Nicki Minaj Has A Twitter Meltdown After Mariah Talked to Barbara Walters (VIDEO)

This story is literally breaking. Mariah Carey spoke to Barbara Walters this morning by phone, which aired on The View. Soon after, Nicki Minaj went on a twitter rant, which is still ongoing.

ETA: So Mariah Carey aired Idol dirty laundry and accused Nicki Minaj of threatening to shoot her on The View this morning. Nicki is furious. To be honest, I don’t blame her. But she’s making it worse by venting on twitter.

This very public catfight between two women is so UGLY to watch. It calls up too many awful sexist and racist stereotypes. ME NO LIKEY. It’s going to ruin the show. FIRE EVERYONE AND START FROM SCRATCH NIGEL.

From ABC News:

Mariah Carey Claims Nicki Minaj Said She’d ‘Shoot Her’ Over ‘Idol’ Feud

“American Idol” judge Mariah Carey says multiple people heard fellow
judge Nicki Minaj say, “If I had a gun, I would shoot the b***h” after
launching a curse-filled rant at Carey during an “Idol” audition, Barbara Walters said on “The View” today after interviewing Carey.

Carey told Walters, who conducted the interview this morning before
the show, that she “doesn’t feel comfortable emotionally” but will
continue with the show and has hired extra security.

Carey, 42, told Walters the altercation between the judges began when
they disagreed on a contestant’s audition Tuesday in Charlotte, N.C.

The judges had a meeting with producers Wednesday to discuss the
altercation. After the meeting, Minaj told Carey, “I love you but we
might fight again,” to which Carey responded, “No, we will not,” Walters
said.

Minaj’s representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

http://youtu.be/HX0EsJixFMo

Here’s Nicki responding not only to Mariah, but to Idol producers as well.  She’s REALLY pissed at Mariah. I’ll be adding the tweets as they appear.

  • fantoo1

    I wish they would stop milking this and move on. Don’t go this direction, idol! Just make one of the ladies quit and we can start focusing on talent.

    At the same time though her twitter meltdowns are entertaining :)

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Can they just all go away?  I’m already sick of them.  Besides Keith Urban.  He can stay.

  • b_james

    These poor contestants.  And poor Keith!  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Its turning ugly; AI is so stupid if they think they can control Nicki.  She is no drugged up Paula Abdul.

  • elliegrll

    I don’t blame her for having a twitter melt down.  She’s being accused of doing something horrible, and the accusation could have a serious impact on her career.  I’d be ticked off, especially if someone, who is seen by some to be a serious journalist, decided to spread the rumor to a few million viewers, without contacting her to get her side of the story, or even the producers.

    As Nicki posted, not even the producers believe that Nicki threatened Mariah.  Nigel blamed it on Mariah’s people.  

    This will just blow up in everybody’s face.  Mariah may think that she’s doing something that will result in Nicki either leaving or getting kicked off of the show, but if that happens, we can pretty much guarantee another huge drop in the ratings this year, which will reduce Mariah’s  chances of promoting her new music.

    As twitter melt downs go, this one was pretty mild.  A lot milder than the one that she had against the fans who were upset when she had to cancel some shows.  And I can’t argue with anything that she posted.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    WTF? lmao!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh oh!

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/10/mariah-carey-claims-nicki-minaj-said-shed-shoot-her-over-idol-feud/

    Oct 4, 2012 11:46am

    Mariah Carey Claims Nicki Minaj Said She’d ‘Shoot Her’ Over ‘Idol’ Feud

    “American Idol” judge Mariah Carey says multiple people heard fellow
    judge Nicki Minaj say, “If I had a gun, I would shoot the b***h” after
    launching  a curse-filled rant at Carey during an “Idol” audition, Barbara Walters said on “The View” today after interviewing Carey.

    Carey told Walters, who conducted the interview this morning before
    the show, that she “doesn’t feel comfortable emotionally” but will
    continue with the show and has hired extra security.

    Carey, 42, told Walters the altercation between the judges began when
    they disagreed on a contestant’s audition Tuesday in Charlotte, N.C.

    The judges had a meeting with producers Wednesday to discuss the
    altercation. After the meeting, Minaj told Carey, “I love you but we
    might fight again,” to which Carey responded, “No, we will not,” Walters
    said.

    Minaj’s representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    But in a tweet this afternoon, Minaj said, “Hey yAll. Lets just say
    nicki said smthn about a gun. ppl will believe it cuz she’s a black
    rapper. Lmao. I’ll then hit up Barbara n milk it.”

    “Ironically no camera or mic heard the gun comment tho. Lol @ the
    struggle. Not even the producers believed u. Say no to violence barbz,”
    she added. “Barbz” is Minaj’s nickname for her followers.

    Fellow judge Keith Urban said he tried to stay neutral on Tuesday during the altercation in Charlotte.

    “I was the UN,” the country singer told “Extra” Wednesday at the New York Film Festival premiere of “Paperboy.”

    Urban’s wife, Nicole Kidman, chimed in, calling him “Switzerland.”

    Urban, who is new to the judging table this year along with Minaj and Carey, loves working with such passionate people, he said.

    “I love it, I got to say,” he said. “I love working with passionate
    people. I love artists. Everyone just sort of expressing themselves.
    It’s a very alive and very invigorating work environment. A lot of
    passion.”

    Carey’s husband, Nick Cannon, also gave his two-cents about the
    fight, which included Minaj, 29, calling Carey, “her f**king highness.”
    Cannon believes the fighting is detracting from what the show is really
    about.

    “When you think about what the show is actually about and represents,
    I feel like it’s taking away from the quality of what ‘Idol’ is all
    about. This is about people accomplishing their dreams, experts guiding
    these young people to do what they’ve done,” Cannon told “Access Hollywood” Wednesday.

    But Cannon stood by his wife, who is heard responding to Minaj in the video although it isn’t clear.

    “My wife is the strongest and classiest woman that I’ve ever met. If
    you watch the video, she just maintains her composure.  I don’t think
    she’s moved by the theatrics and pageantry of it all. She signed up to
    do a job to help young people, this is like a sidebar. I hope that’s not
    what this show becomes, about the cat fights,” he said.

    “The show is solely about a singing competition. That’s why America
    loves these shows, they want to see people reach a certain goal or win,
    and then to make it about something it’s not, [it] kind of shows that
    the producers and the network are losing their foot a little bit.”

    Carey was unfazed by the altercation with Minaj, Cannon said.

    “She called me and we were talking about the kids. At the end of the
    day, she’s a mom and that’s my wife,” he said. “We got diapers to change
    and kids to raise.”

    VIDEO: Of Barbara talking with Mariah is at the site.

     

  • HermeticallySealed

    Jebus, is it too late to bring back JLo and Steven?  Yes this is just that annoying that I’d rather those two be back, than this nonsense.

  • fuzzywuzzy

     “This will just blow up in everybody’s face.  Mariah may think that she’s
    doing something that will result in Nicki either leaving or getting
    kicked off of the show, but if that happens, we can pretty much
    guarantee another huge drop in the ratings this year, which will reduce
    Mariah’s  chances of promoting her new music.”

    With this latest bit of the saga, I’m really starting to believe that Mariah is trying to get Nicki kicked off the show. In the video at the ABC News site, Whoopi refers to Mariah as a friend of Barbara’s. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Yep.  I know many won’t agree, but for all the complaining about Jennifer & Steven, I’d rather have them any day than watch all this nonsense unfold.  Manufactured or not.  It still sucks.  Somewhere the S11 idols are thanking their lucky stars they got through before the show completely dissolved into a shadow of its former self.

  • harvestmoon

    For me, this whole thing has gone from being weirdly funny to very sad and depressing.

  • wkstrack

    OMG. This will never end. Drama drama drama. ugh lol

  • http://twitter.com/Ricky_Rob Ricky Rob

    And Idol just turned into the Bad Girls Club……… 

  • justmefornow

    I saw The View today and was kinda surprised by Barbara Walters. She was definitely taking Mariah’s side in her tone and by constantly repeating the gun comment complete with bleeped expletives, over and over again. Not very objective journalism in my book.
    I’m not taking any sides, partly because I don’t give a damn about either one of them, and partly because I think they’re both nuts.

    But Idol asked for this and now they have it. Be careful what you ask for.

  • http://twitter.com/Lutrell4 Ira

     Vince McMahon has officially taken over American Idol! What’s that old adage, be careful what you pray for…..cause you may get your prayers answered. The producers knew exactly what they were doing  and it has never been about the contestants.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I saw The View today and was kinda surprised by Barbara Walters. She was
    definitely taking Mariah’s side in her tone and by constantly repeating
    the gun comment complete with bleeped expletives, over and over again.
    Not very objective journalism in my book.”

    I’m not surprised. I’ve never respected Barbara Walters as a real journalist. She’s fine for celebrity interviews and gossip, but she’s a real lightweight.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Pauler to the rescue? lol

  • dabney c

    Real klassy, Minaj. *eyeroll*

  • Quaribea

    Escalation. Nigel started a fire to get attention (it’s worked for him in the past) and now it’s threatening to burn down the place.  Time for Nigel to whip out the heavy-duty hoses. Knew Nigel was one of those.

  • Quaribea

    Escalation. Nigel started a fire to get attention (it’s worked for him in the past) and now it’s threatening to burn down the place.  Time for Nigel to whip out the heavy-duty hoses. Knew Nigel was one of those.

  • poipugirl

    This whole female feud is bad publicity for American Idol.  It was originally supposed to be a wholesome talent show looking for undiscovered talent in America.

    It is turning out to be like a Jerry Springer episode with low life catty bitchy women.  It’s disgusting.

    I’m enjoying The Voice so much this season anyway.

  • poipugirl

    This whole female feud is bad publicity for American Idol.  It was originally supposed to be a wholesome talent show looking for undiscovered talent in America.

    It is turning out to be like a Jerry Springer episode with low life catty bitchy women.  It’s disgusting.

    I’m enjoying The Voice so much this season anyway.

  • dabney c

    erm, expecting “The View” to be objective journalism is really stretching the definition of journalism.

  • dabney c

    erm, expecting “The View” to be objective journalism is really stretching the definition of journalism.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I remember in June when everyone was happy that J-Lo and Steve quitted (and likely Randy would do that too), I was very skeptical with the sudden changes and asking if nobody had a feeling that the judging panel could get worse, much worse. Here’s the answer.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I remember in June when everyone was happy that J-Lo and Steve quitted (and likely Randy would do that too), I was very skeptical with the sudden changes and asking if nobody had a feeling that the judging panel could get worse, much worse. Here’s the answer.

  • justmefornow

    She’s even slipping more in her old age. It’s was pretty blatant, IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    I’ll just say this….whether this is real or staged – I don’t like what’s going on.

  • http://twitter.com/Girltalkbf AlesheaDominique

    Let’s be honest: They knew what they were gettin’ themselves into when they hired Nicki. That being said I wouldn’t take to kindly to someone lyin’ on me and sayin’ I tried to shoot them. In the real world we all know that wouldn’t fly. While we all may have handeled the situation different I don’t blame Nicki one bit.

    But y’all know Miriah ain’t always roses either. She got a pretty crazy track record and I wouldn’t put it past her to lie. This is not the mid 90′s early 00′s and she needs to realize that people without dive voices are what’s in and she is not.

  • GinaBallerina

    Those tweets are disturbing.  Nicki seems mentally unstable – and I don’t mean that as an insult.  I just don’t think someone healthy would act so hysterical.

  • justmefornow

    Those other ones, I agree. But Barbara Walters I guess I just expected better.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     I agree.  Mariah is on the verge of becoming slanderous towards Nicki.

  • elliegrll

    So, Mariah using Barbara Walters as her spokesperson is classier?  That’s a move that implies that she didn’t want the situation to be over, even though yesterday, it looked like the situation was resolved.  

  • kcostell

    Idol’s threatening to go the way of The Voice.  I feel bad for this year’s contestants.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=195101108 Stefan Wind

    I’m really hoping this wasn’t all staged and Nikki was never going to be a full-time judge on Idol. I’m hoping she doesn’t “quit or get fired over this”. She’s the most exciting thing that has appeared on this show in a long time. Mariah has an amazing resume, but her personality leaves a lot to be desired IMO. I wouldn’t mind if she was to “quit” though. lol

    BTW my quotes mean that I believe this whole thing is staged. There is no way that one person getting paid 18 million and another getting 8-12 million can’t act professional during work hours. Just my two cents.

  • Whatiswrongwithus

    Oh Gawd… The X factor panel sure is looking way classier and more fun than this bunch. And those 2 girls on X are way young too. Suddenly X factor even though with it’s low talent pool line up is looking more wholesome to watch.
    Heck, I may even watch The voice when Jan comes next year when I’m not even a fan, I’m an idol watcher ;(

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yeah, Mariah is keeping this going for sure.

  • bscfan

    I feel like Nicki Minaj has fallen into a trap set by someone savvier than her, and she’s flailing around sinking deeper. Mariah Carey’s going on The View after the producers have supposedly been trying to calm the storm says it all. Mariah’s not interested in calming the storm, although Nicki might be.  Mariah wants Nicki off the show and she may get her way. Personally I wish it were Mariah who was going.

  • usedtobelucy

    ” There is no way that one person getting paid 18 million and another
    getting 8-12 million can’t act professional during work hours. Just my
    two cents.”

    I don’t know. I’m beginning to think that getting a really high salary may make a lot of people think that they have a special right to bad behavior — because of their overall awesomeness and superiority to the little people or something.

    Just sayin.

  • http://twitter.com/cruzceleste Celeste

    What a disaster, I wouldn´t like to watch a show like this, and it takes the focus how much out of the contestants… Idol is crying for atention and this is not the right way to do it…

  • fantoo1

    To be fair, we haven’t seen what their judging style is yet.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     Nicki may be taking Mariah’s bait but if Mariah thinks she’s looking good through this, she’s dead wrong.  She’s looking petty, insecure and manipulative.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s starting to look that way. I’m sure that Randy and Mariah know that if Nicki walks/is fired, the auditions/show can still continue just fine without her.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    In some ways, I think worse of Mariah than Nicki.

  • dabney c

    I dunno. Mariah might be fueling the fire, but it’s Nicki’s big, foul, trashy mouth that is the huge turnoff for me. I didn’t mind Idol choosing Nicki at first because I like her music and unique vibe. But I (wrongly) thought she could keep some decorum while on the show. Ugh.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DY5236XYY2SBL7EJNTK5ROIGMA Madred

    The girls are doing their job, we’re talking about Idol in October and people will be tuning in when the first episode airs early 2013. They are looking for a major opening and the possibility of seeing a feud will entice a majority of people. 

    Nicki will be gone before the live shows and that has always how it was intended to be. Just watch. There is no way that anyone who knows her personality would ever think having her on live TV would be a good idea. 

  • dabney c

    ME NO LIKEY. It’s going to ruin the show. FIRE EVERYONE AND START FROM SCRATCH NIGEL.

    Totally agree, MJ. This is the worst thing ever. Like trashy aliens have abducted my show! :’(

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

     Nicki may be taking Mariah’s bait but if Mariah thinks she’s looking good through this, she’s dead wrong.  She’s looking petty, insecure and manipulative.

    I’m starting to suspect that Mariah Carey believed she was joining the judging panel as the Hot Relevant Pop Star, and she’s not dealing well with the discovery that her role is actually Diva Emerita.

    Ironically, up to today, I’d taken the position that her discography contains enough recent-ish hits (ish) that she’s done a good job of keeping herself relevant (ish) in a much-changed music market. Had she resisted the temptation to start drama (or to ride Nigel Lythgoe’s Drama Llama), it wouldn’t have occurred to me to question whether Carey can, in fact, stay relevant. So I think she’s drawn attention to the very thing she’d like to distract from.

  • elliegrll

    And you know Nicki’s personality?  When did you meet her?  

    I think the main problem with your scenario is that Nicki not being around for the live shows can hurt the ratings, especially if the buzz and promotion about the auditions centers around her presence, and her relationship with Mariah Carey.

  • fantoo1

    ME NO LIKEY. It’s going to ruin the show. FIRE EVERYONE AND START FROM SCRATCH NIGEL

    Keep Keith, he didn’t do anything wrong.

  • thirdtime

    I agree that Nicki is coming off not only immature and low class, but mentally unstable as well.  People put up with bullshit from co-workers and other people every day, but it’s just not normal to act this way.  She’s either mentally unstable or she thinks very, very, very highly of herself.  Either way it’s a huge turn off to have her as an Idol judge.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Interestingly (but not surprisingly), many of the media reports that have picked up this latest extension of the story have the fact that Mariah has hired extra security in the headlines. Mariah is acting like a pro in how this is all progressing, and unfortunately, Nicki is helping her. ;)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DY5236XYY2SBL7EJNTK5ROIGMA Madred

    Well, I have met her several times. Thanks for asking. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t think that Nicki is mentally unstable at all. Her public persona is loud, controversial, outspoken, OTT and volatile, but I doubt very much that she’s even close to being mentally unstable. lol

  • ANNIEBA

    Well this is a new low AI. It’s creating some press which is what they want I suppose but the situation just comes across as stupid, wow.

  • usedtobelucy

    They’re like a couple of eight-year-olds. The sly, underhanded but oh-so-angelic-seeming bitch who repeatedly pinches the other one under the table while keeping a big smile on her face and the hotheaded loony one with no self control or good sense who picks up the doorstop and clonks the pincher in the head with it. Repeatedly.

    …and both the eight-year-olds always think they’re justified. This just enrages me coming from adults.

    And why does it have to be women doing this crap? While the men (though I use the term loosely) push the story on TMZ? Gross.

    Must say on the conspiracy theory front that I don’t see why anyone would want Nicki off the show (except for Snow-White’s-stepmother Mariah, of course, who wants to believe she’s still the most current of them all). …. Don’t they have Nicki for, you know, ratings and demos and proving-we’re-actually-relevant purposes? Don’t see how ejecting her via a pre-season catfight helps with that.

     

  • standtotheright

    People put up with bullshit from co-workers and other people every day,

    I once had a raging bitch of an office mate who, despite being extremely competent at her job, was so unpleasant that most people were glad to see her leave. I got the brunt of her ire while we shared an office. So I know about putting up with bullshit from co-workers.

    But that co-worker never went over my head (to say nothing of the national media) to accuse me of threatening her after we’d had an argument.

    I think she needed to do a level press release, not tweet about it, but being upset at being accused of violent threats is not in and of itself irrational or paranoid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    I don’t think they are milking this, I think it’s real.  This is too bad.  The show never ever started out like this.  The show would get contentious midway through between the judges, but not from the start.  Too big egos. That’s why you don’t put TWO women on the judges panel.

  • elliegrll

    What’s unstable about being upset that someone is accusing you of doing something that you didn’t do?  The huge difference is that Mariah is coming off as being calmer, even though she’s manipulating the situation.  

    Nobody should just have to deal with a co-worker who has an agenda to get them fired, but this situation is magnified because of what has been said, and because the media is being used.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    I agree with No Thanks.  AI never had this type of confrontation.  The judges disagreed and walked off the set, but they never threatened each other and got in each other’s face. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    To be fair, we haven’t seen what their judging style is yet.

    and maybe we’ll never see. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    Mariah is also using Roger Friedman as a spokesman….she knows a lot of important people.

  • standtotheright

    That’s why you don’t put TWO women on the judges panel.

    As someone else said, this is the worst part about this whole thing; it’s not true and yet the producers are giving a narrative to the people who want to believe it.

  • thirdtime

    The unstable part is the way she is handling it, not her being upset about it.  I saw the video of her yelling and swearing – whether she actually threatened or not is up in the air – but the way she was reacting that day isn’t a way that anyone else can act with other people they are working with, so why is it okay for her? 

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    I agree with sad and depressing, but I still find this weirdly funny. #Twitterisyourfriend

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “That’s why you don’t put TWO women on the judges panel.”

    No, it’s the personalities of the two people involved that’s the problem, not their gender.

  • elliegrll

    You don’t know what came before, or how the producers are handling the situation.  We know that she initially walked away from the table, and for the most part, she isn’t yelling at Mariah, she’s yelling at the producers.  I think that my reaction would be the same, if the situation is that Mariah is continuously baiting her.  

    Why should she have to just take that?  What are her options if the producers won’t step in and handle the problem?  She could quit, but if you were in this situation, would you quit?  Especially if that’s what your co-worker wants you to do?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DY5236XYY2SBL7EJNTK5ROIGMA Madred

    Now Da Brat is coming to Mariah’s defense and Nicki is giving it back to her and pimping Pepsi. Sounds like more is coming out soon. #Drama ETA: Da Brat removed her tweets, but Nicki’s is still there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    From People magazine:

    “Nicki Minaj: Is She American Idol Material After Feuding with Mariah Carey?”

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20636076,00.html

    This isn’t the first article to question if Nicki is appropriate for Idol.

    ETA: Most of the other media are playing up the allegation that Nicki threatened to “shoot/kill” Mariah.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Nicki was yelling at Mariah. Her rant was caught on camera. This rant is just one of the reasons why she is coming off as unstable. Nicki’s latest twitter rant and referring to herself in third person isn’t helping matters either.

    From TMZ:
    Listen closely as you play the video… you’ll hear:
    Nicki: Think I’m playin? Think this sh*t is a f*cking joke? Think it’s a joke? Think it’s a joke? Think it’s a joke? Say one more disrespectful thing to me, if you say one more disrespectful thing to me — off with your head!
    Mariah: I am not being disrespectful.
    Nicki: Off with your head, off with your head.
    Nicki: Don’t tell me I’m insecure, don’t tell me I’m inadequate … you gonna get sent [inaudible] just fall back; don’t … you don’t know [inaudible] I don’t feel inadequate. You’re the insecure one sittin’ up there running down her resume every five minutes.
    Nicki: Every time you take a shot at me I’ma take it back, and if you gotta f*cking problem then handle it. I told them, I’m not f*cking putting up with your f*cking highness over there… figure it the f*ck out. Figure it out.
    Mariah: whyyyy, whhyyyyy …
    Nicki: Figure it out
    Mariah: … do I have a 3-year-old sitting around me???
    Nicki: I’m not sitting here for 20 minutes and having you run down your resume everyday, No! Goodbye!
    Mariah: Listen … I can’t see my kids because you decided to make … to have … to have a little baby fit and going all around the stage.
    Nicki: Good, well then go see them now, go see them now … you’re boring as f*ck, you’re boring as f*ck.

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Nicki minaj tryna ruin my favorite show. I am so mad right now. Yep, staged or real. whatevs. 

  • fantoo1

    Yeah I saw her tweet pimping pepsi, maybe it’s to get back at idol(whose sponsor is Coke).

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Not watching, not reading, Just came to say Idol has lost another viewer if this is the direction they’re going. Such a shame since it’s been by far the most viable place for new singers to find an audience.

    And no, I don’t watch any of the other new singing shows. Idol was the best by far, in my opinion. Even many of the non-winners have had decent careers.

    Hate to see them going for the lowest common denominator.

  • ptebwwong

    At this point, I think Idol’s name & the potential viewers for the upcoming season will take a hit from this mess. IMO the only thing that can help is to fire Nicki & have the 3 judge panel. But I don’t know if that would work either.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    At this rate, I’m so fed up that I don’t even want to tune in next year.  And if Nicki quits or is fired, that makes me even LESS likely to watch.  Because I’ll just be too disgusted looking at Mariah’s smug, egotistical face every week while Randy kisses her a$$.  I’ll take a crazy bitch over a lying, scheming one every time.

  • dabney c

    So, what’s your justification for Nicki going off on Mariah because she’s “running down her resume every five minutes”?  Can you imagine if Steven Tyler pitched a fit every time Randy Jackson name-dropped? Is Nicki’s reaction to perceived “disrespect” a normal one? Is this how people should behave at every little thing they happen to dislike about someone else? Is that how you behave out in the world? 

    Clearly, Nicki Minaj has no impulse control, and if her flying off the handle is what we should expect all season, then this is going to be worse than season 9.

  • http://twitter.com/cruzceleste Celeste

    In all fairness neither did Randy… I don´t like Nicki Minaj, and I don´t know what she is doing in a show like Idol… I mean didn´t this will take out of her reputation as a rapper… I certanly don´t see Eminem doing Idol…

  • http://twitter.com/cruzceleste Celeste

    Well acording to Wikipedia she is worth $500 million dollars, I get that get you lots of important people and friends…

  • fantoo1

    IMO the only thing that can help is to fire Nicki & have the 3 judge panel. But I don’t know if that would work either.

    I actually think it would work, there would be peace on the table and those who were turned off by Nicki will come back.

    Oddly enough, I have seen some chatter on twitter with people saying “I just might have to watch American Idol now!” due to the feud.

  • zzatrms

    Where is Randy in all this mess?  He has been on the show from Day 1  …. does he want to see the show involved in a mess like this?  I know he is MsCarey’s mgr, but was hoping someone had common sense.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     I suspect Mariah is the reason he wasn’t kicked to the curb this season.  She probably insisted Randy stay if Nicki came on.

  • elliegrll

    The people who are turned off by Nicki haven’t left yet.  I’m pretty sure that these are some of the same people who continuously post that they won’t watch again, because their favorite contestant didn’t win. These are the same people who claim that Nicki isn’t a mainstream artist, despite the fact that she’s had hit songs on Pop radio.  

    More importantly, why fire Nicki, if she hasn’t done anything wrong?  Why make Mariah feel that she has that much power, especially when Mariah probably can’t do anything to help the ratings?

     Oddly enough, I have seen some chatter on twitter with people saying “I just might have to watch American Idol now!” due to the feud.

    Of course.  

  • elliegrll

    Nicki is a rapper and a singer, with great mainstream appeal, which is why AI hired her.  Out of all of the judges/mentors on shows, she’s also pretty much the first person who has been hired while she is at the peak of her career.  She doesn’t need AI, but AI needs her in order to create the image that the show is still relevant, and to show that they can appeal to a younger audience.   

    fantoo1 said: Yeah I saw her tweet pimping pepsi, maybe it’s to get back at idol(whose sponsor is Coke).

    Considering that Nicki is appearing in commercials for Pepsi that are being aired all around the world, why would American Idol or Fox get mad about a tweet? They know that she has a very expensive endorsement deal with Pepsi, and both soft drink makers were fine with AI hiring Nicki.

  • vdawg

    They just need to admit they made a mistake and go back to three judges, I have no interest in watching this type of garbage each week and if they do not fix it now they will lose viewers.

  • ptebwwong

    I agree those that were turned off by Nicki might come back if there’s a 3 person panel. What I’m concerned about is Randy & Mariah both on the panel possibly name dropping all the time & always agreeing with each other.

    Also, I’m concerned this will be an uninteresting and boring panel to viewers & the general public & the ratings will suffer. There were people that had concerns that Mariah & Keith might be boring. We know what Randy will bring.

  • dabney c

    She doesn’t need AI

    Then by all means, she should resume her superstar life sans the burden of AI.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    I don’t think 4 judges is the problem.  And I don’t think 2 women are the problem.  The problem is we’ve got 1 insecure, manipulative diva and 1 hot head clashing and a completely inept production team who can’t or won’t keep the situation under control.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P46N6P5XPK22JVXDJJEENXGLVE marie

    I hope AI and the two ladies stop this foolishness before someone gets hurt. We have too many unstable people out there for them to play these childish games for ratings. It may be stage, fans of theirs may not think it is. I was listening to the radio this morning where some DJ said something about a Mariah fan who said something about they would go to jail for her.

  • blackberryharvest

    It looks like they just can’t win, lol. Keep Nicki, but then its a no class trainwreck that will turn people off, but get rid of Nicki and the panel is “boring.”

  • elliegrll

    No viewers have left because of Nicki, yet.  People have said that the would, but people have said the same thing after their favorite contestant didn’t win, yet they still stick around.

    Besides, why fire Nicki if she didn’t do anything wrong, or to appease those who don’t want to see a black female rapper on the panel?  One of the reasons why the demo rating for this show has been hurting is because they have been pandering to a certain segment of the audience.  I could see justifying this pandering, if this audience was the one that advertisers wanted to reach, but it’s not.  

    Also, why make Mariah think that she has that much power.  If the producers let her have her way in this situation then there’s no telling what she would demand.  And again, the issue would be that she wouldn’t be bringing in an audience that would justify AI letting her have the same type of control that Simon seemed to have.  

    Besides that, a panel with Mariah, Keith and Randy would look very boring, and a lot like the panel of the last two seasons.  Keith would be low key, and Randy would agree with whatever Mariah says.

  • elliegrll

    So, we are going to ignore the fact that the tape doesn’t show us how the argument started, and that Nicki accused Mariah of calling her some names? 

  • SullyD

    Just fire one of them. I don’t even care which one.

  • too-cool-for-school

    It goes back to the fact that Nicki should just not have been hired. Maybe the jokes are true of Mariah… she thinks she is the queen and never wanted to work with another woman that may steal her spotlight. Immature, yes.

    But she is still more fit and established to judge vocal talent and less of a joke to me than Nicki. She should just quit and let Mariah and the guys have this one. Her fans will have her back and she can play the victim card and get lots of publicity.

    Because they will never make up and no good will come of all of this fighting. There will be no peace until one leaves and Nicki is the more likely one.

    Either way, I’m not even remotely interested in this season if this is what it has come to.

  • elliegrll

    She hasn’t stopped her “superstar” life, but my question again is why should she quit?  What exactly has she done that would mean that she should be the one to give up her position.

    If Mariah is upset about AI hiring Nicki, she should be the one to leave, instead of trying to manipulate the press to force Nicki out.  

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    They just need to admit they made a mistake and go back to three judges

    Removing Mariah Carey and going with Minaj-Urban-Jackson would work fine for me at this point. A star who’ll needle her peers is a star who’ll probably also needle competitors, who are much more vulnerable. I don’t need to see Carey subtly attempt to whittle female musicians’ egos down to zero — Lythgoe already contributes enough of that through how the show is edited.

    (ETA: And no, I don’t think Minaj will randomly blow up at people. The tape implies she’s reacting to a series of jabs and taunts, which competitors have no means of throwing at her.)

    Unfortunately, Carey’s played right into the “cat fight” and “too insecure to cope with other attractive, successful women” stereotypes. I’d hoped somebody with her stellar track record would be beyond it — and we’ve seen mentors like Stevie Nicks who are clearly beyond and above that b.s., so it’s not about being a woman.

    I’m very disappointed in Mariah Carey, whether she’s working out her real feelings or whether she hopped on the Drama Llama for publicity.

  • ptebwwong

    I agree. I watch because of the contestants. I watched last season & didn’t pay attention to the judges comments.  I’ve watched every episode & not going to stop until it ends.

    The problem is both Nicki & Mariah on the panel is turning into a circus. It’s obvious the contestants are going to be less cared about than these two & their drama. It might even get worse during the live shows. 

  • irockhard

    This so much! Sorry but if one must go it should be Mariah not Nicki. Mariah appears to be very insecure about her age and relevancy and I’d hate to think how this will translate to how she’ll treat the female contestants.

  • teacup

    Looks like hiring Nicki was a mistake. 

  • ptebwwong

    I agree no one’s left because of Nicki yet. We won’t know until the premiere what happens to the ratings. 

    The problem is that Nicki was brought in partially to give Idol a boost in demo. But at what cost? It’s possible she loses many of Idol’s longtime fans because she’s on the panel or people are tired of this drama. Even if she didn’t start this mess & Mariah did, Idol’s reputation & the bad publicity is harming the show due to this mess. IMO the general public see Nicki as the bad person in this & not Mariah.

    I agree that Mariah shouldn’t have that much power. However, right now what’s hurting this show is the conflict between Nicki & Mariah. If the producers don’t step in or they somehow work it out, it could get much worse. 

    At some point if the conflict gets worse, somebody has to be let go for the good of the show. The problem is if you let Mariah go IMO Randy will go with her. Then Idol needs a new judge since only Nicki & Keith will be staying. If you let Nicki go, then it will be a 3 person panel that’s been labeled boring which would probably not bring in any new viewers. I’m not sure Idol can win in this situation & that’s my point.

  • SullyD

    I think spending 20m to hire Mariah was the biggest mistake, lol. It will cost a fortune if they want to get rid of her.

  • standtotheright

    The problem is if you let Mariah go IMO Randy will go with her.

    He didn’t leave when it was being shouted from the rafters that he was being demoted for a fresher judging panel, so why would he leave just because his client decided to go? Jackson is motivated by a paycheck.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Apparently, Mariah disagreed with Nicki over a contestant.  It is not just Mariah that is insecure.  Sorry folks, but when a person wishes they had a gun, I don’t want to see that person on my TV set.  I also don’t like the comments about Mariah’s children.  This is NOT good for Idol.

    I am late with my comments, but I would love to have my quiet, sexy Latino judge sitting on that panel than the Rapper girl.  This is getting a bit out of hand.

  • thirdtime

    I seriously wish both Mariah and Nicki would go at this point.  Please, please…fire them both.

  • Xentusk

    After the whole Season 1 (Melanie pushing) Debacle of Xfactor I swore I would not watch that train wreck again….

    Somehow, this whole clu$terfnck has me thinking XFactor 2 might not be so bad after all (Demi and Britney are way more entertaining and watchable than Paula or Nicole).

    For the life of me I’ve never seen what about Nicki makes her so famous and popular (other than her combustible/controversial personality), and I was never into Diva’s such as Mariah, Celine or Whitney (although I respect their talents)… so I wasn’t inclined to be too interested  in S13 of Idol anyway…..

    This makes me certain, I have no interest in watching this playout, live :P

  • blackberryharvest

     

    It’s possible she loses many of Idol’s longtime fans because she’s on the panel or people are tired of this drama.

    If I had a dollar for every time people claimed they weren’t watching again, then I would be a billionaire.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VCEZD3N6FHT6AVC6TG7VKTBONQ Raftrap

    I have to insist, exchange any of the two girls for Cheryl Cole, come on Nigel, make the right choice, stop the insanity.

  • teacup

     Mariah brings more to the table than Nicki, imo.

  • elliegrll

    I don’t see how Nicki, a singer, rapper, and writer, is less skilled to judge than Jennifer Lopez, Paula Abdul, or even someone like Simon Cowell, whose main accomplishments coming into AI was developing the careers of a few novelty acts. 

    Nicki is arguably a better singer than Jennifer or Paula, and based on her recent success, she know what works, and what people want to hear.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Except that we don’t really know that Nikki said anything about a gun.  We only have Mariah’s word for that, and she’s hardly a stellar personality herself.  The problem lays on both of their shoulders, not just one.  The producers need to get off their asses and reign both in, and soon.

  • dabney c

    What exactly has she done that would mean that she should be the one to give up her position.

    I didn’t say she should quit … just that I’d be happy if she did. I don’t think she’s such a special snowflake that she gets to handle a challenging situation like that and get a pass.  No, I don’t give little kids throwing tantrums a pass, either. Why should I make an exception for her 30 year old arse?

  • ptebwwong

    Obviously, Idol doesn’t want the same ratings as last year. They brought in a superstar panel to help the ratings. This bad publicity could be harming it’s potential ratings for the new season which they wanted to fix.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Besides that, a panel with Mariah, Keith and Randy would look very
    boring, and a lot like the panel of the last two seasons.  Keith would
    be low key, and Randy would agree with whatever Mariah says.”

    I agree. Bad mistake to have Randy there with Mariah.

  • elliegrll

    So far, we don’t know if the show will be harmed.  As you posted there are people who said that they will watch because of this, and those who have said that they won’t.

    Since the mainstream media is picking up on what Barbara Walters said on The View, right now it’s Nicki’s reputation that is taking a hit.  And since she’s using twitter to vent, that won’t help the situation.

    Instead of jumping to the conclusion that Nicki presence, whether she’s a good judge or not, will alienate viewers, I think the immediate worry is that a feud could interfere with the tone of the show, or keep the judges from doing their jobs.

    Total viewers is about bragging rights, and doesn’t put any money in anyone’s pockets, so if the show loses some older viewers, but gains some younger ones, even if the ratio isn’t 1 to 1, AI still comes out ahead.

    Karianne Hart: Apparently, Mariah disagreed with Nicki over a contestant.  It is not just Mariah that is insecure.  Sorry folks, but when a person wishes they had a gun, I don’t want to see that person on my TV set.  I also don’t like the comments about Mariah’s children.  This is NOT good for Idol.

    And the only people who heard her say this are people who work for Mariah. And this information was enough to lead the producers to believe that it wasn’t true.

    Meanwhile, Mariah’s tweet after Nicki was hired made it clear that she wasn’t crazy about the show hiring Nicki.  And going to Barbara Walters shows that she’s not interested in moving on.

  • koshka

    “Since the mainstream media is picking up on what Barbara Walters said on The View, right now it’s Nicki’s reputation that is taking a hit. ”

    I don’t understand how folks think that this will hurt Nikki’s reputation. She isn’t mainstream in that sense. She is already polarizing. I think people already love her or hate her. 

  • Esqt

    I am so enjoying the turn of events. I can’t wait for the next update. 

  • Warren20

    How is AI stupid for this?  Are you kidding?  This is the most buzz they’ve had in years.  

  • Jacko86

    Fire Mimi and Nicki, bring back J-Lo!!

  • WestiesRule

    They knew this would happen with those 2. Nigel thinks he’s getting ratings and he is doing is losing fans of the show. 2 words: B**l S**t! I nevr missed an episode but I truly might boycott because I can’ stand this stuff (and I am no fan of mimi).

  • too-cool-for-school

    Just my opinion. I don’t respect her work or see her as being talented, though I can throw her a bone for her success like anyone else that has made it big, but I’m never going to be convinced or made to believe that she is amazing and so worthy of my unabashed love and respect.

    Just not gonna happen. My mind is made up. ;D

  • standtotheright

    No, I don’t give little kids throwing tantrums a pass, either. Why should I make an exception for her 30 year old arse?

    The logical counter to that is that I don’t give little kids bullying others and then lying about things their classmates did a pass, and I won’t make an exception for a 42-year-old arse, either.

    If it’s true that Carey called Minaj some names, then they could both reasonably be on the hook for FCC fines if anything were ever aired. If I were a producer, I’d point that fact out. Repeatedly.

  • elliegrll

    I think that her endorsement deals and Pop airplay are putting her in a situation where she is becoming more mainstream.  This has been an issue for some djs and program directors at urban stations.  They feel that the music that she’s making is better suited for pop radio.  

    She’s currently trying to build a brand, and expand her audience, so I don’t think that she wants the media spreading a story that she said that she was going to kill Mariah, or that it’s serious enough to cause Mariah to be afraid for her life.  That goes beyond anything that Nicki is known for.

  • dabney c

    So, we are going to ignore the fact that the tape doesn’t show us how
    the argument started, and that Nicki accused Mariah of calling her some
    names?

    That is so not the point. I don’t care who started the fight, or who triggered the verbal lashing-out. It’s the fact that this is how Nicki responds to conflict – that’s my problem. Imo, it is f*cking insane to accept her crazy diatribe as a normal reaction to whatever actual or perceived slight, insult or “disrespect” she was dealing with. (I alway put “disrespect” in quotes because accusing people of “disrespecting” is generally the domain of those who command so little of it.)

  • SullyD

    This last tweet Nicki posted about complementing Mariah is absolutely true. Before all this crap, Nicki have always said nice things about Mariah, while there were a lot of reports about how Mariah was pissed about sharing the table with another woman.
    This is the main reason why I’m skeptical about Mariah’s role as the “victim”. They don’t call her a diva for nothing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nicki’s Barbz are all tweeting their support to her (and she’s RTing a lot of those comments), and I’m sure that the Lambs are doing the same for Mariah. If the fan wars continue, that could boost AI ratings.

  • abbysee

    Fire her and Mariah. Especially Nicki who could be right about Mariah, but her rant shows her instability!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5CTSGSGATMXQESVDDD7RWQRYXU Jane

    To the producers of American Idol: 
    Thanks a lot for ruining my favorite show.

    To the contestants of this year’s AI season: 
    I’m sorry.  Sincere sympathies, but you really picked the wrong season to try out. 

    To my fellow AI fans:
    This really stinks, doesn’t it?

  • dabney c

    Fine, get rid of both their arses. I’m not married to Mariah being on the panel. But nothing changes for me. If Mariah called Nicki names, then she’s an immature diva.  And Nicki’s reactions are still so very, very inappropriately OTT unacceptable. Nicki Minaj’s reaction to Mariah should not be “understandable” in any way, imo.

  • Chris

    Just a flipping circus. Call J Lo or Paula please.

  • mileyfan123

     I think actually this is going to cause ratings to go up. Idol hasn’t had legitimate controversies in years. It used to be the bread and butter of the show. I don’t really remember this magical time when the judges were always concentrated on the singing talent, and there were no outside distractions. Do I think the majority of us online would like that? Yes, but I think the majority of casual viewers actually like some controversy, some chaos. Makes the show seem less like the Branson Review or something.

  • http://twitter.com/J_SanchezFans J SanchezFan Kaylo™

    Simon Cowell would kill for this kind of publicity. I’m willing to place a bet right now :Season 12 Idol premiere will go in to the Top 3 highest rated premieres in Idol history.

  • abbysee

    What if Nicki did threaten Mariah? Then does being relevant and buzzeworthy trump old, washed up, irrelevant Mariah. Even if Mariah did everything Nicki accuses her of, is this now acceptable behavior for a professional?

  • shell29

    IMO it seems pretty obvious that Mariah is trying to get Nicki fired but Nicki isn’t helping matters.  At this point I don’t think these two can co-exist at the judges’ table.  Nicki’s hiring got had me interested in tuning into Idol next season (and I’m not even a fan of hers-far from it) but I’m afraid in the battle Nicki vs. Mariah “Team Mimi” will prevail.  The accusations Mariah is making towards Nicki may be untrue but Nicki is unfortunately coming across to a lot of people as immature and unstable.  I’ll be shocked if Nicki remains as an Idol judge at this point.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    What if Nicki did threaten Mariah?

    Well, since even the producers apparently didn’t believe Carey’s claims that Minaj made direct threats — and they were there, and they have the full tape — what you’ve got there is an irrelevant hypothetical.

    Were I ever to threaten a coworker’s life, my boss would be justified in firing me. However, since I haven’t, we don’t spend a lot of time at work discussing why I’d be a raving b*tch if I had done it. (Thank goodness — talk about hostile work environment!)

  • abbysee

    Not in the least. Even her repeated off with her head is threatening enough Imho. If idol was caught flat -footed with her meltdown the other day do you really think they would be rushing to release said video?

  • fantoo1

    You have a point, this IS creating buzz, even if it’s negative.

    This could either be a genius move or the biggest mistake they ever made.

  • jjrr1942

    Never understood why AI even considered Minaj in the first place given AI’s implied “middle of the country” fan base.  I can just see any of those watchers saying to their children, “yes, yes, let’s watch AI and see what you can do to emulate Minaj to reach her level of “celebrity”!!! 

    If I had a talented child, I certainly wouldn’t be supporting any decision to try out for a contest where she was a judge.  What is there in her career that qualifies her as a judge on a “singing” contest – her greatest claim to fame is her weirdness, her attempt to copy GaGa, and her big a$$ – and oh yeah she raps (and the discription of what word equates rap to singing).

  • TheGreatXL

    I’m all for drama, but this is pathetic. Sorry.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    If idol was caught flat -footed with her meltdown the other day do you really think they would be rushing to release said video?

    Well, I guess the pause of 20 minutes or so between the start of the “meltdown” rumor and when the partial video appeared on TMZ does indicate Idol wasn’t really in a hurry to release video. Had Lythgoe been less shaken, he probably would have gotten the video out there in conjunction with the rumor, and he wouldn’t have needed to go back another 20 minutes later to give TMZ a longer version.

    He was there. No matter how shaken he was — or how distracted by needing to get the latest dirt to his pals at TMZ — I’d think an actual threat to shoot somebody would be hard to forget. And he and the other producers have the full tape, by virtue of being the producers. So if they say the gun threat never happened, presumably they’ve calmed down enough by now to know.

    I’m still willing to believe this is one of Lythgoe’s staged publicity stunts. But in that case, there’s no reason to punish Minaj more than Carey for playing along with it. (And I would then want to smack both of them for going down this anti-feminist avenue for the sake of ratings.)

  • elliegrll

    What if Nicki did threaten Mariah? Then does being relevant and buzzeworthy trump old, washed up, irrelevant Mariah. Even if Mariah did everything Nicki accuses her of, is this now acceptable behavior for a professional?

    Nope, being relevant wouldn’t trump a legitimate threat.  And since Fox wants to please their sponsors, as well as appeal to a diverse audience, I don’t see them ignoring a threat on someone’s life.  At that point, it wouldn’t just be up to Nigel Lythgoe, the network would step into the situation.  

    I think that they all discussed what happened, and thought that the issue was over.  The fact that the producers didn’t believe that Nicki threatened Mariah, indicates to me that there’s more to the story, and that the producers and the network know the truth about both sides.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I’m still willing to believe this is one of Lythgoe’s staged publicity
    stunts. But in that case, there’s no reason to punish Minaj more than
    Carey for playing along with it. (And I would then want to smack both of them for going down this anti-feminist avenue for the sake of ratings.)”

    I agree. I wouldn’t put it past Nigel to pull something like this and shame on Mariah and Nicki if they went along with it.

    elliegirl wrote:

    “The fact that the producers didn’t believe that Nicki threatened Mariah, indicates to me that there’s more to the story, and that the producers and the network know the truth about both sides.”

    Yep. We don’t know what really happened here.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” I can just see any of those watchers saying to their children, “yes,
    yes, let’s watch AI and see what you can do to emulate Minaj to reach
    her level of “celebrity”!!! ”

    Any parent who tells their child to “emulate” a celebrity on television is incompetent and an idiot. And Idol isn’t a singing competition any more.

  • Chris

    Nicki made several comments that could be considered threats. Off with her head, etc… In a workplace, that can get you fired. Period. All of the excuses like “she started it,” do not hold. Go try it at any major corporation, HR will have a box packed and security quickly.

  • http://twitter.com/TylerWV TylerWV

    Im not a fan of either female judge but I have to think Mariah is pushing Nicki’s buttons to get her off the show.  She wanted Lenny Kravitz.  I don’t think she wants two female judges, period.  Whether this situation is producer sanctioned I don’t know but gotta think it is.  Why else let it get so out of hand and a video provided?  If Mariah is wasting everyones time name dropping and resume preening I would be kinda aggravated too.  I wish Keith would stand up and tell them all to act professional or shut the hell up.  Don’t think old Nigel has the guts to do it.  He is such a media ho. 

  • elliegrll

    Never understood why AI even considered Minaj in the first place given AI’s implied “middle of the country” fan base.  I can just see any of those watchers saying to their children, “yes, yes, let’s watch AI and see what you can do to emulate Minaj to reach her level of “celebrity”!!!

    Brittany Kerr’s entire audition consisted of the cameraman filming her butt for her entire performance.  Was their an uproar about that?  How was it, or a lot of what Steven Tyler did, family friendly?  

     

    her greatest claim to fame is her weirdness,

    I think that her greatest claim to fame is having multiple hit songs, a Platinum record, and multi platinum selling singles.  She can also hang her hat on being the first solo female artist to have seven songs in the Hot 100 at the same time. It wasn’t just being weird that resulted in these achievements.  

  • Chris

    Mariah isn’t stupid enough to go to Barbara Walters without some support or at least a witness. Especially after Nigel poo poo’d it.

    I see this as Mariah wanting it documented and on record so anything goes down, she has this to back her up.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree, it really stinks.

  • Keyera Mullins

    Sounds like American Idol will just continue to go down hill. How ridiculous. I think they better consider some new judges before the new season starts. Just hearing all this drama makes me not even want to watch this show anymore.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” How was it, or a lot of what Steven Tyler did, family friendly?  ”

    I thought that Steven’s lechery was creepy. It made me cringe.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Nicki Minaj’s reaction to Mariah should not be “understandable” in any way, imo.

    It seems the stage hands “might” have been witness to the wishing she had a gun.  It doesn’t appear on the tape and I wonder if the camera followed her after she left?

    So did anyone see Nigel use the “time-out” sign?  You know, the T-SIGN I make with my hands when my littlest Granddaughter starts having a bit of a tantrum? I just noticed it with the second viewing.  He seems really concerned or he’s a great actor.  Oh, please make this all go away!

  • jobeob987

    What a mess!  I have absolutely no desire to watch Idol this season.

  • clearone

    Maybe so but they’re spitting in the face of their core fanbase, the ones who have supported the show for years.  Minaj needs to be fired and sent for therapy.  Nigel can go with her.

  • Chris

    “Nope, being relevant wouldn’t trump a legitimate threat.”

    I think that’s the key to all of this, instead of arguing did Nicki say something rude.  Of course she did, its all over the internet.  If I were her camp, I’d focus on was it a real promise to do bodily harm.  Is it “blowing off steam”, “selling wolf tickets”, or a viable threat.  My guess, some Fox producers saw the whole incident as just girls blowing steam and hoped they could go back to work.

    This gets tricky, and in the past, a person could say, well you know I didn’t mean it.  However now, after so many workplace violence incidences like the post office, schools, etc.. most companies take any comment at their word.  Or else, they can be sued for not protecting their employees or students.  Mariah will own Fox if anything happens to her now.

    Perception is in the eye of whomever was on the receiving end, so at my office, Mariah’s “fear”, even if it is exaggerated, would trump any excuse like “she started it.”  We just don’t live in a day and age you can say whatever you want, at least not at work or school.

  • Karen C

    Maybe so but they’re spitting in the face of their core fanbase, the ones who have supported the show for years.

    Not only that but also the former contestants and winners, who are trying to be taken seriously as musicians. It doesn’t help them if the show is seen as more of a reality show.

  • elliegrll

    Yes, Mariah’s claim would be taken seriously at most businesses, but especially at a network, where so much money is at stake.  That’s why I believe that the network and Fox know the whole story.  They know what’s has happened between the two singers, and they know what started this argument.  

    I don’t think that they’d be so quick to blame Mariah’s people for spreading false claims, if they didn’t have some evidence to back that up.

  • elliegrll

    I think they’d only be spitting in the face of those who have an issue with a black female rapper being on the panel, and my response to that is so what.

    And even then, they perceived offense exists only in the eyes of those who have a problem with Nicki being on the panel.

  • thirdtime

    Not only that, but as was said on The View, some fans are absolutely nut jobs.  Not just Nicki fans – but all celebrities have a hardcore nutty few who think it’s their duty to defend the celebrity at all cost and carry out their wishes.  To me it doesn’t matter who started this (and I am no Mariah fan at all – can’t stand her and never could) – but the fact is, Nicki is the only one who is yelling, cursing and threatening here (even if nothing more than off with her head was said).  As far as I have seen, Mariah has not done any of those things. 

    As they said on The View, Nicki should (at the very least) be making sure her fans do not take this to another level.  But instead what is she doing?  Fueling the fire by going on a twitter rant.  Totally immature.  I thought she was trying to present herself as a smart, articulate business woman?  Didn’t she just say she wants to be someone for young girls to look up to?  Has she absolutely no class or common sense on how to handle herself?

  • clearone

    Uhm no.  They’re spitting in the face of those who consider AI a family friendly show, one that the family can watch together.  This is taking it way beyond family friendly.  Steven might have been racey at times but he never crossed these lines.  This isn’t acceptable prime time family entertainment any longer.

  • abbysee

    I read elsewhere that the threat was after Nicki left the audition area. Even I don’t believe she’d be dumb enough to threaten Mariah on camera! I don’t believe this is a stunt. Not at all.

  • mzbet

    I will watch the show. Not gonna let these two throwing tantrums deprive me of the pleasure of seeing Keith Urban on my TV twice a week :p

  • Karen C

    I don’t either, because it’s a very serious and damaging allegation.  I can’t see Nicki going along with it.

  • turquoisewaters

    It’s a sad day for women when producers orchestrating a “bitch fight” passes for entertainment, while on the other channel two men are having a presidential debate.

  • houseone

    Just get rid of NM and go back to 3 judges.

  • Chris

    Combined with the video, even one reliable witness is all that a judge would need. It doesn’t have to be on camera, most threats aren’t. If I say something crazy walking out of a meeting, it just takes one person to turn me in. Believe me, there is a legal team scrambling right now weighing their options and any legal loopholes in both their contracts.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    This is, how you can end up into an impossible situation: You are practically prepared to remove all the old judging panel and you will hire with enormous sum of money one singing diva, of whose judging talent or social skills you do not know about enough. After you have hired her first with that mountain of money, you have kind of made her queen, whom everybody else should worship. But what if she is only a queen in singing, but not so much in getting along with the people? You are then having a HUGE problem, because there is then no experience of equality and mutual respect within the panel.
    I think that those people have written right here, who have doubted, if one can buy a good judge with big, big money. I mean look at what a sweet thing Demi is in X-factor, non-catty and joyful, whom everybody likes. Why would anybody want something else? To me it seems, that with the big money there is a big risk also to get big problems. One can so clealy see, how Mariah Carey is like kind of bullying here with her influence in media, so that to me it right now seems impossible, how it could be avoided, that this season would not now contain toxic and rotten flavour, whatever they would now try to do, when this continues like this Mariah going to media etc etc etc.
    If it could be econimically and otherwise possible, I would let go off both of the ladies and take instead for example Adam and then Cheryl Cole.
    Whom do I have faith of these two ladies (although they would both quit)? Nicki may be hot blooded, but I am 100 % sure she would not attack on Mariah without a reason. I have faith in her. So I really do hope, that she will survive from this one way or another.
    But like so many have said here: why has AI become “all about the judges” (and their fights etc)? It should be all about contestants. I think that the show has been all through the years quite healthy and refreshing, and I suffer, when these high paid judges are fighting like this and being so ugly role models to the youth, especially when so many people around the world are dying because of the lack of money and food.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Believe me, there is a legal team scrambling right now weighing their options and any legal loopholes in both their contracts.

    If there’s a credible witness to a death threat, then I’m doubly appalled that Lythgoe’s response to a threat to the talent is not to deal with it summarily and quietly, through the proper channels, but to dish dirt to TMZ, thereby muddying the waters for any legal proceedings. A producer who would put tabloid trash-talking above safety and security on his set should not be in charge.

    Lythgoe’s responsibility to the show was to run efficient auditions, which would ordinarily include defusing conflict among judges. Instead, he seems not only to have allowed it to escalate, but to have rushed to make it public.

  • Karen C

    Even if someone isn’t getting along well with the other judges, it’s still wrong to threaten to hurt someone.

    I also think that Barbara Walters would make sure if there was some truth to something before reporting something like that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    You are right, it is always wrong to do that if that has happened. You can defend yourself without threatening.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    Yes, I think that it is a sane thought, that for example if Mariah has offended Nicki like she claims, the producers should have tried to stop that kind of offending quite quickly on the spot, before it grows to something like it has now happened.

  • violet3

    Barbara Walters is the one who called Mariah. Barbara says they are “friends” of sorts. I’m wondering if Mariah said all this to her in confidence, but probably not. At some point she had to tell her side of the story because both of them are going to be asked about it. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I also think that Barbara Walters would make sure if there was some truth to something before reporting something like that.”

    From the way that Barbara reported her conversation with Mariah on “The View”, it doesn’t sound like she verified anything. She just revealed what Mariah told her.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/10/mariah-carey-claims-nicki-minaj-said-shed-shoot-her-over-idol-feud/

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XY62PETGTXO3FFQXX45UKQ2O7M Steph

    Nigel has sunk to new lows.

  • guinness 416

    The girls are doing their job, we’re talking about Idol in October and
    people will be tuning in when the first episode airs early 2013

    Ayup.  These 200-comment threads with people making multiple comments saying “Idol as we know it is RUINED” make me laugh.  That’s entertainment folks.

  • Chris

    Barbara is “old school” journalism.  She already knew Mariah, so she just called to get a bit of inside scoop.  I don’t think Nigel knows what he is up against from that regard.  Mariah is probably one of the most “connected” judges they have had.

  • fantoo1

    Now that I think about it, is it really that different from the fighting we see during Hollywood week? We have had contestants say “F**k you,” getting into each others faces, making each other cry, talking behind each others backs, etc. Sure it wasn’t as blown up as this, but it’s still real fighting.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Barbara is “old school” journalism.  She already knew Mariah, so she just called to get a bit of inside scoop.

    Well, except that “old school” journalism would have called for attempting to get Minaj’s story, as well as contacting Lythgoe to find out what happened and possibly doing some other source-checking.

    Running with a story based on “I talked to so-and-so before the show and she told me” is very much new-school journalism of the Twitter era, in which any ol’ bit of gossip is given the status of news. While Ms. Walters deserves credit for remaining modern and fresh in her approach, her handling of this story shows she’s moved a long way from old-school journalism.

  • elliegrll

    I think that even old school journalists would try talk to both parties, if the accusation is as serious as this one is.  You can’t treat the claim of threatening someone’s life as if it’s the same as any other piece of gossip.  The possible fallout is just too serious. 

  • elliegrll

    LOL, I wrote my reply before I read this.  Yes, this is modern journalism.  Matt Drudge would be very proud.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487285329 Willis Dunlow

      Nicki just has a filthy mouth if that transcript from video in post where she is cursing Carey out is correct! Forget the “shoot her” accusation–She still  has a nasty mouth if she said all that.( the “world” thinks thats cool and acceptable I guess these days and excuses  it as an “artistic ” expression?)…..AND would that be allowed in my workplace?….NO,someone contact HUMAN RESOURCES- my co-worker has serious functioning issues!!!

  • elliegrll

    Flirting with 15 year olds isn’t crossing the line?  Reducing Kara and some of the female contestants to nothing but sex objects isn’t crossing the line, either?

    First of all, none of us knows what the show will look like next year, but I really doubt that having Nicki Minaj on the show is going to change the level of family friendliness.  I know that given Simon and Ryan’s constant homophobic banter that that bar is set pretty low already, but I don’t see Nicki doing anything that will lower it.

  • LA Kim

    I am not surprised at Nicki’s behavior, she has been beefing with Lil Kim (old school rapper) for awhile now and she’s said plenty of cray on twitter before AI.

    Pepsi could care less, they have Lil Wayne as a spokesperson for Mountain Dew and he’s definitely no saint.

    Nicki is a rapper and hip hop would give straight kudos if one pic was tweeted of someone holding her back from going at Mariah. She will then write a rap about Mariah like “Stupid H*e” ( it has 63,273,438  Youtube views and yes that’s millions) and move on like the rest of the judges. 

    The fact is in hip hop Nicki would gain fans.

  • elliegrll

    As they said on The View, Nicki should (at the very least) be making sure her fans do not take this to another level.’

    Nicki didn’t comment on this until she went on Thursday’s twitter rant.  She wasn’t the one who released the video, and she wasn’t the one who just made the situation worse by talking to Barbara Walters.  

    The situation was fueled by what was said on The View.  Yesterday, all the statements that were released said that the situation had been taken care of.  All of the media attention from today has focused on what Mariah told Ms. Walters.  

  • elliegrll

    Nicki also has a very healthy career in pop, and endorsement deals with major organizations.  But beyond that, nobody wants to be accused of saying that they would kill someone, if they didn’t actually say it.

    Nicki wrote a song about Lil Kim, but she didn’t start that feud.  

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    I wish American women wouldn’t let themselves to be used like that. Producers are, most likely, fueling this feud based on the stereotypes that women are catty and public (including women) eat it up. This way women will never be respected anywhere, thank you Mariah and Niki for that!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Looking at past twitter rants, Nicki clearly has a short fuse and overly aggressive responses when it comes to any type of criticism. When fans were upset over a performance cancellation, Nicki’s response to them on Twitter was to “eat shit and die” and told them  “if you can’t understand…your mother is a whore”.

    Nicki’s verbal rage-like assualt to Mariah in front of the other judges and the production crew shows she has poor impulse control. There is something much more serious going on here than a simple “losing it a little one time” reaction.

  • http://twitter.com/cd11th Christian

    “Nicki also has a very healthy career in pop”I know you follow Nicki quite a bit, so I know that YOU know thats not true at all. Nicki’s latest album hasn’t been doing well at all, barely selling 600K. For an artist considered “relevant”, that isn’t in the least bit impressive. Her singles haven’t been doing better, either. She’s about three years into her career, has already released a truck load of singles, and yet none has ever seen the top of the Billboard Hot 100. This especially looks bad when comparing Nicki’s career to her main competitors/peers: Rihanna, Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, et al. She’s still in public awareness because of her over the top persona and attention seeking outfits. 

  • http://twitter.com/cd11th Christian

    It goes without saying that Mariah Carey is one of the most popular, celebrated, influential and powerful women in music history. But even above all that, she is a master media manipulator. She’s playing Nicki like a puppeteer plays a puppet right in front of America. And the public is siding with Mariah. Whether you agree with her agenda or not, the woman is made of steel. She knows what she wants and stops at nothing to get it. People like Madonna has been more outright with her viciousness. Don’t be fooled by the butterflies and rainbows, because what bubbles under the surface is a woman as cold, cunning and ruthless as an Elizabethan courtier. At this point everyone, including Nick herself, knows Mariah wants her off the panel, and after that twitter rant, she probably wants Nicki out of the music industry. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nicki was only a flash of a memory this time next year, because Mariah can swipe Nicki’s career with her debit card. 

  • http://twitter.com/cd11th Christian

    Whether the “threat” was real or not, I guess we’ll never know. I actually believe that it was the producers, in alliance with Mariah’s entourage, staged the “death threat”. I don’t believe that Mariah herself would make it up. But if in fact Nicki DID make a threatening remark, then she should be fired. That profane episode alone is enough for Mariah to claim workplace intimidation against her. American Idol, after all the madness settles, is still a workplace. But Mariah doesn’t need the support of producers or execs, or even the higher ups. Her biggest and most effective security is the public. And she’s got it.

  • Truthisagun

    American idol has become a total farce with all this crap.
    A show with no class at all.
    What an insult to all it’s viewers and to the talent who came out of this show. 

  • Chris

    Barbara:  1) offered at the end for Nicki to speak up if she wanted to come on later and 2) as I said before, there is enough already to show that Nicki threatened Mariah.  The gun comment wasn’t on camera, but the rest was shown the day before on TMZ, Access Hollywood, etc.. its called a precedent. The title of MJs first blog about this even was “Nicki Minag Threatens to Knock Mariah Carey Out.”  Nicki’s track record shows she will cuss someone out in a second.

  • CB40

    I’m not siding with Mariah. Mariah is the “devilish diva in disguise” type who struck first but did it in a way where she knew Nicky would get caught retaliating.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree, but to be honest, Barbara was never an advocate of “old school journalism”, so she really hasn’t changed.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Nicki undermines the fact that she has good reason to be angry when she goes way OTT in her reaction. It seems to me like Mariah (and her “people”) exploited that fact and it helped to make Nicki look bad and garner public support for Mariah in this circus. If anything, she needs some anger management advice, and should
    understand that her excessive outbursts are only going to hurt her.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree. Sadly, Nicki is totally outmatched by Mariah and helping Mariah in her PR campaign against her.

  • hcpoirot

    This is so spot on. Its like the episode of Bad Girls Club or any series of Real Housewives.

    NOTE to all talent singing reality shows: Just hired one diva as judge in any reality singing talent show.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Not only that, but as was said on The View, some fans are absolute nut
    jobs.  Not just Nicki fans – but all celebrities have a hardcore nutty
    few who think it’s their duty to defend the celebrity at all cost and
    carry out their wishes. ”

    Absolutely, and all you have to do is read the @MariahCarey tweets to realize that. There are tweets directed at Mariah from Nicki fans that are threatening bodily harm, which is pretty scary.

  • hcpoirot

    You dont put TWO DIVA women on the judges panel. Other show with 2 women judges did not had this huge problem. X Factor UK and now Britney and Demi also okay.

    Mark Burnett is the smart one by pairing Christina with 3 male judges. (Woth only 1 diva, Christina had a nasty feud with Adam in season 2)

    Nigel you get what you wish for.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Right. It’s the personality, not the gender, that is important.

  • Chris

    Yes, you can have two women, one just has to be the mellow one – Kara, Demi, Ellen, the girl from the Pussycat Dolls…. darn. Forgot her name already.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nicole. There have been far more instances of 2 women getting along fine on judging panels (X-Factor UK, Idol) than not getting along. It’s about personality, not gender. If Kanye West were on a judging panel, they would have to be careful about who else was there. It’s about personality, not gender.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The saga continues …. lol

    Cee Lo Green Weighs In On Nicki Minaj, Mariah Carey Feud: “Hardly Anything’s Legit”

    There’s one cynic out there who thinks that friction between Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey is oh-so-false and that’s Cee Lo Green!
    The Voice judge sounded off to a website after lunching
    yesterday in West Hollywood. “This is Hollywood, California. Hardly
    anything’s legit.”

    http://www.okmagazine.com/news/cee-lo-green-weighs-nicki-minaj-mariah-carey-feud-hardly-anythings-legit

  • jga94

    Suddenly I am missing JLo and Steven…

  • Chris

    If I were Nicki, that is the only tact I would take to get out of this mess. This is Hollywood, I put on a show.