UPDATE:   Ellen signed a 5 year deal. Seriously.   And I’ll bet she’ll be making way more money than what Paula was offered. (Read it at Nikki Finke.)   The producers call Ellen “warm, compassionate” with an incredible sense of humor and a love of music.   I think TPTB had their sights set on hiring an a-lister rather than say, a pop singer who has seen better days (what Paula was when they hired her).   Obviously, with some of the choices they made for guest judges (Neil Patrick Harris, Kristin Chenoweth) the producers were thinking out of the box when considering their next hire.   Ellen does have a fan base all her own, and the curiosity factor will bring in viewers.   Plus, Ellen will pimp the hell out of the show (she kinda already does) on her talk show.   But man, she really was awkward and unfunny when she guest judged on SYTYCD over the summer, so I hope that she brushes up on her skills between now and November…

Found this at NJ.com:

Fox just announced that Ellen DeGeneres will be the new fourth judge on “American Idol,” replacing Paula Abdul, beginning her role after a series of special guest fill-ins (including Victoria Beckham, Mary J. Blige, Kristin Chenoweth, Joe Jonas, Neil Patrick Harris, Avril Lavigne, Katy Perry and Shania Twain) fill in for next season’s audition rounds.

I mean, really? Ellen DeGeneres? She guest judged So You Think You Can Dance last Season, and her critiques were comic relief.

So, is she going to be a real judge or some kind of joke? She’s a comedian, not a singer or a musician. I’m kinda flummoxed here.

Erm. I’ll have more to say on this later.

Ellen announces it on her show. Check it out after the Jump… She says she loves Idol and she loves music, and she won’t be looking at it from a technical standpoint, but from somebody at home who is looking to buy the contestant’s record.

By the way, I thought she was terrible as guest judge on So You Think You Can Dance. Her shtick wasn’t even funny.

Video after the JUMP…

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  • yinyang

    Wow, I just saw a tweet on this. I thought that it was a joke at first, but, well, I was wrong. Wow. Just wow. I think that Ellen is very funny, but that’s not the main criteria for a judge….

  • alison8701

    I LOVE ELLEN! I DON’T EVEN CARE IF SHE’S NOT TECHNICALLY QUALIFIED I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE HER!

  • Studio57

    EW is reporting it now too. The only thing I can think of is they want another “sweet” judge. When are they going to realize no one gives a rats ass about any judge but Simon? It should be about the contestants

  • blmetsfan

    This is kind of shocking. She’ll keep the show entertaining, but lots of WTH? kind of moments popping up in my head.

    And, man, Paula is seriously done. I (and I bet she) always thought they’d come back to renegotiate. I guess not.

  • Truthiness

    Not to spam, but as per the Headlines thread, Ellen confirmed via her Twitter.

    And I think it’s a terrible choice. She was bad on SYTYCD and she knows even less about music than she does about dance, which isn’t a lot.

    Being nice and famous are not qualifications for knowing how to judge music and what can be successful.

    Of all the choices, they choose HER?!

    I blame Ken Warwick.

  • jill16

    This must be some kind of joke. I love Ellen, but what qualifications does she have to judge a singing performance. This can’t be right.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    Looking at calendar.

    No, not April first.

    Hmm.

    Love her, but — f’reel? (puzzled)

  • dsp

    Ellen and simon …….would def make it worth watching. hilarious

  • dsp

    Ellen and simon …….would def make it worth watching. hilarious

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    Fine, I can stomp here just as well.

    This is STUPID. In fact it is SO idiotic that it defies belief.

    Her music cred is…what??!!!

  • lizland

    I think this could be okay. She was succinct and very funny on SYTYCD. Which will be a nice switch from the other 3. She better not try to make it the Ellen show, though. I still wish there were only 3 judges.

  • Trina

    Congrats AI, you officially jumped the shark.

  • Sherena

    I don’t watch a lot of tv, but from the few clips I’ve seen of her she’s amazing. Funny and warm. I love her.

    But really? Does that… does Ellen even do music? *flummoxed*

    ETA: Err. What’s going on? None of my comments are showing up after this one.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    At least there’s no chance of a weird drunken flirtation between her and Simon.

  • cookcricket

    A comedian isn’t a performer? I think it’s what’s needed for the ratings. She will have to prove herself though for people to listen to her critiques-if she gives any…

    ETA: Oh yeah and imo Ellen>Paula. Yep, for AI that is.

  • koshka

    Ellen may not have the background, but since when is AI really about strictly judging talent?

    I was going to blow off this next season seeing how they were failing at the format, but I think I’ll tune in after all.

  • poporange

    Ok I also thought it was a joke but I guess not..I do like Ellen show and she did a good as a host..I guess wait and see…

  • Aileen

    Well, that will make it a conflict of interest for eliminated AI contestants to appear on the Ellen show.

  • LaraC

    This is huge.

    Ellen = VERY likeable, smart & funny. This is a genious move for the show.

    So she’s a comedian. It’s not like paula was there for her deep insight. With paula gone, they were missing the funny, and with ellen they got it back big time.

  • lilmisspink

    wow. I love Ellen but this is absolutely ridiculous.

  • Truthiness

    I think this could be okay. She was succinct and very funny on SYTYCD

    I thought she was terrible as a judge on SYTYCD. She didn’t know what she was talking about, it was obvious, and she didn’t say anything to the point.

  • leome

    I love her, so I don’t mind this at all!
    I mean, she can’t be more useless than Paula and Randy anyway. At least she’s funny.
    I think it could be interesting.
    And maybe Randy can start giving really good criticism.

    I thought she was terrible as a judge on SYTYCD. She didn’t know what she was talking about, it was obvious, and she didn’t say anything to the point.

    I think it’s easier to talk about music than dancing when one is not exactly in the industry.

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    I think this could be okay. She was succinct and very funny on SYTYCD.

    I disagree completely. AI is *supposed* to be about finding a recording artist. The judges are supposed to KNOW about the recording industry and make comments/recommendations based on their knowledge and experience. “Funny” doesn’t even remotely count as a qualification.

    I repeat: This is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID

  • Sherena

    I LOVE ELLEN! I DON’T EVEN CARE IF SHE’S NOT TECHNICALLY QUALIFIED I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE HER!

    YAY ME TOOOOOOO <3333333

    although idk if i'm qualified to love her since i haven't seen a lot of her show. but i guess that makes it more special that i love her after just a few clips? lol.

    So I'm thinking this over and getting more and more happy about it. Just because Ellen doesn't do music doesn't mean she doesn't have good taste in it, and I'm sure she'll outjudge any of the judges we have now. At least if Simon keeps being bored.

  • koshka

    I bet Ellen is getting more than 2 Million!! LOL

  • CaliforniaGirl

    No, I don’t like this at all. What are they thinking??

    Ellen is good at comedy but has zero knowledge or credibility in the music world. It’ll make for some cringe-worthy TV.

    I don’t want to see Ellen on AI. For me, this would be almost as bad as if they chose Joan Rivers (which thankfully, they did not).

    If anything, just bring back Paula and call it a day….

  • tiger92

    I love Ellen, really…I do. I was so looking forward to her appearance as judge on SYTYCD, but it was just awkward. I think AI is on a downhill slide. They are headed towards the shark!

  • alison8701

    I thought she was terrible as a judge on SYTYCD. She didn’t know what she was talking about, it was obvious, and she didn’t say anything to the point.

    Well, there’s a difference between dancing and singing.. and as far as technical terms go and stuff. I’m not sure you can compare the two.

    Plus, like someone else said, she can’t be anymore useless than Randy or Paula.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    I freaking love Ellen, but as a judge on a singing competition? AI is going downhill and quick.

  • dv

    Video of Ellen announcing it on her show

    HERE

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    Aileen
    September 9, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Well, that will make it a conflict of interest for eliminated AI contestants to appear on the Ellen show.

    I’m not sure about that. Ryan Seacrest used to have eliminated contestants on his TV show a few years back. I remember Jennifer Hudson singing “Weekend in New England” and thinking what idiots Americans were for letting her get away.

  • will

    I think “flummoxed” would describe most of our reactions to this news, MJ. I can’t even process it. Here’s a blurb in EW, so I guess it’s official.

    http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/09/09/ellen-degeneres-joins-american-idol/

  • s0x_prisoner

    That’s surprising. I LOVE Ellen, but… it doesn’t seem like she’d be that good of a judge. I can’t see her critiquing anyone.

  • leome

    Maybe we’ll have more Normand Gentle contestants? That would be fun.

  • koshka

    I disagree completely. AI is *supposed* to be about finding a recording artist. The judges are supposed to KNOW about the recording industry and make comments/recommendations based on their knowledge and experience. ‘Funny’  doesn’t even remotely count as a qualification.

    I repeat: This is STUPID

    Not really directed at this poster, but just sort of at the concept of AI & their purpose.

    But the show REALLY is not about this. It is a reality show. As much as I have loved some of the past AI winners & runner ups… I don’t think this is the cream of the crop by any stretch of the imagination. The show is CASTED, the TPTB make decisions on appearance, backstories, likability, genres & talent. It wouldn’t be hard to guess that some of the best are cut early on.

  • Sherena

    I LOVE ELLEN! I DON’T EVEN CARE IF SHE’S NOT TECHNICALLY QUALIFIED I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE HER!

    Me too! <3
    The more I think about this the more I'm getting behind it. I mean, when do Randy or Kara, or heck, even Simon make comments that actually make me see a new side/reevaluate a performer? Never. Simon is awesome and I love listening to his comments but not because I need his guidance in forming my opinion, because he's an interesting character.

    I posted a comment like this but less coherent and it disappeared into cyberspace.

  • becausehelives

    o nooo. why did ellen accept. I like her too much for this. people will snark on her and call her names. it will all be a big fat joke.

  • LilMarie

    I love Ellen, but this is ridiculous… What advice can she possibly give to the contestants ???

  • Truthiness

    Plus, like someone else said, she can’t be anymore useless than Randy or Paula.

    Well more useless than Randy, sure. But Paula for all of her faults, and Randy for his, actually have had to make it in the biz. Randy is producing former AI idol Brooke White’s new album, what is Ellen going to be doing? Hosting them on her show afterwards?

  • yinyang

    Plus, like someone else said, she can’t be anymore useless than Randy or Paula.

    But if we’re going to have someone useless, let’s stick with 3 judges, (or even 2!), and let the top 10 actually perform more, without the show running over time.

    I really do think that Ellen is funny, but that’s not the criteria for deciding who gets a shot at a record contract. There are lots of musicians who are funny, and know the industry!

  • HappyDaisy

    What the……???? What are they doing to AI????

    AI is moving more and more away from a music reality show to just another contrived reality show that is insulting to viewers.

    A daily talk show is not enough for Ellen? Who’s next as the fifth judge? Regis? Rachel Ray? Nancy Grace? It’s ridiculous.

  • butte009

    I like Ellen. Not sure about her being an AI judge though…

    She should have some zingers for Ryan and Simon.

  • dhunken

    I think they picked her because she is nice and will always have some words of encouragement for the contestants. If it was to pick a comedian I could understand but for an AI contestant I still wish they would have picked Cyndi Lauper or Pat Benatar.

  • Valentin432

    They are definetly going for personality and charisma instead of competence.

    For me for you Ellen>>>Paula

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    OMG! This is so brilliant!

    After all, the whole appeal was not Pauler’s musical knowledge (ahem) or talent (ahem), but the chemistry she had with Simon and her support of the contestants.

    Ellen will be able to bring well-needed freshness to the panel and also some comic relief.

    Also, Simon isn’t a musician. Neither was Pauler.

  • PRMari

    Ellen? WTF? I love her but 4Realzzz???

  • NewFan

    I love Cyndi Lauper but she’s more of a space cadet than Paula could ever be.

    I agree with becausehelives. This could be a really bad choice for Ellen. Forget AI. She’s doing so well. Why would she want to jeopardize it by putting herself in line for a lot of heated criticism?

    Perhaps, today they get public opinion and tomorrow, they announce that it’s just a joke.

  • KenzTK

    I LOVE ELLEN!..but hm this is a very unexpected choice because she obviously has no musical experience. But I think this is good for the show because she will be Americas judge and won’t have the technical speak but she will be real and like good music like all of us and won’t play favorites. I know she loves music and that is exactly what this show needs, a real fan that loves music and doesn’t care about all the things that go into the show.

  • shanz88

    I don’t really see what’s wrong with this… with Simon you have a music executive, Randy, a musician/producer, Kara, a songwriter/producer/somewhat singer. I think Ellen could do a good job representing us in a way, as the audience who may look at an artist from outside the industry. Would she buy their music? I feel that makes her as important as the other judges who are involved in the actual industry.

    Plus, like others have said, she is in the entertainment industry, which includes music.

  • catherine1987

    I think she will provide a much needed comedic relief, and an “average American” point of view. It will definitely bring in more casual viewers, which us Idol fanatics tend to forget, is a good thing.

  • NewFan

    sorry pj

    gotta disagree with you about Paula. she has the knowledge and the experience in spades more than any of the others including Kara)(… just not the lucidity and, therefore, not the respect that she deserved).

  • selena

    YAYYYY……………………………what a brilliant move. I can’t wait to see her..

    voice of the people…………….

    Wow what great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Valentin432

    I agree with becausehelives. This could be a really bad choice for Ellen. Forget AI. She’s doing so well. Why would she want to jeopardize it by putting herself in line for a lot of heated criticism?

    AI is the biggest show on TV, she’s going to get amazing publicity from that and it’s only two nights per week.
    She would have been crazy to not accept it.

  • LaraC

    Why would she want to jeopardize it by putting herself in line for a lot of heated criticism?

    $$$$$$$$$.

    But I do agree it’s a bad move for her. She’s so loved right now, it can only go downhill.

  • larc

    This has to be some bad joke. I can think of many people better qualified than Ellen who still wouldn’t be sufficiently qualified. She’ll spend all her time trying to act cutesy poo. :(

  • Dr. Tracey

    Wow, please say it ain’t so. Ellen was crap on SYTYCD, I don’t want to listen to her stupid comments on Idol either.
    Oh well if it’s true I guess i’ll have some free tv time coming next year.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    She’s so excited…you have to give her some points for enthusiasm!

  • terps

    I love it, the need somebody to cut the tention sometimes

  • Niall

    Huh. I’m not sure what to say. I like Ellen but I’m just not understanding why she, of all people, would be the 4th judge.

  • selena

    Im so excited I have to post again……………………LOOOVE her-
    she will be incredible

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    gotta disagree with you about Paula. she has the knowledge and the experience in spades more than any of the others including Kara)

    She had experience as a choreographer and a dancer. As a singer, eh, we all know about that. Anyone can have an opinion on singing. I’m not sure her’s was that valuable.

  • lizland

    I like it because they finally have a judge that is like us, a music fan. They already have industry insiders, so we don’t need another one. I’ll enjoy someone with passion for music, but still a “common mans” opinion. And she is funny. And as someone else said, this should cut back on the sexual innuendo/hijinks between Simon and a judge and Simon and Ryan (or I hope so, anyway – so lame).

  • will

    At least there’s no chance of a weird drunken flirtation between her and Simon.

    LOL! Well, perhaps he’ll be less distracted now and actually pay attention during performances. Now that the “sexual tension” storyline has been jettisoned.

    So many questions: Does this mean Ellen will be there during all of Hollywood week? How’s she going to work that into her schedule?

    I have to say that the video linked by dv is at least a reminder that she’s always been a stalwart and loyal fan of the show, so she does have that going for her. And even though she may have sucked as a judge on SYTYCD, I think it’s much more difficult for a layman to critique dance than pop music, so it’s probably unfair to make any prediction based on her appearance there. It’s like comparing an apple to a banana [tm Simon].

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    An AI judge! based on what? her experience as a comedian?!
    Is this addition supposed to reduce the focus on the judges?! Ha.

  • cookcricket

    Ellen was only a “guest judge” on SYTYCD. She wasn’t as funny as I thought she would be, but I still loved seeing her on there. (And for some reason I’m thinking that when she appeared it was a last minute thing, or not.)

    I don’t think she jumped into this w/o thinking what kind of role she’ll play on the panel. I also think she will be able to bring some good insights to the contestants as well as warmth and kindness. And I’m sure the funny. :D

  • MagazineFreak

    What an unbelievably bad idea. Yeah, she’s funny and much-loved right now. But she was useless as a judge of SYTYCD. To the point of being completely frustrating. And at least she enjoys dancing, to my knowledge she cannot sing, nor has any experience in the music industry.

    I’m sad. This is going to become even more about the judges and less about the talent ON the stage.

  • NewFan

    Don’t think she needs more money or more exposure. Kinda figured she was happy with an excellent daytime talk show where she’s brilliant and as, someone else pointed out, loved. She obviously believes that it will be a fun gig but look what happened to Kara .. and this could be much worse.

  • terps

    Ellen brings in the perspective of the fan. She has no singing/producing/song writing backround. she is like having us be the judge. Like she said she has been watching the show forever

  • suebrody

    I dunno. I like it. Ellen loves Idol, she’s fun and funny, she doesn’t need to know the technical side of singing to make useful comments (which is why I did NOT like her on SYTYCD, tho she was great with the S5 Top 10 this week), and I think she can take on Simon. Idol was getting stale, and the new changes weren’t working. I say huzzah, TPTB.

  • TopCatDC

    Paula’s chair on Idol was a black hole of fluffy nothingness. Yes, she had music industry experience, but she had nothing of value to say or share. Now it will be filled by someone with intelligence and wit who is a fan of the show. Good move on Fox’s part. Any of the temps that have been filling in for auditions would end up being seen as a new “Paula”. Ellen is her own brand. She’s a totally new direction.

  • HotHotHot

    I think this could be okay. She was succinct and very funny on SYTYCD.

    I thought she was terrible on SYTYCD. I just wanted her to shut up.

  • jpfan

    This will just focus more time on the judges. Ellen will be the nice one who comes up with the funny.

    She was bad on the dance show though. Complete waste of space.
    I wish they’d just stick with 3 judges.

  • spring2009

    Argh. Really, I flove Ellen – on Ellen. SYTYCD was really kind of silly. (not to mention that I am pissed at her – am in California in a couple of weeks and despite there being tickets to the day I tried for, didn’t get a call. WTF is that about?)

  • alison8701

    I don’t careee, I loveeeee her. Let’s take bets. Hit or Miss? I say hit!

  • CaliforniaGirl

    Big time. MISS!

    If Ellen decides not to come back for season 10 who can we expect then? Bill O’REilly??

  • Truthiness

    I like it because they finally have a judge that is like us, a music fan. They already have industry insiders, so we don’t need another one. I’ll enjoy someone with passion for music, but still a ‘common mans’  opinion

    But that’s what the actual fans who vote, do. They don’t need a judge to represent them, THEY represent them with their votes. The judges should act as a voice of knowledge that the audience might not have about the industry having been in it and done it.

    As for Paula’s “singing,” sucking, she still had at least a hugely popular album, which is more than Ellen has, so yes, Paula does have more knowledge beyond just her dancing.

  • aek

    I like Ellen, but not as the fourth judge on AI. Sorry, I’d rather have Paula.

  • fearbear

    Well she’ll keep it funny! :) Kara’s already there for the singing related comments and the other boring stuff anyway.

  • tierbee

    Aw, I love Ellen – I hope it works out.

  • progression

    Last season the show took a huge turn away from focusing on music and the contestants, and towards entertainment. This is another move in that direction IMO. I guess if they are going that route Ellen is a good choice – she likable, funny and brings a huge fanbase with her. But I’m not a fan of the strategy or the new production team at all.

  • becausehelives

    She better be serious with this . keep her comedy on her talk show. cos people take AI a little too seriously. if she comes with the jokes like she did on SYTYCD, people will get tired and upset in abt a minute.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    Wonder what Slezak’s take on Ellen will be. He has lots to say about Kara and Randy.

  • NewFan

    HISS

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    I still maintain that AI is supposed to be a competition to find a recording artist. ISN’T THAT WHAT THE WHOLE DEAL WAS WITH **ADAM** THIS SEASON??!!!

    I see what you’re saying, koshka, about AI being merely a scripted reality show, but I just can’t agree. Dhunken, I think you’re ideas for judge-artists along the lines of Cyndi Lauper or Pat Benatar are right on target.

    IMO, Ellen is completely irrelvant to what the show has been reportedly trying to accomplish, particularly in light of the recent talent of David Cook, Adam, and even more “indy” types such as Brooke White and Jason Castro (his Atlantic contract notwithstanding).

    slow refresh makes editing frustrating, particularly when in rant mode!!

  • will

    EWMichaelSlezakLove Ellen DeGeneres, but as a permanent judge on Idol? Ummm. http://bit.ly/1tZWaRabout 1 hour ago from web

    EWMichaelSlezakI’m gonna have to have a think, maybe a strong vodka-based drink, and drop some thoughts on PopWatch in the a.m., son!about 1 hour ago from web

  • HotHotHot

    Ellen brings in the perspective of the fan. She has no singing/producing/song writing backround.

    We don’t need the fan perspective, we need a knowledgeable judge. Not rambling little comic routines in the middle of the judges comments. Ugh!!! Now I’m for sure not watching next year!

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    will
    September 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    EWMichaelSlezakLove Ellen DeGeneres, but as a permanent judge on Idol? Ummm. http://bit.ly/1tZWaRabout 1 hour ago from web

    EWMichaelSlezakI’m gonna have to have a think, maybe a strong vodka-based drink, and drop some thoughts on PopWatch in the a.m., son!about 1 hour ago from web

    Thanks for answering my question SteveWill. :)

  • Valentin432

    AI is a tv show first and foremost, the ratings are going down each and every year. All the guest judges are really famous people who could help reboost the show.

    The producers went with the most competent person they could find last year with Kara and people hated it.

  • Sherena

    repeat

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Look… the show is cast. Who wins will be who delivers. The judges do pimp, but the most direction to the at-home audience comes through how the show is produced, from song selction down to performance order.

    I think Ellen will bring some much-needed freshness to the show. THE SHOW is what makes money, not the post-Idol careers of the kids. The show is a great vehicle for them, but looking at is at a tv show, I think Ellen is a great choice IF there was to be a forth judge.

  • soveryMel

    Well, I’m not entirely sure how I feel about this. I mean in theory I would want someone with music industry experience, but they can’t suck at giving short sweet soundbites during judging, which is where the whole Kara experiment went a bit awry. I get the concept of someone to represent the fan at home, but I’m not sure that’s really needed when we’re ALREADY at home voting.

    I will say one thing, though. I’ve been on the fence about watching S9, I just wasn’t sure it could live up to S8 for me, color me apathetic. But now, I have a little spark of interest to see what exactly Ellen will do. So at least for me, their strategy may be working.

  • lamslova

    So AI wouldnt show Paula the money.. I wonder what Ellen’s salary will be?

  • Truthiness

    Last season the show took a huge turn away from focusing on music and the contestants, and towards entertainment. This is another move in that direction IMO. I guess if they are going that route Ellen is a good choice ‘“ she likable, funny and brings a huge fanbase with her. But I’m not a fan of the strategy or the new production team at all.

    This. Absolutely this.

  • flashus

    Putting Ellen on Idol is like putting “Joe the Plumber” in politics. Just Ughhhh!

  • alxsavage

    Who cares about technical comments? It’s not like we get a lot of technical value from the judges every episode.

    Ellen is funny, Ellen is a beloved tv star, and I personally, absolutely enjoy everything she does and can’t wait to see her judging.

  • Ellie2

    I don’t careee, I loveeeee her. Let’s take bets. Hit or Miss? I say hit!

    I say hit, too! I love Ellen. And come on, it’s not like Randy or Kara ever have anything that intelligent to say and they are supposed to know all about the music side of the entertainment industry. I think Ellen will be good at saying what many of us who are watching at home are thinking. And she’s excited about doing it. Her outright enthusiasm will go a long way, IMO.

  • Kitwana

    This is a publicity stunt. It must be. Even the AI producers can’t be stupid enough to think that Ellen will help the show.

  • JudyOhio

    I thought Paula did a really good job this last season (which redeemed her quite a bit in my eyes). I thought for sure all the Paula is gone stuff was just hype for her big, triumphant return after auditions. Guess not. Would have never predicted this. Wow. I do like Ellen, BUT if she comes across as she did on SYTYCD, well…….that will be a big mistake. I like the more serious judging mainly because I think the kids deserve a quality critique after their performances. Hope Ellen will do that. If she goes the comic route and is sitting in the order where Simon will talk after her, it could just set up Simon to be all stupid acting and feeding/reacting to Ellen’s humor. “Stupid acting” because Simon has lousy comedic timing.

  • luvadamlambert

    like paula better.thatsux.but ellen?HELL YEAH!!!

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    I still maintain that AI is supposed to be a competition to find a recording artist. ISN’T THAT WHAT THE WHOLE DEAL WAS WITH **ADAM** THIS SEASON??!!!

    I see what you’re saying, koshka, about AI being merely a scripted reality show, but I just can’t agree. Dhunken, I think your ideas for judge-artists along the lines of Cyndi Lauper or Pat Benatar are right on target.

    IMO, Ellen is completely irrelvant to what the show has been reportedly trying to accomplish, particularly in light of the recent talent discovered by the show such as David Cook, Adam, and even more “indy” types such as Brooke White and Jason Castro (his Atlantic contract notwithstanding).

    Argh!! Site so slow I can’t tell if my comments are even going through! Repost.

  • ppwars

    Damn! They should have hired Oprah instead of Kara – along with Ellen, a perfect panel. They would be great deciders.

  • Dr. Tracey

    It’s all about the ratings.

  • JP

    I think this is stunt casting intended to keep AI from being deadly boring going into its 9th year. It has become incredibly rote even with the addition of Kara to the panel. They should’ve just kept the panel to the three remaining judges. If we think the over-runs were bad last year, it’s going to be even worse with Ellen adding her stand-up routine to the judging.

    As much as I enjoy Ellen’s humor, I think this is a huge mistake.

  • DLee

    I love Ellen and I think she will be fabulous on the show. The judging part has become the most boring part of the show, she will add humor and wit….and…..she adores Adam!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sherena

    Who cares about technical comments? It’s not like we get a lot of technical value from the judges every episode.

    Pretty much this.

    I’ll make up my own mind each week. The judges we have right now, Randy, Kara, and Simon, haven’t been delivering any truly insightful perspectives at all. The music business is really just about opinions and luck… there is a certain amount of knowledge you can have in it, but the experts constantly fail and predict things wrong too.

    How many times do you have to hear about “artistry” or “pitchy, dawg” to realize that no, industry experience– of which Kara and Randy have tons– is pretty useless?

  • Susan M.

    I don’t know. I’m liking this. Ellen does know music. You ever notice she knows every lyric to every song she dances to or is performed on her show? She also seems deeply knowledgeable about acts I’ve never heard of before. So she’s not a recording artist, but she knows the industry and all the major players and is passionate about multiple genres.

    She also can be honest without being hateful, kind without gushing EVERY time (though she WILL gush, as they should when they’re legitimately moved). She will be earnest and not tune out because she’s “bored.”

    I do think it’s strange they leapt right to this permanent replacement without putting the temporaries side-by-side. She has tremendous entertainment industry credibility and respect and is pretty universally loved in Hollywood. The schedule might be another story though.

  • Kanadie Bonttell

    I don’t think it matters who’s on the judges panel as long as Simon is there..IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    They don’t decide. They just comment. ;-)

    Something needs to breath life into this show, and I think Ellen could be better than some other lame ass person like Posh Spice.

    As someone else said, Randy isn’t really using his so-called expertise when he fails to like anything other than belters and rockers. Oh, and lets not forget his 3rd grade vocabulary. All the musical knowledge in the world is useless AS A JUDGE if you can’t express yourself.

    How about starting a #fireRandyJackson Twitter party?

  • sbalk017

    I think Ellen’s going to mirror the Idol Nation’s thoughts, dare I say it, MORE than an industry insider (read: Randy, Kara, and Simon) because she’s a fan of the show. It would be like Slezak judging… and I know a lot of us would LOOOVE that. Plus, her interviews with the Idols are some of my favorites.

    It could be worse. They could have hired another Kara.

    I’m tired of the pimping of package artists and backstories and throwing everyone else under the bus. I wish that they would bring in a judge who tells it like it is, but that’s never gonna happen.

  • richie10

    This just proves once again that AI is nothing more than a variety show to entertain the masses. I knew after watching the horrendous finale of season 8 with an average singer winning over one of the most incredible singers out there that this show was not to be taken seriously. I love Ellen but if I’m proving my worth as a singer to a panel of judges, then those judges better be qualified to judge.

  • rblaha1234

    Do not quit your day job Ellen. I did not like you on SYTYCD.
    YOU were not funny and just took up time. 4 judges is too many on AI.
    I do not think this is a good idea.

  • sidewalkstory

    This will just focus more time on the judges.

    My sentiments exactly. I was hoping the show would go back to being about the singers.

  • J.S.G.

    Ellen as a judge will reverse the trend of Idol taking itself so seriously.
    It is disposable pop music – nothing more, nothing less .

  • ALYESKA2

    O-M-G!!! AMERICAN IDOL POWERS TO BE… YOU HAVE LOST YOUR COLLECTIVE MINDS!!!! First they push Paula out, than they have rotating non-musical guests that have no business judging young, aspiring talent that have more musical knowledge in their little pinky than the “guest stars” judging them! (Victoria Beckham???, oh please!) her career consists of walking around with a sour milk look on her face! Adding Kara, adding nauseous to what used to be a perfect balance, All this over money honey $$$? wonder what they are going to pay Ellen (whom I like by the way) who completely bombed out on So You Think You Can Dance! Please… hire me! I will accept half the pay you will be shelling out to Ellen and I have 30yrs experience in the music business and have owned my own recording studio for more than 20!
    Simon! Do something! This has got to be some kind of really bad joke on the viewing audience and an even worse joke on any contestants being judged by a comedian who’s musical talent runs to doing a cute little jig dance in a commercial with a bunch of animals! Way to go A.I. right out the back door!

  • HotHotHot

    I think AI will lose all credibility with Ellen on the panel (the little bit they have left, anyway). I like Ellen but not here.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Informal facebook reactions from non-Idol obsessives are positive!

    Again, if they were gonna have 4 judges, I think she’s a great choice. They seemed kinda set on the 4 judge format.

    For those who like the 3 judge format, I repeat:

    #fireRandyJackson

    ETA: I enjoyed her on SYTYCD. Think she’ll be better on Idol. Different strokes. I seriously doubt anyone but obsessive Idol fans will be upset.

  • Natasha

    I like Ellen a lot but I think this may be a bad match.

    I guess they think Ellen will be like Paula – she’ll find something nice to say and not be critical since when Simon comes on her show she’s always after him for being too tough on the contestants. She’ll argue with Simon the way Paula did. Thing is, at least Paula was a recording artist. Ellen has no connection to the music industry at all.

    I can see people thinking Ellen will be the viewers representative on the panel but I don’t think it will work out well. Not if this goes the way it did when she was on SYTYCD.

    Ultimately I think Simon is the only judge who matters. Everyone else is just noise.

  • http://www.wholisticbirthways.net austinmidwife

    Susan M. I think I’m with you on this:

    She also can be honest without being hateful, kind without gushing EVERY time (though she WILL gush, as they should when they’re legitimately moved). She will be earnest and not tune out because she’s ‘bored.’ 

    I like Ellen. I think she will be entertaining and fresh. And if, I don’t like her or find her comments as useless as Randy’s, I will simply fast forward. I love my DVR….

  • steph6449

    huuuuuuuuuh?

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    I’ve said my bit. Still think this is pathetic.

    [going off in disgust to work on my still-unfinished report]

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Here’s another thing… I’m guessing Ellen is probably commanding some big bucks. Unlike Paula, she doesn’t need Idol. I’m guessing they did some focus groups to find out if it was a good idea with the general public before bringing her on in such a high profile spot. That would mesh with what I’m seeing in peeps comments on facebook.

  • Q3

    I don’t think most people will be upset, I just think that some people will stop watching Idol. JMHO. But I think this is a foolish choice — and that Ellen will not be a good judge.

    But I do hear the music playing and a voice singing…

    “Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear
    And it shows them pearly white
    Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe
    And he keeps it ‘ ¦ ah ‘ ¦ out of sight.

    Ya know when that shark bites, with his teeth, babe
    Scarlet billows start to spread …

    And, in the near future, I can actually see the shark leaping into the air …

  • abbysee

    I didn’t read any comments, I am perplexed. It does seem that the show has really jumped the shark. WTF does Ellen have to do with finding a recording star. What kind of insight can she bring that someone who is funny AND has some viable connection to the recording industry can’t? I love Ellen. She’s funny as hell. She’s popular, and I know she loves music. But c’mon, this is just ridiculous.

  • Suzanne

    This is like when Rosie joined the View. Ellen is great, really great. But she’ll be the center of it. Maybe they can do the show with animated characters or robots as contestants because it really won’t be about them anymore. (It barely was last year.)

  • poporange

    Already stated

  • Dr. Tracey

    Ellen’s comments might be entertaining for a week or two but her shtick will get old really fast.
    Personally as a viewer and music fan i’d rather have someone judge these kids who has experience in the music business, otherwise what’s the point. The whole concept of Idol has changed and not for the better imo.

  • sidewalkstory

    I still see the show running overtime. Ellen is not one of few words.

  • soccerboi

    Let’s be real here…Paula was too nice to the contestants anyway. She didnt offer any criticsm so it shouldn’t be that hard for Ellen to replace that. AND she will be way funnier than Paula. AND we don’t have to watch all that sexual tension between Simon and Paula…Ellen surely won’t appreciate it.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    gotta disagree with you about Paula. she has the knowledge and the experience in spades more than any of the others including Kara)

    SYTYC dance has 4 judges and it never runs over. Blame that on the producers. They can make the show longer and use less time in other ways.

    I miss Nigel.

  • alison8701

    Plus, Ellen is really pretty!

  • HotHotHot

    Hey!! Maybe this is Simon’s way of killing the show so he can bring X-Factor in with no competition! That’s it! AI jumps the shark!!

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    LOL, TPTB are loving this. Hee.

  • seattle_girl

    Oh nooo. I’m a big Ellen fan, but think this is a HUGE mistake. She really was dreadful as a guest judge on SYTYCD. Almost painful to watch. Too much pre-written material and no relevant constructive criticism. Hmmm, haven’t we had too much of that from AI judges already?? (I did appreciate her sticking up for Evan after the judge’s bashing tho – that was about the only genuine moment from her.)

    I’m hoping that Ellen will keep the jokes and shtick out of this new gig. The last thing AI needs is more focus on the judges.

  • CDCIdol

    Ellen signed for 5 YEARS! Has FOX gone mad?

  • SybilTrelawney

    I love Ellen. A lot. But this is stunt casting. She’s a comedian, not a music critic, producer, musician or singer.

    She loves Idol. She’s always has the booted contestants on after they leave the show. She loves David Cook and Adam Lambert. (Points from me on both.) But I agree, she’s just going to make the show go even further over time.

    Now, if she were replacing Kara or Randy, I might feel differently….

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I actually like Kara more than Randy and Pauler put together, so…

    I will also gloat a bit here for all those peeps that thought Paula would be back. The writing was on the proverbial wall. You may gloat back if Ellen pulls out and Pauler is back. Doubt it.

    Has anyone else seen Simon on Ellen? She brings out the funny in him. They have great chemistry and I think it’s time for Pauler to face the music that its not okay to get paid millions of dollars for showing up for 8 hours a week at best. Sometimes not sober!

  • Suzanne

    How do you know that she has a 5-y contract?

  • rockvixen

    ugh I like Ellen but not as a judge. A comedian on the panel is not necessary bring spazzy Paula back AI.

  • iluvai

    What the heck???

    I love Ellen, but on Idol??

    I saw Simon on Ellen’s show, and they seemed to have great chemistry. I wonder what will happen when she steals the limelight from him. Because really, Simon is very, very funny a lot of the time, but he has a different kind of humor.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    I like it! I think it’s a smart move. If the show is going to spend most of its time centered on the judges, anyway, I’m happy one of them is articulate and funny. What does she know about music? Probably the same as 99.9% of the posters here. Why should that be an issue? She can be the voice of the consumer. Kara D. and Randy know tons about music. How useful are they? And how useful was Paula, really? Except for yucks.

  • CDCIdol

    E!…well Giuliana Rancic just said that Ellen signed a 5 YEAR deal.

  • seattle_girl

    I’d rather see MasterClass Lady join the judge’s panel.

  • abbysee

    Ellen signed for 5 YEARS! Has FOX gone mad?

    Okay this is a joke for sure, I’m convinced. Okay what was that rumor that someone had about Simon really wanting idol to tank so that he could bring one of his crappy shows to the US to replace idol. I am on board, *adjusts her tin foil hat*.

  • selena

    Amazing move by Fox. She represents the fans. Period.

    Can’t wait for the new season now.

  • sunny2

    Is it April 1st? I can’t wrap my head around this. I know she’s buds with Seacrest, and fawns over Simon, but I don’t get it.

    If they were going to get fan to be the 4th judge, why not MJ, Slezak or Jim Cantiello? The only reason I can think of for them to do this is that Ellen can use her daytime show to promote AI, the same way Seacrest does.

  • will

    CDCIdol
    September 9, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Ellen signed for 5 YEARS! Has FOX gone mad?

    Where are you getting that information from?

    ETA: Who’s Giuliana Rancic?

    ETA2: Oh, she’s on E! News. Is there a link to where she says that or was it only on the broadcast?

  • revcat

    Okay, I’m going to get some slings and arrows for this, but I don’t like Ellen. Yes, she’s a good person & yes she’s kinda cute, but she gets on my nerves, especially when she dances. Remember how cute Paula looked when she stood up and danced? Kara joined in as well.
    Dear Lord,
    Please spare us from Ellen’s dancing on AI.
    Amen
    Remember different strokes for different folks, so this is IMHO. Well, maybe not so humble :)

  • SybilTrelawney

    I forgot for a moment to think about how Paula would react. She must REALLY be steaming. Whether they think Ellen is a good idea or not, she’s so likable, no one is going to resent for taking Paula’s place, as they might have done with Posh or someone other bimbette.

    Another possible silver lining: Maybe Randy “Yo Yo Dawg It Was Just Aw’ight Faw Me” Jackson and Kara “No Boundaries to the Suckitude” will be effectively silenced by Ellen’s motormouth.

  • dhunken

    Well this will, whether you like the idea of Ellen or not, revitalize the Idol brand. People will watch to see what kind of judge she will be and then hopefully the talent found will keep people interested. I know I don’t agree with this choice (though I LOVE Ellen) but I will watch out of curiosity. After last year I was not too sure whether I was going to watch or not.

  • Sherena

    Why exactly would Ellen be worse than Randy or Kara?

    “PitchY” and “artistry” are nice the first ten times around, but insightful comments do they not make.

    The role of a judge, to me, is either to give me interesting or insightful perspectives on how a contestant would do in the music industry, to point out nuances of their performances that I hadn’t noticed enough to enjoy, or, failing those two… which they almost always do… to be entertaining.

    There’s no reason why Ellen can do at least as well as the judges we have right now. “Industry cred” hasn’t done Randy or Kara any good when it comes to being a good, useful JUDGE.

  • http://www.f3properties.com Animated

    I still think that AI should give more air time to singing than to judging.
    After all , as AI says , the final judges are the text voters. So give the text voters the chance to know more of the finalists by letting them sing full songs not shortened snippets.

    But since majority of the AI viewers may not even vote, and will tune in to be entertained. Then it is probably the right move to put in Ellen .
    In the event that they have chosen the lousiest batch of finalists – Ellen might be a saving grace.

  • revcat

    P.S. I’ll eat my hat (or jump off a cliff) if Ellen got a 5 year contract. This is such a slap in the face for Paula. :( They really don’t need a 4th judge so if they weren’t willing to bring Paula back for a decent price then why not save the money and not have a 4th judge – it caused them to go overtime more than once last year and is not necessary! At all! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! :(

  • JudyOhio

    I love the judges on SYTYCD. They know their business! Mary might shreak and scream, but there’s no doubt she knows what she’s talking about. They ALL have experience in dance and give excellent critiques. I would love to see that kind of judging on idol, but it’s looking more and more like I won’t. And I agree, Randy is useless, but would rather just have the ole Randy, Paula, Simon than all this mixed up stuff. The various judges through auditions was a pretty good idea because fans of those “stars” will tune in and may become new fans of AI and stay with the show this year. But as for the addition of Kara and now Ellen, I just don’t see how it can make the show any better. As they say, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I pretty much thing they should have just left it alone.

  • iluvai

    Maybe we’ll have more Normand Gentle contestants? That would be fun

    .

    I can see it now. lol Maybe the show will find the best singing comedian next year???

    Also, some people have said it’s great that she will be just a regular person giving her opinion. Well, that’s why I read this blog.

    I value the judgement of the professionals on the show because of their industry experience. I may not agree with the judges, but that makes it fun for me to kind of speculate on their comments based on their professional point of view.

  • lostinidol

    I actually think this might be a good move. Ellen is nothing if not enthusiastic. And she has a fan’s enthusiasm and not that of a greedy music executive counting the cash a contestant will make them before the show is even over. Unlike Randy and Kara, Ellen is not going to have the incentive to jump when the producers say so. She’s got a day job. And how many bobbing head music insiders do we need on the panel? At least Ellen is sure to bring something fresh to the table.

  • dante

    Wow – I thought mj was playing a joke on us

    I do kinda agree with pj though – keep Ellen and get rid of Randy who is completely worthless

    I am gonna have to do some thinking about this – really really weird

    Simon and Ellen do have chemistry for sure…….hmmm……

  • Sherena

    Btw any speculation on how much they’re going to pay Ellen? She’s a pretty darn huge name.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    If they were going to get fan to be the 4th judge, why not MJ, Slezak or Jim Cantiello? The only reason I can think of for them to do this is that Ellen can use her daytime show to promote AI, the same way Seacrest does.

    Well, they had to hire a “name” if they were gonna replace Paula. Kara was not a name. She may last one more season. Ellen has a lot of fans and they apparently have realized their true demographic.

  • sidewalkstory

    Who needs the fans to judge. We’d have a barrel full of easy listening and no diversity. And all high notes would be called screeching.

  • Sherena

    And she has a fan’s enthusiasm and not that of a greedy music executive counting the cash a contestant will make them before the show is even over. Unlike Randy and Kara, Ellen is not going to have the incentive to jump when the producers say so. She’s got a day job.

    Yeah basically.

    Since the industry peeps are not delivering judging wise, I think we do need something fresh. And Ellen being a fan of the show, a casual music consumer, who also happens to be an intelligent and articulate person– I think I’m getting behind this choice of judge.

  • Sherena

    Who needs the fans to judge. We’d have a barrel full of easy listening and no diversity. And all high notes would be called screeching.

    Welll… Ellen is a fan and she supported David Cook and Adam Lambert, yes? So diversity and screeching are covered.

  • KrazeeK120

    Well, I don’t have time to read all the comments, so my apologies if I’m repeating others, but I am SO excited about this! I always thought of Paula as “the nice judge who knows a lot about performance.” I think the same of Ellen, only Ellen is funny, smart, coherent, and not drinking out of a big red cup. Ellen doesn’t NEED Idol to sell anything. She stands out on her own. I think she really does want to try to help these kids, which is the difference between her and the other judges. I thought she did a great job on SYTYCD. Also, a lot of people may tune in just to see what she’ll say or do. Sounds like a brilliant move on the part of the producers, to me at least. I was seriously considering not watching next season…I felt like the show had gotten old and tired. But now I’ll for sure be watching! I hope Ellen can inject some life into the show!!

  • hypnoticwhisper

    I actually read Ellen’s tweet about it earlier today and thought it was a joke, apparently I was wrong. About her not being a singer. Simon is not a singer, neither is Sharon Osbourne (Americas Got Talent)

    She could bring something fresh to the table. She might be able to make the other judges listen to the contestants sing rather than talk amongst themselves and be disrespectful.

    Random note: I would love to see Slezak be a guest judge on the show

  • sidewalkstory

    “Welll’ ¦ Ellen is a fan and she supported David Cook and Adam Lambert, yes? So diversity and screeching are covered.”

    It wasn’t hard to like David and Adam. That does not make her qualified to be a judge.

    Thing is, I really love Ellen. But not as a musical judge. At all.

  • http://talkinaboutmovies.blogspot.com Brenoga

    I adore ellen and I’ll think she will be great along simon. And, I wouldn’t be surprised if she gave her salary to charity – yes, I think she’s that nice.

    I see where people go saying that she wouldn’t have much to add as a judge – I mean, technically. But let’s be real, peeps.

    I love Paula and I had a lot of fun watching her, but what did she add? Colors to the performances. I think Ellen can do that. She couldn’t sing – Ellen can’t either. She could dance – Ellen certainly can do this, too. Paula didn’t know how to make a full sentence – oh wait, ellen actually CAN do that AND be funny at the same time (even if it’s not always THAT funny). Paula was a sweetheart – so is Ellen, as we all know. So, bottom line, we have a brand new paula who can articulate and be funny. Can’t wait for season 9 to begin.

  • cookcricket

    If peeps are concerned about the contestants…remember a lot of the contestants we have heard from have stated their love for Paula for her encouragement to them… Not her technical knowledge, her encouragement.

    Ellen will fill this void nicely with focus on them, not the judge beside her from across the pond, unless he needs put in his place with a direct hit funny!!!

    I found nothing funny about all of the silliness that took place between Paula and Simon this year.

    Also as someone stated they brought in someone with a lot of knowledge in the industry last year and several people hated it. I believe though that Kara may have found some of her footing last season and she will be improved this year.

    Finally, I think Ellen may be as serious as a heart attack when it comes to the contestants.

  • sidewalkstory

    I wish I was a fly on the wall of the Idol bus tonight.

  • maracaibo

    Wow.. I never expected that.
    I mean I LOVE Ellen but I just can’t picture her in Paula’s chair.
    But I a bet the ratings will be HUGE with her on the panel.
    MAybe she will do a great job, I will wait and see. It’s going to be interesting to see her interacting with Simon, Randy and Kara.

    I agree that this might be the last season of Kara. Still in my mind no one can replace Paula.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Ellen has a lot of experience in the entertianment insustry, from sitcoms to talk shows. She also has a genuine love for the contestants. If you ever watch her show when they’re on, you’ll see that. She brings a fanbase and a chemistry with Simon (they are so funny when he’s a guest on her show). To me, it’s a win win. I would even argue it was Simon’s idea!

    I also will bet my house that she won’t show up drunk/drugged!

  • bruno

    not a good idea. the show already suffers from kara babbling on and on. now with ellen, another babbler, the ones to suffer will be the contestants. the focus has now shifted to the judges instead of where it should be – on the contestants.

    forget about 90 second songs. try 60 max in order to get in all the judges comments. i’ve watched ellen for a long time. she is going to run waaaaaay over on time.

    yup, ellen and kara – a deadly suck-up-the-time, less-music-for-fans combo

  • cheese

    I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad move, just an unnecessary one. I was more surprised that they bothered with the permanent replacement. If Simon really does want out soon, then they still have a judge people might tune in to see.

    I don’t think she was great on SYTYCD, but hopefully, she’ll find a good balance between comedy and criticism. As a guest judge with no dance background, I don’t think she was expected to really nail the dancers on anything. I think she’ll do fine judging karaoke. If Kara the expert can’t come up with anything better than “Here’s the thing. . blah blah blah” then maybe Ellen is just what we need.

    I wish they could have made Ellen the host and put Ryan at the judge’s table.

  • http://talkinaboutmovies.blogspot.com Brenoga

    melinda’s reaction to Ellen being a judge, on twitter:

    mdoolittleDUDE!! DUDE!! DUDE!! Ellen DeGeneres…the new AI judge! DUDE!! I love me some Paula, and…I adore me some Ellen too. DUDE!!! Thoughts???

  • poporange

    Dante-There is chemistry between those two interesting to see how it turns out..

    You bet that Ai is happy because they are creating buzz …just hope the judges overshadow the contestants too much ..I can see the potential of ellen is funny ,witty and something new to the show.The other hand did not see her on SYTYCD so it is wait and see…

  • leeaundra

    This just proves once again that AI is nothing more than a variety show to entertain the masses.

    Of course it is. It always has been. The only “reality” about Idol is that producers screen and re-screen contestants before the judges ever see them (yes, they cast the show to a large degree). Unless they factor in the judges’ votes in some way, the judges have very little to do with the outcome. That’s the producers and the viewers who vote (and it often has very little to do with actual talent).

    I’d like more focus on the contestants, but it seems the producers are determined to have four judges now. It’s not like Simon’s comments of “That was dreadful” or other snyde-ass remarks are really constructive musical criticism. Kara rambles aimlessly, Randy “Pitchy” Jackson is a waste of space and Paula rarely had anything of value to contribute. They are occasionally entertaining, but that’s worn thin too.

    It doesn’t matter who they put at that table. Their votes don’t count anyway (I would feel very differently if they did). Is Ellen as good as the average viewer at judging karaoke and popularity? She’s probably better than the average viewer since she is very dedicated to the show and the contestants (which she has proven every season since she’ been on the air with her own show).

    I say, why not? It’s worth a try.

  • http://absinthedreamers.blogspot.com/ Starrlight

    I am looking forward to this. Yes she is fan, but she is also an entertainer. I think she will offer up a different perspective than either Randy or Kara.

    And she won’t come with a bag full of shitty coronation songs ;)

  • yinyang

    Maybe we’ll have more Normand Gentle contestants? That would be fun

    Before I saw your post, I was actually thinking that maybe they should have saved some money, and hired Normand Gentle for the 4th judge. At this point, why not?

    I’d rather have the show be about the singers, but it’s even less likely this year, with Ellen added to the panel. I really like Ellen, but would rather see 3 judges — or even 2, (unless Randy adds some value this year), and let the top 10 actually spend more time singing. What a concept that would be on a singing competition. (Yes, I know it’s a scripted reality show, but just think if Adam, Kris, Allison, or Anoop could have had more time to sing last season….)

  • sidewalkstory

    Have the ratings for the Ellen show dipped? Has Ellen tired of it? Why a 5 yr contract?

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Why isn’t #firerandyjackson trending. Come on peeps! Ellen is. ;-)

  • BootStar

    I haven’t read comments yet, but I’m with you on this one, mj. I love Ellen, but what exactly is she going to add to the critiques? I can’t imagine her saying a bad word about any of them, and she’s really no more qualified to judge a singer’s potential than anybody at home, but I guess that’s kind of the point. She’ll be their Every(wo)man. Sigh.

  • bruno

    this move is a crass money grab – but hey, what isn’t? ellen’s show is the perfect vehicle to promote ai. she’s already doing it big time now as it is – so why not make it official. great business move on her part. as to whether it turns out to be a great career move – time will tell.

  • ppwars

    abbysee: I didn’t read any comments, I am perplexed. It does seem that the show has really jumped the shark. WTF does Ellen have to do with finding a recording star. SO! Maybe this is all about the AI CONTESTANTS deciding who is the best sitting star! After all, each is asked who their fav is! Judge centric with a porpoise! “AI JUDGES” – the winning judge guaranteed a 3 yr contract with 19E, $50,000,000/yr for a few honest – well – days work. Payment to AI contestants for services-ha!
    “But you will work your asses off!”

  • suebrody

    If luv supports the choice, then I do, too. ;)

    As on here, opinion is decidedly mixed on Twitter. The majority of tweeters seem to be, as Brian Mansfield wrote, “cautiously optimistic.” It IS about ratings and I for one am curious to watch the way this plays out. But I do not overestimate the judges’ influence, with the exception of the Wild Card. The fans will vote the way they want to at this point; the judges are really there for entertainment purposes, with the possible exception of Simin.

  • cookcricket

    I wish I was a fly on the wall of the Idol bus tonight.

    Oh yeah, and now the interviewers will have something new to ask the idols, past and present…lol.

  • bean99

    I also thought it was a joke at first and thought it was strange but now that I’ve had a chance to absorb it I like the idea. We already have enough of those with music industry experience. Why not someone who’s a fan and funny? I think she could be a breath of fresh air. I am surprised they wouldn’t have tried her first before committing though.

  • Susan M.

    I actually read Ellen’s tweet about it earlier today and thought it was a joke, apparently I was wrong. About her not being a singer. Simon is not a singer, neither is Sharon Osbourne (Americas Got Talent)

    Totally valid and excellent point.

  • HotHotHot

    Gee, why bother to have the contestants sing at all. They can just line them up and pick the most beautiful girl, guy with the best smile, cutest, most photogenic family, etc. Lets just give up the singing part and the judges can just talk and tell jokes!

  • stingray11214

    Ellen may be an entertainment figure, but this move spoke volumes about what Idol is and what it is NOT. The problem is that people are beginning to see Idol as a variety show and not a singing competition. Ellen’s hiring confirms that. With the viewing demographic being females over 40, it does not help the future of AI. Sure, it might be good for now, but I think Idol signed its death warrant with Ellen.

  • May

    I like the idea of Ellen being a judge. She’s very likeable, funny and has good taste in music. Her taste is very current (I’m basing this on the kind of music she likes to play in her show) so she might be good at representing the average music listener. They have 4 judges. Not all of them have to be professionals in the music industry. My only problem is that I don’t know if she’ll feel comfortable being brutally honest. We’ll see. I think Ellen is a better idea than anyone else that they mentioned as a potential candidate.

  • poporange

    #

    Why isn’t #firerandyjackson trending. Come on peeps! Ellen is. ;-)
    #

    Surprised why not There should be Allot of takers on that one :).

  • Susan M.

    (and it often has very little to do with actual talent).

    I agree with you to a point, but when it comes right down to it, all the major finishers had mad talent. Did that translate into astronomical success? No, not necessarily, but I don’t think anyone could make a relevant argument for Taylor or Ruben NOT having excellent talent. (Many of the rest were/are exceptional – well, not Justin, but that was a first-time out. I admit I don’t get beat boxing, but many love Blake.)

    And puh-leeze anyone who is making a case for Ellen doing it for the money (perhaps I misunderstood and AI is doing it for the money). Erm, Ellen does not need ANY AI money. Not at all.

  • ptslittlecomment

    About her not being a singer. Simon is not a singer, neither is Sharon Osbourne (Americas Got Talent)

    Yeah, but at least Simon had a top 50 dance hit

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVIAAD9rfL4&feature=related

    Here’s the LONG press release from Fox about Ellen

    http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/09/ellen-degeneres-joins-american-idol-as-new-judge/26666

  • abbysee

    (Americas Got Talent)

    Maybe that’s why that show both sucks and is a joke?

  • jpfan

    I def agree that Idol is moving toward the variety show thing.
    Maybe they’re afraid fans are tiring of the format and need some comedy thrown in. I think Ellen needs to worry about being overexposed. And you know she’ll never say one mean thing because that would ruin her image. I can just imagine night after night of her making that sweet sympathetic smile and deliverying wry one liners. It is possible she’ll never say one interesting or half way critical thing ever.

  • cookcricket

    Gee, why bother to have the contestants sing at all. They can just line them up and pick the most beautiful girl, guy with the best smile, cutest, most photogenic family, etc. Lets just give up the singing part and the judges can just talk and tell jokes!

    Like Ellen would ever let THAT happen! ;)

  • hypnoticwhisper

    LOL ok maybe I shouldn’t have used America’s Got Talent as an example. Idol is cheesy but AGT is smelly cheese to the max

    I think Simon and Ellen will have good chemistry.

    I wonder what Paula thinks?

    Well now we know Paula wont be on Ellen’s show anytime soon…

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Simon is not a singer, neither is Sharon Osbourne (Americas Got Talent)

    Their expertise isn’t performance–it’s in the music industry which both are deeply involved in. Simon as an A&R guy, and Sharon as a manager.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    And you know she’ll never say one mean thing because that would ruin her image. I can just imagine night after night of her making that sweet sympathetic smile and deliverying wry one liners. It is possible she’ll never say one interesting or half way critical thing ever.

    YEP. At least Paula spiced things up with her loopiness. Ellen has the potential to be a total snore. And a time-eating snore at that…

  • Tony

    My first reaction: YAY! I love Ellen (I didn’t even know who she was until like 5 years ago). Still, I’d much rather have the old 3 judge format back.

  • revcat

    Fire Randy? Randy has a contract and isn’t leaving the show. I liked the Randy/Paula/Simon chemistry. Kara is okay, but now another new judge? Why? I might not even watch next year. I don’t want to watch Ellen making jokes on purpose. Paula and Simon acted silly but it wasn’t planned, it was just impromptu craziness and yes sometimes it was OTT, but they made the show what it is today. Fox is trying to fix something that wasn’t broken. The contestants need more air time, 3 judges would allow for that. Paula isn’t coming back, that left Kara, Simon and Randy. That’s all they needed. Why not add a 4th or 5th judge? Maybe The Donald, Joan Rivers or a dog riding a unicycle is available? I’m not a happy camper!

  • CaliforniaGirl

    So, AI wouldn’t open their wallets for Paula, but they are for Ellen? AI’s got some ‘splain’n to do.

    What a dis on poor Paula.

  • Tess

    I think the vast majority of concern for the new judges line-up is that it represents change…and the one thing I have noticed with AI fans is that many of them are pretty resistant to any kind of change.

    After 8 seasons I can’t begin to describe the consternation of fans about the simplest of changes (36 to 24 back to 36) wild card, no wild card, even boys and girls, or not, Kara as a new judge, group songs in Hollywood week or not, the mosh pit, adding a live band earlier, allowing the contestants to play instruments. The list is endless and every single thing has started a web wide debate.

    And now, heaven forbid, someone who is funny and articulate and who has interviewed up close and personal a gazillion new and established singers, who has a very nice voice herself, and is a great proponent of the show is replacing a has been who is unstable, egotistical, and reads comments written by someone else and spends most of her time showing off her breasts or flirting with Simon. I think I know who I would rather have. But it’s a change so a lot of Idol fans will have heartache until it is proven it works and then they will say that they always embraced the new girl. Ohhh!

  • CindyM

    Ryan tweeted about it:

    RyanSeacrestWow all went down fast. yes ellen d will be coming to idol. she and paula are both very good friends of mine. E.D. On radio show 2morrow
    24 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    & Lindsey Parker (Yahoo music)

    lyndseyparkerIf Ellen DeGeneres had been on Idol last season, Josiah Leming would have made it through to the top 36. Just sayin’.
    about 1 hour ago from web
    lyndseyparkerCongrats to Ellen DeGeneres for her new Idol judging gig. She was great as a SYTYCD guest judge & she’ll put Simon in his place!
    about 1 hour ago from web

  • Grammie Kari

    They ALL have experience in dance and give excellent critiques. I would love to see that kind of judging on idol, but it’s looking more and more like I won’t.

    JudyOhio, you are right! I love the judges on SYTYCD and Dancing With the Stars. They know their business. I am so worried that there will be more focus on the judges than the contestants.

    I just don’t think this is a good move.

    Ellen is a sweet person, but I can’t figure out this move. At first I thought it was that Ellen would be a Guest Judge. She certainly couldn’t do worse than some that they have had.

  • smartcookie

    I thought Ellen was a terrible judge on SYTYCD. It was kind of like flop sweat, how she came out with unfunny schtik and just kept getting unfunnier.

    I think she’s doing AI because she loveslovesloves it, but it is really a come-down for someone like her to be a full-time judge on AI, and I think she will get tired of it quickly, when it becomes clear that America votes for who they like, she can’t really save the people she loves (like Daughtry) or make us love who she loves, and she really won’t be that important or be able to make any impact as a judge.

    Oh well. I love Ellen, and I love that she is a big fan of Idol, because it makes her seem so real and genuine and sweet and goofy. But as a judge? It kind of wrecks what makes her cool.

  • Valentin432

    RyanSeacrestWow all went down fast. yes ellen d will be coming to idol. she and paula are both very good friends of mine. E.D. On radio show 2morrow24 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    YEP. At least Paula spiced things up with her loopiness. Ellen has the potential to be a total snore. And a time-eating snore at that’ ¦

    I can’t believe you are defending Paula Mj, she was the definition of useless these past several years, she didn’t give constructive criticism and you could see she was basically using a script.

    It’s hard to tell how Ellen is going to fare before seeing her in action. Most people were very positive about Kara because of her pedigree and we all know how well that worked out.

    AI chose one of the most unanimously loved tv personalities along with NPH or Kristin Chenoweth, I think they are trying to give a new boost to the show and it would definetly create a new interest among people who don’t normally watch it.

  • HotHotHot

    There will be more talking and less singing again. Three judges were better. Ellen rambles too much and wasn’t that funny on SYTYCD. I wanted to smack her and tell her to shut up.

  • carolinacharms

    10 Words: No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.
    And to Valentin: I have no idea who “NPH” and “Kristin Chenowith” are, so I cannot comment on their “unanimously loved” status. Don’t suspect they have a huge name ID, frankly. However, I do know who Jay Leno and Oprah Winfrey are. And so does everyone else. And even THEY aren’t “unanimously” loved. Oh!! And I’ll do you one better. IMO, Ms. Degeneres is only a few steps up the comedy-tv personality-talk show host ladder than that fat, kooky, constantly blogging lady. Whatsername? She used to be an actress. And a talk show host. And she was on The View! Anywhooo. No. Just no!

  • revcat

    Thank goodness for the DVR, greatest invention since sliced bread, I forgot about this marvelous new tool…

    No Ellen for me, just fast forward! Yippee Skippee! Maybe I’ll survive another season after all. Maybe.

  • yinyang

    I think the vast majority of concern for the new judges line-up is that it represents change

    As someone who was new to the show last year, I’m not invested in what they used to do on the show. They could drop the judges completely, for all I care. But, I do mind the idea that this might take the focus even more away from the singers, and give them even less time. A “singing contest”/reality show should give the singers time to do their thing. I don’t see that happening with 4 judges again, (didn’t work last year), and don’t see it happening with Ellen. I’m a fan of Ellen’s, but want to hear the singers sing!!

  • Grammie Kari

    Unless they factor in the judges’ votes in some way, the judges have very little to do with the outcome.

    Please help me understand this. Isn’t it the judges who select the TOP 36 or 32? I certainly hope they won’t have the Wild Card thing this year. That is a lot of power.

  • AlwaysElliott

    I like Ellen, but I think this is a bad move. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I think that Paula will be sorely missed this season, and the show may be jumping the shark….boo.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    It’s hard to tell how Ellen is going to fare before seeing her in action.

    I saw her in action on So You Think You Can Dance. It wasn’t good, imo. Ellen’s got some work to do before she hits Hollywood in November.

  • Sherena

    If not Ellen, then it would be someone else. They seem very invested in the four judge format.

  • lostinidol

    It is interesting to read the comments on this. I feel a split personality coming on. Folks say this confirms that Idol is a variety show and not a singing competition. Yes, and there really is no Santa Claus either. Then I recall all those folks who whine about how the judges are such tools of the producers, of the music industry, of mass produced pop. Well, now we have a judge who is none of that and the complaint seems to be that she’s not. I’m sure in some alternate universe where music as art is valued, the Idol producers asked Tom Waits or Leonard Cohen to judge. But in this universe, this is probably the best we are going to do, someone who might champion the underdog you complain doesn’t get the proper attention from Idol or is continually dissed by those money-first music insider types. Ellen could be your white knight. At least give her a chance to prove that she isn’t.

  • bjames

    WHAT?! this sucks so hard.

    you would think at least one of the requirements to be a judge on music’s biggest talent search would be to know something about the music business.

    what a joke. please be a joke.

  • Valentin432

    I have no idea who ‘NPH’  and ‘Kristin Chenowith’  are, so I cannot comment on their ‘unanimously loved’  status

    I understand not knowing Chenowith but you don’t know Neil Patrick Haris? Kind of one of the biggest tv personalities out there.
    If you follow the blog, both of them are going to be judge during one audition this year.
    I know that no one is “unanimously loved”, I just meant to say that they are among the people who have the most positive public image out there. You can see than most people here even if they don’t want her as an AI judge, like her.

  • Valentin432

    I saw her in action on So You Think You Can Dance. It wasn’t good, imo. Ellen’s got some work to do before she hits Hollywood in November.

    ITA, she was not good on SYTYCD.
    But she is much more susceptible to work on improving than some of the other judges, Randy and Simon seem less and less passionate about the show, from what I can see Ellen is a fan who cares about the show and its contestants.
    I also believe that she is smart and self conscious enough to see what she does wrong and correct it.

  • janerazor

    Whew! I just caught a whiff of Eau de Cousin Oliver, and how!

    Don’t get me wrong; I loved Ellen way back during her stint on the short-lived “Open House.” But I’m not really understanding what place she’ll have on American Idol. Say what you will about Paula, but she has a legit musical background. I’m guessing we’ll just get a lot of canned, unfunny one-liners from Vance DeGeneres’s not-as-funny-as-he-is sister.

  • hypertwink

    I love Ellen but this is all sorts of weird and stupid. And while Neil and Kristin are liked, I find it ironic that they would even be considered since one of the most lobbed criticisms on Idol is that the performance was too Broadway.

  • mrskiddens

    I’ve been reading here for years and finally registered, just for this story!

    I’ve considered and understand the doubt and criticism, but what it comes down to is Paula was (for me, for you, and I’ll include Randy and Kara in this part too) barely contributing anything worthwhile. Sweet, yes, but she was also an incoherent train wreck who usually/always came to work drunk/stoned/whatever. And she was a TOTAL tool for promoting the producers picks and throwing fodder under the bus. I can’t see Ellen doing that. She’ll even know how many songs have been performed!

    Based on Ellen’s discussions about Idol on her show, including her interviews with contestants and judges, it’s clear that she’ll have plenty of intelligent, insightful and original commentary. Just because she doesn’t work in the music business doesn’t mean that she (or I, or many others for that matter) can’t speak as intelligently about the contestants performances than Paula, Randy or Kara. Those three are a total joke as “judges.”

    I don’t like the 4-judge format. But if there’s gotta be four, Ellen will contribute more than anyone but Simon, IMO.

    I’m stoked!!!

  • smartcookie

    I can’t stand Kristin Chenoweth. Just thought I would throw that out there. Her public image is actually pretty crappy in a some circles because she’s supposed to be this big Christian and a lot of people think she is hypocritical and insufferable about it, what with “dating” (off and on and off and on again) Aaron Sorkin, serial bad boy known for his crack cocaine addiction, sniffing hooker’s panties and getting busted for having magic mushrooms in his luggage almost as much as “The West Wing,” as well as sleazy Jeff Probst. (The much-maligned character Sarah Paulson played on Aaron Sorkin’s Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip was supposedly based on Cheno. And, oh my goodness, did people hate that character.)

    I don’t think “beloved” status means diddly when it comes to who should be a judge on American Idol. Simon comes out first as people’s favorite judge in all the polls, but that’s because he’s a snot and a jerk and says mean things and people think it’s funny, not because they think he’s sweet and/or cuddly.

    To me, Ellen seemed uncomfortable, awkward, trying too hard to be funny and not succeeding (at all) and in general, a big flopola, on SYTYCD. She was really hard to watch and didn’t add anything as far as I’m concerned. If that was a try-out for Idol, she flunked.

  • http://www.wholisticbirthways.net austinmidwife

    revcat
    September 10, 2009 at 12:56 am
    Thank goodness for the DVR, greatest invention since sliced bread, I forgot about this marvelous new tool’ ¦

    Yes. The DVR is my newfound friend. Just love it. Sometimes the judges are great, but other nights, Simon is the only one worth even listening to.

    “No Ellen for me, just fast forward! Yippee Skippee! Maybe I’ll survive another season after all. Maybe.”

    I’ll give Ellen a try. She might be fine. She will, at least, be coherent, a quality that has certainly been lacking in Ms. Abdul for many years now. Not every night, mind you, but enough so that, yeah, it’s been quite noticeable. I really am not going to miss Paula. And all that really matters is the singers anyway.

  • http://susanreep.com grambert

    I loved Ellen on SYTYCD! I thought she had a great self-deprecating sense of humor and even though I found it odd at first since she couldn’t add anything substantive, I ended up enjoying the humor and laughing out loud! Almost. Ok so I am strange maybe, but I think as long as she’s willing to be honest on Idol, it’ll be cool to have the opinion of the “average” record-buyer (thought she’s hardly average.)

  • gangreen29

    I am cautiously optimistic about Ellen. At first I was confused and shocked, but the more I think about it the more I warm to the idea. I’m guessing her role on the panel will be the music outsider who is just a huge fan of good singing, who will be more representative of how the American public might see a performer. Since American Idol is voted on by the public and not a panel of music insiders I have no problem with a judge who can speak from outside the music business. Also, she was pretty bad on sytycd but I think judging music and dance are two separate things. It is pretty easy to judge a bad singing performance because it is unpleasant to listen to. Without more technical knowledge it was hard for Ellen to judge a dancing performance. It isn’t like simon or randy use technical music terms in their judging anyway.

  • Chipmunk

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttttttttt?????????????

    :shock:

  • sidewalkstory

    After seeing Kristen Chenowith in Wicked on Bway, I adored her. And her TV role in Pushing Daisies made me adore her more.

  • alison8701

    FIVE YEARS?

    I love her, but FIVE YEARS?

    damnnn. crazy. I don’t know how I feel about that. It’s too weird.

  • Sherena

    I WANT TO KNOW HER SALARYYYYY

    Seriously the curiosity is killing me. Did they really shell it out to get this five year contract or does she just love Idol that much?

    Five years? Huh. That’s a big commitment on Ellen’s part, especially for something that could potentially hurt her image. And obviously it’s a big commitment on AI’s part as well.

  • Niall

    Now that I’ve gotten over my disbelief I can post an opinion.

    If Ellen is able to approach her role seriously, rather than play court jester, and gives her critique as a fan of music and musicians it might not be a train wreck. It would be nice to have somebody on the panel who doesn’t run the bus over the Allison’s of the AI world. I’m going to hope she becomes the voice for the underdog who says what the audience is thinking (or screaming at the tv).

  • http://www.last.fm/user/RemusL/ RemusL

    Why are you flummoxed, mj? Many of us probably believe we can do as good a job, if not better, than Paula, Randy, Simon and Kara. As Ellen puts it, she’s like a lot of fans who avidly follow AI and now “one of us” gets to sit on the panel.

    Ellen will bring the warm fuzzies like Paula did but I presume more coherently and succinctly. She’ll be the new mother hen to all the Idol wannabes; the other three can represent the industry.

    I saw her in action on So You Think You Can Dance. It wasn’t good, imo. Ellen’s got some work to do before she hits Hollywood in November.

    Dancing is very different from singing (obviously). Don’t think you can extrapolate her ability to judge singing from her lack of technical dance knowledge.

  • blissful

    Late to the party…

    Wow, I did not see that coming. I am sad that there will be less time for actual singing, but she will definitely bring the ratings (especially her reaction to Simon’s jabs).

    But I’m still trying to figure out what perspective she’ll bring to the judging.

  • tiger92

    This will really piss those people off who couldn’t vote for a gay guy for their American Idol. Hmmm…I wasn’t liking this move, but now I’m thinking this might be interesting. Plus, it will keep the “gay jokes” between Ryan and Simon at bay.

  • richie10

    This will really piss those people off who couldn’t vote for a gay guy for their American Idol. Hmmm’ ¦I wasn’t liking this move, but now I’m thinking this might be interesting. Plus, it will keep the ‘gay jokes’  between Ryan and Simon at bay.

    Hah! Maybe they hired her so middle america will learn to trust that a gay person can indeed be an american idol. Season 8 might have taught them a valuable lesson.

  • HotHotHot

    I love her, but FIVE YEARS?

    Naw, the show will probably be kaput in a year. No biggie!

  • alison8701

    Plus, it will keep the ‘gay jokes’  between Ryan and Simon at bay.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah!

    Let’s see if they can refrain from that! Doubtful.

  • ianaleah

    Yuk. I like her the first Ellen season, then she became a bore. And- 3-6 days a week, she talks about drinking or pantomines drinking-like a lush. She is not qualified to jucge a singer at all-even Simon isn;t-remember it was Paula that liked Daughtry, Cook and Adam Lambert in auditions and Simon did not. And Paula liked Jennifer Hudson and Simon did not- Paula knew what she was talking about despite all the criticism. Remember how she praised Adam’s Ring of Fire while Simonw said everyone was throwing their tv out the window-that sounds like the kind of stupid music knowledge Ellen has too.Ellen gives her guests all ‘Ellen” material as though they should be honored. American Idol was saved last year by Lambert, (thank you Paula) with Paula gone and the complete dissatisfaction with the voting system, American Idol hit its peak and it is all downhill from the seaon 8 finale forward. B b b bye AI.

  • lostinidol

    American Idol was saved last year by Lambert, (thank you Paula) with Paula gone and the complete dissatisfaction with the voting system, American Idol hit its peak and it is all downhill from the seaon 8 finale forward.

    Actually, AI hit its peak several seasons ago. The ratings have been in a down hill slide for the past couple of seasons, with Paula. And as far as Paula’s great gift to pick winners, Paula likes everyone. Amazingly each season, one of the 12 (or 13) finalists she likes goes on to win. It’s not a miracle or great judging ability, it is inevitability.

  • LindaT

    I love Ellen, but I think she was a complete waste of time as a judge on SYTYCD. Her comments about the dancing were useless and her attempts at comedy were surprisingly not funny. She seemed like a deer in the headlights. Given that she has no experience or expertise in the field of music, I’m not sure what she is going to bring to the party on AI.

    Somehow this feels like AI has well and truly lost its last little bit of credibility. Since the show is supposed to be a singing competition, shouldn’t the producers have tried to put together a panel of judges who have some relation to the music industry? I don’t think we need someone on the panel whose perspective is “from a person at home who is looking to buy the contestant’s record”. That’s the perspective the voters bring to the party. The judging panel is supposed to provide a different perspective — a professional assessment of the contestants’ performances and potential success in the music industry.

    Bottom line for me is that having Ellen on the panel won’t add any value and basically just seems like a waste of valuable air time. I would rather have one less judge and more singing!

  • jtoms

    oh wow. 5 years? goodness.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com honowoowoo

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes (repeat a gazillion times more!)

    Love Ellen … go get ‘em girl!!

  • mrskiddens

    I was just thinking back on Paula drunkenly declaring a Gokey/Lambert finale back around the final 9 or 10 or whatever. That stuff was making me cringe and I won’t miss it a bit.

    Whoever said about Ellen hopefully saying what everyone’s screaming at their TVs, that’s what this show needs. Like, after the infamous Gokey “Scream On” a judge should have simply said, “You’ve GOT to be kidding me!” and I can hear Ellen saying something like that. I hope.

  • Truthiness

    ‘You’ve GOT to be kidding me!’  and I can hear Ellen saying something like that. I hope.

    But in a way that’s nice…and totes funny. Because she’ll be bringing the funny.

    Er, yeah. I don’t hold out much hope for Ellen being some shining voice of reason.

  • Chipmunk

    She can funny on her show, which I hardly watch, although I love her, but I then have a choice! Not all season on my favourite cheesefest!

    She will get annoying really quick, if I have to watch her all season…..this just sucks , to me anyways!

  • mrskiddens

    The judging panel was a seriously bad joke. At least Ellen will be funny on purpose. As long as she uses it sparingly.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I love Ellen. And I’m really happy to hear that she is now a judge on AI.

    I admit I haven’t seen her stint on SYTYCD. But I think that it’s easier to judge singing than dancing.

  • fearbear

    I have sort of mixed feelings about this, the ideal situation for me will be going back the the Simon/Paula/Randy format because that one just worked. But since they’re bent on making some changes, this one is as good as any. Ellen is funny, she’s not boring, she’s likable and she’s going to bring a lot of buzz into the show coming in.

  • http://www.fatladysings.us TFLS

    I think this is the ultimate Paula shut out. Paula’s been doing a lot of posturing lately – angling to get her old job back I think. In fact ‘“ I’d say she rather expected to….replete with a nice fat raise to sweeten the pot. This says no freakin’ way. Five years? Wow. Paula really blew this – she did. No one is gonna offer her anything close to Idol. Want to bet that new manager gets his walking papers tout de suite?

  • briguyx

    One thing about Ellen: at least she keeps up with current music. In the past, the judges have often put down contestants who choose new songs because they’ve never heard them. Hopefully Ellen will step up and point out when something was a big hit.

    Also, her talk show has given her a knowledge and appreciation of artists from different genres. I’ve often thought Randy unfairly favored R&B artists and songs, while it’s clear Simon hates country music. Maybe Ellen won’t be so narrow minded…

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    5 years?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is this some giant prank? Is it April?

    This is nothing but pandering for ratings. Poor Paula, she was lambasted for being greedy, how much is the show paying Ellen?

    This sucks! on so many levels.

  • Valentin432

    Well at least this is making a huge buzz for AI (which I guess was factored in the decision), all the newspapers are talking about it this morning. This simple bit of news has made more impact than the 50 AI concerts.

    how much is the show paying Ellen?

    There’s really no way of knowing that, and it’s even more pointless to compare with what Paula was asking because we don’t have any idea too.

    I definetly see a scenario where she could be paid less than Paula was asking.

  • selena

    I think this was the most brilliant choice ever made in reality show history.
    Ellen will be amazing, adding a judge who represents the fans. Finally.

    After watching Adam Lambert this season, I had zero interest in watching
    anymore as he was the sole reason I tuned in every week. Now, I will again to see her.

  • JudyOhio

    Poor Paula. I’m thinking they baited her with a small offer knowing she’d turn it down and try to negotiate for more. They probably planned to withdraw the original offer from the beginning, leaving her out to dry. I think I’m seeing a master plan at work here……..Kara was no hit last year, so they will drop her next year (she’s just being used to divert attention), Randy (aka useless) will be replaced as soon it looks clear to do so, and the final, permanent judges will end up being Simon, Ellen, and __?___. This should be able to be accomplished in 1 to 2 years. Tada! (lol).

  • bambambam

    One thing about Ellen: at least she keeps up with current music. In the past, the judges have often put down contestants who choose new songs because they’ve never heard them. Hopefully Ellen will step up and point out when something was a big hit.

    ITA, Briguy.

    None of the TV and music journalists who comment on the comments of the show every week have any music industry experience themselves. Ellen loves current music and loves AI. As long as the PRODUCERS tell the whole damn panel, be to the point and address the singers and not yourselves — and Paula was the man reason key performancesa were “wiped” from consciousness when she acted out with Simon afterwards — this could be a great re-boot of something that’s gotten way off track.

  • JudyOhio

    After watching Adam Lambert this season, I had zero interest in watching

    I had zero interest in watching the year following Taylor, Elliott, Daughtry. I had zero interest in watching the year following “the Davids” and Jason. I have zero interest in watching next season after Adam (at this time)……..However, I know I’ll end up tuning in. I always do.

    Bottom line I guess is “I love this cheesy show” (tm mj). What can I say, lol.

  • http://stores.ebay.com/BookWomanBlues-Book-Nook Bobbi

    I don’t need Ellen to be the voice of the public. I know my opinion and have access to other’s opinions here and elsewhere online, if I choose to. She has no more background in judging these people than I do, so what does she bring to the table? She can make a quip? Another waste of time. This season of AI is sounding more and more unappealing to me. Hope they have some real talent.

    I liked the original concept of AI – to find the best singer they could. That quest was what drew me to the show. It is turning, more and more, into a parody of itself with each new season. Really is sad, imo.

  • jga94

    Just when I thought AI was going downhill, they come up with this idea!I absolutely LOVE ELLEN!She is one of the COOLEST PERSONS on EARTH!This will offset hopefully the contrived, cheesy features of this show–including the not-so-cool judges(Yes, even pompous Simon).

    I still think that first and foremost, this is a TV show.While it is still a search for talented people who have potential to make it big in the music biz…they have to balance this with the entertainment side of being a primetime, ratings-juggernaut TV show….

    And Ellen is just the coolest person on TV.PERIOD.

  • spring2009

    And as far as Paula’s great gift to pick winners, Paula likes everyone. Amazingly each season, one of the 12 (or 13) finalists she likes goes on to win. It’s not a miracle or great judging ability, it is inevitability.

    Sorry, but sure Paula does love everyone, which is nice. However it was soooooo obvious who her fav was this year that sometimes I was embarassed she was so OTT. I WANT to know who the judges like – not because I can’t form my own opinion, but so that I can argue with the tv (which I love doing)

    If Ellen’s stint on SYTYCD is any indication – you couldn’t really tell who she liked, I hope that she changes that for Idol and as someone said it might be easier with singing.

    I really like Ellen and I know she LOVES the show, but not sure that that is what it takes.

  • jersey

    I like Ellen as much as the next guy, but this is just…..no. I was really hoping that by not renewing Paula the producers had seen the horrible effect of a four judge panel on the overall flow of the show and would keep this year to three judges once the voting rounds started. I can’t imagine that the addition of Ellen will do anything to keep the show about the contestants.

  • koshka

    I think Ellen is a perfect addition. Paula never added much as far as critique, so the argument that she provided good feedback doesn’t add up. Ellen can certainly give Simon a run for his money & is professional, which will make it entertaining without making me want to throw the TV out the window.

  • dab1234

    I don’t know about this. I really like Ellen, but this is a music contest and she doesn’t have the background. I am also afraid her presence will change how the others judge. Don’t want to see Simon mellow, he is the brutally honest one and the contestants need that. Need to see how Simon and Ellen work together, that’s my worry.

  • Allison

    jersey
    September 10, 2009 at 7:31 am
    I like Ellen as much as the next guy, but this is just’ ¦..no. I was really hoping that by not renewing Paula the producers had seen the horrible effect of a four judge panel on the overall flow of the show and would keep this year to three judges once the voting rounds started. I can’t imagine that the addition of Ellen will do anything to keep the show about the contestants.

    Word. And she wasn’t good on SYTYCD.

  • http://onlinepastrychef.wordpress.com/ onlinepastrychef

    I’m afraid that the running-long issues of S8 will pale in comparison to S9. I love Ellen, but I wonder if she won’t try and do a mini-monologue after each contestant. I think it will disrupt the flow of the show even more than last year’s 4 judge format did.

    I guess we don’t have any choice in the matter, so we all just have to go with it. I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but more likely I’ll have to program my DVR to run 10 minutes over…

  • Studio57

    I don’t think the point is even whether Ellen would be a good judge or not. How many times did they go overtime last year or scramble to get things done on time, ALL BECAUSE OF A FOURTH JUDGE? It’s just not needed. People have been complaining for years that they focus too much on the judge’s banter, and this is how they repay us?

    Not to mention they could have afforded Paula’s salary demands by getting rid of Kara. All that money, hmmmm- maybe get more rights to more songs? Hire a hipper band? Have guest bands to backup the contestants? Buy a clue? Buy Randy a Thesaurus? Buy Simon some colored shirts? Buy Kara a book on 70′s pop culture? Buy Ryan better lifts? All that friggin money and they spend it on a 4th judge. Still shaking my head.

  • jill16

    What is most surprising to me is that they gave Ellen a 5 year contract. I can’t remember Simon, Randy, or Paula signing one for that long. Kara only had a 1 year contract to start with. Why they would sign her for 5 years seems really odd.

  • maturin

    DAMN.

    I love Ellen, she’ll be perfectly charming at this.

    But remember when I said this whole deal with Paula looked EXACTLY like the sort of thing that goes on in pro sports? (No you don’t, do you?) How management will lure an older player with an expensive contract into EXACTLY what Paula did–turn down an offer in hopes of a better one, only to have management walk away? By playing on the person’s ego, their hurt feelings over teammates getting bigger deals? Convince them that it’s all about the “respect”, not the money.

    It’s the money. And they went and used it as part of a deal to get the player they really wanted.

    They really did do it. BURN! DAMN 19E, that was COLD!!! Still, Ellen is a good choice.

  • sammi

    I just wish she was replacing Kara, 4 judges are too many. I like the fact that she is not “musical”. I think the judges actually miss the whole point of this show sometimes. It is not basically a singing competition. Let’s face it there are people out there making millions of $s who would have never made it to HW on this show. I think she will bring something new to the judges table and I think the exchanges between her and Simon could be really funny. Although those between her and Paula could have been even funnier. LOL I think adding her as a judge is a wise move, but it would have been better if she was becoming the THIRD judge!

  • Dr. Tracey

    Idol has lost it. They f’d things up last season bringing back the wild card round and adding a 4th judge. The OTT pimping was ridiculous and like someone said up thread they probably already have the 9th season winner picked out however it’s still supposed to be a ‘singing competition’ isn’t it? They could at least try and humor me by adding a judge who works in the singing business but no they add a judge who tells jokes, there’s enough comedy at the judges table now with Randy and Kara.
    Did they not watch Ellen on SYTYCD, she was interesting for about 5 minutes.
    I’m not going to tune in 2 to 4 hours a week to watch Ellen Does Idol, I can just watch the performance video’s here if I want, thank God for the internet.

  • jpfan

    Five year Contract? I figured it out. Simon is leaving after next year. They need an A lister to keep the buzz going for the show after he’s gone. She’s even a bigger star than him and will fit the bill. I’m positive, that’s why she got the gig.

  • jga94

    Although I agree with everyone saying that AI should really be about the contestants and having four judges just takes away exposure for these idols; more so since Ellen is an A-lister(but she doesn’t have the ego of Simon)…so I think they should do away with Kara.

    Maybe she can be a vocal coach or something…just have her comments taped…like she can have a session with the idols and give them tips on (like she did for some contestants in a show which escapes me…I saw her “tutor” Megan)…or something like this.Or better yet, just do away with her…I mean she’ll still be a songwriter and an executive in a record company.

    ^And I agree with maturin….that was harsh …even cruel on AI’s part…but what can you expect from the producers of AI(a show which thrives on the misery of others…well, not always but a good deal of the show is about that)….it’s like The Jerry Springer Show, only it’s pretentious and less obvious.

  • JudyOhio

    ^I think Simon signed a 3-year contract.

  • Squirrely

    American Idol has ‘jumped the shark’. I love Ellen but this is not a good fit.

  • Kirsten

    ^I think Simon signed a 3-year contract.

    Yes, from what I read, he’s locked in until 2012. It was part of the deal to allow him to bring X-Factor to America.

    It may be that they want Ellen to carry on for him once he’s gone since she does have a five year deal.

    IDK. I don’t like four judges and I don’t like having the focus be on the judges, but since they seem determined to have a fourth celebrity judge, they could do a lot worse than Ellen.

  • oceana

    Wow, I’m shocked. I thought it was an April Fools joke. LOL.

    I like Ellen but I dunno. She’s always been outspoken about her favorites. She totally favors r&b artists, she loves hiphop etc. She was also a huge Daughtry fan though so I guess she likes rock too.

    She doesn’t seem to appreciate subtle or quiet music, like folk or singer/songerwriter. She’s all about dance and in-your-face music, has always been my impression.

    And I don’t know what her qualifications are to judge music. Just liking music is not a qualification.

    She’s shown a lot of musical favoritism on her show, maybe she’ll try to be more fair on Idol.

  • bean99

    I am surprised about the 5 yr contract. If she sucks it’s going to cost them big to buy her out. I’m not sorry at all about Paula not coming back. Last season she resorted to prepared comments about Adam that just seemed weird. I won’t miss her blathering at all. Ellen can only be an improvement. I do think there has to be something done about the timing if they’re insisting on 4 judges. There’s a lot of fluff that they could cut.

  • TwigLA

    I’m having trouble with the new format and not being able to see all the posts or them in chronological order. So with that, I can’t read them all and don’t know what has been said.

    My first reactions was, ‘WOW, I didn’t see that coming.’ My second was, ‘Wow, Ellen out-Divas Paula!!!! Do they know this?’

    I’m not surprised she negotiated a 5 year deal to do this and I’m not surprised that she wants to. She IS a huge fan of the show and her audience demographic is very similar to AI’s so she may bring in or reinforce ratings. She’ll certainly use her signature show as a platform to promote AI … and I suspect her picks. Hmmm

    BTW, my second ‘WOW’ is based on friends who work on her show. She is a totally different person off camera.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    I went to bed kind of wide eyed and blank. Stunned. Those little cartoon asterisks and canaries flying over my head.

    I woke up just fine with the idea. I think I’ll consider her competent until proven Randy otherwise. ;)

    They knew what they were doing to lure people back at least one more time. Look at the buzz they’ve created.

  • jpfan

    She’ll have to be careful talking about Idol on her show. If she starts pimping the ones she likes on her daily show, that would be very, very BAD because she could influence the voting. She’ll actually have to not talk about the contestants too much or in a genral way.

    It would be funny if Ellen was really a bigger diva that Paula.

  • terps

    She’ll have to be careful talking about Idol on her show. If she starts pimping the ones she likes on her daily show, that would be very, very BAD because she could influence the voting. She’ll actually have to not talk about the contestants too much or in a genral way

    All the judges pimp who they like whenever they get the chance, so I really wouldn’t be any different

  • terps

    She’ll have to be careful talking about Idol on her show. If she starts pimping the ones she likes on her daily show, that would be very, very BAD because she could influence the voting. She’ll actually have to not talk about the contestants too much or in a genral way

    All the judges pimp who they like whenever they get the chance, so I really wouldn’t be any different

  • jpfan

    Yes but Ellen has a daily talk show and a devoted following. She could easily mount a campaign for someone she likes. Ryan has other shows as well but he’s not a judge and he’s very careful about what he says.
    I’m sure Ellen will be careful as well.

  • Tess

    I am utterly amazed that so much is being said about how great the musical integrity of the judges has been and how they have insured that the BEST of the BEST have made it to the top of American Idol. Bull Crap!!

    Sure, the judges (with a gigonormous amount of input from TPTB) wittle the contestants down to the top 36 (24) but after that it is totally in the hands of the american public. And if anyone thinks Ellen will be bad as a representative of the general public they haven’t been paying close attention to the final placement of the singers.

    AI is not a singing competition. It is a made for profit reality show that uses and abuses young adults to get ratings and make more profit. It’s premise isn’t altruistic and it rarely discovers the “best” talent to award with a career. And the voters of America are the farthest thing from experts when it comes to knowing and understanding talent. Everyone “votes” for a myriad of reasons and I don’t think “judges comments” are really very high on the list.

    The four judges on AI isn’t the problem, and who they are isn’t the problem because there isn’t a “problem”. The show is what it is, a cheesy reality show that gets viewers involved. Ellen isn’t going to make or break the show, she is just part of the window dressing and after top 36 she, like the other judges, play a very small part in the outcome.

  • suebrody

    Maybe they can get rid of Randy now… ;)

    I already posted about this last night. All I can say is that:

    1) Last season was a disaster, contestants (for the most part) excluded:

    2) I liked Pauler, but she and Simon engaged in childish behavior;

    3) The show ain’t gonna last five more years; and

    4) Ellen wasn’t good on SYTYCD b/c Ellen doesn’t know a bloody thing about dancing. It’s apples and oranges/bananas.

    I’m willing to give it a chance. They should have gotten rid of Kara, but they didn’t. Maybe they will axe Randy and/or Kara after this season. If the ratings continue to be good (not as good as in the past but better than other shows), it will continue to air. If ratings take, it will leave the airways. And frankly, without Adam (and yes, I also liked Kris, Allison, and Matt), I would have stopped watching.

  • Kirsten

    Slezak weighs in:

    Ellen DeGeneres as the fourth judge: Is this the end of ‘American Idol’ as we know it?
    by Michael Slezak
    Categories: American Idol 2009, Hell to the No!

    Chalk me up as one of those people who greeted the news that Ellen DeGeneres is joining the judging panel for season 9 of American Idol with the sudden urge to drive a fork into my thigh and wake up from a strange and horrible nightmare. (Side note: We all do dream about Idol on a regular basis, right? Right.)

    EW

  • auntieaimee

    Great piece by Michael Slezak this morning on this. I like Ellen, but this is a bonehead idea. TPTB just don’t get it. At all.

  • ross

    Paula was the man reason key performances were ‘wiped’  from consciousness when she acted out with Simon afterwards ‘” this could be a great re-boot of something that’s gotten way off track.

    If you re-watch those episodes you’ll see it was Simon. As a Kris fan, I noticed he did this more than once when Kris was standing onstage. She’d be saying something very positive and he’d distract her (not hard to do). They’d mix it up, Ryan would get into it, and everyone would focus on them, not the performance. It happened to Allison, too. I’m sure many viewers found it transparent.

    I doubt we’ve seen the end of that, though. Simon will just think up some new variation on it.

    I thought Ellen was a bad choice, but I’m re-thinking it. She seems smart, not someone to be messed with. I’m not against the idea of a judge who can stand up to Simon. And I agree with whoever said she does know modern music. (Even if she’ll be the oldest judge on the panel.)

    As for four judges: It’s the norm on Idol shows of other countries like Canada and Australia. It works well, since they don’t make it all about themselves. They focus on the contestant and they’re mostly serious, and seem to have a time limit. They say a lot with few words, and move on.

  • jpfan

    Great piece by Slezak. I forgot about Ellen’s “Are you a carpenter? Coz you nailed it.” comment. I’m sure we’ll be hearing that one again.

  • Grammie Kari

    In actuality, Ellen is too big of a star for this show. So much focus will be on her. So, will the contestants have adequate time for us to get to know them?

    I have a feeling it is KARA that will be the most professional judge on the show. Last year was her first; I am willing to give KARA a chance.

  • MissyMusic

    Well said Tess!

  • babybelle32

    This is horrible news. It’s just another way to take the focus off of the contestants, which will just hasten the end to the show. Ellen was horrible on SYTYCD, she thought it was all about her, and acted like she was doing a stand-up act. Ugh. I don’t think I can take that on AI, I already skip the parts with the judges, but this is just going to make it a lot worse At least Paula had some credibility, I doubt that Ellen will even know how to critique the singers.

  • Tess

    TPTB just don’t get it. At all.

    Sure they do…..It’s all about the bottom line and the bottom line is money. No way were they bringing Paula back…she is a walking embarassment, and they weren’t going to tag another over the hill singer wannabe for the job. And big name singers may have a big name today but they may not be the piece de resistance tomorrow, so choosing them would be iffy.

    And the powers that be know their demographic so they tapped someone who also pulls in that same kind of audience.

    And, as for the naysayers out there in idol blog land, what supernatural powers have been bestowed on them to be the “voice of American Idol” and to “know” what is and isn’t going to work for the show. They are just like us with opinions and personal preferences and see AI through their own pink tinged glasses.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I have thought all along that the writing was on the wall for Paula. After Jason-gate when she judged a performance before it was given, I think they finally decided enough was enough. They let her serve out her contract (easier that way) and let her save face (perform on the show, choreograph for the kids), and let it look like she rejected them.

    Meanwhile, they sign someone who has great chemistry with Simon and who loves the show and has a built in fan-base. I disagree with Slezak. I think it was a move that most of America will enjoy.

    ETA: I don’t think hiring Ellen was some master plan. BUT, I do think adding Kara was part of their plan to oust Paula. I also wonder if her stint on SYTYCD was a tryout of sorts. I bet they did focus groups to see if the at-home audience responded to Ellen. I did, so its not hard to believe others did too.

  • Q3

    I don’t feel any better about this today than I did yesterday.

    1. The Golden Goose is dying: This show should be mostly about the contestants – not about the judges. Part of American Idol’s unique formula was that there was a delicate balance between talent concest and reality show. Adding the 4th judge started to hurt that balance, but adding a comedian-celebrity judge to the panel shifts the balance too far into the realilty show zone.

    2. Can Ellen say anything negative? I don’t see how Ellen can maintain her public persona and still be a good judge. To qoute Michael Slezak:

    Until (or unless) Ellen drops the ‘nice gal’  persona, then she will not be representing the ‘people’s point of view,’  which is how she described her Idol role while taping an episode of The Ellen DeGeneres Show that will air today. … And my deepest fear is that in her new role, Ellen DeGeneres will be the voice of a beloved talk-show host and comedian who’s too concerned about damaging her public image to provide the kind of niceties-free feedback that the audience ‘” and yes, the contestants themselves ‘” need and deserve.

    3. What does Ellen add to the show? TPTB had could have taken this opportunity to add someone young, who knows what is going on with contemporary music, and who could attract 18 to 49 year old viewers Idol is loosing at a rapid pace. Instead they opted for Ellen — someone over 50, who has no real experience in the music business, and IMO no credibility as an AI judge.

    The shows already in Hollywood. Might as well have the contestants sing to 9 judges sitting in a 3×3 grid, judges all set with canned witty one-liners and snappy comebacks. Just add the X’s and O’s from the “Got Talent” shows and you have American Idol Hollywood Squares LOL.

  • becausehelives

    wow 5 long years !!!!. that’s a lot. hope we don’t hear “are u a carpenter becos u nailed it” ever again lol.

    I think she will be fine if she cuts back the corny jokes. I just feel bad abt the negative remarks she will get cos right now she is loved and i don’t see a lot of hatred towards her but it will start soon enough , i bet ya. i guess she can handle it . I will still DVR the show as planned cos CBS got me 4 those 2 hrs on Tuesdays. yay NCIS can’t wait.

  • will

    nvm

  • janerazor

    American Idol Hollywood Squares

    Make way for Bruce Vilanch and Whoopi Goldberg! X takes the square!

    I just can’t see this whole Ellen thing working out well…anyone remember when Monday Night Football stuck comedian Dennis Miller in the line-up?

  • becausehelives

    oh and with Ellen on the show, it’s definitely about the judges now, in case we had any doubts before. Her entire audience wld be tuning in to see HER. she has to bring what they are used to for them . she and simon already have this u are too mean act going on anytime he is on her show. so i am guessing when simon gives his critic, she will chime in and say something nasty in a funny way. or something like that.

    they can also incorporate her dancing into it. like when they introduce them she comes in with a little dance. i wld like to see simon dance too . haha . just a thought. carry on.

  • rangrwalkr

    Okay, so there goes another , at one time, a great reality show. Ellen D Generate. You have to be kidding. She is the most obnoxious wanna be male that I have ever had to displeasure to listen to on American Idol. My wife and I have watched every season and I can assure you with that individual, and I say that losely, on as a judge we will be finding something else that will have more excitement, like aminal planet.. The producers really have their head’s stuck way up their, you know whats. It wont be long now that American Idol takes a dive.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    When did Pauler ever say anything negative? Peeps are acting like she was some fantastic critic. LOL. You knew she didn’t like you if she said “you look lovely tonight.” That’s hardly constructive criticism.

    I hope people can give Ellen a shot, because I think she’s an improvement over Paula.

  • thesheriff

    As MJ stated and probably others..it will be good for ratings at least for this season….I personally think she’s funny as heck but I didn’t see her on the Dance show so have no idea how she was then.

    I just wish they would take some of the focus off the judges this year. Rather than spending the opening 5 minutes on Ryan and the judges – how bout they let one contestant sing a full version song each week as the opening and THEN introduce the judges as they begin their comments.

  • sidewalkstory

    On the brighter side of things, I think Adam Lambert paved the way for this. Without him, I don’t think TPTB would have thought to have a gay judge.

    I wonder what Pastor Pruitt has to say about this. And, heee, the Westboro Baptist Church must be busy planning their next protest.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    On the brighter side of things, I think Adam Lambert paved the way for this. Without him, I don’t think TPTB would have thought to have a gay judge.

    No. Ellen is already an A-list television figure. Adam isn’t there yet.

  • ross

    I personally think she’s funny as heck but I didn’t see her on the Dance show so have no idea how she was then.

    Not good.

  • dflowers

    When I heard this my first reaction was: Seriously??!! Ellen? Wow. Then after reading all the comments, ie

    Ellen brings in the perspective of the fan. She has no singing/producing/song writing backround. she is like having us be the judge. Like she said she has been watching the show forever.

    How many times have you sat in your EasyBoy yelling at the TV “Are you serious!!! Can’t you hear! He/She was great/terrible, on point/flat, What was she/he thinking!, etc, etc. etc.

    I think Ellen will give that perspective and I think I’ll reserve judgement till I see what she has to offer. It has to be better than Randy (Dawg) and Kara.

    And she won’t come with a bag of shitty coronation songs.

    And then there’s that.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    I saw her on SYTYCD. I think that’s entirely different from Idol. On SYTYCD, we EXPECT the judges to give cogent, informed opinions based on their expertise. The SYTYCD judges actually discuss the mechanics of dance. Why? Because these kids are going into the cut-throat business of trying to get in Broadway shows. On Idol, with the judges, it’s all about the sound bite and has always been. Idol is about finding someone who is going to appeal to the masses enough to get airplay on radio and sell CDs. You don’t have to be an incredible musician for that to happen. Fans often disagree with the judges because pop music is a fan-based enterprise. Ellen will represent the fans.

  • Jx223

    I like Ellen, but not as the fourth judge on AI. Sorry, I’d rather have Paula.

    ITA aek. I like Ellen as well, but I do not like the idea of her being the fourth judge on AI. I would rather have Paula back as well.

  • Jx223

    double post

  • will

    BTW, my second ‘WOW’ is based on friends who work on her show. She is a totally different person off camera.

    Do tell TwigLA! You can’t leave us hanging like that. . .

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  • sidewalkstory

    No. Ellen is already an A-list television figure. Adam isn’t there yet.

    A-list or not, she wouldn’t have been a consideration for the type of audience AI had before Adam Lambert broke the mold.

  • Buckeyegirl

    Ellen will be on with Ryan in a few…Ryan said they will discuss the details of how this all went down.

  • ravengirl

    I’m sure others have echoed this opinion, but I’ll toss in my 2 cents:
    WHY DO WE NEED A FRIKKING FOURTH JUDGE?

    I love Ellen but this bodes more focus again on judges and less on contestants. Did they learn nothing last season?
    Of course, I am one of those who said I would not be watching AI because I can’t imagine life after Adam, so whatevah.

  • will

    Damn, I wish Mayor Bloomberg had chimed in with his opinion. I’m DYING to know what he thinks!

  • ALYESKA2

    THE BAD NEWS IS…Ellen got a 5 YEAR (?) contract
    THE GOOD NEWS IS….The show won’t last another 5 years!

    Oh yeah, people will watch the first few shows just to see what ELLEN is going to do, god forbid it should be about the kids singing their hearts out. All that chitter-chatter-haha between the judges will be the shows format. They should rename the show American Idle Chatter Hour! Per-chance, is Ellen from Arkansas?

  • ShesSoAlive

    Ellen won’t be a musical expert, but maybe they feel she’s a “public opinion” expert. Either that or they want the comedy relief back. How can a contestant take her feedback seriously, except as a representative of the buying public? The thing is, the buying public has diverse musical taste (country anyone? Or how about thrash metal?) so how will she represent all musical preferences?

    She does feature the AI losers on her show, and she even pimps some of them (remember the kid that lived in his car and auditioned, but got the boot when he refused to let the band and backup singers accompany him?) Ellen has a heart for the losers. Not sure that’s going to play well on AI.

    I wish we had the opinion of the other 3 judges, whom I am sure feel like AI has sold out with this move. I do like her though, so I will tune in because I’m a big AI fan, and I’m interested to see how this plays out. A FIVE year contract though, holy cow. I’m sure Kara is steaming over that bit of news.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/RemusL/ RemusL

    A-list or not, she wouldn’t have been a consideration for the type of audience AI had before Adam Lambert broke the mold.

    Huh? Ellen’s key demographic is middle-aged white women, which is also one of the largest parts of AI viewership. Adam’s been great for AI but I seriously doubt he had anything to do with Ellen replacing Paula.

  • maturin

    Tess

    It is a made for profit reality show that uses and abuses young adults to get ratings and make more profit. It’s premise isn’t altruistic and it rarely discovers the ‘best’  talent to award with a career. And the voters of America are the farthest thing from experts when it comes to knowing and understanding talent. . . The show is what it is, a cheesy reality show that gets viewers involved.

    So true!

    Except for the time MY GUY won. That was totally the time They Got It Right. *

    WHAT, you know that’s what we all secretly believe.

    * substitute “the time MY GAL won, the time MY GUY came in 4th or 2nd but was huge anyway, or WHAT’S WRONG WITH BROADWAY?” as needed for your own therapeutic purposes.

  • sidewalkstory

    Adam’s been great for AI but I seriously doubt he had anything to do with Ellen replacing Paula.

    Would they have picked a gay judge before Adam? Unlikely.

  • Buckeyegirl
  • http://www.windsongcreations.artfire.com Anastasia72071

    producers call Ellen ‘warm, compassionate’  with an incredible sense of humor and a love of music.

    IF they’re going to have a fourth judge, they (not to mention the viewers) don’t need ‘warm compassionate humour,’ and they don’t need someone who merely loves music – they need a freakin’ JUDGE – and one who actually has some sort of musical background. In general I find Ellen kind of irritating and frankly not all that funny; the *only* thing that would make this palatable is if she leaves the warm fuzzies in her dressing room and pulls out the Snark Monster.

    …Then again, what am I complaining about – I won’t even be watching, LOL (I might have if they had brought in Shania permanently, but Ellen?? Meh.).

  • Squirrely

    Would they have picked a gay judge before Adam? Unlikely.

    I didn’t even make the gay connection. You think that’s why they chose her? If that’s the case why not Elton john or George Michael or even Boy George, Rufus Wainwright, Melissa Etheridge There are so many others who would have fit better than Ellen.

  • will

    I think Ellen’s interview with Ryan contained a bit of new news: She said the semi-finals are going to be a “boys’ night, girls’ night, and results night,” so that means a return to the old Top 24 format, right?

  • sidewalkstory

    I didn’t even make the gay connection. You think that’s why they chose her?

    I don’t think that’s why they chose her. However, I don’t think she would have even been considered if Adam hadn’t shaken things up first.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/voronas-ontario-american-idol-tour-recap.htm vorona

    I have a question…

    Does this mean a shake-up in the seating order at the table? I’m sure Simon will retain his Last Word seat on the far right, but where will Ellen’s seat be? Where will the producers want to place her comments in the range of Seuss-like nonsense from Randy, the mixed bag from Kara, and Simon’s edicts?

  • Squirrely

    I don’t think that’s why they chose her. However, I don’t think she would have even been considered if Adam hadn’t shaken things up first.

    You may have a point there.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/RemusL/ RemusL

    Would they have picked a gay judge before Adam? Unlikely.

    Um, they probably picked Ellen because she gets great ratings on her own show and has won numerous Emmy awards for best talk show and best talk show host. What makes you think sexual orientation had anything to do with it? I seriously doubt ANY allusion will be made to Ellen’s own sexuality on Idol.

    I don’t think that’s why they chose her. However, I don’t think she would have even been considered if Adam hadn’t shaken things up first.

    It’s not all about Adam you know. Really.

  • auntieaimee

    Yes, Ellen has Adam to thank for her success. LOL!

  • maturin

    Would they have picked a gay judge before Adam? Unlikely.

    Um, they probably picked Ellen because she gets great ratings on her own show and has won numerous Emmy awards for best talk show and best talk show host. .

    It’s not all about Adam you know. Really.

    Clearly, Idol never would have picked Ellen before Kris Allen’s breakthrough win, which was a victory for tiny people who wear comfortable shoes.

  • ahorseofcourse

    UUMMM!!! What were they thinking!

  • EntertainmentBlogger

    1) I love Ellen — AND her own show
    2) I don’t like this move
    3) Ellen has no musical expertise
    4) Paula, though a goof, was a singer with years of experience in the field
    5) I fear Ellen’s talk show may diminish in quality now that she has too many things going on!!

    THOUGHTS? Take my poll here:

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    Thanks for voting!!

  • EveLambert

    I am so much in favor of Ellen Degeneres being a judge on American Idol …..by the way she will be the third (3rd) judge because she is replacing Paula Abdul who was the third judge, Paula was there before Kara – so that makes Ellen the third judge.

    Hopefully Ellen could have Adam guest host her show in-between when she has her plate full…. I think he would be great – her show will definitely increase in ratings and gives us a chance to see Adam in a different light since we like to listen and watch his body language so much…….hey one hand washes the other in music/show biz!………and as I write this comment I am actually listening to “Jingle bells” – WUT – WUT!

  • spring2009

    Ok, I very rarely leave here because I always have catching up to do but the first Ellen article I click on outside of here and there is MJ. No need to leave here really.

    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=430429&GT1=28103

  • iluvai

    Ellen’s fans might help boost AI viewership. I guess it might now be called Ellen’s AI Show.

  • iluvai

    AI people, please give us 3 judges!!! I wonder what last season would have been like (for the fans) if we had gotten even at least one more song from each of the top 10.

  • iluvai

    “Ellen will represent the fans.”

    She is a fan. Like any AI fan. At least say that she will bring in her audience demographic. The marketing reason at least makes sense.