Idol Headlines for 08/26/09

The Ohio blogger also posted his interviews with 4/5 idols. Here’s Adam’s interview:

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2009/08/idol-conversation-adam-lambert/

(Others linked on right)

‘Idols Live’ delivers mixed bag of performances

Didn’t really care for this review. I got the feeling the reporter couldn’t decide if Adam was good or if the others were just really bad.

Good ole Scott:

MacIntyre, meanwhile, cited Jimmy Eat World, Matt Nathanson, John Mayer ‘” and himself, in both new and old tracks. ”I released six independent CDs before American Idol,” he said, ”and they’re still floating around out there

Already hindered by an intermission, enthusiasm had dampened by the time winner Kris Allen was set to perform.

What? I would think Allison’s set would be the most ‘hindered’ by the intermission since it is right after, no? I found that after intermission is when the audience was most energized – waiting for the top 4.

I really hated this review even though it was favorable to Adam, once you get past the ‘openly-gay’ ‘eccentric’ stuff. The reviewer comes across both perplexed (calling audience reaction ‘strange’ in that they could appreciate Adam’s set) and disdainful – Kris the “guitar-playing, churchgoing Arkansas native” as if these are somehow mutually exclusive. IDK, maybe I’m just grumpy this morning but this review annoyed me.

From the link LiseE posted

What’s your favorite part of the show?
It’s hard to say. I still love all the songs after doing them this many times. But “Whole Lotta Love” ‘” it’s fun. It’s just a fun song to sing. The groove is cool. And I have fun doing “Fame” during the Bowie medley. It’s very ‘” there’s costume alteration, and I do a little dancing, and it gets quite a reaction from the crowd. So I like that.

It’s nice to hear he’s still enjoying doing the same songs night after night. I think some of them wish they could switch a few.

ETA:

I really hated this review even though it was favorable to Adam, once you get past the ‘openly-gay’ ‘eccentric’ stuff. The reviewer comes across both perplexed (calling audience reaction ‘strange’ in that they could appreciate Adam’s set) and disdainful – Kris the ‘guitar-playing, churchgoing Arkansas native’  as if theses are somehow mutually exclusive. IDK, maybe I’m just grumpy this morning but this review annoyed me.

No you are not grumpy – that whole review sucked. Even the “praise” for Adam couldn’t save it.

No glamheart, it isn’t just you- the comments after the reviewers article pretty much mirror your views.

I thought it was intersting that Adam mentioned another group he is listening to- IAMX. I just checked them out, and now I am kind of wondering if Adam is going to kind of revive an 80′s new wave sound. Think about it- Lady Gaga is nothing more than Missing Persons for the millenium. IAMX sounds alot like Soft Cell. Both of them were New Wave but more rock, almost imagining Marilyn Manson one upping Tainted Love. That would be kind of cool. I could definitely get into that.

Charice Pempengco reveals Christmas duet with David Archuleta

A Twitter account said to be owned by international Filipino singer Charice Pempengco revealed that she had finished recording a duet with ‘American Idol’  2008 runner-up David Archuleta for his forthcoming Christmas album.

The update was uploaded early July 29. The name of the Twitter account is ‘Officialcharice.’ 

And despite fans ‘twitting’ for the young singer to disclose more details about the duet, Charice–yet again on Twitter– could only say that ‘ it’s a duet’  and that fans should ‘wait for it.’ 

Charice also relayed a ‘thank you’  to David Archuleta, saying that ‘[the recording] was such a pleasure to do.’ 

source: Manila Bulletin Publishing Corporation

Whenever I see “Christian rocker” used to describe Daughtry, or “Worship leader” used as THE qualifier for Kris, I know the ugly is coming.

Perhaps the writer in Columbus hasn’t noticed that every year, Idol is won by whoever amasses the votes of those who have been previously voted off.

It also appears that Kris got most of Allison’s votes, since he won California on top 4 week. But, that point would be no fun for the reviewer.

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Already hindered by an intermission, enthusiasm had dampened by the time winner Kris Allen was set to perform.

What a pretzel like twist that one is. He obvioulsy wouldn’t blame Adam for his perceived dampened enthusiasm, so no, we will go back three acts to that intermission.

IMO, this is a hit piece. Nothing more. The guy was still steaming about the finish of a TV show, that ended three months ago.

I’m about as impressed with Charice as I am Susan Boyle (which is to say, not much), but that duet with David A. on his Christmas album could be huge. Oprah LOVES her some Charice, so he could get some serious Oprah pimpage during the holiday season. Go Archie!

BREAKING NEW BULLETIN — TROPICAL STORM DANNY FORMS IN THE ATLANTIC, MAY HIT THE EAST COAST AS A HURRICANE.

They just had to use this name this year, didn’t they?

idol praise – Elliot Yamin album “Fight for Love’ is awesome, favorite track is Cold Heart.

Whenever I see ‘Christian rocker’  used to describe Daughtry,

You meant Danny not Daughtry, right?

The Ohio blogger also posted his interviews with 4/5 idols. Here’s Adam’s interview:

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2009/08/idol-conversation-adam-lambert/

Adam on his debut Album, ‘It’ll get you singing along. It’ll get in your head’ 

Just like TOMT & Mad World? Or Feeling Good & Starlight? ROF & A Change is Gonna Come? or WLL?
Oh God.. I guess my co-workers have to put up with me again when I listen to his songs.

It also appears that Kris got most of Allison’s votes, since he won California on top 4 week. But, that point would be no fun for the reviewer.

Now how would anyone know that?

“SO-SO MATERIAL BY KAYNE WEST, THE KILLERS, BILL WITHERS, AND ROB THOMAS”.

Enough said. Surprised he didn’t include The Beatles with the rest of Kris’ so-so-material.

Maybe the Columbus author tried to have his piece illustrate his title’s thrust: “mixed bag.” That’s what the article itself seemed to be.

Maybe it was me, but I found his opening two paragraphs off-putting, what with the “now” openly gay descriptor and the tired old mention that it’s “strange” that all ages and genders seem to enjoy Adam. Booooooooo…..

Then he totally dissed The Beatles, so essentially he’s dead to me.

ETA: Top 4 week Allison was still there, so I’m thinking Allison got Allison’s votes that week…

BeckyMD
Aug 26th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Whenever I see ‘Christian rocker’  used to describe Daughtry,

You meant Danny not Daughtry, right?

Danny is not a ‘rocker’. No, there was a review of a Daughtry concert just the other day, that used that qualifier for Chris Daughtry, and then proceeded to diss his show.

Filipino singer Charice Pempengco revealed that she had finished recording a duet with ‘American Idol’  2008 runner-up David Archuleta for his forthcoming Christmas album.

Charice = blech for me but I’ll definitely take a listen to the rest of the songs on the album. DA and Christmas songs are made for each other.

IMO, this is a hit piece. Nothing more. The guy was still steaming about the finish of a TV show, that ended three months ago.

I don’t think the reporter could care less about who won, I just think it was a crappy review.

The Ohio blogger also posted his interviews with 4/5 idols. Here’s Adam’s interview:

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2009/08/idol-conversation-adam-lambert/

The interviewer asked some new questions which addressed some Adam fans’ concern.

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If people only know you from seeing you on “American Idol,” are they going to be ready for this album ‘” or are you going somewhere different?

It’s a hard thing to say, because a lot of the music I did on the show was music from the past. It was cover music. I think I got most of my credibility doing a lot of the classic rock stuff. And then “Mad World,” like an ’80s, New Wave song.

So I kind of think that all that matters [on the album] is that I’m singing on it. You know? Hopefully, people will be into it. I think that it’s a hard thing to judge ‘” original music versus songs that you know work. Very different pieces. So I hope people like it.”

On Colbie & Kara,

“The ‘Idol’  judge inspired the young singer/songwriter in the process.”

I am not sure who inspired who. We know that Colbie has her own unique, warm and cozy style of music proven by her multi platinum album and hit songs. Kara’s coronation song, No Boundaries, has tanked. Well, she has written hit songs for others, too. But Kara wants to put her hands on Colbie’s warm sunshiny style of music and let’s see how it turns out. My guess is, right now, that they are totally opposite and won’t go well together.

The Columbus review is just so ridiculous. He doesn’t understand why Adam appeals to everyone, he goes back to the intermission as part of the problem w/ Kris’s set, and thinks Megan wears a wig. Seriously – this just sounds like a reviewer that didn’t even want to be at the concert and then wrote a half-hearted, lack-luster review.

Squirrely
Aug 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
IMO, this is a hit piece. Nothing more. The guy was still steaming about the finish of a TV show, that ended three months ago.

I don’t think the reporter could care less about who won, I just think it was a crappy review.

Squirrely, I think it is VERY clear that the reviewer cared very much. That is why he brought the Christian issue into his review.

That ‘so-so’ song by Kanye West, is probably going to get at least a Grammy nom for song of the year.

Danny is not a ‘rocker’. No, there was a review of a Daughtry concert just the other day, that used that qualifier for Chris Daughtry, and then proceeded to diss his show.

Thanks for the clarification. I’m easily confused when people combine their comments on several separate reviews on seemly individual events and generalize them…

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Whenever I see ‘Christian rocker’  used to describe Daughtry,

You meant Danny not Daughtry, right?
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Daughtry is sometimes referred to as a “Christian” who is a rocker. See recent San Francisco Gate, August 22nd article, by Aidin Vaziri. MJ had it in her headlines, so I won’t relink it as it was on Saturday.

ETA: Couple of good David Cook interviews

Kids Corp with a precocious 7 year old interviewer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQBntMMPywQ

(Seattle) Evening Magazine
http://www.king5.com/video/eveningmagazine-index.html?nvid=392417

It also appears that Kris got most of Allison’s votes, since he won California on top 4 week. But, that point would be no fun for the reviewer.

Where do I find this information? I didn’t know AI broke the votes down into who won each state? I’d like to see this.

We know that Colbie has her own unique, warm and cozy style of music proven by her multi platinum album and hit songs. Kara’s coronation song, No Boundaries, has tanked. Well, she has written hit songs for others, too. But Kara wants to put her hands on Colbie’s warm sunshiny style of music and let’s see how it turns out. My guess is, right now, that they are totally opposite and won’t go well together.

I definitely wouldn’t write Kara off just because No Boundaries sucked. According to the americanidol.com press release Kara is pretty impressive.

One of the industry’s most sought after songwriters and producers, DioGuardi’s songs have appeared on more than 100 million records. Over the last four years, she has been awarded 10 BMI Pop Awards for having written the most performed songs on radio. From her catalog of several hundred songs, over 264 have been released on major labels worldwide; and over 165 have appeared on multi-platinum selling albums. DioGuardi co-owns Arthouse Entertainment, where she develops and mentors fellow hit writers, producers and artists.

Her songwriting and production discography is extensive and has some impressive/extremely successful songs.

And this is JMO but Colbie’s album had like 3 good songs, which was definitely enough to sell the album to great success, but the rest of it was sooo BO-RING. It’s a good thing she’s trying to grow and improve.

Scott really does live in a fantasy world, doesn’t he? He promotes his pre-Idol independent CDs every chance he gets; I’d love for an interviewer to ask him how many have sold since the tour started.

It also appears that Kris got most of Allison’s votes, since he won California on top 4 week. But, that point would be no fun for the reviewer.

Where do I find this information? I didn’t know AI broke the votes down into who won each state? I’d like to see this.

I think Vada referred to dialidol’s data? But I remember Allison was still in the game on top 4 week…

Oh, dialidol. Didn’t it have Kris in the bottom three or going home several times. It declared the final “too close to call”. Is dialidol considered to be accurate?

Uh-oh. Jordin’s getting good reviews for her singing on the Britney tour (deservedly so, I’m sure). Wonder how long before Britney feels threatened and demands that she be thrown off the tour for showing up BS’s current lack of singing skills? lol

Tweet from Kellie Pickler this morning (she’s in NY for the Today Show)
@therealpickler I feel like one of the girls in Sex and the City-minus the “sex”….I LOVE NYC!!

Sweet tweet from Matt:

MGiraudOfficialCan’t believe my grandma will get to see me sing to 10′s of thousands of people tonight. She used to cry when I played drums in church : D
about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon

Vada, I was actually addressing BeckyMD. I pulled both your comments. That’s why I referenced the SF Gate article in the first place.

David Cook’s lead guitarist, Neal Tiemann, is on twitter now.
@nealfingtiemann
“i hope the plane tomorrow has enough booze for me and gabe. seattle radio show, you will be slayed. jason from crash kings is my hero.”

and from David Cook

thedavidcook Good morning all. @nealfingtiemann and I are doing an acoustic lounge @KPLZ today. We meet again, Seattle. ~D

From that Adam interview he sounds like there’s nothing in common between the new album and the music he did on the show. Only bonding thing is him singing. I think he may have some ballad in his album, but that’s not the direction he’s going. According to his producer list, I think he’s going to more of a kelly clarkson and Xtina direction.

Fallen Idol Abdul ???? . where did she fall from?. she just quit a job that’s not a criminal offence . anyway i seriously hope the vegas thing works out . it sounds like a better fit and she doesn’t have to be on tv everyday cos any tv gig she takes will be compared to idol and wld not measure up since idol is no 1 show.

Aug 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
‘SO-SO MATERIAL BY KAYNE WEST, THE KILLERS, BILL WITHERS, AND ROB THOMAS’ .

Enough said. Surprised he didn’t include The Beatles with the rest of Kris’ so-so-material.

Well as I said last night, I agree with the reviewer on Rob Thomas’s and Kayne West’s material being so-so. I don’t care if either or both are or were popular, as songs go? I think they’re so-so. Bill Withers ANS and The Beatles on the other hand…not so much on the mediocre. I like The Killers, but they’re not great, but certainly better than Matchbox 20, but than that’s not hard to do.

I don’t think that Columbus review was a hit piece with an agenda, or if it had an agenda, it’s a very muddy one because it was weird towards Adam as well. What with “now openly gay,” and being mystified that different ages and genders might possibly enjoy Adam, what with his being an openly gay guy. So if it’s a “hit piece,” it’s really to the whole show, except for some odd (to him I’m sure) relative bright spots. Eh. Seems typical of those people who don’t like Idol and are forced to go and review it. Oh well.

I was actually at the Cleveland Ohio concert and I do have to say that before intermission it was rather dull with the exception of Matt..
Danny got a lot of love….Adam Had a great “performance” but nothing was hindered by the time Kris was on stage..He had a massive response from the crowd and people were still on their feet.
On the down side DSB was a mess they all seemed to be thinking way too much and you could tell, at some point they even forgot to sing a part of the song. Maybe the reviewer meant it hindered by the time DSB was on…(Yeah thats what they ment…)

Uh-oh. Jordin’s getting good reviews for her singing on the Britney tour (deservedly so, I’m sure). Wonder how long before Britney feels threatened and demands that she be thrown off the tour for showing up BS’s current lack of singing skills? lol

If I were Britney I would feel threatened, especially since supposedly she lipsynchs her songs.

It’s a hard thing to say, because a lot of the music I did on the show was music from the past. It was cover music. I think I got most of my credibility doing a lot of the classic rock stuff. And then ‘Mad World,’  like an ’80s, New Wave song.

So I kind of think that all that matters [on the album] is that I’m singing on it. You know? Hopefully, people will be into it. I think that it’s a hard thing to judge ‘” original music versus songs that you know work. Very different pieces. So I hope people like it.’ 

So, what is on the album has nothing to do with the material he covered during the show…
At least it’s not a surprise since we saw it coming weeks ago with all the producers working on his album.

“Already hindered by an intermission, enthusiasm had dampened by the time winner Kris Allen was set to perform.”

What a pretzel like twist that one is. He obvioulsy wouldn’t blame Adam for his perceived dampened enthusiasm, so no, we will go back three acts to that intermission.

I thought he might be referring to the fact that the intermission lengthened an already long concert and Kris’ set was most affected because it’s the last one. Also, he seemed to use the terms “churchgoing” to describe Kris and “worship leader” to describe Danny so as to link them and thereby explain how the votes got transferred in the Final. ???

Regardless, if you have to work that hard to figure out what someone’s trying to say, he’s not communicating very effectively! It was a messy review.

Lady Gaga is nothing more than Missing Persons for the millenium.

It’s funny that you say that, because I’ve always thought she was Dale Bozzio v2.0. I thought it was just me!

I keep getting emails from my Adam google search regarding Donorschoose.org, a good number of blogs are posting his video message and/or plugging the program. This is really cool.

David Cook’s lead guitarist, Neal Tiemann, is on twitter now.

Gee what a shock he tweeted twice about booze already LOL Neal being on Twitter has got to be a sign of the Apocalypse, well that and Mr. I Will Never Get a Twitter Because Its Useless admitting its addicting :laugh_tb:

Speaking of..he gets a mention in this NY Daily News article about celebrities that Twittered about Ted Kennedy.

And a new tweet from Kris aw!

KrisAllen4Real 90000!!! Wow. Very excite (Borat voice). Not as excited as I am for tonight and my boi @MGiraudOfficial. Detroit is gonna bring it.

KrisAllen4Real

90000!!! Wow. Very excite (Borat voice). Not as excited as I am for tonight and my boi @MGiraudOfficial. Detroit is gonna bring it.
2 minutes ago from TwitterFon

Awwww. I am already getting excited for Matty tonight.

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http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/chris-brown-is-sentenced-for-attack/?src=twt&twt=nytimes

Gee what a shock he tweeted twice about booze already LOL

That and the gun around his neck seems like posturing to me.

So, what is on the album has nothing to do with the material he covered during the show’ ¦

Isn’t this a problem for all of the Idols when their records come out. I’ll be first to raise my hand because I don’t like the juvenile tweeny pop that David Archuleta is doing and miss his big ballads and emotional songs and that is why I am sure I will like his Christmas album a lot more than his freshman effort. But then David, himself, chose to emphasize his ballads and really was pretty bad when he popped it up on idol.

With Adam, though, I think he brought enough diversity to his performances that I couldn’t box him in and therefore didn’t just fall in love with ballad Adam, but I know a lot of people did. And of course the audience that isn’t enthralled with any kind of techno music and likes accoustic or orchestral background will have a hard time relating to the new Adam.

But since, like David A. is to me, all singers cannot please everyone…so Adam will loose the undying love from a few. Yet, I still like my Archie and when he performs a “grown up concert” I’ll be first in line…and I hope Adam fans will also keep their love intact and buy a few ballad singles.

Oh good, I’m not the only one who doesn’t think Charice is the 2nd coming, no matter what David Foster and Oprah keep telling me. Kudos to Archie though for snagging her for his Christmas album when she has those big guns behind her

Neal is on Twitter now? awesommmmee!

And yay for Kris hitting 90k followers! not bad considering I am told he has no fans. :happy_tb:

Isn’t this a problem for all of the Idols when their records come out.

No, a lot of idols made good connections between their music identities in the album and in the show, like Carrie, Daughtry, Clay (partly). Their audience have a good idea what kind of album they are going to put out.

I can’t blame Adam because his genre in the show is 30 years old and he’s not going to revive that. He will have to try something current and hope the audience accept him.

I can’t blame Adam because his genre in the show is 30 years old and he’s not going to revive that. He will have to try something current and hope the audience accept him.

But aren’t these the songs that Adam chose to do on the show? The one time I expected him to go really current (Top 9 week) he still went old. In fact, I think Matt was the only one that went really current that night (maybe Allison was also somewhat current since I don’t remember what year her song was from). He also could have gone pretty current on his personal choice on Top 3 week (like Kris did). So now I am confused as to what Adam really is going to do.

So, what is on the album has nothing to do with the material he covered during the show’ ¦

On the show Adam covered Rock, Funk, Ballad, Motown and New-age music. How each of us chooses to define Adam depends on which of the songs we liked most, and has very little to do with how he defined himself on the show – as an eclectic artist who can, and will sing anything he likes.

The way Adam describes his album seems to me pretty much as he performed on AI; Different genres, with nothing but his voice, and modern synthetic production linking them.

I can’t blame Adam because his genre in the show is 30 years old and he’s not going to revive that. He will have to try something current and hope the audience accept him.

What is Adam’s “genre in the show”??

But aren’t these the songs that Adam chose to do on the show? The one time I expected him to go really current (Top 9 week) he still went old. In fact, I think Matt was the only one that went really current that night (maybe Allison was also somewhat current since I don’t remember what year her song was from). He also could have gone pretty current on his personal choice on Top 3 week (like Kris did). So now I am confused as to what Adam really is going to do.

What you do in the show to get votes are different from what you do now to sell albums. Don’t forget the idol watcher’s averge age is 45 or something like that. Adam also favors glory notes which is more frequent in the 70′s rock than the current songs.

I think a lot of the problem with Adam doing electronic or dance music on the show is that it just wasn’t going to sound well with Bandzilla on tv. He did try to electronic up BTBW and it was hard to hear that side of it on tv, compared to the studio. So I think he stuck with songs he knew he could sing.

I’m very excited to hear the new music he’s coming up with.

He did try to electronic up BTBW and it was hard to hear that side of it on tv, compared to the studio. So I think he stuck with songs he knew he could sing.

Exactly- he took a risk on that one, and because the band just isn’t equipped to handle something like that, it didn’t pay off too well because only a few people realized what he was going for.

I would like to point out though that he did do a new version ( Muse’s) of Feeling Good. His taste is too eclectic for alot of people to catch on.

I think the reason people are anticipating his album IS because of his unpredictability. Everyone is HOPING it’s going to be something new and fresh, and just like on the show, people cannot wait to see what he is going to do next.

I’m really excited about Adam’s music too and I have no problems with his descriptions for his album. Adam performed many different genres of music on AI but at the heart of all of them was his fantastic voice. He’s talked of his voice being the defining force of his album and I’m sure it will be. Wanting to reach the AI audience, as well as, the non-AI audience is a good thing. He’s tapping into what’s current right now, from the descriptions of his music.

All of these artists will not be exactly what they were on the show. One quote from Kris that stuck out to me from the L.A. Times interview was this one:

“I think the vision that I have for the first album is so hard to put into words. I know that it’s going to be music that people like and something that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever. I hope that it’s something that grabs people lyrically-wise, subject matter and even musically as well, but something that’s different from what people are doing right now.”

I always got the impression that Kris’s music would be like what’s on the charts now, the singer/songwriter vibe in the fashion of Matchbox 20, Matt Kearney, John Mayer and Matt Nathanson. From the vague description above, I think Kris has some surprises in store and won’t be exactly like he was on AI either. I’ll definitely be interested in the planned surprises he has in store.

So now I am confused as to what Adam really is going to do.

But waiting for the unknown is so much more exciting than anticipating the inevitable.
One of the reasons Muse and Kasabian are so exciting, is that you never know what direction they’ll move in next. Each album is an evolution, a change a new piece of the jigsaw that is the band’s identity.

Please, don’t think I’m comparing Adam to either Muse or Kasabian because I’m not. I’m just speaking about the ability of some bands to circumvent genre restriction and continually surprise their fans.
Frankly, with an Idol album, I’m just hoping that Adam’s CD rises above mediocrity.

How are you feeling today, Cindy M. Heard you were worried you had the H1N1, which has supposedly hit Los Alamos.

And yay for Kris hitting 90k followers! not bad considering I am told he has no fans.

lulwut
Aug 26th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Come on now, you know they are the Danny followers, and AT&T has a pretty huge employee base.

Scream-laughing here! Best line of the day, and the day is still young. I don’t see anyone topping that one though.

Kris was the last of the top 10, if I recall correctly, to be dragged against his will to the world of twitter. He has adapted nicely.

Re the review(s): Every reviewer who gives Kris a less than glowing review is not an “AI hater who doesn’t want to be at the show”; every reviewer who gives Adam a less than glowing review is not a homophobe; every reviewer who questions why Adam didn’t win is not a bitterbert who can’t get over a competition that ended 3 months ago; every reviewer who didn’t like Matt/Danny/Allison/etc. is not dumb, cruel, deaf, not paying attention etc. A reviewer is paid to see a show and write about his/her opinion of what they saw. They are not paid to treat everyone fairly or say something nice about everyone — be it Adam or Kris or Danny or Megan or any of them. One thing that does seem fairly consistent in the reviews is that in general the reviewers/bloggers who regularly follow and write about AI have been more glowing in their reviews of Kris (and most of the other idols) than the reviewers who do not regularly write about the show. And that Adam, with a few exceptions (eg NY Post), has been getting stellar reviews across the board. Which would indicate to me that Adam is –at least at the moment, and based upon live performances — impressing more of the “outside the AI bubble” people than the other idols.

I think a lot of the problem with Adam doing electronic or dance music on the show is that it just wasn’t going to sound well with Bandzilla on tv. He did try to electronic up BTBW and it was hard to hear that side of it on tv, compared to the studio. So I think he stuck with songs he knew he could sing.

I’m very excited to hear the new music he’s coming up with.

He didn’t really do an electronic version of the song live, he didn’t even try to my mind and that’s just as welll, because the studio version sucked and no way that the live band could do a good job with creating an good electronic sound. They didn’t have the equipment or expertise to do so.

But than there isn’t any hip-hop or rap or electronic music on the show, not really, and those things are popular now. So if artists are going to try and do those things outside the AI show, it’s probably going to be new to the audience, but it won’t be new to music buying audience outside of the show, because well, they’re making that stuff popular.

And yay for Kris hitting 90k followers! not bad considering I am told he has no fans.

Come on now, you know they are the Danny followers, and AT&T has a pretty huge employee base.

I must admit I follow Kris in hopes of news about Adam. Ditto Danny and the others. I suspect a lot of followers have similar motivations.

ravengirl
Aug 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
How are you feeling today, Cindy M. Heard you were worried you had the H1N1, which has supposedly hit Los Alamos.

Still not feeling good. Have a call in to see if I can see the doctor today. Still coughing, tired, congested, no appetite, light-headed etc. I’ve been on antibiotics for 9 days already and feel not much better than when I started them.

Charice

Who?

Aug 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
‘SO-SO MATERIAL BY KAYNE WEST, THE KILLERS, BILL WITHERS, AND ROB THOMAS’ .

Enough said. Surprised he didn’t include The Beatles with the rest of Kris’ so-so-material.

it’s the reviewer personal opinion, for what it’s worthed.
What is dumb is when they expressed their dislike/indifference as being the opinion of a majority.

(Kris) I know that it’s going to be music that people like and something that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever.

That to me is really an ambitious goal. I’m curious about the surprise that Kris keeps using to describe his coming album. He did surprise some people during the show because he changed old songs and added his own interpretation. The surprise came from un-anticipation. However, when you make original songs, it’s much harder to *surprise* music fans because now the songs are being judged with the whole music spectrum or at least all songs in a certain genre, in a much larger scope than the setting of the show where cover is only compared to the original song.

He didn’t really do an electronic version of the song live, he didn’t even try to my mind and that’s just as welll, because the studio version sucked and no way that the live band could do a good job with creating an good electronic sound. They didn’t have the equipment or expertise to do so.

Actually he did try to do the electronic version live, he has said as much, and if you listen closely you can tell in the opening drum beats, but the sound was drowned out.

Kris mentioned having Aranda on his iPhone yesterday, and having no idea who they may be, I had to Google.

They are a rock band, fronted by brothers, with a very good album that got largely overlooked. But they didn’t escape the notice of another Idol.

Kelly Clarkson covers two of their songs on her ‘All I Ever Wanted’ CD. They are the title track and Whyyawannabringmedown. Dameon Aranda even sings backup for her.

A gratuitous Adam Lambert mention, it was good for a giggle – never heard of this band before either.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2009/08/artist_of_the_week_drop_those.php

The guys does favor Adam in this picture.

That and the gun around his neck seems like posturing to me.

Wait, what? Neal has a gun around his neck??

Anyway, I don’t know enough about him to say for sure he’s posturing or not, but it just seems to me like he just really likes drinking. A lot of guys his age do. Don’t think it’s that deep.

Kris was the last of the top 10, if I recall correctly, to be dragged against his will to the world of twitter. He has adapted nicely.

Kris wasn’t the last of the top 10 to join Twitter. Allison, Megan & Lil all joined after him.

(Kris) I know that it’s going to be music that people like and something that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever.

Did we hear this kind of music from Kris “on the show”? I remember most his stuff having an acoustic feel. Should I be expecting mostly acoustic on his album?

I’ll be interested to see what kind of music he is going to record… especially if it is something we have never heard before.

Hey MJ! Don’t know if you found this or not but it’s David Cook on Evening Magazine from last night–short interview:

http://www.king5.com/video/eveningmagazine-index.html?nvid=392417

A gratuitous Adam Lambert mention, it was good for a giggle – never heard of this band before either.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2009/08/artist_of_the_week_drop_those.php

The guys does favor Adam in this picture.

I don’t get the connection of Adam being brought up in this interview.

It’s funny that you say that, because I’ve always thought she was Dale Bozzio v2.0. I thought it was just me!

It didn’t really hit me until I saw her for the first time. She totally rips off Bozzio. Can’t say that I am pissed about it though, because I loved me some Missing Persons.

“I’ll be interested to see what kind of music he is going to record’ ¦ especially if it is something we have never heard before.”

Me too. I cannot imagine what he could be even talking about unless it’s acoustic hip hop like Heartless, but that’s not even new.

“I don’t get the connection of Adam being brought up in this interview.”

BestAI:

I think this is just another case of the “If I Mention Adam Lambert I’ll Get More Hits on My Blog” syndrome. There’s a lot of it going around lately.

On a side note, I still can’t figure out which one of these guys is supposed to look like Adam …

I don’t get the connection of Adam being brought up in this interview.

I guessing that in the picture the guy who is second in from the right is named Blake and he’s the one who looks like a “fatter Adam Lambert.”

edit: the fanwarring gets so old…so so old

The Ohio blogger also posted his interviews with 4/5 idols. Here’s Adam’s interview:

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2009/08/idol-conversation-adam-lambert/

I love how Adam calls the sexy stripping of his jacket a “costume alteration”.LOL! Only Adam.

Tonight is the first of two “homecoming” concerts for Matt. He tweeted that his grandma will be there tonight. I hope this concert lives up to his expectations and that he gets even more love than he’s been getting on the tour so far.

Here is an oped piece on Brain Cancer and Ted Kennedy and our own David Cook is mentioned: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Honoring-Ted-Kennedy-and-D-by-Phyllis-Huster-090826-124.html

It is political but makes a point about brain cancer research here is the part about David:

Which is why it may take a Democrat to die of brain cancer to explain to the world the very serious danger of this one disease. Others have died. American Idol David Cook’s brother died in May and 9,000 racegoers in DC collectively cried with David as he described his courageous brother Adam’s brave fight with the disease. Now David Cook donates proceeds from his albums to research. David, at least is one human who gets the importance of parting with a few of his own pennies to help others who need help. Ashton, go visit with David for a while.

Two thumbs-up on the ohio.com interviews. Is Scott reading different reviews than are available to the rest of us? He keeps stating things re: his reviews that I have never read before. Seriously, it is important to have a good self image/ego in the music business, but he just irks me. I really liked Sarver’s interview. Although I was dubious at first, I really do think he is sincere that this experience has opened his eyes/heart/mind to different types of people. When you think about how small his world was prior to AI, and now he has been living and touring with a hispanic teenager, a Mormon (I think) tatooed, single mother, an Indian-American graduate student, an African-American mother of 3, a gay, jewish californian, a blind piano playing/Marshall scholarship winner from Arizona, a widower from Milwaukee, a dueling piano player from Michigan, and a married Arkansan, and that they are all just people with the same hopes, dreams and aspirations as he and his family, it can really change a person’s perspective. OK, my kumbaya musings are finished.

I don’t get the connection of Adam being brought up in this interview.

I guessing that in the picture the guy who is second in from the right is named Blake and he’s the one who looks like a ‘fatter Adam Lambert.’ 

Duh! I guess I had AI on my beanie brain. I skimmed through the article and thought Blake Lewis was the fatter Adam. I couldn’t make that connection either. I thought BL fat? That is funny.

I think this is just another case of the ‘If I Mention Adam Lambert I’ll Get More Hits on My Blog’  syndrome. There’s a lot of it going around lately.

So true, so true. I can’t get over how Adam is being mentioned everywhere, even when it doesn’t even pertain to him. LOL

Adam mention in Rockstar Weekly, http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/776/149/

Per the artilce: “Lambert’s first song, the single from the soundtrack for 2012, should be released long before the Nov. 13 release date for the film.”

First single will be the soundtrack.
Great news, if in fact this is true??? :clap_tb:

I always got the impression that Kris’s music would be like what’s on the charts now,

Or not.

Most recent Tweet:

KrisAllen4Real: Just finished The Alchemist. Great read.

The Alchemist! Kris has said his album will be different. And all him. And he has also said, paraphrasing, that he runs on the stealth plan. The undetected until, surprise, he’s right there. All those faces he makes when he sings – that spirit is what’s going to be on the album. Or at least we can hope.

Has anyone seen Adam’s tweet to allison? If I’m reading it correctly she’s going to be on LA for 3 weeks? Squirrly I know you can fig this one out for us, please!

tour ends adam goes back to LA ali22san lives there.

Has anyone seen Adam’s tweet to allison? If I’m reading it correctly she’s going to be on LA for 3 weeks? Squirrly I know you can fig this one out for us, please!

This is Alison Porter, Adam’s good friend in LA. Adam said he will be back in LA after the tour is over.

David Cook’s downloaded digital sheet music will be available from Musicnotes.com according to this article:

http://www.sys-con.com/node/1083966

Tnx guys must still be tired from last night I knew it didn’t make sense.

MacIntyre, meanwhile, cited Jimmy Eat World, Matt Nathanson, John Mayer ‘” and himself, in both new and old tracks. ”I released six independent CDs before American Idol,” he said, ”and they’re still floating around out there.”

Wow – sorry, I want to love Scott more (he is a sweet guy) but seriously, he couldn’t go one minute without throwing out another self-promotion? Seriously?

Re Adam’s music on the show: imo choosing new material is very rarely a smart move. Almost all attempts at it just fail (see: Matt’s worst nights). Kris was most successful by changing up older songs (or one newer one with Heartless) Adam similarly was very smart not to cover new material and risk sounding like a copycat. Instead, he put his funky, rock, pop, electonic spin on older songs. I could totally nail down his style on the show. And though it was eclectic, it was also unmistakably Adam. JMO.

Second day total amount raised for MusiCares from the sale of @adamlambert designed “Eye of Horus” pendant… $25,850!!! 5 more days to go!

Kind of surprised that more were purchased the second day…

David Cook’s downloaded digital sheet music will be available from Musicnotes.com according to this article:http://www.sys-con.com/node/1083966

Ooh, that’s cool! I need new piano music

Wow – sorry, I want to love Scott more (he is a sweet guy) but seriously, he couldn’t go one minute without throwing out another self-promotion? Seriously?

Well in less then 3 weeks will scott have a chance to self-promote any better then RIGHT NOW.NO,scott knows that so i don’t blame him 1 bit.Other then alison,kris and adam the rest are thrown back on the street then.Its a better street then it was a year ago but still a street.

(Kris) I know that it’s going to be music that people like and something that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever.

BeckyMD
Aug 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

That to me is really an ambitious goal. I’m curious about the surprise that Kris keeps using to describe his coming album. He did surprise some people during the show because he changed old songs and added his own interpretation. The surprise came from un-anticipation. However, when you make original songs, it’s much harder to *surprise* music fans because now the songs are being judged with the whole music spectrum or at least all songs in a certain genre, in a much larger scope than the setting of the show where cover is only compared to the original song.

I think, if you take it in context, he was just saying that he had no intention of being a Jason Mraz clone, as the judges had been saying for months.

He wants to have his own sound, that people will equate with him, rather than being called Mayer-like, or Mraz-jr.

He didn’t say he planned to re-invent pop music.

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Steve, I agree. Scott is smart to promote his music every chance he gets. The others should be doing the same. Yes, it does get old, for those who hear all of the interviews, so I pick and choose interviews now. I don’t need to hear them all.

The dispatch reviewer is the kind that Kris spoke about in the interview with Sleazak!
” Why are you here if you don’t want to. We don’t want you here”
Kris was right, it’s like the guy was tied up and dumped there to write a review. He’s stupid! that’s all

Wow, you guys are too fast for me. Already answered.

According to an Archie fan who happens to have connections with Sony-Germany, during an FOD chat that took place Monday, David’s Christmas album will be available to Germans as a digital download at the beginning of November.

During that same chat, someone from Singapore reported that Sony-Singapore will be releasing the album around October 13th for her country. In fact, she said that it is available for preorder now. Each album that is preordered will come with some sort of freebie (yet to be determined). Here’s a link to the David Archuleta Singapore site which gives directions on how to preorder it: http://davidarchuleta.sg/exclusive-pre-order-christmas-from-the-heart-now/

There have been reports that one of the songs is a traditional Latino Christmas song. We also know that David was actually practicing some lyrics in French, of all things, http://img27.yfrog.com/i/1xu.jpg/ during one of his recording sessions. I take these as indications that the Christmas album will be an international release and has been designed accordingly.

In keeping with this design, I think they selected Charice partly to attract some of the Asian market. I myself have never heard her sing so I can’t comment on her singing, but I do know that she is very famous and popular in her country.

He doesn’t understand why Adam appeals to everyone

No offense, but it’s pretty obvious why Adam wouldn’t appeal to everyone. Not everybody likes rock or the “rocker wail” thing he does. Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve of mine when people say “everyone should like so-and-so” because it’s just opinion, not fact >_>. Not really anti-Adam except for that wail thing.

Anyway, I liked the Lil interview. She seemed to be enjoying herself very much, and I giggled with her. I think she just needs to find herself more as an artist. A lot more. She was my first favorite, and I still have faith that she can do something, she just needs to do her own thing more. Something about her Get Ready and Be Without You performances had something in them (Admittedly just that one line, “Get ready, cuz here Lil come” and “Call this show” won me over ). She has a great voice, she just needs to control the pitch more and not be anybody else but herself.

I love Colbie Caillat and Bone Thugs, it would be interesting to see a collaboration. Might be weird, but you never know until you see.

No offense, but it’s pretty obvious why Adam wouldn’t appeal to everyone. Not everybody likes rock or the ‘rocker wail’  thing he does. Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve of mine when people say ‘everyone should like so-and-so’  because it’s just opinion, not fact >_>. Not really anti-Adam except for that wail thing.

By appealing to everyone I meant that he appeals to young, old, gay straight – I’m actually not an Adam fan either

Second day total amount raised for MusiCares from the sale of @adamlambert designed ‘Eye of Horus’  pendant’ ¦ $25,850!!! 5 more days to go!

Kind of surprised that more were purchased the second day’ ¦

Spring, I think this is total since midnight Monday.

KrisAllen4RealJust finished The Alchemist. Great read.41 minutes ago from TwitterFon

just when i thought i couldn’t like Kris more! The Alchemist is amazing! Kris is amazing! sigh

As for Adam’s music on the show versus anticipated album, it’s really hard to say for me. Thinking back, I’m unsure what Adam did on the show that anyone really expects him to do now. It was that kind of “set list,” if you will.

Adam was showcasing his voice, his range, his showmanship, his personal (not necessarily musical) style more than a genre or music type. And, I believe that’s what he sold the AI viewers. So, while it’s hard to say with any certainty that expectations created on the show (regarding Adam’s music) won’t hurt future popularity or sales, I really don’t believe so. That, and a dollar won’t buy you much though.

Hi people(waves)

oh Scott.that is all.:)

Btw I love Adam and will buy his album . and I really really LOVED btbw

Second day total amount raised for MusiCares from the sale of @adamlambert designed ‘Eye of Horus’  pendant’ ¦ $25,850!!! 5 more days to go!

Kind of surprised that more were purchased the second day’ ¦

Unbelievable. So far (counting the first 100), $50,900 going to MusiCares because of Adam’s pendant. I believe they will make their goal of $100,000.

BeckyMD
Aug 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
(Kris) I know that it’s going to be music that people like and something that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever.

That to me is really an ambitious goal. I’m curious about the surprise that Kris keeps using to describe his coming album. He did surprise some people during the show because he changed old songs and added his own interpretation. The surprise came from un-anticipation. However, when you make original songs, it’s much harder to *surprise* music fans because now the songs are being judged with the whole music spectrum or at least all songs in a certain genre, in a much larger scope than the setting of the show where cover is only compared to the original son

I hope his first album is good, but as far as making music that is something that people maybe haven’t heard before….like you say, an ambitious goal…and, one that would be IMPOSSIBLE to accomplish given the time parameters!

Okay. Revisiting that “Pop Culture” blog that was linked to after David Cook’s recent concert in Sacramento where the writer also posted a video showing David reprimanding some over zealous fans who are inadvertently pushing littler fans up against a fence.

It seems there was some fall-out to that video:

David Cook fans have East Coast/West Coast beef!
Posted by Courtney Rice on August 25, 2009 at 11:00pm

http://www.popculturejunkie.net/profiles/blogs/david-cook-fans-have-east

(Oh, there’s a minor mention of Adam in her comments.)

Hmm…I like that the reviewer seemed to appreciate Adam’s talent, and Allison’s, and i disagreed with him about Kris. He didn’t come across as having an agenda or bitter about the outcome of the season one way or another. But he did seem unnecessarily condescending with all the worship-leader stuff and the talk about finding it surprising that an audience of straight women and guys could be so into Adam (because straight people can only appreciate other straight people?). Plus, the review was not terribly well-written–it was hard to follow his exact meaning at certain points. The reviews from Cleveland were better, they actually discussed each person’s performance. But that’s why you don’t get too bogged down in one review and instead look at the whole sweep of them.

Based on what I’ve heard, pretty much everyone who comes off the show is going to sound different on their albums. I didn’t watch last season, but I have seen a few clips of Cook and heard some stuff from his album, and the two don’t sound much alike. My guess is that will be true of Kris, Adam, and Allison as well–I highly doubt any of them will sound exactly like what they did on the show, possibly not even close to it, although that will probably be even truer of Adam than of the others. I do like what he’s said about having those classic rock influences in a more modern form in his music–that sounds potentially promising, at least as an indicator of vocal style if not of sound as well.

Shit.it’s 2:30 and I’m still partially asleep;(

MacIntyre, meanwhile, cited Jimmy Eat World, Matt Nathanson, John Mayer ‘” and himself, in both new and old tracks. ‘ I released six independent CDs before American Idol,’  he said, ‘ and they’re still floating around out there.’ 

Wow – sorry, I want to love Scott more (he is a sweet guy) but seriously, he couldn’t go one minute without throwing out another self-promotion? Seriously?

I’m not a fan of his or anything, but the tour will be over soon, he doesn’t have a record deal, he doesn’t have the buzz of most of the other idols, no exciting projects on the horizon… Why begrudge the poor guy a little self-promotion? God knows no one else is doing it for him. Most struggling musicians are forced to sell themselves, so I don’t hold it against him.

luvadamlambert
Aug 26th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Shit.it’s 2:30 and I’m still partially asleep;(

That is why parents set bed times so you can enjoy your school day wide awake. :eek_wp:

Well in less then 3 weeks will scott have a chance to self-promote any better then RIGHT NOW.NO,scott knows that so i don’t blame him 1 bit.Other then alison,kris and adam the rest are thrown back on the street then.Its a better street then it was a year ago but still a street.

Yep. This is the flip side of that argument.

Scott annoys the crap out of me sometimes, especially when he makes these statements that sound downright self-delusional (to those of us who follow this stuff too closely). But truly, the average person who might run across these blurbs has no clue and Scott saying that he’s midway through producing material for his new record (on top of the other six CD’s floating around out there) might sound fairly impressive to others. Someone like Lil or even Anoop who has gotten mixed reviews like Scott (although Anoop’s have been more positive) always sounds so much more tentative and frankly a little bit beaten down by this process. Scott has an instinct for self-promotion and a core of confidence that consistently comes through in his interviews and frankly I think Scott is much more likely to earn a living in this business because of it. He may not be super successful, but I think he’ll be one of those Idols still plugging away and supporting himself 10 to 15 years down the road. Most of the others … not so much.

I’m not a fan of his or anything, but the tour will be over soon, he doesn’t have a record deal, he doesn’t have the buzz of most of the other idols, no exciting projects on the horizon’ ¦ Why begrudge the poor guy a little self-promotion? God knows no one else is doing it for him. Most struggling musicians are forced to sell themselves, so I don’t hold it against him.

He did say he had a book deal. Don’t know how many people will buy his book, however.

I think because if anyone else was doing this, it wouldn’t come across as arrogant. Scott has been promoting himself since his first inteview, and not just his music (how smart he is, etc.). I hope he is able to make a decent living from his music; it is his passion and seems to have been working towards it for a long, long time.

Scott might make a living but he clearly thinks he should be a star. He’ll be very disappointed in about a year when his bubble is burst.

I enjoyed all the Diana DeGarmo updates today. Now THAT is a young woman who has made her own career. Her broadway.com interview was a really nice look at 22 year old Diana. She covered everything from meeting her current boyfriend in a bar to what it is like for an ex-idol in the entertainment industry to what it is like wearing skimpy clothing in her new Broadway show. I worry about teens in the entertainment industry and the impact of all the ups and downs but Diana has certainly navigated it well and seems to be a terrific young woman.

Check this out, Cassidy tried out for idol this season with inspiration from Adam, sadly he didn’t go far but I don’t think it matters now, his name is getting out there.

oops here’s the link: http://tinyurl.com/houston-cassidy

Scott might make a living but he clearly thinks he should be a star. He’ll be very disappointed in about a year when his bubble is burst.

I view it more as Scott believing he’s got something to sell that other people want. Artists need to believe in themselves and their talent or they don’t stand a chance of making it.

Ha! This is the most I have written (or thought) about Scott since Season 7 began! *going back to check for more Adam videos and news now*

Check this out, Cassidy tried out for idol this season with inspiration from Adam, sadly he didn’t go far but I don’t think it matters now, his name is getting out there.

His music is pretty good, I really like ‘Midnight Sun’. I didn’t view the link (at work) but for some reason I thought he would be to old for AI.

I think Scott is talented, but his singing voice and stage presence is not good enough IMO to make it as an entertainer in his own right. However, i would not be surprised if he had a very successful career as a composer, arranger, producer etc. for others. I think his talents are best put to use behind the spotlight, not in front of it.

Can an artist introduce or promote his work without exaggerating the significance of it?

I think that’s an awful lot to infer from one sentence in an interview. He hasn’t been going around expounding on the ground he’s going to break, as far as I know. He’s been pretty quiet about his album, hasn’t he?

BeckyMD
Aug 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

Does it have to be one or the other? Can an artist introduce or promote his work without exaggerating the significance of it?

Sure. I think that hoping to have his own sound is not exaggerating anything.

KrisAllen4Real Just finished The Alchemist. Great read.41 minutes ago from TwitterFon

just when i thought i couldn’t like Kris more! The Alchemist is amazing! Kris is amazing! sigh

Jason Castro read The Alchemist while he was on tour last year and then he passed it on to Archie who also read it. Archie must have left the book on the bus and Kris found it. :mrgreen_wp:

Scott might make a living but he clearly thinks he should be a star. He’ll be very disappointed in about a year when his bubble is burst.

I think scott has the best chance out of the unsigned to be around a long time.Its hard to know what scott thinks a star is.He records his own music and has it out to buy,doesn’t take lots of sales to make a profit.Book deal means he could get to hit the talk shows and guess what talk about his music.If the book sells well so will his music and another book?I never was a fan of scott but i could see him being the kellie picker of season 8.If in 3 years he makes 2-3 million a year is that a STAR.Is that the STAR scott wants for him self.I don’t know but won’t count him out.

Squirrly, dk how old Cassidy is but he made it through initial auditions? dk the actual process but hey nice shout out in the article to Adam too.

Thinking back, I’m unsure what Adam did on the show that anyone really expects him to do now.

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s “Believe.” Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly “Cher effect.”), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

I also DON’T expect his album to be very rocky at all (is there anybody writing glam-rock or screech rock or Journey songs anymore?) and I have wondered for a while how the 50 and 60-something fans who proselytize all over the place about finding their new rock god, the new Elvis, the new Freddie Mercury, blahblahblah, are going to react to the album if it’s more the new Cher than the new Robert Plant.

KrisAllen4Real Just finished The Alchemist. Great read.41 minutes ago from TwitterFon

just when i thought i couldn’t like Kris more! The Alchemist is amazing! Kris is amazing! sigh

Jason Castro read The Alchemist while he was on tour last year and then he passed it on to Archie who also read it. Archie must have left the book on the bus and Kris found it.

Or maybe it’s just another thing that Kris and Archie are sharing, same shirts, same label, same books :lol_wp:

Sure. I think that hoping to have his own sound is not exaggerating anything.

I have no problem to equate ‘music that is hopefully different than maybe people have heard in a while or maybe ever‘ with ‘having one’s own sound‘ as long as people apply the same rule of interpretation on what other idols say of their music.

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’  Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly ‘Cher effect.’ ), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

Actually, no, he said they were given a list of songs to choose from. He felt that all of the good songs on the “boys” list were taken, so he picked a song off of the girl’s list.

as long as people apply the same rule of interpretation on what other idols say of their music.

Heh, well… again, Kris only said that once that I know of. If they say it often, they get criticized for it, ask David Cook r/e his “important” album statements that he said often last year. I don’t think one sentence in one interview is going to get much reaction. I think much of the reaction to Adam isn’t even to Adam himself, it’s the “best EVER!” buzz about him.

keep going back to that article about Cassidy and Adam good stuff and an Amazingly hot pic I might add…..

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’  Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly ‘Cher effect.’ ), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

Huh? He didn’t have “all the choices in the world”. There were 2 lists – the “boy” list and the “girl” list. He couldn’t find anything on the “boy” list that he felt would set him apart so he asked if he could pick from the “girl” list. I don’t see this selection as any different than picking from the approved song list during the show.

I would rather get a feel for what the album will be from what he is saying in interviews than trying to base it on a single song he picked from a limited list.

Since, so far, Adam has had me listening to songs I thought I “hated” (WLL, BTBW) and a genre that I thought I hated (electronic pop stuff like Pop goes the camera & Kiss & Tell) and I am actually loving the sound because it is Adam’s voice, I have high hopes that I will like whatever he puts out there as long as I can hear that voice. Nearly every description he has given has used some form of the phrase “featuring my vocals” so I am hopeful …

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’  Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly ‘Cher effect.’ ), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

Adam said in an interview later that he regretted picking Believe in that round. He actually didn’t have all the choices in the world and he purposefully tried to pick something no one else was doing. He also said the problem was that he picked a song that wasn’t really representative of him as an artist. He chose it just to stand out from the rest (i.e. to be memorable) and because it was something he could change up. So, I disagree that it was Adam’s most telling performance. Besides his version wasn’t even dance-y or electronica-y, Adam transformed Believe into a ballad.

I also don’t think his target consumers are solely clubbers, drag queens and people who like to dress in costumes. I think he striving for a broader base than that.

ETA: He wasn’t representing himself to “America” in this round either. It was a judges’ round and he didn’t know that the producers would choose to feature him in a clip that they would later air.

Archie must have left the book on the bus and Kris found it.

Or maybe it’s just another thing that Kris and Archie are sharing, same shirts, same label, same books :lol_wp:

Or, Archie left his entire suitcase.

Does it have to be one or the other? Can an artist introduce or promote his work without exaggerating the significance of it?

in one word….NO.

artists/actors/whoever always introduce their work as unique and hopefully one of a kind. who knows, maybe inside their mind, they actually believe their won hype. lets be honest, in order to get excitement from the public, you need to sell your work. and there is nothing wrong with that. an artist should be proud of his/her work and hope that he/she stands out from the crowd. its a basic human trait….the wish to be special.

every single idol says the same shyt…kris, adam, danny are no different.

I have wondered for a while how the 50 and 60-something fans who proselytize all over the place about finding their new rock god, the new Elvis, the new Freddie Mercury, blahblahblah, are going to react to the album if it’s more the new Cher than the new Robert Plant.

Well, I fit right smack in the middle of the age bracket you named and all I can tell you is that I listen to the same music Adam does: IAMX, Kasabian, Peaches, Muse, The Faint, Uh Huh Her, etc., and I have for much longer than I’ve even known about Adam. I can’t speak for any of his other older fans, but if these are his influences, I’ll be thrilled. I was also heartened to hear in one of his recent interviews that he doesn’t really like acoustic music. I don’t, either, so that’s another plus for me. I don’t expect his music to sound anything like Cher, and I don’t think you do, either.

I missed the episode of Adam singing Cher. It aired on my birthday:) I saw it on YouTube though

I think that people who are fans of Adam’s voice, will be happy with whatever is on his album. As a Kris fan, I can’t even imagine that he (Kris) would make an album that I would hate.

It is the people who were stone cold sure that Adam was bringing back 80′s rock to prominence, that will likely be disappointed. If they fall away, there are more than enough global fans of electronic dance music to take their place.

I think the people who expect Kris to do only ballads might be similarly disappointed.

These guys sang what they sang on a TV show, as part of a strategy to win that show. They can’t be held to that forever.

I can’t even express how much I love the cassidy Haley article. Thank u relyec

I also don’t think his target consumers are solely clubbers, drag queens and people who like to dress in costumes. I think he striving for a broader base than that.

Gee, I certainly hope so, appeal to a broader base, that is… I plan on buying Adam’s CD and I don’t fit any of those groups… Although I do like to dress in costume for Halloween… :wink_wp:

(self-edited to make sense)

ITA vada. That’s what I’ve been trying to say all day. Thank you.

MGiraudOfficialCan’t believe my grandma will get to see me sing to 10′s of thousands of people tonight. She used to cry when I played drums in church : D
about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon

oh no. does this mean Giraud is a Christian Singer too?

Im okay w. that reviewer not liking kanye or the killers….tells me everything i need to know about his musical tastes. he’s a nerd, boring and probably doesnt get laid.

123abc456
Here is an oped piece on Brain Cancer and Ted Kennedy and our own David Cook is mentioned: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Honoring-Ted-Kennedy-and-D-by-Phyllis-Huster-090826-124.html

Thanks for posting this article. I didn’t read the whole thing, but I really liked what the author had to say about Cook’s contribution to cancer research.

tierbee
I think much of the reaction to Adam isn’t even to Adam himself, it’s the ‘best EVER!’  buzz about him.

I agree.

I think that people who are fans of Adam’s voice, will be happy with whatever is on his album. As a Kris fan, I can’t even imagine that he (Kris) would make an album that I would hate.

It is the people who were stone cold sure that Adam was bringing back 80′s rock to prominence, that will likely be disappointed. If they fall away, there are more than enough global fans of electronic dance music to take their place.

I think the people who expect Kris to do only ballads might be similarly disappointed.

These guys sang what they sang on a TV show, as part of a strategy to win that show. They can’t be held to that forever.

Wise words.

I’m sure that both Adam and Kris will lose a few people who envisioned something completely different for their albums, but most people are fans of these guys’ voices and musical instincts, and don’t have a list of set-in-stone requirements for their first album. Plus, the genres and musical styles they talk about as being part of their albums are all popular right now, so as long as they do those styles well, they shouldn’t have much trouble picking up new fans (which anyone has to do to survive post-idol anyway).

The only way they could make an album I would hate is if they made an album that sounded like Nickelback–not anticipating that from either–or if they used autotune and overproduction to completely obliterate their voices–which I hope doesn’t happen and don’t really think will happen either. If I just get some good songs in whatever genre that really utilizes their voices and doesn’t have too much overproduction and sets them up to make second albums, I’ll be happy.

I’m sooooooooo excited 4 matt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope tonight’s a matt crowd!!!!! I think he’s more excited for his hometown show than any other idol except mauve kris.

OMA today’s an Adam press day!!!!!! I’m so excited!!!!! Eeekk!!! Is it press day for matt too?

I’m expecting something like the quaity of the davids albums. If this hapens ill be thrilled becuz this is more than what im expecting.

MGiraudOfficialCan’t believe my grandma will get to see me sing to 10′s of thousands of people tonight. She used to cry when I played drums in church : D
about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon

oh no. does this mean Giraud is a Christian Singer too?

:thumbup_tb: Best comment of the day

luvadamlambert: your welcome , Cassidy is hot and lot’s of props to Adam all rolled into one article ,yummy:)

I also don’t think his target consumers are solely clubbers, drag queens and people who like to dress in costumes. I think he striving for a broader base than that.

I’m not any of those things, so I think you may on to something ;p

I don’t think it matters if this is press day for Matt, he will get a lot of press. In Arkansas, Kris was the only one who got lots and lots of press – even after the show was over and gone.

I bet Danny is pretty excited about the Milwaukee show. He has lots of community and beyond support — even from the athletic teams.

Those are the last two for the home shows this week.

What are we going to do after the tour ends. Adam will be holed up recording like mad, so we probably won’t hear from him for at least a month. I’m not sure about the others (Kris and Allison will probably also finish up their albums). Altho, come to think of it, Kris said his single is coming out soon, so he will be all over the place promoting it.

luvadamlambert, I bet you can hardly wait for Adam’s single. We will get to see a lot of him when he is promoting it.

LOL youre right bestai I need a release date so I can start counting the days. I think at the most we might get news on more collaborators. The tour ends September 15th( I think) and I think the single will be out in October so it should be like 2 weeks to a month of no Adam:( that’s okay though because I need some time to adjust to a new school without thinking about Adam every 5 seconds. Then I’ll probably only think about him every ten seconds;p

luvadamlambert: you crack me up!

Wand3rful:

MGiraudOfficialCan’t believe my grandma will get to see me sing to 10′s of thousands of people tonight. She used to cry when I played drums in church : D
about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon

oh no. does this mean Giraud is a Christian Singer too?

Yep. In the press, he must henceforth be referred to as ‘the little drummer boy’.

Wand3rful, you are on a roll today.

What are we going to do after the tour ends. Adam will be holed up recording like mad, so we probably won’t hear from him for at least a month. I’m not sure about the others (Kris and Allison will probably also finish up their albums). Altho, come to think of it, Kris said his single is coming out soon, so he will be all over the place promoting it.

I too am very sad about the end of the tour, and potential end of news and updates every day, at least until before the album drops This summer has just been so much fun following everything! Adam had better twitter like mad when he’s recording And random tweets are best. Plus twitpics. And bubbletweets. Please?

@isisdagmar,

I’m sure that both Adam and Kris will lose a few people who envisioned something completely different for their albums, but most people are fans of these guys’ voices and musical instincts, and don’t have a list of set-in-stone requirements for their first album. Plus, the genres and musical styles they talk about as being part of their albums are all popular right now, so as long as they do those styles well, they shouldn’t have much trouble picking up new fans (which anyone has to do to survive post-idol anyway).

This totally!! I’ll be the first to admit, both have much broader musical knowledge than I do and both have impeccable instincts. Like a willing student, I’m eager and excited to find out where this journey takes me.

Music is an art that is ever-evolving and I think the vast majority of music lovers know and appreciate that. They may fall in love with the work first, then the artist. But after that, they want the artist to continue to take them to new places. We often want a certain consistency, which is why we gravitate towards genre. But I think there are many, many people ‘“ especially lovers of music ‘“  that can appreciate multiple styles. The same when an art lover can be as deeply affected by and appreciative of oils, watercolors and sculpture.

As Adam said, that consistency will be his vocals. With Kris I don’t doubt it will be his very intimate performance and unique inflection.

I’m sure that both Adam and Kris will lose a few people who envisioned something completely different for their albums, but most people are fans of these guys’ voices and musical instincts, and don’t have a list of set-in-stone requirements for their first album.

So true. Not to mention, they covered so many different genres and styles throughout the show, I would be hard-pressed to say “well THIS is what Adam should produce.” I for one loved MW as much as WLL, as much as Starlight, and BoW, and Feeling Good. Such a mixed bag, but all indelibly Adam in style. To me, Adam’s music isn’t so much about a specific genre as it is about a style of presentation and interpretation. Hard to describe, but there it is.

Just caught up with Matt’s tweets. Aww. I’m so happy for him He’s been doing so well on the tour too. I bet he’ll KILL it in Detroit Yea, Matt!

Adam is not a drag queen nor does he hang out with them.

Adam’s not a drag queen, but I’m sure that he has friends or acquaintances who are. In fact, in his interview with Slezak, he talked about getting his metal cage wing things for the Kiss performance because he was friends with the drag queen who runs the Bob Mackie showroom.

I agree that the Believe performance was not remotely representative of Adam’s style for a number of reasons (nor do I understand why Cher supposedly only appeals to people who go to clubs, are drag queens, or like costumes?), but theres nothing wrong with drag queens, it’s just another expression of sexuality.

To me, Adam’s music isn’t so much about a specific genre as it is about a style of presentation and interpretation. Hard to describe, but there it is.

I know exactly what you mean–Adam’s music, for me, is about his voice–the unusual tone of it, how beautiful it is, how expressive and emotional it is, how he can use it like an instrument, and his amazing and unique instincts for phrasing in a way that highlights and heightens the lyrics and the melodies. He has a gift for making whatever he sings “his” (a gift which I also think that Kris and Allison have, which again explains the success of these three–they put their individual stamp on whatever they sing). So, since I love an number of genres of music, as long as I get to hear his voice and those musical instincts, I’m good.

Mary102,

So true. Not to mention, they covered so many different genres and styles throughout the show, I would be hard-pressed to say ‘well THIS is what Adam should produce.’  I for one loved MW as much as WLL, as much as Starlight, and BoW, and Feeling Good. Such a mixed bag, but all indelibly Adam in style. To me, Adam’s music isn’t so much about a specific genre as it is about a style of presentation and interpretation. Hard to describe, but there it is.

You said it brilliantly. ITA! Yeah and if you told me in January I would be listening to a cover of “Play that Funky Music …” an average of once a day for months solid, I would have told you to take another hit off your crack pipe … but here we are. Go figure.

Just caught up with Matt’s tweets. Aww. I’m so happy for him He’s been doing so well on the tour too. I bet he’ll KILL it in Detroit Yea, Matt!

I am a little worried about him to be honest. Remember how performance anxiety hampered many of his performances on the show? Let’s just hope he doesn’t let the nerves about playing live to his friends and family get to him in the same way.

relyec
Aug 26th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
keep going back to that article about Cassidy and Adam good stuff and an Amazingly hot pic I might add’ ¦..

I can’t seem to find this article in the thread. Can you post the link again?

, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’  Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly ‘Cher effect.’ ), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

I know people have already dealt with the other stuff, but I have to speak up for electronica here, it’s not Cher. Not real or good electronica. And people like Cher or now BEP, or Britney use Auto tune in part because they have sucky voices. And Adam doeesn’t and has said that his voice will be the constant in the themes of his album. And synths and electronica =/= Auto Tune. Our erstwhile AI mentor Jamie Foxx and other hip-hop artists us Auto Tune and their stuff isn’t electronica, though their beats may be synthetic, but using electronics for some stuff, does not electronica make. Because again, Blame It On The Alcohol is not electronica, it’s not dance, but it uses Auto Tune. Lot of pop and rock music bands use synths as part of their sound, and again, not electronica, not dance and they may not be using Auto Tune.

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’ 

Yeah, I don’t personally know how that one song choice, out of all of his, could be considered most indicative of his future album sound. He specifically said he chose that one to stand out, that he knew he had to always stand out on Idol in order to actually make it further in the competition – and his main goal was of course to stay on as long as possible. To me, that choice represented a gutsy, daring, and controversial pick – which, again, is a lot of what Adam represented throughout the season. But then, you could just as easily put RoF, the reworked If I can’t have you, or WLL in that category as well.

Behind the Scenes of Kelly Already Gone video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN6_-e2xDFU

isisdagmar
I agree that Adam won’t sound the same in his album. But I’m really worried about Adam. He has completely changed from the show. I showed a couple of videos to my sister, who loved him on the show, she was shocked but not in a good way. To my shock she thought Scott was better!!! WTF?? I trully hope Adam holds his OTT way for his second album because some people may not get it.
As for Allison and Kris they seem more like a safe bet. They are likable, mainstream, pop/rock.
Still I wish good luck to all three of them and the unsigned ones too.

aa618892: Here ya go http://tinyurl.com/houston-cassidy

I trully hope Adam holds his OTT way for his second album because some people may not get it.

Well Adam has said that what he does in his live shows, will be different than his recordings. So I don’t expect that his recording will be as “OTT.”

Daughtry will apparently be a guest on Timbaland’s new album “Shock Value 2″ –

http://theneptunes.org/the-neptunes-on-timbalands-shock-value-2/

Timbaland ‘“ Shock Value 2 (2009)
Producers & Guests: Estelle, Danjahandz, Keri Hilson, The Jonas Brothers, Daughtry, Hollywood Undead, Jim Beanz, Amar, Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, Usher, Chris Brown, Missy Elliott, Drake, The Neptunes, Sebastian’ ¦

Thanks relyec- That was a great article.

I’m bored so I’m going to watch youtubescif every set in the show. c u guys later;)

I’m excited about Matt too. He surprised me at the DC concert. People loved him there and I believe he will get tons and tons of home boy love tonight.

I showed a couple of videos to my sister, who loved him on the show, she was shocked but not in a good way. To my shock she thought Scott was better!!! WTF?? I trully hope Adam holds his OTT way for his second album because some people may not get it.
As for Allison and Kris they seem more like a safe bet. They are likable, mainstream, pop/rock.

Yeah, that always happens. The hardcore of the hardcore will buy despite any change from show to album. But the more casual fans, who outnumber the hardcore by like 10X – lol, have their expectations along the lines of whatever it was they saw on AI. I think every year the idols lose some fans over it. But the more radical the shift, the more fans you lose.

Adam did all kinds of stuff, and that is a double edged sword IMO. One, it makes for people who bought in for wildly different reasons and are more who are likely to stray if they don’t hear what they expected to hear. Two, the judges kept calling him rock god and his most popular songs were ballads, so there’s that. There are likely a lot of people who are expecting one of the 2. Three, even among the hardcore there have been statements about not buying the record if its Gaga-ish (a real possibility) or if his voice is messed with too much (also a real possibility), or if the music is not original or too bland (almost a guarantee). That’s why I keep saying I think he has the tightest line to walk of all this year’s idols.

He still has tremendous potential though. Its really going to come down to how much he connects with the mainstream audience, which is true for everybody anyway. Lord knows they are planning to push the hell out of him. And I think he should have a really, really good christmas season if the album is even a little good. After that I don’t know what will happen.

Way up in this thread somewhere today, 123abc456 posted an article about Ted Kennedy’s death – “Here is an oped piece on Brain Cancer and Ted Kennedy and our own David Cook is mentioned: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Honoring-Ted-Kennedy-and-D-by-Phyllis-Huster-090826-124.html”
So I thought it might be okay to repost this information: You can still donate to David Cook’s team to raise money for brain cancer research for a cure. REMINDER: Race for Hope @thedavidcook Team ($133,336) donations accepted ’til Sep-30! http://bit.ly/18KE1b @curebraintumors

On another note – This is the Facebook page of the little girl who interviewed Cookie yesterday. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Claire-Elizabeth/112718440571
Apparently a Longer version of the interview will be posted.

I agree that Adam won’t sound the same in his album. But I’m really worried about Adam. He has completely changed from the show. I showed a couple of videos to my sister, who loved him on the show, she was shocked but not in a good way. To my shock she thought Scott was better!!! WTF?? I trully hope Adam holds his OTT way for his second album because some people may not get it.

Well, I think one important thing to note is that there is a big difference between performing live and producing an album. The style, the singing, the presentation, of course, are completely different. Even the youtube vids don’t really do it justice, because what Adam does on that stage is meant to reach people in a 10,000 plus capacity arena, so obviously it’s going to be a little OTT (and in my impression of watching him live, it works in a really good way). Singing on an album will NOT sound like that, because it’s a completely different medium. Adam himself has mentioned changing things up based on making the studio tracks vs performing on a stage.

I personally don’t think Adam’s changed at all since the show. His set on the tour is very similar to what we got to know from him on the show – and it completely fits the model of where I would expect him to go. Of course JMO.

oh no. does this mean Giraud is a Christian Singer too?

Actually, Matt’s previously released music…”Mind, Body, and Soul” was described like this in the liner notes:

This is real smooth/aggressive Urban/Pop/R&B from a Godly Perspective

Amazon UK has posted a Dec 7th release date overseas for Adam.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Adam-Lambert/dp/B002I62516/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251318067&sr=8-2

I’m excited about Matt too. He surprised me at the DC concert. People loved him there and I believe he will get tons and tons of home boy love tonight.

And awww his grandmother is there, so I really do hope he gets some love.

aa618892: Here ya go http://tinyurl.com/houston-cassidy

This seems like a really nice guy and all, but I hope he understands that the number of clicks generated as a direct result of Adam’s Tweet are not necessarily an indication that he does/will have an equivalent number of new fans. As we saw here the day of the Tweet, a lot of peeps looked, then left, and even those that bought the iTunes song may not stick around. But hey, ya gotta start somewhere, and most newbies languish in obscurity for years (like Adam himself!) w/o even that much… good luck to him, though. He’s OK, but he’s no Adam (but then, who is?????).

Cassidy does seem very nice. But I wonder if he had made it further, if his relationship to Idol with his Skingrafts jackets might have been an isssue. I can see the official AI boards already, “HEY THAT’S ADAM’S FRIEND, NO FAIR!”

MTV talks about Ted Kennedy and David Cook is included in the celebs that have tweeted about him, he has been mentioned is quite a few articles today:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619600/20090826/story.jhtml

And about Cassidy, I didn’t know that David Cook wore some of his stuff, also very cool!

Cassidy can be very pretty, love that picture of him with the wings, and some of his leather work is great. However as a musican? yeah, agree with the AI producers, eh. But still, wish him well in his endeavors.

Cassidy does seem very nice. But I wonder if he had made it further, if his relationship to Idol with his Skingrafts jackets might have been an isssue. I can see the official AI boards already, ‘HEY THAT’S ADAM’S FRIEND, NO FAIR!’ 

But he wouldn’t have been the only one. Anyone here how Danny’s friend Jamar or Castro’s brother are doing?

Amazon UK has posted a Dec 7th release date overseas for Adam.

http://www.amazon.co.uk…

What is it with the book about Adam that they recommend ?

The same author has books about Kris and David A.

Does anyone know more about it ? Are the books something official ?

Amazon UK has posted a Dec 7th release date overseas for Adam.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Adam-Lambert/dp/B002I62516/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251318067&sr=8-2

wow, that’s really cool. Hope America has an earlier release date.

sr4mjc: yeah I know right? I think he’s hot, but yeah no Adam,(in a good way) I like them both NO FAIR:)

Danny’s last tweet:

@mgiraudofficial ~ We in your hood Doc!!!! Show ‘em what its all about! Duuuuuu!! (dude voice) D
about 4 hours ago from web

Amazon UK has posted a Dec 7th release date overseas for Adam.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Adam-Lambert/dp/B002I62516/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251318067&sr=8-2

I think UK releases a day earlier for most artists – so that might mean that Adam’s album will come out on Dec 8 here in the US.

Another random, funny tweet from Kris. What exactly goes on in his head. I wish I knew…

KrisAllen4real:
Macchio or just macho? http://twitpic.com/fd1xc
about 2 hours ago from TwitterFon

Oh, and look at Jim cantiello’s @reply…hahaha

jambajim @KrisAllen4Real Remind me to tell u the story of when I rear-ended Ralph’s daughter on a mini-bus. Sounds filthy, but it was a car accident. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to KrisAllen4Real

Amazon UK has posted a Dec 7th release date overseas for Adam.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Adam-Lambert/dp/B002I62516/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1251318067&sr=8-2

wow, that’s really cool. Hope America has an earlier release date.

£11.99. Is that about the average price for a cd in the UK? I suspect the US cd will hit first. I have no background in the music biz…so I’m just guessing here. It’s exciting to see the promotions for the boys’ cds begin.

I think UK releases a day earlier for most artists – so that might mean that Adam’s album will come out on Dec 8 here in the US.

It can be later or earlier, for Archie his UK release was much later, IIRC. Adam has been saying November for quite the while and just recently, so no reason to believe it’s changed from then, and the label would be stupid not to try and get pre-Thanksgiving sales. And I don’t forsee them being that dumb. They may unpleasantly surprise me, they are 19 after all, but doubt it.

Or maybe I should have said, “He made Adam’s JACKET! No Fair!” he hee.

Dec 8th is entirely unacceptable. ! It must drop before Black Friday for shopping season in the US!

Anovuch on vftw they have stuff about them

If Adam’s album is dropping in the U.K. on Dec. 7, I would assume it will drop a couple of weeks earlier in the U.S. There’s no logical reason why they would release it overseas first.

http://tinyurl.com/houston-cassidy

Maybe this is the look they were going for in the Elle shoot with Kris. You know, angel wings and all.

to it’s december 8 I will lose my shit. I can’t wait that long. I still think it will be november though. in other news the concert starts in an hour. Yay!

Ok, I tried to search Kris Allen on the Amazon UK site and only Adam and David Cook’s cds came up. So I guess they haven’t started a pre-sale yet for Kris on the UK site. And by the same token, they haven’t started pre-sales yet for Adam on the US site.

I found this in my email today (from krisallenofficial.com)

Hi guys….we’re more than halfway through the tour and I can’t believe how fast it has flown by! I want to thank every one of you personally for coming out, supporting us, all the nice gifts (no more please!!!), and love you’ve shown me.

I can’t wait for the new album to come out this fall…it’s been a blast writing and recording and I can say it represents my music and style well. Hope you like it when it comes out. BTW, let me know if you got the iTunes Pass and what you thought of the music video from the tour. All for now guys. I’ll be blogging and vlogging (whatever that means) more soon…promise.

- Kris

ROFL – “vlogging — whatever that means”

And I think TPTB should collect a lot of the fan gifts these kids are getting and give them to some charity — because I doubt the Idols have the need or the space for much of what they’ve received. Especially things like the Build-a-Bears — they could give those to a hospital or children’s charity…

I think UK releases a day earlier for most artists – so that might mean that Adam’s album will come out on Dec 8 here in the US.

RCA will kill themselves to get the album out before Thanksgiving. I doubt his album will be released here in the US that late.

David Cook’s album was released on Amazon.co.uk on Nov 14th (link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/David-Cook/dp/B001GQRS4I ).
Cook’s US release was November 18th I believe.

If the same goes for Adam, then we can expect a US release for Adam’s album in the first 10 days of December.

Adam’s friend Alison Porter and Ferras are doing a show called The Creepshow on 9/5 in L.A. Also appearing will be Elliott Yamin and Brandon Rodgers (for S6 I think). Other peeps working on Adam’s album will also be performing. And I think it’s a Micheal Jackson tribute event.

If I get more info, I’ll provide a link. It actually sounds like a cool event.

I refuse to believe RCA is that stupid. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking!

tiger92: Oh my god, my god, my god! Kris in those wings……..hmmmm interesting!

Somebody tweeted Elle’s creative director again about the photo shoot. His reply:

mrjoezee:

Um, no. We’re a Fashion Magazine! RT @glassescafe In the photoshoot with Kradison, is Kris shirtless?
about 4 hours ago from web

Listening to the tracks of Matt’s pre idol album on iTunes, I see where the Justin Timberlake comparison comes from.

Reminder:

Once again, I ignored this thread today at my own peril.

Currently deleting posts that are rude, fan warring, bitching and complaining, “My Idol gets treated worse than your Idol Waa waa” etc.

Last year the Davids albums were also available for pre-order in the Amazon UK store. The release date was the same (or a few days before/after) as in the US, but eventually the albums were only released 2/3 weeks after the date they had from the beginning.
But, that is not a UK release date, just Amazon UK selling the albums. Like someone said, Archie’s album was released in the UK months after, but you could buy it on Amazon UK since December.

I think UK releases a day earlier for most artists – so that might mean that Adam’s album will come out on Dec 8 here in the US.

RCA will kill themselves to get the album out before Thanksgiving. I doubt his album will be released here in the US that late.

Word. RCA will send out a record in November because no way are they going to agonize over “quality,” over timeliness in releasing product. No way. I just wonder if it’s going to be Nov. 17th as well. That would be…unfortunate. But maybe a day or two later, at the most, because they will be looking for that pre-Thanksgiving release. And Adam has talked a November date and having to finish in a few weeks after the tour ends, like Kris has and his album drops Nov 17th. Busy day in terms of releases.

Kris and Adam WILL NOT release the same day….I would guess that Adam will release on the 24th, which will put him before Thanksgiving but after Kris. Albums only come out on Tuesday, don’t they?

girlygirl: I know the pic isn’t going to be like that. It’s just a fun fantasy thought. What if…

If the same goes for Adam, then we can expect a US release for Adam’s album in the first 10 days of December.

If RCA does that, its stupidity has no boundary.

smartcookie Aug 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

Thinking back, I’m unsure what Adam did on the show that anyone really expects him to do now.

To me, the most telling performance Adam gave (in terms of what his cd might sound like) was the Hollywood one. Remember, he did Cher? Since that was something he chose, out of all the choices in the world, to represent himself to the judges (and America) right out of the gate,

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his album sounded something like Cher’s ‘Believe.’  Very dancy, very electronica (code word for way too much auto-tune to give it that other-worldly ‘Cher effect.’ ), lots of appeal to clubs, drag queens and people who like costumes.

How does one come to that conclusion when as stated before he had to chose a song from a list then sang it as a ballad???

Kris and Adam WILL NOT release the same day’ ¦.I would guess that Adam will release on the 24th, which will put him before Thanksgiving but after Kris. Albums only come out on Tuesday, don’t they?

Well I would think not, because that would be just horrible and stupid. I’ve read that albums come out on Tuesdays, so I guess it could be the 24th, but blah, that’s only 2 days until Thanksgiving. But yeah, that would the latest I could see his album being released. No way will it be December.

I don’t know where the info came from but I read at another board that Kris’ has been moved to Nov 24 so if that’s true then that will open up the Nov 17 slot for Adam.

If RCA does that, its stupidity has no boundary.

Don’t you mean…There Are No Boundaries! Second, hours, so many days…

I don’t know where the info came from but I read at another board that Kris’ has been moved to Nov 24 so if that’s true then that will open up the Nov 17 slot for Adam.

Yeah, haven’t heard anything about that, and random board postings don’t count for me. No offense. If you have a link, love to see it. But I don’t believe that will happen either, and thank goodness. I have no desire to see the meltdown if it did occur.

Well I would think not, because that would be just horrible and stupid. I’ve read that albums come out on Tuesdays, so I guess it could be the 24th, but blah, that’s only 2 days until Thanksgiving. But yeah, that would the latest I could see his album being released. No way will it be December.

As long as both of their albums are stocked in stores before November 27th, which is the day after Thanksgiving- the busiest shopping day of the year, they should be good.

I’ve been know to peruse the stores myself on Black Friday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)

I don’t know where the info came from but I read at another board that Kris’ has been moved to Nov 24 so if that’s true then that will open up the Nov 17 slot for Adam.

Where did you hear this? If it’s just one board I wouldn’t give it any legitimacy. And I could see Kris and Adam releasing on the same day if need be – especially if there are issues and they want both out by Thanksgiving they could both release that Tuesday (the 24th). There’s nothing that says it has to be different days for them and Allison is releasing at some point in there too.

I don’t know where the info came from but I read at another board that Kris’ has been moved to Nov 24 so if that’s true then that will open up the Nov 17 slot for Adam.

Adam’s album will not drop before Kris’ – will.not.happen.

Yeah, there is no rational logic whatsoever for releasing in December and deep-sixing all those Black Friday sales. That’s a no-brainer.

Not to mention, with Thanksgiving weekend being in the middle of the week and a half in question, they wouldn’t get any work done on it during that week anyway.

November sweeps run Oct. 29 to Nov. 25 this year (Thanksgiving is the 26th). This means all first-run shows, which they will use for their media blitz. My prediction: They will release two weeks apart. It’s up to RCA and Jive to decide who goes first. My hunch: They stagger them by two weeks, so it will either be the 3rd and the 17th or the 10th and the 24th.

Interview with David Cook on KOMO right now:

http://www.komonews.com/aboutradio

Adam’s album will not drop before Kris’ – will.not.happen.

Why not? It wouldn’t be the first time the winner released after the runner-up or any other lower placed finisher. It happened last year as well as seasons 2 & 5.

ETA: ROTFL that tweet sounds like something Kris would say.

No, I don’t have a link. Like what I said I just saw it posted at another board (Pulse). I believe the post was something like “Kris’ album was moved to Nov 24″.

Latest tweets from David Cook:

We are en route to Casper, WY. Casper, you better be one friendly ghost. ~D
3 minutes ago from web

Latest tweets from David Cook:

We are en route to Casper, WY. Casper, you better be one friendly ghost. ~D

Haha, I love David Cook’s tweets.

“Archie must have left the book on the bus and Kris found it.

Or maybe it’s just another thing that Kris and Archie are sharing, same shirts, same label, same books

Or, Archie left his entire suitcase. ”
– more like this last one.

RLOL–
:jittery_tb:

When did Archie and Cook’s albums drop? Didn’t Archie’s drop first?

Archie’s dropped 11/11 and Cook’s followed 11/18 last year. Gah, the dates are still burned in my brain! :help_tb:

Latest tweets from David Cook:

We are en route to Casper, WY. Casper, you better be one friendly ghost. ~D

Haha, I love David Cook’s tweets.

I really like David’s Tweets except for ~D I know. David, but I can’t unsee and unknow where people said it was like a sperm and…

Now it’s all funny everytime I see it. Bad interwebz. Bad!

Kris is on the cover of Arkansas magazine “Front Porch”

http://www.arfb.com/news_information/front-porch/2009pdf/fpsept09.pdf

actual article on Kris starts on page 6

Archie’s dropped 11/11 and Cook’s followed 11/18 last year. Gah, the dates are still burned in my brain!

Didn’t follow AI last year. Who’s album did better? I was thinking it was Cook. Am I right?

Archie had better first week sales I think. ETA: But as of now Cook’s album has sold more.

I have wondered for a while how the 50 and 60-something fans who proselytize all over the place about finding their new rock god, the new Elvis, the new Freddie Mercury, blahblahblah, are going to react to the album if it’s more the new Cher than the new Robert Plant.

LucyN: Well, I fit right smack in the middle of the age bracket you named and all I can tell you is that I listen to the same music Adam does: IAMX, Kasabian, Peaches, Muse, The Faint, Uh Huh Her, etc., and I have for much longer than I’ve even known about Adam. I can’t speak for any of his other older fans, but if these are his influences, I’ll be thrilled. I was also heartened to hear in one of his recent interviews that he doesn’t really like acoustic music. I don’t, either, so that’s another plus for me. I don’t expect his music to sound anything like Cher, and I don’t think you do, either.

I’m in my 50′s and I don’t expect or want Adam to produce an album filled with classic rock retreads or 80′s dance music ala Cher. What I want is an album that is full of vocal energy, great beats and that makes me feel something when I listen to it.

My playlist is similar to LucyN’s. Just add is Goldfrapp, Sam Sparro, Elvis Costello and Euro/new prog, contemporary urban music and some indie music — and you got me. I loved Queen, Led Zepp, Bowie, the Doors, Stones, Pink Floyd, punk rock, new wave and even disco, when they were current but I have been there and done that. I’m old, but I’m not dead yet.

What I don’t listen to is any of the watered-down corporate crap that the major labels package for women — post-”grunge” like Nickleback to easy listening “alternative” music to post-punk/punk pop. And how did music go from Punk (Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Ramones, Patti Smith) to Post-Punk (Arctic Monkeys, The Killers)?

Archie’s dropped 11/11 and Cook’s followed 11/18 last year. Gah, the dates are still burned in my brain!

Tell me about it. I was worried to death when Cook’s album dropped. And then I was so happy when his first week’s sale numbers released. I was litterally jumping up and down(I am a middle aged woman). What a ride of rollercoaster.

Didn’t follow AI last year. Who’s album did better? I was thinking it was Cook. Am I right?

Cook’s album did really well, outsold Archie’s.
Archie’s single outsold Cook’s, by a lot!

Really looking forward to buying Adam’s CD and probably Allison’s. I will give Kris’s CD a listen, but not sure I will buy his entire CD, most likely a few singles. Unless of course, Kris surprises me and the tracks on his CD don’t all sound the same (to one another)

Heads up — NO Kradison as a group in the Elle photo shoot…just the three in individual photos

http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/1988673.html

I am a fan of both Davids. So here are their US album sales numbers:

1st week album sales:
279,578 ‘“ David Cook, 11/18
182,927′“ David Archuleta, 11/11

Albums sold to date
1.226 million – David Cook – his album just sold 4,000 units last week and is still in the Bill Board 100.

720,000 – David Archuleta — Archie’s album is now longer on the sales charts. Brian Mansfield hasn’t reported any recent sales.

Cook still has 3 singles that continue to sell, and will probably have another single dropping shortly. Archie’s Crush was a monster hit – but he hasn’t had as much sales/radio successs with his other singles. But I’d say they are both doing great. Archie’s recording a Christmas album and also getting ready for his second major label album. I am sure that his second one will do even better. Th

Heads up ‘” NO Kradison as a group in the Elle photo shoot’ ¦just the three in individual photos

http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/1988673.html

girlygirl, you’re such a tease! It says I have to log in to view the site???

I think the ~D has become a habit for him because he’s always signed off his blogs and such like that and now on Twitter I think he started doing that so fans would know it was him and not some RCA/19 intern or whoever. Listening to his interviews today I think he still feels a little obligated to tweet because he got pressured into it. I’m enjoying them so much I almost feel guilty, but at the same time I try to cut him some slack. He seems to be doing a good job but its got to be a little overwhelming so I’m ok with however he feels comfortable..

DC’s album sold more the first week and overall than Archie’s but Crush did better than Light On.

Tell me about it. I was worried to death when Cook’s album dropped. And then I was so happy when his first week’s sale numbers released.

OMG I remember so clearly when the HDD predictions came out I actually shrieked. Leading up to that week all I kept saying was I really, really wanted him to just crack 200k the first week, so yeah I was insanely excited. Good times!

Has anyone seen anything OFFICIAL about Danny getting his record deal? I’ve seen more comments about him signing one today, but I haven’t seen anything more than the last time Danny talked about it in an interview — no press release or anything

David Cook’s album sales are very good in a very bad year for album sales. He has two songs that are/will be platinum (LO is not official but it is close and will get there) and three songs that have been hits on HAC radio. So he has done quite well for himself. I remember the doom and gloom predictions and they were all wrong. Not to mention his successful headlining tour. I am going to get the popcorn out this year cause I do not have a dog in this fight but it will be interesting to watch. But I know that predictions mean diddly squat.

wrong thread

wrong thread

“Charice who?”

Ya, Charice who, but you can’t ignore her when Oprah is behind her. Oprah personally contacted David Foster and now she is under his wing. I have seen her several times on Oprah and she is a very sweet girl. She said she helped her mom buy a house with the money she earned from various appearances. When she met Celine Dion (her idol) for the first time, she was so overwhelmed in tears. David Foster accompanies her on his David Foster and Friends concerts along with various artists.

David A fans hope she and David will appear on the Oprah show to sing a duet which has been already recorded for his Christmas album. Both of them are belters singing their hearts out and young performers. If it actually happens, that will be great. If it doesn’t, there will be always tomorrow.

Here is a video that Snarky Archies found recently that was taped in Malaysia. Probably many of you have never seen him in another countries. Asian countries love American idols. The scenes with birds on his hands crack me up. Too cute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTAbGZI1XnU

I remember I was so sad when Archie’s album didn’t sell as many as Cook’s, but then I remembered – oh yeah, Cook was more popular and won Idol, after all! Archie still did well. They both seem to be doing well post-Idol, proportionately.

I will feel kinda bad for Kris if Adam outsells him though, even though I’m not super invested this time like I was for S7.

alex_band #Working on kris Allen song ideas more and day dreaming of playing blackjack in Vegas.#

This is the 2nd time Alex Band has tweeted about writing with/for Kris…

Speaking of David vs. David..

thedavidcook Layover in @DavidArchie territory. Is it safe to come out yet? ~D

:laugh_tb:

Alex Band is sexy – that is all.

I think UK releases a day earlier for most artists – so that might mean that Adam’s album will come out on Dec 8 here in the US.

RCA will almost certainly release Adam’s album in the US and Canada first. And, I agree with MJ, everyone involved with the album will do what is needed to get it released before Thanksgiving.

girlygirl
Aug 26th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
alex_band #Working on kris Allen song ideas more and day dreaming of playing blackjack in Vegas.#

This is the 2nd time Alex Band has tweeted about writing with/for Kris’ ¦

250 Squirrely
Aug 26th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Alex Band is sexy – that is all.

I really hope they come up with a great song. Wherever You May Go still gets a ton of spins everyday, and it’s several years old.

Speaking of David vs. David..

thedavidcook Layover in @DavidArchie territory. Is it safe to come out yet? ~D

I have to say it again, I love David Cook’s tweets. He is so fun and witty. His band members are not at his level at all in any aspects.

Every year, I have bought the winner’s album. That’s what most of the public would do, buying the winner’s CD. Especially, last year, it was a rock genre, and rock albums sell better than pop. But David A’s big hit song really helps him put his name out and he made enough money to make the second (Christmas album) and the third album (pop). Every concert he performed in, Crush was an ultimate hit song that everyone sang along. He will be remembered as the CRUSH singer forever, LOL.

I read something on Idol forum about Jive’s strategies. An example was an unknown debut artist whose name I forgot who sold 250,000 albums, but had a smash hit song sold about double platinum. That money was good enough for him to produce his second album. Jive doesn’t spend much money for promos, so doesn’t throw away much money either.

BTW, out of all the winner’s albums, my favorite is Kelly’s. Carrie’s is not bad either, but I am not into country. Other than that, meh. JMO.

Kris belongs to Jive and it will be interesting to watch how they are going to handle his music sales along with promos.

@Carly Smithson: @nealfingtiemann Dude I brought Mr. Sixx for a walk and he loved it . Dragged poor super along . Not sure walking is her thing !!!

Mr. Sixx is Neal’s (David Cook’s lead guitarist and bff) Great Dane. Aww, that’s so nice of Carly! Wow, I guess Dave and Carly are still really tight then. Don’t know who Super is though.

Kellie Pickler tweets:

Bravo Brit!! Show was SMOKIN!!

@perezhilton at britneys show at MSG. U diva queen!! I loved ur intro!!! AMAZING!!!

David Cook is adorable in this interview (video) with the rapid fire questions

http://www.king5.com/video/eveningmagazine-index.html?nvid=392417

Another review of the Columbus show. Mad props for both Adam and Kris…

http://media.herald-dispatch.com/blog/idol/2009/08/my-complete-recap-of-idols-live-in.html

girlygirl
Aug 26th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
alex_band #Working on kris Allen song ideas more and day dreaming of playing blackjack in Vegas.#

Once again, thanks for the tweet girlygirl! Maybe the song can talk about playing blackjack in Vegas!!! Focus Alex, please make it a good one!!!

“Mr. Sixx is Neal’s (David Cook’s lead guitarist and bff) Great Dane”

Ohhhh. What color Dane? I have a “lethal white” Dane here at my feet, and have a fawn warming up the bed for me.

OK, now I’ve got to pay more attention to David Cook’s lead guitarist. Great taste in dogs. LOL.

“Adam’s album will not drop before Kris’ – will.not.happen.”

Why not?
I’d love to have an official release date, (even if just for the single), but I guess I just have to be patient….

yinyang, Mr. Sixx is a harlequin, I think.

…I don’t know how I learned that, but details about dogs stick in my head.

Ah. After googling, I figure it must be because I’m remembering this picture.

: )

yinyang
Neal’s Dog Mr Sixx

Ohhhh. What color Dane? I have a ‘lethal white’  Dane here at my feet, and have a fawn warming up the bed for me.

OK, now I’ve got to pay more attention to David Cook’s lead guitarist. Great taste in dogs. LOL.

Mr. Sixx is a Harlequin Great Dane. David Cook had talked about getting a Great Dane too right after he won Idol, but I think he got talked out of it because it just wouldn’t be very practical on a tour bus (and thus, the Scottie instead). I kinda feel bad for Mr. Sixx actually. While Dublin has been able to go on tour with the band, Mr. Sixx has had to stay home.

ETA: Mr. Sixx’s Myspace — http://profile.myspace.com/hlmcradnasty

I’m amused that the song playing on Mr. Sixx’s myspace is Archie’s “Touch My Hand”

http://www.newyorkvinnie.com/aircheckdemo/marinersradiodemos.html

Seattle interview with New York Vinnie at the Mariners Stadium.

thanks 123 for the Cookie at Mariners Stadium interview. with bonus “Take me out to the ballgame” song.

OK – for those who enjoyed the little kid’s interview with David Cook, she’s added an bit of an interview with the now-famous stage chicken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1o6Sw0R9K8&eurl=http://www.facebook.com/pages/Claire-Elizabeth/112718440571&feature=player_embedded#t=382

Last part of KOMO interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJwDPqxLDnM

Here is the first part audio only: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNqcwfM8f3c&feature=related

Mj: I am too. I enjoy things much better without them.

Do you have a record deal?
I can’t really discuss the details of it, but there is an album in the works.

Michael has a deal? It sure sounds like it.

Do albums really only come out on Tuesdays? I guess they’re all trying to maximize first week sales numbers… I just really, really hope Adam and Kris don’t release their albums on the same day, because that just sets it up for a fan competition on the opening sales. Ideally for me, Allison’s album comes out first, then Kris’, then Adam’s. In the order of ascending apprehension I have about their music.

By the way, Adam has made it very clear that his album is coming out in November. There’s no way it would be released in December. That makes no sense from any point of view.

I know that last year, DC’s came out before DA’s. How has it happened in the past?

ETA: Oops, I mean DC’s was after DA’s.

http://www.newyorkvinnie.com/aircheckdemo/marinersradiodemos.html Seattle interview with New York Vinnie at the Mariners Stadium.

Heh, cute interview. I liked the Take Me Out to the Ballgame duet

1st week album sales:
279,578 ‘“ David Cook, 11/18
182,927′“ David Archuleta, 11/11

Yes, Cook’s album did much better than Archie’s the first week (and overall). However, let’s not forget that Archie’s album has the distinction of debuting (and peaking) at #2 on the Billboard 200. Rightly or wrongly, that bragging right seems to be tacked on to every other article written about him. Cook’s album, on the other hand, debuted at #3, even though it did much better than Archie’s. It was just the luck of the draw. Cook had much stiffer competition during his debut week, namely Beyonce (482,000) and Nickelback (326,000).

I would dread it if Kris and Adam are releasing on the same day, because then that would be a direct comparison. There can be no excuses about how my guy didn’t do as well as your guy because of the other artists releasing on that same day or that releasing on that particular week is more conducive to sales as compared to the week before (or after), because of it’s relative proximity to Black Friday, blah blah blah.

I’m so glad I don’t have a horse in this race this year. It’s just so stressful!! Whew! I’m getting shaky just thinking about it. (tm Archie)

@thedavidcook:
A long day of traveling. Airport logic: I can travel with my beard trimmer, but not an extra ounce of shampoo.?
Anyway, looking forward to the show tomorrow. See you @casperevents ~D about 6 hours ago from web

ozarka
Aug 27th, 2009 at 5:23 am
1st week album sales:
279,578 ‘“ David Cook, 11/18
182,927′“ David Archuleta, 11/11

Yes, Cook’s album did much better than Archie’s the first week (and overall). However, let’s not forget that Archie’s album has the distinction of debuting (and peaking) at #2 on the Billboard 200. Rightly or wrongly, that bragging right seems to be tacked on to every other article written about him. Cook’s album, on the other hand, debuted at #3, even though it did much better than Archie’s. It was just the luck of the draw. Cook had much stiffer competition during his debut week, namely Beyonce (482,000) and Nickelback (326,000).

I think this is why Adam’s release date hasn’t been announced yet. I really think the label wants to guarantee him a #1 opening week, so they will wait for the competition to shake out.

Kris has some really tough competition, including Simon Cowell’s darling Leona Lewis, so a #1 seems unlikely for him.