• songsungblue

    Thanks MJ! I’m curious to hear what he says. Although he looks like he’s Mr. Positive, so…

  • MayMirabella

    He told Ray that if he was voted off, he wanted to “take the audience to church” He didn’t want any sad faces–no crying.. Time to celebrate.

    I like when contestants do that. Paul and Casey seemed to have a similar outlook as they made their exits fun too.
    Jacob and the contestants and audience like that too as it makes them feel more comfortableand not feel so bad that someone was booted.
    I wish Jacob all the best. I think he would do so well on Broadway. I like the happy, smiling, exuberant Jacob.

  • MayMirabella

    He was expecting to be eliminated, because of the judges feedback and the quality of his performance. He felt the rest were fantastic and singing in their element.

    I like that and it is a realistic, mature way to look at this competition. Some contestants in past years who had a rough night do not seem to be in touch with that and seem surprised to be booted although they had a bad night. I tend to think Jacob was prepared for a few weeks for this as his body language on elimination weeks when he was in bottom 2 or 3.

  • Cari

    The comment had nothing to do with his vocal performance, but his song selection and what was going on in the world. It wasn’t about people voting for him.

    …What? He said if he was in the B3 it would be because American couldn’t look themselves in the mirror. How is that not about people voting for him? Silly.

  • Reflections On Life

    I loved his sing-out, especially how he just wouldn’t stop singing, and how all the other idols joined in the celebration. Joyous stuff!

  • flyaway

    Paul started the “celebration” at being voted off and Stefano and Casey followed suit. Remember Stefano trying to grab the mic from Ryan ’cause he just wanted to do his song?

    Will be interesting to see if the next 2 can continue the “I’m just happy I made it this far” theme.

    And, on Jacob’s comment about not having to worry anymore – hope that’s true for him but the most recent big voices, Big Mike, Lil, Syesha, Chikize (sp?) haven’t recorded any hits.

  • Niall

    Has anybody reached out to him from the Gospel world? He has not yet. But he has heard some things through the grapevine. He feels confident about the future.

    If the kid wants any hope at a future in music, he’d better be the one reaching out and setting up meetings. Too many of these folks take the attitude that they have it made now and then realize too late that AI is just a stepping stone that they have to work hard to exploit.

  • TwigLA

    I think Jacob is quite delusional.

  • sma11ie

    Paul started the “celebration” at being voted off and Stefano and Casey followed suit. Remember Stefano trying to grab the mic from Ryan ’cause he just wanted to do his song?

    It’s true. I’ve really enjoyed these last few sing-offs!

    Will be interesting to see if the next 2 can continue the “I’m just happy I made it this far” theme.

    Not Lauren for sure. Haley, yes, definitely. Scotty or James… unclear.

    And, on Jacob’s comment about not having to worry anymore – hope that’s true for him but the most recent big voices, Big Mike, Lil, Syesha, Chikize (sp?) haven’t recorded any hits.

    Syesha’s doing pretty well with her Broadway gigs, no? But with the acting stuff, it helps that she’s really pretty… unlike Jacob. I mean…

  • iggy

    Jacob seems like a really nice guy. I hope his dreams come true. He has the tour coming up so he’ll make some money from that. He was funny too.

  • Pam

    I think Jacob is quite delusional.

    THIS. He’s got to realize that things aren’t going to just be handed out to him on a silver platter. You have to work for your sucess.

  • Lois Lane

    I think Jacob is naive, not delusional. It speaks to how Idol doesn’t prepare the contestants for life after the show. The contestants have worked hard during the show, so they understand the determination that goes into it. But because many lack experience, they don’t see the big picture.

    I don’t any Idolette expects anything to be handed to them. They just don’t understand and Idol does nothing to help them with that, IMO.

  • mhann

    If Scotty got eliminated, not only do I see him going out on a positive note, I could actually see him singing “Gone” as his swan song.

  • dancingqueen

    I loved joyous Jacob at the beginning and again last night – somewhere in between, the joy was sucked out of him and he lost his way.

    Where does he say he expects to be handed everything? He said he wouldn’t have to struggle – for him that might just mean not being homeless again. He didn’t say he wasn’t planning to work. I doubt, at this point, he’s allowed by idol to contact people in the biz – he’s hopeful, from what he’s heard, someone will contact him.

    Most of these kids are just excited they’ll be making some money touring, and after that, it’s up to them.

  • Mel1

    I loved Jacob’s attitude.

    I think too many idol finalists are lead to believe that they are such a select group (of 100,000), and just being in the top 10 or so will lead to big things. I’m wondering how much money finalists like Jason Castro and Matt Giraud are making. It seems like there is always Broadway or musical theatre, if they can’t have a solo career.

    I guess Lauren expects (expected) to win, if she was that upset just being in the bottom two.

  • MayMirabella

    Will be interesting to see if the next 2 can continue the “I’m just happy I made it this far” theme.

    Yes Paul, Stefano, Casey, and Jacob have made it a party celebration of sorts and it has been fun for the audience and the othe contestants. It is like the ones to depart are cheering up the ones still left and that is good and actually something rather new this season and I like it.

    I loved joyous Jacob at the beginning and again last night – somewhere in between, the joy was sucked out of him and he lost his way.

    I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree.I noticed that too. I love exuberant, fun Jacob who was practically doing somersaults when he made top24 and when he is happy, he jumps around and laughs.i love that Jacob.

  • MayMirabella

    I guess Lauren expects to win, if she is that upset just being in the bottom two.

    I wonder if the producers and judges are trying to get her confidence up but going overboard to the extent that she is totally shocked and falls apart if she is in the bottom 2 like last night. She was crying from the time she heard that news until she was safe which had a commerical in there, she was still crying.
    She is young and I wonder if the show has not adequately prepared for this show in terms of how anyone can be eliminated in any given week..one never knows and how she will have rejections in the music business and it is a tough road to go down and it will not all be sunshine,flowers and platinum records and praise.

    Idol appears to be protecting her to some extent and I think they need to prepare her or at least make sure she sees how there will be tough times and not everyone will praise her performances the rest of her career.

  • MayMirabella

    I worry about her next week or the week after if she is cut before the Finale. Will she dissolve into a puddle of tears and fall apart. ? I think she will be fine if she is in the Finale as that annoucement comes at the very end and the mood is festive and celebratory and the end of the show and so on

    But I have a feeling she could go next week or end up third and just fall apart and the people remaining on the show and the judges and her parents are going to have to console her and help her through this. I am guessing Ryan is dreading this. Nigel may need to make a plan that if Lauren is sobbing that it might be ok to let her not sing her song and just let the others give her hugs and so on.

  • SpenserJ

    I’m wondering how much money finalists like Jason Castro and Matt Giraud are making.

    A lot of the previous alumni seem to have plently of opportunities. They don’t need to be huge recording artists to make a living. The do a lot of off-broadway stuff, appearances, gigs in small venues, behind the scenes stuff, etc. Even if a career of nothing but appearance fees awaits Jacob – it’s still better than being broke in Compton.

  • rbidol

    I know that this is not a thread about Lauren…but since it is part of the conversation (given that she was the one standing next to Jacob)…

    I think it is possible to over-analyze her tears. I know that she is really young, and I know that she apparently has self-confidence issues (though I’m not sure that I would know that if they didn’t mention it every episode! Talk about self-fulfilling prophesy!) but by the same token…some people just cry more than others.

    I remember Brooke White, who I loved. She cried plenty, especially when she was in danger of going home the few times that she was in the bottom 3. She is one of the few contestants that I can remember who could not get through her final performance. At the time, I know people were saying she is not stable.

    Guess what? She has been just fine…she’s had a strong career. A wonderful album…a starring role in a movie! And she probably still cries sometimes!

    Lauren will cry when (if?) she is voted off. But I am absolutely certain that she will have a good career in country music, and the momentary difficulty of being voted off will soon be a distant memory. So, I’m not very worried about it.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Lois Lane says:
    05/06/2011 at 2:32 pm

    I think Jacob is naive, not delusional. It speaks to how Idol doesn’t prepare the contestants for life after the show. The contestants have worked hard during the show, so they understand the determination that goes into it. But because many lack experience, they don’t see the big picture.

    I don’t any Idolette expects anything to be handed to them. They just don’t understand and Idol does nothing to help them with that, IMO.

    I think that you may be right about Jacob. As for the rest, it depends on the contestant, but generally, I agree. I think that Adam, Michael Johns, Carly, Paul, etc. may have had some insight into how tough it is to succeed, because they had some experience and contact with the industry before AI. I hope that Jacob is right and he doesn’t have to worry about making a living any more, but time will tell. Jacob seems like a nice guy who has had more than his share of troubles. He needs vocal coaching to get control over his singing though. I wish him well.

  • flyaway

    Anoop may be a good example for Jacob to follow. He moved to L.A. right after the tour ended, expecting to have all sorts of opportunities. Only took him a few months to realize he would have to market himself which is what he’s doing in Atlanta – writing and producing independently, booking smaller gigs.

    I’m not sure Jacob has the drive and/or business sense to do this.

  • jrain

    Imo it’s not idols job to prepare the contestants for life after idol. i’m sure some of that happens but in reality it takes months if not years sometimes. The tour will help as well. Idol is basically giving them a shot a record contract which anyone in the top 12 has a chance at and of course putting on a TV show. In the end not everybody can be a star.

  • desiree_chick

    As for that whole celebratory sing-off stuff… if you look closely over the past four guys leaving, as they look at their “moments” tape, or the time they have spent on the show, the realization on their faces that it will be all gone and they won’t see the other contestants too much for awhile kinda dawn on them. Hence, they all seem pretty misty watching their tape. Even Paul looked a bit misty. They won’t admit it, but their joyous sing-offs is to hide the fact that deep down, they feel like they want to cry, so the fun is to distract that feeling. At least Jacob admitted it.

    At least, I think so.

  • muzikghetto

    Good Luck, Jacob!

    If he says he would be fine, so be it. Perhaps the reason why I could always look forward to watching AI is that I really do not worry that much about the contestants. If my favourite got eliminated, I simply move on and try to find another one so that I could have a good excuse to still continue watching the show. If ever I come to a point when nobody could catch my attention, I would still watch although I would not have that much eagerness anymore. At the moment, I still put the show on my priority list.

  • Buffynut

    I am guessing Ryan is dreading this. Nigel may need to make a plan that if Lauren is sobbing that it might be ok to let her not sing her song and just let the others give her hugs and so on.

    I can’t remember who it was, I’m sure MJ will know, but a few years back one of the contestanst was crying so much she couldn’t sing. All the other contestants got off the couch and came and sang with her. It was a very sweet moment. I should remember who it was, but can’t. Maybe Brooke?

  • Ringo

    Naive or delusional, who knows. I do think that if he is believing any of the smoke the judges were blowing up his rear (and it sounds like he was), then he was being misled. I don’t think, or did hear anything to suggest he is anywhere close to the talent of Luther Vandross and, in my opinion, definitely not the holder of one of the best voices ever on Idol. He does seem like nice person from seeing his interaction with the other contestants and his voice and performances obviously appeal to someone. Good luck to him.

  • Ringo

    Frankly, I think the Lauren crying incident was overblown. I read about it first and expected a meltdown. But then watching the West Coast feed, I only saw here tearing up a bit. And it appeared that she had it together for a bit until some girls in the crowd yelled “We love you Lauren” right before Ryan announced Jacob’s demise. She broke a bit then, but again, nothing like I expected.

  • JudyOhio

    Brook had a hard time with her sing out the night she was eliminated. I couldn’t get this to link, but if you want to see it,

    go to YouTube – then type in Brooke White’s Emotional Elimination In Its Entirety

    She was obviously very emotional and does have tears coming down while singing and has a hard time holding it together.

  • muzikghetto

    I can’t remember who it was, I’m sure MJ will know, but a few years back one of the contestanst was crying so much she couldn’t sing. All the other contestants got off the couch and came and sang with her. It was a very sweet moment. I should remember who it was, but can’t. Maybe Brooke?

    I remembered that emotional exit very well because she has strong facial similarities with Carrie Underwood. She is Season 7’s Alaina Whitaker. She was around 16-17 then.

  • SybilTrelawney

    I don’t think there is a market for Jacob in the R&B world. He’s not a credible romantic crooner. Maybe in Gospel or Christian music — Mandisa has made herself a very nice career there.

  • YeahRight

    TwigLA says:
    I think Jacob is quite delusional.

    I did not read anything in there that showed Jacob to be delusional. If anything, he seems excited and looking forward to what’s to come next. He’s not walking around saying he’s going to win a Grammy in two years.

  • chrislongisland

    I will say this: Jacob has come a long long way from his humble beginnings, and regardless of my personal music tastes, anytime someone fights off homelessness and reaches these heights, I give him all the credit in the world for not giving up.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    In regard to the show’s producers feeling any responsibility towards the contestants in preparing them for what comes after the show is over, I think that this quote from Ken Warwick’s conference call with reporters back in late April pretty much sums it up:

    Is Ken concerned about marketing another male winner?

    “I make a television show, at the end of that show, I hopefully give the record company a person who has a following of 20, 30 million people. What they do from then on has absolutely nothing to do with me. I then move on to the next year’s show.”

    The producers only care about the show. The show is everything. “a following of 20, 30 million people”? Ken’s an idiot.

  • JudyL

    TwigLa thinks Jacob is quite delusional and I agree with her. To quote from his conference call:

    It’s now time for me to get to work, time for me to put out those great R&B records, time for me to go on auditions, and get on Broadway and maybe do some film. I definitely see some duets in my future, hopefully Chaka Kahn, Patti Labelle, maybe a little Whitney Houston for me

    He has no problem comparing himself to Vandross and thinking some of the greats will be dueting with him. I find these remarks very delusional and not at all self-aware.

    IMO Jacob does not have nearly the talent of many eliminated contestants from other seasons and he has little chance of succeeding. But maybe he’ll learn and grow during the tour, who knows.

  • Mtlfan

    the tour will do him some good :)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Now that I’ve read the full transcript of Jacob’s interview, he does give me the impression that he has an overly optimistic opinion of his own abilities and prospects.

  • Dlynne

    I don’t know if he’s delusional or not very realistic. These kids seem to think that if they make the Top 12 they’ve got careers in music ahead of them and that’s just not necessarily true.

  • artemis

    One reason the singers with more professional experience, like Paul,tend to perform a happy sing-off is that they know this is a last opportunity to showcase their talent in front of a huge, nationwide audience.They are not going to blow it or waste precious seconds of their performance spotlight by crying. They want to leave the audience entertained and wanting more.
    Show business is full of rejection.The younger ones had better get used to it.

  • Reflections On Life

    If Stefano & Jacob both sound a little naive about what opportunities await them after AI, it could be that working with Iovine and all the famous producers have led them to think that some opps await with these guys. It’s diff than previous Idol seasons, so they have every reason to hope to either work with these guys or network through them to other possibilities. Maybe still not realistic to expect any results, but this year’s AI contestants automatically have a rolodex that previous AI alums have not.

  • koshka

    fuzzywuzzy says:
    05/06/2011 at 6:43 pm
    Now that I’ve read the full transcript of Jacob’s interview, he does give me the impression that he has an overly optimistic opinion of his own abilities and prospects.

    Kind of reminds me of last year when the contestants were talking about the album they would put out after tour was over.

  • koshka

    this year’s AI contestants automatically have a rolodex that previous AI alums have not.

    Personally I don’t think their rolodex is any more stuffed than previous contestants. Well, maybe a tiny bit since they work one on one with the producers. Although if you think about it, the previous seasons had to work with a producer too for their studio versions. Just because we don’t recognize them, doesn’t mean that they are a nobody in their field. But really are these (or seasons past) guys going to be able to pick up a phone and take these guys to lunch? Hard to say. It’ll be interesting to see how/who puts out music at the end of tour.