Here are some details on the Walmart 5 dollar CDs featuring Phillip PhillipsJessica SanchezJoshua LedetHollie Cavanagh and Skylar Laine. set to be available at retail stores and online on July 3. Each CD will contain a duet never before available for purchase: (Via Antimusic)

Walmart and Walmart.com have set a July 3 launch date for the new $5 dollar CDs featuring performances from last season’s top 5 finalists on American Idol. We were sent these details:
Each CD features five songs, including a duet never before available for purchase, from the top-five finalists, including winner Phillip Phillips, Jessica Sanchez, Joshua Ledet, Hollie Cavanagh and  Skylar Laine.

Additionally, an “American Idol Season 11 Duets and Trios Highlights” cd will also be available exclusively at Walmart and Walmart.com also for five dollars.

AMERICAN IDOL Season 11 DUETS AND TRIOS HIGHLIGHTS
1. (Your Live Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher (Jessica Sanchez, Hollie Cavanagh & Skylar Laine)
2. I Knew You Were Waiting For Me (Jessica Sanchez & Joshua Ledet)
3. Stop Dragging My Heart Around (Phillip Phillips & Elise Testone)
4. This Love (Phillip Phillips & Joshua Ledet)
5. Eternal Flame (Jessica Sanchez & Hollie Cavanagh)

PHILLIP PHILLIPS American Idol Season 11 Highlights
1. Home
2. Superstition
3. Volcano
4. We’ve Got Tonight
5. Stop Dragging My Heart Around (Duet with Elise Testone)

JESSICA SANCHEZ American Idol Season 11 Highlights
1. Change Nothing
2. I Will Always Love You
3. Sweet Dreams
4. Stuttering
5. I Knew You Were Waiting For Me (Duet with Joshua Ledet)

JOSHUA LEDET American Idol Season 11 Highlights
1. It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World
2. When A Man Loves A Woman
3. I Wish
4. If You Don’t Know Me By Now
5. You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling (Duet with Phillip Phillips)

HOLLIE CAVANAGH American Idol Season 11 Highlights
1. The Power of Love
2. All The Man That I Need
3. Bleeding Love
4. Rolling in the Deep
5. I’m So Excited (Duet with Deandre Brackensick)

SKYLAR LAINE American Idol Season 11 Highlights
1. Where Do Broken Hearts Go
2. Gunpowder & Lead
3. Wind Beneath My Wings
4. Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You
5. Islands in the Stream (Duet with Colton Dixon)

Available at all physical retailers
AMERICAN IDOL Season 11 TOP 10 HIGHLIGHTS
1. It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World (Joshua Ledet)
2. I Will Always Love You (Jessica Sanchez)
3. Volcano (Phillip Phillips)
4. Gunpowder & Lead (Skylar Laine)
5. Master Blaster (Deandre Brackensick)
6. The Power of Love (Hollie Cavanagh)
7. New York State of Mind (Erika Van Pelt)
8. Whole Lotta Love (Elise Testone)
9. Everything (Colton Dixon)
10. A Song For You (Heejun Han)

  • http://twitter.com/esqape Zach

    OMG! I’m glad they are releasing duets especially Hollie’s duet with Deandre! She let go so much during that performance I loved it so much (:

  • Guest

    Not one new cover to look forward to by anyone. Just a bunch of re treads. Disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/thebluemartini Nicole P.

     Well they’re highlights from the season.

  • Kitty Armistead

    If Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around is a studio recording, not just the live performance, I will flip. I loved that song!

  • Guest

    Perhaps, but last year the top four had added a new cover to make it worth buying for those who have already bought the songs during the season.

    Good for new fans to buy though

  • Anonymous

    All of last year’s previous unreleased tracks were still songs the contestants sang on the show except for James’ “Good Riddance” which we could assume was his choice for the Top 3 week had he survived. Last year they witheld one song for each of the top 3 on itunes, and those were the “new” tracks on the cds.

    Since this year, they recorded and released ALL the songs, I did wonder if there’d be anything new. Hopefully these duets are studio versions, but I have my doubts since some of them came earlier in the season. I hope they are!

  • Chris

    Let the counting begin. Sales speak louder than words.

  • Hazehel

    Let the counting begin. Sales speak louder than words.

    Indeed.  I read all over the internet from Phillipines fans how they can preorder the Jessica’s Walmart CD but cannot buy her iTunes songs.  If her sales in Walmart is anything more than the paltry 4,000 first week sales she got for her iTunes album or if she outsells Phillip, then we know that Phillipines fans did in fact skew the numbers in the US.  We can probably also get a rough idea of the number of Phillipines fans who cheated by voting for her.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Color me a tiny bit intrigued that they actually allowed duets on these highlight albums with folks not in the top 5.  DeAndre, Colton & Elise all snuck in there.  Did they ever record these duets or are they just the live versions? 

    I do find it hilarious that of all the duets they stuck You’ve Lost that Loving Feeling on Joshua’s.  I don’t think that one would ever really entice me to buy.

  • http://twitter.com/therocprince Cory ??

    I pre-ordered my Jessica one two weeks ago, and got confirmation today that it was shipped out. I hope the duets are studio versions.

  • http://twitter.com/therocprince Cory ??

    Oh and for the preorders it was a little caption under the CD saying that a limited quantity would be autographed. I don’t know how much a “limited quantity” is, but we’ll see. 

  • getaway1

    Phillip also also an EP on Amazon (the only one from the season). Same first 4 songs.  But Track #5 is Hard to Handle, vs the duet with Elise.

    It’s great that Phillip is #2 on Walmart, following the Bieber (of all people, lol).  But sales of these compilation EP’s from the show isn’t going to make or break any of their careers.

    Now, HOME going Gold is another story.  That ain’t too far away…….

  • tinawina

    Wouldn’t Jessica’s EP selling more than Phillip’s make a stronger case for the opposite… that she would have won if Phillipines votes had actually been counted?

    If you are arguing she shouldn’t have taken second place, then you should be looking for the signs the other contestants are more popular than her IMO, not for her to sell more than Phillip.

    But if she sells more than the other contestants, you’ll probably just say it is the work of the Phillipines anyway I suppose. So I’m not sure how she’s ever supposed to win this argument. LOL

  • Hazehel

    Wouldn’t Jessica’s EP selling more than Phillip’s make a stronger case for the opposite… that she would have won if Phillipines votes had actually been counted?

    Not at all.  Phillipines fans can’t text vote, and we know text-voting heavily skews the votes.  

    But if she sells more than the other contestants, you’ll probably just say it is the work of the Phillipines anyway I suppose.

    We probably actually have a good idea of how she is selling, since she was #2 in Walmart chart for a couple of weeks (Phillip was ~#5 for most of those time, although now he appears to have taken the #2 spot).   She is selling well above what might be expected, and when you look at the disparity with iTunes sales, there is really no other explanation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=195101108 Stefan Wind

    I’m shocked that Hollie’s EP doesn’t have “The Climb” on it. Oh well, I already have it from Itunes so I’m good.

  • Anonymous

    Really? So they could outsmart the voting process, but weren’t industrious to have a supplier to have some kind of gifting campaign? This poor kid lost the show and her placing second will still be tainted by the cheating Filipino meme? Why outsinging almost everyone else, and being judged by a different standard wasn’t enough?

  • Hazehel

    Really? So they could outsmart the voting process, but weren’t industrious to have a supplier to have some kind of gifting campaign?

    How has gifting campaign ever boosted sales to any significant degree?  
     Perhaps there were actually gifting campaigns but there are actually too few Jessica fans in the US who can or want to gift?  Why try to get others to gift when Phillipinos can buy themselves from Walmart?

    This poor kid lost the show and her placing second will still be tainted by the cheating Filipino meme? Why outsinging almost everyone else, and being judged by a different standard wasn’t enough?

    There is nothing to feel sorry about Jessica.  Jessica is no more than a Pia, good voice and technique, but not much else.   She is no more than a seventh-place finisher, and she got to where she is because her fans cheated. She deprived someone more deserving of a place in the finale.

    It needs to be set straight because her fans tried to sell a different meme that Phillip only won because he is a WGWG, that he is an undeserving winner, that he will be outsold by Jessica because she has more fans.  This is likely to be false, she has few fans in the States, sales figure from iTunes which doesn’t allow people outside of the States to buy tells the tale.

  • Anonymous

    Please answer the following: I hate
                                               A. Cheating
                                               B. Jessica
                                               C. Filipino’s who cheat
                                               D. All of the above

  • http://twitter.com/newbornstarr Wally.

     LOL. Keep tellin yourself that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UDTHNBCIRE4NHXA2NOTFJYKWXU Nathan

    I can’t believe this “cheating” issue still isn’t over. Your Phillip won, move on. By the way, you can’t pre- order without a US address and a credit card. So maybe she really has a huge US fan base? Maybe, it’s also possible that some of her Philippines fans have relatives and friends in the US buying Jessica’s CD for them as a gift. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Plus, you can’t compare itunes to CD sales because you can’t give itunes single and album as gifts. It makes more sense to buy 10 same CDs and give 9 as gifts than to buy 10 same itunes songs/ albums, right?

    Last season, only over a hundred thousand people watched AI in the Philippines. And most of Jessica’s fans in the Philippines didn’t even have the phone or internet to vote for her. I personally do not think that the AI voting process can be outsmarted but even if you want to believe that the fans from the Philippines voted for her and if majority of her fans were in the Philippines…. Jessica never would have made it through 1st voting rounds based on the number of people who watched and maybe voted for her in the Philippines. She has a huge regional (US) fan base, enough to vote for her week after week and are now buying her CD.

  • Anonymous

    Aside from the one duet, how are these CDs any different from the CDs they have already released for Phillip and Jessica?

  • justmefornow

    lol. Thanks for that laugh!!

    James’ choice for top 3 week was Dio’s Rainbow in The Dark, which he has been kicking ass performing live on tour this spring/summer.
    That lame ass “Good Riddance” and even lamer cover of that EP, lol, has Jimmy Iovine written all over it!
    Rant over. 
    Good luck to this crop from A11, it’s tough out there, getting tougher every minute.

  • Kirsten

    This is likely to be false, she has few fans in the States, sales figure
    from iTunes which doesn’t allow people outside of the States to buy
    tells the tale.

    Sure you can. All you need is a US credit card or a US iTunes gift card. I’ve never tried it myself, but I know people who have. I’m sure those wiley Filipinos could have figured that out in no time.

    Some people do it to pay cheaper US prices. Some do it because not all songs are available in all countries. Some do it because iTunes isn’t even available in their home country.

    She is selling well above what might be expected, and when you look at
    the disparity with iTunes sales, there is really no other explanation.

    Sure there is:

    A) Instead of being popular with Filipino’s, she may be popular with Canadian cross-boarder shoppers. Walmart Canada doesn’t sell the disks, but Canadians love themselves some cheap gas, cheese and 4th of July sales at the premium outlet stores. As the home country of Celine, it’s possible we love Jessica too. We wouldn’t bother buying from US iTunes because iTunes is actually cheaper in Canada (except when the dollar is above par and then we are too busy at the premium outlet stores to bother with iTunes).

    B) Jessica may be popular with Luddites. Luddites have advanced enough to have tube TV sets, but not to use iTunes or have phones that text (getting buttons for their land-line phones was wild enough for them). They may snap up her CDs at Walmart while never thinking to provide another 25 cents to the billions Apple already has sitting in the bank.

    C) Jessica’s fans may be like magpies. They like shiny things. They would far rather buy a CD than something from iTunes. That would certainly account for all those dangling, shiny earrings that Jessica wore.

    D) Jessica’s CDs may be popular with disgruntled P^2 fans. While deleting a song off of your iPod can be fun, it doesn’t have the same visceral feedback of shooting a CD full of buckshot. If anybody deserves to have their CD aerated, it is that cheating, terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Jessica.

    I’m sure there are lots of other interesting explanations. CD albums sales often differ from iTunes sales.

  • tucker davis

    I’m actually surprised that Phillip is selling as well as he is from Wal-Mart. Everyone I know who likes him already bought pretty much everything he did from I-Tunes. Why buy a CD with just the duet being different? Now I can see the Season 11 Highlights CD with everyone on it!

  • Anonymous

    There’s really nothing new.  But the main point is just to make Walmart happy.  These disks usually don’t sell very well, Scotty’s was a unique case last year, and it even resulted in 19 releasing his, Lauren and Haley’s recordings to other outlets like Napster and Rhapsody.

    Hazehel said: This is likely to be false, she has few fans in the States, sales figure
    from iTunes which doesn’t allow people outside of the States to buy
    tells the tale.

    Not really. We don’t know how many songs she sold during the season, and I think her lack of sales after can be attributed to two horrible weeks of song choices. People tend to buy because they feel all warm and fuzzy about the end of the show, but some of those feelings had to be tempered by Jessica’s last few performances. On top of that, those who would buy a song like Stuttering, aren’t going to pay money to buy the songs that she did on top three and the top two nights.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Holy cow. LOL

    What does it matter what fanwarring fans say on he internet? That happens every year. People say all kinds of things, particularly the more passionate fans of the top 2 finishers. Who cares?

    Jessica came in second. If that placement accurately reflects her US popularity, then we should see signs that Phillip is most popular, followed by Jessica, then the others.

    So far we see plenty of signs Phillip was most popular, but no signs that Colton, Elise, Sklyar, Hollie and/or Joshua are more popular than Jessica. Nobody sold stronger than her on ITunes… hell, no one did as well as even Haley Reinhart did last year. Now we’ll see how these Walmart things shake out and what the crowd reaction is like on tour, I guess. But even crowd reaction is not reflective of anything really TBH.

    Honestly it doesn’t look like anyone was wildly popular but Phillip so far. And we’ve had winners be outsold before, so I think it is dubious to even look at sales as some kind of “proof” of voting trends anyway. I really think you are going on a wild goose chase here. But knock yourself out I guess.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    They almost played the entire P2 “Home” during a story about Coach Karolyi during the gymnstics trials just now…so jealous:))

    Know this thread is about the ep’s just had to share…

  • Hazehel

    Nobody sold stronger than her on ITunes…

    Joshua’s song stayed longer on iTunes than her with a song that’s already out two weeks longer.  I can be pretty sure that he sold more. 

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Jesssica had 3 (4?) songs chart, Joshua had one. ONE. Joshua’s *one* charting song vs Jessica’s handful (and her album which was top 10 I think  at one point) is proof positive that the multitudes of cheating Fillipinos rode her to second place over Joshua? That makes sense to you? I don’t get that at all.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not married to the idea that Jessica didnt have illegal votes but I just find the way you are going about trying to “prove” it highly illogical, to the point it just is kind of seems a little witch hunt-ish to me.

  • Hazehel

    Please answer the following: I hate

                                               A. Cheating
                                               B. Jessica
                                               C. Filipino’s who cheat
                                               D. All of the above

    Not sure what you are really interested in, but I if those are the choices, I just don’t like cheating.  In this case I don’t really care for either Jessica or Phillip (but I don’t hate them) since I have no favorite this season.  I got tired of the whole talk of WGWG, the attempts to denigrate the winner who happens to be WGWG (and in this case, people who knew they cheated but then have the chutzpah to claim the winner is undeserving after failing to cheat him of his win), and the attempt to push a girl to win (same thing last year).

    But those aren’t really important to me, I’m just intrigued by the what’s happening this year, something quite unusual happened, and it should be brought out into the open.  I think there is a case to be answered about widespread cheating this year, there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest this is true.

  • Hazehel

    Jesssica had 3 (4?) songs chart, Joshua had one. ONE. Joshua’s *one* charting song vs Jessica’s handful 

    You do realized that Jessica was in the finale, and Joshua wasn’t?  The two songs that charted higher  than Joshua were new songs.   But even then, Jessica’s new songs didn’t chart much higher than Joshua’s, then fell quite quickly  - they dropped out of Top 400 while Joshua’s 3 week old song was still there (it stay there just for a short while, but we couldn’t tracked the songs afterwards because we didn’t have the Top 1000 songs then).  

  • Hazehel

    Sure there is:

    Yes, and I can think of a thousand more like this, but really, there are reasonable explanations, and there are unreasonable ones.  You’ll have to, for example, answer why Jessica would be such a special case, that those explanations would only apply to her and not Phillip.

    We’ll see if your explanation is reasonable when we get the sales figures.   I think the Walmart chart is for online sales only, so it is hard to tell what the actual sales figure might be, but we’ll see soon enough I suppose.

  • Anonymous

    Looking forward to Phillip’s as I would much rather have an actual CD than just mp3s. 

    Also, my local radio station FINALLY started playing “Home” today. I was beyond thrilled! More spins for Phil! 

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    So? The song Joshua charted was performed the week before in an emotional sing-out. His one song stays up on Itunes higher than a couple of hers for what… a day or maybe 2 towards the end of the week… and that means he’s more popular?

    Here’s the thing. Last year, Haley and James didn’t sell songs from the night before. Some of their biggest songs from the season appeared on Itunes, some of them weeks old. This year, no one really did that but Phillip. So if Josh was so much more popular that Jessica, why wasn’t he selling more than one song, and why was that one song performed the week before? He didn’t even sell the new songs from top 3 week. Just that song that was actually from top 4 week. Wouldn’t his fanbase that was so much bigger than Jessica’s buy everything? So once again, that one song trumps all else?

    I’m not arguing the audience was rabidly passionate about Jessica. I’m arguing that there is no evidence that the audience was rabidly passionate about anyone except maybe Phillip. You are making a lot out of what was a best was a difference of a few hundred sales between one song from him and a 3-4 from her, plus her album.

  • Anonymous

    I get it you are trying to wake up the American people to the tampering by the cheating Filipino’s  and their girl Jessica who dared to taint the voting process on a TV show of such stature as American Idol. Well goodluck with your quest.

  • http://twitter.com/BuranaBurana Carmina Burana

    If Jessica is selling albuns, it does not matter to Interscope whether who’s buying is an American, from Phillipines, Pakistan or even an ET. Or if they are buying for themselves or mailing to somebody overseas.  Money has no color for the label. Record sold is money on the pocket. Period.

    That said, Jessica is the only one that gained a significant number Twitter fans since the show ended.  Don’t know why, but that might go along with the fact that she’s selling more now that soon after the finale. Or maybe her fans were too pissed to rush to iTunes and buy her album? Who knows, but what matters anyways.

    What I DO like about the possibility of Filipinos buying her music is that if they are buying covers, they will certainly buy her new album, no matter how good it is…  That gives her some insurance to get a second album deal, just in case Iovine fills her record with a bunch of Change Nothing’s in the 2 months they are taking to make her album. 

    Just occurred to me that PP should be the Filipino contestant.  he would be Phillip Phillips from Phillipines.  P3!!! LOL Sorry, just to light up the air…

  • Anonymous

    Its starting to get insulting to both Jessica and her fans to hear that Jessica ‘won’ 2nd place just because her fans cheated. The girl can sing and is talented. Maybe the American voting public just liked, recognised and respect her talent on the show. As we know voting and buying may not correlate. 

    BTW, She’s my fav on S11 but I didn’t vote. I don’t vote but I buy. 

  • tucker davis

    If Jessica had won, it would have been the first season that every single contestant was voted off…lol..jus’ saying.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see any evidence that supports a claim of cheating.  So far, everything has been an assumptions backed up by other assumptions.

  • Hazehel

    So? The song Joshua charted was performed the week before in an emotional sing-out. His one song stays up on Itunes higher than a couple of hers for what… a day or maybe 2 towards the end of the week… and that means he’s more popular?

    Given the song was in its 3rd week, and Jessica’s weak chart performance even when she was in the finale, then yes.  Jessica was unpopular, and it is therefore likely that someone else whose songs still charted 3 weeks later was more popular.
      
    I don’t remember a Top 2 finalist ever selling that poorly, not Lauren, not Crystal, certainly not Adam or Archie, or even Blake (his songs sold even when digital songs weren’t selling as well as they do now).  You also have a false perspective with regard to Season 10 because there were the Top 1000 songs, but this year we only see the Top 400.

  • Anonymous

    If Filipino votes counted, there would have been no way Phillip would have won. That should be proof enough they didn’t count. 

  • Hazehel

    I don’t see any evidence that supports a claim of cheating.  So far, everything has been an assumptions backed up by other assumptions.

    Assumptions backed up by real evidence of  Filipinos who themselves said they voted via Skype.   Circumstantial evidence include DialIdol showing strange pattern (massive increase in vote for Jessica),  but no real evidence of her popularity in the US (her poor iTunes sales does in fact suggest she is massively unpopular), she appears only to sell when when Filipinos themselves say they can pre-order her album in the US.  No contestant who got the judges save ever survived as long as she did, so she is certainly unusual in that respect.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Jessica was unpopular, and it is therefore likely that someone else whose songs still charted 3 weeks later are more popular.

    Actually, I would say that’s a huge leap. The “evidence”, such as it is, is that Jessica was no where near as popular as previous second place finishers. But the evidence that someone else this year was MORE popular that her is not there IMO. There was nothing to stop this mythical fanbase from strongly buying Josh’s many songs. Or anyone else’s for that matter. But that did not happen. Where was No More Drama? That was his moment the previous week right?

    Keep in mind I like Joshua more than I like Jessica. But the facts are the facts. Most seasons only had one big fall seller, this year it looks like Phil won the sweepstakes and that is that. Good for him, I really like “Home” and he seems like a good guy. But none of the rest of them are looking like they have huge buying fanbases to draw from. And no one is looking like they have more domestic fans that Jessica.

    But we can agree to disagree. After this I’m letting you do your thing. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017520006 Adam Alamillo

    I’m underwhelmed by the songs chosen for each of them hahaha.

  • Kirsten

    5. You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling (Duet with Phillip Phillips)

    Are they trying to get people to not buy the CD?

  • Kirsten

     

    Yes, and I can think of a thousand more like this, but really, there are
    reasonable explanations, and there are unreasonable ones.

    Actually, the first one is pretty reasonable. Walmart Canada usually does not carry the CDs and Canadians do like cheap gas (and will stop at Walmart while they are down there).

    Tastes do differ per country, so it is not inconceivable that Canadians could tip the balance. I’d buy that before I’d buy Filipinos tipping the balance from the Philipines. Especially cheating cheaters that cheat (those guys would just steal the CD illegally).

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe anyone would use dial-idol to analyze voting patterns this past season when a ouija board would work as well. To say that there is some info that leads to the conclusion that only Filipino voters illegally voted en masse for Jessica based on ethereal evidence with so much vehemency is definitely witch-hunt like. And then if she actually does better than expected, better than lower placing finishers that will support your theory, and if she doesn’t that too could be spun to support it. Almost sounds like politics.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I still say the Las Vegas oddsmakers selected Jessica to win prior to the live shows.  I doubt that would have considered any illegal votes coming through. “Oh, Jessica will win because she’ll have people illegally voting for her.”  Nah.  This young lady is talented and deserved the TOP 2 spot.

  • Sheldon Cooper

    Simple Logic: This isn’t the first time that a contestant with Filipino background has landed a spot in the Top 12. If there was voting glitch, S10′s Thia Megia would have been placed way higher than 11th place. Think about it.

  • http://twitter.com/AlesHutapea Alessandro Hutapea

    kinda confused right now with Hollie’s EP…..I think they should’ve put Faithfully or at least The Climb/Perfect instead of RITD. But i know her EP will sell more because OF RITD. I love Hollie. But im so excited makes me excited!

  • Carriefan1

    I’m glad they are doing these Wal-Mart CDs. Last year’s gave a good indication of the order of popularity the Idols would sell with their own albums.

    Wal-Mart CD’s last year: Scotty, Lauren, James and finally Haley

    When each released their own albums, it reflected this. Scotty sold the most, followed by Lauren, then James, and then Haley.

    So it seems to be that, based on sales, James should have come in third while Haley should have come in fourth last year on Idol.

    Anyway, I can’t wait to see how sales for this season stack up. I am really rooting for Jessica, Hollie and Skylar the most. I hope all five do great though!

  • http://twitter.com/aizjanika aizjanika

     

    Since this year, they recorded and released ALL the songs, I did wonder if there’d be anything new.

    Did they release Somebody That I Used to Know by Elise & Phillip?  I don’t recall seeing it on iTunes. If it’s available, I’d still buy it. I loved their version.

  • Anonymous

    I read all over the internet from Phillipines fans how they can preorder the Jessica’s Walmart CD but cannot buy her iTunes songs.  If her sales in Walmart is anything more than the paltry 4,000 first week sales she got for her iTunes album or if she outsells Phillip, then we know that Phillipines fans did in fact skew the numbers in the US.  We can probably also get a rough idea of the number of Phillipines fans who cheated by voting for her.

    I sincerely doubt that fans in the Philippines would be purchasing enough copies of Jessica’s Walmart album to make much difference at all in overall sales here. Its hard to sell copies of an album physically IN the Philippines much less have someone go to the trouble of getting it ordered from Walmart in the US and shipped internationally. Music sales there are small; illegal downloading is very big.
    What many Filipinos do spend money on is concerts. That’s why big acts do shows in the Philippines. The money there is in touring not album sales.

    As far as international voting on AI goes, I think that has about as much effect as fan buying campaigns have on overall album sales. Which is to say, pretty negligible.

  • Anonymous

    ;Agree with justformenow’s comment re: James’ performance on tour of Dio’s Rainbow in the
    Dark…..Absolutely spectacular….Live! Everything pales in comparison!….And seeing James 
    and his band thisclose, oh, my!….Always envied the California audiences who had the rare
    opportunity to bask in the glow of seeing and hearing live performances of so many talented
    performers….if only the east coast, particularly N.Y. AI fans could experience the same….
    And what’s this I read, only 1 song by Colton on the cd of those about to go on tour??  I
    understand, but I don’t have to  agree!

  • Anonymous

    Lol at those people saying that Jessica is not popular here in the US.. WTH. C’mon! move on.

    Anyways, I have a theory about Jessica having low sale in her Album on itunes,

    First, Her fans are not using itunes like my family, We don’t like iphones because We love android phones and a lot of people don’t use it as well especially here in our place.

    Second, Her fans who voted for her are very young or to old to use Itunes.

    Third, People were disappointed with the result and got lazy to buy on itunes.
     
    But let see on her EP and her upcoming Album. :)

  • Anonymous

    Jessica is now in 2nd place overall with todays update with Phillip 3rd and Joshua has dropped to 22nd place.  the other girls well below.

    #2 Jessica
    #3 Phillip
    #22 Joshua
    #45 Hollie
    #64 Skylar

    Twitter followers

    Jessica 698,060 Followers
    Phillip 481,068 Followers
    Colton 321,348 Followers
    Skylar 152,171 Followers
    Heejun 145,445 Followers
    Joshua 133,547 Followers
    Hollie 121,540 Followers
    Elise 88,920 Followers
    DeAndre 73,034 Followers
    Erika 50,227 Followers
    Shannon 38,099 Followers
    Jeremy 27,235 Followers

  • Anonymous

    What irritates me are people who rates Phillips album as 1 star, 2 stars.  Cmon!  Then more no than yes whether the review was helpful. For those who rated the album 3 stars or less, there were no explanation nor identification.  What kind of people do that? 

  • Hazehel

    Actually, the first one is pretty reasonable.

    I have already given one reason why it is unreasonable – you haven’t really given a valid reason why it should applied only to Jessica and not to Phillip.  Everything do suggest that Canadians have similar taste to Americans, the difference is not massive (hell, even specifically American genres like country music chart in Canada when they seldom do elsewhere).

    We already have an indication that there isn’t a great deal of difference when it comes to Jessica and Phillip – Phillip’s album and songs charted in both the US and Canada, but none of Jessica’s did in Canada, so you can’t actually claim there is a massive love for Jessica in Canada.   We’ll see how big the difference between iTunes and Walmart is when we see the actual sales figures (the Walmart chart could be misleading), and if there is a massive difference those and iTunes, I would say your explanation is entirely unreasonable.

  • Chris

    Twitter followers only show people are willing to click “follow.”  Not spend $$. I see lots of tweets suggesting, “If every follower bought 1 CD for $5, or bought 1 song” she’d have a gold album, but we know that doesn’t happen.

    What it shows is Jessica is interesting, and people like her, want know what she is doing.  We’ll have to see if those followers buy, or perhaps they will watch her on Glee, or find other ways to support her career.

  • Chris

    Your post brings up an interesting point, that could easily explain the lack of sales so far for Jessica.  People wanted her to win because she’s a girl, she’s different, and yes she can sing.  5 years in a row of a girl being shut out, all of the posts that its time for a female to win, so legal votes went to Jessica.

    Alas, those votes usually don’t turn into sales, because its more politics than anything.  

    JMO.  I think that’s much more plausible a reason for the lack of sales than illegal votes.  More that people wanted a girl to win (no more WGWG), but they aren’t fans of the music released so far enough to buy.  I would put myself in that category. I didn’t like her finale song, I have Whitney Houston’s greatest hits CD, so no need to buy Jessica’s.  Hence, none of my money has gone to Jess yet.

  • Karen C

    Anyways, I have a theory about Jessica having low sale in her Album on itunes,
    First, Her fans are not using itunes like my family, We don’t like iphones because We love android phones and a lot of people don’t use it as well especially here in our place.
    Second, Her fans who voted for her are very young or to old to use Itunes.
    Third, People were disappointed with the result and got lazy to buy on itunes.

    Other than the first reason, that fans do not buy from Itunes but buy from other places, like Walmart or Amazon, the other two reasons still lead to not selling as many singles or albums, and that is the ultimate goal.  It won’t matter if she has fans if they don’t buy her music, especially her post idol music. 

  • Karen C

    .. I think that’s much more plausible a reason for the lack of sales than illegal votes. More that people wanted a girl to win (no more WGWG), but they aren’t fans of the music released so far enough to buy. I would put myself in that category

     I think there are some that maybe vote for who they like better, or vote against the one they don’t like,  especially when it gets to the top 2, but aren’t necessarily fans of the person that they voted for.  And other than being able to vote multiple times, this is why there is such a disparity between number of votes and post idol sales, because some voters weren’t fans to begin with.  Though I do think the sales of the idol songs do refect popularity somewhat.

    I didn’t like her finale song, I have Whitney Houston’s greatest hits CD, so no need to buy Jessica’s. Hence, none of my money has gone to Jess yet.

    I think that the reason that when someone really changes the arrangement of a song, it sells more, because it is different than the original.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you just burn your mp3s?

  • Chris

    “I think that the reason that when someone really changes the arrangement of a song, it sells more, because it is different than the original.”

    Agree 100%.  Some of my favorite performances were putting a fresh spin on an old song.  David’s “Billie Jean” or Adam’s “Tears of a Clown.”

    Or, if the song was not popular, but an Idol’s performance was really good, then that’s worth buying because its not new, but new to the buyer.  e.g. LMMD.  People said Kristy Lee Cook had recorded it, but I never heard it until the finale with Lauren.  It seems to fit a 16 year old.

    Sales of covers are tricky so it needs to bring something new or why buy?

    I am sure there is a song out there for Jessica. Just have to find it.  A lot of people didn’t know Stuttering, so it had potential to be a break out performance.

  • Kirsten

    I have already given one reason why it is unreasonable – you haven’t
    really given a valid reason why it should applied only to Jessica and
    not to Phillip.

    I’m not saying that the Canadians will buy Jessica more than Phillip. I’m just saying they will likely buy more CDs from Walmart USA than Filipinos, so their influence will be felt more.

      Everything do suggest that Canadians have similar taste
    to Americans, the difference is not massive (hell, even specifically
    American genres like country music chart in Canada when they seldom do
    elsewhere).

    Everything suggests that the Canadian market differs not only from the US, but also across the country. While certainly if an act sells well in the US, it will likely also find buyers in Canada there are regional differences. The top album across Canada was Bieber’s. His album is so big it swamped regional differences (plus, he is Canadian).

    But if we look deeper into the top 5:
    Vancouver: 2 (C2/US28) Neil & Crazy Horse Young, 3 (C92/US-) Caspian, 4 (C13/US3) Fiona Apple, 5 (C8/US29) Ed Sheeran

    Edmonton: 2 (C5/US2) Kenny Chesney, 3 (C4/US4) Smashing Pumpkins, 4 (C10/US5) Rock of Ages, 5 (C9/US49) Metric

    Ottawa: 2 (C2/US28) Neil & Crazy Horse Young, 3 (C6/US7) Adele, 4 (C9/US49) Metric, 5 (C3/US8) One Direction

    Quebec City: 2 (C19/US-) Star Acadamie 2012, 3 (C11/US-) Loco Locass, 4 (C15/US-) Mixmania 3, 4 (C12/US-) Dan Desnoyers

    So, why does that matter? Well, who is more likely to visit a US Walmart? While Vancouver and the Windsor corridor wash up against the US border, other parts of the country do not. The nearest Walmart to Vancouver is in Blaine which is right on the border meaning that some people in Vancouver can get there in mere minutes. Meanwhile, those in Edmonton have an 11 hour drive to Missoula to pick up those country CDs at their local US Walmart.

    So, IF Vancouverites like Jessica more than Phil (and if Jessica’s fan base is limited to Filipinos (which I do not believe) there is a large population of Filipinos in Vancouver), then that could help skew the balance.

    There are SO many variables that go into music buying, that if Jessica does sell relatively more CDs than she did of iTunes, it does not mean those ‘cheating’ Filipinos are at it again.  We know just by looking at the digital charts that acts don’t always sell the same relative amount on iTunes as they do of physical CDs. There are even genres that tend to do better in one than the other. Who knows. Maybe Jessica fans are lovers of her pure tone and were holding out for the higher fidelity of CDs. P^2 fans may think that MP3s are good enough for his gravelly voice.

    I fully expect Phillip to dominate the CD sales just as he has the iTunes market, but I do think that Jessica has domestic fans. If ‘cheating’ Filipinos were so powerful in the illegal voting booth, Thia wouldn’t have finished so far back last year.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMyT1me Lori

    Warning… snerkalert
     
    Ah those sneaky Filipinos are at it again. They’ve illegally downloaded Jessica’s covers, have produced bootleg CDs, and are selling them through Amazon, thus the title “Season 11 American Idol Hlts [Import]” (“hlts” spelling in context). However, they are not getting a lot of bites, as it is at #27,674.
     
    http://www.amazon.com/Season-11-American-Idol-Hlts/dp/B0089KQYVM/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1341059500&sr=1-7&keywords=jessica+sanchez
     
    Seriously, I went to Amazon to see how P2′s EP is doing there. I was thinking that possibly some of his audience is choosing Amazon rather than Walmart (I always do), thus having an effect on his sales at #3 on Walmart. Amazon has the same first 4 songs but the fifth is P2′s Hard To Handle, rather than the duet with Elise. It is currently at #398. When I looked for Jessica’s EP, I only found that “import” and nothing else, so nothing to compare for her. And I have NO idea how Amazon stacks up against Walmart in actual numbers of units moved. Just thought I’d add this information to the discussion.

  • Hazehel

    Everything suggests that the Canadian market differs not only from the US, but also across the country. 

    You’d probably find that there are differences between different regions of US, perhaps even between states, or even cities, so what exactly is the point here? I’m saying that overall, there isn’t a great deal of difference. 

    So, IF Vancouverites like Jessica more than Phil (and if Jessica’s fan base is limited to Filipinos (which I do not believe) there is a large population of Filipinos in Vancouver), then that could help skew the balance.

    So you are in fact arguing that a subpopulation in a region of Canada (whose preference doesn’t even make a noticeable impact in Canadian iTunes) would heavily affect sales in a huge country like the US?  That would drop it into the completely unreasonable territory.

  • Kirsten

     

    You’d probably find that there are differences between different regions
    of US, perhaps even between states, or even cities, so what exactly is
    the point here?

    I’m quite sure there is a difference between the regions in the US. I’m just pointing out that if you want to look at what Canadians will buy in US stores you can’t look at what they buy as a country. You have to look at what people in regions where you can cross-boarder shop would buy.

    So you are in fact arguing that a subpopulation in a region of Canada
    (whose preference doesn’t even make a noticeable impact in Canadian
    iTunes) would heavily affect sales in a huge country like the US?

    Not at all. I’m simply arguing that Canadians will buy more CDs in US stores than people living in the Philippines will. Both will be dwarfed by US buyers.

    That would drop it into the completely unreasonable territory.

    Oh? I thought we were already deep into unreasonable territory.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason that could have contributed to Jessica’s poor Itunes sales is that at some point fans were commenting that they were unable to purchase her compilation album due to a technical problem.  So perhaps a number of sales were lost because fans just gave up due to the Itunes glitch.

  • Chris

    There were 132 million votes in the finale for S11, 122 million for S10. It’s all smoke and mirrors. Big hype, low conversion rate to sales.

  • Hazehel

    Not at all. I’m simply arguing that Canadians will buy more CDs in US stores than people living in the Philippines will. Both will be dwarfed by US buyers.

    Which is completely irrelevant to the discussion of why there is a huge disparity between iTunes sales and Walmart (Jessica, by the way, has crept up to #2 again).  So why are you even offering that as an explanation?  Why are you ignoring that fact that many Filipinos are saying that they do pre-order Jessica’s EP in Walmart when I don’t see many Canadians saying the same?

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I can’t believe anyone would use dial-idol to analyze voting patterns this past season when a ouija board would work as well.

    Especially as 2/3 of Filipinos who use the internet at all get their internet access at public internet cafes (Nielsen & Yahoo did a study, check slide 10), which I really doubt are using dial-up modems compatible with Dial Idol, much less allowing patrons to tie up a computer for a two-hour voting window. 

    Since the voting window would be during the Filipino work/school day, calling manually via Skype would be limited to people who are affluent enough to have home internet access (maybe 15% of the population, tops, and that’s probably a gross overestimate) but don’t have to be somewhere else, earning a living to support that lifestyle.

  • Kirsten

    Which is completely irrelevant to the discussion of why there is a huge
    disparity between iTunes sales and Walmart (Jessica, by the way, has
    crept up to #2 again)

    Since I’ve already pointed out that people in the Philippines can purchase from US iTunes if they want to (all they have to do is order a US iTunes gift card in whatever manner they are using to buy CDs from Walmart) I do not see how Filiponos are at all relevant to the discussion about Walmart vs iTunes sales.

    So why are you even offering that as an explanation? 

    It could be any number of things. Maybe her fans prefer the higher fidelity of CDs. Maybe her fans for whatever quirk are big Walmart.com shoppers (who knows…military families are supporting one of their own and buy a lot from Walmart.com because bases are in the middle of nowhere or not in the US? IDK). Maybe this is where her legions of twitter fans choose to buy. Maybe people who prefer her genre of music like CDs more than MP3s.

    Why are you ignoring that fact that many Filipinos are saying that they
    do pre-order Jessica’s EP in Walmart when I don’t see many Canadians
    saying the same?

    Because I can walk across the border and into a store to buy a CD and avoid paying a HUGE shipping charge while those in the Philippines do not have that option.

    Where I live, people think nothing of going down to the US to buy cheese, walk the dog or fill up the car with gas. I imagine it is quite more involved to come to the US from the Philippines just to walk your dog. Just a guess.

    So, yes, if somebody from the Philippines desperately wants her CD, the most reasonable option is to buy it online. And if a Canadian wants to buy it online, they wouldn’t necessarily even have to discuss it because they do it all the time too (and often enough, just pop down and pick up the mail to avoid paying shipping charges to Canada. You don’t even need a US postal box to do it) – so no reason to publicly discuss it. Just do it. The average Filipino probably does not order a lot of stuff from the US, so that’s why they may be discussing it online.

    Are some Filipinos buying her CD online? Most likely (I remember Filipino Taylor and Elliott fans doing that). Will it be anything other than a drop in the bucket? Probably not. Does it explain why she may move relatively more CDs than iTunes downloads? I doubt it very much.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    So, yes, if somebody from the Philippines desperately wants her CD, the most reasonable option is to buy it online.

    That’s if Filipino fans make a huge exception from their normal music-acquisition habits and actually buy Sanchez’s CD. Virtually all music in the Philippines is pirated (one of many articles is here), to the point that one major label GAVE UP on signing and promoting regional artists because fans wouldn’t pay for the music (article here).

    Philippines sales of Sanchez’s CD should be quite small, as most fans who want it will wait until somebody who’s bought it has ripped the tracks and uploaded them to a file-sharing site.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TBRH25QFXTK5JOPE4HX7FBI5PE J

    People kept getting the error “the album is being modified” for Jessica’s Itunes album when they tried to buy it, from what I hear.

  • Kirsten

     

    That’s if Filipino fans make a huge exception from their normal music-acquisition habits and actually buy Sanchez’s CD.

    Exactly. I just can’t imagine that it will be more than a handful of CDs.

  • getaway1

    Whether it’s Phillip, Jessica, Josh, Hollie or Skylar, if anyone is banking on the Walmart sales of Idol cover songs from the show being a career game changer, they are in trouble.

  • Hazehel

    maybe 15% of the population, tops

    Do you know the population of the Philippines?  That’s half of the number of people in Canada.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Do you know the population of the Philippines?  That’s half of the number of people in Canada.

    As it happens, Wikipedia provides that information. I really doubt that huge numbers Filipinos can afford home internet (since it’s still only for the affluent there) yet don’t need to be at work to support that level of affluence. This time zone table may clarify why Idol voting is at an awkward time for Filipino fans.

  • Hazehel

    Since I’ve already pointed out that people in the Philippines can purchase from US iTunes if they want to (all they have to do is order a US iTunes gift card in whatever manner they are using to buy CDs from Walmart)  I do not see how Filiponos are at all relevant to the discussion about Walmart vs iTunes sales.

    Perhaps you missed my first post when I said that many Filipinos complained about not being able to buy from iTunes but then said that they can pre-order from Walmart, and they did just that.  I think I did said it again, but perhaps you missed that as well.  

      It could be any number of things. 
     

    But so far I haven’t read anything that resembles a reasonable explanation that can explain the huge disparity between iTunes and Walmart.  

    Because I can walk across the border and into a store to buy a CD and avoid paying a HUGE shipping charge while those in the Philippines do not have that option.

    Do Canadians have to go to Walmart personally when they pre-order a CD?  If not, how is that relevant to the discussion about online pre-order?  The fact is that it Filipinos did talk about it, and given the odd pattern we have seen so far, it is the only reasonable explanation (and you failed to offer any explanation that’s remotely reasonable).

  • Hazehel

    I really doubt that huge numbers Filipinos can afford home internet (since it’s still only for the affluent there) yet don’t need to be at work to support that level of affluence. This time zone table may clarify why Idol voting is at an awkward time for Filipino fans.

     Only 0.1% of the population of the Philippines need to vote to have a huge effect on the voting numbers, especially before the finale. She would be guaranteed a win if just 0.5% of Filipinos voted for her if you assume every voter can cast 200 votes.

  • Kirsten

    Do you know the population of the Philippines?  That’s half of the number of people in Canada.

    The number of Filipino Jessica CDs orderers from US Walmart.com is the subset of people who:
    A) Have internet access
    B) Can afford that luxury and don’t have to work during the day
    C) Care enough about Jessica (but not Thia) to spend hours voting via skype and don’t mind cheating.
    D) Are too lazy to bother buying the songs from iTunes US via a US gift card (easily purchased from Walmart.com).
    E) Willing to pay a lot of money to ship the CD from the US despite the more common practice of ripping CDs to the point that one major label won’t even sign local artists.

    Meanwhile, Canadian buyers are some of the people who watch the highest rated television show in their country during their evening leisure time and pop down to the US to buy cheap gas. I am quite certain that this group is much larger than the subset of Filipinos described above.

    Nevertheless, both groups will be completely dwarfed by US buyers so their numbers are insignificant.

  • Kirsten

    She would be guaranteed a win if just 0.5% of Filipinos voted for her if you assume every voter can cast 200 votes.

    And yet, she did not win.

    And I suspect, there may have been a few people from the US who voted for her.

    Thia did not win either.

  • Anonymous

    JMO.  I think that’s much more plausible a reason for the lack of sales than illegal votes.  More that people wanted a girl to win (no more WGWG), but they aren’t fans of the music released so far enough to buy.  I would put myself in that category. I didn’t like her finale song, I have Whitney Houston’s greatest hits CD, so no need to buy Jessica’s.  Hence, none of my money has gone to Jess yet.

    I agree.  I like Jessica and I liked her voice.  But in voting for her, I was going more on what I’d heard about her and less on the song choices she made.  I’m looking forward to what she comes up with when she’s singing stuff she actually wants to sing.

  • Hazehel

    Meanwhile, Canadian buyers are some of the people who watch the highest rated television show in their country during their evening leisure time and pop down to the US to buy cheap gas. I am quite certain that this group is much larger than the subset of Filipinos described above.

    And completely irrelevant when there isn’t any evidence that they would choose to buy a Jessica EP from Walmart (they couldn’t be bothered to buy from Canadian iTunes so it is reasonable to assume that few Canadians would buy it from Walmart either).  There are however evidence that Filipinos would buy from Walmart.

  • Karen C

    Maybe the reason Jessica’s cd is selling now is because she has made quite a few public apperances since the show ended, maybe she gained some fans from those apperances, or else, they decided to buy her cd because of that, even if they watched her on the show, but didn’t buy her singles on Itunes.   Since the Walmart one is the one that it is now being released, that is why it is selling more than the Itunes, because it was more recently released.   Jessica did get the round of promo the winner usually gets, so maybe that is what helped her get higher Walmart sales.

  • Kirsten

    Perhaps you missed my first post when I said that many Filipinos
    complained about not being able to buy from iTunes but then said that
    they can pre-order from Walmart, and they did just that.

    But, they still could have. If they are as wiley as claimed (finding ways to vote internationally and buy from Walmart.com to inflate her numbers), then they could have easily figured out how to buy from US iTunes. Perhaps you have found a small nest of the dimmer ones?

    I cannot evaluate this ‘many’. Are we talking millions of Filipinos here? That 0.5% is 465K. That should leave a significant trail. Or is ‘many’ like 12 people?

    Do Canadians have to go to Walmart personally when they pre-order a CD?
     If not, how is that relevant to the discussion about online pre-order?

    No, but we cross-border shop all the time via the internet or personally. We don’t need to discuss it, so that may be why you see little chatter.

    The fact is that it Filipinos did talk about it, and given the odd
    pattern we have seen so far, it is the only reasonable explanation (and
    you failed to offer any explanation that’s remotely reasonable).

    I’ve offered a bunch of possible reasons (fidelity of CDs, differences in genres, US military family purchases, differences in Walmart customer preferences) and they have all been dismissed.

    I simply find your explanation as more unreasonable than my own.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Maybe the reason Jessica’s cd is selling now is because she has made quite a few public apperances since the show ended

    PR certainly should help with sales. There’s also the detail that Walmart online sales are a tiny, tiny portion of their total music sales, so the Walmart “chart” doesn’t tell us much about how the CD will actually sell through Walmart. 

    Albums routinely appear in the top 10 on that chart without making the BB 200, and in an order that defies logic. Cook’s TQN (the acoustic cuts from TLM) is an obvious example — spent most of the week at #1 on that chart, sold fewer than the BB 200 cut-off even with in-store sales included. I’ve also seen years-old country albums “charting” ahead of big new pop albums. Using that chart to extrapolate substantial sales for Sanchez — or even that she’ll actually have more sales than P2 when in-store purchases are included — is a big leap that isn’t supported by the available evidence.

    ETA: If every online purchaser of Sanchez’s Walmart CD is from the Philippines, that’d be maybe 2000 Filipinos (based on known past sales and chart positions). (This estimate could be high by an order of magnitude, though.) And that’s assuming that people from a culture where virtually all music is pirated are buying, while people from cultures that still buy music aren’t.

  • Hazehel

    And yet, she did not win.

    The point wasn’t that there were 0.5% voting for her, just that the number game played by Eilonwy about how many people can do it is irrelevant.

  • Karen C

    I wasn’t saying that Jessica’s cd would sell more than P2 in total, just that maybe her sales of the Walmart cd are higher than P2 because  of the additional promotion she received. 

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Obviously I can only speak from the standpoint of myself, one thirty-something American, who considers myself a fan of Jessica.  Not an obsessed fan, but a fan.  I have never purchased a single one of her covers.  Let’s just say in her case while I think she is phenomenal, I wasn’t so enamored of her song choices on the show that I felt the need to buy the studio tracks.  I’m only interested in studio tracks where I feel the singers bring something new to the table and/or I had most of her tracks that I liked from the original artists.  I will however likely buy her new music when there is new music to buy, especially if she goes in the R&B/urban direction that she wants to go in. 

    I’m guessing I’m not the only Jessica fan who just wasn’t interested enough to buy her covers, but is still interested in her and whatever possible new music she records.

    Oh, and I would have voted for her after DeAndre was off the show, but I’m too lazy to sit on the phone for two hours redialing/texting.

  • http://twitter.com/RyanBadiola Paul Ryan Badiola MD

    Jessica’s CD will be released locally in the Philippines soon under MCA Universal. NO NEED TO PRE-ORDER FROM WALMART. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?id=318414213031&l=4474a13a05&pid=13873113

  • Hazehel

    But, they still could have. If they are as wiley as claimed (finding ways to vote internationally and buy from Walmart.com to inflate her numbers), then they could have easily figured out how to buy from US iTunes. 

    Which again is irrelevant.  It’s about them and what they said and did, not about what you think they can do.  You can be a good Samaritan and tell them how they can do things better or save their money, but it doesn’t change the fact that they did pre-order from Walmart and couldn’t buy from iTunes.   

     I’ve offered a bunch of possible reasons (fidelity of CDs, differences in genres, US military family purchases, differences in Walmart customer preferences) and they have all been dismissed.

    And with good reasons. You need to demonstrate that these explanation would necessarily favour Jessica over Phillip and to such a significant degree.  So far iTunes sales in US and Canada suggest no such thing, in fact quite the opposite.

  • Guest

     Jessica is selling more because most Phillip fans bought his songs already… and who wants to buy this Walmart issue with that duet added…. if they would have added a new cover, then I could see Phillip staying at the top. He will have to be selling to new fans to make any leeway at Walmart.

    I am more interested in why Joshua and Skylar aren’t selling.. Joshua is supposed to the “best singer that ever sang in the last 50 years and the best ever on AI…”

    And Skylar was supposed to be hugely popular in the Country lane… doesn’t appear she has enough appeal to get people to buy her covers.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VAVE4ELKQELWGDYINVNLPZVFEA Katrina

    nvm…

  • OffLeash

    Walmart’s online preorders don’t mean much. The real test will be with in-store purchases which is where the vast majority of Walmart’s music sales come from. And I suspect Josh, Skylar and Hollie will do very well and maybe even better than both Jessica and Phillip because their fans haven’t had a chance to buy anything from them yet. 

  • brendalmiller

    Phillip and Jessica are both good and will do well.

  • brendalmiller

    Phillip has been #1 over Jessica in Walmart sales at different times so you don’t know that her Walmart cd sales are higher than P2.

  • Anonymous

    wow – they chose some of the best songs. I’m going to have to get some of those EPs!

  • Kirsten

    Which again is irrelevant. It’s about they said and did, not about what you think they can do

    The Internet is a very big place. Is it not possible that we have not ferreted out all the Jessica fans and all that they have done? Perhaps those sneaky Jessica fans have even conducted some of their plotting in Tagalog.

    And with good reasons. You need to demonstrate that these explanation would necessarily favourite Jessica over Phillip and to such a significance

    First, I take issue with Walmart.com preorders being all that significant. They certainly haven’t been in the past. We could be talking about a difference of a couple of CDs a week here.

    Second, given that we see differences in sales all over the place means that it isn’t even remotely unusual to see different trends.

    Last year, Haley trounced James on post-idol iTunes sales, yet their Walmart CD sales were neck and neck. He went on to out-sell her during their debut weeks. Which conniving foreigners were behind that? Maybe there are other factors at play.

    Both Lee and Kris moved more units the week after Idol, but Crystal and Adam outsold them when their CDs dropped in the fall.

    Compare Walmart.com sales to the BB200. Do the match? Are either the same as Amazon? ITunes? Why can we not extrapolate from early HDD numbers? Why do Urban artists tend to do better on HDDs second day and in bricks-and-mortar stores? Why does classical music do better on Amazon than they do on the BB200?

    Perhaps fans of the songs that Jessica sang like Walmart or physical CDs better. Perhaps they prefer android products to Apple ones. Perhaps the think her voice sounds better on higher fidelity CDs while Phil would sound just as good on a Fisher-Price Little Player record.

    I simply do not believe that there are significant numbers of Filipinos buying her CD compared to US buyers. We just know that you have seen some unspecified number of people who claim to be Filipino and claim to be buying it. There probably are a few, but their actions will be dwarfed by American purchasers.

  • Hazehel

    I cannot evaluate this ‘many’. Are we talking millions of Filipinos here?

    If there are people talking about it in the internet (forums, blog post, etc), then it would be reasonable to assume that there would be more also did the same but didn’t talk about it in the internet.  However how many Filipinos actually did pre-order is hard to tell.   Maybe the Walmart chart reflects only a small number of sales (it’s only for online order I think), if that’s true then perhaps a few hundred people might be enough to skew the ranking and push someone high up in the chart, in which case we are probably arguing about nothing, whatever mad theories anyone comes out with could be plausible.  But if it is in the tens of thousand, then that would be harder to explain and should get rid of most of the explanations.  We’ll see what happens when the sales figures come out in a couple of weeks.

  • Hazehel

    First, I take issue with Walmart.com preorders being all that significant. 

    Well, I made this point clear many times (you’d find that I did say Walmart chart could be misleading, etc, in posts I made hours ago, probably last night as well), we don’t actually know what it might be, so it’s not something that you need to take issue with, because we don’t know, but we’ll find out soon enough.

  • Karen C

    In relation, though, they are closer to Phillips sales than the Itunes sales were.   So, for some reason, Jessica’s Walmart sales are closer to Phillips Walmart sales, where Phillips Itunes sales were much higher than Jessica’s. 

  • http://twitter.com/iamAbbySF AbbyisBatGirl

    Filipinos who lives in America voted for Jessica, did they cheat?

  • http://twitter.com/Leeeyuhh Leeeyuhh

    Seriously, you guys are pathetic. Take it for what it is, the girl is talented. She got a lot of fans and she’s selling cd’s. Ya’ll are just bitter. Get a life. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XY62PETGTXO3FFQXX45UKQ2O7M Steph

    I have to laugh. Each and every Idol season it is the same thing. They’re inevitable.

    The Idol fan wars.

    Silly. Pointless. Ridiculous.

    Grown a$$ folks arguing about Wal-Mart CD sales and iTunes positioning of singers who will likely be forgotten when the new season revs up.

    It’s this strange, vicious cycle that we’re all pathetically entertained by. LOL!

  • Anonymous

    It is mainly about the MUSIC!!  I am Filipino, not young, but I prefer PP and will buy his cds.  From what I read in youtube comments, PP has many diehard Filipino fans, even those living in Canada.  They like his music, many dig how he philipped the songs and love his Dave Matthews style.  If volcano is the song he wished he wrote, then we are lookng toward his albums.  By the way, home  was #83 a few hours ago at itunes.  Now it is #60.  When will we hear that Home has reached 500K?

  • Anonymous

     you forget – it is all about the MUSIC!!! They belong to different genre. I am filipino but I like PP’s music. From posts at youtube, there are many like me(also Filipino) who  prefer PP. Many of us have Volcano as our favorite and it is the song he wished he wrote. We look forward for his albums.  And the thing is many love his voice – raspy, gritty.  A few hours ago, home was #80 at itunes, now #63.  When will we know it has reached 500K?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, the whole who won thing give me a headache… The seasons end result was exactly what it should have been …. Phillip way out sold her because he got a sellable song and that helped boost the rest of his numbers… What I would say about jay is that she has 700k twitter followers and has multiple videos on YT with views in excess of 2 million views, and some north of 6 million … That isn’t happening from a tiny fans base… Also when mj posts on jay she gets a good amount of comments… My prediction is that she will sell pretty big when her stuff comes out…

  • your_highnez

    People from the Philippines can’t pre-order from walmart :P Walmart doesn’t ship to the Philippines.

  • http://twitter.com/Westtogo Mike West

    Why the eff would Philippines order cd if it can’t be shipped to them. These people just make me lol. Idol is already over. Stop being insecure. And if they (including others  her fans from indonesia, switzerland, australia, japan, uk etc) can actually order you do know that her sales would probably skyrocket and go over the roof, right? Walmart is just for the US. So please stop this bs. Don’t try and discredit her w/ your dumb theory

  • http://twitter.com/Westtogo Mike West

    You’re pathetic. Why the eff would Philippines order cd if it can’t be shipped to them. Idol is already over. Stop being insecure. And if they (including others  her fans from indonesia, switzerland, australia, japan, uk etc) can actually order you do know that her sales would probably skyrocket and go over the roof, right? yes, i’m talking abot millions. You do know that Walmart is just for the US. So please stop this bs. Don’t try and discredit her w/ your dumb theory

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TWY4PDYXTQIE2IWSQQL54EBZVE Dean

    I am Filipino living in Asia. Though i liked Jessica, i have to admit that i liked Philip’s HOME. And with that song, my gut says PP will win – and win PP did.
    So, it is the song. Change Nothing is not bad but HOME was a home run for Philip. It fit him really well.
    That said, i am interested on what music Jessica will come up with. I will definitely buy. I haven’t bought anything yet but i am waiting. I believe a lot of Filipino Jessica fans like feel the same way i do. I don’t think a lot of Filipno fans were devastated of Jessica’s loss. Besides, i also like PP.
     
    It is just that a talent like Jessica of the same ethnicity does not come often. I thought this was that rare chance. Jessica was good all season and i was really impressed. But it all came down to one song and in the Finale at that.
     
    On the voting, there might be some Filipinos doing that but that is a very small number as to affect the votes (and i believe AI has the technology to weed out those “illegal” votes). Filipinos are at school or work when AI is shown. And those watching are Filipinos who watch English programs And not all Filipinos who watch English programs watch AI. And not all who watch AI vote (like me, never did).
     
    I also have 2 siblings who are US citizens. They never voted though they watch AI. They say they dont have the patience to do that for 2 hours. They are busy at work.
     
    One thing we are sure though, we will buy new music by Jessica.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TWY4PDYXTQIE2IWSQQL54EBZVE Dean

    I am Filipino living in Asia. Though i liked Jessica, i have to admit that i liked Philip’s HOME. And with that song, my gut says PP will win – and win PP did.
    So, it is the song. Change Nothing is not bad but HOME was a home run for Philip. It fit him really well.
    That said, i am interested on what music Jessica will come up with. I will definitely buy. I haven’t bought anything yet but i am waiting. I believe a lot of Filipino Jessica fans like feel the same way i do. I don’t think a lot of Filipno fans were devastated of Jessica’s loss. Besides, i also like PP.
     
    It is just that a talent like Jessica of the same ethnicity does not come often. I thought this was that rare chance. Jessica was good all season and i was really impressed. But it all came down to one song and in the Finale at that.
     
    On the voting, there might be some Filipinos doing that but that is a very small number as to affect the votes (and i believe AI has the technology to weed out those “illegal” votes). Filipinos are at school or work when AI is shown. And those watching are Filipinos who watch English programs And not all Filipinos who watch English programs watch AI. And not all who watch AI vote (like me, never did).
     
    I also have 2 siblings who are US citizens. They never voted though they watch AI. They say they dont have the patience to do that for 2 hours. They are busy at work.
     
    One thing we are sure though, we will buy new music by Jessica.

  • http://twitter.com/afellowblujay YourFellowBlujay PAT

    What’s with all the hate? Are you even a music industry expert? I’m sorry but they are both good, that’s why they’re in the Top 2. Phillip won and Jessica came in second… get over it and wish them the best of luck.

    Why do people like bringing these idols down? They’ve been through a lot to prove themselves. They deserve success. So stop hating.

  • Heide Lacaba

    and you do not have thieves in your own country??? wow.