Steven Tyler Slams New "American Idol" Judges (VIDEO) (UPDATED: NICKI TELLS STEVEN TO F Off)

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Nicki Minaj responds via twitter:

Steven Tyler said I would have sent Bob Dylan to a cornfield??? Steven, you haven’t seen me judge one single solitary contestant yet! I understand you really wanted to keep your job but take that up with the producers. I haven’t done anything to you. That’s a racist comment. You assume that I wouldn’t have liked Bob Dylan??? why? black? rapper? what? go fuck yourself and worry about yourself babe.. LOL lets make him a shirt that says “No Coloreds Allowed” then escort him down 2 Barbara Walters so he can tell how he was threatened w/guns. When Steven 1st went on Idol he was ridiculed by his peers & fans alike. Called a sell out. So what does he do? Ridicule the next judge.

 

In a recent interview with MTV news, Steven Tyler criticized the new American Idol judges. Specifically, he chastised Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey for not keeping the focus on the kids:

“I know that they’ve got something going on on the judges’ panel, [and] it shouldn’t be that, it should be just the opposite: They should have something going on, which is called ‘camaraderie,’ ” he said. “They should have something going on so thick and beautiful that they can lay it over the new talent that’s trying to birth itself. It needs to be birthed, not judged by ‘entertainment’ factors, it needs to be judged by people that [are] honest, true, that have the ‘it’ factor. Not the ‘it’ factor because they can fight. The f— is that all about?”

“You just have to give your opinion. It wasn’t hard for me, but I would imagine it’s hard for some people, and they need a manager to say ‘Shut the f— up, and just give them your opinion,’ ” Tyler said. “These kids, they just got out of a car from the Midwest somewhere and they’re in New York City, they’re scared to death; you’re not going to get the best [out of them]. … If it was Bob Dylan, Nicki Minaj would have had him sent to the cornfield! Whereas, if it was Bob Dylan with us, we would have brought the best of him out, as we did with Phillip Phillips. Just saying.”

I agree with him, but I never got the impression from HIS behavior on set that he gave a frak about the kids either. There are many ways a person can fail a job they were hired to do. One way would be to mentally check out and give the kids–who could really use the help–the lamest critiques ever. Just Sayin.

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  • jobeob987

    I definitely agree with you, MJ.  Many times, I could swear Steven was literally sleeping on the job only to rouse himself and say, “That was beautiful.”

  • SullyD

    Steven was harsher in this interview than he ever was on the last two seasons of idol, lol.

  • blackberryharvest

    I agree with him, but I never got the impression from HIS behavior on
    set that he gave a frak about the kids either. There are many ways a
    person can fail a job they were hired to do. One way would be to
    mentally check out and give the kids–who could really use the help–the
    lamest critiques ever. Just Sayin.

    Agree 100%.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    What a bunch of BS from Steven! He didn’t give a crap about any of the contestants, and now is taking credit for P2′s success? Pretty lame.

    ETA: Even P2 admitted that the judges were too easy on him, and he deserved more criticism.

  • standtotheright

    “Well, I didn’t give a damn about anything but my own career, either, but at least I sat in the chair and lied through my teeth about it! Why can’t more people be hypocrites like me?”

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    What the hell does he mean about Bob Dylan and Nicki? What, because she’s a rapper, she couldn’t see how good of a creative artist he is? And P2 and Dylan in the same paragraph? REALLY!? And I’m not even a Dylan fan. Sir…SIT DOWN! Nobody cares about your useless ass anymore. You hardly contributed a damn thing except sleeping on the job. All you cared about was promoting your career.

  • jlscott13

    Oh, Steven, you silly goose…

  • blackberryharvest

    Nicki fights back! And Steven Tyler is trending on twitter…

    Nicki Minaj ?@NICKIMINAJ Steven Tyler said I would have sent Bob Dylan to a cornfield??? Steven, you haven’t seen me judge one single solitary contestant yet!

  • jlscott13

    She tweeted a couple more times after that too. LOVE HER. Hehe.

    *Grabs popcorn*

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake Williams

    Adult judges shouldn’t flirt with little kids either. I’m looking at you Steven.

  • chillj

    Stephen ain’t that noble, either, but I still like him calling out these people; they need to get a grip.

  • chillj

    Nicki made a good point, but now she needs to shut up.  She might be a good judge, but if she is a poor one, she will straighten up a bit now.

  • SullyD

    I’m much more keen on Aerosmith’s music than Nicki’s, but she’s absolutely correct.
    I don’t know if this was a “racist” comment since I don’t think it had anything to do with her ethnicity, but it was definetely bigoted, as if a rapper/urban artist wouldn’t appreciate a singer outside their genre.

  • http://twitter.com/bluinjewin Landon Cox

    From the man who abused the word beautiful for 2 years? Gurrrrrl

  • elliegrll

    So, Steven agreed to be a judge just because it would upset his bandmates, which would have been fine, but he then decided just take up space on the panel, and not really judge.  He was the poster child for someone who was on the show, because he thought that he could financially benefit from the experience.  He and his bandmates talk about how Steven being on the panel caused people to buy their albums.  I would think that the irony of this wouldn’t be lost on Mr. Tyler.  At the least he should know that his failure to actually judge the contestants lead to the show being very boring.  

  • elliegrll

    I don’t even think he’s lied over the past two seasons.  I think that he’s been very upfront about why he was on the show.  

  • elliegrll

    I don’t even think he’s lied over the past two seasons.  I think that he’s been very upfront about why he was on the show.  

  • bridgette12

    How can Stephen call anyone out when he was the worst judge Idol has ever had. If any of these contestants do have any type of  success, it won’t be because of the judges, it’s going to be in spite of the judges.  

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Nicki vs Steven now. lol

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Can we just let the girl judge before we call what she will and won’t like? Damn Steven! LOL!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    If it was Bob Dylan, Nicki Minaj would have had him sent to the cornfield! 

    Steven Tyler makes the best comments about American Idol out of American Idol. Gotta love him.

    ETA: and the response of Nicki? that’s the kinda of trash comment and meltdown that we’re gonna have everytime someone criticizes her. This is gonna be a hell of a funny season.

    Maybe not.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Go Nicki! lol

  • too-cool-for-school

    Untimely remarks! He could have commented on this, y’know, when the ‘feud’ actually began and was going on.

  • Hellraiser77

    Beautiful, just beautiful… And hot, humid and coming!!! LMAO

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    Well I agree with Nicki, you can’t criticize her until you see as a Judge, but based on her personality I do have an opinion of what it will be like, but till I see her in action I’ll keep my mouth shut :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    What a hoot!   Didn’t Tyler initially take this gig because he knew it would piss off Joe Perry?   No one ever accused Tyler of being a philosopher just  a rawk star.  The Dylan and cornfield remark was, however, priceless.   Still laughing. 

  • durbesque

    Lest we forget… It was the Randy/JLo/Steven regime that produced 2 successful winners in 2 years.  They did their job.

  • too-cool-for-school

    That trio did pick good contestants and will always be able to be proud of that. And I dislike Nicki already but Steven doesn’t have that much of a leg to stand on here… his critiques were never stellar.

    I feel like he was most interesting when he would try to jump into disagreements between Randy and J Lo. It was rare but it happened, haha. That’s when he had something worthwhile to say. :P

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    I thought Ellen was the worst judge AI had. But really, I think all of the judges have been pretty useless over the years.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Untimely, but MTV chose to ask him about it now. 

  • OffLeash

    Heh. She’s right. Nobody who’s not part of the current show has seen her judge yet. And speaking of judging, I can’t remember when Steven ever did that. 

  • too-cool-for-school

    Ah, right. In that case, untimely MTV news!

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Oh, I didn’t know the cornfield remark was supposed to be racist against Nicki. I thought he was saying that she probably would have told Dylan to go back to the farm.

  • mjsbigblog

     I’m pretty sure that’s what he meant, Dylan being from Minnesota and all. lol.

  • OffLeash

    Same here. Didn’t even occur to me until I read your post. 

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    And by the way Steven, Dylan is a bad example, he’s known for his song writing and I don’t remember Idol ever highlighting that (cough karokee cough) and on vocal ability alone I don’t think Steven would have picked him either

  • girlygirltoo

    Did I miss the  show where Steven may have possibly made it about the contestants? When he wasn’t flirting inappropriately with young girls or pimping his own music, he was pretty much tuned out. 

  • girlygirltoo

    I don’t think they had much to do with it. The voters would have gone with Scotty and Phillip no matter what the judges said. Maybe they get a smidge of credit to putting them through to the voting rounds…

  • mileyfan123

    Nicki does have a point that it is pretty damn presumptuous of Steven to assume she doesn’t like Bob Dylan, and it very well could be because of her race that he made that assumption.

  • Pippygirl

    As long as Mariah and Nicki keep their eyes open and speak in coherent sentences they will be head and shoulders above Tyler. 

  • standtotheright

    Oh, I didn’t know the cornfield remark was supposed to be racist against Nicki.

    I don’t think it was so much the “cornfield” comment as the suggestion that she couldn’t appreciate a male singer-songwriter because she is a female and a rapper, and, psst, black.

  • OffLeash

    LOL

  • Lovesyesha

    I know some people had a problem with her personality, but honestly the only judge on American Idol over the past several years that actually gave insightful critiques that were balanced and seemed to be objective was Kara Dioguardi. Dislike her all you want, she gave vocal and artistic critiques to all of the contestants, and I found that refreshing. Aside from her, all these judges the past few years have been useless, including Steven, even though I am a fan of him.

  • OffLeash

    From the comments here, it’s 1-0 for #Nicki! Steven missed a chance to STFU. He should’ve known by now the lady won’t take it lying down.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    and the response of Nicki? that’s the kinda of trash comment and meltdown that we’re gonna have everytime someone criticizes her. This is gonna be a hell of a funny season.

    Yep, Nicki definitely has reactions that are out of proportion to the perceived criticism. If Nicki had left out the trashiness and and the jump to racism, which didn’t even make sense, she would have made a good argument for herself. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Well, to be fair, if you HEARD a Bob Dylan style audition, who wouldn’t send him to a cornfield? Key word HEARD. 

    Even if you heard an original you might just tell him to stick to songwriting since that’s what he’s good at and his voice is like nails on a chalkboard. 

    ….That’s all beside the point. I don’t really have a strong reaction to Steven and Nicki whatsoever. 

  • genius13

    This may be very presumptuous but from the commercials ive seen and from her tell-it-like-it-is personality, I think Nicki will be a great judge and I think she might change a few minds of some of those who seem to dislike her so much….I can just picture the comments now lol

  • Valarie

    I don’t think Steven’s comments were bad at all. The show SHOULD be about the kids and not about judges liking each other (or not). Nicki answers the most gentle critique with all out nuclear war. The woman has anger issues.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Well, I think outside the bubble it’s 10000 – 0 for Steven (see links below for example). I don’t even agree with Steven and I think he was a joke as a judge but his remark is basically unbeatable. I have now this vision on my mind of a furious Nicki screaming at a young and disappointed Bob Dylan  and sending him back to the cornfield and i can’t take it out of my mind. LMAO. He makes brilliant remarks when he wants to. 

    http://www.gossipcop.com/steven-tyler-nicki-minaj-feud-fight-racist-american-idol-judges/

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/nicki-minaj-slams-former-american-idol-judge-steven-tyler-on-twitter-20122611

    http://www.eonline.com/news/366038/american-idol-throwdown-nicki-minaj-unleashes-twitter-fury-at-former-judge-steven-tyler

  • Incipit

    He could have commented on this, y’know, when the ‘feud’ actually began and was going on.

    Well, but he did. It was covered here at mj’s and many other blogs. – “As he was leaving a Los Angeles-area restaurant Friday night (Oct. 5), TMZ asked Tyler if he thinks the whole Mariah/Nicki feud is B.S. and he says, “‘Course, are you kidding?”

    So if he’s suddenly noticing that it switches focus from the contestants, BS or not – starting a war of words with the verbally litigious rapper only changes the focus further away from the contestants. So what does Aerosmith have coming out soon?

    Yes, I am cynical a realist.

    But, the “cornfield” remark has another specific application from the decade of The Twilight Zone that used to be common coin, and it would be right in Steven’s generational wheelhouse. I know, because it’s in mine, and it was the first reference that I thought of when I read it – from an extra weird episode with a very young Billy Mumy  of “Danger, Will Robinson” fame – “sent to the cornfield” meant to make someone  *poof* – to disappear.

    Considering there has been speculation here in the past that Bob Dylan’s vocals wouldn’t get him past the producers casting requirements…and Tyler then patting himself on the back for Phillip – that’s the connection I buy.

    JMO. Of Course.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    As much as she is volatile in her response, don’t you think it is unfair to judge her, in that she wouldn’t be open-minded to other genres, just because she is a rapper? Why isn’t anybody worried about a country singer like Keith Urban, not giving someone like a Joshua Ledet a chance?

  • Chris

    Yeah, Steven could have been worse and he’s just saying what others have… check your ego at the door, make it about the kids.

    To be fair, he had his moments of helping, e.g. allowing Lauren to sing on his new album (I don’t think any other Idol judge has stepped out that far – Blake on the Voice has been generous, but that’s about it.)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Yes, I do think it is unfair to judge Nicki on what type of judge she will be with the contestants before the first live show. That’s why I said she could have made a good argument for herself instead of coming off like a hot-headed, trash-mouthed hysterical kind of person.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Nicki Minaj?@NICKIMINAJ LOL lets make him a shirt that says “No Coloreds Allowed” then escort him down 2 Barbara Walters so he can tell how he was threatened w/guns

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    What Steven probably meant is that Nicki is talentless and can’t recognize talent. Bob Dylan wasn’t even a great singer, but he had a lot of talent as a musician (at least it’s what most of people think, lol)

  • BonnieDee

    I am so sick of Nicki Minaj already and the show hasn’t even started yet.

  • Incipit

    @NICKIMINAJ LOL lets make him a shirt that says “No Coloreds Allowed” then escort him down 2 Barbara Walters so he can tell how he was threatened w/guns

    That tweet is flat-out self-indulgent nonsense, IMO. The girl has verbal diarrhea. WTF “coloreds”? – You wanna throw down the Race Card, really? And expect people to believe it? What “color” does she think Randy Jackson is, who sat on the same panel with Steven for two years? 

    And by all means, lets drag the Faux Feud into this w/the gun reference. It’s all just tiresome. From all of them. IMO.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    I got to back Nicki here. Tyler should go somewhere and sit his old ass down, collect his Aerosmith money and shut the fuck up about the judges. He’s had his day in the Idol sun, and since leaving has done nothing but throw shade about the whole Idol shebang.  He as much as admitted he was there solely for the money and to kinda piss of his Aerosmith bandmates, so him trying to ascertain Minaj’s or Carey’s motives, judging style or cred is BS. I ain’t mad at him for getting paid the past 2 years – his hustle was hella smooth in landing the gig, but he’s moved on, he got what he wanted out of the deal, so now he needs to grab one of these —> _/ a seat, and proceed to STFU about the current crop of judges before seeing them in action.  Flapping those jaws now looks an awful lot like sour grapes – not a good look for him.

  • steph6449

    So much to dislike in this one. 

    Steven seems to be just commenting from superficially reading tabloid reports, which isn’t fair unless he has more to base this on that isn’t apparent. And Nicki appears awfully quick to throw the race card out there on something that isn’t clearly about that, which isn’t fair unless {ditto}.

    Also the example of Bob Dylan seems pretty ancient for a show that won’t even air until 2013, lol.

    Whether Nicki is overly critical or too gushy as a judge remains to be seen. And all they have done to this point is the auditions anyway, so how could you really even tell? IMO you have to see the judges in action for a few episodes to get much feel for how they will be.

    Nurturing talent is one thing and all, but crazy OTT praise deserved or not is its own problem so Steven shouldn’t been too comfy about how he did himself or the others with their camaraderie. He was somewhat interesting if kooky in his early appearances but then it just got to be too full of mush so I wasn’t too sorry that he didn’t continue into this year.

  • Vital

    I can’t back either of them here.

    Both are being too quick to judge.  Steven with judging her as a judge, and Nicki with the whole “racist comment” thing.

    I would side with Nicki had she been able to leave race out of it.  She was upset, and rightfully so, but falsely accusing someone of being racist is just wrong no matter how upset you are. 
    So essentially, only half her argument against him was strong when it could have been completely strong with that part left out.

  • merkureye

    While I personally believe Steven Tyler was worthless as a judge and his comment on Nicki’s judging was uncalled for and quite frankly, cowardly (he didn’t take on Mariah Carey who is just as guilty as Nicki for bickering on the panel) - Nicki needs learn the art of silence. 

    If she would quit immediately defending herself everytime she perceives some type of slight toward her, it would give time for others to come to her aid.  The weight of the stupidity of Tyler’s comment coupled with the slightly racist tinge would have made Steven very uncomfortable for a few days and quite possibly required a public apology.  Nicki’s violent and profane defense of herself leaves no room for anyone else to speak on her behalf.  Silence is often golden.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Dylan would of told her he ain’t gonna work on Maggie’s farm no more :D

    (I may be a little bit of a Dylan fanatic)

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    THis chick just gets more unlikeable every day. She’s a self-indulgent, self-important little snot and her voice sounds like ass.

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake Williams

    I agree!

  • Montavilla

    I know some people had a problem with her personality, but honestly the only judge on American Idol over the past several years that actually gave insightful critiques that were balanced and seemed to be objective was Kara Dioguardi. Dislike her all you want, she gave vocal and artistic critiques to all of the contestants, and I found that refreshing.

    I agree.  She wasn’t perfect, but she had a professional point of view and she could often deliver helpful, pointed critiques.  

  • sdmama

    Phillip, duck! Run away. Steven, please don’t drag him into this.  IMHO, his success has a lot with Jimmy, not you.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I will “accept” Nicki if she adds to Idol’s ratings.  Personality, so far….not good.

  • Anny_nanny

    I saw Nick judge only once in ANTM, she discussed the hair. OK, I really miss about Paula and Ellen. Ugh!

  • waynestrong

    I don’t see anything wrong with Steven’s comment. If judges are making Idol more about themselves rather than the contestants they may send home a future superstar or distract from one of the kids making a name for themselves. I think there are some people in the world who see racism or bigotry everywhere, even when none is intended like Al Sharpton or in this case Nicki Minaj.

    Nicki is making a big fuss over nothing. Guess Nicki doesn’t know there are white farmers Or that kids from small towns can miss their big break on AI and be sent right back where they came from.

    I Like the quick spin pulling out the race card though that will make people respect you… NOT.

  • http://twitter.com/MikhailXO MichaelG (MikhailXO)

    Not sure I understand the “racist” allegation with the use of “cornfields”. Ummmmm…Nicky is whacked. What a dolt.

  • GinaBallerina

    “And by the way Steven, Dylan is a bad example, he’s known for his song writing and I don’t remember Idol ever highlighting that (cough karokee cough) and on vocal ability alone I don’t think Steven would have picked him either”

    I was thinking the same thing…does anyone remember the book Simon wrote after season two called “I’m Not Trying to be Rude but…”?  I am not ashamed to say I read it!  Anyway, there’s a section in there where he gives examples of what he would say to famous singers auditioning for AI.  If I recall correctly he used Dylan as an example of someone he would have passed on.  Interesting that Steven would use him as an example.  There are certain stars, like Dylan, who simply have something intangible that transcends vocal ability.  They could never get by on vocals alone.  Conclusion: terrible example from Steven but I would expect nothing less!

  • tripp_ncwy

    Steven those comments were just beautiful, just beautiful

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     And Tyler isn’t? LOLOL… I consider them both to be whack, and doltish at times – but both have other redeeming qualities for their fans… it’s said even broken clocks are right at least 2x a day. In this contest of whacked out dolts, I still think Nicki’s right overall.  Tyler has no cause or reason to be trying to call anyone out on what he perceives MAY be bad judging – unless he’s been privy to seeing the panel in action during the audition rounds, and I don’t think he’s had more access to that than any of us – thus the need for him to sit his ass down right heah —> _ in this seat, like the rest of us and wait till the show starts. His “critique”, if that’s what this was supposed to be, may carry more weight then. Right now he sounds and is starting to look like a sore loser/sour grapes panderer/poser trying to ride some Idol related coattails for free publicity for him and his touring bandmates during this recent CD cycle for them… why else make such a stupid comment?

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I’m a fan of Minaj, but she is way off base playing the race card. Just because someone is critical of a person of color doesn’t mean it’s about race. There are a lot of stars from the past that I don’t think would necessarily make it in front of the AI judges. I agree with Stephen that if Bob Dylan was put in front of the judges and AI audience, he would get laughed at. 

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I don’t think anyone should assume that it’s about race. Minaj comes from a totally different musical demographic. I don’t picture Minaj or her fans listening to Bob Dylan, and it’s not because they are black, it’s because they don’t listen to that kind of music per say.

  • usedtobelucy

    I hate these people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Corey/100001242253711 Chris Corey

     Steven Tyler sems very bitter IMO. He was fired from Idol, I wish he would admit it. While he was good in the auditon early rounds he sucked in the live shows providing no criticism but the word beautiful. The big thing they can cliaim in the Tyler-Lopez-Jackson years is they found two solid winners. Scotty McCreery and Phillip Phillips were gold for the Idol dyntasy. Especialy afte two weak winners the years before. Nicki should just not comment on this but I have a feeling I am going to really like her.The Idol panel needs some edge back, it was so sweet and boring during those Tyler/Lopez years even though they found two great winners. Also Steven should not take credit for Phillip Phillips. It was Jimmy/Greg Holden who gave him an amazing song.

  • standtotheright

    I don’t picture Minaj or her fans listening to Bob Dylan, and it’s not because they are black, it’s because they don’t listen to that kind of music per say.

    How do you know that?  Subterranean Homesick Blues is considered a precursor to rap by more than a few critics. Dylan has appeared on at least one hip hop album. And I know plenty of rap fans who also listen to rock music.

    It’s a knee-jerk assumption and knee-jerk assumptions generally don’t develop in a vaccuum. She’s not crazy to assume that there were some racial undertones there, IMO. Coming from Tyler, when Aerosmith itself partnered with Run-DMC back in the day, it’s particularly disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I think it’s a knee jerk assumption that the Bob Dylan reference was racist, which is my point. When I see Bob Dylan on the rap charts and being played in the clubs, then I will recant my statement. Until then, I stick by it.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    When I see Bob Dylan on the rap charts and being played in the clubs, then I will recant my statement.

    Mash-ups and samples of Dylan have been used by major rappers for years: Rolling Stone hits some highlights.

  • standtotheright

    When I see Bob Dylan on the rap charts and being played in the clubs, then I will recant my statement.

    He’s not on the rock charts even with a new album out. Does that mean that rock fans don’t listen to him?

    And Questlove of the Roots is also a DJ, and a Dylan fan, and has played his stuff in his club sets. Care to try again?

  • roarpen

    1. Steven is right, regardless of what he did on the show. But it’s based upon pre-Idol press; we haven’t seen them judge yet so he may end up being wrong in the long run.
    2. I totally get his drift about Bob Dylan. BUT, I just attended a Dylan concert and it was pure torture. Dude should have retired from the singing part awhile ago. And, even though Dylan was amazing in his time, he would never have, and should never have, won a SINGING contest. I know I know, Phillip won and he isn’t exactly the greatest voice either. Well, maybe he will learn from Dylan and retire before his voice is totally gone. LOL.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” Steven Tyler sems very bitter IMO. He was fired from Idol, I wish he would admit it.”

    Exactly, and this has been coloring all of his public statements about Idol ever since.

  • GinaBallerina

    I just have to say…lots of AWESOME comments from AI viewers on this!  We are much more savvy than Steven OR Nicki. : )

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    Are you seriously saying that Nicki Minaj fans are listening to Bob Dylan? lol. I never said Dylan wasn’t known by rap artists. So that is kind of reach to me. I stick by my opinion.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     A mash up is different than listening to Bob Dylans actual music. I just don’t see hip hop fans going out and buying his Greatest Hits package. Sure, there is always the possibility, but It isnt likely IMO.

  • julesb2183

    I actually think JLo and Steven cared about the contestants – at least more so than Simon (who checked out years ago and had his sights set on XFactor) and Kara, who just wanted to be liked.

    Nicki could be a good judge, but I am worried about her on the live shows. If what has happened pre-Idol is an indication, she is not going to take well to the booing from the audience when she gives a negative remark or the criticisms from the viewers.

  • standtotheright

    Are you seriously saying that Nicki Minaj fans are listening to Bob Dylan?

    I’m saying music fans are music fans. You don’t have any compelling storyline to say that they aren’t listening to Dylan, and certainly not one to say that the rap artist herself isn’t familiar with him. Until you show me some biographical statements from Minaj that support your gut instinct, it is, again, a knee-jerk assumption that has no place in Tyler’s attempts to critique her as a judge or for fans to support him in it.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I’m saying music fans are music fans.

    In that vein, here’s a piece of music trivia. Bob Dylan’s aspiring rapper grandson, Pablo Dylan, had a track on his not-terribly-successful 2011 debut mixtape that “featured” Nicki Minaj (though “sampled” is probably a more accurate term for her actual level of participation): Boston Phoenix track-by-track review.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    There are things called Genres for a reason. Of course some people might listen to all sorts of different things, but most of the massed produced pop crap (which some I actually like) is aimed at a certain audience. I would love to see the percentage of people who actually listen to Bob Dylans MUSIC, not remixed or sampled, and listen to Nicki Minaj just as much. I didn’t say there weren’t people who listen to both artists, but I doubt it’s as much as you think. I listen to all varieties of music, Minaj included. I lover her music. I like a few Dylan songs, but don’t have any of it on my computer. So I see where Tyler is coming from, and still stick to my knee-jerk assumptions, actions, and opinion lol.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

    Steven isn’t one to publicly criticize someone extensively on television. He does it offstage. Just like a good manager who is running a business does it behind close doors. It’s not only the respectable thing to do, it’s the wise thing.

    Nicki on the other hand is the equivalent of a musical insult comic with a thin skin.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

    No, Steven agreed to be a judge because he wasn’t sure the band had a future because of personal conflicts (they weren’t talking) and he needed the money in his old age after squandering what he had made when he was younger. He thought, “I could do this.” I’m sure his dad being a music teacher influenced his thinking (and how he criticized contestants). The band was upset he didn’t tell them beforehand.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

     She isn’t a lady.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

    Bob Dylan is seven years older than Steven Tyler. His most notable songs were big in 1963, 1964 and 1965. If 15-, 16-, and 17-yr old Steven Tyler and his contemporaries had not embraced Dylan he would not be so known today.

  • elliegrll

    Your version of events doesn’t match up with what Steven Tyler told an interviewer last year.  I don’t know the ends and outs of Tyler’s financial situation, but I doubt that he was about to be destitute, or that he did AI for the money.  He and his band aren’t going to make a lot on their new music, but their older stuff is still popular, and bringing them a lot of royalties, even if they decided to split up and never tour again.

  • elliegrll

    Are you seriously saying that Nicki Minaj fans are listening to Bob Dylan?

    I’m sure that Nicki has fans who like different styles of music, just like most people do.