UPDATE: Rumor has it, David will perform the new single on American Idol May 2. This according to one of the song’s co-writers, Andrew Waldeck. David’s other “Laying Me Low” co-writer is Chris Reardon.

David Cook has been working quitely in Nashville for months, writing songs and quietly getting ready for his next project.

Last week he surfaced with a little video update as he signed posters that were about to go on sale. He promised there would be new music at one point.

Now it looks like new tunes will be coming sooner rather than later. There is a new single listed at Amazon
for the American Idol season 7 winner.

The song, “Laying Me Low,”  is set to be released on April 30. You can listen to a 30 second clip right here:

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  • hellomusicgirl

    Woo, new music from Mistuh Cook! I really like the snippet! I hope he’ll also be making an appearance on Idol this year. And making an appearance on a concert stage in front of me this year too ;)

  • wordnerdarchie

    April 30 can’t come soon enough for me. I want to hear the rest of the song. I’m liking the kick drums and it sounds like it has some blues influence, but it’s hard to tell for sure from such a short snippet.

  • Karen C

    I love the snippet, can’t wait to hear the rest of the song. It sounds very catchy and I’m hoping it will be a big hit:) I’m hoping he’ll be on Idol, probably will that week.

    I think it’s interesting the label is XIX Recordings, I know Simon Fuller was trying to put together some kind of label that artists would have full control, I wonder if this is it.

    Can’t wait for concerts too:)

    At least from the snippet, it kind of reminds me of One Headlight by the Wallflowers a bit. Again, can’t wait to hear the rest of the song.

  • girlygirl

    I was looking forward to new music from David, but I’m not really feeling this from the snippet. Maybe I’ll like it better when I hear the whole song.

  • http://twitter.com/Sky_in_wa Northwest music fan

    I love it, I can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

  • bearcatnat .

    WAHHHHHH!!! I just saw this in my feeds inbox and about had a heart attack! WHEEEEE, you just made my day!!! : D Lovely music, as always. Can’t wait to hear MOOO-AAARRRR!

  • bearcatnat .

    Ditto on hoping to see Mr. Cook on Idol this year! I misssss me some David Cook.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marjanaisweird Aakash Mansukhani

    DAVID FRIGGIN COOK
    AWWWWW YEAHHHHHHHHHH

  • analythinker

    Bring it on!

  • movin2thabeet

    I hear radio ear candy – a catchy song that pulls you in. I can’t wait to hear the whole thing and folks responses to it. I hope this song is a great re-launching pad – bounce, bounce, soar!

  • JoleneJ

    This sounds great! Looking forward to the whole song.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I’m sure you will, D Cook tends to grow on a person with repeated listens, as long as you keep an open mind.

  • bearcatnat .

    Didn’t David part ways with XIX? Has there been a reconciliation?

  • Incipit

    Oh Damn, DC! Snippets are evil, there is no doubt – and this is the snippet from the little ‘snip’ from last week with the stomp/clap – which was even more evil…eviler? Heh. So, waiting for the drums and the guitars, and waiting for the lyrics, with the double meanings to be teased out, and waiting for the part where he sings the sh!t out of this, just waiting for April 30th and the whole song.

    But honestly, I don’t care how ‘evile’ it is – It sounds like ‘good’. It may even be another ‘song about a b!tch’. Who knows? April 30th is only 10 days away – and it’s new music from DC, Damn it!

    Yeah, It’s all good.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I think you have 19 mixed up with XIX. ;)

  • Karen C

    He left 19 and RCA. XIX the management company that Simon Fuller has now, and has been his management since sometime around August of 2011.

  • Karen C

    Yes, I listen to his music more and more, even the old music. Especially after hearing him live.

  • bearcatnat .

    But apparently XIX is associated with 19. In a web search for “XIX Recordings”, I came up with this from Wikipedia:

    “In March 2005, 19 Entertainment founder Simon Fuller sold the group to Robert Sillerman’s CKX, Inc. in a cash and stock deal worth $210 million. Fuller remained in his role as CEO…until January 2010 when at coming to the end of his employment contract with CKX, Inc., he decided to start up a new business, XIX Entertainment…Following this CKX, Inc. announced its intention to shift 19 to becoming a US business focusing solely on the American Idol and So You Think You can Dance brands. 19′s old Headquarters in Battersea, London became the headquarters for Simon Fuller’s new business, XIX, while 19 Entertainment became based from its Los Angeles office.

    In September 2010 much of 19′s non American Idol business was sold to Simon Fuller’s new business XIX Entertainment. This included 19′s non-Idol management clients such as David and Victoria Beckham, Andy Murray, Annie Lennox, The Spice Girls, Lewis Hamilton, S Club 7, Carrie Underwood, David Cook, and others and Roland Mouret and Victoria Beckham’s fashion businesses.”

  • wordnerdarchie

    Yep, Simon bought out much of 19′s old clients who were not from American Idol, but he kept Carrie Underwood and David Cook. He’s in good company. :D However, it appears they are separate entities now.

  • bearcatnat .

    As an aside, I find it a little hilarious that I’m seeing several of us Cookies discuss this song snippet both here and at DCO. Here’s me in the last hour:
    *Reads headline from MJ’s big blog in my email news feed*…*SQUEEEEES*….*runs to MJ’s blog to read/listen*….*comments at MJ*….*listens again*…*runs to Facebook to post about new song*…*listens again*….*runs to twitter to tweet about new song*…*runs to DCO to discuss new song*…*listens again*….*runs to Pinterest to post about new song*….*runs back to MJ to read new comments*…*listens again*….

    *Whew* That was a lot of running. I’m exhausted!

  • bearcatnat .

    Aha, thanks for that clarification! Apparently Simon Fuller has *very* good taste! It seems really odd that the new company is “XIX”. Don’t we all know that means “nineteen”, and yet it’s not “19″? It’s confusing!

  • Pippygirl

    Sounds good although a little more pop than I was expecting.

  • tierbee

    Snippets tend to mislead me so I’m just going to be content with being excited about new music :) Gimme!

  • bearcatnat .

    In my excitement of the first few listens, I didn’t give the lyrics much thought. But they really are great! “I fall apart when I’m with you, I cry when I kiss you, I know you’re really no good…” I mean, HOLY LYRICIST BATMAN!! No trite lines here, no sir-ee!

  • Incipit

    *Whew* That was a lot of running. I’m exhausted!”

    Heh. I was also visiting a few choice destinations with the news, bearcatnat. While listening. I hear the AH voice in there. Which I just happened to have been playing anyway. And checking back here – and collecting the credits for that cool picture for the singles cover from the Cookistas. And seeing who has started with the lyrics already. That too.

    >>?@COOKistas
    Art Cover of David Cook’s new single (4/30/2013 release). Photo credit: @Russ_Harrington

    Been waiting for a while. What was that infamous line, ‘Spinning in ever decreasing circles”?

    *snerk*

  • wordnerdarchie

    Yes, it is confusing. It was interesting when I heard Carrie U thank her management… she said X…… I……. X (the letters and not what the Roman Numerals spell out – not 19)

  • hoosiermama

    Sounds promising! I like the beat–it’s catchy–found myself bopping my head. I’m definitely looking forward to hearing the full song!

  • Listening

    hmmm…. ummm….. I didn’t like it.The backing music felt canned/corny. Oh and another thing the cover is stupid from the waist down.

    I’m like what is this? THIS is what you do when you’re on your own, when you have free reign and can do whatever you want. It feels very poppy and very generic. I was expecting more.

    I really wanted to love his new stuff b/c I enjoyed so much of his music
    in the past but No. I’m not digging this snippet at all. I mean he’s gotta have something better on his album. I have no idea why he chose THIS for his reemergence in the public eye.

    Hopefully i’ll like it when I hear the entire song but I doubt it. Oh well fingers crossed.

  • elliegrll

    They aren’t the same. Simon Fuller started 19, but he sold the company, and then started XIX. It was just a management company, but he’s starting to expand it, just like he did with 19.

  • suenigma

    Oh, I’m loving this – I hear a little spit and vinegar. Great Photo too – very pretty.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    This has a pop rock sound to me, much like music he has done post-Idol. I’m disappointed in David. I loved him on the show, but haven’t been able to get behind his music since then. I’m not necessarily someone who needs “total rock,” but I haven’t cared for the direction he’s gone in, either.

  • suenigma

    Eh, the guy has to eat. Not convinced that the general public is interested in pure rock right now, and those select few that are interested have made it pretty clear that they aren’t buying what Cook is selling. I think it’s a good compromise between catchy/radio friendly and truely Cookian. I would be delighted to hear this on my radio.

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

    I am liking the preview I heard.

  • H.A.

    This is definitely pop rock which is kind of surprising to me. I thought now that David was free from the evil label chokehold he would make the music he wanted which was more of a harder rock sound. Maybe that was more wishful thinking on the fans part and never something David wanted. It’s not that much different than what he did with RCA. It will be interesting to see how he’s promoted without the backing of a label. Without a distribution label radio play will be unlikely. It takes 500k-1million to promote a single. XIX recordings sound to me more like 19 Recordings.

  • jpfan2

    It sounds fine. I’m just not into the genre of music that David makes. Trying to make in rock after coming from Idol is a big mountain to climb. He seems to have 19 in his corner so that’s a good thing.

  • Face

    hard to say from a 30 sec snippet… but it sounded catchy… much lighter & more poppy than I would have expected… I’m not sure why… but it was reminiscent of an up-tempo Michael Buble song… but good luck to the guy :)

  • Incipit

    wordnerdarchie, after all the talk among the drummers about this track on Twitter, how seriously badass they found it was to play – with “a kick, a snare, hi hat and one crash cymbal” – I anticipate hearing more from the kick drums too. The absence of fill from the toms speaks to a strong, uncluttered beat, and there is definitely a slight bluesy feel to parts of this short snippet. I also LIKE DC’s Pop/Rock Analog Heart voice – and I can plainly hear that in the chorus.

    The thought is this snippet may be parts of the bridge and the hook of the chorus – gotta say, I’m liking the musical choices here, and I have an attraction to internal rhymes, curious about the verses – and ready to hear the rest after this ten day countdown!

  • Karen C

    I don’t think it was so much that he was going for a harder rock sound, it was more about creative control. Even his preidol album, Analog Heart, was mostly pop rock, except for a few songs that were harder rock, and that’s how his post idol albums have been. Even harder rock artists release a softer rock song as a single.

    It is also possible he does have a distribution deal, because Myplay Direct, which is from Sony, just distributed the posters and lyric sheets, and his website is now copyrighted Sony Music Entertainment.

  • Incipit

    Listening, if you find you do like this track, and put it in your iTunes, you can put any cover picture you want with it – many people do. Few still have “Billie Jean” or the rest of the Season 7 tracks with the lame image Idol selected, for instance – Heh. (especially since there is a cottage industry in iTunes covers, kinda sorta – and so much to chose from.)

    But meanwhile, here are two clearer versions of the Harrington photo, until the creative contingent gets busy:

    Better quality pics:

    http://twitpic.com/ckjvcd/full

    Close up!

    https://twitter.com/IIdolizeDC/statu…088448/photo/1
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    Ah, but the Beast of Expectations – or wishful thinking on the part of some fans – not much to do about that – David ‘is’ making the music he wants, until he moves on to the next ‘progression’. He’s not gonna write “Let Go” again. Wish he would, but he won’t.

    I think there’s a big difference between “do whatever you want” and Not doing things you don’t want – Creative freedom still isn’t Carte Blanche – as suenigma posted “the guy has to eat.”. Nobody has “free reign” to ignore the marketplace, unless they are only publishing music for their own amusement – and that would be an expensive hobby, at as much as a million a pop to push a single to radio, if he even wants to mess with Terrestrial Radio and the graspy PDs. IDK about that.

    JMO. Of Course.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I have many different pictures on my iTunes than what originally downloaded with Idol tracks. I really do like that feature too. But I’m keeping this one. It looks like Dave is very relaxed, which I support.

    ETA: Oh, it looks like one of my posts disappeared overnight. How very odd.

  • WestiesRule

    Woo Hoo! I ? me some DC… Absolutely one of my all time favorite Idols. Can’t wait to hear his new music.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Listening to the snippet, watching the stomp clap vid http://vimeo.com/64255329 listening again to the snippet, repeat… I think I’ll need to practice the clap jump jump if I’m going to be able to do it at a concert someday, lol.

  • Connie Stamley

    Hope the timing of the release means a performance spot on Idol. Andy said earlier this was some of DCs darkest music. So it may not be indicative of the rest of the album. AH had some pretty dark songs. I prefer his Axium music to anything I’ve heard from him since. It was really raw but I love a lot of it.

  • iani

    It sounds to me that it might be the most commercial song he has released officially or not since TLM album, more than FIM, FHTZ, TLSIWFY to my ear…And it is what I thought a while ago when we were discussing here about his new music and directions, that he might come with “a little bit of country a little bit of R&R”. Pleasant mid-tempo sound, hope the whole song to be good, great vocals and I like my American boy in that picture.

  • Guest

    Not sounding very rock-ish from that clip. The snip still sounds like the HAC/AC dreck from TLM.
    SMH. David IMO will fare no better than before releasing the same old
    dated sounding stuff. He’s stuck in a rut he doesn’t want to or
    can’t get out of.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Speaking of being “poppier” than expected and the importance of being radio friendly, that suggests that one is shooting to be on the radio. So…? Otherwise, why bother. Just follow your muse.

    Furthermore, I am one of those that likes a rockier sound and remembers the day when radio wasn’t afraid to play longer rock songs, like Stairway to Heaven for instance. But, nowadays that cuts into their ad times which is far more important than the music. If we could only transport ourselves back to that previous mindset, then a song like Rapid Eye Movement, which I love, could be played on radio and, I think, become a hit. By letting ad buys and marketing wag the dog more than ever, you get less interesting music and more generic, copycat type stuff. (Not commenting on this song, which I’ve not heard yet. I don’t find judging a song on a snippet that fruitful.)

  • Incipit

    Yes, that struck me too in that photo, wordnerdarchie – David does look very relaxed…I won’t be swapping out that picture either. Also, on a shallow note – the boots are not cowboy boots, and they are really cool – like they have built in spats. Stylin! *wink*.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I just don’t agree that TLM was “dreck.” There was a lot of stuff that wasn’t HAC/AC friendly as I say below, but they cannot — apparently — promote that!

  • Guest

    Can’t see this getting any radio play worth a damn. Isn’t insanity doing the same thing over and over but expecting to get different results? Cook… doing the same old same old songs over and over… well, I think the end of the story is easy to figure out.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I don’t even know if David really cares that much about how he “fares”. He stated before the release of TLM that selling a lot was not the reason he releases music. He enjoys the process of making and performing music as well as working with other songwriters and musicians, and releasing music that he is personally proud of. I’m just happy I usually like most of what he makes.

  • mmb

    I think that is the best album cover/single photo Cook has had. He looks really good. I guess we will be seeing him on Idol this week or next …..

  • iani

    So true! This song says to me also he’s not done yet with the business, he still wants some of his music to put food on his table somehow, compromising business with pleasure and personal tastes is not an easy task in MO.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    What you said, Suenigma, is very true. I realize that. And yes, “classic” rock that was around when I grew up isn’t the hot ticket at this time, particularly among younger music buyers. I’m sure David’s core fanbase will like this tune and buy it.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    “I thought now that David was free from the evil label chokehold he would make the music he wanted which was more of a harder rock sound. Maybe that was more wishful thinking on the fans part and never something David wanted.” Bingo!

  • Listening

    MMMMM, Thanks Incipit for the close up pic of David’s face it made feel better. LOL I feel like a baby that’s been whining and just got her pacifier. Awwwww poor thing all is right w/ the world look it’s David’s face.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    You do need to “fare” well enough to make ends meet, as mentioned below. But on the other hand, I do agree that David, along with several of the other singer/songwriter Idol types, would take creative control/releasing what makes me happy over churning out music just because it will make them millions. Somewhre in there is a delicate balance.

  • standtotheright

    I’ve never understood this narrative that the guy who said his favorite bands included the Foo Fighters and Jimmy Eat World was going to release all hard rock songs. He likes melodic pop and alt rock. The best songs on AH were not the Axium holdover harder songs, IMO; they were the more melodic tracks like The Truth and Silver. ADAM wasn’t exactly a banger, either.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like a mix of styles and textures. But Breathe Tonight was IMO the best potential single of his post-Idol era and that could have been a Fall Out Boy track.

    As for this? It’s a snippet. I’m not hearing enough to get the arc yet.

  • iani

    He’s trying to do his best, I’ve never heard him saying his music is good and “expecting different results” because of it. Doing “the same over and over” is about trying to get a style, he can’t please all the musical tastes with it, improving the cliche is the key, to get the point when the style has some current elements melodically, with the arrangements or whatever to be accepted. We’ll see how the whole song will be, hope to get some spins though!

  • lurch3

    Hot diggity!

  • jmg887

    I’m not so sure anyone can or should dismiss or fully grasp the musical direction of a song much less entire album based on a 30 second snippet. The problem is that what a “fan” wants vs what an artist choses to do don’t always mirror and that is…wait for it…fine. It’s fine. If you don’t like it, cool. If you do, cool. That said, maybe waiting for the entire thing before casually writing it off would be fair? If this is the direction that he wants to go in and I like it then I am in. If not, I’ll wait until my ears are satisfied. From what I hear, it’s got some bluesy, casual rock, wee bits of country (but not the annoying kind). i’m intrigued enough and cannot wait to hear the rest :)

  • Incipit

    ladymctech, interesting this should come up. David’s Axium output wasn’t Classic Rock either – he may cover it – but he wrote post grunge rock in the beginning, and the next step, Analog Heart, was Pop/Rock long before Idol.

    And the fact that PD’s don’t like anything but that Mumfordy stuff right now is just an historical point, if David doesn’t release this track to radio. But the interesting thing is that a Post Grunge band called Oleander has their first album/single out now, after having been on hiatus since 2004, and they have tweeted David about this new song of his. As you say, people who like this tune will buy it.

    So maybe there are stirrings of interest for some forms of rock to come back around that aren’t about as soft as marshmallows. I wouldn’t know – like a lot of people, I quit listening to radio when they quit playing music I liked to hear. That was a long time ago. But somebody knows what the next trend will tend to be. Heh. Maybe it’s actual rock? *wink*

  • perfectstorm

    Not so sure if an Idol appearance is in the cards. Of the winners, David Cook seems to have removed himself from that. He was the only winner that was a no-show at the Simon Cowell tribute in the Season 9 finale. And he is known for refusing to sing Time Of My Life, which is the song, that put him on the map.

  • wordnerdarchie

    “He was the only winner that was a no-show at the Simon Cowell tribute in the Season 9 finale.”

    He was the only winner not to appear because he had a prior commitment and he wasn’t asked until the weekend before the appearance, lol. He’s been more than willing to participate in other Idol functions. I think the odds are high that he’ll be on. Now May 2 would be most obvious week, but that would be tough considering his participation in the Race For Hope activities that weekend.

  • Incipit

    Can’t see this getting any radio play worth a damn.

    If it’s never released to radio, then why would that matter, Guest??

    We have no idea what he has in mind for this song, dropping a boatload of cash on it just to please the PD’s? Radio, distribution deals, any of the logistics beyond actual sales and gigs? All unknowns.

    Don’t even know if it’s ‘the same old song’ – since we haven’t heard it – but once we do – I’ll be happy to know which ‘old song’ it’s the same as. I’d even vote – except I can’t chose, dammit!

  • Incipit

    Awwww. That’s sweet, Listening. You’re welcome!

  • Jordana33

    I definitely pick up some country in it. i’m glad to see that Cook is still prolific. However, the clip sounds a lot like the overdone 90s-style light-rock that he’s been putting out for the past 2 years. IMO, David Cook is the best winner to have ever graced the idol stage, but I still don’t think that his post-idol music has been playing to his strengths. Also, his latest music always sounds like a “compromise”. He wants to be a rocker, but since rock isn’t as marketable as it used to be, he compromises by trying to grungifying all of his music, which doesn’t seem to work for me.

    David’s best instrument has always been his voice, and the songs that tend to bring this out are the more stripped down ballads like Lie, LIfe on the Moon, Permanent, Makeover, Not Around, etc. That loud generic wall of sound that we hear in so many of his choruses, really masks the great qualities of his Voice. The live performances from his two albums that got the best feedback (and elicited the best sales bumps) were Lie (Carrie Underwood’s special) and his “Permanent” peformance on the Idol stage. I know a lot of people want him to rock out more, but I’d be happy with less rock.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    You are right…grunge more appropriately describes what he may have done in the past as opposed to classic rock. I love the Mumfordy stuff/folk rock sound, so I am in luck right now. And I would not be surprised to see “actual rock” make a comeback at some point.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    That would be nice, but I hate to get my hopes up.

  • tripp_ncwy

    David is managed by Simon Fuller who is the created American Idol and is an executive producer of the show. If he wants David to be on, David will be on. I remember it being discussed that as part of his contract his has a open slot when/if he wants one for anyone he wants.

  • Jordana33

    I think Cook has been a very positive supporter of Idol….far more than some recent winners who have tried to separate themselves from the show. In all fairness to Cook, Time of my life was an incredibly treacly/cheesy ballad that didn’t fit his style at all and probably did very little to gain him “coolness” points. However, he stuck with the song and tried to make the most of it. The Idol producers suck for making him sing ton most of his post-idol rounds.

  • standtotheright

    Honestly, I think the power of his voice is oversold. It’s a very good one, but I respond to the way he writes more than anything. And the songs that grab me most tend to have a strong instrumental riff or motif in place (BT, Paper Heart, Circadian). Lie and Permanent actually had strong instrumental components as well.

    Layered choruses are really common, and he seems to really like them. This song actually seems pretty straightforward instrumentally, if anything, which is why I’m reserving judgment. I actually hope there are more layers in the final product.

  • Incipit

    perfectstorm, I know not what you speaketh of. *scratches head* Everyone knows Idol screwed around getting that Season 9 tribute together (probably Warwick) and waited too long to ask David, by then he was already committed to the Shadow Buddies Charity for kids.

    DC has been on Idol every year since he won, for the last five years. Hardly removed from the Idol connection – he just did a promo and appearance for Idol in SouthEast Asia and when asked about other singing shows, has declared himself to be “Brand Loyal”

    If anyone other than fans have asked David to sing the Magic Rainbow song and been refused – that’s news to me. But fans have had many requests refused, for many reasons…none of them mean David is disassociating from Idol. In fact, David just sang “Time of My Life” in Indonesia…so that’s not truefax either.

    Plus, Simon Fuller’s XIX is David’s management company. If they want him on Idol – it’s definitely in the cards.

    IMO. OF Course.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Isn’t this great?!? A David Cook thread that is buzzing with both pro & con comments. I love it. Welcome back Mr. Cook. :))))

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    However, I have noticed that David tends to group many of his public appearances together in short spurts with long breaks of no public activity and/or very private functions. Remember when he was flying across the world back and forth, back and forth within a very short period of time? (I recall saying that his booker/tour manager must be insane.) So, it would not surprise me if he appeared on Idol May 2 and showed up in Washington the next day.

  • irockhard

    I don’t hear any country, this is straight up pop rock to me. I prefer hard rock myself but I need to hear the whole song to judge whether it’s good or not.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMyT1me Lori

    I disagree that Cook has removed himself from the Idol connection. I’d say along with Carrie, he has been the most loyal supporter of Idol both in the media and on the show. Not only has he performed EVERY year since 2008, in seasons 8 and 10, he performed TWICE on the idol stage. And he was one of their selected ambassadors for Idol Gives Back.

  • mmb

    Huh? David has performed on idol every single season since his win. He has never tried to distance himself from idol. He is still managed by Fuller, it’s creator. No doubt this release is timed to take advantage of the idol season

  • perfectstorm

    Maybe that’s the problem – David Cook has never been able to establish a fan base outside of Idol. He is too strongly connected to the brand. Lee Dewyze separated himself and got another record deal.

  • justmefornow

    After listening to the snippet I can’t really tell much about the song, but I’m glad David’s releasing new music. So far it sounds like vintage Cook, which I liked.
    No, he was never an especially hard rocker, my personal preference, but his music was good lighter rock. I hope he does perform it on Idol so I can hear the whole song live and have a better opinion of it.

    For the record, IMO, season 7 and season 10 were the absolute best, and I only ever bought music from two Idols, David Cook and James Durbin.
    Can’t wait for James new one this summer, and I’ll definitely check out David’s if he releases a new album as well.
    Lots of luck with this David.

  • Jordana33

    To me, Lie and Permanent had much more stripped down choruses than most of his more recent work (although this was more evident in his Live performances than the studio ones). i’d be fine with the layered choruses if they sounded more like how he tweaked “I did it for You” live, and less like a wall of noise. Nu metal groups like “Disturbed” also have layered choruses and are much more “hard rock’ than David, yet they still have a discernible melody and rhythm that make people actually want to dance.

  • Jordana33

    So now I’m confused….do you think Cook’s problem is that he affiliates too much with Idol or too little?

  • Incipit

    Bwahahaha! So, OK – Make up your mind? He’s removed from the Idol connection, or too strongly connected to the Brand? That’s, ah, quite a spread.

    Devil’s Advocate much? *wink*

  • standtotheright

    I think that the live performances of Lie were actually quite layered; they went from acoustic guitar and solo vocal to full-band (with multiple guitars) and backing vox (in fact, the lower harmonies in the live performances were something I preferred to the recordings). I don’t think there was discernably less going there than TLSIWFY or that the melody was more discernable in one than the other. Different strokes.

  • Cornucopial

    Glad to see David Cook back in the public eye; I hope he allows his voice to be heard without the “wall of noise” and that he keeps to his own strong songwriting talent; staying away from the pop formulas.

  • wordnerdarchie

    It’s possible, but when is the golf event? (just looked it up – it’s May 3). It would mean taking the red-eye.

  • Jordana33

    Maybe I’m just having trouble articulating what I mean……LOL! But there is definitely a certain sound of Cook’s that I favor more than others….

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I have so many good memories of Season 7, and David (both) was one of many. I hope he has more career success.

  • Jordana33

    LOL….it’s been a while since I’ve had the energy to offer my candid opinion in a Cook thread!

  • Jordana33

    I think that has more to do with David’s style of singing it. I think if you switched David’s voice with a country voice, it would sound like a country song. Especially the chorus where he sings” I fall apart when I’m with you……”, etc. It just reminds me of a country song (I can’t remember which).

  • Guest

    He’s going to need radio play if he hopes to move this single out of his hardcore fan base and into “more ears”. Thinking he doesn’t need radio is highly delusional, and more of the same insanity that will keep him from ever breaking out of the Idol bubble. If he and his dwindling fans are happy with that status quo, shrugs. He’s going to need more than just XIX Recordings getting him the same old slot on Idol to promote it. The old lady just ain’t what she used to be, but it’s a comfortable shoe for him, and if the shoe fits, keeps wearing it. David appearing on Idol doesn’t and hasn’t created any buzz that really counts in a while – TLSIWFY a case in point. David singing “pop rock” as this song is classified is nothing new – he tried and failed with that on TLG. Dunno, I’d have thought with this new ‘freedom’ he’d throw balls to the wall’ and rock out something fierce, or something. I’ll listen to the full song when it’s released, but unless it’s a 180 from this snippet I’m gonna be buying another pair of shoes. These old ones are comfortable, but it may be time for a change in style *wink*

  • Incipit

    wee bits of country (but not the annoying kind)

    *Chuckle* – I love the way you phrased that, jmg887. “Not the annoying kind”. Probably because I know exactly what you mean! It’s true – someone with a totally Country approach could sing that and not sound out of place – But “Lie” was the same way – and someone ‘did’ do a cover complete with twang.

    I think a lot of David’s songs ‘could’ cross genres…fit comfortably in many styles, just as he can. This one has that capacity, but so much more going on that “wee bits of Country” are just bits of spice. I’m awaiting the whole song because the minor notes have me looking at echoes and antecedents…can’t wait to hear.

  • Jordana33

    Which reminds me: I know his label used to discourage this, but I really love when Cook writes verses with long-winded sentences and esoteric lyrics, like the first verse in Daily Anthem. Perhaps his old label didn’t think it would be listener-friendly, but when done properly, I think it can really elevate a song, and Cook definitely pulls it off. For example, I think it’s a quality that drew me to Train’s “Drops of Jupiter”.

  • Jordana33

    Ughhh…..you can tell that there’s a lot of activity in a thread when Discus starts to have a meltdown….

  • Cornucopial

    Couldn’t agree more; the “listener-friendly” trend is so dumbed-down most of the time. I don’t understand it. The fact that indie bands are getting more successful all the time should make original songwriters stick to their principles. Hope DC does, too. He’s got the talent, no question.

  • Incipit

    “…he’d throw balls to the wall’ and rock out something fierce, or something.”

    Wait. What? Your theory is David needs radio play – even though there are artists who do fine with a fan base and gigs that get ‘more ears’ of people who don’t patronize Top 40 Radio…

    So, OK, Guest, it’s your theory. But then you postulate that the way to get radio play from the PD’s who are So Not Interested in playing anything but the most innocuous Mumfordy Folk Rock would be to “throw balls to the wall and rock out something fierce”? Which radio wouldn’t play? Sorry. This does not compute.

    Beyond the fact that David “rocks out something fierce” in his live shows for the fans who appreciate that, and always has – how is this supposed to work for radio? Is there some trend towards rock on Top 40 radio that you are aware of? Because, I’m not following the logic here, but I would like to.

  • Cornucopial

    Find your close-up more powerful than the far-away pose; the chair seems meaningless to me, while the intense look in his eyes says everything. I would prefer that close-up for that reason.

  • Chicagolaw

    Sounds really HAC; I would have loved something more alternative. It doesn’t sound much different than his last single in terms of the pop-rock vibe. But, I hope he can catch a break with radio this time. And, he will most certainly get to perform on AI very soon, which is always a good thing :)

  • Incipit

    “Ughhh…..you can tell that there’s a lot of activity in a thread when Discus starts to have a meltdown….”

    Ughhh Indeed, Jordanna33. And I was enjoying this thread so much – great conversations.

    Now here’s cloddish, hapless Disqus reposting fourteen comments in a row from earlier today. I’m afraid to look/see what else it has melted down, and where it has moved the conversations to.

    The whole concept of “a problem” is the next thing I was gonna bring up – because I think the “problem” is the market, not the music – but I may be wasting my time… when Disqus is attacking the continuity, conversational give and take gets lost in the resulting mess..IMO.

  • cheese1

    The melody in the verse reminds me of Catch My Breath, and the overall sound reminds me of some Train song I’ve heard on the radio, but slowed down. Snippets can lie, so I’ll give the whole song a chance. David does seem to be sort of stubbornly oblivious to current sounds and influences in any genre of rock, though, either mainstream,HAC rock-lite or alternative, and I find that frustrating. I still think he had songs on Analog Heart and his unreleased pre-Idol CD that sound more relevant than anything he’s done post-Idol, and I can’t blame the label anymore.

    Still my favorite male voice from Idol though. I hope he gets a performance slot in the next couple of weeks.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Listened to the snippet. It’s definitely pop/rock. Sounds kinds stale. Eh, at least it’s a move forward from TLM. Cook will definitely get a performance on Idol this season, but I don’t think radio will give this a try.

  • Incipit

    I can’t disagree with liking that intense look, Cornucopia, David’s hazel eyes are so dark they look brown – but I was wondering, when the medium is the message – what’s the message there? A little bit beat up modern stye chair that looks a bit like an office chair, on a rug, the color of which would not be found in most offices. With casually dressed artist, (frayed jean vest/snazzy spat boots) sitting casually. With specific spot lighting. His name in a very modern graphic sort of font – but the title of the song in an almost ‘turn of the century’ font that I hope someone has the name of – so I don’t have to search. Heh.

    It’s all a little bit of a dichotomy. And Mr. Graphic Designer did it for a reason. Because with the close up – the color would be gone – If it wasn’t just because he liked the darkness and the one splash of color and the look of two different fonts on the same page, then perhaps to convey some kind of mood, or message, with the medium. Any ideas?

    If Disqus will let us play?

  • standtotheright

    I think maybe I at least get what you were saying about the rhythmic part being obscured. I actually somewhat agree, but for me the solution is finding a producer that knows how to mix the drums forward without pushing *all* the instrumentation back in favor of the lead vocals. We’ll see if the new material does that.

  • Cornucopial

    I hope others have more cogent ideas than mine, but although it’s difficult for me to articulate, I’ll try. Your name for him, Mr Graphic Designer, is spot on for me, indicating the way he thinks of himself, which I think is not what resonates always for others. I think he thinks of himself in a journeyman, work-a-day way. He’s not aware of his own charisma and power, including his voice. I’ll leap into the fire by saying I fear this is why he hasn’t rocketed to big popularity. He doesn’t get that his face and voice knock people out. I think he still thinks the PTB know better than he does. And I don’t think they do, as evidenced by the singles they choose from his albums, often the weakest songs. Paying attention to the mood, the message might mean more to him, but it’s not what slams into most of our consciousnesses. He has a more visceral effect than I think he’s aware of.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    This has made me very cranky, because I wanted to like this snippet and I don’t, at all. Still sounds a little dated. I’ll wait for the full song to judge for real, but until then I am in full pout mode. Ugh.

  • Incipit

    Folks who are saying “stale” or “dated”, I wish you could be more specific – is it just an impression from the Evil Snippet, or is there concrete reason? I’ve already read three different genres and that’s from part of the bridge and part of the chorus!

    Ah, never mind – that’s not a fair question, I think, and it looks like I’m not going to get any concrete answers on that front until the 30th – when we can hear the whole song. Then my music guru person can tell me about the minor notes and sharps and flats and why? the strings in with that uncompromising drum pattern – and WTH for the horn counter melody in the chorus, and is that enough Dorian mode mixed into the construction to explain why a few people were getting flashes of Liverpool in the beginning?

    And perhaps we will know by then if David and his management are going to even release “Laying Me Low” to radio?

    I tell you – this is the reason “snippets are evil”. They raise more questions than they answer! *snerk*

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    LOL! I can kinda answer I guess. I mean it sounds like something that would have come out in the early 2000s rock wise. It doesn’t sound anything like what I would hear if I turned to a rock station today. And it doesn’t sound like any rock that makes it to pop radio these days… at least not so far. Right now it sounds like something that might be on the Vh1 countdown from a band that was popular 10-15 years ago… like Matchbox 20s new single or something like that.

    Of course, the full song might not give me those vibes at all, in which case I will rejoice, because I really really want to like new Cookie music.

  • lovetheusa1776

    Like this. Good work, DC.

  • Guest

    It doesn’t need to be OR get anymore specific – one either like what they hear, or they don’t. It either sounds good in your ears, or it doesn’t. Cook’s music just hasn’t translated to many people outside his base enough to get him to the next level. Dated and stale are relevant criticisms of his music that haven’t occurred in a vacuum. If he’d quit the pretentious BS and just rock out, or write songs that were more melodic and interesting the public at large may be more responsive. Doesn’t matter how great anyone thinks he is vocally – he has to release music that people other than his hardcore fans like, get an image makeover stat. Sorry – that beard and his styling help age and date him. Nothing about him if I didn’t already know who he was, would read fresh or interesting listening to this snip, and looking at that photo.

  • Guest

    One either like what
    they hear, or they don’t. It either sounds good in your ears, or it
    doesn’t. Cook’s music just hasn’t translated to many people outside his
    base enough to get him to the next level. Dated and stale are relevant
    criticisms of his music that haven’t occurred in a vacuum. If he’d quit
    the pretentious BS and just rock out, or write songs that were more
    melodic and interesting the public at large may be more responsive.
    Doesn’t matter how great anyone thinks he is vocally – he has to release
    music that people other than his hardcore fans like, get an image
    makeover stat. Sorry – that beard and his styling help age and date him.
    Nothing about him if I didn’t already know who he was, would read fresh
    or interesting listening to this snip, and looking at that photo.

  • Incipit

    “Of course, the full song might not give me those vibes at all…”

    Ahah. That’s exactly what my Music Guru is saying, Tinawina. They want to hear the rest of the arrangement, what the ‘arc’ is – and where it was planned to go, because “that has so much bearing on how one perceives the genre.”

    Yeah, absolutely it doesn’t sound like the Milquetoast Music passing for Rock that makes it to Pop Radio these days, (IMO) or i wouldn’t like it at all! And I would have to research for recently written rock that is played on a Rock Station today. If I could find a local rock station that plays anything new. I mean, I know new rock music – but the radio doesn’t play it.

    If it sounds like the early 2000′s – - Does that mean the early 2000′s is the last time radio played new rock? Scary thought. Okay. I’ll wait.

  • Ria_

    I am intrigued. David Cook has such a gift for writing melody. I hear a bit of country influence in this. I can’t think of any other Cook song where that is true. Some fans felt songs like Lie could cross-over to country radio. That song does not sound country at all to me but I can understand where country fans would like it. This snippet is the first time I hear a bit of a country sound in a Cook song.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Oh, by rock radio I mean “alt rock stations on satellite radio”. Pretty specific reference there! Ha! Maybe I should have said “stuff my friends send me or I find on Spotify or someone writes about on my fav music blogs” because that is really where I find most of the rock music made today that I like. As for rock that gets on pop radio..well do like Neon Trees at least!

    Anyway, I’ll wait for the full song. And if I still don’t like it I’ll checkout the album when it drops regardless.

  • Incipit

    “It doesn’t need to be OR get anymore specific – one either like what they hear, or they don’t. It either sounds good in your ears, or it doesn’t.”

    Well, it doesn’t need to for you, klimat – if it didn’t need to for me, I wouldn’t be asking. Heh. But perhaps you misunderstand. I’m asking about the basis for reactions to the Evil Snippet; without enough clues to do anything but speculate – the speculation has to be built on something.

    I’m not asking for the subjective criticisms to a whole song or a prescription for perceived problems – first, your subjective opinion of what David ought to do is not relevant to the question, and second, I would have to share your perception, which is an enormous hurdle right there.

    But that’s cool. Subjective opinions always are, KWIM?

  • justmefornow

    I sympathize with your problem with rock radio, but there is great new rock being played on the radio all the time, it’s just on Sirius radio.
    Octane (channel 37) is pretty much all I listen to in my car anymore.
    You should give it a listen. Sevendust, Stone Sour, Volbeat, Sixx A.M., Disturbed, Papa Roach, Bullet For My Valentine, all of their new releases. (Papa Roach’s new album is great btw.)
    I could go on and on.
    Give it try.

  • Incipit

    Okay, Tinawina and justformenow – Satellite Radio is the only place to find comparisons – I kinda figured Terrestrial radio was still a waste.

    Thanks. I’m awaiting the full song too – this is a cool thread to pass some time in. *grin*

  • Guest

    lol. Why does there need to be a basis for speculation? Speculation is speculation, it doesn’t require any prerequisites or defense. Perhaps the reason for Cook’s problems getting over with his music is tied to some of his fan’s insistence in needing all these inane “facts” about everything related to him or the way his music sounds, it’s structure, the way it makes one ‘feel’, ad nauseam. His music is wayyy too much work to listen to, and ‘get’, if one is not a died in the wool Cook fan already. It’s a lot simpler than that – just make music that people find or sounds interesting to them, it helps to have an interesting or arresting image or visual to back up the music and voila! There is no buzz about this snippet anywhere other than Idol sites, so it seems David has his work cut out for him, again, to try and get some attention, buzz and sales for this song (the the album) from folk beyond Idol fans. It’s that simple.

  • Incipit

    “This snippet is the first time I hear a bit of a country sound in a Cook song.”

    Interesting, Ria. The people at Broken Record Magazine are kinda saying the same thing.

    >>?@BrokenRecordMag
    @lmc1121 @thedavidcook you can absolutely hear the #Nashville influence on the recording.

    I’m not familiar enough with any country music or Nashville influence to make the distinction, so I’ll take your word for it.

    BTW – absolutely agree about the melody writing.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Guest, why does your name keep changing from guest to klimat and back. MJ? Is there some kind of problem with the log in here? Some of my friends were saying they couldn’t get their passwords to work.

  • Guest

    I have no idea what’s going on. The Disqus format is nutz!

  • Incipit

    Thank you for your opinion, Klimat/Guest. Disqus is having fun rotating your ID – so not amusing.

    Yes, well – I have a basis for speculation, on the rare occasions I indulge in it – or it falls into WAG (Wild A$$ Guess) Territory, which wouldn’t interest me in the slightest. I was only looking for informed opinion, so just consider that I respectfully disagree with the rest of your post?

  • Ria_

    You should listen to Circadian and Rapid Eye Movement. His vocals are spectacular and no one would call them stripped down.

  • wordnerdarchie

    LOL! You’re back again klimat. That’s a lot better than being an anonymous guest! :)

  • dabney c

    Not bad. From this little snippet, I think I like it better than his last 2 singles. Definitely a touch of country and a lot of pop-rock. Still fairly generic stuff, though, and not a whole lot different than some of his other post-Idol stuff. Sounds like it might have a good hook, so if it manages to get radio play (what are the chances of that?) then it could catch on.

  • Guest

    Short of being a fly on the proverbial wall, sleeping or living with Cook and getting all the scoop and info in real time, I consider everything speculation, or Wild Ass Guessing, Ass talking or whatever your semantical pony may be. It’s all good, noone is going to view or hear or see the same thing in the same light, so agreeing to disagree is the only civil and adult response to take. My expectations admittedly are low for Cook’s comeback, but stranger things have and do happen.

  • roaringpen

    Does he plan to release this as a single? It sounds good, but not like a radio song to me.

  • Karen C

    I’m pretty sure that the reason for releasing the single now is to coincide with an Idol appearance. Probably within the next couple of weeks.

  • Karen C

    I think the fact that he has a fanbase that really gets his music more so than the general public shows that he is doing something different, and not stale. The challenge then is to increase the audience that would really like his music.
    Rather than conforming to what is popular, sometimes one can have an audience that probably doesn’t like what’s popular anyway.

  • Incipit

    So sorry, Cornucopia! I lost this whole section of the thread and couldn’t get back to your reply. Disqus playing Reindeer Games. Or something.

    Hey, I like your take on this message/medium thing, you put a lot of thought into the reasoning behind it – and I can’t completely disagree with you. I think in the beginning, David had no idea of the full nature of the impact – not discounting all those salacious signs held up at Axium gigs – Heh.

    But there seems to have been some cumulative realization of that “visceral effect” – I’m thinking of the December ’11 gig in NY at Irving Plaza and the “Tequila Talking” video – watching it, one can’t miss that he was aware that night.

    But I’ll never disagree with this:

    “…above all, the guy’s got to do whatever he wants to and feels is right. Period.”

    I’m a fan in the audience for the live performances, a customer of the music, not an amateur A&R person. IMO.

  • Brisblondie

    Loving this snippet more and more with each listen. It’s hooky and melodic, which I love. I’ve missed you, Mr. Cook!

  • Guest

    … singers and acts that subscribe to that philosophy end up relegated to the ”Whatever Happened To’? or ‘Where Are They Now” bins in music history. Cook may well be headed there, if he doesn’t have a real breakthrough musically that connects better with the public.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Ah Brisblondie, you made it in!

  • irockhard

    Octane is their modern hard rock station, they have other rock stations too: Alt Nation (modern alt rock), Ozzy’s Boneyard (classic rock & metal), Lithium (90s grunge & alt rock), Liquid Metal (all types of metal both classic and modern).

  • Karen C

    Or they become respected musicians with long careers without conforming necessarily to what is considered pop music.
    If all artists did conform, and didn’t take chances on their music, everything would pretty much end up sounding the same. Which is what was beginning to happen with pop music before the past year.

  • Ria_

    I love Rapid Eye Movement! That is such a great song. You are right, no radio station would play something like that now. At least none of them that I know. It’s radio’s loss.

  • justmefornow

    Yep. I tried them all and for me Octane has the right mix and the sound I prefer. I’ve haven’t really listened to anything other than satellite radio in a long time and it’s really spoiled me – no commercials, yeah!

  • wordnerdarchie

    I just realized that we having heard the line “laying me low” in the snippet. I wonder how it fits.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    Maybe there is a hook like with “Laying me low” in it? Just a thought.

  • Ria_

    @guest there aren’t really stations in the US now that are playing fierce ‘balls to the wall’ rock. Maybe there are some heavy metal stations out there still, but that would not be Cook’s genre at any time in his career. I expect him to have some heavier album songs, as he usually does. If he is playing with a band his live performances would probably describe what you are looking for. But no one should expect him to get a new ‘balls to the wall’ rock song on the radio any time soon.

  • Ria_

    Classic Rock, by definition, is not current. Cook is influenced by a lot of styles of music, including Classic Rock. You can hear it in a lot of what he does. But he is not going to put out a ‘Classic Rock’ album.

  • Brisblondie

    yes, yes I did. David’s lil snippet has me poking around the internets today. :) Have I mentioned I love said snippet? ;)

  • iani

    I agree that his fan-base didn’t grow too much in between the 2 albums, his management and label kept him stuck in that “current time”/situation of enjoying the right post idol fever and nothing more to invest in him for the next step, even artistically, and I was pretty vocal here about it. And I’ve seen in the last 2 years or so, after TLM album, he’s not done too much differently, same HAC/AC sounds with no choice of crossing over to other formats. The last snippets though is more than simple HAC, is country also to me, so, he might have a chance to be played on country format also? I hope so and I’d be OK with and it might do OK I think if he’d be promoted there, the song is not bad at all and from what I’ve heard country plays from traditional to rap and punk, nu-era country. I’m happy he’ll have new music out no matter what and where. I know his music is not the best, but is pleasant for my ear and hope in the future not to became like the Train’s guy looking like mummy and singing dummy music.

  • Guest

    All of Cook’s songs on TLM except TLG sounded the same to me – matter of fact, I think that was a Top 3 criticism from many about the album. I never know what Cook is trying to do – is he rock? TLSIWFY was classified as such on Itunes. Then he goes off and sings in a concert sponsored by the king of pop schlock, David Foster. Then he moves to Nashville. Gets ready to release a pop-rock single. What the heck is pop rock nowadays anyway? When he decides what sound, brand, style, whatever the heck you want to call it – whenever he decides and commits to something that is fresh, melodic and interesting, not dark or depressing or pretentious he may have a shot at attaining that long respected career musician moniker. Right now he’s just another singer trying to make it over. He’s already had a big shot at the big time. He needs to come with a song that has barrels blazing to get people to give him that 2nd shot.

  • Ria_

    @Guest, if you think Circadian, Right Here With You, Four Letter Word, and Goodbye to the Girl all sound the same, then maybe Cook’s music just isn’t for you. I do that with genres I don’t care for. I just don’t really listen and then to me it “all sounds the same” even if the songs are very different in structure, tempo, and instrumenation.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMyT1me Lori

    Huh? Are you saying that other labels won’t touch Cook because he has remained loyal to Idol, but Lee got a contract with an indie label because he’s not loyal to Idol? If so, that’s not even true. Lee will be the first to tell you, as he has so often tweeted and said in interviews, that he is very grateful and proud of his association with Idol. That he has only been asked back to perform once is not because Lee is not loyal. Nigel and present company were not around during Lee’s season and if anyone is not loyal, it’s them, not Lee.

  • Guest

    After hearing TLM, I’m inclined to agree that he’s trying to sell isn’t for me – or the mass buying public either. I’d hoped after getting dropped by RCA and going indie that would be a catalyst for him Shake It Up musically, throw the old playbook out the window, come back kicking ass, taking names. Not feeling this snip, like I didn’t feel TLG, FIM, TLM the album or TLSIWFY. He’s talented, has potential, but I’m beginning to think his time has past, if this is the best he’s coming back with.

  • suenigma
  • Ria_

    @Incipit that is very interesting! I think it is the pronunciation of some of the words that made me think of country the first few times I listened. At the end the way he draws out “no gooooood”, also at the beginning when he sings “I swear” and how he draws out the word “stroooong”. Maybe he is just speaking with more of a southern accent these days and I am picking it up listening to the song. I could hear a country artist covering this based on the snippet we have so far.

  • Incipit

    “whatever your semantical pony may be.”

    *Chuckle* Oh, that’s easy – my ‘Semantic Pony’ is the same Hobby Horse that Mark Twain used to ride. “The difference between the almost right word & the right word is really a large matter–it’s the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.”
    - Letter to George Bainton, 10/15/1888

    I don’t expect everyone to share that distinction, or mind if they consider it too much work. It may well ‘be’ too much work – perhaps everything looks like lightning bugs, and all the definitions seem the same. It can be hard on conversation, but that’s not a great tragedy.

    IMO. Of Course.

  • Cornucopial

    Hmm, you have an excellent point about his awareness of his effect in your two examples (and now that you mention it, I can think of others). But I think it may be more in the moment and somehow it doesn’t carry over into how he markets himself, or in how he chooses to use his voice. I rarely hear it as front and center.

    But for sure, I don’t profess at all to be doing A&R either, to say the least; just if I were him, I’d do it somewhat differently. it’s just my opinion and I think I’m likely in the minority. I like the guy, love his voice and a lot of his work. I’d be really, really happy to see him have a huge hit.

  • Guest

    Ever heard the BoxTops song “The Letter”?… I remember a music documentary a while ago with the gentleman who wrote the song. He was insistent that Alex Chilton sing the word airplane as air-o-plane or aeroplane – to his ear it just sounded better. The suits at the label thought differently, but he fought them, and won. I wonder how many so called word nerds or word snobs would have clutched their pearls at the bastardization of pronunciation, analyzed it to death, instead of just jamming and digging the perfection, the catchiness, the melody, the grit and soul in that little 3 minute song. All that to say… I don’t think many listeners care how or if words in a song are spelled correctly, pronounced correctly, know or want to know their genesis or origin, what time signature they’re in, etc – all that matters in the end is if something in your brain likes what it hears in what, a few nanoseconds after hearing it? If the brain isn’t taking all that time to analyze whether it likes or is responsive to what it hears, then why should I or anyone else work so hard overanalyzing lyrics, time signatures, etc? Seems kinda redundant and unnecessary, heh.

  • Incipit

    “…somehow it doesn’t carry over into how he markets himself, or in how he chooses to use his voice. I rarely hear it as front and center.”

    That strikes me as deliberate, Cornucopia – there’s an interview where David says he doesn’t ‘want’ to showcase his voice – he wants it to be like another instrument (paraphrasing – but I know where to look for that quote) and IDK if that’s humility or preferring the band entity to working solo, or not really appreciating the impact the voice can have – but here I agree with you. Vocals front and center are always remarked on by the fandom – and that seems to be something that they want more of, collectively. I don’t think you are in the minority at all. We can wish he would try that once or twice, see what happens – KWIM?

  • Ria_

    I do not think of any of those bands as being similar to Cook. I won’t call them metal because they are not. Lets just say they can lean that way. Cook has never done anything like what I think of when I think of those bands. A lot of comments in this thread are making more sense to me if that is the sound some fans were looking for. I don’t expect anything like that from Cook.

  • suenigma

    I get what you’re saying – music shouldn’t have to be parsed ad nauseum to be enjoyed. Music shouldn’t have to an intellectual exercise. But one person’s pretentious is another person’a poetry. I genuinely appreciate many of Cook’s lyrics – they are often intelligent and beautiful to me. Not always, but often. Lyrics and words in general are important to me. Perhaps overly so.

    For instance, I really liked Adam’s last album. It was fun, melodic and hooky, and there were even some great social messages, but oh man, some of the asinine lyrics! It prevented me from LOVING the album, even though I liked it a lot.

  • WehoScott

    I’ll weigh in. I love what I’ve heard in that half-minute. And although I’m a diehard Cook fan, I’m also a critical one. I did not love “The Last Song I’ll Write for You” and although I like “From Here to Zero” a lot my immediate reaction was “jeez, another ballad?!” But this one sounds like pure David Cook. Things I love about it: It’s up tempo, his vocal choices (“very “tm Cook” to go up on the word “strong”), and the horns in the chorus. I can’t wait to hear the whole song. David now has complete control of his creative endeavors and HE chose the snippet, and chose wisely: a bit of the verse, a bit of the chorus, and some nice vocal parts. This is what I’ve been waiting for :)

  • WehoScott

    Me too!

  • Incipit

    Oh, Guest/Klimat – that story, apocryphal or factual – is not a good example for your point… Alex Chilton was right, at 16. I was in my twenties when that song came out – and there was never any question of how the word ought to be pronounced. It needed to be pronounced aeroplane – (from the French – and an alternative pronunciation) so the line would scan and the rhythm wouldn’t stutter – and the Suits were a bunch of Philistines. In My Opinion, Of Course. Anyone who knows words, and appreciates them would know that.

    Chiton followed his own muse – his early commercial success was not repeated “in his indie music solo career on small labels, but he drew a loyal following in the indie and alternative music fields and is often cited as an influence by many mainstream rock artists and bands.” An opposite example to the ideal you were promoting a few posts ago.

    Guest/KlimatSome people just like to look at a treasure, of any kind – some people enjoy it more when they know the provenance. They are the ones who actually read the little card under the display in the museum, or they can tell you the lifetime batting average of a phenomenal hitter, or how long it will take their car to go from 0 to 80, even if they will never do it. It really doesn’t take their brains all that long, and it enhances their enjoyment of the subject.

    What matters about an experience is what matters to the individual having the experience. No one gets to tell them they are wasting time considering details, or conversely, going too fast and missing all the details, if the details don’t matter to them.

    I gather the provenance of a thing, experience, situation, doesn’t matter to you – that’s cool. Don’t analyze time signatures, scansions or work to appreciate the details of how your favorite artist built the music you enjoy, if that doesn’t appeal to you. Just listen to the music. Those of us who do enjoy doing that will keep right on doing it – while ‘we’ listen to the music…and none of us have to justify their preference. IMO. Of Course.

  • Valarie

    I like the snippet better than anything David has done since Analog Heart. It sounds like Daughtry and Tate Stevens somehow had a son together. :)

  • http://twitter.com/900Max Max

    Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen here today.

  • standtotheright

    There is no buzz about this snippet anywhere other than Idol sites

    Why would there be? It’s a 30 second sample on Amazon, not a video teaser, Soundcloud stream, or anything else. I follow a lot of music blogs and not even the hottest artists get coverage for the fact that someone found a sample pre-loaded on Amazon.

    I have no idea if I’ll like this song after it is released in full, I have no idea if there is any kind of XIX plan to draw a wider audience outside of an AI appearance, and I have no idea what, if anything, going forward is intended to reach mass media outlets. But I do have a pretty clear idea of how mainstream media outlets treat new singles: They write about them when there’s actually enough material to discuss.

  • justmefornow

    I didn’t mean to imply that those bands were like Cook, obviously they are much harder rock.
    I was just replying to a post about there being no new rock music on the radio. There is plenty of good new rock music being played but you pretty much have to go to satellite radio to hear it.
    This is just the type of rock I prefer and suggested it, that’s all.

  • tierbee

    Been a while since there’s been an active, chatty thread about my pony Mr. Cook. While I’m too tired and brain dead from trying to coach a herd of soccer-playing-ish 1st graders to really offer anything interesting, I did enjoy reading all the comments. @twitter-50298920:disqus I am hoping that even if you don’t love this one that you love the next one and that we get a show soon that you can actually come to so we can finally meet you :)

  • shenanigan

    Me too!

  • ksgirlfordc

    Not everyone expected David to be “rock-ish”. That was expectations from some “fans” talking and not David’s vision of his music. He apparently doesn’t think he’s “stuck in a rut” as he continues to make music and will continue to do music that makes HIM happy. If it becomes a hit, so much the better. If not, he’s being true to his muse, not the “fans”. He has never been one for the “celebrity” that some here thinks is necessary to be successful. Just because you aren’t in the tabloids or get radio play every hour on the hour, doesn’t mean you aren’t successful. If you are making a living doing what you love, then you are successful. I, for one, am extremely happy he doesn’t play follow the leader just to get airplay (most of the music on radio is crap) and is his own man. If some don’t like it, so be it. I don’t like a lot of the music that comes from past Idols, but I don’t go around constantly bad mouthing their music or trying to tell them what they should do to be successful. I listen to what I like and will support the artists I like. End of story and JMO.

  • justmefornow

    I’d just like to add, that it’s good to see a thread of over 160 comments about new rock music. Maybe the lack of it on Idol this year is feeding the interest for others like me disappointed with this season’s obvious omission.

    Rock on!

  • Karen C

    Not everyone is going to like a particular artist’s music, that doesn’t mean they can’t have a career in music.

  • Cornucopial

    Yes, I base my belief about him not focusing on his voice partly on the interview where he said that, as well as on a myriad of other interviews where he downplays his contribution. So yes, I agree, it’s deliberate. And I guess I feel that puts off some people. The minority I meant is less about his voice and more about the type of music he turns out and where he focuses his marketing.

    Yes, we can wish that his voice was unadorned. I’ll wish it right now. I’ve wished it before: David Cook, let your voice be central to at least some of your songs, let the overlay of instruments/reverb fall away and let your superb, amazing voice, and not fancy stuff, rule.

  • jan

    I like it – really like it. I think this could make for a fun upbeat performance – especially if Dave and/or band do the stomp-clap that we saw him do in a recent video snippet.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    A meta discussion on how or why a fan can or cannot appreciate music or express an opinion is OFF TOPIC. Please keep the discussion focused on David Cook and his new music.

    That every commenter has a right to their own opinion, that not everyone is going to like or appreciate the same things, that we all have our own approach to appreciating art is self-evident and 100% OFF TOPIC in this thread (and pretty much EVERY thread).

  • ksgirlfordc

    We don’t know if he does or he doesn’t. XIX Recording (and I’m assuming it’s a different part of SF’s XIX Entertainment) is the label of record so apparently something is in the works. That same label released Lisa Marie Pressley’ s last album with Universal Republic/XIX Recordings.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3QCEN56X7UY3H74AZCIO2VSJUY Kristie

    new single from david cook? WOO HOO!!!! :D

  • breakdown

    He will be performing this on Idol on May 2.

  • Karen C

    That’s wonderful !!! I had a feeling he would be on soon.

  • bearcatnat .

    I sure hope so! It seems to me that if the song is being released on April 30th, then a May 2nd appearance would be just PERFECT timing! : )

  • bearcatnat .

    RE: Incipit’s in depth comments on the drum beats, etc…my thought is this the clip we’re getting is really rather low quality, so it’s hard to assess the drums and backing music very well. In any case, it’s a very pop-ish song, which I don’t have a problem with. I’m a fan of rock, pop, soft rock, a little hard rock, even a bit of country. I know that David Cook won’t ever put out crap music, so I’m happy to be getting something new. The melody is addictive.

  • breakdown

    This is according to a co-writer of the song, Andy Waldeck.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Where did you see this? He didn’t tweet it.

  • bearcatnat .

    Of course, some performers have pre-taped appearances for Idol. That hasn’t been as much the case this year, but it’s always a possibility.

  • bearcatnat .

    I definitely am in love with Cook’s “esocteric” lyrics. Much of his pre-Idol work speaks to how good he is as a lyricist.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Ah, I see Andy’s FB posting that it is May 2. Thanks for the confirmation. :D
    And I’ll be on the fly-fly to Washington DC, Yikes!

  • bearcatnat .

    Yes, those stylish 19th century boots need a top hat to match!

  • bearcatnat .

    The font is a Tuscan Slab Serif style, and to be specific, it’s “Black Hawk”, available here: http://www.dafont.com/blackhawk.font?text=LAYING+ME+LOW
    Yeah, I’m a graphic designer, and fonts are my THING.

  • bearcatnat .

    Exactly! My dad constantly bemoans that “Rock is dead” because you just don’t hear true rock on the radio nowadays. It isn’t what the public seems to want. Popular artists are going softer, more folksy, more pop. Think of the huge success of current bands like Mumford & Sons and f.u.n. Last year’s Idol winner, Phillip Phillips has had great success with his folksy-pop song “Home”. Going in the hard rock direction in today’s music would be a mistake.

  • bearcatnat .

    I would HARDLY call TLM “dreck”. I’ve listened to that CD hundreds of times and absolutely adore the layers of sound and instruments on it, as well as the whole story arc of the album.

  • jan
  • http://twitter.com/900Max Max

    I will be watching that night, just to see Cook.

  • Incipit

    Why thank you, bearcatnat! I have a graphic designer in the family – but he’s away.

    So what do you think of using that font for the song title? It seems an odd choice, to me.

  • bearcatnat .

    Yes! That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to that epic top hat. : )

  • wordnerdarchie

    Where’s your excitement about the confirmation of the May 2 idol appearance by our David? ;)

  • Incipit

    Awww, that post is cute – love the level of enthusiasm from Andy Waldeck – and thanks for nothin’, Nigel – since we already have confirmation elsewhere. Keeps the streak going. Heh.

  • sd34567

    This isn’t rock. No way.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Good, you did see this, haha, I thought you were busy down below, so I sent you a flare at your previous spot of posting – didn’t know where you’d end up next – the thread has been getting all scrambled for me – had to clear my cache several times to calm it down, lol. Yay! Cook on Idol for the 5th year in a row!!!!

  • wordnerdarchie

    Now I don’t know. There are over 210 different kinds of rock. I’m sure Dave’s song can fit into at least one of those rock genres, don’t you think?

  • Happyhexer

    Not liking the production on this song. Hope they can tone it down so DavidC’s voice can shine like the jewel it is.

  • Incipit

    Hey, thanks – hard to find anything, the thread is Scrambled Eggs – but at least it has a little cheese sauce, Heh.

    May 2nd. This one calls for the actual TV to be turned on – *snerk* Check my theory that David was messing with us doing that Stomp/Clap – but since everyone learned it, he’ll save it for the gigs. Whatchu think?

    You will be on the fly-fly? R4H? Sweet. I’m virtual.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Yes, husband and I are heading for RfH, but hopefully our flight will be on time – at least enough for us to be settled into hotel just in time for Idol.

  • Incipit

    On the scrollaway – scrolled away. Hah!
    TY, TYVM.

  • springboard2

    The snippet sounds dated and mundane, much like his previous album, but snippets are not always representative of the whole song.

  • http://twitter.com/rascalete FrannieluvsDC

    I love the snippet, it has a completely different sound then the ‘poppy’ crap on the radio. Love his voice.I can’t wait to jear the whole song and album. That picture of him is awesome too! When will David Cook perform on American Idol?

  • irockhard

    I have to agree with you, at least it’s not what I consider real rock.

  • Karen C

    I agree, I think David’s music definately does fall into rock, actually pop rock and the softer side of alternative rock. The concerts with the full band are pretty much rock shows too.

  • Karen C

    That’s terrific !! Have a good time, are you going to the lunch?

    Kind of wonder if that’s why there’s no CFH, though.

  • http://twitter.com/LetMeLearnToFly Laying Me Low

    May 2nd!!First time I will watch this season ~ Only for David Cook! Can’t Wait!

  • wordnerdarchie

    Yes, we’re going to the lunch. My husband is a big fan of David, too. He hasn’t taken TLM out of his car’s CD player since it came out.

  • Karen C

    I only take my TLM cd out to put my DCTR cd back in :) Hopefully we’ll have another cd soon:)

    Also, Andy Skib was asked if he would be on with David, and he said he would.

    @andyskib holla! Yes I am. You gonna watch? / re: @XXXXXX: @andyskib…Are you gonna be on Idol with David Cook on May 2?

  • wordnerdarchie

    That vid was a teaser to the single news I think. I have no idea if there was any intent for it to be anything more. :)

  • justmefornow

    It’s not hard rock, no, but it’s certainly light rock, IMO. There are degrees of rock. P2′s music is listed as rock, so why not this? This wouldn’t be my personal favorite which is much harder, but it’s certainly better than the lame music represented this year on Idol. This I would at least tune in to hear.

    The group this year and their music is so far removed from what I listen to, combined with the boring vanilla type performances, I’ve tuned out and given up on the season. No interest whatsoever in who wins.
    That really was the point I was trying to make.

  • standtotheright

    Actually, most of those artists are charting on terrestrial radio as well. Octane~=Active rock. Alt Nation ~=Alternative. The Spectrum and the Loft both~=AAA. XMU~=college/indie rock.

    All of those stations have terrestrial counterparts across the country although one’s individual reception depends on metro area and signal strength.

  • Incipit

    Karen C, thanks for the Skib side Tweet – and very happy there are Loose Lips in Nashville – as someone at DCO said. *chuckle*

    Gotta Love the Cookistas, getting double confirmation there. Heh. Having fun spreading the news, and counting down til 5/02.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    LOL! I have determined there is some kind of curse with me and Idol-related shows… turns out I won tickets to last year’s Idol concert, which I would have LOVE to have seen… but I had abandoned the email account that the notice was sent to, so I missed out. That and I never actually use my Twitter account which got another notice. I officially give up. SMH.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Now Devin B. has also confirmed he will be joining Andy & Dave on idol.

  • Incipit

    Ahh. Devin B has confirmed too. Very good to know. The Evil Snippet didn’t begin to let us see what the musical arrangement will be like, but Devin brings some fine skillz to the partay…I hope they don’t have to tape – because of the time crunch being at R4H activities.

  • mmb

    So I was right about a Cook Idol appearance? lol great! always happy to see him on my tv. Listened to the snippet a few times. I kinda like it. Definitely hear a little country influence. Imo it sounds pretty similar to most other Cook songs — not a departure of any kind — but it sounds pretty good to me. I won’t make any predictions re hit potential, etc.or whether its intended for radio — Is Fuller’s new label even set up for radio promotion etc.? Who knows. But I’ve no doubt Cook was under a lot of pressure to have something new ready for this Idol season. Props to him for getting something done and happy for his fans that they get new tunes and a tv performance

  • wordnerdarchie

    And here comes band member #3

    @nickadamsdrums: @frozenat17 awwww yeah / In response to: @frozenat17 @nickadamsdrums Will I be seeing you on TV soon? Maybe on May 2?

  • Incipit

    Cool! So curious about the drum patterns for this – and always love the musical conversations David writes for the rhythm section to have with the lead guitar.

    I guess folks can stop asking Nigel if DC will be on? Ya think? *Chuckle*

  • Eileen99

    Good for Cook, looking forward to seeing how this does for him.

  • tierbee

    Haha, oh no, have to exorcise the hoodoo ;)

  • Karen C

    Good, I hope David shows up too :)

  • Karen C

    On listening to this snippet more, I’ve been thinking that there is something to David’s music that I really like. I think with every album he has shown growth, but there is something about his writing that is a common thread, even though the songs are in a different style. This snippet sounds different than what we’ve heard before, yet I can tell that he wrote it. And it’s more than just him singing it, because I’ve heard this in music he’s written for others.
    Can’t wait to see him on Idol.

  • wordnerdarchie

    It’s nice that his band members (all but Monty Anderson) have responded to tweets that they will be on Idol on May 2, so not much of a rumor anymore. Now fans are just waiting for Dave to officially announce it. :D

  • girlygirl

    I think David has performed on Idol every year since he won, hasn’t he? As I posted earlier, I wasn’t feeling this song from the snippet, but I’m looking forward to seeing David perform it live. Always good to see him perform. :)

  • jmg887

    I’ll be forever stunned how anyone can get a complete and full picture of musical direction based on one 30 second snippet but more power to you, lol. I’ve given it a few more listens since it was released and I don’t hear anything that is a carbon copy of what we’ve heard before but can absolutely tell this is a Cook song. Make sense? I’m looking forward to the live performance…we need some WGWG action on Idol, heh ;)

  • Karen C

    I think it sounds very radio friendly, and current. It fits into what kind of rock is being released now.

  • bearcatnat .

    That’s funny! I tweeted David a similar teasing question asking if we’d see him May 2nd. No response. Keeping it under his hat.

  • Karen C

    Yeah, I kind of wonder if this was supposed to be announced yet, usually it isn’t this far in advance. That’s maybe why there hasn’t been anything official yet.

  • bearcatnat .

    Yes he has! Which is why I’ve been sad that he wasn’t on yet this year. I thought for sure he would appear when they had “rock” week. So happy that I won’t be disappointed. The further you get towards the finale, the better that appearance is for promotion.

  • bearcatnat .

    Hey tierbee and justmefornow…did you repost these comments? My computer says they are from “a few seconds ago”, but I clearly read both of these last night! Weird!

  • Karen C

    I don’t hear anything that is a carbon copy of what we’ve heard before but can absolutely tell this is a Cook song. Make sense?

    Definately makes sense to me :) I can tell by the snippet that :

    #1 I like it and will buy it

    #2 Can tell it’s different than what we’ve heard before

    #3 But can still tell it’s his song
    So the snippet was effective for me :)

  • http://twitter.com/Heidijoy5 Heidijoy

    Not liking the Over production on the song. Look forward to the LIVE performance. Let the singing be more in the forefront!! Good for him on his yearly performance on Idol. so glad they are bringing other Idol contestants on this year.

  • Incipit

    I think David has performed on Idol every year since he won, hasn’t he?

    Yeah, he has, girlygirl, every year since 2008, sometimes more than once in a season.

    I think by the time they get to the Finale, Idol will have brought back someone from every season – but they still have a few to go.

  • bearcatnat .

    It looks like a little Nashville inspiration to me. I’m personally in love with Tuscan Slab Serif fonts (better known as “Western”), so I’m digging it.

  • Incipit

    Usually it isn’t so far in advance, true, Karen C – but that never made a particle of sense to me – the artist and the show both benefit from more eyes – which a little PR and a bit more lead time would seem to be good for. IMO.

    But Idol often has me saying WTF? – so that’s nothing new. And the Cook News Network is willing to do advance publicity, even if Idol PTB are not interested. So, yeah.

  • wordnerdarchie

    This song is all about the beat – can’t hide that, lol. His voice is in the forefront too, which is nice. Kudos to the producer of this little track. :)

  • irockhard

    LOL I call P2′s Home, Mumford & Sons, Lumineers, ect. what it really is – contemporary folk. There’s nothing rock about that stuff, it’s way closer to country music if you ask me.

  • irockhard

    Too much stuff that is not rock get’s called rock. I make things easy for myself: if you can argue against it being rock then it’s not real rock, but if you can’t then it is.

  • iani

    It’s nice that his band members (all but Monty Anderson) have responded to tweets
    It is his old band-members with Devin and Nick or the one that helped him with the new single? Thanks!

    ETA: I stay on “new first” and now I see/read the old posts. So, the old band, yey!!!

  • H.A.

    I had no doubt that Cook would have been on Idol even if Fuller made him sing a cover. Glad that he had his own music ready and excited that fans are excited. It’s been too long seeing Cook on TV.

  • Incipit

    “It looks like a little Nashville inspiration to me.”

    Ok, bearcatnap, The penny dropped. “…better known as Western.” That font was almost giving me 1890′s vibes – but it wasn’t so staid as Victorian fonts tend to be – I just needed to drop back another decade or two.

    It’s about the blend between Nashville and DC’s Mid Western and West Coast influences in other music, I think…because Graphic Designers always pick things for a variety of reasons, only one of which is ever ‘it looked good’ – In My Experience, anyway. Yes?

    Each of the previous albums had an extended leitmotif in the lyrical references – curiously awaiting what this one will use.

    And my curiosity thanks you! *wink*

  • Nadine_Bitch

    They have brought back an Idol or Idols from every season except season 6 and 8. I suppose Jordin will be on but not so sure about season 8. Adam had already implied that he won’t be there because he has nothing to promote, so, maybe Kris(to do some great Idol moment like Clay did)?

    Any words on who will be performing this Thursday?

  • Incipit

    It’s both, iani, The Anthemic guys and the guys in Nashville who have also been working with DC, co-writing and playing on the single. And the drummer at Quad Studios, Kevin Murphy, plays for Tonic – who opened for David and the Boyz on the Declaration Tour a bunch of times in 2009 – as usual with DC, it’s circles within circles.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I forgot about Casey. Season 9. Check.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Jordin was in the audience last week and Ryan exchanged pleasantries with her, so maybe that’s her “appearance”?
    I’m hoping Kris will be on – but it would have to fit in with his current “Out Alive Tour”, so it could be difficult.

    I think this will be Dave’s 7th performing appearance since Season 7.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tricia.miner.1 Katelyn Garrett

    Wow nearly 240 comments and nothing about the hair. What has become of this fandom?

  • Incipit

    Haven’t heard anything about who is scheduled this week coming, Nadine_Bitch, and I wonder if Idol counts having Jordin and Taylor in the audience as ‘bringing them back’? Lame, but they might. That would cover Season 6.

    Adam or Kris ought to get a nod for Season 8, IDK that Kris has anything new to play either – but he’s touring, and able to be playing his guitar again…which is cool. What about 9?

  • wordnerdarchie

    Well, he’s sporting that combed back look that I’ve seen hitting other celebs, like Justin Timberlake. Not much to discuss I guess. ;)

  • Nadine_Bitch

    I checked Kris’ calendar and his tour will end on April 28, so, yeah, there’s still a chance for him.

    And David performed 7x already? I think He and Carrie have the most appearances on AI.

  • jdanton2

    Ryan said something about seeing Jordin in a few weeks so maybe a performance or just being at the finale.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Kris’ tour will end on April 28, so, he still have the chance.

    And they already had Casey James for season 9.

  • Karen C

    Yeah, too bad, I guess I’ll discuss his music if I have to ;)

  • Incipit

    Right, I had a moment there – and forgot CaseyJ came on for Season 9.

    It would also be cool if Jason Castro came on for Season 7, he has a new record – IDK about Brooke or Carly.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I saw this on Kris’s site:
    04/30/13
    Pawtucket, RI
    Buy Tickets

    05/01/13
    New York, NY
    Buy Tickets

    05/01/13
    New York, NY
    Buy Tickets

    05/02/13
    Wilmington, DE
    Buy Tickets

    05/03/13
    Hanover, MD
    Buy Tickets

  • Karen C

    I figured he’d do From Here to Zero, and release it as a single, which I still like. But Laying me Low sounds very good too.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Oh, that’s right, I had forgotten about that.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Yeah, he’s been on a lot. Simon Fuller has certainly backed him. He’s done CBTM, Permanent, Jumpin Jack Flash, The boot song, TLG, and TLSIWFY, so this next appearance will be #7.

  • Karen C

    I’m glad he is still with the same band. I was beginning to wonder since only Andy was there for the acoustic performances. Though there was a time a few months ago that they all went to Nashville at the same time.

  • Karen C

    So if Kris does go on, it will probably be on 5/10, or the finale. Not sure if it will happen though.

    They still haven’t announced who will be on this week, though.

  • Karen C

    Since David was on the show, he actually has appeared 2X a year through last year, when he was only on once. I think that is among the most

  • http://twitter.com/frazzledsoul K

    One usually needs a major label to get radio play. I don’t know that “XIX Recordings” has enough influence to get him on the radio, unless they have created a new record label that no one has heard of. I’m really curious as to how so many people think he is going to get radio play for *any* song without a label.

    As far as not needing radio play because he has built up his own dedicated fanbase through touring – well, he hasn’t done any of that in a very long time, choosing instead to focus on high-paying foreign gigs and highly exclusive charity events. Apparently he can get an Idol spot any time he wants one, but I have a feeling if he wants a high-profile career again (big if), it’s going to take more just throwing this song out there after an Idol appearance.

  • girlygirl

    Kris’ tour actually ends May 3. He could come on Idol and perform “Paul Simon” or “Unique” (the 2 new songs he’s doing on tour) but I don’t know if he would, since there doesn’t seem to be a plan to release them anytime soon (I’m guessing both will be on the next album). Adam could come perform something from Trespassing, of course, or Allison could come on with her new band :)

  • Karen C

    I think the only one from Season 8 that has new music coming out is Allison, that would be great if they had her new band on.

  • Karen C

    Carly is working on an album with We are the Fallen, and Brooke had an album as a duo called Jack and White, they had an album come out in the past year.

    David Archuleta did have an album come out but he is still on his mission.

  • Incipit

    “Though there was a time a few months ago that they all went to Nashville at the same time.”

    Yeah, and Andy Skib and his bride moved to Nashville around Christmas time, in the beginning of March a picture was taken of David at Ida Red Boutique, the Merch store for Cain’s Ballroom in Tulsa – and at the end of March, Monty, the drummer was hanging in Nashville w/David after a song-writing marathon…

    They show up anywhere. Heh. We don’t know the half of what these guys have been up to musically, lately – but I’m hoping the next album will give us an idea.

  • wordnerdarchie

    But Adam has said he’s not performing on idol this year, so he’s out from Season 8. I see Allison has been mentioned, that would be really cool to see her again.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Oh, sorry. I checked his schedule on Live Journal. I think it’s not updated: http://krisallenmedia.livejournal.com/

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Sorry,I think this site has not updated his calendar: http://krisallenmedia.livejournal.com/

    But there’s still a chance for him on the 9th. And yeah, it would be awesome to have Allison and her band on, or Adam;)

  • Incipit

    “I don’t hear anything that is a carbon copy of what we’ve heard before but can absolutely tell this is a Cook song. Make sense?”

    Makes perfect sense to me jmg887…if this is a CC, someone could say which song it’s a CC of – but they haven’t. I have every other song, never heard this one before. Meanwhile, DC fans weren’t fooled by Windy, so we have known what his ‘sound’ is for a few years.

    I had to *chuckle* at your point #1, Karen C – it’s already in my Wish List shopping basket on Amazon, ready to convert to a sale the instant that is possible.

  • Incipit

    David hasn’t said a word, but he didn’t have to – the Boyz have all answered without him having to speak about it before Idol did.

    Monty is the last to check in – also Aye-firmative:

    >>@montyanderson
    To those asking on the twit..Yep I will be on Idol May 2nd with Dave and the guys. Looking forward to it, and hanging with the guys.

    Since they’re gonna be on Idol – all they have to do is remind David to show up. *snerk*

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.goes Chris Goes

    Best News Ever !! The whole world was missing so badly see David and his amazing voice and talent back on TV and listen another of his musical masterpieces !!! Cannot wait to May 2nd.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    That’s terrible. Doesn’t anyone tell him the truth about these songs?? This isn’t good.

  • ladymadonna

    Love that swingy horn-section in the counter-melody. Love that good old whiskey rasp in his voice. Love the cover art. That’s about all I’m willing to take away from a snippet other than that it more than whet my appetite for the whole thing. Not surprised by the Idol performance at all, but nice to have it all but confirmed without having to wait for next Thursday’s press release.

    Definitely intrigued by the XIX Recordings designation. Looking forward to see how that situation develops, and what it may mean to promo and distribution.

  • songsungblue

    I like David Cook, he seems smart and talented. But none of his material – this included – shows off his obvious chops. It feels kind of dated.

  • Incipit

    You’ve listed many of the things I’m so curious about, ladymadonna – the horns, the strings, the drumming, the verses, the rest of the lyrics, because the sample sounds great – but David already has me well and truly hooked with just a few lines, and that “good old whiskey rasp in his voice”. It’s got a great beat, and you can dance to it? (dated reference to Bandstand)

    Now the XIX Records designation – very interesting. Some folks are already digging to see if they can find how that operates – what it actually entails – and if it is anything like the projected set-up that Simon Fuller talked about a few years back – I can locate the press release from that, if it becomes relevant.

  • wordnerdarchie

    LOL! The same could be said about every other musician if you live long enough – there’s very little new in music that hasn’t been done sometime in the last several centuries. I had the same reaction to Kelly, Carrie, Adam, Haley, just to name a few and I could go on. What goes around comes around, unless some new means of instrumentation is invented.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marjanaisweird Aakash Mansukhani

    It would be great to see Kris perform Heartless again. That would shoot up the ratings too! haha

  • http://twitter.com/Rellen2 Rellen2

    Clips are deceiving. I have lots to say but will withhold judgement. Well maybe I’ll say a few things. It has a more bluesy style in insturmentation and vocalization then I’d ever thought I’d hear from Cook not in concert and not a cover. Maybe a cross between a Sara Barellis/Gavin Degraw style single? Being honest this will get no radio play or big sales but really if you can’t experiment and add dance rythyms or dubstep to your song you ain’t gettin no play anyway. See Imagine Dragons, Fall Out Boy & Muse’s current charting songs for examples. But this is Cook and you know I love his voice and he generally doesn’t seem to listen to anyone but himself. I would die to hear him sing and write with more blues inspired rhythms like he did in concert with the Dogman, Led Zep and Adele covers. But if that’s not what inspires him what can you do. Guys got a great voice no question to me. Writing and production have just never synced up with regards to the public.

  • Goodvibes27

    I like David Cook and voted for him, and continue to like everything he has put out. To me he has a very distinct sound in his recorded music that to my ears seems very consistent. I’m not a super invested fan of his, but to me this is clear that this is his sound, whether it is “current” “commercial” is not a thing with me. I just find it pleasant to listen to.

  • jpfan2

    It’ll be interesting to see how much of his very large Idol fan base Cook has retained (plus how many new fans he can get into his music.) If he can sell enough music to the folks that still like him he’ll probably be okay even if his new stuff isn’t current or commercial.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I always like to listen to snippets of new music from artists, even if they might not be my thing. The music sounds sort of generic to me, not bad necessarily. Guss I know when I my snack break will be during American Idol that night lol. As far as the cover art, I have that font on Photobucket. hehe

  • lizland

    I like it from the snippet. I hope he plays with some energy on the show. The last few times he’s been on he seemed kind of low energy and uncomfortable.

  • justmefornow

    I actually agree with you on those bands. I mean, banjos and rock? just no, lol.

    But all their music is still listed as some form of rock today, which is kind of silly, but the term itself is now very,very broad.
    Somewhere In that broad spectrum could be Cook’s music as well.

  • FinalFantasy13

    I liked it.. to me david cook is the most underrated winner.. People group him in with the rest of the WGWG but unlike most of the others he actually deserved to win his season.

  • ladymadonna

    Yes the obvious question is if/how this may dovetail into the Blackwell Fuller venture that was announced in 2011. That whole partnership is still very murky, and beyond their bid for the EMI catalog I’ve seen little about it since the initial press release and Billboard piece.

    It did seem at the time it was announced that the intention was to focus on established legacy artists, with the possibility of branching the model out to develop newer artists later. Maybe that has changed. But the concept of a boutique artist management company directly financing the artist/project in lieu of a traditional record label seems to be in line with Cook’s ethos and current situation. And knowing how loyal the Fuller/Cook relationship has been over the years, it wouldn’t surprise me if they are taking a hybrid “indie” approach with Fuller acting as the bank.

    I do hope XIX’s publicists line up some good industry (or Idol) press so we can get some greater insight into how Cook is approaching his career at this stage. MJ, how about an exclusive interview to get the scoop?

  • jpfan2

    I don’t think Cook was underrated. He was a very popular winner who sold a ton of albums. But he kind of vanished and his 2nd album flopped. He was the first WGWG to win the show but at the time that wasn’t considered a bad thing.;0

  • girlygirl

    It’s all subjective, of course, but in my opinion, all of the so-called WGWGs deserved to win his season. I’m not a fan of all of them, but they are all very talented.

  • girlygirl

    He performed a new original single the last time he was on AI, and it didn’t sell particularly well after his performance from what I remember. That single didn’t even end up getting sent to radio,did it?. So it will be interesting to see if his management team has a different plan this time around. There are a lot of unanswered questions about this right down, such as, is this going to be a stand alone single, or is it the 1st single off his next album?

  • jan

    I second this idea. MJ? Interview?

  • Incipit

    LOL I call P2′s Home, Mumford & Sons, Lumineers, ect. what it really is – contemporary folk. There’s nothing rock about that stuff, it’s way closer to country music if you ask me.

    If you asked me too – I would also call it Folk music, P2 and the rest are no rockers – that’s a joke. Folk singers, Shoe Gazers, but not rockers. Still, the truth is, according to the Industry people, there is NO Rock. There’s just a few random acts with the name attached who don’t even play an electric guitar, let alone turn it up to 11. If I pay any attention, it just aggravates the Pure T hell out of me – so I ignore their foolishness, for the most part.

    Exceptl Last year, the American Music Awards could only nominate in a Pop/Rock category – because, once again, there was NO Rock, and the people they nominated? Sweet Merciful Mother Machree – this was rock of any kind?

    FAVORITE ALBUM – POP/ROCK
    • Justin Bieber /Believe
    • Maroon 5/Overexposed
    • Nicki Minaj/Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded
    • One Direction/Up All Night

    So, Bieber, Adam Levine, Nicki Minaj and One Direction are the best they can do for rock? Oh, I forgot, also Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Rihanna, Flo Rida, Pitbull and Usher. According to the AMA – these are what Pop/Rock sound like. Pitbull and Usher. And Flo Rida.

    Forgive me – but I’ve been listening to rock music of all kinds, degrees, and types since the 1950′s – and that makes me sick. There isn’t even a language anymore, if we are reduced to saying “Real Rock” to try to illustrate the difference!!

    And there is no line any more, no place I would believe that can define Rock, or even what I thought was Pop/Rock, for the listening public, in the face of that Gigantic, Massive Stupidity.

    So any artists who want to play rock nowadays are already screwed, by Corporate Radio, by PD’s, by Awards Shows, by the rules of the PTB, and the boxes they want people in… they will be advised to make it “current” throw in some dub step – follow the formula that radio PD’s like. And I’m not going to help screw them further by playing Reindeer Games with the definitions of the genre, or any of its subsets. I’ve been to six DC concerts since 2009, and they were all rock concerts. That’s not even open to question. They were also packed houses, so some someones appreciate the genre.

    TPTB can Bite me, with their definitions of Rock – Including the Guardians of the Genre, they have become calcified, ossified coprolites. Rock isn’t regimented, it isn’t formula, and it doesn’t follow any one’s rules, including ours, but It has parameters of its own – and people of its own…this much I know.

    (end /rant)

    Just My Opinion

  • http://twitter.com/mainedcfan1 Kelly B.

    I love the snippet of the new song by David Cook and can’t wait to buy it on April 30th and hear the whole song! I’ve loved all his music so far, so I can’t wait for the new CD. Also, he’s going to be on Amer. Idol on Thurs., 5/2! Woohoo!!

  • YankeeFan08

    I don’t think Cook was underrated at all. I voted for him throughout his season. The problem for me though is I haven’t liked his post-Idol music. I will say though that he is by far my fave WGWG. He has a great voice. I don’t really care for any of the other WGWGs.

  • Incipit

    Exclusive Interview? Yes, could you? You two have met, mj – and there will be interviews around the Idol Finale, there always are – I like the idea – an interview without inane, repetitive questions. What a concept.

    But there are likely no answers yet to the question of the Boutique Artist Management Model that Fuller seemed to be after, and whether there is any intention of incorporating service to radio in this deal that David has with Fuller now – or overseas distribution, etc – - there’s a lot of questions with no answers yet.

  • Karen C

    I think he is underrated, because he had so much success the first album, and even though the second wasn’t as successful, that shouldn’t take away from the success of the first one. He still is one of the most successful male winners of Idol.

  • http://twitter.com/NyCArole426 NyCArole

    I hope this New song is HUGE and David Cook finally gets the recognition he so deserves, as the accomplished musician, songwriter and platinum selling artist he iS!

  • TheOther

    I don’t think David Cook was under rated at all. He deserved to win, just as did the other 10 winners. WGWG is perceived as a negative only in the Idol bubble. It is actually badge of honor when I think of the ton of money Phillip has made from writing most of his CD (as did Cook with his debut). And then there is the John Mayer gig.

  • supersonic

    Are you saying that Lee deserved to win his season? If so, totally disagree with that.

    Same with Phillip.

  • supersonic

    All I can say is that I like the boots that he’s wearing on the cover there. Because this song? I don’t know.

  • Indigobunting

    Aw, David Cook is my favorite Idol winner ever and the first contestant I really voted for.
    But nothing he has done since has greatly appealed to me. I bought his first album but was hoping for something more exciting on the second, which I didn’t buy.

    This snippet sounds like his last material, but snippets are deceiving, it’s true.
    Looking forward to seeing him perform on Idol and I hope I like the whole song more.

  • Karen C

    I think it’s the first single off the album, but we’ll see.

  • overthetop1

    I agree about both. I really liked the snippet, and he didn’t do very well when he was on singing Don’t Forget About Me or Ticket To Ride (is that the Beatles song he came back to sing? Or was it DayTripper?)

  • TheOther

    But they won and that can’t be changed. I’m sure there are those who think Carrie Underwood didn’t deserve it. Ditto for Kelly Clarkson. The true winner is the person who is the top seller in their season. Like David Cook, Phillip is the top seller of his season. Same with Scotty, Jordin, Fantasia.

  • sunchick

    *runs into thread* Wait, what? I don’t watch AI anymore and sometimes lurk here for the occasional Glee spoiler… Holy crap! It’s alive! Bout damn time. I don’t have it in me to listen with a critical ear yet because its new and its Cook and Circadian is still my default ringtone so….yeah. Hi guys.*runs out*

  • DragonFly

    Honestly do like the snippet so far. Found myself ping ponging w/totally opposite comments which is getting to be commonplace lately at what a successful path is for multi-talented Idols.

  • Ria_

    The Last Song I’ll Write For You was not a single for radio. That performance was a year ago and he did not have an album ready to start promoting. As I recall The Last Song I’ll Write for You sold as well off the performance as any other Idol performance that was for a song that was not being pushed to radio at the time it was performed.

  • Incipit

    (is that the Beatles song he came back to sing? Or was it DayTripper?)

    Neither, overthetop. On rather short notice, Idol asked David back for the Results Show of Rolling Stones week in Season 9 – maybe because none of the contestants did anything uptempo, IDK. But he came in with a version of “Jumping Jack Flash” – and that was VERY uptempo.

    If you really think David and the band didn’t do well with it, you are entitled to that opinion – but the boards, blogs and forums that covered the show that night were very complimentary, according to the archives.

    Now, the Season 10 Boot Song “Don’t You Forget About Me” had to be shortened and pretaped because as usual, Idol had timing problems – - the guys did the best they could. The sliced version from the show can be played next to the single, to see what they had to cut to fit, which was most of the best part at the end.

    Your recollection of that may be that they didn’t do very well, but The Internet didn’t seem to mind – the most common reaction was “Where’s the number to vote for David Cook?” There’s a page of comments in the archive.

    And iTunes had a glitch that night which uncovered the bump for the music that the Top 2 used – the actual Boot Song cover was higher than the performance songs covered by Scotty and Lauren – and ToML showed up to Bookend the evening – so I would say David did OK.

    5/25/2011 – iTunes Bump:

    210. Maybe It Was Memphis – Pam Tillis – Lauren
    244. Flat On the Floor – Carrie Underwood – Lauren
    330. Check Yes or No – George Strait – Scotty
    348. Gone – Montgomery Gentry – Scotty
    658. Like My Mother Does – Kristy Lee Cook – Lauren

    182. Don’t You (Forget About Me) – David Cook
    694. The Time of My Life – David Cook

    None of these songs were in the top 1000 yesterday. ~PB Archives

    It’s handy to hit up the archives any time I need some facts, rather than trust my recollection from two or three years ago.

  • Incipit

    Ria, you recall the circumstances correctly, and the song did fine! Eilonwy has stats and a median number for songs with those parameters. The median for sales was 15,400. Brian Mansfield reported on Idol Chatter:

    David Cook’s first post-RCA single, The Last Song I’ll Write for You, debuted with 15,000 sales after his results-show performance.

    And I promise not to post another number – but that’s the fact that supports your recollection.

  • irockhard

    You see now you just explained why my own definition for what I consider real rock is so rigid.

  • Incipit

    I did? I must have missed that part, irockhard. But I suppose we each have our own definitions – what they have in common is neither includes folk music. Or maybe there’s more –

    How do you feel about the word “Rootsy”?? For some unknown reason, it torques my jaws applied to music. It doesn’t really mean anything specific. Which roots? The roots of Rhythm and Blues? The roots of Rock – is that like Rock-a-billy? What does Stride piano turn out to be the roots of? You know, like that.

    Every kind of music has roots. Rock has roots, is that rootsy too?

    So, why ‘is’ your definition so rigid?

  • wordnerdarchie

    Since hair seems to finally be a non-factor, maybe we can discuss……. his watch. :D

  • http://twitter.com/eric_ascher Eric Ascher

    As a massive David Cook fan who has seen him live three times, I must say that I am absolutely thrilled he is releasing music now. Welcome back Mr. Cook!

  • Jordana33

    The term “WGWG” was created, not as a criticism of the actual musician (I actually have tons of respect for Cook and Kris Allen), but as a criticism of Idol viewers who have a tendency to pick musicians of that demographic over anyone else, regardless of talent. The fact that some would see it as a “badge of honor” just reiterates that point.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    HA!

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    Daviddddddd Cook! Hmmm…I think I’ve missed him since he broke Idol. Not crazy about the song clip. Really can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

  • escape

    It’s a Catch-22. David Cook probably gave some of the strongest performances on Idol. But he’s been so strongly identified with that, that he has never been able to move beyond it. I get where this snippet sounds like a repeat of what he’s done before.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Hmm, as one who has listened to his music (from Axium, through AH, DCTR, and TLM) this sounds totally different from what he’s been doing in the past. I guess we as listeners focus on and hear different things in the song. Vocally, yea it’s the same DC, but the musical style is totally different to my ears. If you were hoping for dubstep or some kind of techno-dance pop, that was never going to happen, lol.

  • Karen C

    It does sound very different than what we’ve heard befor, but I still hear something other than just his voice, though that’s probably the main thing. Maybe it’s his wording and melody, also his phrasing. Though I do like his covers too. Maybe it is his vocals.

  • TheOther

    Who is more talented, etc. it’s all subjective. Viewers are allowed to vote for whoever they want. That’s always been the premise of the show. My point about badge of honor – I don’t see WGWG as a negative. It would be hard pressed to find a block of fans that are fans of ALL 5 of the last winners. I only like 2 of them. But that doesn’t mean the other 3 did not deserve to win. They have their fans.

  • Cookiebr7

    I am glad to hear new music from David Cook. I will wait to hear the entire song before I comment on the snippet. I supported David when he competed on Idol but unfortunately, I never liked the music he released since then. I did buy his albums, though, to support him, as I feel he is very talented. I hope he does well in all his future endeavors. I did see somewhere that he was number ten on the list of best Idol earners, so he must be doing fine.

  • wordnerdarchie

    And now (finally) we have confirmation from David.

    David Cook @thedavidcook #LayingMeLow pic.twitter.com/UZBxTVJ5mF

  • Incipit

    Just saw that at DCO, wordnerdarchie. I wondered what he was waiting for – but then I saw Lee’s post about singing “Silver Lining”this Thursday…Looks like it was simply protocol – letting Lee announce the nearer date first. Officially, anyway.

    Or maybe not – but the message is cute!

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    Yes, but this isn’t even up to the standard of “comes around, goes around.” It’s never going to make it around. He’s a good singer, he deserves better material.

  • bearcatnat .

    Leitmotif! Wow, aren’t you the true word nerd? ; ) I had to look that one up, as I’ve heard it before but couldn’t remember the meaning. To enlighten others: “A leitmotif (pron.: / ? l a? t m o? ? t i? f /) is a musical term referring to a ‘short, constantly recurring musical phrase.” Yes, David Cook is quite good at that!

    Yes, you’re right that graphic designers often have lots of influence for why they chose a certain font or color or image.

  • matt89

    Can’t wait for this. Sounds like David is finally able to do the music he wants to do