spins
-19 Bullet
-0.124 AI

9 7 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 3173 3166 7 16.836
-6 Spins
-28 Bullet
+0.014 AI

21 16 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn… 1712 903 809 11.831
+1 Position
+102 Spins
-9 Bullet
+1.020 AI

38 38 DAVID COOK Fade Into Me 228 281 -53 0.585
+2 Positions
-8 Spins
+1 Bullet
-0.030 AI

45 42 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M… 201 147 54 0.723
+2 Positions
+14 Spins
+3 Bullet
+0.057 AI

46 48 JAMES DURBIN Love Me Bad 132 136 -4 0.241
+2 Positions
+4 Spins
+3 Bullet
-0.039 AI

AC
6 5 KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 1241 1161 80 11.744
+16 Spins
+13 Bullet
+0.113 AI

10 9 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 781 791 -10 4.563
+1 Position
+4 Spins
+10 Bullet
+0.090 AI

16 16 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 252 211 41 0.823
+1 Position
+5 Spins
+2 Bullet
+0.002 AI

31 29 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn… 43 33 10 0.129
-1 Position
-4 Spins
-12 Bullet
-0.006 AI

48 37 CLAY AIKEN Bring Back My Love 21 10 11 0.013
+1 Spin
-2 Bullet
0 AI

Country
21 22 SCOTTY MCCREERY The Trouble With Gir… 1862 1791 71 11.463
+1 Position
+44 Spins
+34 Bullet
+0.221 AI

32 33 CASEY JAMES Let’s Don’t Call It … 913 913 0 4.318
+1 Position
-2 Spins
-5 Bullet
-0.078 AI

37 38 LAUREN ALAINA Georgia Peaches 608 623 -15 3.169
-13 Spins
-18 Bullet
-0.088 AI

Active Rock
40 43 JAMES DURBIN Stand Up 132 179 -47 0.125
-1 Position
-22 Spins
-52 Bullet
-0.043 AI

Urban AC
17 16 JENNIFER HUDSON I Got This 471 443 28 2.287
+1 Position
+20 Spins
+25 Bullet
+0.068 AI

33 27 RUBEN STUDDARD June 28th (I’m Singl… 155 100 55 0.557
+2 Positions
+4 Spins
-7 Bullet
+0.021 AI

Christian AC
6 4 MANDISA Waiting For Tomorrow 886 849 37 3.305
+8 Spins
-5 Bullet
+0.015 AI
 
Canada-CHR/Pop
80 43 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn… 202 74 128 1.326
+1 Position
+24 Spins
+17 Bullet
+0.199 AI

Canada-HAC
10 16 KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 498 603 -105 3.529
-14 Spins
-3 Bullet
-0.18 AI

28 20 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn… 391 249 142 2.409
+1 Position
+23 Spins
+16 Bullet
+0.103 AI

26 27 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 256 301 -45 0.981
+2 Positions
-4 Spins
+2 Bullet
-0.011 AI

51 44 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M… 126 107 19 1.402
+1 Position
-3 Spins
-16 Bullet
-0.04 AI

Canada-Main AC
3 4 KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 317 345 -28 2.776
-1 Position
-9 Spins
-12 Bullet
-0.118 AI

22 19 DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 124 104 20 1.274
+2 Positions
+4 Spins
+7 Bullet
+0.039 AI

Canada-Country
41 41 SCOTTY MCCREERY The Trouble With Gir… 126 131 -5 0.463
+1 Position
+1 Spin
+9 Bullet
+0.007 AI

I was answering a question about artists who could still top the pop charts ten years after they broke through. That was a relevant question because pop has the reputation of being a format that gives an advantage to young artists.

IA that there are a lot of others acts who are still at the top of their genre after a decade. In classical music, Mozart or Beethoven are probably the most popular artists and sell the most cds 300 years later.

I could be wrong but from what I can tell:

Mainstream tends to play the bigger more well known acts. Active and Alternative are more likely to give newcomers no one’s heard of airplay. Daughtry can get straight onto Mainstream, James has to chart high on Active first before Mainstream will play him. Mainstream will play a mix of hard and softer rock, Active plays harder stuff (Seether, Disturbed, Five Finger Death Punch) whilst Alternative plays softer, more “poppier” stuff (Kings of Leon, Muse, Green Day).

I could be wrong but from what I can tell:

Mainstream tends to play the bigger more well known acts. Active and Alternative are more likely to give newcomers no one’s heard of airplay. Daughtry can get straight onto Mainstream, James has to chart high on Active first before Mainstream will play him. Mainstream will play a mix of hard and softer rock, Active plays harder stuff (Seether, Disturbed, Five Finger Death Punch) whilst Alternative plays softer, more “poppier” stuff (Kings of Leon, Muse, Green Day).

I didn’t mean to imply that “you” were one of those that are all about Top 40, so I apologize if I “over stepped”.  I just get very defensive about music being all about Top 40…which I haven’t listened to for a year or so because the choice of sound has been so excruciatingly bad, for the most part.

Hope that clarifies things. 

46 48 JAMES DURBIN Love Me Bad 132 136 -4 0.241+2 Positions+4 Spins+3 Bullet-0.039 AI

I thought the first number was last weeks chart and the next number was thise weeks so if last week James was at 46 and now he’s at 48 how did he gain 2 spots?  Am I confused?  or was he at 50 yesterday and back up to 48 this morning? 

or was he at 50 yesterday and back up to 48 this morning?

That’s it.  The first line is the last seven days, and the rest is the one day change.

Just an fyi…Adam’s single is not yet officially released for Pop Radio yet…The record label and Adam have just started promoting the song as of last week and if any of you saw him on Leno and Ellen…OMG…amazing song..amazing vocals…This man is truly gifted vocally and performance wise, more so than any former Idol I have ever seen.  Saw Adam live…nothing short of outstanding…he is even better live.

I like Durbin…but please…when this man learns some humility…then I will support him…Good example…Adam tweeted him…great job on Conan…any reply?  No….Durbin is so stuck on himself it is annoying…that is what turned me off from voting for him on Idol…He can sing fairly well..but seems to be patting himself on the back constantly.

Are adds out yet?  I’m scared for Adam.

Umm . . .he said thanks back.  

james actually replied to him: DurbinRock
James Durbin @adamlambert thank you

I thought James said thank you back to Adam?  Now I’m confused.  What did Adam’s fans want other than thank you?

DurbinRock James Durbin@
@adamlambert thank you
13 Jan

The label released the song to all formats weeks ago, and RCA has been promoting it to radio.  On that note, the song was played on 8 pop stations last week, four of which are owned by Clear Channel, a company that looked like it would push the song hard.  It was played in several major pop and HAC markets including Philadelphia and Dallas. 

I think that some Adam fans may have wanted James to tweet Adam about how great he was on Leno and Ellen.  lol  As an Adam fan, I have no problem with James acknowledging Adam’s tweet with a simple ‘thank you’.  That was fine, IMO, and James is under no obligation to watch or like Adam’s performances.

@DurbinRockJames Durbin 
@adamlambert thank you

Why do you say “looked like it would push the song hard?”   I don’t follow the charts that closely so I don’t know.   Were they planning to push the song hard and have now changed their mind?

Also, didn’t the song get released during the XMAS freeze to radio?   So didn’t that mean there wasn’t much chance for spins during that time?   And then we had the New Year countdown songs followed by the current hit songs on various formats regaining their spins?

Is this song getting written off already before the official adds date?

I could care less if Durbin even responded to Adam’s tweet.   I do think some fans believe Durbin should have tweeted about one of Adam’s performances on Leno or Ellen, but I’m not one of them.   Really, if they never communicate again, that is ok by me.   

True, he’s not, also James is travelling to radio stations around the country ATM so he isn’t getting to watch much TV. I’m sure he was busy performing somewhere during the Leno and Ellen performances and of course when he’s not performing he’s usually rehearsing or doing interviews.

Here are adds so far today (monitored stations only):

Kelly:
(WDKY) Stronger – 9 (4 Hot AC, 3 Top 40, 1 Canada Hot AC, 1 Canada Top 40)
MKIA – 1 (1 Hot AC)

Casey J:
LDCIAN – 5 (5 Country)

Adam:
BTIKM – 3 (1 Top 40, 2 Canada Hot AC)

Lauren:
GP – 3 (3 Country)

Daughtry:
CBTY – 1 (1 Hot AC)

Who cares about if Durbin likes Adam’s performance or cares about them?  It’s not like he’s someone with influence.  I agree with you, if they never communicate again, I’d be more than fine.

“Is this song getting written off already before the official adds date?”

***

LOL! Yes! Because that is what happens in the Idol bubble!

I don’t think anyone wants to write BTIKM off before the adds date, but the situation isn’t looking too bright right now. Yes, the song was released to radio just before Christmas freeze and countdowns, but radio stations still had enough time to check out the song.

When it was initially released, the blogosphere was really excited about it and it looked like the stations were too. But since then, the song simply lost it’s momentum. It didn’t get many spins and early adds so far. It’s not that we expected huge numbers, but still, it doesn’t look good. Stations can play and add songs before the add date.

I have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. I was hoping RCA’s people did their homework and picked the right single, but now I’m in doubt.

Just kind of seems a shame to me – as a fan of both Adam and James myself, it seems to me that every time these two try to have any contact with each other at all fans end up interfering.  They seem like they are fine with each other, and I’m happy about that, but even if they weren’t I would still love them both.  They don’t have to be best friends for me to be their fan.

Why do you say “looked like it would push the song hard?”   I don’t follow the charts that closely so I don’t know.   Were they planning to push the song hard and have now changed their mind?

I said “looked”, because I don’t know if they will or won’t, but the fact that they played the song on some stations in major markets is a good sign.  That along with the early signs of support from CC stations seemed to point to the idea that those stations would be a leader in playing the song.

 I do think some fans believe Durbin should have tweeted about one of Adam’s performances on Leno or Ellen, but I’m not one of them. 

How do these fans know that James saw the Ellen or Leno performances?  While fans may have a lot of free time to spend following every move and appearance that AI alums make, the same isn’t true for those who are working at starting their careers.

`LOL! Yes! Because that is what happens in the Idol bubble!

No, what happens is that people jump to their own conclusions, and don’t actually read or respond to what was written.  At least that’s what happened in this case.  

This is so ridiculous, I was posting positive news about the song, that CC played the song on some of their major market stations.  Usually, those stations only add a song when it has reached top 20, so those early spins, along with the support that Clear Channel showed when the song was first released could be a sign that CC will be given the song a major push.

That’s cool, i didn’t know that about the CC stations.  I hope that turns out to be true (that they’ll add the song before top 20)–I really don’t know a ton about this stuff, but it seems like RCA has a plan and that stations like the song.  Whether it works out, who knows, but that seems like a good start.  

I didn’t watch Adam’s performances or Durbin’s performances on TV because I was too busy, but I did watch them on-line.   I have a job and work pretty hard, too lol.    I think Adam watched a recorded version of Durbin’s performance, because hey, he’s busy too.  

Really, it doesn’t matter.  I like Durbin and I really don’t care if he doesn’t like Adam.  Perhaps Durbin doesn’t like the song and doesn’t want to say anything negative?  Really, it’s no biggie.  

These are all the adds BTIKM has gotten before its adds date. Looks pretty darn great considering we are only 2-3 weeks out of the holiday freezes, countdowns, etc. (2 are from today because I didn’t feel like editiing)

ETA: Crap! I had to delete that, it was way too long. Anyway, there were 30 there. Adam is not Kelly, YET! As an Adam stan, I am thrilled with the progress of BTIKM!

hahah, it’s getting so ridiculous…i think James should ask Adam’s fans, “what do u want from me? what do you want from me?” lol 

Based on the average, current top 10 songs on Top 40 have been on the chart for 130 days, top 20 110 days. And HAC is eerily similar.  Adam Lambert has been on the HAC chart for 10 days and he is #42….and he hasn’t broken onto the pop charts yet.

Now Kelly has been on the pop chart for 15 days with Stronger and it is up to # 24 (go Kelly).  But the #10 song has been on the chart for 208 days (7 months).  I think all of this points out that “charting” is not always done swiftly and that there are lots of scenerios for climbing up the charts and for most it does take some time.

If he asked me, I would say nothing.  LOL

i found something funny about Idols yesterday. Before pictures. Just if MJ want to make a post.

http://www.celebuzz.com/photos/american-idols-before-they-were-stars/krisallensrbabyphoto2/ 

Moved

I wrote the link in another thread. I thought it was headlines here.

I don’t think that it’s all of the fans on either side or even most of them, but just some of the “typical”, rabid Idol fans who want to continue a perceived conflict beyond the show.  TBH, I think that the only reason why Adam watched the video of James on Conan was because 19 tweeted about it, whereas they didn’t tweet about Adam’s performances, so James may not even be aware that they happened.  

***Gives elliegirl a hug*** LOL

So now that it is a forgone conclusion that Kelly’s song will smash I am officially bored with tracking it. Yay for Kelly, but onto the next one! Heh! Adam, you are up! Come on adds!

My prediction: should be a good day at HAC, not sure how things will go on pop. Fingers crossed!

Based on the average, current top 10 songs on Top 40 have been on the chart for 130 days, top 20 110 days. And HAC is eerily similar.

Songs on HAC have the reputation for hanging around longer than the ones on pop, so it’s surprise if the numbers are similar.  And since it takes fewer spins to break into the top 40 and top 20 on HAC, their climbs seem to be faster than the ones on pop, at least to a certain point.  Because songs hang around for a while, the climb into the top 15 and beyond can take longer.

How do these fans know that James saw the Ellen or Leno performances?
 While fans may have a lot of free time to spend following every move
and appearance that AI alums make, the same isn’t true for those who are
working at starting their careers.

They don’t.  lol  IMO, there’s no point to trying to apply logic to rabid fans of anyone who are thinking/behaving illogically.

10 Best Selling songs in the world in 2011, according to IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry):

Bruno Mars – Just The Way You Are (12.5 million)
Bruno Mars – Grenade (10.2 million)
LMFAO – Party Rock Anthem (9.7 million)
Jennifer Lopez – On the Floor (8.4 million)
Lady Gaga – Born This Way (8.2 million)
Adele – Rolling in the Deep (8.2 million)
Pitbull ft. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer – Give me Everything (8.2 million)
Black Eyed Peas – The Time (Dirty Bit) (7.3 million)
Maroon 5 – Moves Like Jagger (7.0 million)
Bruno Mars – The Lazy Song (6.5 million)

Read the report here: http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/DMR2012_key_facts_and_figures.pdf

http://kworb.net/radio/a
Where I got my numbers….

I refuse to angst over Adam’s single. Today is the first official add day and it’s not even over. The buzz from music industry peeps has been very positive but it’s going to take time. I believe the song is good enough to do “well” or better than “well” on the charts but it won’t get there over night. If this song has gone no where by the time his Album drops then I’ll worry. I didn’t expect the song to go any where on radio during the holidays. My guess is the early release was just for the fans to get something before the holidays. If nothing else his label has good idea of what he can sell in the states just on his current fan base. So far we’ve only heard what he sold in singles? not how many album pre-orders he got?

There is always fan wank when one Idol doesn’t tweet another Idol to congratulate him or her on a performance, an album release, an award, etc. I’m not sure why any of them have to do any of this. If they are friends, they are likely calling or texting them privately, not tweeting them. If they aren’t friends or don’t even know each other, they may not have any clue about what’s going on in another singer’s career. All of them are really really busy with their own lives and careers, so it would be very difficult for them to be able to keep up with what is going on in anyone else’s career.

 It was nice of Adam to comment on James’ performance, but he was under no obligation to do so. And James tweeted his thanks. So what’s the problem?

Just DAMN at Bruno Mars. I also had no idea JLO did that well worldwide. Once again giving that Pitbull song the side eye. Heh.

The Stand Up promo is a very short window. I don’t expect a huge boost on the charts. But we will see what happens. I expect, unless they continue LMB promo, that it will continue to fall. I wonder what the plans are regarding the next single? Love In Ruins seems to be what we are hearing the label wants – and James has mentioned it as his favorite song to perform on the album. The metal-oriented fans want Higher Than Heaven. I like both songs.

James replied to Adam – he tweeted thank you back to him. What more is required?

Love in Ruins is a good song, but it seems so Aerosmith’s oriented. I think HTH is heavy but still got a good hook. And there are a lot of other songs in the album with a good hook. I’m just afraid of LIR because it reminds 100% Aerosmith and it can be branded as copycat. 

I doubt James has even seen Adam’s recent performances. He is on the road, and I doubt he is keeping up with whatever Adam is up to. It was very nice of Adam to congratulate him on the performance, however. And James acknowledged that.

As a James fan, I feel the same way. Why should they communicate? I prefer they don’t.

Adam can sing the heck out of a song. But I suspect there are more interesting songs on that album.

That is a very cute response. Thanks for injecting that humor!

It’s not a question whether Adam can sing the heck out of a song. The reality is that the radio doesn’t care because many artists that can barely sing or can’t sing at all get a lot of airplay.

I don’t think Adam is too concerned over James’ lack of tweet, lol. He has gotten plenty of kudos from fans and media for those performances.
I reeally don’t think fans need to worry too much about BTIKM. From the responses to the album from the UK, I think they know they have a possible BIG album with Trespassing. They are going to push BTIKM with all they have and then they are going to gung ho with one of the other tracks the reviewers are in a tizzy over like Cuckoo or Trespassing.

Yeah, but you are extrapolating that without much facts.  I’m not seeing this push y’all are seeing.  I love Adam, but I’m feeling a bit more pessimistic today.

Considering BTIKM is just outside the Top 40 on Hot AC prior to its official add date, I’m not sure why anyone  is worried — at least about its performance in that format. The question is how it will do on Top 40 — because that (along with   CHR Rhythmic and Urban) is still the format that helps to sell the most downloads

As a rock music fan I think HTH is the best song on James album and its really the song I thought they should have released as a single

I almost forgot that the MV for BTIKM is due out very soon. MVs have given Adam’s song great boosts. MTV and especially VH1 have been very supportive of Adam so I sure he will do well there. MTV is more on board after the EMAs too. In fact MTV-UK just posted another excellent review on the Trespassing tracks.
http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/adam-lambert/344038-adam-lambert-trespassing-first-listen#.Tx2Ww3tJPYw.twitter

Well I am defiantly not angsting I am way to excited for this era!!

Bruno Mars is a beast! Almost 30 million copies of only 3 songs worldwide!

I’m surprised Katy Perry isn’t on that list. I wonder, is she not as popular outside the US?

BTIKM will probably do OK’ish on HAC, but I just really don’t see it going anywhere on CHR. I have tried, and I have tried, but I just can’t like the song. He has been singing the crap out of it, and of course has been looking fantastic doing so, but it is just not a great song. IMO. Hope I’m wrong. I am going to make a prediction that I like every other song on Trespassing better than BTIKM. I wonder if it was his choice for first single, or if it was strictly an RCA decision?

Is today the adds day for BTIKM on HAC or is it next week? Because if today is the day, it’s off to a soft start. I’m assuming tomorrow is the CHR adds date? Or am I wrong?

How did his album do…or is he just a single seller?

girlygirl: IDK either. After watching the charts over the past few years, I’ve learned that every song in the top 10 or 20 takes a completely different path to get there. LLWD and WWFM almost gave me an ulcer, but look at how they turned out! This time around with Adam’s new single and Kris’s soon-to-be released single, I’ve decided to take a page from the past and not expect too much too soon. Even though IIHY didn’t make it to the top 10 on CHR or the BB 100, it still had a great run. That song was “dead and buried” a hundred times over! lol

At least Kelly’s journey has been easier and more fun to follow this era! Although many called her MKIA an underperformer for weeks due to the fact that its itunes ranking didn’t match its position on the charts. I would daresay MKIA more than did its job as a lead in single and now look at the second single!

Don’t adds come in the evening? I think I saw somewhere that he already got a CHR add? Don’t remember what station.

no HAC add date is today, While I am not expectly Kelly numbers I am not worried either.  Also there is only 18% reporting. I’m sure we can hold off on the “angsting” for at least a few weeks yet

Answered my own question about Bruno.  Sales of 1.5 million in the U.S. 1.1 million in the UK since October 2010.

Also didn’t realize he had been around since ’04 and back-doored into prominence by his song writing.  Good for him.

I’m not sure what Adam fans are upset with Durbin’s response/non-response. I’m not & no one I know has mentioned it.

I agree that RCA thinks that they have a great album with Trespassing, but are they cutting it off at the knees with a meh first single, released in the Doldrums of January? Honestly, my head will explode if this sabotages the album.

You have to forgive me, I’m just a little cynical about RCA’s judgement when it comes to my favorite Idols lately. I’m glad that Kelly seems to be turning things around with Stronger, but she has a a HUGE amount of goodwill built up with both the radio stations and the public. It seems like a brilliant strategy now, but MKIA could have been a disaster. Fortunately she was all over the TV and awards shows all Fall, and that generated momentum and kept her in the public eye. But will Adam have that same luxury? He has probably already had his two best promotional opportunities for BTIKM with Leno and Ellen. Idol might be too late for this first single. I don’t know. Monday morning pessimism?

It is “wash, rinse, repeat” in idol land when it comes to singles, lol. It will never change.

Well Adam just spent two days in San Fransisco doing interviews. He already did a bunch of foreign press interviews and photo shoots but a lot of that hasn’t been released yet. He’s just been on TV twice. He’s doing more interviews today. Soon he’ll be in Europe doing press and Radio station shows. His management has had multiple listening parties in the UK which have gotten him a lot of good press. The push is just beginning but it’s there. Since his time is split between US and international press his push may look a little diluted here in the States but I think it’s good.

I think the deadline for HAC adds is 6PM EST today, But lots of stations seem to add sonsg at the very last minute.

I wonder if it was his choice for first single, or if it was strictly an RCA decision?

I read an UK review the other say, PopJustice I think.  That made a comment about how BTIKM was a good gateway song between FYE and Trespassing.  It is similar type of song as WWFM Adam’s biggest hit.  That was a hit all over the world.  Yet as almost everyone has said they like better than WWFM.  Yet it is still more current.  Since Adam hasn’t been on the radio in awhile and most people will likely remember WWFM over IIHY because 1) it was a bigger hit and 2) still gets played abit.  It makes sense to remind people.

At least it makes to me lol YMMV

I wish I could find that review

I think RCA expected the song to get adds through January. They did a lot of advance work, making sure DJs/PDs heard it and tweeted about it, getting the song good write-ups, etc. I don’t think it was a bad strategy so to speak… but perhaps the song was not as immediate as they thought. Shit happens.

Still, I think we have to at least let today and tomorrow come and go. If it gets decent traction with adds this week things can work out fine in the long run.

Yip that’s my concern too, cue the “parody” comments. That and the fact that it sounds dated, it’s not current enough, not even for HAC. It’s a better song than LMB & SU so should do better but James needs a hit, and I just don’t have as much faith in it being a hit as HTH because HTH is current and has a stronger hook.

Casey J:
LDCIAN – 5 (5 Country)

Sorry to break into the Adam angst, but this made me really happy – I think CaseyJ has survived the Xmas freeze. Whew.

Stations often spend time interviewing someone but then don’t play their song!

LOL Like Ryan Seacrest. I never care much for his interviews. It always feels like he’s really just trying to make fun of the person instead of enjoying a conversation with them. IMO

Well I’m happy about Kelly! (at least) and hope this single can help album sales. Though of course other artists have not had that translate to that, so who knows?

The add stuff with Adam doesn’t seem good. But we’ll see. Good luck to him. 

CHART DATE: 01/23/2012
LAST UPDATE: 01/23/2012 11:43:09
NOW IN: 54.02%

LWTWartist / albumlabelpower index
1 1ADELEXL/COLUMBIA43,406
21
— 2 KIDZ BOP KIDSRAZOR & TIE2 8,646
KIDZ BOP 21
12 3 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG 13,038
CLANCY’S TAVERN
4 4 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 10,493
TAKE CARE
8 5 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 10,309
HERE AND NOW
7 6 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 9,193
TALK THAT TALK
10 7 NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 40 CAPITOL/EMI 8,797
VARIOUS ARTISTS
6 8 YOUNG JEEZY DEF JAM/IDJ 8,730
TM 103: HUSTLER AMBITION
21 9 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 8,377
TAILGATES & TANLINES
17 10 LMFAO INTERSCOPE 7,724
SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING

1113 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 6,801
STRONGER

2314 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 6,733
MY KINDA PARTY

34 15 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 6,559
CLEAR AS DAY

15 17 ADELEXL/COLUMBIA 5,450
19

36 25 DAUGHTRY19/RCA 4,272
BREAK THE SPELL

35 29 MAROON 5A&M/OCTONE 4,116
HANDS ALL OVER

46 34 MIRANDA LAMBERT RCA NASHVILLE 3,299
FOUR THE RECORD

5 50 SNOW PATROL ISLAND/IDJMG 1,351
FALLEN EMPIRES

HDD Sales Chart

Idol Chatter Idol Airplay: Kelly Clarkson lands ‘Idol’ airplay 1-2 punch
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2012/01/kelly-clarkson-lands-idol-airplay-1-2-punch/1 

TW/LW
1 1 Kelly Clarkson, Mr. Know It All (10070 spins) (#5 AC, #4 Hot AC, #25 Top 40)
2 6 Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) (5077) (#27 AC, #16 Hot AC, #26 Top 40)
3 2 Daughtry, Crawling Back To You (4826) (#16 AC, #7 Hot AC)
4 3 Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson, Don’t You Wanna Stay (2990) (#9 AC)
5 5 Scotty McCreery, The Trouble With Girls (2714) (#22 Country)
6 4 Brad Paisley/Carrie Underwood, Remind Me (2696)
7 7 Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (2427)
8 8 Adam Lambert, Whataya Want From Me (1554)
9 9 Daughtry, Home (1421)
10 11 Daughtry, September (1227)
====================================
15 15 Casey James, Let’s Don’t Call It A Night (1068) (#33 Country)
19 19 Kris Allen, Live Like We’re Dying (921)
21 25 Mandisa, Waiting For Tomorrow (891) (#4 Christian AC)
22 24 Lauren Alaina, Georgia Peaches (879) (#37 Country)
35 35 Jennifer Hudson, I Got This (512) (#16 Urban AC)
40 49 Adam Lambert, Better Than I Know Myself (436)
49 45 David Cook, Fade Into Me (274) (#38 Hot AC)
52 53 Scotty McCreery, I Love You This Big (240)
54 51 James Durbin, Love Me Bad (226)
57 72 Ruben Studdard, June 28th (I’m Single) (193) (#27 Urban AC)
62 60 James Durbin, Stand Up (165) (#39 Active Rock)
70 70 Lauren Alaina, Like My Mother Does (97)
79 82 Kellie Pickler, Tough (61)
84 NA Jennifer Hudson, Think Like A Man f/Ne-Yo (42)
89 86 Daughtry, Renegade (30)
100 NA Clay Aiken, Bring Back My Live (21) (#36 AC)

And its taken him 133 days to get to number 33.  Patience is an absolute virtue in Idol land.  My station is NOW playing him.

Is today the adds day for BTIKM on HAC or is it next week? Because if today is the day, it’s off to a soft start. I’m assuming tomorrow is the CHR adds date? Or am I wrong

It’s too early in the day to guess how many HAC adds BTIKM will get today.  It looks like Mediabase may be having some problems, since only 23.9% of the stations have reported.  Even with the Clear Channel pop stations spins last week, I still think that the song will get a lot of HAC adds today, and more than likely, have more HAC adds than pop adds for the week.

More importantly, the songs fate isn’t going to be decided by what happens today.  If songs don’t add the song today or tomorrow, that doesn’t mean that they won’t add it in the days, weeks and months to come.

Not everyone agrees that BTIKM is “meh”. The only place I have really seen this is view is on Idol boards. Reviewers loved the song and so do many fans. I for one love it. It is a great song, IMO. The lyrics are simple but intense, it has a great hook, the vocals are second to none and the production is first rate. The Leno and Ellen performances proved that if the song gets heard it sells. I really think RCA has radio covered we just are not privy to behind the scenes work.

Soundscan numbers at 54% last week were pretty damn similar for Kelly and Scotty.  Kelly ended up with 16k and Scotty 10k.  We’ll see how this week goes.

If us metal-oriented fans had our way we would’ve picked Liberate or Back For More. Back For More is incredible, I still can’t believe they didn’t include it the album. It’s that perfect mix of rock & dance that Foster the People tries to achieve with Torches but ends up still sounding too poppy.

I agree, it’s just my opinion, and lots of fans and non-fans do seem to love it. I do think a fair number of other Adam fans aren’t enamored with the song either though.

I think RCA expected the song to get adds through January. They did a lot of advance work, making sure DJs/PDs heard it and tweeted about it, getting the song good write-ups, etc. I don’t think it was a bad strategy so to speak… but perhaps the song was not as immediate as they thought. Shit happens.

This is the only thing that I find surprising, especially since it seems like a lot of stations gave it test spins early, or at least during the first few days that it was out.  It’s what I was talking about with Clear Channel showing early support, but that support didn’t translate into them adding the song early, which is what I thought would happen.  

And before it’s said, that doesn’t mean that they won’t add the song today, or in the weeks to come, it just seemed like their early support meant that they were going to be a leader, and try to get other stations to play the song.

Yes – hope that keeps up leading up to his album in March. Go Casey!

Another good review from the UK:
MSN Music UK

Heard some of Adam
Lambert’s new album. Very hush-hush as it’s not out for a while. I
predict Trespassing will be a HUGE dancefloor hit!

OK, for you number peeps, how many HAC and Top40 Adds consider good for Lambert’s song this week?

All these Trespassing listening parties in the UK indicate that RCA has big plans for the album. so at least they seem serious. But, if they can’t get the radio (at least in the US) to play the first single … We’ve seen how RCA and Jive handled TLG and SBL. Even when it was clear the songs won’t get anywhere on the radio, they didn’t switch the single. So no, I don’t trust RCA with Idols.

I agree that if the song gets heard it will sell. IIRC it jumped over 700 spots on iTunes after the Leno/Ellen performances.

Adds came in late, last week. It was about 6:10 Eastern time when all of a sudden Adam’s 12 adds appeared.

Leno and Ellen aren’t the best as far as promotional opportunities go. There are still many other nighttime and daytime talk shows, Idol, The Voice, DWTS, etc. You never know where promotional opportunities are going to crop up or present themselves.

One of the biggests promo positives Adam has is the fact that his mvs seem to have a pretty big impact on promoting his singles. VH1 may be on board with putting the BTIKM mv on a high rotation cycle early on. Also, we may see lots of early clips and promo from places like ET when they release the mv for BTIKM. Anything like this is excellent promo and helps in the long run.

It really is too early to say what the best promo opportunities will turn out to be!

Oh I don’t know, more than none? LOL

I’d be happy with 7-10 at HAC. That seems good. Hell I’ll take 5 HAC adds. Nothing wrong with a slow build.

I don’t have any idea what to expect at pop, but I’m not expecting much. That’s okay for now IMO.

For some reason I don’t think Adam, his team, and RCA are too worried about the success or failure of BTIKM to the extent some in his fan base are…at least Stateside.  If they were putting all of era 2s eggs in that basket they wouldn’t be heading across the big pond already to pre-promote his album.

I think that a lot of market research was done during era 1 and Adam is going to be promoting based off of that research.  I just feel that his team are as interested in the International market and are maybe hoping that if he can hold his own outside of the US that success can follow him back home and correlate into sales of his album here.

Maybe I am over-thinking all of this but I don’t get any angst from him that they feel that his first single will be the ultimate promotional tool for the album like is done for other artists.  Someone seems to think the album will sell the album, the album will sell follow-up singles, and all that will sell whatever tour he is planning.

Different marketing strategies happen all the time and I think this is one of them. 

Thanks. So far with 31% reported adds in, Lambert got 2 CA HAC, 1 HAC and I Top40. Damn, it’s going to be a long day. LOL.

It looks as if both Lauren and Casey J will both be receiving adds today but unless something drastic changes in the next 20 minutes from this post, it looks as if this will be the 2nd week in a row with no adds for TTWG.  Last week neither Scotty, Lauren, or Casey J received any adds.

HDD charts don’t use Soundscan numbers.

oops…meant HDD predictions.  Thanks for the catch!

Who knows what will happen at us radio. I’m sure the plan it to have the song going gangbusters on march 20- two months from now. That’s a lot of time for it to grow. After a flurry if radio promo in San Fran late last week, and a few tv interviews today looks like Adam is done with us radio promo until he returns from Europe second week of february. Supposedly he will he doing a bigger round of radio promo then and that will give it a goose. What is clear is that 1) RCA is looking at a lot more than just the us market, as evidenced by the European promo over next 2 weeks, 2) and the response to the album tracks has been amazing with a lot if consesus on hit potential of Cuckoo and Trespassing. So interesting times ahead

Love You This Big was added to 120 of 140 stations, TTWG has already been added to 113.  There are always going to be some stations that don’t add a particular performer or wait until a song is top 20 ’cause they play lots of recurrents.

I’d be surprised if Scotty gets any more adds for this song.

i-tunes

Singles
2. Set Fire to the Rain – ADELE
3. What Doesn’t Kill You (Stronger) – Kelly Clarkson (Deluxe)
14. Moves Like Jagger (Studio Recording from “The Voice” Performance) [feat. Christina Aguilera] – Maroon 5
17. Someone Like You – ADELE
24. Rolling in the Deep – ADELE
27. Stereo Hearts (feat. Adam Levine) – Gym Class Heroes
36. Without You (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
45. Mr. Know It All – Kelly Clarkson
59. We Found Love (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
64. Moves Like Jagger / Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
70. The Trouble With Girls – Scotty McCreery
81. The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
94. Rumour Has It – ADELE
111. Remind Me (Duet with Carrie Underwood) – Brad Paisley
124. Summer Nights (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
157. Georgia Peaches – Lauren Alaina
187. We Are Young (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
202. Turning Tables – ADELE
208. Far Away (feat. Chris Richardson) – Tyga
213. Camouflage – Brad Paisley
222. Make You Feel My Love – ADELE
238. Don’t You Wanna Stay (with Kelly Clarkson) – Jason Aldean
258. Bad Day – Daniel Powter
287. What Doesn’t Kill You (Stronger) – Kelly Clarkson
293. Chasing Pavements – ADELE
321. I Love You This Big – Scotty McCreery
352. Crawling Back to You – Daughtry
366. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
432. Jesus, Take the Wheel – Carrie Underwood
438. One and Only – ADELE
443. Rumour Has It / Someone Like You (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
489. Before He Cheats – Carrie Underwood
580. No Air – Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown
605. Bleeding Love – Leona Lewis
620. Cowboy Casanova – Carrie Underwood
694. Already Gone – Kelly Clarkson
711. Stronger – Mandisa
722. Just a Dream – Carrie Underwood
743. Tough – Kellie Pickler
800. Undo It – Carrie Underwood
825. Don’t You Remember – ADELE
835. Since U Been Gone – Kelly Clarkson
844. Because of You – Kelly Clarkson
849. Better Than I Know Myself – Adam Lambert
872. All-American Girl – Carrie Underwood
890. My Life Would Suck Without You – Kelly Clarkson (Single)
920. A Moment Like This – Kelly Clarkson
933. Bleeding Love – Leona Lewis (Single)
1018. Like My Mother Does – Lauren Alaina

Albums
1. 21 – ADELE
11. 19 – ADELE
13. Stronger (Deluxe Version) – Kelly Clarkson
46. Clear As Day – Scotty McCreery
144. Break the Spell (Deluxe Version) – Daughtry
186. Wildflower – Lauren Alaina
203. Glee: The Music, Vol. 7 – Glee Cast
312. Stronger – Kelly Clarkson
314. iTunes Festival: London 2011 – EP – ADELE
368. What If We Were Real – Mandisa
414. Break the Spell – Daughtry
418. iTunes Live from SoHo – ADELE
582. Duets II – Tony Bennett
585. Glee: The Music Presents The Warblers – Glee Cast
671. Soul Surfer (Music from the Motion Picture) – Various Artists
683. Play On – Carrie Underwood
716. Glee: The Music, Vol. 6 – Glee Cast
723. Memories of a Beautiful Disaster – James Durbin
726. Glee: The Music, Vol. 1 – Glee Cast
769. Glee: The Music, Vol. 4 – Glee Cast
772. Glee: The Music, Vol. 5 – Glee Cast
781. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
834. Daughtry – Daughtry
855. iTunes Session – Kelly Clarkson
886. I Remember Me – Jennifer Hudson
957. Dream With Me – Jackie Evancho
980. Hurt: The EP – Leona Lewis
985. Some Hearts – Carrie Underwood

You said it. I have never had the experience of having my special snowflake zoom up the charts. Maybe CaseyJ will eventually give me this thrill, but for now, I am thankful for every dang add.

What’s so strange (to me) about TTWG not getting these last adds is that since ILYTB, he’s shown he can sell and he’s touring, working, seems like he would have more this time than last…maybe if he can hang on and reach 20?

On the good side, CAD received a good itunes bump…it was up to 136 before the weekend and now down to 46:)))

Country adds (Monitored)

Casey (5)-LDCIAN

Lauren (3)-GP

Addboard

There is my humble opinion regarding Kelly’s situation.
I believe RCA seriously dropped the ball releasing Mr.KIA as a first single. It is a very unremarkable song, that had never inspired particularly strong sales for amount of spins it got.
They had a perfect storm of circumstances aligned: a ton of good will from radio PDs, long list of high profile performances and of course the sweet 4th quoter debut date for the album.
And what did they managed to milk out of all of this opportunities?
Barely 1 mil. for the single, and less then half a mil. for an album, that was barely holding on to top 50 through some weeks.
Have they unleashed the undeniable smash like Stronger(WDKY) as a first single to be drilling Kelly Clarkson’s name along with a catchy chores into peoples heads while they were engaged in the biggest shopping spree of the year, the single could have been reaching 3 million in sales by now, and the album, after hardly leaving top 10 for weeks on end, could have been certified platinum.
Follow it up with “Dark Side” and “I Forgive You” (for example) as the 2d and 3d singles. Two solid songs with familiar Kelly’s sound but fresh for her catalog themes, should be rather capable of carring on the momentum… And then and only then, if RCA/Kelly’s heart so desires they could have went with one of the least engaging songs on the album – Mr.KIA.

so Kelly only sold 200 something more than Scotty,,,& that’s fantastic….?? Scotty is doing wonderful!!!!

I agree with your entire post LongKissGoodnight. I think Kelly is going to end up with a solid era DESPITE RCA’s blunders, not because of their clever strategy. It could have been even stronger, no pun intended.

Thanks for the replies about Daughtry’s other single, Renegade.  One question I have – both Daughtry and James Durbin released two singles – one geared toward rock radio – both released in September.  Daughtry’s rock single got higher on the rock charts (I think someone here said to #28 or so), but has already fallen completely off the charts.  James’ single Stand Up has only gotten as high as #39 so far, but seems to be having more longevity.  Which is better?  Getting higher on the charts more quickly and dropping off faster, or hovering around #40 for a longer period of time?  Or doesn’t it really matter?

Leno and Ellen aren’t the best as far as promotional opportunities go. There are still many other nighttime and daytime talk shows, Idol, The Voice, DWTS, etc. You never know where promotional opportunities are going to crop up or present themselves. 

I strongly suspect we’ll see more larger promo opportunities closer to the album drop, which makes more sense. Let the song ride on the radio then burn up your big promo opportunities closer to album drop so that you can make an effective announcement. 

“Thanks for the replies about Daughtry’s other single, Renegade.  One question I have – both Daughtry and James Durbin released two singles – one geared toward rock radio – both released in September.  ”

And I’m more curious as to when it will go recurrent. 

What’s so strange (to me) about TTWG not getting these last adds is that since ILYTB, he’s shown he can sell and he’s touring, working, seems like he would have more this time than last…maybe if he can hang on and reach 20?

I think AI alums have to work harder to gain respect for their accomplishments, because PDs know that a lage portion of the cds that they sell, are initially sold to people who are supporting the singer more than the music.
A lot is riding on the back of TTWG or whatever the next single will be.  PDs need to see that their listeners like the song(s), because they couldn’t care less about what people who aren’t country music fans think.

I like both songs, too, but would personally give a slight edge to LIR (I am not too fond of the vocal distortion in the verses of HTH).

But I realize that LIR has a very 80′s throwback sound (that’s probably why I love it so much, LOL, plus James’ voice just sounds amazing singing it) and therefore HTH represents him better trying to make a dent in the current rock market.

Another plus for HTH, it is a co-write by James and a very personal song that he will always hold dear.

Another plus for HTH, it is a co-write by James and a very personal song that he will always hold dear.

That’s the song that convinced me to buy James’ cd.  I listened to the cd when it first came out, and thought that it was pretty good, but it’s not the style of music that I normally buy or pay attention to.  

Which is better?  Getting higher on the charts more quickly and dropping off faster, or hovering around #40 for a longer period of time?  Or doesn’t it really matter?

Well, let’s look at AI. For the #28 position on Active Rock, it’s currently 0.386. For the #39 position, it’s currently 0.186. So for every week at #28, it takes a little over two weeks at #39 to get the same AI.

Move on up to #18, with an AI of 1.687, and it takes four weeks at #28 to get the same AI (or nine weeks at #39). There’s probably some mathematically possible scenario in which it’s better to hang around #30 for a really, really, really long time than to peak in the teens, but in general, peaking higher is the goal.

(Also, peaking higher probably means a broader geographic sweep of stations, which is better support for a tour. In the 30s, it’s highly possible that entire sections of the country aren’t hearing the song at all.)

Daughtry’s single was on the Mainstream Rock chart for 3 months. It made it to the top 20, number 18 to be exact.

That’s exactly what James needs, casual fans and listeners who like a song well enough to convince them to buy (or at least check out) the album.

And I think many believe that “Higher than Heaven” could be this door opener… now, if only Wind Up…

so Kelly only sold 200 something more than Scotty,,,& that’s fantastic….?? Scotty is doing wonderful!!!!

Those aren’t the final numbers. Lots can change between now and the final chart. Last week Scotty went from the high teens to #34 by the time the final numbers were revealed.

Kelly’s and Scotty’s numbers might be close, or they might be thousands apart. We won’t know until later on.

That’s the sort of thing I hear over and over again from those outside James’ fanbase, and another reason why I’m pulling for HTH to be released next – it’s more popular than LIR outside the fanbase and more likely to bring in new fans. I love it when James does the “80s throwback” stuff, I especially love his vocals in Outcast. I know James would love to bring that style back and I believe one day he can, but the truth is it’s too in his career for him to take risks like that. He needs to build a radio track record ATM and he has to do it by “playing it safe” by releasing current music. Later on when he’s had some hits under his belt he can be more experimental cause then radio will play anything he releases.

MKIA has more than done it’s job, it had a very long impact, it was released back in september and it’s just now going down the charts.
We’ve seen what failed singles for Kelly looks like, fast rise, medium peak and fast fall, that’s what happened with Never Again and I Do Not Hook Up.

As far as sales go, it hasn’t sold ‘barely” 1M, it sold 1.15M and is still selling at a decent rate, more than enough to get to 1.5M eventually. This is not an uptempo, club bangger, those sell way more in general.

To me it performed much more like Breakaway or Aleady Gone.

Reposting HDD sales predictions for this chart:

Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 95-105k
*Kidz Bop Kids (Razor & Tie) 45-50k
Drake (YM/CM/Universal Republic) 28-32k
The Black Keys (Nonesuch) 28-32k
Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 19-21k
Young Jeezy (Def Jam/IDJ) 19-21k
*Attack Attack! (Rise) 18-20k
Toby Keith (Show Dog) 17-19k
Coldplay (Capitol/EMI) 17-19k
Joyful Noise (WaterTower) 17-19k
LMFAO (Interscope) 16-18k
Nickelback (Roadrunner) 15-17k
Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 15-17k
Kelly Clarkson (RCA) 15-17k
Now 40 (Capitol/EMI) 15-17k

*Debuts (1/19p)

The final figures from the HDD chart won’t come out until sometime late tomorrow afternoon/evening eastern time.

Daughtry’s song has peeked at number 18 on the Mainstream Rock, the format that from my understanding has a vast catalog of old rock hits compiling their playlists, which leaves a little place for current music, and make it a smallest format in terms of AI for current songs.

So, at it’s peak Daughtry’s Renegade was getting 79 spins a week and an audience impression of mere    0.291 million.

Now, Active Rock is a 2 best format in terms of AI (with Alternative being the biggest) and biggest amount of spins James got in a week was 179, and 0.200 million was his pick in AI.

Basically, if we are being honest, not one of them have made a dent in the world of rock radio with their current eras so far.

Valentin432: MKIA has more than done it’s job, it had a very long impact, it was released back in september and it’s just now going down the charts.

You’re right about MKIA as far as download sales and its legs at radio. I would disagree with anybody and everybody who called it a failed single.

But, that doesn’t mean it was the right choice for a lead single. I think LongKissGoodnight’s points about a different single being more of an album seller are right on. 

I have another concern about MKIA being the lead single that I may not ever be able to measure: after people here MKIA & WDKY, are they going to be driven to buy WDKY the download if they think MKIA is eh or are they going to buy Stronger the album? IMO Breakaway-SUBG was a way stronger 1-2 punch. If they’d gone WDKY-Dark Side it would’ve been a way stronger 1-2 punch. I’m sure Stronger will have good legs because of WDKY but I still think sales would be at an overall higher level with a stronger 1-2 punch of singles.

IMO RCA chose MKIA because it was supposed to jive with the media story about how Kelly deals with bloggers/haters/all the crap that comes with celebrity. You saw that come up in practically every interview Kelly’s done with mags and newspapers so I don’t think that was by accident. But, tbh I don’t think that ever really caught on with the public. I get why they emphasized this because the way Kelly’s handled it and survived 10 years in the business is a testament to her likability (not to mention her crazy talent, versatility as a singer, and how she’s grown up as a person). But, I feel like with Kelly people just want their catchy, well sung tunes with THAT voice and they don’t need to be reminded what a champ Kelly is for how she handles things.

I am not convinced James is getting another single. Has his label officially announced that he will be getting one? 

I believe you are missing the point.
Which was not to say that Mr.KIA has done poorly. It’s done decently.

But it clearly failed to ignite the same enthusiasm as a combination of fresh album from a beloved artist with a smash song on the radio during holiday rash could. That potential for impulse buying have not been fulfiled because of the single that record company have chosen, and I think that they have lost potential sales by not going after that sweet “perfect storm” scenario.

um yeah. not exactly sure what this tweet means, but this is definitely Kris’s vocal. I think this was the song (Vision of Love) that was mentioned by dj’s last summer after Jive listening party…

RT @AndonArtistsLLCCongrats @MaisonDragen for their first @HypeM Top Ten single!http://fb.me/Zt0Ge6gr 

Thanks everyone for all the replies about the rock radio and James’ and Daughtry’s singles.  I’ve learned a lot.

I think RCA wanted to release WDKY as a second single because they hoped it’d be a hit and it would help album sales in a time that it would really need it: january and february where album sales are horrible. And MKIA has done its job because Stronger has been outselling AIEW for 8 weeks now, and it’s been climbing the Billboard chart. The last few weeks have been like this: #49 – #44 – #39 – #17 – #16 – #14. The album has sold 485k with MKIA only. And the album has been climbing the iTunes chart too, where it’s currently #13. I think this is a good sign that WDKY will help keep album sales steady and will eventually reach platinum.
Also, WDKY is moments away from reaching #2 on iTunes.

But WDKY is going to get her through winter and maybee spring in the HDD top 50, along with performances at the superbowl, at the grammys and probably Voice/Idol that should solidify this album as a long seller and the next single will have a good momentum based on the success of this one.

I’m not sure that WDKY would have had the same impact during the hollidays, there was a lot more single/album releases happening.
I get that potentially Kelly could have sold 100k instead of 40-50k during those 4 ot 5 weeks between November and December if WDKY was at N°1 or 2 on top 40, I just can’t fault RCA for how this era has worked out so far.

Not bad.  But It’s a typical club dance track. short on melody and hooks and too much club beats for radio IMHO. I find it a bit odd if Kris is going this direction with his coming album. I wonder how he’ll perform it live since he really doesn’t fit with that type of pop image, IMO again of course LOL.

Not bad.  But It’s a typical club dance track. short on melody and hooks and too much club beats for radio IMHO. I find it a bit odd if Kris is going this direction with his coming album. I wonder how he’ll perform it live since he really doesn’t fit with that type of pop image, IMO again of course LOL.

It’s a dance remix, so it’s not meant for regular radio stations.  This might go along with another strange tweet from last week that came from the same twitter account, but it was about another one of this company’s clients remixing one of Kris’ songs.  

Oh it’s a remix! Thank goodness. I was experiencing some real cognitive dissonance there. LOL

No wonder. Probably they butchered the melody cuz I don’t hear the hooks. 

I don’t either, but someone is “standing for the vision of love”. At least, I think that is what Kris keeps singing over and over! lol

I almost had a heart attack when I heard the song…warn fans the next time that it is a dance remix of some sorts!

Kris tweeted a line from that song the other day, so the non-dance remix version likely made the album. I’m confused by the tweet as to what they meant by “top 10 single”. 

also, we reportedly will be getting a tentative album release date for him on Wednesday 

The guys who remixed the song are from Finland, so maybe it’s some chart there.  Or, maybe they were testing the song out.

This is also the song that was played for the Clear Channel reps last year, the meeting that keeps bringing up the conversation about the meaning of the word priority.  The regular version of the song must be radio ready, since it caused that one dj from a Florida pop station to tweet about it.  Toby Knapp also called it a pop/rock song that has a good beat.

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I see 100% of HAC adds in and BTIKM with 4 small market adds. That’s not a great start. How about RCA pulls one of the uptempo dance songs from the album and release it in February? Just call BTIKM the “buzz” single or something.

 A bit premature don’t you think?  First day of adds and it’s a flop? LoL

As I remember it, WWFM didn’t exactly burn up the adds either.

WWFM was added by the biggest CHR station in the US it’s first week. A little different from the adds that BTIKM is getting. I just don’t think the song is getting much radio response.

But it is early days and knowing RCA they’ll give it a few months to establish itself before they do anything drastic.

WDKY finally took over the n°2 spot! Just one more to go.

Everyone has PD’s to DJ’s to MD’s from coast to coast and all round the world been gushing and buzzing and wetting their pants over how  AWESOME! AWESOME! BTIKM and the CD is supposed to be. For all that hype and hot air, I’d surely have expected more than 4 adds on the official add day. Just saying. If you gonna hype a thing up, gots to back it up. We shall see how it goes. IMO.

Adam is doomed…again. He better call Brian May ASAP.

WWFM was added by the biggest CHR station in the US it’s first week. A
little different from the adds that BTIKM is getting. I just don’t think
the song is getting much radio response.

Also most Top 40 stations add on Tuesday.  Only 17.3% of them have reported in so far.

If this era goes like the last one, Adam better have a Plan B. Brian May on speed dial.

So why comment or post if if ya’ don’t know true #? just askin!!! ??

As I remember it, WWFM didn’t exactly burn up the adds either.

I agree with your first statement, but not this one.  WWFM had major support from the start.  Before anyone even knew that FYE had been pulled, RCA got Open House Party to play the song over the weekend, and then both KIIS (top 2 market) and Z100 added the song, which prompted a slew of stations to follow those two leaders.

I do think that I’m going to have to rethink my theory that the song is going to have more HAC than pop adds this week.  I don’t think 4 is the end of the world, but it doesn’t show that PDs are rushing to add the song.

Adds (Monitored)

Kelly (23)-WDKY (2 Canada-CHR/Pop, 1 Canada-HAC, 1 AC, 15 HAC, 4 CHR/Pop)

Adam (7)-BTIKM (2 Canada-HAC, 4 HAC, 1 CHR/Pop)

Casey J (5)-LDCIAN (Country)

Daughtry (5)-CBTY (4 AC, 1 HAC)

Kelly (5)-MKIA (4 AC, 1 HAC)

Lauren (3)-GP (Country)

Clay (1)-BBML (AC)

Addboard

What doesn’t kill you is #2 on iTunes.

Because your observation that Scotty and Kelly’s sales were only 200 apart was based on numbers that were not in any way close to being final. I was just pointing out that last week Kelly stayed in the top 15 when the final 50% of sales were reported and Scotty dropped to number 34.

The same thing could happen this week or Scotty could stay at number 15. There is no way to predict what will happen until we get the final chart, so we don’t know if Scotty’s sales will be close to Kelly’s this week or not.  

and then both KIIS (top 2 market) and Z100 added the song, which prompted a slew of stations to follow those two leaders.

Yep. They both added WWFM mid-week well before the adds deadline which no doubt encouraged many others to add on the actual add days. The added before it was even publicized as the next single (privately, it would have been) and before the AMAs.

Four adds on the add day seems pretty underwhelming. Especially when none of the influential HAC stations jump on board (e.g. WPLJ which is usually pretty Idol friendly).  If people hadn’t been re-assuring us for weeks that the label was having stations wait until the add day so that it could make a big splash, expectations might have been lower.

The song is “meh”. RCA played it too safe and came out bland. Time to start working those phones, RCA promo department. Or just call it a buzz single as jpfan suggests. It’s the song, not the singer, that is the problem.

The pop adds tomorrow are unlikely to be much better with such an HAC leaning song. Maybe if it had blown the door off the adds on HAC, Pop might have shown more interest.

Who knows? IIHY wasn’t doing much until the video came out, so maybe RCA is planning on bootstrapping off of that. Adam is a visual artist, so videos help his songs. RCA has 8 or so weeks to turn this around. They’ve got time.

I see 100% of HAC adds in and BTIKM with 4 small market adds.

We will see how Adam fares on Top 40 tomorrow, it is a soft start so far.

If this era goes like last one, he’ll have one major hit, a medium hit, international sales over a million, and a world tour. I’m not seeing how that would be a bad thing, even if I’d love as a fan for more.

Just to clarify. Durbin tweeted “Thank you” back to Adam.

I haven’t followed Clay for quite some time but it’s nice to see he has a song that’s moving up the charts.  I imagine that once Celebrity Apprentice starts, there may be more movement for him.   Just a guess.

TBH…I don’t quite understand why some feel one Idol has to tweet another Idol.  There have been plenty of times where congrats are in order for one of them and they don’t necessarily congratulate the other.   As an example,  Kris did congratulate Scotty when his CD went platinum but Scotty never tweeted back.   So what?  Some people don’t see every tweet they get.   I don’t think a big brouhaha was made because of that.  

WDKY passed SFTTR on iTunes. Woo, hoo.

I agree they could have chosen a better song but in the end I think Mr. Know It All did its job. Even if it didn’t sell as many albums as a smash lead single probably could have initially, it at least kept the album in people’s minds and gave Kelly a quiet welcome back to radio. The idea behind the plan was really perfect actually, because Kelly is always touring after album release and doesn’t have a lot of time to promote the album and second single after, so waiting to release a big anthem that doesn’t need the same level of promo was really smart and  it has proven to have helped a lot because Kelly’s weekly albums sales against AIEW have been greater for at least the last 6 weeks or so and are still showing consistency.

My ideal situation would have been for RCA to release Mr. Know It All a month earlier to let it peak in time to allow WDKY to be released in November, but things are looking great so I can’t complain. As long as the third single is timed well I see this album having long legs.

I hope BTIKM takes off, but it is too soon to tell.  It seems like the glowing reviews of the album have come from the UK, which is great since he didn’t get much attention from the UK for his last album.  I get the feeling Adam will always be more popular overseas then in the US.   But having said that, I don’t think we can judge too much yet based on these adds.   Here is hoping BTIKM takes off like WWFM

What is Adam’s total add count?  7 today and what 31 from before?  That seems okayish, even though I know some of those adds are Canadian.

yeah 31 total adds 7 of those are Canada HAC

Having to recalibrate my expectations a bit.  I still like BTIKM and still have faith in Adam’s talent so will try to stay optimistic.   I do wonder if one of the cool, crazy cuts the Brits are raving about would have beeen more noticed.  Is this a little too same old, same old safe?

Hmmm. 4 adds, all small markets. I was kinda hoping that if it was a low count at least they’d be good adds. I’m usually the one arguing for
patience but yeah, I’m officially giving this song the tentative side eye.

So, I have questions:

What kind of bullet does this have on HAC at the moment?
Have the early adders upped rotations and moved it to daytime spins?
What is the add history of this at HAC? Like how many a week?

I guess what I’m asking is, does this have steady or increasing momentum or is it just sort of lingering reeaalllly slow. If it is the latter, I’d rather he pull it for something that will propel him forward with a little more umph, much like the FYE/WWFM situation, just so he’s in a better place after his album drops. If not, I’d say hang in there a little longer.

Either way nothing is going to happen until they drop that video, so I say about 2 weeks from there we should have a real clear idea what’s going on. But this is starting to act shady.

See what I did there? LOL

thats really hard thing to calculate its only the first week of adds

I am gonna wait a few weeks before I call it DOA

Happy for Kelly!! Hope she gets to #1. she got to #2 spot with no promo for the song, happy for her! Hopefully she can get close to Platnium by the album stops selling

The song had 2 Top 40 and 7 Hac last week.  Last we saw, though, it still has a positive bullet. Could change this week, or not.

Yeah but people have been spinning it for about a month now, so I’m trying to get a sense of how the song is doing on the stations that are already spinning it, and whether the radio interest has been steady since the song has been available. HAC should be its strongest place, I want to feel confident that it will start looking strong soon.

I wouldn’t call it DOA, but I am starting to get… suspicious. LOL. We still have a video coming but I’m gonna need this thing to show a little bit more life. This album drops in how many weeks? It needs to be in a position to pick up the ball when the album promo stops. Plus, some pop play around then would be nice, and that ain’t gonna happen if it can’t get going properly at HAC. I’m all for slow but HAC is one of those charts where you could linger in the 30s for months. None of that please.

Now waiting to see what happens with the video. And looking for those Clear Channel (?) adds soon. Fingers crossed. I dont want this messed up, this dude is set to blow up if they do this right. Come on RCA, don’t F with me. **mad face**

It’s 2012, It’s Times for Miracles for Adam. LOL

Isn’t this what happened to the Davids? They released songs that went nowhere and RCA didn’t push them and they got dropped.

The song had 2 Top 40 and 7 Hac last week.

It is funny that the song received more adds last week than it did today.   Maybe we were just expecting too much.  Adam isn’t Kelly, so he wasn’t going to get 30 adds like she did a few weeks ago, and a solid haul for HAC probably would have been 8 or 9 adds.  If we look at the 14 adds that he already had, it doesn’t look so bad.  It may not be the song, even though I don’t think it’s a good song, it just may be a case of Adam not being the type of artist who is going to get a lot more than that, until he releases a string of songs that do well.

Has Cook been dropped? I thought Archie decided not to extend his contract?

Cookie ain’t dropped yet but sorta. Archie’s song got barely any adds, so he never got past PDs. He also had almost no promo beyond internet stuff for his fanbase. Cookie got lots of quality promo (radio and TV) and some decent big markets to add, but the song barely moved off overnights. The label didn’t switch the lead song in either case. Once the first few weeks of album sales were done, both projects were pretty much done in the US since they had no real radio presence. At least Cookie got a hail mary second single and a short tour, but those hardly ever do anything to move product.

I think Adam will be protected from that because he is popular in several countries, so odds are he will gain traction somewhere. Plus industry peeps love him so he’ll always work regardless. But I would like to see a decent era in the US as well.

Oh dang, it’s only the first day and already Adam is about to be dropped from his record label.  Actually, I’m fairly certain David Cook still has a label as far as we know.

So, Adam didn’t have a big add day.  That’s a bummer.  I like the song, so I’m hoping it will pick up in the next week or two.  I guess we’ll see.  It sure seems like RCA has quite a bit planned for this album release, what with all of the overseas promo and such.  I don’t get the feeling they’ll be ready to abandon ship even if this first single under-performs.  

Well Adam has been slowing gaining spins on HAC and moving up slowly in chart position so he isn’t falling.  I have no idea when its getting spun but I am guessing the ones spinning it more than 10 time have to be playing it sometime during the day.

There is still 2 months before the album drops.

We should be getting the video sometime in the next week

Just for comparison:

Number 1 song HAC:  Gavin Degraw Not over You
Days on chart:  223
Adds by early weeks:  week 1 = 1, week 2 = 3, week 3 = 9, week 4 = 1, week 5 = 4, week 6 = 6, week 7 = 1, so on and so forth with the most adds being 11 in one week.

Only in the bubble do songs need to spring from obscurity into radio prominence in the course of a few days.

Granted some artists can get their music played rapidly…but Gavin’s trip to the top of the heap is probably pretty typical.  It may take a bit less time but it isn’t about all the adds coming in a couple of weeks.

but Gavin’s trip to the top of the heap is probably pretty typical.

Gavin’s isn’t typical, since the song was released at the end of May.  That’s an incredibly long time to climb the charts.  I think in his case, both HAC and pop couldn’t ignore that sales were outpacing the song’s airplay.  I think the same thing happened with LLWD, but much quicker.

But, you do bring up a point that I was trying to make earlier, in that most songs on HAC aren’t going to get twenty or thirty adds at a time.  I think earlier someone said that 7 would be good.

There’s no way of ignoring the fact that four adds on an adds day is weak, but it looks better when you look at how many adds the song ha gotten so far.

What do you mean, “sorta”? Cook is being dropped from RCA? You mean he isn’t going to get another album after this one?

David Cook hasn’t been dropped from his label

I think earlier someone said that 7 would be good.

Yeah, that was me. 7-10 would have been good to me, and I was prepared to take as low as 5 decent ones. It is adds day after all, there is supposed to be a decent boost attached to this day. But I agree that knowing last week was good makes me feel a lot better about the whole thing. This could just be a little blip. All the recent sophomore album slumps has made me really skittish. I’ve still got my side eye on reserve, however. Hmph.

Only a handful of superstar artists get massive amounts of adds on the first official add day. Adam is not yet at the level of fame where he would be expected to get a ton of adds right away. this song will have to build steadily…like WWFM did when it first was released. 

I think your concerns are legitimate.  The song’s been available a month, and while some of that time period covered the holidays, the radio station people have all had a good chance to listen to the song & make their evaluations of it.  I don’t think it exceeded sales expectations or you would have seen RCA releasing statements about how happy they were with the sales or at least giving some positive quotes to Adam-friendly media types to including in articles about the song’s performance so far.

If you look over at All Access, you’ll see most stations are upping the rotation slightly, some are flat and one (Orlando) has reduced spins by 8 this week.  

We’ve always known it’s an HAC song so I think it has to do well on that format before Pop will give it a serious look, although I’m sure some Pop stations will pick it up.  It’s just surprising to me RCA would lead with an HAC song when all the build-up was that he was making “sexy dance music” or whatever he called it. (obviously I’m paraphrasing because I don’t remember exactly how he and/or fans described it).

There is still time to turn it around, but it’s clearly not the storm that was forecast.  I think RCA will probably stick with it for a few weeks like they did with Cook’s lead single, but if it isn’t showing signs of doing much as they get closer to the album drop, they really should pull the plug on it much faster than they did with TLG.

To whomever is comparing it to Gavin’s song, it’s not a good comparison.  Not Over You is an odd case, it’s been out forever.  It’s rise to the top has practically been miraculous.

there’s no indication that David Cook is getting dropped. In fact, RCA tweets fairly often about him, so it seems like he is still getting label support

I know next to nothing about radio and album sales, but it seems like one would want a song to be pretty high on charts when album drops to drive high sales.  I don’t know if this slow pase hurt Gavin Megraw’s album sales.  Adam was so involved with driving this album, I want it to sell well.

No! LOL! I didn’t mean Cook was getting sorta dropped – he’s not getting dropped. The person said “isn’t this what happened with the Davids” and I was saying sorta, but not really. That’s all.

It seems (based on what Adam said) that Cuckoo is meant to be the next single, so perhaps RCA is going for a Kelly-like MKIA/Stronger deal.  So, hopefully that’ll work–as you guys say, thought it oddly got more adds before its actual adds date, it has a decent number of adds overall.  So hopefully it builds on that.  if not, seems like they’ll move on to Cuckoo.  MKIA took a while to build and Adam’s not Kelly, so I can imagine that RCA would plan to work the single.  

Ok, thanks. Sorry!
I thought I had missed something big while I was away for a couple of weeks. I tried to catch up by skimming the days, so that would have been a pretty big miss!

Happy to know that Cook is still signed! lol

I’m thrilled with Casey’s five adds, btw.  He needed a boost badly.

It seems (based on what Adam said) that Cuckoo is meant to be the next single, so perhaps RCA is going for a Kelly-like MKIA/Stronger deal.  So, hopefully that’ll work–as you guys say, thought it oddly got more adds before its actual adds date, it has a decent number of adds overall.  So hopefully it builds on that.  if not, seems like they’ll move on to Cuckoo.  MKIA took a while to build and Adam’s not Kelly, so I can imagine that RCA would plan to work the single.

MKIA rushed up the radio charts, just like Stronger is doing.  It may have been a grower with fans, but that wasn’t the case with PDs.

I too was hoping for more adds today, but I’m going to wait a couple weeks til I get worried about this single. If in a couple weeks it still isn’t getting much response I hope RCA does what they did last time and switches singles instead of letting it limp along. The album has had tons of positive reviews so I think they have some good songs to pick from. It’s interesting reading how many people think that while gorgeous, BTIKM isn’t very representative of the album. Maybe the label did play it too safe with this one trying to capitalize on his last big hit, WWFM. Having said that I actually think BTIKM is a beautiful song and a grower. If people are given the oppurtunity to hear it I think they will buy it. After Ellen and Jay it made a huge jump on itunes, and the one thing Adam has going for him is he can sell the shit out of a song live. We have no idea what promo is coming up and I think this song has the potential to be big if he performed it at a big event.

And the point being is that peeps who listen to HAC don’t have a clue about how long or for what reasons it has been a slow climb for Gavin’s single.  They only know it is number 1 and they hear it all the time.

My point is that other than us numbers watchers radio listeners don’t care about how many adds a song gets every week or how long a song takes to climb the chart.  

In the end its just about how well a song did not how fast it did it.  Gavin still has a number 1.

They probably don’t know that it’s number 1, but they do know that they are starting to hear it more.

In the end its just about how well a song did not how fast it did it.  Gavin still has a number 1.

Gavin also has a song that was selling fairly well, even when he wasn’t getting a lot of airplay.   Which is probably why he now has a number one song that’s top fifteen on pop, and climbing.

Oh i wasn’t saying it was like btikm–as i said, kelly and adam are very different–just that it took a while for it to really catch on in terms of sales and major radio presence.  :)  No idea if that will happen here, but hopefully! And if not, hopefully they’ll move on quickly to cuckoo.

Knowing the history, we will be waiting for adds for BTIKM until the album release. The adds will never come, and bad album sales will provide reality check for us.

I don’t understand why, for this critical sophomore album, RCA would not release the strongest song on Adam’s album first (in terms of potential for the most radioplay on CHR).  It really doesn’t make any sense to release a weaker song first, especially since this first song will be important for driving album sales.

I don’t know if it’s about releasing the strongest or best song.  In this case, they wanted to release a song that is similar to WWFM.  It’s a style that caught people’s attention, and one that got him the most exposure, so why not try to duplicate it.  

There are pros and cons to this, on the one hand just because two songs have similar styles, that doesn’t mean that both are good.  The possible benefit is that it might help Adam establish a musical identity, and recapture the attention of people who like WWFM.  

It was a big mistake when Fantasia’s lead single from her second album was a song that deviated from the soulful and r&b vibe that she set with her first album.  ”Hoodboy” really hurt that album, because people got the idea that the whole album would be songs that leaned more towards hip-hop, so they didn’t buy it, even when she released a song that was more in line with the songs from the first album.  The album stood a better chance, if the release of the two songs had been reversed.

I think that RCA was thinking about this, and not whether or not BTIKM is the strongest song.

Yes, I understand that rationale and the attempt to duplicate WWFM’s success and establish a musical identity, but some of those who have heard the album have reported that BTIKM doesn’t appear to represent the album, so I guess that I’m still a bit puzzled if this is a reasonable “strategy”.  I guess that we’ll have to wait and see what happens.

I’m thrilled too, Eileen. Casey needed to make a bit of a splash after the holidays to keep his single on track. I’m really hoping he cracks top20 before his album hits. That’s my dream.