Idol Headlines for 06/12/11

Today’s Idol Appearances

  • Bo Bice plays the Lays Stage at the CMA music fest.
  • Katie Stevens performs in Hillsborough NJ to support the Salaine Cares Memorial Fund. More information HERE.
  • Paris Bennett performs at the “Northside: A Twin Cities Community Benefit,” at the State Theatre in downtown Minneapolis. More information HERE
  • Taylor Hicks and Ruben Studdard perform a free concert at Linn Park in Birmingham, AL. 6 pm. Bring canned goods for food banks to support Tornado survivors.

CMA Music Fest: Rascal Flatts, Martina McBride give LP Field crowd a thrill

8:19 p.m. — Danny Gokey joined Gildan Activewear onstage to accept a plaque certifying the company’s Guiness Book World Record for the world’s largest T-shirt. The item in question was more than 280 feet long, and was unveiled during CMA Week with Gokey’s help.

When American Idol winner Scotty McCreery emerged to sing “Your Man” with Turner, the crowd erupted into cheers normally reserved for the genre’s top headliners. He and Turner swapped verses, and every time McCreery started to sing the applause kicked in again.

“I love it because these young people are continuing to wave that country music flag out in Hollywood,” Turner told the crowd after McCreery left the stage. “And isn’t that why we’re all here?”

A few minutes later, McBride addressed fans again, telling the crowd how she had heard there was a girl on American Idol who covered her songs.

“I was working and couldn’t watch, but I looked it up on YouTube and was blown away,” she recalled. “I thought, ‘I wish I could get that girl here to sing with me.” Cue Idol runner-up Lauren Alaina.

The young singer emerged to perform “Anyway,”

Read more at Tennessean.com

Taylor Hicks returns to Birmingham for Bama Rising, plus weekend concert in Linn Park

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — When trees topple and houses splinter, tornado survivors are slow to forget the damages done to their neighborhoods.

Taylor Hicks says his family members were no different after they experienced a 1973 tornado in Center Point.

“This is not something you get over,” Hicks says. “I’ve heard my family discuss how the landscape where they lived was changed forever.”

Read more at AL.com

The Voices’ Nakia runs into Casey Abrams at the Grocery Store!

@Nakia tweeted this photo yesterday. “Ha! I just bumped into @CAbramsAI10 at the grocery store.”  RANDOM!

 

‘American Idol’ finalist Matt Giraud brings show to Meijer Gardens

GRAND RAPIDS — If musicians had sick days, Matt Giraud might have taken one on the day he talked to The Press.

Giraud had dental work done the day before the interview about an appearance at Frederik Meijer Gardens & Sculpture Park, where he will perform a show on Thursday.

“I’ll pop a couple of ibuprofens, and I’ll be all right,” he said. “(Being a musician) is not like a normal job, in mostly good ways. Once all the business stuff is done, I can focus on my music.”

Read more at MLive

J-Lo-cut! Jennifer Lopez leaves little to the imagination on So You Think You Can Dance in skintight spangled catsuit

It wasn’t only the finalists who were left breathless on the So You Think You Can Dance live final on BBC1 tonight.

Viewers at home were left gasping when Jennifer Lopez gave a sizzling live performance in a glittery catsuit that was so lowcut is showed off her bra – and so tight it revealed every inch of her famous rear.

The 41-year-old star was performing her recent No. 1 single On The Floor on the show, ahead of her appearance tomorrow on the bill at Capital Radio’s Summertime Ball.

Read more at the Daily Mail

J.Lo, Tyler cash in on ‘Idol’

Every year the producers of American Idol pride themselves on how they’re giving aspiring young singers the break of a lifetime, and a revamped Season 10 was no exception.

So whose career will reap the biggest benefit from all the Idolatry? Scotty McCreery? Lauren Alaina?

Try J.Lo. and Steven Tyler.

Read more at Canoe

How Lady Gaga’s 99-cent ‘Born This Way’ Sale Hurt Interscope, Distributors

For the cost of $3.3 million-that is, $8.40 wholesale minus 99 cents retail times 443,000 scans during the two-day sale-Amazon put itself on the map as a digital music merchant, in a way that the same amount of money spent on traditional advertising could never have bought.

But whether the sale helps Interscope remains to be seen. First, Interscope and Universal Music Group Distribution (UMGD) shipped 2.1 million album units before street date. If they knew in advance of Amazon’s sale, you can bet they would’ve cut back on the initial CD allotment.

As is, Interscope has an inventory liability, with some merchants saying they need to return product. And if some of that talk comes from a few retail accounts being miffed over the Amazon deal, some is also due to simple math. The CD album sold 449,000 units of the 2.1 million shipped, for a 21.4 percent sell-through. Second-week sales are at 174,000 units (136,000 CDs), or 27.8 percent sell-through.

Read more at the Hollywood Reporter

  • kvwicks13

    The photo of Casey and Nakia is funny!

  • kmd

    Love the pic of Nakia and Casey. They are two of my favorites. Can’t wait to see Nakia on The Voice. That article above got it right that J.Lo and Steven Tyler career’s benefited the most from AI this year. They did profit more from the show than the idol contestants will.

  • Buffynut

    Wow, Gaga article is so interesting. I had never really thought about the fact that other distributors would be stuck with physical albums. I think Interscope shipping 2 million confirms that they knew nothing about the Amazon deal (to those who were skeptical.)

  • kvwicks13

    Funny article above about JLO and Steven Tyler reaping the best benefits from idol rather than the winner and runner up!

  • artemis

    It seems JLo and Steven are the real winners of Season10. Remember when Paula was mocked and criticized for trying to revive her performing career by debuting her single on Idol? Those days are gone.
    I like JLo but I saw more than enough of her on Idol this year-her finale appearance was overkill, IMO, but she’s sure revived her career.
    Steven, on the other hand-I can’t get enough of him and I did buy his single.
    Seems kind of unfair to take the spotlight away from the Idolettes, though.

  • halo9125

    Wow, Gaga article is so interesting. I had never really thought about the fact that other distributors would be stuck with physical albums.

    I got my “Born This Way” download free with a $25 Zynga (yes- I admit it- I’m a Farmville addict, it’s my dirty little secret!) card at Best Buy. Granted, I’m sure Zynga and Interscope had a deal for this- but I’m sure it was yet ANOTHER way sales of physical albums were hurt.

  • steph6449

    Enjoyed the article with Matt Giraud. Interesting what he had to say about being tethered to CAA his first year out from AI, I guess that would be the case for all the finalists?

  • Trina

    The careers of the winner and runner-up haven’t even really begun yet, they’ve been out of the Idol bubble less than 3 weeks. But they sure are off to an amazing start. Not sure yet how much they’ll be reaping, but I bet it will be lots. JLo and Steven got their promo on the show, but now I doubt anything they got or future promo will impact the Idols who will have albums out in the next few months. Interscope/Mercury/19 will want to promote to the max the ones theyre banking on making them money.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Enjoyed the article with Matt Giraud. Interesting what he had to say about being tethered to CAA his first year out from AI, I guess that would be the case for all the finalists?

    Wouldn’t that only apply to those contestants who didn’t get signed by 19M that don’t have their own management & representation?

  • girlygirl

    Nope. CAA is a talent agency. 19 is a management company. By law, 19 M is not allowed to book any concert dates, tours etc. Those have to be done by licensed agents. CAA also has far more connections in terms of getting clients tv/movie roles than 19 would.

  • Indigobunting

    Lol, for the fun that was made of Danny’s tshirt appearance, he sure seemed to get a lot of media out of it, including the LP field presentation.

    Pictures from WSM (Opry radio station)

    http://www.955fmwsm.com/PHOTOSVIDEOS/tabid/333/Default.aspx

    Coverage from GACTV here:

    http://my.gactv.com/cma-music-festival-photos/2011/gallery.esi?page=6

    I’m sure there are plenty of pics there from other Idols too; if anyone wants to look through all 42 pages, lol.

    “With the record confirmed onstage at the Saturday night LP Field concerts, work will soon begin to transform it into 12,000 human-sized shirts, all of which will be donated to Metro Nashville Schools through Keep the Music Playing. Danny Gokey participated in both the Centennial Park and LP Field events.”

    http://blog.cmafest.com/2011/06/12/gildan-redefines-plus-size-for-t-shirts/

    Steph, that was a nice article on Matt Giraud. I hope he sets up gigs in other states more frequently now; we know he travels to CA and frequently to Nashville (either to write or visit Danny) so he should start arranging some appearances there.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Nope. CAA is a talent agency. 19 is a management company.

    Thanks GG. Too many levels in this game.

  • steph6449

    Wouldn’t that only apply to those contestants who didn’t get signed by 19M that don’t have their own management & representation?

    Have to say, I’m not completely sure of the difference between management and what CAA does. CAA seems to be more booking, and it seems to the little I have looked, lol, that artists may have a management company (19M or otherwise), and have CAA. Carrie, Kris and Adam are all with 19M? But are listed as CAA clients for touring (caatouring.com), as are AI alums not managed by 19 like Kellie, Danny, Crystal, and others.

    It just struck me interesting for the unsigned finalists, particularly, how Matt depicted the post-AI Tour CAA relationship as impeding his efforts to pursue music post-AI.

    ETA: thanks for the clarification for mgmt co. vs. booking. lol.

  • girlygirl

    I love Matt G, but sometimes I wonder about why he doesn’t perform outside the state of Michigan, except for the occasional gig in Nashville. By now, I would have thought he would have put together some sort of small tour. By not having an album out and not performing outside of his home state, it just seems like his fanbase will be really limited.

    But then again, maybe he’s happy just doing what he’s doing and doesn’t want to deal with all the hassles of touring, etc. I don’t know…I hjave a hard time figuring out exactly what he’s trying to do with his career.

  • Indigobunting

    If you click on the Tennessean article above MJ posted there is a very nice showcase picture of Martina McBride and Lauren Alaina

  • EmmaCT

    I am always so pleased when any AI contestant succeeds and can use the so-rare opening AI provides (Haley Reinhart called it something like “Star Camp” – so true!). But because of the early singling out of favorites (this year especially) I find myself looking for news on all the runners-up – even my little handful of votes throughout the season contributed to their being given an opportunity! Can’t wait until the other 9 finalists (acknowledging that Pia has had a head start) get the opportunity to break out. The AI tour will be very important to so many of them – I think it’s where they get the chance to shine and learn more about performing…

  • steph6449

    It does seem funny that with all the recording Matt has done post-AI ( and wasn’t he tweeting about taping a music video in Nashville a while ago? ) he hasn’t put out any new music yet except the duets released by other artists.

    Not even a small EP on iTunes, for which he must have a lot of material by now. Maybe he is still working out his sound and wants to wait before committing his name and money behind an indie effort.

  • Elliegrll

    Nope. CAA is a talent agency. 19 is a management company. By law, 19 M is not allowed to book any concert dates, tours etc. Those have to be done by licensed agents. CAA also has far more connections in terms of getting clients tv/movie roles than 19 would.

    I don’t think that CAA does any of the actual foot work though. I don’t think they contact people asking if they want to book any of the former contestants. Some of the idol contestants have complained about CAA, saying that they weren’t booked for gigs, even though they asked the people who wanted them to contact CAA. There was even one former contestant who claimed that calls to CAA were ignored, but he was pretty bitter, so I don’t know if he can be believed.

    It just struck me interesting for the unsigned finalists, particularly, how Matt depicted the post-AI Tour CAA relationship as impeding his efforts to pursue music post-AI.

    This has been the impression that I’ve gotten from a few of the previous contestants. It seems like CAA won’t okay some gigs, and some of the idols might be under the misconception that CAA will actually go out and get opportunities for them.

  • caroleinfla

    You just gotta love Ruben and Taylor for doing so much for their home state. I wish I lived close enough to see the show today and the one tomorrow.
    Thanks mj.

  • girlygirl

    well, I don’t know how it works in regards to the Idol contestants who are tied to CAA but don’t have recording and/or management deals, but in general it IS CAA’s job to go out and find venues that want to book the artists on their roster, and/or to find tours to book them on . CAA’s booking agents are responsible for a portion of the country (Northeast, West, etc) and they are in constant contact with the venues in their area of responsibility to try and book their acts in these venues.

    Now, in some instances, the promoters come to the agents or managers asking about booking artists. And in some cases the artist himself and/or his/her manager may make the initial contact with the venue and/or and then hand it over to the agent to close the deal. But that’s more common with artists that are just starting out — the bigger the name, the more likely it is that the agency would do all the legwork.

    I do wonder if CAA asks for too big of a guarantee for some of these kids? For instance, a promoter isn’t likely to book an artist who will get a $25,000 guarantee if there is basically no chance the promoter will make money on the gig. It’s pretty hard for a promoter to make money booking, say, a 1,000-seat venue if he books someone who is getting a guarantee that is bigger than the venue can legitimately cover. If they don’t have a decent possibility of making money off these gigs, promoters/venues won’t book them.

    I wonder about the guarantees because someone tweeted a venue asking about the possibility of booking Kris, and the venue replied that the amount of money Kris gets (or his agent asks for, anyway) as a guarantee is too much for that venue to afford (the venue actually tweeted the amount, which was really stupid — but if it’s true, Kris is doing ok for himself :) ). If CAA isn’t flexible in its negotiating, I can see Matt and/or other Idols losing gigs because of it.

  • larc

    artemis says:
    It seems JLo and Steven are the real winners of Season10.

    As it turns out, they didn’t bring much to the table, IMO. They along with Randy provided some of the most useless moments in S10. Idol could have saved a lot of money by getting highly qualified judges who were more interested in doing an effective job than in advancing their own faltering careers. I hope all 3 are long gone when S11 rolls around.

  • RightNow

    I have always loved Matt G. But Matt didn’t always have confidence in himself. And he will limit himself by just playing gigs around Michigan. Anoop finally ended up moving to Atlanta, after a stint in LA, then going back to North Carolina. And Michael Sarver will need to be in Nashville if expects to launch a serious Country music career. Not sure what Scott MacIntyre is up too?

    Both Anoop and Michael have talked about their struggles in the industry post Idol.

    I had initially started following these guys and Danny on Twitter right after Season 8 (before Adam and Kris signed on). They were all a scream together – the ring leaders of all the fun stuff on the tour.

  • ross

    I love Matt G, but sometimes I wonder about why he doesn’t perform outside the state of Michigan, except for the occasional gig in Nashville. By now, I would have thought he would have put together some sort of small tour. By not having an album out and not performing outside of his home state, it just seems like his fanbase will be really limited.

    But then again, maybe he’s happy just doing what he’s doing and doesn’t want to deal with all the hassles of touring, etc. I don’t know…I hjave a hard time figuring out exactly what he’s trying to do with his career.

    Have you considered the money involved? I’d say he’s working where he lives because that’s affordable for him right now. I’m not sure how he would bankroll a tour. He’s not signed, wouldn’t be touring in support of a record.

    There are hotels and motels, and gas money, assuming he’s driving himself. He’s not going to have a tour bus, or be flying, or riding in limos.

    He’s not an acoustic guitar player, he’s a piano player, so he needs some equipment. Keyboards, if the venue doesn’t have a piano. I don’t know if he’d need a crew, or an accompanist.

    When you figure it all, it takes a lot of money. You have to be somewhat assured of recouping it. I don’t know what the gigs would pay, but it can’t be enough. He’s not a big name, has no recognition outside Idol, no music on mainstream radio. At best he’d be playing bars and small clubs.

    I assume this is also why Siobhan and others have stayed close to home. They live there – they don’t have to play travel expenses. Also, forgetting Idol for the moment, I believe that in music it’s usually considered good sense to build a local fan base first.

    The only other thing is to get on some kind of tour with a lot of other artists – like other ex-idols have done when they’ve toured together.

  • Elliegrll

    Also, forgetting Idol for the moment, I believe that in music it’s usually considered good sense to build a local fan base first.

    This has been the advice that many industry veterans have given to independent artists. I do agree with the idea that it seems like Matt needs to have more confidence in himself, and that building up a local fanbase doesn’t have to mean just playing gigs in Michigan. I also think that he’s still trying to define his sound.

    well, I don’t know how it works in regards to the Idol contestants who are tied to CAA but don’t have recording and/or management deals, but in general it IS CAA’s job to go out and find venues that want to book the artists on their roster, and/or to find tours to book them on .

    This is what they are supposed to do, but I can understand why they don’t, when they have forty new people a year who sign with them because they are going to be on AI.

    It does seem like the rules have changed this year, because so many of this year’s contestants found work throughout the season, and a couple released some music.

  • steph6449

    I wonder about the guarantees because someone tweeted a venue asking about the possibility of booking Kris, and the venue replied that the amount of money Kris gets (or his agent asks for, anyway) as a guarantee is too much for that venue to afford (the venue actually tweeted the amount, which was really stupid — but if it’s true, Kris is doing ok for himself :).

    Lol. I have heard the same for Danny, that his appearance fee is rather nice and sometimes it doesn’t work for certain venues. Not sure who sets the appearance fee, my impression has been it is the label. If you have to have a problem, this one seems like a good problem to have :)

    Have you considered the money involved? Just offhand, I’d say he’s [Matt] working where he lives because that’s affordable for him right now. I’m not sure how he would be bankroll a tour. He’s not signed, he wouldn’t be touring in support of a record.

    Mmm, maybe. But I’d give Scott MacIntyre, who presumably has a much much smaller fanbase, as an example of another S8 AI alum who’s gotten himself out there to do performances well outside his home base. Plus released his music independently, with a couple of the songs charting at least mildly, and signing up with a speaker’s bureau and pursuing a book deal, I think. The dates Scott tweets about usually seem to be pretty good quality. Fundraising benefits and things like that. For one of them recently, he was tweeting how the venue was paying to ship his piano out for him which I thought was interesting. I think Matt could do those kinds of appearances well. I have a harder time seeing that with someone like Siobhan given the image and musical choices she is making.

    Matt has done well with the duets, but it is hard to say how he is leveraging that to put out his own music or do touring. It would be nice if he could get some dates opening for other artists, or some other options to get his name out there more. I’m not sure what genre however, that still seems rather confusing in Matt’s case.

  • girlygirl

    I understand the money issues. But that’s the case with most artists starting out, and yet a lot of them still find a way to tour. In fact, that’s how a lot of them end up with record deals — by going out on the road and performing hundreds of gigs, driving around the country in crappy vans and sleeping four to a motel room, building up a fan base and developing their sound, and attracting the attention of a label and/or a manager. It’s the time-honored tradition. And even with the internet making it easier for people to discover your music, these old rules still apply in a lot of ways :)

    If Matt wants to stay in Michigan and just play gigs there, well, that’s up to him. Whatever makes him happy. I guess I was just expecting more from him by now, since he was so popular on the show and his live performances on the AI tour won raves. I really thought he’d have an album out by now, even if he just released it himself, like with what Anoop has done.

    But, like I say, whatever makes him happy

  • ross

    I sometimes follow the career of a guy who’s the lead singer for a band that has been fairly well known and has played on tours with bands like We The Kings, Metro Station, Forever the Sickest Kids, and The Maine. The band has had a CD and is in the process of doing another one. They have a lot of fans. Yet, in between gigs, the guy has still had to make money, delivering fast food, and selling some of his art work. And still lives at home.

    So I think it’s nice to dream, but the reality is it’s very hard to make a living in the music business. It’s easy to sit back and say what other people should do, but the reality is that it’s very difficult for them to do some of this stuff. If they’re getting anywhere at all and haven’t given up, yet, that in itself is a plus.

  • girlygirl

    True. I think the goal for most of them is simply to make a living in the business so they don’t have to have a day job. Anything more than that really is gravy.

  • Kirsten

    YAY – maybe we will start to get some leaks from tour rehearsals on songs, pairings, etc., which is always fun.

    I pinched this from another thread because I thought the response would be more relevant here.

    Paul continues to be our most spoilerific Idol (for that alone he deserves to have made the tour). He has tweeted some picture including this one: http://touch.lockerz.com/s/109243813

    From it, it looks like Dave is in charge of the tour band yet again and Casey is bringing his stand-up bass. Not much, but it is a start.

  • steph6449

    It’s easy to sit back and say what other people should do, but the reality is that it’s very difficult for them to do some of this stuff. If they’re getting anywhere at all and haven’t given up, yet, that in itself is a plus.

    True, but most up and coming artists don’t have national name recognition, and some capital to work with (i.e., decent payout from the AI tour available as seed money for indie projects).

    Matt has been making good connections, but they don’t seem to be leading anywhere very obvious. It’s just frustrating as he seems to have a lot of potential if he could find the right place for himself. What he’s done so far seems very scattered to me.

  • ross

    I understand the money issues. But that’s the case with most artists starting out, and yet a lot of them still find a way to tour. In fact, that’s how a lot of them end up with record deals — by going out on the road and performing hundreds of gigs, driving around the country in crappy vans and sleeping four to a motel room, building up a fan base and developing their sound, and attracting the attention of a label and/or a manager.

    I assume you were talking about bands. Four to a motel room, etc. (By the way, even bands who have major label contracts and hit singles sometimes have to tour in vans and sleep four to a motel room.)

    With a band, they’re all hoping to share in the profits and eventual success. But if it’s a solo artist and his band, I’m not sure the same loyalty exists. Rather than splitting profits (if any) – or hoping for success, “some day” – wouldn’t they have to expect him to pay them? After all, he’s the star, they aren’t. So, I think it’s a different situation.

    I think once someone has been a finalist on Idol, they’re not starting out at the bottom any more, and they’re probably hoping they can use that to avoid some of the rock-bottom stuff. In order to capitalize on their Idol image they actually might have to appear to be somewhat successful, or risk looking like a post-idol flop, playing dives – which might be worse for their image than doing nothing.

    I think it’s a kind of middle ground. If they can, they should work on getting some decent-looking gigs. For Matt, for instance, all his gigs have been high-class, even if they haven’t been huge deals.

    Ultimately I think the reality of the situation dictates he live near home right now, use the good will he’s accumulated as a local musician, and an Idol finalist – meanwhile going to Nashville or LA to write or record (I think he’s done this) – and I assume he has an agent who is trying to line up gigs for him and deals for him.

    But I’m not sure touring as an unknown in crummy bars – just to be touring – is the way to go. He may be able to get farther doing what he’s doing that getting known to audiences of 100 people in small bars.

    Sorry for rambling, I just felt like making a few separate points, I guess :)

  • Tess

    After Idol success is largely 10% talent, 20% connections, 20% hard work and 50% just plain old luck…and it doesn’t matter if you finished first or 24th. Idol’s machine, even for top place finishers, can’t guarantee a successful life after idol and for this, below the top tier idolettes, the Idol brand, though impressive to some, doesn’t hold enough weight to guarantee the connections nor does it balance in the luck factor.

    I am sure that there are a few idolette alumni that truly believe that they weren’t given a clear shot once the program was over and they are going to interpret their struggles as being the interference of “big brother”. But for me, the bottom line is all about timing and luck. It’s like: would JHud even have a lucrative singing career if she hadn’t auditioned for and won the role of Eppie in DreamGirls. Without that, she would still be a struggling artist (and probably still a size 16).

  • wonderings

    If Matt wants to stay in Michigan and just play gigs there, well, that’s up to him.

    There’s the perception that Matt’s playing all over Michigan, but I don’t think this is the case. I really liked Matt on Idol and I LOVED several of his studio recordings. I live in Michigan and was hoping to catch him play here. Most of his gigs tend to be in the west of the state; Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids. I don’t think he’s played in the Detroit Metro area or Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti; a bit surprising since he grew up around Ypsi?

    Keeping my eyes open for a Matt gig over thisaways (which happens to be where a good portion of the state’s population lives) but I’m not holding my breath.

  • suenigma

    Excellent points Tess, but sadly Im not even convinced that JHud has a LUCRATIVE singing career right now. Touring is where the money is, and I understand that she had to cancel her latest tour. Fortunately she is probably raking it in for her acting and endorsement deals, and she has the respect of the music industry, if not the buying interest of the general public.

  • Elliegrll

    True, but most up and coming artists don’t have national name recognition

    Expanding on what Matt said in the article, that name recognition is for being a reality tv show contestant, and not for his music, so the benefits of it are going to be short lived, and may not mean a lot in terms of being recognized for his music. Now, he’s trying to build a foundation that’s based on his music, and it will be easier for him to do that if he doesn’t have to worry about having a roof over his head, since the money from the tour is only go to go so far.

    Matt’s not the most ambitious person in the world, and has admitted that he doesn’t like the business part of the industry, and he doesn’t want to live in LA, so his path may be harder than some other people’s. He does need to branch out more, and I’d personally like it if he would come out with more of a defined sound, because not everything that he’s tried works towards his strengths as an artist.

  • Trina

    I’ve been going nuts looking for rehearsal info! Aaron Spears tweeted James saying he sounded great, but not much else from his end. Hopefully Paul will keep tweeting pics and stuff. I wanna know about potential duets and/or pointy poses!

  • Elliegrll

    But for me, the bottom line is all about timing and luck. It’s like: would JHud even have a lucrative singing career if she hadn’t auditioned for and won the role of Eppie in DreamGirls. Without that, she would still be a struggling artist (and probably still a size 16).

    Even this can be tied back to AI, since the producers of the movie contacted them for the names and numbers of some female contestants, and Jennifer is one of the people who they recommended.

  • tomk

    YAY – maybe we will start to get some leaks from tour rehearsals on songs, pairings, etc., which is always fun.

    Casey tweeted asking what song people wanted to hear him & Haley sing together.

    Pia tweeted about rehearsing with Haley & Naima a few days ago.

  • ross

    I fell like I’m blabbing on and on, but I just want to add – aren’t things always a lot more complicated that we can ever know, when we say people ought to be doing this or that? Plans are always changing. They try something for a while, it that doesn’t work, so they try another thing. Or they’re led to expect something that ends up not happening. Constant changing of plans.

    And, people have personal lives. Not just careers. They have illnesses, they have problems unrelated to their career, their parents have problems, they have relationships, they go somewhere to be near someone, they stay somewhere to be near someone. In other words, a lot like the rest of us. And we won’t be privy to any of it.

    Or – some of what Matt talks about in relation to CAA. Issues like this take up the lives of musicians and we usually know nothing about them. It’s very easy to say someone is not ambitious. Or to assume what they’re doing now is what they want to be doing. I think it’s overly simplistic.

  • artemis

    I was really impressed with Matt’s performance on the Idol Tour and it does seem like he could be doing more with the recognition he got from Idol, as many others have done, without becoming huge stars.

    Andrew Garcia has a fiancee and son to support, yet he manages to live in LA and has had appearances all over the map lately, including Alaska, Las Vegas, Boston, Canada, various California venues, and in May he appeared in Australia as part of the Boombox 2011 Sydney Tour He just released a single and has an upcoming EP. I know nothing about his finances or his management, or how well his single is doing, but he seems to have built a fanbase, from youtube and Idol and to make a living from music.

    ETA Ross-You have a good point-we know only a small part of what is going on in the Idols’ lives, what opportunities they have, and why they make the choices that they do. I just want someone to sign Matt.

  • girlygirl

    I think the last few years the AI.com site put up videos of the Idols talking about rehearsals, right? And we got some behind the scenes shots from the promo they did before heading out on tour. I definitely remember this from S8, anyway. And I think I remember seeing it last year. So there should be at least that sort of stuff coming out of the tour rehearsals this year, I would think

  • girlygirl

    Random comment is random, but I just want to say how much respect I have for professional songwriters. After taking this songwriting class, I’m learning just how difficult it is to write any song, especially one that’s halfway decent :)

  • Ratna12

    I wonder about the guarantees because someone tweeted a venue asking about the possibility of booking Kris, and the venue replied that the amount of money Kris gets (or his agent asks for, anyway) as a guarantee is too much for that venue to afford (the venue actually tweeted the amount, which was really stupid — but if it’s true, Kris is doing ok for himself ).

    Thanks girlygirl, I never think about all the behind the scene things. I hope that Kris will continue getting gigs and getting booked. I don’t want him to be starving artist, he is too skinny as it is already.
    *
    It is also interesting about Lady Gaga inventory CDs, etc, since I never thought about that one too.
    *
    About JLo and Steven reaping the most benefits from idol.
    It is not about the future income, but about what they have done in idol, which was so minimal considering their promoting their own careers, and the salary of (forget) how many millions.

    The idol kids will have some money, but of course they have to be somewhat a success too, but the money won’t ever matched that of the judges’.

    OK, don’t want to sound bitter since I’m thankful for idol for getting some of these kids careers.

  • Fullmoon

    Tess, very good points. It’s a hard cold reality for most artists.

    Nice article about Adam supporting Indie artists like Simon Curtis.

    Like Adam, Simon has defied conventions to forge his own path through the notoriously fickle music industry: He remains without a label, manager, or publicist, and his new album is entirely self-penned (with the help of trusted producer Jeff Wells). The boost of getting a shoutout to Adam’s one-million-plus Twitter followers is a big deal for an unsigned artist like Simon, and it may have already paid off — RA has rocketed into the iTunes Top 100 in 11 countries, and is currently sitting at #26 on the iTunes Pop Chart with no formal promotion.

    http://www.wetpaint.com/american-idol/articles/adam-lambert-tweets-love-to-rising-star-simon-curtis

  • ross

    Random comment is random, but I just want to say how much respect I have for professional songwriters. After taking this songwriting class, I’m learning just how difficult it is to write any song, especially one that’s halfway decent.

    Thank you! I never tried to write too many songs, but I guess I’ve read a lot about it because I have some secondhand knowledge of the hard work involved. That’s why I was commenting on another thread about how hard it must be to write and record an Idol album in a few months. I mean, songwriting is the creative process – trial and error – imagination – inspiration – and hard work. No question. I’ve never felt singers need to be songwriters – and some actually shouldn’t try to be – but I admire those who are.

    Andrew Garcia has a fiancee and son to support, yet he manages to live in LA and has had appearances all over the map lately, including Alaska, Las Vegas, Boston, Canada, various California venues, and in May he appeared in Australia as part of the Boombox 2011 Sydney Tour He just released a single and has an upcoming EP. I know nothing about his finances or his management, or how well his single is doing, but he seems to have built a fanbase, from youtube and Idol and to make a living from music.

    ETA Ross-You have a good point-we know only a small part of what is going on in the Idols’ lives, what opportunities they have, and why they make the choices that they do. I just want someone to sign Matt.

    First of all I just want to mention I always liked Andrew, thought he had something – and I was pretty disappointed in what he did on Idol, sometimes, which I don’t think was really what he was all about. But I used to vote for him all the time, regardless, hoping to keep him around to see what he would do.

    Anyhow, he’s from LA, so managing to live there shouldn’t be his biggest problem, but it’s cool how he’s been getting himself out there – he’s been in Boston, performing, twice, I think. Once at MIT and once at the John Hancock building – on different tours. And yeah, I think that kind of tour is a good way to go. I don’t know how it’s financed, or anything, though.

    I agree artemis, if Matty was signed that would be awesome for him, and I think he’s really good.

  • HappyDaisy

    ross:…aren’t things always a lot more complicated than we can ever know, when we say people ought to be doing this or that?

    ross, I appreciate your thoughtful post at 3:05. Powerful points about not jumping to conclusions when judging a person when one has not walked in that person’s shoes.

  • Tess

    After taking this songwriting class, I’m learning just how difficult it is to write any song, especially one that’s halfway decent

    The trouble is that “singers” all (or at least a handful) want to write their own material because ‘they know best what is right for them’…and the truth of the matter is one in ten is successful at it (and I’m not talking about collaborations…just solo pens). Because someone can sing and hopefully interpret a song doesn’t mean they are automatically equipped to write their own material. Besides…by what law is someone who is a good musician automatically considered a good lyricist…and for me lyrics are what sells a song for me.

  • dancingqueen

    Kudos to Taylor & Ruben for helping out their community – wish I could be there!

  • ross

    Thanks, HappyDaisy. I guess I should add I hope I didn’t sound like I was lecturing anybody. Everybody made good points, and there are two sides to everything. For instance, I didn’t disgree with a lot of what girlygirl said and she made some great points.

  • abbysee

    Kudos to Taylor & Ruben for helping out their community – wish I could be there!

    I think it’s awesome. I wish I were there, two of my favorite idol winners!

  • SajiNoKami

    Scotty seems to be getting such a positive reaction, I hope it keeps going for him.

    Paul continues to be our most spoilerific Idol (for that alone he deserves to have made the tour).

    Been following him since the beginning because of this. He loves to take his pictures. Seems less since he got the fiance though.

    I was wondering if the 99¢ gaga would bite them. Usually the only time things are that cheap is old inventory, places are trying to get rid of because they can’t send it back. I picked it up regular price at best buy… still haven’t really decided if I like it or not.

  • tinawina

    re Matt:

    Isn’t it a very common strategy for unsigned acts to try and build a strong regional presence/fanbase and then expand? Maybe that’s what he’s trying to do. But I’m just guessing, so who knows.

    Anyway, I could see that. He’s from that state, so he could use the momentum from being something of a hometown hero to build off while he works out his music.

  • ozarko

    Concert booking fees for several of the Idols, according to this site… http://degy.com/images2/Tour%20Avails.pdf

    We Are The Fallen (Carly Smithson) $5-10k
    Blake Lewis $10k+
    Lee DeWyze $15-25k
    Crystal Bowersox $15-25k
    Danny Gokey $30k+
    David Archuleta $30-40k
    David Cook $30-50k
    Adam Lambert $40-50k+
    Kellie Pickler $50-60k
    Fantasia $50-75k
    Clay Aiken $85-100k+
    Jennifer Hudson $100k+
    Daughtry $200-300k+
    Kelly Clarkson $350-500k+
    Carrie Underwood $350-500k+

    (sorry if I missed anyone)

  • abbysee

    Concert booking fees for several of the Idols, according to this site… http://degy.com/images2/Tour%20Avails.pdf

    I find some of this unbelievable, I don’t think anyone would pay 100k for Clay anymore, for one thing, or that David Cook would be so little.

  • steph6449

    From Tuesday’s fashion show. Danny is, err, looking pretty fit. Lol

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=150594418345549&set=o.157463643401&type=1&theater

  • steph6449

    I find some of this unbelievable,

    Some of those look questionable/out of date, but the number for Danny is not wildly out of the range that I have heard.

    Maybe David Cook’s number goes back to when he last toured regularly, which was a while back?

    Interesting reading that. Danny’s fee is listed as more than Craig Morgan, whom Danny opened for last fall. When I went to the concert, I really had the impression from audience response, how the setlists / performances went, that you could just as easily have flipped the billing to have Craig open for Danny and had just as happy a crowd. Or more, as the person I was with could not stand Craig, lol. Looks to me from that list, not surprisingly, as if the acts who are known only within the country world, don’t rate as high a fee as those with more mainstream name recognition. Or of course the big touring acts where Tim McGraw (of that list, which is missing big names like Kenny Chesney) seems to be on top.

  • Trina

    Clay and Adam’s numbers look reversed. Clay may still ask for that kind of money but I don’t believe for a second he can still actually get it.

  • girlygirl

    is that list for actual concerts or for private/corporate gigs? because a lot of acts can get paid much more for private one-offs than they do for standard gigs

    ETA: if that is for regular concert gigs, then from what I’ve heard, Kris would be in the same range as Adam ($40-50K+). But I would bet that some of these numbers are a little outdated — for example, if that’s what Cook was getting after coming off Idol, he might be a little higher now, following a successful 1st album/tour. Likewise, once Adam releases his next CD and heads back on tour, he might see those fees go up, since his 1st tour was so successful.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I think it’s awesome. I wish I were there, two of my favorite idol winners!

    I was going to go see Taylor and Ruben, but I got bit by an insect while working in my yard and my hand is swollen. I also have a big bite on my arm. I think it was a spider, but didn’t see it. Plus, it’s too damn hot. :-(

    Bo, Taylor and Pickler (and other artists) are also doing a Bama Rising benefit at the civic center soon, but it is sold out. Good for the relief effort, but not so good for me.

  • lucy95

    Who in their right mind would pay some of those booking fees? As far as concerts, I would pay to see a Matt Giraud, a Tim Halperin or Haley to name a few for a minimum fee or buy some tunes online, but some of these people are really over rated. Lee Dewyze for $25,000 – really? Different strokes for different folks I guess.

  • Fullmoon

    From what I’ve heard Adam is already in the 75-100k range and he actually fills concert seats. I’m sure those numbers are out dated and has nothing to do with how many CDs you sell or when your next CD comes out but if you can actually sell tickets and fill venues.

  • kokko

    Steph – I am actually pleasantly surprised to see the booking fees for Danny is higher than the other two relatively new but also pretty popular country acts – Glorianna and The Band Perry, and also Luke Bryan – a mainstream country artist who has been in the business much longer than Danny. I think both TBP and Luke have better chart success and higher album sales than Danny, so if the chart on that link is correct and up to date then the booking fees may reflect more on the popularity of the artists based on their live performances and the likelihood of selling out most if not all of the tickets with respect to the venue capacity.

  • ozarko

    We Are The Fallen (Carly Smithson) $5-10k
    Blake Lewis $10k+
    Lee DeWyze $15-25k
    Crystal Bowersox $15-25k
    Danny Gokey $30k+
    David Archuleta $30-40k
    David Cook $30-50k
    Adam Lambert $40-50k+
    Kellie Pickler $50-60k
    Fantasia $50-75k
    Clay Aiken $85-100k+
    Jennifer Hudson $100k+
    Daughtry $200-300k+
    Kelly Clarkson $350-500k+
    Carrie Underwood $350-500k+

    For comparison, this is what the numbers were in 2009…

    1 ) Carrie Underwood — $500,000+/Call for Price
    2 ) Kelly Clarkson — $250,000+
    3 ) Daughtry — $150,000-$200,000
    4 ) Fantasia — $100,000-$200,000
    5 ) Clay Aiken — $100,000-$150,000
    6 ) Jennifer Hudson — $100,000+
    7 ) Jordin Sparks — $75,000-$125,000
    8 ) David Archuleta — $40,000+
    9 ) David Cook — $30,000-$50,000
    10) Kellie Pickler — $30,000-$40,000
    11) Bucky Covington — $20,000-$25,000
    12) Taylor Hicks — $15,000-$30,000
    13) Josh Gracin — $15,000-$25,000
    14) Blake Lewis — $10,000+
    15) Bo Bice — $10,000+

    Source: Idol Forums

  • tripp_ncwy

    MJ has a separate thread up for the tour booking fee discussion. Thanks, ozarko

  • Elliegrll

    Isn’t it a very common strategy for unsigned acts to try and build a strong regional presence/fanbase and then expand? Maybe that’s what he’s trying to do. But I’m just guessing, so who knows.

    This is a good and common strategy, but for most acts, regional would cover more than one state, and more than just one part of the state. Matt says he has a local manager now, so maybe this will allow him to branch out more.

  • Mel1

    The booking fees must vary a lot depending on the venue. I don’t think Adam would normally get as much as Daughtry, but I heard they got the same amount for their Singapore gigs. Even tho Daughtry is a lot more successful, Adam did pull in twice as many audience members.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Kris pic with fans during his weekend at the lake with family & friends.

    http://lockerz.com/s/110194653

  • steph6449

    Steph – I am actually pleasantly surprised to see the booking fees for Danny is higher than the other two relatively new but also pretty popular country acts – Glorianna and The Band Perry, and also Luke Bryan – a mainstream country artist who has been in the business much longer than Danny. I think both TBP and Luke have better chart success and higher album sales than Danny, so if the chart on that link is correct and up to date then the booking fees may reflect more on the popularity of the artists based on their live performances and the likelihood of selling out most if not all of the tickets with respect to the venue capacity.

    TBP may be one of those that is out of date, and I would think Luke may be higher. I could see Danny getting more than Gloriana.
    It may change with the success TBP has had, but when Danny has appeared with those three artists so far, he’s had higher or equal billing to all of them except Luke.

  • steph6449

    This is a good and common strategy, but for most acts, regional would cover more than one state, and more than just one part of the state. Matt says he has a local manager now, so maybe this will allow him to branch out more.

    Idk, it doesn’t seem to square with Matt doing all the trips / recording in Nashville, and putting out songs nationally with Anna Wilson and Jim Brickman. If he wants to be a recording artist, maybe he needs a good manager who knows what to do with him, and can really advise him–if necessary with some tough love to make the right choices. Does he have a (professional) manager, or is he doing it himself?

    He doesn’t seem very sharply focused on any particular genre or strategy, yet he’s gotten some very very nice opportunities in recording the duets and working with some very good songwriters. It’s a shame not to do everything he can with them, and get more live appearances in places that can help his career. If he doesn’t want to pay to move to Nashville, maybe he could bunk with Danny for a little while, lol.

    If he said that his AI name recognition is for being a “reality show contestant,” well, yeah, that is part of it. But the great thing with AI is you remember the contestants for their vocals and their performances as much as anything else. “Oh, Matt, yeah, the guy who plays piano with the fedora. He was really good on tour.” Not, “Oh Matt, yeah, he’s the one who slept with the other guy’s wife, or couldn’t swallow the live bug in the survival show” ;)

  • Elliegrll

    If he said that his AI name recognition is for being a “reality show contestant,” well, yeah, that is part of it. But the great thing with AI is you remember the contestants for their vocals and their performances as much as anything else. “Oh, Matt, yeah, the guy who plays piano with the fedora. He was really good on tour.” Not, “Oh Matt, yeah, he’s the one who slept with the other guy’s wife, or couldn’t swallow the live bug in the survival show”

    People may remember the vocals, but that’s not a big part of why people buy, or even like, a song or an album. Scotty said the same thing, right now he’s a tv star, but he has to prove to people that he’s a legitimate artist. People aren’t going to buy an album or follow Matt just because he has a nice voice.

  • steph6449

    Judging by reactions so far, probably plenty of people will spent $10 to buy Scotty’s debut album because they liked what they saw on tv and he has the AI name recognition. Have to think that was demonstrated already when his winner’s single went for sale. Whether they find him to be a “legitimate artist” will be important to some music buyers, but he’s never going to appeal to everybody anyway. And others won’t care if the music is at least adequate and they just think he’s sooooo adorable or whatever :)

    I don’t think hordes of people across the nation will come out to buy Matt Giraud’s music if/when he releases some for sale. But there are people who remember him and liked what he did on the show / tour, who will be interested enough to give it a try. The number seems likely to fall off a lot over time though if he doesn’t come out with something. It’s going on two years.

  • Elliegrll

    Judging by reactions so far, probably plenty of people will spent $10 to buy Scotty’s debut album because they liked what they saw on tv and he has the AI name recognition. Have to think that was demonstrated already when his winner’s single went for sale. Whether they find him to be a “legitimate artist” will be important to some music buyers, but he’s never going to appeal to everybody anyway. And others won’t care if the music is at least adequate and they just think he’s sooooo adorable or whatever

    I don’t think that what happens with the coronation or studio singles proves the point that people are buying the music because of someone’s voice, or because of the music itself. The coronation singles are usually more about buying a souvenir from the season, and it’s been widely agreed upon that AI fans will buy (multiple) copies of the first single, because they want to support their favorite from the show, but one of the reason why we’ve seen such a falloff when the second album comes out is because those people don’t necessarily like their favorites music.

    It’s hard for people to really tell who someone is as an artist, or whether or not they will like someone’s original music, when that person is singing covers, and trying to be a good reality show contestant.

  • steph6449

    I don’t think that what happens with the coronation or studio singles proves the point that people are buying the music because of someone’s voice, or because of the music itself. The coronation singles are usually more about buying a souvenir from the season,

    Those aren’t mutually inconsistent. Someone can like the voice/music and also want a souvenir, if they choose. Not saying that others might not wish to have one, but personally, I could care less about a “souvenir” and I don’t know many who do, and I definitely would not buy one if I didn’t like the person’s voice or choice of music.

    In Scotty’s case, I would guess that some may want their souvenirs, but I’d give him credit that viewers of the show liked him and are buying it support him. And they are getting reminders to buy it on one of the numerous sites where he’s been getting publicity. Which is all fine. What happens with album #2, idk. He’s got a long way to go before getting to that. They seem to be looking to get an album out quickly, and although he’s not my cup of tea, I would think he should do reasonably well for holiday sales.

    It’s hard for people to really tell who someone is as an artist, or whether or not they will like someone’s original music, when that person is singing covers, and trying to be a good reality show contestant.

    For me, I think you can get a pretty decent idea watching AI of what the performers are like musically, and what their post-AI sound will be. You don’t necessarily know what song choices they will wind up with, or if a producer is going to dump everything including the kitchen sink into their production. But if you really liked someone as a singer/performer on the show, and are aware when their post-AI music comes out, I think people are willing to give it a chance to buy the album, or at least some digital tracks. If they don’t care for it, they won’t buy more. So sure, a second album may do worse. But first things first…get one out, and have it do well enough to have the chance to try for a second.

  • CindyM

    The coronation singles are usually more about buying a souvenir from the season, and it’s been widely agreed upon that AI fans will buy (multiple) copies of the first single, because they want to support their favorite from the show, but one of the reason why we’ve seen such a falloff when the second album comes out is because those people don’t necessarily like their favorites music.

    I think it’s also been widely agreed that those fans who multiple buy have little effect on total sales of the artist. I don’t think that liking them on the show and liking them for their voice are mutually exclusive when it comes to buying their music.

  • CindyM

    Gaga accused of ripping off another artist for her song Electric Chapel:

    http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=46351_0_2_0_C

  • steph6449

    This is interesting, someone tweeting from the last evening of CMA Fest that they have been playing Danny’s album during the evening concerts at LP Field during the changeovers between acts. :)

    CMA FEST sure loves @dannygokey they have played almost his whole album every single night this week!

    at the LP Field concerts. They have been playing him like every other song in between the artist performing

  • tripp_ncwy

    One of Kris’ friends posted fb pictures of their weekend at the lake. Some the pictures are hilarious.

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1861117040862.2094097.1029000115

  • girlygirl

    watch the shirtless Kris pics show up on at least one gossip site

    It’s Daniel’s (Kris’s brother) fiancee who posted the pictures. I won’t be surprised if she gets a gentle warning about what she should and shouldn’t post on FB

    ETA: The photos have been taken down from FB. Not surprised. Guess she just got a taste of what it’s like to be around a celeb who has more than a few cray cray fans

  • springboard

    I don’t know how much truth there is in this Simon Cowell’s rival to put Cheryl Cole on American Idol?

  • Ratna12

    Love shirtless pics of Kris. I guess he managed not to overeating
    even when he is home relaxing. Jealous.

  • Ratna12

    I don’t know how much truth there is in this Simon Cowell’s rival to put Cheryl Cole on American Idol?

    Who is she going to replace ? Maybe Steven, to make it 2 girls and 1 guy judges ?

  • goboywonder

    According to twitter David A has been confirmed to do a full concert in Malaysia on July 26th.

    @itsSTEVElah (FLYfm): It’s official… @DavidArchie is coming down to Malaysia for a full blown concert! :)

    @itsSTEVElah (FLYfm): Make sure you keep it locked to @FLYfm958… cuz we’re giving out those tixs to @DavidArchie’s concert for FREE! :)

    eta, interesting tweet:
    @boo_radleigh: Wow! @sonymusicmy made about 2000 calls and 500 emails to @davidarchie’s management to make the concert happen for us! U guys!! No words <3

  • goboywonder

    David announces his concert in Malaysia via facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=193669517347782

  • Kirsten

    I don’t know how much truth there is in this Simon Cowell’s rival to put Cheryl Cole on American Idol?

    If it is true, that girl lives a charmed, charmed life.

    With very little discernible talent, she has powerful men determine to make her a success wherever her whim may choose to take her.

    Whatever they do, they should not make Idol a four panel judging panel again. That was a disaster that should not be revisited. Sure, it has worked elsewhere, but AI had two disastrous panels of 4 and that nearly killed the show. They should just stop trying.

  • luly

    Kris looks fantastic in the shirtless pictures.