American Idol Nominated for 8 Emmys

So now they can lose 8 times?

So tell me how does Ryan get nominated but Kat doesn’t?

i hope they get at least one.

Hey, the Emmys don’t agree with me. Bruce Gowers got an Emmy nomination for the Final 3 episode. Eh? Was he significantly better that episode?

I pray that they don’t win anything related to DIRECTING. How can I forget the number of times the show went to overtime, etc? Though Ryan Seacrest should win for best host.

Cat Deeley snubbed again in the host category?? That’s a travesty.

So what shows are 821, 833 (rock week, rat pack?) from AI? :s

AI got a lot of nominations for a season where its production had huge problems.

Amen to that, LadyM. Cat should have gotten a nomination.

So who is the competition?

Let’s look at the major two categories that will likely be announced on the show:

Outstanding Reality – Competition Program

The Amazing Race
American Idol
Dancing with the Stars
Project Runway
Top Chef

Well, The Amazing Race has won this category ever since it was created. 6 times. Have the Emmy voters gotten tired of ticking off this one or will Bertram Van Munster find another episode featuring camels to send in (LOL, I love The Amazing Race). DWTS will also put forth a strong challenge.

Outstanding Host for a Reality or Reality-Competition Program:

The Amazing Race – Phil Keoghan
American Idol – Ryan Seacrest
Dancing With the Stars – Tom Bergeron
Project Runway – Heidi Klum
Survivor – Jeff Probst
Top Chef – Padma Llakshmi and Tom Colicchio

This award was created last year and won by Probst (I think that was kind of a nod to him being the first major reality show host star), but Survivor didn’t even get nominated for best reality show (competition) so perhaps the voters will want to spread some love around. The fact that Phil was not nominated last year was shocking to many considering how many times his show has won (and his great eye-brow pop), but he does only show up for a few minutes every show. I couldn’t help but notice that Tom’s co-host did not get nominated (nor should she be), but sharing hosting duties might hurt Tom’s chances. Ryan could stand a chance here. He and Tom are the only ones who host a live show and Ryan does it by himself. He’s also hosted the Emmy’s before (and people have probably forgiven him for that by now).

So what shows are 821, 833 (rock week, rat pack?) from AI? :s

I’ve just updated the post with those episode names. 821 is Country night and 833/834 is Rat Pack week.

refresh my memory

what songs did people do (besides Adam) for Country and Rat Pack?

I can only remember Ring of Fire and Feeling Good

woo-hoo! Dmitry was nominated for choreography!

refresh my memory

what songs did people do (besides Adam) for Country and Rat Pack?

I can only remember Ring of Fire and Feeling Good

Oddly enough, me too.

I belive that #8 – 834A is the Finale not Top 5 results.

Somehow I don’t think that AI will win overall. But I really think that the technical production team deserves to win. I would like to see AI win these:

1. Outstanding Art Direction for Variety, Music or Non-Fiction Programming: Show 821 – Top 11 – Country

3. Outstanding Lighting Direction (Electronic, Multi-Camera) For Variety, Music or Comedy Programing: Finale

8. Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video Control For a Series: Episode 834A

I will not be happy if they win for Sound Mixing or if Gowers wins anything!

weareallinnocent
Jul 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
refresh my memory

what songs did people do (besides Adam) for Country and Rat Pack?

I can only remember Ring of Fire and Feeling Good

Oddly enough, me too.

Oh so sad, but that’s the only two that comes to my mind too.

I belive that #8 – 834A is the Finale not Top 5 results.

How come? I’m not sure on the numbering. I could be wrong. I just looked at the episode numbers. The 34th episode of the season was the Top 5 results. I figure the A refers to some-sub-section of the show. Plus, the Finale was labeled Finale on the Emmy nomination document.

I will not be happy if they win for Sound Mixing or if Gowers wins anything!

I was stunned they got nominated. They do get to pick the episode for which they are judged on, though. Perhaps a miracle occurred and those were the only episodes they were reasonably decent. IDK.

AI deserves to win many of those Emmys. It’s ridiculous that the top show in television hasn’t won an Emmy yet and has lost every year to Amazing Race -_-

what songs did people do (besides Adam) for Country and Rat Pack?

I shall assume that this is a serious question:

Top 11 – Grand Ole Opry

Mentor: Randy Travis
* Michael Sarver – “Ain’t Goin’ Down (‘Til the Sun Comes Up)” (Garth Brooks)
* Allison Iraheta – “Blame It on Your Heart” (Patty Loveless)
* Kris Allen – “To Make You Feel My Love” (Garth Brooks)
* Lil Rounds – “Independence Day” (Martina McBride)
* Adam Lambert – “Ring of Fire” (Johnny Cash)
* Scott MacIntyre – “Wild Angels” (Martina McBride)
* Alexis Grace – “Jolene” (Dolly Parton)
* Danny Gokey – “Jesus, Take the Wheel” (Carrie Underwood)
* Anoop Desai – “Always on My Mind” (Brenda Lee)
* Megan Joy – “Walkin’ After Midnight” (Patsy Cline)
* Matt Giraud – “So Small” (Carrie Underwood)
- This was considered a good week by many for Kris Allen (showing that he can sing without a guitar/piano and getting to sing a Bob Dylan song), Anoop Desai (recovering very nicely from “Beat It”) and Matt Giraud (still recovering from “Viva la Vida” and showing some nice re-arranging skills). ROF of course caused a controversy with some people becoming major Adam fans and some people thinking his performance was awful.

Top 5 – Rat Pack Standards

Mentor: Jamie Foxx

* Kris Allen – “The Way You Look Tonight”
* Allison Iraheta – “Someone to Watch Over Me ”
* Matt Giraud – “My Funny Valentine”
* Danny Gokey – “Come Rain or Come Shine”
* Adam Lambert – “Feeling Good”
- A lot of people were blown away by Allison and thought that this was Danny’s best week (and the voters agreed because they got top 2).

refresh my memory

what songs did people do (besides Adam) for Country and Rat Pack?

I can only remember Ring of Fire and Feeling Good

Well, I can remember some of Rat Pack, because it was my favorite theme night of the season. That was the one that Jamie Foxx mentored, and was pretty positive about all of them, and all seemed to up their game, probably why it was nominated for directing. Kris started it off, and Foxx really liked his arrangement of “Just the Way You Look Tonight”. I do remember cool camera angles and the vibe with Kris being that 50′s/60′s Sinatra look. Wasn’t that the one with Adam coming down the stairs in the white suit for “Feeling Good”? Then Allison was on the stool, I think, for “Someone to Watch Over Me”. Danny’s song was good but the name is escaping me — I just remember thinking, hope Kris doesn’t lose votes to him. Matt sang “My Funny Valentine” well, but was out the next night. The results show was cool in that Foxx and Natalie Cole sang, and then Adam had to choose groups. Possibly the shock and awe of him and Kris being in the bottom that night made for good video work, which is what the category nom is for. I need to find out what other shows they are up against. The sound was awesome for the finale, hope at least they win that one. I think Seacrest does a good job, and I know there was the one night that Debbie the stage manager had just had the accident and Seacreast seemed to pull it together in spite of all of the technical problems.

I’m just shocked DWTS got 10 nominations. Especially any in a music category. Tom Bergeron is awesome, and the show is fun to watch. But, it’s pure cheese. The band is lame, the singers are mediocre and half the time the cameramen have no idea where to be.

I’d love to see Seacrest win. He makes a difficult live show look easy. I know Simon gets all of the press, but to me, Ryan is the most important personality on the show. He keeps the train running. Heck, he even tries to cover Kirsten’s most hated director’s mistakes.

I hope Ryan wins, too. Kind of miffed Cat wasn’t nominated, though.

Cat has been robbed again.

But yay Bleeding Love and Adam/Eve!

I think Seacrest does a good job, and I know there was the one night that Debbie the stage manager had just had the accident and Seacreast seemed to pull it together in spite of all of the technical problems.

That was the next week. Rock Week was cursed in more ways than one. After the stage manager fell off the stairs and was taken to hospital, one of the set pieces (big globe like things) fell off it’s axis and showered the stage with sparks. They had to cancel the dress rehearsal that week and just run with it live. Then Danny Screamed.

Heck, he even tries to cover Kirsten’s most hated director’s mistakes.

And for that alone, Ryan deserves to win.

The only one they deserve to win is host, IMO. The directing and sound mix were bad this year to me. Too bad they don’t give nomination for best reality show contestants, because THAT’S what made the show good this year.

I’ve never seen any of the other shows nominated along with American Idol, so can’t properly judge, but Ryan could stand strongly against anyone as best host. I don’t see how anyone could do a better job than he does – consistently.

As for sound mixing – that was the thing we complained about most often in this house. There’s not much more irritating than when the band drowns out the vocalist, as happened so often.

Hope they get something this year – to mark The Year of Adam.

It’s ridiculous that the top show in television hasn’t won an Emmy yet

They did win at least one last year. Not sure about previous years, though.

Yay for country night! I was there! It was Matt’s best performance and he closed the show with So Small. It was Megan’s best performance too. For the fans lucky enought to see the Idol Tour, and get to hear them live, you will understand what I mean when Matt’s electricity ignites on Hard To Handle – this is the feeling that was in the audience when he performed So Small too.

Cat Deeley is the best host on reality TV hands down.
She actually helps the contestants by being a real person engaged in their experience. They are better off by virtue of her being next to them- she knows what each of them needs and has smoothed over many a devastating moment.
And she hugs the sweaty boys unreservedly even in her finest frocks!!

Second place Bergeron for his thinking on his feet. The rest are meh.

Actually, I think The Amazing Race has won every year – and well deserved I might add! I love that show! I agree with tinawina, Ryan is the only deserved Emmy for AI this year.

Outstanding Reality – Competition Program

The Amazing Race

Outstanding Host for a Reality or Reality-Competition Program:

Survivor – Jeff Probst

I agree that the only one on Idol who deserves an Emmy this year is Ryan Seacrest, who kept the show together in spite of itself. On the other hand, the production end of the show was abysmal.

I can’t believe that Cat wasn’t nominated! What a joke. Ryan deserves to win. Bruce Gowers does NOT.

They did win at least one last year. Not sure about previous years, though.

Last year, they won an Emmy for “Outstanding Picture Editing of Clip Packages For Talk, Performance, Award or Reality Competition” for Bill DeRonde and Oren Castro (it was for the David Cook home visit clip).

They also one the Emmy for “Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video for a Miniseries, Movie or a Special” in 2007 (I seem to recall that was for the first Idol Gives Back special).

They typically get nominated for a half-dozen or so awards every year.

The band is lame, the singers are mediocre

You are too kind. The band is so God Friggin Awful that it often ruins the dancing for me. Those singers suck ass. Hell hiring Bikini Girl would be a step up.

As for AI winning anything technical…it’s a joke right? Right? Bruce getting props? Is the world suddenly flat?!?

i hope Ryan wins

Does anyone besides me wonder why there is an Emmy award for hosts of Reality Shows but not for cast members of Reality Shows?

Why should cast members of a reality show be considered any less deserving of a Emmy Award than cast members of a comedy or drama show?

How can anyone make a case that what Ryan Seacrest did this year on American Idol is deserving of an Emmy nomination but that (for example) what Adam Lambert did is somehow not deserving. Almost everyone would agree that what Adam accomplished this year on Idol is far more significant and enduring than what Ryan accomplished.

I suspect the only reason why reality show cast members don’t have an Emmy category is that there is no one to lobby for it. When an Emmy award for casting was added a number of years ago, it was because casting directors lobbied for it. Maybe we TV viewers should start a campaign to lobby on behalf of reality show cast members.

Why should cast members of a reality show be considered any less deserving of a Emmy Award than cast members of a comedy or drama show?

Because they’re contestants, not cast members (no matter if they do attempt to “cast” the seasons).

I belive that #8 – 834A is the Finale not Top 5 results.

How come? I’m not sure on the numbering. I could be wrong. I just looked at the episode numbers. The 34th episode of the season was the Top 5 results. I figure the A refers to some-sub-section of the show. Plus, the Finale was labeled Finale on the Emmy nomination document.

AMERICAN IDOL Air Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009. Time Slot: 8:00 PM-10:07 PM EST on FOX Episode Title: (ID2-834A) “Winner Announced”

Series: American Idol Genre: Reality/Crap Episode: S08E40 Title: Winner Revealed Production Code: ID2-834A Orig. Air Date: 20 May 2009

Same information on the Wiki list of all AI episodes — so I think this is correct.

They number the AI episodes in an odd way, with the use a A on the results shows.

Here are two other corrections:

1. Outstanding Art Direction for Variety, Music or Non-Fiction Programming: Show 821 – Top 11 – Country Correction: “Top 13 Perform” Michael Jackson

2. Outstanding Directing for a Variety, Music or Comedy Series: Show 833 – Top 5 – Rat Pack Correction: “Top 3 Perform”

Here is the full episode list from Wiki. I checked several of them to the original listings and they were correct. But it is Wiki.

They number the AI episodes in an odd way, with the use a A on the results shows.

Interesting. I thought that they just numbered them in order.

Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll fix the post based on what they have on wiki.

821 is actually Top 13 Performs (Michael Jackson) and 833 is Top 3 performs. 801/802 is just the Phoenix auditions.

BTW, does this mean that only the first hour of Michael Jackson night was nominated (Lil, Scott, Danny, Michael, Jasmine and Kris (and possibly Allison since there were 13)) since 822 (second hour) is not mentioned in the nomination?

Opps I forgot the link! LOL!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Idol_episodes#Season_8:_2009

Why should cast members of a reality show be considered any less deserving of a Emmy Award than cast members of a comedy or drama show?

Because they’re contestants, not cast members (no matter if they do attempt to ‘cast’  the seasons).

But why does this make a difference? In show business, is there a technical or legal distinction between a “cast member” and a “contestant” that would necessarily exclude contestants from Emmy consideration?

Besides, this is true only of “competition” reality shows. There are many reality shows that are not competitions, such as “Real World” and Kathy Griffin’s show. Kathy Griffin won a Emmy for her show only because she was the producer. As a cast member, she was not eligible for an Emmy.

I have a feeling AI will win for MJ week!

I appreciate the talent and effort the kids put forth, but this season was just sort of crappy all around. Missed throw to commercial, anyone? 8 minute overruns? 2 judge critique night?

I’d give Ryan an award just for not having a meltdown this season. But the Best Series nom just must be an acknowledgment of the gloss of the #1 show on tv, because the execution this year was baaaad.

Amazing Race ups its game every year so I think they will win again. Survivor finally upped their game this year – still waiting for Survivor Canada Arctic Circle though. Cannot believe Cat Deely was snubbed though for best host.

Seriously it was announced they were going to do a Survivor Canada dealing with the elements of the cold vs the tropics but no hard bodies in shorts or bikinis.

They should have American Idol All Stars Survivor

or is that called I’m a Celebrity Get Me outta here?

But why does this make a difference? In show business, is there a technical or legal distinction between a ‘cast member’  and a ‘contestant’  that would necessarily exclude contestants from Emmy consideration?

When game shows or competition shows are up for Emmys, they don’t give Emmys to the contestants or those who participated who were eligible to win a prize. The “trophy” for those who participated in AI, the Amazing Race, the Oscars, So You Think You Can Dance, Jeopardy, Top Chef, etc. is the actual prize (cash and/or career launch) or trophy itself (an Oscar, an Emmy, a Grammy).

When game shows or competition shows are up for Emmys, they don’t give Emmys to the contestants or those who participated who were eligible to win a prize. The ‘trophy’  for those who participated in AI, the Amazing Race, the Oscars, So You Think You Can Dance, Jeopardy, Top Chef, etc. is the actual prize (cash and/or career launch) or trophy itself (an Oscar, an Emmy, a Grammy).

Sassycatz,

Thanks for your reply, but is it the official position of the Emmy organization that Reality show cast members or contestants should not be eligible for Emmys for the reasons you cited? Or is this just your personal opinion?

Cat Deeley totally deserves to be nominated, and I think win. I think Ryan is great and keeps things moving, but Cat’s enthusiasm and warmth for the dancers is just charming and a bonus to the show. Especially after the first year’s host and having watched the hostesses of other country’s SYTYCD editions.

But I’m glad that Tom Bergeron is nominated. He is great. I love how quick he is and his sense of humor.

Sassycatz,

Thanks for your reply, but is it the official position of the Emmy organization that Reality show cast members or contestants should not be eligible for Emmys for the reasons you cited? Or is this just your personal opinion?

It’s my guess, more than anything. After all, a competition show is not supposed to have any control over who ultimately remains in the competition, therefore effecting the outcome, the storyline, or the ratings. (That’s why I have a problem with the “judges save.”) However, to win an Emmy, one would think that a competition show would love to manipulate the outcome to keep contestants in who make the best story. Sometimes that works out for them, but sometimes it doesn’t. To me, potentionally giving Emmys to contestants would be in direct conflict with the “integrity” of the competition.

Cat was totally snubbed by not getting a nomination but since she’s not on the list I would have to give this one to Ryan Seacrest who all season had to deal with the ridiculousness of the judges (on top 3 night he had to remind them that the show was about the contestants), he was ready on Rock week despite the on-stage problems, and I think I remember reading somewhere that he hosted one week despite being extremely ill to the point that Cat Deeley was supposedly on standby to cover if he couldn’t do it. (Sorry, don’t remember where I saw this but I do remember seeing it).

Regarding the contestant nomination controversy – to have any of them be nominated would be diffilcult – do you nominate just winners and runners-up? Do you nominate just interesting personalities? How would they be picked? If you do just winners and runners-up then you could lose out on some interesting contestants who were knocked out of the show early (think AI Season 7 w/ Michael Johns or this season characters like Tatiana or Normund Gentle, YMMV on who fits this category.) If you only go for interesting personalities, then you would miss out on people that the producers thought were just boring but were immensely talented (think Allison Iraheta, Kris Allen, or all the way back to Season 1 where Kelly Clarkson would have been on this list, again YMMV).

Add me to the list of people who don’t think Cat should have been snubbed….

I liked all the numbers nominated for choreography though!

Sassycatz said:

When game shows or competition shows are up for Emmys, they don’t give Emmys to the contestants or those who participated who were eligible to win a prize. The ‘trophy’  for those who participated in AI, the Amazing Race, the Oscars, So You Think You Can Dance, Jeopardy, Top Chef, etc. is the actual prize (cash and/or career launch) or trophy itself (an Oscar, an Emmy, a Grammy).

Here is an interesting historical footnote that is relevant to this issue that seems to disprove part of what Sassycatz said above:

In 1986, Whitney Houston was nominated for a Grammy for “Best R&B Vocal Performance” for the song “You Give Good Love.” She appeared on the Grammy show and performed the song but she did not win the Grammy. But later the same year she was nominated for and won the Emmy for “Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program” for her performance of that song on the Grammy show.

Is that weird or what?

It seems odd to me that Whitney Houston could win an Emmy for singing one song on an awards show on which she was a “contestant” for a Grammy, and Adam Lambert is not eligible for an Emmy nomination after giving us an entire season of amazing performances.

P.S. I believe the Emmy category for “Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program” was dropped at some point, perhaps because of the weirdness of Whitney’s win.

Here are two other corrections:

1. Outstanding Art Direction for Variety, Music or Non-Fiction Programming: Show 821 – Top 11 – Country Correction: ‘Top 13 Perform’  Michael Jackson

2. Outstanding Directing for a Variety, Music or Comedy Series: Show 833 – Top 5 – Rat Pack Correction: ‘Top 3 Perform’ 

Q3, thanks for clearing this up!
This means the show nominated was the one where Kris sang “Heartless”, was it not? Judges’ choice, producer’s choice, and contestant’s choice? Yeah, good show.

im happy to see bleeding love nominated, it was one of the standout routines of last season

Cat’s snub proves that nobody is watching this show. I also worry if some might reduce her hosting skills to simply standing up there, looking pretty (grrrrr)…..i just dont know the exact breakdown of who votes for each category, and if people get a chance to watch all of the shows/hosts on the nomiation list.

Tom and Ryan should be the top two vote getters……but Tom is less annoying and probably more respected in the industry…i can see him getting the win over Ry Ry

A directing award for Top 3 would bother me, as they had to cut an entire song from each contestant in order to fit the show into the 60-minute run time. That is not good directing. That is lazy directing. Dammit.

Outstanding Host for a Reality or Reality-Competition Program:

Survivor – Jeff Probst

I love Probst, I really do. But, he’s already got one. And, he does one live show a season. He hosts a taped show where half of the time he uses cue cards. I’d just personally like to see Ryan rewarded for the difficult task her performs. And, I too would like to see Cat nominated – she’s awesome.

Thanks for your reply, but is it the official position of the Emmy organization that Reality show cast members or contestants should not be eligible for Emmys for the reasons you cited? Or is this just your personal opinion?

There is no Emmy category for reality or game show contestant. The Emmy’s reward actors, hosts and the people behind the cameras for creating allegedly good tv. They don’t reward random strangers for being themselves. I can’t imagine them giving an Emmy to that guy who won Jeopardy 27 times, so I don’t know why they’d give an Emmy to a contestant on a Reality singing competition.

Plus – I don’t want to see any category where the skanks on Rock of Love are eligible for an Emmy.

She appeared on the Grammy show and performed the song but she did not win the Grammy. But later the same year she was nominated for and won the Emmy for ‘Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program’  for her performance of that song on the Grammy show.

Is that weird or what?

They treat the Oscars and Grammy’s as Variety or Music programs for the basis of Outstanding Program nominations. So, I guess that’s the line of thought that made her eligible.

P.S. I believe the Emmy category for ‘Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program’  was dropped at some point, perhaps because of the weirdness of Whitney’s win.

I believe that category was dropped because every year, you’d have Barry Manilow and Stephen Colbert competing against Don Rickles and total weirdness like that. And that’s exactly why I would guess they are not going to launch a new Emmy for Outstanding Performance by a Person Appearing or Competing on a Reality Show or Reality Competition. (The name is silly enough.)

And no, appearing on an awards program as a musical guest is not the same as being a competitor on a reality show. They were “competing” for a Grammy or an Emmy or whatever based on work that was already in the can, not on that particular performance. So Whitney Houston did not win an award for a performance that had already lost her an award. Do you think the Grammys vote for two hours after like AI?

Aside from the difficulty of naming this new, silly award, there are problems of how you define who is eligible — is it any old body who appeared even once or somebody who was in every episode or only a certain number of episodes? Do you split it up for males and females like they do the acting awards? Do you need to create categories for “guest” performances for the people who were there only a few times like they do for scripted shows, meaning we might have not just one new award but four? And what criteria do you use for judging whether Joan Rivers was a better reality show contestant than Cloris Leachman? Is obnoxiousness the best criterion? Or is it just “being somebody I personally really liked who didn’t win his show so I want to give him an Emmy to prove how hard he worked and how awesome he is and was”? In which case, I suppose we could just call it the Adam Lambert Award, hand it over to the one and only possible nominee, and not worry about figuring out eligibility or judging standards.

I can see it now. Meryl Streep just handed an award to Sir Ian McKellen for his stellar work as King Lear. And then Johnny Fairplay gets up there and announces, “The nominees for Outstanding Performance by a Person Appearing or Competing on a Reality Show or Reality Competition are: Some guy who cleaned toilets on “Dirty Work,” Omarosa, Jason Mesnick, Janice Dickinson, that guy who broke his ox on Amazing Race, and Bikini Girl. And the winner is…”

How can anyone make a case that what Ryan Seacrest did this year on American Idol is deserving of an Emmy nomination but that (for example) what Adam Lambert did is somehow not deserving. Almost everyone would agree that what Adam accomplished this year on Idol is far more significant and enduring than what Ryan accomplished.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. Ryan kept that train wreck of a show moving against some pretty stiff obstacles this year. The timing, direction and production were abysmal. Not to mention the freak accidents that had to be dealt with.

Adam’s contribution was no more or less than any other contestant. He did what he was selected to do. He sang each week. Not exactly earth shattering. In addition he was one of thirteen.

Cat Deeley was robbed. I may need a t-shirt proclaiming this sentiment. She is absolutely brilliant at managing that production. She keeps the audience at home and in the studio involved and engaged, keeps the judges in line and seems to nurture the contestants. I heart her.

She appeared on the Grammy show and performed the song but she did not win the Grammy. But later the same year she was nominated for and won the Emmy for ‘Outstanding Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program’  for her performance of that song on the Grammy show.

It’s a fine line, but the Grammy show performance was not a factor in whether Whitney won the Grammy. The vote was already in, right? In contrast, competition television shows, whether labelled as talent shows, game shows, or reality shows are the vehicles upon which these contestants compete and become known. As I said, I don’t know why contestants are not eligible but it does have the potential for impacting the integrity of the shows involved if they were. So, I’m perfectly fine with how it’s currently handled, or gosh darn it! Let’s backtrack and give the other compelling Idols Emmys, because Adam would not have been the first to grab the viewing public’s attention.

By the way, as an aside, I have to say that I hate that the Awards show broadcasts are eligible for awards. That’s long been a pet peeve of mine.

What Adam did for this show is so amazing!! People(like myself) that never took this cheesy show seriously was so blown away because of Lambert(and him alone). Breaks my heart to see everybody grabbing a piece of him, but Adam is so gracious , humble and mad talented so it won’t affect him at all-might help. I understand that AI is a business but give credit where it’s due. Adam is the bomb ok? to all of you intellectuals and skeptics be truthful to yourselves and the rest of us.

Adam is the bomb ok? to all of you intellectuals and skeptics be truthful to yourselves and the rest of us.

I’m not really sure what this means, but a) there is no way to add a category in time to either nominate or give any Emmy to Adam Lambert for his performance on AI this season, and b) there is no guarantee, even if you could magically go back in time and bribe and/or drug all the people who run the Academy to add this award for the 2008-2009 season, that they would nominate your beloved bomb. Even if you narrow it down to Reality Show Competitors (as opposed to just people who sold their old pots on “Antiques Road Show”) I still think Joan Rivers, Dennis Rodman, Janice Dickinson, Speidi and that Coach guy from Survivor would be more likely to be nominated than Adam Lambert. If you let in any reality contestants, then the freaks from Jon & Kate Plus 8 have got it in the bag.

What Adam did for this show is so amazing!! People(like myself) that never took this cheesy show seriously was so blown away because of Lambert(and him alone). Breaks my heart to see everybody grabbing a piece of him, but Adam is so gracious , humble and mad talented so it won’t affect him at all-might help. I understand that AI is a business but give credit where it’s due.

AI and Ryan were nominated for Emmys last year before they showed a single frame of Adam on the show. AI has been nominated for Emmys for years. I think that they might just deserve the Emmy nominations on their own (except Bruce).

No contestant on AI is eligible to win an Emmy for their role on the show this year. It’s not some sort of exception just to thwart Adam. And every year we get testimonials from people who never watched the show, but got drawn in by such-and-such a contestant.

as opposed to just people who sold their old pots on ‘Antiques Road Show’ 

Hee. Some of those people probably deserve Emmys too. LOL. I love that kooky show.

A reality show participant Emmy would be a truly bizarre category with so many divergent people being nominated.

What Adam did for this show is so amazing!! People(like myself) that never took this cheesy show seriously was so blown away because of Lambert(and him alone).

In terms of viewership, Adam’s contribution wasn’t significant enough. This year the evening of the final performances had the lowest television ratings ever for an AI final performance.

American Idol Ratings

Every year there are viewers who tune in for the first time ever because they are beguiled by a particular performer.

Adam is the bomb ok? to all of you intellectuals and skeptics be truthful to yourselves and the rest of us.
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^ And as such, the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences nominate him for an Emmy? because he’s “the bomb”. It’s not like they will give an Idol contestant who didn’t even win Idol an honorary Emmy. Because his very ardent fans consider him “the bomb”. Wow.

Here’s the 19E official release on the Emmys with the list of who is up for each award. And it confirms that 833 is the Final Three episode.

BTW, does this mean that only the first hour of Michael Jackson night was nominated (Lil, Scott, Danny, Michael, Jasmine and Kris (and possibly Allison since there were 13)) since 822 (second hour) is not mentioned in the nomination?

I believe the whole show is nominated.

Word to that jan. The ratings were down across the boards last year. The shows from previous years had more viewers.

I think Ryan deserves the nomination and I think he deserves to win. He does a fantastic job on American Idol year after year. He is great at what he does and keeps the show going.

I am with smartcookie I do not understand this statement:

Adam is the bomb ok? to all of you intellectuals and skeptics be truthful to yourselves and the rest of us.

Are you saying that intellectuals and skeptics don’t like Adam? Well I resemble that remark and I take it as a compliment.

you let in any reality contestants, then the freaks from Jon & Kate Plus 8 have got it in the bag.

LOL…yeah, those little creepsters would probably nab the win.

man, there are so many reality show these days (housewives,model shows, cooking shows, D list celebrities stuck in houses, islands, etc)…its impossible to narrow down one specific personality that would/should deserve an emmy.

I believe the whole show is nominated.

Could be. It’s just a little odd that they didn’t reference both hours (the entire two hours is 821/822) while they did with the Phoenix episode (801/802). Might be a typo or the rules might be different for that category. Or, it’s an art direction award so they didn’t need to submit full episodes. IDK.

Idol does not deserve either director or show nominations. How many times did the show go overtime? Just about every episode since the final 13.

I’m ok with Ryan’s nomination – I don’t see him at fault for the time issues. However I feel Cat Deely definitely deserves a nomination. I’m not sure why Padma is nominated for Top Chef – the show has a co host as well for pete’s sake. I would replace Padma and Tom with Cat.

I would also replace AI series nomination with So You Think You Can Dance.

Every year there are viewers who tune in for the first time ever because they are beguiled by a particular performer.

So true – last year I watched for the first time (even then not every week) because of cook and castro.

I think the AI nomination for top 3 is lame. This is the episode where AI had to cut a song from each contestant in order to make time for their judges yapping, and even then the show ended 2 minutes late.

Now if the AI directing nomination went to the AI finale I would be all for that. The finale was the most entertaining finale of the season AND it named a new Idol AND it ended on time.

I still advocate for the “no directing awards,” but from the point of view of a viewer, I see why the the Top 3 was nominated. It was a huge turning point for the series, with Kris’ Heartless, which I think, “re-wrote” a rather obvious “script” for the finale. But that it hardly amounts to “directing,” the technical concept, but it indeed took the show in a different “direction” after the Heartless performance.

And, still a “no win for directing” for Bruce Gowers, pls., lest we want to make him think he did an incredible job with Season 8.

I love Ryan, but I personally would vote for Tom Bergeron. He’s an excellent host.

I think some fans are confusing the Emmys with the People’s Choice awards. Emmys are television professionals giving awards to tv professionals. Amateur singers are out of scope. If the public has been touched by a particular performance, that’s where awards like People’s Choice and American Music awards come in. The public votes for those.