Idol Related Sales Numbers after the jump (Billboard issue date 07/04/09)

Digital Downloads
21 Jordin Sparks “Battlefield” 54,566 (41%; lw 38,678) Total: 240,590 (31)
35 Kellie Picler “Best Days of Your Life” 38,393 (15%; lw 33,374) Total: 513,474 (37) **NOW GOLD**
38 Daughtry “No Surprise” 36,817 (15%; lw 32,036) Total: 336,738 (40)
39 Kelly Clarkson “I Do Not Hook Up” 36,631 (-5%; lw 38,504) Total: 444,469 (32)
91 David Cook “Come Back To Me” 17,786 (4%; lw 17,120) Total: 215,668 (87)

Songs Featured on SYTYCD:
14 Kristina Debarge “Goodbye” 73,959 (-14%; lw 86,233) Total: 541,094 (11) – Performed on Results Show
57 Frames “Falling Slowly” 27,347 (21604%; lw 126) Total: 56,769 (OFF) – Karla and Jonathan
60 Black Eyed Peas “Imma Be” 27,017 (109%; lw 12,896) Total: 122,538 (117) Ashley and Kupono
128 Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova “Falling Slowly” 11,801 (395%; lw 2,385) Total: 407,872 (OFF) – Karla and Jonathan

Please post numbers as you find them. Thanks!

 
  • Kirsten

    Airplay (increase in overall audience impressions):
    No. 20 – Kelly Clarkson ( 2.0 million))
    No. 60 – Daughtry ( 1.7 million)
    No. 72 – Jordin Sparks ( 3.5 million)
    No. 101 – David Cook ( 0.9 million)

  • tinawina

    Go Pickler! Go Jordin! Look at those idols go :drunk_tb:

  • terps

    Kelly seems like she still is one of the if not the top idol. Still going strong

  • phoenixml

    ^The digital performance of I Do Not Hook Up is pretty underwhelming though. It has already peaked and it still hasn’t reached 500,000.

  • Jolene

    ^ Especially considering the amount of exposure and radio success she has. It’s even more pronounced in her album sales. Maybe her next single will re-energize this era for her, I’d hate to see it do worse than My December when all is said and done.

  • tinawina

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d hater to see it do worse than My December when all is said and done.

    I don’t think that will happen. But that would be a trip.

    I really think she just needs a new single. Right now everything she’s released sounds like Katy Perry.

  • leome

    Kinda makes you wonder why a song gets so much airplay when people don’t seem to care about it one bit.

  • terps

    Already gone the next single will probably help sales

  • weareallinnocent

    Well, for Kelly’s commercial sake, I hope this album fares better than My December, but for her personal artistic satisfaction, it wouldn’t be totally awful if it didn’t…. But that’s me, and I love My December more than any other effort of hers to date, so there’s that. :-)

    That said, in this economic climate, I believe it’s probably fair to say, this album already is selling well enough to pass the level of My December’s sales in its day. The market sux, comparatively speaking — this is a general assessment and in no way meant to be mathematically, statistically, or scientifically accurate. LOL

  • Tess

    Kinda makes you wonder why a song gets so much airplay when people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to care about it one bit.

    Do we know numbers for all of the top 10 songs? Comparing apples to apples at this point would help me understand how Idol sales are comparing with other “current” Artists….not numbers from a time long long ago and far far away. In case anyone forgets we are in a recession and it’s pretty hard for a lot of people to even come up with an extra buck to buy a download.

  • Kirsten

    Do we know numbers for all of the top 10 songs?

    Here are the numbers for the top 10 digital songs:

    1 1 BLACK EYED PEAS I GOTTA FEELING 232264 -7 249133 481397
    2 2 BLACK EYED PEAS BOOM BOOM POW 183227 -15 215886 2985513
    – 3 DRAKE BEST I EVER HAD 152549 999 63 202729
    3 4 KINGSTON*SEAN FIRE BURNING 128700 1 126913 744238
    4 5 LADY GAGA LOVEGAME 123686 -1 125407 928335
    5 6 PITBULL I KNOW YOU WANT ME (CALLE OCHO 106497 -5 112211 1211183
    6 7 HILSON*KERI FEAT. KANYE WEST & KNOCK YOU DOWN 105575 3 102150 800696
    7 8 PERRY*KATY WAKING UP IN VEGAS 98172 -4 102022 754185
    8 9 SHINEDOWN SECOND CHANCE 90977 -6 96413 1431882
    99 10 YOUNG MONEY EVERY GIRL 90355 478 15631 144697

    Here are the numbers for the top 20 songs from Mediabase in audience impressions (thanks to juliobrasil at pulse)
    1. KERI HILSON – Knock You Down = 109.964 ( 0.590) =
    2. JEREMIH – Birthday Sex = 99.071 (- 0.210)  Ãƒâ€š £
    3. BLACK EYED PEAS – Boom Boom Pow = 98.461 (- 1.061)  Ãƒâ€š ¥
    4. DRAKE – Best I Ever Had = 92.482 ( 2.591) =
    5. MILEY CYRUS – The Climb = 84.479 ( 1.013) =
    6. PITBULL – I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) = 79.921 (- 0.372)  Ãƒâ€š £
    7. BEYONCE – Halo = 79.809 (- 0.757)  Ãƒâ€š ¥
    8. SHINEDOWN – Second Chance = 69.268 (- 0.177) =
    9. LADY GAGA – LoveGame = 67.484 ( 1.014)  Ãƒâ€š £
    10. JAMIE FOXX – Blame It f/T-Pain & Yung Joc = 66.509 (- 1.916)  Ãƒâ€š ¥
    11. YOUNG MONEY – Every Girl = 61.534 ( 0.793) =
    12. 3OH!3 – Don’t Trust Me = 60.072 ( 0.343) =
    13. FRAY – You Found Me = 57.765 (- 0.125)  Ãƒâ€š £
    14. LADY GAGA – Poker Face = 57.452 (- 1.529)  Ãƒâ€š ¥
    15. KID CUDI – Day N Nite = 57.376 (- 1.194)  Ãƒâ€š ¥
    16. SEAN KINGSTON – Fire Burning = 55.730 ( 1.406) =
    17. TAYLOR SWIFT – You Belong With Me = 54.682 ( 1.765)  Ãƒâ€š £
    18. PINK – Please Don’t Leave Me = 53.998 ( 0.833) =
    19. KATY PERRY – Waking Up In Vegas = 53.129 ( 1.442)  Ãƒâ€š £
    20. TAYLOR SWIFT – Love Story = 52.812 (- 0.407)  Ãƒâ€š ¥

  • Trina

    I think the difference between current sales for Kelly and what My December sold can be looked at two ways. Sure the sales climate was different back then, but she also didn’t have the kind of massive airplay she’s been getting for this era.
    http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2009/06/kelly-clarksons-i-do-not-hook-up-tops-the-idol-airplay-chart.html#more
    Look at the amount of spins IDNHU had last week, not to mention what MLWSWY is still getting. Her sales really don’t reflect that kind of airplay. Look at what people like Beyonce and P!nk are still selling every week. Sales in general suck due to the economy but people ARE still selling well with radio hits.

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  • Jolene

    Do we know numbers for all of the top 10 songs?

    OK, why not… Top 10 CHR songs for today and their sales (Highlighted number is rank on the Digital song chart):

    1. BLACK EYED PEAS Boom Boom Pow – 2. 183227 -15% 215886 2985513
    2. 3OH!3 Don’t Trust Me – 13. 79008 1% 77934 1948041
    3. BEYONCE Halo – 16. 66086 1% 65223 1425040
    4. PITBULL I Know You Want Me – 6. 106497 -5% 112211 1211183
    5. LADY GAGA Lovegame – 5. 123686 -1% 125407 928335
    6. SHINEDOWN Second Chance – 9. 90977 -6% 96413 1431882
    7. MILEY CYRUS The Climb – 18. 60052 -4% 62582 1813158
    8. KATY PERRY Waking Up In Vegas – 8. 98172 -4% 102022 754185
    9. KELLY CLARKSON I Do Not Hook Up – 39. 36631 -5% 38504 444469
    10. PINK Please Don’t Leave Me – 26. 47924 3% 46339 422358

    So looking at that, Kelly is definitely underperforming compared to her airplay. All the rest of the Top 10, save for Pink, are in the Top 20 in sales, Kelly’s almost 40.

    ETA: Oh, I thought Tess was asking about comparative sales for songs getting high airplay on the Pop chart. Sorry if I misunderstood.

  • HappyDaisy

    Tess said “In case anyone forgets we are in a recession and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty hard for a lot of people to even come up with an extra buck to buy a download.”

    Yeah, even Archie has only 4 cents in his I-Tunes account. :)

  • tinawina

    Yeah, Kelly is definitely under performing right now, now argument about that. Her album sales and single sales are going down even as the song rises up the charts, reaching bigger audiences. That is not normal. And she’s slipping behind her peers right now in album sales, even the ones with similar levels of airplay. None of that is good.

    But I don’t think its too late for any of that to turn around. A new single and a new round of promo should help things.

  • Aileen

    But I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think its too late for any of that to turn around. A new single and a new round of promo should help things.

    I completely agree with you about Kelly. I do wonder about even more promo. Kelly had the most promo I’ve seen out of any AI release and of course she does deserve it. There was SNL, Oprah, AI, every possible talk show, etc. The radio single, at least the second one, is climbing up the charts based on her name alone, and not because people are loving it and buying it. Other Idols get dissed with “they’re only selling because of pimping and promo”. It’s going to be interesting to see if Kelly’s third single will get the extra promo that she needs. Hopefully her solo tour will sell well.

  • Tess

    Her album sales and single sales are going down even as the song rises up the charts, reaching bigger audiences. That is not normal.

    I’ve been hard on Kelly for her “aw shucks down home little ranch girl” attitude for a long time. And now I am beginning to wonder if it is doing more harm than good when it comes to “electrifying” the buying public into purchasing music. Maybe I’m really old school but I really think that people want some “punch” both personally and musically when supporting a singer. Even if the song is great, people need to be moved by the performer and that performer needs to make himself/herself bigger than life while promoting their music.

    I know it shouldn’t be that way but I just think Kelly is overplaying her current schitck.

  • suebrody

    Adam’s (yes, I need to put Adam in every thread ;-) ) Idol S8 compilation album holds steady at #90 on the iTunes hot 100 chart. Not bad, considering that no music can (I guess) be officially released from it anymore. Wait till his *real* (yes, not the Hi-Fi one) album comes out this fall. Hoo boy.

    I don’t know what the situation re: Kelly is. I hear hear her songs, particularly MLSWY, all over A/C radio, as well as slacker radio. She has also promoted the heck out of it. Already Gone, probably my favorite song on the album, is the SYTYCD see ya, bye song (maybe they could release that next?!). And I don’t really see her “aw shucks” persona much anymore. At least not on her album cover and her two videos. I’m not sure what else she can do at this point…

  • lucy

    Maybe Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m really old school but I really think that people want some à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“punchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  both personally and musically when supporting a singer. Even if the song is great, people need to be moved by the performer and that performer needs to make himself/herself bigger than life while promoting their music.

    Actually, isn’t this just as much — maybe more, actually — a “new school” theme as it was old school? “Punch” is the word, I think — you hvae to have “punch” in some way to be compelling enough to get people’s attention. And that might even be more true in the ever-more-crowded media situation.

    By her determinedly non-sexy attitude and her hanging out at the ranch in Texas and such, I’m afraid Kelly may be leaving too much on the table right now. She may think that it’s all about the singing, but she ought to know that it’s much more than that.

    On the other hand, maybe she doesn’t want to be the world’s best seller. That would be okay with me! (then she could do more stuff like My December, which is the only album of hers that I actually like.) The record company won’t like it, though.

  • SashaB

    “I know it shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be that way but I just think Kelly is overplaying her current schitck.”

    Shtick?

    I don’t think Kelly is playing at anything. She’s never pretended to be or pose. Not everyone wants Lady Gaga or even Lord Gaga. Dave Matthews Band has done well. It’s a marrathon not a sprint. You’re more likely to crash and flame out rather quickly with the latter.

  • jpfan

    iTunes doesn’t sell many albums compared to singles so being 90 on their top 100 albums is probably around 1K a week. We’ll know later today if Idol Chatter releases their numbers. I’m not saying selling Idol songs weeks after the final is easy just that no one from S8 has really knocked it out of the park with their Idol stuff (and forgot about No Boundaries.) That’s just a flop no matter who sings it. It seems totally dead from that chart.

    There are alot of issues at play for Kelly.

  • Michelle

    Maybe it is the conflict between her image and the songs she has out right now. But I actually think it would work out better if the songs matched her image rather than the other way around. When there are already Pink, Perry and Gaga out there the last thing needed is one more especially if it’s a repackaging. I think people like Kelly’s girl next door image and if they can move her back in that direction *musically* it’ll help her stand out. AG would be a start.

  • tinawina

    I don’t think it has anything to do with Kelly being too low-key. They girl next door thing works for her. And like sue said, most people get their concept of an artist’s image from songs, videos and high profile performances (AI, awards shows). Though as I said before, she could stand to dress to better to fit her body type, but I’m not convinced that has anything to do with the sales we are seeing right now.

    If anything, the song is just not connecting with people and they need to move on.

  • Hazehel

    The obvious reason Kelly’s song isn’t selling well despite massive airplay is that it is not a good song. I have always maintain that airplay does not equal popularity. I get amused by people in somes forums going hysterical busily proclaiming a song a hit because it gets good airplay (I Do No Hook Up is one, Battlefield another), when the only thing that really counts is the sales. Now why radio stations should choose to play a lousy song (and ignore many good songs) is something that I can never fathom.

  • FolkFan

    Maybe she is not Katy Perry enough for singles buyers and too Katy Perry for album buyers.

    I’m not a huge Kelly Clarkson fan, but I like her, so I hope that her next single turns things around for her. There is so much additional scrutiny for these singers from Idol that I hate to see her struggling like this.

  • jpfan

    Kelly is just getting “old” for the Top 40 market where the core audience is under 24 I think. I agree the song is bad and so is Battlefield.

    Radio play is important because the publishers/writers do get paid for every spin. And it’s pretty hard to have any sales without it. So it’s kind of chicken and egg.

  • yeahyeahsure

    Now why radio stations should choose to play a lousy song (and ignore many good songs) is something that I can never fathom.

    I think that’s where the radio/label politics come in. That’s why some songs are played to death and have huge airplay even when the public is obviously not connecting with the song (low single and album sales).

  • tinawina

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not a huge Kelly Clarkson fan, but I like her, so I hope that her next single turns things around for her. There is so much additional scrutiny for these singers from Idol that I hate to see her struggling like this.

    Yeah ain’t that the truth. It has been weird to watch the feud develop between her hardcore fans and Carrie Underwood’s. They are both very, very successful by any standard, but apparently its not enough. One must crush the other for ultimate Idol superiority or some of their fans will feel disappointed. Apparently, there is no level of success that can be reached where the Idol faithful will feel satiated. LOL. And I though the David vs David fanwars were bad. Apparently, it never ends. Yikes.

    And lets not forget the music critics ready to pounce and declare her over, then attribute her “failure” to “Idol manufactured stardom” even though she moved beyond that years ago.

    Yeah, Kelly. I’m rooting for you to turn it around!

  • jonoave

    Chipping in my 0.02 on Kelly, from an outside US view. Personally, I’m not a big fan of Kelly – when she emerged fresh from Idol, I thought she was another syrupy ballad singer in giving the other teen pop princesses (Xtina, J. Simpson & co) a run for their money. When she went a little into pop-rock (Breakaway, Since U Been Gone), I started to take notice of her, at that time the market wasn’t saturated with female pop rock yet. I won that album in contest, but I and really liked it, and so did my friends who bought it. If I’m not mistaken, that was among her best-selling album to date?

    Then as she went into harder rock, she lost me again. I thought she came off trying too hard (Kara TM, bleh) as in trying to to break free from the Idol/pop mold. For me (for you), I thought the pop rock thing she did in Breakaway was the perfect balance of keeping her roots and breaking into newer, mature ground. I dunno, something bout My December and the singles that came off didn’t click with me, and with a lot of people that I know too. Plus in a sea of rockers then (Evanescence, Linkin Park, All-american Rejects) and also a lot of jilted-love rock songs (there seemed to be a lot that time, but I can’t recall now), she came off less than impressive.

    Her new direction, I call it the synth-pop route ala Katy Perry was a big turnoff. I liked Katy Perry’s first single, but I thought subsequently she comes off too “marketed, as opposed to talented” (excellent quote from another poster). To me, where she came off too headstrong in My December, now she come off too subdued/playing-it-safe/what’s-hot-now. And this is directly after her last album where she fought hard to establish her “rocker” musical identity. On a personal level, I find this a extremely distasteful for an artiste to somewhat sacrifice his/her musical identity. While I find MLWSWY monotonous, flat, cliched and IDNHU slightly better, both songs sound overproduced and catchy in that synth/dance-y way that’s popular now. I certainly wouldn’t put down money for her current album.

  • AC

    Kelly just needs to release All I Ever Wanted as a single and then it’ll be all good. I love Kelly but the problem with the singles she’s released sounds like a rehash of other stuff. Okay, so she is definitely releasing Already Gone next.. I think I read somewhere that the video has been filmed? With 3 really catchy songs out though, I do believe her sales would go up.

  • Trina

    Well I’ll say this, at least RCA releases her singles in a timely manner when they think she needs some help. I figure she’ll be on her 6th single while they still wait around trying to decide what to release after CBTM..*grumble*

  • jpfan

    The show allows people to jump the line in the biz. And they get the benefit of a huge promotion machine which even established artists can only envy. So they’re easy targets when they “underperform.” I think Kelly is exempt though as she does have industry and critical respect.

  • lovegoodmusic

    I actually think Kelly is doing fine and I’m surprised that dreadful song sold as much as it did. IMO à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I Do Not Hook Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is the worse song on her album and once she releases a decent song from her album, sales will start moving in a positive direction. And if I remember correctly, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I Do Not Hook Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was written three years ago by Katy Perry and Kara Dioguardi. So someone at RCA made a bad decision by putting a three year old Katy Perry throwaway song on her album. And someone else at RCA made a mistake for choosing it as as a single.

    Kelly is really good and she will come out of this slump.

    I know this is off topic, but I’m really starting to doubt Kara’s song writing ability (No Boundaries for example). And I hope none of her songs make it on any of the new albums coming out for season eight’s Idols new albums.

  • tinawina

    The show allows people to jump the line in the biz. And they get the benefit of a huge promotion machine which even established artists can only envy. So theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re easy targets when they à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“underperform.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I think Kelly is exempt though as she does have industry and critical respect.

    One would think. But believe it or not, I STILL read comments about her being a “manufactured no-talent reality show winner.” LOL. I think that kind of thing is somewhat fair for the first album coming out of Idol, but 4 albums in people need to get off her back already, IMO.

  • dusty

    AC Jun 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    I love Kelly but the problem with the singles sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s released sounds like a rehash of other stuff.

    Totally agree. I wish they would think broader for Kelly. She has more breadth than they allow her on her albums.

  • weareallinnocent

    I figure sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be on her 6th single while they still wait around trying to decide what to release after CBTM..*grumble*

    LOL While you’re probably right, I’m not sure going slow with DCTR and singles is terrible for Cook, particularly with his Idol finale performance of Permanent and limited charity release (and sadly Bar-ba-sol, which never got anywhere at all with its rock radio release.) He was “out there” with something “new” at least.

    The mystery with CBTM is that its sales seem fairly steady (yet not spectacular of course) and that’s with not terribly impressive airplay. Sort of opposite Kelly’s experience with her current efforts, come to think of it. (Not exactly, but YKWIM.)

    Anywho, I’m rambling… and ultimately agreeing that Kelly’s suffering, if she is, from lousy material. End of story, for me. :-)

  • Truthiness

    Kellie Pickler’s success continues to confound me, but go her, I guess. Didn’t like her on the show, but find her wackily charming outside of it (if one discounts her singing, and I do).

  • JohnP

    Congrats to Kellie on getting her third Gold. This latest is all the more remarkable in that for several weeks she has been second or third in Country single sales but way down in Country Airplay – nowhere near top10. As some have alluded to above, there are definite names rather than songs that are seemingly power-played by Country and other radio formats. It frequently annoys me when really good songs by less-favored artists are leap-frogged by relatively poor songs offered by the favored names. That’s why they get several #1s in a row – now one or two from an album’s era may have deserved such recognition but certainly not four or five. I’m sure you can name a few in your favorite format.

    Fortunately, Kellie can still get some exposure from TV gigs, but radio really needs to get its act together and play a fairer game. This is particularly so as, in the US, they not only drive day-to-day sales but also get a large chart-airplay component.

  • AC

    Yeah, I wonder what they will release next for Cook after CBTM. It seems like they would release something more upbeat? I kinda found it weird that they released the 2 songs that he had no part in writing. I think Archie needs a re-release of his album (adding in Zero Gravity and a few covers) so that they can try and boost up those sales.

    For Kelly, I love Already Gone but I kinda wish that she releases Save You instead. There’s just a famiarity with that song to the other Ryan Tedder songs out now- halo, battlefield.. Save You is still by Tedder but at least it doesn’t sound like anything now. that, or forget the ballad for now because as i said earlier, they need to release All I Ever Wanted. It’s different from what’s out there but I think this will make people take another look at her.

  • FolkFan

    There are two things with Cook that I think affect his singles timing: (1) While the sings are good that he will get HAC and AC airplay for any of his songs, he is not yet enough of a radio staple to get heavy airplay for a new single while his prior single is still going hot and heavy. This is one thing that makes him very different from Kelly—RCA could release IDNHU while My Life was still going strong, and plenty of stations gave both a lot of airplay. That’s not to say that DC can’t get airplay for multiple songs at once—Magic Rainbow, LO, and CBTM are all getting over 10 million in weekly AI right now, and have been since the middle of May. But looking at what happened on HAC for both LO and CBTM, it looks to me like RCA might be smart to wait until the older single has started to calm down before trying to push a new single. (2) His songs are growers, both in that a portion of the audience ends up liking the songs better after a few repetitions and that they don’t tend to lead to burn out that quickly. A few people have recently mentioned on Pulse that they like CBTM a lot more now that they’ve heard it a number of times, and I know that I had the same experience with LO. This tends to mean that his singles aren’t meteoric and tend to have longer legs, which again affects single timing.

    Looking at what is happening for CBTM right now, where it is growing in AI and sales, I suspect that there won’t be a new DC single until somewhere around the fall.

  • Sydia

    I think KC is doing really well, despite the fact that she seems kinda sad and bitter about her place in the music industry right now. Yes she smiles and is pleasant in interviews, but it just seems like she is going through the motions. I also agree with the poster that mentioned her not looking the part for her songs. Her videos are great, however, she doesn’t look like a star when she performs. Sound like one of course. She has a great voice.

  • weareallinnocent

    Good points, FolkFan, and great to see ya too! :-)

  • tinawina

    Yay, Folkfan is back! :clap_tb:

    In addition to everything Folk said, I also think rock songs tend to have longer chart runs. They take a long time to hit a peak, then they hang around a while. So yeah, 5-6 months between singles is not that unusual in that world.

  • Trina

    But what do they wait for? Airplay for CBTM to start falling or his album sales to start slipping further? Right now I don’t really think the current state of his airplay is doing much for DCTR sales. If they wait until the fall I wouldn’t be shocked if the album is out of the BB 200 by then. Waiting for older songs to calm down could be risky, because what if they don’t? WPLJ for example still plays all 3 of his songs at a decent rate. I still hear TOML on there. At this rate I dont think they will ever stop playing it if they havent by now

  • Jolene

    ^^ Yeah, WORD for everything Trina said. I get the “Don’t make his singles compete for airplay” idea, but I really hope RCA has the next move figured out and ready to go the moment CBTM peaks in HAC (Which IMHO isn’t far away, definitely before tha fall). If current airplay is enough to move 7K albums and 17K singles a week, there’s a question of how long do we keep at this rate before going forward to the next stage. So I’m not saying scrap CBTM, but I am saying they shouldn’t dwindle too long on it, definitely not as long as they did with LO.

  • tinawina

    Airplay for CBTM to start falling or his album sales to start slipping further?

    Yeah, pretty much. Until CBTM peaks, I don’t see them changing it.

    Last time I bothered trying to figure it all out, acts with a high charting song on HAC with a little bit of play elsewhere were selling their albums somewhere in the 6-14K range. He had been holding at 7-8K for a while (besides idol performance weeks). ITunes did take him off sale last week and returned the album to 9.99. I expect he’ll take a small hit as a result. Still, if his albums sales stay in that range, I think he’d be in line with his peers, and RCA won’t make any sudden changes in direction. We’ll see.

  • Jolene

    Can’t seem to edit right now, just wanted to add – FolkFan, it’s great to see you back here. Been too long. (:

  • suebrody

    I never hear Cook’s CBTM (which is too much like LO, IMO, and I like LO better) I hear ToML a lot (note to Kara: listen to *that* coronation song and weep). I thought Permanent would be a strong single, but I guess not the way it was released (and maybe it just doesn’t fit a radio format). I would have released Avalanche, which is a nice mid-tempo song. I think they are waiting waaaay too long to release another single, since CBTM is not what I would call a chart topper, and you always want to capitalize on success. Because ToML was and is still so popular, I thought Lie might be a good choice.

    As for Kelly, she has a few more tracks that would make good singles (they are toward the back of the album). I love both Already Gone and Save You, and maybe Save You is a better choice. They both suit her voice very well and are not *too* poppy. She is *not* Katy Perry, and trying to reinvent her is not going to work.

  • FolkFan

    Aw, y’all are too sweet.

    I’m not too terribly concerned about DCTR sales. In a week when DC was on vacation, doing absolutely zero promo, and all he had was radio play of CBTM and his two older songs, DCTR was still #63 with over 7K in sales. In this market, that’s pretty solid. Now, my guess is that, if RCA was concerned that DCTR was being hurt, they might adjust their strategy, but with CBTM still growing on his primary platform, sales of CBTM going up with airplay, sales of DCTR so far looking pretty stable, GMA coming up, and some good sized festivals as part of a good-selling tour, I’m still thinking that they’ll wait until fall.

    As is often the case with DC, I’d be fine with being wrong here—if they decided that putting out another single and giving us another video sooner would be a good idea, well, I would be down with that.

  • leome

    I dunno, I think August sounds like a good time for a new single for David and I don’t think CBTM will still be growing on HAC till fall. I could be wrong, but that’s a long time and the bullet at the moment is not that huge for the song to keep growing for more 2 months. I could be wrong, of course. And the GMA appearance sounds like such a good time for a new single.

  • sma11ie

    I thought Permanent would be a strong single, but I guess not the way it was released (and maybe it just doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit a radio format).

    Permanent wasn’t released to radio, and was never meant to be a single. It was just a one-off performance for charity.

    I think either Save You and Already Gone would be good choices for Kelly at this point. Her voice sounds great on both, and it’s time to remind people that Kelly can sing things Katy Perry never could. I liked MLWSWY, but IDNHU is blech. Already Gone seems like the more natural choice (sounds more like what’s on the radio), but I’ve seen with female pop acts that the third single is often a good time to whip out the ballad…

  • sma11ie

    Brian’s numbers are up!

    Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (10,000, 2 percent, 2.90 million total/210,000 digital total)
    Kelly Clarkson, All I Ever Wanted (9,000, -9 percent, 621,000/1,000 digital, -19 percent, 134,000)
    Kellie Pickler, Kellie Pickler (8,000, 14 percent, 249,000)
    David Cook, David Cook (8,000, 3 percent, 1.18 million/1,000 digital, -21 percent, 144,000)
    Daughtry, Daughtry (6,000, 23 percent, 4.47 million/370,000 digital total)
    Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (5,000, 11 percent, 6.80 million)
    Chris Botti, Chris Botti Live in Boston (5,000, 7 percent, 112,000)
    Various Artists, Hit Man: David Foster & Friends (3,000, 11 percent, 206,000)
    Adam Lambert, Season 8 Favorite Performances (2,000, -17 percent, 31,000)

    I’m pretty pleasantly surprised DC went up in total sales. I was bracing myself cuz he went down quite a bit on iTunes. I guess iTunes is not a good indicator of album sales when it’s further down the iTunes rankings (anything past 50, really).

    All in all, great sales news. Too bad Brian didn’t post their Billboard 200 rankings, cuz I’m totally curious.

  • sma11ie

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  • yeahyeahsure

    It looks like a good week for Idols all around!

    Daughtry, Daughtry (6,000, 23 percent, 4.47 million/370,000 digital total)
    Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (5,000, 11 percent, 6.80 million)

    Friggin’ amazing.

  • tinawina

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty pleasantly surprised DC went up in total sales. I was bracing myself cuz he went down quite a bit on iTunes. I guess iTunes is not a good indicator of album sales when ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s further down the iTunes rankings (anything past 50, really).

    He did take a hit in his digital sales, but he’s always been strongest at the big box stores. He is stablizing, and will probably start inching back up as CBTM’s airplay rises.Go Cookie!

    I cannot believe both Daughtry and Some Hearts are still on the BB Top 200. incredible!

  • Jolene

    Happy as well to see DCTR stabilazing. I was also worried because of iTunes. Logically I know it’s not a solid indicator, but since it’s the closest we have, it’s easy to forget sometimes that it only accounts for a very small percentage of total sales.

    I still vote August for next single (as if anyone’s asking me) but if DCTR can stay stable on the back of CBTM’s radioplay, all the better to prolong this era and make the most of it.

  • Aileen

    David Cook performed at two large festivals on 6/18 and 6/20. This probably helped with some sales. It will be interesting to see if there will be sales increases after well attended performances in the future.

    Kelly’s numbers are a disappointment again. It’s just weird that she only sold 1000 more than DC with all of her CHR airplay.

  • evanjane

    Because I’ve been doing the weekly sales for Kris and Adam, I’ve continued to do so this week, although it’s getting lean for both the boys. Data compiled from the Top 200 Digital Chart — thank you Brian Mansfield. (6/21/09)

    Kris Allen:

    No Boundaries — 8,000
    Heartless — 10,000

    Kris Allen Compilation Album — no sales total available

    Total sales week ending 6/21/09 — $20,220.00

    Total Sales from singles post-idol finale = $898,489.74
    Total Sales from album post-idol finale = $159,790.05

    Total Monies earned—————————-$1,058,279.70

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    Adam Lambert:

    Mad World — 8,000

    Adam Lambert Compilation Album — 2,000

    Total sales week ending 6/21/09 — $27,900.00

    Total Sales from singles post-idol finale = $581,961.00
    Total Sales from album post-idol finale = $319,680.00

    Total Monies earned—————————$901,641.00

    ________________________________________________________

    *does not include videos, ringtones, i-tune pass and singles/album no longer on top 200 digital chart

  • FolkFan

    Brian at Idol Chatter has gotten some specially requested numbers up:

    The folks from Nielsen SoundScan have been kind enough to provide totals sales for some of the albums and tracks you’ve been requesting. Since some of you have been asking for those updates for a while now, I figured I’d give them their own post today.

    Albums:
    David Archuleta
    715,000

    Elliott Yamin, Fight for Love
    525,000

    Jordin Sparks, Jordin Sparks
    1.02 million

    Kellie Pickler, Small Town Girl
    817,000

    Digital Tracks:

    David Cook, Light On
    959,000

    Kellie Pickler, Red High Heels
    513,000

    It seems pretty clear that the total for Elliott’s sophomore album is wrong—if he was selling that much, he’d be on the BB 200, pretty high up in the rankings. But Brian is checking into that and will likely fix it. Otherwise the numbers make sense to me.

  • Jolene

    David Cook, Light On
    959,000

    That’s the number I’ve been waiting for! So with 41K left to go, LO is slowly (slowwwly) closing in on Platinum. I seem to remember that idea seemed far fetched at a certain point… Go (almost) Platinum Boat Anchor!

  • unidentified

    Wow, Light On is just on the cusp of platinum. That’s really good, since so many didn’t really care for it when it first came out. I always liked it though.

  • FolkFan

    LO is moving toward platinum faster at this time than I thought it would be. I’d been guesstimating that it was pulling between 4K and 5K a week, but at 959K, that means that it’s pulled over 24K in the last four weeks. It seems reasonably likely that LO will make platinum by its birthday of 9/23.

  • consumedbywords

    Soundscan totals:

    55 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 9,621 9,455 2 2,904,627
    62 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 8,642 9,436 -8 621,371
    69 * PICKLER*KELLIE KELLIE PICKLER 7,752 6,817 14 249,070
    74 COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 7,561 7,369 3 1,184,095
    89 * DAUGHTRY DAUGHTRY 6,267 5,095 23 4,472,976