James Durbin & Adam Lambert Make Nice on Twitter! UPDATE: James Has Contacted Daughtry

UPDATE: It appears James got in touch with Chris Daughtry. He tweets: (James reaaallly needs to shut up now. lulz)

Im stoked! Daughtry is advising me. It’s cool there’s someone who went through this exact thing that I can talk to! Thanks Brother! Just what he was thinking right after idol ended. And being on the road w/o your family how he copes! You can NEVER stop learning new things. Common grounds! :-) y’all get it. I don’t have to explain :-) And he’s a Christian I hear! That’s double points in my family’s book! Good people! :-)

James Durbin offered Adam Lambert an olive branch via twitter Sunday night after bashing the Season 8 runner up in several interviews.

@adamlambert Hey dude! Id really enjoy grabbing some lunch with you and just talking about all this Idol/Post Idol stuff! I could really use…Some one on one advice. Regardless of any supposed bad blood, Im calling truce :) Anyway.thats me. Glad your tour is goin great…direct message me if this is something that you might be interested in doing. Thanks for the consideration! :)-James…Have I shocked any DURBINATORS with that one? lol Adam was totally cool when we met! Just so yall know!

Adam responded almost immediately:

@JDurbinAI10 haha why don’t we just go ahead and discuss it right now over twitter? I’d be honored to advise… :) #nobadblood

James declines to discuss business over twitter,

“well as much as they’d love it..just as u don’t wanna spoil ur album, I don’t wanna spoil anything lol…you understand right?

Adam answers,

“oh I definitely understand.”

James suggests they get together

“just think about it. If youre free, hit me up. Im just not the “twitter business meeting” type. thanks anyway, brother. :-/ I’ll be in the LA area all month..you know the deal :)”

Adam’s all…affirmative!

“ok ;)”

I guess some of the Durbinators are all WTF, because James needs to calm them down!

“Durbinators! You know my intentions are good! I just wanna sit down w/ a fellow musician & talk about the business But twitters the only way…To ask that musician..”

So that’s that!  A truce has been called.  Will Adam and James get together for a little business talk? Hm. We may never know.

Oh, and in other news, James tweets that Idol tour rehearsals begin tomorrow (Monday).

eta: Is James reading here? lulz:

“for the record, I wish Daughtry could give me advice..That would be gooder than good :)”

Shortly after Adam told The Hollywood Reporter that he was “kind of over” James–a contestant Adam praised in the early weeks of Season 10–James began sniping at the Season 8 runner up in the press.

After the MTV interview, Adam responded via twitter, “in regards to Idol I’ve said way too much. Media turns non-personal, honest opinions into “feuds”…like mom taught:  ‘if u don’t have anything nice to say- don’t say it all’  sorry if I hurt any feelings- not my intent.”

  • McCreerian

    James came across as desperate. I prefer him over Adam as a person and a singer, but come on James.

  • Buffynut

    That was a very entertaining 30 minutes!

  • CindyM

    I’m just surprised he tweeted Adam. He’s expressed time and again that David Cook is his favorite and inspires him, I’d think he’d tweet him instead.

  • songsungblue

    I prefer him over Adam as a person

    Really? Do you know something I don’t know? I am NOT an Adam fan beyond passing interest, but he has been pretty smart career wise, and he comes across to me as very smart and sensitive. Heh. Your quintessential nice Jewish boy! ;)

    I can understand why James wants to talk to him. Maybe he has a deal on the table? But it IS weird doing it over twitter. What’s wrong with email?

  • McCreerian

    I’m just surprised he tweeted Adam. He’s expressed time and again that David Cook is his favorite and inspires him, I’d think he’d tweet him instead.

    I think he just wanted to publicly show that there isn’t any beef. He is still owned by 19e so they should have easy connections.

  • McCreerian

    Really? Do you know something I don’t know? I am NOT an Adam fan beyond passing interest, but he has been pretty smart career wise, and he comes across to me as very smart and sensitive. Heh. Your quintessential nice Jewish boy!

    JMO sorry.

  • Trina

    Oh that so wasn’t random. I’m sure there are plenty of Idols James could reach out to if he wanted for advice. IMO something was said to him today and he wanted to make his little truce thing as public as possible.

    There are some James fans being a little obnoxious but I’m seeing a lot of “aww boys” LOL Frankly I was hoping they would have saw each other at the finale and hugged it out.

  • McCreerian

    I’m sure there are plenty of Idols James could reach out to if he wanted for advice. IMO something was said to him today and he wanted to make his little truce thing as public as possible.

    My thoughts exactly. Why not go to Daughtry instead? They are both family men, both went out at 4th, and both rockers. I think he wanted to put an end to the public’s perception that they are bitter enemies.

  • soverymel

    Still don’t get why James couldn’t just go through channels at 19 instead taking to twitter, a lot LOL, but maybe some of you are right and he just wanted to do it publicly after Adam basically did the same thing (in a lot fewer words though) in his last twitter party several days ago.

    Feels a bit odd, though.

    Hopefully the fans of each of them can recognize that there’s no bad blood between them at all, and stop any residual fanwarring that might still be going on. Heck they weren’t even in the same season, it’s silly.

  • Kirsten

    Why do I sense Fuller is involved in all this? I can see some manager telling them both to make nice.

    The conversation is so stilted. Like that time Joey wrote a script for Chandler and Ross so they would stop fighting. Maybe Tribbiani wrote this one too.

    Whatever. Feuding in public is not a good idea for either of them, so hopefully that is the end of that. And if Fuller is involved in this detente, then that is probably good news for Durbin (why would he care if he isn’t signing up James and he probably wouldn’t sign him without a record deal).

    I’m just surprised he tweeted Adam. He’s expressed time and again that David Cook is his favorite and inspires him, I’d think he’d tweet him instead.

    AFAIK, there has been no public feud between Cook and James.

  • Marie23

    Bringing this over from headlines.

    It’s funny that James is asking Adam for advise, but also seems to be apologizing to his fans for talking to him. I’m really neither here nor there on James, but this is pretty funny, looking at all the fans of Adam, tweeting to Adam, asking Adam to dm them, lol.

    soverymel says:
    06/06/2011 at 1:05 am

    I don’t get why James wouldn’t just reach out to Adam through 19 if he wanted advice or something. I mean, they both share the same management, it can’t be that hard.

    Thinking the same thing, unless…James isn’t managed by 19m
    Not trying to start anything, but why is he asking Adam, instead of Cook?

  • Mel1

    Durbin fans weren’t happy with Adam when he switched his allegiance to Haley. Some of them actually thought Adam was responsible for James boot because of that.

  • soverymel

    I’m just surprised he tweeted Adam. He’s expressed time and again that David Cook is his favorite and inspires him, I’d think he’d tweet him instead.

    Whatever. Feuding in public is not a good idea for either of them, so hopefully that is the end of that. And if Fuller is involved in this detente, then that is probably good news for Durbin (why would he care if he isn’t signing up James and he probably wouldn’t sign him without a record deal).

    AFAIK, there has been no public feud between Cook and James.

    Well, that’s assuming that James is lying and he really doesn’t want any advice, it’s all a setup by Fuller to smooth over Durbin’s public image.

    Not so sure that’s the case here. I really don’t think James is that devious.

  • Mel1

    I doubt anyone took the “feud” seriously, esp management.

  • YeahRight

    I still smell the desperation on Durbin.

  • CindyM

    Mel1 says:
    06/06/2011 at 1:25 am

    I doubt anyone took the “feud” seriously, esp management.

    Exactly. Adam’s statement two weeks ago was the last time he spoke of it and he apologized for hurt feelings. It’s been a dead issue for a couple of weeks and was completely lost with the news from the finale.

    Maybe it’s just the simple explanation and Durbin wanted advice. Maybe he’s getting the push to drop the “metal” and go more mainstream and he wants advice. The difference there though, is that Adam said from the start of music talks that he would be doing pop, so while some fans may have been surprised at the change, it wasn’t the same situation James could be facing now.

  • Trina

    At least until the end of the tour they’re all managed by 19 to some extent though aren’t they? And what is it he doesn’t wanna spoil on Twitter? Whatever changed he said he’s happy so that’s good..

    ETA: I doubt anyone took the “feud” seriously, but James is new to all this and god knows someone needs to help him with some PR coaching even if its for future media.

  • smeggingnuts

    Not so sure that’s the case here. I really don’t think James is that devious.

    Haha yeah but 19 and Fuller have no qualms about altering perceptions to fit their ends. This whole thing smells of PR. But like Kristen said thins might be a good sign for James. It could mean they are thinking of signing him and want the “feud” cleared up. Or they just don’t want the fued to overshadow any tour press.

  • soverymel

    I’m glad people are putting “feud” into air quotes as it deserves, because LOL at the idea that it was that big of a deal to either of them.

  • Kirsten

    I doubt anyone took the “feud” seriously, esp management.

    Management should take it seriously. These things have a way of bubbling out of control. Just look at Taylor’s fizzle-gate. Some little comment to a small magazine was ripped out of context and blew up the week he released his album. Who needs to fight fires like that? Put them out when they are small and you don’t have to deal with a sh!tstorm at the worst possible moment.

    If Durbin and Adam are both scheduled to release albums in November, does Fuller really want the press focused on the “feud” between them instead of the albums? They both come off like a$$hats in that “feud”. We all have seen how many times Scotty/Lauren and Casey/Haley have had to answer the dating questions. Once there is something gossipy to talk about, that’s all the press wants to talk about.

    Anyway, best to bury the hatchet now.

    Well, that’s assuming that James is lying and he really doesn’t want any advice, it’s all a setup by Fuller to smooth over Durbin’s public image.

    There is nothing wrong with taking PR advice from a PR person. A smart person knows they are not an expert on everything. People have managers for a reason.

  • readon

    Olive Branch? I don’t think so. An olive branch offer usually doesn’t come with a request for something. J/S YMMV.

    IMHO, the olive branch occurred when Adam stated on twitter that he probably had said too much and didn’t intend to hurt anyone’s feeling.

  • CindyM

    LOL Lyndsey.

    lyndseyparker
    @JDurbinAI10 @adamlambert Kindly send me a transcript of your lunch conversation when it takes place. K thanks 10 minutes ago via Echofon

  • Niall

    Seems like James just wants to patch things up so whatever sour feelings there might be can go away. It seems very James-like for him to tweet Adam. The uproar among the fans on twitter is the funny part. It’s like, damn people none of you are on their management teams so your opinion is meaningless. LOL

  • soamused

    Someone looks like he’s desperately seeking coattails to ride….

  • LongKissGoodnight

    Buries face in hands. Laughs…

    I love Adam.
    I sympathize with James as person.

    But, dude come on… Even if the hole “I am not gonna betray my fans like Adam Lambert did” didn’t take place is it reasonable to expect someone you met only briefly to drop everything and sprint to you to talk career strategies? I somehow doubt that brotherhood of Idol is that strong. %)

    Twitter is the devil, indeed.

    P.S. Carrie is supposedly up to the task. Scotty should have her number. Lol.

  • eyelinerandcigarettes

    I think James and Adam seem sincere. It’s good to know there’s no “bad blood” between them.

  • Miss Chaos

    What could Adam possibly help James with, except to help him learn to sing on key. Maybe he wants singing lessons,lol

  • CindyM

    awww, I missed the Dee Snyder tweet:

    deesnider
    @adamlambert sings his ass off! RT @JDurbinAI10 Have I shocked any DURBINATORS with that one? lol Adam was http://tl.gd/au5trn about 2 hours ago via TwitBird iPad

    JDurbinAI10
    @deesnider @adamlambert that he does! Honestly..he opened the door on Idol for guys like me. Nuff said. :) Where you at Dee? LA? about 2 hours ago via web in reply to deesnider

    C’mon Feel The Noize!!

  • McCreerian

    Someone looks like he’s desperately seeking coattails to ride….

    And I thought James didn’t want to make an “electro-pop” album? Come on James, I know you are better than that…stick with your guns…

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I don’t think Fuller or management is involved. I think James was publicly apologizing to Adam by reaching out to him. There is a good chance they’ll never get together, but it really doesn’t matter. The “feud” is over.

  • soverymel

    The “feud” is over.

    LOL such as it was. I’m glad though, it was ridic. Hopefully fans can move on since both of the artists they follow have.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    What could Adam possibly help James with, except to help him learn to sing on key. Maybe he wants singing lessons,lol

    I realize you’re being sarcastic, but the music business is tough and yes, Adam can have advice that would be valuable to James. No doubt Adam would be gracious to give it, too.

  • YeahRight

    CindyM says:

    LOL Lyndsey.

    lyndseyparker
    @JDurbinAI10 @adamlambert Kindly send me a transcript of your lunch conversation when it takes place. K thanks 10 minutes ago via Echofon

    Of course she would get in on it.

  • madnessinmotion

    Maybe I am reading more into James’ tweets than are really there but I am a Glambert who has actually been one of James’ fans since I saw his first audition and have been looking forward to seeing him on the Idol tour. His tweets to Adam tonight made me mad at him, though.

    Adam basically buried whatever hatchet/fued/misunderstandings there were between them when the tweeted a couple of weeks ago that he was sorry for any hurt feelings and it wasn’t his intention. If James truly needed/wanted Adam’s advice (and I think he does) then he should have asked without references to bad blood and asking for a truce like he was the big man. That came across as making James seem like he was forgiving Adam for something Adam already said wasn’t his intention without acknowledging Adam had already addressed it.

    James is the only season 10 Idol I have seen in pics with Adam so Adam clearly was not ‘anti-James’. James said he was heavy metal while Adam makes electronic pop music and they really don’t have much in common other than range. If he had to make reference to past comments he should have said something to Adam to make up for that since it came across as dissing when he said it. But really, he should have just asked for Adam’s time in a respectful manner and let Adam take it from there. Adam deserves his respect because James would not have been the James we saw on Idol if Adam had not gone before him.

    Ok, I’m done….and not looking forward to the Idol tour nearly as much as I was. :(

  • Trina

    Amidst all the Adam stuff I missed the pic James tweeted of himself with his son and Heidi taken before he left for rehearsals. Little Hunter looks like he was crying :( aw sadz.

  • jammasta

    I kinda rolled my eyes and saw a bit of desperation. I was pretty disappointed when Adam said he wanted to do electronic music (to the point where I began to vote for Kris extremely strongly, but, for some reason, I ended up getting and appreciating Adam’s album), and I hope James doesn’t go that way.

    I didn’t even know there was a feud if there even was one.

  • madnessinmotion

    Oh, an furthermore, James makes it clear in his tweet that he really has no idea what is going on in Adam’s career or life when he says ‘glad your tour is going great’ since Adam hasn’t been on tour since December. I think that may actually be what made me mad at James, lol

  • CindyM

    madnessinmotion says:
    06/06/2011 at 2:27 am

    Oh, an furthermore, James makes it clear in his tweet that he really has no idea what is going on in Adam’s career or life when he says ‘glad your tour is going great’ since Adam hasn’t been on tour since December. I think that may actually be what made me mad at James, lol

    Eh, you can’t be mad at that. James has been extremely busy with the AI stuff and probably decompressing from Idol. If you did a google search on Adam, the Moscow Russia show is pretty much the latest story. I don’t expect James to know it was a one-off show. So see? No need to be mad :)

  • Susan

    LOL… for those who wonder why James doesn’t ask Cook or Daughtry…

    for the record, I wish Daughtry could give me advice..That would be gooder than good :)

  • CindyM

    for the record, I wish Daughtry could give me advice..That would be gooder than good :)

    ::::::::::::waiting for the tweets to Chris to start::::::::::::

  • madnessinmotion

    haha, CindyM, you could be right. I guess he has had a little bit of excitement going on in his own life that gives him an excuse for not being completely up to date on what’s going on in Adam’s life. Ok, I will stick to my earlier listed reasons for being irritated with him. :)

  • madnessinmotion

    Is Chris on Twitter? I follow David but I don’t follow Chris so I thought he wasn’t on there.

  • soverymel

    I dunno madnessinmotion, I think you might be reading too much into it.

  • Susan

    Is Chris on Twitter? I follow David but I don’t follow Chris so I thought he wasn’t on there.

    I think someone mentioned a tweet from Chris Daughtry after he saw the blowfish screen shot during the “most shocking” skit on the finale.

  • madnessinmotion

    Thanks, sovermel, maybe I should just go to bed and think about it again tomorrow. I really like James so maybe I am just being too sensitive over Adam is my problem. The funny thing is that I am usually sitting back and laughing at Glamberts who jump to his defense all the time and here I sit doing it against another Idol that I really like. Good night. :)

  • YeahRight

    for the record, I wish Daughtry could give me advice..That would be gooder than good :)

    Not a word.

    Still smell the desperation on you, Durbin.

  • smeggingnuts

    Haha Durbin through out Daughtrys name to calm his followers who freaked over him asking Adam for “advice”

  • McCreerian

    He should just ask Steven Tyler for advice. ;)

  • Trina

    Chris is on Twitter, and James started following him tonight..

    Hes on a tweet spree, and has tweeted more tonight than he has in a month LOL and hes rambling a bit now. I think he really does genuinely needs advice about something Uh well he just used the word “poppy”. I understand the context he used it in, but I expect a meltdown of sorts in the fandom.

    ETA: “gooder” is a slang term. My daughter uses that word sometimes.

  • Lulu2

    It’s funny. To me, people I know, in and out of “the business” in L.A., think James should have won. LOTS of them. No one, country fans or country business ever mention or care about the eventual Top 2. So weird. Me: Haley should have won, but I was over Idol when Pia went out. Because it should have been, by talent, Haley, Pia, Casey, Naima, James, Jacob. Scotty’s a nice kid, and so is Lauren. But come on. Seriously. Idol’s going to have to change its voting or die. People who vote aren’t buying record in the long run.

  • McCreerian

    Nvm.

  • HotHotHot

    I think it’s just a PR stunt. Maybe trying to work up a little press.

  • tomk

    Hes on a tweet spree, and has tweeted more tonight than he has in a month LOL and hes rambling a bit now. I think he really does genuinely needs advice about something Uh well he just used the word “poppy”. I understand the context he used it in, but I expect a meltdown of sorts in the fandom.

    Peisha McPhee started tweeting him tonight (I assume she was his vocal coach?) It was almost as if she was trying to put him at ease or something. Something hyped James up tonight to quite an extreme. Could be leaving his family, could be anything – who knows.

  • McCreerian

    well as much as they’d love it..just as u don’t wanna spoil ur album, I don’t wanna spoil anything lol…you understand right?

    I wonder what he means by this? Possible record deal maybe?

  • soverymel

    I wonder what he means by this? Possible record deal maybe?

    Wasn’t the information on their web site names being linked to Universal Music a tip off that both Haley and James are being signed?

  • HotHotHot

    I wonder what he means by this? Possible record deal maybe?

    Wasn’t the information on their web site names being linked to Universal Music a tip off that both Haley and James are being signed?

    They probably told him he couldn’t make a metal album, if he wanted to get signed.

  • EmyR

    It’s funny. To me, people I know, in and out of “the business” in L.A., think James should have won. LOTS of them. No one, country fans or country business ever mention or care about the eventual Top 2.

    Odd, being from around Nashville, the only thing I ever heard was how the country kid (Scotty specifically) had Idol in the bag from the beginning, and rightfully so. I guess I can understand why people in LA might not see it that way (though I could have sworn more people in the biz put their weight behind Haley than anyone else), but down here in the country capital, it was only about Lauren and Scotty.

    I think the whole tweeting this was for press. He may also genuinely want to talk to Adam, but that’s what his PR team is for. Going to a public forum to ask is a way to grab back the attention and buzz he had when he was on the show or immediately after his boot, which sadly has gone away for him and most of these kids this season already. I think it’ll come back some ones they start working on their albums and such, so I’m looking forward to that.

  • McCreerian

    Going to a public forum to ask is a way to grab back the attention and buzz he had when he was on the show or immediately after his boot, which sadly has gone away for him and most of these kids this season already. I think it’ll come back some ones they start working on their albums and such, so I’m looking forward to that.

    I don’t think it has too much for the top 3 and definitely not for Scotty. I think Scotty and Lauren continue to get a lot of attention(more so Scotty). I think the buzz being down with the others is typical for most idol seasons. The ones who don’t get signed will most likely be forgotten about by the general public. Sadly its like that every season. Most casual viewers for example only really remember Danny, Kris, and Adam for S8, Casey, Crystal, and Lee for S9, the two Davids from S7, etc. I think anybody who isn’t Haley, Lauren, and Scotty(and possibly Pia) will be facing a big uphill battle to stay in the public eye. This is why I am glad UMG is promoting the hell out of Scotty and Lauren-and even they could use a little more promotion IMO(even though UMG is doing way better than Sony so I probably shouldn’t complain lol).

  • EmyR

    I don’t think it has too much for the top 3 and definitely not for Scotty. I think Scotty and Lauren continue to get a lot of attention(more so Scotty). I think the buzz being down with the others is typical for most idol seasons.

    This is what I meant when I used the qualifier “most” lol. I would even argue that it’s not the top 3 so much as the top 2 that maintain more buzz than most others. In season 7, it was all about the Davids and season 8 was all about Kradam. I don’t think much attention was given to anyone in season, sadly.

    I’m quite impressed with UMG’s handling of Scotty and Lauren. They were not my favorite two, and I found their final performance night to be boring once I watched it, but they always had such great potential to be big money makers and UMG seems to right on board making sure this happens. Haley is getting less buzz now, but I’m glad she’s still getting press.

    Poor James and everyone else, they’re left to their own devices to stay in the public eye and it’s coming off a little desperate or ludicrous in some cases (the whole twitter thing with Adam, Nikki Reed engagement rumors).

  • lorismile

    I personally read Adam’s tweets as heavy sarcasm. “Lets discuss over twitter” LOL.

    I think James’s TV adoration has crashed hard with real life.

    Loved Dee Snider’s tweet to James about Adam. :-)

  • Moria Polonius

    Maybe it’s just the simple explanation and Durbin wanted advice. Maybe he’s getting the push to drop the “metal” and go more mainstream and he wants advice.

    That would be the only way to look at it aside from a publicity stunt. James wants a career advice from a person who, according to him, pissed off the fans by betraying rock and going pop? Maybe, if he’s being pushed to do the same. Only, like CindyM said, Adam wasn’t pushed but wanted it, so what advice could Adam give? Apparently James doesn’t know much about Adam’s career (not should he, unless he wants a career advice).I can imagine that transcript Lindsey Parker wants:

    James: “So what did you tell them when they gave you a… a… uh, a GAGA song?”
    Adam: “I didn’t tell them anything because I was too busy squeeing like a 12 year old fangirl. Then I went down on my knees and considered subscribing to a religion.”
    James: “But you were confused at first, right? Angry a little? How did you deal with that?”
    Adam: “Well, I think they were more confused, but they convinced me pretty quickly that I should put a bit of rock into my electro-pop.”
    James: “…. So how do you deal with entitled fans?”
    Adam: “Now, here’s something I can probably give you advice about.”

    And let’s not forget that Adam and Daughtry were both very much wanted by the producers, and I’m not so sure of James. If James asks how to proceed so that he would get signed and maintain his artistic integrity… Neither Adam not Daughtry, I believe, had to face the possibility of not getting signed.

    On another note: This headline placed halfway between the Cheryl Cole and X-factor adventures made my eyeballs get lost somewhere in the back of my head. How low I have fallen, I thought.

  • tls62

    I personally read Adam’s tweets as heavy sarcasm. “Lets discuss over twitter” LOL.

    I think James’s TV adoration has crashed hard with real life.

    That was my take as well on both points.

  • emmuzka

    James: “So what did you tell them when they gave you a… a… uh, a GAGA song?”
    Adam: “I didn’t tell them anything because I was too busy squeeing like a 12 year old fangirl. Then I went down on my knees and considered subscribing to a religion.”

    LOL!
    Adam’s advice, should he ever gave James one, should be: “Make yourself pleasing to the producers and songwriters. Be nice to work with, never slander anyone that you might end up working with, keep a high work morale, sing so good that people want you to sing their songs and productions.”

    How about that?

    About the “olive branch” thing: Adam was a tough growd, but James persisted, and maybe they’ll have lunch and maybe they don’t. Doesn’t really matter, the gesture went through just fine.

  • musicality

    Damn! I was hoping to never here about James Durbin again. Sounds like an attention seeking publicity stunt. Durbin gets the most press when he rides off the coat tails of Lambert. So viola he’s doing it again and guess what old Durby boy is getting attention once again. After seeing those cringe inducing videos of Durby at Lenox square I say good luck to you. You need it.

    What do you fans of Adam think of Adam meeting up with James? Do you think he should? Personally if I was Adam I wouldn’t. Also, MJ said Adam answered almost immediately. I wonder if TPTB orchestrated this.

  • Studio57

    Sounds to me like Durbin got smacked hard with the reality of “bringing metal back”. Ain’t gonna happen. Not from an idol contestant anyway.

  • JosieCat

    Why do I sense Fuller is involved in all this? I can see some manager telling them both to make nice.

    I don’t know. If this were cooked up by Fuller to dispel the “feud” talk, it might have been a good idea for Fuller to let Adam in on it – because I got the impression Adam’s reaction was, understandably enough, more “WTF?” than anything. If this were indeed a “scripted” situation, why wouldn’t that script have called for Adam to agree to meet James (whether or not the meeting ever actually took place)? Or at least explain why a meeting isn’t possible, if Adam is going to be recording elsewhere while the Idols are rehearsing in LA? If a public olive branch were the goal, it would have made more sense for James to just make some sort of comment, via Twitter or during an interview, that he respects Adam, that there are no hard feelings, yada yada yada – not for James to publicly put Adam on the spot to request a luncheon meeting to solicit advice from him.

    As it stands, to the extent that this gets noticed outside of the fandom at all, the only likely result will likely be to elicit more Adam-related questions for James during the tour. “Did you ever have that lunch with Adam?” “Why didn’t Adam want to meet with you?” “Are you angry that Adam didn’t meet with you?” It all seems rather counter-productive to me, and more likely to actually revive the talk of a feud – possibly at Adam’s expense. If Adam doesn’t have that luncheon with James, as I assume he will not, how will James spin it?

    Given the likelihood that James’s tour reviews will not infrequently include Adam comparisons, and given the fact that James was less than happy about Adam comparisons in the past – and given that James didn’t seem too impressed with Adam’s post-Idol artistic decisions – this whole exchange was simply bizarre.

  • EmyR

    What do you fans of Adam think of Adam meeting up with James? Do you think he should? Personally if I was Adam I wouldn’t. Also, MJ said Adam answered almost immediately. I wonder if TPTB orchestrated this.

    Well, Adam answered in about an hour; he’d been on twitter right when James originally tweeted talking about the MTV Movie Awards. I think it took a little time for him to notice (ie people spamming him about it) before he answered. I agree though that it seems like such a attention grabbing type of move when, if he really wanted to talk, he’d do so in a less public manner (or even through his handler).

    Adam fans, from what I can tell, don’t really care one way or another. They seem to be more interested in discussing who he might have worked with in London and working with in Miami right now. I kind of hope they will sit down just to put everything to rest once and for all.

    given the fact that James was less than happy about Adam comparisons in the past

    Maybe James shouldn’t have compared himself to Adam on camera then. I don’t think they were alike much stylistically on the show, so I can see how that’s frustrating, but honestly, it’s at least partially his fault for saying it in the first place.

  • Avari

    Oh James. The big bad world is just gonna eat you alive.

    Anyway, it’s obvious (to me :-)) what has happened. James just saw some of Adam’s footage from the Maxidrom rock festival, and is determined to aspire to that.

  • Studio57

    Good article from MTV with advice for Durbs from Howard Benson ( Daughtry producer).

    http://twitter.com/#!/933flz

    Avari- that actually sounds plausible since it was a heavy metal concert and James seemed to be under the impression that Adam was on tour. Adam playing before thousands of Russian rock fans- maybe Durbs is enjoying some crow right now.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    James: “So what did you tell them when they gave you a… a… uh, a GAGA song?”

    James needs someone to advise him about his runaway mouth ASAP. After hearing this interview where James publicly bashed Gaga’s OTT onstage theatrics as excessive and distracting, and then compared them unfavorably to his own antics (flaming piano, drum corps), which he claimed added to and enhanced his performance, he needs someone to tell him to stfu. He clearly has no clue about the difference between performance art (Gaga) and gimmicks (James). Pretty arrogant.

  • Pixie Baker

    From the beginning I thought James was so naive, idealistic and therefore vulnerable. I give him lots of *props* for doing well on Idol. I just never could connect with him…I thought he was *playing the part* of a *rock* musician.
    Seems to me that James needs someone to guide him but not another Idol. Hopefully someone in the music producing world will take him under their wing and guide him……someone he likes and can trust. Hmmmm….wonder if that exists in this world…….

  • Pixie Baker

    BTW, I think Adam was so funny to suggest discussing on Twitter….what sarcasm!

  • Trina

    From earlier yesterday to the time James got to LA for rehearsals IMO something happened or was said to him and I think it was big enough to make him think a lot. I seriously doubt he was just sitting around and suddenly realized he better start drumming up some publicity stunt because the harsh reality of losing buzz once Idol is over hit him. I absolutely do think the harsh reality of wanting to make a metal album crashed yesterday. Like someone said, something happened that really hyped him. Look at all his tweets even the ones that happened after the whole exchange with Adam and how he was rambling about the album. I think he was told Interscope/19 want to sign him but that he better be prepared to go more mainstream than what hes been wanting. the last few weeks he’s been screaming “give metal a chance” and has firmly been talking up starting a band and making a metal album, up until yesterday morning he was saying what his sound will be (he tweeted the night before about this Swedish metal band saying this is what he will sound like). Then last night he was almost backtracking talking about them but also how he wants poppy chorus songs and how even though he wants to record metal and he’s perfectly willing to listen to any ideas producers have. Then he was saying he wants to try and make all his fans happy with whatever he records (uh yeah good look wit that one). Adam fans may understand that Adam did what he wanted, but if James truly does feel he had to make an album that wasn’t all him and lost fans because of it, everything last night just seemed like he was being hit with the same thing and was almost rattled.

  • Avari

    Studio57 – yup. I really do think that is part of it. Adam was amazing at Maxidrom, if the vids are any indication, and if James did see that…he must have been blown away.

    I feel for James. He just strikes me as this poor kid floundering around making mistake after mistake. Reaching out publicly to Adam via twitter, and risking the combined wrath of the glamberts and the durbinators at the same time? Not the best move IMO. But then I do firmly believe that twitter is evil.

  • Studio57

    Honestly, I think the MTV article w/ Howard Benson is exactly what James must have been told:

    “If you want to be commercially successful and you’re going in this [old-school metal] direction, that’s a huge gamble,” Benson said. “It’s OK to make that gamble because it’s your career. But if it doesn’t work, you have to be prepared for that.”

  • theonlygirl

    I love Adam and his snark! The sarcastic responses to Durbin where on point and perfect.

    I hope they never meet, because Adam doesn’t need Durbin, while Durbin is clearly trying to ride the coattails and gain some fast publicity since he saw that the so called orchestrated by him “feud” got him media/blog articles. He clearly doesn’t care about Adam or his advice. He said he shat on his fans like 3 weeks ago, and says he doesn’t like his music. He also specifies that he’s a “happy man” when tweeting him. Douche, firstly, adam is in a relationship, secondly, gay men are not predators, thirdly, even if you were the last man on earth i think adam would prefer celibacy.

    Long point short: LOL Durbin. Adam, yay for him being polite and answering while being the right amount of snarky that’s not mean. because that’s what Adam is. Awesomeness!

  • readon

    Is there a link to any recent James Durbin performances that have been referenced in this thread? Has James performed outside of idol and the homecoming performances?

  • jpfan

    I don’t follow james but it does seem that he has some major decision to make about his career. Kind of similiar to the one Gokey had to make about going country.

    I feel for the kid because 1)they’re really getting shafted on the $ for the tour 2)he has no family to support him but in fact has a family to support.

    I hope it all works out for him and he gets some good guidance.
    Reaching out to former Idols is kind of sad. He should have tweeted Daughtry also because Daughtry is a decent guy who probably could give him some good advice. Plus Daughtry also had the additional burden of a family to worry about.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Why do I sense Fuller is involved in all this? I can see some manager telling them both to make nice.

    Why would Fuller (XIX) be involved? He is only under contract to manage the AI10 Top2 finishers. The others would be managed by 19.

  • Avari

    To comment on an earlier question, from what I’ve seen, it seems that many of Adam’s fans (and I don’t speak for all of them, obviously) would just prefer Adam to not associate himself with James at all. Nothing against James particularly, it’s just he’s a bit of a loose cannon. Any kind of adam-attention seems to blow up in the media, and Adam fans just don’t want this to end badly for Adam.

    I can’t read the Howard Benson article at work, but, again, poor James. Never mind that it’s good advice, it’s tough having your dreams crushed. Ah well. Better this happens BEFORE he makes his album than after!

  • Chicagolaw

    I think Durbin probably saw some footage of Adam’s very rock Russian show. Or, some of his WWF friends got wind of it and shared (Jericho is also an Adam fan, or, at leasted tweeted very positively about him in the past).

    I don’t think Fuller is involved. I think this is how James Durbin extends an olive branch. Take that as you will.

    So, did he re-follow Adam, lol.

    ETA: James needs help from someone. Mostly he needs guidance to navigate all the media and a little PR training.

  • BootStar

    I’m embarrassed for both of them. If either really cared what the other had to say, they’d take it offline. Public twitter conversations are all about PR for oneself.

  • jpfan

    I’m not sure a video of a Russian concert is involved here. It’s pretty obvious that James has something going on in his life that requires some help. Unless he did this as a publicity stunt which doesn’t fit his persona. I think James is pretty unfiltered and what you see is what you get.

    S10 contestants are really getting screwed with all the new singing shows around. In the past, fans would lose interest when the new Idol came around. Now with The Voice and the X Factor, they’ll be forgotten much sooner.

  • Jae

    I was sort of glad that James called truce. Really as an Adam fan, who has been a fan of the dude for like 2.5 year now, and as someone who initially liked James a lot, his press reactions to Adam’s comments and some of the things he has said implicitly about Adam and his music left me a little annoyed. And please don’t bring up his very mild aspergers. But that he was grown up enough to reach out makes me think more of him. Glad Adam was a pro and responded so positively.

    I still think James should go the band route, ala CD. I really can’t see him as a solo artist. The band would balance him out I better I think.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t follow James closely, but he’s made some pretty unwise, naive, conceited and downright stupid public comments post-Idol, especially about recording a metal album. His most recent twitter comments seem to be backtracking on that initial declaration, which means that he will likely end up doing what he wrongly accused Adam of doing – recording a different kind of album that he originally said that he would, possibly in order to be signed. Ironic.

  • Avari

    jpan – probably a combination of different things led to his tweets, concert vids possibly being one of them.

    But I don’t think that Fuller or anyone else is involved. I suspect this is James all on his own. Awwww. I hope someone behind the scenes can take him under their wing and give him the guidance he needs.

    ETA: Or, what Chicagolaw just said upthread. :-)

  • lulwut

    I think what James says is genuine. He has a family to support and is really in need of a deal. Best luck to his effort. Maybe he won’t sign with a major label, but hopefully he can make a comfortable living after idol.

  • lucy

    He should just ask Steven Tyler for advice. ;)

    That would be beautiful.

  • Jae

    Lulu2 says:
    06/06/2011 at 3:01 am
    It’s funny. To me, people I know, in and out of “the business” in L.A., think James should have won. LOTS of them. No one, country fans or country business ever mention or care about the eventual Top 2. So weird. Me: Haley should have won, but I was over Idol when Pia went out.

    Interesting. I never thought James would win. He was interesting and had a rock wail but he wasn’t as good a vocalist or as personally charming as Adam and Adam only got to #2 so I was pretty sure James wouldn’t make it to #1. I did expect him to be top three though. I had thought it would be Scotty,Haley, James for top three (after Pia left early. I had her picked for #1 because she had the most potential for a growth arc).

    As for scotty, I am predicting right now that he will have the best selling Idol winner album debut since David Cook. He may even best David if he has the right material. Hopefully people will steer him out of this old style country thing he has in his head. If he gets some Keith Urbanesque, Kenny Chesney, Garthish stuff on there, I would even buy it. But that old stuff is just barely listenable to me. Lol.

  • Joyed

    James will probably be the most interesting contestant to track from this season – will he get signed or will he become the next Siobhan? I honestly think he is not emotionally prepared for the business of “after idol” and hope he has a great support system.

  • ibhde10

    James needs to read Chris Sligh’s blog.

  • Mary102

    Ok, first – James is ridiculous. Though I have to admit the whole thing last night was beyond funny. And Adam responding back with the perfect amount of kind snark just completely made my night. But otoh, James was just kinda sad about the whole thing, which just made it a bit uncomfortable. It was definitely becoming one of those, “step away from the twitter, Durbin!” moments for awhile there. lol.

  • alison8701

    ugh, this is SO annoying. James is being the “bigger man” aka the bigger douche and forcing Adam in an uncomfortable position. If he declines, James can say “I extended an olive branch… and Adam snapped it in half.” Adam clearly does not want to hang out with James and isn’t going to be manipulated in to it.

    And he always is like, Did I shock anyone?! heh heh ;) :D no. you didn’t. everything you do is a contrived mess. and we’re not falling for your shiz, Durbin.

  • Mary102

    Oh, and my other thought about James: I can’t feel too sorry for him, because dude shouldn’t have burned all those bridges and come across as “too cool for school” after AI. The music biz is hard, and the best advice he COULD take from Adam would be to network, network, network – make friends in the music biz, don’t bash everyone left and right as soon as you’re off the show. He essentially shot himself in the foot with all of that nonsense.

  • Mary102

    BootStar says:
    06/06/2011 at 7:50 am
    I’m embarrassed for both of them. If either really cared what the other had to say, they’d take it offline. Public twitter conversations are all about PR for oneself.

    Wat? Embarassed for Adam?! Then clearly you do not read “nice snark”, which is exactly what he was offering there. His reaction was perfect.

  • yellin

    One thing is certain after reading through these comments, it is a good thing he is surrounded by some pretty great people, in and OUT of the entertainment industry. James already had lots of people around him before idol that were/are in the business, and he is not as dumb as you all seem to think he is. But his Aspergers is going to come across to the ignorant as “forward/cockiness/stupidity/arrogance/ etc. so he is going to have to keep the right people close to him, and some tough skin. PR stunt? um…not even close. Best of luck to him with WHATEVER direction he goes in. “Success” is measured differently by different people and it isn’t always about the millions of dollars, big houses, and sales, but doing what you love for those that love you.

  • Mary102

    Any kind of adam-attention seems to blow up in the media, and Adam fans just don’t want this to end badly for Adam.

    Actually, most of us just think Adam has better, more important things to deal with than James’s “verbal face-palmy moments” in the media, tbh.

  • TurkeyIdol

    I think they should make a real life movie of Beavis and Butthead with James starring in both roles! :)

  • JazzRocks

    I have no problem with James tweeting Adam for advice. It certainly doesn’t harm Adam in any way – quite the contrary. But I do have a problem with this part:

    He also specifies that he’s a “happy man” when tweeting him. Douche, firstly, adam is in a relationship, secondly, gay men are not predators, thirdly, even if you were the last man on earth i think adam would prefer celibacy.

    That’s pretty darn douchey imo.

  • lucy

    Oh, and my other thought about James: I can’t feel too sorry for him, because dude shouldn’t have burned all those bridges and come across as “too cool for school” after AI. The music biz is hard, and the best advice he COULD take from Adam would be to network, network, network – make friends in the music biz, don’t bash everyone left and right as soon as you’re off the show. He essentially shot himself in the foot with all of that nonsense.

    Honestly, though, I don’t think that James’ level of experience, plus his personality issues, make him the kind of person who could know this and act on it at this point.

    In my opinion, if he is going to try to be in the entertainment industry, he really really really really really needs some very strong, knowledgeable friends, family members, employees and industry contacts who can help him cope with and maintain his stability in it, especially since his position as a young father without many external resources to fall back on, apparently, has to increase the stakes and thus the anxieties for him.

    Show business is a very tough life even for those who *can* accurately and easily read the messages others are sending and censor and shape their own communications to fit the occasion, among other people skills it requires, let alone for somebody who faces serious challenges in those areas. There are reasons why so many would-be entertainers end up with alcohol problems and the like. Opting for a business that’s so tough — and tough on you emotionally, for multiple reasons — exposes your vulnerabilities in ways that most other job choices don’t.

  • Chicagolaw

    The reason I think he saw some Adam video is because, first, it was a huge rock festival, and second, he seems to think Adam is on tour right now.

    I do think the idea to tweet Adam may have come from someone, but I don’t think it was 19 or Simon Fuller.

    And, I do think James may have been given some kind of ultimatum—if you want to be signed, you need to back off the metal. Which will be kind of difficult, because just a few days ago he was describing his sound as that of some Swedish hard rock band (can’t remember the name)

  • Mel1

    I agree with those who said Adam already apologized a couple of weeks ago saying he hadn’t meant to hurt anyone. The “feud” issue should have been closed then with everyone moving on.

  • Studio57

    I’m embarrassed for both of them. If either really cared what the other had to say, they’d take it offline. Public twitter conversations are all about PR for oneself.

    If Adam didn’t answer James on twitter, can you even imagine the grief he would have gotten for “snubbing” him? Adam handled it perfectly, as usual.

  • ross

    Wat? Embarassed for Adam?! Then clearly you do not read “nice snark”, which is exactly what he was offering there. His reaction was perfect.

    “Nice snark?” Can’t say I’ve ever heard that one. You can be nice to someone, or snarky to someone, but you can’t be both nice and snarky at the same time. Not possible.

    Maybe you meant “mild snark?” Nonetheless, snark is basically a smartass, cutting, biting comment or attitude. Friends do it to each other with affection, sometimes, but they’re friends. Using it on non-friends is never strictly nice. It’s always a put-down, however mild.

  • Tess

    There are reasons why so many would-be entertainers end up with alcohol problems and the like. Opting for a business that’s so tough — and tough on you emotionally, for multiple reasons — exposes your vulnerabilities in ways that most other job choices don’t.

    Well said, Lucy.

    We all have seen many past idolettes, whether top 20s or just auditioners, that have crashed and burned during or after the process….and AI does not, nor should they have to, provide safety nets for these people. (Though altruistic fans would beg to differ, I’m sure).

    The problem with life is that it takes a lot more than dreams or talent to reach goals…it takes a damn lot of common sense….and the older I get the more I understand that this quality is often in very short supply for a hell of a lot of people. And I just have a feeling that James came up with the short straw when it came to having much common sense (and I’m not into giving him a pass because he has some organic challenges).

    I don’t understand how after 10 years of idol anyone can get involved in the process and not have some realistic expectations….it’s like once they have reached level one of their “dream” they throw history out of the window and work within a set of parameters that have little if any basis in fact. (and fans don’t help by filling their heads full of hot air and unrealistic expectations).

    It sounds as though James has had some of his bubbles burst and now he is scrambling to understand a system that has been in place forever but didn’t register because James’ just didn’t have the common sense to deal with it. The guy is going to be holding on with his finger-tips for the months of the tour and then the inevitable crash and burn won’t be fun for any of us to watch…mark my words.

  • Mel1

    Honestly, I think the MTV article w/ Howard Benson is exactly what James must have been told:“If you want to be commercially successful and you’re going in this [old-school metal] direction, that’s a huge gamble

    Wasn’t Adam trying to give James that same advice?

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    Say what you want about Scotty and Haley–both of them seem to be emotionally mature (Haley’s talking-back to Randy and her expletive to Jimmy notwithstanding). Lauren seems well-adjusted for her age. But James…clearly needs some help.

  • Mel1

    “Nice snark?” Can’t say I’ve ever heard that one.

    Sure, one can be mean about it, and Adam wasn’t.

  • miniglik

    This doesn’t come off as either desperate or douchey to me. James is just awkward. If there’s one thing he’s been, it’s consistantly awkward. The problem, once again, is that people love to read more into awkward.

    I found the whole thing amusing, personally.

    (On another note, as someone who’s followed James pretty closely, he has said from the beginning that he wants something that’s both heavy and has enough of a hook for mainstream enough for radio, which was what he was saying on twitter last night. Whether that can be done or not is another matter, but I don’t think he’s changing his story. Yet.)

  • theonlygirl

    Plus, what if Adam was a bit bitchy about it? (which I didn’t quite see it like that in his responses. It was more like YEAH RIGHT snark) The guy basically trashed his whole post-idol career including his lone debut cd. he deserves some bitchiness in return, at the least. But Adam is too smart to be publically mean about it, because he’s not actually stupid.

  • cassie87

    I have a lot of respect for James. To be fair, he has something working aganst him that the others don’t have. The autism/asbergers. I’m not trying to use this as a crutch for him, BUT, this is a difficult thing to deal with. I’ve worked with kids who have this, and it’s a really devastating disease. It’s hard enough living with it, but living with it AND being in the spotlight…I can’t even imagine. I know it’s James’ choice, but just sayin…Anyway, I think James is doing well and I don’t care what anyone says, I really hope he becomes successful. Don’t get me wrong, I love Adam too. I just think the whole “feud” probably got blown way out of proportion by the media, as usual…

  • Mel1

    Oh, and since James mentioned something about Adam’s “tour”, he must have seen the Moscow videos. Maybe he wants to know how he can go about getting gigs like that.

  • Studio57

    Mel1- I do believe Adam has made it quite clear in the past where he thinks rock music stands today but I am not sure what exactly he has said to Durbin personally.

    My heart also goes out to James. Whether it is mild or not, James acts EXACTLY like a kid with Aspergers. Unless you know someone who has it, you just cannot understand how it works. My neighbor is James’ age and is an Aspy and they are two peas in a pod. They are naturally socially awkward. There are exceptions of course but I can never really fault James for his lack of social skills. I feel bad that no one seems to be guiding him, and if they are, it’s just not coming across.

  • Tess

    It’s hard enough living with it, but living with it AND being in the spotlight…I can’t even imagine.

    But the “living with it” in the spotlight is a choice James made…and he made the choice to highlight it. (My nephew, who has aspergers, would no sooner choose to spotlight himself then fly to the moon without the aid of a rocket ship). And because he often has no filter (which he is aware of – he is smarter than a whip (many with aspergers are)) he tends to want to keep a pretty low profile in public settings.

    James, isn’t a child…he knows the challenges he faces…and if he isn’t aware of the social ramifications of his condition…then someone hasn’t done a good job “treating” him. That’s why I don’t think he should be given a pass in all social situations. (I have spent a lifetime being around family who have “conditions” from physical disabilities to social and mental challenges….and not one of them have ever used them as an excuse for anything…).

  • alison8701

    I feel like James only listens to people who agree with him. And there will always be someone who agrees with him, and thinks what he’s doing is the right thing, and it will affirm his behavior. Like those comments about Lady GaGa. I’m sure there are people who laugh at his comments and agree with him, so he thinks it’s OK to say. I think he listened to the select few portion of his fans who said they would love a Metal album, so he believed it was possible. But now he’s faced with reality.

  • smeggingnuts

    alison8701
    I feel like James only listens to people who agree with him.

    See James you have more incommen with Gaga than you think you do

  • J9BT

    studio57: My heart also goes out to James. Whether it is mild or not, James acts EXACTLY like a kid with Aspergers. Unless you know someone who has it, you just cannot understand how it works. My neighbor is James’ age and is an Aspy and they are two peas in a pod. They are naturally socially awkward.

    You are absolutely correct. I also have a close friend/neighbor whose son has both Asperger’s (& Tourette’s), and until he was diagnosed, those around him including his own parents felt that he was arrogant, immature, dilusional, disrespectful, etc. (the list of critical adjectives is really endless).

    It’s quite easy to feel empathy for someone who loses a limb, or is blind, because those disorders/medical conditions are clearly visible to the human eye. Asperger’s, however, is not clearly visible to the human eye and is not the easiest disorder to diagnose.

  • Trina

    Whether or not you think James’s Aspergers is mild or not the fact is he DOES have it and its something he has to deal with everyday and I believe he does need a lot of help with things. I read enough about what he was like growing up to know he overcame a lot and there was a point he could barely carry a conversation. He learned how to adjust and did a lot of growing up. Life is very different now and he’ll have a whole other set of challenges to deal with. Not excusing him for the mistakes and stupid things he’s said. IF hes given some help I think he’ll learn to deal better, but he has to be told when he done or said something wrong. Recently I saw an article about Autism and the person who wrote it pointed out little things did during Idol that were obvious signs of Aspergers. Little things that he eventually stopped doing, probably because he was helped.

    The finale red carpet, his demeanor seemed different and he seemed more rushed and guarded with the couple of interviews I saw, and this was right after his comments about Gaga circulated. I wouldn’t be shocked if someone did in fact give him a bit of a smackdown.

  • koshka

    Wasn’t the information on their web site names being linked to Universal Music a tip off that both Haley and James are being signed?

    I’m not convinced of this. It’s not uncommon (and I’ve literally done this personally) to secure URLs should they be needed in the future so no one else can snatch them up. Afterall.. this is how we ended up with Adamofficial.com rather than adamlambertofficial.com. Someone had already registered for the URL with his first and last name.

    They probably told him he couldn’t make a metal album, if he wanted to get signed.

    Which is why he should be getting ahold of Gokey. ;)

  • Mel1

    Which is why he should be getting ahold of Gokey.

    He’ll end up more confused. (You know how Gokey goes round and round on a topic, and you wonder what the heck he’s talking about.)

  • sallysimmons

    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over Twitter where everyone could read. Has there ever been a more self-important Idol contestant than this guy?

  • desiree_chick

    I can’t wait to read about this at Vote For The Worst. They will have a field day about all of this, LOL.

  • sonyab

    Awww they bonded. :) Do I smell a bromance brewing? ROFL! I’ll call them Durbert! :) (Durbin and Lambert)

  • musicality

    After watching those videos of him at Lenox Square with the top 3 and seeing him those last few weeks on Idol I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would sign Durbin. There are so many talented singers out there waiting for a break why waste your money on this guy? In the context of the show he may have been mildly entertaining (when surrounded by semi talented though nothing outstanding talent) though he was constantly off key. But outside the show he comes off as horribly karoke, clownish, obnoxious and one step away from singing YMCA.

    I follow all the Idols who are on twitter from every season except him. I did at first but got sick of him saying how great he was. So tell me what is everyone talking about when he said something about him being a “happy man”? Was that a different tweet?

  • Chicagolaw

    Well, Adam is in Miami right now, I think. And he may not even be heading back to LA anytime soon. He seems to be in travel mode for album two right now.

    Adam would be a good person to talk to—he understands radio really well. He did that great in-depth interview with Lyndsey Parker (and also that one with the “colorful” rocker dude in NZ) where he talked a lot about walking the line between being true to yourself and being commercial enough to have longevity.

  • lucy

    Which is why he should be getting ahold of Gokey.

    Because James should actually try to morph into a country singer?! heh.

  • Kirkee

    I seriously doubt he was just sitting around and suddenly realized he better start drumming up some publicity stunt because the harsh reality of losing buzz once Idol is over hit him.

    Oh I don’t know. There has been zero buzz about Durbin since the show ended. And a ton of the press Durbin received while on the show centered around Lambert including their so called “feud” that I don’t think anyone really cared about except James. Re-inventing something that “ended” weeks ago is his most recent Lambert connection and might get him some press.

    Then again those Moscow vids were pretty cool. Maybe James realizes what a douche he’s been. I particularly enjoyed Adam singing WLL. It was amazing and on key. Maybe James took notes? LOL.

  • Montavilla

    Well, that’s assuming that James is lying and he really doesn’t want any advice, it’s all a setup by Fuller to smooth over Durbin’s public image.

    Not so sure that’s the case here. I really don’t think James is that devious.

    IA. I think James is probably having to deal with the business end of Idol right now. The timing points to that. In 2009, Adam, Kris, and Allison’s deals were announced early in June. Danny was signed later — and since he “went country” it seems obvious that there was a lot of negotiating and soul-searching going on.

    There’s been a lot of eye-rolling at James’s claims that he’s going to bring metal back. Did anyone really believe UMG would write him a blank check to do that? So, probably James is having to confront the real choice of either pursuing his mission or selling out for the surer chance at financial success.

    No one but a former Idol is going to understand what he’s going through. It makes sense that he would reach out to Adam. Whether or not you like Adam’s music. Whether or not you think he’s betrayed his fans. At this point in time, Adam’s looking pretty darn good from a business/artistic standpoint. Maybe he didn’t sell as well as others, but he’s getting that second album made, all indications are that it will be released, and he just played a big ol’ concert in Russia.

    Plus, James has actually met Adam.

    So, the only reason not to reach out was because of the “feud,” which, as has been noted, was over two weeks ago.

    I hope for James’s sake, that they do get together. I think James could really use some advice. I don’t see any downside for the meeting on Adam’s end — other than losing an hour or two of his time.

  • EmyR

    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over Twitter where everyone could read. Has there ever been a more self-important Idol contestant than this guy?

    If James really wanted to just get together for lunch and not have anything on twitter, he should have perhaps not asked about it on twitter where everyone could read.

  • miniglik

    (I have spent a lifetime being around family who have “conditions” from physical disabilities to social and mental challenges….and not one of them have ever used them as an excuse for anything…).

    Has James used them as an excuse? He’s stated his disorders and talked about them when asked, but I’ve never seen him excuse his less socially acceptable behavior by bringing up either one.

    However, for those of us armchair quarterbacking his behavior, it would be ridiculous to discuss his awkward or socially unacceptable behavior without referencing that he does, in fact, have disorders which can make him awkward and less able to navigate socially acceptable behavior. (Likewise about his impulse control.) To use one of my favorite analogies: it’d be like discussing how someone keeps running into the furniture without being allowed to discuss that they had poor eyesight.

    I don’t feel bad for him though. Sure, he has and has had a lot of obstacles to overcome, and he’s going to make a lot of mistakes. (Unspoken, unwritten rules will always be learned the hard way.) But so what if he sends Adam Lambert awkward tweets or gives an unfiltered interview or has to figure out the music industry the hard way? He’s only 22 and has at least some opportunities, and he’s certainly better off than before he went on the show.

  • Pixie Baker

    sallysimmons says:
    06/06/2011 at 10:42 am
    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over Twitter where everyone could read.

    Not that Adam needs defending but perhaps he was making it clear to James that talking to him may have been viewed negatively by Idol people who are advising him. Adam always seems to be grateful for the Idol people…maybe he was backing out politely…showing respect to them.
    Speaking from personal experience, I have a handicapped son who is navigating so well in this world but needs a lot of help in guiding him….lots of help. I hope James has or gets the help he needs to navigate this Idol process.

  • weareallinnocent

    LOL @ Adam’s thinly-veiled snark. Love him. Never change, Adam, never change!

    Too bad James didn’t get it though….

  • Dera

    Why doesn’t 19M give him the support he (JD) needs? They made quiet a lot of money (in millions) by keeping him on the show giving him non-constructive advices week after week. Adam gave him constructive advices and his fans and himself started bashing Adam. Although Adam wasn’t the only one as most of know it. JD said it over and over on his post finale interviews that he came 4th and Daughtry was 4th place finalist. He should tweet to Daughtry not Adam. Adam as nice a person as he is might meet with him but I wish he wouldn’t.

  • Kirkee

    Has James used them as an excuse? He’s stated his disorders and talked about them when asked, but I’ve never seen him excuse his less socially acceptable behavior by bringing up either one.

    I’ve never seen Durbin use them as an excuse. Only his fans. ;)

  • Tess

    I think it is awkward that James has dragged someone else into his theatrics via a very social media device. Adam was doomed whether he responded or not…and the sad thing is that Adam will get the brunt of the criticism if the meeting never takes place…even though he wasn’t remotely responsible for the whole debacle in the first place. Why can’t peeps just put the “blame” squarely where it lies rather than making someone else the villain. James was wrong…he should never have put any of this on twitter to begin with. The guy has overstepped way to many boundaries in a few short months…and there is no excuse for it.

  • lucy

    Why doesn’t 19M give him the support he (JD) needs? They made quiet a lot of money (in millions) by keeping him on the show giving him non-constructive advices week after week.

    Because they don’t give anybody the support they need? …. 19 is in business. They’re in *show* business. Hence, they practice the ethics of greed, pretty much, I expect. … If you want to get involved with those people and you are a newbie or have vulnerabilities of various kinds (and don’t we all), I think you’d better bring your own peeps.

  • aek

    James acts EXACTLY like a kid with Aspergers

    I have taught three kids with Aspergers, and James acts nothing like them. If he has Aspergers, it’s really, really mild compared to the people I know with this condition. Seriously.

    I have no doubt that he was diagnosed witih it, but the problem is that it is very over diagnosed these days. Four years ago I took a graduate course on “exceptional children” and the professor said as much. She said alot of people who had kids that were not doing well in school and were having problems socially would take their kids to the right doctor and get them diagnosed with Aspergers. This would allow them to have special help and services in school.

    I understand that Autism is a spectrum. I have an almost three year old nephew with real Autism and THAT is some serioius stuff.

    Aspergers must be tricky to diagnose. I mean where do you draw the line. But the Aspergers kids that I know seem to struggle much more socially than James. In fact, James seemd less awkward than Jacob to me. Some people are just socially awkward.

    Btw I have grown to like James just fine, and I hope he has some success. I remember a few years back everyone expected Danny to crash and burn careerwise and emotionally. Today he’s doing just fine. Things always get blown out of proportion in idol land.

  • miniglik

    I’ve never seen Durbin use them as an excuse. Only his fans.

    People like me who have children/students/spouses/etc (or ourselves) who face intolerance every day due to the majority of society judging a person’s worth on how well they obey social rules are often discussing these things not to excuse James, but to give context to autistic (or TS) behavior because we live it; and seeing someone routinely lambasted for behavior that is not unkind, cruel, or unethical, but is simply awkward, might hit us in a personal way.

  • iluvai

    I think just because you can “tweet” someone, doesn’t mean that you should. Twitter is such a strange beast.

  • Buffynut

    sallysimmons says:

    06/06/2011 at 10:42 am

    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over Twitter where everyone could read. Has there ever been a more self-important Idol contestant than this guy?

    James put it on twitter. He had plenty of channels to go through, privately, to contact Adam. 19 being the most obvious. Or mutual mentors and friends like Michael Orland or Debra Byrd could have worked. How anyone could blame Adam for replying is beyond me.

    ETA: Not to mention (OK I will) that Adam is pretty darn busy right now working on his own album.

  • koshka

    I feel like James only listens to people who agree with him.

    That was always my take on those comments (what were they?) about Adam taking it to the next level. It was as though he just got done getting a pep talk from his peeps. I can just envision his buddies supporting him by talking a little trash. We all do this. Whether it is about a best friends newly ex-boyfriend or that pain in the ass boss. I can see Durbin repeating what was said during a buddy bullshit session, not having the impulse control to dial back what he might be thinking.

    Because James should actually try to morph into a country singer?! heh.

    Gokey is the master of melting his passion for soulful latin music with Country. ;)

  • weareallinnocent

    someone routinely lambasted for behavior that is not unkind, cruel, or unethical, but is simply awkward

    Well, I suppose there are varying definitions and degrees of unkind and cruel, but JD has said some pretty unkind things about Adam and others…. And then, just reading those tweets of his dispersed throughout and after this exchange on his tweet feed tell me a lot about his view/phobia of Adam’s sexuality and being possibly associated with him….

    So, I’m not giving him a full pass. But, I do feel for you and your struggles. I’m just not sure jumping to the defense of Durbin without question necessarily serves the cause. YMMV, and FWIW, I do have a nephew squarely on the spectrum….

  • mmb

    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over Twitter where everyone could read. Has there ever been a more self-important Idol contestant than this guy?

    When James tweeted Adam that he could ” really use… Some one on one advice”, seems to me he was, in fact, asking for advice and not just lunch…..

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Yep. Deleting overly-defensive posts.

    Don’t attack or criticize fellow posters, please.

  • Kirkee

    Ah, you must mean people like me who have children/students/spouses/etc (or ourselves) who face intolerance every day due to the majority of society judging a person’s worth on how well they obey social rules.

    No. I don’t think that all the fans using it as an excuse all have children/students/spouses with like conditions. Only some I would think. Others might find it an easy way to forgive/excuse Durbin’s questionable behavior.

  • Studio57

    I have taught three kids with Aspergers, and James acts nothing like them. If he has Aspergers, it’s really, really mild compared to the people I know with this condition. Seriously

    And as I said before- I know someone who has it and James acts exactly like him, and his case is not at all mild ( my neighbor’s, I mean). I agree- it is a spectrum and not all cases are alike, which is true for ALL diseases of the brain. My own son has a brain disease and he is nothing like any other kid I have read or seen with the same condition. I also agree that it could be overdiagnosed because I believe that we don’t know everything that’s out there right now. My son’s doctors ( neurologists, sleep specialists, and psychiatrists) could not even agree on what he had and was stuck with a diagnosis that was so broad it was laughable. Comorbidity like James’ Tourettes could also change the scheme of things.

  • lucy

    Gokey is the master of melting his passion for soulful latin music with Country. ;)

    Ah, I see! … Like a Wisconsin melted-cheese sandwich, kinda ….lol

  • J9BT

    Well, I suppose there are varying definitions and degrees of unkind and cruel, but JD has said some pretty unkind things about Adam and others…. And then, just reading those tweets of his dispersed throughout and after this exchange on his tweet feed tell me a lot about his view/phobia of Adam’s sexuality and being possibly associated with him….

    I must have missed the unkind remarks that James made about Adam. I also missed comments he made about a phobia of Adam’s sexuality.

    I do not see James’ tweets as a stunt for publicity, desperate or any of the like. I think he truly would like some advice from Adam. Like others, I think there are specific discussions ongoing about his potential album & the direction it should take, and Adam is certainly someone who could offer James advice.

  • miniglik

    I don’t think James is perfect and wonderful. However, I do think there has been quite a lot of intolerance directed at him from his very first bit of screentime and I think discussing that intolerance is worthwhile, because it IS a societal problem.

    Well, I suppose there are varying definitions and degrees of unkind and cruel, but JD has said some pretty unkind things about Adam and others

    You really thought that was unkind? I thought it was certainly no worse than Adam’s opinion. It was ill-advised much more than unkind. But it certainly wasn’t levels of unkind that deserve abuse. (Not that you were being abusive, but I think we can all agree that James has become an object of hate and ridicule in certain corners.)

  • luvmy5guys

    I have taught three kids with Aspergers, and James acts nothing like them. If he has Aspergers, it’s really, really mild compared to the people I know with this condition. Seriously

    I have two boys with Aspergers.. both diagnosed after extensive testing.. the older of the two was originally diagnosed with classic Autism and the diagnosis was revised when he was 8 because of his functioning level. My younger one is only6 and he was just diagnosed earlier this year. I was surprised because he didnt behave like his older brother.. My point being that autism is a large spectrum disorders with Aspergers being on the highest functioning of the spectrum.. I know from personal experience that all Aspergers doesnt present itself in the same way so that fact that three children dont appear to have the same social awkardness as James means nothing..

    I also love Adam dearly and have a soft spot for James.. I think the tweet was most likely what it appeard to be.. his rather awkward attempt to make nice because he needed didnt like the “bad blood” and an honest ask for help. It make sense since Adam has a pretty successful career and per what was written Adam and he talked some when Adam was on Idol. Adam is normally a very kind person so I am hoping he will accept the olive branch at face value and get together and help the kid with some advice.

  • Mel1

    sallysimmons says:

    Good grief Lambert. The guy asked you out for lunch not for advice over twitter where everyone could read. Has there ever been a more self-important idol contestant than this guy?

    Just like some posters mentioned, Adam is the one getting the bad rap as the recipient of James’ tweet, not James who initiated it.

  • ross

    “Nice snark?” Can’t say I’ve ever heard that one.

    Sure, one can be mean about it, and Adam wasn’t.

    Was he polite, though? If you want to decline an invitation, you decline. If you want to accept, you accept. That’s being polite. Instead:

    LOL @ Adam’s thinly-veiled snark. Love him. Never change, Adam, never change!

    Too bad James didn’t get it though….

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled “f. you.” Which is not my idea of nice, I guess.

    I think it’s irrelevant whether James “deserved” it, or not. When you’re petty or rude it just doesn’t make you look great. It’s just better to take the high road if you can. YMMV

  • koshka

    Comorbidity like James’ Tourettes could also change the scheme of things.

    Sooooo true. My friend’s 19 year old son has symptoms of Aspergers and Tourettes and the drs/psychiatrists want to change the diagnosis every 6 months. His mom has given up and is just looking at it as a (good) excuse the keep trying new treatments, because most are not working.

    Ah, I see! … Like a Wisconsin melted-cheese sandwich, kinda ….lol

    LMFAO

    As far as I am concerned. James is a grown man with a condition, but is also responsible for what he says. If he wants a career in music, he need to find someone to shadow him. I can look pass all the things that have gone back and forth between him and Adam, but I have a harder time with what he said about Gaga. To me that was insanely not a smart move. I doubt she cares. If this is how he behaves (intentionally or not) when he is meets up with other artists and celebs, who is going to stand in his corner and speak up for him? James’s continuing the conversation when it had been dropped from the news cycle shows me that he isn’t getting it.

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    I think what James says is genuine. He has a family to support and is really in need of a deal. Best luck to his effort.

    First of all, couldn’t Durbin’s girlfriend get a job? She is just as much responsible for providing income for the family as he is. Why does the man have to be the main bread-winner?

    Now that I have that off my chest, LOL :) I think James was sincere in his tweet to Adam. I think someone did show James Adam’s Moscow videos, probably someone from UMG or 19 and said “see you can still do rock music even if your album is more pop.” Adam’s concerts have a rock edge to them. I recall a recent interview where Tedder said Adam was “a rock dude at heart.”

    I think Adam is smart enough to be aware that James has some social awkwardness. I also think Adam has a soft spot for people who have a hard time fitting into mainstream society. Adam has had his own struggles with that.

    I do hope they meet up because I do think Adam could be a good mentor to James. By the way, I didn’t find Adam’s responses snarky. Adam uses twitter all of the time. Perhaps he thought having a discussion on twitter about the album process and compromises one has to make might be interesting for fans?

  • Q3

    I really doubt that this was a PR stunt invented by Fuller or anyone else including James Durbin.

    At the beginning of Idol, I thought JD had name-checked Adam as a way of drawing attention on himself and getting press. As the season when on, it became more apparent that it was not calculated or planned.

    If JD was trying to get press now, he would have gotten a ton more by extending the feud/rock credibility story.

    I honestly believe that JD was trying to get Adam to engage with him and give him some advise. Doing it on Twitter was probably not the best approach — perhaps calling Adam’s management would have been better.

    For Adam, I give him credit for responding and basically being nice to James — considering what James had said about Adam in some recent interviews, I hope he does give James some advice. Like when not to use Twitter — which I believe was the message Adam was trying to send James last night.

  • koshka

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled f-you.

    I think it’s irrelevant whether James “deserved” it, or not – there are always people who will look at a response like Adam’s and think it’s petty and rude. It’s just better to take the high road if you can. YMMV

    I saw the whole exchange in the lines of Adam saying… “WTF is this all about? You’re kidding right?” and “OK, I’ll play along and see where you are taking this.” I find what he wrote more guarded than snark, I guess.

  • koshka

    Like when not to use Twitter — which I believe was the message Adam was trying to send James last night.

    Yes.. this is what I mean more than what I wrote above. Only James doesn’t deal with subtlety at all.

  • weareallinnocent

    I’ve noticed in these conversations that everyone has a nephew or a neighbor (or they once taught someone!) on the spectrum. Often as a precursor to abusive and intolerant language directed at him. Not doubting that’s true, but it is turning a little bit into the new “I have a black friend, so I’m not racist.”

    Wow.

    There are so many things to say to this, but I’m choosing the high road…. I note it only because you quote me before this response.

  • smeggingnuts

    This whole thing is like a public wedding proposal. The askee is always forced into a corner and if they don’t give the answer the asker (lol) wants they end up being the bad guy.

  • weareallinnocent

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled “f. you.”

    But, with a smile… ;-) Seriously, I would agree with you in most instances, but fwiw, I interpreted the snark here (based on nothing but projection most likely) to be aimed in response to the hilarity of James beginning such a discussion on twitter, rather than at James or his request him/itself.

  • miniglik

    I saw the whole exchange in the lines of Adam saying… “WTF is this all about? You’re kidding right?” and “OK, I’ll play along and see where you are taking this.” I find what he wrote more guarded than snark, I guess.

    I think Adam snarked once, then realized James was totally in earnest and lost the snark. Text communication being what it is, I thought it was a pretty tame conversation.

  • CindyM

    I didn’t see snark in Adams response. Guess its all in your perception. Who knows, maybe they’re texting each other as we speak. Personally, if I were Adam, I’d rather the convo be public, words and intent get misrepresented all the time.

  • miniglik

    weareallinnocent

    Wow.

    There are so many things to say to this, but I’m choosing the high road…. I note it only because you quote me before this response.

    I deleted it because I realized it could look aimed at you instead of just a jumping off point (i.e., my general issue with “I have a nephew/neighbor who is autistic” used as a jumping off point for abuse, although not generally at mj’s). Apologies from me, I don’t think you were in the least abusive, and didn’t want to convey that.

  • Q3

    I think Adam is smart enough to be aware that James has some social awkwardness. I also think Adam has a soft spot for people who have a hard time fitting into mainstream society. Adam has had his only struggles with that.

    ITA —

    Adam was nice to James on Idol and he give lots of people advice, why not James?

    I really doubt that anyone (including James) needed to look at Adam’s Moscow performance to release that pop-rock exists. James has many other models for pop-rock out there — like Muse or U2. And he specifically says that he is interested in doing music like Hardcore Superstar — which has little or nothing to do with pop at all. (Also probably not a commercially viable direction.)

    Adam, and his band, have a rock edge and they cover a couple metal classics but there is a big difference between what Adam is doing and Glam Metal.

    I think James reached out to Adam because Adam did a great job building relationships with 19 and with his label, and has been successful. And James does not know anyone else who has been through the Idol/19 process.

  • yellin

    I would never “use Aspergers as an excuse” especially since my 10 year old son has it, and if I hear THAT from one more person concerning my own child, that has no CLUE what aspergers is I am going to snap. If you do not live with someone that has it, or work closely with someone on a daily basis, or are REALLY good friends with someone who has it, it is hard to understand. My son’s brain is wired so that when he goes to ride a bike, his feet automatically push OUTWARD instead of FORWARD. We have been trying to teach him since he was four years old..for SIX YEARS, and he has yet to get it. He gets so frustrated, angry, embarrassed and you have to have the patience of a saint. We will not give up though.

    So it isn’t an “excuse.” That would be like saying “oh you don’t have a right arm by you need to figure out how to write with it anyway!!” It is just a FACT. It is the way his brain is wired. They act before they think a lot of times and can be almost impossible to see things from someone else’s point of view. He obviously has worked very hard on these things since he was younger, and he sounds IDENTICAL to my son in his younger days. Loved theater but if something doesn’t go just right or the way you expect, throwing a fit, being very musical/artistic, being a social outcast, being bullied, very emotional etc. Those you are closest to you are VERY close to, others have to REALLY prove themselves before you “let them in.” Just watched a great interview with Gaga on 60 minutes where she said the one thing she is to her fans is HONEST, sometimes blatantly so, whether they agree or not. Isn’t that what James was when he said he didn’t feel comfortable with her touching him? I don’t get the big deal there either. So I for one make NO excuses for James, I just want others to understand where it could be coming from, that is all.

  • annie12120

    How hilarious… Adam’s first “advice to James” – Let’s play a game – “Watch how easy “we” can send the twitterverse and OTT/BSC fans into tizzydom and see who wins!” ;)
    Wouldn’t it be fabulous to sit down to lunch with those two? Two very nice guys trying to survive post Idol.

    edited to change the I into we as James has BSC fans too

  • EmyR

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled “f. you.” Which is not my idea of nice, I guess.

    Lol I just cannot get how anyone could see that response as a “f. you” in any way. Some people are saying it might have been slightly sarcastic, but you seem to think it was downright mean spirited and hateful. Did I miss a part where he called him a derogatory name or something?

    To me, it was somewhat ridiculous to reach out via twitter this way, and Adam’s response was kind of a “Lol okay.” It seems to be that some are reading into it a little more than it should be. It wasn’t petty or rude, that’s for sure, which would have been more him ignoring him, saying some negative, or declining outright.

    I guess it’s all perception, but I still don’t understand how anyone could go from a smilely face to “f. you.”

  • Mel1

    ross says:

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled “f. you.” Which is not my idea of nice, I guess.

    I think it’s irrelevant whether James “deserved” it, or not. When you’re petty or rude it just doesn’t make you look great. It’s just better to take the high road if you can. YMMV

    Yes, definitely YMMV, because I never saw Adam’s response as a thinly-veiled “f-you”. More like WTF is this is tweet from James? I also did not find Adam’s responses as petty and rude. He is a very sweet and caring person. So many people have said that Adam is the person they go to for a listening ear. Remember the “camp counselor” from S8?

  • miniglik

    I guess it’s all perception, but I still don’t understand how anyone could go from a smilely face to “f. you.”

    It was even a winky smiley! Straight smilies can be snark, but winky ones are “hey, I mean no harm!” (Can’t believe I’m discussing smilies. ;) )

    This is what I think happened:
    Adam was really nice to James when they met. Both of them got sick of being asked about each other. Adam gives mild criticism of James when asked. After elimination, James got read the comments from Adam in a way that put him on the defensive, and he had a couple of days where he made mildly snippy comments. Adam sort of apologized in a twitter party. Cut to a few weeks later and James realizes that Adam really was very nice to him and James really does want some advice, so on an impulse he sends that tweet. Adam is surprised by it, responds with a bit of a facetious tweet subtley remarking on the absurdity of twitter conversations, realizes James is totally earnest, and decides to be nice. The end.

  • Chicagolaw

    I didn’t really read any snark into Adam’s response. It reads a little differently when you look at their responses on the twitter timeline.

    What I am getting (since he was voted off, at least), is that while James did EXTREMELY well socially, in the AI situation, he was probably helped/guided/edited more than anyone knew. Nobody is helping him/editing him now, and the social awkwardness of his Aspergers is showing. Just take a look at his twitter (and I’m not talking about last night). On the show, I could not really relate to him as someone with high functioning autism. He seemed SO much more adjusted than anyone I knew with this disability (and, true, the only people I know with Aspergers are 10 and 14yrs old, so there’s that). Heck, I thought he handled things a lot better than Lauren. Now, I am seeing the reality of James. I feel for him much more now. He is in a real state of flux, I’m sure. I hope that somebody will step-up and give him real guidance and advise and support.

  • doggiedr

    I don’t think James is perfect and wonderful. However, I do think there has been quite a lot of intolerance directed at him from his very first bit of screentime and I think discussing that intolerance is worthwhile, because it IS a societal problem.

    Or it could simply be that I just don’t like him.

    I don’t really much care for “society” labeling me as intolerant in an attempt to shame me into liking him or even being quiet about my dislike.
    I am allowed to simply dislike him.

  • lucy

    I have two boys with Aspergers.. both diagnosed after extensive testing.. the older of the two was originally diagnosed with classic Autism and the diagnosis was revised when he was 8 because of his functioning level. My younger one is only6 and he was just diagnosed earlier this year. I was surprised because he didnt behave like his older brother.. My point being that autism is a large spectrum disorders with Aspergers being on the highest functioning of the spectrum.. I know from personal experience that all Aspergers doesnt present itself in the same way so that fact that three children dont appear to have the same social awkardness as James means nothing..

    So much so that some of the top medical researchers in the field now doubt that “it” is, in any way, a single condition.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    after this exchange on his tweet feed tell me a lot about his view/phobia of Adam’s sexuality and being possibly associated with him….

    I can’t find any comment about this in any of James’ tweets. Did this happen in the recent set of tweets? Would you please post a link?

    Just watched a great interview with Gaga on 60 minutes where she said the one thing she is to her fans is HONEST, sometimes blatantly so, whether they agree or not. Isn’t that what James was when he said he didn’t feel comfortable with her touching him? I don’t get the big deal there either.

    I don’t have a problem with James talking about that interaction with Gaga, but I do think that it was very conceited, unwise and almost delusional for him to compare Gaga’s onstage theatrics unfavorably with his own in this interview.

    I know that Gaga could care less what James Durbin thinks of her, so these kind of public comments are only going to hurt James.

  • Indigobunting

    Much ado about nothing, IMO.

    James reached out, Adam responded nicely and that was that.

  • Mel1

    I don’t find a snarky response like that to be anything other than a thinly-veiled “f. you.” Which is not my idea of nice, I guess.

    I wanted to add that after Adam tweeted an apology and saying his intent wasn’t to hurt anyone (James), it is highly unlikely he was remotely responding a f-you to James.

  • dana80

    I think that these 7 pages long dissection of a simple twitter conversation show that twitter is, in fact, the devil :)

  • aek

    I have two boys with Aspergers.. both diagnosed after extensive testing.. the older of the two was originally diagnosed with classic Autism and the diagnosis was revised when he was 8 because of his functioning level.

    I am very intrigued by this. I sincerely hope this is possible for my nephew. He was diagnosed with moderate autism, but at 3 is barely talking and you can’t get his attention no matter how hard you try. He was only diagnosed in April, but I’ve known for a year. I just couldn’t get my brother to listen.

    My point being that autism is a large spectrum disorders with Aspergers being on the highest functioning of the spectrum.. I know from personal experience that all Aspergers doesnt present itself in the same way so that fact that three children dont appear to have the same social awkardness as James means nothing..

    I get what you are saying, and I know the saying that “if you’ve seen one person with Autism, you’ve seen exactly one person with Autism.” I understand that it manifests itself in different ways.

    But what I was getting at is that because Aspergers is the mildest form of Autism, it becomes an issue of where do you draw the line. Some doctors are more likely to give this diagnosis than others. The kids that I know with Aspergers, well, if you are around them for about five minutes, there is no question that there are some major problems. They really are just that “odd,” for lack of a better word. I have no doubt that James was diagnosed with Aspergers and is being sincere about that. I guess I am a bit wary about the medicalization of every “different” or “awkward” personality.

    I do agree with the person who said that the combination of the Tourettes could change things a bit. I think that James’s Tourettes is what got him into the doctor’s office to begin with. He obviously has problems there.

    I am not trying to tick anyone off. This is just my opinion on James. I don’t know him personally so maybe in knowing him I would see things that aren’t overly apparent on an edited tv show.

  • lucy

    I think that these 7 pages long dissection of a simple twitter conversation show that twitter is, in fact, the devil :)

    As if more proof were needed! heh

  • aek

    Much ado about nothing, IMO.

    James reached out, Adam responded nicely and that was that.

    I agree, indigo. I think James reached out. I think Adam really doesn’t want to make the commitment to get together, not because he hates James, but maybe he’s busy or whatever. I think he responded politely enough. I also think sometimes we read snark into places where it’s not necessarily there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think what James says is genuine. He has a family to support and is really in need of a deal. Best luck to his effort.

    I think that James is honest, but too unfiltered in his comments and I honestly wish him well, but sorry, there’s a ton of career options between being a laid off pizza delivery guy unable to afford diapers, and a major label recording artist in being able to support a spouse and son.

    James has made $50K for the Disney Experience gig and will make at least another $50K for the tour, probably more if he gets a cut of merchanidise. That’s a nice cushion for him to help him support his family while he tries to parlay his AI exposure into some kind of career that will allow him to provide for his family even if he doesn’t get a recording contract.

    First of all, couldn’t Durbin’s girlfriend get a job? She is just as much responsible for providing income for the family as he is. Why does the man have to be the main bread-winner?

    I agree. The responsibility for the support of James’ family should not be solely his.

  • isisdagmar

    I don’t know anything about james durbin or care about him or anyone from idol except adam (and kelly and jennifer hudson, to some extent), but yeah, i agree that Adam seems like a really unusually sweet person. :) He’s a great combination of witty/snarky and sweet, which maybe be part of why i became interested in him even though i’d never watched idol–it reminds me of my friends, so it’s a personality type I like.

    I do remember when I found out about adam and started watching videos from idol and interviews to find out more, the contestants almost all seemed like nice people, but Adam just seemed unusually lovely and sweet, as well as smart and funny. He’s what I’d like in an older brother. Except that I also think he’s super attractive, which might be awkward with an older brother, lol.

  • miniglik

    am very intrigued by this. I sincerely hope this is possible for my nephew. He was diagnosed with moderate autism, but at 3 is barely talking and you can’t get his attention no matter how hard you try.

    (I hope I don’t get in trouble for going off topic, but keep up hope. It gets better. One of mine was a 3 yr old who was very similar and things are much better now. )

    I don’t know him personally so maybe in knowing him I would see things that aren’t overly apparent on an edited tv show.

    He did a lot of things that read ASD to me. I even wrote out a list, but I’m sure I didn’t get everything. I think it’s obvious that he works very, very hard at mitigating his neurological disadvantages. (Consider what an 11 yr old James was like.)

  • Jesse

    Hey MJ – You left out the most interesting part of the exchange – for me. @deesnider of Twisted Sister got into the twitter mix between Adam and James!!!

    @deesnider
    @adamlambert sings his ass off! RT @JDurbinAI10 Have I shocked any DURBINATORS with that one? lol Adam was http://tl.gd/au5trn

  • ross

    Yes, definitely YMMV, because I never saw Adam’s response as a thinly-veiled “f-you”. More like WTF is this is tweet from James? I also did not find Adam’s responses as petty and rude. He is a very sweet and caring person. So many people have said that Adam is the person they go to for a listening ear. Remember the “camp counselor” from S8?

    Adam is a nice guy, overall. I always thought so. I’m not talking about his character.

    I was originally responding to people saying he used “nice snark” and other people saying he was subtly snarky to James, who didn’t get it. I was saying that the snark came off as impolite. In my opinion, in reply to an invitation to get together you either say yes or no. Or maybe, “PM me about it.”

    I guess we disagree that it’s necessary to be sarcastic or bitchy, in that situation. I don’t think so. It’s not nice. I’m saying that’s a social mistake, and possibly bad manners – not a character flaw.

  • Dakota01

    I was originally responding to people saying he used “nice snark” and other people saying he was subtly snarky to James, who didn’t get it. I was saying that the snark came off as impolite.

    You don’t know (nor does anyone) if Adam used “nice snark” or was “subtly snarky” unless you can read his mind. LOL. Just because some people thought it might be snarky doesn’t make it so. Is it so hard to give Adam the benefit of the doubt?

  • EmyR

    II guess we disagree that it’s necessary to be sarcastic or bitchy, in that situation. I don’t think so. It’s not nice. I’m saying that’s a social mistake, and possibly bad manners – not a character flaw.

    I think the disagreement is about whether it was “bitchy” at all. Also what the definition of snark is b/c I don’t think anyone was using it to describe the tweets as so bad that a smiley somehow meant “f-you.”

  • Mel1

    ross says:

    I was saying that the snark came off as impolite. In my opinion, in reply to an invitation to get together you either say yes or no. Or maybe, “PM me about it.”

    I guess we disagree that it’s necessary to be sarcastic or bitchy, in that situation. I don’t think so. It’s not nice. I’m saying that’s a social mistake, and possibly bad manners.

    Adam has no idea what James wants to talk about. I think it behooves Adam to clear it with James and/or his own people before he commits to have a meeting with James. It’s every bit possible there could be some legal-type situation, or other type of info that Adam shouldn’t be involved.

  • miniglik

    Just because some people thought it might be snarky doesn’t make it so. Is it so hard to give Adam the benefit of the doubt?

    That’s the whole problem, in general. For both of these guys.

  • koshka

    I was saying that the snark came off as impolite. In my opinion, in reply to an invitation to get together you either say yes or no. Or maybe, “PM me about it.”

    He did say DM me. I understood this came as one of James’s first tweets. *shrug*

  • Moria Polonius

    nvm. Others have said already what I wanted to say.

  • cassie87

    I would never “use Aspergers as an excuse” especially since my 10 year old son has it, and if I hear THAT from one more person concerning my own child, that has no CLUE what aspergers is I am going to snap. If you do not live with someone that has it, or work closely with someone on a daily basis, or are REALLY good friends with someone who has it, it is hard to understand. My son’s brain is wired so that when he goes to ride a bike, his feet automatically push OUTWARD instead of FORWARD. We have been trying to teach him since he was four years old..for SIX YEARS, and he has yet to get it. He gets so frustrated, angry, embarrassed and you have to have the patience of a saint. We will not give up though.

    So it isn’t an “excuse.” That would be like saying “oh you don’t have a right arm by you need to figure out how to write with it anyway!!” It is just a FACT. It is the way his brain is wired. They act before they think a lot of times and can be almost impossible to see things from someone else’s point of view. He obviously has worked very hard on these things since he was younger, and he sounds IDENTICAL to my son in his younger days. Loved theater but if something doesn’t go just right or the way you expect, throwing a fit, being very musical/artistic, being a social outcast, being bullied, very emotional etc. Those you are closest to you are VERY close to, others have to REALLY prove themselves before you “let them in.” Just watched a great interview with Gaga on 60 minutes where she said the one thing she is to her fans is HONEST, sometimes blatantly so, whether they agree or not. Isn’t that what James was when he said he didn’t feel comfortable with her touching him? I don’t get the big deal there either. So I for one make NO excuses for James, I just want others to understand where it could be coming from, that is all.

    I agree completely. It’s not about using it as an excuse. It’s just about making people understand. You can’t just tell someone to stop being autistic. Yes, he’ll have to be more careful now, but he can’t just get over it. I’m very close to two little boys who are autistic, and it’s difficult to make other children understand, but it’s more difficult to make adults understand. I like the analogy you used with the arm. It makes sense. As a fan, I’m not using it as an excuse, but to explain. And I don’t know James, I don’t know what he’s going through. All people with this disease will be different. But you can’t expect someone with this disease to simply be able to act like someone who doesn’t have it. Sorry to go off topic.

    As for the Lady Gaga thing, did I miss what he said? Because the only thing I remember was when he said he didn’t like her touching him. Some people are like that. I see nothing wrong with that.

    Again, sorry to go off topic, I just wanted to clarify what I meant before. I don’t want to bring any more attention to the asbergers because I don’t think James wants it to be what people know him for.

  • ross

    Eh, I just don’t like seeing someone seem to beg someone else for anything, and the other person seeming to be aloof. I was sort of reading a bit of bitchiness between the lines. Maybe a better way to put it is: passive-aggressiveness.

    The guy asked him specifically to get together for lunch. So I think saying something like, “let’s do it now on twitter” was absurd. Because, no, the guy is not going to want to discuss anything having to do with career advice, publicly, with you, on twitter. He asked you to lunch. I mean, folks, would you think anyone offering to give you career advice over twitter would be appropriate? So this is why I thought it came out as a diss. Because it’s not like James was about to agree to that, and Adam knew that. Hence: Adam was pulling his chain.

    Even if there’s a smilie, it’s just kinda a snarky way to keep the other guy hanging on a string – so that he has to ask again – which he did – and something about it struck me as unkind. If it didn’t strike anyone else that way then I apologize for reading it wrong. No offense, I guess.

  • soamused

    I don’t like seeing someone beg someone else for career advice and lunch on twitter. I think Durbin has way bigger problems than Adam can help him with. There should be people in Durbin’s life stepping in to help him – he’s going to be a train wreck otherwise. He’s already starting to appear like he’s going off the tracks.

  • agathe.hb

    well, I would love to meet with Adam for lunch, I guess I will tweet him and ask….. he is obligated to grant me my request, isn’t he?

  • agathe.hb

    and I need career advice badly :(

  • lucy

    As for the Lady Gaga thing, did I miss what he said? Because the only thing I remember was when he said he didn’t like her touching him. Some people are like that. I see nothing wrong with that.

    Yeah, he did a big radio interview in which he basically said that the stuff she does on stage is not only artistically bankrupt but is a very bad example for the children who go to her shows. …

    Now, aside from wondering why the people he knows take children to Lady Gaga’s shows — and he said that someone did — this seems to me to be his opinion, which he has as much right to state as anybody else does…. Of course, whether it’s good for a newbie’s career to say such stuff at length, when you could just change the subject to yourself, is another question. More of James probably needing a better, trusted handler by his side, I suppose.

  • LongKissGoodnight

    I find it funny that through out the duration of conversation opinions shifted from “LOL Adam is sharing the snark” to “let’s give Adam the benefit of the doubt, I am sure there was no snark at all”…
    Personally I’ve always considered snark to be a positive force of nature so epp, I pretty much saw Adam’s response as being “snarky”. As it happens, I am also considering it the nicest thing he could possible have said giving the circumstances.

    I mean after being poked with questions about James for month, speaking his mind, and seeing it turning into “the feud! the feud!” by Idol-related media. I am sure Adam would like nothing more then to remove himself from the whole James Durbin situation. So he apologized and moved on.
    James? Not so much. He kinda seemed to take the hole ‘feuding” thing and run with it, to the media great amusement. And continued to drag Adam in to none-comparisons with the whole “remember how Adam Lambert turned out to bee electro-pop sheep in rock-wolf leather clothes? Well, not me! I am staying true to the crew!” The notion James liked to put out on more than one occasion.
    At which point I personally was all LOL. Whatever, dude, do your thing, you CLEARLY know better.

    And when I am assuming a reality check finally happened, there is a 180 degree turnaround from James and what should seem to be a completely out of the blue from Adam perspective “so bro, would love to MEET and pick your brain, no-bad-blood?”. As someone perceptively pointed out, kind of like getting an unwanted public marriage proposal.

    I mean… HUH?…

    What is there really to say? Besides obvious “lol maybe not, but feel free to pick my brain right now, in public, since that is the way you choose to fall on my head once again…”

    Bottom line.
    I find James to be very sympathetic, enthusiastic fellah, who not only grossly neglected doing his home work before going on the show, but also regularly missed out on all the good advise from people with better understanding of the industry he is aspiring to be part of. Never mind Adam, I am pretty sure Jimmy Iovine spent far more time trying to drive to James “metal is not mainstream” point. James considered himself a rebel. Not seeing that all his rebellion is approved and gladly paid for by the show, for the show sake, but that is NOT the way things will go once said show spits him in to the real world.
    James pretty much made his own bad, so in what universe should it be Adam’s headache to advise on solutions? Not after first attempt at mild (and as I see it, more or less spot on) criticism draw “he decided to take it to another level” reaction.

    At one point you just have to be done, and it seems like Adam (and this particular fan as well) reached that point weeeeeeeks ago. As I said at the beginning of this thread, I like James, I love Adam, if i never hear their names mentioned in one story again that would be too soon.
    LOL.

    I said my peace.

  • Chicagolaw

    The only thing I can say Ross, is that, perhaps, Adam found it a bit absurd that James was asking for a sit-down to discuss career advice over twitter. And he might have, for a moment, questioned the guy’s sincerity. However, I think as it all played out, it was pretty much a straightforward deal.

    In any event, twitter is the devil :) None of us will ever know exactly the tone behind the words.

  • mr

    Honestly, if someone’s way of asking help is to tell the other person to look him up, and publically at that, then that’s just inappropriate. I would have been reluctant to help if i were Adam, too. Don’t like to be put in a corner. If you want someone’s help, you make the effort and call him up. Especially if there’s some “bad blood” history. Simple.

  • doggiedr

    The guy asked him specifically to get together for lunch. So I think saying something like, “let’s do it now on twitter” was absurd. Because, no, the guy is not going to want to discuss anything having to do with career advice, publicly, with you, on twitter. He asked you to lunch. I mean, folks, would you think anyone offering to give you career advice over twitter would be appropriate?

    But IMO that was the point.

    Asking on Twitter was equally as inappropriate as answering on Twitter.
    And was done first.

  • agathe.hb

    lol, mr…… I agree with smegs, it’s like a public marriage proposal…. whatever your answer you want to give, you are expected to say YES!!!
    I wonder, if Adam says yes, how many more people are going to take that route?

  • Moria Polonius

    The guy asked him specifically to get together for lunch. So I think saying something like, “let’s do it now on twitter” was absurd.

    The only thing I can say Ross, is that, perhaps, Adam found it a bit absurd that James was asking for a sit-down to discuss career advice over twitter. And he might have, for a moment, questioned the guy’s sincerity. However, I think as it all played out, it was pretty much a straightforward deal.

    Pretty much this. Adam wasn’t inviting James to discuss, he was pretty much saying “Dude, this is not something you should be rant-asking me over TWITTER, because our fans will blow shit it of proportion” but trying to be subtle. Only James doesn’t do subtle so when Adam realized this, he went to straightforward yeses and nos.

    Adam’s twitter followers had a field day with James just asking for the lunch meeting, and happily proceeded asking Adam to DM them about the lunch date in order to get an advice on career, on how to get rid of a hangover, on that paper they’re about to fail, or to speak about how their Fords are awesome.

    James should have never asked via Twitter and he’s too socially awkward to understand when somebody tells him that. Well, hopefully, he too will learn soon that Twitter is the devil.

  • sr4mjc

    Great post LongKissGoodnight, I totally agree. Adam kinda was in a no win too. No response, asshole. If he says no to lunch, then he’s an asshole. I’m thinking if James didn’t want it out in public, he should have engaged 19 and not twitter. And no one even knows where Adam is right now. If it had been me, I would have said ‘Really dude?’ But I’m not as nice I guess.

  • Oksana2000

    I wonder, if Adam says yes, how many more people are going to take that route?

    Aghathe.hb, take a number. I’m right behind you in line… :-)

  • yellin

    Yeah, he did a big radio interview in which he basically said that the stuff she does on stage is not only artistically bankrupt but is a very bad example for the children who go to her shows. …

    Now, aside from wondering why the people he knows take children to Lady Gaga’s shows — and he said that someone did — this seems to me to be his opinion, which he has as much right to state as anybody else does…. Of course, whether it’s good for a newbie’s career to say such stuff at length, when you could just change the subject to yourself, is another question. More of James probably needing a better, trusted handler by his side, I suppose.

    why does it matter WHAT he said about Gaga? It was his opinion, and he isn’t a freakin’ circus animal, what the heck does he need a handler for? Oh nooo, not Gaga…don’t put HER down, it is like saying something bad about the Pres or something. Give me a break. I am sure Gaga could care less what he thinks, and maybe, just MAYBE there are LOTS of people who actually agree with what James said. I People are reading WAY too much into what is oh, SO simple and basic. Crazy…

  • agathe.hb

    yellin, I agree with you that he is free to state his opinion, absolutely.
    But…. it’s not a good career move on his part… he is too early in the game to criticize successful entertainers, it’s just a faux pas on his part….. as they say, he “hasn’t earned his dues”……

  • Montavilla

    Adam wasn’t inviting James to discuss, he was pretty much saying “Dude, this is not something you should be rant-asking me over TWITTER, because our fans will blow shit it of proportion” but trying to be subtle.

    Us? Blow things out of proportion?

    Truth be told, this is the most amusing story we’ve had in a week. I’m just munching on popcorn and enjoying the ride.

  • jpfan

    I don’t find this story very amusing though. It’s kind of sad. Probably because James seems like someone who needs alot of help. Hope he gets it. Although now he’s tweeting that Daughtry is advising him so who knows.

  • koshka

    why does it matter WHAT he said about Gaga? It was his opinion, and he isn’t a freakin’ circus animal, what the heck does he need a handler for? Oh nooo, not Gaga…don’t put HER down, it is like saying something bad about the Pres or something. Give me a break. I am sure Gaga could care less what he thinks, and maybe, just MAYBE there are LOTS of people who actually agree with what James said. I People are reading WAY too much into what is oh, SO simple and basic. Crazy…

    I heard a few weeks ago when James commented on Adam that he was hurt and a few said it was a natural human reaction. Ok, I’ll roll with that. Then he slams on Gaga, who mentored him. I understand how everyone has an opinion and he can certainly state his, I’ve got zero issue with that, I just think it is a stupid move whether he can help himself or not. If James is goes forward and makes an album he needs to work with a variety of people and get along with them. Who wants to deal with the guy that takes your advice then bashes you in an interview?

    He certainly needs a handler unless he wants to completely blow up his career. He’s been running off at the mouth. The dude has a a condition that requires some additional assistance. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I’m sure Scotty Mac had his brother along on tour to help out because he was legally blind. In this case James sort of needs an interpreter to help him with some social cues. That is far different than saying he is a circus animal or that he is not intelligent, both which are far from the truth. In fact, they all need PR training going into these interviews. You can also bet that Scotty, Lauren and Haley (if she is signed) will have someone spotting them during interviews and following them around on tour. You can bet on that.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    As for the Lady Gaga thing, did I miss what he said? Because the only thing I remember was when he said he didn’t like her touching him. Some people are like that. I see nothing wrong with that.

    He compared her onstage theatrics unfavorably to his own and said that her performance was inappropriate for children. I posted the link to the interview on the page 7. I’m reposting it here again.

    http://media.ccomrcdn.com/media/station_content/1905/JAMESIDOL_1306246074_10103.mp3

    Gaga could care less what James thinks of her, but IMO these kind of comments are not good for James.

    ETA:

    koshka says:
    06/06/2011 at 5:53 pm

    I agree with everything that you wrote in this response.

  • http://legan0.tripod.com mama2dasha

    new tweets! even though the word “advice” was in the first tweet sent, James says he wasn’t asking for advice from Adam. now that Chris has stepped up

    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    Im stoked! Daughtry is advising me. It’s cool there’s someone who went through this exact thing that I can talk to! Thanks Brother!
    15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    ChrisWozney Christopher Wozney
    @
    @JDurbinAI10 What happened with @AdamLamert? Were you asking him for advice?

    @JDurbinAI10
    James Durbin
    @ChrisWozney I was not. I was soliciting a lunch that’s all..and putting an end to a fake feud. :-)

  • TurkeyIdol

    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    Im stoked! Daughtry is advising me. It’s cool there’s someone who went through this exact thing that I can talk to! Thanks Brother!
    6 minutes ago

    ChrisWozney Christopher Wozney
    @JDurbinAI10 What happened with @AdamLamert? Were you asking him for advice?
    4 minutes ago

    in reply to ?

    @JDurbinAI10J ames Durbin
    @ChrisWozney I was not. I was soliciting a lunch that’s all..and putting an end to a fake feud.

    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    Just what he was thinking right after idol ended. And being on the road w/o your family how he copes! You can NEVER stop learning new things
    2 minute ago

    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    And he’s a Christian I hear! That’s double points in my family’s book! Good people!
    1 minute ago

    James is a asshat to the max!

  • JOJOSIE

    When I left this morning there were only a few post so was surprised at how many there are now. Just mention Adam and the hits mount up. I’m and Adam fan who likes James. On twitter I’m a rarity as Adam fans there are not always nice and have picked on James since he sang his first note. James is young with little pr experience and has neurological disorders. Should you expect less of him? Just don’t expect the same results. And what he said about GaGa. I totally agree. She’s a great musician but please put some clothes on. His opinion of her was the same as mine. I’m allowed mine but as a new artist your supposed to kiss ass and pretended to love everyone who’s trendy. I love Adam but he’s not perfect (close tho). He’s nice most of the time, but he slips once in a while.

  • JazzRocks

    I wonder how deep in the doodoo James is gonna go.

  • smeggingnuts

    ChrisWozney Christopher Wozney
    @JDurbinAI10 What happened with @AdamLamert? Were you asking him for advice?
    4 minutes ago

    in reply to ?

    @JDurbinAI10J ames Durbin
    @ChrisWozney I was not. I was soliciting a lunch that’s all..and putting an end to a fake feud.

    LOL James did you forget you said

    Some one on one advice

    hehe seems to me that all James was trying to do last night was PR like many thought lol

  • YeahRight

    He certainly needs a handler unless he wants to completely blow up his career. He’s been running off at the mouth. The dude has a a condition that requires some additional assistance. I don’t see anything wrong with that. I’m sure Scotty Mac had his brother along on tour to help out because he was legally blind. In this case James sort of needs an interpreter to help him with some social cues.

    Stefano. They are besties, after all.

  • randomjoe

    Nothing against James because I think he just kinda stuck his foot in his mouth but what is this type of comment called?

    @JDurbinAI10
    James Durbin
    @midnightminx19 my attorneys Jewish & 1 of my good friends! :-P

  • sr4mjc

    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    And he’s a Christian I hear! That’s double points in my family’s book! Good people!
    1 minute ago

    So glad Christians get double points *rolls eyes*

    And being on the road w/o your family how he copes!

    Ask someone like Sarver. Ask the single guy on the tour? Keep digging

  • sr4mjc

    @JDurbinAI10
    James Durbin
    @midnightminx19 my attorneys Jewish & 1 of my good friends!

    Does he have gay friends next? OMG, this is soo entertaining.

  • randomjoe

    Unsticking foot?

    Camocritters Wayne Price
    @
    @JDurbinAI10 what does religion have to do with being a good person.?? anyone of any religion can be either bad or good….. WORD…
    in reply to ?

    @JDurbinAI10
    James Durbin
    @Camocritters AMEN!

  • smeggingnuts

    Does he have gay friends next? OMG, this is soo entertaining.

    http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac161/silver1313/Gifs/Popcorn.gif

  • Esqt

    Oh, Lordy…I’m entertained! :)

  • tls62

    Is there no one that can tell this asshat to STFU? Seriously. Double points for Christians? His attorney is a Jew? I’m nearly to the point of feeling sorry for this ass. Nearly.

  • CindyM

    On twitter I’m a rarity as Adam fans there are not always nice and have picked on James since he sang his first note

    Methinks you’re exaggerating a bit here. There are many Adam/James fans on Twitter. Just as there are some cray James fans who give alot of shit to Adam, there are some cray Adam fans who give shit to James. No fanbase is immune to asshats.

  • Moria Polonius

    Did Daughtry tweet him or something? How is he advising James, does anyone know? Judging from the fact that James is still making a fool of himself, Daughtry didn’t advise on the most burning concern, which is tweeting.

    OMG, I wish I could use a popcorn icon or something.

  • Tess

    Wow…I’ve so missed Gokey with his foot and mouth disease before the season 8 tour….but hell, James is taking the cake for the absolute most entertaining. Gotta load up on popcorn to keep me going for 12 weeks.

    ETA…oh MJ…doesn’t this thread deserve to be moved back to the top of the heap. This is really way too much damn fun.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Daughtry isn’t putting his “advice” or personal business all out in the twitter sphere. That’s some advice for Durbin to take.

  • isisdagmar

    dude, this guy seems like an asshole. Christians get extra points and he has a Jewish lawyer (wow, he’s like super progressive or something, I bet he’d even deign to talk to Jews like my dad because he’s so cool like that)? Yeah…I know some people with autism, and they’re awkward sometimes and sometimes overly emotional, but they’re nice people. A jerk’s just a jerk, which is what he seems to be.

    Also, it’s fine to dislike lady gaga’s style, but criticizing her for wearing skimpy clothing or being sexy onstage while writing and singing songs about whores (as i just found out this guy did) is pretty hypocritical/asshattish.

  • miniglik

    So awkward.

    wow, he’s like super progressive or something, I bet he’d even deign to talk to Jews like my dad because he’s so cool like that

    He didn’t use that to mitigate bashing Jews. He’s just incapable of keeping his foot out of his mouth.

  • ross

    Okay, never mind. Please ignore everything I said earlier. I take it all back. lol

  • LovelyLady

    I’m so glad I don’t follow durbin. He would drive me crazy. Awkward, immature, naive and over indulgent /simon.

  • soverymel

    Yikes, James.

    Ummm I might be regretting giving him the benefit of the doubt last night.

  • Buffynut

    Wow, someone from Idol or 19 please take James’ Twitter away, now!!

  • sagi

    I wish word press had a popcorn eating icon like this http://photobucket.com/images/eating%20popcorn%20smiley/ because if a thread ever needed one it is this one! :D

  • Dakota01

    OMG, what a total asshat! I don’t give a hoot what his disabilities are. He’s a total douche. He thinks he deserves points because he has a Jewish lawyer? Give me a freakin’ break. I can’t even articulate how infuriated I am. What a jerk!!! Where’s 19? They need to step in and make him shut down his twitter.

    Good luck to Daughtry if he is in fact “advising” this asshole. He’s going to have his hands full.

  • Kirkee

    Okay, never mind. Please ignore everything I said earlier. I take it all back. lol

    Ross your post made my night. Why in the world is no one telling this dude to shut it?

  • ross

    Ross your post made my night.

    LOL. At least sometimes, I know when I’m wrong. Very wrong, in this case!

  • tls62

    Where’s 19?

    Clearly they don’t give a shit about James. Lol.

  • Buffynut

    Does anyone follow Chris D? Someone should suggest his first advise for James is, “James, put down the phone.”

  • LongKissGoodnight

    I think I just might choke on proverbial popcorn reading this tread. %)

  • isisdagmar

    Ross your post made my night.

    LOL. At least sometimes, I know when I’m wrong. Very wrong, in this case!

    aw, that’s pretty admirable, actually. :)

  • Desdemona

    Damn! I was hoping to never here about James Durbin again.

    Dang! Poor James. I always pick the ones that don’t get much love on this blog.I am crazy about James’ voice – my favorite! Hope he gets signed – will definitely buy his album. Scotty’s -maybe. Haley’s – nah.

  • smeggingnuts

    Looks like James girl friend?? Heidi took him off twitter lol

    JDurbinAI10
    Hi! This is Heidi.. I wanted to thank each and every single one of James’ fans out there who voted for James and… http://fb.me/13PhQDG3W

    oh well putting popcorn away

  • sagi

    I can’t decide if James is a Peter or a Judas. Or playing multiple roles! First he publicly asks Adam to get together in LA for lunch because he could use his advice. Then he “betrays” him and decides he would rather have Daughtry’s advice. Then he “denies” he ever even asked Adam for advice? #smh #rollingmyeyes #putsfaceinpalm

  • Marie23

    Now this is just totally hilarious. As far as Durbin go, I’m pretty indifferent. First I really didn’t like him during hollywood week because I thought that his voice was pretty bad as well as his attitude, but ended up liking him for the first few weeks as he seemed to have gotten better, but ended up being neither here nor there.

    But it’s just so funny, as people were defending him last night, have completely turned around. Didn’t think that anything was so bad last night, other then James trying to calm down his fans, for talking to Adam.

    But now his foot really seems to be firmly planted in his mouth right now, I feel wrong, but this is just too funny…

  • songsungblue

    Oh sweet baby jesus. James is all, he has the Church Approval Stamp on him! Yay! And this is the Christian who lives with the mother of his child that he hasn’t gotten around to marrying yet? LOL.

    But I’m glad to know that Christians get double points! No wonder I keep losing on Words With Friends. I’m Jewish ;)

  • lovingadam

    poor james, he needs help

  • Montavilla

    Okay, so is that one Jewish friend Casey Abrams?

  • lovingadam

    someone tweet this to a james fan … hahaha

    @JDurbinAI10 @adamlambert @CHRIS_Daughtry Then why didn’t he go there in the first place? AL’s gay, single, jewish. Get real.

  • soamused

    I agree, yellin, Durbin’s doing everything very, VERY right. His gf needs to get him back onto twitter, pronto!

  • Moria Polonius

    Maybe he’s doped on something? There’s “unfiltered” but these twitter sprees are just unreal. Yea, I hope the outside press will pick it up because this is just comedy gold.

    ETA: Awww, his girlfriend took the twitter away from him. Better late than never, I guess? For James anyway, not for the ones enjoying the popcorn.

  • Avari

    Oh, James, James, James!! There’s naive, and then there’s clueless….and then there is down rightstupid. I…don’t know what to say really. I’m really trying to maintain my fondness for James while still being a total Adam-stan….but James is making this really difficult. Why hasn’t someone muzzled him yet?

  • http://mjsbigblog bessiedim

    James should have just asked advice from the judges who kept praising him to high heavens during the AI run…And why go on twitter if you’re really sincere in mending fences.This is totally becoming a comedy of errors with his denial of asking Adam’s advice..Bottom line he’s nothing but a trying hard,second rate copycat.

  • Tess

    I’m not one to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon but I must admit that I’m sure getting the itchies that James is going through some kind of breakdown right now….I’m not talking about anything major, just a feeling that he isn’t playing cards with a full deck right now.

  • annie12120

    I am seriously trying to find out with these issues are – James, the newbie, is not supposed to tweet with other Idols that have been around for a while? He is not to look for advice from the “demigods” of Idol?
    Open dialog between a few guys who share a common interest can be a bitch it seems? I find it refreshing to see them all acting like normal people, one looking for help and advice from the two more experienced, but I must be missing something.
    I’d guess Adam and Daughtry would be flattered to have a newbie asking them for advice. And I am enjoying them all sharing tweets out in the open.
    Better than the drought of late for news of some of these guys :)

  • abbysee

    Oh my lord, death by Twitter. I don’t even know what to say. I am sure his girlfriend wishes she had taken him off twitter about 1400 characters sooner! Twittercide smh!

  • tls62

    Bottom line he’s nothing but a trying hard, second rate copycat.

    Bingo.

  • Moria Polonius

    I’d guess Adam and Daughtry would be flattered to have a newbie asking them for advice.

    Sure, if they were asked in a more socially-accepted manner, instead of amidst twitter-induced insanity and asshattery.

  • Kirkee

    Better than the drought of late for news of some of these guys :)

    I’ve seen some bits of news lately on Daughtry’s upcoming album. And certainly there is no lack of news on Adam what with playing the big rock festival in Moscow last week. The only drought of news/buzz I can see is the lack of such on James.

  • iluvai

    I said this morning that I don’t think twitter should be used just because it can. There might be more appropriate ways to conduct certain kinds of business/communication. Yes, I’m talking to you James! ;)

    But the way this has all played out seems just kinda sad. I feel bad for James. Hopefully this all dies down like the nothingness it should be (imo).

  • aa618892

    Is James drunk? For the last 2 days? I’m serious.

  • sr4mjc

    How to Seek Advice and Win Double Points!

    http://i56.tinypic.com/zmkznd.png

    About time someone took twitter away, it was not helping.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    JDurbinAI10
    Hi! This is Heidi.. I wanted to thank each and every single one of James’ fans out there who voted for James and… http://fb.me/13PhQDG3W

    LOL! I can imagine Heidi getting frantic phone calls/tweets pleading with her to get James off Twitter ASAP! OK, so far, James has pissed off Adam’s fans, Gaga’s fans, members of the GLBT community and Jews (or maybe more specifically, non-Christians) . Pretty soon he will have burned almost every bridge available in the entertainment community.

    ETA:

    Is James drunk? For the last 2 days? I’m serious.

    Not on liquor, just too full of himself and a bit delusional about his status in the entertainment universe.

  • musicality

    Can I swear on here? If so………James just shut the fuck up already. What the hell is wrong with this guy? If he’s not on drugs, alcohol or whatever than he is the biggest asshole around. How the hell is any one a fan of him? He makes Gokey look like a the most articulate guy around.

    I had to unfollow him on twitter but my twitter feed was going wild with his latest stupidity. Even unfollowing him I can’t get rid of this asshole.

  • Mel1

    David Cook’s scorned again. (Or maybe James DM’d him but didn’t get a response.)

  • dcglam

    And he’s a Christian I hear! That’s double points in my family’s book! Good people!

    Ugh…… Totally unbelievable! I have no more words.

  • Miss Chaos

    Oh My poor Chris D and Adam having to deal with this and stay nice, otherwise they will catch all hell. I am really confused with James, what is he thinking, or not! What is wrong with him, is it his problems, or is it just James, either way this just isnt good for him, kinda like a little lost boy with no one to turn to, I hope he can work it out.

  • koshka

    Mel1 says:
    06/06/2011 at 8:44 pm
    David Cook’s scorned again. (Or maybe James DM’d him but didn’t get a response.)

    Considering Durbin’s foot in mouth disease.. I’m kinda thinking Cook actually scored again. He doesn’t deal with the BS. LOL

  • JOJOSIE

    The rest of the world has little idea of what is said here. Idol Internet fans live in a world that has little effect elsewhere. thank goodness. I really wanted to say thank God, but didn’t what to start a religious rant. James is Christian as is his family, Adam was born Jewish( but is not a practicing Jew).He says he’s spirtual. James mentions his families views and get crucified.(oophs) It sure doesn’t make him anti Jewish or anti Muslim anti spitualist, etc.

  • Tess

    I could care less about the religious or anti-religious stuff and that has absolutely nothing to do with my open mouth gapping at James tweets.

    Unless I can’t read James contacted Adam initially to have lunch and get some one on one advise (or words to that affect). But later when someone questions him about it after he seeks advise from Daughtry, James responds that he only wanted lunch with Adam to settle their differences and that he never wanted advise from Adam. So either James has a short memory or I am reading things that were never twittered. I kind of think that James may be a little confused, not me.

  • soverymel

    James mentions his families views and get crucified.

    JOJOSIE I don’t think anyone is faulting James for mentioning his families faith, just the really unfortunate way he phrased it, like Christians are somehow worth twice as much as people of other religions. And judging by his subsequent tweets, he really does not seem to understand why anyone might be taken aback by that comment.

    Sure I can give him the benefit of the doubt on it, it seems inconceivable that he actually believes what it sounded like. Just like I gave him the benefit of the doubt last night when he went about things in what seemed like most awkward way humanly possible. But I gotta say, it makes me tired just thinking about James undergoing the gauntlet of Idol tour press on a regular basis this summer.

    ETA: Yeah Tess I saw that part and was like srsly James? That was the first thing you asked for LOL. Sorry dude, you can’t rewrite history online, the internet is forever.

  • smeggingnuts

    So either James has a short memory or I am reading things that were never twittered.

    Nope you are remembering correctly James is say advice. I think this shows that his I want some one on one advice talk was just a smoke screen for trying to fix the whole “feud” thing that apparently James thought was still going on but had ended weeks ago.

  • Milly21

    This guy needs to really stop embarassing himself. who asks someone for “one on one advice” one day then the next day denies ever having said that. thats just completely bizarre. just yesterday around the time he was tweeting adam he was telling the comedian Daniel Tosh that they should hang that he has a picture of the two of them framed. i mean come on! COME ON! LOLOLOL

    The whole thing with Adam just seems desperate and a tad obsessive. For some reason the movie Single White Female comes to mind LMFAO

    I dont think Adam ever even thinks twice about James until James goes on and does something like this. its ridiculous.

    As far as the religion thing goes, i dont even think he meant anything by it, but the way he says things comes off as truly bizarre.

    Its really fun following this whole thing, i cant wait to hear whats to come during the interviews during the idol tour! ive got the popcorn ready

  • soverymel

    For some reason the movie Single White Female comes to mind LMFAO

    Aw I don’t think it’s quite that bad. Although I admit I did get that SWF vibe way in the beginning of the season when James said his favorite Idol performance was Adam’s with KISS, because KISS was one of his favorite bands and he could see himself up there performing with them. LOL it was like he’d mentally chloroformed Adam and replaced him with himself in his mind.

  • Fenway

    All I can say is that I am not a James fan or an Adam fan, but it is obvious that James does not have a clue how to handle this situation he is in. I am feeling very sorry for him right now. He might be 23, but his social capacity seems to be about 12. Some of you want to give Adam the benefit of the doubt and some want to give James the benefit of the doubt. I say call it a draw and get on with other things. I had a 24 year old young man with aspergers who was a volunteer where I worked. He was the greatest volunteer, but he was socially inept. One day he is telling me I am pretty, and the next day he tells me he doesn’t like the way I am wearing my hair. You really never knew what was coming out of his mouth. I hope James gets some help. Maybe his girlfriend can rein him in, but this must be so hard on them both.

  • acciofirebolt29

    I am ashamed to call myself a Glambert when I read all the hateful crap half of you are saying. I really hope one day you have to deal directly with someone who is autistic so that youll understand where James is coming from and why he does what he does. To MJ, your a hateful brat who has nothing better to do than attack someone who basically has a handicap. All you Glamberts who spout your crap about love and acceptance are hypocrites to the tenth degree. You all need to grow up. The only people who are making a big deal about these tweet are stupid bloggers spouting thier hate and hateful Glamberts who have nothing better to do than whorship a man you can never have. I love Adam and James and Chris D and I dont see anything wrong with any tweets that happen. How about practicing what you preach and showing a little love and tolerance.

  • agathe.hb

    Fenway, I am sorry, but my 12 year old would never say things like that :(

  • CindyM

    Nevermind.

  • SajiNoKami

    The only thing going through my mind during this whole thing, besides who needs tv when you have twitter, was:
    Adam, you are being a bit passive aggressive. I hope you pick up that James is being sincere. Please don’t burn him.
    Toward the end, Adam obviously got that and in a rather polite: oh crap what do i do, type moment, Adam peacefully ended it. Glad Daughtry is willing to talk.
    Twitter could be a dangerous thing for james.. but there have been times when other celebs, including Adam, really should not have access to twitter.

  • dana80

    How does “one on one advice” translate to “I didn’t asked for his advice”? It’s all there at the top of the page. Should we excuse James when he flat out lies?

    Heidi, you’re a good woman

  • CindyM

    Click to EditRequest Deletion
    SajiNoKami says:
    06/07/2011 at 12:46 am
    The only thing going through my mind during this whole thing, besides who needs tv when you have twitter, was:
    Adam, you are being a bit passive aggressive. I hope you pick up that James is being sincere. Please don’t burn him.

    Really? What’s funny is that you gave James the “sincere” benefit of the doubt, but his tweets tonight negate that. James tweets tonight that he wanted no advice at all from Adam, so why put him on the spot on very public Twitter? That seems like a P/A move to me. Why not try to get hold of him through more private channels as he obviously has done with Daughtry?

  • Montavilla

    Twitter could be a dangerous thing for james.. but there have been times when other celebs, including Adam, really should not have access to twitter.

    It’s quite true. Adam’s had his WTF twitters… and so have many others. I don’t feel ashamed for enjoying the silliness of today, but that doesn’t mean I dislike James.

    I’m putting this all in the category of foibles to love about someone. Like, as Melinda Doolittle said about wittle Wauren, we’ll just have to get used to her fashion sense if we want to love her.

    Heck, Adam’s been training us for the last two years about that. I chuckled at his pirate hair and I’m chuckling at James’s attempts to dig out of a fairly shallow hole. Tomorrow, I’ll spend my time chuckling at Simon Cowell and his never-ending search for a judge. At this rate, it’ll take longer than the search for the next superstar.

    But behind that, I can see that James needed some advice and he reached out to ask for it. I’m glad, whether or not he ever has lunch with Adam, that Chris Daughtry responded.

    Fundamentally, I think it’s every current Idol’s right to ask their elders for advice, especially at this point in their careers (since the machine only protects them when they are on the show). I think it’s every successful Idol’s obligation to help with advice and support if they can.

    The feud? Pure silliness.

  • agathe.hb

    well, score for Daughtry :) yey
    I am glad he met with James approval
    and he is Christian to boot!!!!

  • lisaRW

    James needs to relax and think before he tweets. His calling out Adam on twitter was uncool but no big deal, ppl seemed ticked Adam did a little smack down on him but it was not out of line.

    For James to be disparaging and dismissive of Adam’s post Idol career to then turn around and ask Adam for advice on his post Idol career is just weird and personally I woulda been a little eff u too. Adam’s name is an attention getter and he has to be careful about ppl’s motives esp when its done on the most public domain.

    everyone talks on how sincerely he wanted Adam’s advice but then when fans are questioning him about it, James is backtracking pretty quickly. Then James seems happy enough that now Daughtry will talk to him, and he’s so happy cuz the nice christian boy is better anyway right (better than??? the gay jew ?) extra points!!

    sorry, his comments are out of line and offensive.

  • Susan

    I wish I could hunt down this joke e-mail I got once. It was aimed at women, trying to explain how men think. Basically it said something like, “If what I say can be taken two ways, and one of them makes you cry/angry/etc. — I meant it the other way.”

    And THAT is how you have to take James. We all KNOW what he means (well, most of the time — I don’t get how asking Adam for advice wasn’t actually asking him for advice, either), so I’m not sure why we’re on page 12 of trying to dissect what he says and read far more into it than he is capable of intending.

  • lisaRW

    Montavilla says:

    I’m putting this all in the category of foibles to love about someone. Like, as Melinda Doolittle said about wittle Wauren, we’ll just have to get used to her fashion sense if we want to love her. Heck, Adam’s been training us for the last two years about that. I chuckled at his pirate hair.

    Umm this is not a bad hairstyle issue. James essentially created the idea of a “fued” then took pains to say how he thought Adam threw away his Idol fans when he did a “freaking electro album”

    so to then turn around and call on Adam publicly to bury the fued hatchet by you meeting me for lunch and advising me is putting Adam in a bad spot. its awkward but no the end of the world.

    but then own it, he’s all mr Im going to stick to my guns and be honest and do things my way but as soon as fans questioned him and he backpedaled quickly, huh oh no, didnt do that and hey look, gonna meet with nice christian family man so no worries……not the worst crime but a foible to love?? no

  • Susan

    How does “one on one advice” translate to “I didn’t asked for his advice”? It’s all there at the top of the page. Should we excuse James when he flat out lies?

    Isn’t it one of the hallmarks of Asperger’s that they can’t lie, like not even a little white lie? I’m not saying what he said makes any sense at all except to James, but if that is true, then he can’t be “lying” in his mind.

  • agathe.hb

    it’s too bad that his girlfriend took his Twitter away :(
    I just brought plenty of popcorn and was ready for this great show to continue :(

  • ghostface wankah

    SajiNoKami says:
    06/07/2011 at 12:46 am
    The only thing going through my mind during this whole thing, besides who needs tv when you have twitter, was:
    Adam, you are being a bit passive aggressive. I hope you pick up that James is being sincere. Please don’t burn him.

    Actually James really hasn’t been sincere about Adam from the beginning, really. He was the first person to bring up Adam’s name when referring to his rock wails, then turned around and acted like he was upset people were making the comparison. He made it clear on twitter he didn’t really care for Adam even prior to Adam’s comment about being ‘over’ James. And now, after being dismissive of Adam’s post-idol music by saying he turned his back on his fans, he asks Adam publicly on twitter for advice, then backpedals and says he didn’t. Not to mention “bonus round points” evidently for Daughtry being a Christian, as opposed to… Adam being Jewish?

    I’m aware he has aspergers but that does not excuse one from being disingenuous, nor does it give give you a pass to believe Christians are better than anyone else. Most people with aspergers will be the first one to let you know that the condition is no excuse for being an ass.

  • theonlygirl

    Honestly, I have no sympathy whatsoever for the guy. I don’t care if he has Aspergers. I’m sure it’s a very complicated and difficult to live with condition, but he chose to go on TV and become what he is today, which is pretty much nothing, but still in the public eye. So, yeah no sympathy from me. I’m not going to excuse his behaviour just because I feel sorry for him or I’m projecting my own life on him. He is a douche, a liar, offensive, and knew perfectly well what he was doing when tweeting Adam IMO. he definitely liked it when all those blog/media articles about his “feud” came out. I’m sure he misses it and wanted it back, and since Adam did not fall into the web a second time, he can go to Daughtry now. I’m sure Chris will give him good advice as the good man he is. And NO he is not a good man because he is Christian, Durbin. He can just stay away from Adam as much as possible, kthnks.

  • soverymel

    Honestly, I have no sympathy whatsoever for the guy.

    I don’t think I’d go that far myself, I have a lot of sympathy for him. While he chose to go on a reality tv show, I’m sure at times it’s been difficult to navigate with his disability.

    But I do agree on wishing he would just leave Adam out of it. James said himself months ago that the only thing he and Adam have in common musically is they go for the high notes, and with this recent kerfuffle he’s let us in on the fact that he relates better to someone who is a Christian family man.

    If what he was actually trying to do with his twitter spamming was publicly settle the so called “feud” I don’t really think it was necessary since no one was even talking about it anymore, but whatevs I’d say at this point other than those of us in the Idol bubble still poking at the details it’s settled.

  • Grammie Kari

    I am trying to understand James, and I do feel he is talented. I wish there was someone who could provide daily counseling for him. I don’t know what his fiancee can do to help. He seems impulsive, but sincere.

    If Chris is sincere about meeting with James, I hope it happens. Certainly, he could provide some useful advice. There has been too much going down between Adam and James. It reminds me of Junior High antics. I want James to have success for his family… a home and some money in the bank. I hope he gets some GOOD advice somewhere.

  • dana80

    Aaaand, the tweets are gone. Maybe this will be the end of it.

  • musicality

    Durbin is making lots of money from the show. He chose to be on the show. He is choosing to mouth off on twitter. He is 23 not 12 as he behaves. I don’t get the guy nor do I care to try.

  • musicality

    Aaaand, the tweets are gone. Maybe this will be the end of it.

    Ha….he deleted everything. I wonder if TPTB told him to or he did it on his own. All the rambling about how he has a jewish lawyer was kind of funny.

  • EmyR

    Aaaand, the tweets are gone. Maybe this will be the end of it.

    Deleted, but not gone. The internet is forever, and I know many screen shots and such exist. Don’t put out there in the digital world what you can’t backup, essentially.

    And deleting the tweets was probably a bad idea all around – it shows some amount of guilt, that he or his teams know he did something wrong or at least not exactly right. And this comes after he blatantly contradicts himself about asking for advice. To me, combined with the fact that he asked his fans if people thought him reaching out to Adam was “shocking,” cements to me that this whole thing was intended to gain attention, and it bad fired for James a bit.

    It all comes off a little too much like backpedaling when you’ve been caught doing something you shouldn’t have been.

  • soverymel

    Aaaand, the tweets are gone. Maybe this will be the end of it.

    Oh wow James really did delete all of the tweets relating to both Adam and Daughtry. I wonder what went down behind the scenes. Regardless, I really hope you’re right and that this is the end of it.

    ETA: Ah apparently he left up the very first tweet wishing for Daughtry. LOL okay.

  • SajiNoKami

    The whole thing was so, odd. James tweeting so obsessively after so much silents. Adam actually tweeting back. Then Heidi coming on and making a statement. I personally would not be surprised if she deleted them. Then the fact all the rest of them were so quiet during the time. TPTB did leave up: for the record, I wish Daughtry could give me advice..That would be gooder than good :)

    Not sure what it was, but something sure set the kid off.

  • Chicagolaw

    OK, I take it all back. The whole thing with Adam was a big bunch of insincere PR. Good luck, Chris—but I would be really careful with what I tell this guy.

  • Studio57

    I’ve defended Durbs previously in this thread but even I got a chuckle or two out of those tweets, and people’s reactions to them. James just doesn’t know how fast fans can copy and paste, lol. I actually saw a timeline this morning with bullet points hahaha. What is tweeted can really not be untweeted. And the whole ” some of my best friends are____)” moment just made me want to delete his twitter for him. It’s such an immature/ ignorant response. Luckily it looks like he has a wife that watches out for him.

  • musicality

    Luckily it looks like he has a wife that watches out for him.

    umm…….James is not married. He’s the Christian guy with the “family values” living with a woman and their illigitimate child. Oh but wait, that’s different.

  • Studio57

    hahaha- totally forgot they weren’t married. Yeah he really stepped in it didn’t he, lol.

  • sr4mjc

    I hate deleted tweets. Put it out there and own it. Someone will screen cap it. Maybe he was on Ambien and tweeting.

  • agathe.hb

    well, sometimes it’s “drunk tweeting”, so one should be allowed to delete them, hehehehe :)

  • weareallinnocent

    This all ended up total lulz for me. But, deleting, James? Seriously? Deny, then delete. Quite the winning PR strategy. :-)

  • dana80

    well, sometimes it’s “drunk tweeting”, so one should be allowed to delete them, hehehehe

    Considering that it went for two days, it must’ve been some heavy drinking involved

  • theonlygirl

    I hate deleted tweets. Put it out there and own it. Someone will screen cap it. Maybe he was on Ambien and tweeting.

    Totally agree. And Awwwww Adam tweets his boyfriend’s name while on Ambien <3 I prefer his method ;)

  • smeggingnuts

    James deleted? Really James hahahahahahahahahahaha

    Press rounds for tour are going to be hilarious this summer with James constant SNAFU’s hahahahahah

    Brb going to Costco for popcorn

  • fuzzywuzzy
    Aaaand, the tweets are gone. Maybe this will be the end of it.

    Ha….he deleted everything. I wonder if TPTB told him to or he did it on his own. All the rambling about how he has a jewish lawyer was kind of funny.

    Oh, don’t forget about the one Jewish friend too! ;)

    umm…….James is not married. He’s the Christian guy with the “family values” living with a woman and their illigitimate child. Oh but wait, that’s different.

    LOL!

    This all ended up total lulz for me. But, deleting, James? Seriously? Deny, then delete. Quite the winning PR strategy. :-)

    It was pretty funny, but I wasn’t thrilled about the simplistic “Christians are better” viewpoint. Evidently, someone realized that James had made some mistakes and didn’t want anything more to come of this.

    James deleted? Really James hahahahahahahahahahaha

    Press rounds for tour are going to be hilarious this summer with James constant SNAFU’s hahahahahah

    I wouldn’t be surprised if James’ meetings with the press were limited on the tour, and when he does meet with them, they will have someone there to give him signs about when to STFU. He sure needs a crash course in PR.

  • sunchick

    Man, why does all the funny shit happen when I don’t have a chance to check MJ’s? Seems like there is at least one Idol every year who develops a bad case of foot in mouth disease after the show kicks them out of the nest into the big, bad world of social media. This season’s first victim: James Durbin. Also Adam? Never change.

    He’s expressed time and again that David Cook is his favorite and inspires him, I’d think he’d tweet him instead.

    LOL, I think Durbin stopped namechecking Cook after Cook namechecked Casey as his sentimental fave in an interview.

  • cwm

    I can’t help but picture Adam shaking his head as this unfolded. First, being very publicly put on the spot over twitter to agree to a meeting to advise James, agreeing to it, and then once James had secured Daughtry, learning that his own advice was no longer desired (or even sought out in the first place apparently), perhaps at least in part because he’s not a Christian, and then seeing that the conversation has been erased, as though it never even happened. Oy.

    Oh James. This didn’t exactly unfold the way he had envisioned, did it? Get that man some PR training, STAT. I don’t harbor ill will toward James because I don’t believe that he meant for this whole exchange to come across as negatively as it did, but as others have said, he could sure benefit from some strong guidance.

    I have to say, though, it was definitely popcorn-worthy.

  • Lock

    To those who try to blame anyone other than James Durbin himself for this whole thing, I think it’s rediculous. Neither Adam nor Glamberts should be responsible for what James Durbin has done. Blaming or accusing wrong people for whatever James is doing are not cool!!! He may be handicapped but it’s neither Adam nor Glamberts’ fault. Adam didn’t do nothing but to respond to James’ tweets appropriately. You can find any excuses to defend James. But don’t try to accuse the wrong people, especially Adam. What’s done is done. You can’t deny. Screen shots are there and don’t lie. James, seriously, you need help!!!!!

  • TwigLA

    Just sad. I hope Daughtry can give him some good advice that he will follow. #1 would be to limit your twittering to PR only … and have someone proofread for stupid first.

  • agathe.hb

    that entire situation calls for “facepalm” meme
    http://www.bloblo.pl/image/163563/oryginal/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

  • Miss Chaos

    This is the most entertaining thing since Idol was over, I hope we hear more, just dont want anyone to really get hurt from all this, James may seem like a douch, but I dont think he is doing it on purpose, just doesnt understand how this all works, when you Tweet people that the public is interested in, there will be fallout, Poor clueless guy. And Adam handled it perfectly. But my question is, Is lunch cancelled??????

  • sr4mjc

    AdeleOfficial has their own twitter and it’s PR run. I don’t think she tweets. Carrie doesn’t have a twitter. Perhaps James should think about that option.

  • cwm

    Miss Chaos:
    But my question is, Is lunch cancelled??????

    Haha yeah, that’s the remaining burning question!

  • Fenway

    agathe.hb My kids when they were 12 wouldn’t have done this either (of course they didn’t have twitter then) and my 12 year old grandson wouldn’t either, but he has adults to guide his way and he hasn’t been on AI and hasn’t a family to support. I think poor Heidi is the adult who is trying to keep James in check, but it is hard to control a 23 year old man who doesn’t seem to have the skills to control himself. I still feel very sorry for that family. It is going to be a hard life for them.

  • smeggingnuts

    I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone that puts themselves on a reality TV show.

  • agathe.hb

    so if the lunch is cancelled maybe one of us will have a chance ;)

  • cwm

    Haha agathe.hb, I like the way you think! Let’s all form an orderly line. ;-)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I hate deleted tweets. Put it out there and own it. Someone will screen cap it.

    What’s done is done. You can’t deny. Screen shots are there and don’t lie. James, seriously, you need help!!!!!

    James can’t backtrack on the “one on one advice” request to Adam because articles printed it before he deleted his tweets:

    http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00041114.html

    http://idolator.com/5889941/adam-lambert-james-durbin-settle-their-feud-over-twitter

    http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/06/adam-lambert-james-durbin-end-feud-over-twitter.html

  • http://http://adamlamberttv.blogspot.com/2011/06/james-durbin-asks-adam-lambert-out-on.html Lock
  • Niall

    So was Heidi his activity therapist or life coach initially? I only ask because she seems older and more together than he is. I’ve gone back and forth with James but last night proved he’s immature and a loose, clueless cannon. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be his significant other, and having to play a duel role as lifeskills coach.

  • SajiNoKami

    So was Heidi his activity therapist or life coach initially? I only ask because she seems older and more together than he is. I’ve gone back and forth with James but last night proved he’s immature and a loose, clueless cannon. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be his significant other, and having to play a duel role as lifeskills coach.

    @Niall

    If what I have read in random places is true…
    Heidi is 31, 8 years older than james and they met in a bar when he was 19. But they kind of, sort of knew each other much earlier in life because their mothers knew each other in church. Heidi knew of James when she was 13, I believe. Very much: ‘it’s a small world’ mentality.

  • EmyR

    So was Heidi his activity therapist or life coach initially? I only ask because she seems older and more together than he is.

    But they kind of, sort of knew each other much earlier in life because their mothers knew each other in church.

    From what he’s said, she actually used to babysit him when he was little, and they didn’t initially recognize each other when they re-met years later.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    So was Heidi his activity therapist or life coach initially? I only ask because she seems older and more together than he is.

    Heidi is 9 years older than James, and from the video clips in his backstory, she pretty much acts like his life coach/therapist in helping him deal with problems arising from the Asperger’s on a daily basis.

  • Moria Polonius

    Heidi is 9 years older than James, and from the video clips in his backstory, she pretty much acts like his life coach/therapist in helping him deal with problems arising from the Asperger’s on a daily basis.

    Okay, like many, I thought James was a hypocrite when he declares himself Christian all the time and is not married to the mother of his child, but that fact changes my opinion a little. It’s entirely possible that Heidi, being older and more experienced, was simply reluctant to marry James who couldn’t even hold a job. Getting married requires two people willing to.

  • musicality

    Sounds like Heidi is more like playing the Mommy role. I can’t picture Heidi being all that great a catch. Sorry but the simple facts of life are if you are attractive, desirable and a good catch you wouldn’t saddle yourself with an unemployed guy with the emotional mentality of a 12 year old unless you had problems yourself. Don’t give me any of the she saw the good in him or some such BS. There are a lot of good guys are there with out all the baggage. Guaranteed Heidi comes with a hell of a lot of baggage herself. Guaranteed she has a lot of issues.

  • agathe.hb

    sound a little like craddle robbing ;)
    just joking, I believe that when two people love each other, age doesn’t matter
    he needs somebody mature to take care of him and she needs to take care of somebody – perfect couple :D

  • JazzRocks

    I could be wrong but I thought I remembered that Daughtry’s wife is older than him. Something else they have in common if true.

  • Miss Chaos

    I could be wrong but I thought I remembered that Daughtry’s wife is older than him. Something else they have in common if true.

    Yes she is just not sure how many years tho, good thing James got in touch with him!!!!

  • agathe.hb

    Miss Chaos, wow, how can she not be sure how much older she is? unless she is in deep denial?????? ;)

  • turquoisewaters

    Leave it to Durbin to make even the most fervently straight, Christian segments of his fanbase somewhat uncomfortable with his obvious attempts at fan-pandering.
    I cannot help but feel just a wee bit sorry for the guy. He just seems way out of his depth right now. Let’s leave his girlfriend out of this, though. I have a feeling she has enough on her plate as is.

  • zzatrms

    Yes she is just not sure how many years tho, good thing James got in touch with him!!!!

    agathe.hb says:
    06/07/2011 at 6:17 pm
    Miss Chaos, wow, how can she not be sure how much older she is? unless she is in deep denial??????

    I think you have to read
    ‘Yes she is just not sure how many years tho,’
    as
    Yes, she is (but I’m) just not sure how many years tho…

  • SajiNoKami

    …is it bad that i am hoping James will take a chance and tweet again.. maybe this time it will go better.

  • zzatrms

    Sounds like Heidi is more like playing the Mommy role. I can’t picture Heidi being all that great a catch. Sorry but the simple facts of life are if you are attractive, desirable and a good catch you wouldn’t saddle yourself with an unemployed guy with the emotional mentality of a 12 year old unless you had problems yourself. Don’t give me any of the she saw the good in him or some such BS. There are a lot of good guys are there with out all the baggage. Guaranteed Heidi comes with a hell of a lot of baggage herself. Guaranteed she has a lot of issues.

    You can’t help who you fall in love with … only what you do about it.

  • revcat

    I thought James was really popular during Idol but then he cried a bit and some of the people I know turned on him. (Scotty was crying like a baby during the finale but I guess that’s okay cuz 1. he’s younger than James 2. he is country and can get away with it?)

    But my reaction is who cares if James is a little different. Also, I’m not interested in analyzing his relationship with Heidi; I’ll leave that up to Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew :)

    My deal is this: You either like his music or you don’t. I’m not into his style, but I think he must have something going on or he wouldn’t have been kept in the competition that long. If I were into his music a few tears and a quirky personality wouldn’t be a hindrance.

    I hope James is able to do something with his career after the tour, but we all know it’s a long and winding road. It’s a treacherous business. And Daughtry might be able to mentor him, probably better suited for the job than Adam just because their musical and personal interests are a bit more similar.

  • zzatrms

    I’m with you revcat. I love James. If we were all the same it would be boring. Tears are honest emotion and I never have a problem with tears.

  • Axxxel

    I remember Adam admitting having a mini-identity crisis after the Idol finale… He wasn’t sure which direction to take when music was concerned… Maybe it is James’ turn to have that similar crisis…

  • soverymel

    I remember Adam admitting having a mini-identity crisis after the Idol finale… He wasn’t sure which direction to take when music was concerned…

    Actually I remember hearing that Adam went into his first meeting with RCA with an actual mission statement on what he intended his first album to sound like, that he was sort of amusingly well prepared. I think the moments of uncertainty Adam talked about in the interview were about if he was doing the right thing, not being undecided about which direction to go. And basically every single interview Adam gave from the minute he walked off the Idol finale stage gave the same description for his album, a hybrid of pop with electro and rock elements.

  • smeggingnuts

    Maybe it is James’ turn to have that similar crisis…

    In James’ case I don’t think it will be “mini” he is way to emotionally unstable for a mini crisis. Hopefully his support system can help him deal. Not dogging him either just saying some people don’t deal well with strong emotions and you can tell James is one of those.

  • weareallinnocent

    I guess I missed the part about fans abandoning James over a few tears? I’ve never been a fan, but certainly wouldn’t be bothered by a crying rocker. As a diehard Cook fan, how could I be? lol :-)

  • MayMirabella

    I have this picture in my mind of Chris Daughtry somewhere saying to himself…Why Me? I will tell James one bit of advice..Stop Tweeting !! Get off Twitter !!!

  • MayMirabella

    James would benefit from hiring a PR person to handle his communications. Or his girlfriend could assume the duties and advise James to stay off twitter and she will take care of that for him.

    He really does need a PR person to take charge and limit his communications and mentor him before interviews.

  • Desdemona

    zzatrms says:
    06/08/2011 at 12:18 am
    I’m with you revcat. I love James. If we were all the same it would be boring. Tears are honest emotion and I never have a problem with tears.

    I’m with you both. I’ve had a soft spot for him from the beginning, and I absolutely love his voice. It makes me sad to see all the ridicule for him, but doesn’t change my feelings one bit, and as far as I can tell he’s got a very strong fan base. He is so talented I want good things for him. I’ve downloaded every one of his songs on itunes – like some better than others, but I wanted them all.

  • Debb

    You people are cruel-if you don’t like the guy then just leave him be. Why do you have to rip someone to shreds. He is a Sweet guy with a lot of talent and he will be successful. His condition makes him socially awkward so if he doesn’t tweet the way you want him to then don’t read it. I am sure Adam will not give any mind to any of this nor should you. I am a big fan of both & will continue to support James. I hope for only good things for him.

  • Karalyn

    I’m sensing growing frustration among Adam fans because they have been on a campaign for months now to turn people against James, and it’s obviously not working. I don’t know who coined the phrase “Glambullies” – I’ve seen it used quite a bit lately – but that phrase fits perfectly. There are actually Glambullies who follow James on twitter and take the time to go to his online videos just to post nasty comments. Adam has to be ashamed at how some of his fans are acting. If he’s not, then that says a lot about him too.