Idol Headlines for 07/19/09

pics from David A’s thing for Rising Star Outreach program.

http://pixelsilver.smugmug.com/gallery/8936820_nHLgt#593442754_kanAR
http://www.risingstaroutreach.org/archuleta
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New tour stop(solo) for David A as well. To replace one of the canceled Demi dates.

Time: August 17, 2009 from 8pm to 10pm
Location: The Intersection http://www.sectionlive.com/
City/Town: Grand Rapids, MI

Ahhh!!! :jittery_tb: I am so excited for Matt!! This tour in Janurary sounds AWESOME (I’ll be there). So glad that he is making plans for after tour with YOBI and now this tour date in Jan. HOPEFULLY he will be signed before the tour is over and get working on his album soon :thumbup_tb:

Looking forward to more from him, LOVE ya Matt.

LOL…Kradam…<3

Too cute, I of course wouldn’t know if it is true or not, but this excerpt from the comment section of the Showbizspy article should have the Kradam fanfic crowd jumping for joy!

“Also, one more thing. There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable. Kris is really comfortable in his own skin, isn’t he? How lovely. Or perhaps he was a little tipsy. Either way, it warmed my cold heart. Yes, it was THAT precious.

Comment by Solange ‘” 19 Jul”

That is an amazing stat about Carrie. I don’t know if she gets enough praise from the idol fandom, probably because she’s doing country music, but she’s a superstar. Simon says a lot of stupid things, but he was right when he said that she would probably be more successful than anyone else who had ever been on the show.

The Examiner: Paula Abdul is more entertaining than American Idol

http://www.examiner.com/x-2232-Fresno-TVMovieDVD-Examiner~y2009m7d19-Paula-Abdul-is-more-entertaining-than-American-Idol

That is an amazing stat about Carrie. I don’t know if she gets enough praise from the idol fandom, probably because she’s doing country music, but she’s a superstar. Simon says a lot of stupid things, but he was right when he said that she would probably be more successful than anyone else who had ever been on the show.

Simon said the same thing about Adam. :tongue1_tb: Hope he’s right again :wub_tb:

‘Also, one more thing. There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable. Kris is really comfortable in his own skin, isn’t he? How lovely. Or perhaps he was a little tipsy. Either way, it warmed my cold heart. Yes, it was THAT precious.

Comment by Solange ‘” 19 Jul’ 

FANDOM will go wild on this.

I hope Idol gets to workout the Paula’s contract. I don’t think AI will be AI without Paula.

Vanessa, wccagirl2009, there is another story from the comment section of the Showbizspy article that is fandom food. A reply from Kris (giggling) that his man (Adam) was waiting for him. Enjoyable!

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Saw the Idols in LA ‘“ spotted a number of celebs at the show too. The stadium stood up after Adam Lambert’s set. Felt a little bad for Kris but Adam blew. me. away. The guys the real deal. Just needs solid universal material on par with his talent.

The after party was good. Told Kris Allen he was fabulous, he beamed and said, ‘YOU’RE fabulous!!’  He was very funny and cute. Just a really nice, genuine, fun guy with a dry sense of humour which I appreciate.

Adam was with his (hot, flamboyant) friends initially but later had everyone around him. He made everyone laugh. The guy knows how to work a crowd, very natural, warm, personable, sociable, witty, funny. You find yourself going to him. One minute he is ‘omg’  flaily-adorable and extremely huggable, the next he’s overwhelmingly sexy, smooth and tall and his eyes pierce you LOL. So you have snarky me who hates the Idol machine thinking ‘Erm Jesus Christ this man is HOT & I kind of want to do him’  as he was talking to us. His speaking voice and laugh alone did it for me, ha ha. But his features are also just really nice. He has a -perfect- nose, girl, seriously. And his eyes and smile are lovely. His hair looks thick yet feathery soft, totally silky & shiny up close. Very jealous. Anyway, completely charming guy.

Great night. Also, one more thing. There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable. Kris is really comfortable in his own skin, isn’t he? How lovely. Or perhaps he was a little tipsy. Either way, it warmed my cold heart. Yes, it was THAT precious.

Comment by Solange ‘” 19 Jul

from ShowbizSpy.com

Mtflan, read that second story also. They really play on each other – but I truly think that they genuiniely luurve each other and are such close friends. I don’t elieve they do it for show or to feed the Kradam frenzy. The first pcture, in the blue by himself – you can see the amazing resemblance to his mom and his eyes, unbelievely beautiful.

TPTB are really lenient this year, from past talk they didn’t allow the contestants to do much of anything until they fulfilled their AI run.

Congrats to Matt for getting things rolling for his future.

I hope Lil and Megan are thinking ahead, it seems all the boys are.

Love that Showbiz Spy piece, particularly the recaps in the comments section. In general, comments section was comparatively profound once you get past the usual farwarring kooks. That Solange comment rang very authentic to me. Kradam, continues to redefine awesome.

smokeyvera, yeah they really like each other. I was surprised to see them sitting together in the theater during Hollywood week; seems they hit it off very early.
Adam has unbelievable beautiful eyes. Really struck me in matt’s last bubble.. even upside down, they look gorgeous

From the Showbiz Spy story:

Idol winner Allen is also gearing up to release an album. ‘As exciting as the last few months have been, I’m really looking forward to what is next,’  he recently said. ‘I’m very grateful to be working with Simon Fuller and his team at 19 Entertainment, along with Barry Weiss and Jive Records on my debut album.’ 

Does this mean that Kris is being personally managed by Simon Fuller, not just someone from 19? Have we heard who’s managing Adam, Kris, or Allison yet?

Does this mean that Kris is being personally managed by Simon Fuller, not just someone from 19? Have we heard who’s managing Adam, Kris, or Allison yet?

i wonder too how this is working.
Seems to me that they have some latitude in choosing their producers/collaborators (seem Kris sent an email to Fray’s Joe King). I guess they are also being reached by some (think RedOne was the one who reaches for Adam).

Does this mean that Kris is being personally managed by Simon Fuller, not just someone from 19? Have we heard who’s managing Adam, Kris, or Allison yet?

I’m not sure but that’s an old quote from Kris, lifted from the press release about his signing with Jive records.

That Solange comment rang very authentic to me. Kradam, continues to redefine awesome.

As sweet as it was, it read a little like fanfic to me. /cynic

Susan M aka alsosuse … wanted to tell you that some of your twits yesterday were very funny

New tour stop(solo) for David A as well. To replace one of the canceled Demi dates.

Time: August 17, 2009 from 8pm to 10pm
Location: The Intersection http ://www.sectionlive.com/
City/Town: Grand Rapids, MI

Way to go to Archie’s peeps for coming through for him as promised! Tickets are not yet available for sale but the tour date has been added to his official website’s event roster, so it’s official. He will be headlining this show, which makes it even sweeter.

As sweet as it was, it read a little like fanfic to me. /cynic

It was more the observational tone and detail did sound like someone relating a scene that had been there. I definitely thought details were likely exaggerated. I don’t know, I don’t read fanfic, so maybe I’m not clued into its tone.

@Mtlfan, thanks! I was going in journalist mode at first, but then thought, “What the hell, I’m not being paid for this, I can editorialize if I want to.” Tried to dial back on the snarkiness, but it did leak out at times.

That was my first real-time tweet report and it was a lot of fun. I read back over the thread last night ‘“ with everyone else’s reporting and the posters posting. It was hilarious. I’m glad I could be part of it. Debating if I should write a recap. I probably should. But I’ve been so all about AI this weekend that I NEED to get out.

Oh my at the comments @Showbizspy.comm the folks @ontd_ai will go off their heads at the stories. Especially this comment:

My mom said to us, ‘If I didn’t know any better, I’d think Kris enjoys teasing Adam to the point where he wants to look sexy for him’  rofl, I love my mom.

ROFLMAO. That even got me a little hot under the collar.

i wonder too how this is working.
Seems to me that they have some latitude in choosing their producers/collaborators (seem Kris sent an email to Fray’s Joe King). I guess they are also being reached by some (think RedOne was the one who reaches for Adam).

Kris worked with Joe King in the studio about 4 weeks ago. From VH1.com 6/22/09:

But Allen has already spent time with writer and producer Joe King, the guitarist and songwriter from the Fray. Allen performed King’s version of Kanye West’s “Heartless” on the show, and the pair recently spent two days in Timbaland’s studio in Virginia Beach, where they demoed a song. “I’m literally in the studio mixing the rough demo right now,” King said via telephone from Toronto (the Fray just began the first leg of their North American tour). “It doesn’t have a title yet. It doesn’t even have lyrics ‘” but there is a lot of gibberish.”

Kris and Adam seem to be taking very different approaches to working on their albums.

Adam is talking a lot about who he is working with, apparently had a list of producers and songwriters who he wanted to work put together before he signed the contact — and said he is working with all of them. He is working with more than one producer.

Kris hasn’t really said a lot about what is going on with his record. I think the Joe King recording session is the only one that has been in the press. But he did say that he planned to work with one producer.

7/5/09: Kris Allen hasn’t settled on a producer for his album, but he’s narrowing the choices. “It’s down to a couple,” he says. “Either one of them, they’re amazing.”

One thing he does know: He’d like to break Idol tradition and work with one producer for the entire project. “That’s what we’re shooting for,” he says, “just to get a continuity throughout the album.

“I know it’s tough to do with the Idol albums. It’s so hectic that it’s hard to get one producer for the whole album, but that would be my preference. The albums that I listen to and really appreciate, they all have that one-producer thing. Every song sounds different, but they still have that something about them that sounds the same.”

He’d like to break Idol tradition and work with one producer for the entire project

David Cook worked with just one producer, Rob Cavallo.

Just came back from taking my daughter shopping in NYC and I almost spazzed. The Skechers store in Times Square has a HUGE digital billboard of DC on the side of the store building. It’s one of those digital rotating billboards that has maybe 3 different Skechers ads and it features that shot of him in the record store with the blonde looking at him and the screen pans up from his shoes all the way to his face and they close up on his face and his name flashes across the screen. Very cool and I’m almost giddy :laugh_tb:

Question for the fans from the Philippines. This article has this quote

The rockers were also well-represented. When You Look Me In The Eyes by Jonas Brothers; That’s What You Get by Paramore; Beat It by Fall Out Boy; Viva La Vida by Coldplay; The Time Of My Life by David Cook who had the most single releases out in the market at the same time than any AI winner. And we listened to them all, Dream Big, I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For, I Don’t Want To Miss A Thing, The World That I Know and Always Be My Baby.

Were all those really released as singles there??

David Cook worked with just one producer, Rob Cavallo.

So did Daughtry (Howard Benson). I don’t knows what he means about breaking Idol tradition.

As sweet as it was, it read a little like fanfic to me. /cynic

I would’ve just said “fic” without the fan. Here’s my fiction writer’s take on how easy it is:

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At one point, I saw Megan and Adam standing very, very close to each other, kind of in the back, not near the table where the others had pretty much congregated, and I wondered what was up with that because, well, DUH, Adam is gayer than a lavender picnic basket on Fire Island!

But, wow, they really looked into each other. He kind of tangled his fingers around hers, and tried to nestle her closer, and she was looking away while he was staring at her really sweetly and intently, as if he were concerned about her. She tried to pull away, but he held his grip so she had to stay there, right next to him. And then she was lookiing down, really sad, and he dropped the tiniest little kiss on the top of her head and closed his eyes and pulled her right up against him, and I was like THUD, don’t they know we can see them?? It was so intimate and wow, those are too beautiful people. They looked so gorgeous silhouetted against this bright blue door (or maybe it was a curtain — I don’t know, but there was something blue behind them and it looked awesome with Adam’s eyes, which are this electric blue.)

But right after that, somebody else — Anoop, I think — called her from more over where I was, the other side of the room, and she did disentangle herself and put on a happy face and join the party.

If I didn’t know better, I would definitely think there was something going on between those those two. Adam and Megan, who would’ve thought it????
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See? It’s easy. The supposed “tell” that it’s fiction is too much detail. When they’re lying, people add detail to make their stories sound real. So, you know, the dessert table and lounge and feathery soft hair that is shiny up close in the original story. All kinda over the top and unreal to my cynical eye.

Interesting article about ‘Afghan Star,’  a documentary of Afghanistan’s ‘American Idol’ -type TV show. The film shows Sunday at Aspen’s Paepcke Auditorium.

‘American Idol,’ transplanted in Afghanistan

I don’t know if those reports in the comments section of that story are true or not, but either way, I have decided that the supposedly quiet and shy Kris is really a big fat tease. He’s just having too much fun and obviously doesn’t give a damn about what anybody thinks. Same with Adam. Good for them.

Oh and good for Matt for booking his first solo show. He has been tweeting a lot about how he wanted to play a lot of dates in smaller venues once the AI tour ended. It sounds like he’s doing most of the planning/booking himself, rather than through any kind of manager. I hope he gets signed by someone soon — at least ny a management company if not a label, so he can get some help with all that he wants to do.

Someone who posts on the ontd_ai site evidently interviewed Adam, Scott, Michael, Anoop and Allison before the SD show. The interview isn’t posted yet, but evidently Adam talks about the Westboro Baptist Church crazies, inflatable kangaroos (!!!) and meeting Kris. Sounds like an interesting interview — hope it’s posted soon!

Just came back from taking my daughter shopping in NYC and I almost spazzed. The Skechers store in Times Square has a HUGE digital billboard of DC on the side of the store building. It’s one of those digital rotating billboards that has maybe 3 different Skechers ads and it features that shot of him in the record store with the blonde looking at him and the screen pans up from his shoes all the way to his face and they close up on his face and his name flashes across the screen. Very cool and I’m almost giddy :laugh_tb:

Yeah, last week I was shopping at the biggest mall in Virginia, and as I was walking through a popular commons area on the second floor (next to the food court, arcade, and escalators) I just so happened to walk by a poster with the same sketchers ad of DC. A nice surprise.

FlashFoward promo using Adam’s Mad World , starts around :30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x002MSETJfU

David Cook worked with just one producer, Rob Cavallo.

Taylor Hicks worked with one producer as well–Matt Serletic, and of course Daughtry, with Howard Benson (on both albums)

David Cook worked with just one producer, Rob Cavallo.

So did Daughtry (Howard Benson). I don’t knows what he means about breaking Idol tradition.

Yeah I wondered about this too when I initially read that article. But, then I concluded that is seemed to be the writer’s quote, not Kris’s.

Good job Matt! I’d like to see him in solo concert!

‘Also, one more thing. There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable. Kris is really comfortable in his own skin, isn’t he? How lovely. Or perhaps he was a little tipsy. Either way, it warmed my cold heart. Yes, it was THAT precious.

I would bet my house and all my belongings in it that this account is 100% fiction.

ETA: Showbiz Spy is a gossip rag, btw.

I would bet my house and all my belongings in it that this account is 100% fiction.

I would not take that bet!

Someone uploaded/is uploading all the behind the scenes from the ford commercials
http://www.youtube.com/user/SarcaCynicWitticist

Never mind.

There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable

oh for fuck’s sake!
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Here’s a feature on Adam that was in the SD Union-Tribune the other day. And check out the sidebar on how the reporter describes Adam and all the other Idols.

I haven’t been able to find a review of last night’s show on the Union-Tribune website. I wonder if they didn’t cover it, or if they are just late in posting.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jul/16/1w16adamm201519/?uniontrib

Bonking in the bunks…I’ve called it

FlashFoward promo using Adam’s Mad World , starts around :30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x002MSETJfU

That’s awesome! Looks like a good show too.

@girlygirl

“And check out the sidebar on how the reporter describes Adam and all the other Idols.”

I thought that sidebar was an epic fail. The article was enjoyable enough, but is that the best she could do coming up with the one or two-word persona classifications? (Is there a word for those?) If anyone in the world should know, it’s me. I do them all the time in my job and it’s hard to be clever, not cliche and keep the style consistent. But whew, a few of those I would never have uttered aloud in a brainstorming session. It’s like she let a junior high school class do them for her.

Most artists work with one producer or one production team – like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are a famous producer team – people in the dance/electronic/hip hop world are more likely to work with more than one producer because a lot of the hot producers in that field either don’t want to work on a whole album or they are expensive or it’s just what they do – I read an recent interview with The Matrix and one of them said they don’t like doing the whole album, they prefer working with different artists on a few songs.

Of course then if the album fails they can’t blame you, right, The Matrix?

And of course Timbaland is expensive as he boasts in his one song so for example Duran Duran worked with Timbaland for 2 songs. They loved working with Timbaland – I’ve heard the songs, the one worked the other did not.

Review of last night’s show:

http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-07-19/things-to-do/review-adam-lambert-shines-in-san-diego-idols-concert/comment-page-1#comment-8860

good 4 matt. hope he has new material by then cos doing a concert of other people’s songs on ur first solo concert is just funny. I think the rest have been told they wld not be signed and are now free to look elsewhere. I heard most times they are told b/4 the august 19 date. goodluck to all.

Valentin432
Jul 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Someone uploaded/is uploading all the behind the scenes from the ford commercials
http://www.youtube.com/user/SarcaCynicWitticist

Both pieces of music in that promo have a Simon Cowell connection. The instrumental in the beginning of the promo is “Requiem For A Tower” by Escala, a string quartet that Simon discovered and signed through BGT. And ofcourse the second piece of music is “Mad World” by our own HBIC.

Interesting. So, is it Fuller or Cowell who set this up?

FlashFoward promo using Adam’s Mad World , starts around :30

Thanks for posting. I have been waiting to see that every since it was mentioned yesterday.

I agree the Sign On San Diego sidebar is an “epic fail”:

ADAM LAMBERT: Rave-tent rocker Is she saying Adam is like the late 80′s crap performed in rave tents or just referring broadly to Dance music? Or artsy gay? And then to put WLL as his signature song under the word “rave” doesn’t make sense to me.

ALLISON IRAHETA: Go-girl belter ?? What, does this mean. Then she picks “Papa was a Rolling Stone” as a signature number?
Maybe she thinks Alison belongs on this site: http://www.gogirlmag.co.uk/

KRIS ALLEN: Cutely subversive acoustic rocker Well Kris is “cutely” but subversive is not the first word that I think of for Kris!

LIL ROUNDS: Soul-diva showstopper When did Lil ever “stop the show”?

MATT GIRAUD: Edgy pianoman 50% right because he does play the piano and he is a man. Does wearing that hat make him “edgy”?

SCOTT MACINTYRE: Endearing pianoman 50% right because he does play the piano and he is a man. “Endearing”?

The rest are at least closer:

ANOOP DESAI: Sensitive soul guy
DANNY GOKEY: Inspirational pop guy
MEGAN JOY CORKREY: Wacky chanteuse
MICHAEL SARVER: Blue-collar belter

I love Cat Deeley! I wish she had been nominated for reality host, too.

And of course Timbaland is expensive as he boasts in his one song so for example Duran Duran worked with Timbaland for 2 songs. They loved working with Timbaland – I’ve heard the songs, the one worked the other did not.

Sometimes using Timbaland for a whole album is not a good thing – his songs start to sound like one 30 minute long song – example: just take a listen to Omarion’s album.

“dannygokey .
Here is what I’m looking at. Don’t hate on my feet they need some TLC and a pedicure!! http://yfrog.com/7gbu9j
about 4 hours ago from Twitterrific
I’m @ a resort n Arizona laying out by the pool trying 2 catch a tan. Hopefully this pasty white will turn in2 something nice. I luv it here
about 4 hours ago from Twitterrific”

Danny, now I definitely know where the idols are staying…oh well, not like I’ll be chasing after them….but dinner out does sound nice.

15 minutes without SPF 60 even especially at 10 am in the morning….instant sun-burn. Ouch!!

Oh! Anyone who lives in the Phoenix area could recognize that resort!

How can you identify a tourist in Phoenix?

Ouch is right!

Maybe someone should twitter that he needs to take his pasty ass back inside.

I actually hope someone tells him. You can get a really bad burn in just 30 minutes in Phoenix in July — even in the shade. Particurlly if you are fair (or pasty) like Danny.

Just saw this is Rolling Stone —

And then there’s American Idol, which received too many technical and directing nominations to list. However, in the bigger categories, AI secured yet another Outstanding Reality – Competition Program nod (perhaps the magnetism of Adam Lambert will finally allow AI to win the category after losing six consecutive years to The Amazing Race) …

OK I love Adam and I know RS loves Adam, but this is going a bit too far!

There was a moment where Kris and Adam were standing side by side besides the deserts table in the lounge area when they just looked at each other. Kris gave Adam this smile scrunchy eyed smile, Adam smiled back, Kris then literally threw his head into Adam’s chest in this hilarious boyish, embarrassed manner, lol. Adam kissed his head, Kris looked up, smiled AGAIN and Adam kissed his forehead. LOL. It was very, very adorable

oh for fuck’s sake!

Man, you said it. Someone has been reading too much Kradam fan fiction. And I thought Mavid was bad last year.

Idk- if Adam is gay and Kris are friends their trying too hard …. ..The Kradam thing waiting for fiction about Kris leaving his wife for Adam..Its getting tiresome…OMG two guys are friends..

Kris Allen stated before think he is a little bland Blake was a better than Kris at do something w/ a song….The Adam should of won will contunue..I gather a part of the reason Kris won because mostly was the safe choice..and others did not bring it..(also being cute helped)Its like ya have to like Kris music or else …I am not a Drone…

Please, would someone who has twitter please tell Danny that this isn’t sunbathing territory….you can get burnt to a crisp sitting in the shade in Phoenix. I may not particularly like the guy but I know what a burn feels like.

Hey RS believes Muse is performing at the Video Music Awards because Adam is covering “Starlight”.

Um, no…Muse is performing at the VMAs because they are one of the best, and hottest, bands right now! They were great way before Adam was on AI…

As much as I love Adam, RS is WAY over the top in their love of him at times, crediting him for stuff he has little to nothing to do with. They are NOT going to have an unbiased review of his debut single/album when they drop…

They are NOT going to have an unbiased review of his debut single/album when they drop’ ¦

Maybe they’ll trash it. Who knows what they’ll do. November is a long way off.

Muse is performing at the VMAs because they are one of the best, and hottest, bands right now!

Muse is probably performing at the VMAs because they had a popular song on the Twilight soundtrack. They could not have asked for any better promotion than that. Now they are very popular with the tween crowd.

Here’s the San Diego review from the North County Times:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/07/19/entertainment/music/z9f5d6b46b567e3ec882575f700086506.txt

ANOOP DESAI: Sensitive soul guy

Yeah, because all sensitive soul guys pick Brittney Spears songs to feature???

More like frat-boy wannabee.

edit: Knock off the defensiveness. Everyone here is entitled to an opinion

Here’s the San Diego review from the North County Times:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/07/19/entertainment/music/z9f5d6b46b567e3ec882575f700086506.txt

This is how you salute the hometown kid! This is one for Leila Lambert’s scrap book.

ETA: I agree Vanjess38 – Kris, Adam, and Allison showed who the were from song 1 and never flipped flopped.

Here’s the San Diego review from the North County Times:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/07/19/entertainment/music/z9f5d6b46b567e3ec882575f700086506.txt

Great review of Adam, san Diego Loves their boy. This bit is my favourite:

By the time he descended into the stage with a final shout of “I love you, San Diego!” Lambert had proved he’s the total package —- voice, charisma, confidence, star power and good looks (a striking mix of broad-shouldered masculinity and almost feminine beauty enhanced by his trademark guyliner and shimmery electric blue eyeshadow).

Eber and Leila must be so proud this morning.

David Cook worked with just one producer, Rob Cavallo.

Taylor Hicks worked with one producer as well’“Matt Serletic, and of course Daughtry, with Howard Benson (on both albums)

So did any idol NOT work with one producer before?

The NCTimes review is great! And, I agree that is one for Leila’s scrapbook!

So did any idol NOT work with one producer before?

They’ve gone both ways. Producers with “producer credit” for first album by Idol alums:

Kelly: Clive Davis (exec.), Carl Sturken and Evan Rogers, Rhett Lawrence, Clif Magness, Matthew Wilder, Steve Ferrera, The Underdogs, Babyface, Louis Biancaniello, Sam Watters, Steve Mac, Desmond Child, Cathy Dennis

Ruben: Melvin “St. Nick” Coleman, Dre & Vidal, Face, Irv Gotti & Jimi Kendrix, Fred Hammond, Kevin Hicks, Jazze Pha, Harold Lilly, James McMillan, Evan Rogers, Lil Ronnie, Carl Sturken, Swizz Beatz, Gerard Thomas, The Underdogs

Clay: Clive Davis

Fantasia: Clive Davis

Carrie: Dann Huff, Mark Bright

Taylor: Matt Serletic

Chris Daughtry: Howard Benson

Jordin: Stargate, Jonas Jeberg, Cutfather, Robbie Nevil, The Underdogs, Erik “Bluetooth” Griggs, Bloodshy & Avant, Espionage, Emanuel Kiriakou, Klas Ahlund, Stephen Lipson

David Cook: Rob Cavallo

David A.: David Archuleta, Emanuel Kiriakou, David Hodges, Steve Kipner, Steve McEwan, Wayne Wilkins, Mike Krompass, Matthew Gerrard, Robbie Nevil, Antonina Armato, Tim James, Midi Mafia, Dapomiro Productions, Desmond Child, Andreas Carlsson, JC Chasez, Jimmy Harry, Eric Rosse.

So did any idol NOT work with one producer before?

Jordin Sparks worked with lots of different producers, and so did Kelly Clarkson on her latest album. I’m sure there are others too.

The set highlight is Muse’s “Starlight,” a galactic high note-filled song that showcases the power, control and range of his voice.

Nice counterpoint to the comment by the “music” critic from PE.com who referred to Starlight as the worst vocal performance of the night. Umm, no. Then she later clarified her statement to say she didn’t think it was a good choice for him because if didn’t really show off his voice. Hmmm. This reviewer seems to disagree.

Of course the music guru from PE.com was the same person who noticed that Kris was the only performer drinking water on stage and thought that was critical to an understanding of his performance …

Andreas Carlsson? Heh, he is a judge in the swedish idol program. Like Kara, he wrote the last coronation song, and like NoBo, it was terrible.

Had to laugh….David A. had more producers than tracks on his first album.

I call that Kradam bluff. The story doesn’t make much sense to me. I like Kradam, but that’s just a bit far.

And holy God, Adam can stand to cut back on guyliner. He looks pretty ghoulish. I don’t mind what he did before, but there’s a line, man. Then again, Kris’s picture looks like he’s wearing lipstick, it may be some weird “too much color” thing going on in the picture.

And blue doesn’t work well for eyeliner anyway. Too flashy. Or is it eyeshadow? Or is there not even a difference?

heres something a little more fun.. lol

Spongebob bash today they aired 10 celebrity picks on Nick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHG4pv1znXs&feature=player_embedded

David A picked ‘Band Geeks’ lol

Here’s the San Diego review from the North County Times:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/07/19/entertainment/music/z9f5d6b46b567e3ec882575f700086506.txt

I enjoy reading this report. It’s not a rash or pre-written piece. You can tell that the reporter did his homework before the show and watched it till the last song. He obviously had his focus, but did somehow elaborate the base of his opinions. He weighed the idols’ vocal performance as well as their stage presence, which makes sense to me because he was reviewing a concert not an album. He gave his comments to all performers on these two aspects.

David A worked with JC Chasez – very cool. I wish JC has more recognition as a solo artist, I love his solo album.

Yeah, last week I was shopping at the biggest mall in Virginia, and as I was walking through a popular commons area on the second floor (next to the food court, arcade, and escalators) I just so happened to walk by a poster with the same sketchers ad of DC. A nice surprise.

You and I must be “neighbors!” I saw that ad in Pentagon City and was a little surprised because — for me — the Skechers thing was not very prominent before now.

By the way, I applaud Kris for working with one producer on his album. It allows for a lot of cohesion.

Yeah JC Chasez co wrote Dont Let Go with David

By the way, I applaud Kris for working with one producer on his album. It allows for a lot of cohesion.

yes, that makes a lot of sense. This will definitly work better for him

NBC San Diego AI concert report
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/around_town/the_scene/Idols-Took-San-Diegos-Stage-Lambert-Took-Their-Hearts-.html

NBC San Diego photos.

You can see
- the bubbles at DSB
- Michael’s intro
- Anoop back scence: lots of bubbles. what song is that?
- Danny and sunshine thro trees
- floor section was packed, ppl were dancing

yes, that makes a lot of sense. This will definitly work better for him

I think so. Was Kris in a band before AI with someone he could trust?

What helped Cook — considering he was also on the AI tour while his album was being developed — is that he had his trusted former band mate and current lead guitarist, Neal Tiemann, standing in for him, working with Cavallo, ensuring that his wishes were being carried out. Neal was being “David,” when David couldn’t be there.

One of Danny’s backgrounds reminded me of the Atari game ‘Super Break out’

Kris won because he got the votes–end of story–My opinion of part of the reason I call a guess of why he won..His music on Ai for me was a little bland…It may change or not…You can respectfully disagree….

Clay: Clive Davis

Clive was the Executive Producer, but there were a bunch of track producers. Much like Archie’s, I think there were more producers than tracks.

Here’s the San Diego review from the North County Times:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/07/19/entertainment/music/z9f5d6b46b567e3ec882575f700086506.txt

Can’t say I am surprised he choose to write 80% of his article on Adam, at least he’s got a good reason to do so.
But he did pay respect to all idols and that’s more than a lot of other reviewer so kudos to him!

Question for the fans from the Philippines. This article has this quote

The rockers were also well-represented. When You Look Me In The Eyes by Jonas Brothers; That’s What You Get by Paramore; Beat It by Fall Out Boy; Viva La Vida by Coldplay; The Time Of My Life by David Cook who had the most single releases out in the market at the same time than any AI winner. And we listened to them all, Dream Big, I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For, I Don’t Want To Miss A Thing, The World That I Know and Always Be My Baby.

Were all those really released as singles there??

I am quite sure about all the non-related AI singles. As for David Cook’s, I guess so. I sometimes still hear I Don’t Want to Miss A Thing on the Radio, as well as Always be My Baby. We also have Sony-BMG here which releases AI music.

Besides the Philippines just loves AI. I was at a grocery the week after the MJ week for this season, and guess what? They’re playing Adam’s Black or White (the wail was undeniably Adam’s). No Boundaries (Kris Allen’s version) is being played here. Archie’s Touch My Hand has been on the top spot for 5 or 6 consecutive weeks, besting David Cook’s Come Back To Me (w/c I think is at #4) based on MYX, the local version of MTV (I saw the chart on tv last week or 2 weeks ago).

I think so. Was Kris in a band before AI with someone he could trust?

What helped Cook ‘” considering he was also on the AI tour while his album was being developed ‘” is that he had his trusted former band mate and current lead guitarist, Neal Tiemann, standing in for him, working with Cavallo, ensuring that his wishes were being carried out. Neal was being ‘David,’  when David couldn’t be there.

He self-produced (might be helped though by a local producer who noticed him on the bar scene) with 2 of his friends – bass player and a drummer.
That’s a good question. I wonder if they will be aboard when he kicks off his first solo tour

You and I must be ‘neighbors!’  I saw that ad in Pentagon City and was a little surprised because ‘” for me ‘” the Skechers thing was not very prominent before now.

Now that you mention it they do seem to be more prominent now. I saw the ads in malls and magazines a few months back but what I saw today was definitely the largest and most fancy yet. This particular ad I’ve been seeing occasionally on subways and bus stops in Manhattan. Wow now that I’m really looking at that one is it me or he is looking very Kris-like with the acoustic guitar and plaid shirt?

I picked up a jordin sparks album.There was a pic of kris in it.It said to buy his album in november.I thought it was weird to put a ad on a R&B cd.Does this mean kris is leaning towards R&B? Since they put his pic in a R&B album???

I wonder if they will be aboard when he kicks off his first solo tour

Tough question…does Kris go the Daughtry route and handpick proven musicians who are looking for a gig and a long term commitment, leaving your old bandmates behind? Or does he follow in David C’s footsteps and honors the commitment he had to his old and trusted friends?

Hard to know how to handle that. There are so many good session musicians out there that you can really surround yourself with the best…but as David A. found out the best are expensive and he opted out and signed up musicians who were basically from his home state. I think so much depends, for Kris, on the type of artist he is looking to become. If he is more interested in radio play and albums then he can change up his band for recordings and tours. But if he wants to go the small venue 200plus concerts a year he needs to have a “tied to him band” that will eventually become part of the Kris Allen package.

I picked up a jordin sparks album.There was a pic of kris in it.It said to buy his album in november.I thought it was weird to put a ad on a R&B cd.Does this mean kris is leaning towards R&B? Since they put his pic in a R&B album???

That is odd, but they may have just been focusing on the Jive/ AI connection and not necessarily the genre *shrugs*

That’s a good question. I wonder if they will be aboard when he kicks off his first solo tour

I would love to know that as well. It’ll depend on their skill level of course. (Will Kris have a band the way David does or will there just be musicians accompanying him as a solo perfomer?)

I am not sure, but Cook’s former band mates may have had to “audition.” At least, Andy probably did. Not sure about Neal, as he was already working with David’s new post AI people and there was no question about his skill level. Neal was the only one of David’s current band who actually played on David’s post Idol album. (And of course Kyle and Joey were new additions after the album was made.)

That being said, I’m assuming — if they all stick with David — that these are the guys who will play and work on the next album. They’re pretty tight at this point.

Whole bunch of videos from last night’s show are posted at beginning of this thread…

http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/1258189.html

I picked up a jordin sparks album.There was a pic of kris in it.It said to buy his album in november.I thought it was weird to put a ad on a R&B cd.Does this mean kris is leaning towards R&B? Since they put his pic in a R&B album???

That sounds like jive promotion type thing. Although it may confuse people. They might expect Kris to be somewhat R&B too.

I would love to know that as well. It’ll depend on their skill level of course. (Will Kris have a band the way David does or will there just be musicians accompanying him as a solo perfomer?)

I listened to some of his pre-idol tracks and they seem to me to be fairly good but I’m not a good enough judge in that matter to say if they are competent enough at the pro level.

On another note, I checked out the lyrics he wrote for the song ‘Wastin’ Time’ and it made me smile; this guy was so ready for a change in his life.

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/k/kris_allen/wastin_time.html

That Kradam account says that Adam came out before the show to sign autographs–wasn’t there a whole big discussion yesterday about how he never does that? So, that would seem to make it clear that this story is (sadly) not true.

On another note, I checked out the lyrics he wrote for the song ‘Wastin’ Time’ and it made me smile; this guy was so ready for a change in his life.

I heard that song. I loved it. It’s one of the reasons why I supported Kris for the AI win. I’m hoping that he takes that direction with his next album.

KRIS ALLEN: Cutely subversive acoustic rocker Well Kris is ‘cutely’  but subversive is not the first word that I think of for Kris!

Q3, I was wondering why the word subversive and finally got it.
The ATTTID song on his set has been labeled by some as ANTI-FLAG.

I heard that song. I loved it. It’s one of the reasons why I supported Kris for the AI win. I’m hoping that he takes that direction with his next album.

Yeah, it’s good. He’s grown a lot since and if i’m not mistaken it’s going to be probably more edgy and dynamic

I can’t wait to see how Adam and Kris choose their respective bands. I seem to remember Daughtry was put together by auditions with members from Cali and one from I believe Tennessee (trusting my memory here). Cook as we all know welcomed back old trusted bandmates. Archie went the audition route and has two LA musicians, one from Nashville and one from Utah. Jordin has been through several different band configurations. I am particularly interested in what type of musicians Adam will choose. Most of the solo artists like Archie and Jordin usually do not keep their band members on the payroll year ’round and I wonder if Kris and Adam will do the solo thing or be part of a band like Cook and Daughtry.

We really don’t know what Kris or even Adam will do to promote their albums. They may even open for or share billing with someone else. I think Taylor was the first Idol to do strictly a solo tour. He had fronted a band for years so it was natural for him to go it alone. His tour was quite successful. Cook also spent lot of time in a band so he also went on a solo tour. Jive will be making the final decision on this I’m sure for Kris and RCA for Adam. Daughtry’s old band had to try out and I don’t think any made the new band. Of Taylor’s old band members, several played part-time for him as they were married and didn’t want to be on the road that long. It’ll be interesting to see how things work out.

Here’s an amazing review of the San Diego concert from the Green Valley News
and Sun. Green Valley is outside of San Diego and has a median age of 70.2!

The whole review is worth a read, but here are a few of my favorite parts:

I, along with a lot of other people of all ages and races can’t seem to get enough of this 27-year-old versatile performer who some characterize as a glam rocker. Adam is known as much for his unique style as for his three-octave vocal range. From his first performance, we knew Adam had star quality. His fiercely loyal army of fans, called Glamberts, Google him daily, download anything Adam on iTunes and call him the next Elvis.

I don’t think people expected this openly-gay Idol to have such a large base of devoted older female fans.

‘Adam is a very talented singer, is adorable, has a great personality and is going to go far,’  said Mary Thompson, 69, of Green Valley. ‘I was very surprised he didn’t win Idol and felt he should have! He was the best!’ 

Adam has the uncanny ability to draw people like a magnet. He allows us into his world, and shows us who he is with no filter. This makes him very appealing and makes us feel like we really know him.

Carmen Scarlott, 63, of Green Valley likes that Adam is true to himself.

‘Adam, like Elvis, has connected with people from 8 to 80,’  she said. ‘He is a showman who plays to his audience. He is phenomenally talented.’ 

By all accounts Adam is a polite, humble guy. He shows us it’s O.K. to be different and promotes being positive. Adam holds nothing back in terms of his performance or his personal life.

‘I am 61 and am feeling like a teen again,’  said Patricia Campana of San Diego. ‘I was part of the frenzy back in the Elvis days, loved the dramatics, the glitter, the over-the-top talent. Now with Adam it is the same, I am a love-sick groupie again… For me, he reminds me and re-inspires me that no matter that I am 61, that spirit is still alive in me.’  Also in the floor seats were San Diego residents Annette Miller, 62, attending with her daughter Stacey and granddaughter.

They have ‘been talking and blogging about Rock God (Adam) and this concert forever!’  she said. ‘What to wear, etc. I have never, ever become so infatuated, mesmerized, intoxicated with any celebrity as I have with Adam. The last time I purchased anything to listen to was 20 years ago. He is so talented, gorgeous, charismatic.’ 

Leather chic Toni Meurlot, 60-plus of San Diego, proclaimed, ‘I have loved Adam since I first saw him in the auditions. He’s hot, he’s smart and very funny. He is also very grounded. I love his sense of style… it parallels my own. I would not miss this concert for the world!’ .

Here’s a link to the whole article:

American Idol’s Lambert a hit with GV crowd

Q3, I was wondering why the word subversive and finally got it.
The ATTTID song on his set has been labeled by some as ANTI-FLAG.

Well, I guess I’m too much a “child” of the late 60′s/early 70′s to call that subversive. Now if he burned the flag, I’d go with subversive. But — OK — the subversive guy next door who married the homecoming queen. In all seriousness, I love the fact that Kris is so laid back and normal, and at the same time is quietly passionate about his music.

Don’t know if this was posted, but you can definitely hear Adam singing the ending of Mad World in this Flash Forward promo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XMKW33u54

You and I must be ‘neighbors!’  I saw that ad in Pentagon City and was a little surprised because ‘” for me ‘” the Skechers thing was not very prominent before now.

Haha, hi, neighbors! I saw the ad at Pentagon City too . And my husband rolled his eyes at me. I guess I see David Cook ads or hear David Cook songs and grin. Oh well, lol.

An admittedly biased review of the Staples Center show from a friend of Adam’s (scroll down).

http://www.karaokewithkenny.com/

Is there going to be an Adam interview in Larry King’s show? Does anyone know when it’s aired?

This is a very cute and well done Kradam video on youtube that includes their voice clips about the crush and various tv and tour adorable photos of them.
(sorry if it’s already posted, but I didn’t see it here)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdFhPt3Qffg&eurl=http://gossipcandy.com/&feature=player_embedded

Check out the bloopers yt from when Kris & Adam did
top 40′s radio show for Ryan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J2Z4dT2mlA&feature=channel_page

Yup, Karaoke Kenny is biased — this is his back of the hand to Kris:

1: Kris Allen……probably the nicest most gracious winner in Idol history, as he KNOWS that he is not the real winner, that Adam is….which he agrees with. It is IMPOSSIBLE to follow Adam on a stage, so Kris sets out to do his best. The guy CAN sing, and he is easy on the eyes, but its just…..well……impossible. A total anti-climatic set.

That’s his opinion, fine. But I don’t believe Kris “knows” he is not “the real winner” because guess what? He DID win, no matter how you slice it. And as I think many other reviewers have expressed, he and Adam are a fine yin and yang in concert, because Adam is not the be-all end all for everyone nor is Kris……

sorry, I know it’s harkening back to the fan wars, but I can’t help it…

Colette,
Save your breathe, don’t you know who he is,and where he belongs? He is just stupid because he forgets Kris is not going to follow Adam in concert after AI tour. Forget about that loser. People are still peaved because Adam didn’t win American Idol. What is the sense in being bitter towards Kris if he believes Adam is a superstar already, which means he doesn’t even need the idol title. OMG, peope should just give it up. Ha! Kris is in his own league, so is Adam, none of them needs the other to make up. They will all do fine after AI tour. I don’t know why people keep on comparing their styles which are totally different. Can you imagine Kris wearing glitter,eyeshadow’ sing WLL and gyrating on stage?It will lbe funny and hell will break loose. In the same way I can’t imagine Adam standing on stage, wearing plaid and ordinary jeans, with a guitar in hand, singing heartless,it will just not be him. hahaha.I don’t take people like Kenny serious. Forget about him!

That’s his opinion, fine. But I don’t believe Kris ‘knows’  he is not ‘the real winner’  because guess what? He DID win, no matter how you slice it. And as I think many other reviewers have expressed, he and Adam are a fine yin and yang in concert, because Adam is not the be-all end all for everyone nor is Kris’ ¦’ ¦

sorry, I know it’s harkening back to the fan wars, but I can’t help it’ ¦

I am an Adam fan but I agree with you.
I think that the idols hometown press should make an extra effort to be unbiased, it would reflect better on them.

That’s his opinion, fine. But I don’t believe Kris ‘knows’  he is not ‘the real winner’  because guess what? He DID win, no matter how you slice it.

.. yep. I guess some just can’t get over it

I think that the idols hometown press should make an extra effort to be unbiased, it would reflect better on them

Having read most of the SD reviews so far, I thought they did a more balanced job than a lot of the press in previous cities.

The piece that angered recent posters is a blog, not press. And, I’d say, the blogger is pretty up front about his bias, as he begins his review with:

I preface this review by full disclosure up front. By now, you guys are SICK of me bragging about my friend Adam Lambert, and how proud of him I am. . .:

Lets enjoy ourselves with some kradam stuff this morning instead of worrying about blobbgers and the press or whatever they are called. Feed your eyes and thoughts now!

http://wat234.livejournal.com/

Here’s a review from the San Diego paper — just by an intern, so it looks like they did not send a reporter to this concert. It was in the midst of San Diego Pride, the biggest event of the year in San Diego, so it’s not really totally surprising.

Lambert and Idols rock Sports Arena

For Kris fans, it contains this:

Although the predominantly female fans went crazy for Lambert, their cheering for ‘American Idol’  winner Kris Allen, who sang Kanye West’s ‘Heartless’  and Bill Withers’ ‘Ain’t No Sunshine,’  was just as loud.

Also, here’s a bit more about Adam’s album from MTV.com:

Adam Lambert To Fuse Classic-Rock Sound With ‘Dancier’ Vibe On Debut

Just like during his “Idol” journey, Lambert is planning to shake up tempos and styles on the yet-untitled LP.

“It goes back and forth,” he said. “There’s some ballads, there’s some uptempo, there’s some songs that are a little bit more straightforward, current pop. There are some songs that are more dance; there are some songs that are straight rock.”

Don’t know if this was posted, but you can definitely hear Adam singing the ending of Mad World in this Flash Forward promo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XMKW33u54

Hey, BestAI! Thanks so much for posting this! I actually put that up last night :smile_wp: Yea, first youtube vid for me!

Sorry for the bad quality (I don’t have the tech to transfer directly from tv to computer, because I’m a little new to this) but I was so frustrated with not being able to catch the Flash Forward promo with Adam singing, that I decided to watch parts of the British Open (well, actually record it and watch it on fast forward) to try and catch it. Sure enough, there it was!

Should be getting more heavy rotation on ABC – Yeah, Adam!

Adam Lambert To Fuse Classic-Rock Sound With ‘Dancier’ Vibe On Debut

Just like during his ‘Idol’  journey, Lambert is planning to shake up tempos and styles on the yet-untitled LP.

‘It goes back and forth,’  he said. ‘There’s some ballads, there’s some uptempo, there’s some songs that are a little bit more straightforward, current pop. There are some songs that are more dance; there are some songs that are straight rock.’ 

Sounds good wrt the album! I can’t wait for this to come out! Ryan Tedder, iirc mentioned a bit of a Tears for Fears influence as well – yea!

He’s upfront about his bias. I fail to see what the problem is. Its a blogger’s review, he isnt asking for your approval or agreement

Here’s a HQ YouTube of FlashForward with Adam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x002MSETJfU

And, yes, this appears to be the one they are going to use on air. 1.00 minute; Adam starts around 0.30.
There is also a 15 second spot with a sample of the Mad World music, no Adam vocal.

The piece that angered recent posters is a blog, not press. And, I’d say, the blogger is pretty up front about his bias

My mistake, I should have read the whole blog. I agree that there is nothing to get upset about

I totally agree with the above posts that “some just can’t get over it”. This is the nature of AI. Last season, David Cook wasn’t supposed to win, but did and to this day (over a year later) some DA fans are still pissed.

Here’s a HQ YouTube of FlashForward with Adam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x002MSETJfU

And, yes, this appears to be the one they are going to use on air. 1.00 minute; Adam starts around 0.30.
There is also a 15 second spot with a sample of the Mad World music, no Adam vocal.

Ahh, glad someone was able to get an HQ version – wish I knew how to do that myself, but I guess that’s something to figure out later

I totally agree with the above posts that ‘some just can’t get over it’ . This is the nature of AI. Last season, David Cook wasn’t supposed to win, but did and to this day (over a year later) some DA fans are still pissed.

The vast majority of Adam fans are “over it”. But some people will never let it go. It’s been over 6 years, and some Clay fans aren’t “over it”.

Everyone is biased. There is no objective review. lol. I thought that was common sense. We see and hear music through our own eyes and ears. Just because someone see’s Adam as the “real” winner or likes him better doesn’t make them bitter or less worthy of an opinion as anyone else. Every comment on this blog is biased… LOL In fact, I actually respect the guy for saying up front he’s biased. Seriously, the way the Idols placed on the show doesn’t mean they aren’t going to be liked more or less by their fans. I have a friend who LOVES Matt. Even though he only placed 5th doesn’t matter to her. She is going to the concert to see just him.

Seriously, Kris fans are as bad or worse than the Adam fans.

Personally, I can’t wait until Fall and the tour is over and Adam, and Kris, and Allison can head out into the real world. And I hope at sometime they will stop being introduced as American Idol winner, runner-up, or finalist. Whenever I hear those words associated with any of the former Idols I totally cringe. I think after several million albums competing against other recording artists that the words American Idol could just fade into oblivion.

And yes it would be nice if fans could stop the competition but they aren’t and won’t. The should haves and could haves will always be alive and well in Idoldom.

But then media and press is always strange. I still read introductions like “former boy bander and disney star” for Justin Timberlake…what the fuck. And on the radio Fergie and Gwen still get linked to their old groups even when doing a solo number. And I heard the other day…”Sting, lead singer of the Police”, and that was an ohmy moment.

Labels…..just have to ignore them or they will drive you crazy. Every singer has to carry their career baggage along with them.

Hey Squirelly not familiar with Omarion, Timbaland worked well on Nelly’s album that hit big and I have to check and see if he worked on the whole thing, that was my impression from what Nelly said and many of her songs are gorgeous songs that you would not think Timbaland had anything to do with, she has some wonderful ballads on that album and he did some great stuff for Justin Timberlake and I love his own album where he colloborated with many different artists. He and Missy Elliot together were dynamite.

Timbaland however might just be running out of ideas and needs yet another shift to challenge him – he said hip hop was boring him so he worked with Nelly and Justin and he was saying he wanted to work with some rock artists as his next challenge – I believe Duran Duran was the first foray not that I would call Duran Duran rock per se and it didn’t really work out in terms of producing a hit – you win some you lose some – the problem with bragging about hot you are is there are always 10 new hot producers on your tail.

I imagine that the reason it looks like, from the list posted above, that many Idols have worked with more producers which is not the norm is a combination of the rush to get that album out by November, easier to do that with several producers working on the various songs I would imagine and because 19 has the resources to pull that off. I personally think one producer for all if not most of the album gives an album a cohesiveness that you just don’t get with using several producers and I dare say that most of the albums that become classics over time have been one producer or one producer team, like Lanois and Eno on many U2 albums. It just may be that for the artists or fans of certain kinds of music, that is not something that is important or those artists through their own participation or writing lyrics ensure some kind of cohesiveness in spite of a number of producers or make sure they have one producer who gathers it all and put a cohesive stamp on it in the final mix. My guess is Lady GaGa’s album has a cohesiveness to it just by hearing the singles so far but it seems to me she had a lot of control in its production herself.

2 tweets from Allison and Kris:

KrisAllen4RealI hear it’s like 140.35 degrees in Arizona. Yay! If you decide to throw ice on stage…..I wouldn’t be mad. I know it sounds dangerous.

Allison4Realzzz had an awesome photo shoot today!! sorry i haven’t been updatin’ u guys!! you know how lazy i am!! well Arizona!! cant wait fo tmrw!! whooo

From the GV news article:

I don’t think people expected this openly-gay Idol to have such a large base of devoted older female fans.

The reporter never went to an Idol concert, she doesn’t know what to expect.
THe idol audience is getting older and older every year, these old women (refered pejoratively as cougar or frauen) tend to support one of the guys that are in the competition (last year the two davids or this year Adam and Kris), nothing new about that at all.

“And I hope at sometime they will stop being introduced as American Idol winner, runner-up, or finalist.”

This will never happen.

And the “traditional Idol fan” is a middle aged or older lady. That started w/Clay Aiken and seems to be the norm for the guys. I think the average Idol fan is a woman in her 40s. And the median age goes up every year as fewer children/teens watch the show.

The reporter never went to an Idol concert, she doesn’t know what to expect.
THe idol audience is getting older and older every year, these old women (refered pejoratively as cougar or frauen) tend to support one of the guys that are in the competition (last year the two davids or this year Adam and Kris), nothing new about that at all.

And the ‘traditional Idol fan’  is a middle aged or older lady. That started w/Clay Aiken and seems to be the norm for the guys. I think the average Idol fan is a woman in her 40s. And the median age goes up every year as fewer children/teens watch the show.

Sure, the demographics of Idol really have shifted older. In January 2005, the median viewer was 35. Last year, the figure had crept up to 38.2. This year it hit 40. That makes Idol about average since the US population has an average age of 38. (When you adjust for children <2 years old the average age is over 41.)

The GV writer’s point isn’t so much that there were older fans at the concert. Her point was that it was surprising to see so many women over 60 from Green Valley who were Adam fans. Green Valley is a retirement community outside San Diege with an average age of 70. It is a conservative Republican area. They’re not just avid fans of an AI alum; they are avid fans of an openly gay performer who until recently was a headliner in the Zodiac Club Show. I believe that was her main point.

I think people underestimate older ladies, first of all, how many older women grew up in the era of free love and drugs in the late 1960s and 1970s – I am sure many boomer women are less conservative than many younger women and seen and done more things and are more open minded than given credit for. And San Francisco was not only one of the major meeting places for the Summer and Summers of Love, but also the gay mecca. I bet some of those ladies were marching in protests in the days of Harvey Milk.

Remember the show with Michael Fox where his parents were the liberal hippies and he was the conservative kid embarrassed by them.

I have always seen California as being a mecca for more liberal minded types [in Canada that is British Columbia, something about the West Coast bwah] – see Berkeley but having met some more conservative Californians I guess California is an interesting mix of liberal and conservative. Even then the conservative Californians I met were more fiscally conservative than morally conservative – in fact they are pretty wild which is why I was surprised at their otherwise conservative stances. Which just goes to prove that small “c” conservative and liberal mean different things to different people and as Chris Rock said rather adeptly most people are liberal on some issues and conservative on others, few people are totally one or the other on all issues. American need the middle third party, bwah.

And let’s not forget who all the fans of Liberace were and come on, even though he was in the closet, sort of, you don’t think 90 per cent of his female fans knew but couldn’t care less?

Though a lot more men are fans of Idol than one would think – probably more in the line however that American Idol is a family affair and actually it is a nice warm fuzzy thought that whole families are getting together to watch American Idol and perhaps discussing music and other issues along that line.

Lets enjoy ourselves with some kradam stuff this morning instead of worrying about blobbgers and the press or whatever they are called. Feed your eyes and thoughts now!

http://wat234.livejournal.com

Umm. I love Kradam and all, but I’m not really enjoying this fan’s fantasies cloaked in pseudo-analytical gibberish. She takes the two recent fan “stories” and tries to break them down part by part and find corroborating evidence for each. Okay, maybe I can see Adam waiting for Kris by the door and a cheeky comment from Kris. But the second one, about the forehead kiss? Uh, no, didn’t happen. And these are her/his conclusions:

My Kradam Feelings

I feel that what has initially started as an innocent friendship between them has steadily progressed into something more. Perhaps initially it was just an unrequited love on Adam’s part (I refuse to believe that it is a crush since I think Adam was trying to make light of the situation) and playful teasing on Kris part. However, I think now, it is has progressed into a two-way relationship.

Supposedly, Matt, Danny and Michael are trying to run interference and create a distraction (the Kratt butt swatting incident) to protect Adam and Kris from the public finding out about their supposed relationship? Michael, really? In the words of Adam, this fan needs to get a life! LOL

LaurelG
Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am
In the words of Adam, this fan needs to get a life! LOL

Serious word!!!!

These Kradam shippers are getting nuttier by the day