Country Vibe has a source confirming that country superstar, Brad Paisley is indeed meeting with American Idol execs this week about possibly joining the judges’ panel:

There were rumors last week that Brad Paisley was in talks to possibly become a judge on the next season of American Idol, and sources have confirmed to The Country Vibe that Brad and his people will indeed be in Los Angeles this week meeting with top Idol executives about having him join the show.

If Brad signs on, he’ll join pop legend, Mariah Carey on the panel. There is no confirmation yet on whether Idol veteran, Randy Jackson will return as judge. There have been rumors that he’ll move to a mentoring role. Considering Randy is Mariah’s manager and was reportedly instrumental in bringing her on board, he’ll probably stick around in some capacity.

Here’s an update from Country Aircheck. There are questions around whether Brad can fit Idol around his tour schedule:

Despite the denials, CA hears meetings are set for next week to discuss the feasibility of meshing Paisley’s touring and business schedule into the AI timeline. The show airs Jan.-May 2013, with auditions currently underway. We wonder if they can get it done so BP could make an appearance at the Aug. 12 AI auditions at Nashville’s Bridgestone Arena. As of now, that’s an open date on his tour schedule. We’re also curious, whether Paisley’s going to wear his trademark cowboy hat on the show.

 

 
  • Anonymous

    He’s super cute, so at least if he signs on as a judge I’ll be able to swoon over him all season. It’ll also give me something to stare at other than Mimi’s cleavage. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/maria.romeo.900 Maria Romeo

    OMG OMG OMG THIS MIGHT BE HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • Stavros

    Okay I’m starting to think Randy Jackson must have some serious dirt or blackmail on Simon Fuller. 12 years is quite a long time.

  • windmills

    I had a feeling there was something to this one based on the reaction around Brad’s camp when the Deadline leak 1st got out. Then there was the “no information to share” comment from his PR.

    Suddenly I care who next year’s Idol judges may be. Dammit, Idol!

    The Country Vibe is a reliable Music Row source.

    Brad would be awesome if they let Brad be Brad. Smart guy, nice guy, fresh perspective, talented, and FUNNY. Future Country Music Hall Of Famer who is still very relevant on the country scene. I actually think he can make this work with his schedule despite all the touring he does. Not 100% guaranteed though, and IMO it’ll come down to a question of whether Brad really wants to take this step into the mainstream or not. The money issue will be interesting too because Brad makes TONS from his tours.

  • justmefornow

    Randy, Mariah and Brad (which kinda reminds me of last year, switch out rock for country and you’re there).
    Just announce it already and lets move on.

  • Anonymous

    This is shaping up to be a good panel… then you have Randy. Ugh, I wish they would just pay him off to go away so they can hire someone else good.

  • OffLeash

    Idol’s “new” strategy seems pretty clear now. Instead of trying to attract a younger and different demo, they decided to cater to the one that’s been faithful to the show from the start, older viewers, diva and country fans, and the South.

    I think it’s actually a very smart decision, because now FOX has two shows that will cater to different demos without competing with each other as much as if they were targeting the same demo, XFUS being the one targeted at a younger audience.

    That said, Idol probably won’t offer anything too exciting for me anymore, with what I suspect will be even more emphasis on divas, technical singers and country singers galore. I’m grateful we now have two other shows available, and crossing my fingers that the changes The Voice and XF promised will make them enjoyable.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Randy, Mariah and Brad …. that would by far the most boring judging panel of the three big singing TV shows. Just nothing fresh about it. 

  • Anonymous

    OMG. I hope it happens!! Brad is super cool and funny. He also has smarts.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    That said, Idol probably won’t offer anything too exciting for me anymore, with what I suspect will be even more emphasis on divas, technical singers and country singers galore.

    Does the configuration of the judging panel really have that much influence over the style of the singers? I don’t remember a big emphasis on dance-oriented performers when Paula Abdul or Jennifer Lopez were judges… indeed, the biggest-voiced diva winners won at a time when nobody on the panel was a big-voiced diva, and I’d question whether the wins of the first three rock-oriented winners were connected to Randy Jackson’s having played bass for Journey, since he’d been jabbering about it for six seasons previously, with no visible effect.

    We already know the judges don’t choose the weekly themes. Indeed, often past judges seem not even to understand the themes.

    As far as going after a younger audience… unlike Paula Abdul, Steve Tyler, and Jennifer Lopez, both Mariah Carey and Brad Paisley have recent radio hits that a person in his or her late 20s or early 30s could easily have heard on the radio within the past few years. This judging panel is a move away from judges who regard “hits” as distant memories.

  • justmefornow

    It seems like for the last few years Idol probably has left, TPTB don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. It is just a TV show after all.
    It always comes down to ratings and money. 

  • clearone

    Oh just gag me ………… I’d rather have Kara back. 

  • OffLeash

    It’s a smart move for an aging show that probably doesn’t have very many years left anyway. Those FOX execs aren’t dumb after all lol. 

  • Anonymous

    Only because of Randy, to be honest. Mariah could be a super diva, which might be fun to watch. :D

    I can’t take another season of Randy though. He’s so fail now.

  • s k

    I’m okay with Brad, Mariah and Randy because that saves me from actually watching Idol anymore.  After the fifth WGWG winner I vowed to not watch again next season and Idol certainly doesn’t seem to care about it’s fading ratings and same ole same ole winners trend. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    I can’t take another season of Randy. He has to be gone, PLEASE!!! Don’t know why so many people are assuming Randy is staying.

  • http://twitter.com/esqape Zach

     Brad Sickens me. No thank you American Idol.

  • Anonymous

    Plus, having signed MC, they have to go after another big name of some variety. So I expect they’re probably pretty eager to snag Paisley. A panel with one huge name and a couple of C-listers wouldn’t work, seems to me — would just look too unbalanced.

  • http://twitter.com/hannabeila melody kramer

    I guess I won’t be watching Idol..

  • OffLeash

    It could also have been a condition in MC’s contract that no C-lister would be allowed to share the judging panel with her. Didn’t someone mention the possibility in an article somewhere? 

  • s k

    Plus, having signed MC, they have to go after another big name of some variety. So I expect they’re probably pretty eager to snag Paisley. A panel with one huge name and a couple of C-listers wouldn’t work, seems to me — would just look too unbalanced.

    The show started off with one C-lister and two no listers and it worked perfectly.  They are now trying to compete with The Voice, Duets and X-Factor when what they should be doing it trying to get the show back to it’s original intent, which is finding a global superstar. 

    Making it all about the judges is what has killed this show over the last four or five seasons IMO

  • Anonymous

    I’m not surprised. After the rumor came out, Brad didn’t say no quickly like a lot of the other rumored judges.

    I agree with windmills. If Brad can be himself, IMO he would be good for the judging panel. He has a good sense of humor, is a current artist with loads of success, & I think he can give at least constructive criticism. 

    I would be excited if he to become a judge. I like Mariah’s music, but I’m not excited about her being a judge.

  • windmills

    TheGreatXL: This is shaping up to be a good panel… then you have Randy. Ugh, I wish they would just pay him off to go away so they can hire someone else good.

    Just a guess but IMO  the only reason the 4 judges possibility is even out there is because they can’t totally get rid of Randy after bringing in Mariah. So, it’d probably be Randy in some capacity (judge/mentor) and then Mariah, Brad, and somebody else (female? non performer like a producer? both?).
     
    As far as demos and all that, I think the CHR demo is just not into discovering their newest fave on TV anymore. XF especially is trying to gear younger but after the show, I don’t feel like it’s going to lead to a CHR fitting fanbase for the contestants after the show. That goes along with your point about it being a good idea for Idol to play to the musical demos it’s already associated with. But, if one of these shows can really use the internet to give viewers that feeling of being at the forefront of a trend and discovery then maybe it’ll be possible for an act with a CHR focused fanbase to come out of one of these shows.

    ITA with Eilonwy that who the judges are doesn’t say much about who’ll win.

  • Anonymous

    Well Brad is tight with Carrie U. who is tight with Simon Fuller, no brainer to me.  Plus I am not really into country music but I do find him entertaining on the awards shows I have watched. He has tons of fans young & old.

  • Anonymous

    Making it all about the judges is what has killed this show over the last four or five seasons IMO

    I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Ratings were higher for S10 than S9 when J-Lo & Steven joined. People do talk about the judges much more, but IMO it’s not any different than the last years of Simon, Randy, & Paula. I remember S6 & S7 people still talking about Paula being crazy, Simon & Paula’s arguments, etc.

    Actually, I think it’s been a combination of factors that have led to the ratings drop like the same type of winners, too many singing shows, Idol is a old show, etc. But I think the factors that influenced Idol the most were too nice judges & the same winners. I don’t think the famous judges would have been a problem if they could criticize.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Randy has some real cockroach/rat ability to survive. If nature/reason spoke louder he should have left years and years ago. But now, with Mariah coming, not only he gets something like 10% of Mariah’s deal, but he’ll manage to guarantee his job ( probably as a judge on the show). 

    Randy will never leave the show – he’ll survive the bottom 3 of the judges always. He’s the mascot of Idol. Somehow I took totally seriously the campaign that other blog did to save him. He doesn’t represent only the show …he represents life.

  • OffLeash

    Now that it looks like Idol really wants Brad, they might need Randy for the continuity factor, which would make sense, even though the new panel does absolutely nothing for me.

    I remember how I had given up on Idol after S9, but then how excited I was about Steven being a judge before S10 started. No such excitement this time around for sure lmao. 

  • http://twitter.com/buffy522 Donna

    40 year old white guy with guitar…..oh, yeah, it’s idol. Guess he has a new single and album to promote. Nah, too much pimping

  • Anonymous

    I guess you don’t know that the majority of country male artists are WGWG’s.

    Brad doesn’t need the show to jump start his career. He had 1 of the top 20 tours of any genre last year & still makes at least 30 million a year. He is always at the top of the charts in country. Actually, Brad is more of a star in country than Blake Shelton was when he first signed with The Voice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1403015987 Sharon Ulrich Davis

    I more than just “on board” for putting Brad on the panel.  He will be awesome if he takes the job.  Brad has taken several Idol alums on his tour with him and treated them great so that tells me he appreciates the show.  I personally have no idea what he knows about other genres, but a singer is a singer in my book and maybe if he isn’t that familiar he can judge based on what he hears on the show and not how it compares to the original like they so often do.  I also seriously doubt he’ll find a word (beautiful) or a phrase (sounded pitchey to me) and repeat it till I want to gag.  I also doubt he will be afraid to give an opinion that’s not based on how it will effect his own career.  Nothing he says will bother his current fans and he doesn’t need more since he has a current career and isn’t there to build himself up.
     

  • Anonymous

    They are now trying to compete with The Voice, Duets and X-Factor when what they should be doing it trying to get the show back to it’s original intent, which is finding a global superstar.

    Even when “superstar” was part of the subtitle, I don’t think “global” was implied. I don’t think one can look at the top 2 of seasons 2, 3, 4 or 5 and argue that they represented genres and performance styles consistent with global superstardom, as talented as they may have been.  They were sold to American audiences because it was American Idol.  And generally they didn’t even target the American pop charts; the focus was on genre charts.  Underwood had a huge crossover but that was the exception, not the rule. Honestly, Daughtry did okay overseas but the only ones who made a run at global pop stardom in the first six seasons were Clarkson and Sparks and only the former was able to sustain, because she had the reputation behind her when radio tired of singing show alumni.

    To me, what the show needs to do, which its production team has consistently ignored as a strategy, is to expand song choices and widen themes so that we get to see these constestants as musicians.  Radio will still not treat them like superstars but they will probably have a better chance of developing longer-term fans instead of souvenir seekers.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Randy has to go. After 11 seasons he really can’t offer anything new to the audience. He is just babbling like a broken record. His best years were with Simon and Paula on the panel and those two are long gone. Time to move on. 

    I’m not happy about seening a country dude on the panel. We’ve had enough of country on Idol for a few years. Shania would be acceptable, but since Mariah is already signed on, she is out.

    I would also prefer to have some younger judges. Like, 2 older and two younger judges. Like XF UK and XF USA. Mariah at 42 could be one of the older ones. Then another older guy, record label executive, maybe?

    And two younger judges. One under 40, one under 30?  

    I know that judging panel is just one aspect of the show. Things won’t get any better if they keep old themes and all that crap.

    I know that TPTB announced some changes to improve Idol, but looking at these new judges I think nothing will really change. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Brad is pretty much hired. Now, with Brad and Mariah, I can see Randy moving to a different role and the third judge being a young pop star like Miley.

  • Anonymous

    The point should be to find a global star. For instance, Carrie Underwood has had an amazing career, but because she’s not a global superstar like Kelly Clarkson, she might never catch Kelly’s worldwide sales numbers. Not that Carrie needs worldwide exposure, she’s super successful either way, it’s just to show that worldwide sales should matter in judging overall success.
     
    I just wish Idol would stop churning out WGWG’s who will never make a worldwide impact. Of course by saying that, people get mad at me for bringing up WGWGisms, when the truth is I want Idol to be successful and they’ll never do it with artists who have no lasting relevance that Kelly Clarkson showed this show could give you.

  • Anonymous

    I want Idol to be successful and they’ll never do it with artists who have no lasting relevance that Kelly Clarkson showed this show could give you.

    It could give it to you when it was still a new phenomenon and girl-power pop-rock was fresh and relevant enough to help her remake her image after starting out as an R&B pop singer.

    Nobody from the show is going to be able to ride a wave like that at radio today because the market is too saturated.  It has very little to do with the talent and commercial readiness of the contestants at this point.  Nobody is running around complaining that Wally de Becker from Gotye or that dude from Grouplove are white guys who play guitar.

    People just need to accept that finding another global star ain’t happening and focus energy on the kind of changes that would let these people present themselves as musicians with something to say: fresher songs, longer performances, more behind-the-scenes on performance prep, and letting them cowrite and consult on original songs.

  • Kitwana

    I agree that if Idol goes with 3 judges, which I hope they do, the third judge will be young (teens/early 20′s) with appeal to teens and tweens. I think Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Greyson Chance or Nick Jonas are real possibilities.

  • Anonymous

    I have NO idea who Brad Paisley is.  Yes, I’ve ‘heard’ of him, but couldn’t name 1 song he sings… since I’m not a country fan and don’t listen to country music stations.  Is he clever? witty? funny? interested to a judging panel?  If he’s a male version of Carrie Underwood in personality, Idol’s insane for hiring him.  I would have no interest in watching and I suspect it would be a turnoff to some viewers not into his country genre.

  • s k

    Even when “superstar” was part of the subtitle, I don’t think “global” was implied.,

    “with you I think we have found a world wide superstar” – that’s what Simon Cowell said to Kelly Clarkson in Season 1. 

    He’s only said it to one other contestant that I can recall and that was Adam Lambert. 

    The goal, of any artist and their label is to reach as many people as possible.  No one sets out to have an artist that is only regionally successful.  That’s why Carrie is now trying to market herself overseas…she wants world wide succcess. 

    Idol wants global stars because it ups their cache as being the premiere talent show in the world.  Kelly is the most successful idol, across all genres, across all franchises of the show and she won 10 years ago.  They need a winner who can compete with her on a world wide level IMO and they’ve been looking for that (or should have been) all these years. 

  • windmills

    TheGreatXL The point should be to find a global star. For instance, Carrie Underwood has had an amazing career, but because she’s not a global superstar like Kelly Clarkson, she might never catch Kelly’s worldwide sales numbers. Not that Carrie needs worldwide exposure, she’s super successful either way, it’s just to show that worldwide sales should matter in judging overall success.

    LOL, that’s totally circular. If it’s possible to have an amazing career without having amazing worldwide numbers then what makes worldwide numbers a better goal than something else? I could say the point should be to find somebody who becomes an institution in their genre like Carrie has because all the sales in the world won’t necessarily mean you’ll be considered one of the all time significant people in your genre. That’s not necessarily a lesser or greater matter of importance than worldwide album sales. I could point to Brad playing to bigger crowds in the UK and Scandinavia than pop acts with bigger album sales there. Why would album sales more important than the number of people who’ll pay to see you play live? 

    I’m not putting down the merits of finding somebody who appeals to overseas markets. If somebody from these shows can do it, great! I just don’t agree that needs to be the be all and end all of these shows. Your comment basically said the point should be to find a global superstar because the point should be find a global superstar. I think the point of these shows is and should be to find lasting successes with a broader definition of what success is.

    s k: That’s why Carrie is now trying to market herself overseas…she wants world wide succcess.

    Actually, 19 has been pressuring Carrie to market herself overseas since her debut album. She put the brakes on it until she was established enough in country music in North America, so her going out overseas is more about finally playing live for her fans there than about trying to become a worldwide success. Not that she doesn’t want to do well abroad but her goals are pretty modest and more geared towards touring.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I want Idol to be successful and they’ll never do it with artists who
    have no lasting relevance that Kelly Clarkson showed this show could
    give you.

    Idol was brand spanking new when Kelly won it and she was riding a wave of *its* popularity, not only her own. There are *plenty* of very successful artists who are both white males and guitar players on the scene today. So, being that type of artist is not the reason these contestants aren’t selling like Kelly. The show had been on for seven years before the first “WGWG” won, so the only brand spanking new thing about it was *that* win. Cook did pretty well that first year, but then idol fatigue kicked back in. Nobody from Idol these days is blowing everyone else out of the water — not the pop singers, the divas, the current country kids, the guitar players (of any stripe). No one.

    My only comment about Paisley is, I’m surprised it took them so long. The country music loving audience has been very supportive of Idol and, apparently, watches it enough to connect with their preferred contestants. It’s a wonder they haven’t had a country oriented judge up till now, as opposed to the country-hating Cowell.

  • Anonymous

    The fact that you’ve heard of him, even though you’ve never heard any of his music, is a sign of his star status.

  • Anonymous

    I was just making the point that even though Carrie seems more successful to the American market (because she’s pretty much a country legend in the making), she’ll still might never sell as much as Kelly because she’ll find it harder to get a world wide market audience. That wasn’t a slight at Carrie, I was just using the example of Idol’s two biggest successes.

    My point being that by trying to find a world star these days, you could temper the loss of US fans the last many winners have shown to have after their first albums. First albums do well, then the second bombs.

  • Anonymous

    They need a winner who can compete with her on a world wide level IMO and they’ve been looking for that (or should have been) all these years.

    They tried it with Sparks.  Sweet girl, big hits, opening slots to expose her to different audiences, global marketing.  But radio wouldn’t stay on board and the fans got more fickle, in part because the show kept promising better talent around the corner.

    The point is this is not a WGWG problem, a uniquely later season problem, or a judge casting problem (although stupid pointless comments have certainly hurt the show, we have no reason to believe that these new judges would be any worse at it than prior ones).  It’s inherent in the show, and the successes of the artists have always come to some degree in spite of the hurdles the show and its machinery put in front of them.

  • Mateja Praznik

    I don’t think American Idol will ever again produce a star of any kind: not American, not international. For God’s sake, they struggle to produce a major label recording artist with at least two successful albums these days. 

    The show is now blissfully irrelevant to the music industry and TPTB are doing nothing to change that.

  • Anonymous

    Well he’s obviously popular amongst “country” artists, but honestly those of us who don’t listen to country music wouldn’t know him from a hole in the wall. Having heard a name is not the same as knowing anything, or caring anything, about him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    I have to take issue with the opinion that by casting these 2 as judges, Idol is trying to stick with their current demographic. Because I have been an Idol Loon for 11 seasons and if these 2 are the judges, with Randy, I am gone!
    ETA: And that is the first time I have ever said that. I stuck it out thru S9 and the Country kids’ year, but this panel would do me in. And yes, I think who the judges are is very important for the show.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    The show is now blissfully irrelevant to the music industry

    The music industry is just about blissfully irrelevant to the music “industry.”

  • windmills

    You’re really missing out :) There’s a reason Brad & Carrie have been invited to cohost the CMA Awards for the 5th year in a row.

    Here’s their monologue from the 2011 CMA Awards:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25sGNdxEs9o 

    Here’s their monologue from the 2010 CMA Awards: 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywxMInAZuic 

    Here’s a promo they did for last year’s show:  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Au55_g98hE&feature=plcp 

    I know I know, that’s all scripted. If you want to see Brad (and Carrie, though the focus in this thread is Brad for obvious reasons) in an unscripted setting, check out this thread with vid of the pre-CMA press conference Brad & Carrie did as cohosts: link

    There’s also the funny songs Brad’s cowritten including Alcohol (link), Online (link), and of course Celebrity (link).

    TheGreatXL: My point being that by trying to find a world star these days, you could temper the loss of US fans the last many winners have shown to have after their first albums. First albums do well, then the second bombs.

    OK but I feel like this is a situation where success (in the US) breeds success (overseas if attempted) and not-so-much-success (in the US) breeds not-so-much-success (overseas, even if attempted), regardless of whether it’s the 1st or 2nd album. 

    Mateja Praznik: The show is now blissfully irrelevant to the music industry and TPTB are doing nothing to change that.

    So are the other TV reality singing shows in the US. Like I was saying, it’s a format wide issue not just an issue for AI.

  • Anonymous

    I want Idol to be successful and they’ll never do it with artists who 
    have no lasting relevance that Kelly Clarkson showed this show could 
    give you.

    The show is about to enter it’s 12th season, I really doubt that any of the other singing shows will last that long, even Simon Cowell has been talking about ending the X Factor UK.  Popstars didn’t last 12 years, and many of the international versions of Idol have been canceled.  At this point, AI has already been successful.  The show held the number one spot in the ratings longer than any other television show in history, and contestants from the show have been responsible for over 300 number one songs.  

    The show has been a ratings success even though only one other contestant has seen the type of success that Kelly Clarkson has, so the thing that draws viewers in can’t be how well former contestants are doing.  It’s rare for a tv show to last more than five years, so AI has done something right.

  • Anonymous

    As a host of award shows, all that is written for him (and everyone who takes on that role), so that isn’t a good indication of how he can ad-lib as a judge on Idol or what sort of advice he is going to dish out – or how entertaining he is in that format.  Also, Idol’s audience is not “his” audience, per se, so his reception may not be the same as on a country awards show where they seem to relate more to him, but I’ll reserve judgement until we see his skill in that area.

  • Anonymous

    TheGreatXL: I just wish Idol would stop churning out WGWG’s who will never make a worldwide impact.  

    I understand everyone’s concerns about having 5 WGWG winners in a row. Why does the winner have to have worldwide impact? Like it or not, we should be glad that some of these winners are even U.S successes because most of the industry doesn’t care about Idol anymore.

    WGWG’s from Idol don’t make a worldwide impact. But neither is really any contestants from the past couple of years. Adam has success internationally, but he’s not really having that much success on the 2nd album even in the U.S. People think Jessica could have an impact, but we will wait & see. Considering it doesn’t sound like many people in the U.S are that interested in her I’m skeptical unless she has the right songs.

  • Anonymous

    Brad seems like a fine choice to me. I’d rather NOT Have Mariah, but not much I can do but mute her. Ugh. I’ve always liked Randy, so I do hope he is still a judge. I’m ready for the next season already…it’s too far away! :)

  • Anonymous

    IMO the point should be to find and nurture artists to be successful in whatever genre they choose, be it pop, rock, country or r&b. Superstardom requires luck and timing in addition to talent and hard work. Just because they don’t become superstars overnight it doesn’t mean they can’t achieve long term success in their chosen markets or even superstardom eventually. In a nutshell, it should be about finding people who have what it takes to make it at the end of the day.

  • Anonymous

    I’m beginning to miss Steven Tyler and Jlo. Can’t believe I just said that.

  • Anonymous

    Finding a younger judge need not be limited to the world of Disney bubblegum pop. Haley Williams is also young and also has a pretty large following in the tween/teen demo. She would be beneficial to contestants who are interested in breaking into mainstream rock as she knows how to successfully do rock/pop crossovers, plus she’s arguably more articulate than the other names you mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    I want a fresh panel.  Randy is the sludge clogging up the drain.  A pool can never get fresh until the clog is flushed through.  American Idol needs a large bottle of industrial strength Draino.

  • Anonymous

     Why? I don’t know much about Brad. If you had a reason it would be interesting to hear.

  • Anonymous

    I think Brad would make a great judge. It’s clear that he has a lot of respect for the talents of past Idols by having them on his shows…..Scotty now for instance.

    I wonder if he will wear his hat? lol

  • justmefornow

    If they put Haley on the panel, I know one teen that would tune back in, my daughter. She’s a HUGE Paramore fan. Paramore and Evanescence, pretty much are her favs.
    Not all teens like that Disney bubblegum pop, some actually have more sophisticated taste in music. 
    Thank God!

  • Anonymous

     

    Well he’s obviously popular amongst “country” artists, but honestly those of us who don’t listen to country music wouldn’t know him from a hole in the wall. Having heard a name is not the same as knowing anything, or caring anything, about him.

    Most people aren’t familiar with songs outside of the genre of music that they are personally interested in.  I’m sure that not everyone is familiar with Gaga, Carrie, Rihanna or Katy Perry’s songs, but just like you with Brad Paisley, they know their names, which shows that these people are stars.  Besides, people don’t need to be familiar with Brad in order for him to be a good judge.

  • Anonymous

    In 12 season, only Kelly has had a sustained impact outside of the US. and other than her, only Jordin saw a huge impact with her music internationally, and that was just with one album.  The point of the show is that anyone can achieve their dream, no matter what genre they are in.  That’s why US viewers watch the show.

  • Anonymous

     “It could also have been a condition in MC’s contract that no C-lister
    would be allowed to share the judging panel with her. Didn’t someone
    mention the possibility in an article somewhere? ”

    Yeah, I have a vague recollection of some such rumor, too, now that you mention it.

  • blackberryharvest

    Wow, I’m surprised that people are actually complaining about Brad Paisley being on the panel. He would be GREAT for idol. He is still making hits, he’s relevant, he is one of the biggest country stars of the 21st century(way bigger than Blake Shelton), and a lot of younger people like him. Most people in their 20s and 30s would rather see him in concert than Demi Lovato. Despite almost being 40, he definitely has a bunch of fans under 40. Are people just worried that idol found somebody that may actually help the show, when they want it to fail? Brad would be a great choice. It doesn’t matter if he sings country or isn’t a pop star. We already have that in Mariah.

  • luvadamlambert

    I JUST WANT TO KNOW NOWWW

    I.am.desparate

    I mean I know theres like NO chance of Adam…but I still want a decent panel

  • Anonymous

     “The show started off with one C-lister and two no listers and it
    worked perfectly.  They are now trying to compete with The Voice, Duets
    and X-Factor when what they should be doing it trying to get the show
    back to it’s original intent, which is finding a global superstar. 

    Making it all about the judges is what has killed this show over the last four or five seasons IMO”

    Yes, ITA.

    All I was saying was, once they got a major *stah* on there, the thing would be out of whack if they didn’t somehow balance that stah (read: massive ego; used to everybody else deferring to her/him constantly; will likely read to the audience as somebody that everybody constantly defers to; unlikely to ever say anything that will make her/him unpopular, etc.) with somebody else who triggers a little deference or else they’d risk having the star in question dominate the whole thing.

    My dream panel would be somebody from The Sing-Off and a couple smart people from the production or business ends of the industry. And, above all, people who would make it entirely about the contestants.

    But, as you mention, life has killed the dream I dreamed.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking that last week, but if Brad is hired I just don’t see Miley rounding out that panel, unless they add a dreaded 4th judge. I think they still need a younger judge though. I think the chemistry would be off with Miley.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    Randy, Mariah and Brad …. that would by far the most boring judging
    panel of the three big singing TV shows. Just nothing fresh about it.

    From what I have seen, Mariah has more personality in her pinky finger than Britney Spears does, and has sold more. LA and Simon are just as annoying as Randy. Brad is way more relevant and well known than Demi. He is also more successful than Blake Shelton. Mariah has had more recent hits than Christina.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3NQHPT3NA6VGKK22RCMTGOCII Tiffany

    If Brad signs, I think he will rue the day he did after dealing with Mariah.  Brad is very laid back and probably not inclined to take her on verbally so will have to suffer in silence.  I do not like Toby Keith but maybe that wouldve been awesome.  He has no filter and could put her in her place.  Randy, just go.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Music’ is just about blissfully irrelevant to the music ‘industry’.

  • luvadamlambert

    Every season after 8 was boring to me…I can barely name the rotating judges or winners
    And I don’t Plan on watching any other singing shows

    Edit: but I can’t judge brad too much since I dont know much about him..

  • Anonymous

    ” I have NO idea who Brad Paisley is.  Yes, I’ve ‘heard’ of him, but
    couldn’t name 1 song he sings… since I’m not a country fan and don’t
    listen to country music stations.  Is he clever? witty? funny?
    interested to a judging panel? ”

    Well, he seems to be pretty smart; he’s definitely funny; he seems to be pretty welcoming to beginners who’ve toured with him and opened for him and such; he seems to be a pretty good musician with both talent and training; he seems kind of down to earth; and his music is pretty rock-tinged, so he’s got more than one genre going on.

    From the not very much I’ve seen of him, I think he could be a good choice — *if* they insist on choosing big stars. Which they do.

  • Anonymous

    Brad seems like a great choice just like Blake Shelton was, for us non-country fans.  They aren’t “too country” and are nice looking with a sense of humor which helps in a Judge position.

    Absolutely NO to Miley Cyrus.  She is all kinds of wrong for American Idol.  She comes across as sort of skanky and spoiled and self absorbed, has a horrible singing and speaking voice, can’t speak without “umms” and “yeahs”, etc.

    Selena Gomez is more the type that AI should hire if they want a young girl judge.  Squeaky clean, beautiful, talented and mature.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    I don’t think American Idol will ever again produce a star of any kind:
    not American, not international. For God’s sake, they struggle to
    produce a major label recording artist with at least two successful
    albums these days. 

    The show is now blissfully irrelevant to the music industry and TPTB are doing nothing to change that.

    Scotty is doing good so far. Also, I think idol is more likely to find another star than X Factor.

  • luvadamlambert

    unless people dig too much into her because she IS Justin bieber’s gf..and a ton of people hate him (obviously he has a ton of fans too or he wouldn’t be that successful )

    I don’t think they will but just saying

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    You gotta wonder if people who want to see the show fail are the ones who think its “bad” for the show by bringing him on.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    I’ve been a fan of Brad’s since his career first hit the air waves…as I wrote on another thread, Idol would be lucky to have him…he really is funny, his vids are his ideas for the most part, he writes his own hilarious songs….talented and musically-skilled…I would be watching.

    I also do hope that there will be a younger third judge, just because that would round out the panel…don’t know who, but so far I’m liking TPTB’s choices…

    By the way, I’m such a country fan that I couldn’t tell you what Mariah Carey sings…in reference to those who don’t know what Brad sings–it does go both ways:)) 

  • BonnieDee

    Brad is funny and a joker.  He and Carrie won an award recently for “Remind Me,” (Can’t remember which award) and when the award was announced Brad stood up and he and Carrie’s husband Mike embraced, leaving Carrie standing off to the side.  Hilarious.  

  • Anonymous

    Haley Williams may be articulate (I wouldn’t know…I don’t follow her closely) but there is 0 chance she will be considered on the Idol panel b/c I don’t see AI taking a chance on someone who is a relative unknown to most of the TV viewing public. From everything I’m reading AI wants immediate buzz to pick up ratings again and I don’t see her providing that short term even among tweens/teens (my 2 tween/teen daughters say they have never heard of her and they follow all that stuff.)

    Do I agree with that strategy, if that’s the case? No. I’d prefer judges who actually give good constructive criticism and honest opinions (aka, AGT) no matter their level of celebrity status. But, I also understand AI’s reasoning for wanting popular personalities to boost ratings.

  • Anonymous

    True, but Ellen Degenerus was a star, and she was the worst judge in the history of Idol. Brad will have to bring something else to the table besides his “star” power – as was proven with Steven Tyler and JLo. Big stars with little to offer.

    But if he’s hired, here’s his time to PROVE his worth to Idol in his comments. Don’t know anything about him, but like I said in a previous post, I’ll reserve total judgement until I see him on Idol.

  • windmills

    EDIT: Now part of the main post.

    curly_yenta: As a host of award shows, all that is written for him (and everyone who takes on that role), so that isn’t a good indication of how he can ad-lib as a judge on Idol or what sort of advice he is going to dish out – or how entertaining he is in that format.

    Brad & Carrie cowrite the CMA Awards show with head writer David Wild (@Wildaboutmusic), who’s worked with Taylor on something or the other IIRC (his book maybe?). And, the ad-libbing thing is why I included the unscripted presser Brad did with Carrie. I can find many other examples of Brad being funny off the cuff (he’s also a notorious prankster). You’d asked if he was clever, funny, and/or witty, and I tried to provide some recent examples of him being all of the above. There’s also his Twitter account. All of this can give you an idea of Brad’s sense of humor, which is dry, understated, quick, and smart. 

    curly_yenta: Also, Idol’s audience is not “his” audience, per se, so his reception may not be the same as on a country awards show where they seem to relate more to him, but I’ll reserve judgement until we see his skill in that area. 

    I’m glad you’ll reserve judgment :) 

    It’s so weird because I love Brad for Idol but I don’t know if I love Idol for Brad. If he does Idol I hope it turns out to be an experience he enjoys. 

    irockhard: Finding a younger judge need not be limited to the world of Disney bubblegum pop. Haley Williams is also young and also has a pretty large following in the tween/teen demo. She would be beneficial to contestants who are interested in breaking into mainstream rock as she knows how to successfully do rock/pop crossovers, plus she’s arguably more articulate than the other names you mentioned.

    Hayley Williams sounds like a great idea to me. Probably a pipe dream for Idol but I guess you never know?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    There is no way in hell that Mariah is going to allow another female on this panel. I am sure her contract stipulated she was to be the only Queen Bee!

  • Kitwana

    If Idol really wants to blow X-Factor out of the water from a PR standpoint, it should offer a judging position to Lady Gaga. She is still relatively young at 26 (although obviously not Demi Lovato young) and is liked by Tweens and teens. A panel with Mariah, Brad and Gaga would, in my opinion have more star power than X-Factor with Britney and Demi or even the Voice for that matter. Just imagine the conversations between Gaga and Mariah! TV gold.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Have you seen Gaga’s touring schedule?

  • Larc

    According to the calendar on his site, Brad’s performing schedule is mostly Thursday through Saturday.  October 17 is the only Wednesday performance he has scheduled.  Mondays and Tuesdays are all clear.  Idol should certainly be able to work around that.

  • Anonymous

    From everything I’m reading AI wants immediate buzz to pick up ratings again and I don’t see her providing that short term even among tweens/teens (my 2 tween/teen daughters say they have never heard of her and they follow all that stuff.)

    They haven’t heard of B.O.B.’s Airplanes?  She sang the hook on it.  #2 BB Hot 100, 2 Pop, #2 Rap.  4x platinum.  It was a HUGE hit.

    They haven’t heard of the Twilight soundtrack?  Paramore’s Decode was the single from it.  Only #36 on pop, but top #5 on Alt and it went platinum.

    I don’t think they need three equally huge name judges.  I think they need judges who have a degree of name recognition and might attract different audiences.  She would do that given the other two, IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    I love the idea of Halley Williams — and if they add her to the judging panel they might win me back.

    I didn’t think the judges mattered that much but I really could not take the Randy-JoLo-Steven judging panel and their self-promotion anymore. I am a prooud part of the -23% ratings drop last year. With me, goes my entire household.

    Seems to me that Randy-Mariah-Brad would be just as tiresome as the last panel.

    I would be thrilled if they moved Randy off the panel to be a mentor. Then added a current pop/rock artist/producer, a current urban artist/producer, to Mariah and Brad. Four judges, covering the 4 big music areas. It is not that hard to figure it out — look at The Voice.

    Fix the judges. Then, focus on the contestants and really search for talent (no more joke contestants). Oh, and ban the guitars. And create some better categories. And fix the voting to make it fair. And….

    I expect to be watching The Voice this Fall. Not so sure about Idol.

  • Anonymous

    I would’ve preferred Gaga over Mariah to TBH but she’s way too busy.

  • Kitwana

    Mateja: Beyond 2012, Gaga seems to have lots of unconfirmed dates. If Idol wanted, it could probably pay Gaga enough (salary, promo, side projects, movies) to keep enough of them unconfirmed so she could do Idol. To me, putting Gaga on a panel with Mariah and Brad/Miley would be genius. All big names, all A list. Game, set and match in battle for big name judges against X-Factor and the Voice. I know many on this site wanted Clay, Taylor or Adam to be on the panel but in my opinion, they would simply not bring the same punch as Gaga, even if they do turn out to be good judges.

  • OffLeash

    Me too, and I don’t like this panel. The judges have always been an important factor on Idol, no matter how some people here are denying it. At least half the post episodes online discussions have always been about the judges, mostly hating on them tbh LOL.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Brad is not a “star” like JLo and Steven. He’s a low key guy with a strong sense of humour and a lot of smarts. Totally different personality type.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    > It’s so weird because I love Brad for Idol but I don’t know if I love
    Idol for Brad. If he does Idol I hope it turns out to be an experience
    he enjoys.

    I feel exactly the same way, Windmills. I’d take Brad over Idol any day.

  • windmills

    OffLeash: At least half the post episodes online discussions have always been about the judges, mostly hating on them tbh LOL.

    Yes, because that’s their role on AI – they’re supposed to be lightning rods and often absorb the disagreement/criticism/resentment of the viewers (when they reject/criticize your special snowflake). Whoever the judges are, somebody’s going to disagree with them but the ultimate focus is still the contestants. 

    The difference between AI and The Voice/XFactor though is AI’s ratings down the stretch have generally depended more than the other 2 shows on the strength of the cast of contestants. So when people have said the judges don’t matter as much as the contestants on AI, that’s why. It’s about the show’s ratings/buzz depending more on the conversation the contestants inspire, at least relative to the other shows whose ratings/buzz depend more on their judges and the judges’ ups and downs/bickering.

  • Anonymous

    I’m for getting rid of the instruments, it’s not like the contestants have been that creative with them anyway, instruments really don’t add much IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Me too, and I don’t like this panel. The judges have always been an important factor on Idol, no matter how some people here are denying it.  At least half the post episodes online discussions have always been about the judges, mostly hating on them tbh LOL.

    I don’t think that there’s a good reason yet to dislike the panel.  There are two primary objections to judges:  They aren’t credible in the field, and they aren’t credible on the job.

    MC and BP, as was pointed out, are both more credible in the field (in terms of recent success coupled with longevity) than the other judges we’ve had when they came in.  There is a ceiling to how popular and in-demand artists can be and still be willing to do this, and I think Gaga is probably above it.

    As for being credible on the job, MC was generally considered a good mentor and BP has been an informal one to young stars.  The biggest strike against them is that they are too likely to be nice to preserve their careers.  But I’d think that would actually be just as much a strike against Gaga, since her entire ethos is “everyone, however weird or offbeat, is a speshul speshul snowflake and I love all my monsters.”

    I’m not saying that they won’t turn out to be a bad panel; they easily might, especially if the producers keep trying to feed them critiques.  But I’m reserving judgment.

  • Anonymous

     Yes, Brad Paisley is genuinely a country star, bigger than Blake Shelton (who you probably also never heard of, unless you’ve watched “The Voice”).  I am not a big fan of Brad’s voice, but he really is clever, witty, and funny.  Also just an incredibly nice guy.  Yes, really!  Brad and Carrie are good foils for each other, but they are nothing alike in personality.  (And I am not dissing either one by saying that.)  Perhaps to those who hear the word “country” and automatically turn up their nose, Brad as a judge might be a turnoff.  But as my grandmother used to say when trying to get me to eat vegetables as a kid, “Try it!  You might like it!”  If people tune in (even if just out of curiosity), I doubt anyone will stop watching the show because of Brad as a judge.  They are much more likely to get reeled into another season of Idol.  Yes, he’s that good.

  • Anonymous

     Also, as someone else said, I am not sure that having a country judge will change the nature of the contestants much, if at all.  We’ve had country contestants before, with no country judges.  But the country contestants are still a small proportion of the overall contestants who actually get anywhere on Idol. 

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    IMO Randy is out as a judge.  He will be a mentor or have some other function.  Miriah will be the only female. She would not have it any other way.

    I am down with Adam Lambert, Miriah and Paisley! 

  • OffLeash

    There are no rules saying why people should like or dislike a show for. Judges are an important factor to me where Idol is concerned, and I don’t like the new panel, especially Mariah. I have disliked other Idol panels before, but Idol was the only show in town then. It isn’t anymore, and now I can pick and choose. The judging panel obviously isn’t as important to everybody, and if it is, many will be happy with the choices I’m sure. 

  • Mateja Praznik

    Last Wednesday, Deadline reported Randy Jackson signed with a new management or something. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad that you are reserving judgment.  Anyone who had seen a Brad Paisley show — or any of his tour mates — can tell you that Brad is genuinely funny.  The man definitely can ad-lib.  Actually, I could see Brad & Taylor Hicks liking each other and getting along.  (Most artists like and respect their peers in other genres.)

    But at the end of the day, none of us will know how the judging panel (Mariah, Brad, or anyone else) will do until we see them in action.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Casey was creative with his instruments.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    Oh no. I don’t like the direction AI is going if they chose him. 

  • s k

    Idol was brand spanking new when Kelly won it and she was riding a wave of *its* popularity, not only her own.

    Kelly’s popularity is what made Idol popular and some could argue that Idol rode Kelly’s wave more than she rode theirs’.  Kelly’s debut album hit #1 in April 2003 against 50 cent (totally unexpected and quite an accomplishment).   Kelly’s first single Miss Independent Hit #1 on Pop radio and stayed there for 6 or 7 weeks.  Then in the summer of 2004 Kelly released a song for the Pricess Diaries Disney movie which would go on to become the most successful song on AC radio charts, clocking 21 weeks at #1. 

    Her sophmore album came out in December 04, before Season 4 where Carrie would be crowned the winner and before that season was over Kelly had the world wide smash and genre hopping song Since U Been Gone under her belt and Kelly never once appeared on idol to promote that album, which went on to sell 13 million copies world wide. 

    Many could opine that had Kelly not been successful Idol would have faded as just another variety show like Star Search.  Kelly proved, through her success, that Idol was a different type of show and they need to get back to what the show was back then….  

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     I agree.  I think Mariah will be the only female.  IF another woman shows up on the panel it will be because they went with 4 judges and found a younger, more subservient female to sit on the panel (who would worship Mariah accordingly).  Kinda like how Demi is worshipping Britney on X-Factor.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I would be very pleased to have Brad as a judge on American Idol.  I think he would balance out Mariah comments and personality.  He’s funny and seems like an honest man, that is if Idol will let the judges say what they want to say!

    I just do not want to see Randy and Mariah on the same panel.  I hope Randy moves on the mentoring the contestants with their best interests at stake.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I am glad that he is seriously thinking about it. Seriously, he will be the best judge, and most likely won’t get annoying. He won’t take crap, either.

  • Anonymous

     I am not convinced it would be a good career move for Adam to be a judge on Idol.  I have no doubt that he is capable of being a good judge.  But he is still establishing himself at radio (which he needs to get him to the next level quicker).

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Honestly, I generally couldn’t give 2 sh**ts about country music but I have no problem with Idol putting a country star on the panel.  It panders directly to their core demographic.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    [quote] I’m glad that you are reserving judgment.  Anyone who had seen a Brad
    Paisley show — or any of his tour mates — can tell you that Brad is
    genuinely funny.  The man definitely can ad-lib. [/quote]

    Excellent point. I have seen Brad in concert. I am not a fan but one of my closest friends is. He is quite good and I really am not a Country music fan. I found most of his humor funny but some a bit too old fashioned for my taste — but that is nitpicking. IMO, if Idol gets him, he will be an entertaining judge. And he is very popular — possibly the most popular Country male artist.

    As long as they get some genre balance. And as long as Randy is not sitting there chair-filling, I will give Idol another chance. But if it is Randy, Brad and Mariah, (and they keep the guitars), I am probably not giving Idol another chance. I have a lot of other things to do with my time. And the show has just gotten repetitive and predictable and tiresome.

  • OffLeash

    ITA. Although I don’t like the panel, I think it’s an excellent move from the execs to pander to Idol’s faithful audience. Idol is too old to reinvent itself by trying to woo a different, younger audience. Not with the new competition anyway. 

  • Anonymous

    But what I’m saying is that we haven’t seen the new panel in action yet.  Or really anything that MC has done lately. We’ve seen Nick Cannon shooting his mouth off.  That’s it.

    I thought I liked Cee Lo Green until his Voice slot exposed what a defensive baby he is on Twitter (altough I don’t watch the show).  The reverse is just as possible, IMO.

    So it has nothing to do with whether or not judging is important to people; it has to do with not knowing how they’ll be as judges until they get there.

  • Anonymous

    Singing the hook of one hit and a track on a soundtrack doesn’t give you the kind of name recognition of a Mariah Carey, JLo, Steven Tyler, and now Brad Paisley. And there are absolutely no indications that TPTB are willing to take a chance on a lower profile singer. 

    Believe me, I don’t mind if they did. Actually, I might be more interested in watching Idol again if they had guest judges every week from different genres that had some sort of connection with the theme of the week.  

  • V Jemmy

     

    As a host of award shows, all that is written for him (and everyone who takes on that role)

    It’s written to a point, but there are some things that have to be done on the fly.  Anyone who watched David Letterman hosts the Oscars can really tell just much a host of an award show needs to be able to think on their feet.  (I still cringe thinking about Oprah/Uma).

  • Larc

    nvm – too far off topic

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Singing the hook of one hit and a track on a soundtrack doesn’t give you the kind of name recognition of a Mariah Carey, JLo, Steven Tyler, and now Brad Paisley.

    Um…. those were Hayley Williams’ biggest hits, not her entire discography. Paramore’s not exactly obscure in alt-rock circles.

    And there are absolutely no indications that TPTB are willing to take a chance on a lower profile singer.

    Well, except for what a FOX executive said at TCA a week ago. MJ reported on it here:

    Additional judges are expected to be announced shortly, with Reilly noting that in a nod to the first season of Idol, they could be fresh faces. “There are some ‘nobodys’ in the mix, there are some people who are not a household name,” he said, citing Jimmy Iovine who wasn’t a household name when he boarded the series.

    I’d count that as an indication, maybe even a hint.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah he was an exception.

  • OffLeash

    I’m not particularly interested in seeing those judges in action is what I’m saying. I don’t have time nor can I handle watching two talent shows during the same season. Right now, I plan to watch XF in the fall and The Voice in the Spring. I could change my mind, but that’s the plan for now because of the direction I can guess Idol’s going. Of course I’ve been bored with Idol for a while too, so it isn’t new. 

  • Anonymous

    I think the rumors that kept floating around about Lambert (which Lythgoe, by directly addressing them on Twitter, kept alive even while trying to shut fan spamming down), make it clear that they were at least considering the possibility of lower profile singers.

    Haley Williams fronts a band that has a gold album, a platinum, and a near-platinum album to its credit, along with three platinum singles and two golds.  She’s worked with tons of people, including a live duet with TSwift, and now B.O.B., so she’s all over the map. 

    I just don’t think she’s as unknown as you do.

    But I agree that it would be cool if TPTB were flexible in thinking about what judges could really bring to the table, particularly for theme weeks.

  • Anonymous

    Well then, based on that quote, I stand corrected.

    Commence with the Hayley Williams speculation. lol

  • Anonymous

    Well, I get time constraints.  That’s why I don’t watch any of them.  But I do tubey AI when people tell me a performance is worth it.  I don’t tubey the Voice or XF because I don’t expect the contestants to have as big a network to rely on after the show, and I’m interested in these shows mostly for their merits as career development tools.

  • Anonymous

    I think people should reserve judgment on all the judges until they actually see them judge. Who knows Mariah could actually be mean? Brad Paisley is country, but he could do what Blake did for The Voice & win over non-country fans. 

    I like Mariah, but I’m not interested in her as a judge. But if she can be critical & good for the show I will change my mind. I’m a country fan & Brad fan. But if Brad isn’t good on the show I will criticize him for it. I will “tell it like it is” even if I’m a fan.

    I’ve watched Idol since the beginning. I watched when they hired Ellen, hired Kara, stayed through hearing Randy say “dawg” too many times to count, hearing Steven say beautiful many times, etc. I will keep watching Idol until it ends no matter what.

    All I’m saying is we don’t know how these new judges will judge. We should give them a chance before we see them even if you don’t like country music, Mariah, Randy, etc.

  • OffLeash

    Sure, if I hear about a great performance, I’ll youtube it. I’ve been following Idol on an almost weekly basis, so I can make time for one weekly episode. I hardly ever watch the results shows anymore, way too much filling, and I youtube the auditions because I hate the auditions episodes.

  • Larc

    I hope they all really get a chance to judge instead of having to abide by Nigel’s weekly marching orders.  If he tries to tell them how to react to contestants’ performances, I hope they all tell him to go to hell.

  • Anonymous

    I think you are missing my point. I am not saying at all that Paramore is not successful nor “unpopular”. I just don’t believe that if you asked 10 people off the street who Hayley Williams is, no more than *maybe* a few would know. To take it even further, I would even bet that maybe just even a few more would know who David Grohl is.  

    I think those of us posting here are judging these singers as being “popular” or “household names” from a very narrow perspective. From my viewpoint, the people that post regularly on MJs are more interested and invested in music than the avg. Idol viewer (the amt. of music sold post-Idol seems to attest to this fact.) so would recognize far more names than the avg. Joe/Josephine.

  • Anonymous

    I can see Mariah standing up to Nigel. I’m not sure about Brad. But I think if Brad feels like he needs to say things to contestants he will say them. 

    I see Brad as the type to “mentor” these Idols. Since he has “taken under his wing” Carrie, Scotty, & Kellie I think he will genuinely want the best for these contestants so he will tell them things he sees in performances.

  • Anonymous

    Neither of us know for sure, but I believe the host of the Oscars, i.e., Letterman, Crystal and any other host, esp comedians, contributes majorly and has pretty much total control over the content of their monologue.  For people like Paisley, who host the CMA’s, who’s NOT a comedian or standup by trade, I’d be willing to bet he has far less control and does not write a word of what he says in the show (unless it’s an adlib).

  • Anonymous

    Well, sure, plenty of your average “satisfied” viewers in the AI demo couldn’t pick any of them out of the lineup.  I said that she wasn’t as well known as the other judges; I put that out front when I suggested her a few days ago.

    But she does have a different base and focus than the other two judges, so I won’t discount her ability to bring along some of those people.  If 1/5 of her Twitter followers check her out and add 500K to the demo rating, I think AI would take that.  Are there others out there who might add more?  Yes, but that’s not the only consideration once you have two legitimately big names already, IMO.

    I just wanted to make the point that she does have proven appeal to the younger demo even if she’s not an immediate household name to average AI viewers.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    For people like Paisley, who host the CMA’s, who’s NOT a comedian or standup by trade, I’d be willing to bet he has far less control and does not write a word of what he says in the show (unless it’s an adlib).

    I will totally take that bet, as you would lose. Right here is a Carrie Underwood/Brad Paisley interview from 2009 in which they talk about how Paisley does a lot of the writing and planning for the CMA monologues.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but I’m not convinced.  Monologues for award shows like the CMA’s or other music award shows, sans the Oscars, are not written by the performer. They are written by professional writers. That’s why there is a writer’s credit at the end of the show.

    But whatever the case there, ultimately that is no indication of how good he would be as an Idol judge. That remains to be seen.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

    There are no rules saying why people should like or dislike a show for.
    Judges are an important factor to me where Idol is concerned, and I
    don’t like the new panel, especially Mariah. I have disliked other Idol
    panels before, but Idol was the only show in town then. It isn’t
    anymore, and now I can pick and choose. The judging panel obviously
    isn’t as important to everybody, and if it is, many will be happy with
    the choices I’m sure.

    I am fine with both Mariah and Brad and will still watch even if Randy is the 3rd judge, though I’d love to see him replaced as well. What I DON’T want is a former idol sitting in as judge, unless it’s Kelly.

  • chessguy99

    We wonder if they can get it done so BP could make an appearance at the Aug. 12 AI auditions at Nashville’s Bridgestone Arena.

    There are no auditions listed for Nashville on the 12th. According to the official website, all the cattle-calls are done. So, are we going to get a surprise extra audition city? Have the completed audition cattle-calls been so lean they need to hit Nashville?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     

    Actually, I could see Brad & Taylor Hicks liking each other and getting along.

    I could see that, too. Taylor seems to get along with everyone and has a cute personality. I also enjoy seeing him on TV in whatever capacity, but there’s no way I can see IDOL asking him to be on the judging panel! I think it still pains them to have to admit he won Season 5. :)

  • OffLeash

    With today’s new rumors, it doesn’t look like we’ll see an Idol alum on the panel, at least in a permanent position, which is the way it should be. If an alum on the panel is too harsh with their former peers, people will lash out at them, if they’re too soft, people will say they had no business being a judge. Lose-lose IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Even if he didn’t write any of the monologues for the award shows, if you watch any of Brad’s interviews he has a witty sense of humor. That cannot be fake.

    It’s possible it doesn’t translate to the live shows if he becomes a judge. But very few people can fake being funny. He’s not an actor & never has been one. 

    You’re either funny or you’re not. From the videos I’ve seen of Brad (some live interviews, too), he has a great sense of humor & is funny.

  • Anonymous

    The best scenario imo would be 2 new judges (Mariah and ?) and then rotating a third judge in every week.  That would keep the show fresh and interesting and get a constantly changing dynamic.  Rotating ex-Idols in would be a brilliant idea.  But if they decide not to do that, at least rotate someone in there like they were doing for a while in the early seasons… I remember Manilow judging and Robin Gibb and a host of others.  That was great. Then, get ex-Idols to do some mentoring. That would also save on their budget.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     

    With today’s new rumors, it doesn’t look like we’ll see an Idol alum on
    the panel, at least in a permanent position, which is the way it should
    be.

    Gosh, I hope that’s true. I’ve missed the new rumors – what (or where) can I find them?

  • OffLeash

    Check the Pharrell and Nick Jonas thread here. 

  • Anonymous

    I rarely watch TV (still don’t) – the only reason I watched Idol was my family told me around Season 5 or 6 (don’t remember) that there was this nasty, amusing Brit judge (my kinda people) that I’d find entertaining.  I did.  Hung on and then Lambert came in S8 so I had two people I was interested in watching.  Then both left.  For me, never been the same.

    MJ put up a vid of Gokey’s singing Mariah’s “Hero” a couple of day ago.  Kara, Randy, Paula all went berserk – like it was the second coming.  Then, flip to Simon who said – eyes rolling – “now back to the real world.” 

    That’s what’s missing – whether or not Simon was correct in his assessments, he had nothing to lose.  And that’s IMO what we need – not someone needing a career boost, or who has a new album/single coming down the pike.  Someone who’s not afraid of telling a contestant the truth – not afraid of hurting their precious feelings.  Judges shouldn’t be babysitters – the music biz (especially today) is hard, hard, hard.  They should know that.

    Whether Paisley or Carey can fill that role – have no idea – but it doesn’t look promising.

  • windmills

    curly_yenta: Sorry, but I’m not convinced.  Monologues for award shows like the CMA’s
    or other music award shows, sans the Oscars, are not written by the
    performer. They are written by professional writers. That’s why there is
    a writer’s credit at the end of the show.

    If you’d read my earlier reply to you, you would know that Brad & Carrie cowrite the CMA show with head writer David Wild (@Wildaboutmusic:disqus ), who also coauthored Taylor Hicks’s memoir.

    That’s part of the reason Carrie & Brad start CMA awards show prep months ahead of time. They’ve had more and more of a writing role as they’ve settled in as hosts though obviously, a professional TV writer like David Wild has a major role and there’s a team of people who put together a show. I already linked to video where Carrie talks about how brutal they are in writing meetings to get the funniest stuff. If you want concrete examples, a couple are listed in the article Eilonwy linked. I believe the adorable middle aged male couple/Brooks & Dunn/Modern Family joke from 2010 was Brad’s idea.

  • Anonymous

    We’re just going around in circles here.  Let’s agree to disagree with who writes the monologues for the CMA’s. I still believe that pro writers are responsible for the majority, if not all, of what is said on these shows, regardless of what is said in PR interviews.

    And really, it’s not relevant to what sort of a job BP would do for Idol.  It’s oil and water. He won’t have ‘months of prep time’ each week to prepare. On paper, I thought Steven Tyler would be a whole lot better than he was. So even IF you are right about his writing his own monologue for his once a year hosting duties on the CMA’s, that’s no indication if he has the skills to be an effective and entertaining judge for Idol on a weekly basis.  Nobody yet has risen to the quality judge Simon was, so I’m skeptical that BP is the magic “star” some are making him out to be.

  • MissMyEm

    I don’t really get into American Idol much anymore or rather I should say I’m not as excited about it as I use to be, but I do think it’s a good idea to have a country singer on the show as a judge.   I’m not a Mariah fan nor a Brad Paisley fan, but they are from two different genres of music and to me that is a good thing.   

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     Thank you. I will go read that thread.

  • windmills

    curly_yenta: regardless of what is said in PR interviews.

    The source of this info is more than just PR interviews though. David Wild has tweeted throughout the CMA Awards shows the past few years and the day after, and he’s given us lots of behind the scenes tidbits including crediting Brad & Carrie for specific ideas, revealing jokes that were dropped, and stuff like that. You can go back and look at his tweets :)

    curly_yenta: Nobody yet has risen to the quality judge Simon was,

    We’re talking about the same Simon Cowell who couldn’t remember Kelly Clarkson in the middle rounds of the competition and who championed Lee DeWyze right? To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon had been fed some of his Idol lines by a writer over the years.

    I believe Brad’s performance as a judge would depend on whether the producers micromanage the judging and give notes like they did with JLo/Steven. If they don’t, then I’m confident in Brad’s ability to be quick-witted and sharp, helping both the show and the contestants. He’d be the sharpest and most quick witted judge they’ve ever had on this show. If they do micromanage, then I don’t see Brad enjoying himself very much for the season. I’m sure some of the meetings this week will be devoted to Brad trying to get a feel for how the show will operate and what kind of space he’ll have to work within.

    That’s one thing that may actually be a tick against him as a judge: I don’t think he’s ever watched AI. Though, he’ll probably have done his homework going into the meetings and I’d guess he’s also talked to Carrie some.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, but I’m not that interested in David Wilds tweets about the CMAs.

    And as far as Simon Cowell, yep, we are talking about the same person.  He made Idol the show it ‘was’.  He was witty, funny, truthful and entertaining and like I said earlier, no one has been able to rise to his level.  He’s not as good as a judge on the x-factor in my opinion, but those early years on Idol…. seasons 1-9 were Golden and has never been the same since (without him).

  • http://twitter.com/BamadansPad Danny Latham

    I think they meant the Idols Live Tour stops in Nashville on Aug 12. Not an audition.  We still have the audition bus tour with dates yet to be announced. 

  • Karen C

    Kara, Randy, Paula all went berserk – like it was the second coming. Then, flip to Simon who said – eyes rolling – “now back to the real world.”

    I think that’s what’s missing too.  The other side of that is sometimes he would say to a contestant that they had a performance that would stand up in the real world, and those did usually turn out to be the contestants that did well, even afterwards.

  • Anonymous

    I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that Brad Paisley is smart, funny and can think on his feet–qualities that bode well for success on the judges’ panel. Even if I felt otherwise initially, I’d be rethinking my opinion. The evidence presented here is pretty hard to ignore.

    And, yes, Idol has fallen on hard times, but nothing, NOTHING will lead me to indulge in revisionist thinking about Simon Cowell.  He phoned in his critiques his last few years on Idol. He was every bit as lame and boring as Randy Jackson with his trite criticisms.  TAKE A DRINK everytime Simon calls a contestant a drunken wedding singer! Calling a classic Beatles’ tune “a song about birds”. Uhm.  Displaying complete ignorance of certain genres like country? Oy. He needed to leave the show, and I’m glad he’s gone.

    Having said that, we do need a truth teller on the show. But a REAL truth teller. Because Simon was every bit as capable of shoveling bull as Steven and Jlo. It wasn’t always positive bull, but it was bull nonetheless. If Idol honchos try, they can do MUCH better than Simon. It would be great to have an industry type on the panel who actually has some musical knowledge, as well as an understanding of the music biz.

  • Anonymous

    Well said! I always thought the last few years Simon was on you could tell his criticisms were the same criticisms he had given years prior. 

    I agree Simon was capable of shoveling bull like the other judges, too. I highly doubt he thought Lee was as great every week like he said especially compared to the other contestants.

  • Kirsten

     

    I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that Brad Paisley is smart,
    funny and can think on his feet–qualities that bode well for success on
    the judges’ panel. Even if I felt otherwise initially, I’d be
    rethinking my opinion. The evidence presented here is pretty hard to
    ignore.

    Totally agreed.

    I think that Brad will bring intelligence and humour to the panel. He knows a lot about music and has always been friendly to Idols (i.e. he’s not somebody who has held the show and contestants in contempt and now just signing on for the big paycheque). He would be our first judge with a country influence (a major genre in the US), but is also knowledgeable about other genres. Bonus: He’s not afraid to laugh at himself.

    I think Idol would be lucky to get him.

  • breakdown

    I think Simon got bored with Idol but imo he was the main reason for it’s success. Having the Simon/Paula squabbles at times could be entertaining too. Every show gets stale and it’s pretty near impossible to re-invent the wheel. Carrie and Brad write their own stuff for the CMAs? I’ve always found it to be pretty corny. :)

  • Anonymous

    Even his phoned in comments toward the end were far more entertaining than anything I’ve seen since in the judges chair… IMO.  Yep, he was annoying at times, but as I look back at some UTubes of him in the audition phases in the early years, I’m knocked on the floor laughing at his comments and facial expressions. In fact, even Randy Jackson was useful in an entertaining way in the early years. He has since gone totally downhill.  Having 3 judges cheerlead for the same people is boring as all heck to me.  I miss Cowell on the show.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    BRAVO, MJ!!! 

    I will never, ever miss the cruel, rude, and often uninformed opinion of Simon Cowell.  I want a judge who is honest, tells it like it is, but is not out to humiliate young people.  Talk to the majority of the Idols about Simon Cowell.  If he liked you, you were OK.  Otherwise, he could be a living nightmare.  WHEW!

    MJ, I am not a Country fan, but I enjoyed seeing Brad in concert.  He seems to have an easy-going personality which might balance Diva Mariah.  I hope they like each other.

    ETA: Okay, I will admit Simon had his moments like when he gave Adam a standing ovation or complimented Kimberley Locke on a wonderful performance.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Happyhexer, What a kind thing to say about both Brad and Taylor.  I really think Brad will work out if Idol signs him as a judge. Now, who will be the third judge?

  • Anonymous

    All you say may be true, but Idol has not, IMO, gotten any more entertaining or relevant since his departure.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

     

    All you say may be true, but Idol has not, IMO, gotten any more entertaining or relevant since his departure.

    I think it has. Example: Season 10 > Season 9.

    Case closed :)

  • Mateja Praznik

    Not really. Country teens were the only relevant contestants of season 10. I could imagine both as major label recording artists from their first performance on the show. That said, they are both country. Can IDol find anyone relevant outside of country? I doubt it. 

    Technically the best contestant of season 10 was Haley, but I knew she would struggle on a major label. 

    Everyone else sucked, just like season 9 cast. 

  • Anonymous

    This is because none of the judges were truth tellers, even a little bit.

    But the question is whether the judges are allowed to be this, or whether they have to follow the producers’ directives.

    I think that Simon Cowell had more freedom than the other judges, at least for the first seasons. But even on his own shows he is not a truth teller anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t know anything about the Brad P. part of your post, but Yes, Yes, Yes to the Simon Cowell part.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     I think he’d make a pretty decent judge. I’m not the biggest fan of country, but I know who he is and how popular and successful he’s been. He’s a great representative of his genre, and I’d like to see what he’d bring to the table.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I do like some people from S9 a great deal, and I consider the male midcard of S10 (Abrams, Langone, and McDonald) to be one of the most insufferable ever forced on us, but as a whole S10 did have a much more diverse cast.  I still think Adedapo could have gotten some more vocal coaching if she’d hung around and been one of the most interesting finalists ever.

    As I’ve said many times, the job of American idol is to celebrate the American songbook.  Cowell wasn’t nearly as open to different styles as the later judges, even if he did occasionally stumble into insightful invective instead of shoveling it for the producers’ sakes.

  • Anonymous

    Not the judging.  And without trenchant, useful commentary (whether one agrees with it or not), Idol becomes bland and boring.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

     Well I personally don’t watch for the judges.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    Not really. Country teens were the only relevant contestants of season 10. I
    could imagine both as major label recording artists from their first
    performance on the show. That said, they are both country. Can IDol find
    anyone relevant outside of country? I doubt it. 

    Technically the best contestant of season 10 was Haley, but I knew she would struggle on a major label. 

    Everyone else sucked, just like season 9 cast.

    That doesn’t explain the ratings increase, the tour attendance going up, and the sales going way up for Season 10. Bloggers everywhere also were saying “Idol is back!” Season 11 was also better than Season 9 for sure.

    The show survived without Simon and had better contestants without him.

  • Anonymous

    G, In case you missed the tweet from Wind-up:
    Secret show announced! @Evanescence will be playing a 2nd show in #AtlanticCity @HouseofBluesAC on 8/4 (this SATURDAY)! I think they are mistaken with the place they’ve added the show…Ticketmaster has the Carnival of Madness with Evanescence is actually at Harrah’s Philadelphia Casino on 8/4. This must be the new show added b/c I don’t remember seeing it previously or we would’ve considered going there. Here’s the link in case you and/or your daughter were interested:http://www.ticketmaster.com/search?tm_link=tm_homeA_header_search&user_input=carnival+of+madness&q=carnival+of+madness&search.x=0&search.y=0 

  • justmefornow

    I already have plans for Sat. :(  but I think you’re right about another show added in AC. This morning  I swore I heard on MGK a promo for the House of Blues on Sat and I was confused. I have to work late on Friday so Sat would have been good had I known sooner.
    Maybe next time around I’ll see them, (And maybe even James if he opens for them again next album tour!)
    Have fun Friday :)

  • Anonymous

     I don’t know that much about Taylor Hicks since I didn’t watch Idol back then, but from what I’ve seen of video clips and so forth, he struck me as a funny guy who likes to entertain people, and I think he has that in common with Brad Paisley.  So I could totally see the two of them getting along well.  (Not that it matters much, since I am not sure how likely it is that they would run into each other . . .)

    As for the third judge, I have no clue.  :-)  But I would really like to see someone with experience in the music business.