American Idol 10 Top 11 Redux – The Results!

Naima Adedapo and Thia Megia are eliminated!

A teaser at the beginning of the show tonight warned us: “…and you won’t believe who is going home…”

Uhm. yeah. I would believe it. Although I thought a guy and a girl would go home, I figured both Naima Adedapo and Thia Megia would end up in the Bottom 3, at least.

I was a little surprised Paul McDonald didn’t go home once he hit the B3, but I would not call tonight’s elimination “unbelievable”. Thia and Naima have been on the verge for weeks now. Both had to perform well to stay out of danger. Both had middling (Thia) to weird (Naima) performances this week. So, buh bye.

Paul was probably a near-victim of the “Save Casey” campaign, as I would imagine the two split votes. The biggest surprise for me was Stefano Langone not hitting the B3 at all. But he probably does not split votes with Casey. But, unless he stops performing like a Jersey lounge act, he’s going to be toast soon. Idol is running out of girls to eliminate.

Speaking of girls. The 4 women eliminated so far are 2 African-Americans, a Hispanic and Asian. The 3 remaining girls are white. In fact, the Top 9 are all white, except for Jacob. If he is eliminated next week, it’s going to get a little crazy.

The thing is, the elimination order is influenced by several factors. Don’t forget, Casey was eliminated at 11. All 4 contestants eliminated so far didn’t perform that well on the weeks they were cut. The save, performance order, vote splitting all influence the vote. So I wouldn’t be so quick to pull out the race card, but others looking for an easy angle might. So look out for that.

I’m going to miss Naima. She was talented and creative, but just could not pull her performance and her vocals all together at the same time to create that perfect package. She could have had a moment, but it was not meant to be. She’s going to be hella fun on tour, so I look forward to that.

Thia needs a few more years to rid herself of those pageant tendencies. The original Idol pageant-bot, Diana DeGarmo has blossomed into a fine singer in the 7 years since she was a 16 year old contestant on Idol. Thia’s got the potential, it’s just going to take time.

The small group performances sprinkled in between the results was a cool idea. However…maybe I’m in the minority, but I just hope the group numbers haven’t been abandoned entirely. Some things should never change, and the big cheesy group number is one of those things.

Next week’s theme will be The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Constantine Maroulis is scheduled to perform.

Video and Live Blog after the JUMP…

Two contestants go home tonight! Who will it be? I’ll be live blogging the action right here.

@maskedscheduler tweets, “Gentle reminder.. #IDOL results show will be a bit different 2nite. I realy hope you like the change. We do listen to the audience.”

…and you won’t believe who is going home…Oh really?

55 Million votes last night. A new record for this stage of the competition.

The pointy pose is ditched tonight for duets. What? I didn’t ask for this . BRING BACK THE POINTY POSE.

First up, Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery singing “I Told You So” a duet originally sung by Carrie Underwood and Randy Travis. I won’t say the obvious. Nice try though kids!

Scotty and Lauren take center stage. BOTH ARE SAFE.

Looks like the Idols will sing before being declared safe or in trouble. Interesting.

The Top 11 pimp the Ford Music video challenge. Whoopie. Ford Commercial: Kryptonite. Flash back to the 90s!

Chat with the contestants! Casey says he probably won’t shave the beard. James got a WWE belt from a fan.

Naima Adedapo and Jacob Lusk are next. They sing Ashford and Simpson’s “Solid”. Nice duet. “Solid” is SOLID. Heh. Sorry. POINTY POSE! Better than nothing.

Are they safe? Naima is in the B3 Jacob is SAFE.

The Fabulous Fantasia sings her new single “Collard Greens and Cornbread”. LISHEN! Fanty goes totally old school. Major Motown vibe here. I keep hearing “Heaven must have sent you from above…heaven must have sent your sweet love…” Ha ha. Fantasia finishes the song and says, “Steven, I love you!” Cute. Ryan chats a bit with her. Keep good people with you, who aren’t yes people. First love must always be the music, she tells the kids.

Haley Reinhart, Thia Megia and Pia Toscano sing Katy Perry’s “Teenage Dream”. The beginning was a little shaky, but nice harmonies from the trio!

Who is safe? Pia is SAFE. Thia is in the B3. Haley is SAFE

KRIS ALLEN IN THE HOUSE! Ryan introduces him in the audience. His wife Katy is also there. I wonder where Zorro is? At the doggie sitters?

Video package: A week in the life of the Idols – At Celebrity Fight Night a few weeks ago. Oh. The mansion is leaking! So the kids are packing up to FLEE THE HAUNTED MANSION OMG. The in-house shrink is spending time with a newly-saved Casey Abrams. He’s crying. Aw. The post-boot shrink meetings are being filmed now? Alrighty then.

Paul McDonald, Casey Abrams, James Durbin and Stefano Langone debut their house band! Casey, James and Paul are on guitar, Stefano on keyboards. They sing “Band on the Run”. That was kind of a trainwreck, but they probably didn’t get much time to rehearse.

Who is safe? Casey is first “If you knew how many you got you’d be very proud” says Ryan. Really? He’s safe. James is next. Of course, James is safe. Stefano and Paul are left. ohhhh. Stefano is SAFE! Paul is in the B3.

Jamie Foxx and Will.i.am sing “Hot Wings” from the animated movie Rio.

Back! Lauren Alaina is in tears. Paul is safe! WHOA. Two girls are eliminated tonight. We’re left with a sausage fest! Only 3 girls remain. 3 WHITE girls. Wow. The first 4 eliminated were not only women, but women of color. The goodbye video plays. Hello Cookie! Goodbye Naima and Thia.

Bottom 3

  • Naima Adedapo
  • Thia Megia
  • Paul McDonald

  • jammasta

    @maskedscheduler tweets, “Gentle reminder.. #IDOL results show will be a bit different 2nite. I realy hope you like the change. We do listen to the audience.”

    Hmmm… What could this be?

    -Naked Paul McDonald
    -Pia Toscano has a solo in an upbeat song
    -While results are being declared, Mary J. Blige comes back to Jacob Lusk, who gets really excited to meet her until she tells him that he is one of the two leaving tonight. She promptly disappears like a magician. Jacob cries throughout his singout.
    -KRADAM DUET!
    -Naked Steven Tyler

    …I seriously can’t make a serious thought about what this could be. A lovey-dovey elimination night?

  • taywatch

    I hope you publish a link for the West Coasters!

  • http://www.dancin.ca dancin

    im on a train will miss the show sigh will have to live vicariously thru the blog lol

  • IdolThoughts

    jammasta…thank you so much for the laugh. That was awesome. David Cook single snippet would also make me happy. :-)

  • mozart4898

    Naked Steven Tyler

    This would probably take care of me worrying about watching the show at all the rest of the season. The blindness would take care of that dilemma.

  • claudette

    I’m saying it now….Lauren is going home as a surprise.

  • alison8701

    wait what about Paul being naked?

    and I love these new super dramatic intros!!!!

  • Miss Blue

    #IDOL results show will be a bit different 2nite. I realy hope you like the change. We do listen to the audience.”

    I shall now assume that we will have the results within the first ten minutes, and the show will then end. The usual 50 minutes of filler will not be seen this evening.

    Umm,,,yeah. Not in my lifetime.

    PS. JLo looks very pretty this evening.

  • jericho
  • webster

    Did results shows used to be a half hour, or am I imagining that?

  • primeminister

    “And you won’t believe who’s going home tonight”

    WHATTTTT?!

  • taywatch

    Does anybody have a link for tbe live feed?

  • partyintheusa

    Constantine Maroulis is scheduled to perform.

    That made me throw up in mouth a little.

  • girlygirl

    does anyone have a feed that works? the Joe’s Place one isn’t working for me. thanks

  • TwigLA

    Any links to live streaming tonight?

  • iluvai

    “And you won’t believe who’s going home tonight”

    WHATTTTT?!

    Now I’m scared….lol

  • IdolThoughts

    JLo is breathtakingly beautiful. And…she’s a nice person. Who knew? I kinda wanted to hate her.

  • Miss Blue

    UGH. UGH, UGH, UGH. And click. I’ll follow the blog, I will not listen to Scott.

  • jammasta

    Lauren/Scott duet. Nice.

  • webster

    Cool duets!

  • girlygirl

    why are Scotty and Lauren getting a duet by themselves?

    or are all the Idols doing different duets?

  • iluvai

    Lauren sounds way better than Scotty. But I hate this song.

  • alison8701

    aw, duets! How cute.

  • leome

    aww this is good.
    And Lauren really has a great voice.

  • taywatch

    girlygirl – the link posted up thread is working – seeontv

  • partyintheusa

    Wow! This is sensational! Go Lauren and Scotty!

  • Lucy1234

    Duets, interesting. I can’t believe Scotty and Lauren are both teenagers – they are quite good.

  • webster

    Stream at justtvnuts.com works

  • http://www.amadcow2.com amadcow2

    Lauren looks kind of terrified. I don’t think she’s dealing well with elimination night.

  • jericho

    I posted the link from last night that is working for me. here it is again http://www.seeon.tv/view/8818/

  • sr4mjc

    That was great!

  • jammasta

    Does Lauren look like a white Paige Miles to anyone else?

    These two better be safe.

    And of course they are. Awesome. YES.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love the Lauren/Scott duet and stuff, but I’m here for results! :P

    Casey/Haley
    James/Pia
    Jacob/Naima
    Thia/Stefano
    Paul/Paul’s twin brother…. Saul.

  • sma11ie

    I really liked that. I’m a Lauren fan.

    I saw a lot of Thia signs… gulp.

  • Caffiend

    Duets! Yes! Go, Nigel!

  • Trina

    That duet was fantastic!

  • koshka

    awww they sounded good together. I wasn’t planning on watching, but I think I will now.

  • soccerboi

    Lauren and Scottie are both going to be country sensations. They both have star quality

  • glambotgram

    Wow very nice Lauren and Scotty.

  • luval

    ok, so the duet takes the place of the cheesy group number. But I like cheese. Maybe there will be more duets?

    duh… duets through the whole show.

  • jericho

    Great duet. Wonder what the next pairing will be? Pia and Jacob? James and Paul?

  • Lucy1234

    It will be interesting to see who else they pair up.

  • kozisedso

    Wow – are they all going to sing tonight? No separate sing-out for the bootees? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • flyaway

    Oh-oh! As they were showing the hands playing the piano on the intro did it say “you won’t believe – – -who goes home tonight”?

  • luly

    I like the idea of duets.

  • Miss Blue

    I”m with MJ – bring back the pointy pose. Glad Lauren is safe, knew Scott would be safe, unfortunately.

  • lili_anne7

    I thought the duet was nice and sweet,

  • sue

    Yay duets! They did this on Canadian Idol before. I like this. I bet it will be Haley and Casey!!! Caley FTW!

  • Tony

    That duet was incredible. Pitch perfect and flawless.

  • girlygirl

    Kris had a cryptic tweet, which has twitter wondering if he’s there at the show (either in the audience or possibly as surprise performance. I would guess the former — if he even stuck around after going over to the AI ofices earlier today)

    krisallen
    Great to be back at @americanidol gonna be exciting to see what happens tonight.
    31 minutes ago

  • partyintheusa

    First up, Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery singing “I Told You So” sung by Carrie Underwood and Randy Travis. I won’t say the obvious. Nice try though kids!

    WTF is that supposed to mean? It wasn’t that bad…sheesh!

  • mozart4898

    Maybe I’m just way too harsh, but I have yet to hear Lauren sing where she doesn’t sound like she’s…I dunno, losing her voice just a little or something? It always seems like she’s just the slightest bit forced. She seems to me to be at the very edge of sounding great but that one thing bugs me every time I’ve heard her.

    Anyone else notice in the last phrase of the duet that Scotty actually can sing more than just super low? I’m actually kinda intrigued what sort of range he really has…he may have a whole other octave on the high end that I haven’t heard.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    Really enjoyed Scotty and Lauren

  • girlygirl

    That was a nice duet. Since there are 11 contestants left, does someone get a solo performance or will there be a trio?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Scotty and Lauren did a nice job. Was Scotty’s mic a bit low? Seemed to me that his voice was muted a bit, unlike Lauren’s.

  • Miss Blue

    I liked that commercial. One of the best so far this season.

  • Jx223

    Lauren and Scotty sounded good together. I had wondered what those two would sound like if they dueted. I thought their duet was nice, I enjoyed that. :)

  • Ratna12

    Even if Lauren will not go to top 2 or 3, they should just sign her.
    I think she has so much potential too. She was great and still so young.

  • OnePlusSix

    I’m not a big country fan but I must say that Scotty & Lauren were good. Kudos to them! I’m liking the duet concept over the group number.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Seems like a “shock” boot tonight.

  • mozart4898

    Scotty and Lauren did a nice job. Was Scotty’s mic a bit low? Seemed to me that his voice was muted a bit, unlike Lauren’s.

    I think their mic levels were the same…Lauren’s just got a more powerful voice, and higher range tends to carry better than low. At least that’s my guess.

  • songsungblue

    Jacob has SUCH an amazing voice. I wish he got more love. :(

  • lizland

    Um, this is a pretty dated terrible song. I feel bad for Naima and Jacob stuck with this. They sound pretty good, although tentative on anything but the chorus. The dancing is worth some LOLs.

  • Lucy1234

    OMG Jacob and Niame – not good IMO

  • jammasta

    Jacob and Naima. Feels cool. I like Scott and Lauren’s duet more, however.

    I bet Naima is gone :(.

  • girlygirl

    Jacob and Naima’s duet is pretty good too

  • Miss Blue

    h/t to whoever called this one. Oh my. Jacob. Not sure which of these two is more OTT, but it’s a pretty good duet.

  • keware

    Lauren and Scotty blew Jacob and Naima away.

  • webster

    I like the duets. Pointy pose is ok when they get down to the last 6, and it’s always good as a joke, but this is great for really hearing them, especially since they’re relatively relaxed.

  • sr4mjc

    Naima sounded so much better tonight, I’ll be sad to see her go.

  • Miss Blue

    O. O. I may have blown the pool already.

  • Lucy1234

    No surprise there – Naime in the bottom 3

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    No good Naima and Jacob.

  • girlygirl

    not surprised that naima’s in bottom 3, but boo, anyway.

  • Miss Blue

    Fantasia? Geez, this show is out to get me tonight. First I have to suffer through Scott, now Fantasia. If Taylor is a surprise guest they will have covered all the bases of my loathing.

  • primeminister

    I liked the Scotty half of the duet. >.>

    Lauren was a little harder to believe. She sang it beautifully, but it needed more than technical proficiency.

  • jammasta

    Jacob’s safe. Naima B3. Bleh.

    Predictable, but slightly disappointing. Jacob’s really extreme. He either sucks horrifically or is amazing, but not amazing enough to negate the horrible performances. I hope he leaves soon >_>.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I thought that Naima and Jacob’s duet was a bit awkwardly performed. Not surprised that Naima is in the bottom 3.

  • claudette

    That was the best Lauren has sung to me. I think she is fantastic for a 16 year old. She has not reached her potential. They were much better than Jacob and Naimi. (I still think Lauren barely made it safe)

  • alison8701

    Are they singing full songs? Or does it just feel that way?

  • OnePlusSix

    Naima knew it was her.

  • luval

    Just went for a potty break. Who is this woman in the red dress?

  • girlygirl

    Is it me or does Fantasia look a lot older than she actually is?

  • iluvai

    Fantasia? Geez, this show is out to get me tonight. First I have to suffer through Scott, now Fantasia. If Taylor is a surprise guest they will have covered all the bases of my loathing.

    lol! :)

  • Miss Blue

    Did Fanty inhale some helium right before this? Man, I didn’t like her on her season but I don’t remember her sounding this bad.

    She’s not looking so hot, either. Ugh.

  • OnePlusSix

    Not a big fan of Fantasia would have preferred Jennifer Hudson.

  • sue

    WTF is this Fanty?

  • songsungblue

    I can’t help it, I LOVE Fantasia. She’s so totally herself, and entirely awesome.

  • Kirkee

    Crap. Naima in the bottom 3.

  • rayni

    I loved both duets! So much fun and they were so good!

  • soccerboi

    um so Fantasia got fat.

  • koshka

    l says:
    03/31/2011 at 8:25 pm
    Is it me or does Fantasia look a lot older than she actually is?

    I was just thinking the same thing. How old is she now?

  • jammasta

    Fantasia, this isn’t much of a “Get up on your feet” song…. And I like this type of music, but the look is SOOOOO distracting. I mean……

    WHAT AM I LOOKING AT?! O_O

    I’m scared.

  • lizland

    I hope Naima doesn’t leave. She’s one of the most interesting and fun contestants in a while.

  • glambotgram

    Fantasia is horrible as usual, Couldn’t stand her when she won and it has not gotten any better. She should have had a duet with Jacob.

  • HermeticallySealed

    For some reason Fantasia is reminding me of Ruby Rod tonight . . .

  • mozart4898

    All I can think every time the backup singers add their “ohh hoo hoo’s” is Cee Lo Green…

  • luval

    With that voice she would never have been put through. At least this season, anyway. That was really awful.

  • jericho

    Fantasia looks like a big red shiny cow. What’s with the hair? And why does she slur or lisp certain words? I dislike her..alot.

  • Miss Blue

    Blahblahblahblahblahblahblah. And I’m quite sure I didn’t type that even one-tenth as fast as Fanty said it.

  • leome

    omg, Haley and Pia singing together! I am excited.

  • gangreen29

    I just got home. These groups of singing are very interesting.

  • Miss Blue

    LOVE THIS! Now WHY are these girls not singing this stuff on performance nights??????

    Thia, Pia, Haley – BRAVO! Excellent!

  • andhowarewe

    The producers deserve a TON of credit for the duets. One of the best ideas they’ve had since the show began!

  • sma11ie

    Ha, I kinda loved Fantasia there. I love her vibe, even if that’s not my kinda music.

    Ha, Pia uptempo and current! Ha!

  • Niall

    Fantasia isn’t aging well. What? She’s not a 40 year old recovering alcoholic?! She’s only 26? Coulda fooled me.

  • jammasta

    Haley, Thia, Pia O_O.

    OH GOD PIA UPTEMPO CALLED IT KINDA.

    Holy CRAP Haley. That was really chaotic.

    Pia does something upbeat, but she has to be in a group >_>. Her solo was nice though.

    Yeah, this is like watching 3 friends having fun while Naima is awkwardly clapping in the back. Scott and Lauren are better than the other two duets.

  • leome

    wow Fantasia has a great voice. Still does. Even If I’m not into her music she really has a fantastic voice.

  • songsungblue

    Fantasia is AWESOME. That is all. I f’love her.

    Thia doesn’t have any idea what that song is about! LULZ

  • mozart4898

    I figured out Haley…someone was saying in another thread that no one compares her to anyone because she doesn’t sound like anyone else. Regina Spektor, with a blues growl.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Sooo. Are they supposed to be the Angels?

  • webster

    This trio is good, really works to pull both Haley and Pia in a good direction.

  • googletot

    OMG – Fantasia was horrible, and she has put on weight all over including her face.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m not a fan of Fantasia’s but for some reason, she makes me smile. I thought that she was very genuine in her advice to the contestants.

  • julies

    I like these duets! I’d rather hear them sing than the usual filler!!

  • girlygirl

    that trio was not great — the 3 styles didn’t mesh real well

    yay, Haley’s safe!

  • leome

    Yes!! One more week for Haley. I’m really hoping Stefano is next.

  • lizland

    That was great. Pia CAN do uptempo. I wonder if Haley is used to being a backup singer. That is kind of what all those strange movements look like.

  • gangreen29

    I figured out Haley…someone was saying in another thread that no one compares her to anyone because she doesn’t sound like anyone else. Regina Spektor, with a blues growl.

    Hmm..interesting. I’m not sure I fully agree, but interesting.

  • OnePlusSix

    Once again, predictable – Thia.

  • claudette

    Pia needs to stick with ballads. That was terrible. Her dramatic mannerisms are more suited to Celine stuff. Haley is really starting to push ahead.

  • sue

    Oh crude if Stefano doesn’t hit the bottom 3, I lose all my points.
    :( …..lol

    That is the most upbeat song Pia has performed since Hollywood. Are they doing the Glee thing now. lol

  • girlygirl

    so Thia and Naima in the B3. To be joined by — Stefano?

  • Miss Blue

    I thought that she was very genuine in her advice to the contestants.

    Really? Well, I suppose that’s good then. I couldn’t understand a word she said.

  • keware

    Haley was not good in this trio. Thia…who knows…she didn’t even get one solo word. Pia was so much better than Haley. I’m really getting tired of the growl.

  • webster

    So, the rest of the guys need to sing together, or we know the next pair is safe. They wouldn’t have a pair sing after the bottom is known. Or the do two duets before calling the last slot

  • Mtlfan

    yayayay Haley’s safe.
    Isn’t Pia sounding wonderful on pop song!?

  • luval

    The trio seemed out of tune. But nice to see Pia sing something upbeat.

  • jammasta

    Thia B3. So either Naima or Thia is going home. That’s a little lame, I’d have both stay if I could, but I guess it has to happen.

    Groups in this order so far:

    Scott/Lauren – Only one I thought was good.
    Haley/Pia/Thia – Just a’ight, Haley was a disaster. Pia sounds good upbeat, however, she should be doing this music more often! Or arrange one of her songs and make it more current. Thia got no solo. lol. bye Thia.
    Jacob/Naima – Too awkward on Jacob’s part.

  • songsungblue

    But then how are the results OMG!!! shocking? I’m putting my sweet Paul in there. Sigh.

  • mozart4898

    Hmm..interesting. I’m not sure I fully agree, but interesting.

    I’d have to actually listen to her more to really be sure (and I think Spektor is better) but there seems to be quite a similar tone there.

  • Lucy1234

    We have four guys left – wonder who sings with who?

  • leome

    wtf is happening to Kris hair? i haven’t seen him in ages but I wasn’t expecting him to look like a 40 years old. wow, that was weird.

  • girlygirl

    hi Kris!!!

  • Ratna12

    KRIS !!!!
    Looking good :)
    I need to DVR it tonight.

  • Duke

    I love me some fantasia. The old school idol winners r just…magical….well, sub clay for ruben then its magical…

  • koshka

    leomo – I was wondering the same. I think its longer and darker.

  • Miss Blue

    Ohhh. So sad. My father was a professional boxer, I met Ali dozens of times and it is so sad seeing Ali so frail. He was the most handsome young man. Seemed larger than life and just filled the room.

  • gangreen29

    The old school idol winners r just…magical….well, sub clay for ruben then its magical…

    I agree !

  • Lucy1234

    I missed the first part, did Ryan say shocking results this week?

  • songsungblue

    Miss Blue. I heart you. :) I was thinking the same thing [except that my dad was NOT a professional boxer. We’re Jewish! LOL]

  • Niall

    I thought that she was very genuine in her advice to the contestants.

    “Okay, y’all. You gonna be stars and can do whatever you want. Date married men, take nekkid pictures of yoself, miss show after show on Broadway. And if anybody call you out for it you blame others! You play the victim! You a star, baby!”

  • sr4mjc

    eww, the boys sound horrible.

  • jammasta

    LMAO. This is kinda cool. A quartet!

    I kinda hope James doesn’t play guitar on this show >_>.

  • webster

    Cool to make them a band, but lame beginning.

  • Jx223

    I don’t think that Naima/Jacob sounded good together.

    I don’t think that Pia/Thia/Haley sounded good together either. They had the boring girls sing together.

    Fantasia got much thicker. I thought that she sounded nice, but I wish that they would have went with a different single for her like “Man Of The House”. I still think that song should have been a single and would have helped her sell more albums.

  • Inconnu

    Oh I love those guys singing together. That’s great! What a good idea!

    ETA: Humm, that was kind of a mess..lol

  • koshka

    LOL what a boy band!!!

  • sma11ie

    They’re gonna milk that Casey footage forever, aren’t they? Enough…LOL, the boys band is sooooo cheesy fun, lolollol. Kinda adorable but horrible. Ha. Poor Jacob didn’t get asked with the boys! I think the band’s breaking up though, cuz Stefano’s gone… I wish Stefano had broken out the piano even once…

  • keware

    These four boys should never form a band together out in the real world. This isn’t good. Except James….he’s sounding ok.

  • Miss Blue

    Paul’s voice is just gone. He sounds nothing like his pre-Idol recordings. He needs to have his nodules fixed.

    Stefano does not fit with the rest of these guys. It’s a hokey jam band, fun for them, and still he doesn’t fit, lol.

  • Lucy1234

    Paul is such a natural on stage – I hope he doesn’t go home this week.

  • girlygirl

    well hopefully James, Paul, Casey and Stefano never form a band for real, because this isn’t very good

  • koshka

    sr4mjc says:
    03/31/2011 at 8:42 pm
    eww, the boys sound horrible.

    THey do.. but so much better than the cheezy group songs. LOL

  • girlygirl

    Kris is trending worldwide on twitter :)

  • Tony

    God damn the boys were awful

  • Jx223

    eww, the boys sound horrible.

    lol.

    I think they sounded just okay,better than Jacob,Naima and Thia/Pia/Haley,but not as good as Scotty/Lauren.

  • lili_anne7

    That band was terrible.

  • alison8701

    NOOOO

  • MrDuffin

    I loved that Fantasia was on tonight! She was so……Fantasia! I wish Simon could have been there to comment. Nothing like a visual to bring a point home…

  • girlygirl

    ooh, that’s a bit of a surprise…I was sure it would be Stefano

  • HermeticallySealed

    Paul is going home.

  • Miss Blue

    “Okay, y’all. You gonna be stars and can do whatever you want. Date married men, take nekkid pictures of yoself, miss show after show on Broadway. And if anybody call you out for it you blame others! You play the victim! You a star, baby!”

    Bwah! You are my hero, lol.

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    Wow, I expected Stefano. Paul better not be gone.

  • http://www.dancin.ca dancin

    there go my points sigh

  • sue

    Oh shit there goes all my points. I will never believe DI again, lol.
    It is probably Paul and Thia going.

  • jericho

    dang it!!! i changed my vote from paul to stefano! dang! dang! dang!

  • primeminister

    AHHHH. Dangit, Paul in the B3. I think he’s going home now. :(

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Not a good “band” performance. Finally, Paul in the bottom. I think that he’s the “shock” boot.

  • sunchick

    Ha ha, band on the run. Oh, boys. That was amusing. But I feel bad for Paul. And Naima :(.

  • sma11ie

    OMG, Paul? He’s not going, so I guess it’s 2 girls? Boo. There go my points. Well, I still got 10 on Thia… but wut, I was sure Stefano was gone! I ain’t mad- I just hope he breaks out the piano next week, and starts connecting and cuts out the weird phrasing.

  • s0x_prisoner

    Awwwwww damnit. I think Paul might be going home. NOOOOOOOOOOO

  • webster

    Wow. I have no points on Paul, but I hope he’s out. I think Thia and Naima could, in principle, improve. I don’t think Paul could. I think his limitations are largely physical.

  • primeminister

    I can’t believe Paul is going to leave before Stefano and Jacob. Ugh.

    At least I finally picked up the phone last night, so I can legitimately be sad, heh.

  • Miss Blue

    Umm…okay. Can we get the boys’ band back on stage? I’ll take them over this. Ick.

  • http://www.dancin.ca dancin

    omg this is just horrible

  • Ratna12

    I hope that Paul will go home and rest his vocal cord before he damages it even further.

  • Caffiend

    Paul in the bottom 3 has restored my faith in America’s judgment.

  • sunchick

    Seriously, y’all, if I never hear another song about partying, it will be too soon. Make. It. Stop.

  • Inconnu

    Paul :-( I’m not ready to see him go. Naima either. This sucks.

  • lizland

    It’s too bad the site doesn’t work on game day. Does it work better on other browsers? I use firefox.

  • tinawina

    I actually put 5 each on Paul, Stefano, Naima and Thia. So at least I get 10 pool points no mater what.

    Clearly, Paul is the “surprise” boot. I hope Naima squeaked out another week.

    Funny, this was the first week I liked Paul since Hollywood, and I was kinda looking forward to what he’d do with Rock N Roll week. Bummer.

  • Caffiend

    Yay to Stefano being safe. Unlike Paul, he can actually sing. Thia and Paul gone would be a great end to my evening.

  • sma11ie

    That was a hot mess live performance. But the movie looks cute.

  • songsungblue

    Paul is such a charismatic performer, I kind of want him to go home and stop being kicked around by those VFTW trolls. He’s actually a gifted musician. Stefano is like Anthony Federov 2.0. Blech-tastic!

  • Miss Blue

    I’m a fan of Paul’s but I’m actually glad he’s going home. His voice is just shot to hell. The kid is better than how he’s coming off on this show. I’d rather see him go now than tarnish his reputation any further.

    Heal up those vocal chords, Paul. Then get signed and be a hit with your band.

  • mozart4898

    I think the biggest problem with the guys’ band was having all 4 of them take solos. It’s pretty clear (well ok, I’m sure some will disagree so this is just my opinion) that James and Casey are the better singers – they, or even just James, should be singing lead if they were actually going to do more. The 4 part harmony they hit partway into the song though was quite solid. I don’t think the song itself really suited them that well though either. But yeah, in general, probably just didn’t have enough time.

  • webster

    Ok, that sucks. Oh, well. I got some points

  • alison8701

    OH THANK GOD.

  • songsungblue

    Yay to Stefano being safe. Unlike Paul, he can actually sing.

    Well, that’s a matter of opinion. I think Stefano is so boring, his nickname is…Stefano. Heh, heh.

  • leome

    well, I’m glad Paul stayed but sad to see Naima go :(
    at least we’ll get tour videos next summer.

  • sue

    The judges didn’t talk at all. lol

  • tinawina

    Paul’s safe! 4 girls of color in a row. LOL. The press on this tomorrow will be… interesting.

  • mozart4898

    Damn. I’m not a girl but even I’ll say, this is getting ridiculous for the girls. I really don’t think a girl can win this show again. No, neither of them was going to win, but they’re definitely going before some guys that should go at this point…

  • luval

    If I hear another song about “party” or “in the club” or “dj”, I will jump off a cliff. Not a great advertisement for RIO.

  • gangreen29

    So can we finally say the idol audience is biased against women? Any doubters still left out there?

  • Lisa

    Anyone else been seein’ a lil sumpin sumpin between Lauren & Paul the last few weeks? I thought it was brother/sister thing. Tonight Lauren burst into tears over Paul & when they just came back she has a death grip around his neck crying. What up with those two? lol

  • jammasta

    Blah. I would’ve rather had Jacob, Stefano, or Pia go before Naima, who’s at least interesting.

    I’m gonna use two phones now to vote James and Scott every week I think.

  • julies

    Yeah for Kris Allen!!
    Lauren’s crying just earned her big!! She now looks less self-centered. It will pay off!

  • sma11ie

    Sad. I was looking forward to one of Naima’s crazy ideas actually working out and turning into a moment one of these days. The competition will be more boring without her. They didn’t say who finished higher, did they?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Was that performance by Jamie and Will.i.am supposed to make us want to see the movie? Really? lol

  • http://www.dancin.ca dancin

    well another year the girls get picked off 1×1
    wasnt invested in anyone so much but this is wrong and GOD FORBID A GUY GETS booted RUSH TO SAVE
    load of crap

  • girlygirl

    so much for it being a girls’ season

    I’m gonna miss Naima. Thia not so much.

  • Tristessa

    Argh, my bf convinced me to change my pool points from Thia to Stefano just before the show.

    I’m glad Paul isn’t going home, I really like him. I wish Naima was also staying though, I would have sent home Thia and Stefano. I love Stefano’s voice, but not his style of singing.

  • sr4mjc

    It sucks not to have a penis on this show.

  • flyaway

    Surprised a bit by Paul being bottom 3 when he had one of his best performances. Did he lose votes to Casey? Did Stefano get extra voters due to 2 lackluster weeks?

    Paul should get the pimp spot next week, should get sympathy votes and should do well (if his voice allows) on a rock and roll theme.

  • Lovesyesha

    Ok, the sausage fest on idol is getting ridiculous! Both of these girls should have stayed based on performance/originality (Naima) and sheer vocal quality (Thia) over Paul, Stefano, and Jacob (not to mention Haley, but she had a great week and is a girl so I left her out). Can we please, please, please all vote Pia and Lauren into the final four simply because they are in the top 4 singers? Seriously, idol is about variety! I am sick of seeing four guys performing and only one girl. People on here say Pia is boring, but really, that is what is boring. Come on America, let’s get it together!

  • s0x_prisoner

    YAY PAUL :D

  • sunchick

    Should have been Thia and Stefano.

  • Wubba1973

    That is 4 Minority women off the show….lets call it the White american Idol

  • songsungblue

    I’m sure Lauren and Thia were tight – being the teenage girls and all. Somehow I don’t see Haley and Lauren hanging out and sharing make up tips.

  • jammasta

    Do you guys think that now that the girls are leaving one by one, Pia will be getting more of the votes?

    I hope to God not. I don’t want her getting too close to the finale. I haven’t felt this strongly against someone during their Idol run since Lee DeWyze… wait that was last year.

    I’m sure I’ll buy her post-Idol stuff, but I don’t want anyone more interesting leaving before her, like what just happened tonight. To be fair, Naima didn’t do all that well.

  • Nedsdag

    Can anyone give me a good reason to watch the rest of this season? I’m bored already.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    So can we finally say the idol audience is biased against women? Any doubters still left out there?

    Nope. It’s been worse the past few years as the Idol audience has skewed more towards older females.

  • primeminister

    I think Paul vote-splits with Casey.

  • Trina

    Its a girls year obviously!!

    That band was a mess. Paul sounded terrible there.

  • tomr

    Yea! I finally got it all right! Picked those bottom 3 and chose Niama and Thia to go home. Full points! A miracle! There’s still hope for me. Disappointing night compared to last week. Happy for Casey and Stefano. Only ones not in the bottom yet…James, Pia, Lauren, Scott…one of them is your winner. :)

  • windmills

    Hopefully Paul, Stefano, and Casey are the next 3 voted out. They’ve all hit bottom 3 so their overall fanbases probably aren’t as big as the others. Casey got the sympathy boost this week (and Stefano probably did too) so hopefully that’ll settle down.

    Naima getting voted out is the one that makes me sad because she brought a current, interesting, and inventive flavor to the show.

  • Niall

    Anyone else been seein’ a lil sumpin sumpin between Lauren & Paul the last few weeks? I thought it was brother/sister thing. Tonight Lauren burst into tears over Paul & when they just came back she has a death grip around his neck crying. What up with those two?

    Nothing unless Paul wants to do 5-10 years for statutory rape.

  • mozart4898

    Anyone else been seein’ a lil sumpin sumpin between Lauren & Paul the last few weeks? I thought it was brother/sister thing. Tonight Lauren burst into tears over Paul & when they just came back she has a death grip around his neck crying. What up with those two? lol

    I thought I’d read somewhere that Lauren and Thia were pretty close…and for that matter regardless of how the results went, at least one more of the girls was going, maybe Lauren’s actually pretty close to all of them. Or, maybe she’s close to everyone, not just the girls but all the contestants, and hates seeing any of them go.

  • OnePlusSix

    I could have done without Jamie and Will.i.am. Just saying.

    They say there’s comfort in numbers…I’mhappy that they had each other tonight for the send-off. It would have been much harder being given the boots solo. Naima isn’t the greatest singer on the show but at least she shows diversity and stage presence and will be missed for that.

  • alison8701

    I noticed the Lauren/Paul thing. According to one backstage thing, they were play shoving and giggling awhile ago. And she for sure had a tight grip on paul.

    She might have been upset over Thia leaving, but everyone says Thia is super shy.

    I could see Lauren being a little smitten with the cool handsome older guy.

  • tinawina

    I wanted to see what Namia could do with Rock N Roll week. I would have much rather Stefano go home.

    If its Jacob or a girl next week? This show is done.

  • Lulu2

    Dagnabit, Naima is INTERESTING! And PERFORMS. WHat a drag.

  • Jx223

    I’m not surprised that Naima/Thia went home. I don’t think that Naima was a very good singer and Thia was mostly boring in spite of having a decent voice. I think these reasons are a big part of why they went home tonight.

  • LaRue

    well, sub clay for ruben then its magical…

    Aw, poor Ruben. He doesn’t get to play with the elves, pixie fairies, and unicorns because he’s not magical. Whatever shall he do? LOL!

    Yipes, the girls are falling like flies in winter again. Something has to give one of these years, right?

    I don’t care who wins, but I want things to be as fair as possible. And it doesn’t seem like it is. Anyone that isn’t a white guy need not apply. :-(

  • sma11ie

    primeminister says:
    03/31/2011 at 9:11 pmI think Paul vote-splits with Casey.

    Oooh, maybe! Everyone rushed to save Casey after last week and Paul ends up B3. Unfortunately, this B3 trip earned Paul a few more weeks. I know Naima hasn’t proven herself, but I honestly found her a lot more interesting potentially than Paul (or Stefano, or Scotty, while we’re at it!). I’ve seen all I need to see from Paul. Thia, beautiful voice, but she needed to go.

  • IdolThoughts

    I’m going to miss Naima!

    I hope Paul fans vote like cray cray next week. I know I will.

  • sr4mjc

    Maybe Jimmy should spend less time throwing the girls under the bus and the guys should be called out on their none so perfect vocals. But, playing devil’s advocate, they did cast a bunch of pageant bots this year. Like last year with the singer/songwriter type girls. They split votes.

  • missytoots

    Naima :(

  • HR

    After last week when the American Idol voting audience had the sense to vote off the person who deserved it the most they were lectured by the judges about how wrong they were and had their vote overturned. This week the Idol audience on cue delivers the predictable booting of girl’s. I am happy Paul made the bottom three but he was the worst of the night and deserved to go home.

    One thing that is clear to me after those duets is that Scotty is the only male singer I can see a future for. The rest were out of tune and not relevant. Pia showed she could be relevant but she persists in selling herself otherwise on performance nights.

    My picks for people that I could see being worthy to sign are Lauren, Pia and Scotty. The rest can leave now.

  • partyintheusa

    Fantasia looked like she was about 60. And no MJ, she is NOT fabulous! She is awful!

  • gangreen29

    I can’t say that any of the guys don’t deserve a spot more than Thia or Naima…except for Stefano. He is like Tim Urban in that he just doesn’t belong there, but is getting by on being a cute boy.

  • claudette

    Remember Thia, Lauren and Scotty are in class 3 hours a day together so naturally they’d be the closest.

    Casey took votes from everyone and I’m sure was the highest and will be. More pimping tonight. I think he’d make a great winner and I’d like to see him play instruments again.

    Pia will be the only female in top 5. Yuck.

  • movin2thabeet

    I think it should have been Thia and Stefano, too. I’m kind of surprised that the 3rd was Paul and not Stefano. Personally, I didn’t really care for either performance, but I thought Paul had more of a fanbase. Could be folks were splitting votes with Casey to make sure he was safe. I have no idea.

    ETA. I thought the duets and band numbers were the lamest of the lame. This night felt like karaoke night to me. And that Rio mess! One big cartoonish commercial. Yuck. (Although I liked the Capoeira.)

  • TheOther

    So can we finally say the idol audience is biased against women? Any doubters still left out there?

    Well, as much as I personally like Naima, the weakest performers of the week were eliminated. From here on, I see Haley, Paul, Stefano, Jacob as the more vulnerable ones. America does seem to be getting it right this season. I see the Top 3 to be Pia, Scotty, James. Lauren and Casey vyving for the 4th spot.

  • naz

    I am just so happy that Stefano is safe. You guys give him a break. He is so underrated. 0ne bad performance from last week make everyone hate him that much? Other contestants, I won’t say who, also have had bad performance, but they got free pass? Some never hit the bottom 3. Now I understand it is about the fans. Stefano’s fan is small compare to other male contestant, BUT, Stefano is just as good as others. Please give him some credits :( Sorry for my bad English :(

  • Nedsdag

    I am trying to find someone to be excited over. To be honest, I don’t want to download any of the remaining contestants. At one time I was interested in Casey, but I don’t think he’s consistent enough. Everyone else seems bland or too over the top for me. In the case of Lauren too immature. And can someone please fix her makeup. When she cried, she looked like Tammy Faye Bakker.

  • iluvai

    The two I wanted to leave tonight were guys: Casey and Scotty.

    I’m pretty sure a guy will leave next week.

  • julies

    Lauren’s tears may earn her big…doesn’t look as self-centered!

    Yeah for a Kris Allen shout-out…even if it hurt Ryan to do it!

  • jrain

    People are overreacting. The guys will start to go soon. All the weaker contests will go first, doesn’t matter which order. Your top 4 are Lauren, Pia, James, Scotty. 2 guys, 2 girls. Everybody else for one reason or another will be gone in the next few weeks but I can see people cry bloody murder next week if haley goes.

  • Owlgirl

    Well, at least Naima’s going to be on the tour. Wouldn’t be shocked if a girl went next week too. It’s just tough to be a woman on idol.

    I think Paul and Casey must vote split too. Wonder who’ll pick up Naima and Thia’s votes.

  • MrDuffin

    This year is like WWF and Jerry Springer rolled into one. The talent this year is terrible. There is not one REALLY good singer in the entire group. At least S9 can now happily not be the worst year….and I bet Simon is LHAO! :)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Thia will be OK. David Foster has shown an interest in her.

  • gabriel oak

    Really it’s time for a guy to go. Like Casey LAST WEEK!
    Four women of color voted off in row. Bad job America.
    Thank goodness I don’t have to read all the hatred for poor Thia any longer. She only sang 10X better than most of the contestants that appeared on Idol over the years–like Kristy Lee Cook, Megan Joy, Sanjaya, Andrew Garcia, Tim, Kelli Pickler, several of the men last year, Halley S., Jasmine Trias, etc. I wish her luck because she has a lovely voice that in a few years will blossom. Maybe she’ll get a job on Glee.

    Hope to see Haley, Jacob and Stefano leave next.

  • Lisa

    I agree alison8701. I think she is a bit smitten with him is all. I know her age. I thought at first she might be crying over Thia until they panned to her and Paul in that tight hug lol

  • Kirsten

    So can we finally say the idol audience is biased against women? Any doubters still left out there?

    The idol audience booted one of the most popular guys last week for having two weeks of suck-i-tude. It’s not our fault the judges saved him.

    That set up the situation perfectly for mad, panic voting for all the strong fan bases (nobody is safe because front-runner Casey got sent home and now we are booting two people). Thia never solidifed a fan-base and Naima shared a significant portion of hers with Casey (and Idol has been sending “VOTE FOR CASEY” letters to the viewers all week).

    I’ll agree there is a slight bias towards guys (though they are helped this year by each having their own niche while many of the girls shared a niche), but blame the producers/judges for this week’s results and four girls in a row getting the boot (and they should have picked somebody other than “Cannon Fodder” Ashton with their other wildcard).

  • tinawina

    Honestly I was ready for Thia to go. Naima is uneven but Paul hasn’t been good for weeks. I mean, this week was the first week he was even decent to me! I don’t understand how it even took this long for him to hit the bottom… he was not heavily pimped in Hollywood. Unless VFTW is truly on it this year. Heh.

  • gangreen29

    This year is like WWF and Jerry Springer rolled into one. The talent this year is terrible. There is not one REALLY good singer in the entire group. At least S9 can now happily not be the worst year….and I bet Simon is LHAO!

    Nope, sorry, I know season 9 fans want to try and make it seem like this season is worse but it just isn’t true. Season 9 is the worst. No one will ever sell as poorly as Lee and Crystal again. The tour will never sell as poorly as season 9 did again. 55 million votes were cast last night which was a record for this point in the competition. They never announced the votes each week last year because they were so embarrassingly low.

  • Trina

    Stefano did not have ONE bad performance. He’s had 2 bad weeks in a row and he’s just inconsistent. I find him more tolerable than Paul and Casey though.BTW I’m so happy they didn’t make James apologize for that stupid Pepsi shit. Show TPTB realize he did nothing wrong.

    ETA: I’ll bet anything this worst ever seasons tour outsells last years..that shouldn’t be too hard after seeing what it grossed.

  • OnePlusSix

    Thia will be OK. David Foster has shown an interest in her.

    That will definitely be in her best interest…he’s taken many a success under his wing – Josh Groban, Michael Buble, etc.

  • sunchick

    Do you guys think that now that the girls are leaving one by one, Pia will be getting more of the votes?

    That’s been my working swing vote theory for a Pia win. If not Pia then Lauren or maybe even Haley, but the last chick standing has this in the bag unless Scotty has a massive fanbase that can’t be overcome. I’m not getting my panties in a bunch over the girls leaving because it’s the best way to ensure a girl wins. I’m just sad that it’s Naima, who was the closest thing I had to a horse in the race. And also, Thia been consistently boring, and Naima unfortunately had the worst review from the judges.

    Naima shared a significant portion of hers with Casey

    That may be true. They were definitely the two biggest risk takers.

  • tinawina

    At least S9 can now happily not be the worst year

    Child please. That ship has sailed. It sucked, and I love me some Crystal. LOL

    I’m only kinda sorta kidding.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    (and Idol has been sending “VOTE FOR CASEY” letters to the viewers all week).

    Plus telling him on air tonight that he’d be “proud of the number of votes that he got”. What’s up with all of the Casey coddling?

  • claudette

    I’d add Casey to who I’d sign, especially after all this publicity. He’s going to win by a land slide. Who wouldn’t want to see him win???

    Pia will do great. But I’m super impressed with Scotty and Lauren. Carrie and Randy at 16 and 17 I don’t think were better than that. I mean Carrie improved tremendously in 6 months after Idol. Lauren needs confidence to she her voice like she did with Scotty. she’s just too nervous.

    It’s looking pretty clear to me that Pia, Casey, Scotty and Lauren should be signed and can be groomed to be successful. (although I think Lauren will go soon as people don’t understand her very young, nervous 16 yr old quick snapshots)

  • gabriel oak

    Since I voted for Thia and Paul last night, my votes will all be going to Paul until he is voted off and then no one. I think some of the others are talented but I don’t care if they win. I never thought Thia would win I just liked her voice.

    But as fuzzywuzzy says, David Foster likes Thia. There are so few Asian singers in this country so I hope she gets some more experience and continues to sing.

  • JudyL

    I may be a complete idiot but I don’t think Idol voters base their votes on race or sex. Neither factor enters into whether or not I like a contestant. But I do think there are things other than the voice that influence who viewers like, such as performing skills, likability, personality, looks or simply a preference for a certain genre of music. That’s what happens when the public gets to vote. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that, even when my favorite doesn’t win.

    I liked the show tonight…..enjoyed the contestants singing together much more than I enjoyed Fantasia or Jamie and his cast of hundreds spectacular.

  • LaRue

    I agree with what you’re saying, jrain. But it looks bad to have four women of color drop off in succession. Yes, Casey was voted out, but he was saved. And even though TPTB were going to use the save anyway, (so they claim) to have a white guy getting a second chance over four minority women? That’s going to raise a stink.

    If a girl or Jacob goes home next week–and that’s totally possible–the wheels will fall off the show. Everyone will say that a girl or anyone of color has zero chance of winning. And a lot of Idol’s good will goes down the drain.

  • MaryS-NJ

    Naima getting voted out is the one that makes me sad because she brought a current, interesting, and inventive flavor to the show.

    I’m sad too. I didn’t love her execution of last night’s number but I liked her fearlessness in trying something different each week. She was interesting.

    Thia needed a couple more years and was too green for this competition.

    So much bland left. Obviously I’m in the minority though, if they got 55M votes yesterday.

    I hope Paul’s voice holds out…

  • gangreen29

    I’ll agree there is a slight bias towards guys

    I don’t care if there is a slight bias or a huge bias..there is a bias and it is gross.

  • IdolThoughts

    I don’t get why people are making a stink about James mentioning Pepsi is obvious reference to Michael Jackson’s hair/scalp burning incident. If anything…it is a negative reference to Pepsi and not an endorsement.

  • tinawina

    If a girl or Jacob goes home next week–and that’s totally possible–the wheels will fall off the show. Everyone will say that a girl or anyone of color has zero chance of winning. And a lot of Idol’s good will goes down the drain.

    I just said the same thing. That has the potential to really hurt this season. I guess it depends on how the press would react?

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  • HermeticallySealed

    I can’t say that any of the guys don’t deserve a spot more than Thia or Naima…except for Stefano. He is like Tim Urban in that he just doesn’t belong there, but is getting by on being a cute boy.

    Yep.

    0ne bad performance from last week make everyone hate him that much? Other contestants, I won’t say who, also have had bad performance, but they got free pass? Some never hit the bottom 3.

    He’s had more than one bad /lackluster performance, so i think it’s pretty much deserved, honestly.

  • gabriel oak

    I can’t wait until Casey is voted off too.

  • kmd

    I think that it is Casey, Scotty, Pia, and Lauren that have the best chances of winning and being signed. James might get signed too.

  • jrain

    @LaRue I understand, but it stinks just to have a person of color just for the sake of it as well. Trying to be as unbiased as possible i think the voters overall got it right so far including sending casey home. There is a big contingent of people who are not contenders and the guys as a group have been more diverse and interesting overall. Stefano/Jacob/Paul will be going any week.

  • jericho

    Fanty goes totally old school.

    If old school involved shiny red, fugly cows. She sucks.

  • http://mattgiraudfans.net 3DoorsDownFan

    And even though TPTB were going to use the save anyway, (so they claim) to have a white guy getting a second chance over four minority women? That’s going to raise a stink.

    One of those minority woman had already been saved. They choose 2 African American woman over the more talented white woman Kendra so I don’t know why this should raise a stink?

  • cookcricket

    Yay Kris Allen!!! Thanks for pointing him out Ryan! We clapped here at home. :D

    Bittersweet results for me. Happy for Paul and sad for Naima.

    I agree with what you’re saying, jrain. But it looks bad to have four women of color drop off in succession. Yes, Casey was voted out, but he was saved. And even though TPTB were going to use the save anyway, (so they claim) to have a white guy getting a second chance over four minority women? That’s going to raise a stink.

    I hope not. Season 8, 1/4(?) black saved, , season 9 black saved, season 10 white saved. It all evens out, imo. But ultimately to me it’s about the singing, so this doesn’t even really matter.

  • alison8701

    There are always going to be biases though. If it was just a straight up technical singing competition, Pia would have been crowned the winner ages ago, and the show would be over. But it’s not just about that. Right or wrong, people consider extra things, and since more females watch/vote than males, it’s going to be skewed. It’s not always the case that females hate other females, but occasionally, they find a boy attractive and vote based on that.

    Fact of the matter is, Naima and Thia had some very real flaws. As do Paul and Stefano, but I don’t think they’re as blatant. Thia is one of the most boring singers on the show, and Naima is consistently off-key. Jacob is as well, but he has at least had several stellar moments to compensate.

    Pia and Lauren are two of the better singers in the competition and have not been in the bottom two. I think that counts for something.

  • Trina

    I don’t think Casey is going to win much less win in a landslide. Once the fodder is all gone and the impact of the save wears off it will come down to Scotty and either Lauren or Pia. They’re pimping the hell out of him now because the save made good TV and they want to show he was worth saving.

  • tomr

    Fantasia tried to look good but she needs lessons from Jennifer Hudson and the “new” Jordan Sparks ! Jamie & others were terrible! Let Kris sing!

  • mozart4898

    Nope, sorry, I know season 9 fans want to try and make it seem like this season is worse but it just isn’t true. Season 9 is the worst. No one will ever sell as poorly as Lee and Crystal again. The tour will never sell as poorly as season 9 did again. 55 million votes were cast last night which was a record for this point in the competition. They never announced the votes each week last year because they were so embarrassingly low

    Season isn’t even half over yet, so there’s no way to know this season will be that far above last if it actually ends up above it at all. Plus, with online voting this year, who knows exactly how that’s affected vote totals. Yes, this season is certainly different but declaring it obviously better than last season (when one of the top 3 from last season hasn’t even released his album yet) seems a bit premature. For that matter, Crystal may or may not get a performance on AI this season and who knows what that may do for her – it all depends on what the song is and the response to it. Crystal or Casey could still have a big radio hit…even Lee could although it seems unlikely.

    Not to mention, better/worse can’t be quantified by tour sales or album sales. It’s all in what people like or don’t like. Top 11 last year was when Crystal performed Me and Bobby McGee – I listened to that performance again and IMO (of course) it was better than anything we heard last night. Not to mention style wise, I preferred the sorts of artists last year over this year – and Thia leaving was totally unjustified IMO as she was a much better singer than several still on the show now (Paul, Haley, Stefano). Others would surely disagree, and as we all know, that’s just the way it is – no two people have the same exact opinions. This season is different, like I said…but far too early to really say it’s certainly better.

  • IdolThoughts

    Regarding the alleged bias towards guys…I don’t think it’s as sinister as it’s being portrayed. I think the boys all have really specific genres of music. We know what kind of artists they will be and what kind of music they’ll put out. What about Haley? What about Pia? Thia? I would say that Naima is the only one that I felt had a specific niche. But even then…is she reggae or is she pop? There is a disconnect between the girls and the audience. Aside from musical styles…what do we know about the girls? Pia may have a powerhouse voice, but unlike Kelly Clarkson…she hasn’t given us much by way of personality. The guys in this bunch have personality to spare. It’s just the way it is I guess.

  • jammasta

    Well, I just have to say that there’s a reason girls are dropping like flies. Neither of them save Naima are anything special (although I do find myself taking a shine to Lauren now).

    Pia has pipes and is pretty, but that’s it (and I’m surely not voting with my masculinity, otherwise she would still be getting my votes because she is very attractive). She seems like the second coming of Whitney and Celine in the wrong time. Thia, same thing, except more robotic. Lauren isn’t all that unique either, though she does have a twang that makes her more interesting than either of the above. The past two who got eliminated, Ashthon and Karen, also did not stand out. Haley does the sex-rodent thing a little too much.

    Pia seems like my “frenemy”. She really is a great singer, but she just doesn’t interest me anymore, and the thought of her winning over James or Scott makes me unhappy. Too many roboballads. At least Scott can stay interesting without changing it up much.

    Sigh. With my luck, she’ll win over someone more interesting and I’ll be pissed and have to endure 5 uninteresting songs over tour. I don’t think her changing it up at this point would be relevant to my interests.

  • gabriel oak

    Thia would have been better off trying out for the Voice, a show in which she could have been helped to perform. Because it was not her voice that was a problem. I wish she had done Out Here on My Own as a studio recording because she did a fine version of that.

    Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?

  • Kirsten

    I don’t care if there is a slight bias or a huge bias..there is a bias and it is gross.

    Why is it gross? Some people prefer tenors. I admit I prefer mezzo-sopranos to sopranos.

    It probably doesn’t help that the producers pick more male musical themes (e.g Elton John and next week is rock when there have been way more male rock musicians than female ones) than female ones.

    And then, there are the fans who are voting for the “cute” guy. But Justin Bieber shows that happens in real life too. Of course, Miley is big too, so it’s not only cute guys who can get a pass.

  • tinawina

    Fact of the matter is, Naima and Thia had some very real flaws. As do Paul and Stefano, but I don’t think they’re as blatant.

    Dude. Paul doesn’t actually sing. LOL. His flaws are pretty blatant. People just like him so much they insist on giving him a pass.

    I will give you this though.. Stefano’s best performances were the best out of this group, I’d say.

  • TheOther

    But it looks bad to have four women of color drop off in succession.

    But by the same token, it would have even been worst to keep Ashton, Karen, Naima, Thia because they were women and of color. It was their time to leave. They all gave medicore performances the week of their eliminations.

    And what really matters in the long run is who makes it to the Top 3, and who gets the big record deals.

  • NOLA

    Fabulous duet by Scotty and Lauren. Love these two!

  • progression

    Stefano should have gone home instead of Naima, IMO. He’s had two dreadful weeks in a row. Naima was uneven but she was fun and interesting. Stefano is headed for the nearest airport Holiday Inn lounge.

    I’m not sure why people are thinking Jacob will go home next week – he’s never hit the seal and he has the R&B box all to himself. I’d bet he goes top 6 at least.

    Maybe one’s impression of Fantasia depends on whether they watched S3 or not – I didn’t and I just don’t get her. At all.

    ETA:

    Of course, Miley is big too, so it’s not only cute guys who can get a pass

    Katy Perry and Britney are totally making it on talent too, lol.

  • LaRue

    I just said the same thing. That has the potential to really hurt this season. I guess it depends on how the press would react?

    Really? That means you and I are twinsies, yay! :-)

  • sma11ie

    (and they should have picked somebody other than “Cannon Fodder” Ashton with their other wildcard).

    Yeah, I’m still not over the picking Ashton over Kendra, wtf!I still think/hope a girl will win. Stefano won’t win. Casey won’t win. Paul won’t win. We’re left with James, Jacob, Scotty. I can’t see Jacob winning- his histrionics are polarizing. I’ve been enjoying James and really like him but I hope he doesn’t win- he’s been doing well, but I don’t think he is strong enough a singer- his performances have been fun but not winner-good, IMO. That leaves Scotty. He’s the most likely contender, but his dropped phrasing and same-sameness will get old eventually, no?

    It may be early, but we’ve seen way more weakness in all the guys than Pia or Lauren. I honestly don’t think the guys are strong enough to beat Pia or Lauren, provided these two ladies step it up and mix it up. I’d be thrilled with a Pia/Lauren finale. Both are interesting singers, IMO.

  • Nedsdag

    Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?

    I wouldn’t watch them perform at an amusement park let alone buy an album of theirs. Hell, I wouldn’t even illegally download any of their songs.

  • Lisa

    IdolThoughts I don’t get why people are making a stink about James mentioning Pepsi is obvious reference to Michael Jackson’s hair/scalp burning incident. If anything…it is a negative reference to Pepsi and not an endorsement.

    Michael’s family was horrified by the comment. I saw it all over my twitter timeline today. There was also a massive push by his fans to troll Jame’s twitter. I feel sorry for James really.

  • JudyL

    With my luck, she’ll win over someone more interesting and I’ll be pissed and have to endure 5 uninteresting songs over tour.

    Yikes! This is a great point. I’ve been thinking the tour will do well this season but Pia winning would definitely change my mind. The tour needs an interesting winner to close with and Pia just isn’t.

  • alison8701

    Dude. Paul doesn’t actually sing. LOL. His flaws are pretty blatant. People just like him so much they insist on giving him a pass.

    Dude. This proves my point. It aint just about singing. He wouldn’t even be in the top 12 if it was.

    People like him. That’s important. Why would people willingly vote for someone to advance in a competition where they would get a record deal if they didn’t like them?

    The audience votes. The audience is the consumer. What we like is most important thing. Sometimes we happen to like the very best singer, sometimes we like the mellow dude with the raspy voice.

  • gangreen29

    It still isn’t some travesty yet, but if Jacob and Haley are the next two to go then I am calling some extreme bullshit.

    Why is it gross? Some people prefer tenors.

    If it was simply about voice preference you would have a point but I don’t think it is. It isn’t just about being cute either. It is about how society just simply values males over females but I think that discussion is probably beyond the scope of this blog.

  • ReginaFilange

    You’ll be missed, Naima. :(

  • phil25

    progression says:
    03/31/2011 at 9:47 pm

    Maybe one’s impression of Fantasia depends on whether they watched S3 or not – I didn’t and I just don’t get her. At all.

    I think that must be it. I love Fantasia, but I watched her season. I thought her performance was great tonight. She commands the stage like a star.

  • JGLucky

    Every year they claim it to be a girl year. Every year at this time, the girls drop like flies. Let’s just call a spade a spade. Men are getting voted for on looks.

  • mozart4898

    I honestly don’t think the guys are strong enough to beat Pia or Lauren, provided these two ladies step it up and mix it up.

    After this, I won’t refer to S9 again in this thread…but, yeah, go ahead and substitute the names “Crystal” and “Siobhan” in that statement, read it again…and ruminate on that a while.

  • sweetmm

    Gonna miss Naima, she add colours to the show. Wish either Stefano/Paul had went instead. Thia will not be missed though. I love the Scotty/Lauren duet; they may be young but they manage to pull out that song. I prefer Lauren’s voice over Carrie anyday.

  • Inconnu

    Naima just twitted this:
    I’m SUUUUUUPER Excited about making it to the top 11 and going on TOUR! Check out the tour page at… http://fb.me/GZvK2viF

    I thought she took it well tonight. And she must be glad to go back to her kids. That was the hardest thing for her.

  • Jx223

    But, playing devil’s advocate, they did cast a bunch of pageant bots this year. Like last year with the singer/songwriter type girls

    A lot of this is TPTB’s doing. They keep putting through a lot of boring/mediocre/the
    same type of girls that a lot of the viewers ends up not really caring a lot about. They did this during season 8, they did this season 9, they did it again this season. Season 8 they had the wildcard and IMO could have/should have put through girls like Jesse Langseth, Mishavonna, and Felicia Barton.But they didn’t and put through Megan, Jasmine instead, girls that didn’t go very far, didn’t really have a chance of winning.This year they put through Ashton who didn’t have a shot and I think they knew that.

    And they had the wildcard option again this year and they could have/IMO should have put through people like Rachel Zevita and Kendra. I think that Rachel was interesting and could have given some interesting/ good performances.Maybe some “watercooler” performances, but she didn’t even get a chance to sing again for a WC spot.

    Once again the judges blew the wildcard opportunity when they were picking the girls. And this year they could have put through mostly girls, since I think that America got it right with the boys they voted through.But TPTB keep putting through girls that a lot of the viewers aren’t very interested/connect to and the girls go quickly. They have been doing this for 3 seasons now.

    I think that Lauren might end up being the last girl standing. I could see the audience getting rid of Pia before Lauren even though she’s a decent vocalist.Because Pia is boring and I could see a lot of viewers getting tired of her performances. I wish she would land in the bottom three soon, so she would get a wake up call, just like Casey and hopefully Paul did tonight.

  • OldHag

    Stefano should have gone home instead of Naima, IMO. He’s had two dreadful weeks in a row. Naima was uneven but she was fun and interesting.

    One person’s fun and interesting is another person’s weird to the point of distraction – YMMV, and all.

    Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?

    My husband, who is normally not an Idol fan, plans on buying Scotty’s album. Last singer he felt that way about was Carrie. It all depends on your taste.

  • jammasta

    Yeesh, I was kinda harsh on Pia there. Point made but a little too harshly. I don’t hate her that much….. Just worried she’ll survive past James and Scott, my two horses in the race.

    Kinda like Lee did by surviving past Crystal and Siobhan. I can’t take it happening again.

  • gangreen29

    After this, I won’t refer to S9 again in this thread…but, yeah, go ahead and substitute the names “Crystal” and “Siobhan” in that statement, read it again…and ruminate on that a while.

    And everyone said that Crystal and Siobhan just weren’t the right “type” of woman to win this show. Well, if it happens that Pia and Lauren don’t win, is it because they are also the wrong “type” of woman? What is the right “type” of woman? Would Carrie or Kelly be the right “type” if they were competing now?

  • IdolThoughts

    Michael’s family was horrified by the comment. I saw it all over my twitter timeline today. There was also a massive push by his fans to troll Jame’s twitter. I feel sorry for James really.

    I hate to say it but Michael’s family seems to take any opportunity to speak publicly. I think James’ comment was very benign and completely in context. I think Michael would not have taken any offense. It was a totally legitimate concern and an easily identifiable pop culture reference.

  • tinawina

    Dude. This proves my point. It aint just about singing. He wouldn’t even be in the top 12 if it was.

    People like him. That’s important. Why would people willingly vote for someone to advance in a competition where they would get a record deal if they didn’t like them?

    The audience votes. The audience is the consumer. What we like is most important thing. Sometimes we happen to like the very best singer, sometimes we like the mellow dude with the raspy voice.

    The problem here is the perception of what people tend to “like” the most on this show somehow manages to be consistently male and white. Its not that people just happen to like someone, its just that one more week of this will invite the assumption that people really only “like” one thing. Press like that could be bad for the show. But we’ll see.

  • ri

    trying not to act like a big baby here but…why do they point out Kris Allen in the audience this week and not Casey James in the audience last week? i love Kris and of course he should be acknowledged but would it have killed Ryan to show a similar courtesy to Casey? are they always going to stick it Casey like this? he’s such a good guy and he put up with so much bullshit last season. just treat him decently for God’s sakes. well he’ll show them. he’ll show ALL of them…….

  • jericho

    Maybe one’s impression of Fantasia depends on whether they watched S3 or not – I didn’t and I just don’t get her. At all.

    I think that must be it. I love Fantasia, but I watched her season. I thought her performance was great tonight. She commands the stage like a star.

    I watched her season and I still can’t believe she won. IMO she’s the worst winner evah.

  • sartana60

    The musical performances before the results were a pleasant surprise.

    But it’s still the same ol’ Cute Boy Idol. Four girls gone and not a single guy. Worse than in season eight and nine … though not by much.

    Recap: Whose stock is rising and whose is falling.

  • Kirsten

    It is about how society just simply values males over females

    I totally agree with how society values males over females. That is gross.

  • jumpstart

    I’m not sure why people are thinking Jacob will go home next week – he’s never hit the seal and he has the R&B box all to himself.

    Wishful thinking on my part. If he would just quit oversinging, I might actually enjoy his performances. As it is … nada.

  • tomr

    Have followed and voted for all 10 seasons. I have voted for males and females. (Kelly, Clay, Latoya, George, Anthony, Kellie, Taylor, Jordan, David A., Kris, Aaron, Lee) and don’t vote because of color. It’s a combination of talent and likeability that determines what I do. I don’t feel that the Idol audience discriminates!

  • OldHag

    The audience votes. The audience is the consumer.

    And that is the bottom line. Period.

  • alison8701

    The problem here is the perception of what people tend to “like” the most on this show somehow manages to be consistently male and white. Its not that people just happen to like someone, its just that one more week of this will invite the assumption that people really only “like” one thing. Press like that could be bad for the show. But we’ll see.

    I mean the majority of america’s population is white, and most of the voters are girls. I think it’s more of a reflection on america itself, not just the show.

  • sr4mjc

    i agree with the whole post Jx223

  • sweetmm

    By the way did they say who has the lowest votes? Naima could really open a concert in a high gear, Thia needs to be given a new song if she’s opening.

  • sma11ie

    After this, I won’t refer to S9 again in this thread…but, yeah, go ahead and substitute the names “Crystal” and “Siobhan” in that statement, read it again…and ruminate on that a while.

    Actually Crystal and Siobhan were both way more polarizing than Lauren or Pia. And I liked her, but Siobhan wasn’t as good as Lauren or Pia have been, IMO.

  • alison8701

    I totally agree with how society values males over females. That is gross.

    But it’s mostly females voting. So basically, females suck. That’s probably why we don’t vote for them! :P

  • mozart4898

    And everyone said that Crystal and Siobhan just weren’t the right “type” of woman to win this show. Well, if it happens that Pia and Lauren don’t win, is it because they are also the wrong “type” of woman? What is the right “type” of woman? Would Carrie or Kelly be the right “type” if they were competing now?

    Carrie and Kelly? I don’t know. Honestly, I don’t know if either of them could win today…and we have no way to know for sure either. And I’m not trying to be smart or anything, I honestly don’t know if either one of them would win today. Musical taste, as well as society, has changed in the last 5-10 years.

  • saga

    I watched her season and I still can’t believe she won. IMO she’s the worst winner evah.

    Maybe this helps explain why she won…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSQt_X2AUak

  • MrDuffin

    Nope, sorry, I know season 9 fans want to try and make it seem like this season is worse but it just isn’t true. Season 9 is the worst.

    I feel better now……mom! Are you kin to Nigel?

  • tinawina

    I mean the majority of america’s population is white, and most of the voters are girls. I think it’s more of a reflection on america itself, not just the show.

    Sure. But that’s not good for a show that is supposed to be about everyone having a fair shot, and a show that used to have a history of diverse winners. If AI gets a rep and it sticks, people of color and women will stop trying out. There is a lot of competition breathing down their necks and this is a pivotal year. At a time when Idol is trying to regain some relevancy, when the pop charts are dominated by women and people of color, this will not be a good reputation to have. So I hope it doesn’t play out that way.

  • Lisa

    IdolThoughts, I agree with you 100%. I won’t even get into the circus I think surrounds that family. I only felt very sorry for James today because of the things I read on my timeline. Some were fairly vicious.

  • progression

    Four girls gone and not a single guy

    If the judges save hadn’t been used we would have 5 guys and 4 women at this point – I don’t see how that shows some huge bias again the female contestants by “America”.

  • tierbee

    It sucks to lose two girls at once but… it’s hard for me to get super worked up over people who have zero chance of winning. Though Stefano or Paul could have gone instead/with either of those two and that would’ve been ok too. My sister and I were talking about this last night and dividing them up into “tiers” where we thought they’d go out (barring a mindblowingly good or bad performance) and we had said Thia/Naima/Stefano ~~ Jacob/Hayley/Paul ~~ James/Casey ~~ Pia/Lauren/Scotty. We shall see :)

    I hate, hate losing Naima but I’m absolutely not surprised. She’s clearly been hanging on by a thread the whole season since she was a wild card to start with and has been at the bottom before. To stay in she really needed to have a WOW performance and it just wasn’t it. I love her and I wasn’t feeling the performance. I love how ballsy she is, but it just fell really flat. And Thia, while absolutely beautiful and with a lovely voice, was just deathly boring. Again, love her… but she left me really cold. I think Stefano should go next, or Paul, but we’ll see how they perform next week. Other than that top little trio of Lauren/Pia/Scotty, I think everyone is vulnerable with an off week.

    I had questioned before if Naima was too “ethnic” for people – and judging by the reactions towards her of a whole lot of my Facebook friends/family… I think so. I don’t even know if it’s so much that she’s non-white but that she’s “weird” (not MY word, but I’ve seen it pop up again and again in what people post on Facebook). So the reggae thing probably just made it worse, although I do think she was very true to herself. She should be fun on tour.

    I do think it would be silly to discount Stefano having a “cute boy” advantage if he performs well. Of course he does. But it wasn’t enough to keep him out of the bottom last week, so if he continues to be just meh… he’s not long for the Idol world. I thought he would be at the bottom, but then again I shouldn’t have discounted the “Oh, shit, he’s in the bottom 2″ panic that last week probably caused.

  • tierbee

    At a time when Idol is trying to regain some relevancy, when the pop charts are dominated by women and people of color, this will not be a good reputation to have. So I hope it doesn’t play out that way.

    But here’s what I keep wondering – WHY couldn’t they find one single R&B guy who had a shot at going far in the competition? Wouldn’t a cute R&B boy with maybe some dance moves have a good shot? Or have they so completely lost that type of singer that they don’t even try out anymore? I would have been voting my fingers off for a talented R&B-singing boy, lol.

  • rose5

    “Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?”

    The highlight of tonights elimination for me was the duet of Scotty and Alaina. OMG! I have smile on my face all throughout their performance. I thought their voice blended so perfectly , and they look so cute together. Nice looking couple, sort of like Faith Hill and Tim McGraw. I can’t get those two kids out of my mind.

    With that note, of course I definitely will be buying their album.

  • tierbee

    “Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?”

    Heh, well. I’m not going to answer that until they… have an album :) If they put out kick ass albums, sure…

  • webster

    Well, with the first four eliminations, it’s certainly getting whiter, guyer, and guitarier. Show’s demographic is a part of it, but it’s also the casting. IMO, there are women that women would vote for, but that’s not who they’re putting through. They got it close with Crystal. But the last 3 are strong, and, I think will last awhile. Pia for her pipes, Lauren for musicality and showmanship, and Haley for her quirk.

    Maybe one’s impression of Fantasia depends on whether they watched S3 or not – I didn’t and I just don’t get her. At all.

    That’s the first season I watched. I heard a couple of people, then I heard her (must have been the semis, didn’t watch the earlier stuff). As soon as she opened her mouth, I thought: that’s the only one who actually sounds like a pro. Everyone else sounded like good voice (or not) but didn’t know what to do with it. She was head and shoulders a better performer, at least in the early rounds. Some others, like Jennifer, grew. But Jennifer so frequently looked scared awkward – not ready for primetime. Boy, has she blossomed, and I couldn’t be happier for her.

    That said, I thought she sucked tonight, but mostly because I didn’t like the song.

  • tinawina

    But here’s what I keep wondering – WHY couldn’t they find one single R&B guy who had a shot at going far in the competition? Wouldn’t a cute R&B boy with maybe some dance moves have a good shot? Or have they so completely lost that type of singer that they don’t even try out anymore? I would have been voting my fingers off for a talented R&B-singing boy, lol.

    That is the million dollar question. I have no idea why they haven’t done that. Its been years now since they even tried.

  • gangreen29

    I really liked the performances tonight and I think they are a good idea. The more singing in my opinion the better.

  • primeminister

    OMG YES, 1st in rickey’s pool and tied for 8th in mj’s pool!! =)

    And I was glad to see Paul safe after I decided to pick up the phone for him last night… However, I’ll just say, if he sucks next week, it’s time for him to go.

  • OldHag

    If Casey had gone when he was supposed to then we wouldn’t have lost only girls… I am glad the save is done and over with at any rate.

  • jammasta

    But it wasn’t enough to keep him out of the bottom last week, so if he continues to be just meh… he’s not long for the Idol world.

    Tim Urban was so much worse than just “meh” and was in the bottom 3 a lot before he finally got sent home.

    However, Stefano is kinda mid-pack. Which, oddly, works against him, IMO. Meh from him is not as expected and may hurt him more than it did Tim.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    f*ck i missed it and i forgot the pool…oh well…im ok with who went home but i would trade naima for jaboc but whtevr! tonight sounds interesting i wish i had seen it! im not as invested this season :(

  • Grammie Kari

    I am so happy for Stefano and his fans! It was so important that he not land in the bottom three. There are over 300 posts here, so I will just say I will absolutely love the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame theme. Some of you may know why!! YAY!

    Great show again tonight!

  • alison8701

    Yeah it’s not that we’re racist and just like cute white boys– we like cute boys. They just happen to be white. have we had a handsome black man in the top 12?

    African American’s only make up 13% of the population. And if my math is correct, which it probably is not, then if there was a random sampling of people, the top 13 should have 1.69 black person. And let’s say 25% of the population is cute boys, further divide.. OK JK.

  • jrain

    tinawina says:
    03/31/2011 at 10:17 pm
    But here’s what I keep wondering – WHY couldn’t they find one single R&B guy who had a shot at going far in the competition? Wouldn’t a cute R&B boy with maybe some dance moves have a good shot? Or have they so completely lost that type of singer that they don’t even try out anymore? I would have been voting my fingers off for a talented R&B-singing boy, lol.

    That is the million dollar question. I have no idea why they haven’t done that. Its been years now since they even tried.

    They did….Jordan, remember how they screwed him with OMG. My guess is they have frontrunner’s in genres. They wanted Jacob and felt that Jordan because he’s hotter and probably has dance moves would do better. Same with John Wayne, more women would vote for him vs Scotty.

  • MayMirabella

    At a time when Idol is trying to regain some relevancy, when the pop charts are dominated by women and people of color, this will not be a good reputation to have. So I hope it doesn’t play out that way.

    That is a good point. Those are the singers topping the charts now and yet this show often does not reflect the kind of music or seeing the kind of artist that we often see in current music videos or hear on the radio. So you have a very good point.

    I was sad to see 2 girls and the first 4 eliminated all girls due to the Casey save last week. That means 3 girls and 6 guys left and that makes performance night less diverse…more of a sausage fest ..but this matches the past few seasons..it seems to be a pattern.

  • Elliegrll

    I think PIa is the frontrunner right now, and the buzz surrounding her is a lot stronger than what Crystal had to deal with last year.

    I agree that the show has only survived for ten years, because people believe that anyone can win. The two biggest reasons for the show appealing to younger viewers and a diverse audience is Fantasia and Ruben winning. That being said, none of the women who have left so far deserved to outlast any of the guys. As much as I wanted to see Paul leave tonight, he has been more consistent than Naima and Thia combined, and has had stronger performances that allowed him to show people who he is.

    If Pia leaves before any of the guys, then we will see that there is a real problem, but it’s hard to get upset about Naima, Ashthon, Karen or Thia leaving.

  • jrain

    Just FYI. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame theme does not necessarily mean rock week. It’s a wide field which includes the likes of Madonna. There has been a lot of controversy over the years on nominations to the rock hall.

  • webster

    Casey, James and Paul are on guitar

    Just to pick a nit, and I’ll have to wait for the video to be sure, but I’m pretty sure Casey was on bass. It would make sense, both from a band standpoint and from what we know about Casey’s proclivities.

  • jericho

    Sure. But that’s not good for a show that is supposed to be about everyone having a fair shot, and a show that used to have a history of diverse winners. If AI gets a rep and it sticks, people of color and women will stop trying out. There is a lot of competition breathing down their necks and this is a pivotal year. At a time when Idol is trying to regain some relevancy, when the pop charts are dominated by women and people of color, this will not be a good reputation to have. So I hope it doesn’t play out that way.

    I think much of the problem, again, is the casting of the show. The guys they got sorta right. Not completely though. Out of the thousands of people who auditioned there wasn’t one current R&B singer? I just find that hard to believe. It begs the question, how or who is casting this show? In regard to the women…well I think they did a real piss poor job of casting them. Why not Lakisha instead of …just about anyone? How about the other Lauren? She was awesome. To me the biggest problem I see is that they cast “attractive” people over the unconventional beauties. Whoever cast this show made some very odd choices.

  • OldHag

    Same with John Wayne, more women would vote for him vs Scotty.

    Nope. Women want Scotty to be their son and young girls think he is cute. You might have had the women with John Wayne but not those girls too.

  • girlygirl

    I’m really tired of the “oh they voted for the cute boy” meme. First of all, that really suggests that these guys who are getting through every week on votes aren’t talented. Which really sort of disrespects the guys — no one would have made it this far into the show if they weren’t seriously talented. Secondly, it suggests that the people who vote are really really shallow, preferring looks over talent, whichis a thought that personally I disagree with. I happen to think that the majority of the people who vote on AI vote for the person they think is the most talented and/or is the person who is the type of singer/performer that voter prefers to listen to. It’s just a bonus if they think that person is attractive, as well.

    Yes, there are probably some people who vote based on looks. I happen to think those voters are in the minority.

    Casey would be gone if the judges hadn’t saved him. Stefano has been in the bottom 3 and only made the finals because of a judges’ WC. It’s not like only the females have been at the bottom of the voting this season.

    ETA – personally I don’t think any of the guys this season are particularly hot/cute.

  • jrain

    Same with John Wayne, more women would vote for him vs Scotty.

    Nope. Women want Scotty to be their son and young girls think he is cute. You might have had the women with John Wayne but not those girls too.

    The country votes would be split and could have put Scotty in danger so i don’t buy that.

  • songsungblue

    It is about how society just simply values males over females

    Hey, I couldn’t be more feminist, but I think sometimes a show….is just a show. I don’t think JHud getting voted off back in the day was racist, anymore than this is sexist. Some voices call to you more than others. I way preferred Crystal last season, I think Paul is the most interesting voice this season. I’m not a crazy fan of either – it’s just individual. I’m not sure it’s all that gender-based.

    Naima was a little edgy, and this is a very mainstream program. Which is why the vomit-inducing treacle of Scotty will probably win. It’s like any campaign – you play to your base.

  • sunchick

    Thia/Naima/Stefano ~~ Jacob/Hayley/Paul ~~ James/Casey ~~ Pia/Lauren/Scotty. We shall see

    Looks right to me. Haley is on some sort of upswing and might jump a tier and bump off Casey or James, though.

    I’m really tired of the “oh they voted for the cute boy” meme. First of all, that really suggests that these guys who are getting through every week on votes aren’t talented. Which really sort of disrespects the guys

    Preach. I actually think there’s a male winner post AI stigma, and they have to work harder than the female winners to prove they won because of talent rather than indiscriminate fangirl crushes. Anyway, for argument’s sake, let’s say a lot of American Idol voters love cute boys with minimal talent. Well, then a lot of pop radio listeners love hot chicks with minimal talent and it all evens out.

  • tierbee

    Meh from him is not as expected and may hurt him more than it did Tim.

    But Stefano hasn’t done the SLIDE!

    They did….Jordan, remember how they screwed him with OMG. My guess is they have frontrunner’s in genres. They wanted Jacob and felt that Jordan because he’s hotter and probably has dance moves would do better. Same with John Wayne, more women would vote for him vs Scotty.

    I don’t think Jordan was it – he wasn’t quite what I was thinking of. I’m thinking more Usher/Chris Brown (sans anger issues). I honestly was thinking “That’s the best R&B guy they could find?”

  • tinawina

    I think much of the problem, again, is the casting of the show.

    I think that is true. They haven’t been putting people through that have a real shot. That guy Jordan doesn’t even close to count.. he was toast to begin with and they they made him sing OMG on top of it. LOL.

    As much as I wanted to see Paul leave tonight, he has been more consistent than Naima and Thia combined, and has had stronger performances that allowed him to show people who he is.

    I don’t think that’s an absolute fact. LOL. Paul has been pretty bad IMO. But hey, different strokes and all that.

    African American’s only make up 13% of the population.

    And women make up half. But that never stopped either from making it deep in the competition and/or winning before. But if we have yet another year where we get a white/male/rock-spectrum dominance at the finals, this will get ugly in the press, I think.

  • tripp_ncwy

    KrisAllen
    It was great to see everyone at Idol and chat with the new contestants.

  • webster

    Just FYI. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame theme does not necessarily mean rock week. It’s a wide field which includes the likes of Madonna.

    You’re right that it doesn’t mean a rock theme. And there’s some potential dreck, for sure, but there’s a lot of gold in some of the not quite rock inductees: Brenda Lee, Hank Williams, Tom Waits, Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Miles Davis, Johnny Cash.

    Nobody’s going to have trouble finding something in their comfort zone. Unfortunately. “Comfort zone” is becoming a dirty word. It’s like they’re in some kind of vocal Snuggies.

  • tierbee

    Secondly, it suggests that the people who vote are really really shallow, preferring looks over talent, whichis a thought that personally I disagree with.

    Pssst, remember? We vote with our girl parts? Fling panties?

    Haley is on some sort of upswing though and might jump a tier.

    This is true. And apparently what I find really uncomfortable about her (the sex kitten growly thing) is working for her so what do I know ;)

  • girlygirl

    KrisAllen
    It was great to see everyone at Idol and chat with the new contestants.
    4 minutes ago

    AmericanIdol
    Our Season 8 winner @KrisAllen hangin’ with the idols and offering up some sound advice for the upcoming #IdolTour!!! http://t.co/G51XQ8u

    Kris is still trending both worldwide and in the US, 1 1/2 hours after the show ended. Hope TPTB see this and schedule him for a performance before the end of the season

  • Jx223

    But here’s what I keep wondering – WHY couldn’t they find one single R&B guy who had a shot at going far in the competition? Wouldn’t a cute R&B boy with maybe some dance moves have a good shot? Or have they so completely lost that type of singer that they don’t even try out anymore? I would have been voting my fingers off for a talented R&B-singing boy, lol.

    That is the million dollar question. I have no idea why they haven’t done that. Its been years now since they even tried.

    I don’t understand why they haven’t looked for an Usher/Chris Brown (minus the drama) type of contestant. I had speculated about this before and have seen other people wondering about this as well. I think that a contestant like this would be appealing to a lot of people and could sell very well. That type of R&B sells very well. But Idol for some reason never really goes after this type of singer and I don’t know why. They go after the old skool R&B singer like Ruben/Jacob, but the a not more current sounding R&B singer. They should try and find a cute talented R&B boy, I would vote for someone like that.

    Out of the thousands of people who auditioned there wasn’t one current R&B singer?

    They aren’t even finding talented female R&B singers anymore, current or more old skool. In the past they found Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson, Latoya London, Tamrya, Melinda, Lakisha. And in the past few seasons we’ve been getting people like Lil, and Ashton who can’t really sing that well, and didn’t really have a shot of doing well.

    I say the best female R&B singer we had in the past three seasons was probably Syesha, she was consistantly decent. But I don’t think that a lot of people really connected with her (which is why she kept ending up in the bottom three, even after giving decent performances). And I don’t think she would have done very well in the music business. But I think that TPTB hasn’t been doing very well with casting especially with females in the past few seasons.

  • girlygirl

    If Pia and/or Lauren get voted off before any of the guys, then this argument might hold more water. But I have a feeling those 2 are locks for the Top 4

  • flyaway

    Someone up topic posted the remaining idols in tiers. I have them in pairs.
    Country: Scotty and Lauren
    Divas: Pia and Jacob
    Cute/sexy: Stefano and Haley
    Quirky/alt: Paul and Casey
    Rocker: James has this alone.

    My thoughts: If Lauren leaves early, I expect Scotty to take the title. Pia is the most likely person to pull in Jacob’s voters so the earlier he leaves, the better she does. Paul and Casey are most assuredly sharing votes and don’t see both reaching top 5. Stefano and Haley are getting votes based more on looks than vocals and since this is gender specific, one of them leaving may not help the other. James’ competition is probably Adam – will the Glambert’s vote for him?

  • tierbee

    That guy Jordan doesn’t even close to count.. he was toast to begin with and they they made him sing OMG on top of it. LOL.

    Yeah, if that was the best they have to offer with a R&B guy… well, R&B guys haven’t a chance in hell.

    I don’t think that’s an absolute fact. LOL. Paul has been pretty bad IMO.

    But Paul is “safe” (even if quirky and different – he’s still a white dude) and Naima was “weird” and “out there.” I think for her it was less about her color and more about her whole image with the funky clothes and the African dress and the Rastafarian thing… I’m gonna miss her, though :(

  • songsungblue

    i just had to look up the Carrie Underwood duet of I Told You So. Now I am no Carrie fan, there’s a mean vibe about her, and she’s a blank. But lord love her, the girl can sing. And Randy Travis makes Scotty look laughable. I find it absolutely bizarre that anyone would think that Lauren and Scotty was within 2000 yards of this one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTwFl6OIAk

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Just to pick a nit, and I’ll have to wait for the video to be sure, but I’m pretty sure Casey was on bass.

    A bass guitar. I’ll repeat. A guitar ;).

  • girlygirl

    I actually thought the judges and producers were trying to set Stefano up for the pop/r&b guy. but his recent song choices & performances have not fit into that so well. He could still try and position himself as that guy, though

  • MrDuffin

    I believe some folks are confusing “hype” with “talent”. There is a big difference.

  • tierbee

    And in the past few seasons we’ve been getting people like Lil, and Ashton who can’t really sing that well, and didn’t really have a shot of doing well.

    I really liked Lil at first. But she seriously lost her way, doubting herself, and talking back is a no no.

    I would argue that Ashthon was very contemporary… and then blew it trying to sing diva songs that were too big for her.

    I say the best female R&B singer we had in the past three seasons was probably Syesha, she was consistantly decent.

    But she got pegged as “Broadway”… I don’t think she really ever was viewed as a R&B singer. Or maybe she was and I didn’t notice. I was admittedly sucked into Cookland and maybe didn’t pay enough attention :)

  • webster

    I think that is true. They haven’t been putting people through that have a real shot.That guy Jordan doesn’t even close to count

    I can’t remember if they did any R&B, but there were at least 2 young, cute, men of color that I thought were every bit as good as several of the guys in the top 12. I’ve blanked their names. One was a guy with short hair and glasses from, I think, the Bronx, who got cut really early. The other was that guy with long hair who was into Hawaiian music who got cut in the airplane hangar. I guess both could come back another year.

  • Eileen99

    Kris is still trending both worldwide and in the US, 1 1/2 hours after the show ended.

    An hour & a half after the east coast show ended – the west coast doesn’t even know Kris is in the audience yet as it doesn’t start here for another 15 minutes. He will probably trend for a while longer.

  • Nedsdag

    How about the other Lauren? She was awesome. To me the biggest problem I see is that they cast “attractive” people over the unconventional beauties.

    Lauren T., Robbie, and the Cuban born kid were victims of what a well known Englishman once said: “It’s not just the voice.” In a high definition television world, they weren’t aesthetically attractive enough. That’s the main reason why Ashthon, Naima, and Stefano were chosen.

  • tierbee

    I actually thought the judges and producers were trying to set Stefano up for the pop/r&b guy. but his recent song choices & performances have not fit into that so well.

    I thought so, too, even though it meant for his one performance a random “thwocka thwocka” beat with no purpose haha. I thought he was going to be presented as a Bruno Mars-ish sort of guy. Now he is King Ballad.

  • Marie Ruffin

    Yeah it’s not that we’re racist and just like cute white boys– we like cute boys. They just happen to be white. have we had a handsome black man in the top 12?

    African American’s only make up 13% of the population. And if my math is correct, which it probably is not, then if there was a random sampling of people, the top 13 should have 1.69 black person. And let’s say 25% of the population is cute boys, further divide.. OK JK.

    Well, I predict the water cooler is going to be buzzing tomorrow. I think this is a first for IDOL — all girls gone one right after another. And don’t tell me the boys are better, because they’re not. It’s just the audience makeup. Older cougar women and their teenage daughters. You know that men are not voting! But surprisingly it’s the women of Idol who are the stars — Jennifer, Fantasia, Carrie, and Kelly. Oh yeh, throw Daughtry in the mix.
    So the women who are voting are getting it wrong every single season. And who’s album is beating the pants out of the Season 9? Crystal!

    Loved Fantasia. I hope everything is going well for her. Had to listen to the song a couple of times to get the lyrics.
    Naima should have been there, she at least brought flavor to the contest. I wonder what the heck Nigel is thinking now? Is he saying, OMG, are we going to end up with another WG as winner? Nigel is plenty worried about now.

    And what if — X Factor comes out with a female winner; and a minority female winner? Won’t that put Idol on the hot seat?
    This is going to get interesting.

  • tierbee

    Lauren T., Robbie, and the Cuban born kid were victims of what a well known Englishman once said: “It’s not just the voice.”

    Who is the Cuban born kid? I can’t remember. I will agree that it hurt Lauren T. not being as “pretty” as some of the others. LOVED her. Robbie I think had all the potential to be a heartthrob to the youngsters but he kinda blew it with boring song choice. I liked that kid :)

  • savgal

    I have re-watched the Scotty/Lauren duet three times. Although I wish they’d done even more harmonizing, they were great together! The country world has deep pockets and they will come out in droves to the tour if these kids do similar stuff. I am hoping Scotty makes it pretty far this year so that he can duet with Carrie on the finale. I can dream, can’t I?

  • Swind

    I keep reading about who the right girl to win, Pia or Lauren? Are we all forgetting that there are 3 girls left, including Haley.

    In my opinion the girl (Haley) is the total package. Cute, talented, young, and quirky. Remember in Season 3 and Season 6 Fantasia and Jordin were very mid-pack at this point of their respective seasons and much “bigger” voice ladies were front-runners such as Latoya Londen, Jennifer Hudson, Melinda Doolittle, and Lakisha Jones.

    Just an observation. Do with it as you will.

  • tinawina

    I think for her it was less about her color and more about her whole image with the funky clothes and the African dress and the Rastafarian thing… I’m gonna miss her, though :(

    But the funky clothes and the African dress stuff.. that is about her color! LOL. She’s not the least bit exotic to me. When I lived in Fort Greene Bklyn I couldn’t throw a rock without hitting a Naima. And reggae is not exotic to me either. Basically, what you are saying was she wasn’t the right kind of black. She was, basically, too black for “America”, whatever that means. :D

    I don’t actually care BTW, because it is nothing new actually. This is the way of the world. I was just saying the show didn’t need this rep right now so I hoped another girl or minority didn’t go next week.

  • jammasta

    Which is why the vomit-inducing treacle of Scotty will probably win.

    A treacle is he? Well, your boy Paul is a MANUNGACHACA. I can make up words too, sister!

    Kidding. Thanks for the new vocabulary word, though, I didn’t know what it meant. A little harsh for Scott, but YMMV.

    Yes, I agree with the campaign point. I admit, I would vote for my people even if they did suck and someone did better. Of course, I’d probably change if I did lose interest (*coughPiacough*).

    And don’t tell me the boys are better, because they’re not. It’s just the audience makeup. Older cougar women and their teenage daughters. You know that men are not voting!

    Erm…. I’m a straight guy, and I think the guys are better this year AND I vote for them. I couldn’t really care less how pretty Pia is when she bores me to death.

    Sorry, I just felt like I needed to reply to this.

  • tierbee

    So the women who are voting are getting it wrong every single season. And who’s album is beating the pants out of the Season 9? Crystal!

    How do you get it “wrong” when you vote for your subjectively favorite singer on a reality TV show? I honestly believe that almost everyone who votes could care less about “Oh, gosh, I have to vote for who is going to be the biggest star!” They do NOT think of it that way. I don’t know anyone who is outside the bubble who watches this show that cares at all who will be a star or not after the show. They vote for who they like. My mom loves Stefano. My sister loves Jacob. My friend loves Lauren. They like who they like.

    And is Crystal selling so many albums that she’s “beating the pants” out of anything? I don’t follow album numbers close enough so maybe I’m wrong. And let me couch that with the fact that I love Crystal and she’s one of my favorite Idol contestants ever, lest I be accused of sticking up for the boy ’cause I like the boys no matter what ;)

  • JGLucky

    I hope X-Factor comes out with a killer female winner (or winners if a good girl group auditions) and gives me hope that maybe females can still win these shows.

    AGT has had 4 white guys win in a row too. So it’s not hard to assume Idol will this year as well.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Maybe this helps explain why she won…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSQt_X2AUak

    Sorry, still does nothing for me. I just don’t like her voice. To each their own.

  • gangreen29

    A treacle is he? Well, your boy Paul is a MANUNGACHACA. I can make up words too, sister!

    Treacle is a real word Jammasta lol!

  • tierbee

    Well, your boy Paul is a MANUNGACHACA.

    Perhaps he can embroider that on one of his jackets? Or tattoo it on his back in big letters! Woohoo!

    Basically, what you are saying was she wasn’t the right kind of black. She was, basically, to black for “America”, whatever that means.

    Well, yeah. For the non-city white people that I’m related to and on my Facebook page, she was “weird.” So although it is patently ridiculous, she was a too-ethnic black woman. I can’t help that I’m a white girl with white relatives who don’t make sense :) But I really, really doubt that they are all that unique and I really, really think that she was too “out there” for a whole lot of people.

    But the funky clothes and the African dress stuff.. that is about her color! LOL. She’s not the least bit exotic to me. When I lived in Fort Greene Bklyn I couldn’t throw a rock without hitting a Naima. And reggae is not exotic to me either.

    It’s exotic to a lot of people, though. She doesn’t look like the black people they’re familiar with. So she’s weird. I can’t tell you how many “I just don’t get her” posts I have seen.

  • Marie Ruffin

    I think much of the problem, again, is the casting of the show. The guys they got sorta right. Not completely though. Out of the thousands of people who auditioned there wasn’t one current R&B singer? I just find that hard to believe. It begs the question, how or who is casting this show?

    Somewhere in the blogosphere you know this conversation is getting heated. I have been asking this question for 3-4 seasons? Can’t they find a decent Black guy who can SING? I thought Deandre was the answer. Poor guy. At this rate, really good black singers aren’t going to try out for Idol, they’re going to the competition like X Factor or Sing-off, or places like that.
    They audition about 100,000 people. Stage 1 of the auditions they go through screeners, stage 2 the same, it’s not until stage 3 or 4 that they see the judges. So something must be happening at stage 1 & 2; right? And somehow they always end up with a Black guy who’s gay or fat.
    Do the producers know that Chris Brown, Trey Songz and Usher are the 3 top black male singers in the U.S.?
    Do they know that Beyonce is the top selling black female in the U.S.? So what is the problem with finding somebody of color.
    I was so hoping a Latina (Karen) would make it through because the music world so badly needs another Selena and Gloria Estefan. But, they can’t even find a decent Latina(o) singer!
    What’s wrong with these judges?????

  • jammasta

    Treacle is a real word Jammasta lol!

    I know, I looked it up after the post :P. Just trying to make a joke.

  • songsungblue

    jammasta – laughing – I always thought you were a woman! ;)

    When it comes right down to it, I guess I don’t care who wins. It’s entertaining to watch them picked off, and it’s not like winning rocketed Lee up the charts or anything. America, she is a fickle mistress. It wouldn’t surprise me if Haley was the breakout star of the season. Hey, everyone thought Tamyra Grey would outsell Kelly back in the day. One never knows.

  • tierbee

    I was so hoping a Latina (Karen) would make it through because the music world so badly needs another Selena and Gloria Estefan. But, they can’t even find a decent Latina(o) singer!

    That was my other question – couldn’t they have found a more exciting Latina/Latino singer? I liked Karen a lot but she was so, so boring. I mean, these people have to be out there. Why are they getting passed over?

  • tinawina

    But I really, really doubt that they are all that unique and I really, really think that she was too “out there” for a whole lot of people.

    Oh no I wasn’t doubting you at all! I know that’s true, I was just saying that you can’t say that has nothing to do with her color. She was too black. Just like Karen was too Latina. Which is how it is. But it feels like its taboo to say that. Soon as it gets said there is a rush to deny it.

    Its all a big ball of stuff, you know. The singing, the song choices, being boring, but this other stuff is in the mix too, I think. It just is what it is.

    But honestly, there are bigger fish to fry than singing contests on that front. :D I don’t actually care to what degree what affected what on a karaoke show.

  • webster

    A bass guitar. I’ll repeat. A guitar .

    Lol, touche. But …just don’t say that to a bassist. Just like Randy Jackson is acknowledged as a bass player, and Funkbrother great, Bob Babbitt, played bass (amazingly) on Motown night. If Ryan had introduced Babbitt as a guitar player, Randy would have body-slammed him, I’m betting.

    Like I said, a nit. And when Casey next plays his bass fiddle, we can say he played fiddle. (These instruments just have too many names, don’t they?)

    But, that said, maybe Casey did play guitar. He probably can.

  • tierbee

    At this rate, really good black singers aren’t going to try out for Idol, they’re going to the competition like X Factor or Sing-off, or places like that.

    I want my Sing-Off back… They didn’t really have R&B guys with dance moves there, either, though if I recall. Committed did win, and they are adorable and talented, but not really what I’m picturing as the R&B guy that Idol really needs in my opinion. Though watching Therry dance might be entertaining, he’s so tall and skinny ;)

    Will be interested to see if anyone pops up on X-Factor.

  • gangreen29

    Actually I think everyone this season except for Pia plays instruments.

  • Tess

    Let’s see: season 1, teenage white female…2, r&b black male…3, r&b black female…4, country white female…5, prematurely gray white male…6, bi-racial female…7,8,9, white male. So out of 9 idols we have 4 females, 2 blacks, and one bi-racial. I think the Idol fans have been pretty good about voting fairly diversely.

    I’m not the greatest judge of singing talent but in 8 seasons (I skipped season 9) I have, at least, been right about the final two 7 times (season 5 didn’t go according to my thoughts) and I don’t think I gave a thought to gender, color, age, attractiveness or genre. I think that there are proabably a lot of AI voters who are like me…voting or choosing a contestant just because you like them and think they deserve to win without contemplating that others may think you biased or racist for doing so.

  • girlygirl

    nvm

  • monleo1705

    Well, i guess it had to happen. Naima and Thia were goners from the beginning due to their uniqueness and personality, one being too bland (Thia) and the other too quirky (Naima). I couldn’t really see them being marketable anyway. Watch out Paul, you could be next. Sad though, I still like Paul alot.. :(

    And we are down to 3 girls and 6 dudes!! You are kidding me??! Jacob HAS to be the next to go! I can’t take anymore horse singing.

    I am surprised Hayley survived so far considering she was in B3 the most out of these kids. But i did enjoy her performance on Benny and the Jetsssss. Lol. If she continues to amp it up like this, she’ll be a force. Watch out Pia. However, my faves still remain as James and Pia. Imagine these 2 at the finale. Rocking the house with Fire (literally) vs powerhouse showtunes vocals. Nice.

  • Marie Ruffin

    Well folks think on this: American Idol Female alumni have outsold the male alumni. And two of the black females are always top 10 on the charts.

  • tierbee

    I know that’s true, I was just saying that you can’t say that has nothing to do with her color. She was too black. Just like Karen was too Latina.

    Right, well, I see your point – I guess what I meant is that it’s more the Rastafarian/African dance/reggae that people were getting put off by than just her color alone, even though it all wraps together. So I should probably have phrased it more that it was more than just that she’s black, I guess it was how “ethnic” that blackness is? Does that make sense? I’m probably making a muddle of this, I hope you understand my point. I’m not dismissing that with a primarily white audience votes more for white contestants. I’m honestly pretty surprised how well Jacob is hanging in there as a gay black guy.

  • jammasta

    jammasta – laughing – I always thought you were a woman! ;)

    Is it sad that I really don’t blame you? lol. I’m in the minority here as a straight guy (and I’m 21, I think that makes things a little weirder). At least you got that what I said was in jest and not meant to be anti-you. Some people don’t really get that a lot of things I say are in jest >_>.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Haley was the breakout star of the season. Hey, everyone thought Tamyra Grey would outsell Kelly back in the day. One never knows.

    Well, at this point, I would be surprised, but as she’s “rising in stock”, I don’t really think we should be fast to count her out. When she made Top 13, I had her at the bottom of the barrel. I find myself slightly more interested in her each week. No, I don’t think she has potential to win. I just think she could potentially do better on the tour and really hit her stride post-Idol.Tamyra was actually my favorite that season (hell, actually, she and RJ Helton were the only ones I remembered at all that season as a casual watcher, although RJ wasn’t because I liked him, but because my sister hated him). I dunno where she is now.

    Surprises can happen here, good point.

    Actually I think everyone this season except for Pia plays instruments.

    This always interests me, so who do we have so far playing an instrument?

    Casey – bass
    Paul – guitar
    Stefano – piano
    James – guitar
    Scott – guitar
    Jacob – not sure
    Naima – not sure
    Thia – guitar and piano (not on show)
    Pia – not sure
    Lauren – not sure
    Haley – for some reason, I have a feeling she plays piano, but not sure.
    Karen – not sure
    Ashthon – was learning piano

    Anyone wanna fill out the “not sure”s?

  • sma11ie

    In my opinion the girl (Haley) is the total package. Cute, talented, young, and quirky. Remember in Season 3 and Season 6 Fantasia and Jordin were very mid-pack at this point of their respective seasons and much “bigger” voice ladies were front-runners such as Latoya Londen, Jennifer Hudson, Melinda Doolittle, and Lakisha Jones.

    Jordin was never in the B3, and Fantasia was only B3 ONCE. Haley has been a frequent dweller in the B3. I don’t see her winning the whole thing over Lauren and Pia, who seem to have solid fanbases.

  • supermart

    “WHY couldn’t they find one single R&B guy who had a shot at going far in the competition? Wouldn’t a cute R&B boy with maybe some dance moves have a good shot?”

    One of my favorite Idol discussions of the past few seasons…and it frustrates me to no end each time I talk about it.
    Ya’ll remember Nikko Smith back in Season 5? I LOVED him. While he was probably more Boys II Men than super-sexy-Usher type R&B singer, he definitely was a “character” that the show hadn’t cast much prior to him and certainly haven’t ever since. I, too, LONG for a R&B male contender. While a black guy who specializes in Vandross/Hathaway clearly is a type that has auditioned for the show- I’m also not convinced that there couldn’t be a place on Idol for more Usher/Boys II Men/NeYo type singers.
    I agree with whoever wondered earlier on the thread about why R&B contenders fall somewhere through the cracks before America has a chance to vote. Its a shame— while I like my white boys with guitars just as much as the next gal (especially if that white boy is David Cook)- I also would vote my fingers off for a hot black male who shows promise.
    Purifoy….my heart still breaks for your disappearance in Hollywood week. I was ready to vote the minute I saw your audition.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3GP8Za0cEo

  • ReginaFilange

    I just wish Naima and Pia could have a lovechild with amazing pipes and African dance moves. I’d vote for her.

  • sma11ie

    Actually I think everyone this season except for Pia plays instruments.

    What does Haley play? I’d like to see her not do the awkward wedding dancing, potentially.

  • HermeticallySealed

    My problem with Karen wasn’t that she was Latino, it was her constant need to remind us like every-time she spoke, that she was. I hate when people do the pleading/pandering routine.

    Most of the problems with the girls has been the producers fault, as others have stated. They chose too many pageant girls, and not enough variety. The ones they picked in the wild card session were not the stronger ones (I’d even include Stefano as another wtf choice). Even last year, they picked Paige and Haley over Angela? What were they thinking?

    Face it, TPTB are the girls own worst enemies on this show.

  • tierbee

    Well folks think on this: American Idol Female alumni have outsold the male alumni. And two of the black females are always top 10 on the charts.

    But my point is that the vast majority of people voting for American Idol do not care. They like who they like, whatever that reason may be. My aunt likes Scotty because he’s a nice little cute country boy. My mom likes Stefano because he’s adorable and sings nice. My sister loves Jacob and wants to buy a gospel album from him. My friend has a girl crush on Pia and wishes she was her super secret girlfriend…

  • jammasta

    I just wish Naima and Pia could have a lovechild with amazing pipes and African dance moves. I’d vote for her.

    That would be disgustingly awesome.

  • MayMirabella

    And we are down to 3 girls and 6 dudes!! You are kidding me??! Jacob HAS to be the next to go! I can’t take anymore horse singing.

    I like Jacob a lot. I would rather see Stefano or Paul go first before Jacob. I think it is time for a guy to go next but I hope it is not Jacob first.

  • tinawina

    Let’s see: season 1, teenage white female…2, r&b black male…3, r&b black female…4, country white female…5, prematurely gray white male…6, bi-racial female…7,8,9, white male. So out of 9 idols we have 4 females, 2 blacks, and one bi-racial. I think the Idol fans have been pretty good about voting fairly diversely.

    I’m not the greatest judge of singing talent but in 8 seasons (I skipped season 9) I have, at least, been right about the final two 7 times (season 5 didn’t go according to my thoughts) and I don’t think I gave a thought to gender, color, age, attractiveness or genre. I think that there are proabably a lot of AI voters who are like me…voting or choosing a contestant just because you like them and think they deserve to win without contemplating that others may think you biased or racist for doing so

    Yes, at first things were spread out, but now they have had a pretty narrow run in the past few years. So if that run continues AI might have an image problem. Nobody is calling anyone here a racist. Saying race/culture might have a role in who a majority white viewership might consider weird, etc is not the same as calling people racist.

    So I should probably have phrased it more that it was more than just that she’s black, I guess it was how “ethnic” that blackness is? Does that make sense? I’m probably making a muddle of this, I hope you understand my point.

    No I get you. No worries!

  • tierbee

    My problem with Karen wasn’t that she was Latino, it was her constant need to remind us like every-time she spoke, that she was.

    This is the other thing that was consistent on Facebook and within my family members who watch the show. They didn’t like that, and they didn’t like her singing in Spanish. I just was bored by her, as sweet as she seemed to be. It was pretty simple for me.

  • gangreen29

    Casey – bass
    Paul – guitar
    Stefano – piano
    James – guitar
    Scott – guitar
    Jacob – not sure
    Naima – not sure
    Thia – guitar and piano (not on show)
    Pia – not sure
    Lauren – not sure
    Haley – for some reason, I have a feeling she plays piano, but not sure.
    Karen – not sure
    Ashthon – was learning piano

    Anyone wanna fill out the “not sure”s?

    Jacob and Naima drums. Lauren and Haley guitar I believe. Karen guitar for sure, I saw videos of her playing that were taken down before the show.

  • TheOther

    Pia seems like my “frenemy”. She really is a great singer, but she just doesn’t interest me anymore, and the thought of her winning over James or Scott makes me unhappy. Too many roboballads. At least Scott can stay interesting without changing it up much.Sigh. With my luck, she’ll win over someone more interesting and I’ll be pissed and have to endure 5 uninteresting songs over tour. I don’t think her changing it up at this point would be relevant to my interests.

    But all Scotty has done is ballads – all by male Country artists. And I am personally not interested in hearing 5 of pretty much the same song on the tour if Scotty wins.

    But if Pia is left standing with Scotty and James in the end, I would see her having the edge. She likely be the prime benefactor to pick up votes from fans of those who would have been eliminated up to that point, include fans of Lauren.

  • tierbee

    No I get you. No worries!

    Don’t want tension in the bunker, after all! :)

  • missytoots

    There was an attractive black guy in Jordan’s group in Vegas I thought was a better singer than him (didn’t have the evil edit either) and should have made top 24 but didn’t.

    I think the judge’s don’t help when they bother criticizing they are harsher on the females eg. Randy. girl: that wasn’t for me dawg too pitchy. Boy: that was pitchy but it doesn’t matter that was hawt you are so original.

  • NOLA

    Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?

    Scotty, Lauren, Pia ABSOFRIGGINLUTELY!

  • Chicagolaw

    It’s pretty simple, the singers on Idol do not reflect the current CHR chart. And I don’t see this changing. I honestly don’t think this show will produce another winner who isn’t male and white.

    Seems like an easy call to me—it will be Scotty and James in the final.

  • tierbee

    There was an attractive black guy in Jordan’s group in Vegas I thought was a better singer than him (didn’t have the evil edit either) and should have made top 24 but didn’t.

    I seem to remember that, too. Was bewildered that we got Jordan instead.

  • Marie Ruffin

    Can someone tell me one boy you would pay money for to see in a 1-2 hour concert? and why?

  • HermeticallySealed

    They didn’t like that, and they didn’t like her singing in Spanish.

    See, I don’t mind bilingual singing. Sometimes it can be pretty cool, but she came off as only doing it to pander, not to shake things up and surprise us.

    I think Naimi’s problem wasn’t even the fact that she was too ethnic, just that her performances were so often a mess. I think if she had been in tune more often and the performances and visuals more refined, she would have done better.

  • gangreen29

    It’s pretty simple, the singers on Idol do not reflect the current CHR chart.

    They didn’t reflect the singers on the CHR chart back on season 1 either.

  • ReginaFilange

    Come to think of it I wouldn’t be too worried about the gender ratio right now since I see Stefano and Paul as the next two to go, with Casey trailing not far behind them. I’d say Pia and Lauren are locks for the top three at this point, so I’d predict

    Stefano<Paul<Haley/Jacob<Casey<Scotty<Lauren<James/Pia

  • tierbee

    Can someone tell me one boy you would pay money for to see in a 1-2 hour concert? and why?

    I can’t really answer that until I hear their music post-Idol. I mean, as much as I love David Cook I wouldn’t want to go hear him sing polka, I don’t like polka. Sorry, polka fans :) I’m intrigued by Casey, by what I’ve heard from Paul with his band, by Jacob.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Can someone tell me one boy you would pay money for to see in a 1-2 hour concert? and why?

    Easy. James. I like the style he leans towards, and I like his voice. This is assuming he goes more alternative/metal rather than pop/ac.

  • EmmaCT

    Well, I’m confused this season. Really confused. I like Pia but I really dislike ballad singers… she never misses a note… her Hollywood week version of “Grenade” made me buy the original – and like everyone else I’m waiting for her to do something other than stand there in one spot singing the songs that were the big-voice ballads of the past 30 years that I so hate… but somehow still like her.

    I love jazz and was awed by Casey early on and waiting for him to come back… I hate being shouted at… really don’t like the screeches… but really like James Durbin – but not sure I like the music – but amazed at his vocals… really didn’t like Haley’s growl… or Haley… but find myself pulling for her… have grown to like Scotty but don’t normally like country… want someone other than a “belter” to pull through… yet really like Pia… loved Naima’s change-ups… but had a hard time with Naima’s often off-key stuff… liked Lauren Alaina’s vocals last night… but have a hard time with her… yet find her heartbreakingly real… and artificial… don’t like Jacob’s voice yet like Jacob… can only listen to Stefano and not watch him… had a hard time understanding who Thia was… unfortunately I’m disconnected to everyone… yet really interested in everyone this season… And Paul. Love quirky, love his interpretation, hold my breath that he doesn’t lose the notes, forgive the notes he misses, love a voice that is so different, wonder what’s not quite right with his voice at the moment, and surprisingly love his recordings. He and Pia are polar opposites, yet my favorites. Sort of. I guess.

    And have to say I don’t like Elton John, but have never forgotten Jennifer Hudson’s “Circle of Life,” usually like indie or more alternative music – love their recordings more than the live performances… Yep, sign me “Confused, Season 10 AI viewer.”

  • tierbee

    Oh, and why? I think Casey’s a fabulous musician and depending on what he was singing, I think he’d be entertaining. But I have no clue what his post-Idol music will sound like so that’s speculation. I liked the vibe of Paul’s pre-Idol stuff with his band. And Jacob with a little more polish could be pretty stellar.

  • sonyab

    Group: What?!!?! No group singers tonight with pointy poses? :( Hmm well I gotta say, Loraine and Scotty sings really well together. :)

    Fantasia: The only thing I am going to say is that I bet that Fantasia’s fans were excited seeing her. :) OH and it was funny and cute when she told Steven she loves him awww! :)

    Kris Allen: Hey!!! I didn’t expect to see him!!! Kris fans I bet you are happy! :) He is still hot! :)

    Lorine Alaina: Was she the one who fell down the stairs? OUCH! Poor thing. :(

    Ryan and Casey: Ryan says If you knew how many you got you’d be very proud. Oh? How many votes did he get Ryan?! :)

    Jamie Foxx and Will.i.am: That was really entertaining! I enjoyed it. :)

    Simon: You know, If he was still here he would have probably hated Casey’s performance last week. :) And Naima’s performances. Damn I miss him!!!

  • tinawina

    I do think Pia stands to benefit the most as the last “pageant girl” standing. She’s also going to get some pretty princess votes. If she just goes uptempo convincingly, its hard not to see her as the girl who will last the longest.

    I don’t think Lauren is a lock for top 3 at all.

    Don’t want tension in the bunker, after all! :)

    LMAO! Never! Bunker Solidarity FTW!

  • sonyab

    First up, Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery singing “I Told You So” sung by Carrie Underwood and Randy Travis. I won’t say the obvious. Nice try though kids!

    It’s not obvious to me MJ. What are you trying to say? :)

  • webster

    Anyone wanna fill out the “not sure”s?

    Pia has an older sister that plays in a symphony. Families like that, usually all the kids learn an instrument. I’m betting Pia plays something, but it may be something like violin, that wouldn’t fit into a singing performance that well.

  • ross

    I think this is a first for IDOL — all girls gone one right after another. And don’t tell me the boys are better, because they’re not. It’s just the audience makeup. Older cougar women and their teenage daughters. You know that men are not voting! But surprisingly it’s the women of Idol who are the stars — Jennifer, Fantasia, Carrie, and Kelly. Oh yeh, throw Daughtry in the mix.
    So the women who are voting are getting it wrong every single season. And who’s album is beating the pants out of the Season 9? Crystal!

    I’m a guy, and I vote, on occasion.

    I don’t think the women who are voting (or the men who are voting) are getting it wrong every single season. Or most seasons. Not everyone thinks like you, I guess. Obviously, the voters don’t think like you. But you’re entitled to your opinion.

    As other people have said, no girl was sent packing last week, and two guys were in the bottom three, so for some reason your theory about cougars and their teenage daughters is only accurate this week, not last week.

  • jammasta

    But all Scotty has done is ballads – all by male Country artists. And I am personally not interested in hearing 5 of pretty much the same song on the tour if Scotty wins.

    Well, Stevie Wonder isn’t a male country artist, but that’s beside the point.

    Key word is “country”, and another key here is stage presence. Scotty is country and has stage presence to stand out, IMO, and it certainly makes up for the lack of versatility he’s shown thus far and put him at the top of the pack.

    Pia is pop and has pipes, but does not do enough to stand out among Whitney, Mariah, Celine, and other similar artists, which, in turn, makes her choosing pop ballads each week that much worse.

    Scotty has this…. “je ne sais quoi” about him that makes it work for him that Pia doesn’t (and nobody better be thinking penis because that’s not what it is). Just my opinion, and I’m thinking it’s stage presence or charisma.

    Can someone tell me one boy you would pay money for to see in a 1-2 hour concert? and why?

    Yes, I can!

    James and Scott, very easily. They’re both right up my wheelhouse in the hard-rockin’ metal/classic rock that I love and Scotty has the perfect country voice and stage presence for me. Those are my top 2 horses in the race.

    Casey and Paul, possibly. Casey has a really cool stage presence and does some music I like. A little growly, but his personality is killer, IMO. Paul, same thing. I haven’t been a fan of his performances lately, but I think he’s a pretty good entertainer. I have to say, I’m kinda a sucker for the “how you guys doin’ this evenin'” and other openers he does.

    Only girls whose 1-2 hour concert I might pay money for are Naima and Lauren.

  • webster

    See, I don’t mind bilingual singing. Sometimes it can be pretty cool, but she came off as only doing it to pander, not to shake things up and surprise us.

    Yeah, and if the hope was to get some Latin influence in the actual music, Karen was a big disappointment. It’s like the Disney princesses: a different box of crayons, but all the same music.

  • ri

    for those with any doubt…doesn’t this at least prove that the Idol voting cannot possibly be rigged? i mean, what tv show would purposely represent themselves with the kind of gender and racial bias that has seemingly been on display here in the past few seasons?

  • Jx223

    Somewhere in the blogosphere you know this conversation is getting heated. I have been asking this question for 3-4 seasons? Can’t they find a decent Black guy who can SING? I thought Deandre was the answer. Poor guy. At this rate, really good black singers aren’t going to try out for Idol, they’re going to the competition like X Factor or Sing-off, or places like that.
    They audition about 100,000 people. Stage 1 of the auditions they go through screeners, stage 2 the same, it’s not until stage 3 or 4 that they see the judges. So something must be happening at stage 1 & 2; right? And somehow they always end up with a Black guy who’s gay or fat.
    Do the producers know that Chris Brown, Trey Songz and Usher are the 3 top black male singers in the U.S.?
    Do they know that Beyonce is the top selling black female in the U.S.? So what is the problem with finding somebody of color.
    I was so hoping a Latina (Karen) would make it through because the music world so badly needs another Selena and Gloria Estefan. But, they can’t even find a decent Latina(o) singer!
    What’s wrong with these judges?????

    I think that the closest we have ever come to a current R&B sounding guy was Nikko Smith and Mario Vasquez in Season 4. I think that Mario could have gone far but he ended up dropping out of the competition. He did end up putting out a song after he left idol that I thought had a current R&B sound to it. Elliot and Anoop tried, but didn’t quite get there.

    And I lol’ed when Jordan did “OMG”, that didn’t work. I think that TPTB can do better, but they don’t seem to want to. They can find any cute, current sounding R&B guys/cute black talented, current R&B men. I find that hard to believe. It’s poor casting decisions by TPTB again.I think that TPTB can do better, and I think that Nigel can do better.

    Nigel has made some pretty good casting decisions on his other show “So You Think You Can Dance”.He has casted some sexy, black men on that show over the years. And while singing and Dancing aren’t exactly the same thing they are both forms of entertainment.If Nigel can find sexy, black dancers, I don’t see why he can’t find the same in a current R&B singer.I think it will be interesting if X-factor goes after this type of singers, finds them and these singers go far on X-factor in addition to X-factor possibly doing well over here in the US. That would be interesting and could cause Idol to re-evaluate how they cast people.

  • MayMirabella

    But the funky clothes and the African dress stuff.. that is about her color! LOL. She’s not the least bit exotic to me. When I lived in Fort Greene Bklyn I couldn’t throw a rock without hitting a Naima. And reggae is not exotic to me either. Basically, what you are saying was she wasn’t the right kind of black. She was, basically, too black for “America”, whatever that means.

    I don’t actually care BTW, because it is nothing new actually. This is the way of the world. I was just saying the show didn’t need this rep right now so I hoped another girl or minority didn’t go next week.

    Agreed !!! Well Said !!!

  • brian_ny9876

    i really think this season is VERY weak and the judges themselves are not to far behind…..X Factor is going to blow American Idol out the water im sorry to say…but Simon is the IT factor missing..and Steven Tyler bores the crap out of me..he doesnt critique he just says yes to everyone blahh…im predicting James and Lauren in the final..until Pia shows me something more than Ballads

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Re: Latina/o contestants. Don’t forget Iraheta and Castro. They both finished fourth in relatively recent seasons. I loved ‘em both and voted early and often, as I was living in Chicago at the time. ;-)

  • jammasta

    I think it will be interesting if X-factor goes after this type of singers, finds them and these singers go far on X-factor in addition to X-factor possibly doing well over here in the US. That would be interesting and could cause Idol to re-evaluate how they cast people.

    The sad thing about this is that I can see them shooting for it with Nicki Minaj, Lady GaGa, Justin Bieber, Rihanna huge pop-star types and I can see a WGWG still winning over them :P.

    Wouldn’t have a problem with that if the WGWG were good, however.

  • carolinacharms

    Holy smokes. I dont even like country music, but i gotta give props to professional grade singing and performing when I hear and see it. I dunno what feed you guys were listening to, but my feed of the youngins doing country in duet form was sensational, epic, moving. Not a missed note between the two of them, and the ending was especially well-executed. Emotion, connection, phrasing, pitch: Check, check, check, check. They could cut that record right now.

    And as far as “Solid” goes, Naima was flat, Jacob was in his head voice entire time, and the choreography was from hunger. Not to mention the awkward silent bars early on. Oh well.

  • MayMirabella

    I think that very cute Deandre, the teen African American guy, would have garnered a lot of votes had he made it to the top 24. I hope he tries out again next year as I think he was only 15 or 16 as he sang in that group of all teens that was highly praised during group day during Hollywood week. Then he was cut sometime after that. But he is someone who is contemporary with the cute teen boy thing going for him.Season 6 and Season 3 were more diverse and women of color did very well those years as far as lasting longer in the competition and winning. So perhaps it is a variety of factors. And both years, there were some cut guys competiting but the women beat them as the women those years did considerably better and were more consistent. So it could be the casting and the producers and judges causing some of what we have been seeing the past 3 years. It all depends on who ends up in the Seminfinals when people begin to vote.

    And the producers have pimped certain contestants far more than others and those are not the ones who are going home so that factors in. These 4 girls who have left , 2 were wildcards, 1 was loved by JLO and praised a lot by her especially, and Thia was not as pimped as Lauren but in the semifinals, she was praised a great deal.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Also, I liked Naima. I don’t think she left because she was too weird. I think she sucked last nightwith the phony accent and had the death spot. I put all my points on her because of that.

    I didn’t like Thia’s performances, but she seemed like a sweet, poised girl. Nothing there to inspire me to vote, either.

  • jammasta

    I think that very cute Deandre, the teen African American guy, would have garnered a lot of votes had he made it to the top 24. I hope he tries out again next year as I think he was only 15 or 16 as he sang in that group of all teens that was highly praised during group day during Hollywood week. Then he was cut sometime after that. But he is someone who is contemporary with the cute teen boy thing going for him.

    YES. Deandre PLEASE come back.

    So glad people still remember him. I really wish Lauren Turner could come back, and Kendra Chantelle too.

    Something kinda needs to be done about these people who are really good but are booted, especially Lauren and Kendra. Voters may be wrong and/or the judges won’t choose them for wildcard. What can be done?

    As much as this song by Jamie Foxx and will.i.am sucks (Songs about partying can die), I do kinda like the dancing, especially the capoeira bit (the people who looked like they were fighting while dancing)

  • ri

    wait was Deandre the 15 or 16yr old guy with the beautiful blond dredlocks?

  • jammasta

    wait was Deandre the 15 or 16yr old guy with the beautiful blond dredlocks?

    Yes.

  • girlygirl

    I wouldn’t be too sure about X-Factor finding someone who fits the current CHR scene any better than AI has done. What type of performers has X-Factor in the UK come up with? I know the most current winner was another “WGWG”. Andfrom what I can tell, Simon’s personal tastes seem to be far far away from the pop/r&b/dance stuff that dominates the charts right now

  • JudyOhio

    I would buy a Scotty album. I’m happy Stefano stayed. I liked Thia’s Daniel, but understood why she was voted off. I put all my points on Naima, had a gut feeling she would definitely go. Hope Paul got a wakeup call. I see I’m writing short choppy sentences, probably because I am sleepy :), guess I better go, g’nite all.

  • sf3456

    Damn! Almost got rid of Paul. Guess those cougar moms know how to text.

    Stupid audience sitting on their hands when the minorities were performing and then they were on their feet for everybody else.

    All that needs to happen is get rid of Jacob and then the show would be lily white. Just the way everyone likes it.

    Speaking of Jacob, now that Naima is gone, who is he going to hang out with?

  • progression

    Re: Latina/o contestants. Don’t forget Iraheta and Castro.

    Also David Archuleta ;)

    On one level I guess it’s odd that AI hasn’t had an attractive, urban CHR oriented black male constestant. But if you look at who of that type is really selling, they tend to be guys with the kind of “edge” that isn’t going to fly on a “family show”, e.g. Chris Brown. And if they won they’d have to try to succeed on the radio with material written by David Hodges, lol.

  • ri

    (thanks, JAMMASTA). oh bring Deandre back to me! huge mistake to let him go. what were they thinking?! he was freakin’ awesome. my night is ruined…..

  • Jx223

    Changing the subject for a moment but I just realized why Fantasia has gotten so thick lately. It’s because she’s preparing to play the role of Mahalia Jackson in a bio pic. I had heard about that before but I had forgotten about that until someone brought it up at another site. This explains the sudden weight gain/ why she’s gotten so thick.

    I had wondered when I first heard this news how Fantasia would pull this off because Mahalia was a heavy woman and Fantasia is not usually heavy, in fact when she first was on Idol during season 3, she was quite skinny. And she looked like someone who looked like they had been naturally skinny their whole life. But tonight she looked like she got really thick, but it’s because of her preparing to play Mahalia Jackson, it’s not because she just let herself go or anything like that.

  • NOLA

    Ok, I will admit it. I prefer males over females. I don’t want a woman singing to me.

  • Idolnewby

    I thought the duet by Scotty and Lauren was fantastic! Listen to the audience….they loved it. Lauren seemed a little nervous, but had great solo vocals. Scotty may be a bundle of nerves, but he never shows it….just always seems so natural on stage. I hope they each get a duet with a country artist on the finale….should be amazing.

    Yes, I love country music!

  • jammasta

    Speaking of Latina/o contestants, Scott is actually 1/4th Puerto Rican from his dad’s mom :P.

    I wonder if I’d be interested in discussing the Sociology of American Idol…. I think it would make for an interesting essay/article.

    I don’t think the voters are 100% to blame for the fact that the last 4 eliminations were colored women. The producers cast them, and the only one with any star quality seemed to be Naima (IMO). Then again, that does kinda bring up the question “Did the producers intentionally do this?”

  • ptslittlecomment

    Casey plays the bass, the piano, the guitar, the flute and the drums.

  • dishwalla

    Pia is pop and has pipes, but does not do enough to stand out among Whitney, Mariah, Celine, and other similar artists, which, in turn, makes her choosing pop ballads each week that much worse.

    The judges, Jimmy Iovine and TPTB seems to think very highly of her. And they know the industry.And the more guys remain, the more they will be splitting votes among each other. Pia likely pushed herself to the leader of the pack by inheriting the votes of Thia’s fans (and likely Naima’s as well) and Karen before that.

    I don’t see how the Final 2 can be Scotty and James. Both have such defined music genres. And both haven’t done a lot outside of their lane. So in order for that to happen, it means that they would have to inherit the fan votes from Pia, Casey, Lauren, Jacob, Haley, Stefano, Paul – as well as their fans.

    Whereas I can see Pia more apt to inherit votes from Jacob, Haley, Stefano, possibly Casey and Paul. Even a lot of votes from Lauren would go more to Pia (than Scotty), since she and Pia are close.

  • sf3456

    On one level I guess it’s odd that AI hasn’t had an attractive, urban CHR oriented black male constestant. But if you look at who of that type is really selling, they tend to be guys with the kind of “edge” that isn’t going to fly on a “family show”, e.g. Chris Brown. And if they won they’d have to try to succeed on the radio with material written by David Hodges, lol.

    Nikko Smith, but they really never gave him a chance. Then, “America” decided to vote in Jorge Nunez over Ju’Not Joyner.

  • Jx223

    I wouldn’t be too sure about X-Factor finding someone who fits the current CHR scene any better than AI has done. What type of performers has X-Factor in the UK come up with? I know the most current winner was another “WGWG”. Andfrom what I can tell, Simon’s personal tastes seem to be far far away from the pop/r&b/dance stuff that dominates the charts right now

    I think they might be able to find someone who could do well the CHR scene. I think they might harder to find a singer like this than Idol has been doing. Idol doesn’t seem like they have been trying to find this type of singer at all.

    And I definitely think that X-factor will be looking for people could possibly fit and do very well in the current pop scene. I’ve seen the “She’s got it,, he’s got it, they’ve got it type of commercials they have benn showing on Fox, showing people who have been very successful in the music industry especially pop music. Here’s one where they show clips of different artists, including Usher. I think that X- factor will try to find people that could do well in pop music and possibly R&B music as well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCVvZrmv3s

    Ok, I will admit it. I prefer males over females. I don’t want a woman singing to me.

    lol.

  • colette

    The judges, Jimmy Iovine and TPTB seems to think very highly of her. And they know the industry.

    One of the things that’s wrong for me about this year: I don’t care about the industry. I care about being entertained and engaged and excited by young singers.

    I think the audience is on to Paul. I realize some folks are just charmed by him, but I think his voice is weak and seems to be shot alread, and he just doesn’t put enough oomph into his performances for me.

    I’m glad Stefano dodged a bullet, but now he’s gotta start picking the right material and getting outta Snoozeville.

  • supermart

    Emotion, connection, phrasing, pitch: Check, check, check, check. They could cut that record right now.

    I think Scott/Lauren could have been better. And my finger is pointed to the LACK of connection and emotion from Lauren. Smile at him! Flirt a bit! Hug him at the end! They didn’t have much chemistry….I think it could have done them (and the performance) both wonders if they did. Anyone feel me on this?

    On one level I guess it’s odd that AI hasn’t had an attractive, urban CHR oriented black male constestant. But if you look at who of that type is really selling, they tend to be guys with the kind of “edge” that isn’t going to fly on a “family show”, e.g. Chris Brown. And if they won they’d have to try to succeed on the radio with material written by David Hodges, lol.

    Wonderfully stated point. But I really think all it would take would be one to “break the mold” and do well on the show and others could fall in line. Case in point- I don’t think anyone was expecting the “edge” of “rockers” having a place on Idol, and then Constantine (hehe) and Bo (love him!) showed up.

    RE: Deandre was awesome!! Seemed so mature in his final Hollywood piece. That was the worst dropped story line of the season…. showing the brilliance of those teens doing Somebody to Love- and then none of them making the cut in the end. (Instead that episode, I remember them focusing on the lammmmme broken up couple Rob and Chelsea.)

  • eyin

    It does suck seeing 4 women (of color, coincidentally) but i do think they are the weakest of the bunch. But i think pia and lauren will easily outlast jacob, paul, stefano and casey. The last four standing will be scotty, pia, lauren and james, so it’ll even out eventually.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Pia likely pushed herself to the leader of the pack by inheriting the votes of Thia’s fans (and likely Naima’s as well) and Karen before that.

    No, I don’t see a Naima fan going for Pia. Thia fans, sure.

    Naima was quirkly and took chances. Someone who appreciates that (like me) might not appreciate someone like Pia, who plays it safe and has no imagination. In fact, I would argue if a Naima fan decided to vote for another girl, they’d vote for Haley.

  • NOLA

    jrain says:
    03/31/2011 at 10:24 pm
    Just FYI. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame theme does not necessarily mean rock week. It’s a wide field which includes the likes of Madonna. There has been a lot of controversy over the years on nominations to the rock hall.

    That’s very true. This won’t just be rock. The Rock Hall of Fame includes blues which led into hillbilly (country), which led into hillbilly rock (Elvis) , which led into Rock (Elvis).

    This should be a week for all to find their niche, depending how many songs they give them from which to choose.

  • naz

    Stefano did not have ONE bad performance. He’s had 2 bad weeks in a row and he’s just inconsistent. I find him more tolerable than Paul and Casey though.

    I am Stefano’s fan, so obviously, I find only one bad performance from him. Last week was the worst for me. Two are Okay performance and he did have some really really good performances. Seriously, the guy is not bad at all. I am sure that if you are a fan of particular contestant, you’re less likely to find something wrong on them, so yea. Talk about consistency,IMO, no one is consistent except IMO(again) Pia, James and Scotty? I don’t know, at least I love this group of kids coz no one really give a train wreck performance yet.

  • songsungblue

    Emotion, connection, phrasing, pitch: Check, check, check, check. They could cut that record right now.

    Maybe, but I think it would suck. I didn’t see the least amount of emotion or connection or even interesting phrasing. Scotty and Lauren seem like they’re play-acting to me. There’s no depth there.

  • artemis

    dishwalla-
    Pia might get some of Thia’s votes, but a number of Thia’s fans also like Stefano, so he may be getting more support from them.

    I can’t see Naima’s fans switching en masse to Pia-the two are total opposites in vocal and performance styles.

    This is a very unpredictable season. Scotty is a frontrunner now, but he sounds the same every week. Pia is beautiful, with a lovely voice, but so boring to me. Eh, we’ll see.

  • fanaround

    The only surprise there to me was Paul in the B3. I have been travelling for a while and not keeping up with our collective speculation, but have we discussed the possibility that 19etc would try signing Paul’s pre-idol band? Have they ever given that a shot with other contestants? The band has done well on itunes and it might be a revenue possibility for tptb.

    I agree with the comments that Deandre could have been the missing family friendly great voice cute black guy. Never understood that choice.

    So interesting that different people seem to rotate through the B3.

  • x57x

    Speaking of Latina/o contestants, Scott is actually 1/4th Puerto Rican from his dad’s mom :P .

    LOL…oh yeah, I forgot that. He is a straight up borincano.

    So a Latino is regarded as a front runner by many Idol writers…lol

    If people say bad things about him, I’m gonna say they are racists.

    :)

  • NOLA

    I have a lot of black friends and not one of them watch Idol. This isnt their kind of music, or their kind of show. That’s probably why they don’t show up for auditions.

  • Tess

    Deandre isn’t black…his heritage appears to be from the pacific islands.

  • sf3456

    I agree with the comments that Deandre could have been the missing family friendly great voice cute black guy. Never understood that choice.

    See, I don’t think he was cute at all. He was obviously mixed. I’m sure that’s why everyone is saying he was cute. If he was darker, no one would be saying anything.

    I wonder if Durbin has time set aside on Sunday to catch WrestleMania.

  • hoosiermama

    Kris Allen: Hey!!! I didn’t expect to see him!!! Kris fans I bet you are happy! :) He is still hot! :)

    I loved seeing him and Katy in the audience, even if it was for only 2 seconds. Now, get back to writing that new single so you can come back and sing next time!

    I vote by the performances that week, not by fantarding, so for me, it was time for Naima and Thia to go. I have voted for Naima before, but this week she just wasn’t very good and Thia bored me. I’m glad Stefano has another week to try and get it together–maybe play piano next week? I voted for Paul this week so was surprised to see him in the bottom 3 (altho my hubby can’t stand him). I did enjoy their Band Wings performance, even if it was a trainwreck! lol I liked the duets/trios. Was a nice change up from the group sing. Good job Nigel (and/or Jimmy)!

    Not a big fan of the two guest performers (Fanny can screech with the best of them–oy!), but overall a solid show.

    One last thing. Who decided to go crazy with the swooping camera this week? He needs to chill–that made the Idols look so fake following it around. It was annoying both nights, so dial it back, please! (K, thanks!)

  • genius20913

    I will be so happy when Pual finally leaves..the only reason why he didnt leave tonight is that he has the support of Votefortheworst.com…he’ll be gon soon

    Casey got the sympathy vote from last week but his vocals on wednesday were not as good as i thought he would be…i think he used the growling to mask his average-sounding voice

    as far as idol not putting through black talent, i totally agree…I still cant believe that they cut Jerome Bell…he was handsome and had a great voice…i also find it weird that Idol has NEVER EVER had more than 1 black guy in the top 12/13..and it makes me question whether the only r&b/pop black guy they can find was Jacob??… im black and im not a fan of his type of singing at all..and Jordan’s performace of OMG was one the worst things ive ever heard in my 6 seasons of watching idol…

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I have a lot of black friends and not one of them watch Idol. This isnt their kind of music, or their kind of show. That’s probably why they don’t show up for auditions.

    I’m totally baffled by this comment.

    I am also creeped out by Paul and his uber white teeth, so who knows. He’s from my hometown, too. LOL.

    I think plenty of people of all elasticities watch and vote.

    ETA: I meant ethnicity, but elasticities works. :-)

  • platoken

    Umm, mj, you seriously thought Scotty and Lauren were bad? That is a dumb thing to think. They were INCREDIBLE. Best duet of the night. HAHA!

  • HR

    I’ve liked the show better this year but I’m not going to continue watching just to see one girl voted off after another and have it be justified because they have flaws. Every singer on that stage has a few flaws. All you have to do is compare how the boy group sounded next to the girl’s group. The girl’s have better voices overall. Keeping a few guy’s around because they are entertaining is okay with me since it’s a reality tv show but keeping all of them isn’t.

    Checking out next week. In a few weeks if this audience haven’t kicked one or two more girl’s off in favor of out of tune male singers that are not relevant I’ll consider watching again.

  • missytoots

    This is the black guy I was thinking of Aaron Sanders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on_oAy0TCPo he was attractive and I thought the best singer in his group

  • glamertitis

    Emotion, connection, phrasing, pitch: Check, check, check, check. They could cut that record right now.

    Maybe, but I think it would suck. I didn’t see the least amount of emotion or connection or even interesting phrasing. Scotty and Lauren seem like they’re play-acting to me. There’s no depth there.

    I agree. They may have good voices and raw talent, but they don’t seem believable to me.

  • NOLA

    Can someone tell me one boy you would pay money for to see in a 1-2 hour concert? and why?

    Scotty, because I love country music and I love this kid!

  • Kirsten

    i also find it weird that Idol has NEVER EVER had more than 1 black guy in the top 12/13..

    What about Season 4? Nikko Smith went out Top 9 and Anwar Robinson went out Top 7 week. Granted, Nikko was originally eliminated Top 16 night, but replaced Mario when he quit. But he did last until Top 9 (and had probably been splitting votes with Mario).

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Umm, mj, you seriously thought Scotty and Lauren were bad? That is a dumb thing to think.

    Did I say they were bad? You are putting words in my mouth. I said they weren’t no Carrie and Randy. Not the same thing.

    BTW, I’m going to let your rude post stand, because it was directed at me…but call your fellow posters “dumb” and I put you in moderation. OK?

  • webster

    First up, Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery singing “I Told You So” a duet originally sung by Carrie Underwood and Randy Travis. I won’t say the obvious. Nice try though kids!

    Wait! Is this the song Carrie and Randy Travis sang on the show a couple of years ago? That performance creeped me out. I don’t know if it was their extreme age difference or Carrie wearing a 50’s sit-com wig with a giant tarantula pinned to it, but ew.

    I think Lauren and Scotty did pretty well. But looking back what I really liked, and didn’t notice first pass. Was Casey smiling and grooving and looking all proud big brother at them, in the background.

  • sf3456

    In fact, the Top 9 are all white, except for Jacob. If he is eliminated next week, it’s going to get a little crazy.

    I predict Jacob will get the boot next week and the show will be lily white. Just the way “America” likes it, apparently.

  • songsungblue

    I will be so happy when Pual finally leaves..the only reason why he didnt leave tonight is that he has the support of Votefortheworst.com…he’ll be gon soon

    I don’t actually care when Paul goes – although I like him and I think he’s way more talented than some of the chaff on this show – but really, trust me on this, the influence of VFTW is non-existent. Laughable, really. Even if they had their minions voting madly [which I doubt, because how hard are you really going to work for that?] they would not change the course of 55 million votes. It isn’t possible. VFTW chooses a pony, and then they claim victory on coattails. The incredible nastiness of that site makes me ashamed to be human sometimes, and I can snark with the best of them. And yes, even when they picked on Sanjaya et al. They are pathetic, IMO.

  • coxolc8

    WHAT IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT THE LOOK…. SHE HAS LOOKED HER BEST IN AWHILE… IT’S PRETTY SAD, WHEN U CAN’T PLEASE NO ONE… IT’S ABOUT THE MUSIC NOT THE LOOK BUT SHE DID LOOKED GREAT 2NITE… LOVE IT… MY BABY IS THICK…. AT LEAST, SHE SHAVES HER ARMS AND KEEPS HERSELF CLEAN UNLIKE MOST OF YA’LL HOODRATS… GOD LOVES U FANTASIA AND THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS…. GET IT FANTASIA…..

  • claudette

    I think Scotty is the most mature guy there and he was definitely feeling the song. Why people like him so much (outside of here) is that he in fact does connect. He is mature and doesn’t try to be something else (Stefano/James) It’s the rest of the boys that are immature and play acting but that’s what the power voters like and Princess Pia is as cold as ice in her singing (but beauty covers a lot of that) so I expect Princess Pia and 4 of her white non-country “fun and cool” guys to be top 5.

    I think besides Scotty – Naimi and Thia feel the music (and Jacob). Scotty really bought out so much of what I’m beginning to see in Lauren.

  • Montavilla

    They keep putting through a lot of boring/mediocre/the
    same type of girls that a lot of the viewers ends up not really caring a lot about. They did this during season 8, they did this season 9, they did it again this season.

    I thought the producers did a pretty good job in the girls they chose in Seasons 8 and 9. Jesse Langseth and Mishovanna Henson are good, interesting singers. But Allison was better and that’s why they didn’t get into the finals.

    Mind you, Jasmine Murray was a pageant girl, but she was little more interesting (from her Hollywood edit) than the normal pageant bot. She was very sweet, very beautiful, and very likable. Megan was quirky and different and, if she could have backed that up with the vocals, probably would have lasted much longer.

    The semi-final format gave an uneven ratio of male/female Idols that year, but the girls who made it into the finals were all very different in style and look. It was a good variety.

    I didn’t like some of the judge’s choices in Season 9, but I thought they tried to put up a good mix. Hayley was even quirkier than Megan Joy. Katelyn was gorgeous, had a beautiful voice, and made interesting choices. Paige was really the only “diva” belter on the season. She might have lasted a lot longer if her voice hadn’t given out on her. Siobhan and Crystal are like no other female Idols — ever.

    And they had the wildcard option again this year and they could have/IMO should have put through people like Rachel Zevita and Kendra. I think that Rachel was interesting and could have given some interesting/ good performances.Maybe some “watercooler” performances, but she didn’t even get a chance to sing again for a WC spot.

    I like Rachel and I wish she could have made it through. But I think I preferred Naima to Kendra, simply because Naima provided some much-needed fun on the stage. We’re going to miss her.

  • NOLA

    Idolnewby says:
    04/01/2011 at 12:09 am
    I thought the duet by Scotty and Lauren was fantastic! Listen to the audience….they loved it. Lauren seemed a little nervous, but had great solo vocals. Scotty may be a bundle of nerves, but he never shows it….just always seems so natural on stage. I hope they each get a duet with a country artist on the finale….should be amazing.

    Yes, I love country music!

    They got a standing O from the whole audience and also from all of the Judges. That was my favorite Idol performance, ever.

  • Valentin432

    It’s always the fault of the producers, they don’t “cast” the right female talent, they don’t understand what we as voters would like in a girl.

    We just want a pretty, not sexually threathening, friendly, not pageanty, who has the voice of Kelly Clarkson, the emotional connection of Fantasia and who is not pop/country/RnB/folk or rock because they are too niche.

    Then we may consider to vote her for the top 5.

    Got to laugh at that. Sure the producers made a great job at selecting males, Lee Dewyze is an absolute musical genius.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    e is mature and doesn’t try to be something else (Stefano/James) It’s the rest of the boys that are immature and play acting but that’s what the power voters like and Princess Pia is as cold as ice in her singing (but beauty covers a lot of that) so I expect Princess Pia and 4 of her white non-country “fun and cool” guys to be top 5.

    Personally, I find it hard to judge maturity by superficial television clips on a reality talent show…

    That being said, I am not sure why you think Stefano and James are not “authentic.” I would argue James in particular is just as authentic as Scotty. He likes to RAWK. He likes to SCREAM. That’s who he is. You may not like it. Just like some don’t like Scotty being Scotty.

  • Axxxel

    Felt a bit like a voyeur when I saw Casey with the shrink… Poor him. Boys do cry…

  • mandabutter

    I predict Jacob will get the boot next week and the show will be lily white. Just the way “America” likes it, apparently.

    I’m kinda offended by that comment. Are we forgetting that Jacob, Thia and Karen Rodriguez made it into the top 10 by America’s votes with a pool of 24 competitors? 3 out of 10, 30%. Not great but not staggeringly bad. Niama, Stefano, and Ashton got the wildcard spots. So its safe to say Naima never had the fan base charged up enough to get her much further in the competition.

    I think if Jacob or Stefano were to be eliminated next it would be due to the audience not liking the performances, performance order (which has a lot to do with short-term memory for me. PLUS screen time – good or bad.), giving up on their fave or being influenced by the judges’ bussing. Not because of the color of their skin.

  • http://MJO judes

    Kris Allen: Hey!!! I didn’t expect to see him!!! Kris fans I bet you are happy! :) He is still hot! :)

    Yes it was great to see him there.My husband & I both picked the 2 leaving last night as to us they were the weakest performers on the night . Maybe now Naima’s votes will go to Paul so he may stay out of the bottom for a while?If they hadn’t saved Casey we would have missed out on his great performance this week,so I am glad he is still in as he offers some variety.

    Oh & mandabutter I agree with your comments totally. I am not American but I wouldn’t want to presume to know why everyone votes as they do -to me it mostly seems they vote for the style of singer they like & to me America mostly gets it right. I would hate to see idol bring in more saves just to get the racial mix right!!

  • mandabutter

    Are we sure the behind-the-scenes bit with Casey from last Thursday night was with a PHYSICIAN doctor, and not a psychiatric doctor?? Was he tended to medically or mentally? Big difference. EW or E! reported Casey collapsed walking through the hallway right after taping was done, so perhaps that was when he was called to aid.

    I wouldn’t feel so bad if we got a glimpse of someone checking on his vitals. Meeting with a shrink? A little tmi for me for you.

  • Wubba1973

    I am White and American idol is racist this season

  • Valentin432

    I think that very cute Deandre, the teen African American guy, would have garnered a lot of votes had he made it to the top 24.

    But they didn’t cast him because this is a “girl season”. Same thing for Colton Dixon, they didn’t cast him because he was too cute and a threat to the girls lol.

  • karenc

    With Casey, I got the impression the dr was a regular dr. It seems like when he was laying on the couch, he was resting, not talking. They could have kept a dr around if it’s true he had just had a blood transfusion, and he did look like he was going to faint.I wonder if this is common on elimination nights, though, to have a dr backstage.

  • cookcricket
    I was so hoping a Latina (Karen) would make it through because the music world so badly needs another Selena and Gloria Estefan. But, they can’t even find a decent Latina(o) singer!

    That was my other question – couldn’t they have found a more exciting Latina/Latino singer? I liked Karen a lot but she was so, so boring. I mean, these people have to be out there. Why are they getting passed over?

    Someone may have already said this, but really it’s all about identity. Karen was on the right track, having an identity, but she missed it because it wasn’t current.Identity has played a strong roll in idol since season 4. Carrie Underwood knew and knows who she is, Taylor Hicks, check, Jordin, not so much, but then this wasn’t a stand out season and she’s seemed to find her place since. She was pliable and I think AI knew it. David Cook, check, Kris Allen, check, Crystal knew and knows who she is, but she wasn’t pliable like Jordin and couldn’t be a pop singer so she just missed the mark. I still believe in some ways AI thought they could make Lee what they wanted so they pushed him.We, as a viewing audience are drawn to those who have a strong, firm identity. I think Lauren knows who she is. I believe Pia and Haley can both find theirs on the show and hopefully it’s not too late for them.Also, for some reason the girls are expected to have the big voice along with their identity. Pia and Lauren to a lesser extent have shown this. Haley, not so much, but she has an interesting and good voice.The guys, sans Stefano and Jacob know their firm identity. For some reason, the big voice is not required, but is certainly an asset. This is why Stefano and Jacob are still there (big voice), and this is why Scotty, Paul, James and Casey- who imo wavered, but seems to have gotten back on track- are still there, (identity).If one of these three girls can show a strong, current identity, and bring a moment or two to the stage, there is hope for a female winner. Just my 2 cents.

    ETA: It’s like real estate, location, location, location, except, identity, identity, identity.

  • karenc

    I think Naima still was one of the most contemporary, at least of the females, this season, and one of the most interesting contestants, and think she has star quality. I think that she did put some originality into her songs. But I do realize she needed better vocals, and her performances where kind of out there. I thought she was a strong contender to win, if she had pulled off better what she was trying to do.

    I think what she needed to do is to have done a ballad this week and really pulled it off, with stronger vocals. And something more mainstream, but keep it interesting, and original. If she had been able to do this I think she would have had a stronger chance.

    I think part of the problem with the females is that they are more or less the same kind of singer. Most are r&b/pop singers, except for Lauren, who is kind of country pop. There is more variety in types of singers for the men. What I think happens is the votes are too split if there are too many of the same type of singer.

  • hoa_teca

    Pia’s voice is good, but not special. She can try out other genres with her voice but she plays it too safe until now. On the other hand, Scotty has a deep and distinctive country voice that makes it not easy for him to switch genres. He’s a country boys at heart with a country voice. And although he sticks to country, at least he tries something new: country-fying songs, bringing his guitar, shouting out to his grandma, deliberately brings his low note at the end, trying to move around and interacting with the audience. That’s why I think he get more encouragement from the judges to stay in his land than Pia. I love Scotty, still the fact he sings with the same style weeks after weeks irritates me – but this is how he is. Staying true to himself, just push himself higher is like keep his clear identity, there will be people who leave him but there will also be new one who get attracted by this. This is like a double-edge sword.Anyway, I really admire his confidence and calmness onstage. His voice is not as consistent as in earlier weeks, but he’s more and more relaxed on stage. The way he talks with producers judges is very comfortable. In the “I told you so” duet, he is surely calmer and more professional than Laurent, who gets a good voice but seems quite nervous.

  • pottymouth

    Season 7 had a pretty good cast of characters. WGWG(I guess you could call him that??? I always thought he was suppose to the rocker??) won, but Archie who is ???was runner up and a black female came in 3rd and a Columbian male came in 4th. I always thought the girls that season were all pretty good.I think that was the season that had the boy\girl\boy\girl elimination thing going on. It made it kinda interesting.
    I really don’t care who wins anyway. If I like them I will continue to follow them post-idol no matter what place they finish.
    Just for the record, I think that Haley chick is probably the most marketable. She’s got the spit and grit to make it. She has a wild- *ss sound!

  • ray1

    All this racist talk is just talk IMO….look at the census facts of the US and see the breakdown of population and I think based on % numbers of races in America it is quite fair and it is based on talent when comes to vote….based on numbers of population IF American voters were racist, there would be nothing but whites on the show from beginning to end based by population of race alone-just by pure numbers…end of case, please!

    White persons, , percent, 2009 (a) 79.6%
    Black persons, 2009 (a) 12.9%
    American Indian and Alaska Native persons, (a) 1.0%
    Asian persons, 4.6%
    Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander persons (a) 0.2%
    Persons reporting two or more races, 1.7%Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, 15.8%
    White persons not Hispanic, 65.1%

  • schmozlo

    I don’t believe the people who’ve been eliminated so far says anything about any racist tendencies in America. To claim racism would be a stretch.

    After all, didn’t Ruben, Fantasia and Jordin Sparks win their seasons? Indeed they did. America hasn’t taken a racist turn since season Six. So, what happened?

    What happened is that American Idol has grown old. The majority of the audience is most likely female, white and young. And the vast majority of the power voters are white, female and young.

    Many of young, white female power voters tend to power vote for cute white guys with guitars. So, you end up with Cook, Allen and Dewyze and McCreery.

    It’s the tv audience that explains what’s happening, not racism or sexism.

  • Marie Ruffin

    What happened is that American Idol has grown old. The majority of the audience is most likely female, white and young. And the vast majority of the power voters are white, female and young.

    Many of young, white female power voters tend to power vote for cute white guys with guitars. So, you end up with Cook, Allen and Dewyze and McCreery.

    It’s the tv audience that explains what’s happening, not racism or sexism.

    Totally agree. The people who vote (I repeat) and it’s been proven, are older (white) women and their teen daughters. Men/boyz don’t vote!

    But Idol’s history is that women are the leaders in CD sales, not the boys. The women alums are the stars (making movies, commercials, winning grammys).

    Who among the boys would YOU pay to see in concert for one hour?

  • bean99

    I know I’ve been seeing Pia’s white parents for a while but still for some reason thought she was Hispanic. :) I guess It’s her name and darker complexion but now that I know her last name think she’s probably Italian.

    I wasn’t surprised to see Naima and Thia go home last night and was thinking that perhaps they’ve been near the bottom in votes in recent weeks and that’s why all of a sudden they were promoting Haley. I’m sure they’re not pleased about so many girls going on what was to be a “girl’s season” and don’t want one to go in the next couple of weeks.

    I agree with those who think that was Casey’s physician and not shrink. Poor guy. It made me feel bad for him. Ryan made it sound like he was the top vote getter which may have been the big surprise if they’d actually said it.

    I liked the way they had everyone perform but agree with Mj that I want pointy pose back. My favorites last night were Scotty and Lauren. With the girls’ song I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t give poor Thia a solo when she was going home.

  • Marie Ruffin

    Going forward, besides Lauren, there’s no one I’m interested in rooting for or even listening to. I turn away when Paul and Jacob are on. Stefano is turning out to be a lounge crooner. James? maybe. Scotty — hell to the no. And whenever I see Casey, I see heart attack.

    Q about Casey: Will the doctor travel with him?

  • springboard

    But they didn’t cast him because this is a “girl season”. Same thing for Colton Dixon, they didn’t cast him because he was too cute and a threat to the girls lol.

    Yes, this is a girl season, and it is not luck that the guys are either not very cute or somehow limited.

    The theory that females can’t win anymore implies that females vote for male and vice-versa, and more females than males vote.
    Now, with three girls v six guys left, the vote for girls will be concentrated on few compared to the votes for boys.
    This is what they tried to achieved last year, but they failed miserably for various reasons, one of them being that Ken Warwick isn’t nearly as good as a producer as Nigel.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Kris Allen, Katie Stevens, Andrew Garcia, and Randy Jackson from tonight’s American Idol 10 Top11 Results Show.

    http://twitpic.com/4fk4ss

  • halo9125

    I didn’t see the least amount of emotion or connection or even interesting phrasing. Scotty and Lauren seem like they’re play-acting to me. There’s no depth there.

    I actually liked their performance when I first saw it last night. On second viewing- not so much. The play-acting comment is spot on, and I think this is what I don’t like about either of them- their youth and lack of life experience affects their performances – neither of them have been on this earth long enough to make any sort of emotional connection to their music, and ultimately, this will hurt them both.

  • tripp_ncwy
  • karenc

    Cookcricket

    Someone may have already said this, but really it’s all about identity. Karen was on the right track, having an identity, but she missed it because it wasn’t current.Identity has played a strong roll in idol since season 4. Carrie Underwood knew and knows who she is, Taylor Hicks, check, Jordin, not so much, but then this wasn’t a stand out season and she’s seemed to find her place since. She was pliable and I think AI knew it. David Cook, check, Kris Allen, check, Crystal knew and knows who she is, but she wasn’t pliable like Jordin and couldn’t be a pop singer so she just missed the mark. I still believe in some ways AI thought they could make Lee what they wanted so they pushed him.We, as a viewing audience are drawn to those who have a strong, firm identity.

    I think the same thing, and I would add Daughtry and Adam to this, too. The ones that really knew who they were the ones that did well after the show. I think part of the difference for who’s more successful is popularity of the genre they are in, also. Daughtry and David Cook and Carrie Underwood were in a much more popular genre, than say, Karen or Naima is.

  • MaryS-NJ

    Who among the boys would YOU pay to see in concert for one hour?

    If Paul got his surgery to save his voice, I might pay to go see him play with his own band. The rest of these contestants? Not interested, at least not yet. I like Naima and think she’s going to be one who shows a lot more in a normal concert format instead of the overbearing presence of Jimmy Iovine and 90 second Idol-length songs.

    I’ve seen three Idol tours and there are always some who I can’t figure out why the judges love them so much, and then seeing them live with the freedom to perform full length songs in their own style, they are so much better, (see: Giraud, Matt).

    I surely hope that Scotty and Pia show that they can entertain as well as sing because, I think they are likely 1 and 2 this season, and I don’t think it’s going to play as well live in the Idol tour format if every song is the same ballad, performed standing in one place.

    That reminds me, I didn’t watch season 3 of Idol but Fantasia is a helluva show-woman and I like her voice. That was a pretty electrifying performance and I hope the class of 2011 is taking notes.

  • hcpoirot

    I for one did not think that the voters are racist. We know that casey is out last week.

    THe reason they are out :
    a. 4 out of 5 (beside Karen) Ashton, Casey, Naima and THia got to sing earlier in the show.

    b. They all did not do a very amazing job to save themselves. Yes THia is quite good this week, but her so boring performances since SF round catch up.

  • J9BT

    Maybe now Naima’s votes will go to Paul so he may stay out of the bottom for a while?

    Of the 3 voting phones in my household, one was for Naima, one was for James & Jacob and the third was for Haley & Casey (my daughter’s phone who would also be dialing for Scotty but given his wide lead was left off this week).

    I can absolutely tell you that the phone dedicated to Naima WILL NOT be going to Paul. All 3 voters in my house wanted him to go last night instead of Naima.

  • Mary102

    Yeah, that result was definitely not shocking, in fact, that’s who I predicted to go home, so woo-hoo pool points! Paul in the bottom was also not surprising, though oddly enough I actually thought he was really good this week, and I usually don’t like him.

    It’s becoming a bit easier to see how the rest of the group will pan out, elimination wise. I basically see Paul, Jacob, Stefano, and Haley as the bottom half of the top 9, and James, Casey (mainly because of “save/personality” points), Pia, Lauren and Scotty in the top 5.

    Stefano saved himself this week by getting some more power voting after last week’s bottom 2 appearance, but I think his welcome is wearing thin, especially if he keeps laying on the cheese.

    As for the rest of last night – the duet/trio, etc idea was interesting. Lauren and Scotty did really well, the last two larger groups however suffered from bad blending with such different voices in the mix.

    However, even with the best of them, I got bored quickly. So I guess I’m split. It might be good to throw those groups into the mix every now and then, but also go back to the group numbers – at least they were breezy, cheesy fun.

  • J9BT

    Wubba1973 says:
    04/01/2011 at 3:09 am
    I am White and American idol is racist this season

    Which part of IDOL do you think is racist? Because all of the producer edits, Iovine & judge comments are part of IDOL, along with the voting public.

    I’m white and have voted for Naima and Jacob every week (plus James). Personally I found Ashthon, Karen and Thia’s performances totally boring compared to the others. IMO Naima’s were interesting, but I do agree she didn’t pull all aspects of her performance together in any one performance despite my liking all of them.

  • Mary102

    Oh, and I have to comment of course on the gender disparity. I think that is unfortunate. I wasn’t surprised the girls got eliminated first, because this year, just like with S8, I could see way back at Top 24 that the guys were overall stronger and more interesting.

    The girls this year especially just didn’t have enough personality or umph to match the guys. I think Naima was the most interesting, but she was very sloppy at times too. Even the girls who are left have gaping flaws – Pia is perfect but dull, Lauren’s personality and immaturity grate, and Haley is, like Naima, a little too sloppy at times.

    So in that respect I do blame the casting once again. Great diverse group this year, but still falling short of casting the right female singers. 90s ballad singers are not what we’re looking for. I think I said before that ideally they should have been looking for a female Adam-type – and some had mentioned that a combination of Naima’s originality and showmanship with Pia’s voice and control would be ideal. Oh well. Not so easy to find, of course, lol.

    I do think a guy will win this year, unless Pia can pull out enough surprises at just the right times in the later weeks of the competition. I can see a Pia/Scotty finale – which I think will be close, so who knows.

    One last comment – I really hate the save this year even more now though, because of the gender disparity. Casey is never gonna win, and he hasn’t been that strong recently. If he sings slow songs his vocal flaws become GLARINGLY obvious, and if he sings crazy songs he’s, well, a little too crazy. So essentially we had 4 girls eliminated first and the 1 guy eliminated saved.

    For a show that has now had, 3 guy winners in a row, only 1 woman in the finals for the last 3 years, and only 3 women in the top 10 for the last 2 years, I had hoped for better this year.

  • Mary102

    Who among the boys would YOU pay to see in concert for one hour?

    TBH – despite their success, I find most of the successful women off AI to be quite boring. I would likely never see Carrie, Jordin, Tasia, JHud, in concert. I would see Kelly, probably. I’d easily see a bunch of the guys first. Daughtry, Cook, Adam.

    To me, regardless of sales or how many surfer movies or weight watchers commercials the guys haven’t made post-AI, I just find them way more interesting.

    If Pia wins, she’ll be following in that tradition of kinda bland, pretty, talented AI female winners.

  • calimari

    Well, I’m disappointed that Naima is gone before getting to pull off one really dynamic performance, but I’m glad Stefano and Paul have another chance. I guess I would have nixed Haley before Naima, and that would have helped balance the “color” issue a bit.

    I thought Fantasia’s dress fit her poorly. It was all runched up under the arms. I still remember her performance from a couple years back & Simon’s “WTF?” look on his face – LOL.

    I think Stefano should pull out the keyboards next week. I didn’t know he played an instrument at all, and I think that could help him out.

  • Allison

    Seems that once upon a time most of the top contestants & front runners were black or of mixed race: Justin Guarini, Ruben Studdard, Kimberley Locke, Fantasia, Latoya London, J Hud, Jordin Sparks, Lakisha Jones.
    In fact going back to the Season two idol tour, 3 of the 4 guys on tour were black, as were 2 of the 5 girls.
    I don’t think the audience is racist.
    Music has changed a lot since then. I used to turn on my AC radio station and hear Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross, but now I don’t. Whoever is in charge of Idol auditions seem to think we still do hear that type of singer and still want to hear newer versions of them. Since Idol continues to cast black singers in “old fashioned” styles we are not going to vote for them. Cast better and we will vote for them.

    I voted for Naima every week because I liked that she was exciting and different. But she definitely needs a lot of polish, which is a valid reason people might not have voted for her. I think she can really be successful during and after the tour.

  • MayMirabella

    I’m white and have voted for Naima and Jacob every week (plus James

    Me too !!! I like all 3 of them a lot.

    I was hoping for Deandre in the top 24. He was the young, attractive African American teen who was a standout with that young group of kids ( with the stage mothers coaching them ). I think he would have received a lot of votes and he had the cute boy thing going too. Plus the kid could really sing and I still think he would be more interesting than some of them selected for the top 24.

  • MayMirabella

    One last comment – I really hate the save this year even more now though, because of the gender disparity. Casey is never gonna win, and he hasn’t been that strong recently. If he sings slow songs his vocal flaws become GLARINGLY obvious, and if he sings crazy songs he’s, well, a little too crazy. So essentially we had 4 girls eliminated first and the 1 guy eliminated saved.For a show that has now had, 3 guy winners in a row, only 1 woman in the finals for the last 3 years, and only 3 women in the top 10 for the last 2 years, I had hoped for better this year.

    I am in full agreement with Mary. I do think the producers and judges have to do a better job with the casting of the girls and do a better job with that in order for women to get further on this show and not always be the first eliminated ..like 4 in a row that has been happening on this show for a few years now.And that save of Casey paved the way for 2 girls leaving this week. The top 11 was still going on tour, why save Casey ?I think the judges were hoping Ashton would be a Rihanna type, do a better job of song selection, and be the contemporary African American woman who is doing well on the charts. I think part of the problem was the top 24 selection process as there might have been better choices for some of the girls. As we do not see some of the contestants who audition and we have seen some audition and are surprised they got cut in Hollywood. I still think some aer slipping through the cracks. Remember Angela Martin who tried out several seasons in a row and she would always get cut before the top 24? And there are a few others that were shocking cuts. Remember the contestants all being shocked with this Lakisha was cut this year? She was the heavy set AA woman , now perhaps the judges thought she would not get the votes due to her size or the producers did ….but I have read where some of the contestants were shocked she was cut early..I think Kendra mentioned it in a post interview. ? But Mandisa did fairly well on this show and her song selection got her cut but in the top 12 and it was not about her weight.

  • artemis

    I enjoyed last nights duets & small groups so much better than the group numbers, which are something most of the contestants would never do in their performing careers. Nigel is doing a great job this year making the show fresh and entertaining.
    I still like Season 9’s cast better. I loved their Idol Tour show-there wasn’t a clinker in the bunch-all were excellent and got a great response from the audience.
    I’d love to see Paul with the Grand Magnolias and I would go to see Haley. That’s all. They all have good voices-but that’s the case every year. They just don’t appeal to me and that’s a matter of individual taste.
    ETA I wish they had cast Deandre and Colton this year and agree that they were cut because TPTB are pushing for a girl to win.

  • MayMirabella

    YES. Deandre PLEASE come back.

    So glad people still remember him. I really wish Lauren Turner could come back, and Kendra Chantelle too

    Yes and also I think Genius mentioned 2 other names who I would like to see return: Jerome Bell and Aaron Sanders among several others who did not make top 24.

    Sadly, I do not think Lauren T or Kendra can return as they made top 24. One someone makes the semifinals and sings for votes, they cannot return. However those who do not make top 24 can return. Didn’t Pia get cut in a previous season before the Top 24? I know she auditioned before as did Rachel Zevita.
    But I am fairly sure PIA almost made it before ..it was like season 6 or 7 but got cut before Green Mile.

  • MaryS-NJ

    Since I’ve been watching American Idol:

    Season 5 – Top 5: 4 white men, 1 white woman
    Season 6 – Top 5/6: 3 white men, 3 AA women
    Season 7 – Top 5: 3 men (2 white, 1 Latino), 2 women (1 white, 1 Latina)
    Season 8 – Top 5: 4 men (2 white, 1 bi-racial, 1 Latino), 1 Latina woman
    Season 9 – top 5: 4 men (3 white, 1 AA), 1 white woman

    Of 9 winners, 3 have been African-American and only 3 have not come from a “Southern” state.

    Demographically, season 6 appears to be an outlier with 50% male/female and white/AA ratio, and a non-Southern winner (AZ is really a “Western” state).

    I don’t think people vote against contestants for being of a particular ethnicity or sex, but I do think people vote for contestants they can identifty with, relate to, find crush-worthy and/or perform in a particular genre of music that appeals to them. All this says to me is that there are a lot of voters who favor male personalities that perform in a certain kind of genre (pop/rock, folk, country).

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    One last comment – I really hate the save this year even more now though, because of the gender disparity. Casey is never gonna win, and he hasn’t been that strong recently. If he sings slow songs his vocal flaws become GLARINGLY obvious, and if he sings crazy songs he’s, well, a little too crazy. So essentially we had 4 girls eliminated first and the 1 guy eliminated saved.

    Yep, that’s what bothers me. 4 girls were eliminated and one guy was saved and that guy didn’t even deserve to be saved. For the third year in a row the save was used on a guy. Like the girls are not worth saving?

    I also don’t agree that male talent is stronger this year. The only guy worth listening to in TOP 13 is Scott. Also, last year female talent was also stronger. In season 8 it was pretty even (Adam was the only obvious male standout), but the semifinal system ensured there were more males in TOP 13.

    I already checked out of this season. I just want it to end already, I’m done with it. Scott and Lauren are the only acceptable candidates to win the whole thing.

  • tierbee

    I am White and American idol is racist this season

    Who is “American Idol” the racist? The producers? Everyone? The voters?

    Yep, that’s what bothers me. 4 girls were eliminated and one guy was saved and that guy didn’t even deserve to be saved.

    Ah, but that’s entirely subjective. Because a whole lot of people think that Casey DID deserve to be saved, including me. Plus that was some damn good teevee. Best results show I ever watched. Casey is one of my favorites so I would’ve been really bummed to see him gone, especially losing Naima who is another of my favorites (because save or no save, she was going soon, I think).

  • tinawina

    I don’t believe the people who’ve been eliminated so far says anything about any racist tendencies in America. To claim racism would be a stretch.

    What happened is that American Idol has grown old. The majority of the audience is most likely female, white and young. And the vast majority of the power voters are white, female and young.Many of young, white female power voters tend to power vote for cute white guys with guitars. So, you end up with Cook, Allen and Dewyze and McCreery.

    Huh? So America is not racist, its just that white women only vote for white men? Is that really what you are trying to say? LOL

    I don’t think its that simple IMO. A lot of things come into play – including bad song choices, pimpage, and iffy performances. But I do think race (and culture) plays a factor, in the sense that the more people in the audience that feel familiar and comfortable with what you do, the more they can relate to you and the more that can give you a pass. So a Paul feels more familiar to more people, he’s easier to believe in, so he gets more room to be mediocre for longer than a Naima, on average. If large chunks of the audience own CDs from guys like Paul, he is easier to relate to for more people. And gender may come into play in a similar way, the male musician mystique can help some contestants be seen as “artists” while others have a harder time getting that kind of pass. Its not impossible, but it is harder.

    That’s not the same thing as saying the audience is racist or sexist to me. Its not like people are saying “I hate women” or “I hate minorities” and voting accordingly. There are plenty of women and minorities selling lots of records to the same demo that votes, but as has been said, those types of people have not been getting cast on the show lately. So what we get are people who are out of the mainstream in some way and not getting voted to the top because they are not familiar to the voting audience and not outstanding enough to overcome the unfamiliarity.

    But, saying that “mainstream” means something that is not race, culture or gender neutral to me is a statement of fact, not an accusation of outright racism.

  • CindyM

    i just think its sad that the women have to be amazing to get a break it seems. Guys seem to get more passes for meh performances, but if a women has one, theyre usually gone pretty quick. i think we saw that last year,

    BTW, whos the latino man in Season 8 top 5?

  • justshootme

    Add me to the anti-save list. I thought the whole point of the thing was to save a Daughtry, not a Hicks. Still don’t get the Casey love.

    Naima was my girl. If I throw anyone any votes from this point on, it’ll be one of the girls, most likely Haley first choice. The only way a guy will get my vote is if the final is two guys, one of them Scotty, and Scotty’s got my vote. I’d like a Pia/Haley/Lauren/Scotty final four. I’m hoping the next 5 eliminations are the rest of the guys. Unlikely, I know.

  • MaryS-NJ

    BTW, whos the latino man in Season 8 top 5?

    David Archuleta.

  • tierbee

    But I do think race (and culture) plays a factor, in the sense that the more people in the audience that feel familiar and comfortable with what you do, the more they can relate to you and the more that can give you a pass.

    Right, I agree, I think people vote for what is familiar/comfortable/safe for sure. And if most of the voting audience is white, it’s not a shock that they continue to vote for non-polarizing white performers. Look what happened to Casey even as a white guy when he went “out there” for a couple weeks… “Safe Casey” has a much better chance of staying in longer.

    Or what you said, which I totally agree with:

    So what we get are people who are out of the mainstream in some way and not getting voted to the top because they are not familiar to the voting audience and not outstanding enough to overcome the unfamiliarity.

  • CindyM

    David Archuleta was Season 7.

  • Allison

    MaryS-NJ says:
    04/01/2011 at 10:14 am

    Since I’ve been watching American Idol:

    Season 5 – Top 5: 4 white men, 1 white woman

    You are wrong on that. Paris Bennett was 5th place, so that’s 3 white men, 1 white woman and 1 black woman.

  • bmms

    The small group performances sprinkled in between the results was a cool idea. However…maybe I’m in the minority, but I just hope the group numbers haven’t been abandoned entirely. Some things should never change, and the big cheesy group number is one of those things.

    LOVED the small group performances too MJ! Very refreshing and I also agree with you about the group numbers. Don’t entirely obliterate them AI!

  • Reflections On Life

    Season 5 – Top 5: 4 white men, 1 white woman
    Season 6 – Top 5/6: 3 white men, 3 AA women
    Season 7 – Top 5: 3 men (2 white, 1 Latino), 2 women (1 white, 1 Latina)
    Season 8 – Top 5: 4 men (2 white, 1 bi-racial, 1 Latino), 1 Latina woman
    Season 9 – top 5: 4 men (3 white, 1 AA), 1 white woman

    I thought Season 8’s top 5 was 4 white guys and 1 Latina. Who was Latino? Who was “bi-racial”? And which 2 races were involved in making that person bi-racial?

    If using the term bi-racial, then Season 6’s winner Jordin is bi-racial, not AA.

    I personally think America overall has a thin skin when it comes to suggestions of racism. We get easily offended and defensive whenever someone suggests it. Truth is, racism and all sorts of “isms” exist in every country, with different manifestations due to each countries history and makeup. There’s no harm in admitting that the USA is no exception.

    In the AI world, as IRL, racism permeates everyone, not just the voters but also the producers and judges who cast the show. This could manifest as putting people in racial boxes, like casting maybe only looking at r&b AAs and not pop/rock AAs, or in many other ways.

    I think the general rule of thumb in the USA is that if you are perceived as excellent, you will excell regardless of race or gender. But if you are perceived as mediocre, or if you are in an even playing field, your race or gender will work against you. So as the old saying goes for females & minorities, you have to be “better than the best” in order to be perceived as equal.

    This is at least better than in many countries, where even being excellent doesn’t buy you anything if you are in female or minority.

    I think when you see the only 4 minority females be the first to be eliminated, and the only white male saved, it should be cause for concern, esp when there were other mediocre white men in the bunch.

    Conventional wisdom would say that mediocre/polarizing minority males and mediocre/polarizing white women would be next before any mediocre white men go. That’d point to haley & jacob, arguably. But Jacob’s never been in the bottom 3 (correct?). But that might now change because the bottom 3 regulars are mostly gone. And though Haley has, she’s starting an upward arc. Furthermore, both Casey & Paul have landed in the bottom 3, and both have turned in more poor live performances than good ones, and even their good ones are considered average by many. I think Casey & Paul are vote-splitting also. Stefano is essentially a minority for middle america purposes due to his name & his Italian heritage. While that’d hold for Pia too, so far she proven her vocal chops, if not yet her performance skills.

    So while I would have considered Haley, Jacob, and Stefano the next up on the chopping block due to racism/misogynistic considerations, I think Casey/Paul vote-splitting, prev B3 visits, and poor performances throws a monkey wrench into the mix.

    At this point, only Pia is safe, with Scotty, James, and Lauren following close behind.

  • Allison

    Stefano is essentially a minority for middle america purposes due to his name & his Italian heritage. While that’d hold for Pia too

    I don’t agree at all! Casey’s Jewish – so he’s a minority too?

  • Reflections On Life

    If Casey had a more obviously-sounding Jewish name, yes. Similarly, if Stefano were Steven, this would de-minoritize him. I’m not saying this is true for everyone, or even for me or for you, but USA has a long history of considering Jews, Irish, Italians, Portuguese, Polish, Russians, and other Eastern Europeans as being minorities despite being Caucasian. The term WASP used to be used to exclude these folks. Its only in the last half century or so that these folks have been accepted into the mainstream. Much of America is still affected by these classifications. They see the name Stefano as foreign. And absolutely, USA has a rich history of anti-semitism, but Jews are often “hidden minorities” if they have anglo-saxon names & looks, as Casey seems to. But for many ppl (certainly not all), knowing Casey is Jewish would affect if or when they vote for him.

  • Landmd

    Scotty, Lauren, or Pia. Do you really want an album by any of these people?I wouldn’t watch them perform at an amusement park let alone buy an album of theirs. Hell, I wouldn’t even illegally download any of their songs.

    ITA. Im just not a country fan so that leaves Pia in your list. If she wins I see her as the next Susan Boyle type singer. Which is not a bad thing, since SuBo sells are great. Just like Pia I find SuBo boring.
    I would buy/see Haley, Paul, James, Casey depending on what type of music they end up doing. Would love to see Haley in the top 3 atleast. She is the only female left that I would like to see win. I miss Kendra and Lauren T.

  • bentley1530

    CindyM says:

    i just think its sad that the women have to be amazing to get a break it seems. Guys seem to get more passes for meh performances, but if a women has one, theyre usually gone pretty quick. i think we saw that last year,

    This reminds me of a recent radio discussion about women in music and the comment was made that women are rarely allowed to have interesting, unusual voices while men can have harsh, even ugly voices and still be popular.

  • Lisa

    Sorry I am not buying the Amercian Idol racial card. Do you remember Reuben? Fantasia? I was broken hearted when Melinda went home but even I knew her time was up. Melinda has mad mad skills but her season there were two others with a bit more of the ‘it’ factor. That in the end is what it boils down to.

    Karen’s gone…um sorry to upset, there was nothing to her. She was ‘ok’ but nothing special.

    Thia….pageant girl who smiled at me through Daniel. Beautiful voice no extra spark of wow.

    Niama….First of all she was pretty abrasive in the things she said in her interviews. Color matters not when you think your stuff does not stink. I thought she had a great voice myself and I would have kicked Paul to the curb over her. At least she can sing. Her problem was in her delivery & I am a firm believe she hurt herself in some of her comments. Home viewers love humble pie…..

    Jacob who I think has the best voice this season besides Scotty is in jeopardy next. Not because he is of ‘color’, but because he will not reign in the theatrics. (see Adam who was my fave, but I watched too many get tired of the same)…. I was so hoping Jacob could immediately go study Marvin Gaye and learn a little holding back. If he could control that and put a little Marvin to his songs, I think he might go all the way.

    It’s not the audience who has a racial problem. It’s the contestants were not standouts, while others have been (Paul I do not get, why is he here???) While Paul who is almost off key more than on is not the ‘best’ singer he does remind one of Rod Stewart and that gives him that little extra something (see Jacob/Marvin ref, or even Scotty/Garth Brooks)

    I don’t know what Idol looks for. Each year they look for something different. IMHO this year they wanted a double gold which they will get with Scotty. Their first country male singer and teen to boot. The country listeners will buy anything this boy makes in a snap. I see him on their awards very very soon. There is alot of $$$ in country & Idol has barely tapped it.

    We ask ourselves each year why so and so who was clearly a better singer never made it past auditions or hollywood. My personal opinion is that each year the producers choose one type of singer they are looking for. The others that fill out the rest of the top 16 or so are good singers but you might only have 2 or 3 that could emerge with that little extra ‘it’. I think it is planned this way. They are merely what we used to call cannon fodder.

    It’s up to the producers (I don’t believe for a second it’s the judges) to put through any of color that has that extra ‘it’.

  • Landmd

    This reminds me of a recent radio discussion about women in music and the comment was made that women are rarely allowed to have interesting, unusual voices while men can have harsh, even ugly voices and still be popular.

    Haley Haley Haley!!!! It seems alot here do not care for her unusual voice!

  • Lisa

    Oh can I do a P.S.?

    Girl vs Boy is simple. More women, young girls watch idol. You put a cute boy in the mix that has that extra spark & pretty much know he has it beat.

    I also think the American viewing audience loves them some homey folk singer types, so any male in this genre will take it over any female in this genre because of the fact there are more women/girls that vote then males.

    The viewing audience is bored with ballads but not quite ready for funky.

  • Lisa

    Landmd, I like Haley alot. I am one of the minority that love her growl and I think she could very well turn into a dark horse. Her singing is pretty much spot on. The flip side is, she reminds me of Thia in the smiling constantly. I think she is trying sooo hard to not come off as snippy or anything like it that is why she turns on the brilliant smile. I wish she would close all that out, and simply sing from her heart and forget everyone is watching. Really feel the song, she sure has the pipes to sing anything. I prefer her over Pia. I think she could possibly blow everyone away with a heartfelt non-smiley performance.

  • CindyM

    And James hasn’t been “theatrical”?? He hasn’t had a restrained performance yet and nothing could beat the theatrics and props he had on Wednesday night. Jacob is theatrical in his delivery, but from comments I’ve read here and other places and “queen” being thrown around, its more Simon’s use of the word as code for a lil’ bit gay.

    I’d also believe that there was no racial element if I hadn’t read things like Karen, this is American Idol not Latin idol as if Latinos aren’t American.

  • Lisa

    CindyM, I mentioned Karen because someone previous had.

    James is theatrical, but I do not watch James, he is not my type although Adam was my pick in his season, go figure. Melinda was my pick in her season, same for Kelly, Fantasia, Rebeun, Taylor, David, Carrie. For ‘me’ they had that little extra. (I don’t see James winning, while I think Jacob has a chance)

    Jacob I do like and would love to see him get alot further, I just don’t think he will oversinging it.

  • Landmd

    Landmd, I like Haley alot. I am one of the minority that love her growl and I think she could very well turn into a dark horse. Her singing is pretty much spot on. The flip side is, she reminds me of Thia in the smiling constantly. I think she is trying sooo hard to not come off as snippy or anything like it that is why she turns on the brilliant smile. I wish she would close all that out, and simply sing from her heart and forget everyone is watching. Really feel the song, she sure has the pipes to sing anything. I prefer her over Pia. I think she could possibly blow everyone away with a heartfelt non-smiley performance.

    I agree. Some good advice for Haley!

  • Cari

    Is there any Idol series around the world – French, Australian, Canadian, German, etc – where more females have won than males? Or where the majority of winners were not white? I doubt it.

  • tomr

    Can we put the race issue and the “save” to rest? Doesn’t anyone get it that the judges (who had the power to use the save) are two thirds minorities. They used it on a Jewish boy…so what. naima and Thia didn’t deserve to go on and Thia had no chance for a “save” anyway. Niama…perhaps since she is Steven’s love child. Not sure randy or Jennifer would have made that save unanimous. Still think they used it too early but happy for Casey to be the recepient. I’m sure they know ahead of time which of the finalists they would use it for and Casey was lucky enough to be on that list.

  • http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/303318/jimmy_boyd.html jimmyboyd2

    Some of these comments are so off the mark it’s comical, while some are getting close to the truth.

    It’s not racism or sexism, people. The problem is Idol producers continually screw up the casting on the female side.

    Naima and Ashthon NEVER deserved a spot. Their lack of popularity was a foregone conclusion. Instead, that girl Lakeisha should have been picked. She’s wayyy better. This will continue to happen as long as Idol casts females for something other than SINGING talent.

    And to make matters worse, they don’t do a good-enough job of promoting the best females. Lauren Turner was BY FAR the best female singer this year, but she wasn’t cast/portrayed as a favorite. No, she may not have the personality or looks to win, but she could have gone far if portrayed accurately instead of getting the backseat treatment.

    Kendra also deserved a spot in the wildcard, and everyone watching knows it. Remember, though, she was hardly shown at all up to the semifinals, so it’s no surprise that she did not get the votes. More horrible editing.

    From the beginning of the show (the first auditions onward), they need to FEATURE the best females and TELL THE AUDIENCE who they are. In essence, those females NEED pimping. In reality, Lauren is the ONLY deserving girl who received that treatment, with Pia getting a little bit of it, as well. So is it any surprise they are still there? Nope.

    Conversely, Karen, who is boring as dishwater, never stood a chance. Yet, she was inexplicably featured in almost every round. Naima, who can’t even sing on pitch, was also featured pretty heavily. And if they were going to let Julie Zorrilla make perhaps the worst song choice in the history of American Idol in the semis, why feature her EVERY audition round?

    The fault is not the voting audience. It is the horrible editing and non-talent-based pimping (to include poor casting) on the female side by the producers that is producing this result.

  • Valentin432

    Is there any Idol series around the world – French, Australian, Canadian, German, etc – where more females have won than males? Or where the majority of winners were not white? I doubt it.

    There were 45 type of idol shows.

    Armenian, Bulgarian, Estonian, Pinoy, Serbian, Slovakian and Vietnamese Idol have more female than male winner.
    The rest is either even or more male dominated.

    The overall number is 104 men and 59 women.

  • Valentin432

    It’s not racism or sexism, people. The problem is Idol producers continually screw up the casting on the female side.

    That’s an old tired excuse. Producers have casted every type of female on these shows. The voting audience is the problem.

    And to make matters worse, they don’t do a good-enough job of promoting the best females. Lauren Turner was BY FAR the best female singer this year, but she wasn’t cast/portrayed as a favorite. No, she may not have the personality or looks to win, but she could have gone far if portrayed accurately instead of getting the backseat treatment.

    Lauren Turner got camera time. People just didn’t got excited about her neither on HW or Las Vegas. Instead Colton Dixon got 5 seconds of footage and everyone was buzzing about him.

    Lauren got praised to high heavens in the semifinals and didn’t get through agains 5 girls 2 of which have been already eliminated and another one who has already been twice in the B3.

  • Allison

    Mindy Doo – how could I have forgotten to list her in the pantheon of top females of color? She had that old school vibe and she went to #3. Certainly America voted her that far.

    As for Lauren Turner – big mistake not letting her in. She could have been America’s answer to Amy Winehouse or Adele. I’d have swapped her for Thia or Ashthon any day.

  • http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/303318/jimmy_boyd.html jimmyboyd2

    That’s an old tired excuse. Producers have casted every type of female on these shows. The voting audience is the problem.

    No, your excuse is the old one. Casting by TYPE is part of the problem. not part of the solution. We don’t need dancers who can’t sing or divas like Ashthon who can’t sing like a diva. Did you even read my post? I said they need to 1) cast based on TALENT (not type); and 2) adequately pimp those talented females.

    LOL at even suggesting Naima or Ashthon are adequate replacements for real talent like Lakeisha.NO, Lauren Turner was not featured and was not given the A-plus treatment like the other Lauren. LOL at that suggestion. She was given very short clips, nothing close to anything portraying her as a favorite. Compare to Casey or Scotty, whose treatment no one could confuse as anything but A-plus pimping.

    Re: Colton Dixon. I didn’t say there is 0% bias. You seem to read a lot of things into posts that people don’t actually write. Feel free to imply that I’m not speaking in terms of 100% absolutes (you know, the way every other reasonable human being does it). Some people (and many of them male) are going to naturally get more votes than others based on image and other factors (yes, including hormonal factors). But that’s no excuse for the show to do a horrible job of casting TALENT (not type, LOL) on the female side and adequately portraying and editing them as a favorite.

  • Valentin432

    LOL at even suggesting Naima or Ashthon are adequate replacements for real talent like Lakeisha

    Lakeisha had a contract and couldn’t take part in the competition.

    NO, Lauren Turner was not featured and was not given the A-plus treatment like the other Lauren. LOL at that suggestion.

    You have reading problems too.
    I never said that Lauren T got as much screentime as Lauren A. Lauren T was given grade A pimping in the semifinals, she was praised as highly as Thia, Lauren or Pia with one of the best performances of the night and she didn’t get pass Haley or Karen in the voting.

    But that’s no excuse for the show to do a horrible job of casting TALENT (not type, LOL) on the female side and adequately portraying and editing them as a favorite.

    There have been tons of female talent featured as contenders in this show.
    If it’s not your taste that’s your problem.

    What’s hilarious is that your complaining about them casting about type instead of talent
    That’s exactly the opposite of last year when people complained that the producers caste too many “similar women” and that was the reason at the time for Katelyn, Lilly or Didi being eliminated early.

    Always finding justification for the obvious bias in the votes.

  • Landmd

    jimmyboyd2 I agree with what you are saying about the edits for the girls. All this stuff is taped long before it is ever on our TVs. Heck even the final cut before the viewers vote is taped, they could do all that stuff before hand and show us more of the girls that are going to be in the top (whatever number).
    That love couples don’t recall their names atm, I wanted to throw my tv out the dang window every single time they showed them. They had to be the most annoying edits I have ever seen. They were the ones that were no longer a couple that was some bad tv.

  • poohbear

    It should have been Stefano and Paul to go.

  • MaryS-NJ

    I stand corrected. Season 5 – top 5: 3 wm, 1 ww and 1 aaw (how could I forget Paris?!)

    I thought Season 8?s top 5 was 4 white guys and 1 Latina. Who was Latino? Who was “bi-racial”? And which 2 races were involved in making that person bi-racial?

    Matt Giraud is biracial. Unless I misread, one of his parents is AA or biracial.

    For whoever asked up thread, Latino males: Jason Castro (S7), David Archuleta (S8). Maybe “Hispanic” is a more accurate term?

    But anyway… the point is, there is ethnic diversity in the Top 5, but males do better than females because those who vote tend to favor white males of a certain genre who can also play an instrument. Maybe its voting for the “fantasy boyfriend” or finding a guy more…motivating.

  • CindyM

    For whoever asked up thread, Latino males: Jason Castro (S7), David Archuleta (S8). Maybe “Hispanic” is a more accurate term

    I said it earlier, but David Archuleta was not in Season 8, he was in Season 7 with Jason Castro.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wiredva getwiredva

    Just think how good the girls would have been with Lauren Turner & Kendra Chantelle as the wildcards… kendra’s wildcard georgia may be the best performance of the season… her & haley are the only voices i would spend money on. Haley’s bluesy voice just wins me over every time. the producers had no intention though of casting 2 gorgeous blondes… not to mention lauren alaina, another pretty blonde…. yup, it’s all about casting, the voice was completely secondary for the wildcard picks…