American Idol Final – Wrap Up and Predictions

FOR THE WIN!!!

I have to agree, I was pleasantly surprised by Simon Fuller’s choices. What a nice contrast from season’s past.

Whoa, is that the first time Kris has ever been first on DialIdol?

I’m really proud of both contestants. Even though I love Kris, I wouldn’t mind if Adam won. Both of them are incredible.

Adam is a superstar…Kris has been on the bottom of dialidol a number of times and was never voted off…and today he is on top

I’m dying to know who won but I don’t want it to be over. I’m gonna miss these two.

A lot of people complained that Simon picked old fashioned songs, but I think he did a good job. I loved the message of the songs, and of course they are classics that everyone knows.

Adam and Kris both had 1 great song. A change is gonna come for Adam, which I believe was the highlight of the night, and Ain’t no sunshine for Kris.

Who will win? I don’t know. Who should win? Adam. I will be disappointed if Adam doesn’t win. To me he deserves it. He has been the most creative, original, and consistent all season. Plus, he took a lot of risks. Some paid off, and some didn’t, but he stayed true to himself as an artist and I really respect that of him. Plus, vocally and performing-wise he’s the best.

The purpose of the show is to find a “superstar”. I truly believe the best chance of that is in Adam. I hope America and the show agrees with me.

I thought the show was really great, until the revelation of the craptacular ‘coronation’ song. If I had been either of those two poor guys last night, I just might have refused, on principle, to even go on stage for that performance, let alone finish the damn thing, even if it meant losing by default. I really feel for them – last night should have been their final shout out “Look out world! I’m here now and I ain’t never leavin’!” [slight paraphrase of a movie quote - can anyone guess which one?], but they had to leave as their last impression that “pile of poo” as mj called it. Oh well, it is what it is. :dry_tb:

Whoa, is that the first time Kris has ever been first on DialIdol?

I’m not sure. Dialidol has been so useless this year. I do know that even though Kris is up by a small amount, Adam has won the most states on the geopredictions. Adam won 29 states to Kris’ 18. I don’t quite get how they get their overall scores, which is probably why they haven’t really been making many bold predictions this year. Votenumber1.com has been more reliable, but who knows. I wish we could see the real vote totals.

Oh yeah… the coronation song sucks. That is such a shame that has to be the first single. lol Not exactly the way I would want to start off my singing career.

Excellent summary, MJ. My gut is telling me that Adam will take the title although I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised or sad if Kris was able to pull out the upset of the ages. There were so many things about this season that left a bad taste in my mouth (Tatiana Del Toro, Top 36 and Wildcard Round, Addition of 4th judge, Endless pimping of Gokey, Adam and Lil Rounds, the stupid “Judge’s Save”, the sabotaging of Lava Girl etc.) and yet when all is said and done, we ended up with the two best contestants and a lot of truly memorable performances. I think the old paradigm of the big voiced melisma driven contestant who could out Whitney Whitney and out Celine Celine has been replaced with the new paradigm of Idol as artist/song reinventer as evidenced by Kris’ amazing rise from the top of the heap with no great backstory, no audition footage and no endless pimping from the four stooges. I see the downfall of Lil and Gokey as further evidence that musical intelligence is just as important if not more, than the big voice and the big backstory. And yes, I am aware that this paradigm shift started last season with Cookie and Castro and Brooke. Adam seems to combine the best of both worlds—amazing vocal pyrotechnics and the ability to remake a song and that is why I think he will come out on top in this race. And for what it’s worth, my 81 year old mother loves Adam so that has to count for something.

Adam for the win :clap_tb:

Simon Fuller did a really good job with the song choices! They were both message songs but that’s a good thing because it allowed each of them to have a moment. He did a better job than any of Clive Davis’s picks, the producer’s picks, and even the judges pics because he actually seemed fair (and there was no Happy Feet song!).

I think Adam will win too even though I love Kris. I’d still be happy though and it’s weird that I’ve never been so anxious for my favorite to lose… haha.. I really don’t want to hear that last song again.

MJ, I have a gut feeling too. Hopefully, you are right. This was the first time I voted for 4 straight hours and lots of research companies have declared Adam as the winner…..A Change is Gonna Come!

Are there any red carpet type pre show going on on TV?

Like TV Guide channel or another Fox channel? I remember a couple of years ago they did the red carpet thing talking to the celebrities and asking them who they wanted to win.

I don’t want to miss it so somebody PLEASE let me know.

Many, many thanks!!

Conventional wisdom would have Adam Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s consistently trended higher for Google searches, the media went crazy for him and the judges pimped him all seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’taking the title.

Perez pointed out the last three winners were the top searches Idols for their season

Adam seems to combine the best of both worldsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ amazing vocal pyrotechnics and the ability to remake a song and that is why I think he will come out on top in this race. And for what ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s worth, my 81 year old mother loves Adam so that has to count for something.

Ha. My mom loves Adam too, although my mom is only 57. Adam crosses all generations!! And yes, Adam does combine the best of both worlds. Plus, he has amazing stage presence which cannot be taught. You either have it or you don’t.

Anyone else watching the Idol tonight red carpet finale special on TV Guide? They are interviewing different people, including some past Idols.

So far:
Janice Dickinson really liked Adam
Kimberley Locke says that she thinks that Kris will win.
Chris Daughtry said that he is pulling for Kris.
Chris Richardson said that he is a big Kris fan but that he thinks that Adam will win.
Bo Bice says that he thinks that Adam will win.
Ruben and Melinda say ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tough to call.

I get the feeling that a lot of people think that it could go either way.

Well my gut is telling me that Kris won. Which is…fine. I mean I like him, but I don’t love him and he is a safer choice and I didn’t give him the edge last night based solely on vocals (and ignoring that last “song). Unlike a lot of others, I didn’t like his WGO and even his “Ain’t No Sunshine,” wasn’t as good as his wonderful earlier performance for you (for me).

But I expect it will be a close vote. So who knows why people vote and what kind of difference that will ultimately make?

I just wish none us ever had to hear that Crapination Song ever again, and I feel badly (well through my bitterness) for Kris in having to sing it. I don’t see how he or Adam could have made that pile of dreck into a winning single.

Kara needs to be fired for being a useless judge AND delivering a Crapnation “song,” so bad, I miss magic rainbows. That just ain’t right.

I loved the Fuller songs, actually. But I hope TPTB are paying attention to the overwhelming criticism of that song.

Ya wanna tweak something, guys? Tweak the stupid song. Do something, anything, but for the love of God don’t ever saddle your finalists or viewing audience with crap like this again.

Are there any red carpet type pre show going on on TV?

Like TV Guide channel or another Fox channel? I remember a couple of years ago they did the red carpet thing talking to the celebrities and asking them who they wanted to win.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to miss it so somebody PLEASE let me know.

Many, many thanks!!

There is an Idol tonight red carpet finale special on the TV Guide Channel on right now. So far they have interviewed past Idols about who they think will win. No judges or current season idols have arrived yet.

Are there any red carpet type pre show going on on TV?

Like TV Guide channel or another Fox channel? I remember a couple of years ago they did the red carpet thing talking to the celebrities and asking them who they wanted to win.

TV Guide channel red carpet show is on now- it runs from 6-8pm. Lots of Idols being interviewed, fun clips, and so on.

No melody…that was my issue with Kara’s song. Im willing to embrace the sappy lyrics, but the song was lacking rhythm/beat. Nothing worked.

“Adam is a superstarà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦”

If Adam is an exceptional talent, why is he running neck-and-neck with Kris at this point? What should that tell you? Sure Adam’s got a good voice. But he doesn’t know how to interpret songs except by advertizing himself. That won’t sell a lot of records.

Are there any red carpet type pre show going on on TV?

Yes, on TV guide channel.

Oh please oh pretty please give the crown to Kradam!
Make it a tie!
Now that would be ultra-cool people…
Double Idol Winners!

All we are saaaaaaaayingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 
Is give peace a chaaaaance!

OK, not likely, but one can hope. Personally, Adam should probably win tonight. He deserves it for a season’s worth of total amazement and groovy entertainment juju.
But should Kris win, no problem. He has been charming and humble from the very beginning, and that counts for something. I liked a couple of his performances this year.

Congrats, boys! Now go forth and multiply…

cookmerized just texted me a pic of Jason Castro walking by her. I’ll see if I can supply it in an appropriate thread. I don’t know if MJ would want it in her wrap up & predictions thread.

“I thought the show was great,”

Actually a lot of people thought it was boring compared to last year. Boring songs. Boring performances. Boring season.

I have a bottle of champagne in the frig and I will crack it open either way. Both of these guys deserve a toast.

I am hoping so hard to hear Adam’s name called out as the winner, but I have always thought that a majority of Danny’s voters (who stuck with the show) would go to Kris, and there were a lot of them. And of course Kris has been building support throughout the show and deservedly so. I like Kris and expect I’ll be buying his music in the future but I think that Adam is stellar. I want him to have this moment. But if Kris gets it I won’t resent him for it, anymore than I think Adam would.

Kris is going to take it although he is not the best talent.

Adam would have taken it if it had been an Adam/Danny finale for sure. It also would have been a much more interesting and passionate finale.

I have to laugh because due to the trashing and thrashing of Danny by the media, yes you too M.J., Adam’s strongest competition was kicked off and now Adam will most likely lose to a far weaker performer. In all, it diminishes Adam’s talent as a result.

Thanks everyone for letting me know about the pre show!

Suri Cruse didn’t get to meet Adam and Kris last night. Heh.

Kimberly’s voice really, really hurts my ears.

praepos….Adam is leading in i-tunes. Wait for their records to be released and then that’s the time you judge who sells more records.

I don’t have the tv guide channel so any updates would be appreciated!

If Kris has an unexceptional talent, why is he running neck-and-neck with Adam? What should that tell you about Adam? Sure Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got a good voice. But he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how to interpret songs except by advertizing himself, drawing attention to his clothes and makeup, to lighting and faux attitude. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s always all about Adam. Fine for Vegasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’but that wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell records.

I have to respectfully disagree. “Tracks of my tears” was a beautiful interpretation by Adam that involved him, in a suit, no makeup, just singing from his heart. Adam can definitely be theatrical which I suppose does not appeal to some, but there are many sides to him that, as Kara would put it, “makes him a true artist.” lol

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I was a little worried about Gokey votes going to Kris…which obviously a lot have. But, in talking to Adam fans…there were quite a few that had voted for Kris in past weeks just to keep him in the game. Myself included. Also, a lot of Allison fans are voting for Adam. So, in the end I think it really evened out.

Adam would have taken it if it had been an Adam/Danny finale

So true, there are more Kris/Adam fans then Danny/Kris fans (I’m talking about normal fans not the crazy christians)

If Adam loses, it doesn’t diminishes his talent. He will continue to shine. He has the backing of Simon (a music mogul) and hollywood. He will have the last laugh.

I don’t think Kris is an unexceptional talent. I just believe that he is more of what we have already seen in seasons past. Adam is an original.

Parris B thinks it’s to close to call, she likes them both

But he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how to interpret songs except by advertizing himself, drawing attention to his clothes and makeup, to lighting and faux attitude. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s always all about Adam. Fine for Vegasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’but that wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell records.

Tell that to Katy Perry and Lady Gaga. Two of the biggest radio stars right now, period. They’re certainly selling plenty of records.

I also seem to remember other artists putting on a show – Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson, just to name a few. Not even mentioning the glam rockers that Adam loves and emulates.

ETA: I’ve been saying all along that Danny’s voters would go to Kris, and some of them I’m sure did. But the Danny voters I know at work just watched the show last night. They didn’t really care too much, and didn’t vote at all. If these coworkers, dedicated AI viewers, didn’t even vote, I’m wondering if there was a bigger portion of those type of Danny fans than we think.

Actually it was boring to most Americans. Boring songs. Boring performances. Boring season.

It’s funny, I wasn’t as crazy about this season, but admittedly I was way too into last year (David Cook) and since I’m still busy following *his* career I had no intentions of getting too into anyone else.

That said, my sister voted for the first time EVER — and she’s watched since Season 1 — for *Adam* this year. So while it may have bored some, it was a great season for others… my sister isn’t the only one who really got into Idol this year. My aunt and several of my friends loved Gokey and many of them liked this season best of all. Who knows. I thought this season was really odd, but there were some cool kids on there and some nice performances. I just know that I personally wasn’t as into it because last year wore me out, hehe.

I still think it’s a damn shame that the craptastic coronation song closed out the show because I loved the performances up until that point. I gave round 1 to Kris and round 2 to Adam and then round 3 was a tie because I couldn’t bear to listen all the way through either one. Well, no, I’ll give Adam the edge because Kris I thought was going to explode trying to keep up with it in that key.

For some reason I think Kris will win, which is fine… Adam was in my personal opinion the most consistently good all year but he’s also more polarizing (not just for his sexuality, but for his style, too) so in a race this tight… being the “milder” of the two might have won the day.

Guess we’ll see, eh? I’m personally readying my Kleenex for David Cook’s Permanent! These cheesy finales are generally pretty entertaining so… almost time!

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get willfully submitting a shitty song or forcing the contestants to sing it. Why is this ridiculous formula they have in place for the winnerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song necessary? Why not just create a good song for the winner to record and release?

I mean seriously. it’s THAT SIMPLE. and they dont fucking get it. after 8 fucking seasons…UGGGGH!!

Guys I’m overseas and would love to see the show live. can someone please provide with a live streaming link. Pleeeeeeeeeeeez :help_tb:

It warmed my heart a bit to think that maybe, maybe TPTB arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t as cynical as I thought.

Yup, I actually began to give them credit for a warm, kumbaya feeling from the Kradam finale, and thought to myself, hmmm I wonder if this was their intent all along. Too much credit? Maybe. But Kris, to me, has had the feel of a stealth TCO all along. And, well, I sort of like the idea of the older wiser Brits teaching its fledgling young offspring a lesson or two about life.

But, I imagine it’s at least equally likely that the ultimate culture battle died on the vine as Danny faded into obscurity (girl’s gotta dream, lol j/k) and this finale story arc was Plan B. Either way, I like it!

Nigel: Adam will win, Kris drew it closer. Kinda like Ruben and CLay

Oh, yeah, and album sales… NO way to tell. We’ll just have to wait and see. (It’s a long summer waiting, hehe, I remember that well from last year!)

And the coronation song… surely there’s *something* better out there? I mean, if it needs to be about puppies/kittens/rainbows/hurricanes/blizzards… at least make it palatable!

You would think that once they heard a run through of “Kara’s Song” they would immediately have went into plan B mode. Have each guy perform an original song(which they would have known since they wrote them). Kris could have used his guitar and Adam could have sung Acapella if the band couldn’t learn it. That would have saved the show.

I picked Adam to win but I like them both.
Whoever wins I hope they can re-arrange that disaster of a song for their first single cuz it ain’t gonna do them any favors.

Nigel said he likes Paula a little bit out there she’s to normal this year LOL

Adam would have taken it if it had been an Adam/Danny finale

You know, I always thought that…until last night. I can’t stand the Gokey, but there’s a big part of me that thinks he would have done halfway decent on the coronation song, and probably gotten huge props from the judges for it. I kind of see now that maybe he was TCO and the judges gave kind of “meh” comments last night because their boy is gone and they really don’t care who out of these two wins.

I used to think that Adam would wipe the floor with Danny in the finale but now it looks like it’s better for him that Kris is his opponent instead. I don’t see any way that Adam won’t be the one showered in confetti at approximately 8:57 CST and singing “Mountains and Hurricanes” for what is sure to be the first time of many.

Never mind. I’m wasting my time.

Chris Daughtry said that he is pulling for Kris.
Chris Richardson said that he is a big Kris fan but that he thinks that Adam will win.

lol i find it funny that both Chris D and R like Kris.

But he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how to interpret songs except by advertizing himself, drawing attention to his clothes and makeup, to lighting and faux attitude. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s always all about Adam. Fine for Vegasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’but that wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell records.

Tell that to Katy Perry and Lady Gaga. Two of the biggest radio stars right now, period. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re certainly selling plenty of records.

I also seem to remember other artists putting on a show – Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson, just to name a few. Not even mentioning the glam rockers that Adam loves and emulates.

Sarah…you illustrated the point perfectly by citing those artists. Plus, let’s not forget that Adam has an incredible voice. It’s not just smoke and mirrors…and blue lighting…and stairs…and leathery loveliness….

You also have to consider the negative publicity about Adam and the Gokey votes and Christian votes going to Kris. This is the reason why it was neck-to-neck. For Gokey fans, it’s anyone but Adam. Unfortunately, Gokey was eliminated.

For all who don’t have the TV Guide channel to watch the red carpet stuff you can watch a live feed online at the link below

http://media.myfoxla.com/live/2

Ace looks really handsome tonight. Also, Santana, David Cook, Paula and Kara have arrived on the red carpet.

I honestly doubt whether Gokey fans voted in force…when your favorite leaves you just dont vote at all…

FYI –
FOX 11 and myFOXla.com are streaming raw video of the “American Idol” Finale Red Carpet arrivals from the Nokia Theatre in Downtown Los Angeles. Watch here now: http://www.myfoxla.com/

There’s no chance that Danny would have won against Adam even with the crappy coronation song. I’m thinking Kara had Lil Rounds in mind more when she wrote that song for some reason.. Anyways, Kris and Adam mainly have the same fans so it’s no question that Kris’s votes would have went to Adam. Adam most likely would have beaten him with a large margin, while a Adam and Kris finale is more evenly matched since they are so opposite. and they both sucked on that last song so it really was even. haha

I’m still going Kris. We’ve had no upsets this season(and I don’t call Danny not making it to the finale an upset, I call it a blessing…heh).

I just think as much as I want Adam as winner, I also in the same breath DON’T want Adam as a winner.

Because he has to sing that damn song!

I can easily find a place for Kris Allen in today’s pop music, and even if I’m a bigger fan of Adam, Kris is such a logical, marketable choice. I understand that.

For that reason alone, I give it to Kris. Adam may create more BUZZ, but Kris already has a nice niche carved for him in the music market. He’d fit right in. It’s easy for him than it will be for Adam.

I’m waiting on pins and needles for Simon……he gives it away every single year on the red carpet.

What a difference a year makes. I thought last year’s finale was far more exciting and entertaining than last night, despite the horrific product placement of that dreadful Mike Meyers bomb (does anyone even remember that piece of shiz)? One of the best moments last year was of Cook singing The World I Know — a heretofore unheard song from him. It was beautiful and heartfelt and totally unexpected. That was what was missing last night. Everything felt slightly warmed over, and nothing new was brought to the fore. I agree with MJ that the unspeakable coronation song killed off any momentum that may have built, but there was precious little momentum to begin with thanks to starting the show off with old retreads from earlier in the season. I hope Adam wins, but it he doesn’t, whatevs….

Archie just talk to FoxLA…. HE IS ADORABLE… and he just met BRAD GARRET from Everybody Loves Raymond…. that dude is tall…

all i really want to know is if normund is performing. that is all. lol.

Many Adam ´s fans splitted their votes between Adam and Kris, in the top three, to get Danny out of the finale. They wanted a finale betweeen Adam and Kris. I wasn ´t that sure it was a good strategy.

Also, last night, at around 3 am Eastern time, Kris ´s fan were still voting, using Gizmo (I went to their web page, and they were chatting with each other about the way the strategies they had used to vote for 7 hours in a row). I wonder how many of Adam ´s fans stayed until that time voting for him. I did.

I really hope that Adam is the winner of AI, because he is already the World ´s Idol. It would be really sad and unfair if he is not the winner.

The voting system is not good at all. There should be only one vote per person.

I sure hope you are wrong, MJ. I have had all my points on Kris Allen from the start and still have my fingers crossed tha he wins it tonight. I love his progression on the show. Adam started out pretty much the same way he ended up. He has a great voice, no doubt, but for me there is more to being a great singer than the voice alone. It has to do with the connection to the song, singing it from your heart, being genuine. To me that is Kris. Adam is too much an act. Someone compared him to Lady Gaga. Kind of performance art. Don’t really like her so I hope Adam is more than Lord Gaga.

Keith Urban likes them both

Nicole Kidman will be in the house

Actually it was boring to most Americans. Boring songs. Boring performances. Boring season.

Actually this is my favourite season of AI. I hated the first season, still dislike both Reuben and Clay immensely, and found all following seasons boring in terms of musical talent. This the first season that I have been passionate about and of which I have i have not missed a single episode.

I caught sight and sound of Adam in the auditions and, to my horror, I was hooked. But I’m british you see, and Adam’s style of music is more suited to my side of the pond I think. We love singers in make up who dress up, saunter and wail beautifully. The lack of such flamboyant talent is exactly the reason why I hated all previous seasons. To each his taste ay.

As a further note, Adam’s ACGC has been playing non stop on my Itunes all day. It’s fabulous.

Adam for the win!!!!!!!

The “christian vote” has never been a major factor in kris’ votes. at least not during the top 3 or 4 or 5 etc while danny was in the competition. obviously, this week is another story…but considering how much kris has flaunted his adam bromance to the world, i doubt many religious zealots called in to vote :wink1_tb:

regarding kris and adam being so close in votes during top 3….if anything, people who supported adam/allison might have voted for kris to get rid of danny, and hence kradam being seperated by only 1 mil

7 hrs voting seriously? there are so many things better go do with ones life.

I think that it’s cool that Keith Urban said that Nicole will be in the audience tonight watching the finale. He seems like a nice guy.

Oh shucks. I missed David Cook’s arrival. Did he stop and chat with Justin and Kimberly the ex Caldwell?

Also, last night, at around 3 am Eastern time, Kris ´s fan were still voting, using Gizmo (I went to their web page, and they were chatting with each other about the way the strategies they had used to vote for 7 hours in a row). I wonder how many of Adam ´s fans stayed until that time voting for him. I did.

Okay…I’m intrigued by this…what the heck is a gizmo and how can they vote until 3 am in Eastern Time zones?

Aww, I just caught the end of DC talking to http://www.myfoxla.com/, and Carrie was next to him talking to ET, and when he finished he went to ET and he and Carrie did a little pseudo twirl almost (can’t explain it well) when they switched off. Cute! Ha, I’m pathetic…

The thing I’m most looking forward to now is the Kradam duet. The icing on the cake of this weird weird season.
Now, on with the post idol cds…chop chop.

first post on the site, though this is where i’ve lurked for most of my AI news/rumors. i’m an arkansan, so obviously i’ve been voting for kris hardcore, but both guys are extremely talented and will have very successful, very different careers.

call it homer-ism, call it whatever, but i think kris has this one won, and i’m not sure it’s even going to be as close as many believe. he’s always hung out very near or at the bottom of DI and yet been pretty easily safe every week due to the ridiculous number of text votes he garners. trust me, i’ve been to one of the texting parties and they’re nuts. (wanna get bitched out? break someone’s concentration towards the end of the 2hrs of voting.) now for the first time kris is on *top* of DI (if marginally)? unless a high percentage of the parties of powertexters accidentally typed ’5701′ last night, i can only see this going one way.

I’m with those who preferred Kris’s connection to that awful final song. They are both saying it is better in the studio versions, so I hope it is cuz it was dreadful last night for both of them.

WTF KImberly. You are now trying to give Adam credit for Kris’s arrangements?? She is a wanker. Glad Adam corrected her to say Kris helped him and then Kris said that they helped each other. Watching the Idol Tonight.

Adam just told them that Kris is the coolest cat!. :cool2_tb:

..I love how they BOTH seem to be throwback hippies!!!

Oh, there is my Cookie! He is in the background on Idol Tonight, but he is there. YEAH!!!

I think that David Cook looks good tonight. I like his suit. I am not a fan of Kara, but I did like how she made fun of her counting skills, and the “Studio 57″ comment.

I think everyone really needs to hear this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU

David Cook looks sharp in the suit and shades.

I sure hope you are right somewherenorth. I was online with friends and we were hitting redial like mad for Kris for the entire four hours.

Kris and Keith Urban, the perfect duet. Same laid back style. Same nice guy qualities. Both married to beautiful blondes. LOL

Sarah !

Here’s a live stream of the red carpet — lots of people are online but it hasn’t crashed — yet !

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/American-Idol-2-hour-Finale-Adam-Kris-Results

well its almost time…I just want to enjoy the show…but I really want Adam to win! IDK, its so close….MJ you were too polite calling the ‘coronation’ song poo…its a fucking piece of shit…poor excuse of a song…there I said it.

Also, last night, at around 3 am Eastern time, Kris ´s fan were still voting, using Gizmo (I went to their web page, and they were chatting with each other about the way the strategies they had used to vote for 7 hours in a row). I wonder how many of Adam ´s fans stayed until that time voting for him. I did.

Okayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m intrigued by thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦what the heck is a gizmo and how can they vote until 3 am in Eastern Time zones?

Gizmo is an application, similar to skype, and you could call AI for free to vote for your favorite, from the very beginning to the time when the voting finished. I found out about it on Kris ´s fans web page, and I used it to vote for Adam. I am not in the US and it was the only way I could vote, as I learned on that site.

heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s always hung out very near or at the bottom of DI and yet been pretty easily safe every week due to the ridiculous number of text votes he garners.

Yeah, I get this analysis. The missing component, however, is the ability to compare it to Adam. We don’t have the same ability to extrapolate percentage text votes for him since he never bottomed out on dial idol, and we don’t actually know how to measure “easily safe” since no one provides vote totals. Though we can say Adam hit bottom 2 (if you believe it) we cannot measure whether that was complacency and we cannot underestimate audience response from that point forward as they then knew Adam was not automatically safe.

So, yes, Kris likely gets a lot of text votes. But Adam could as well, and we have no way at all to compare.

Signed,
Die Hard Hopeful (yet still Logical) Glambert (who loves Kris too)

Oh man my stomach is hurting and I don’t know why. I feel that I am ok with whoever wins but maybe my sub-conscience is hoping for a certain outcome.

I’m also having to endure this alone since hubby is on the road. I so wish I could be little fly backstage. I would be heading right for the card with that name on it. I envy Ryan.

I think everyone really needs to hear this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU

Ha- most of us have heard it a thousand times and sent it to everyone we know. Even my Mom has it on her MP3 and she’s 76

praeposà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Adam is leading in i-tunes.

Blake’s Idol perfrormances outsold Jordin’s.

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Honestly, I can’t lose either way. If Adam loses, I will have the entertainment of watching the press and “Adam-net” convulse into wailing lamentations. And AI will possibly have in Kris a winner with the least star power ever (or maybe he’d be tied with Taylor).

On the other hand, if Adam wins, his fans won’t feel the need to “prove anything” by buying 50 albums each. And that means when his sales are more than likely underwhelming– if he himself is given ANY creative control or input– then that will bring AI that much closer to the end! Simon will realize that AI can’t crank out superstars anymore even with all that uber-pimpage!

So come to think of it, if it means AI is that many steps closer to its demise if Adam wins, then go Adam FTMFW and Idol FTMFL!

Chat doesn’t seem to be working…

Anyway, I do think Kris might just pull off the upset, but he does have a final hill to climb.

and when he finished he went to ET and he and Carrie did a little pseudo twirl almost (canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t explain it well) when they switched off. Cute! Ha, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m patheticà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Don’t feel pathetic alone. LOL That was really cute. She was like dancing around him and they were smiling at each other. aww

They’re all looking great. Love Simon saying he just can’t comment on those last two songs.

20 minutes before show starts Simon on red carpet (streaming myLAFOX) says ” you know its American Idol. There could be an upset”, which he then explained meant Kris winning.” Surely he knows the vote. Kris must have won.

I look forward to see lava girls and Cindy Laupers duet…

Ya know I know Danny or the Pastor are upset but blocking my way into chat w/ a message…Come on I will say 10 hail Marys and even throw one….

I just hope the show tonight is as amazing as the finale last year. For me David Cook fronting ZZTop was a moment. He looked so completely at home. I loved it. Can’t wait for Kris and Keith tonight. It will be fun to see Allison and Cindy Lauper, too. Both with the crazy colored hair. LOL

I love Adam but I hope to God he doesn’t win. His record will be a thousand times better if he doesn’t.

Yep, Kris won

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/American-Idol-2-hour-Finale-Adam-Kris-Results

Hah. Archie dodged the “who do you think will win” question with “I don’t know. That’s why I’m here. To find out”.

Actually pretty much all the other idol finalists gave good PR answers.

Honestly, I am missing Kris’s voice already. I love that little signature catch he gets. So beautiful. I have all of his downloads to keep me company until his CD comes out.

ahhhhhhhhh….chat isnt working!!! I cant watch without my chat peeps!!!

I feel sick after hearing Simon’s red carpet comments.. :sad_tb:

Facebook chat anyone?

What did Simon Say?

Cookchuleta picture

ETA

I feel sick after hearing Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s red carpet comments..

What did Simon said?

archucook hug *heart*

http://twitpic.com/5l7db

According to Ryan Seacrest, the judges do not know who won until he announces it. He is the only one who finds out so he can plan how to make the announcement. It is still anyone’s night. I am hoping with crossed fingers that Kris wins, but am not expecting it to happen.

Wait, there’s chat?

What did Simon say?

“”"Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m with those who preferred Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s connection to that awful final song. They are both saying it is better in the studio versions, so I hope it is cuz it was dreadful last night for both of them.”"”

I know that I am in the minority here but I thought Adam made that stupid song his own, threw all of himself out there on the floor that was the differencee between he and Kris, Kris was painful to watch him flounder on that, Adam really could sing the phone book and make most people like it, I have been searching for the pitchy notes, cant find them but poor Kris was straining his voice to reach for the notes period. They both deserve to be there tonight though, sunshine proved that to me and falling slowly. Kris just might win but Adam was always a winner.

My favs have never won, except Kelly, but my favs have gone on to do much better than the actual winner, so maybe my curse should continue for Adam and Kris will win

poporange – where? I have very few people from here on my Facebook…

I don’t believe for a minute that Simon doesn’t know the vote total.

Somebody!

What did Simon say???

Please?

For me Adam was just as painful to watch. That song just didn’t do anything for either of them.

“”"So come to think of it, if it means AI is that many steps closer to its demise if Adam wins, then go Adam FTMFW and Idol FTMFL”"”

Why do you bother to watch and comment if you feel this way, just wondering. If I hated something that much I wouldnt waste my time

If american idol went away, so would the fun we all have on here, even the war of words – it would suck if AI was over.

“”For me Adam was just as painful to watch. That song just didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do anything for either of them.”"

It proved that Adam can sing even the crappiest of songs and sound good – thats all I was sayin

20 minutes before show starts Simon on red carpet (streaming myLAFOX) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  you know its American Idol. There could be an upsetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , which he then explained meant Kris winning.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Surely he knows the vote. Kris must have won.

Just going on oldtimer’s post..

I felt sick after I read that.. thinking Simon might know something.

Simon made some comment about an upset.

In a nutshell, simon said that if Kris won it would be not be fair, that Adam should be the winner, but that anything can happen.

I really hope Kris pulls off the win. Not because of the upset, and not because of the “flying under the radar” thing. But because I truly love his style. The singer-songwriter vibe always appealed to me more than typical rock stars, and personally that’s what Adam’s voice sounds like to me. He’s also a genuine, humble guy who never went over the top or show amazing skills. Rather, he kept it simple and, as Paula said, left his imprint on each and every one of his performances. I felt his performances way more than I felt Adam’s. I’ll try not to be disappointed if Adam wins, but I know someone’s gonna be like “HAH” in my face and ruin the whole thing for me. Which is sad, since I love Adam, too.

Last night really proved to me that he is 100% awesome. I loved that second song. It sounded like a Kris arrangement, but it sounded like Adam worked it without copying him. And, in my opinion, it’s the ONLY performance where his OTT scream/wail worked VERY well. It made me cringe for a second, but then I started thinking “Hey, he did it quite well for once! AWESOME!” I thought maybe the two would do really well with a duet version of Adam’s second performance.

I really felt both did pretty terrible with the coronation song, struggling with its lack of melody, but it really wasn’t their fault. Adam tried to do his own thing to the melody but instead turned it into a hot mess, I agree with Randy that it was pretty blah. Kris was straining with the key but he at least worked the melody fairly well. I give both of them an A for effort on that song. And oh God, 4 minutes. I don’t care much for the duets, I’ll just watch them when it comes on later.

Can’t get into chat:

Kristy Cook likes Adam

Me either pj Hopefully it will be fixed within the next 6 minutes…

Ryan has said he keeps away from everyone and doesn’t make eye contact so as not to reveal anything. Simon couldn’t keep it a secret if he knew. Paula couldn’t, Randy couldn’t and neither could Kara. Plain and simple. Simon does best by doing what he has been doing, stirring the pot and making everybody guess what he really means.

Ok so I really like Kristie Lee Cook after whut she just said….

sniff sniiff….i miss you peej

Simon’s comment was said in a very casual, offhand manner. He simply stated what everyone know’s – it’s American Idol and there could be an upset. He didn’t say there’s going to be an upset.

LOL At Cook being interviewed by Brandon! At least it made for cute Archucook moment!

Pretty sure Simon and Randy knew the results last year while on the red carpet. There’s a reason Simon said what he said.
But as for today’s comment, not sure that means much.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe for a minute that Simon doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the vote total.

Really? Cause if I remember right he looked rather shocked when Taylor won.

one reason i think Kris may win — though logic tells me Adam willl — is that almost every week, Kris ended up in a higher place than shown on Dial Idol. He was second to last several times, yet never ended up in the bottom three. (that i can remember.)

of course, dial idol had it’s ridiculous range: he can be anywhere from 2 to 7.

so given that he is slightly ahead on dial idol, i think that he is probably higher than it really shows. perhaps this is due to text messages. but there was a clear pattern that showed kris lower down the list on dial idol and he ended up finishing higher.

That is not what I interpreted dyg. Here is the quote from the previous poster:

“20 minutes before show starts Simon on red carpet (streaming myLAFOX) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  you know its American Idol. There could be an upsetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , which he then explained meant Kris winning.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Surely he knows the vote. Kris must have won. ”

Nothing about fair or unfair, just that it was up to America. I still say Simon doesn’t know. It is too hard not to give things away. That is why Ryan is the only one who knows a head of time.

ShariG , just embrace the iTunes downloads until his album drops (HOPEFULLY) this holiday season. damn that side mouth cutie, spent more money on him this season than any previous idol ..and im quite stingy w. my iTunes dollars.

(im actually deleting a cpl of songs from my playlist just to make room for his heartless video…bye bye FloRida, LOL)

I thought it was just me — chat is broken !

It is almost time. HOoray!

How lame would it be for Simon to reveal the winner on the red carpet? Somehow I don’t think he would do that.

I think I’ll save my angst for the moment of the reveal

I’m out of chat too, guys. trying to get my Internet to work, hope to be in soon…

Simon looked awfully happy, though. So, I’m not worried he said there could be an upset. That guy’s face doesn’t hold back.

Chat

Can I have another stream link please. USStream isn’t working too well for me.

Why do you bother to watch and comment if you feel this way, just wondering. If I hated something that much I wouldnt waste my time

I explained this earlier this week. It’s like one of those shows you start out watching, but then it suddenly starts to suck. But, you have this twisted fascination to see how it ends and a warped determination to stick it out until it’s over, even though all the while you wish it would just GO AWAY!

And for the record, other people said they understood completely. Besides agreeing with me about Idol, they specifically mentioned the show “Alias”. Apparently loyal fans felt it went downhill at the end….

But, I do appreciate your concern about my time-management and how I spend my leisure-hours. So thoughtful of you….

With these two guys, this is a win-win situation.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/American-Idol-2-hour-Finale-Adam-Kris-Results

ENJOY THE SHOW EVERYBODY!!!!!!

Can we set up another chat somewhere? I can’t do this alone!! And Sarah needs us!!

Wow. 1oo million votes last night. Unbelievable.

When I was four, my best friend had her tonsils out. When I was told about it, in advance, that she would get to eat ice cream all day, I so wanted that to be me that I actually convinced myself that it was me, even to the point of packing a bag to go stay in the hospital the next day. That’s when I learned that I could talk myself into believing anything, if I really wanted it.

So, this morning, I got this idea that, since the whole world recognized that “No Boundaries” was a toxic waste dump of a song, that they’d throw it out and release some other song as the first single of whomever wins. By the end of the day, that wish had become something that I totally believed was true. Like all day ice cream for a 4 year old.

But reading that the hideous thing has already been recorded, I am now crushed. However, having gotten to used to the fact that I never was destined to get my tonsils out, I can get used to this, too.

Ky- Hold me…..

Randy looks good tonight. Last night, not so much. Hated the suit/shirt/tie combo last night. Tonight, cooler. Well, a little cooler.

Hah. Archie dodged the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“who do you think will winà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  question with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m here. To find outà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

That’s a classic Archie. :laugh_tb:

I explained this earlier this week. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like one of those shows you start out watching, but then it suddenly starts to suck. But, you have this twisted fascination to see how it ends and a warped determination to stick it out until ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s over, even though all the while you wish it would just GO AWAY!

Or you just watch because you are totally in to a blog and wants to know what are people talking about….

ETA.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a classic Archie.

Like totatlly :thumbup_tb: there should be a book with the kid onE liners… he is hillarious…

just got into chat!

I set up an alternate chatroom. No password required.

Nevermind, back on – but feel free to use that if it fails again.

Why oh why do they insist on putting men in white???

Oh for Pete’s sake fix their mics.

Simon doesnt know diddly – he is just trying to create drama and pull in more viewers

“”"But, I do appreciate your concern about my time-management and how I spend my leisure-hours. So thoughtful of youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.”"”

Not concerned, just wondering, no need to thank me

Alli, Adam & Kris look perfect together.

Ok that has to be the best, most enthusiastic group number ever!

Reunion… Archie and Cook ´s hug captured on video….

Simon doesnt know diddly – he is just trying to create drama and pull in more viewers

Yep.

I thought it was just Kris speaking low into the mic but both of them were screwy. Geez………stupid show.

OMG. It is David Cook already. I just love him so much!

Really? Cause if I remember right he looked rather shocked when Taylor won.

No Simon called it for Taylor the night before. Kathryn totally screwed up on her coronation song. I still see her mother’s look of horror.

Btw, Taylor led on dial idol all season long. If you weren’t expecting a Taylor win, you just weren’t paying attention…imo.

I wonder if he has missed the swaybots.

David Cook is really growing on me…I was an Archie fan last year but I am glad Cook is successful too…GO Davids!

I love his band, too. I hope they talk to him a little bit. He is my favorite idol ever. Last year was so awesome. I will be as close to as happy if Kris wins tonight though. This song is so hard for him because it holds such personal meaning.

What a classy guy he is. I really think he is completely awesome.

I actually hate these things where they make fun of these poor guys who really can’t sing. It just seems really mean to me. I hate when they laugh at them and make fun of them.

Cookieeeeeeeeeeee!!!

He friggin rocks! For a sec felt like we were reliving last year…love my Cookmeister!!

Is Simon ADD or what? He’s always looking somewhere else.

Kris & Keith rocked!

am i going deaf? or is the whole mic situation bad tonight?

gokey. ugh.

Wow, what a shocker! It was the best finale I have ever seen until the results. I was really expecting Danny and Adam to be in the final. I admit Kris has an ok voice and did some good arrangements, but his talent is at such a lower level than what Adam can offer. He has such a limited vocal range and always seemed to be straining. Adam has a very bright career ahead of him, like Elvis. Even Elvis lost singing competitions. Adam will be a music icon for decades to come, probably the most successful idol ever. He was always so nice, gracious, and respectful. I totally believe they need to change how the voting is done. Maybe get rid of texting or do online or limit the # of votes each person can use. They do it on all the other shows as well as for president. It would be much more fair. I hate to say that things were rigged or that there were political issues at work here, but I have to wonder. The judges seemed stunned, and you could tell Simon wasn’t happy. Look at what Chris Daughtry has done or jennifer hudson, and they didn’t win. Only 2 winners are still remembered even: Carrie and the 1st year’s winner. Maybe it’s a blessing in disguise that Adam didn’t get the title that he totally deserved. He’ll sell millions ofrecords and get real awards for his talent. He will be remembered forever for his true talent!