This week, we have milestones on Pop, HAC and UAC representing two franchises of Idol (American and Canadian) and two franchises of X-Factor (UK and US).

First, let’s discuss Pop. Phil Phillips !single has grown wings on that format and has the second highest bullet. That was enough to move “Home” into the top 20 on Pop. Doesn’t look like his coronation song is going anywhere soon and it will be interesting to see what strategy the label takes for performances going into the album release period. This song shows no signs of stopping. “Home” will be topping the AAA chart within days (I never thought I would say that about a coronation song) and the top of HAC also seems reachable. The Christmas freeze is coming, so there probably isn’t time to launch a new single after this song peaks. Decisions. Decisions. Decisions. But, it’s nice to have this kind of situtation to make decisions about.

Also on Pop are Carly Rae Jepsen and Kelly Clarkson reaching the top 40 in that format. “This Kiss” is the second solo song from Carly Rae to reach top 40 in this format although her collaboration with Owl City was her second song to be a hit on Pop. “Catch My Breath” Kelly’s single anchoring her greatest hits album and it’s looking like it belongs on just such an album. Radio is really embracing this song.

Over on HAC, we have two milestones. Again, Kelly’s “Catch My Breath” continues to race to the milestones and is top 20 now. Daughtry’s “Start of Something Good” backs into top 30 in a week it loses its bullet.

Representing the X-Factor, we have One Direction and Melanie Amaro. Melanie is X-Factor US’s first season winner and her “Love Me Now” has gone top 30 on UAC. “Live Like We’re Young”, One Direction’s lead-off single from their second album, went top 50 on AC. The song is charting on three formats.

Finally, we have to mention the curious case of “Come Along”. This song is from season 1 voice contestant Vicci Martinez and features her coach Cee Lo Green. The song first charted with us back in July for a few weeks on HAC and then faded. It returns to the top 50 this week and I’m not exactly sure what caused this to happen months later. Anybody? Bueller? Phil also returns to the top 50 on Alternative Rock after an abscene of a week.

Carly Rae Jepsen (CI):
“Call Me Maybe”: 7 AC (6)
“Good Time” with Owl City: 11 Pop (8); 8 HAC (8); ^15 AC (15)
“This Kiss” ^39 Pop (42)

Carrie Underwood:
“Blown Away”: 6 Country (3); ^37 HAC (40)

Casey Abrams:
“Get Out” 42 HAC (42)

Casey James:
“Crying on a Suitcase: ^22 Country (20)

Cher Lloyd (UK XF):
“Oath” featuring Becky G: ^34 Pop (35)

Chris Mann:
“Roads”: 32 AC (33)

Daughtry:
“Start of Something Good”: 30 HAC (32)

Hedley (CI):
“Kiss You Inside and Out”: ^25 HAC (25)

Jason Castro:
“Only a Mountain”: 19 CAC (20)

Kelly Clarkson:
“Catch My Breath”: ^20 HAC (24), ^27 AC (30); ^40 Pop (46)
“Stronger”: ^5 AC (5)

Lauren Alaina:
“Eighteen Inches”: ^36 Country (34)

Marcus Canty:
“In and Out”: 42 Urban (32)

Melanie Amaro:
“Love Me Now”: ^29 UAC (35)

One Direction (UK XF):
“Live Like We’re Young”: ^15 Pop (15), 45 HAC (43), ^46 (62)
“What Makes You Beautiful”: 8 AC (9)

Phillip Phillips:
“Home”: ^3 HAC (3); ^12 AC (12); ^18 Pop (21); ^2 AAA (2), ALT 50 (52)

Vicci Martinez:
“Come Along” f. Cee Lo Green”: ^49 HAC (58)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. The “^” (aka “a bullet”) indicates that a song gained spins since last week

Adds listed on AllAccess:
Nov 6: Pop/RHY: Sean Kingston “Rum and Raybans” f. Cher Lloyd
Nov 12: Country: Kelly Clarkson “Don’t Rush” f. Vince Gill

This is the daily numbers thread for Monday. Stats collected on Monday morning.

 
  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    First, let’s discuss Pop. Phil Phillips’ single has grown wings on that format and has the second highest bullet. 

    Yup, this is exactly what ought to happen with an HAC crossover song to CHR: once the song is firmly in the top 5 in HAC and still upward bound, it should see a boost on CHR as PDs there take it more seriously. It’ll be interesting to see how far it goes and what this means for album promo. 

  • wkstrack

    I wonder how is Interscope going to market Phillip. Wasn’t that a big problem with Kris and RCA when LLWD became a hit? 

  • jpfan2

    Home is so close to #1 on Triple A but no cigar yet. ;0 It’s still hasn’t peaked which means no new single for a while (too bad as I’m ready and think he could use it.)

    I’m sick of Home but it still has plenty of room to grow on CHR.

  • Anny_nanny

    “The Christmas freeze is coming, so there probably isn’t time to launch a new single after this song peaks.”

    Won’t lie that I am in awe of “Where We Came From”, but then what will happen with this release?

  • http://twitter.com/cheeseE1 EH

    I wonder if “Where We Came From” (which is listed under “country” at Amazon) might actually be released to country, while Home continues up the charts on other formats? Seems unlikely, but who knows?  They’ve done a good job with him so far. 

    I think it would be a good idea for the label to release a song from the album this week and next week ahead of the album release to satisfy the curiosity of those who know Home, but don’t know Phillip from Idol.  I guess that’s another possibility for WWCF. I don’t understand why he has no iTunes pre-order two weeks ahead of the release. 

  • OffLeash

    Argh! Home missed the #1 spot on AAA today by 4 spins! Tomorrow then LOL.  

    Home should overtake Fun. very soon on HAC for the #2 spot, and although it’s still 500 spins behind Maroon 5, it could even take the #1 spot before the 19.

    On the CHR front, Home has about half the spins of the #10 song as of today, so my guess is top 15 is a sure bet, but top 10 by the 19th is still no guarantee at this time, although the latest CHR updates are excellent.

  • OffLeash

    From the snippet I heard,  “Where We Came From” sounds like the usual pop lite dreck Idols notoriously get stuck with, so my hope is they’ll use the excuse of Home still having legs to scrap it, and send a different single after the holiday freeze.

  • Hazehel

    Won’t lie that I am in awe of “Where We Came From”, but then what will happen with this release?

    It is not easy to judge from brief snippets,  but personally I think they shouldn’t release “Where We Came From”.  “Gone Gone Gone” is a better choice I think (I think the lyrics of the song follow more logically from “Home”) if the snippet is anything to go by.  But then of course, the snippet may be misleading and I might change my mind hearing the full version.  Perhaps the label don’t want to have two songs in a row where Phillip Phillips has no writing credit; If so, maybe they can choose Get Up Get Down because Phillip has writing credit there.

  • OffLeash

    Or Hold On, which sounds like a good song too, and that P2 wrote all by himself.

  • springboard2

    MEDIABASE PUBLISHED CHARTS. Include all current charts except for the Canada and Latin panels, plus  AAA, Country, HAC  and Top 40 recurrent charts (entries with no chart position).

    LW TW ARTIST TITLE TWS LWS MOVE AUD
    AAA:
    3 2 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 583 503 80 2.466
    AC:
    5 5 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill .. 1566 1598 -32 11.821
    6 6 CARLY RAE JEPSEN Call Me Maybe 1469 1488 -19 13.674
    8 9 ONE DIRECTION What Makes You Beautiful 1306 1348 -42 8.905
    12 12 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 837 784 53 4.347
    KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 657 641 16 5.316
    16 15 OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN Good Time 551 422 129 3.564
    JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 358 342 16 2.134
    32 27 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 94 52 42 0.273
    DAUGHTRY Crawling Back To You 83 91 -8 0.594
    33 32 CHRIS MANN Roads 54 46 8 0.168
    75 46 ONE DIRECTION Live While We’re Young 14 5 9 0.092
    Christian AC:
    20 19 JASON CASTRO Only A Mountain 386 403 -17 1.189
    34 32 COLTON DIXON You Are 120 108 12 0.221
    Country:
    2 6 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Blown Away 5310 6325 -1015 43.401
    20 22 CASEY JAMES Crying On A Suitcase 2326 2327 -1 18.478
    CARRIE UNDERWOOD Good Girl 1002 1068 -66 8.107
    33 36 LAUREN ALAINA Eighteen Inches 722 716 6 4.144
    HAC:
    4 3 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 4451 4213 238 31.987
    8 8 OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN Good Time 3455 3467 -12 24.522
    KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill .. 1603 1617 -14 13.632
    CARLY RAE JEPSEN Call Me Maybe 1565 1565 0 13.45
    ONE DIRECTION What Makes You Beautiful 1426 1462 -36 12.75
    24 20 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 1312 831 481 10.237
    25 25 HEDLEY Kiss You Inside Out 789 754 35 2.917
    KELLY CLARKSON Mr. Know It All 608 601 7 4.066
    32 30 DAUGHTRY Start Of Something Good 461 462 -1 2.384
    KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 411 455 -44 3.32
    40 39 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Blown Away 330 312 18 1.511
    42 41 CASEY ABRAMS Get Out 269 286 -17 0.582
    43 44 ONE DIRECTION Live While We’re Young 251 265 -14 1.126
    POP:
    8 11 OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN Good Time 7789 9341 -1552 51.983
    15 15 ONE DIRECTION Live While We’re Young 5351 5207 144 28.161
    21 18 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 4397 3549 848 32.45
    CARLY RAE JEPSEN Call Me Maybe 2421 2315 106 18.507
    ONE DIRECTION What Makes You Beautiful 2046 2062 -16 13.883
    KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill .. 1544 1392 152 9.013
    35 34 CHER LLOYD Oath f/Becky G 1437 1245 192 10.285
    41 40 CARLY RAE JEPSEN This Kiss 970 815 155 3.828
    46 41 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 908 408 500 3.738
    CHER LLOYD Want U Back 905 965 -60 6.195
    SmoothJazz:
    11 16 CASEY ABRAMS Simple Life 49 47 2 0.516
    41 40 KELLY CLARKSON Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill .. 24 24 0 0.193
    Urban:
    32 39 MARCUS CANTY In And Out f/Wale 428 636 -208 1.269
    Urban AC:
    33 32 MELANIE AMARO Love Me Now 179 174 5 0.567

  • springboard2

    Mediabase -  Monday update

    AAA:
    2 2 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 581 510 71 2.512
    -2 Spins
    -9 Bullet
    +0.046 AI
    Country:
    3 6 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Blown Away 5106 6208 -1102 42.018
    -204 Spins
    -87 Bullet
    -1.383 AI
    20 22 CASEY JAMES Crying On A Suitcase 2373 2285 88 18.653
    +47 Spins
    +89 Bullet
    +0.175 AI
    34 36 LAUREN ALAINA Eighteen Inches 735 720 15 4.234
    +13 Spins
    +9 Bullet
    +0.09 AI
    HAC:
    3 3 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 4438 4254 184 32.28
    -13 Spins
    -54 Bullet
    +0.293 AI
    8 8 OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN Good Time 3431 3472 -41 24.425
    -24 Spins
    -29 Bullet
    -0.097 AI
    24 20 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 1321 945 376 10.267
    +9 Spins
    -105 Bullet
    +0.03 AI
    25 25 HEDLEY Kiss You Inside Out 789 763 26 2.916
    0 Spins
    -9 Bullet
    -0.001 AI
    32 30 DAUGHTRY Start Of Something Good 453 468 -15 2.258
    -8 Spins
    -14 Bullet
    -0.126 AI
    40 37 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Blown Away 337 312 25 1.522
    +7 Spins
    +7 Bullet
    +0.011 AI
    42 42 CASEY ABRAMS Get Out 261 285 -24 0.568
    -8 Spins
    -7 Bullet
    -0.014 AI
    43 45 ONE DIRECTION Live While We’re Young 245 272 -27 1.122
    -6 Spins
    -13 Bullet
    -0.004 AI
    POP:
    8 11 OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN Good Time 7526 9207 -1681 50.752
    -263 Spins
    -129 Bullet
    -1.231 AI
    15 15 ONE DIRECTION Live While We’re Young 5331 5260 71 28.213
    -20 Spins
    -73 Bullet
    +0.052 AI
    21 18 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 4503 3621 882 32.9
    +106 Spins
    +34 Bullet
    +0.45 AI
    35 34 CHER LLOYD Oath f/Becky G 1422 1291 131 10.159
    -15 Spins
    -61 Bullet
    -0.126 AI
    42 39 CARLY RAE JEPSEN This Kiss 978 840 138 4.055
    +8 Spins
    -17 Bullet
    +0.227 AI
    46 40 KELLY CLARKSON Catch My Breath 964 488 476 4.02
    +56 Spins
    -24 Bullet
    +0.282 AI

  • springboard2

    ITunes Charts (from LivePopBars)

    11/5/2012 – Top 1000 Singles
    11. Home – Phillip Phillips
    13. Blown Away – Carrie Underwood
    23. Live While We’re Young – One Direction
    29. Good Time – Owl City & Carly Rae Jepsen
    33. Don’t Rush (feat. Vince Gill) – Kelly Clarkson
    40. Call Me Maybe – Carly Rae Jepsen
    70. Want U Back – Cher Lloyd
    96. What Makes You Beautiful – One Direction
    102. Oath (feat. Becky G) – Cher Lloyd
    109. Catch My Breath – Kelly Clarkson
    122. Good Girl – Carrie Underwood
    127. You Are – Colton Dixon
    141. Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) – Kelly Clarkson
    151. Crying On a Suitcase – Casey James
    153. One Thing – One Direction
    213. This Kiss – Carly Rae Jepsen
    218. Call Me Maybe (The Voice Performance) – MacKenzie Bourg
    238. Dark Side – Kelly Clarkson
    281. Before He Cheats – Carrie Underwood
    363. Good Morning (feat. TobyMac) – Mandisa & tobyMac
    412. Bulletproof (The Voice Performance) – Melanie Martinez
    420. Maybe I’m Amazed (The Voice Performance) – Terry McDermott
    427. Cowboy Casanova – Carrie Underwood
    431. Jesus, Take the Wheel – Carrie Underwood
    480. Up All Night – One Direction
    526. Moments – One Direction
    535. Payphone (The Voice Performance) – Cassadee Pope
    567. Mr. Know It All – Kelly Clarkson
    589. Undo It – Carrie Underwood
    627. Put Your Records On (The Voice Performance) – Nicholas David
    632. Against All Odds (The Voice Performance) – Trevin Hunte
    647. With Ur Love – Cher Lloyd
    674. How Great Thou Art – Carrie Underwood
    682. Heart Skips a Beat (feat. Chiddy Bang) – Olly Murs
    728. Swagger Jagger – Cher Lloyd
    748. What Makes You Beautiful – One Direction
    832. All-American Girl – Carrie Underwood
    854. More Than This – One Direction
    873. Stand Up – One Direction
    877. Na Na Na (Live) – One Direction
    890. Already Gone – Kelly Clarkson
    910. One Thing – One Direction
    928. Beautiful – Carly Rae Jepsen & Justin Bieber
    932. The Trouble With Girls – Scotty McCreery
    946. Temporary Home – Carrie Underwood
    1001. Gotta Be You (2012 US Version) – One Direction
    1004. Eighteen Inches – Lauren Alaina
    1019. So Small – Carrie Underwood

    11/5/2012 – Top 1000 Albums
    11. Blown Away – Carrie Underwood
    13. Take Me Home (Yearbook Edition) – One Direction
    20. Take Me Home – One Direction
    54. Up All Night – One Direction
    60. Up All Night (Deluxe Version) – One Direction
    109. Sticks & Stones – Cher Lloyd
    175. Play On – Carrie Underwood
    220. Christmas With Scotty McCreery – Scotty McCreery
    226. Kiss (Deluxe) – Carly Rae Jepsen
    244. PTXmas – EP – Pentatonix
    272. Some Hearts – Carrie Underwood
    282. Stronger (Deluxe Version) – Kelly Clarkson
    316. Greatest Hits – Chapter One – Kelly Clarkson
    320. Carnival Ride – Carrie Underwood
    381. Clear As Day – Scotty McCreery
    452. PTX, Vol. 1 – Pentatonix
    453. Roads – Chris Mann
    489. I’m Right Here – Chris Rene
    523. Casey James – Casey James
    529. iTunes Festival: London 2012 – EP – One Direction
    578. Phillip Phillips: Journey to the Finale – Phillip Phillips
    631. Trespassing (Deluxe Version) – Adam Lambert
    743. What If We Were Real – Mandisa
    885. Break the Spell (Deluxe Version) – Daughtry
    978. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson

  • Anny_nanny

    Between “Gone Gone Gone” and “Hold On” I don’t remember about GGG. But I
    don’t buy singles, I have no such possibility, and I’m waiting for the album.

  • Hazehel

    Or Hold On, which sounds like a good song too, and that P2 wrote all by himself.

    Don’t know, “Hold On” doesn’t strike me as a good single.  The one song written by Phillip that I like is “Wanted is Love” but I don’t know if it works as a single either.  The usual caveat about the unreliability of judgement based on snippets applied.  

  • OffLeash

    Are there reviews out there from people who heard the whole album, not just the snippets?

  • OffLeash

    tbh, and with the usual disclaimer re snippets, the only song that sounds like a probable hit is Gone Gone Gone, but I can see why they would want the next single to show writing credits from P2.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    WWCF gives P2 a “new single” to perform with album-release publicity on shows where he’s already performed Home or as a second song on shows that’ll let him do two. 

    Interscope can send WWCF to HAC as soon as Home peaks in that format, as the song’s so HAC that it’d have to cross to CHR anyway, so there’s little point in waiting for the CHR peak. If the song prospers on HAC, it’ll start having an impact on album sales in early- to mid-winter 2013, about when Home peaks on CHR and about when P2 should be thinking about touring. Run with it through spring, give P2 a third single for summer touring, and there you are.

    Or if Interscope doesn’t like feedback it gets on WWCF, it calls the song a “promotional single” and releases something else in January or early February for radio.

  • Anny_nanny

    Forgetting that I like, I don’t understand how you can release the two same single if the rest of the album differs from them? Should buyers get an unpleasant surprise? Don’t they need to submit the album?

    To Eilonwy:
    Thanks for the explanation.

  • OffLeash

    I agree they shouldn’t release GGG as the second single because the whole vibe is similar to Home, but hopefully they will release it as the 3rd single. But I’m afraid releasing WWCF is gonna be seen as a huge let down if that snippet is any indication.

  • Anny_nanny

    Half a year ago, I had the same thought about “Home”. If I remember correctly, we will get remix, not song. I suggest to wait and try to believe Jimmy. We have not choice.

  • OffLeash

    Yeah, Jimmy’s decisions have been spot on so far, so I hope it works out. I did like Home right away though. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/cheeseE1 EH

    If people like Home and hear another similar song (like GGG) that they also like, then it probably increases their chances of buying the album, no?  I don’t think the label really cares if people buy the album and then find that they don’t like more than a couple of songs. The album was so rushed, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just want to capitalize on Home and that particular sound in the short-term.

    Even though Phillip co-wrote it, I don’t think that WWCF is very representative of the album as a whole any more than Home is.  The album has a few distinct sounds, but WWCF and So Easy are the only “WGWG AI Winner Bland Album Tracks” that I hear. They could have been on Lee’s, David’s, or Kris’s albums just as easily as Phillip’s, while most of the other songs sound more distinctly like him.  

    I’ll believe that we’re getting a “ft. Drake” remix of the kinda twangy sounding WWCF when I hear it, lol.

  • IrisandLilies

    I wasn’t overly impressed with WWCF the first time I heard it.  It has grown on me more and more as I’ve listened to the snippets numerous times.  I can see the elements in the song that make it very radio friendly.  For some reason it brings to mind some of Taylor Swift’s songs.  While I think the song could get some airplay on the radio, I don’t see it becoming a mega hit. 

    My personal choice for Phillip’s next single would be Get Up, Get Down.  That is the one song I always replay when I listen to the snippets.  It just makes me want to dance every time I hear it.  My only concern about the song is whether it is very similar to one of DMB’s hit songs.  After a cursory search on YouTube, I haven’t been able to identify a similar DMB song, but then I am not very familiar with DMB’s body of work.

    As for Gone, Gone, Gone, while the music for this song sounds like a fusion of Fun and Mumford and Sons, the lyrics (e.g., “if you fall like a statue”) are not up to the standards of either of those bands.  That might be a problem if AAA radio listeners are more discerning when it comes to the quality of lyrics. 

  • girlygirltoo

    From the snippets, I thought WWCF was one of the weakest songs, so I don’t understand why they would want that to be the 2nd single. Unless of course, the snippet is misleading.

    They don’t have time for a new single to really impact any format before the Christmas freeze kicks in, so I would guess they will just stick with “Home” as the only thing sent to radio until after the New Year, while allowing Phillip to perform other song(s) off the album for his promotional appearances. 

  • girlygirltoo

    Also, didn’t Melanie’s song already go Top 30 in UAC? Either last week or the week before?

  • Hazehel

    With P2, the necessary “next move” is a less Mumfordy 

    “Gone Gone Gone” is not Mumfordy, actually I would say that what’s common between “Home” and “Gone Gone Gone” is Paul Simon – “Home” is more “Simon & Garfunkel” while “Gone Gone Gone” is more Paul Simon’s with just a dash of Beatles’ “Yellow Submarine”.  

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Also, didn’t Melanie’s song already go Top 30 in UAC? Either last week or the week before?

    LMN was #29 on UAC on October 26, according to kworb’s archives. It basically vibrates between 29 and 35 these days, which most of the movement between 31 and 34. There’s probably some engineering equation involving wave forms that would explain it.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Robbie Williams scores 14th number one of his career with Candy… as Radio 1′s Nick Grimshaw labels his music ‘irrelevant’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2228035/Robbie-Williams-matches-Gary-Barlows-record-scores-14th-number-career-Candy.html

    Ageism is alive and well. Even in the UK.

  • OffLeash

    To me, GGG is the love child of Home and Some Nights, which is really cool because I love both songs, and in fact, I like Some Nights even better than Home. :)

    As for “WHY WWCF?” I hope it’s not another case of someone up the food chain using an Idol single to repay favors. I couldn’t find anything substantial about this Jon Green dude, except a Soundclick page under John Green that might or might not be his. If that’s him, he doesn’t seem to have anything substantial in his resume, so I hope he isn’t a friend/relative of management, and Jimmy really believes ~for whatever reason~ that WWCF was the best choice for the second single. 

  • lufausljc

    “Home” is back to the top ten on iTunes. Wow. Does anyone know if any big releases this week might push “Home” out of the top ten again? 

  • ptebwwong

    CHART DATE: 11/05/2012
    LAST UPDATE: 11/05/2012 11:11:42
    NOW IN: 54.98%

    LW TW artist / album label power index
    1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 204,239
    RED
    – 2 MEEK MILL MAYBACH/WARNER BROS. 126,166
    DREAMS & NIGHTMARES
    – 3 ROD STEWART VERITY 45,483
    MERRY CHRISTMAS BABY
    3 4 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 41,654
    NIGHT TRAIN
    – 5 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG 32,162
    HOPE ON THE ROCKS
    2 6 KENDRICK LAMAR AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 20,193
    GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY
    11 7 LITTLE BIG TOWN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 20,044
    TORNADO
    – 8 TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA LAVA/REPUBLIC 18,300
    DREAMS OF FIREFLIES
    – 9 CALVIN HARRIS COLUMBIA 13,070
    18 MONTHS
    4 10 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 12,427
    BABEL
    13 14 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 10,390
    CHRISTMAS WITH SCOTTY
    43 16 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 8,475
    CHEERS, IT’S CHRISTMAS
    5 18 TONY BENNETT COLUMBIA 8,335
    VIVA DUETS
    20 20 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJ 8,033
    BELIEVE
    19 22 ONE DIRECTION SYCO/COLUMBIA 7,300
    UP ALL NIGHT
    21 23 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 6,489
    BLOWN AWAY
    14 24 MAROON 5 A&M/OCTONE 6,317
    OVEREXPOSED
    24 25 NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 43 CAPITOL 5,674
    VARIOUS ARTISTS
    38 26 JACKIE EVANCHO SYCO/COLUMBIA 5,545
    SONGS FROM THE SILVER SCREEN
    – 37 CARLY RAE JEPSEN SCHOOLBOY/INTERSCOPE 3,591
    KISS
    45 41 GREEN DAY REPRISE 2,847
    UNO

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I couldn’t find anything substantial about this Jon Green dude

    Tracking him down is a tedious and convoluted process of sorting out Jon Greens, but he’s this one, a British producer and composer who’s worked with Ed Sheeran, Kris Allen, Lee DeWyze, Olly Murs, and assorted others.

    I suspect the reasoning behind WWCF is that it comes close-ish to having a “big sing-along chorus” (and of course, it was necessary to have a P2 cowrite if there’s to be another try at AAA, which ruled out GGG).

  • IrisandLilies

    Jon Green’s webpage states that he has worked with both Kris Allen and Lee DeWyze.  Kris’s discography page on Wikipedia shows that they co-wrote an unreleased song, “Keep the Light On.” 

    What may be going on is that Al or 19 is using the Idols’ albums/recordings as a way to promote UK artists/musicians in America.  

  • OffLeash

    Ha! Thanks. This guy has a much better resume than the other one, thank the Idol gods!

    idk about WWCF’s big sing-along chorus, the whole snippet sounds so disappointingly generic pop lite to me, but I’ll cross my fingers Jimmy’s master plan works out. 

  • lightoftruth777

    Christmas With Scotty McCreery 3rd week sales with 54.98% reported! NICE GOING! ;-))

    13 14 SCOTTY MCCREERY MERC NASH/19/INTERSCOPE 10,390CHRISTMAS WITH SCOTTY

  • OffLeash

    Ugh. What an awful thought. P2′s so screwed if they’re using his album to promote generic singles from people 19 is trying to push. 

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Ugh. What an awful thought. P2′s so screwed if they’re using his album to promote generic singles from people 19 is trying to push.

    Fortunately, I don’t think that’s anywhere close to true. Jon Green’s management is Radius, which has no connection to 19. 19, in turn, has no connection to the UK (Simon Fuller is long gone to XIX) and no reason to promote UK artists, especially UK artists who aren’t on its roster. So for 19 to be trying to push Green at the expense of one of its own artists is absurd. Green also has no integral connection to Interscope (Universal Publishing is the publishing arm and operated pretty separately from recording).

    So it’s much more likely that Green is one of a number of songwriters who gets along well with major labels and happens to live in the UK. Moderately important songwriters and producers do live all over the world — Max Martin’s in Sweden.

    That still doesn’t make me love the song’s production, but I’d chalk up the decision to the label liking the sound/structure of the song (whether wisely or not), rather than to deal-cutting.

  • Mateja Praznik

     OMG, that guy wrote with Kris Allen, Lee DeWyze, Matt Cardle and now Phillip Phillips …

  • OffLeash

    He still could be a personal friend of the top people at 19, and/or they could’ve cut a deal with him a few years ago for Idol albums. All I know is that I find WWCF bland, generic and boring, and it seems to be the reaction of the vast majority of those who’ve heard the snippet, which makes me very suspicious as to the motives behind picking it as the next single. 

  • OffLeash

    And Kimberly Caldwell. And Olly Murs. OMG. Yuck. So disappointed in Jimmy for allowing that or being a part of it.

  • Hazehel

    “Home” is back to the top ten on iTunes. 

    The Band Perry is dropping so Home might go #9.   It is quite tenacious that song, songs that were higher on the chart weeks ago and still have more spins than Home and now dropping rapidly (e.g. Justin Bieber now at #20, Alex Clare #21, Owl City and Carly #30, Pink #63!), but Home shows no sign of seriously dropping just yet.   Before I would have guessed it might take 9 months to get to 3x platinum, now I wondering if that might happen sooner.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

     

    All I know is that I find WWCF bland, generic and boring, and it seems to be the reaction of the vast majority of those who’ve heard the snippet, which makes me very suspicious as to the motivation behind picking it as the next single.

    My edited version: All I know is that I find _______ (fill in the blank with Idolette’s singles from the past several years) bland, generic and boring…

    Just wait until they are promoting your favorite’s second album!

    Welcome to being a fan of an Idol contestant! lol

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    He still could be a personal friend of the top people at 19, and/or they could’ve cut a deal with him a few years ago for Idol albums.

    Well, I know the existence of these back-room deals is an article of fan faith, but it’s funny… never, in any book on how to make it as a songwriter or musician, or how to navigate the legalities of the music biz, or how to succeed as a music entrepreneur, have I found one. single. mention of such a deal.

    Not advice to seek one for easy profits. Not advice to watch out for it in your contracts. Not a rant from a disgruntled musician about how these deals ruined his career through poor singles choices (and some musicians throw mighty big public sh*t-fits when not gruntled). Not brags from successful songwriters in their interviews with NPR. Not canny advice from rebel entertainment lawyers. Nothin’.

    Meanwhile, there’s a goodly amount of readily obtainable information on audience testing to choose singles. (And I wouldn’t be surprised if when A&R execs brag about their gut instinct, some of it involves liking their friends’ work — if we assume A&R execs have friends who aren’t bartenders. I’m not so sure about that.)

    Now, I haven’t read every music interview and book out there, but I do seek this stuff out to fill the empty hours left after tweeting ironic photos of my cat… and I’m very skeptical that in an industry full of people who rant and tell-all and brag about their recipe for success, there’d be no mention whatever of these deals.

    I truly think this Jon Green keeps working with Idols and such because he creates a product that the labels and 19 like, and he does it efficiently. Heaven knows I spend a lot of time and money at Walmart, not because I have an endorsement deal or because I even like it (I mostly don’t), but because the store is convenient and reliable.

  • Hazehel

    I suspect the reasoning behind WWCF is that it comes close-ish to having a “big sing-along chorus

    Don’t know about, I’d be more likely to sing along to “FOR YOUUOO, FOR-OR YOUUUUOOOO…” than whatever that’s is in the chorus of WWCF.

  • OffLeash

    I truly think this Jon Green keeps working with Idols and such because he creates a product that the labels and 19 like, and he does it efficiently.

    I still think there must be some unofficial financial benefit behind this cooperation, even if nobody brags about it.

    Egad. I’m so disappointed. I had no illusions about Sony/RCA, but I was hopeful UMG/Interscope wouldn’t adopt the same moronic schemes.

  • OffLeash

    I’m well aware of the crappy songs problems with Idol albums under Sony. I was however hoping UMG/Interscope would be smarter about it. Apparently not. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I also thought Jimmy/Interscope might do a better job. At least the last two winners got pretty good to amazing coronation songs.

  • OffLeash

    True, but if they follow up with some pop lite or country lite dreck, it’ll be back to square one for them. Sigh. Scotty might be luckier since he’s country. Unless they also hire the same country songwriters for country Idols too. I wouldn’t know, I don’t follow country.

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Other than the coronation single, all of Scotty’s songwriters for the first album were recognized country songwriters.  So far, for the 2nd album, all we know is that he’s co-writing with other well-known country songwriters.  So, not the same people…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Weakend sales predictions from HDD:

    AND NOW, YOUR TOP 15: This week’s top debut, Meek Mill, seems to have been impacted the hardest by this week’s storms, flooding and power outages in the Northeast. While most of the other titles are falling in line with expectations, Mill, whose base has been heaviest in the New York/Philadelphia areas, seems to be coming in considerably below earlier forecasts. His projection today has dropped nearly 10%
    over what the numbers suggested yesterday. In addition, Meek’s digital share may be substantially higher than comparable first week titles indicating consumers on the East Coast are more focused on getting their power back on and back to work rather than buying new releases. Here’s how it looks headed into the weekend:

    Taylor Swift (Big Machine) 325-340k
    * Meek Mill (Maybach/Warner Bros.) 165-180k
    * Rod Stewart (Verve) 75-80k
    Kendrick Lamar (Aftermath/Interscope) 65-70k
    Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 65-70k
    * Toby Keith (Show Dog) 45-50k
    Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 40-45k
    * Neil Young & Crazy Horse (Reprise) 30-35k
    * Trans Siberian Orchestra (Lava/Republic) 24-27k
    Pink (RCA) 20-23k
    Little Big Town (Capitol Nashville) 18-21k
    Tony Bennett (Columbia) 17-20k
    Lady Antebellum (Capitol Nashville) 17-20k
    * Flyleaf (A&M/Octone) 17-20k
    Carrie Underwood (19/Arista Nashville) 15-18k

    * Debuts

    Here’s hoping for as rapid a return to normal as possible on the East Coast. (11/1p)

  • OffLeash

    Good for Scotty. Good thing those Brits aren’t into country or they’d have cut a deal with a British songwriter too a few years back lmao.

  • OffLeash

    Taylor might go 2x platinum in a couple weeks with those figures.

  • standtotheright

    still think there must be some unofficial financial benefit behind this cooperation, even if nobody brags about it.

    All people in the industry do is talk about themselves. This strikes me as improbable.

    But there’s another possibility that no one has really articulated: PDs have years of AI singles history to draw upon. They’ve been served up more-or-less “safe” singles for a number of years by labels who want to slot AI alumni into HAC/less dance-heavy CHR, country, or (more rarely of late) UAC, for as long as they can capture the attention of flighty AI fans.

    It may well be that PDs pick the apparently “bland/generic” singles because they assume that’s what AI fan listeners want for the short time the fans are tuning in to those radio stations, and that the stations don’t need to take any risks with more interesting songs since they’ll be moving on in a quarter or two anyway.

    Which would allow the labels to do due diligence in advance presentation and station testing while having that approach actually work against them.

    I find that a lot easier to believe than that some UK writer without a major hit to his name had the leverage to demand a backroom deal when many other regular “AI cowriters” have better track records.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Taylor has already shipped 2xplatinum.

  • Anny_nanny

    We can beat me, but I speak.
    I’m afraid to get Adam 2.0. Three years ago I was waiting the release of the first album, I’m waiting for something extraordinary. The album, which did not even bought except for a couple of songs – end. Yes, the album is quite good, but that’s not what I was expecting. And now to my horror I expect to see the album, which two years ago was to release Lee. With a couple of songs from Phillip. I don’t want to Phillip lived that failed to make Lee, I want the album from P2. And I have no problems if it will be a little DMB-ish. And I don’t care how it will be sold – let it be a headache at Jimmy. I only want to get what I came in the 11th season in this January – jazz and blues, not folk, country and pop.
    Again, sorry for my bad English. And I don’t want to offend the fans of Adam – Adam is well and I’m happy for him.

  • OffLeash

    That was maybe valid a few seasons back, but Idol sales aren’t what they used to be, and they must have noticed it as well…

    If the deal is embarrassingly low paid for the songwriter, I wouldn’t brag about it either. It makes for a reliable source of income, but charging real cheap for your songs might not be something you want to add to your resume, idk.

  • OffLeash

    Shipped 2x platinum for sure, ITA. Actually selling 2x platinum should happen within 2 weeks looks like.

  • standtotheright

    Pronoun clarification? Which “they”? If it’s the PDs, we’re not really disagreeing. If the sales aren’t what they used to be, then they give a single some moderate/minor spins during the early part of the release cycle and then move on.

    As for songwriter payments, only fairly in-demand songwriters can charge a rate for sessions beyond any potential royalties from placed songs. That’s just given. Otherwise, whether they are working with AI fans or other songwriters who want to cowrite, the writers who have less of a track record won’t be able to ask for the big session fees, and that would be generally known without “saying” so.

  • OffLeash

    Were you able to listen to the snippets? And if so, what do you think of the album?

  • OffLeash

    “they” = PDs

  • Anny_nanny

    to OffLeash:
    I wouldn’t be writing this if it were not heard GGG and SE. No, this is a good song. And I would be happy if they would have become Lee’s debut.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “(and of course, it was necessary to have a P2 cowrite if there’s to be another try at AAA, which ruled out GGG).”

    Do you mean that P2 “got a pass” for “Home” since it wasn’t written by him, but is doing very well on the AAA chart?

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Do you mean that P2 “got a pass” for “Home” since it wasn’t written by him, but is doing very well on the AAA chart?

    Yuppers. Something about P2′s rendition of Home is so friggin’ undeniable that it short-circuited even the AAA preference for self-written songs. But getting a second AAA hit by singing a song he didn’t write is extremely, amazingly, incredibly unlikely. That he got the pass for one song is amazing.

    Also, P2′s been pitched to us-the-public as a songwriter of great authenticity, toting his worn acoustic guitar on his back as he walks the dusty highways. Interscope has probably learned from RCA’s foolishness that if one’s attempting to promote a guitar-toting songwriter, the story’s a lot more plausible if he’s named as a writer on the single.

  • girlygirltoo

    There are a boatload of songwriters who have worked with multiple ex-Idols. Jon Green isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. Sometimes the songs they write are quite good, other times they are awful. I wouldn’t dismiss someone just because of who he’s worked with in the past or because some of the songs he (or she) is credited on aren’t great.

    Most songwriters do not have the luxury of turning down potential collaborations. There are a ton of songwriters out there and not that many chances to get a cut on an album. If you are asked to collaborate with XYZ artist, 99.9% of the time, you are going to do it, and hope that the collaboration results in something at least solid, preferrably something great.

    Likewise, Phillip isn’t at the point in his career where he gets to say who he will or won’t work with. If his label and/or management sets up writing sessions for him with songwriter XYZ, he has to go to that session. 

  • girlygirltoo

    Maybe so, but not every song on Scotty’s album is great. Recognized songwriters can write mediocre to bad songs, too. I would bet you that most every big time songwriter can probably rattle off several songs that they got cut that they think aren’t any good.

  • girlygirltoo

    Scotty’s coronation song was cheesy. When people heard it, a lot of people on this board hated it. Just because it sold well doesn’t mean it was good.

  • OffLeash

    Judging from the snippet, that song Jon Green wrote with/for P2 and that Interscope is threatening to release as the second single is bad IMO, and that’s in the present. I’m not familiar with any other song he wrote, but nobody’s mentioned a good “Idol” song from him yet, so for now it doesn’t sound like he wrote anything swoon worthy for the alums.

  • girlygirltoo

    Can someone tell me which song is getting the remix with Drake on it — is it “Home” or the supposed 2nd single?

  • Chris

    I think ILYTB only sold well because of the deep fan love for Scotty. 

    In fact, when I sing it now, its to torture my daughter when she says “Mom, do you love me?”  I sing in my worst Scotty impression, “I love you this big, eyes have never seen, this big, no one’s ever dreamed, this big..”  Then she runs away screaming, make it stop.  :-)

  • girlygirltoo

    MEDIABASE MONITORED RADIO ADDS – ALL FORMATS – 52.8% REPORTED IN

    I believe this is the first time Leroy Bell has shown up on this chart since he was on XF last season… (but don’t quote me :)   )

    29 –  Kelly Clarkson – Catch My Breath
    20 –  Nicki Minaj – Va Va Voom
    8   –  Phillip Phillips (4 AC, 3 CHR, 1 HAC)
    7   –  Justin Bieber f/ Nicki Minaj – Beauty and a Beat
    5   –  Kelly Clarkson f/ Vince Gill – Don’t Rush
    5   –  Lauren Alaina – Eighteen Inches
    5   –  Owl City & Carly Rae Jepsen – Good Time
    4   –  Maroon 5 – One More Night
    3   –  Carly Rae Jepsen – This Kiss
    2   –  Carrie Underwood – Blown Away
    2   –  Cher Lloyd f/ Becky G – Oath
    2   –  Chris Mann – Roads
    1   –  Daughtry – Start of Something Good
    1   –  Colton Dixon – You Are
    1   –  Casey Abrams – Simple Life
    1   –  Kristy Lee Cook – Airborne Ranger Infantry
    1   –  Leroy Bell – One More Chance
    1   –  Vicci Martinez f/ CeeLo Green – Come Along
    1   –  Demi Lovato – Give Your Heart A Break
    1   –  Blake Shelton – Time for Me to Come Home
    1   –  Blake Shelton – Santa’s Got a Choo Choo Train
    1   –  Blake Shelton f/ Miranda Lambert – Jingle Bell Rock

    NOTE: The Band Perry leads all artists in monitored adds so far this week, with 89 for their new single, “Better Dig Two”

  • jpfan2

    One of P2′s songs is getting a remix with Drake! I find that kind of hard to believe. Unless some station or fan is doing a mash up.

  • girlygirltoo

    It’s supposed to be a legit remix, not a radio station or fan thing. Just not sure what song it is on

  • OffLeash

    I’d read somewhere P2′s gf had denied it was true, but I checked her twitter, and couldn’t find the tweet. So idk, but it sounds totally improbable. My guess is someone spread that rumor as a joke and it’s getting legs. 

    ETA: I did a google search, and I found it:

    Pam S ?@burnbabyburn07@HannahBlackwell is it true that phillip collaborated with drake?

    Hannah Blackwell @HannahBlackwell@burnbabyburn07 I’ve definitely not heard that ever ha

    http://twitter.com/HannahBlackwell/status/263869142661206016

  • girlygirltoo

    But Phillip doesn’t have to collaborate with Drake for the song to be remixed. All they have to do is get Drake in a studio somewhere and add his vocal to the remixed track. Phillip never even has to meet or talk to him (that’s what happened when RCA stuck Pat Monahan on the radio edit of The Truth — Kris didn’t actually meet him until months later).

  • OffLeash

    Wouldn’t P2 know about it though? 

  • 1rollbounce2

    hey …i have a question that has probably been discussed at some time or another in the last 6 years on mjs….but, I’m puttin it out here anyway.  How does this whole “ship” thing work now with the magical download?  is there an estimate as to how many years it will be till the whole shipped thing isn’t a factor?  the extinction of cds?  

  • jpfan2

    Where does the Drake story  come from?

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    I think it was more because Scotty sold the song really, really well.

  • elliegrll

    UK mix used to post the Billboard chart that just dealt with physical cds.  You can probably still find the one from three weeks ago on that board.  Based on those figures, and the current percentage split between physical and digital albums, I don’t think that physical cds are going to go extinct anytime soon.

  • elliegrll

    This isn’t idol related, but we talk about age discrimination at radio all of the time, so I thought it was interesting to note that the same thing is happening in the UK.  Digital Spy reported that Radio One won’t play Robbie Williams new song, because they think that he is too old for their audience.  One of the djs even admitted that it’s because he is no longer relevant to a younger audience.  Not even Take That’s amazing success last year, or Williams having the best selling single in the country is going to get them to change their minds.

  • http://twitter.com/bbmetsfan andy

    I think Home may have the legs to become the top selling Idol single.

  • Kirsten

     

    I think Home may have the legs to become the top selling Idol single.

    It could, but it has a long way to go.

    “Call Me Maybe” currently holds the record at over 6M sold. It is only the second song in digital history to sell that many (Goyte’s “Somebody I Used to Know” is the other). Doubling the difficulty, it was a co-write by Carly Rae Jepsen.

    Next up (and if you don’t count Canadian Idols), is Kelly Clarkson’s “Stronger” coming up on 4M sold followed by Carrie Underwood’s “Before He Cheats” at over 3.5M. Jordin Sparks’s “No Air” is almost at 3.5M sold.

    “Home” is the best selling coronation single.

  • DB987

    Good day of adds for Lauren. 18 inches  hung tough without adds for 5 weeks and no video. These are 5 big stations that she got today Seattle,Boston,Nashville, Columbus and Cleveland potential for big AI’s from this group. Mercury also had a full page aircheck add last week also so it appears they are again interested in pushing this song.

  • sdmama

    How can you “ship” a digital song without “selling” it? It is not like you can stock them in virtual store.
    Was there a physical single that somebody can buy from a store?  I am baffled by this.

  • OffLeash

    HDD’s predictions are for albums. Unless Taylor’s album is only available digitally, which would be news to me, people can buy the physical album.

  • maymay

    Where We Came From is available on iTunes. And you can preorder PP`s album.

  • dd999

    Everyone has taste in music, gotta say I loved Scotty’s song ‘I Love You This Big’ from the first time he sang it. Nearly 10M views on u-tube, from those who can relate to this song…. its been sung at many a wedding, girlfriend-boyfriend claim it as there song, Mother, grandmother love to play it to their kids. its even been sent from a soldier who sang and recorded it himself to his loved one. 

  • lufausljc

    Now that people can pre order Phillip’s album on iTunes, its charting will give a better perspective on how well he will debut. Hopefully the pre order gets a banner on iTunes so it can fuel more interest.

  • girlygirltoo

    That’s so stupid — he’s freaking 38 years old, not 100. He’s all of one year older than Enrique Iglesias and 3 years older than Chris Martin and he’s younger than Eminem or Jay-Z or anyone in Radiohead or U2 (to name just a few examples). Does Radio One not play those artists either?

    But since Robbie’s single has hit #1, I guess it hasn’t mattered that Radio One won’t play him.

  • elliegrll

    Robbie isn’t upset about it.  http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a435992/robbie-williams-reacts-to-nick-grimshaw-radio-1-better-not-play-madonna.html

    As Robbie said, Radio One is trying to appeal to 17-24 year olds, and that’s not a group that is going to support his music.  It’s the same here.  There are some idol alums who have been compared to Robbie, but who are a few years younger, and they are facing the same situation with US radio, the image and age are just two things that aren’t going to appeal to younger listeners.

  • LongKissGoodnight

    And I am very happy to report that Phillip just toped the on AAA chart. Definitely first and  possibly the only AI contestant to do so in all of decade long history of the show.
    It will be official by Sunday, but there is not anyone in sight who can dethrone him, so we might as well start celebrating.
    Go Phillip!
    Next stop is HAC #1!
    ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Kris wasn’t with RCA when LLWD became a hit. He was with Jive who did not promote.

  • elliegrll

    Jive promoted LLWD.  Z100 picking the song up at the beginning, and then playing it like every two hours during the first five days or so didn’t happen for free.  Kris was also doing a boatload of radio visits at that time, and showcases in LA.  Those weren’t cheap either.   Jives job was to promote the song to radio, which they did.  It was 19, and to some extent Kris’, job to promote Kris, and to use the song to bring more attention to him.