Before American Idol,   Adam Lambert vocal was used for remixes for   “America’s Best Dance Crew.”   That’s the Randy Jackson produced dance competition show for MTV.

District 78 is the outfit that created the mixes.   Check them out HERE.   And read their good luck message to Adam HERE.

One of these mixes of Queen’s “We Are the Champions” made it to air:

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  • Mary

    He sounds amazingly like Freddie there, doesn’t he?

  • cay

    Adam sure has paid his dues in Hollywood. The guy has worked so hard at everything trying to get a break. I hope it all works out for him. I love a struggling artist finally makes it story. If that isn’t American, I don’t know what is.

    This is a hilarious utube of a guy talking about Adam in the bottom 2 and what the judges need to do to get vote for Adam. Really, really funny (if you like Adam)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-li7bAOHltE

  • Heart

    I had originally posted this video of Adam’s remix with the past 2 ABDC champs that was on the show (which I love) in the Headlines thread earlier:

    http://www.watchabdc.com/category/abdc/season-2/super-cr3w/

    To all those people who still aren’t sure if Adam is current, this is another example of “yes, he is!

    It’s fun to see all this preAI Adam stuff come out in the open! Hooray!

  • CCAdamFan

    Oh, this makes me *heart* Adam even more! I so hope he does a Queen song before the competition is over.

    Nice of District 78 to wish him luck. But Adam does not need luck, he needs phone-dialers.

  • elephant1212

    this makes me want him to sing queen……sigh.

    pretty please??

  • St.Lucia

    I just love hearing his take on Queen.

    And yes, Mary, I thought he sounded eeringly like Freddie Mercury.

    Oh how I would love him to do some vamped up version of a Queen son on Rock week this week…

  • soccerboi

    We are the Champion remixes…not We are the World…Right?

    Excellent though!

  • Heart

    An interesting TWOP post:

    I’m remembering a purported spoiler post on VFTW very early in the season (pre-Satisfaction) that listed the artists Adam had requested clearance for with respect to at least one of their songs. A lot of people, including me, blew the spoiler off as fake, but as it turns out one of the listed artists was Wild Cherry (who did PTFM). So thinking back, I’m inclined to give it some credence.

    According to the post, the other artists he had requested songs from were Queen, Aerosmith, Bowie, and Duran Duran. At the time of the post, he had gotten clearance on the Queen song he wanted and was waiting on the rest.

    Is this the week he is pulling out the Queen song? Is District 78′s remix a hint?

    If it is a Queen song by my favorite “queen”, I was hoping is would be Under Pressure, Who wants to Live Forever, Thing Called Love, Lover Boy… any of those!

  • SparklesATL

    I hate that stupid phrase “made my ears bleed.” It’s so 2005/2006.

    That being said, those remixes really made my ears bleed.

    The original, although lacking in Adam’s originality, is awesome.

    I would love for Adam to do some Journey or hope against hope, Stairway to Heaven. Hey, they could have him going up the staircase!

  • sweetie99v

    He sounds amazingly like Freddie there, doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he?

    Yes he does. Its like Adam is taking off where Freddie ended.

    Did Freddie Mercury get some of the same criticism that Adam gets now? comments such as polarizing, sounds like a girl, screeching, a man shouldn’t have a range like that, gender bender, etc.?

  • Hoppy

    *waits for screams of “PLANT!!!”*

    Wait… nothing yet? Amazing! (Or maybe people have finally become reasonable and realized that this group using Adam’s vocals likely have ZERO to do with Randy Jackson.)

    Aaaaanyway, nobody can touch Freddie for me… but Adam is still pretty damn amazing.

  • sweetnjoe

    We are the world? What fail…

    Isn’t this your full time job? Could you fail any MORE with a Queen song?

  • sweetie99v

    *waits for screams of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“PLANT!!!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ *

    Oh goodness……I didn’t think of that. If I hear or read ONE article or blog about Adam being a “plant” or some garbage like that I’m going to scream higher than Adam’s high notes…. LOL

  • Natasha

    He sounds amazingly like Freddie there, doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he?

    He does, yeah.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I had originally posted this video of Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s remix with the past 2 ABDC champs that was on the show (which I love) in the Headlines thread earlier:

    Beware of that site…popups that are difficult to close. Yikes. I didn’t even watch the videos…

    Is this the week he is pulling out the Queen song? Is District 78à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s remix a hint?

    Probably just a coincidence. But who knows, maybe Adam will perform some Queen.

  • weareallinnocent

    this makes me want him to sing queenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦sigh.

    This!

    Aaaaanyway, nobody can touch Freddie for meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    This was me, pre-Adam Lambert. Since him, I eat my words and tip my hat to Adam Lambert.

  • sweetnjoe

    Probably just a coincidence. But who knows, maybe Adam will perform some Queen.

    Yeah, jut like no one thought he would do “Feeling Good” last week, too, right, even though it was abundantly clear?

    LOL

  • sbalk017

    *waits for screams of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“PLANT!!!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ *

    Ha, that’s what I thought was going to happen! Wait ’till VFTW gets ahold of it…

    ETA: That was a really toned down verion of Glambert. I’ll never say this again, but I want to hear it with all the screeching and vocal gymnastics that he does so well.

  • holeighannie

    All the more reason to hope he does Queen this week! Or “Under Pressure” with Kris. :D

  • karenw

    Wow he really does kind of sound like a young Freddie on that .. pity they didn’t post the whole thing with none of their remixing clap trap.

  • EllieA

    Reason 7,534 why Adam stands out for me more than the rest of the contestants: I recognize that instantly as Adam singing. He’s just one of those vocalists who is so unique you know it’s him within seconds.

  • Tess

    I recognize that instantly as Adam singing.

    I’m glad you did…I hated that remix…not the voice just all the peripheral stuff….I guess I’m just way too old for dance clubs and dance remixes.

    Oh…and be careful opening that website showing the dances. Like MJ said…Those popups take you places you might not want to go.

  • hypertwink

    Veerrry Eeenteresting.

  • flynnsgirl

    Did Freddie Mercury get some of the same criticism that Adam gets now? comments such as polarizing, sounds like a girl, screeching, a man shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a range like that, gender bender, etc.?

    Because Queen started in England there was never any of that criticism. England and most of the rest of the world do not have the stick firmly stuck up their ass quite the way the Americans do.
    I’m old and when we got ourselves some Queen it was the best thing ever. Times were different too, music was all over the place. Everyone I knew understood that Freddy was gay and nobody cared, it wasn’t even a topic of conversation. When Freddy died it was a tragedy in the music world because that voice was extraordinary. Main stream music here in the last 10 years has become so homogenized.
    The gay issue is so hysterical. We were dancing our asses off to The Village People and Elton John and God knows who Madonna was sleeping with at the time. It didn’t matter AT ALL! I was lucky enough to go to Studio 54 (57?) Back in the day and I can tell you there was a VERY blurred line between straight and gay. It was the times I guess.
    Any of you younger people go get yourself a copy of the Woodstock CD or rent the movie. Hendrix wailing away on that guitar or Grace Slick, Santana or The Who. A half million people for three days, something that could never happen again. Yeah, I am an old hippy! LOL
    Now we have Adam, this amazing talent and we get polarizing, screeching. It makes me so sad to hear this. Maybe Adam is just to late to the party. Maybe he came about in a time where we have no real “performers” anymore except in Vegas. That crap that Jamie Foxx did on the show last week, that is what has become of actual music.
    I keep hearing things like “well, I couldn’t listen to that in my car” That’s what has happened to music. It’s all become “riding in my car music”. Pathetic.

  • bambambam

    Not a plant. The producers of the track with Adam’s vocal are an independent contractor that provides music services for TV and film projects, and Adam probably earned a one-time fee for voicing the track. He wouldn’t even be an employee of the track producers. No direct connection to Randy’s show.

  • cay

    ^^ Very insightful post. People do judge on if it is “riding in my car music”. I wonder at the lack of creativity today. People are so concerned that someone shouldn’t win if they don’t FIT in with today’s music……if they can’t compare them to someone NOW on the radio….all about conformity. It’s very sad to me.

    I think there are people that respect Adam’s talent, but they aren’t the regular Idol people. I can’t wait to see what he does.

  • karenw

    Coming from the UK and being a child of the late 60′s/70′s I can’t remember any backlash or hysteria about Freddie Mercury’s sexuality .. all I can remember is that him and the likes of Bowie were thought of as the coolest dudes on the planet .. I remember people being aware that they were gay/bisexual but that never seemed to be an issue and most of the guy’s in my school worshiped them and had their names and sketches of their album covers all over their school books.

    Of course it was the 70′s where the UK charts were dominated by glam rock performers so dressing a bit OTT or camp was pretty much the norm

  • http://idolthoughts.today.com/ foxydonna

    I love the Adam’s vocals on this track. He really gets it, and even though it was probably a contract job, he didn’t skimp!

    I really think there’s a place for Adam Lambert in today’s music industry. He’s totally legit and I don’t think he’ll have as many problems other Idols have had with being associated with the show. He’s obviously been at this for a while, and although Idol has given him a giant boost, he’s paid his dues. He’ll get more respect.

    I don’t think it’s exaggeration to say that Adam Lambert has the potential to be the biggest star this show has ever produced.

  • Skylark

    Hmmmmm…

  • idolrofan

    Main stream music here in the last 10 years has become so homogenized.

    This.

    Now we have Adam, this amazing talent and we get polarizing, screeching. It makes me so sad to hear this. Maybe Adam is just to late to the party.

    And this.

    I completely agree with this. I am really afraid that Adam–although an AMAZING talent–is not being accepted by the mainstream because he does not fit within the definition of what mainstream music has become. I think mainstream should have enough place for an Adam, AND a Kris AND an Allison, but nobody calls Kris or Allison “not current.” The musical world in the US right now may be at a place where the tastes do not include a powerful, high-voice male vocalist who puts on a show. It is so sad….

  • cay

    Adam was just doing grunt work….independent contract….no one probably even knew his name so I don’t think the word plant would even enter anyone’s mind. That little bit was sent over and the mixers played with it to come up with a dance track. Probably never even saw Adam. Adam did a lot of that general background grunt vocal work in Hollywood.

    He does sound wonderful.

    I don’t see how he’s not being accepted by the mainstream. He’s made it very far on Idol. People all over the internet who don’t watch or vote on Idol like him. He’s killing in itunes, google searches, twitter, etc. He’s not appealing to EVERYONE, but I think he’s appealing to enough. That gives me hope. We can’t diminish what he’s done just cause everyone doesn’t like him. I’ve never heard a scream out of him, it’s so much talent. I’m sure Slash, Savage Garden, Green Day vocalist, Christina Applegate etc. agree.

  • sweetie99v

    The musical world in the US right now may be at a place where the tastes do not include a powerful, high-voice male vocalist who puts on a show. It is so sadà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

    I don’t think its fair to say the US isn’t at that place now. The music industry is really embracing Adam. Of course there is some negativity, thats just the nature of life…. not everyone is going to love you. but the overwhelming response to him is positive.

  • sweetie99v

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s exaggeration to say that Adam Lambert has the potential to be the biggest star this show has ever produced.

    Nope. Its not an exaggeration. Adam could be an international star, whereas someone like Kris, Danny, and even Allison could be big in the U.S., but I don’t see international cross-appeal.

    Check out the Google statistics if you haven’t already. He’s really big in some European countries and especially Asia. they LOVE him.

  • cay

    LOL. Yeh, I don’t think it’d be rock and roll if everyone embraced him. I’m shocked and thrilled that he’s gotten this much acceptance. What he’s accomplished is absolutely stunning and amazing. Even if he goes home next week.

    Honestly, look at who he is and what/how he’s performed. And he’s still here. Wow is all I can say. People will look back on this and remember what an awesome feat it was.

  • steve

    If you are really have a interest in how hard it was on david bowie
    look at this go down to sexual orientation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie
    IT was very hard on these guys in the 70s.It took the us a long time to get queen’s music but when we did Wahooooooooo.

  • sweetie99v

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not being accepted by the mainstream. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s made it very far on Idol. People all over the internet who donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watch or vote on Idol like him. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s killing in itunes, google searches, twitter, etc. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not appealing to EVERYONE, but I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s appealing to enough. That gives me hope. We canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t diminish what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done just cause everyone doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve never heard a scream out of him, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so much talent. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure Slash, Savage Garden, Green Day vocalist, Christina Applegate etc. agree.

    Exactly! Not everyone is going to love you. Its not realistic. People can dislike you for wearing a green sweater. LOL Besides, if everyone loves you, you are definitely doing something wrong.. or worst yet, not doing anything at all….

    There’s a difference between being a singer and an artist. Adam is an artist.

  • idolrofan

    Lol, I didn’t mean to be negative! I also think he has made it very far and I completely agree that he will be HUGE as an international artist. I am European, and I can totally see him there.

    I just meant it’s kind of sad to me how the majority of Idol watchers – which, I agree, are not necessarily representative of the American public – could prefer others over him for reasons that are clearly not connected to pure vocal ability. Because on that one, he wins hands down.

    Anyways, people definitely have the right to their own opinions, of course. These are just the musing of an Adam fan.

  • karenw

    If you are really have a interest in how hard it was on david bowie
    look at this go down to sexual orientation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie
    IT was very hard on these guys in the 70s.It took the us a long time to get queenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music but when we did Wahooooooooo.

    But look at the bit in the small print .. he’s saying more or less that it wasn’t a problem in Europe but was a lot harder for the US to accept.

    I think that Adam would be hugely popular here in the UK .. we already have fan board etc for his UK fans and on one of the most popular general forums for reality TV shows Adam’s appreciation thread already has 5 times as many posts as David Cooks and Cookie’s has been going over a year longer.

    I guess it all depends on how he’s marketed and where he’s marketed as to how successful he’ll be internationally but the interest is definitely there here in the UK.

  • Tess

    I can’t speak for all of the baby boomers that watch American Idol, but I think a lot of them have and are really enjoying Adam Lambert. No matter how conservative some of us have become, a large majority of us still remember the great times that were the late 60′s and the early 70′s. We loved out OTT performers, our “howling” rock stars. We loved the fact that music hit us between the eyes, back in them thar days, because it helped us escape and or make sense of the war and all the social unrest it caused. I bet that, secretly, there are a lot of people who absolutely love Adam for bringing back to them that great love we once had for music. And, even though you youngins may not think so…some of us old foggies know how to dial a phone and text message.

  • cwg509

    I agree that Adam will do fantastic around the world. He’s already doing very well in the US because of the show (iTunes) on the strength of his vocals and personality. Not everyone has to like him, but it all depends on the songs he releases post-AI.

    I lived in Europe for a while and first saw Queen there when I was about 12. It was a huge stadium show. Amazing. Yeah, maybe that is why I have a soft spot for Adam.

    Off-topic, is “theatrical” the new “black”? I see Green Day and U2 are both composing Broadway musicals.

  • Ellie2

    I wasn’t born until the early ’70s, but as a kid my parents played The Doors, Bowie, Queen, etc. non-stop, and at high volume. I’m surprised my ear drums weren’t busted out by age ten. And my father’s prize possession, a gigantic painting of Jim Morrison, still hangs over the couch in his house. So, for me, Adam is like taking a walk back through the music I grew up with, but with an added current flair. Damn…Adam’s making me wax poetic about my childhood.

  • annoula

    This is a hilarious utube of a guy talking about Adam in the bottom 2 and what the judges need to do to get vote for Adam. Really, really funny (if you like Adam)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-li7bAOHltE

    That was an awesome video!

    As for Adam Lambert being like Freddie Mercury, I really enjoyed reading the posts above from people who focused on Mercury’s talent rather than his sexual preference. Also, you all are right; music today is less about melody or strength of someone’s voice; it’s more about the beat. I don’t know, but I’d rather listen to Queen more than any of the crap played on mainstream radio today. I beat myself up whenever I’m flipping through the stations and come in halfway through a Queen song; why the hell didn’t I just stick to the classic rock station?! Screw the traffic report!

    Listening to the mix above, I’ve seen (or heard) clearly now that Adam has the best chance of making it BIG; hopefully his first album allows him to do so. His voice not only sounds like Freddie Mercury, but it also blends in with current sounds. It did grate my ears to hear the song so chopped up, but I can appreciate taking classics and making them new.

  • JudyOhio

    If Adam can form a band of EXCELLENT, OTT instrumentalists (am talking drums, guitarists mainly that can become “personalities” in their own right) post idol, he’s the only one in 8 seasons of idol that I can see filling huge arenas with lavish, spectacular shows and becoming an international star like those we’ve been comparing him to.

  • Lisa

    This guy Steven is a riot. He just posted another one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dhpgz8M_v4&feature=channel_page

  • Dlynne

    I’m not quite a baby boomer but I loved Queen, Zeppelin, Bowie and Journey, as well as all of the other great bands of that time. Funny thing is, I didn’t even know who Freddie Mercury was until I was an adult. Sad, I know. I just knew the music of Queen and loved it. FWIW, I was raised in the Bible Belt and I never heard any talk about a band’s sexuality. It just didn’t matter.

    As a matter of fact, if you look at the frontmen of the times, including Steve Perry and Robert Plant, they all looked and dressed alike. You couldn’t tell who was gay or not – and nobody cared! And I still don’t care. I love the music.

    I was bored the other day so I wandered over to the AI forums, which I never do, and the longest thread was for teens who love Adam. It restored my faith in humanity. Seriously. Their ages are from 13 to 19 and they don’t care about his sexuality either. I now have hope that he will be able to bring back to music what’s been missing for a long time.

    ETA: I didn’t care much for either of those remixes but the original track sounds pretty awesome. I was hoping for a little wailing though. LOL

  • ShariG

    He is definitely a Freddie Mercury wanna be. Is it a conflict of interest that he has a previous association with Randy Jackson?

  • undercooked

    He is definitely a Freddie Mercury wanna be. Is it a conflict of interest that he has a previous association with Randy Jackson?

    I think this was addressed in another thread. Basically Adam was hired by a mixing company to lay down a vocal of Queen. That company in turn mixed it and sold it to a reality show which happens to be produced by Randy Jackson. Not much of a conflict in interest.

    Also, Adam is compared to Freddie because he has a similar vocal range. I wouldn’t call him a wanna be. You either have the vocal range or you don’t. It’s like calling Kobe of the Lakers a wanna be of Magic Johnson. They are both great basketball players in their own right.

  • JudyOhio

    The only thing I see as a little bit different from some of the other power vocalists (Freddie and all), is I doubt we’ll ever see Adam sweat, LOL. (course I could be wrong)

  • oddobserver

    Below is the full text from Wiki about what Bowie said was the response to his sexuality -
    “Bowie was posed with this question: “You once said that saying you were bisexual was ‘the biggest mistake I ever made’. Do you still believe that?”

    His response:
    Interesting. [Long pause] I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it was a mistake in Europe, but it was a lot tougher in America. I had no problem with people knowing I was bisexual. But I had no inclination to hold any banners or be a representative of any group of people. I knew what I wanted to be, which was a songwriter and a performer, and I felt that [bisexuality] became my headline over here for so long. America is a very puritanical place, and I think it stood in the way of so much I wanted to do.”

    I’m not an American, so pardon me if I inadvertently offend anyone. I agree with Bowie on that view. Maybe Adam is just in the wrong culture/show/era? Also, we hear about Adam sounding like Freddie Mercury and looking like Elvis, and all those other comparisons, but all these are of bygone eras, unless Adam is able to single-handedly start a revival a la Woodstock.
    I’m worried about his chances for AI, with Danny’s steadfast fanbase, supposedly comprising of people who like his church connections. (Though I wonder why Kris is not able to capitalise on his church connections, being a generally more likeable guy. Is the sob story factor that much influence?)

    Is America ready for Adam Lambert?

    Even Clay Aiken didn’t ‘out’ himself until he won. George Micheal, Freddie, Elton John, even *ugh* Boy George weren’t outed so openly, at least not in the conservative society I lived in. There were murmurs, but nothing solid, until their careers were more established, and they started getting careless or confident of their fanbase to ‘out’ themselves.

    ETA: It’s Adam’s own business about his sexuality, and it’s not usually discussed. So I really really hope that however Adam chooses to live is not a factor deciding whether Adam wins on AI. I’d love to have an Adam win, just based on his talent.

  • glamadamfan

    “Did Freddie Mercury get some of the same criticism that Adam gets now? comments such as polarizing, sounds like a girl, screeching, a man shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a range like that, gender bender, etc.?”

    I can’t speak for how they went down in the US, but at the time they broke in London, where I lived at the time, people were really accepting of their music or they weren’t. It was somewhat polarizing — but not due to gender issues. In fact, I don’t remember anyone even suspecting that “Queen” meant anything other than perhaps a tribute to Her Majesty. Then again, we had a lot of homosexuality being discussed openly on our TVs. For example, we had this late night talk show host, Russell Harty, who did a show and he was totally effeminate, but very widely accepted. He had David Bowie on there one night and David admitted he was bisexual and had an open marriage. He indicated that if he was in London and Angie (first wife) was in New York but flying into London or vice versa, it didn’t matter who they were in bed with, they’d leave their lover and go pick up the spouse. It was a big “water cooler” type topic for a while after that show.

    When Bohemian Rhapsody came out, people either LOVED Queen or they HATED them — and likewise for Freddie’s voice. A few years and a few songs later, everyone loved them.

    I don’t necessarily hear Freddie in Adam’s voice all the time and not on these clips, but he definitely has some of Freddie’s charm in both his voice and his style. Freddie sucked live — until Live Aid though — Adam is amazing live.

    Adam reminds me of a guy who WAS really criticized for screeching, and, in my opinion (and finally it seems, the opinion of the masses), had one of the greatest voices ever: Steve Perry of Journey. In one interview, Adam said he considered it a great compliment to be compared to Perry. In the early years of Perry with Journey, he was extremely polarizing due to his unbelievable range and many people thought he screeched too much, and the rumours that he was gay abounded (until he did Oh Sherrie with a video of his real life girlfriend). He was awesome in the studio, but always light years better live — and you can’t say that about too many performers from any decade. To me, Adam brings many of those Perry qualities, and much as I love his studio recordings, live, he just brings it so much more. .

  • glamadamfan

    “Also, Adam is compared to Freddie because he has a similar vocal range.”

    Adam’s range is much much wider than Freddie’s. Believe it or not, Freddie only sang in about 3 octaves (maybe 3 and a half, to be fair). I think he hit a C5 during Live Aid, and that was extremely rare and one of the few times he did — and only in falsetto, not in head voice. In fact, he said that when he was sick (and dying), he discovered his range expanded further than it ever had before. (That makes me sad to think what could have been.) I just found this website that details his highest and lowest notes: http://www.f-mercury.com.ar/eng_notes.htm

    From listening to Adam, I’d say he is able to sing in at least 5 octaves, possibly more — as unlikely as it seems that anyone could. Even on the show, I think he’s hit an A5 in head voice and an F5 in falsetto.

  • glamadamfan

    Dig this from Bowie’s Wikipedia page:

    “America is a very puritanical place, and I think it stood in the way of so much I wanted to do.”

    As a heterosexual Englishwoman living in the US for a long time, I say yay to that statement. I always thought America was “footloose and fancy free” … until I lived here for a while.

  • oddobserver

    I’m listening to Freddie Mercury & Bowie’s “Under Pressure” for the upteenth time. I’m liking the idea of a Kradam “Under Pressure” more and more, just please don’t make Adam just wail “why why…..” like what the Canadian Idol duo did. Adam and Kris can do better than that!

  • WinkyDink

    *Waves to fellow 60′s hippie flynnsgirl!*

    Is Adam “accepted”? Did adults “accept” Led Zeppelin, the Airplane, Mothers of invention, the Doors, Country Joe (especially his cheer?!)? HELL, NO! And we preferred it that way, thankyouverymuch!

    So if there’s a contingent that sees Adam as the anti-Danny who must begone, or a segment that hears a high tenor and calls it “screaming”, or a demographic that watches Jamie Foxx and can’t wait to purchase his work, so be it. That still leaves at least a hundred million Americans!

    oddobserver, Clay neither won, nor outed himself until five years later, when he became a parent.

  • oddobserver

    hee, you’re right WinkyDink. Dunno how I could have forgotten even for a moment that Clay was 2nd. Clay lost to Rueben. Anyway, I missed the ‘outing’, so dunno the circumstances that prompted his outing. But his fanbase would have been established already, right? I can’t imagine him making such a move without being sure of his fanbase first, or firmly establishing his career .

    Anyway, it’s his choice. I was just wondering in my post if Bowie had a point when he mused that America wasn’t able to accept gay singers for just their talent, and it got in the way of his US career. And I wondered if it’ll be the same situation for Adam.

  • Gigi3

    I just looked at a clip of Freddie Mercury singing “Who Wants to Live Forever”, and in the first minute or so of his appearance he stands bathed in a beautiful blue spotlight, then he descends a large staircase.

    Sounds familiar, in a good way!! Showmanship is BACK. Love him or hate him, my guess is that no one watching AI has been bored when Adam performs.

  • sweetie99v

    From listening to Adam, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d say he is able to sing in at least 5 octaves, possibly more à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  as unlikely as it seems that anyone could. Even on the show, I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hit an A5 in head voice and an F5 in falsetto.

    What is so interesting with Adam is he has such a wide voice range with his full voice. He doesn’t always have to use his falsetto/head voice. He is truely gifted, and had one hell of a voice coach as a child!!

  • sweetie99v

    Sounds familiar, in a good way!! Showmanship is BACK. Love him or hate him, my guess is that no one watching AI has been bored when Adam performs.

    Its sad to me that walking down the stairs is considered theatarical and too showy. Do people not go to entertainment venues to see real events/concerts/etc? Or is today’s music just full of jumping up and down and waving arms in the air?? LOL

  • sweetie99v

    I was just wondering in my post if Bowie had a point when he mused that America wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t able to accept gay singers for just their talent, and it got in the way of his US career. And I wondered if ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be the same situation for Adam.

    One could argue that most people in entertainment are gay or bisexual. This isn’t a new development…….. If anything, I think people are more accepting now. Although I know there are still closed/narrow-minded folks out there.

  • http://twitter.com/nokking nokking

    This…

    I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t speak for all of the baby boomers that watch American Idol, but I think a lot of them have and are really enjoying Adam Lambert. No matter how conservative some of us have become, a large majority of us still remember the great times that were the late 60à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and the early 70à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. We loved out OTT performers, our à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“howlingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  rock stars. We loved the fact that music hit us between the eyes, back in them thar days, because it helped us escape and or make sense of the war and all the social unrest it caused. I bet that, secretly, there are a lot of people who absolutely love Adam for bringing back to them that great love we once had for music. And, even though you youngins may not think soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦some of us old foggies know how to dial a phone and text message.

    *sign* why why wasn’t I born in 60′s or early ’70′s? :( (( (specifically think about Jim Morrison here)

    My best friend just said to me last week that if Adam was to compete in Europe or other parts of the world, he would have won the contest already. There would be no question about his sexuality at all. Kinda echo what a lot of you are saying here. I’m glad that many people are accepting Adam for who he is but I understand that many also don’t (we Asians call them middle America, sorry!) but I think that’s the thing about being an artist. You provoke feelings in people, for the best or the worst. People either love or hate you, just the way great artists are. If people don’t care enough about you they just don’t talk at all. I think Adam will have a great future ahead of him outside of Idol bubble where some contestants may not survive it at all. (and who was that grayed haired guy from last Wed again? *cough*)

    That’s my 2 cents anyway and I guess I’m the minority here who like ‘screeching’ and OTT Adam. That ‘Feeling Good’ is probably one of my fav performance from Adam, what a showmanship! Although I talked to a friend who’s American and she thought it is disturbing, oh well….

  • rk349097

    OK, since no one else here has said this, I guess I’ll be the one to do so. If Joanna Pacitti was disqualified for her prior experience and ties to the “Idol” producers / judges, then Adam Lambert should be disqualified as well. I admit that the dude can be outrageously entertaining (and I think that this is clouding a lot of our judgment here), but the fact remains that he has the same ties to Randy Jackson for which Carly Smithson was eviscerated on many boards (not just VFTW) last year. Not to mention the fact that he has years of professional voice training from his musical theatre experience that few (if any) other contestants have. There’s a reason that Adam seems head and shoulders above the others at times, and that’s because he’s already a professional singer! To be fair, Adam isn’t the only one left on this show who can be accused of being a plant (he’s only the most blatant example), as Allison had appeared on (and won) a Spanish-language talent competition on Telemundo as recently as two years ago. My point is that the “Idol” producers should stop pretending that the competitors on this show are anything close to being amateurs, or even “undiscovered talent.” It’s flat-out insulting to the audience’s intelligence.

  • weareallinnocent

    rk349097, the producers don’t pretend anything. The rules state that contestants can’t be under a current contract. That’s all.

    Just because America likes the perception that disadvantaged children are plucked from obscurity, discovered after having only sung in the shower at home, doesn’t mean that the show’s rules require that. They don’t. Until they do, it’s not fair to impose such a requirement ourselves and then claim the producers are being less than forthcoming about the show’s premise.

    Again, as stated upthread, recording a demo that is then sold does not by itself even suggest a contact with RJ, much less a prior relationship. Joanna had a known and extensive prior relationship. So, at least on the info we have, her situation differs quite a bit.

  • Victoria

    OK, since no one else here has said this, I guess Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be the one to do so. If Joanna Pacitti was disqualified for her prior experience and ties to the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  producers / judges, then Adam Lambert should be disqualified as well.

    Joanna had a personal relationship with someone who is now a Fox exec. She considers her to be her “best friend.” Adam did not have a personal relationship with Randy before the show. He just recorded some vocals and the mix was used on Randy’s show. It’s very different.

    Also, Joanna was not dq’d because of her previous experience. It was only because she had a personal relationship with a Fox employee.

  • palmtrees

    Adam’s connections to the show are the worst I’ve ever seen in any “reality” show. He does appear to have friendships to people connected to the show and 19Entertainment, there’s a photo of him with Brian Friedman for one, who is connected to his friends from the Zodiac Show, Alisan Porter and Lee Cherry. Brian Friedman did choreography for the Zodiac Show that Adam was in.

    http://thumbsnap.com/v/g34R7ohH.jpg

    He also does choreography for various shows like DWTS and SYTYCD, and was a judge on SYTYCD in Season two (also made by 19Entertainment, and where Nigel Lythgoe’s gone). He was the Creative Director on X Factor last year, working directly with Cowell. Creative Director is a big deal and he was given the job when the plans for him to be a judge fell through.
    Cowell isn’t just a judge either, he is a producer of both shows.

    http://thumbsnap.com/v/5rME1WE8.jpg

    Now Adam knows Randy too…LOL
    I half-expected something to pop up with Paula, but I wasn’t expecting that.

  • rockvixen

    Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s connections to the show are the worst Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen in any à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“realityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  show. He does appear to have friendships to people connected to the show and 19Entertainment, thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a photo of him with Brian Friedman for one, who is connected to his friends from the Zodiac Show, Alisan Porter and Lee Cherry. Brian Friedman did choreography for the Zodiac Show that Adam was in.

    http://thumbsnap.com/v/g34R7ohH.jpg

    He also does choreography for various shows like DWTS and SYTYCD, and was a judge on SYTYCD in Season two (also made by 19Entertainment, and where Nigel Lythgoeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gone). He was the Creative Director on X Factor last year, working directly with Cowell. Creative Director is a big deal and he was given the job when the plans for him to be a judge fell through.
    Cowell isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just a judge either, he is a producer of both shows.

    http://thumbsnap.com/v/5rME1WE8.jpg

    Now Adam knows Randy tooà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦LOL
    I half-expected something to pop up with Paula, but I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expecting that.

    ——————————
    So what? How does recording a demo that is used on Randy’s show by a friend of Adam’s imply that Adam knew Randy or got on AI because of it? Where’s your proof? It’s all speculation and conjecture on your part.