Phillip Phillips: Album Not Coming Out Until "January or Febuary" (VIDEO)

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Phillip Phillips told WPLJ DJ, Race Taylor in a recent interview, that the bulk of recording for his album will happen after the tour. He doesn’t expect to release it until “January or February.”

“They really want to give me some time to make an album that represents me,” explains Phillip. “Hopefully people will stick around to check it out.”

I hope so too, Phillip. I really do. An Idol releasing an album in the winter dead zone? Sounds risky. Season 5 runner up, Katharine McPhee, released her album in January, and that did not go so well. We’ll see.

Phillip has written 40 to 50 songs already. Those songs better be damn good.

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  • mileyfan123

    uh oh.

  • TheGreatXL

    40 to 50 songs? Wow!

    I just hope he’s focusing on quality next to that quantity. :P

  • wkstrack

    Um Kat was the only Idol winner/runner-up to release her album in the new year? This is kinda interesting. I wonder what’s going on behind the scenes. This could be a way of Interscope wanting Phillip to create an album that represents HIM and not just a throw-away rushed album but I still think it’s a little strange for the Idol winner to release his debut in the winter of next year and not Nov/Dec like the rest of the winners….

  • chessguy99

    So, that means a miniscule chance for any new PP music this year? With the Olympics rapidly fading from the public mind, Home is starting to stagnate on the Top 40 chart. While still holding its own on HAC and TripleA, I expect it will begin to fade as other artists start to release singles to prep their holiday shopping season albums. We could wind up with no Phillip single getting real airplay until after the the Holiday radio freeze. Almost like starting from scratch.

  • rayni

    I don’t know what is driving what seems to be a bad decision – his health? his stubborness? his inexperience? struggles over material? their demands? them letting him hoist himself on his own petard?

    Whatever it is, it doesn’t feel good :(  Phillip may think the success of a song he says doesn’t really represent him will carry him over into the cold, dark winter sales months.  It just feels like such a waste of momentum :(

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FY2C22O3MOGRCKTXRWVOSL6B24 yahoo-FY2C22O3MOGRCKTXRWVOSL6B24

    Its called giving him the time and doing the proper promtion to try and make him have the most successful album possible. Not a p2 fan but this is the right thing. Why d you think lee flopped. Because h didnt make a album that represents him. This is best for p2 career

  • lila6089

    It seems to me that in every interview that he has given since his surgery in May, when asked how he is feeling, he continues to say that he taking it slow and trying to rest when he can. I have yet to hear him say that he is at 100% physically. So I am thinking that maybe he is having a difficult time physically keeping up with the tour, interviews, writing, recording etc. that it’s just impossible for him to get the album finished before the holidays.  Plus he had a later start to the recording process due to the surgery.  

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I still think this is partly a blatant play for a #1 open on the BB 200. That’s a lot easier for him to get in February, up against mostly indie releases and smaller acts, than in November/December, when the big names cluster their releases.

    If the style of what P2′s writing, his speed at it, or feedback Interscope’s getting from radio PD’s also pushes in the direction of launching him at a less frenzied time of year — taking the sales hit for the sake of better PR and counting on being able to keep sales going that way — that wouldn’t shock me.

  • TheOther

    Well, there are also Idols who released CD’s during the holiday season and they went nowhere. I also doubt his label would do this if they didn’t see some benefit. I’d rather have him take more time and get a good product that defines who is as an artist – outside of the AI bubble.

    I cringed when I heard some of the songs being thrown at his peers from Season 11.

  • blackberryharvest

    I don’t think its a good idea to do this, especially with his momentum of “Home.” I don’t think it would benefit him to wait.

    Hopefully Jessica releases her album earlier.

  • durbesque

    Phil’s lack of skill shows more here than in other settings.  He needs some lessons.  I guess the behind-the-scenes experts on Idol didn’t bother teaching him the basics.  He would sound much better if he would just breathe! 

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    It certainly doesn’t seem like the choice you would make if you could help it…sounds like a number of factors could enter in…health, getting behind because of health, his determination to write or co-write so many of the songs, and the goal of getting that #1.  

    This being my first year of following the charts, it was certainly a shock as to just how big of a drop the sales took after the holidays…

  • wkstrack

    I find it interesting that he said he needs to be easy on himself physically. Yet, there are pics of him getting off the Idol tour bus carrying what looks like heavy bags/loads. So I don’t think it has to do with how his health is. 

  • girlygirltoo

    that’s not really that big a number. Kris, Adam and David Cook (among others) have mentioned having written even more songs than that for albums

  • EmmaCT

    Good. I think the time is needed – by all of them – to get it right.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Phillip is not the only one.  Kelly released her first album in April.  So he’ll be the second winner to not release their debut in Nov/Dec.  The first season ended in September, not May, but they still wanted the album out by the holidays. Kelly told them, “You better hope I don’t win.”  haha It all worked out okay.

  • TheOther

    But if you ask all 10 previous winners, I would say most of them wish they had more time to record their debut; that they didn’t have to record such an important album during a major tour.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Kelly also released her album in the year following her win but she won later in the year than other winners (September instead of May). Thankful was released in April the next year, so well into the spring rather than the horrible winter albums sales climate. So I worry with Phillip that Jan/Feb for now might become March/April.

    As I said in the other thread, I don’t think the constraints of the Idol rush job automatically mean the album will turn out poorly and we’ve seen Idols who’ve spent the time to “get it right” not be rewarded for it in terms of sales or acclaim really (poor selling albums from Idols will never get a sniff at the Grammys and ultimately benefit from an awards show boost). As it’s been pointed out, last year the stated strategy was to get Scotty and Lauren’s albums out there in a hurry and not let the fans forget about them. Now they’ve done a 180 in philosophy in the space of a year so of course it’s going to be questioned.

  • tinawina

    I agree this is risky, but after thinking about it I do think his health might be the driving factor here. Originally he was saying December was a possibility and that probably had to do with the delay in starting the process, so I’m guessing he has found it harder than he imagined to keep up the grueling pace so soon after major surgery.

  • girlygirltoo

    Idols have had poor album sales when releasing albums that do represent them as artists as well. But I agree that giving P2 more time to work on his album should help the quality (if not necessarily how well it does commercially).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    Maybe they want it to come out when season 12 is on? He can release another single before then. Sounds like a good idea to me. It’s what Simon is doing with Melanie!

  • tripp_ncwy

    Last year they had two country artists  and a slew of country related award shows and high profile tv/performance opportunities for them to keep a high profile. Not to mention various Opry performances.  These opportunities are fewer for the pop side of things. In the fall on pop side, you have what the MTV video awards and AMA’s.

  • justmefornow

    I don’t count Scotty and Lauren, they are with Mercury/Nashville, not under Interscope. 
    I count for Interscope, Haley, Pia, P2, and any other Idols from A11 they sign.
    If they miscalculate with this late release, IMO they are 0/3 so far.

    Unless the delay is for his health, and this would be legit, this is a bad move. It’s not 5 or 6 years ago when Idol was still relevant. The music business has changed a lot since those glory years.
    They better hope people liked P2 and not just the song “Home”, especially if the album sounds nothing like that song.

    And I’m not buying the BS about the delay being about getting it right and making it a representation of the true artist. You don’t sell well, even at first, you get less promo, which doesn’t help improve future sales or chances for more singles if the first one doesn’t do well. And on and on it goes in a nasty spiral til you get dropped from your label.
     
    This is a gamble about his popularity in and out of the bubble, and if his fan base will stick around.

  • Incipit

    So Phillip has been co-writing since the Tour began in July – there are 40 to 50 songs now – two months out from the deadline for the Final Master. How many more songs can be written and/or demo’d in two months time? How many more are wanted? Unknown. 

    Sure, each winner may have wished to be able to write and record without the Idol Tour in the way – but no one has said they ‘wanted’ to skip the tour, or the holiday sales to accomplish that. It’s the established protocol – they’ve all dealt with it, with varying degrees of success. If Interscope is changing parameters suddenly – we’ll have to see what that looks like.

    And Phillip only needs 15 songs max chosen from all those songs, written and not yet written  - for an album, say 20 for the round numberness of the number. This is not doable in two more months? – when the Idol Tour is over on Sept 11 – there are already demos cut, and decks could be cleared to focus on recording for the rest of September and all of October, and Phillip doesn’t have to be present for post production…??

    Okay – suspended disbelief…I guess I can do that – but wait, there’s more. There is the thought that “Home” is gonna carry the flag for both the Coronary and the Album Single – which, we ought to know soon if that’s true – and that means expecting the song has legs that last for eight to nine months – from May to Jan or February of next year – what makes this believable? There is such a large fanbase that eight or nine months of attrition with no new music won’t matter? The same level of interest will exist in the First Quarter of next year as is common in the Fourth Quarter Holiday sales without even a new song? News to me.

    As I asked on the other thread:

     since the Coronary “Home” is all platinum like ToML – why couldn’t another song possibly follow it as a single and go platinum like “Light On”? There’s a precedent – the industry bought it that time, so did radio – KWIM? I don’t see the difference….it was a gamble then for RCA – it would be a gamble now for Interscope…but so is skipping the buying season for the slim possibility of debut number bragging rights. Even that is not an odds on thing.

    So there’s a limit to my suspended disbelief – the moment where a First Quarter Album release (regardless of single) with lower numbers instead of the Holiday Sales Season of the Fourth Quarter is painted as a Good Thing…for the dubious trade-off of an “asterisk added” debut number that doesn’t have much competition, and doesn’t even have to be very high to look good in comparison to that low competition?

    Not only am I missing the pressing need for this delay to already be pre-planned halfway through the process, and would regard it as a large lack of confidence on the Label’s part – I REALLY do not see the fiscal advantage.

    To anyone, *if* this comes to pass. (And there’s ‘my’ asterisk)

    IMO, it won’t. It’s not logical. But who knows? I wouldn’t cover any bets on it, anyway.

  • Karen C

    I really think a big part of this decision was because of Phillips health, and because he wants to write his own songs, but I also don’t necessarily think it is bad for the album sales.  At least in the UK, the X Factor winners and some of the  runners up have released albums even a year later and had success. If they give him the proper promotion when the album does come out, it could still do well.

  • wordnerdarchie

     

    They better hope people liked P2 and not just the song “Home”, especially if the album sounds nothing like that song.

    I watch the comments section of the Home video, and there have been a very large number of them that state they heard it on the Olympics, liked it & went to find the song.  Many had thought it was Mumford & Sons.  I guess I wonder how many will stick around until February (if that’s when it gets released) and buy the CD on just that song alone.

  • Karen C

    I didn’t know he was doing that much writing.  Then it doesn’t make that much sense that it was health issues.  It might be less competition, and if they can use Idol to promote the album, it will really have an advantage to have a high debut  number.

  • wordnerdarchie

     We’ve had another idol (not a winner) who released in the Spring, came in at #1, and where are those sales now?  Getting a #1 does not mean it will have longevity in sales.

  • elliegrll

    So, that means a miniscule chance for any new PP music this year?

    I don’t see how it should mean that.  This gives him the chance to release a first single in the right way, which idol alums usually can’t do.  It usually takes two to three months for a single from a new artist to work it’s way up the charts, so this gives Interscope breathing room.  They can let Home do whatever it is going to do, and then have enough time to release a first single that may be a better representative of what the debut album will sound like.  In the meantime, besides writing, Phillip can make some public appearances, and go on a radio tour, which will put him in a good situation when his album is released.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    There is the thought that “Home” is gonna carry the flag for both the Coronary and the Album Single – which, we ought to know soon if that’s true – and that means expecting the song has legs that last for eight to nine months – from May to Jan or February of next year – what makes this believable?

    There’s actually no need to believe that in order to justify a winter album drop. Interscope can release another single as soon as one’s recorded — and can also decide when to time it around the holiday freeze.

    I’d raised the hypothetical that Home might do the Gavin DeGraw NOY thing, get a second wind on CHR, and peak there as late as February. But this is not a required scenario.

    What one does have to believe is at least one of two things:

    –P2 and Interscope can’t agree on 12 commercially viable songs and get them recorded in time for a late November drop. He’s an inexperienced songwriter in dicey health, with a preferred sound that’s not commercially mainstream. This part doesn’t seem like a stretch. Since he’s been sold as “songwriter” and is visibly uncomfortable singing other people’s songs, handing him songs and saying, “Sing, laddie!” is not likely to go well.

    –Interscope doesn’t like the prospects for P2′s album sales up against the likely holiday competition and believes it can make better hay in the winter. 

    This is all assuming, of course, that Interscope has agreed to “January or February.” I remember Bowersox merrily announcing a March drop date for her debut, when Jive had not co-signed for that plan. [Yeah, I'm contradicting my own original theory here, but it took me all day to realize that while I wouldn't announce without label approval, not everybody plays it that way.]

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    This is all assuming, of course, that Interscope has agreed to
    “January or February.” I remember Bowersox merrily announcing a March
    drop date for her debut, when Jive had not co-signed for that plan.

    Great point. And lord knows if P2 is like any past Idol finalist, it’s Crystal Bowersox. LOL. I lurve me some Mamasox. <3

    Actually, Crystal ended up releasing in December and the result was actually not a bad representation of her as an artist. She did write most of it. She could have used a little more time to bake but it did not sound like anyone else but Crystal IMO. So with 40 or so songs written Phil may turn out fine (artistic integrity wise at least) even if they push for a December release.
     

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    The press of a #1 album is nice, but remember that the two best-selling albums from Idols (Some Hearts and Breakaway) never did reach the top of the Billboard 200. And most Idols would happily trade having a #1 album if it meant their album would go on to sell 6-7 million copies or even a third of that.

    We’ve had three winners who did a lot of co-writing on their albums and they all managed to make November release dates, but none of them had a major illness to contend with and recover from prior to/during the tour. Now maybe Iovine thinks P2 is so much more special than they were and needs more time to get it right and he’s planning to launch P2 as a true artiste next year with the red carpet treatment…SNL, Unplugged, getting Home a major Grammy nom and a performance slot for P2, the works.

    Of course this is all moot if P2 is just throwing around a time frame without prior authorization/approval from TPTB. It didn’t sound that way, while with Bowersox, I always knew she was going rogue and the label had other plans.

  • Incipit

    This is all assuming, of course, that Interscope has agreed to “January or February.” I remember Bowersox merrily announcing a March drop date for her debut, when Jive had not co-signed for that plan.

    Exactly, and good reason for caution – that was a case where a quote from the principle was not reliable…just as ‘I told TPTB this is not my Single’ wasn’t reliable.

    As for the two things one has to believe – Maybe Interscope can’t find 12 commercially viable songs that fall into Phillip’s range and are close enough to his genre, like “Home” was/is (where they did hand him a song and say “Sing it”, essentially)  - but how do they know they can’t find these other songs in time when they are only halfway through the process?

    And this would follow, I suppose – “–Interscope doesn’t like the prospects for P2′s album sales up against the likely holiday competition and believes it can make better hay in the winter. ”

    But the ‘Hay” isn’t numbers or profit, or anything solid they can monetize – it’s a dubious ‘asterisk added’ opening spot that doesn’t translate to anything but Bragging Rights in the PR releases – and all of it points to little faith in an artist they were under contract to sign. 

    Bad Mojo to overcome, IMO.  And, I don’t think their Spin Machine is ‘that’ good.

  • potatorocks

    I bet it is as simple as Philip just can’t do it all.  He can’t maintain a schedule that includes touring, writing, promoting and recording.   They had to choose how to use the energy he has and they decided he should promote Home rather than record for the album.  I believe his body  needs sleep and days off.  

  • getaway1

    If strategy is to position Phillip so that he has a #1 debut, I say yes. The more media attention he gets when the CD drops, the better.

    I do not subscribe to any conspiracy theory that something is wrong behind the scenes. If that was the case, they would just hand him a bunch of songs to sing, make a quick buck off it and be done with it.

    Phillip is the only one that they have been promoting – and promoting big time. The Home video was clearly about promoting Phillip as an artist, vs just promoting the song.

  • KatMyers


    P2 and Interscope can’t agree on 12 commercially viable songs and get them recorded in time for a late November drop. He’s an inexperienced songwriter in dicey health, with a preferred sound that’s not commercially mainstream. This part doesn’t seem like a stretch. ”

    This sounds entirely plausible given the speculation around discord between winner and label that swirled around in the last couple of weeks.  Despite 19, PP and Hannah Banana denying said discord, all the pieces fit to create a picture of lack of consensus.

    Jimmy doesn’t strike me as an entirely patient man, or one whose ego would respond kindly to a noob disagreeing (if previously mentioned alleged discord is accurate)  Delaying the album could in fact be the label’s way of fulfilling contractual obligations while sticking it to PP for his perceived stubborness.

    And let us not forget, no one is irreplaceable … businesses are run on the basis of making money but that’s not to say that they expect every product to be a winner.  Some obviously never make it and those that don’t get dropped.  In the music industry, low sales and difficult artist are a great excuse for not exercising a subsequent option.

    I am neither fan nor foe of PP and I do wish him well but my sense of this strategy is not faith inspiring.

  • IrisandLilies

    Norah Jones released her critically acclaimed and commercially successful debut album, “Come Away With Me,” on February 26, 2002, so releasing an album in February is not an automatic death knell.

    Moreover, Phillip’s intended audience is made up of people who care about good lyrics and interesting melodies. Phillip is never going to attract and keep those types of fans with a hurriedly put-together album.

    Also, I seem to recall several doomsday posters on this board prophesying that “Home” would go nowhere as a single because Phillip was unable to do the press tour immediately following the finale. Well, their prophesies didn’t come true. Because “Home” was a good song, it was used in the Olympics, which gave it new life. The same thing happened with Fun’s “We Are Young.” IMO, the quality of Phillip’s album rather than the timing of its release is going to determine its success.

    Furthermore, I would bet that the fans who appreciate him for his music rather than his looks would prefer to wait an additional three months for his album if it means that it will be something that truly reflects him as an artist.

  • Kirsten

     

    This is all assuming, of course, that Interscope has agreed to “January
    or February.” I remember Bowersox merrily announcing a March drop date
    for her debut, when Jive had not co-signed for that plan.

    Taylor Hicks also told people he was going to release after Christmas because he didn’t want to record while he was touring (and the tour ended up running quite late that year because they kept adding dates – original end concert was in Tacoma on Sept 2nd, but they extended the tour until Sept 24th). Arista told him he was going to release before Christmas and he did.

    Kat ended up releasing after Christmas due to continuing vocal problems (she didn’t join the tour until almost the end of July and only performed a 3 song set), but also because they decided to change directions a little when the initial songs didn’t work out as well as hoped.

    Kelly’s album was delivered the following year for a couple of reasons as well. Not only did the season not finish until September, but the tour ran until November 20th. She also had to film that wretched “From Justin to Kelly” and record a soundtrack for that (it came out on June 20th, 2003). It would have been a Kristy Lee Cook 4 day recording job if Kelly had somehow managed to get that puppy out before Christmas.

    Bo Bice’s intestines practically exploded while on tour resulting in emergency surgery and missing several weeks of the tour (earlier on the tour, he also broke his foot, so did Kat and in Season 3. For a while there, runner-ups had a rough time on tour). He was still very ill during the recording process and still managed to get his album out before Christmas. Of course, he was also Biced.

  • teacup

    That’s right Phil, take your sweet old time. I see this as a great marketing strategy, as he totally needs to wait for another big sporting event for the label to promote him with. Maybe they can pimp his album single ad nauseam through the NFL playoffs and Super Bowl!

  • clearone

    I guess I’m perplexed why this would be a bad thing.  It gives Phillip more time to create a CD that he is happy with.  February is a sweeps  month for television.  Idol is back on the air in January.  I don’t see it as a bad thing for the current Idol to step back on the Idol stage to promote his CD. 

  • getaway1

    Jimmy doesn’t strike me as an entirely patient man, or one whose ego would respond kindly to a noob disagreeing (if previously mentioned alleged discord is accurate) Delaying the album could in fact be the label’s way of fulfilling contractual obligations while sticking it to PP for his perceived stubborness

    Why would they stick it to someone who is making them tons of money?  When Interscope cleans house, the ones to go will be people like Haley and Pia. Nice people, but can’t sell.

    It’s funny, when there have a shift in release dates for other Idols, it is always perceived as a good thing. So the same should apply to Phillip.

    The couple of mos change is nothing compared to Melanie Amaro, who waited a good year after X-Factor.

  • ri2

    I love him. I’ll wait….

  • Kirsten

    Why would they stick it to someone who is making them tons of money?

    Good question. Go ask Clive. He told anybody who would listen that Kelly Clarkson’s “My December” was a piece of sh!t. That’s not a good way to move those units.

    But it’s an excellent way to tell your stable of singers “I don’t care how big a hit your last album was, if you insist on singing the non-commercial crap you wrote instead of the hits I want you to sing….I will bury you”

    The entire release of that album and how the singles performed without label support was an eye-opening experience.

  • littleapple

    It`s a bad idea to release his album in January or February. The album quality will be better in January than December? I dont think so. But the album sales will be better in December. Dont be stubborn for release date and some naive reasons. I hope this isn`t Interscope`s final decision, just only PP`s expection.

  • OffLeash

    Whatever the reasons are, it’s a very risky decision. I can’t remember any successful Idol album released so long after the end of the show, and Kelly doesn’t count because it was the first season. To make things worse, by the time the album drops, there will have been 2 full seasons of competitive talent shows, The Voice S3 and XF S2, and a new season of The Voice S4 and Idol S12 underway. That’s a lot to expect from an audience that has shown it’s fickle and moves on so quickly and remorselessly to the next popular contestant.

    Sure P2 could get a #1 for his debut album with low sales numbers, but getting a #1 album with low sales when there’s little or no competition doesn’t seem to impress PDs. Ask Adam Lambert. Haley also took her time to release her album, but it sure didn’t help her sales or radio play. The same thing could definitely happen to P2.

    If (and that’s a big IF even though things are looking much better right now) Home starts tearing up the radio charts, its success could carry P2 until October, possibly later. But Interscope would need to release a lead single in time for Black Friday.

    If I were in charge, I’d go for an excellent EP released before the end of the year instead of a full album later. It would be the best of both world IMO: taking advantage of the holiday sales, and enough time to really do a good job on a handful of songs. It could be quality plus sales opportunity, and would avoid the risk of totally flunking with a album released too late. Then again maybe it’s a good thing I’m not in charge lol… ;)

  • getaway1

    Unless Jimmy Iovine goes around doing what like Clive Davis did with Kelly Clarkson, I will say the theory of Interscope trying to position Phillip a #1 debut seems a lot more logical than any other conspiracy theory.  If Interscope really wanted to get rid of Phillip, there is a lot more effective ways to do that than just changing a release date.

  • Kirsten

    If I were in charge, I’d go for an excellent EP released before the end of the year instead of a full album later.

    In addition to the positive points for this strategy you raise, an EP is generally a little cheaper to buy which will put it at a very attractive price point as a stocking stuffer.

    They used this strategy very successfully with Bieber and Jackie from AGT – their first releases were rushed EPs that sold like hot cakes at their attractive price just before Christmas.

  • KatMyers

    PP is not the first to have a platinum single and he won’t be the last.  Some that went before him also had platinum singles and then bombed on the next.  History is rife with one hit wonders.  I am not saying PP will fail after “Home” nor am I wishing failure on him.  I’m just saying that if the speculation about disagreement with the label is true (and there is good reason for the speculation) then the strategy of delaying album release to the deadest months could be the label’s way of saying you need us more than we need you.  It is entirely possible that with this one single he has made enough money for the label to recoup any production costs for the album.

    The reality is we are not privy to the behind the scenes dealings and relationships.  We don’t know how strong a songwriter PP is (but if “Hazel” is any indication then not that good).  Maybe everything is all rainbows and sunshine.  Or maybe there is discord and the dead of winter release is Jimmy’s way of fulfilling contractual obligation while letting PP know who’s boss and who runs the show.  In the end none of us know.  I am merely throwing out a theory, which is as valid as any other.  Only time will tell how it will all work out.

    As for Melanie Amaro, well that in itself is a good argument for not waiting.

    ETA: Let’s also not forget that “Home”, although a good song, has been helped out tremendously by the Olympics … the next single may not have the perfect set of circumstances that it’s predecessor did. Luck does come into play.

  • sdmama

    Phillip had a major surgery, after suffering from kidney stone for a year, and went back to really busy touring right after that.  Even healthy idols said that it was crazy hard.  If I were his boss, making sure that he won’t get sick again  would be the biggest concern. Him not being able to perform on the tour would be a huge problem.

     I think they are let him cut him a slack as much as possible, like not making him sing in group performances, not making him do every interview, not sending him to studio to record until tour is done.  That might include not having heated debate on the direction of CD, BUT the true reason is likely his health issue. 

    Don’t kill the goose that lays golden eggs, right? Or, at least we are interested in seeing there are more eggs to come!

  • Kirsten

     

    more logical than any other conspiracy theory.

    I’m not saying that’s why P^2′s album is being delayed. I was just responding to a question where somebody wondered why any record exec would ever stick it to a successful artist. They can and do do that. Don’t count on the label’s unfailing support no matter what kind of mule the artist turns into.

    Frankly, I think P^2 thinks his album is going to be delayed, but Interscope will make sure it is released before Christmas.

    We know that the Idol recording contract has the standard “6 months” to deliver the completed album to the recording company. Usually, the Idols sign within the first week of winning which means they have to deliver the album by late November at the latest (P^2 may have been able to delay that signing due to his illness). After that, the label can give the artist 60 days to complete the album or get all the money they paid back.

    This just means that the label is in the position to force the matter if they want to. Lots of albums don’t get completed in 6 months, but that is because the label and the artist come to an agreement. If the label wants the album in 6 months, they can force the issue. The label has a fair amount of power on this issue.

    The label and P^2 may have come to an agreement to release the album later, but it’s probably not their favourite thing.

  • Kirsten

    Even healthy idols said that it was crazy hard.

    Even sicker Idols have made the Christmas deadline.

    Him not being able to perform on the tour would be a huge problem.

    Jimmy doesn’t care. He’s not seeing a dime of that tour money (and those tickets are already paid for. You don’t get your money back if Phil doesn’t show up – the promoter would only care if people get mad and don’t come back next year).

    I think they are let him cut him a slack as much as possible, like not making him sing in group performances

    Scotty was as healthy as a horse last year and he didn’t do the group performances either. They winner just gets held until the end.

    Don’t kill the goose that lays golden eggs, right? Or, at least we are interested in seeing there are more eggs to come!

    Maybe Phil should remember that too. Jimmy found the golden egg and gave it to Phil. Maybe Phil should not bother writing his songs and see if that dude has any more songs he wants to sell.

    The world is full of talented artists who will never be anything more than bar singers. Most of them don’t get recording contracts. The labels, producers and song-writers also contribute to a successful hit. It takes a village.

  • TheOther

    I don’t think the record label is out to sabotage Phillip. In other seasons, the non winners were a lot more visible helping to promote AI and the tour. It’s been pretty much on Phillip’s shoulders. Everyone else has been noticeably absent from the media.  So in addition to the tour, he’s done media (radio tours) by himself almost every day to promote AI, Home, the tour; often times giving multiple performances.  He’s already has solo shows lined up after the tour. This is in addition to collaborating on his own CD. His gf tweeted that he worked 17 hrs straight the other day and is known to pull all nighters in the studio.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Janaury or February? God Damn! It’s a long time that I’ll have to wait to not buy his album. 

    All jokes aside, I think it’s uncommon idols, especially winners, take so long to release an album. Anyone has information about winners releasing albums so late?

    I saw what happened with Haley’s sales and I think she could have sold much mroe if she released her album in 2011.

  • OffLeash

    If P2 turns out to be too much of a pain in the butt for Jimmy, P2 will be clived, I have no doubt about it. When Jimmy and James butted heads, they had the luxury of being able to part ways. Not so with P2 because as the winner, he has to be signed and release an album. Sure Home is selling, but then P2 would have to agree to sing songs in that style for Jimmy to realistically expect decent financial profit from the debut album.

    I think that showdown scenario was a real possibility not too long ago, but from P2′s latest interviews I believe the danger’s past and P2′s finally arrived at some compromise with the label because he said there will also be songs in the vein of Home on the album.

    The truth is, at this point in his career, P2 needs Jimmy much more than Jimmy needs him. When Kelly butted head with Clive, she had already released two post Idol albums that had sold 15 mil copies, and had received numerous Grammy and other awards etc. That’s the only reason she was able to survive the feud. If there’s any bad blood between Jimmy and P2 and Jimmy clives him, P2 wouldn’t survive. His career would be over. But as I said, I think they were able to compromise.

  • TheOther

    I don’t even know where this so-called bad blood came from. I do know that Colton Dixon has said that he (Colton) and Jimmy butted heads and that they didn’t get along. But Colton has said several times that Phillip was way more diplomatic in working with Jimmy. Colton said this long before Phillip even won Idol.

  • KatMyers

    This “bad blood” as you put it was discussed here just two weeks ago.  Here is the thread which will give you the information:

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/is-phillip-phillips-doing-battle-with-his-record-label.htm 

  • OffLeash

    Why do I have the feeling diplomacy went out the door the day Jimmy refused to have P2 sing one of his songs for the finale and then later on because of the content of the debut album? So many comments have been made that could make the case for some kind of a showdown between Jimmy and P2. That said, I was saying in my post that I thought they had come to a compromise. So there shouldn’t be any bad blood.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    But Colton has said several times that Phillip was way more diplomatic in working with Jimmy. Colton said this long before Phillip even won Idol.

    That was specifically in the context of Iovine’s trash-talking to create a rivalry over which of the two lads was more popular with the ladies, though, not about musical direction. Zap2It has one of the clearer versions:

    But Dixon thinks its unfair to point out that the ladies love him. “Honestly, that really put me off. It really did. It got me wound up, and I’m sure I could go at it right now, but I had to bite my tongue in the studio and I think Phillip had to do the same thing. I even think Phillip handled it a little better than I did,”

    Dixon never does say how P2 actually reacted. P2′s major contribution is “[With] Jimmy, a lot of it’s just for show.”

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Winners and their Idol debuts:

    Kelly: Won 9/4/02, album 4/15/03
    Ruben: Won 5/21/03, album 12/9/03
    Fantasia: Won 5/26/04, album 11/23/04
    Carrie: Won 5/25/05, album 11/15/05
    Taylor: Won 5/24/06, album 12/12/06
    Jordin: Won 5/23/07, album 11/20/07
    David: Won 5/21/08, album 11/18/08
    Kris: Won 5/20/09, album 11/17/09
    Lee: Won 5/26/10, album 11/16/10
    Scotty: Won 5/25/11, album 10/4/11

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    P2 redemption’s of this song here is a little bit flat for most of the time, But the falsetto at the end was beautiful. P2 can do a good falsetto. lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    So, P2 is challenging himself as an exception for Idol winners?

    I wouldn’t say it’s a good strategy but he has a metaphysical luck. He’ll be just ok.

  • too-cool-for-school

    The problem with Katharine’s wouldn’t be so much the release date as it would be that it was a crap album, IMO. If the extra time helps better P2′s album, I’m in favor of it.

  • Karen C

    The other examples of Idols releasing albums before Christmas even though they were ill just show how it might have been better to wait and not rush the albums out, because none of those albums did that well. Part of the problem was little promotion, and also, there was even less time for artist development than usual.  And none of them had a single that did as well  as Home is doing, and they were all runner’s ups, not winners, who do get more promotion.

    If the result is a more focused and better quality album and it is properly promoted when it does come out, I could see that it would be better to wait. Especially if it is promoted on next year’s idol.

  • usedtobelucy

     ”Whatever the reasons are, it’s a very risky decision. I can’t remember
    any successful Idol album released so long after the end of the show,”

    Well, I’d say there has been one — Elliott’s, which was released in March of the following year. But that was March — quite a bit better sales month than February  — and the album had what turned out to be a very big radio single (huge huge huge radio single by indie standards). … And, of course, that radio single introduced/reintroduced him to people and, also of course, sold the album. Not actually relevant to PhilPhil’s case, I’d say — Elliott released pop stuff on an indie label, Phil will be releasing indie stuff on a pop label, for one thing, lol — but still evidence that sometimes strange things happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    The fury of 1 million suns doesn’t do justice in describing how much I despise  Crypt Keeper Clive. Kelly is damn lucky to have survived with her career and sanity intact after that scorched earth policy he applied trying to destroy her during the My December era. His insensitivity in holding his Grammy party while his biggest cash cow Whitney Houston lay dead a couple floors below should tell you all you need to know about him. Hope Phillip never has to deal with anyone like him at Interscope. Kelly had a tiny bit of leverage with her phenomenal voice, stellar cd and single sales going into that battle to help provide a safety net for her during the war. Whitney – she was WHITNEY… class all by herself. For better or worse NObody fucked with her. Phil ain’t got it like that going into this debut, so he and Interscope and Jimmy and whoever best bring the goods if they’re gonna drop in Jan or Feb.

  • Karen C

    The bad blood between P2 and the label is really just speculation.  It may or not be true. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/maria.romeo.900 Maria Romeo

    Well looks like were gonna have another idol with poor sales.  I know alot of people LOVE phillip, and i know his fans will deff stick by his side, but people forget easily.  Expescially with x factor and the voice being on in the fall once phillips album comes out there gonna be like OH YEA I remember him.  I know he wants to take time with the album, but that can happen with his 2nd and 3rd and so on.  The first album for an idol winner HAS to be released early, thats just how the idol machine works. This is why i always thought phillip was better off as a 3rd or 4th placer, he could take more time. Now im deff starting to think jessica is gonna sell better :) YES

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    What’s interesting about that list…if P2 does release Jan-Feb, his would be the latest and Scotty’s the earliest release (in terms of gap since winning)…that would definitely be a switch in strategies…

  • Chicagolaw

    It will be March. No way will he release in January or February unless the label is expecting poor sales and just doesn’t care.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Frankly, I think P^2 thinks his album is going to be delayed, but Interscope will make sure it is released before Christmas”

    That’s what happened with Crystal (her CD was released on Dec. 14), and I think that it’s exactly what will happen to P2. I would be very surprised if P2′s CD is released in 2013.

  • Jaejae1

    After reading all these comments, I think the people who manage the idols should sort of do what Jason Castro has done for his second album and what they did with Rachael Crow: Get a strong single out and then put out a 5 song EP with 2-3 strong songs on there.  Keep promoting your idol and keep them visible and audible promoting the single and EP while you take another 3-6 months to get a good album out that reflects well on the artist.  IF P2 is going to wait until Feb/March ( I know it won’t be January) to get an album out, he has to at least get a good EP out with orginal music and a new single out before then( Holiday time).  Especially if he is saying “Home” doesn’t represent the music he plans to do. 

  • girlygirltoo

    Rachel’s EP is doing nothing and she isn’t getting radio play at all. Jason has never sold well, although his current single is doing pretty well on the Christian charts. And neither of them have the pressure on them to sell big that P2 does. So I don’t know if they are great examples to use in terms of what P2 should do. An EP also could get lost in the flood of big releases (including Xmas albums) in November/December. Aside from Bieber, have non-Christmas EPs done well when they are released at that time of year? IDK.

    In general, it’s not a bad strategy to try and get an EP out there to try and keep your name out there. But it doesn’t sound like Interscope or Phillip has any intention of doing this.

  • OffLeash

    I think P2′s hubris will get in the way of releasing an EP, even though it would be the ideal strategy for him. P2 gives the impression he thinks very highly of himself as an artist, and will have nothing less than the “perfect” “real” album. I don’t believe in his humbleness when it comes to “his” music. And I’m a fan, so I’m saying that with love lol.

  • Anny_nanny

    Phillip didn’t pop or r&b, he can’t releasing an EP I think.
    If he has something to say, he must record a single. I’ll have to wait.

  • durbesque

    If Jimmy has some more Homes up his sleeve, they should just make a quick album that the public would love and buy.  But no-o-o, guy singers have to be songwriters.  Being a boysinger would be unmanly. 

    Carrie is smart.  She said she doesn’t write many of her songs, because other people write better songs than she does.     

  • julesb2183

    Not a good choice to wait on the album until January. Most Idols that wait to release an album don’t sell many.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    If Jimmy has some more Homes up his sleeve, they should just make a quick album that the public would love and buy.  But no-o-o, guy singers have to be songwriters.  Being a boysinger would be unmanly.

    Naaah, it’s that people who wanted to write their own songs before they went on Idol usually still want to write their own songs after they finish Idol.

    It’s not strictly gender-based: McCreery never touted himself as a songwriter and cheerfully recorded what Mercury Nashville gave him; Skylar Laine talked on the show about writing songs and is writing on her demos, and my impression was that Elise Testone was writing, too. Crystal Bowersox certainly was committed to doing her own writing.

  • OffLeash

    I’d love to know who came up with the idea of delaying the album until early next year. Jan/Feb doesn’t make sense for the label, the sales are awful at that time. I’m surprised really.

    If it was P2′s idea and Jimmy said “Oh OK P2. Whatever you say,” then I agree with those who said Jimmy’s tired of P2′s demands, is just going through the motions and will throw the album out there without caring much how well it does. The label’s already made very good money with Home, I’m not even sure they would take a loss, or else it would be minimal.

    Jimmy will have a new crop of hopefuls to promote in Jan-Feb. I bet he’ll use whatever influence he has to make sure the contestants they pick this year, who they think have a chance of winning, want it bad and want to be commercial successes. Jimmy doesn’t seem the type to want to deal with a difficult Idol, no matter how popular. Remember James Durbin?

  • KatMyers

    Yes, it is speculation, but based on some interesting coincidences and commentaries.  I believe I acknowledged in both posts that we are speculating and don”t really know what goes on behind closed doors hence the reference to “theories”.

  • standtotheright

    Carrie is smart. She said she doesn’t write many of her songs, because other people write better songs than she does. 

    When was that? Because she has 96 writing/cowriting credits on BMI. That’s not exactly dabbling.

    And you’re also assuming that said “quick album” would be full of Homes and something the public would love and buy, despite an indifferent track record for submitted songs for AI alumni and musicians in general.

  • hcpoirot

    This is a wrong move. January/feb album sales never been very good even if the album reach number one. Music is the same like movies. Release date is very important. Album that release from Oct-Dec usually sell the most in a year period.

  • standtotheright

    The label’s already made very good money with Home, I’m not even sure they would take a loss, or else it would be minimal.

    Assuming it’s sold 1.326 million copies and Interscope has received the usual 65 percent of the sales price (at $1.29, since it’s a new hit), and paid P2 11 cents per download in mechanical royalties and 9.1 cents per download to the writers in publishing royalties, then the label has pocketed $845K thus far.

    The winner still has some guaranteed advance (although one would assume it’s smaller than in the RCA era), and there will still be some production/promotion costs, so I don’t know that $845K is enough to balance the books just yet. But if Home keeps selling, which it appears likely to do, then yes, they probably don’t eat too much with a minimal Q1 effort.

  • OffLeash

    P2 gets the 300k contract, so it’s already paid for even if you consider label related expenses, which I’m sure some of it is included in the prize. Don’t forget the sales of the Idol journey albums, both physical and digital, then all the digital tracks P2 sold. That’s another 115k+204k=319k sales, although some of them were made before the contract, but still, money for the label.

    And I was also taking into account the sales of the debut album. It would still sell at least 100k in its lifetime for sure, it’s a very conservative number and it should sell at least that, and if the promo budget is minimal because they gave up on him, it would still make money for the label.

  • KatMyers

    The guaranteed advance is just that – an advance on future earnings but guaranteed in that any shortfall does not have to be paid back.  That means  any $$ PP generated through sales of “Home” are applied against the guarantee.  If it hadn’t sold well, there would have been no requirement to pay back any shortfall.  By the same token, what has been sold will not receive a royalty until units sold royalties equate to more than the guarantee amount paid.  This is how I have always understood it.

  • IrisandLilies

    First off, I don’t think Phillip would unilaterally change the timeframe for the release of his album.  Prior to this interview he was consistently stating that his album would be released some time in November/December.  If the release date has been pushed back, it is TPTB at Interscope who made that decision and advised Phillip of that fact prior to the interview.

    Second, why is it so preposterous that Jimmy and Interscope might want to develop Phillip as an artist.  As a sound engineer, Jimmy worked with John Lennon and Bruce Springsteen.  He also produced albums for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Stevie Nicks, and Patti Smith.  Jimmy is very familiar with the type of artist that Phillip wants to be.  Yes, Jimmy is in the business to make money, but at a certain age, a lot of successful people give a thought to the legacy they’re leaving behind.  Perhaps, Jimmy thinks Phillip has the potential to be an iconic artist, and he wants to be viewed as the producer that nurtured that talent to greatness.  (BTW, I am not making the claim that Phillip will be a great artist.)

    Third, I don’t see Jimmy automatically writing Phillip off simply because he might be “difficult” to work with.  Jimmy knew Phillip was “stubborn” about his artistic identity early on in AI.  Yet that didn’t stop Jimmy from using various tactics to get Phillip to focus on winning AI.  Moreover, he gave Phillip a song that was guaranteed to get him into the Top 2 (“We’ve Got Tonight”), and another song that helped him clinch the win.  I have always thought based on Jimmy’s comments and actions throughout the season that Phillip was the contestant that Jimmy wanted to win the AI title.   

    Last, why is it a given that the failure of some idols’ debut albums is due to the timing of their launch and not some other reason, such as the fact the album wasn’t any good or that the idol didn’t appeal to the buying public.  For example, Katharine McPhee’s album may not have done well because it was different from the way she portrayed herself as an artist on AI.   

  • OffLeash

    It’s funny. I thought at the time Jimmy had given P2 ”We’ve Got Tonight” because he thought he’d crash and burn because of the vocal range of the song, but I might be the only one thinking that after all.

    One thing that struck me was the look on Jimmy’s face right after P2′s triumphant top 2 Home performance. Jimmy looked like he was a bit worried. Again, maybe only my interpretation, but if you don’t remember his expression, check it out on YT and let me know what you think.

    As for the “legacy” part, I’m willing to bet Jimmy was enthusiastic about the music of those he helped promote when he was young. The difference with P2 is that Jimmy has a specific vision for him that P2 doesn’t seem to share. That’s a crucial difference IMO and cannot be compared with those he promoted in the past.

  • standtotheright

    By the same token, what has been sold will not receive a royalty until units sold royalties equate to more than the guarantee amount paid. This is how I have always understood it.

    It was strongly implied by some former winners that the coronation song and other AI performance royalties aren’t recoupable, so that’s why I’m not counting those on the Interscope ledger. The EPs are a more open question, since they haven’t been released in every year.

    Recoupment will, of course, be applied against the actual album.  But those advances are also exclusive of recording costs, so there’s another outlay that would have to be defrayed.

    At any rate, I’m really not disagreeing that Interscope has the ability to minimize losses and maybe even make a small profit with minimal Q1 promotion.  I just think the numbers help frame the discussion.

  • OffLeash

    I’m looking at the whole P2-Interscope financial relationship as a whole, meaning how much money they made off of him since the end of the show, independently of whether or not it’s connected to the 300k contract. I don’t think they’ll be losing money even after the 300k advance is computed in.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6G57FUYKQLV7F4FC3EGS3HA3FA Cherry

    I have a feeling interscope might be having a hard time dealing with PP when it comes to music (I hope I’m wrong but knowing PP during AI he love to “stick to his guns”). What happens to a new employee that doesn’t follow the company’s rules but prefers to do his own thing?

  • KatMyers

    You may be right but I’m not so sure.  I read the actual contract from last year and to the best of my recollection (I no longer have the contract – lost it when my HD crashed) it was as I outlined.  IDR about the pre-win revenue (weekly songs and year end EP) but first single and record definitely counted towards the advance.  While initially PP denied “Home” was his first single, I think that proclamation has been dispelled so I think my original view that royalties generated from the sales of “Home” are recoverable.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    i dont think this is p2´s decision. He said, “i guess” they are trying to give me more time to make an album that represents me.

    The label right now wants p2 promote the single home as much as he can, he has a really busy schedule until october with no days off. It would be easy 4 them to took one free day and record more raw songs.

    February is not a good idea, as he said: “i hope” people still look 4 his album.

  • standtotheright

    I think that depends on the definition of “first single.” In some years the coronation song didn’t even make the album tracklist, or was relegated to a bonus track. IMO, the “first single” would need to feature in the main tracklisting. 

    With Home, it’s a more interesting case because it is an album worthy track, unlike most of the others. But I still think it makes more sense to assume that all coronation songs were treated equally for single sales and royalty purposes, and recoupment only factors in when they are purchased as part of the respective albums.

  • KatMyers

    As I said, you may be right.  Until the album comes out we won’t know if Home is on it.  But if it is, and I bet it will be, then there is every reason to believe it counts towards the advance.  Why wouldn’t it be on the album is maybe a better question. I doubt the label is quite that benevolent and desireous of giving PP more money than it can get away with. In the end, it really makes no difference to me – just interesting debate lol.

  • OffLeash

    February is not a good idea, as he said: “i hope” people still look 4 his album.

    Oh well, at least he’s being realistic about the unfavorable conditions for an album release at that time. I really wish P2 and Jimmy would seriously consider an EP release for the holidays. Sigh.

  • blackberryharvest

     

    To make things worse, by the time the album drops, there will have been 2
    full seasons of competitive talent shows, The Voice S3 and XF S2, and a
    new season of The Voice S4 and Idol S12 underway.

    Maybe the X Factor, but The Voice will have no influence what so ever. Nobody seems to get invested in those contestants, since its more about the judges-their album sales aren’t good on that show at all. With the X Factor, its also more about the judges, and based on the first season, people aren’t that invested in the X Factor contestants compared to idol. But I think they will be a little better than The Voice as far as ANY contestant success-which the Voice fails at.

  • durbesque

    They were Carrie’s exact words.  I don’t follow her, but I think it was on that songwriters’ panel that she said it.  She sang a song that I never heard before, and her voice was astoundingly gorgeous.  I should become a fan really.

    Regarding the ‘quick album’…. I’m not assuming that Jimmy has a boatload of folky hits….but IF he has enough to stretch into an album, I think they should strike while the iron is hot.  It’s hard to rekindle a fire, especially in the dead of winter.    

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    You’re right, at first Carrie had more of a cautious approach to songwriting and was more comfortable singing the work of more established writers. On her first album there’s just one co-write, a song about her hometown. Over time she gained more confidence in her songwriting abilities and did more of it for subsequent albums but I don’t ever see Carrie pulling a Taylor Swift and having sole writing credits for every song on an album. Something like that doesn’t seem like a priority for her.

    I am really wondering about this January/February date and how recent a development it is. I guess that ad for “FUN & CATCHY, with big sing-along CHORUSES” was a bust or maybe a turning point? Feud or not the ad didn’t really go over well and maybe the reaction caused a rethink of the album’s musical direction?

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    That’s interesting, as Underwood does have a standard interview answer that’s phrased similarly but doesn’t actually add up to “I’m not a good songwriter.” Here she is in a late-May interview promoting the Blown Away album:

    “It’s awesome if [I help] write a great song,” explained the singer. “I’m not stupid though. I want the best songs on there, and just because I didn’t write it doesn’t mean I can’t make it believable … And I’m not trying to get my name on songs that I didn’t write.”

    The context is an album on which she has writing credits on 8 of the 14 songs, so what she’s explaining is not a reluctance to write or an inability to write.

    In any case, it’s her choice. Plenty of bands write virtually all their own material, so wanting to write one’s own songs isn’t an eccentricity of a handful of Idol winners.

  • windmills

    durbesque: They were Carrie’s exact words.  I don’t follow her, but I think it was on that songwriters’ panel that she said it.  She sang a song that I never heard before, and her voice was astoundingly gorgeous.  I should become a fan really.

    Though Carrie isn’t exactly the kind of person to toot her own horn as a songwriter, I don’t think she’s ever said “she doesn’t write many of her songs, because other people write better songs than she does.” Here’s the full video from the CMA Songwriters Series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztpwdfBf8s I don’t think there’s any point at which she says she doesn’t write many of her own songs. She was obviously very respectful of the professional songwriters/friends she was performing with that night, whom she’s learned a lot from. They returned the favor, with Hillary Lindsey commenting that Carrie may not be writing every week and all the time but she writes a lot. 

    What Carrie usually does say when asked about how important songwriting is to her is what Eilonwy quoted, which is that though she enjoys writing and takes pride in cowriting some of her songs, she’d be stupid to ignore the work of the incredible songwriters in Nashville. She reiterated that comment this week at the #1 party for Good Girl, where she was asked if she feels like she doesn’t get enough credit as a songwriter, considering she’s now cowritten 7 #1 country hits. Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKIYLpZauDM&feature=player_embedded

    As far as P2 waiting until 2013 to release his new album, if that’s what it takes for him to get comfortable with cowriters and producers to come up with a version of himself he & his label people can believe in, then that’s what’s important. A quickie album loaded with non-cowrites that turn into singles might just delay the inevitable even if the singles were hits for P2. A December album would still be a rush job. And, there are P2′s health issues to consider. A Feb/March launch would give him the opportunity to promote 1st week sales on AI though he obviously wouldn’t have the holiday window to accrue big sales over a month or 6 weeks.

    Maybe a compromise could be to release an EP during the holiday season featuring Home and maybe a couple more originals/covers everybody can agree on, with a full length album coming later. It seems like the new contracts provide for that option, right?

  • durbesque

    I’ll check out the CMA…I enjoyed it and wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

    The reason I urge Phillip and Jimmie to put out an album asap has to do with the fragile faux economy.  Nobody knows how long it will hold together, or rather, how long the ruling elite want it to hold together.  They sold us on globalization so they could send industry overseas and bury us under crushing debt. 

    A smart businessman like Jimmie certainly knows what’s going on and what’s inevitable.  I wouldn’t expect Phillip to have a clue, but his father seems sharp and could talk some sense into Junior’s idealistic head.  Of course, next year could be the same as this year, but I wouldn’t count on it.