Idol Headlines for 07/14/09

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Re: Adam the Diva

Oh, please! From the people who brought you the Adam/Kris feud (National Enquirer). No sources; just “scandal”. When has Adam ever complained about costumes and makeup? It’s more like “Yippee! Costumes! Makeup!”

HERE is a video of Archie describing a typical day on tour.

DA: “A day on tour is pretty much: Wake up on the bus. Kind of let your-, allow yourself to kind of wake up and stuff and then get off. If it’s early enough, eat breakfast. If not, go inside and eat lunch…” :laugh_tb:

LOLz at the National Ledger gossip piece. Even that author couldn’t complete her writing with a straight face (keyboard.) Way to blink at the end. Too funny!

When did Adam work with Usher?

The Washington Post review of Daughtry’s new album is laugh out loud hilarious.

Washington Post review is very funny. And true.

When has Adam ever complained about costumes and makeup? It’s more like ‘Yippee! Costumes! Makeup!’ 

:lol_tb:

DA: ‘A day on tour is pretty much: Wake up on the bus. Kind of let your-, allow yourself to kind of wake up and stuff and then get off. If it’s early enough, eat breakfast. If not, go inside and eat lunch’ ¦’ 

Yep, that my Archie, has his priorities in order……food!

:wink1_tb:

Adam’s doing one heck of a job improving on his performances every concert while not attending rehearsals.

Daughtry plays a free concert at Seattle’s Paramount Theatre on Friday, with tickets available through radio stations 106.1 KISS FM and STAR 105.1 FM.

I’m surprised that Daughtry is doing a free concert, in a 2,000 seat venue. Is this to get radio airplay? I don’t follow Daughtry but though that I read his tour is quite successful. Can someone fill me in.

LOLz at the National Ledger gossip piece. Even that author couldn’t complete her writing with a straight face (keyboard.) Way to blink at the end. Too funny!

That’s beacuse this is an article making fun of the National Enquirer for their silly articles. Which I think they did! Better than last time when MSNBC (a real news site) bought the whole Diva story.

From today’s People mag “Caught in the Act!” celebrity column:

American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert, visiting friends who are in the touring cast of the musical Wicked during a late-night visit to the Redwood Room in San Francisco’s Clift Hotel. Lambert, who performed in the show before his Idol days, was mobbed by fans as soon as he arrived at the bar ‘“ so a private security detail had to join the singer at his table, where he sipped a vodka tonic and hung out with his pals.

Yup. Washington Post. Fave part -”xxx most of the accompanying debate centered on whether the ‘American Idol’  finalist would have any credibility as a rock singer. He didn’t, xxx.” And I thought I read it wrong.

Both the Daughtry Wash post review and the Adam Diva bits got me laughing out loud. The Daughtry one was written by a schizophrenic and the Adam one made me spit coke on my keyboard because, yeah, the vids of him sure look like he didn’t rehearse. Right.

I was just going to say that, JazzRocks. For someone supposedly not attending rehearsals, Adam seems to be getting better and better every week. Articles like that give journalists like me a bad name. Grrrr.

Re: Adam the Diva

Oh, please! From the people who brought you the Adam/Kris feud (National Enquirer). No sources; just ‘scandal’ . When has Adam ever complained about costumes and makeup? It’s more like ‘Yippee! Costumes! Makeup!’ 

Were they really the ones who also brought up the Kris/Adam fight? Yeah, their credibility is really sound, isn’t it. :rolleyes_wp:Ugh.

It seems like Adam is an easy target for any kind of “diva” rumors, but really, the guy kicks butt on tour – is that any fault of his? Or any reason to make him into a diva?

And he’s never been anything but kind and generous to the others. Wasn’t Adam the one calling Kris to make sure he didn’t over sleep for a rehearsal? Alls I’m saying is he seems to be very committed to putting in the hard work, which he knows all too well coming from theater.

Why has this purported “story” by The National Enquirer not yet appeared online? I just checked there and it’s nowhere to be found on the website. All we’ve seen is this second-hand report by The National Ledger, whatever the hell that is!

ETA: And of course, just like the last “diva” story from MSNBC, this is courtesy of another anonymous source. What’s the matter, are these “sources” afraid the “diva” is going to bitch-slap them if he finds out who they are?

Daughtry doesn’t sound worse than what I’ve heard in the radio nowadays. So I expect I’ll hear him a lot (again).

At least the online media gets the humour of Idoldom even if a lot of the fans don’t.

I agree about the funny review of Daughtry in the Post. It brings up one of those points I have to worry about now that the next crop of idols tries to make it big.

Chris worked out because, well, he had some great songs, but for the most part, he adhered to a tried and true formula, no real innovation, just nickleback-ish rock easily digestible to the masses. That leads to mucho #1 hits and success, but doesn’t exactly leave you breathless, speechless, awe-struck or otherwise fascinated by the man and his music.

Makes me a little nervous for Adam, Kris, and Allison – how much will they have to, or be willing to, sacrifice personal style, edge, and innovation, in order to play it safe and have the highest chance of scoring a smash hit album? I’m afraid Kris and Allison may be taken more down the path of “conformity”, molded into a certain, pre-approved niche of music, but that could also be good for them, in the sense of doing well commercially.

Adam, otoh, may not be willing to sacrifice as much, which could lead to either some surprisingly new, original sounds from him that are still embraced by a large audience (one hopes!), or completely scares off anyone not willing to embrace the “new”, “real” Adam.

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That was a cool LINK, froggie! I pulled out the idols from the list. Sorry if I missed anybody…

Adam Lambert — Call for Price
Blake Lewis — $10,000 Plus
Bo Bice — $10,000 Plus
Carrie Underwood — $500,000 Plus
Clay Aiken — $100,000-$150,000
Daughtry — $150,000-$200,000
David Archuleta — $40,000 Plus
David Cook — $30,000-$50,000
Fantasia — $100,000-$200,000
Jennifer Hudson — $100,000 Plus
Jordin Sparks — $75,000-$125,000
Josh Gracin — $15,000-$25,000
Kellie Pickler — $30,000-$40,000
Kelly Clarkson — $250,000 Plus
Kris Allen — Call for Price
Taylor Hicks — $15,000-$30,000

@will

The story has been out since 2 hours ago. I read it and ignored it. I just find it not believable. How can he be a diva when everybody around him loves him. And not rehearse. I don’t know the source was (if there was one. LOL)

Sources? Can’t they think of a new word? Sources is a dead giveaway that the story is ficticious. The “source” didn’t know that they all didn’t rehearse together until the the last couple of days. I guess Kris, Allison, Megan… are lying when they talk about Adam.

Who cares if Adam’s diva? Since when is Diva a bad thing? :king_tb:

When did Adam work with Usher?

Adam *met* him at the studio one night. He wasn’t working with him.

ETA: I never realized that Daughtry doesn’t get airplay on rock radio. That’s interesting … and strange. Was it the AI thing?

Early reports suggest that over 9,000 showed up in Denver. That makes for an estimated total of about 70,000-75,000 that auditioned this season (it could be higher; we’ll have to wait and see what the contestant numbers go to).

Another thing I remembered about this diva who hasn’t bonded with anyone… all the contestants partied in his hotel room one night. Yeah. “Let’s go party in Adam’s room because we don’t want to be around him.”

Fantasia ‘” $100,000-$200,000

??????

ozarka Jul 14th, 2009 at 10:59 am

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That was a cool LINK, froggie! I pulled out the idols from the list. Sorry if I missed anybody’ ¦

VERY interesting. Anyone else tempted to call and find out the price quotes for Adam and Kris? :p

I guess this tells you who’s the most successful Idol. I ranked them according to price:

1) Carrie Underwood ‘” $500,000 Plus
2) Kelly Clarkson ‘” $250,000 Plus
3) Daughtry ‘” $150,000-$200,000
4) Fantasia ‘” $100,000-$200,000
5) Clay Aiken ‘” $100,000-$150,000
6) Jennifer Hudson ‘” $100,000 Plus
7) Jordin Sparks ‘” $75,000-$125,000 David Archuleta ‘” $40,000 Plus
9) David Cook ‘” $30,000-$50,000
10) Kellie Pickler ‘” $30,000-$40,000
11) Taylor Hicks ‘” $15,000-$30,000
12) Josh Gracin ‘” $15,000-$25,000
13) Blake Lewis ‘” $10,000 Plus
14) Bo Bice ‘” $10,000 Plus

Adam Lambert ‘” Call for Price
Kris Allen ‘” Call for Price

Early reports suggest that over 9,000 showed up in Denver. That makes for an estimated total of about 70,000-75,000 that auditioned this season (it could be higher; we’ll have to wait and see what the contestant numbers go to).

…and don’t believe for a minute the best of the best make it. If you happen to be in the right line at the right time, yes. Also, if you have a good backstory (I’m serious). Some actually do make it because of their talent.

Another thing I remembered about this diva who hasn’t bonded with anyone’ ¦

I’ll just leave you with this happiness before I go to work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHJYxGfpWA

Brooke’s album is out today… and Itunes has the video of Radio Radio for free! If anyone wants to grab it…

I was looking at a “Where Are They Now” article from a college theater program that I have reviewed for years and reflecting on a) the fact that the biggest successes among all those acting students are not at all who I would’ve guessed when I was reviewing their college productions and b) when you are an actor, getting steady gigs means you ARE a success. Getting to be a blazing STAR!!! of stage and screen would be lovely, I’m sure, but far more of these acting school grads than I expected are actually working at regional theaters and off-off-Broadway or in academia, and that’s pretty amazing.

It made me wonder about all our of expectations for Idol alums. I guess the first year we might’ve expected the top few to be shining stars as recording artists, and anything less (Justin Guarini) was considered a huge failure. But there are enough of them now that we’re going to have to come to grips with the fact that darn few will turn out to be Kelly or Carrie or Daughtry level stars (and not necessarily from their records, if you throw J-Hud and her Oscar on top of the A-list pile). The lesser lights who’ve moved into TV, like Justin and Kimberly Caldwell, and the ones who’ve done well in stage shows, like Fantasia and Constantine, or the ones with good singles or international success, like Jordin and Elliott, are certainly paying the bills and creating successful entertainment careers for themselves, whether or not a string of Grammys and multi-platinum albums are in the cards for them post-Idol.

Just a way of saying we might want to give them all some breathing room before we start the guessing game about who is and who isn’t the hottest stah evah among the recent grads of the Idol school. David Cook may end up touring colleges, never having a hit single, and loving the heck out of his life for the next fifteen or twenty years. Adam may become the toast of Japan and never hit platinum in the US, but love doing the music he wants without having to be all middle America and vanilla. Kris may get to make the album he wants, open for the Fray or One Republic, and become the biggest recording star in Arkansas. Allison may achieve enough success to never have to sing at a furniture store again.

I do not believe for a minute that anyone still pays six figures for a Clay Aiken appearance. Maybe a few years ago, but not now.

I’ll just leave you with this happiness before I go to work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHJYxGfpWA

How did Adam do that?

The thing that makes that story so laughable is that Adam would never sacrifice the integrity of his own performance by not rehearsing. He could so easily be a diva but that never comes across in any of his behind the scene footage or interviews – so whatever.

LisaE- “I never realized that Daughtry doesn’t get airplay on rock radio. That’s interesting ‘ ¦ and strange. Was it the AI thing?”

I have noticed that on the dedicated ROCK stations on Sirius they don’t play him. He is on the POP stations and Top 40 stations only. I guess you have to get the music establishment to give you Rocker Cred before you can get airplay.

Fantasia ‘” $100,000-$200,000

??????

I think there’s one zero too many in each of those numbers.

American Idols’ Kris Allen & Adam Lambert to get new cars

Ford Fusion for Kris, Mustang Convertible for Adam!

American Idol winner Kris Allen and runner-up Adam Lambert are getting new cars. Every year Ford awards cars to the top two Idol finalists.

OnTheRedCarpet.com has learned that Kris and Adam will get their keys on Thursday at a car dealership in North Hills, California.

Kris will be driving away in a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. Adam will be right behind him in a 2010 Ford Mustang convertible.

They won’t have too much time to cruise around Los Angeles. Their first stop will be at the final rehearsal for the American Idols Live! tour that kicks off at Staples Center later that night.

Link to Kris and Adam get cars article

Why has this purported ‘story’  by The National Enquirer not yet appeared online? I just checked there and it’s nowhere to be found on the website. All we’ve seen is this second-hand report by The National Ledger, whatever the hell that is!

Nat Enquirer only puts their stories online after the “magazine” has been sold. But National Ledger tends to pick out some of the more silly celebrity stuff and makes a joke of it.

I’ve never gotten any diva vibe from Adam. In fact, I’ve long thought that he (and Kris) came into AI with the smartest plans on how to use the show to best help their chances of achieving their goal of getting a record deal. And they are willing to work extremely hard to reach that goal. Many of the others seemed to flounder a bit with the judges’ advice and whatnot, and some of them seemed focused on the short term goal (winning AI) more than the longer term one (a career in the music business). Not Adam. He said that AI was a platform to bigger and better things.

As for him not showing up at rehearsals, this “source” was likely to referring to the tour rehearsals in L.A. As far as I can tell, everyone had different schedules, so only occasionally were all 10 of the finalists even there at the same time. Adam, Allison and Kris were probably not around as much, since they are all working on their albums. That doesn’t mean any of them weren’t taking the rehearsals seriously. And while I could see some of the others who don’t have record deals getting a little tired of hearing about who Adam (or Kris or Allison) was working with , I don’t think that equates to Adam being a diva.

From all accounts, Adam is the one the others go to for advice or to talk about their problems. And Megan said they all hung out together in his room after the Portland tour opener. That doesn’t suggest that he isn’t “bonding” with any of them. These 10 people seem extrememly close. Some of them are better friends than other, but I don’t sense any real disconnect or discomfort among any of them — which is nice. I’m sure Adam will try to take some opportunities to hang out with non-AI people and go out to a club or whatever in his free time, but I don’t think he’s going to lose sight of his priorities or start acting out. I think he’s smart enough to know that it won’t help his career to get tagged as a diva who has a swelled head who no one wants to work with.

There are many ways to rate the relative successes of the Idols. Some Idols charge less because they are at the beginning of their careers and wish to reach more people.

Here is another list for comparing the success of various Idols. It is from the Forbes List of Top Earning American Idols. Notice that last year’s Idols are towards the bottom – they have not yet had a full year for earnings from touring, merchandise and song-writing residuals.

1. Carrie Underwood – $14 million
2. Jennifer Hudson – $5 million
3. Kelly Clarkson – $4.2 million
4. Jordin Sparks – $3.1 million
5. Kellie Pickler – $2.3 million
6. Clay Aiken – $2.2 million
7. Chris Daughtry – $2 million
8. David Cook – $2 million
9. David Archuleta – $1.3 million
10. Taylor Hicks – $300,000

Forbes List of Top Earning Idols

They are making a very decent living.

Clay Aiken ‘” $100,000-$150,000

This is a joke right? If it’s true, no wonder he’s not working. Somebody needs to get a grip on reality.

…and WTH was Adam doing out wandering around on his own without security? What was AI doing letting him wander around without security? You’re not a nobody any more Mr Lambert!

Fantasia ‘” $100,000-$200,000

I believe that. She can sell out a concert.

Carrie made $14 in one year? Simon was right when he predicted Carrie would be bigger than Kelly.

ETA: I never realized that Daughtry doesn’t get airplay on rock radio. That’s interesting ‘ ¦ and strange. Was it the AI thing?

It’s Not Over and What I Want both went Top 10 at the Rock charts. Crashed went #24. Not sure why the Brian Mansfield didn’t know that especially since he’s supposed to the Idol numbers guru of USA Today.No Surprise was never sent to Rock radio (and I’m not surprised with this) so obviously it can’t chart.

Thanks girlygirl, that is nice of you to post that considering you are a Kris fan.

1. Carrie Underwood – $14 million

Hopefully when I come back through life again God will give me blond hair, a skinny body, a very good voice, and no personality. Then, I too, can be a rich and famous country music Artist.

Hopefully when I come back through life again God will give me blond hair, a skinny body, a very good voice, and no personality. Then, I too, can be a rich and famous country music Artist.

You can either be a really good singer and no personality (Carrie), or a not so good singer with a personality (Kellie P).

Unsubstantiated sources means the quotes are made up. Bad journalists do that when they can’t get the story their bosses want them to get. Adam is not a diva as we all know, but a Glittery Alien from the Planet Fierce. Why can’t those tabloids get it right?

You can either be a really good singer and no personality (Carrie), or a not so good singer with a personality (Kellie P).

Man…if I had both I’d have made close to $17 million. And that would definitely pay for the boob job!

I thought they both were given the hybrid cars…

I thought they both were given the hybrid cars’ ¦

I think they were given a Ford car of their choice. And their choices definitely echo their personalities. Touche’.

I thought they both were given the hybrid cars’ ¦

I think they were given a Ford car of their choice. And their choices definitely echo their personalities. Touche’.

I agree Adam is Mustang guy, but that’s not what they were given at the finale. They were both given Hybrids, but I guess that was just for show.

Last year both the Davids were given Ford Hybrids too. I wonder if either of them traded theirs in for something else as well.

Last year both the Davids were given Ford Hybrids too. I wonder if either of them traded theirs in for something else as well.

I think they were given a Ford car of their choice. And their choices definitely echo their personalities. Touche’.

Totally. LOL. Flashy V8 muscle-car vs the hybrid family-mobile. Hee. Although, V8′s, not good for the LA pollution levels. LOL. Pollution-Gate. Speeding-gate! LOL. Long summer.

I hate that I actually know this — both Davids got Ford Fusion Hybreds.

But I have to admit, Adam is more of a mustang convertable guy! I wonder what color they picked. I’m picturing Adam with black or silver, but Kris with plaid!

Kirsten….

Buying a car in California is a real trip….you have to have special smog control gizmos on your car no matter the make and model. And considering the amount of limos rolling around LA one little Mustang ain’t going to add a whole lot of puff-puff. Besides a hybrid is using elec. power which is often generated by coal which is a pollutant when burning so what’s the diff?

Green is fine until you really start to look at it and understand that it isn’t really environmentally as friendly as peeps think it is.

I remember that Taylor and Kat got mustangs – Taylor’s was red and Kat’s was black or vice versa.

Washington Post review is very funny. And true.

Indeed. Daughtry isn’t rock (neither are Nickelback or Lighthouse)–they’re just a rockier version of elevator music. IMO of course, but whereas with most music I don’t like I can see why others do, I will never for the life of me understand why people like this bland if moderately catchy noise.

Indeed Idol Diva insists on gas guzzling ‘Stang………I don’t blame him though, ‘stangs are cool, hybrids are like Ed Begley, not cool though yes I know tons of hot celebs also have hybrids, the same celebs that like also have an SUV and Porsche in their multi car garage…..

Regarding Daughtry, I like the term corporate grunge used to describe Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman yes why are Canadians so good at corporate grunge and frankly I blame Nirvana – someone got in trouble for blaming Nirvana recently for making music dull – I remember now it was my favourite controversial lead singer Brandon Flowers of the Killers. I don’t blame Nirvana per se, Kurt Cobain and David Grohl did not say hey everyone, go out and be poor imitiations of us……..

The younger men of this generation were raised on Nirvana clones in the 1990′s that the record execs jumped on, that morphed into this corporate grunge rock and were not exposed to the variety of music and the true legends of rock – you can knock the 1980s all you want but the diversity in music was major – we had punk, we had post punk, we had new wave, we have pop, we had ska, we had reggae, we had disco, we have fusions of all of the above, we had art rock, we had arena rock, we had hair band rock, we had heavy metal, we had the beginnings of hip hop and rap and techno and electronica – it was all over the map.

What I do not understand is how it is that Nickelback and Theory of a Deadman ends up on the US rock charts and rock radio formats along with AC and Hot AC but the same rock stations scoff at the Idol rockers – hypocrisy really.

You can understand why so many younger kids turn to hip hop and rap – rock as we know is in decline – I remember seeing some Billboard stats and rock was still a big share of the market in the 1990s but now what is called urban music has caught up with rock and likely has surpassed it – when you see the sales of BEP and Flo Rida one can see why but then again look at AC/DC sales, they might beat everyone in the one year period since their release date last fall. But that could be folks saying we long for classic rock.

Last year both the Davids were given Ford Hybrids too. I wonder if either of them traded theirs in for something else as well.

I think Cook gave his Ford to his father and bought a lexus…

I love when Idols are divas. Especially when they aren’t!

Speaking of bubble tweets, Michael Sarver was on Twitter for about four hours last night! It was hysterical. He gave shout outs to just about everyone (including me *and* the Boston Red Sox!). He now knows how to do bubble tweets, and tweeted two of them. I am gaining new-found respect for the Idols as we get to know them (or just see them; you know what I mean) as real people and not just performers on a reality TV show. My pre-conceived notions are being ripped apart bit by bit, which is fine with me. I can go to the concert more objectively now.

I thought both Idols got Ford Fusions. In the Cook/Allen/Lambert spot, when they both “received” their cars, Adam mentioned (rehearsed a brief reaction to) about how excited he was to get a fusion due to its decreased toll on the environment. And now he’s riding a convertible instead! *tsk tsk*

Kris opted for the Ford Fusion:

The 2010 Ford Fusion, 4 cylinders, 2.5L, 6 speed, 175 hp along with 172 lb-ft of torque. 23/34MPG.

It’s a nice practical car.

The Mustang, at least the V8, is a pretty hot car. What Edmunds.com says:

The 2010 Ford Mustang is a dog and pony show — the base V6 is crude and unpleasant, but the V8-powered GT is a muscular sports coupe to be reckoned with.

I can’t see Adam with anything crude and unpleasant. So I hope that they give Adam the 2010 Ford Shelby GT500.

The 2010 Mustang V8 has 315 hp, 325 lb-ft of torque (335 lb-ft on premium fuel, which is not required). 0-60-mph sprint in the low 5-second range came in at 15/22 MPG.

And I think there is a glitter and spikes trim package option!

I do not believe for a minute that anyone still pays six figures for a Clay Aiken appearance. Maybe a few years ago, but not now.

Seriously LOL Just because an artist sets a price doesn’t mean they’re going to get it. I’m sure rates vary because often if a venue or whoever doesn’t want to pay a price too high they’ll negotiate a lower price. I can’t imagine Clay or Fantasia commanding that kind of price now. MAYBE Fantasia but not Clay.

This article about the San Diego fair says Kelly got paid $175,00 and the both David’s got paid $100,000.

ETA:

I think Cook gave his Ford to his father and bought a lexus’ ¦

Close, his brother Andrew got the Ford He did buy a Lexus SUV though.

Muse is going to debut their new single at the VMA and Rolling Stone is giving Adam some credit for MTV booking Muse. They sure love Adam!

VMAs Return To New York With Russell Brand, Taylor Swift, Muse

Ok have to say the Herald Daily article made me LOL. And so it begins, not as blunt as I am sure it will get, but in that read between the lines sort of way.

The hybrid

The Mustang

Some detail

I wonder which costs more and does the person with the cheaper car get gas credits for the difference? Bwah.

I saw a purple metallic Mustang just the other day – I was so green with envy.

Buying a car in California is a real trip’ ¦.you have to have special smog control gizmos on your car no matter the make and model. And considering the amount of limos rolling around LA one little Mustang ain’t going to add a whole lot of puff-puff.

I was joking. Indications of this were the LOL and the “this will start gates”. I was trying to nip it in the old bud.

Besides a hybrid is using elec. power which is often generated by coal which is a pollutant when burning so what’s the diff?

This could not be more wrong. Hybrids recapture energy from the car. It’s really very cool. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that you plug in.

Every gasoline powered car you drive generates electricity. They would quickly cease to work if they did not. The spark plugs ignite the fuel in the cylinders (V8′s have 8 cylinders) in order to drive the engine. The spark plugs use electricity. If you recall from your basic elementry school science fair, you can generate electricity by spinning magnets (to keep it very simple) and that’s what pretty much all your power plants do (hydro-electric damns use water to drive turbines, windmills use wind to turn the turbines, coal/nuclear plants generate steam to turn the generators and cars burn fuel). While the engine is running, it generates enough electricity to run the spark plugs, the lights and radio. Extra energy is stored in the battery so that when you try to get the car to start, there is enough juice to get the spark plugs to start the process. That’s why you have to run a car for about a half hour after you drain the battery and you had to get a jump start.

But, non-hybrid cars don’t utilize the full electric generation potential of their engines. Hybrid cars pack on extra batteries to store that energy and capture it from the engine, from the brake system, wherever. Then, when the fuel engine wouldn’t be working at it’s best potential (you typically pollute the most when idling), it switches to the electric motor. Plus, they can use the electric motor to boost the fuel engine so you can reach higher speeds with smaller engines (properly designed smaller engines (e.g. V4s) will pollute less).

So, no coal is burned during the operation of hybrid cars and that makes a HUGE diff.

Sorry, I can’t let mis-information like that spread.

Green is fine until you really start to look at it and understand that it isn’t really environmentally as friendly as peeps think it is.

This can be true. Up where I live in the hydro-powered frozen north, the introduction of compact flourescent bulbs have not helped the environment. One of the by-products of incadescent light is heat. That’s a bad thing in hot climates which causes air conditioners to run over-time, but in the winter in the north, it helped to keep heating costs low. Now people are burning more fuel in their home furnaces which are far less efficient and more polluting than power plants and off the chart more polluting when compared to hydro.

You should listen to my husband rant about people replacing their perfectly good christmas lights with LEDs. If the lights are shot or you are buying new ones, then get the LEDs. If not, you’ll probably never make back the energy wasted in the production of those lights. And they are likely produced in China which burns the dirtiest coal in the world in very inefficient/non-scrubbing power plants. Very silly really.

The amount that people make per year is a little deceptive too because it all depends on what year they’re touring and when there albums come out. Carrie made that much this past year because she had her own solo tour.

I’m surprised that Daughtry is doing a free concert, in a 2,000 seat venue. Is this to get radio airplay? I don’t follow Daughtry but though that I read his tour is quite successful. Can someone fill me in.

Just handing envelops of cash to radio stations for airplay is illegal, so this promotional concert tour is a time-honored way of laundering payola money. Record company wants airplay. Record company sends band on tour for free doing promo gigs for radio stations. Radio stations get 2000 tickets to turn into dollars by giving them away to advertisers, doing giveaway sponsored by a local advertiser, etc.

Ultimatetly the band pays because the tour expenses are “taken off the top” of any royalties owed to the band, and that’s not even factoring that they are touring all summer for free.

But, if you want top-40 airplay, you have to buy it. It’s a tricky game for the artist because, between the cost of the videos and the cost of buying radio play, they can end up in the hole to the record company unless the album is a huge smash. DAUGHTRY will lose his shirt on this album if it doesn’t sell a million or two million copies. You really have to think through the math and decide if the videos and the payola is worth it.

This is part of the reason that so many bands with a touring draw are walking away from record deals and going independent. They can make more money without the promotion, selling far fewer copies, but putting a much higher percentage of the cash in their pockets. This is all contributing to the death of the record lables. Look around. The interesting stuff in music right now is happening that the Bonnaroo Festival and similar events in the US and England,

Muse is going to debut their new single at the VMA and Rolling Stone is giving Adam some credit for MTV booking Muse. They sure love Adam!

LOL RS is just becoming a joke. I think Stephen Meyer has something (a lot) to do with it though…

Close, his brother Andrew got the Ford He did buy a Lexus SUV though.

Wasn’t sure about the Lexus SUV, but I’m sure he said he gave it to his dad though. Maybe ended up on Andrew…

Ok have to say the Herald Daily article made me LOL. And so it begins, not as blunt as I am sure it will get, but in that read between the lines sort of way.

Danny gets almost as much attention as Kris? Not in the last two months. Danny doesn’t get too many “big interviews”, and this one isn’t doing him any favors. Danny, listen to Kris and Adam and learn from them.

Muse is going to debut their new single at the VMA and Rolling Stone is giving Adam some credit for MTV booking Muse.

While I’d love to give Adam some credit here, I think this booking is more due to the fact that “Supermassive Black Hole” appeared on the Twilight soundtrack. But yay for Muse … they tapped into two American juggernauts this year without even trying. Good for them. Love them.

Well I was going to say that Muse might not be amused to think that Adam Lambert was the primary reason for being invited to the MTV VMAs.

I thought they would go with Russell Brand again – a British comedian – he is rather like Sacha Baron Cohen, you either love him or hate him and not much in between – I think he is hysterically funny but he is actually more amusing in interviews, when he does Conan, Letterman, Late Show etc. He comes off more erudite and witty in one on one exchanges than his stand up schtick. However those video bits with Britney Spears last year were hilarious.

Sorry, I can’t let mis-information like that spread.

Thank you for catching my dumb-ass remark and correcting it. I’m an old lady and sometimes I type faster than I think. I enjoyed and was very educated by your explanation. Kudos…Kirsten.

I also remember when everyone in Utah switched to coal and wood burning fireplaces to save energy (natural gas) during the late 70′s and early 80′s. Well, as you can imagine the air in Salt Lake turned black as night and one year they had 4 months without the sun breaking through the inversion. Needless to say, somebody finally figured out that even though wood was a good source of fuel…it wasn’t very clean and because of the dark skies everyone used more electricity and on and on and on. Now, during inversions if you have a wood burning stove you can’t use it (by law). So much for saving energy.

You can understand why so many younger kids turn to hip hop and rap – rock as we know is in decline – I remember seeing some Billboard stats and rock was still a big share of the market in the 1990s but now what is called urban music has caught up with rock and likely has surpassed it – when you see the sales of BEP and Flo Rida one can see why but then again look at AC/DC sales, they might beat everyone in the one year period since their release date last fall. But that could be folks saying we long for classic rock.

The real market for rock music (as opposed to Nickleback and DAUGHTRY) is largely happening outside the traditional music industry. It’s almost a mini-replay of the late 60′s when the interesting music was happening at places like the Monterrey Pop Festival and record execs started sniffing around to get on board. The interesting stuff these days is happening on the various stages at Bonnarroo and other festivals with record company execs largely out of the loop. There’s some real honest to god rock n’ roll music being made out there.

Kristen, great answer. Just to add:

1. Pollution – emissions are based on the full mix, engine design/efficiency and how much you drive. My car, a California “born” Lexus V8 has such low emissions that when I had to get it tested in Ohio, they did 3 retests because they thought the equipment was broken. They’re were any measurable levels.

2. Gas usage is based on MPG, type of driving and how much you drive. I know when I lived on the Westside of LA, I really drove very little. Everthing I needed was really close by — and I had my groceries, dry cleaning and most everying else delivered. Now I live in the South and I drive about 10 X as much.

So on the great Mustang vs. Fusion debate who knows. LOL!

In any case, I think the Fusion suits Kris and Katie, and the Mustang suits Adam.

lavender1960
Jul 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Well I was going to say that Muse might not be amused to think that Adam Lambert was the primary reason for being invited to the MTV VMAs.

I know, hope they don’t get all Gene Simmons on Adam because of media assumptions.

I love Muse, they are so different and apparently RS loves Adam Lambert, but whatever the reason they are getting more attention, it’s all good.

Everything you said hwc last post, very interesting and so true about the shift towards indie.

The other reality is that many major labels do not deliver on the promotion end anyway so you could do your own promotions for less money and often more creatively – see Radiohead and their infamous “pay us what you think we are worth” gimmick a few years ago along with getting that bigger cut of the royalties.

The heavy metal scene has always been in its own independent universe so to speak, but could one say the real rock scene is now the new alternative music scene, ironically.

I have tickets to Virginfest in Maryland this year and I have to say I do not recognize most of the names of the acts, my main draw is Franz Ferdinand – Blink 182 and Weezer are headlining. It is a very rockcentric roster compared to last year but that is fine by me. I love hearing new bands and discovering gems.

LOL on RS. They are in love with Adam. They have a whole Adam Lambert section; not sure if they have one for Kris. (Just saying! ) I believe on twitter they have asked for suggestions as to who we would like to have as presenters. Guess who some of us have picked? I don’t know if they were really asking or if someone suggested they should ask…but Kradison fans should get on twitter and offer your Idol (or all three of them).

I know, I spend entirely too much time on twitter at night.

I really did believe Adam was getting a Ford Fusion. I think they are pretty cool, personally. And they *are* environmentally friendly.

Makes me a little nervous for Adam, Kris, and Allison – how much will they have to, or be willing to, sacrifice personal style, edge, and innovation, in order to play it safe and have the highest chance of scoring a smash hit album? I’m afraid Kris and Allison may be taken more down the path of ‘conformity’ , molded into a certain, pre-approved niche of music, but that could also be good for them, in the sense of doing well commercially.

Well, we only need to be nervous to the extent that we think they have to be big poppish stars, selling platinum, getting Top 40 play and all that.

Just with the boost Idol gives them here, it looks to me like they’re all talented, smart, and hardworking enough to get nice careers in the music business creating music that’s right in their wheelhouses. They’ll have much better, more fun careers than they have right now, and, frankly, I think in the long run that ought to be enough for them and suspect that it will be. With the platform they’ve had, they all should be able to sustain some kind of concert following, at least, and that’ll pay your bills and let you do what you want.

And depending on what kind of music is hot over the next few years, any one of them might be able to pull a Daughtry, even without selling their own visions out too much. You never quite know what’s going to become fashionable enough to hit it big in the next little while.

And if they prefer to sell something out to try to go multiplatinum, they all probably have a shot at that, too, although I don’t know how much of a shot. But I wouldn’t recommend it. Seems to me that they’d be smart to resist too much selling out, since I think they’ve been given enough of a platform so that they can carve out perfectly okay careers for themselves by just mainly being who they are. Even for people dreaming of being popstars, that probably makes you more satisfied in the end.

VERY interesting. Anyone else tempted to call and find out the price quotes for Adam and Kris? :p

LOL! I’ll make that call: “I’d like to request Mr. Lambert’s services for a private event.” :smoke_tb:

Well, as you can imagine the air in Salt Lake turned black as night and one year they had 4 months without the sun breaking through the inversion. Needless to say, somebody finally figured out that even though wood was a good source of fuel

Ugh! That must have been a nightmare. And so bad for the lungs. Wood burning is so polluting. Many North American cities are starting to make it illegal to put in wood burning fireplaces into new construction (although, I do admit I like a good crackling fire once in a while).

I once watched some show about some British Environmental movement where they go completely off the grid (grow their own vegetable using night soil as the fertilizer) and have switched to burning wood for heat/cooking and candles for light. Ugh! Not helping.

1. Pollution – emissions are based on the full mix, engine design/efficiency and how much you drive.

Totally. Fewer cylinders does not automatically equal less polution. Those old Eastern European cars used to have like 3 cylinders and could pollute like anything. California does do an amazing job on pollution control. That state gets slammed a lot, but they have set the trend for making the auto industry develop a lot of anti-pollution technology that has filtered across the United States and to the rest of the world (although, Japan is driving the hybrid boom probably because fuel is so expensive there).

Adam = Diva probably, being rude and and missing practice..probably NOT!!..

What gets me is this comment..”Had he beaten out Allen to reach the finals, Gokey thinks he might well be wearing the “Idol” crown”…I’m sorry I don’t agree with this at all, and I think it’s funny he just assumes he would beat Adam….
Well I say Thank God Kris won …I could not have seen Gokey as an American Idol. Sorry!! Wait no I’m Not!

I noted The Killers are also Call for Price – is that code for if you need to ask you cannot afford us?

Some of us seriously looked into getting a band for a private party – the quoted fee without negotiation was $350,000 but my friend let them think it was for her employer so they may have figured deep pockets, bwah, so go with the high end, but on top of that, you had to cover first class airfare from whatever place the band or artist has to fly from to get to your city, cost of hauling the gear too, very costly if it does not coordinate well with any ongoing tour, then first class hotel accommodations in a suitable hotel with a floor with separate security and a private bar, then there was a letter of credit, insurance, municipal permits etc.

What you mean the band cannot just sleep over at our house and we can have a big BBQ bash?

The hybrid

The Mustang

Some detail

LOL! Those pics just say it all in terms of personality Look at those cars, and you can guess which one is for Kris and which one is for Adam

Though, I have to say, if it was reversed, that would just be awesome (seeing Kris in the mustang!)

Well I say Thank God Kris won ‘ ¦I could not have seen Gokey as an American Idol. Sorry!! Wait no I’m Not!

Danny as the American Idol – oh my, there would be no living with him ;p

From all accounts, Adam is the one the others go to for advice or to talk about their problems. And Megan said they all hung out together in his room after the Portland tour opener. That doesn’t suggest that he isn’t ‘bonding’  with any of them.

Good point. This is the real clue. Because it’s so likely that everybody goes to hang out after the show in the room of the person they hate because he’s a big diva. Not. For one thing, the big diva wouldn’t even *want* them all hanging out in his/her room and would probably throw them out!

What gets me is this comment..’ Had he beaten out Allen to reach the finals, Gokey thinks he might well be wearing the ‘Idol’  crown’ ’ ¦

Donny would have beaten Adam in the finals. Sarver would have beaten him once you added up the “anybody but the gay guy” voters (including those who said, “he’s too theatrical”).

Adam never had a chance once all the votes against him consolidated behind the last challenger standing. The contest was always the Adam voters against the “not Adam” voters. This was evident from the Top 5 night when Adam was in the bottom two despite one of the great all-time Idol performances of “Feelin’ Good”. The final would have probably been Donny versus the kid who won if hadn’t been for “the scream”.

Thanks hwc for the Daughtry answer. I really didn’t realize that he didn’t get any radio airplay since I’m not a fan and don’t list to earth-based radio. Too bad they have to go this route.

The real market for rock music (as opposed to Nickleback and DAUGHTRY) is largely happening outside the traditional music industry. It’s almost a mini-replay of the late 60′s when the interesting music was happening at places like the Monterrey Pop Festival and record execs started sniffing around to get on board. The interesting stuff these days is happening on the various stages at Bonnarroo and other festivals with record company execs largely out of the loop. There’s some real honest to god rock n’ roll music being made out there.

Yes, I agree it’s like the late 60′s in a few ways. There is a ton of great rock music out there and a lot of really interesting creative music being produced. I personally follow a number of post-punk, techno/electronica and Memphis-Muscle Shoals-Nashville area indie rock bands. (Yes, there is more in Nashville than Christian and Country.) And I get easily bored so I listen to a really wide range of music.

But there are 3 big differences now.

1. Channel Disruption: In the 60′s, there wasn’t any way for groups to get distribution without working with a record label or distributor. Even the Grateful Dead had a relationship with Warners.

Now all 4 majors left: Sony BMG, Warner, EMI, and the Universal Music Group, are struggling to find a new revenue model. At hte same time, the need for the majors’ distribution capablies is diminishing with the collaspe of the retail channel, particurly in the US, and the availability of digital distribution.

2. Concerts are Expensive: In the 60′s and 70′s, you could see major acts for $5 to $15. you could take a risk and go see someone who you didn’t really love already. It was affordable. And some festivals were free. Now it costs $200+ for two people to see a major concert and park a car.

3. Universe of Choice: With the vast amount of music distributed online, you can listen to so much more music than ever before. I can literally choose to hear 1 of 100′s of thousands of songs, for free, with the click of a mouse.

Much like Season 7 peeps called Michael Johns “Papa Johns”, part of it is being the oldest of the gang and seriously I do not believe the diva crap – sounds like he was Papa Lambert or Uncle Adam because he has the most experience in the business AND he was clearly happy to share that, it is no wonder everyone gravitated towards him. If he is a perfectionist about his stagecraft, nothing at all wrong with that.

@Herald Extra
“@Gokey – So if I wouldn’t have gotten voted off, and he got voted off, I think our fan bases probably would have voted for each other…”

First of all, do these newspapers run the same stories more than once? That article says it was posted on July 13, but I read it online (somewhere) at least 2-3 weeks ago. *Confused.*

Secondly, that boy is in dire need of some Remedial English classes. He is incapable of stringing even four words together correctly, grammatically speaking. What is wrong with the American academic curriculum??

lavendar1960
What you mean the band cannot just sleep over at our house and we can have a big BBQ bash?

Wait, you mean this ISN’T in the realm of possibility?! LOL. But seriously though – wouldn’t that be awesome?! [note: I don't even know what band you're talking about - I'm reading comments from the bottom up. lol]

The final would have probably been Donny versus the kid who won if hadn’t been for ‘the scream’ .

lol yes. “the scream” definitely hurt Danny. Although, I think the final would have been Danny vs Adam without Danny’s rock week perfromance. I do think Danny would have beat Adam in the finale, although I think Adam will outdo Danny in the real world either way.

I agree with you though that Adam was never going to win AI. But I do think he has great potential to do great things in the music industry due to the exposure if he and RCA play their cards right. I’m not one that takes the viewpoint that just because Adam doesn’t fit into a specific “box” musically like Kris does, means that Adam won’t sell as many records.

I can’t see Adam with anything crude and unpleasant. So I hope that they give Adam the 2010 Ford Shelby GT500.

While the Shelby GT500 is undeniably awesome, gut instinct (and a bit of logic) tells me that they probably wouldn’t give the winner a car that retails for around $27K and the runner up one that is over $50K.

I agree with you though that Adam was never going to win AI. But I do think he has great potential to do great things in the music industry due to the exposure if he and RCA play their cards right. I’m not one that takes the viewpoint that just because Adam doesn’t fit into a specific ‘box’  musically like Kris does, means that Adam won’t sell as many records.

i have to agree and disagree. agree with your point that Adam will definitely sell a lot of records and has great potential but for some reason, i think he fits more with whats being played in Top40 which i think of as the “music box” everyone refers to. i dont know much about music style but i see his style as being very similar to lady gagas, or katy perrys or even britney spears (u know the whole dance pop thing) and they are usually dominating the charts right now.

What you mean the band cannot just sleep over at our house and we can have a big BBQ bash?

off topic but just wanted to comment, i remember sometime last yr i think, one of my all time fave band, onerepublic, actually did this charity thing where you have to buy the band but they come out and hang out with you for the day, playing for u and ur family, watching seinfield, bbqing, u know basically chillaxing with you.

lol yes. ‘the scream’  definitely hurt Danny. Although, I think the final would have been Danny vs Adam without Danny’s rock week perfromance. I do think Danny would have beat Adam in the finale, although I think Adam will outdo Danny in the real world either way.

IDK – I honestly think if it had come down to Adam vs. Danny, that Adam would have won. I actually place a lot of significance on the “who do people tend to vote for once their fav gets eliminated” effect on voting.

I think a lot of Danny fans preferred Kris over Adam (even if they weren’t overtly Kris fans, his style was just more palatable). However, there was a lot of mutual affection among the Adam/Kris supporters, and I think if Kris had been kicked off at Top 3, his votes would have tended to go more to Adam, thus leading to Adam actually winning.

Plus, in terms of fan reactions, Danny had a very high “negative”, as well as a “still strong” positive at this point – that made him as, if not more, polarizing than Adam by the end. I know you have to take online polls et al with a grain of salt, but that was certainly the consensus from a lot of them toward the end. Significant among the causes for the high negative was a sense that he too was being over-pimped by the judges, but that Adam had at least earned it with more solid performances. JMO, YMMV, etc. etc.

gut instinct (and a bit of logic) tells me that they probably wouldn’t give the winner a car that retails for around $27K and the runner up one that is over $50K.

Maybe Adam paid the difference with his itune sales.

Herald Extra!: News Alert! If Danny had beaten Kris and then beaten Adam, he’d have won! If wishes were horses, we’d all of us ride!

Danny just posted this on Twitter regarding Adam’s Twitter account:

Hey tweeters Adam asked me 2notify u all that his Twitter account as been hacked and he’s working on regaining control of it.Let peeps know

Just wanted to pop in on the hybrid talk. I actually bought my Ford Escape Hybrid at the same dealership that Kris and Adam are getting their cars from. Galpin Ford is a massive dealership and also have a bit of fame with their Galpin Auto Shop which does the MTV show “PIMP MY RIDE!”

http://www.galpinautosports.com

So Adam and Kris can pimp their cars out if they so desire.

I don’t think Adam will be driving the way I do, so he is probably good with a mustang. Since he doesn’t have a day job that he will have to commute to, he probably will keep the mileage down. I spend nearly two hours a day on the road, and a good portion of that is on the 5 freeway. I average about 32 miles per gallon, which is pretty good.

IDK – I honestly think if it had come down to Adam vs. Danny, that Adam would have won. I actually place a lot of significance on the ‘who do people tend to vote for once their fav gets eliminated’  effect on voting.

I think a lot of Danny fans preferred Kris over Adam (even if they weren’t overtly Kris fans, his style was just more palatable). However, there was a lot of mutual affection among the Adam/Kris supporters, and I think if Kris had been kicked off at Top 3, his votes would have tended to go more to Adam, thus leading to Adam actually winning.

I agree with everything Mary102 said. I just have to add I don’t think Danny’s scream cost him the win; more like Kris’s Heartless propelled his win.

But I do have to say that this article is old because it was on a different website a few weeks ago.. i remember that it was posted on Mj’s a few weeks ago and someone mentioned then that it was even older than that?

Maybe Adam paid the difference with his itune sales.

That’s entirely possible, but then it really wouldn’t be Ford/AI giving the car to him.

Plus, in terms of fan reactions, Danny had a very high ‘negative’ , as well as a ‘still strong’  positive at this point – that made him as, if not more, polarizing than Adam by the end. I know you have to take online polls et al with a grain of salt, but that was certainly the consensus from a lot of them toward the end. Significant among the causes for the high negative was a sense that he too was being over-pimped by the judges, but that Adam had at least earned it with more solid performances. JMO, YMMV, etc. etc.

THIS. Season 8 was a rare year in which I wasn’t terribly invested in who won by the time it got down to the final 2. Although I’m about 100 times more likely to buy a Kris CD than an Adam one (simply based on music style preference), I really didn’t care which one of them won. They both were deserving in their own ways, IMO. Both talented, both personable. I didn’t bother to vote for either one (this after a four-hour marathon for Cook last year due to my outrage over the finale).

Conversely, had Adam and Danny (or Kris and Danny) been the final two, I would have been much more motivated to vote for the ‘not Danny’ party. I never thought he lived up the hype, whereas Adam, even if his music isn’t to my taste, nearly always brought it (a rare exception being his rendition of ‘One,’ which, as a rabid U2 fan, left me cold). In particular, Danny’s performance on Rock Week was such a debacle that I think there was a decent faction of people who felt he didn’t deserve to make the top 3, let alone top 2.

Of course, we’ll never know. It can be hashed out ad nauseam, ad infinitum on the Internets, but we’ll never know.

I’m just wondering, since this is the first year I’ve really followed all the post-season going-on: Has any other third- or fourth-place contestant ever given interviews where he/she says he/she could/should/would have won if X, Y, or Z had or hadn’t happened? It just seems like very bad form to me.

Adam and Danny will be doing a bubbletweet soon, to address the hackers

Adam and Danny will be doing a bubbletweet soon, to address the hackers

For those of us dinosaurs who have not joined the Twitter revolution, what the bloody heck is a ‘bubbletweet’? LOL

Has any other third- or fourth-place contestant ever given interviews where he/she says he/she could/should/would have won if X, Y, or Z had or hadn’t happened? It just seems like very bad form to me.

Not that I can personally recall, and I agree, bad form!

i think, once again, danny is out of touch w. reality….kris fans would have supported, for the most part, adam…obviouslly i cannot speak for an entire fan group, but from what ive seen on kris’ personal fan webpage (created by his friend), there was a lot of pro adam, anti-danny sentiments going into the final 3. plus, danny’s standout song of the season would have probably been the rascal flatts song and there is no way that would have stood up against mad world, imo. (and yeah, isnt this an old quote? )

Haven’t read all the comments yet, but the headline about Danny thinking he would have won if he beat out Kris caught my eye . Just when I was starting to think he is awright, he opens his mouth… I don’t see any love from Kris fans for Danny. They either would have dropped out of the voting race if Kris got voted off, or at least some would have gone to Adam, I think. But who knows, and who cares. Danny came in 3rd. Dream, I mean scream, on, Danny!

Re:Adam Lambert Dogged by Diva Claims on ‘American Idols Live!’  Tour, I went to his San Jose concert. If he sounds that awesome while skimping on rehearsals (that is, if it is true, which likely isn’t) that’s great! He should get some more sleep and rest his fabulous voice.

Herald Extra!: News Alert! If Danny had beaten Kris and then beaten Adam, he’d have won! If wishes were horses, we’d all of us ride!

Even more startling — If Jorge had beaten Sarver, Megan, Scott, Lil, Anoop, Matt, Allison, Danny, and Kris, *he’d* have beaten Adam.

Darn, that Jorge just came within a hair’s breadth of winning.

Now I could see the David Cook band could be in for the sleepover BBQ- he’s only charging $50,000, Cookie you sell yourself short……bwah.

The band we wanted have been in the business a long time ergo could demand a good price and standard perks.

And yes for charities or even contests you could get a band playing your backyard or home with someone else looking after the complications – Bare Naked Ladies had a “come play at your BBQ concert” contest sponsored by one of the Canadian beer companies, that would have been so cool. this is when they were newly hot on the scene.

Actually the Canadian beer companies do promotions like that every year – usually a big party weekend up north in cottage country with some new hot Canadian band playing and they promise hot chicks in the commercials to entice the male beer drinkers. You have to win the invite of course, Is it this year they are going to have the party train across Canada? Actually that could be a blast as long as everyone can handle their liquor.

Though my guess is it is usually bands just starting out that agree to this, the more established bands tend to do the private gigs for the greenbacks. They can make more money with the private gigs. Some nice pocket change. Hey Weezer played the Playboy Mansion, bwah.

Just got twitter that says “adamlambert: hey guys it adam just got my twitter running back ”

Does this mean they resolved the problem or this is the hacker twitting?

For those of us dinosaurs who have not joined the Twitter revolution, what the bloody heck is a ‘bubbletweet’? LOL

lol .. it’s a kind of little video message thing that pops up in a bubble on twitter .. it’s like posting a little video message … instead of the normal printed one.

It’s all done in a “godly” way … ha ha

All I can say is if Danny and Adam didn’t get along before, they must be now. Of all people, it is Danny who is helping Adam informing people of his twitter acct and doing a bubble tweet together. I think Danny’s problem is he is clueless about certain things, and it probably has nothing to do with Adam.

Even more startling ‘” If Jorge had beaten Sarver, Megan, Scott, Lil, Anoop, Matt, Allison, Danny, and Kris, *he’d* have beaten Adam.

Darn, that Jorge just came within a hair’s breadth of winning.

ROTFLMAO

lol .. it’s a kind of little video message thing that pops up in a bubble on twitter .. it’s like posting a little video message ‘ ¦ instead of the normal printed one.

Thanks for the info! I couldn’t find the answer on Wikipedia, and was disinclined to spend more effort trying to find it.

According to Danny that last message from Adam was the ‘hacker’

“dannygokeyHey u all me and Adam are gonna bubble tweet the truth. Apparently someone on his account posted right after I did saying it’s him
32 minutes ago from Twitterrific ”

My two cents on who picked what car…

I think Kris is happy to get any kind of car. In the commercial he and Adam did with David Cook, he said something along the lines of “I really needed a new car” and I don’t think he was joking. I remember seeing some article or interview about how he was driving some old clunker that was always breaking down and nothing worked on it…for example, he was always running out of gas because the gas gauge was broken. I think the speedometer and several over things on the dashboard were broken as well. So probably any kind of new car would be fine with him!

For those wondering how Adam did that upside down bubble tweet for Matt, don’t you know Aliens can travel upside down?

From Idol09

IDOLTOUR09Adam has been highjacked on Facebook, MySpace and Twitter so what you read now isn’t him. We’ll let you know when it’s resolved.
3 minutes ago from web

And oh yeah…if it had been Danny vs. Adam in the finale, I think Adam would have won. I don’t know too many Kris fans who actually like Danny, but I do know some Kris fans who really like Adam. Kris and Danny aren’t all that similar musically, and although both are Christians, I don’t know if they are all that similar in that way, either (but I don’t want to stir up a whole debate on religion, so I’ll stop here).

Thanks, Squirrely, I only follow Adam, so I can’t crossreference.

Adam fans had Kris’ back when they thought Kris was in the bottom three at least a couple of times (DialIdol). They split their votes so Kris would be safe. So, you know that Adam fans also like Kris.

Has any other third- or fourth-place contestant ever given interviews where he/she says he/she could/should/would have won if X, Y, or Z had or hadn’t happened? It just seems like very bad form to me.

Has there ever been a contest where the producers had such a goldmine of controversy to plumb, where the contest on AI was perceived as playing out a hot social issue of the day? No. Pretty much all the reporters were interested in was the effect of Adam being gay, whether they would state it explicitly that way or not. The contestants respond to the questions they are asked. Danny thought the same thing that a lot of other people think, that Adam is fantastic but his appeal is less broad for this particular contest. That is not the least bit hateful or arrogant or what-have-you. I think the same thing and I spent many hours voting for Adam, even though I knew he’d lose once Danny was voted off. Adam would have had a better shot at winning against Danny because Kris’ votes would have split more than Danny’s did IMO, but Danny probably would have won if he had made the finals. But it played out the way it did and they’re all fine and having a blast together.

I don’t know why that reporter decided to dredge up that old interview, it’s kind of irritating because people with less than stellar reading comprehension skills may come away with the idea that this is still on Danny’s mind, when what it is is that the whole “could a gay guy win” thing is still on the reporter’s mind.

Can’t get through all the comments now, but anyone know anything about Danny’s recent tweeting that Adam’s twitter account has been hacked? Seems weird, given I see no recent tweets from Adam at all. Is Danny just trying to get followers, or what? Or is Danny the one who’s been hacked? Seems really odd. *shrug*

The official IdolTour09 Twitter account just stated:

“Adam has been highjacked on Facebook, MySpace and Twitter so what you read now isn’t him. We’ll let you know when it’s resolved.”

gut instinct (and a bit of logic) tells me that they probably wouldn’t give the winner a car that retails for around $27K and the runner up one that is over $50K.

The promo value of having Adam drive a Ford and make one of their most expensive, high-profit cars cool is probably worth about $5 million. Because my guess is that it would increases sales of this great car by at least 5,000 units –that $25,000,000 in sales. It is a spectactular car — powerful, high-performance, almost like an old-school muscle car — plus there are a lot of design packages. Who’s a better spokesmodel for that? IMO if Ford misses this opportunity, they are really clueless.

And do you really think anyone would buy a Ford Fusion because Adam had one? Not. In fact, I can’t see Adam valet parking a Ford Fusion at the Roosevelt to go to Teddy’s — where I am sure he can easily walk right in now. Urgh!

I don’t know why that reporter decided to dredge up that old interview, it’s kind of irritating because people with less than stellar reading comprehension skills may come away with the idea that this is still on Danny’s mind, when what it is is that the whole ‘could a gay guy win’  thing is still on the reporter’s mind.

I guess I am one of those with “less than stellar reading comprehension skills”. I only saw the article post date and no date of the reporter’s interview with Danny on his thoughts re his chance of winning without Kirs in the running. I avoided reading most articles/comments about Danny during the season so wasn’t aware this is not a new interview.

What’s Teddy’s?

Thanks LisaE! Weird stuff. Poor Adam, it’s always something.

GlamGirlLee, you posted while I was typing up my comment, so if it appeared that my comment was a shot at you, that is not the case. In the article the reporter mentioned that Danny’s comments were from an interview last month.

weareallinnocent, I’m just aware of one tweet from Adam that I and others thought was from a hacker – it has been deleted. If you look at the headline thread from yesterday, I posted it. (I wouldn’t bother though, it wasn’t anything interesting).

What’s Teddy’s?

http://www.jetsetreport.com/nightlife.php?articleId=53

Adam mentioned it in his acceptance speech for the Young Hollywood Awards.

Re:Adam Lambert Dogged by Diva Claims on ‘American Idols Live!’  Tour, I went to his San Jose concert. If he sounds that awesome while skimping on rehearsals (that is, if it is true, which likely isn’t) that’s great! He should get some more sleep and rest his fabulous voice.

LOL! I thought the same thing! Not that I like to agree with missing rehearsals, but I can seriously cut someone a little more slack when (and if) they skip, but kick ass in performances regardless. And if he gets more rest and stays healthy, I’m all for that

What’s Teddy’s?

I believe it is a trendy club in LA – quoted by Adam during the Young Hollywood Award ceremony as a place he couldn’t get into until Idol fame struck

Adam fans had Kris’ back when they thought Kris was in the bottom three at least a couple of times (DialIdol). They split their votes so Kris would be safe. So, you know that Adam fans also like Kris.

I lived off the EW Idolatry coverage for most of the season, and, not that that’s the end all be all, but the Kradam/Kradison love was pretty strong there, just reading the comments. Slezak kind of perpetuated it, tbh, but there was definitely a strong mentality of, eh, they’re both awesome (Adam and Kris) so there wasn’t really a “winner” and a “loser” this year – they both WIN!!

Danny just posted the bubble tweet with Adam.

Danny just posted the bubble tweet with Adam.

Link please?

Gosh, its always something with Adam.

@JosieX, no worries. I didn’t take it as a shot at me. I was feeling a little stupid for not having been able to discern it from reading it on my own. I am work and am not reading every word very carefully. I just can’t resist the pull of mjs blog.

Link to bubble tweet: http://bbltwt.com/uf3qt

I was able to view it a few seconds after it being posted and now there is an internal error. Let me see if I can get it unless someone else beats me to it.

Edited to say: never mind, someone else beat me to it. And yeah if any any trouble veiwing it click refresh a few times and it will work.

Teddy’s is the bar at the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood. It’s a famous A-list celebrity hangout where they do a good job keep out tourists and other gawkers. It’s more of a oldline powerbroker hangout than trendy. People on the business side also go there.

As Will mentioned, at the Young Hollywood Awards Adam said that 3 months earlier he couldn’t gt into Teddy’s and now …

I think it’s nice that Adam can now get into Teddy’s.

I just keep clicking it and eventually it worked for me.

It was funny. Matt and Dannys voices, Megan in her hoodie saying “get outta town” and Adams barking. hahaha

Gokey Twitter page link:

http://twitter.com/dannygokey

That WP review of Daughtry was pretty funny. Probably because that style of music is my least favorite ever, so a good mocking makes me laugh.

I watched the Bubble tweet. Adam’s email too? Get a life indeed. Smart of them to do it on Danny’s twitter since he has the most followers after Adam.

GlamGirlLee, not at all stupid, people do tend to scan these kinds of articles pretty quickly. I read the ones about Danny carefully to figure out what I’m going to have to deal with.

Here’s a link to the bubble tweet in case someone hasn’t already posted it by the time I get this typed. Once you pull it up it won’t start for a few seconds.

http://www.bubbletweet.com/index.php?id=uf3qt

Thank you, will, Mary102 and Q3. I heard him mention it at Young Hollywood Awards but didn’t know what it was and forgot to “research” it. Just can’t keep up with all these Adam-related stuff!

Twitter is having capacity problems — been chronic for the past few weeks. You can launch Danny and Adam’s bubble tweet for Danny’s home page but it takes some time to load.

Essentially Adam’s twitter account has been hacked. And so has he Facebook page. They are pulling down the fake tweets as soon as they show up. And they are working on shutting down the hackers.

Has there be a twitter hack before? Or is this the first time?

1. Channel Disruption:

Yep. Since Walmart and Target on the only two stores left in the US who still sell CDs, bands that aren’t going to sell in WalMart and Target don’t really need major label deals.

2. Concerts are Expensive:

Personally, I’m done. I’ve been abused by Ticketmaster for the last time. I sat logged on with the presale code already pasted in the box when Ryan Adams tix for Boston went on sale. Best available were crap seats. The good seats were already on Ebay. Pardon my French, but eff that. Life is too short.

3. Universe of Choice:

That’s the biggest challenge, figuring out how to find out about the good bands. The record labels actually make it more difficult. I’m usually late to the party with good bands, but one thing lead to another. For example, I saw Ryan Adams on the Emmy Lou Gram Parsons tribute CD and concert and then again on the incredible Cowboy Junkies Trinity Revisited DVD. Hanging out on Ryan Adams’ concert trading sites quicikly led to a lot of reverent chatter about Jack White. It really is just good old-fashioned word of mouth, internet style. Ryan Adams and Jack White are like walking encylopedias of rock’s best, starting with their heavy Dylan influence. Just wonderful to find such creativity. They aren’t really my cup of tea, but I’m sure The Dead Weather’s CD release gig at the legendary 930 Club in D.C. last night was quite the rock affair. Recorded in Jack White’s studio, no promotion other than appearances on the Tonight Show etc., if they sell 200,000 copies it’s all gravy.

Adam Lambert mentioned Goldfrapp and Thievery Corporation as two of his favorites, so scurry off to find that Goldfrapp is a killer rock/techno band with a big hit cover of a 1973 Faces song and Thievery Corp is a wonderul world music/techno group with terrific Latin and Indian and Middle Eastern influenced jazzy techno mixes. Both have some really good CDs.

I love this guy’s blog post about “assaulting” DA on the airplane! He said:

‘I now realize that if I’d have been paying attention, I would have realized something was up before we landed. Apparently everyone on the plane but me knew he was in first class. I suddenly realized that the stench of estrogen was strong in the air and that every female was now mobbing to get a glimpse of him. I was literally being pushed toward him and he was being pushed, by me, into a corner. I’d like to say that I was filling the role of his bodyguard by shielding him from the onslaught with my body, but I really didn’t have control over the situation.’ 

-snip-

and this after their conversation:

“He was very gracious and even thanked me a couple times for taking pictures of other people with him. I did sneak one quick picture in before he literally RAN through the terminal to get away from the growing mob of giddy teenage girls and middle aged mothers.”

It is so funny! Read the rest at the link below.

http://smithplanet.com/archives/i-assaulted-david-archuleta

That is HILARIOUS!!

OK in the great mystery of who doesn’t get along with Adam, scratch off Danny.
The list is getting shorter everyday.

Not: Anoop, Megan, Lil, Kris, his sister Alison, Danny, Michael

Really doubt it, but no proof yet: Matt

Probable: Scott

Looks like MJ is right again!

By far not the first Twitter hack. They have real issues and I can’t believe I forgot about the Obama hack.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/05/twitter-gets-hacked-badly/

Adam is cute in the bubble tweet. And his email account too? I guess Adam is one of those who uses the same password for all their online accounts (I’m one of them too).

Smiling at hwc’s post above since that’s how I have been discovering a lot of bands I had been oblivious to previously: “scurryng off to find” anything mentioned by Adam-related posts. Heh.

It wouldn’t need to be the same password. This looks like it’s some kids pranking so my guess is they used a “reset password” scheme to get in. But maybe they were more sophisticated.

As Adam said to these hackers — “get a life”.

They have taken control of Adam’s myspace page too.

OK in the great mystery of who doesn’t get along with Adam, scratch off Danny.
The list is getting shorter everyday.

Not: Anoop, Megan, Lil, Kris, his sister Alison, Danny, Michael

Really doubt it, but no proof yet: Matt

Probable: Scott

During the Group 2 days, I think Adam and Matt got along really well. Adam thought Matt should be chosen for wild card. He said they got closer when they did a group 2 duet. Then during the mansion days, Adam and Matt would cut it up quite a bit. I think Matt got a lot of his funny voices from Adam (Matt mentioned Adam did funny voices and accents).

I think it may have been after the show that Matt could have shown a little bit of jealousy towards Adam (just from some of his comments).

To me, the jury is still out about Michael.

They have taken control of Adam’s myspace page too.

Good grief. Some people certainly have pretty sad lives in that they waste their time doing things like this. How pathetic.

I wonder when this all started……….

OK based on BestAI logic, I scratch off Matt.

And no, I just can’t believe it’s Michael. It would really be against the teachings of his church — and I just can’t see that. Plus, they aure seem to get along now.

It must be Scott.

It really is just good old-fashioned word of mouth, internet style. Ryan Adams and Jack White are like walking encylopedias of rock’s best, starting with their heavy Dylan influence. Just wonderful to find such creativity. They aren’t really my cup of tea, but I’m sure The Dead Weather’s CD release gig at the legendary 930 Club in D.C. last night was quite the rock affair. Recorded in Jack White’s studio, no promotion other than appearances on the Tonight Show etc., if they sell 200,000 copies it’s all gravy.

One of my favorite artists was into something called bandstocks where fans (he was on his fourth album at this point and developed a following) invested in making his album, getting a free download in exchange for the investment, plus any profits if the album does make any. I didn’t participate, so I don’t know the details, but he produces, writes and performs his own stuff, so his costs would be lower than a big production, but this way there is no record label debt, even if you have less people directly purchasing your album.

There are a lot of DIY albums out there that are really good, though. Some of my favorite acts I saw open for a slightly larger one, so I would never give up going to see bands. I try and get around Ticketmaster any way I can though, which is a bit easier living in a major city as I just go to the venue and purchase my tickets.

I really think it is choice and various styles of music to choose from that “hurt” the market at times. However, it doesn’t hurt me as a consumer to have that choice since I am an avid music buyer. I did hear one of the indie labels that had my favorite group on it stopped releasing music so they have an album stuck in limbo, so there are the downsides, even for small labels.

I think it’s Scott only because he is the only one that both Adam AND Kris are not following… hmm..

Matt just posted a new bubble tweet featuring him, Danny, Michael and Scott. They talk some more about Adam being hacked:

http://www.bubbletweet.com/index.php?id=ohaec

Adam Lambert’s secret: Accusations of warmth, professionalism dog American Idol finalist
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enjoy

It’s not Matt. In the AI tour program, Adam lists Matt as one of his closest friends on the show.

btw. I don’t know if it has been mentioned, but Allison will be singing “Barracuda” on Conan.

http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/408099_idolblog14.html

Matt has a new bubble tweet up about Adam (and Adam has a cameo, which is hilarious–as does Kris).

http://bbltwt.com/ohaec

White guys doing gangsta, gotta love it!

Here is a pretty bad review for Daughtry’s newest. I think this guy generally hates all the Idol stuff, IIRC.

I can’t get the link to appear. It’s chicagotribune.com, the paper’s music critic gave it 1 star.

Adam Lambert’s secret: Accusations of warmth, professionalism dog American Idol finalist
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enjoy

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Adam Lambert’s secret: Accusations of warmth, professionalism dog American Idol finalist
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enjoy

ditto Will :clap_tb:

ETA: my computer is screwy today so forgive my crazy posts.

lavender1960
What I do not understand is how it is that Nickelback and Theory of a Deadman ends up on the US rock charts and rock radio formats along with AC and Hot AC but the same rock stations scoff at the Idol rockers – hypocrisy really.

I find the whole Nickelback/ToaD [.....'ToaD', ROFL!!!] quite amusing, being a Canadian. I myself cannot tell them (and several other bands) apart (partly because I just never listen to them and rarely listen to the radio). I find the love/hate ratio for bands of this ilk within Canada to be pretty even. I know people who absolutely LOVE them, and others like my brother, who hates Nickelback with the white hot heat of a thousand suns. He once had to endure a 5-hour roadtrip with the frontseat passenger insisting on playing Nickelback the entire way. He said the only reason he survived was sitting in the back drinking copious amounts of beer. LOL!

Adam Lambert’s secret: Accusations of warmth, professionalism dog American Idol finalist

Ahh, refreshing! An account with sources and attributed quotes. How nice.

Booyah to The Examiner in Boston (Boston in da house!) for showing Adam some love!

Adam Lambert’s secret: Accusations of warmth, professionalism dog American Idol finalist
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enjoy

Thank you. That is what a real article is about: real names, not “a source”.

Twit pic of Adam and Michael Sarver:

http://twitpic.com/adtda

OK in the great mystery of who doesn’t get along with Adam, scratch off Danny.
The list is getting shorter everyday.

Not: Anoop, Megan, Lil, Kris, his sister Alison, Danny, Michael

Really doubt it, but no proof yet: Matt

Probable: Scott

Looks like MJ is right again!

Just curious why Anoop has not been a “suspect.” I like Anoop but I have noticed that he has one of those frat boy smart mouth personalities, at least it seemed that way several times when he was not given very good reviews by the Judges. I have always wondered if he was the one… intellectual, only child, college MBA, etc. maybe he kind of smarted off a few times at the whole glam nail polish thing… Just curious.

Just curious why Anoop has not been a ‘suspect.’ 

During Adam’s hometown visit, an interviewer brought up Anoop, saying something along the lines of, “We talked to Anoop Desai and he said…” and Adam interrupted to say, very enthusiastically, “I love Anoop!” Also, he talked about how one of his favorite non-performance moments during the show was the time that he, Anoop, Kris, and Lil just hung out and talked about life for hours after the show. There’s also Anoop pointing and agreeing with the others when, during the Idol Extra interview with the top 7, they say that Adam is the main person they go to for advice or comfort. In the same interview, Anoop mentions that Adam had helped him with song choice a few times. Also, when asked during one of his post-idol interviews about his favorite performance from another contestant, Anoop said it was Adam’s ACIGC and talked about how it gave him chills.

I don’t know why I remember all this, but I guess it just seems like there’s a lot of evidence that Anoop and Adam like each other.

If this has been mentioned already, then I apologize. Allison’s official page is up and running. You can see it HERE.

Twit pic of Adam and Michael Sarver:

http://twitpic.com/adtda

How cozy! Maybe Kris will lend them the headphone splitters!

I don’t know why that reporter decided to dredge up that old interview, it’s kind of irritating because people with less than stellar reading comprehension skills may come away with the idea that this is still on Danny’s mind, when what it is is that the whole ‘could a gay guy win’  thing is still on the reporter’s mind.

This. It is an old interview and we already had an article just a week or so ago bringing up the same quotes, but also with alot of the author’s slant in it that people seemed to confuse for Danny’s current sentiments.

I agree that Danny was responding to a specific question. He has never done anything but compliment Adam as a singer/artist….and compliment him highly. While I don’t necessarily know who would have won if it had come down to Adam and Danny, I do think Danny would have had a good chance. People who want to say that Kris’s fans would not vote for Danny because Adam and Kris are such good friends, seem to not realize that the casual veiwer would have no idea based on just watching the show alone that Adam and Kris were such good friends. IT’s the Internet peeps that know and care who is friends with whom. And I personally think the the outcome is based more on casual veiwers. Heck, we already know that if the obsessed Internet peeps decided the outcome, Danny would never have made top 3.

Josie, I had to lol at your comment that you read the Danny articles very carefully so that you know what you are going to have to deal with. Word.

Short, amusing interview of Chris Daughtry in current Newsweek. He talks about twitter, Kris and Adam, and a few other things.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/206159

It’s a labor of love aek, labor of love.

Funny video of the guys without scott

http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/4TvR1Nc36rUI0NYt

Ryan Adams and Jack White are like walking encylopedias of rock’s best, starting with their heavy Dylan influence. Just wonderful to find such creativity.

thanks hwc for helping me discover ryan adams. i start the day by listening to When The Stars Go Blue any other similar artists you recommend?

I love you Q3 but I don’t see the fact Adam is driving one is going to impact Mustang car sales by THAT much – Ford got the primary bang for their buck in their overall involvement as a sponsor of the show and the weekly videos – the Fusion and Fusion Hybrid is going to sell more with the overall demographic of Idol than the Mustang, because of cost and because Hybrid makes you a good citizen of the world. The Mustang is a fun car for people who can still afford fun cars along with the insurance. Sporty car always equal higher insurance premium or it does here.

Have you ever bought a car because your favourite celebrity is driving it? I certainly have not. Now I will admit the Escalade has benefitted from being the favoured car of the hip hop rapper set but that is because all those guys were featuring those cars in videos and singing about Escalades so the brand name was being repeated constantly – but it also means the Escalade is the favourite target of thieves, certainly is around here. Maybe Ford needs a new hip artist to sing about Ford Mustangs. Plus there are probably more celebrities driving Hybrid cars right now than other cars or at least they make sure they are seen driving their Hybrid cars around Hollywood – the list is long, I remember at least one of the magazines did an article on it.

Mustangs, even the cheapest model, are not cheap and I suspect males of a certain age are the primary buyers and those are not Idol watchers nor the kind of guys impressed by who else is driving the Mustang and certainly not be impressed that an Idol runnerup is driving it, they are more concerned about impressing the neighbour down the road or reliving their youth when perhaps they owned a Mustang. And yes there are women out there driving Mustangs too, of all ages. Because it is a pretty car with history.