Idol Headlines for 11/18/09

FOR ALL THE DAVID COOK FANS…..

Today it the ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY of “David Cook the Record” release. It has been a rollercoaster ride from the get. Congratulations to DC&TA on a wonderful, exciting year on the never-ending tour. Congrats on a PLATINUM album and 2 platinum singles. Will be right with you for many more years.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH!!! well done for David cook!

Today it the ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY of ‘David Cook the Record’  release. It has been a rollercoaster ride from the get.

Wow, I can’t believe it has been a year – and what a great year! Happy Anniversary, platinum album that still gets a whole lot of play on my iPod !!

Thank you Joe Vogel. My thoughts exactly.

Maybe we should Adam in the People Mag sexiest guys issue into the headlines as well??? This is exciting, as it is so ‘in the face’ of the OUT fiasco–timing is perfect IMO

Joe Vogel nailed it, and I’m glad to see Adam read it (he tweeted it). I hope it made him feel better after the bastards at Out.

YAY, DAVID COOK! I hope 2010 brings even better things (like, say, sleep! ).

http://www.people.com/people/package/0,,20315920,00.html

Adam is #10?? Daughtry is #12! Yeah, in your face OUT. Funny that the Advocate reported it first this morning.

4evrmomof4
11/18/2009 at 10:42 am

Maybe we should Adam in the People Mag sexiest guys issue into the headlines as well??? This is exciting, as it is so ‘in the face’ of the OUT fiasco’“timing is perfect IMO

Say what? Adam made People’s number 10 sexiest people alive issue?! Another magazine I have to buy. lol Also, another good article from USA Today.

And–this is a shocker–Slezak loved Kris’s album. Never change. (BTW, I listened to it on my way to work today. Like it a lot. I have to admit, tho, that I am streaming Adam’s album again. Currently, WWFM is on, and this just gets me every time, it really does. Wow, so relevant.)

http://www.people.com/people/package/0,,20315920,00.html

Adam is #10?? Daughtry is #12! Yeah, in your face OUT. Funny that the Advocate reported it first this morning.

This isn’t a full list or the number on the list. the full list in in the print version so to base the number on this list isn’t correct. Because Cook and Kris are also supposedly on te list but aren’t in this small selection.

YAY, DAVID COOK! I hope 2010 brings even better things (like, say, sleep!

Amen!

I’m such a sap. I’ve been reading all the tweets being sent to him and the guys and smiling non-stop. As much as this year has been a ton of fun, the record release party a year ago today is probably one of my absolute favorite moments. RCA may be a bunch of clueless dumbasses but that party was one of the few great things they gave us. I’ll never forget being there as he was told he just hit #1 on iTunes and the excitement that erupted, camping out all night in the freezing cold for wristband, the donuts, hearing some of the songs from the album live for the first time *sniff* Ahh memories.

Kris did well on Regis and Kelly. Cute banter about going to the Empire State Building, and it still being romantic even though he just went with the band, not his wife, lol.

That USA Today article about Adam was so good, I read it twice. I liked this:

An animated bundle of confidence, humility and whimsy, Lambert chats excitedly about debut album For Your Entertainment, due Monday, and explains his apparent ease with instant celebrity.

I think that’s the most apt description of Adam I’ve ever read! And I really liked Greg Wells quote about Adam as a role model. He gets it.

“Strut (Like A Gay Man)”…LOL, HuffPost.

Here’s a scan of Adam’s thank you page from his album liner notes. An international fan got her copy early.

People Magazine tweeted that the feature on their website isn’t a ranking.

peoplemag: This list of #sexiestmenalive isn’t in order, save for our cover star – just a preview of who is in the issue http://ow.ly/Dnl6

This isn’t a full list or the number on the list. the full list in in the print version so to base the number on this list isn’t correct. Because Cook and Kris are also supposedly on te list but aren’t in this small selection.

Sorry, I was just going by what the article said, “See who made the list and then it shows each of their pictures”. It never says, here is 16 of the pictures and we will have more later” Maybe I missed it. Not that big of a deal but I was reading the print correctly i thought.

FYE got another radio add today:

CHUM-FM Pub 1 Canada-Hot AC Toronto RCA/RCAMG CTVglobemedia 1 11/18/2009 6:46:00 AM

Someone needs to frame Vogel’s comment and send it brightly wrapped to the Out editor.

Oh the People Magazine’s hottest guys aren’t in order.

Sorry, I was just going by what the article said, ‘See who made the list and then it shows each of their pictures’ . It never says, here is 16 of the pictures and we will have more later’  Maybe I missed it. Not that big of a deal but I was reading the print correctly i thought.

You were reading it correctly, but every year People puts up some pictures of the guys who made the list. But they obviously don’t put them all up since there aren’t all 100 pics on the list. One of my colleagues is obsessed with People magazine and she was ranting about one of her faves not being on the web list last year (she had the same interpretation as you) but then he was in the print article. So I just thought I would let you know what my previous experience is. And it could be that Adam is at that specific number in this years loist but until I see a print copy (probably tomorrow since that’s the norm for my co-worker) I can’t say for sure.

Congratulations to American Idol David Cook on the one-year anniversary of the release of your first major-label record! So happy for all you’ve accomplished during this wild year. Hope there are many more CDs and tours to come!! Looking forward to more Cookie music and Cookie crumbs!

oh – and congratulations to Neal Tiemann for playing lead guitar on that debut album released one year ago today.

Oh the People Magazine’s hottest guys aren’t in order.

Good to know. Sorry didn’t see Daughtry that high up and hate the pic of ADAM! Wanted to see Cook and Kris’s pics.

Someone needs to frame Vogel’s comment and send it brightly wrapped to the Out editor.

ITA. Happy non-Thanksgiving, you bastards. Hope your readership tanks. Adam is just on his way up; you, OTOH, not so much.

Adam’s liner notes are awesome. Note that he thanks his parents first. Love this man. And how excited did he look at the dancer search. *sigh* So happy for him (plus–emo hair! FTW!) So glad for Kris and Cook and making the magazine, too (which I thought was the case.)

BTW, Regis apparently announced that Kris had won the People’s Choice Award for musical breakout artist. Regis is not too bright.

ETA: I hope FYE gets lots of adds, and next week’s release of the album and the AMAs will give it a bump, I hope, but I still think that WWFM makes a better single. JMHO.

Best article of the week was the Huffingtonpost Article! Is it in the headlines? Anyone have the link?

CHUM-FM Pub 1 Canada-Hot AC Toronto RCA/RCAMG CTVglobemedia 1 11/18/2009 6:46:00 AM

It’s strange to me that Canada top 3 HAC and Top 2 Top 40 stations has added FYE. It seems Adam (or FYE) is better received there.

Wow, time flies! Happy Anniversary to Cook, Neal, Andy, Kyle, and Monty. And Joey.

http://www.mybloglog.com/links/?url=http%3A//www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vogel/an-open-letter-to-adam-la_b_361733.html

alaadam, here’s the link for the Huffington Post. So happy for Adam. Now waiting for Lyndsey’s review.

No clue as to why Canada loves FYE so much…

BTW, Regis apparently announced that Kris had won the People’s Choice Award for musical breakout artist. Regis is not too bright.

i saw that. I guess regis was confusing it with the Kelly award. That was funny that it was said that the Kelly award was like a giant stool..

Kris seemed to have a good time at John Mayer concert yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSh_sg7nqzk

Suebrody That link did not work. Did i do something wrong? Is there something else to click on?

short and sweet article:

http://www.thecelebritycafe.com/features/36087.html

Carrie Underwood and Kristy Lee Cook on this list too

Kristy Lee Cook. Haven’t seen that name in a while. Granted, she’s a very pretty woman, but is she still trying to pursue a music career? Interesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vogel/an-open-letter-to-adam-la_b_361733.html How about this, alaadam? I got this from mj, actually.

4evrmomof4, please tell me Adam’s album will be successful. I love it, but I hope those outside the Idol Bubble will as well…

Adam’s liner notes are awesome. Note that he thanks his parents first.

He thanks his fellow AI 8 contestants too (top 13 I think).

Charges dropped in dispute involving Black Eyed Peas manager and Perez Hilton

By Nick Patch (CP) ‘“ 1 hour ago

TORONTO ‘” The assault charge against Black Eyed Peas manager Liborio Molina has been dropped.

Molina allegedly punched gossip blogger Perez Hilton outside a Toronto nightclub last summer after the MuchMusic Video Awards. As part of an agreement reached in court this morning, Molina has written a letter of apology to Hilton, whose real name is Mario Lavandeira.

He has also agreed not to contact Hilton except through his lawyer and cannot carry any weapons for 12 months.

In addition, he can’t come within 100 metres of the nightclub where the alleged dispute took place and must donate $500 to charity.

Hilton, whose real name is Mario Lavandeira.

I don’t know why this makes me lol

Adam’s liner notes are awesome. Note that he thanks his parents first.

He thanks his fellow AI 8 contestants too (top 13 I think).

I think most Idols do that. I know Kris thanks, god, his wife, parents and brother. At the end he thanks the other top 10 idols.

Last year I’m pretty sure Cook also had his family first, and then at some point later he also included the top 10.

“http://i47.tinypic.com/2d77vp1.jpg”

Thank you star.

That is our Adam – sweet, grateful, with some “!” and one typo that I found (Allison Iraheta name).

Just saw Robin Thicke’s new mv for Sexual Therapy. Interesting to see how much nakedness other male artists put in their videos. This is why I like Robbie Williams, he might have nakedness but it’s always with intelligence.

People’s sexiest men issue is always fun (Johnny Depp is always sexy!) but I never agree with all their choices. To me, David Cook is very very sexy; Daughtry – not at all; Lambert – not attractive or sexy to me at all.

It’s all so subjective, but fun to look at the photos.

People’s sexiest men issue is always fun (Johnny Depp is always sexy!) but I never agree with all their choices. To me, David Cook is very very sexy; Daughtry ‘“ not at all; Lambert ‘“ not attractive or sexy to me at all.

It’s all so subjective, but fun to look at the photos.

Agree about the subjectiveness. I find Daughtry and KA sexy, do not find Cook so but can see hwy others might, cannot see the Adam sexiness but as always YMMV.

I don’t think any of the idols are sexy. Gimme Johnny Depp!

“I think most Idols do that. I know Kris thanks, god, his wife, parents and brother. At the end he thanks the other top 10 idols.

Last year I’m pretty sure Cook also had his family first, and then at some point later he also included the top 10.”

and im pretty sure archie thanked everyone under the sun… lol

find Daughtry and KA sexy, do not find Cook so but can see hwy others might, cannot see the Adam sexiness but as always YMMV.

Yes on Kris and Adam (AND JOHNNY DEPP) and Cook, no on Daughtry.

Anyone else still streaming Adam?

I think Archie probably thanked his 1st grade teacher.

Anyone else still streaming Adam?

Of course!

I kinda like this:

http://idolator.com/5299111/adam-lambert%E2%80%99s-fever-did-lady-gaga-do-it-better

Luv the double meaning meaning of ‘voice made of liquid mercury’

Maybe I missed it, but he doesn’t thank the fans.

Congrats to David Cook and Neal Tiemann for the entire of awesomeness that DCTR has brought us. I’ll be at their show tonight. Can’t wait.

I heard that Regis also mentioned Kris playing in Hammond soon and that Kris looked confused and said, OK. LOL he’s getting just as bad as Larry King. That’s my DCATA show tonight. Not that I’d mind seeing Kris, but I have my heart set on an epic 1 year birthday show.

Of the aforementioned sexy men, Johnny Depp has been at the top of my list for years. I’ve more recently added David Cook. Kris, Adam, and Daughtry really do nothing for me on the sex appeal front.

Maybe I missed it, but he doesn’t thank the fans.

Maybe because they are smelly?

grr wouldn’t let me edit…should have said, entire YEAR of awesomeness.

I recorded AMTV from MTV channel last night and there was a little blurb of Kris and Jim C for MTV.com. They were sitting side by side on a couch.

Jim: I’m here with the AI Kris Allen who has a debut album out
now. OK you have 25 seconds to sell your record. GO !
Kris: Go buy it now . It is awesome. Uhmmm….uhmmm ( he looked
at Jim and Jim shaked his head)
Jim : You have to do better than that, you have to sell yourself
better.
Kris: I don’t sell stuff well, man. I used to be a shoe salesman and it
did not work for me.

Both Kris and Jim smiled and say : OH SNAP !!

Oh, Kris Love the album by the way.

I just got a chance to read the Huffington Post “letter to Adam” – that was hilarious! Ha! Yeah, come on, Adam, you seriously need to step up your gay game

And kudos to the idols making Sexiest Man – that slide show is pretty smoking hot! But does it make Adam too hetero to be surrounded by all those other hetero dudes?…hmmm…

Since we’re choosing sexy idols I say yes to Adam (#1) and Cook (#2). NO to Daughtry and Kris.

Just completely random thing but my sister’s boyfriend is a DJ here in the DC area and he thinks FYE was not the best choice for the first single but Whatdya Want From Me would be a huge hit and he loves that song. So I’m not sure where things stand with Adam’s singles but at least from that DJs perspective (he’s pretty big around here, radio/club DJ)… well, I figured I’d share

Adam sexy? Euw. YMMV though.

congrats david! cant believe its been a year now..

“Anyone else still streaming Adam?”

Oh yeah!! can’t stop. Best new release in years from any artist, Idol or not. every song’s got something good to offer.

“Maybe I missed it, but he doesn’t thank the fans.”

He blew us a kiss. And, he thanked us all summer long on tour. Every night. At the barricades, the after parties and has thanked us repeatedly in interviews. I’m good. I feel very appreciated, especially now that I am listening to his kick ass album 6 days early.

He blew us a kiss. And, he thanked us all summer long on tour. Every night. At the barricades, the after parties and has thanked us repeatedly in interviews. I’m good. I feel very appreciated, especially now that I am listening to his kick ass album 6 days early.

Me TOOO!!!!!! Yup! I think Adam is sex on a stick too! lol

Love the Huff Post article. We need some levity today after all the craziness yesterday.

And now, back to the music!

Damn- that “thank you” on Adam’s album really touched me.

And this is the LAST time I will touch this topic- but after you read that, does anybody really think Adam is even considering going head to head with his management??? He is as grateful as can be for them believing in him.

And his thank you to Drake pinched my heart a little…

He is all positive energy!

Just completely random thing but my sister’s boyfriend is a DJ here in the DC area and he thinks FYE was not the best choice for the first single but Whatdya Want From Me would be a huge hit and he loves that song. So I’m not sure where things stand with Adam’s singles but at least from that DJs perspective (he’s pretty big around here, radio/club DJ)’ ¦ well, I figured I’d share

I’ll say it again, but I think WWFM is both very catchy (that chorus will not leave my head!) and much safer for radio than FYE, however, FYE will work much better (imo) as a performance, especially for the kind of show Adam likes to put on (read, OTT and smoking hot). So, take that FWIW, but I wouldn’t be surprised if (and I hope) WWFM makes more ground on radio, perhaps post-album release.

ETA: Whoa – brain going away apparently – went back to change FYI to FYE. Lol.

Maybe I missed it, but he doesn’t thank the fans.

Well heck, he thanked the friggin’ UNIVERSE, we are all children (and fans) of the Universe, thus he did thank the fans…

anyone read slezak’s analysis of kris’s album? not as fan-girly as i expected…

his favourite is I Need to Know and Before We Come Undone and is not so sure about Let It Rain and doesnt like the lyrics of Lifetime! wow thats a surprise cos even though Lifetime wasnt my favourite song, i thought it had the coolest lyrics of all the songs (but then again i’m a jon foreman fan so i’m biased).

I think most Idols do that. I know Kris thanks, god, his wife, parents and brother. At the end he thanks the other top 10 idols.

I didn’t read Kris’ note, but I don’t think he mentions top 10 idols’ names as Adam does. I know that because antd_ai is scorned that Adam was not in the note. Not any of that matters tho. lol

Does anyone have a link to Kris album cover stuff?

Yes, tierbee, your brother is CORRECT. lol

Can…he…start playing WWFM? I give him the go ahead. I mean if Elvis Duran and OHP did, then, why not your brother ?

Happy Anniversary DCTR. David Cook has done well! Can’t wait for DCTR2.

Last year at this time this is what we saw on iTunes:

http://twitpic.com/pzz2x

I didn’t read Kris’ note, but I don’t think he mentions top 10 idols’ names as Adam does. I know that because antd_ai is scorned that Adam was not in the note. Not any of that matters tho. lol

No, he didn’t put in their names but everyone is different. Even in the tour program it was obvious that Adam is a man of many word and Kris is a man of few words. But both of them do mention the other Top 10 members in some format. That’s my only point.

Where are the liner notes people are talking about?

…and FYE is being played in Canada because we’re cool up here! A friend of mine was in a record store yesterday and heard it on the sound system there. She said she thought it was ‘meh’ before that but it sounded a lot better in the store than on her computer. She is now excited about seeing Adam’s performance at the AMA’s!!

clearone,

here ya go:

Liner notes from FYE:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2d77vp1.jpg

He blows us a kiss and thanks many, many people!

I totally love FYE, don’t want any other single. He’s gonna have a tons of singles from that album I think, so we’ll all get our favourite out.

How coooool – two of my favorite Idols are the sexiest men, my favorite actor Depp and Gilles – a whole lotta sexy in that issue, for me at least!

He blew us a kiss. And, he thanked us all summer long on tour. Every night. At the barricades, the after parties and has thanked us repeatedly in interviews. I’m good. I feel very appreciated, especially now that I am listening to his kick ass album 6 days early.

Too bad not everyone could be on tour or at the barricades.
Hey, a fans mention would have been nice, but that’s ok. Each person has their own priorities.

Hey, a fans mention would have been nice, but that’s ok. Each person has their own priorities.

LOL, scorned fans!

anyone read slezak’s analysis of kris’s album? not as fan-girly as i expected’ ¦

That’s not fan-girly? Jim C must have set the Kris fan-girly bar very very high.

Just popping over to check the headlines. So Adam hates his fans now?

That boy is full of surprises.

I know leome. I feel very lucky that I got to go to a show and stay after to meet him at the barricades and express my own gratitude to him for sharing his incredible talent with the world. His fearlessness to be unabashedly himself is inspirational to so many people, I often feel that we should be thanking him, but that’s just me.

It’s true that a fans mention would be nice, but again, I feel like Adam has been very gracious towards his fans overall, so I do not feel slighted. Elated, excited, thrilled about the music, yes. But not slighted, not in the least. And he blew us all a kiss! Now that’s gratitude!

Me TOOO!!!!!! Yup! I think Adam is sex on a stick too! lol

My girlfriend calls him a “Yumsicle”! LOL

That boy is full of surprises.

Dear Adam,
You are not gay enough/too gay/not grateful enough/all of the above/none of the above
Please answer in a timely matter.
Yours truly,
A Possibly Scorned but perhaps Not Scorned Fan

Album review…

Former “American Idol” contestant David Archuleta’s new holiday album, “Christmas From the Heart,” puts the singer’s mellifluous voice front and center and wins over the listener with his original renditions of classic holiday music. Archuleta’s velvety delivery of “Silent Night” lulls the listener into a dream-like state, while the string arrangements on “Oh Holy Night” add to the intensity. And his Latin vocals combined with an urgent backbeat on “Pat-a-Pan” lend a more contemporary feeling to the set. Archuleta pays tribute to his Latin heritage by singing in Spanish on “Riu Riu Chiu”; elsewhere, the singer summons his usual pop style (while slipping in light sleigh bells) for “Melodies of Christmas,” a song he co-wrote. Archuleta’s vocal virtuosity gives “Christmas From the Heart” a timelessness that should appeal to his fans and lovers of the traditional.’”Kelsey Paine

THReviews

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

Only in Idol, lol!

I really enjoyed reading the thank you’s—he seems like such a grounded, sweet person.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

As far as I saw, ONE peep made a comment about it. Not even sure if it was an Adam fan.

Me TOOO!!!!!! Yup! I think Adam is sex on a stick too! lol

My girlfriend calls him a ‘Yumsicle’ ! LOL

Ohhhhhh! I want a Yumsicle! I luv that!!!!!!!!

Just popping over to check the headlines. So Adam hates his fans now?

That boy is full of surprises.

LOL.

Kinda figured Adam would make People’s list.

Kanadie Bonttell
11/18/2009 at 12:28 pm
Me TOOO!!!!!! Yup! I think Adam is sex on a stick too! lol

My girlfriend calls him a ‘Yumsicle’ ! LOL”

Ha! I turned yet another friend onto Adam this weekend and she kept calling him “an ice cream sandwich”. It was great.

GMA announces Adam performance details:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

OMG, they rented a whole theater for him!!!!!

ok so i wrote up the lyrics for Lifetime…been meaning to for sometime cos i couldnt find it anywhere

lifetime – kris

i wake up, put my poker face on
its roughly the same hand i was dealt yesterday
i stand up and stare out at the skyline
its roughly the same town that i saw yesterday

living does a comfort (??)
it takes a lifetime getting it right

it takes a lifetime of love i gotta say
to find my place in the world symphony
to become a melody
the man i know that i could be
it takes a lifetime x 2

i wake up and bandage these scars
the scars on my heart…that prove that i’m still alive
that i’m still alive
living does a comfort (??)
it takes a lifetime getting it right

chorus

the man i know i could be x3

it takes a lifetime x3 yeah yeah

chorus

Just saw that about Adam performing at GMA. OMG – just saw Kris yesterday and had such a great time. But can I make it to NYC the day before Thanksgiving? Ack!

Thanks, Ozarka. I’m always looking for your posts, you always have David A news.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

Peeps have already started standing in line for this.

ETA: A THEATER? THEY RENTED A THEATER? Well, that’s so there would be room for him and his band.

*wanna go*

Yes, tierbee, your brother is CORRECT. lol

Can’ ¦he’ ¦start playing WWFM? I give him the go ahead. I mean if Elvis Duran and OHP did, then, why not your brother ?

Heh, well, he isn’t my brother *yet* – he needs to put a ring on her finger first . I don’t know when he starts work at his new station which is more HAC-oriented, right now he DJs at an urban (is that what you call it?) station and however much he is now an Adam fanboy, they won’t be spinning it there. But he absolutely loves the album and if he gets a chance to spin Adam songs… he will. So maybe if you go to a club in the DC area… you’ll hear some Adam. Hee!

I guess Adam thanked all the people who were one way or another helped him in the process of making this album. They are liner notes for the album cover.
I went back and looked at other artists’ cd covers. Most of them have a few lines of thanks. Adam has the whole page.
Adam always thanks his fans. He will thank his fans when the FYE album drops and he will thank his fans during the tour. Adam is always grateful and gracious. All of us saw that quality during the idol show. He also twitted people to buy Kris album.

But can I make it to NYC the day before Thanksgiving? Ack!

some will be on line overnight. so it’s actually 2 days before Thanksgiving, lol.

SarahP, I like those lyrics. Maybe not the chorus so much but the verses were really beautiful imo.

And holy sh*t on the GMA concert for Adam. Nice!

vftw review of FYE, fwiw

http://www.votefortheworst.com/20091118/vote_worst_album_review_adam_lambert_your_entertainment?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+votefortheworst%2Ffront+%28Vote+for+the+Worst%29&utm_content=LiveJournal

another review.

http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/adam-lamberts-debut-album-for-your-entertainment-is-simply-mediocre/13072

It’s kinda hard to believe that Kris is singing “scars on my heart” but we really don’t know a whole lot about Kris and probably way too much about Adam (and I’m an Adam fan)…

Kris can just sing and reveal himself through his music whereas Adam’s life is sliced and diced before he even gets a chance to put his CD out.

And this is probably why Kris has always been so generous towards Adam, he knows that the media storm surrounding Adam is a double edged sword and not really something to envy.

The Millenium website says the Hudson theater holds 700. Wish I could go!

Thanks for the link to the liner notes! Haven’t got the best monitor at work so hopefully it will be clearer at home.

GMA announces Adam performance details:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

Peeps have already started standing in line for this.

In line already? That’s just nuts.

some will be on line overnight. so it’s actually 2 days before Thanksgiving, lol.

For a first come first served concert, I’m thinking I’ll be in line, oh, say NOW – j/k – let’s see, got in line at 4am for a good spot at the summer GMA concert, but I think that had a much larger capacity. Oh, decisions, decisions…

GMA announces Adam performance details:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

OMG, they rented a whole theater for him!!!!!

So, he is going to be on GMA on Wed. 11/25? He is going to be busy. He’ll be taping The Letterman show that afternoon for his evening show, unless because of the holidays, they’re going to tape Letterman Tues.

Go, go, go!

Geez I am starting to hate the “entitled” Glamberts. So glad I’m not one of them.

A THEATER? THEY RENTED A THEATER?

Isn’t it the same place Kris played? I know peeps said it was inside instead of outside.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

Well, I doubt any of Adam’s fans even care…. I know I sure don’t and judging from comments of other fans, they dont care either…. LOL

Someone mentioned before in the headline thread that they rented a theatre when Taylor played at the GMA. Maybe its the same theatre?

Oh God, that’s hilarious. The last time they did that was for Taylor Hicks.
The entire audience was filled with middle aged women. Not a single guy in sight. Too funny. Friendly and totally sincere warning – if you’re over 25 or 30 tops, do not dress up in full Glambert regalia. Go easy on home made Adam signs, Adam T shirts, glitter, etc. Trust me on this one. (extra warning if you’re over 50)

The concert is a week away. No one in their right mind is lining up now.

No, Taylor played in the Hard Rock Cafe across the street from GMA.

ETA: LOL jpfan. There was at least one guy because I spent the morning talking to him and his wife. And he was there by choice, believe it or not! Seriously though, there were only a few men in the entire audience.

Adam is #10?? Daughtry is #12!

Ugh – don’t think either one of them are sexy. Adam is goodlooking to me, but not sexy. Daughtry don’t care for short-legged bald men.

Michael Johns is sexy to me however.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

It’s not the Adam fans who are complaining.

Isn’t it the same place Kris played? I know peeps said it was inside instead of outside.

Kris performed in the GMA studio – it has a VERY small capacity (maybe a hundred, or thereabouts). It would have been an odd venue for Adam to perform at, though if you got in you’d be almost guaranteed to have kick ass seats (well, except you’d be standing). I was maybe 10 feet from the stage for Kris.

He’ll be taping The Letterman show that afternoon for his evening show, unless because of the holidays, they’re going to tape Letterman Tues.

Adam will be taping Letterman on Monday.

I just laughed at that VFTW review. So predictable.

And as for the blackbookmag.com review, I stopped taking it seriously after reading these lines:

You’re thinking this must be such an edgy affair what with his being a gay and all. More edge than a disposable razor. The edgiest in all the fair land….
In fact, you kind of resent Lambert for putting on this big ol’ dog-and-pony about being ‘fierth!

Homophobia is not sexy.

BeckyMD for posting awful reviews of Adam. VFTW hates Adam so that’s not news. Never heard of the other guy.

As far as the liner notes go, I think I’ll go read the morning newspaper instead of trying to find some hidden gem or slight in a tiny little pamphlet. I seriously watch Idol to escape, but I’m thinking I won’t even watch it this year as all the fun is evaporating since I discovered the blogosphere (aka the bitchosphere).

Slezak chimed in on the Out editor letter.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/11/18/adam-lambert-out-magazine-controversy/

Friendly and totally sincere warning ‘“ if you’re over 25 or 30 tops, do not dress up in full Glambert regalia. Special warning against home made Adam signs , Adam T shirts, glitter, etc. Trust me on this one.

Oh no, don’t spoil the fun.

Oh God, that’s hilarious. The last time they did that was for Taylor Hicks.
The entire audience was filled with middle aged women. Not a single guy in sight. Let’s see who shows up for Adam. Too funny.

Hmm. Yeah. Hilarious.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

It’s not the Adam fans who are complaining.

LOL – yes, too true. I want my personal Adam shout out, damn it.

I’m kinda sick of the term “fierce” but I’m not homophobic.

jpfans advice is good – unless you want to be on tv. LOL. At Taylor’s hard rock performance, Sam Champion did his weather forecasts next to a bunch of women from Alabama dressed like Christmas trees.

You’re thinking this must be such an edgy affair what with his being a gay and all. More edge than a disposable razor. The edgiest in all the fair land’ ¦.

This can’t be serious, can it?

vftw review of FYE, fwiw

Cool I love objective journalism.

adamaloha
11/18/2009 at 12:59 pm
I just laughed at that VFTW review. So predictable.

And as for the blackbookmag.com review, I stopped taking it seriously after reading these lines:

You’re thinking this must be such an edgy affair what with his being a gay and all. More edge than a disposable razor. The edgiest in all the fair land’ ¦.
In fact, you kind of resent Lambert for putting on this big ol’ dog-and-pony about being ‘fierth!

Homophobia is not sexy.”

THIS. VFTW review is not news. they’re just jerks, IMO.

CHUM-FM Pub 1 Canada-Hot AC Toronto RCA/RCAMG CTVglobemedia 1 11/18/2009 6:46:00 AM

Yeah CHUM-FM….Like I said before…We Canadians love Adam.

Oh no, don’t spoil the fun.

You’re right. Adam fans, Go For It. Although I think the Xmas tree ladies will be very hard to top.

I’m not making fun of middle aged ladies (I’m one too.) But adult women dressed up in Soul Patrol or Adam regalia can be a pretty silly sight. At least to me. I’m not here to spoil the party though.

sidewalkstory

Adam will be taping Letterman on Monday.

On Monday? Adam is performing at the AMA on Sunday. He is going to be exhausted on Monday, if he that’s when he has to tape.

I was kidding about standing in line now, BTW. KIDDING. Obviously no one is standing in line yet, but I know ppl will be overnight, as they were for Kris. I didn’t know that they had rented a theater for Kris, so my/bad on that.

If anyone expected VFTW to write an objective review of FYE, said person has no idea what VFTW is about. They knock people down w/out any qualms, and they mocked Adam’s homosexuality throughout the entire season.

Adam said:

Most of all, thank goes to the Universe for sending me this path I now get to strut down.

I think he thanks his fans in here. JMHO

If anyone expected VFTW to write an objective review of FYE, said person has no idea what VFTW is about.

The ugly side of humanity shows itself at VFTW. I don’t throw around the words ‘hate’ very often… well practically never, but I make an exception for the sludge that is housed over there.

GMA announces Adam performance details:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

Peeps have already started standing in line for this.

ETA: A THEATER? THEY RENTED A THEATER? Well, that’s so there would be room for him and his band.

Where did their tape Kris’s GMA? Wasn’t he also in the same location as Adam?

VFTW review is predictable…they despise him and everything he does…Don’t know anything about Blackbook…I have a suspicion however, that the mainstream reviews are gonna be pretty positive (they have been thus far)…we will see.

I’m so excited I almost feel like a child at a birthday party. A whole Broadway theater! wowser. I’ll be at a GMA viewing party this Sunday and I’m sure we’ll be figuring out how to have a good spot in line. Really, the whole thing to figure out is how early the night before we are willing to stand there.

Adam is one of the sexiest men that I have seen in a long time. Not only am I completely involved in his looks, I love a confident man that knows what he wants and is willing to go after it.

Hmm, you know, I don’t think I’ve ever visited VFTW. I think I’m just fine with that decision.

BeckyMD
11/18/2009 at 12:59 pm
Slezak chimed in on the Out editor letter.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/11/18/adam-lambert-out-magazine-controversy/

Someone else who gets it.

Slezak’s analysis was one of the best I’ve read, and I tweeted to thank him.

Congratulations to Daughtry and Adam for being in the People SMA issue!

Congratulations to Adam for the GMA concert! Maybe this one will be more than two songs-or they will show more than one on tv. (Maybe not) Either way, it’s exciting for those who live in the area or can make it to NYC to attend!

BTW, anyone have the liner notes for KA?

Where did their tape Kris’s GMA? Wasn’t he also in the same location as Adam?

At the GMA studio. Not a separate theater. (I have a post about it on the previous page).

Since it’s in a theater, I’m guessing we are going to have the dancers too instead of just the band! major flailing going on here.

I’m so excited I almost feel like a child at a birthday party. A whole Broadway theater! wowser.

You and me both, sidewalkstory

For what it’s worth, and for whatever it means (maybe nothing) Aaron Hicklin, the editor-in-chief of Out magazine, is the former editor of BlackBook magazine.

Dear Adam,
You are not gay enough/too gay/not grateful enough/all of the above/none of the above
Please answer in a timely matter.
Yours truly,
A Possibly Scorned but perhaps Not Scorned Fan

Ha ha! Well put Suebrody!

For what it’s worth, and for whatever it means (maybe nothing) Aaron Hicklin, the editor-in-chief of Out magazine, is the former editor of BlackBook magazine.

The plot thickens! This is really too good to be true. Where’s the popcorn?

BestAI
11/18/2009 at 1:05 pm
sidewalkstory

Adam will be taping Letterman on Monday.

On Monday? Adam is performing at the AMA on Sunday. He is going to be exhausted on Monday, if he that’s when he has to tape.”

I think you underestimate the man’s energy level. Adam pulls off incredible showmanship even when he’s tired. We watched it all summer long on the tour.

Listening to Strut right now. I think I can now safely say, in public, that Kara has redeemed herself.

Slezak chimed in on the Out editor letter.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/11/18/adam-lambert-out-magazine-controversy/

Someone else who gets it.

Slezak’s article says it all. While I’m tired of the whole “controversy” it felt good to see it put into proper perspective. Maybe now I’ll finally get over the whole “kissing woman= making out with animal” thing. Grrrrr

revcat
11/18/2009 at 12:46 pm

It’s kinda hard to believe that Kris is singing ‘scars on my heart’  but we really don’t know a whole lot about Kris and probably way too much about Adam (and I’m an Adam fan)’ ¦

Kris can just sing and reveal himself through his music whereas Adam’s life is sliced and diced before he even gets a chance to put his CD out.

And this is probably why Kris has always been so generous towards Adam, he knows that the media storm surrounding Adam is a double edged sword and not really something to envy.

I think this is a very good point. Kris has always said that whenever he feels like expressing himself, he’ll whip out his journal and write a song about it, versus disclosing it in a normal conversation. He has always been more expressive in his music, and I think he really makes himself vulnerable on this CD, especially on songs like “I Need to Know” and “Bring It Back”. It definitely is very surprising to hear lyrics from Kris that reveal a whole lot more than what we’re used to, because Kris is a man of few words.

You go, Slezak! Great article, very insightful one to add to Roweaiine’s, Huffington Post’s & AfterElton’s. I said yesterday that this may end up being a good thing for Adam in the long run. Maybe the gay and straight communities may come to be less judgmental and more supportive.

Hope springs eternal….

The ugly side of humanity shows itself at VFTW. I don’t throw around the words ‘hate’ very often’ ¦ well practically never, but I make an exception for the sludge that is housed over there.

and you know, that idletard site was even worse, if you can imagine. I’m glad that one’s done.

Dear Adam,
In every one of your next interviews, and every time you meet someone, your first introduction to yourself should be: “Hi, my name is Adam, and I am gay.”

So, what’s the deal when the first announcement for sexiest men in People left off Adam?

For what it’s worth, and for whatever it means (maybe nothing) Aaron Hicklin, the editor-in-chief of Out magazine, is the former editor of BlackBook magazine

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! It all makes sense now.
As for the other article- not even going to give that site hits, but I am curious if someone did go there- how many times was the word “frau”, “Madame”, or “sparkle cows” used?

Blackbookmag also was one of the first to print an article that Adam’s sales were tanking and he was going to be a huge failure. I think I’ll go with Spin’s review..

Dear Adam,
In every one of your next interviews, and every time you meet someone, your first introduction to yourself should be: ‘Hi, my name is Adam, and I am gay.’ 

“I’m gay. My other identities don’t matter”

What’s the story behind BlackBook magazine?

Adam will be taping Letterman on Monday.

On Monday? Adam is performing at the AMA on Sunday. He is going to be exhausted on Monday, if he that’s when he has to tape.’ 

6pm taping on mon eve. there are two tapings that day.

Dear Adam,
In every one of your next interviews, and every time you meet someone, your first introduction to yourself should be: ‘Hi, my name is Adam, and I am gay.’ 

How about a big scarlet G on all of his tee shirts?

And this is probably why Kris has always been so generous towards Adam

I thought it was the reverse, that Adam was generous towards Kris.

As for the other article- not even going to give that site hits, but I am curious if someone did go there- how many times was the word ‘frau’ , ‘Madame’ , or ‘sparkle cows’  used?

Sounds like a good drinking game to me. *where is my vodka?*

Well now, isn’t that interesting! Very’ ¦very interesting

I’m pretty sure this post belonds on the sales thread. And I’m not sure what’s implied. But sales and radio play charts usually have the current number closest to the artist’s name. That’s the format THEY use. I’ll link some charts if you want to see them.

For example

Last Week This Week name of artist info
LW TW

Slezak chimed in on the Out editor letter.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/11/18/adam-lambert-out-magazine-controversy/

This controversy is spawning some great articles, Slezak, Rowe and the Huff Post articles were fantastic.

People on twitter are talking about booking flights for GMA. This oughta be interesting. A Broadway theater is not Madison Sq Garden.

My sofa is already booked too.

Z100 has added “Whataya Want From Me.” o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

So, what’s the deal when the first announcement for sexiest men in People left off Adam?

That was never an announcement- fans just glommed onto it as one.
It was a “here’s some sexy guys” video only meant to whet your appetite.

Can I be a sparkle cow even if I’m a size 10? I mean, I lost weight recently so maybe I *was* a sparkle cow and didn’t know it. If I lose more weight, can I be a sparkle calf? I wanna play too!

Hysterical that my buddy Hicklin was editor of Blackbook. Perfect sense. Such bitterness.

and

4evrmomof4
11/18/2009 at 1:24 pm
You go, Slezak! Great article, very insightful one to add to Roweaiine’s, Huffington Post’s & AfterElton’s. I said yesterday that this may end up being a good thing for Adam in the long run. Maybe the gay and straight communities may come to be less judgmental and more supportive.

Hope springs eternal’ ¦.

I truly hope so, 4evrmomof4. If we can all have the dialogue without scratching each others eyes out, that is.

Rest in Peace, FYE.

star
11/18/2009 at 1:32 pm
Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

Holy crow! They didn’t add FYE but added WWFM? Quick – someone who knows about how radio works – is this an unexpected move?

ETA: jpfan, does this mean RCA’s hand will be forced and they’ll drop FYE promo as the single?

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

Rest in Peace, FYE.

LMFAO

Thank you RCA.

ETA:
Anyone want to take votes on which song we see at GMA?

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

And they never added FYE which makes me think that WWFM is the new single and FYE was a misstep that may come back to haunt them.

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

And I suspect others will soon follow….love that song….still believe that it was intended to be first single (safest, most radio friendly on the album imo) but they went with FYE due to AMAs….i predict, FYE will get a bump after AMAS and next week publicity, but WWFM will be his first true “hit” single

The photos on that People’s Sexiest Man Alive site doesn’t show everyone that made the issue. So in addition to Daughtry and Adam, I’m expectign to see Cook and Kris in there, since they were both featured in the previous preview of the issue.

suebrody
11/18/2009 at 1:06 pm
If anyone expected VFTW to write an objective review of FYE, said person has no idea what VFTW is about. They knock people down w/out any qualms, and they mocked Adam’s homosexuality throughout the entire season

Oddly enough, Dave Della Terza, the founder of VFTW, is gay. So, I don’t think the site’s dislike of Adam is due to homophobia. They tend to mock people who they perceive to be favorites of the AI producers and/or judges. They mocked Carly Smithson and David Archuleta for that reason in Season 7, and this year it was Adam. But the season is long over and why they continue to sling mud at Adam is a bit of a mystery to me. Not sure why they care so much at this point.

People on twitter are talking about booking flights for GMA. This oughta be interesting. A Broadway theater is not Madison Sq Garden.

My sofa is already booked too.

That’s funny because Adam probably won’t perform more than two or three numbers. I don’t think he will have time to rehearse that much because most of his time will be to rehearse for the AMAs. Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

OMGz with Z100 adding WWFM – I’m telling ya, very very radio friendly song. Though I LOVE FYE way more (just think it’s edgier, sexier, more Adam) – it was a harder sell being sung by him (if it was a Britney song, it would have shot up the charts like “3″ did.)

Ok, that said, since I think WWFM is more radio friendly, and FYE is a better performance song, if we get WWFM taking off on radio, and FYE promoting Adam and the album for AMA, GMA, etc. I will be ecstatic!

Not sure why they care so much at this point.

Easy targets are easier for idiots to hit.

Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

This!!! I just don’t undertsand what they are trying to do here?

My sofa is already booked too.

No, sidewalkstory! I should have taken you up on coffee yesterday J/K!

OMG this Adam rollercoaster needs to stop (ok, not really) because I was supposed to actually work today.

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

*high fiving Z100*

When can I start requesting it? lol (I have had no luck with FYE, and I have only requested it from stations playing it.)

I’m impressed that RCA moved on right ahead with WWFM. I’ve noticed with how they handled others that they have a tendency to hold on to their decisions be it good or bad and just letting the artist suffer the consequences of their bad single decisions.

Hmm, you know, I don’t think I’ve ever visited VFTW. I think I’m just fine with that decision.

You are missing nothing….they are disgusting.

And they never added FYE which makes me think that WWFM is the new single and FYE was a misstep that may come back to haunt them.

Not a chance in hell, imo. They made a MV for FYE, FYE will be performed on the AMA’s. I am very confident that FYE will do just fine.

FYI…Hudson Theater is not a “broadway theater”…they don’t do shows there…it is used for special events, awards, weddings etc…it is a bit smaller than some of the broadway theaters….so i would get there early if you want to get in (I’m too lazy)

I am just happy Z100 added something from Adam. I was starting to get worried with the anti-gay doom theories. With one or other he will do fine.

Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

Why did they have the curtain behind Kris during AI summer tour? Adam + the Jacket isn’t any bigger than Kris + piano. js

anovich
11/18/2009 at 1:40 pm
Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

This!!! I just don’t undertsand what they are trying to do here?

Half of marketing is perception.

ETA:
“Not sure why they care so much at this point.

Easy targets are easier for idiots to hit.”

Brilliant. I may have to quote this a few times.

That’s funny because Adam probably won’t perform more than two or three numbers. I don’t think he will have time to rehearse that much because most of his time will be to rehearse for the AMAs. Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

I think it’s pretty obvious why he needs a theater- to hold all the fans and provide the appropriate ambience.
They have been inundated with requests for tickets, outside was out of the question, so theater it is!!

WWFM still doesn’t have an official adds date on All Access or anything.

Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

This!!! I just don’t undertsand what they are trying to do here?

I don’t think it has to do with the size of the stage, but the size of the venue. No offense to Kris (and heck, I’m predominantly an Adam fan, but drove from DC to NYC just to see Kris on GMA), but he had a pretty small crowd yesterday. In fact, a friend got a last minute email from GMA out of the blue asking her to be in the audience, and she requested tix for Adam, not Kris. Some people in the studio for Kris yesterday didn’t even know him (there was a tour group that had just wanted to see the GMA show for the day, and hadn’t come out specifically for Kris).

I think the demand for Adam was considerably larger at the GMA site – from email requests, etc. Hence the different venue.

This!!! I just don’t undertsand what they are trying to do here?

GMA does this from time to time…it is the beginning of a holiday weekend…they are making this a special event…good for GMA, good for Adam….

If Adam performs there, it IS a broadway theatre. Goes without saying.

And they never added FYE which makes me think that WWFM is the new single and FYE was a misstep that may come back to haunt them.

Not a chance in hell, imo. They made a MV for FYE, FYE will be performed on the AMA’s. I am very confident that FYE will do just fine

But my point is that they spent a lot of $ on a song that radio in hte Us doesn’t seem to like. WWFM has had nothing attached to it and the biggest market in the country picks it right up and doesn’t pick up hte much more hyped song.

Melinda fans: can’t find any reviews anywhere of her show at Feinstein’s, which opened Tuesday night I believe.

please post a review if you want, even a few sentences! I’m hoping this is a wonderful break for Mindydoo…..

Isn’t it possible this is sort of like a CD release party for Adam? I’ve seen GMA do that type of thing before where they join up with an artists label. I know Kenny Chesney had a separate venue rented once for a GMA concert and it was on behalf of his label giving fans the chance to hear a bunch of new songs live. There are no major record stores left in NYC to do anything like they did last year so I can see RCA or 19 going this route. I’ve been in the Hudson theatre. Unless there’s a different area other than where I was I’d say it holds about 800.

Not that I ever thought VFTW was very clever or insightful (they always seemed like a bunch of whiney kids who religously watch a show pretending to hate it and end up contradicting themselves more than making any sense)- but occaisonally I would look to see if they had any interesting scoop-
That stopped immediately after that one time I looked in and they were showing the Adam-Nazi-Jacket “controversy”.
Seriously- when you try to insinuate that a Jewish homosexual is actually a Nazi- or “stupid enough not to notice what he was wearing”- which was another thing they actually wrote- you really have crossed the lines.
And I’m not just saying that because I’m Jewish. There really is a limit to the venom and lack of tact that can come out of peoples mouths (or anonymous-hiding-behind-a-computer-screen typing fingers).
So, yeah, never going to that site, and DEFINITELT not interested to know their opinion of ANYONE.

But my point is that they spent a lot of $ on a song that radio in hte Us doesn’t seem to like.

Says who? It took long time before LLWD got airplay, why so impatient now?

It’s possible that RCA might revisit FYE if WWFM becomes a hit. It might be easier to make an edgier song work on radio if they’ve already been accepted.

Melinda fans: can’t find any reviews anywhere of her show at Feinstein’s, which opened Tuesday night I believe.

please post a review if you want, even a few sentences! I’m hoping this is a wonderful break for Mindydoo’ ¦..

Melinda has really been embraced by the NYC theater and cabaret crowd…she has performed in benefits, is now at Feinstein’s etc…I follow a bunch of broadway twitter sites and they love her….so I think she really may have found her place as a small venue and/or cabaret vocalist

I’m confused now. Doesn’t WPLJ count as a large market station? It is listed as the number 1 HAC for the US, and it gave FYE 20 spins last week. That’s nearly 3 times a day.

Seems to me that having 2 songs on number 1 market stations is a good thing, even if neither is on both stations. I’m not an expert though, so what do i know?

WWFM still doesn’t have an official adds date on All Access or anything.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think radio stations can pretty much add anything the want to, it’s just that typically something is officially on the adds board, with an adds date, as a coordinated marketing effort by the label for that particular song.

I didn’t expect WWFM to be officially “added”, but was just hoping that, if radio stations and directors liked it enough, it would start gaining traction as a result of that alone.

Little OT- Evan Chandler- the father of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation, was found dead of an apparent suicide:

http://www.popeater.com/2009/11/18/evan-chandler-dead/

But the season is long over and why they continue to sling mud at Adam is a bit of a mystery to me. Not sure why they care so much at this point.

They mock basically everybody. They were still dissing DCook all last year. The only time they let up was when his brother died. Then they showed a brief moment of compassion. I haven’t been back since so I’m not sure if they’re still mocking DCook.

A little bit of info about Adam’s new band:

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1177/206/

Says who? It took long time before LLWD got airplay, why so impatient now?

Major stations were picking up LLWD a lot faster then they are picking up FYE. Z100 – the Top 40 station in the largest market – picked the song up before it’s add date. Admittedly this couldn’t happen with FYE, but it’s telling, to me, that they have not yet picked up FYE and have now picked up WWFM without the song being sent to adds yet. Many smaller stations/markets wait for a bigger market like Z100 or KIIS to pick up a song before they will. That’s part of what happened with LLWD and I think there’s a huge potential to have it happen for WWFM. But FYE was still Adam’s debut single off the album and it does not seem to have done as well as WWFM already is. And FYE is the one they invested a MV and the AMA performance in.

It’s possible that RCA might revisit FYE if WWFM becomes a hit. It might be easier to make an edgier song work on radio if they’ve already been accepted.

I’m not really seeing this. Wait till Adam does his radio promo. If things doesn’t pick up after that, then they have to think about things. No reason to judge the faith of he song before he has even started to do promo.

Ugh , Z100 added WWFM. RCA is really desperate with lack of radio play. But it is such a waste of arguably the best radio friendly song of the album if they do not official send WWFM for adds.

How do we know that RCA has not had, from the beginning, a dual FYE/WWFM strategy? Release FYE so that it gets at least some play etc. prior to the AMAs, Adam gets a big splashy production number on TV, make a video but then push FYE into the international market, and WWFM to be in US in support of the album…who knows..or maybe FYE will take off in the US in the next week or 2…I’m just blabbering…I need to go get lunch and accomplish something at work

http://www.timesleader.com/news/WHO_WHAT_11-18-2009.html?searchterm=daughtry

IN CONCERT: Chris Daughtry

THE SHORT WORD: He might have started out on ‘American Idol,’  but Chris Daughtry is quickly becoming a bona-fide rock star. The fourth-place finisher from season five of the pop-music juggernaut and his namesake band brought the ‘Leave This Town 2009 Tour’  to the Wachovia Arena on Monday, and they rocked. On its first arena headlining tour, Daughtry (the band) has more muscle in concert than on record, with a powerful three-guitar, bass and drums attack. Opening acts Cavo and Theory of a Deadman each played impressive sets to get the crowd warmed up, but the night clearly belonged to Daughtry.

THE SURPRISES: Daughtry did a spectacular, almost solo-acoustic rendition of Phil Collins’ ‘In The Air Tonight.’ 

THE CROWD: A Wachovia Arena official estimated Monday’s crowd at 5,000.

Photos:
http://www.theweekender.com/photos/Daughtry_111609.html

Seems to me that having 2 songs on number 1 market stations is a good thing, even if neither is on both stations. I’m not an expert though, so what do i know?

What I learned from this blog is that it’s not suggested for new artist to have two songs the same time in similar formats because they will split the spins and make it harder for either of the songs to make high in charts.

CHUM-FM Pub 1 Canada-Hot AC Toronto RCA/RCAMG CTVglobemedia 1 11/18/2009 6:46:00 AM

It’s about frickin’ time – had to switch to Virgin 99.9 this past week to hear it.

amiroamor
11/18/2009 at 11:50 am
Adam sexy? Euw. YMMV though.

Yup, sexy and HOT!!!

Trina
11/18/2009 at 1:46 pm
Isn’t it possible this is sort of like a CD release party for Adam? I’ve seen GMA do that type of thing before where they join up with an artists label. I know Kenny Chesney had a separate venue rented once for a GMA concert and it was on behalf of his label giving fans the chance to hear a bunch of new songs live. There are no major record stores left in NYC to do anything like they did last year so I can see RCA or 19 going this route. I’ve been in the Hudson theatre. Unless there’s a different area other than where I was I’d say it holds about 800.

It’s also possible that Adam will bring his dancers, too, and have more of a full concert performance than just singing with his band. Probably similar to when Beyonce and Christina Aguilera were on GMA — their performances were entire production numbers. They performed outside during the summer concert series, but there wouldn’t have been enough room in the small GMA TV space to do that kind of performance anyway.

Also, both the AMAs and GMA are produced by ABC, so maybe that had some effect on the terms for Adam’s performance as well.

mmb
11/18/2009 at 1:54 pm
How do we know that RCA has not had, from the beginning, a dual FYE/WWFM strategy? Release FYE so that it gets at least some play etc. prior to the AMAs, Adam gets a big splashy production number on TV, make a video but then push FYE into the international market, and WWFM to be in US in support of the album’ ¦who knows..or maybe FYE will take off in the US in the next week or 2′ ¦I’m just blabbering’ ¦I need to go get lunch and accomplish something at work

The only thing I have learned this season is that nothing is beyond the realm of possibilities.

leome
11/18/2009 at 12:19 pm
He blew us a kiss. And, he thanked us all summer long on tour. Every night. At the barricades, the after parties and has thanked us repeatedly in interviews. I’m good. I feel very appreciated, especially now that I am listening to his kick ass album 6 days early.

Too bad not everyone could be on tour or at the barricades.
Hey, a fans mention would have been nice, but that’s ok. Each person has their own priorities.

LOL, I never even noticed that he didn’t thank us, I was too busy reading ALL the people he mentioned, wow! If you follow him on twitter he keeps thanking us all the time. Including it in the liner too would be gilding the lily so to speak IMHO.

But my point is that they spent a lot of $ on a song that radio in hte Us doesn’t seem to like.

I dont think radio liked LLWD any more. They liked promotion and payola. A thousand Jingle Balls and interviews. On the other hand they like Britney, Rihanna, etc.

Just saw that about Adam performing at GMA’ ¦ But can I make it to NYC the day before Thanksgiving? Ack!

they are making this a special event’ ¦good for GMA, good for Adam’ ¦

Smart move on the part of GMA given the number of fans who are planning to make the pilgrimage to see him. Figure getting on line will begin shortly after his AMA performance ends

How do we know that RCA has not had, from the beginning, a dual FYE/WWFM strategy?

IDK – so hard to tell what the actual strategy is. I know this isn’t at all how things USUALLY work with new artists, but I truly find that WWFM is the safer, more radio-ey song, but FYE is a much better performance song, and will do a better job of creating an “Adam brand” from the get-go. From that standpoint, maybe there kind of sorta was a “dual strategy” involved. Who knows.

However, there really was hardly any real radio promo for FYE, which I can only imagine was a deliberate strategy from RCA (not that they didn’t want radio play, of course, but that they had a bigger picture in mind, were waiting on the timing with the album release, etc.) Again, though, who knows for sure.

Sure LLWD got picked up immediately by Z100 (and then by more stations) from the get go, but that was also because, in part, he was doing so much promo with Z100 and other stations.

It’s also possible that Adam will bring his dancers, too, and have more of a full concert performance than just singing with his band.

That would be really cool!!!

I dont think radio liked LLWD any more. They liked promotion and payola. A thousand Jingle Balls and interviews.

Umm, that would be illegal!!!

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

Wow. Not that is interesting.

I still say, let Adam do his radio promo and then we’ll see how FYE is doing. I honestly think it’s too early to tell. And yes, I do think they have radio promo planned.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

It’s not the Adam fans who are complaining.

^^THIS^^ – which I find kind of sweet in a way, that a non-fan would complain and the fans don’t mind…

I’m confused now. Doesn’t WPLJ count as a large market station? It is listed as the number 1 HAC for the US, and it gave FYE 20 spins last week. That’s nearly 3 times a day.

WPLJ is indeed in the number 1 market – NYC. However, WPLJ appears to have stopped playing FYE. They only played it once on Monday. They didn’t play it at all Tuesday or today.

What’s up with that?

Umm, that would be illegal!!!

Meaning Jive “paid” the stations in interviews, concerts, jingle balls, etc. That’s pretty standard practice. And Kris was all over that the last month or so, while Adam did all of one interview with Ryan for five minutes.

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=LAMBWWFM

Is WWFM going to be a single in itune then?

And I suspect others will soon follow’ ¦.love that song’ ¦.still believe that it was intended to be first single (safest, most radio friendly on the album imo) but they went with FYE due to AMAs’ ¦.i predict, FYE will get a bump after AMAS and next week publicity, but WWFM will be his first true ‘hit’  single

I can’t see how this would be a bad thing. Show some versatility. Get buzz going around two songs. … That’s if WWFM actually takes off on radio, of course.

It’s also possible that Adam will bring his dancers, too, and have more of a full concert performance than just singing with his band. Probably similar to when Beyonce and Christina Aguilera were on GMA ‘” their performances were entire production numbers.

That’s all well and good, but Adam and his band just formed and has hardly any time to rehearse other numbers, other than FYE. Their priority has been the mv and, of course, AMA. A huge performance for the AMAs would require a lot of planning and rehearsal time.

a review B+

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20320921,00.html

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20320921,00.html

Nice review of FYE (album) from Entertainment Weekly (leah greenblatt, not Selzak)

Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

I think they’re usually going to book a venue based on how much interest they get on their web site and in emails from people who want to attend the concert. Can’t imagine any other way they’d decide what to book, actually.

Re: the liner thank yous – he’s blowing you a kiss – what more do you want?

The photos on that People’s Sexiest Man Alive site doesn’t show everyone that made the issue. So in addition to Daughtry and Adam, I’m expectign to see Cook and Kris in there, since they were both featured in the previous preview of the issue.

Of course Kris will be in People Magazine. He’s the winner.

My sofa is already booked too.
No, sidewalkstory! I should have taken you up on coffee yesterday

Mary102,Do you have a sleeping bag?

Why does he need a theatre, anyway? His band isn’t any bigger than Kris’s band.

A theater will not even be large enough to hold the fans that will be lined up overnight. I was at Rockefeller Ctr for their morning show and there was a line halfway down a city block at 4:30 am. The day before Kris’ performance on GMA, the studio people were still canvassing for an audience.

Meaning Jive ‘paid’  the stations in interviews, concerts, jingle balls, etc. That’s pretty standard practice. And Kris was all over that the last month or so, while Adam did all of one interview with Ryan for five minutes.

Thanks Mary, thats what i meant.

Where are the AMAs held at? If they are not held in NY it would be an expensive venture (bringing in dancers) for just a few songs.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

After the firestorm that Taylor created when he didn’t thank his fans in his liner notes, you’d think that the PR people would be on top of that one. Fail!

But maybe Idol fans have mellowed.

BestAI
11/18/2009 at 1:29 pm
And this is probably why Kris has always been so generous towards Adam

I thought it was the reverse, that Adam was generous towards Kris.

ITA – on twitter anyway, Adam has been very openly supportive of Kris’ sales, however, who knows what goes on behind the scene, maybe they are on the phone to each other every day and Kris just doesn’t have time to tweet back at Adam.

Z100 has added ‘Whataya Want From Me.’  o_O

The Deathwatch for FYE continues…

See, RCA can push a single when it wants to.

jpfan: I can’t go back and edit now but my response was to the information anout Blackbook magazine’s possible tie-in with The editor from “Out”. I think I hit copy and paste and Kirsten’s post came up that was an answer to a question I had over in the #s thread!(I had just quoted her and thanked her for the information) I did not mean to bring that over! The “interesting” was not in response to the information about rankings! Sorry-I’ll try and fix it!

Fixed it-see my post below!

jpfan
11/18/2009 at 1:34 pm
Rest in Peace, FYE.

Oh no, no, no, FYE is alive and kicking here in Canada – love that song !!!

Quote of the day from the EW review:

nobody puts Glammy in a corner!

But my point is that they spent a lot of $ on a song that radio in hte Us doesn’t seem to like. WWFM has had nothing attached to it and the biggest market in the country picks it right up and doesn’t pick up hte much more hyped song.

Well, the money isn’t necessarily lost, though. They are going to market him in other countries. And Canadian radio already likes FYE, for example. So they can just use the FYE video heavily wherever that song may have more appeal. I suspect that won’t just be Canada, either.

Plus, we haven’t seen whether the AMA performance of FYE builds any public interest. Maybe it won;t. But maybe it will. If the public gets interested, more radio stations will get interested.

Kris got a #5 add in Canada.

http://addboard.mediabase.com/AddDetails.asp?sngcde=ALLELLWD

What’s up with the West coast adds?

Of course Kris will be in People Magazine. He’s the winner.

What does this have to do with Kris being in the Sexiets Men Alive issue. Many people find Kris an attractive man just as many find Adam attractive. Cook is expected to be in the magazine as well.

ITA ‘“ on twitter anyway, Adam has been very openly supportive of Kris’ sales, however, who knows what goes on behind the scene, maybe they are on the phone to each other every day and Kris just doesn’t have time to tweet back at Adam.

I think all the Idols are supportive of each other. Ther were numerous tweets from former Idols about Kris’s release and I expect to see the same next week with Adam’s release and again the week after for Allison.

Meaning Jive ‘paid’  the stations in interviews, concerts, jingle balls, etc. That’s pretty standard practice. And Kris was all over that the last month or so, while Adam did all of one interview with Ryan for five minutes.

I just read the following this morning, after the discussion of spins and sales. Its really interesting.

From “How Stuff Works”

An indie approaches a radio station manager or group owner about becoming their exclusive representative. In exchange, the indie will pay the station an annual payment of $75,000 to $100,000 per year (for medium-sized markets) for “promotional support.” This means the indie gives the station money, vacations, or gifts in other forms (often gift cards or American Express money cards) that they can use for their promotions, or for whatever use they choose. Because the “gifts” are to be used for promotions, the pay-for-play is side-stepped. The station’s part of the deal is to add songs the indie recommends to their playlists. These are called “adds” in the business. Most stations have an average of three adds each week.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/top-403.htm

Mary102
11/18/2009 at 2:01 pm
but I truly find that WWFM is the safer, more radio-ey song, but FYE is a much better performance song, and will do a better job of creating an ‘Adam brand’  from the get-go.

I can’t remember what day (or thread LOL) I posted it in, but this is exactly my line of thinking Mary102. I really believe FYE (the single) was about branding him at the awards show. Pushing the song out as the single was likely a last minute choice when he got the AMA gig, so that at least *some* people might have heard it by the time he performs it. Then they might just move on with WWFM. I love both songs, I hope one of them takes off. WWFM seems the more likely radio hit IMO.

For what it’s worth, and for whatever it means (maybe nothing) Aaron Hicklin, the editor-in-chief of Out magazine, is the former editor of BlackBook magazine.

Well now, isn’t that interesting! Very’ ¦very interesting.

However, I’m not one of those people that expects all good reviews.(Hell, an Arkansas paper gave Kris Allen a bad review.) So this review didn’t phase me. To borrow a phrase from last night, I wouldn’t go to VFTW ‘if you held a gun to mt head’ . Well’ ¦actually I would-because trading my life for something as silly as a music purchase or an album review would be rather pointless. It really isn’t that deep!

I dont think radio liked LLWD any more. They liked promotion and payola. A thousand Jingle Balls and interviews.

Umm, that would be illegal!!!

Not really. It would be illegal if law enforcement could trace specific monetary consideration to specific amounts of play of certain songs. But they don’t do it that way anymore. The labels offer *lots* of stuff to radio — to help them fill their air time with interesting stuff, reward their listeners with prizes, etc; all stuff that helps the station have a big audience for their advertisers — and in return, if the labels are lucky, the station will play the song. And they often often do — but not always, so they can’t get caught on a tit-for-tat thing that would be illegal. …. But just try to get radio play for your fledgling artist *without* offering radio any of this stuff. Not very likely to happen. When payola was banned, they just came up with a trickier kind of payola that’s very tough to pin on anybody. And jingle balls and interviews are a big part of it.

Nevertheless, they are perfectly capable of taking your consideration and not playing your song — that’s how radio holds onto its power. You *have* to give them some consideration, or you’re really cutting your own throat because others will be. But if they don’t like your song for whatever reason, they still won’t play it.

I dont think radio liked LLWD any more. They liked promotion and payola. A thousand Jingle Balls and interviews.

Wow. Somebody should have let RCA know about this technique. Too bad they are far too noble to do anything like that.

Stations aren’t going to spin something unless they like it. It doesn’t matter how many interviews you do. They won’t even let you come to their Jingle Ball unless they like your music (or you buy a ticket to sit in the audience). There are a lot of people trying to get on those bills. Radio stations cannot exchange short term payola for long term listeners. They have to play what they think people will want to hear. Can you get them to pick your song over a similar song by offering to do an interview? Perhaps. But Susan Boyle could offer to do 50 interviews for Z100, they still aren’t going to put her in heavy rotation unless that’s what they think their listeners want to hear.

If payola was that easy, all the labels would just do that (and FYE wouldn’t be getting a smaller spincrease than a freakin’ song that isn’t even a real single).

Since we’re choosing sexy idols I say yes to Adam (#1) and Cook (#2). NO to Daughtry and Kris.

The sexiest idol – David Hernandez, then Adam and then David Cook in his outfit from This Is It.

WPLJ is indeed in the number 1 market ‘“ NYC. However, WPLJ appears to have stopped playing FYE. They only played it once on Monday. They didn’t play it at all Tuesday or today.

What’s up with that?

Well, stations do that a lot — give something heavy play, then drop back. One popular theory is that they’re gauging the audience response that way — if they’ve already played it, and then people don’t hear it for a few days, you’d expect some call ins requesting it if the listeners really liked it and missed it.

See, RCA can push a single when it wants to.

Except a single written by David Cook. I wonder how they’re going to manage to avoid doing that for the next album.

*****
On another topic, I’m not surprised they (whoever they are) booked a theater. I always thought that Adam Lambert was going to need space and all the bells and whistles for his performances. It’ll be interesting to see how this whole thing works once he goes out on tour. It’s a costly proposition to haul around a stage show, dancers, costumes, musicians, etc., plus finding the proper venues.

Also, Adam hasn’t been performing anywhere, while many of the other Idols from the top half of Season 8 have already been out there. So, there’s bound to be some pent up interest.

A little bit of info about Adam’s new band:

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1177/206/

Based on this and the picture of the band posted previously, I think I’ve figured out who the other two people are in the band.

Okay, I don’t see Tommy Victor’s picture in the band.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/23467761.jpg

I think we have a winner!
Tommy Joe Ratliff
http://www.myspace.com/TommyJoe18

I think the Lisa is Lisa Harriton. The Smashing Pumpkins’ website does not list her as a current band member. Her myspace has “gimme a sec it’s coming” after “current Band”. And she kind of looks like the girl in the band picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/live105/888869947/

I don’t think it’s Lisa Coleman.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music…0and%20lisa.jpg

So unless there is another Lisa, I think we now know who is in the band.

I feel better now. I guess I’ll have to wait for the cd to learn who the session musicians are.

What the hell? Z100 added the other song?

I can’t WAIT to see how this turns out. Which one are they going to push? Isn’t he doing FYE at the AMAs? Is RCA dropping FYE after that, and pushing the Pink song? I guess so if they pushed it to Z100!

The mind boggles.

The day before Kris’ performance on GMA, the studio people were still canvassing for an audience.

You would have thought they would have drug in some men to fill the audience. I saw mostly middle-aged women.

Of course, this is what you expect to see on a morning show targeted at middle-aged women. Plus, it isn’t a summer concert series. The kiddies are supposed to be in school!

My friend heard WWFM on Z100 a few days ago. She thought it was his new first single and really liked it.

If payola was that easy, all the labels would just do that (and FYE wouldn’t be getting a smaller spincrease than a freakin’ song that isn’t even a real single).

It is that easy… that’s why I am left wondering what is up with FYE. There is nothing wrong with the payola, as long as everyone is playing by the same rules & knows the rules … which they are. This definitely contributed to Kris’s sales, but that doesn’t make it a bad song.. it just how these things work. How else would you think it would work?

Wow! People magazine lists Adam, Daughtry, and the Glee guys in their Sexiest Men Issue!

Kirsten
11/18/2009 at 2:21 pm
If payola was that easy, all the labels would just do that (and FYE wouldn’t be getting a smaller spincrease than a freakin’ song that isn’t even a real single).

Do we have the spin numbers or is that later today? I can’t remember which days are which!

I just received this email for GMA…wonder if you have to be on the confirmed list to get in?

“Finally, after a long wait’ ¦..

You are invited to a special intimate Adam Lambert concert!

The concert will be live on Good Morning America Wednesday November 25, 2009 at the Hudson Theatre in New York City!

Please arrive at the Hudson Theater on 44th street between Broadway and 6th Avenue by 6 AM on Wednesday 11/25.

Please confirm your attendance with the audience coordinator by sending an email to samantha.l.green@abc.com

Please respond only for yourself.

If you are attending as a group please tell each person in the group to send their individual name, email address, home state, and cell phone number.

Your response should look like the example below:

Name / email address / home state / cell phone number

Please type: Confirmation/Adam Lambert in the subject line of your email.

If you are a parent attending with a child under 18 please indicate the ages of the children (or child) on your confirmation.

Your confirmation information will be added to our audience database and make it easier to contact you for future concerts etc! You only need to confirm once.

Thanks again! We look forward to your attendance!

Special Note: You may still come to the theatre if you don’t send a confirmation. But we strongly encourage you to send a confirmation! Thanks again!

Please encourage your friends to confirm!”

An indie approaches a radio station manager or group owner about becoming their exclusive representative. In exchange, the indie will pay the station an annual payment of $75,000 to $100,000 per year (for medium-sized markets) for ‘promotional support.’  This means the indie gives the station money, vacations, or gifts in other forms (often gift cards or American Express money cards) that they can use for their promotions, or for whatever use they choose. Because the ‘gifts’  are to be used for promotions, the pay-for-play is side-stepped. The station’s part of the deal is to add songs the indie recommends to their playlists. These are called ‘adds’  in the business. Most stations have an average of three adds each week.

When was that article written. That New York AG that used to go after everybody (and then got caught in his own scandal) put a stop to that a couple of years ago. The record labels had to pay a huge settlement. I don’t think they do this anymore.

And if they do, all the big labels do it. RCA is no more likely to have clean hands than Jive especially since they have the same boss in the end. Barry Weiss got thanked by both Kris and Adam.

I have noticed that the topic of payola always seems to get a lot of discussion when one Idol seems to be having success in radio and the other is floundering.

Well, feel free to vote for FYE on the WPLJ playlist. I did.

http://www.wplj.com/playlist.asp

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009-11-18/peoples-top-15-sexiest-men-alive-an-analysis/

Michelle Collins strikes again!

When was that article written. That New York AG that used to go after everybody (and then got caught in his own scandal) put a stop to that a couple of years ago. The record labels had to pay a huge settlement. I don’t think they do this anymore.

This is mentioned on the same page or perhaps it is the next page. The entire article is a good read.

“I have noticed that the topic of payola always seems to get a lot of discussion when one Idol seems to be having success in radio and the other is floundering.”

I don’t believe I claimed that this is why Kris got all his spins… but please… so spin and jingleballs are a coincidence?

Well, feel free to vote for FYE on the WPLJ playlist. I did.

http://www.wplj.com/playlist.asp

And this is the kind of case where local listeners actually do call in and say, Hey, I heard this song on your station the other day. Could you play it again? I love it. That’s the way it works with normal, non-Idol music, at least! People who’ve heard the song and then miss it give them a call! If they find out that their usual listeners want to hear something again, then they will play it again. With Idols… well, unfortunately, it’s often worked different.y

With regard to the whole WPLJ vs. Z100 thing – PLJ is Hot Ac and Z100 Top 40 so they have slightly different audiences.

I have noticed that the topic of payola always seems to get a lot of discussion when one Idol seems to be having success in radio and the other is floundering.

I think there is a lot of history rewrites going on here. LLWD did really bad the first weeks and a lot of Kris fans were worried. Most of us thought it would still be alright and that it would pick up spins eventually. He did radio promo and, yes, it did pick up spin.

Do we have the spin numbers or is that later today? I can’t remember which days are which!

On Monday and Tuesday (so we won’t discuss the OHP which unfairly gave the advantage to WWFM), WFM has seen an addition of 23 spins. FYE was up 9 published spins on Monday on Pop and lost a total of 3 spins between Pop and HAC on Tuesday.

People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

Thats petty to me. But then I don’t read linear notes and don’t care if an entertainer mentions me in his CD cover or whatever. lol I dunno….. The things people get upset over amazes me.

However, that seems to be something a nonfan would notice….. I just want to pop the CD in the bop my head to it.

I have noticed that the topic of payola always seems to get a lot of discussion when one Idol seems to be having success in radio and the other is floundering.

Now, I know we all think FYE could be doing better, but isn’t “floundering” a little hyperbolic? LOL

GMA is going to look awful silly if they book this theatre and then only a couple of hundred fans show up. Wasn’t that the case with Carrie? They put her outside because they thought she would have too big of a crowd to fit inside the studio, and then not many people actually showed up.

If I lived in the NY area I would try to go, but I can’t understand why people would spend hundreds of dollars to fly across the country to watch Adam perform 2 songs. Because that’s all he’s going to do in all liklihood (that’s how many Carrie did and that’s how many Kris did). Just stay home and watch it, thn spend that money for when you can go see Adam on tour…I certainly don’t have the kind of spare cash to fly across the country on a whim…

Well, feel free to vote for FYE on the WPLJ playlist. I did.

The sooner FYE dies, the faster it will stop stealing spins from WWFM which looks to be the real single that RCA wants to push.

I think there was an internal power struggle about the single and RCA wasn’t going to push FYE.

RT @LambritsUK: http://twitpic.com/q01ef – Spoiler – Preview of images from @adamlambert new album Four Your Entertainment how fabulous!!!

Pictures from CD !

unique28v
11/18/2009 at 2:37 pm
People are upset he didn’t specifically thank the fans in his linear notes?

It wasn’t an Adam fan that brought it up, it was a David Cook fan.

The sooner FYE dies, the faster it will stop stealing spins from WWFM which looks to be the real single that RCA wants to push.

I think there was an internal power struggle about the single and RCA wasn’t going to push FYE.

Why is splitting spins any more likely than the ‘payola’? With this logic, it would be on the song’s merit, not the side promo with = $$.

Kris went to John Mayer’s concert last night. Someone even filmed him singing along to one of Mayer’s songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSh_sg7nqzk&feature=player_embedded

Now, I know we all think FYE could be doing better, but isn’t ‘floundering’  a little hyperbolic? LOL

Nope. You should see what they are saying over at Pulse (and they watch radio singles pretty closely).

No manual adds for FYE this week. No new spins today (and decreasing spins on HAC). This is the third week post adds. And now DJ’s are picking some other song that isn’t even a released single to play? Now, Z100, the most influential Pop station in the country adds the other song?

This boat is taking on water and the pumps are working over time.

Not everything works as a single on the radio. Lots of great songs just aren’t meant for radio. Nothing wrong with that.

No sense wasting promo opportunities on a dog that won’t hunt.

The sooner FYE dies, the faster it will stop stealing spins from WWFM which looks to be the real single that RCA wants to push.

I think there was an internal power struggle about the single and RCA wasn’t going to push FYE.

I dont even know where to start on this. I think this is pretty much fantasy…

Hey, but maybe FYE was, you know, too gay-gay?

girlygirl
11/18/2009 at 2:39 pm
GMA is going to look awful silly if they book this theatre and then only a couple of hundred fans show up.

I’ve been to a few tapings before, the last one was the Elton John-Diana Krall filming at the Apollo Theater for Elvis Costello’s TV show. They keep part of the theater darkened or roped off, and only open it up if there is a need to. I don’t think there will be any issue. They’ll have an estimate based on the emails they are sending out to those that already requested tickets, and will open more seats as necessary.

IMHO Any of you doubters and downers get ready to be “BITCH” slapped after the AMA”S NGL

If it isn’t one thing it’s another to hang Adam up by his fingernails about. I don’t even read lining notes to care who has been thanked. He thanked fans in many other outlets, this is just petty nitpicking

GMA is going to look awful silly if they book this theatre and then only a couple of hundred fans show up. Wasn’t that the case with Carrie? They put her outside because they thought she would have too big of a crowd to fit inside the studio, and then not many people actually showed up.

I would imagine they’ve already gauged the interest in the concert prior to booking the theater. On the GMA site when the concerts were announced there was an email address and contact information to request tickets. I also think that if people want to spend their money, it’s pretty much their business, isn’t it? Besides, we don’t know how many songs he’ll sing. We know that Monte Pittman was rehearsing TFM, they’ve released FYE and WWFM is out there now too. Just because Kris only sang two, doesn’t mean Adam will. Especially since the venues and announcements seem to be different.

Why is splitting spins any more likely than the ‘payola’? With this logic, it would be on the song’s merit, not the side promo with = $$.

Payola in it’s many forms happens. But all the majors do it so it comes out in the wash. It hinders the indies. And all the payola in the world won’t get the radio stations to play something they think the listeners don’t want to hear. That would be daft.

Splitting is normal. If you give people a choice, somebody will like one song more than another. Radio stations are too conservative to play two songs from one artist with no radio track record so they will pick the one they like. That will split spins and make it harder to get up the chart into a position where you get attention from others stations. 1000 spins for one song will get you to top 40. 500 spins for each of two songs will keep you mired in the basement.

If it isn’t one thing it’s another to hang Adam up by his fingernails about. I don’t even read lining notes to care who has been thanked. He thanked fans in many other outlets, this is just petty nitpicking

Exactly!!! Some people will look at every little thing just looking for something to complain about. You just can’t worry about those types.

HDD – 70-80K for Kris

I can’t remember what day (or thread LOL) I posted it in, but this is exactly my line of thinking Mary102

LOL – I think I stole your idea, rowenaaine I remember reading that from you, and, while I don’t know for certain if this was the ACTUAL strategy, I stand by my assessment for now that FYE is a much better branding/performance song, but WWFM is an easier radio sell.

Mary102,Do you have a sleeping bag?

Yes, yes I do. I may be in touch with you, sidewalkstory

Judging from the kris/adam/cook summer concert, my best guess is that adam will sing 3 or 4 songs…2 on air, and the other 1 or 2 will be available on the website…he will sing FYE, WWFM and TfM and maybe one other

GMA theater size isn’t a big deal…the wonders of TV made even the Idol studio look huge. :0)

GMA is going to look awful silly if they book this theatre and then only a couple of hundred fans show up. Wasn’t that the case with Carrie? They put her outside because they thought she would have too big of a crowd to fit inside the studio, and then not many people actually showed up.

They didn’t advertise that her concert was going to be outside at all so no, I don’t think they put her outside because they thought she would have too big of a crowd. To some extent the staging is just to make it seem like more of an event. Carrie did 3 songs not 2 (Cowboy Casanova, Last Name, and Before He Cheats as a web exclusive). Her crowd wasn’t huge but it looked to me like it filled up the space they made available. She’s definitely no Miley or JoBros or whatever and she doesn’t inspire the kind of intense, fly across the country or get up that early in the morning for a couple of songs fandom that some acts do. Plus it was known she would be performing on GMA again the next week in Nashville – where she and Brad Paisley drew a much bigger crowd.

I think RCA would be very smart to drop FYE for WWFM since Top 40 seems more receptive to it. Yes there’s some wasted money with the FYE video but the FYE performance at the AMAs is still album promotion and it’s a better performance song than WWFM. I’ve never liked FYE and as for WWFM – it’s an earworm but it sounds more like a Pink song than an indisputably Adam song. It’s “safe” so it’s not a surprise radio would prefer that so it’s probably a better single choice.

THE SURPRISES: Daughtry did a spectacular, almost solo-acoustic rendition of Phil Collins’ ‘In The Air Tonight.’ 

Wow!! I absolutely loved that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJVG3DKXRA

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20320921,00.html?page=3

B+ is a pretty good score, yes? They give Rihanna’s B and Shakira’s A-. I remember they gave Kris’ B-.

Payola in it’s many forms happens. But all the majors do it so it comes out in the wash. It hinders the indies. And all the payola in the world won’t get the radio stations to play something they think the listeners don’t want to hear. That would be daft.

Splitting is normal. If you give people a choice, somebody will like one song more than another. Radio stations are too conservative to play two songs from one artist with no radio track record so they will pick the one they like. That will split spins and make it harder to get up the chart into a position where you get attention from others stations. 1000 spins for one song will get you to top 40. 500 spins for each of two songs will keep you mired in the basement.

EXACTLY the payola exists for spins and stations don’t really want 2 single. I too think that FYE has become the red-headed stepchild.

Shakira got a A- ?

I think there is a lot of history rewrites going on here. LLWD did really bad the first weeks and a lot of Kris fans were worried. Most of us thought it would still be alright and that it would pick up spins eventually. He did radio promo and, yes, it did pick up spin.

I think there are some differences between LLWD and FYE. I wouldn’t say that LLWD performed poorly in it’s initial weeks, it moved up the chartl slowly, as FYE has done, but it had some things in its favor that FYE doesn’t. It was backed by the top pop station in the country, maintained a much bigger and positive bullet than FYE has, Did well during test spins and radio station challanges, and it never saw an add day like FYE had on Monday and Tuesday.

I don’t remember, but I wonder if the vast majority of LLWD spins, during the first three weeks, took place between 12 am-6am, which is what is happening with FYE.

HDD is predicting 75,000-80,000 for Kris’ album — well below John Mayer, Norah Jones and Justin Bieber, but above Leona Lewis

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07840m01

I would love to go to the GMA show but the day before TG is tough. I’m sure a few New Yorkers will fill the venue for him.

But the season is long over and why they continue to sling mud at Adam is a bit of a mystery to me. Not sure why they care so much at this point.

VFTW truely hates Adam. The way they twisted the OUT magazine article to make Adam seem like a self-hating gay is amazing. I honestly think its because the show and media have embraced Adam. They don’t like his voice/entertainment style so they hope he fails to prove everyone wrong. Its kind of ironic though because they make fun of OTT fans, when they are even more OTT themselves. Its just that they sprew hate.

HDD ‘“ 70-80K for Kris

About what a lot of people expected.

Rough week. The other two Idol related acts (Simon’s protege and often Idol collab Tedder’s band): Leona’s expected to pull in 60-65K which is a big drop from her previous album. OneRepublic is aiming for 40-45K.

Has anyone else received an email from AO, saying that Adam’s CD shipped today?

I got one a few hours ago, along with a tracking number.

I’m wondering if there’s a possibility that it could get here by Friday…

…or do they direct the post office to hold certain items until certain days?

HDD ‘“ 70-80K for Kris

Wasn’t Jive expecting 75k for Allison?
yeah, those are really low numbers, but I think they were expected after what LLWD did.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20320921,00.html?page=3

B+ is a pretty good score, yes? They give Rihanna’s B and Shakira’s A-. I remember they gave Kris’ B-.

They gave FYE a really nice review…i am always more interested in the write up than the letter “grade”…but a B+ for an idol debut album is pretty darn good

Mary102
11/18/2009 at 2:50 pm
I can’t remember what day (or thread LOL) I posted it in, but this is exactly my line of thinking Mary102

LOL ‘“ I think I stole your idea, rowenaaine I remember reading that from you, and, while I don’t know for certain if this was the ACTUAL strategy, I stand by my assessment for now that FYE is a much better branding/performance song, but WWFM is an easier radio sell.

Stole – nah! I’m more inclined to say “great minds think alike”! Happy we’re on the same wavelength.

Mary102,Do you have a sleeping bag?

Yes, yes I do. I may be in touch with you, sidewalkstory

Ladies, I’m *supposed* to be driving down to North Carolina that day…maybe I could manage to go the city in the wee hours and have my hubby swing by the theater and pick me up on the way down! (Oh, I’m sure he’d just love that…)

I really, really don’t understand what’s going on with Adam’s single at all. If it weren’t for the AMA performance and the video I would have just chalked it up to RCA scrapping FYE and deciding that WWFM was the better shot. But those two things are such huge boosters that it seems like a huge waste – why have him perform and make a video for one song when it’s the other you’re gonna push to radio?

And Leona’s numbers surprise me but especially the numbers for Leona, considering that her CD was actually going for $4 at some places.

For what it’s worth, and for whatever it means (maybe nothing) Aaron Hicklin, the editor-in-chief of Out magazine, is the former editor of BlackBook magazine.

Well now, isn’t that interesting! Very’ ¦very interesting.

Yeah, you know what’s even more interesting. That guy from BlackBook who wrote the “review” of FYE, Rohin Guha, is the site’s Pop Culture writer. He doesn’t review music. Oh, occasionally he gives a personal opinion here and there on some single or a few cuts of an album, but I scrolled back two months and had he ever actually written a formal review of an album and rated it on some one-to-five star system during that time? Umm, NO.

Interesting that he’s now suddenly elevated himself to the status of Music Critic and for the first time in two (or more) months actually reviewed an album … Adam’s album, that is. I guess no other music was released during that time so he had nothing else to listen to. Or maybe his new job promotion became effective, like, yesterday.

Of course, he has been busy writing. Not long ago he wrote an article that was extremely snarky and critical of Adam’s Details shoot. In fact, his comments sounded a lot like Hicklin’s …. hmmm

Wasn’t Jive expecting 75k for Allison?
yeah, those are really low numbers, but I think they were expected after what LLWD did.

I just think it is going to be a tough year for everyone in the biz.

Just because Kris only sang two, doesn’t mean Adam will. Especially since the venues and announcements seem to be different.

Carrie also only sang 2 and she’s way more established then Adam at this point. Just because it’s a big venue doesn’t change things. Carrie had one of the outdoor concerts.

Not to nitpick here, but HDD is predicting 75000-80000 for Kris (NOT 70000-80000)

HDD is predicting 75,000-80,000 for Kris’ album ‘” well below John Mayer, Norah Jones and Justin Bieber, but above Leona Lewis

Thats good! Almost 100,000 and it could turn out to be that before its all done with. How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

Yippee! Just got my GMA email-can’t wait to get home to confirm!!!!

BestAI
11/18/2009 at 1:29 pm
And this is probably why Kris has always been so generous towards Adam

I thought it was the reverse, that Adam was generous towards Kris.

I was referring to the fact that Adam’s name is always out there and sometimes the publicity overshadows Kris who was of course the winner, however Kris just takes it in his stride and does his thing which I think says a lot about Kris. Adam has also been generous towards Kris by always saying nice things about him and tweeting about Kris’s single and CD, so it is a two way street, but a lesser person than Kris would be peeved at the constant references to Adam during Kris’s interviews, etc.

Wasn’t Jive expecting 75k for Allison?
yeah, those are really low numbers, but I think they were expected after what LLWD did.

Source? I think based on how FIBOU is doing, unless the New Moon thing makes a ridiculous impact I’m thinking realistic expectation should be around 50K.

I don’t remember, but I wonder if the vast majority of LLWD spins, during the first three weeks, took place between 12 am-6am, which is what is happening with FYE.

Well, yes, I remember people her mmumbling about that. Also Kris didn’t pick up spin before he started to do promo as far as I remember. Fans were annoyed bc not even the station he premiered on played it in the beginning.

When they rented the Hard Rock for Taylor, he did two songs. Runaround and Just to Feel that Way.

ETA: Oh wait, he also did Dream Myself Awake, so he did three total.

Another album review…

‘Tis the season where I prepare myself to do many blogs on Christmas releases ‘“ movies, music, books ‘“ but allow me to start a bit early by talking about my favorite Star Search alum and American Idol Season 7 sweetheart, David Archuleta. What a talent he is ‘“ sweet, cuddly, and his smooth, young voice is always rewarding to listen to on a really bad day. I will never forget his rendition of John Lennon’s ‘Imagine’  on American Idol ‘“ it made me cry and feel a sense of passion that I do not often feel for cover songs. He is young and charming ‘“ what a character.

Listening to his Christmas album is no different ‘“ in the spirit of the holidays I always love to feel the ‘warm fuzzies’  and drink a good cup of hot chocolate in front of the fire. His release ‘Christmas from the Heart’  is one I would recommend anybody to use for a good Christmas party or a cuddle session with a lover on a snowy night. This is David Archuleta doing his finest covers ‘“ from ‘Joy to the World’  to the tear-inducing ‘Ave Maria’  with the Salt Lake City Children’s Choir and the City of Prague Philharmonic ‘“ one of my favorite classics, beautifully covered. Grab your tissues.
- – snip – -
Overall Grade: A

http://www.entertainyoursoul.com/christmas-from-the-heart-david-archuleta

Thats good! Almost 100,000 and it could turn out to be that before its all done with. How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

To date jordin has the lowest I believ, at 110K. So want Kris to do better than that or it will just start all the harping on him again about not “derserving” to win.

Wasn’t Jive expecting 75k for Allison?
yeah, those are really low numbers, but I think they were expected after what LLWD did.

Honestly, that was clearly insanity.

If Kris opens in the70,000 – 80,000 range and Adam opens in the 60,000 – 70,000 range, all it will take will be a couple of pretty strong singles or even one very strong single to give them gold-plus albums. Nothing wrong with that. … But I hate to say this — having those strong singles kind of depends on … radio play. …. Honestly, I don’t see very many other avenues — although I guess some very strong tv exposure for one of their songs might also do it.

I just think it is going to be a tough year for everyone in the biz.

Well almost everyone. Mayer’s looking good, as is Carrie Underwood. But yup, major labels are sucking major wind at the moment.

I would love to go to the GMA show but the day before TG is tough. I’m sure a few New Yorkers will fill the venue for him.

there will be plenty of people there…there are TONS of school kids (cheerleaders, drill teams, marching bands) in NYC that wednesday in preparation for the Macy’s parade the next day and tons of them show up to the Today show and GMA in the morning…they probably already have large groups of kids booked into the show

Carrie did 3 songs not 2 (Cowboy Casanova, Last Name, and Before He Cheats as a web exclusive). Her crowd wasn’t huge but it looked to me like it filled up the space they made available.

It definitely didn’t fill up the space. Lincoln Center has three theaters and at curtain call the plaza can be quite crowded. From what was shown on TV, there looked to be about 30 people there. That’s dead by NYC standards.

Oh crap. That’s worse than I was expecting. At least Leona’s numbers suck worse.

Thats good! Almost 100,000 and it could turn out to be that before its all done with. How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

Not even close.

I just hope they aren’t overestimating him like they did with both David’s last year.

From what was shown on TV, there looked to be about 30 people there. That’s dead by NYC standards.

Far, far from it. I was there. There were a couple of hundred people there. Maybe thats considered a poor turnout compared to what the Central Park concerts pull in but it wasn’t a flop.

For those who care much about FYE-album reviews just an example from Queen experience:

Rolling Stone gave “The game” (e.g. Crazy Little Thing Called Love) 3 out of 5 and then the album goes 4xplatinum in US. Better example is “News of the World” (e. g. We Are the Champions, We Will Rock You) – RS gave 2,5/5, 4xplatinum in US.

Not saying that good reviews are not important at all but a great album is a great album no matter what (“The game” is not my favorite BTW) . In the end it is all in people’s hands. If they like/love FYE it will be successful in terms of sales.

Not to nitpick here, but HDD is predicting 75000-80000 for Kris (NOT 70000-80000)

This must be without considering the itunes pass though?

75-85k is around where I thought Kris might land too – I’m hoping for a good holiday season of sales for him and then legs while he tours and builds a fanbase the old fashioned way. He’s got good enough music on the album to do it. I really wish they’d pick Alright With Me as a single or get it out there some way because it sounds different and neat and I bet it would sell albums.

From what was shown on TV, there looked to be about 30 people there.

I could pull up some screencaps that show how much you’re underestimating Carrie’s NYC crowd but I don’t have the time. There were probably 30 people in just the front row in front of the stage

Allison – I’m honestly expecting 30-40k first week and if it’s more I’ll be very happy for her. There just hasn’t been enough traction on her single yet but hers is an album that could grow IMO.

HDD is predicting 75,000-80,000 for Kris’ album ‘” well below John Mayer, Norah Jones and Justin Bieber, but above Leona Lewis

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07840m01

So Kris is debuting at #5?

Saga

Not necessarily. (I was guessing 75000-100000 for Kris, based on what I’d see other debuts do in recent weeks)

How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

No, these are by far the lowest numbers
Kelly: 297K
Ruben: 400K
Fantasia: 240K
Carrie: 315K
Taylor: 298K
Jordin: 119K
David: 279K

Source? I think based on how FIBOU is doing, unless the New Moon thing makes a ridiculous impact I’m thinking realistic expectation should be around 50K.

Rolling Stone

HDD is predicting 75,000-80,000 for Kris’ album ‘” well below John Mayer, Norah Jones and Justin Bieber, but above Leona Lewis

Thats good! Almost 100,000 and it could turn out to be that before its all done with. How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

imo, as a non invested fan of s8, but one that wants to see them do well, and as an experienced idol numbers watcher, these are mind numbingly horrible opening numbers for an idol winner debut… and no – fantasia’s and jordin’s opening numbers were higher… i am really shocked at this prediction… this season has gone from absurd to grotesque… ymmv.

I really, really don’t understand what’s going on with Adam’s single at all. If it weren’t for the AMA performance and the video I would have just chalked it up to RCA scrapping FYE and deciding that WWFM was the better shot. But those two things are such huge boosters that it seems like a huge waste ‘“ why have him perform and make a video for one song when it’s the other you’re gonna push to radio?

Maybe because they envisioned an FYE production number as being a more fun tv spectacle for the AMAs, especially given that GaGa and some other will be there — showing how he fits in with that style?

And maybe because they just miscalculated U.S. radio’s meh response to FYE? It happens. And it’s not at all unheard of even for songs whose market testing has been really positive. It’s just plain hard to predict, and they could have made a mistake, but still figured they would go with the more GaGaish song and performance for the AMAs. Adam and the band have to learn to perform that song anyway, so their practice time won’t be lost!

And as for the video — well, they are going to market him in other countries, already marketing him in Canada, which seems to like FYE. They can always use the video there. … Or maybe FYE can be pulled back and relaunched as the second or third single.

This must be without the itunes pass though?

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Not necessarily. (I was guessing 75000-100000 for Kris, based on what I’d see other debuts do in recent weeks)

Oh, I thought there was a chance he solds a lot of those, didn’t he sell 200K of NoBo?

So Kris is debuting at #5?

No. HDD predicts at least 6 albums to beat it, but there could be more. (Maybe not though)

To date jordin has the lowest I believ, at 110K. So want Kris to do better than that or it will just start all the harping on him again about not ‘derserving’  to win.

I don’t think people will harp unless Adam sells more his first week. If Adam sells more then yes the comparisons will go rampet in Adam’s favor. If Adam doesn’t sell more, then the media will go the other way and say Adam was again over-hyped yadda yadda yadda.

I believe either an RS or EW article stated that Jive told them that they expect Allison to sell around 75k. And she actually does have a lot of December promo coming up – Kris does too actually – so I can see where that plus the Twilight thing they’ve got going now might make them comfortable citing that number for her.

No, these are by far the lowest numbers
Kelly: 297K
Ruben: 400K
Fantasia: 240K
Carrie: 315K
Taylor: 298K
Jordin: 119K
David: 279K

Those HDD numbers are estimates, right? Kris may open bigger than they thought.

I think Kris is listed 7th in the article behind:

John Mayer
Norah Jones
50 cent
Casting Crowns (not crows as it says there)
Andrea Bocelli
Justin Bieber

Unique28v

No. If HDD’s predictions turn out to be accurate, Kris would have the 7th highest debut for this week

John Mayer (est. 275-300 K)
Noah Jones (est. 150-160 K)
50 Cent (est. 140-150 K)
Casting Crows (est. 150-160 K) (who??? nver heard of them – says they are a Christian group)
Andrea Bocelli (est. 150-160 K)
Justin Bieber (est. 110-120 K)
KRIS ALLEN (est. 75-80 K)
Them Crooked Vultures (est. 70-75 K)
Leona Lewis (est. 60-65 K)
Paul McCartney (live DVD/CD) (est. 50-55 K)
One Republic (est. 40-45 K)
Janet Jackson (greatest hits album) (est. 35-40 K)

This must be without the itunes pass though?

I think we should start considering the fact that the iTunes Pass did very little for him. That was considered a pre-order and pre-orders are taken into account by HDD.

It’s interesting though, Kris has a banner on HDD’s site and his album is #4 on their Top 5 picks to break chart.

What is HDD based on? How do they make these predictions? Are they always right?

Kirs is going to take a beating if 1) he doesn’t seel at least 100K and 2) Adam debuts higher than him.

My post in the sales thread:

I expected those numbers for Kris (I had him at 60k-100k). Although I expected them, they still are pretty bad. And it’s not boding well for him that LLWD doesn’t appear to be destined to become a big hit.

Thank God I don’t care about anyone from this season or I’d be freaking out. lol

And maybe because they just miscalculated U.S. radio’s meh response to FYE? It happens. And it’s not at all unheard of even for songs whose market testing has been really positive. It’s just plain hard to predict, and they could have made a mistake, but still figured they would go with the more GaGaish song and performance for the AMAs. Adam and the band have to learn to perform that song anyway, so their practice time won’t be lost!

It doesn’t surprise me.. sadly. The US market for music is pretty conservative today. Think about the music from the 80′s & 90′s… there was alot of experimentation going on IMAO just isn’t seen today. Maybe the likes of Gaga will change this.. I hope. Overseas is a different musical world (and maybe Canada from the sounds of things). Watching FYE progress is going to be interesting. I say they should toss it over seas in a few months.

NVM

If these HDD numbers prove true, I wouldn”t expect Allison to come anywhere near 75,000 opening week, because her fanbase has proven so far to be much weaker than Kris’…

imo, as a non invested fan of s8, but one that wants to see them do well, and as an experienced idol numbers watcher, these are mind numbingly horrible opening numbers for an idol winner debut’ ¦ and no ‘“ fantasia’s and jordin’s opening numbers were higher’ ¦ i am really shocked at this prediction’ ¦ this season has gone from absurd to grotesque’ ¦ ymmv.

Well, AI is still the most popular show on TV but its audience viewership has declined. I think this year’s sales are proving that. The show is starting to lose its luster maybe.

How does that compare to past Idol winners? Did he sell more than Jordin and Fantasia did for their Debut?

Showing how horribly times have changed, Elliott, third-place finisher in Season Five, recording on an indie label, releasing in the spring, nearly a year after his Idol run was over, and without any holiday sales bump, sold over 90,000 his first week. (in 2007)

However, he did go gold with only one very high-performing single for that album. So an under-100,000 start is not the kiss of death. Honestly, very very few people are expecting platinum album sales any more, at least not in under a year’s time. I mean — One Republic is a very big name. And look at their sales expectation. Slow and steady is going to have to win most of the races from now on.

Those HDD numbers are estimates, right? Kris may open bigger than they thought.

Yeah, these are estimates. Final numbers can be different. I don’t think they’ve understimated idols lately, but we never know.
That Justin kid is opening with good numbers. The good news for Kris is that Leona is not doing better.

Those HDD numbers are estimates, right? Kris may open bigger than they thought.

If anything, I think HDD estimates are more likely to be over vs under.

I believe either an RS or EW article stated that Jive told them that they expect Allison to sell around 75

They said up to 75K for Allison.

Well, AI is still the most popular show on TV but its audience viewership has declined. I think this year’s sales are proving that. The show is starting to lose its luster maybe.

When they brought all the has-beens out for finale night… I told my husband the show ‘jumped the shark’. Rod Steward could barely walk and the dude from Kiss has issue breaking his guitar. LOL

Kirs is going to take a beating if 1) he doesn’t seel at least 100K and 2) Adam debuts higher than him.

I don’t think it will hurt him if Adam sells more, I honestly don’t. It will hurt him if he doesn’t have decent numbers but that goes for any artist. Let’s hope he does better than Jordin.

I can’t believe how well that Bieber kid is doing.

edit…not thinking clearly.

You know.. I’m not a Kris fan… I have nothing against him at all. But if his numbers are low, I won’t be blaming him. He is no less talented than any of the prior winners. I do think something else is cooking here. Maybe the economy.. maybe the show has already peaked.. maybe rush albums don’t work… I don’t know. I do know that it won’t be for a lack of talent, even if it isn’t something that appeals to me.

I think the Bieber album costs like $7 to start with. And he has a ton of songs on the iTunes charts — he must be the tween’s current “hot” guy or some such thing.

Kris is very under the radar.

The one good aspect of Adam taking all of the media heat this season, from his pov, is that it lowers expectations for Kris and gives him room to grow organically.

If a couple of his songs do well, he could still take off.

These opening number predictions are very poor for an Idol winner, there’s no doubt about that, but I hope they media and his label give him some space to develop.

I honestly don’t care about the numbers – and never did until I came to this blog. I just hate to read the i-told-you-so and the your idol sucks stuff just because they are not matching past numbers. The economy is different people – I believe that plays huge into the sale differences.

imo, as a non invested fan of s8, but one that wants to see them do well, and as an experienced idol numbers watcher, these are mind numbingly horrible opening numbers for an idol winner debut’ ¦ and no ‘“ fantasia’s and jordin’s opening numbers were higher’ ¦ i am really shocked at this prediction’ ¦ this season has gone from absurd to grotesque’ ¦ ymmv.

I am not a kris fan, but I dont think its so bad. This year figures are totally screwed. You cant compare this year with former years for albums. I doubt Adam will sell much differently. And no, the Davids were not more brilliant than Adam and Kris. Sorry, I will not buy that.

It will be very unfair if Kris get marked by those number in a year in which nobody is selling as much as before.

Kirs is going to take a beating if 1) he doesn’t seel at least 100K and 2) Adam debuts higher than him.

Everyone and their mom knows that Adam will debut with higher numbers.

Most people expect Adam to outsell Kris, so that won’t hurt him. He will be hurt if the numbers are low to begin with and fall rapidly. If they are low but remain steady and/or start to build a little, then he’d be all right.

But again — this estimate should be a warning about lowering the expectations for Adam’s debut.

As for the GMA event, a post has been made at AO for over 8 weeks where peeps are actually taking plane trips and getting hotels for the “GLAMFEST” that week. It has over 900 posts or comments of peeps getting ready to go. One person is in charge of it and has contacted the PR person at GMA. They have listed hotel rooms, etc. So, GMA may know more than we do about the venue needed for Adam and they are asking for confirmation from the things they have been hearing from (at least) this AO group.

I just got an email from ABC that I was invited to attend Adam’s concert and to send a confirmation. Is it open to the public or not? I’m confused….someone help!!

kris was beating the justin kid yesterday. must have passed him when school let out.

I can’t believe how well that Bieber kid is doing.

No offense to him, but I heard him on the radio the other day, and I could have sworn it was a 10 yr old girl. IDK – but that music getting airplay and not Adam’s? Come on!

That wasn’t a bad review for Adam, considering that John Mayer got a B-.

I get weekly iTunes emails and this is what I got today re: the Idols:

From : iTunes
Subject : American Idol Spotlight: New Music from Adam Lambert, Kris Allen, Allison Iraheta, Jason Castro, and more

It has a ginormous pic of Adam with the following:

The highly anticipated debut album from American Idol Season 8 runner-up Adam Lambert arrives next week. A pop-rock extravaganza, For Your Entertainment is a testament to Lambert’s knack for mixing things up. Pre-order the album and be among the first to get it when it’s released on November 23 along with three bonus tracks, two behind-the-scenes videos, and a digital booklet. When you pre-order, the first single and title track from the album will begin to download immediately.

Below that is Kris’s:

Kris Allen

Season 8 winner Kris Allen’s just-released self-titled debut album is true to the persona millions witnessed on American Idol ‘” honest and low-key with just enough soul and sex appeal to keep you wanting more. The iTunes-exclusive deluxe version includes a bonus track, six videos, and a digital booklet.
Get It Now Go

Kris Allen iTunes Pass – Kris Allen

And Allison’s (very small, I might note):

“Rocker chick” Season 8 contestant Allison Iraheta made it all the way to fourth place and is now ready to go all the way. Her debut album, Just Like You, comes out on December 1 and features collaborations with a host of seasoned songwriters, including Kara DioGuardi, P!nk, and Chris Daughtry, who penned the pre-order-only bonus track “Don’t Wanna Be Wrong.”
Pre-Order Now

I do not think RCA/19 has given up on FYE, and will wait to see how it does after the AMAs and GMA, but I honestly think WWFM is a better fit. (I listen to LLWD, which is really growing on me, and it sounds good on the radio, I think.) But we’ll see. Without radio promotion, as saga has pointed out, it’s hard to tell, but the fact that OHP and Elvis picked up WWFM is telling, I think (and it DOES sound good on the radio, IMO).

Michelle Collins is hysterical, but I am not a huge Jon Hamm fan, gotta say. Funny she didn’t put Adam #1–she is a HUGE Adam stan.

Hey, squirrely, etal, if anyone in the Boston area who is not going to the GMA (sob) and wants to come over for an AMAs party, let me know. And I think they need a large venue b/c there will be a big ass band there, maybe dancers (!), and yes, this is the intro to FYE. LLWD had already had some performances. I am not worried about it selling out, I really am not. BTW, did Kris sing more than LLWD? That’s the only one televised right? Shouldn’t there have been at least one or two more? I was surprised.

Off to request WWFM.

girlygirl
11/18/2009 at 3:21 pm
Most people expect Adam to outsell Kris, so that won’t hurt him. He will be hurt if the numbers are low to begin with and fall rapidly. If they are low but remain steady and/or start to build a little, then he’d be all right.

But again ‘” this estimate should be a warning about lowering the expectations for Adam’s debut.

I think this is why 19 was so interested in Adam. Because sales are down there needs to be other ways to generate revenue than just CD sales. Yes, it is about the music, but these days it needs to be about product promotion and other streams of revenue. CD sales just don’t cut it.

I just got an email from ABC that I was invited to attend Adam’s concert and to send a confirmation. Is it open to the public or not? I’m confused’ ¦.someone help!!

I think you can get in either way (by confirming, or just by showing up). You may get some priority by confirming, but I think it will still be mostly a “first come, first served” deal. Just a guess.

I think the Bieber album costs like $7 to start with. And he has a ton of songs on the iTunes charts ‘” he must be the tween’s current ‘hot’  guy or some such thing.

Music isn’t what racks up big music sales. Appealing to the romantic fantasies of a demographic with disposable cash is what racks up big music sales.

If Kris and Adam end up selling well under 100,000 each their first weeks, it won’t be any reflection on them and, to me, more importantly, won’t be any reflection on the quality of these albums. I still think these two are some of the very best post-AI debut albums 19/Sony has ever put out. And I don’t think there’s any question that both guys are fine musicians and performers. …. In the long run, they can have careers as musicians, which is the only thing that really ought to matter to anybody anyhow.

I’m a little stunned at John Mayer’s numbers. His first single was horrible … and did it go anywhere on the charts? Maybe the rest of the album is better; I haven’t heard it.

They said up to 75K for Allison.

Nope, they said about 75K the first week.

No offense to him, but I heard him on the radio the other day, and I could have sworn it was a 10 yr old girl. IDK ‘“ but that music getting airplay and not Adam’s? Come on!

Again, I have seen that guy do tons of radio promo.

KRIS ALLEN (est. 75-80 K)

eh that’s bad considering he came from idol but who knows maybe his album could rise in the coming weeks. Hell lady gaga had 2 number 2 hits and her album debuted with 24,000 but so far she’s sold more then 4 mil worldwide. It’s just a matter of longativity. If his album can stay in the top 20 for a while then that’s what matters. Look at Taylor hicks “298K” but we all know that didn’t last.

I’m a little stunned at John Mayer’s numbers. His first single was horrible ‘ ¦ and did it go anywhere on the charts? Maybe the rest of the album is better; I haven’t heard it.

Some artists kind of get a nostalgia vote — people love them at first and then keep on loving them for a long time …. Lots of people apparenlty just keep on buying albums from people they loved as teenagers, like, forever….

What I wonder is why some artists get this and others don’t.

I don’t think that its the economy alone causing these declines, it is just as much the availability of music for “free” on the internet…I mean, even my 67 year old mother knows how to listen to music on youtube and other internet sites….even putting illegal downloading aside, you can listen to just about anything for free at any time on the internet…get a good set of speakers and you can log in and listen anywhere in your house…..

Again, I have seen that guy do tons of radio promo.

Even GaGa does tons of radio promo, lots of interviews in many stations. Adam only didnt do it. Yet. But he will. And Kris will keep doing it. Cook still does it, after a year!

lucy
11/18/2009 at 3:30 pm
I’m a little stunned at John Mayer’s numbers. His first single was horrible ‘ ¦ and did it go anywhere on the charts? Maybe the rest of the album is better; I haven’t heard it.

Some artists kind of get a nostalgia vote ‘” people love them at first and then keep on loving them for a long time ‘ ¦. Lots of people apparenlty just keep on buying albums from people they loved as teenagers, like, forever’ ¦.

What I wonder is why some artists get this and others don’t.

I liked Mayer’s single. It was snappy. I hear it on the radio all the time now.

kris was beating the justin kid yesterday. must have passed him when school let out.

LMAO!

John Mayers numbers aren’t at all surprising. He’s not a single driven artist. He’s one of those people with broad musical appeal who can get fans to buy the entire album because of his well respected musicianship.

Hopefully Jive isn’t too discouraged by this and can set out to make KA’s album one that sells a little bit at a time but for a LONG TIME. I’m also thinking he should have decent numbers for Black Friday. After that, Kris has lots of work to do.

I am not a kris fan, but I dont think its so bad. This year figures are totally screwed. You cant compare this year with former years for albums. I doubt Adam will sell much differently. And no, the Davids were not more brilliant than Adam and Kris. Sorry, I will not buy that.

no one has said they were more brilliant… sure things have changed in the music industry, but perhaps not as much in a year’s time for idols as some want to believe. just puts into deeper perspective for me just how formidable the 2 david’s were across the board, and how they have managed to build and grow upon their success from idol… it may be time for one of those miracles, because it’s beginning to look like s8 may be starting a downward trend in sales expectations for their top finishers… it was bound to happen eventually, but with all the hype surrounding this season, i didn’t conceive this could be the one… as always, ymmv.

Everyone and their mom knows that Adam will debut with higher numbers

haha this was funny for some reason. but I think Adam faces similar if not more intense competition for that week. with rihanna , shakira, gaga, beyonce , suan boyle and God knows who else . infact allison has better chance of debuting at no 1 on dec 1st cos i don’t know anyone else for that day.

Allison to sell 75K in the first week? No way.

FYE is doing the inchworm back up the charts it’s #56 on the feed now it was deep in the 80s a couple of days ago. I don’t think it’s dead in the water, I think RCA is just releasing more than one single.

I’m not a fan of Mayer’s current single, either. But, I bought his cd yesterday when I picked up Kris’. I loved Continuum so I bought this one, even though I still haven’t heard any of the other songs and I don’t like the current single. I don’t think it’s nostalgia so much as “he hasn’t disappointed me yet”.

I would just like to share something that may provide comfort to those who are so worried about FYE possibly dying on radio and WYWFM surpassing it or whatever. The music business is full of examples I could give, and I chose this one not because of any musical similarities, but because it was a massive, massive success selling over 20 million units spawing 7 hit singles that stayed on the charts for two years and the first single it released was kind of a flop, and the second wasn’t even probably one of the top two or three.

So, here goes. Anybody remember a little album called “Hysteria”?
Can anybody name that first single? Was it “Pour Some Sugar On Me”? NO. How about “Love Bites”? No. Or the title smash, “Hysteria”. Or even “Armageddon It” No, it was “Women”. I love that album and I can’t even sing that one off the top of my head.

As I said, it sold a few records. Granted, it wasn’t their debut. But still.

This has happened many times. No need to fear. There are hits on this album. Many. Give it time.

If Kris and Adam end up selling well under 100,000 each their first weeks, it won’t be any reflection on them and, to me, more importantly, won’t be any reflection on the quality of these albums. I still think these two are some of the very best post-AI debut albums 19/Sony has ever put out.

I agree 100%, lucy.

I don’t think enough consideration is being given to the terrible state of the economy. People are not spending money on luxuries.

To put a bit of perspective on this, Weezer’s much anticipated album opened with around 66,000 in sales. It doesn’t mean the music isn’t good.

I always expected Adam and Kris to end up with about the same numbers in sales. I’ll give Adam a slight edge, perhaps.

Kris won AI, Adam received a ton of press’ ¦I think the two kinda even out, yanno?

I’m not worried for either of them. They will do fine in the long run.

I always expected Adam and Kris to end up with about the same numbers in sales. I’ll give Adam a slight edge, perhaps.

I agree…as an Adam fan… but without the edge. I do think the press vs. winner thing has evened the odds out a bit.

I think Adam will crack 100K in opening week sales, but I don’t think he’ll get anywhere near 200K. The estimates for Kris are pretty rough. He’s not going to be able to escape the “lowest opening week for an Idol winner evah” talk. If you’re a Kris fan, you just have to hope that he has a similar sales trajectory to Jordin going forward.

Allison selling 75K in her opening week? Not happening.

John Mayer has a huge fanbase. He wins awards left and right, he pretty much has sold out his concerts (in the past, don’t know about his current stff) and he has sold millions of albums. He is one of the biggest names in the business

How good is HDD at predicting? They haven’t had the itunes pass in the past to be able to include it so could they be underestimating since there is no precedence for it?

But again ‘” this estimate should be a warning about lowering the expectations for Adam’s debut.

I think the expectations of Adam’s fans are lowered. It’s the non-fans who seem to be saying/implying that all the extra publicity Adam has received since the tour ended will somehow translate into album sales.

The AMA performance will definitely give him a boost, primarily because he’ll be performing his single. However, all that other non-music fanfare, i.e. the red-carpet stuff, etc. while it may enhance the Adam brand and make him better known, it won’t necessarily sell albums.

Well, yes, I remember people her mmumbling about that. Also Kris didn’t pick up spin before he started to do promo as far as I remember. Fans were annoyed bc not even the station he premiered on played it in the beginning.

That station, Z100, didn’t play it the first week, but added it the next Thursday, and started to spin it the day before. When they added it, they played it once every three hours, so this is not a good example.

The spins started to increase with radio promo, but they were on a steady climb before that, which is not what has happened with FYE over the past few days.

Continuum is a *great* album, but I streamed his new one on Monday and…eh…dunno. Need to hear more, but based on the single, I don’t know if I’ll buy it (which is, of course, why initial singles *do* count, IMO).

I think Allison will be lucky to see 50K her 1st week. I think most people are doing, Allison who? Maybe some promotion will help, but so far it’s Kris, Adam, and…that’s about it.

That Bieber kid (he’s 15) bugs the hell out of me, and I am so over Owl City as well.

jambajim

# This just in. I will be interviewing the one and only @ADAMLAMBERT on Tuesday. [steps away from computer, happy-dances, passes out, dead.] 40 minutes ago from web

larchcat
11/18/2009 at 3:37 pm
So, here goes. Anybody remember a little album called ‘Hysteria’ ?
Can anybody name that first single? Was it ‘Pour Some Sugar On Me’ ? NO. How about ‘Love Bites’ ? No. Or the title smash, ‘Hysteria’ . Or even ‘Armageddon It’  No, it was ‘Women’ . I love that album and I can’t even sing that one off the top of my head.

Yes, I remember it well. Thanks for that, larchcat!

lorismile,

I received one as well- I believe that confirmed people get 1st dibs and then everyone else after-tells you to be there by 6am if you have confirmed

The AMA performance will definitely give him a boost, primarily because he’ll be performing his single. However, all that other non-music fanfare, i.e. the red-carpet stuff, etc. while it may enhance the Adam brand and make him better known, it won’t necessarily sell albums.

this is the meme the non invested fans received from the get go… it’s just taken longer for the invested ones to receive it

jambajim

# This just in. I will be interviewing the one and only @ADAMLAMBERT on Tuesday. [steps away from computer, happy-dances, passes out, dead.] 40 minutes ago from web

This is Jim’s first interview with Adam. I wonder how he was able to score this one after a dozen Kris interviews. In any case, perhaps he will actually become of fan of Adam’s. Adam has converted many, including that one girl who couldn’t stand the sight of Adam and just adored Kris.

BTW, that isn’t you, suebrody, is it? Faking us out?

suebrody
11/18/2009 at 3:47 pm
Continuum is a *great* album, but I streamed his new one on Monday and’ ¦eh’ ¦dunno. Need to hear more, but based on the single, I don’t know if I’ll buy it (which is, of course, why initial singles *do* count, IMO).

I love that album too. The new one, not so much. I like the single, but it didn’t seem to match the sound of the rest of the tracks. *shrug*

this is the meme the non invested fans received from the get go’ ¦ it’s just taken the invested ones a longer to receive it

Not completely true because the hoopla from yday boosted his single on itunes from 80 something to 50 something according to reports here (haven’t checked myself). But I rather see him perform than talking about Aaron/OUT.

I am stupid this way, but how are people coming up with first week projections? Is it based on pre-sales? Single sales?

I expect the AMAs will give Adam great exposure and some sales benefit, but I don’t expect it to be that significant. There are going to be a LOT of high-wattage performers on that show, so no one act can steal the show.

The greatest benefit to Adam performing there is to (hopefully) establish his reputation as an A-list star- to prove that he belongs in that peer group. It’s an exciting opportunity.

I am stupid this way, but how are people coming up with first week projections? Is it based on pre-sales? Single sales?

Based on many things but specially the first day of sales, AFAIK.

Adam will have better opening weekend numbers than Kris. His album has consistently been higher than Kris’s on pretty much every presale chart that I have seen.

I don’t think that he will match previous Idol totals, however.

ITA that this (for either Kris Allen or Adam Lambert) is no reflection on ‘brilliance’, talent or the quality of the first albums.

Just as the fact that Cook, whilst doing really well, didn’t sell as well as some earlier idols, was no reflection on him or his first album, but it sure as hell didn’t stop the snide comparisons.

That’s idol life, I guess.

The music market was already considerably depressed by November last year (even looking at the top 10 openings weekends from last year can show you just how much it slipped in just the course of that year alone!).

It’s continued to slip this year.

Yet, what is inescapable from Allens’ numbers, is that he just does not have the large numbers of interested idol fans, ready to buy.

There’s certainly no sense of gloating or anything else here: I will be waiting with baited breath next year to see whether Cook can sustain anything near his DCTR sales on his second album and hoping against hope that he can preserve at least some of it.

The only fans who have any reason to sit above the fray, unconcerned (if they are so inclined) at the moment are Carrie Underwood fans and – to a slightly lesser, but still real extent – Daughtry and Clarkson fans.

Who is Adam’s keyboardist anyway? Monte’s wife or the girl from Smashing Pumpkins?

BTW, that isn’t you, suebrody, is it? Faking us out?

lol, but I did just tweet Michael Slezak. Time to tweet Jim. See if either of them wants to do coffee w/ me. Actually, I would have a better shot w/ Jim, since he DMs me periodically.

I think he is slowly becoming an Adam stan. Who knew?

BestAI

Jim C. is already an Adam fan…he just likes Kris and Allison more.

It’s great that he got this interview though.

Ha! I never got an email from GMA about the concert, but since someone posted the GMA confirmation email I sent a confirmation in anyway…just got an email back from GMA saying great, see ya there….so I guess I have to shlep over to 44th street at 6am?

jambajim

# This just in. I will be interviewing the one and only @ADAMLAMBERT on Tuesday. [steps away from computer, happy-dances, passes out, dead.] 40 minutes ago from web

Jim cracks me up! He really has become an Adam fan, or more accurately, a “Kradison” fanboy.

Now I hope Slezak gets an interview, too — wouldn’t want him to get jealous. But on a more serious note, Slezak is a good interviewer — his Idolatry interview with Adam last May was one of the best Adam interviews I’ve ever seen. So, I hope he gets a chance to talk to Adam again — would be a “win” for him and for the audience.

If Slezak wants to interview, I am sure Adam will make the time (he’s already in NYC and has, of course, already done Idolatry). And yes, Michael is a very good journalist, and after his piece on Out (not saying that is this related, however), I bet they both wouldn’t mind a sit-down.

Nothing from AO on my album, BTW, but then again I never got the email on the downloads. I’ll just have to sit and wait. iTunes, OTOH, better have it ready for me. They actually didn’t notify me re: Kris, and I had to do some digging to get it. Epic fail iTunes, as usually.

The keyboardist in the pic of Adam’s band looks a lot like Lisa Harrinton from The Smashing Pumpkins. She’s also a songwriter and singer. If Adam did manage to get her, he’s very fortunate because she’s really good. Google her to see how good she is.

Here’s a larger picture of Adam’s band to use for comparison:
http://i34.tinypic.com/slpmwj.jpg

Some pics of Lisa Harrinton as a blonde:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=367954333&albumID=786385&imageID=5552941

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=367954333&albumID=786385&imageID=5553023

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=367954333&albumID=786385&imageID=5552937

http://www.flickr.com/photos/live105/888869947/

Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part but I really hope the “Lisa” in the band’s picture is Lisa Harrinton.

I expect the AMAs will give Adam great exposure and some sales benefit, but I don’t expect it to be that significant. There are going to be a LOT of high-wattage performers on that show, so no one act can steal the show.

The greatest benefit to Adam performing there is to (hopefully) establish his reputation as an A-list star- to prove that he belongs in that peer group. It’s an exciting opportunity.

ITA, altho Adam has the disadvantage because he just formed his band, and this is not only the debut for Adam, but his band. If Adam can pull this off, then he definitely should qualify as an A-lister. So much pressure on Adam these days… rush the album, rush the single, rush his debut performance… The only thing we can count on is Adam’s incredible vocals.

Reading about all the hateful comments being thrown at Adam…..I keep going back to a comment my 31 year old son said, “People ‘hate’ because they are afraid of what they don’t understand”. When I don’t understand why some people feel they are ‘entitled’ to spit out hateful personal comments about someone for no apparent logical reason….I just remember what my son said and try to make sense of it all. I just have to shake my head!

I love that he has a female in his band. I think that is cool. Wish more bands would have female musicians.

BestAI I think Adam has 2 things going for him with regards to his band. 1) they seem to be a professional & experienced bunch (at least the guitarist, drummer & maybe keyboard gal) 2) Adam is a perfectionist if nothing else.

BTW, I don’t think Monte’s wife plays keyboards.

Well, this is on the latest Rockstar Weekly:

Monte Pittman and Longineu Parsons were revealed through various Twitter messages, while Adam has a history of performing in the band Citizen Vein with Prong bandmates Monte Pittman and Tommy Victor. Monte also co-wrote some material on For Your Entertainment. The best guess for Lisa, is Lisa Pittman, who was the background vocalist on her husband Monte’s CD The Deepest Dark. She was around the Citizen Vein band and has taken published photos of them. One rumor about the identity of Lisa is that she is Lisa Coleman from Wendy & Lisa and Prince & The Revoluition, however confirmation from Coleman’s partner and manager Renata Kanclerz has confirmed it is not her. A further Lisa being thrown about is Lisa Rae Harriton, the keyboard player from Smashing Pumpkins

Further speculation is that the bassist is TommyJoe Ratliff, who other than a private MySpace profile has pretty much no information available anywhere.

Suebrody

From the article, It looks like HDD is basing these estimates off the one-day reports from actual stores (Walmart, Target, Best Buy, etc) that sell physical CDs. Not sure how they incorporate iTunes and other download sales into these estimates.

I like master plan better than wwfm although I LOVE then both

That Justin kid is opening with good numbers.

because he’s AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! just saying……

anyway my opinion (probably expected of fye) .I couldn’t comment on it yesterday,because my brain was blown ;

first off the fact we get to listen to it/overall reaction-SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFLAILSQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBLACKSWANWORKEDSQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEJUMPSQUEEEEEEEEEEEEECRYSQUEEEEEEEERRREEEEEEEEEEEDIESQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFLAILLLLLLLLLLLLSQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

now that that’s outta the way:)

my short OPINION:btw I FLOVE everything on the album so I’m going to try not to capitalize or bold

music again- love it(duh).it’s addicting. seems very modern , current, like something I would hear on the radio.it’s not TOO falsetto and it’s modern,while not covering up that voice.

for you entertainment-love it(again).it seems like a gr8 choice for a first single IMHO.very hot,edgy,modern.idk why It didn’t take off.this is just a theory and it works for kris too;just from my personal experience ppl are ignoring or eye-rolling idol if they don’t hate it more thisbyear than before. ‘maybe that’s affecting sales.a few of my friends said they have heard of llwd,but don’t like it enough to buy it.maybe that’s why sales are fewer? because it’s idol? idk

whataya want from me: loooove this.doesn’t sound too pink-ish like I thought it would.awesome song.the chorus tells me it
would probably make a good single
strut-I liked no boundries but this is awesome.love it.the voice shines
through,doesn’t seem over-produced to me.damn, thi is perfection.
soaked-beautiful begining w/the full string orchestra.this almost made me cry(and I haven’t cried since the finale).this is simply
beautiful.one of my favorite songs.
sure fire winners-this is sooooo fresh.not rap,but modern top 40-ish.how can you not
love this?
a loaded smile-I’ll be honest,I was a bit worried when I heard all falsetto but this is awesome
if I had you-very clubb-y.*love this*. seriously wow.lyrics are sooo Adam
pick u up- I love this.very mainstream.the chorus especially sounds fantastic.
fever-the first tine I heard the snippet I didn’t flove it.now I do.the lady gaga-ness works for
Adam.I wasn’t sure if it would.

sleepwalker-I knew aimee’s song had to be
on the album!!! this is prob. one of my favorite songs(scratch that-I don’t have a
favorite-adam’s too amazing).This is
perfection.a little bit of it sounds kinda green day for me.just me?
aftermath-I know some people thought this sounded generic but I don’t. to me it sounds
great.
broken open- Adam kicks a$$,and this perfectly demonstrate that. love it.simply stunning.

time for miracles-this showcases why I love him

sorry I didn’t comment in the other thread mj. anyway,my brain is still mush,thts how
good this is.I could go on endlessly about the amazing-ness of fye.

also time until IMHO for you for me dawg,the best album ever made-
4  days, 7  hours, 51  minutes and 17  seconds

holy shit!!!!! 5 DAYS!!! OMFAAAAAAAAA

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/18/adam-lambert-band/

Adam band story from MTV…don’t know if posted yet. They give NO names..LOL

I think Adam has 2 things going for him with regards to his band. 1) they seem to be a professional & experienced bunch (at least the guitarist, drummer & maybe keyboard gal) 2) Adam is a perfectionist if nothing else.

True, but since Adam just formed the band, they haven’t had that much time to rehearse. Since the AMA performance is a huge production, a lot of planning had to go into that. Remember Adam’s band has not had one performance yet. Can you imagine their debut performance will be on the AMAs?

When I saw TII, I thought of Adam when MJ had so much input… bandzilla, different aspects of the band, certain productions, etc. Yes, I do think Adam is a perfectionist.

Thanks, girlygirl.

I tweeted Monte Pittman re: Lisa. He does tweet (he last said he was on his way to band rehearsal). I mean, I had to, you know? It’s my job. MJ’s unofficial Tweeter.

Headed to another rehearsal for Sunday. In the meantime: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/mo... about 6 hours ago from web

some media are intimating that Adam’s GMA appearance date is timed to take advantage of the last day of ratings sweeps…

Reading about all the hateful comments being thrown at Adam’ ¦..I keep going back to a comment my 31 year old son said, ‘People ‘hate’ because they are afraid of what they don’t understand’ . When I don’t understand why some people feel they are ‘entitled’ to spit out hateful personal comments about someone for no apparent logical reason’ ¦.I just remember what my son said and try to make sense of it all. I just have to shake my head!

Adam is a celebrity and celebrities get clowned, mocked, and get the piss taken out of them by the media and fans/non-fans. Adam doesn’t have it any worse than, say Britney Spears who had to deal with a mental health crisis while the world joked and mocked it. I’m not wringing my hands over “poor hated Adam” because none of it is unique to him.

some media are intimating that Adam’s GMA appearance date is timed to take advantage of the last day of ratings sweeps’ ¦

when is Adam’s GMA?

Criticism up the ass for him and then tweets this only using Adam’s name?? Hilarious.

Aaronhicklin Behind the scenes video footage of the Out 100 shoot with Adam Lambert, etc. http://bit.ly/4yeqHG
4 minutes ago from web

Looked at the video..primarily Adam and Dan Choi.

yeah ita bestai

ok, as much as I live Adam ,I’ve already mentioned I don’t care how much he sells as long a s he has something to sell I.e. he isn’t dropped.

he has REALLY tough competition.as in
“disturbia” level competition.that song was
HUGE. I don’t expect very High sales jmo

mmb
11/18/2009 at 3:59 pm
Ha! I never got an email from GMA about the concert, but since someone posted the GMA confirmation email I sent a confirmation in anyway’ ¦just got an email back from GMA saying great, see ya there’ ¦.so I guess I have to shlep over to 44th street at 6am?

Yeah, me too. But just talked to my hubby. He wanted to leave for N. Carolina at 7 in the morning. Me taking the train into NYC at 4 AM and him picking me up after the concert is not looking real good. LOL. Why couldn’t they have kept it for the 24th???

I just saw this-Adam auditioning his dancers:

http://abc.go.com/watch/clip/2009-american-music-awards/SH011880100000/145425/241554?&clipId=241554

The Bass player is TommyJoe Ratliff. You can see his picture on his cached MySpace page. Or, go here and look at the first picture under FRIEND SPACE: http://www.myspace.com/oracio

He used to be with the band Mouthlike, is 28 and says he’s straight.

Aaronhicklin Behind the scenes video footage of the Out 100 shoot with Adam Lambert, etc. http://bit.ly/4yeqHG
4 minutes ago from web

lol

thedavidcook: # Wow. 1 year. Here’s to a few more, fingers crossed. Thanks guys!
28 minutes ago from mobile web

*throws confetti*

Criticism up the ass for him and then tweets this only using Adam’s name?? Hilarious.

Aaronhicklin Behind the scenes video footage of the Out 100 shoot with Adam Lambert, etc. http://bit.ly/4yeqHG

I don’t get this guy at all. Like the video though.

hmmmmm I just realized I beat my own ‘ squee’ record

anyway I got homework so laterzzzz

bradwalsh well if i’d known that the way to sell something was to tack on a self-serving letter to @adamlambert, i’d have changed my liner notes

LOL!

True, but since Adam just formed the band, they haven’t had that much time to rehearse. Since the AMA performance is a huge production, a lot of planning had to go into that. Remember Adam’s band has not had one performance yet. Can you imagine their debut performance will be on the AMAs?

True..but we don’t know when they formed, just when they announced it.

I just noticed that TommyJoe’s picture is still on his MySpace page even though he made his page private so you can see it here: http://www.myspace.com/TommyJoe18

I don’t get this guy at all. Like the video though.

I think he’s trying to appease the billions of Glamberts who now hate him. LOL. You know, throw us a bone. Some pretty pictures.

Weighing in on FYE single. Adam has barely started doing any promotion for that single yet (band, dancers, rehearsal yadda yadda yadda). That ALL changes starting with Sunday night’s performance on AMAs. The the Adam blitz begins (bit like a Ballroom Blitz but with more glitter).

Only after that happens and we see what FYE does on the charts will I consider any kind of call on whether it has been a success or not. Need to keep in mind that Adam is a NEW artist. He doesn’t have the radio play legacy of Beyonce, Gaga, Mayer, Rihanna etc etc who’s songs will pretty much get adds no matter what they sound like. So all the articles and red carpet etc build awareness for him outside the Idol bubble and that in turn (over time) helps drive demand for his product – which is the music.

Can’t wait for the AMA performance. Lots of high powered performers on there, but have total confidence that Adam will more than hold his own. He is a born showman and while we have lots of showgirls at the moment, we don’t have any (many) showMEN… that alone will stand out.

You are invited to a special intimate Adam Lambert concert!

The concert will be live on Good Morning America Wednesday November 25, 2009 at the Hudson Theatre in New York City!

They are renting a theatre just for Adam’s performance? That will probably be quite a cash outlay.

The Hudson Theatre is at 145 W. 44th St. and operates in conjunction with the Millennium Broadway Hotel. It’s an old theatre that doesn’t seat as many people as most mainline Broadway theatres, but it does have two balconies.

bradwalsh well if i’d known that the way to sell something was to tack on a self-serving letter to @adamlambert, i’d have changed my liner notes

I was talking to a friend who knows someone who knows about “how it all works”. (Yeah, I know,heresay.) It is the concensus that Hicklin is doing this for hits. What he said may be 100% true, partially, or none, doesn’t really matter. By making this very public open letter to Adam, has really sparked a lof of discussion. His plan has worked. How many publications has weighed in this? How many people are still talking about this?

Can you imagine their debut performance will be on the AMAs?

I wish they had some tailgate smaller gig to warm up. joking. my bad…

BeckyMD
11/18/2009 at 4:42 pm
Can you imagine their debut performance will be on the AMAs?

I wish they had some tailgate smaller concert to warm up. joking. my bad’ ¦

I would have been more than happy to host a small gather just for their debut.

How many publications has weighed in this? How many people are still talking about this?

How many buyers is he loosing? Many people that would probably read his magazine for the first time?

Newsweek Top 10 Cultural Moments

#1 Michael Jackson Dies, Breaks Google
#2 Letterman’s Return to Late Night After 9/11
#3 ‘The Sopranos’ Finale
#4 Kelly Clarkson Becomes the First ‘American Idol’
#5 Halle Berry’s Oscar Win

http://2010.newsweek.com/top-10/cultural-moments/kelly-clarkson-first-american-idol.html

I guess you guys didn’t see my post above about the band members.

Okay, I don’t see Tommy Victor’s picture in the band.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/23467761.jpg

I think we have a winner!
Tommy Joe Ratliff
http://www.myspace.com/TommyJoe18

I think the Lisa is Lisa Harriton. The Smashing Pumpkins’ website does not list her as a current band member. Her myspace has “gimme a sec it’s coming” after “current Band”. And she kind of looks like the girl in the band picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/live105/888869947/

I don’t think it’s Lisa Coleman.
http://991.com/newgallery/Wendy–Lisa-Wendy-And-Lisa-327396.jpg

So unless there is another Lisa, I think we now know who is in the band.

I know I shouldn’t voice this but I’m nervous about the AMAs. There are huge acts performing but I feel like the build up is on Adam – this is his pass or fail.

I may be watching from behind my fingers. I too wish he had more shows prior to this. Kris has been doing shows galore Adam has only done two small events.

I know he will do well, but i have the ‘my kids first recital’ anxiety going on.

How many publications has weighed in this? How many people are still talking about this?

How many buyers is he loosing? Many people that would probably read his magazine for the first time?

You know, I don’t think that straight people reading Out for the first time just because Adam is in it would ever keep *on* reading subsequent issues anyway. It’s a one-off look, seems to me. But if he gets a lot of eyeballs of all kinds on the pages, he’s probably going to get some gay readers who haven’t looked at it before and the controversy and comments *and* overall content will appeal to some of them, and they’ll buy.

Really, were a bunch of Idol fans ever going to subscribe to Out? I’m sure nobody ever thought so. So I don’t think he’s losing many sales. Anybody who read the magazine before has seen this kind of controversy more than once and probably few of these readers have much if any problem with it.

I know he will do well, but i have the ‘my kids first recital’ anxiety going on.

I have it really bad too… I don’t think I’ll be able to watch!

Really, were a bunch of Idol fans ever going to subscribe to Out? I’m sure nobody ever thought so. So I don’t think he’s losing many sales. Anybody who read the magazine before has seen this kind of controversy more than once and probably few of these readers have much if any problem with it.

I think many idol fans would have bought this one issue.

GMA announcement: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/gma-presents-free-adam-lambert-concert/story?id=9115796

If you’re going, they say to be there at 6:00 AM.

I think many idol fans would have bought this one issue.

Yeah, but, believe me, nobody really wants to just sell one issue. I work for a magazine, so I’ve been around this a lot — and the only important reason you seek big sales for one issue alone is so that some of those people will buy a subscription!

I saw this on the ontd_ai site. an anyone confirm tht’s it is correct?

50 CENTS’S LAST FIRST WEEK SALES: 692,000. THIS PREDICTION: 140-150K
NORAH JONES’ LAST FIRST WEEK SALES: 405,000. THIS PREDICTION: 150-160K
LEONA LEWIS’ LAST FIRST WEEK SALES: 205,000. THIS PREDICTION: 60-65K
ONEREPUBLIC’S LAST FIRST WEEK SALES: 75,000. THIS PREDICTION: 40-45K

So if all these established artists are seeing huge drops in these 1st week’s sales from their last album, wouldn’t it be too much to expect any debut artist to put up huge numbers? The Bieber kid will be the highest debut person, and 100-125 K, while certainly good relatively speaking, it’s not exactly massive.

I think many idol fans would have bought this one issue.

And let’s face it, with all the problems the magazine has had over the last couple years, OUT needs all the issue sales they can get right now. They’re sinking. Fast.

“I wish they had some tailgate smaller gig to warm up. joking. my bad’ ¦”

It isn’t unusual for bands to make low-key unannounced appearances at smaller venues in the weeks leading up to a major gig – keep your eyes and ears peeled people…

He is a born showman and while we have lots of showgirls at the moment, we don’t have any (many) showMEN’ ¦ that alone will stand out.

They’re probably all in Vegas!

I know I shouldn’t voice this but I’m nervous about the AMAs. There are huge acts performing but I feel like the build up is on Adam ‘“ this is his pass or fail.

But, the build up is all on these Idol sites. I don’t think there’s a build up among the general public. Unless Elvis or MJ were coming back from the grave, I don’t think who’s appearing on the AMAs is a big topic for water cooler conversations — especially regarding someone who is very new on the national scene.

Does anyone know approximately what time the GMA concert will be broadcast on TV? I hope it’s not at 7:00 AM because that’s a bit early for me.

True, but since Adam just formed the band, they haven’t had that much time to rehearse. Since the AMA performance is a huge production, a lot of planning had to go into that. Remember Adam’s band has not had one performance yet. Can you imagine their debut performance will be on the AMAs?

Wasn’t Cookie’s band’s debut appearance on SNL?

Video of Out 100 Cover Shoot – behind the scenes. http://bit.ly/2eE6cC

Does anyone know approximately what time the GMA concert will be broadcast on TV? I hope it’s not at 7:00 AM because that’s a bit early for me

.

They usually show it around 8:30 am

The GMA concert is usually around 8:30 a.m. This past week, Kris was on (briefly) coming out of a commercial break at like 8:35. But he didn’t actually do LLWD until right before the show ended, around 8:50 a.m. (and they didn’t televise his perfomance of CSA – that was website only)

They usually show it around 8:30 am

Thanks mmb.

Jim Cantiello DM’d me (‘s okay, it’s not private, he has told me that before), just to say that MTV has closed sets for the interviews with Adam, Kris, and Allison (to come), so that he can’t meet up for coffee and will not be covering the GMAs. Sads.

Yeah, it’s 8:30AM, but if you don’t get there waaay before 6AM, you probably aren’t getting into the theater.

I’m not worried about Adam at all. He has been performing for 10 years. Yes, this is a huge platform, but he is working with some of the best musicians. If they didn’t think he was up to it, they NEVER would have invited him to perform; they certainly didn’t need to. There is buzz around him, but not *that* much (to wit: number of spins FYE has received to date).

Out still sucks. No hits for Out.

GMA is going to look awful silly if they book this theatre and then only a couple of hundred fans show up.

hahahaha…rolling on the floor laughing!

I have many worries (album sales #’s, FYE ,etc.) but this is most definitely not one of them!

They usually show it around 8:30 am

grumblegrumbleschoolgrumblegrumble

BTW, did Kris sing more than LLWD? That’s the only one televised right? Shouldn’t there have been at least one or two more? I was surprised.

Kris performed two songs on GMA – LLWD and CSA. I was sad he didn’t perform more (though he technically did CSA twice for us). My guess is Adam will perform three songs. FYE, TFM, and WWFM – just a wild guess though.

AINow UPDATE: Allison’s “Friday I’ll Be Over You” Video Debuts TONIGHT http://bit.ly/3ccjqc – Get a sneak peek now! @allison4realzzz

Did you guys know it was debuting tonight??

However, I’m not one of those people that expects all good reviews.(Hell, an Arkansas paper gave Kris Allen a bad review.)

This is way back on page 8, posted by tiger92. Just wondering if anybody has a link for that.

Whataya Want from Me playing right now on Z100 in NYC.

moved

becausehelives
11/18/2009 at 3:33 pm
Everyone and their mom knows that Adam will debut with higher numbers

haha this was funny for some reason. but I think Adam faces similar if not more intense competition for that week. with rihanna , shakira, gaga, beyonce , suan boyle and God knows who else . infact allison has better chance of debuting at no 1 on dec 1st cos i don’t know anyone else for that day.

EXCELLENT!!! we’ll have someone to blame when it doesn’t do well…
ROTFL

tiger92,

I am laughing uproariously as well!!! R U Kidding! I received the email from GMA and am worried I won’t be able to get in!!!

Bet they will be turning lots of peeps away– NYC will run out of black nail polish!!!LOL!

he has REALLY tough competition.as in
‘disturbia’  level competition.that song was
HUGE. I don’t expect very High sales jmo

Adam will be beat by Rihanna and SuBo, and most likely Shakira too, of that I have no doubt. It is what it is – and Nov 23 is the biggest music release date of the year. So the competition was going to be there no matter what.

BTW – just another thought on FYE vs WWFM – but maybe it’s true that WWFM really was meant to be the first official single (based on the early rumors etc) and it was changed up when they were able to snag the AMA performance, and decided to switch to FYE so that they could literally market it as the premiere of the “fir