American Idol Judges: Enrique Iglesias is OUT Randy Jackson BACK IN

The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Randy Jackson is back IN as FOX stops negotiations with Enrique Iglesias:

The game of musical chairs at American Idol continues, with Fox pulling the plug on negotiations with Enrique Iglesias to fill a judge’s seat, according to a source close to the show.

Iglesias had been eyed as a possible fourth judge, joining the already-announced Mariah Carey, as well as Nicki Minaj and Keith Urban, both of whom are said to be wrapping up deals to join the show’s 12th season. Randy Jackson, a judge since the show’s 2002 debut, was said to be moving to a mentor role on the show.

But now Fox, producers Fremantle Media and 19 Entertainment are said to have abandoned that scenario in favor of returning Jackson to the judge’s panel. It’s not clear what derailed the Iglesias plan, though money is always an issue with talent show judges.

Dang. Randy Jackson is like that Twinkie that survives a nuclear holocaust. There’s no getting rid of him! Reportedly, an announcement will be made before the end of September.

Via The Hollywood Reporter

  • http://www.facebook.com/maria.romeo.900 Maria Romeo

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • lovesickheroine

    Why can’t they hire Adam? geez! So this might mean Jimmy Iovine will be back as a mentor

  • TheGreatXL

    Yo, yo, yo, dawg. He’s iiiiiin it to win it like a hot lava molten bomb in the dawg pound!

    …Can someone please call one of the Jonas brothers instead? It’d be better than another season of Randy-isms.

  • windmills

    This will not end until Kristy Lee Cook becomes an Idol judge.

  • a445

    Anything but this!!!!!!

  • Stavros

    Randy is like that contestant that ends up in the Bottom 3 every single week but is somehow miraculously saved every single time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/huba.buba.545 Huba Buba

    OMG NOOOO!! I´m gonna have to mute my telly again, every time he tries to make sentence. NOT HAPPY AT ALL!!

  • jdanton2

    As i said in the other thread would prefer Randy over 
    Enrique. Adam could be interesting but i do find the dawg entertaining.

  • elliegrll

    I think that Enrique will regret if if he’s not able to reach a deal with AI.  It’s not that he needs to be on the panel, but it would still provide him with a lot of benefits.

    I guess it is good that Randy will provide some stability, and will be a familiar face.  He’s going to have to change though, and provide more than he did this past season.  I wonder if Mariah’s personality will be different if Randy isn’t on the panel, she may be more comfortable with him there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh joy. *barf*

  • Quaribea

    Ahhhh… The drama.  Oh, the pain.  But I’ll believe he’s on the chair when I see it in the auditions.  There are too many other options, and now that they’ve gone there, with the whole dropping him from the panel, it will be easy to see it happen again.

  • whoisthatwoman

    …or maybe a cockroach.  Can’t get rid of them either.

  • SullyD

    HELL NO. I’m all “in love” with Nicki but I’ll think TWICE if Randy is a judge again.

    But I’m not very sure about this news. Wasn’t the producers all “concerned” about having 3 “african-americans” on the panel and that’s why Pharrell, Diddy and Kanye weren’t hired?
    Man, if we get Randy instead of those other possibilities I’ll be “kind of” cross.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    LMAO!! I always said here, many times, that Randy is like that useless fodder who’s always surviving the bottom 3 and refuses to go home week after week. American Idol will end and somehow Randy will still be a judge.

    Dawg is back, and he’s in to win it! The world will forget who Steve Perry was but will always remember the name of who played bass on Journey for 15 minutes.

  • Garrett Clayman

    THEN JUST DO THREE JUDGES!!! RANDY ISNT BRINGING IN ANY VIEWERS!!!! ID RATHER HAVE 4 STARS OR EVEN 3 STARS AND AN EXEC THAT HIM!!!! UGH!!! AND I WANTED ENRIQUE TOO!

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Maybe FOX got cold feet about a complete judge overhaul and they want Randy there for continuity. They probably would have gone with Enrique if it had worked out, but since it didn’t, they decided to fall back to Randy instead of going with some of the other options. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    lol, I’ve been saying the same thing.

    I actually like him, he gives this kind of human perspective to the show. If he can be a judge, any of us can be! LMAO

  • http://twitter.com/tukicarreno Tuki

    Oh no! No more Idol for me. 
    Pls Randy no.

  • durbesque

    This is the worst news possible.  Anybody but Randy…I mean it.

    I never did believe that an electrifying performer like Enrique would be satisfied to sit around and judge a karaoke contest. 

  • Jazz_11

    I’m going to use Randy’s statement: For you.. for me.. for you.. dawg.. don’t listen everything you hear..

    LOL

  • http://twitter.com/Lillyfield2 Cherry Lillyfield

    Oh well, I don’t plan on watching this year regardless

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

    Sigh! Enrique, Randy – I don’t care. Just let it be over, pleeeeeze. 

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Even though Idol went after Enrique, I never thought he was ever seriously interested.  And quite frankly, I think Nicki is waffling.  I wouldn’t be surprised if she decides to bail too.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Randy will be now Mariah’s puppet. It’s like having just one judge. We need another diva as a judge to compete with her. I think Honey Boo Boo would be a good option.

  • SullyD

    You guys read Hollywood Reporter way more than me, so have HR ever posted something that was untrue?
    Because if this report was posted by any other site I wouldn’t even care, but thet fact that it’s “HR” concerns me :|

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “And quite frankly, I think Nicki is waffling.  I wouldn’t be surprised if she decides to bail too.”

    If that happens, will they bring back JLo? lol

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Oh my God, Really!? Blah! In that case, would it be a bad thing to kick out Nicki? Seriously a Mariah/Keith/Randy may not be the most exciting, but sounds a lot more balanced, where now it feels even more like Nicki is pure stunt casting. At least Enrique added the all star celebrity aspect of it all.

    I’m really not that much of an Adam Lambert fan, but I’m genuinely disappointed that TPTB did not pick him as the fourth judge. He overwhelmingly had the most positive press coverage of all the rumoured judges, even more than Mariah. How could you not give what it sounds like what the public wants most? Hell, since some people outside of the intense Idol bubble wanted Randy to stay, why not replace Nicki with Adam? With Enrique out, and Randy in, Nicki now feels out of place. 

    With all that said, I really do not care for Randy “In It To Win It, Dog” Jackson to come back :(

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that when Shirley Halperin writes something in the HR, it’s true, because she has an inside line to AI. This was written by someone else, so I don’t know her record.

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    This is just getting ridiculous.  At this point, I feel as if Fox and AI are just laughing their asses off at everyone following this clusterfuck.  If this is true, however, Randy’s television appearances today make more sense.  I know the purpose was ostensibly to discuss diabetes, but that’s a condition he’s had for some time, and will have for the rest of his life.  Why have him do appearances at this particular time, if not to get his name and face back out there in advance of the Big Reveal?

    That being said, I will believe nothing until a formal announcement is made. 

  • http://twitter.com/tukicarreno Tuki

    Sorry duplicate post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymar Raymar Casillas

    :-/

  • cooks

    Oh my head hurts from all this..who is who isn’t going to be the judge nonsense!!
    Just do it and get it over with!

  • blissful2

    Maybe Mariah is holding them over a barrel in regards to Randy’s role.

    Dang he is going to outlast them all, including Ryan.  I just hope he will not get the pimp judge spot.

  • Guest
  • elliegrll

    Wasn’t the producers all “concerned” about having 3 “african-americans” on the panel and that’s why Pharrell, Diddy and Kanye weren’t hired?

    It’s more like some posters were worried about this.  I think that the producers would have jumped at the chance to have a panel that featured both Nicki and Sean Combs, even though Enrique would appeal to a broader base.  Nicki would bring the relevance, Sean the soundbites, and both of them would bring the show a lot of media coverage.

    The same goes for Kanye, but I doubt that he would want to take time out to do the show.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     Or over Nicki.  I’m sure Mariah is still angling to be the only female.

  • everything

    No surprise.  After all, he is Mariah’s manager.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     It was mention on TMZ that was the case (not just here).

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    I’m completely bummed and glad I have a bottle of wine in the fridge.

  • http://twitter.com/Free_in_march El oh El

    “Why’d ya keep comin’, why’d ya keep comin’ baaaaaaaackkkkkk. Take yo train down another traa ack” HR x)

  • angiedb

    YAY!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    I don’t see how it’s right to have Randy and Mariah with their relationship, talk about an alliance! And I can’t imagine Randy, Mariah and Nicki because Randy will just sit there as the two of them act out or crazy Mariah talks about something irrelevant. UGH. 

  • elliegrll

    At least Enrique added the all star celebrity aspect of it all.

    Enrique isn’t a bigger star right now than Nicki, and he’s not going to bring as much attention to the show as she will.

    He overwhelmingly had the most positive press coverage of all the rumoured judges, 

    I missed this.  except for one article by EW that was a rehash of other news, Adam stopped being mentioned in the US press long ago.  Most of the early press was just repeating what E said.  Nicki and others have had more press.  As far as what the public wants, based on any metric that you want to use, sales, buzz, media attention, etc., all of the other candidates that have mentioned are far ahead of Adam.

  • Kirsten

    Randy Jackson is like that Twinkie that survives a nuclear holocaust.

    Truly he is.

    Oh well, at least he’ll save the producers a few bucks over Enrique.

    (or maybe this is just an attempt to brush Enrique off the plate so they can finalize things).

    You’d think they would go with three judges instead of adding back Randy. Yo.

  • koshka

    If this happens, I will laugh my ass off. I might even watch the show for its shark circling.. train wreck aspect. 

    ETA: the only thing about Randy that makes me go.. huh? is why didn’t give a more positive response during the talk show circuit. I realize he still needs to say nothing of substance, but you’d think he would have done a little wink, wink, nod, nod.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelby.walker.5011 Shelby Walker


    He overwhelmingly had the most positive press coverage of all the rumoured judges, even more than Mariah.”

    This is a joke, right? You’re just funnin’ us, right? No way you mean it. No way. 

  • quickjessie

    Glad the Voice is on twice a year because that’s it for AI for me.  Cannot stand this guy.

    While the world changes, Idol stays in it’s comfortable boring rut.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    It was just based on the reaction I saw from the press that really like the idea of Adam being a judge. The media really remembers him strongly, and still appreciate his talent from Idol. I guess shouldn’t have used “overwhelmingly” to begin with. Wrong word. Shouldn’t have compared him to Mariah even. A mistake there, too. 

  • Kirsten

    Poor Mister Nigel had troubles of his own
    He had a useless judge who wouldn’t leave the show
    He tried and he tried to get the judge to leave
    He got the man at Fox, to give the guy the heave

    But the judge came back, the very next day
    The judge came back, we thought he was a goner
    But the judge came back, he just couldn’t stay away
    Away, away, yea, yea, yea

    The fans around the world swore they’d fire the judge on sight,
    They loaded up petitions with pleas for all their might
    They waited and they waited for the judge to get the boot
    Ninety seven interviews and offers of lots of loot

  • Guest

    Yay! Randy over Minaj… please make it so…. please!

    Randy, Adam, Keith and Mariah…. please…

  • koshka

    Can we get nicki to rap this?

  • Pippygirl

    I’m actually not all that surprised tbh. They already have Jimmy Iovine in the mentor role and I think they want to keep Randy as a connection to the past. Do they really need another relevant music artist if they have Mariah, Keith and Nicki?
    At least they don’t have to give Randy a performance spot. *silver lining*

  • jpfan2

    They’re not going to have 3 male judges and one female. If Nicki bails they can just go with 3 judges which I much prefer to 4 anyway.

    At a certain point, they’ll have to announce the judges so all this nonsense will be over. I did wonder why Randy was out there on all the talk shows today though. Odd, odder.

  • Karen C

    @ simoncowell on twitter:

    Just heard randy is back on idol. Right decision.

    ————————————————————-

    Is this some kind of confirmation?

  • Karen C

    If it’s true about Randy Jackson, I wonder if it’s because he’s such good friends with Mariah, and they said that she had to be tested with the potential judges.

  • Jazz_11

    XFactor and Idol are in the same network, FOX. There’s NO WAY Fox going to to that to their other show or Simon Cowell. They might trying to take the buzz away from The Voice, but NOT from the XFactor.

  • koshka

    Poor 4 million dollar Keith. I hope he signed a short contact. 

  • koshka

    You’d think… but how much of this has actually made sense so far?

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

    RANDY IS LIKE THAT LITTLE MOSQUITO THAT FLIES IN YOUR HOUSE THAT YOU JUST CAN’T GET RID OF. I guess FOX no longer cares if they have an all-African American panel just like they didn’t care all our winners were WGWGs since 2007

  • mileyfan123

     Keith Urban is african american?

  • Kirsten

     

    I guess FOX no longer cares if they have an all-African American panel

    I’m not entirely certain, but I’m pretty sure that Keith Urban is neither African nor American. I’ll go check.

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

    Mariah is so reminiscent of J. Lo to me and Keith for some reason reminds me of Steven in terms of looks (even though I imagine Keith in 30 years). At least Nicki would have been unpredictable.

  • Kitwana

    Congrats to Randy. Give the guy credit for sticking around. I think that with a better script writer, he could be a far more interesting judge.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that as unpopular as Randy may be around this site, this site does not necessarily reflect the demo that Idol wants to appeal to. Idol may have research showing that Randy is very popular with the teen/tween demo. I know Randy’s show America’s Best Dance Crew is very popular.

  • SullyD

     Oh boy…

  • Montavilla

    This is distressing.

  • jpfan2

    IF it’s true (big IF), I think it’s a not a terrible idea. Idol just can’t be the Voice or the XF. I like Nicki but would even be happier with just 3 judges.

  • http://www.randrambles.com Rand

    Randy the Twinkie! Hilarious!

  • everything

    I think if Nick Jonas hadn’t gone on to be a mentor on the X-Factor, he would have filled the last spot.  At this point, they are running out of time. I don’t have problem with Randy. I can think of worse choices.

  • koshka

    ‘ Idol may have research showing that Randy is very popular with the teen/tween demo. I know Randy’s show America’s Best Dance Crew is very popular”

    Darn!! it was that “YO!” pin he wore wasn’t it. That probably did say “COOL” to the tweens. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

    Guys! What if they bring back Paula Abdul! It’ll be her comeback like with Cheryl Cole returning as a guest mentor on XFUK.

  • koshka

    I would even take Nick over Randy. Up until about 2 seasons ago, I was a huge fan of Randy’s. Now he is more like company that just won’t leave. 

  • http://www.randrambles.com Rand

    This is gonna be The X Factor season one all over again.

  • luvadamlambert

    YESSSSSSSS MY DAY HAS JUST BEEN MADE :D
    Even with no Adam HERE this is AMAZING no Enrique

  • Barbara Schneier

     Your timeline confuses me. You say that this is happening this weekend through next Monday, but you think it will be announced this weekend. Could you explain that more?

  • http://twitter.com/JingleBell72 Merle Hill

    If Adam isn’t a judge a lot of people will not watch the show, including me.  He is the best person to be a judge.  He would offer constructive positive advice.  Adam is also very honest,  Love the guy to pieces.  His 2 albums were fantastic.

  • elliegrll

    XFactor and Idol are in the same network, FOX. There’s NO WAY Fox going to to that to their other show or Simon Cowell. They might trying to take the buzz away from The Voice, but NOT from the XFactor.

    I would agree, but  Simon confirming the information is his way of trying to take away some of AI’s thunder, so it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the people at American Idol tried to do the same to him.  There may not be an official announcement from Fox, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a leak on Wednesday that resulted in some of the AI producers speaking to the press.

  • Barbara Schneier

    I don’t believe this! It makes no sense!! I haven’t seen this anywhere else but here!!

  • Pat S

    WHAT THE HECK. GET RID OF HIM.

  • sue

    Lols I am actually happy that Randy is back. :)  Plus now when he talks about working with Mariah, she is right there next to him. With all the changes I need Randy to be there for me. haha

  • elliegrll

    If Adam isn’t a judge a lot of people will not watch the show, including me.  He is the best person to be a judge.  He would offer constructive positive advice.  Adam is also very honest,  Love the guy to pieces.  His 2 albums were fantastic.

    His second album has sold less than 150,000 copies, so how many people could he actually lure to the show?  How much buzz?  How would his inclusion change the make-up of the audience or the voting demo?  

    Randy wouldn’t be so bad, if he could take on a leadership role like he did during the first two live shows of season ten.   He would be a connection to the past, and could help the other judges.

  • Karen C

    ..just like they didn’t care all our winners were WGWGs since 2007

    Oh, I didn’t realize Jordin Sparks is a WGWG……. 

  • koshka

    You missed it… you know, the whole American Idol makeover. They did total redo. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/LaCingara Cingara

    If anyone in the Iglesias family should be a judge, it should be the HUGE HUGE Latin/Spanish star, Julio Iglesias, Enrique and Julio’s father, who ironically got his start in a 1970 Eurovision singing competition with a song he wrote, “Gwendolyn.” Very handsome, very nice voice and phrasing, had hundreds and hundreds of hits.
    And he pretty much built his sons’ careers from early on. Feast your ears, this guy can really sing.
    One if his hits:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3adryBK_Sl0&feature=related
    Gwendolyne
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ARdR61Umw
     

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

    Duh. She plays guitar you know. And she’s half white. White girl with guitar. Derp.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    I guess he will only walk away from the judge table in a coffin ;)

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

     Randy never was and never will be in the leadership role. The head judge has always been Simon and when he left J. Lo seemed more like the head judge than Randy. (The seat on the far right does not always mean that they are the leader of the panel. J. Lo most likely sat in the middle because the female judges always sit in the middle with the male judges on the outer a la X Factor)

  • abbysee

    Not upset. Not keen on Enrique in the least. Was okay with Randy’s new role, but Enrique just was baffling to me. Just doesn’t seem right for the job. I do think this changes things for Ms. Ninaj though. I just don’t see Mariah, Nikki, Keith and Randy. Not quite right Imho.

  • elliegrll

    Not upset. Not keen on Enrique in the least. Was okay with Randy’s new role, but Enrique just was baffling to me. Just doesn’t seem right for the job. I do think this changes things for Ms. Ninaj though. I just don’t see Mariah, Nikki, Keith and Randy. Not quite right Imho.

    Nicki is the shows Big Get, their answer to Britney Spears.  If Nicki or someone  who is on her level and who is also different from the other judges, isn’t on the panel, then the producers know that they are looking at another big ratings drop that will make last year’s look small.  They also know that they are giving up a golden opportunity for a lot of free press before the show even airs.

  • overthetop1

    So tired of Randy Jackson. They should go hire Ben Folds for 0.5 million. He’s a thousand times better than Randy.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Yes, that’s exactly how I’m feeling. There is something very….mature about Randy/Mariah/Keith combo, then throw Nicki in and it feels really random. I think she should be taken out of the equation, honestly. She more than ever looks like stunt casting.

  • dabney c

    Gaaaah! Just read the headline. Really?? Sorry, people, but I’m happy about this.  I know, I know, it’s somewhat irrational, but I can’t help craving a connection to Idol past — even in the form of Randy Jackson, lol.

    Ok, now I’ll go read all the comments …

  • mileyfan123

    I’m skeptical of this report. I have a feeling someone at the hollywood reporter saw the media rounds Randy was making today, and said lets run with a story of Randy staying a judge. Maybe the producers nudged them into it too. I think they would stick with 3 judges (Nicki, Keith, Mariah) over going with Randy as a 4th judge. I feel like there is a darkhorse anyway for the 4th spot…

  • durbesque

    HERE COME DA JUDGE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/esther.macha Esther Macha

    I think Adam would lure watchers to the show. He was very popular when he was on and and I think alot of people would be very interested in seeing him again.

  • yksask

     There are a lot of very popular AI alumni that would draw fans too the show.

  • http://www.facebook.com/esther.macha Esther Macha

    I totally agree. I think the shows been on long enough to have an alumni as a judge and there are several who i think could handle it just fine.

  • http://twitter.com/Skyler_Epic Skyler Epic

    All of this hype and speculation for months…. to wind up with this.
    Hopefully, we can get Adam Lambert instead of Nicki Minaj.
    If not, this is fairly disappointing news. I was so looking forward to be hearing little to no Randy. Ugh. *puke*

  • fantoo1

    So you are just now bailing after 11 seasons with Randy? Lol so what made you stick around all those other seasons with him on there?

  • HotHotHot

    I still think Adam will be the 4th judge.

  • alterego

    LOL, I remember the case being made that with all the changes to the show, it will be good to have someone with Idol ties on the panel. 

    Randy Jackson certainly has Idol ties.

  • http://twitter.com/TylerWV TylerWV

    Good grief!  Thought we got rid of him.  I couldnt even stand to watch him on the View today and flipped the channel.  Guess he will make out like a bandit with his Idol salary and twenty percent manager cut from Mariah’s earnings. 

  • elliegrll

    He can’t lure people into buying his album, so how is he going to lure New people into watching the show?  That’s the huge difference, out of all of the possible choices, people like Nicki, Enrique, and Kanye are pretty much the only ones who can bring in new and younger viewers, which is what the show needs.  If some laxed viewers who are fans of Adam came back, because he got the slot, that would be nice, but they probably wouldn’t be in a desired demographic, and there wouldn’t be a lot of them to make a difference,  so what’s the point?

    Some of the things that have been said against Nicki highlight why program directors don’t pay attention to American Idol fans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000145502540 Kellen Murphy

    Pick 3 judges and stick with them.

  • fantoo1

    I wonder if Randy has some embarrassing pictures of Simon Fuller/Nigel Lythgoe somewhere…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    Randy is like an old shoe….I like old shoes, very comfy.

  • abbysee

    I understand that Big Get idea but it just doesn’t feel right! Britney was the answer to xtina. If they could have nabbed Pink or Katy, that would have made more sense given both their track records and that they are mainstream enough not to scare idol’s core demo. Some seem to want Nicki for the buzz and potential mayhem she could bring. Nothing about her makes me feel that after that initial surge they may get that she will be seen as nothing more than stunt casting. Maybe she will prove me wrong, nothing would please this idoltard more, but I’m skeptical given the few recent thoughts she shared about her idol judging style.

  • fantoo1

    Why Adam? There are a dozen other alumni that deserve a spot more than him.

  • Goodie2

    THIS IS TERRIBLE NEWS.  Iknow RJ was on The View but didnt see him – This ruins the panel – you have these stars and then more stupid dawg talk.  I m not a big fan of the Voice but saw the first 90 minutes tonight and had to say I actually liked it – Not sure about the rest of the format – i think they start sinking esp when it goes live…but the judges had good banter, there was some good singing and these really are stars in their genres…although I did laugh when they kept saying the show was gonna change peoples lives and make someone a superstar and I thought, I cant even remember the name of the guy that won a few months ago .  I am excited to see what XF brings and whether it will beat the Voice or not…(if not, its gonna get soooo much bad press)…I was lookign forward to a brand new Idol and a new generation of Idol with 4 superstars and now they sucker us with the same crappy non-judge who never says anything productive and I guess they will save money…Cmon people – theres got to be another singer anxious for the publicity even for 5 million and not 15?(

  • merkureye

    Randy staying feels right to me.  For AI and its longtime fans, he is the anchor to the shows past success.  Can you imagine Carrie coming back and she doesn’t know anybody but Ryan?  Also, I don’t think AI is totally broken.  A clean sweep of the judges is just an admission that the creators and producers of AI had completely lost their way.

    I also recommend that AI establish a fixed order for the judges critiques.  Steven, JLo, and Randy alternating didn’t work for me.  There has to be a chief-among-equals on the panel.  The last judge has a different role to play (ie. comment on performance and summarize with pithy statement).  Last year Randy filled the “last judge” role better than either Steven or JLo (JLo was a helluva lot better than Steven).  I prefer at least initially, that Randy go last until someone else emerges who can and will do it better.    

  • LLA1535

     I thought Nigel was the head judge LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=195101108 Stefan Wind

    At this point I can careless if Randy is there or not. I’m just hopeful that Nikki will still be a judge, so I can stay awake for the entire 2 hours of EVERY broadcast. 

  • koshka

    “Why Adam? There are a dozen other alumni that deserve a spot more than him.”

    I agree.. lots of idols could do it.. but as its been discussed, many are not in a position to do the show. Or maybe they don’t want to. I suspect winners like Kelly or Carrie have better things to do with their time. How do we know that Adam isn’t 13th on the list? 
    BTW – I can’t stand the word deserve in context with AI. How do you define deserve? An idol that has been run over by the bus one too many times? The idol that won, but never produced? The idol that is most humble? The idol that already has experience doing reality tv? The idol that was once successful, but is not longer relevant? I’d be curious of who would be on your list. Not saying they aren’t valid candidates, but for what AI is trying to do, I don’t think I can count more than half a dozen, if that.

  • Montavilla

    He can’t lure people into buying his album, so how is he going to lure New people into watching the show?  That’s the huge difference, out of all of the possible choices, people like Nicki, Enrique, and Kanye are pretty much the only ones who can bring in new and younger viewers, which is what the show needs.  If some laxed viewers who are fans of Adam came back, because he got the slot, that would be nice, but they probably wouldn’t be in a desired demographic, and there wouldn’t be a lot of them to make a difference,  so what’s the point?

    I agree with you about Adam probably not having the star power to lure new viewers to the show in the way that Nicki Minaj or Enrique Iglesias could.  But I don’t think that would have been the point of adding him to the panel.  Randy isn’t going to lure in new viewers, either.

    The point of either Randy or Adam would be to provide continuity with past seasons.  Not that Adam is special in that regard.  Any past alumni could provide that including the Big Three (Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry).  

    But what I think Adam (and probably Clay) would do that Randy has never been able to do is provide clear, articulate, interesting criticism.  I think that could help sustain viewer interest after the initial buzz from the big-name stars has worn off.  We’ve seen that this is not an easy thing to pull off.  

    I don’t think any of the rumored judges is capable of being the “mean” judge, the way that Simon was in his prime.  But I’ll be on their side if they can be honest and interesting.  I’m not writing any of them off at this point.

    Except Randy because I know he’s not convincing on the judges panel.  I was interested in seeing him move to a mentor role.  It offered some interesting possibilities for backstage video.  He is lovable, and I could see that being a new, very fun addition to the show.  Sort of like the Tim Gunn role.

  • roarpen

    At this point, just wake me up when it is decided. I’m taking a nap – lol!

  • koshka

    “Except Randy because I know he’s not convincing on the judges panel.  I was interested in seeing him move to a mentor role.  It offered some interesting possibilities for backstage video.  He is lovable, and I could that being a new, very fun addition to the show.  Sort of like the Tim Gunn role.”

    I mentioned earlier that I was a Randy fan up until a few seasons ago. I really like this idea. Randy as Tim Gunn !! Love that.

  • snow_ghost

    Or put Adam in the Tim Gunn role.   That might work better because he has been a contestant and he’s had years of vocal training.   It would be like peer counseling.    That actually would be awesome.  :) 

  • sdmama

    Why not other alumni? You have to as that to Fox. For whatever the reason, Adam is the only alumni they asked that we know of. 
     

  • everything

    Lambert would have been totally out of his element if he had to mentor Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina.  Besides, the mentor role is Jimmy Iovine.  The guy is the chairman of a major label. 

    Other former contestants could indeed have been asked and said no – we don’t know for sure. It’s just that Lambert has made it very well known he wants the job.

  • girlygirltoo

    reportedly they reached out to several alumni about participating in some fashion. for all we know they could have asked other Idols if they had any interest in being a judge, just to be told “no”. 

    this report says nothing about Adam being back in the mix, so why is his name being brought up again?

  • brightones

    Simon just confirmed that Randy is back as a judge:

    Simon Cowell?
    @SimonCowellJust heard randy is back on idol. Right decision.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Cowell’s “confirmation” presumably comes from reading the same THR article as the rest of us, of course…

  • brightones

    There are others more qualified than Adam to be a judge, and he’s out anyway.  It’s been confirmed that Randy is back as a judge.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Other former contestants could indeed have been asked and said no – we don’t know for sure. It’s just that Lambert has made it very well known he wants the job.

    Uh….yeah. Except no.   It’s not always about what the adorable, humble, publicity-shy little snowflakes want. It’s about what their management and PR team decide to do to promote them.  Every other former Idol contestants’ management and PR would have been ALL OVER any suggestion that their client was up for such a high-profile job. This is show business, not church camp where humility counts.  ;) Actually, I’m more okay with Randy getting his old job back than I was with Enrique. I just could not get past Enrique’s awfulness on XFactor.  I feel kind of bad for saying that  because he seems like a nice guy who is basically shy.  That’s why this wouldn’t be his thing. It would be a risk because people can turn very quickly on AI judges.  His recording and touring career is healthy and in high gear. He’s smart to stick to that. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Confirmed? This is just a rumor, like the one that said Enrique was in for sure. Mariah is the only one who is confirmed at this point.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Because SOME people want him over Randy or Iglesia? Just like some wants Nicki out and prefer 3 judges. Opinions.

    I’m not sure about other AI alumni being asked, if there were some other than Adam that were being considered I’m sure it’s already mentioned in the press.

  • http://twitter.com/AmirHazwan Amir Hazwan ?

    Anyone but Adam please

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”Lambert would have been totally out of his element if he had to mentor Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina.”

    Yeah, just like Carrie can’t mentor Jessica because she’s R&B/Urban or Durbin because he’s metal, right?

    What I’m saying is, these singers are professional. They will judge/mentor based on talents/techniques not by genre.

  • snow_ghost

    Why all the Adam hate.  LOL.   I didn’t suggest that Adam replace Jimmy.   When it was stated that Randy was going to be a mentor, I assumed Jimmy would still be there.   If Adam were in a Tim Gunn like role,  I think he would be shown at the mansion getting the contestants ready for their visit with Jimmy.  He could also talk to them about the stress of the competition etc.,  hence my use of the term “peer counseling.”  :)

    Anyhoo, it’s not going to happen but it’s nice to chit chat about the options since we absolutey do not know what is going on.  LOL

  • girlygirltoo
  • elliegrll

    Maybe not.  Now Deadline is confirming it, and they tend to be accurate. They also say that the reasons for stopping negotiations with Enrique weren’t just financial.

  • snow_ghost

    Wasn’t it Deadline that said Enrique was a judge?

  • elliegrll

    Yes they did. Given this late date, it would seem like Fox and AI thought that they had these four in place, but something happened at the very end of the negotiating process with Enrique.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

     

    Yeah, just like Carrie can’t mentor Jessica because she’s R&B/Urban or Durbin because he’s metal, right?

    Carrie actually likes R&B and Metal, so she would work. Adam hates country.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    They probably weren’t willing to shell out 10-12 million for Enrique. Can’t say that I blame them. Keith was smart to get in for 3-4 million.
    I was REALLY hoping we could at least get rid of Randy. They should have just gone with a panel of three judges.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    That’s my point, they are professionals. It’s about talent, not what genre they are specialized at regardless they like it or not. Just ask Simon Cowell who hates Country too but spotted Carrie’s talent from the beginning. Who’ve seen that coming?

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Little bit late here… Randy Jackson, please look at a show called, “The Sing-Off”.  This is the way judges should judge, especially Ben Folds.  Watch Shane as he critiques.  Please, please, please learn to share musical experience terms and give GOOD advice!  No little slangs repeated over and over!  Wait until at least the Top Five before, “In It to Win It.

    There is a natural affection between Mariah and Randy.  My fear is that they will be so chummy that the 3rd (or 4th) judge will be shut out.  TBH, I am not happy to hear this. 

  • http://twitter.com/swansteel swansteel

    Holy Moly, that creep is still hanging around?  I hate all the judge choices, but Randy returning is like finding a cockroach in your bowl of rancid gruel.  Why make something bad even worse?  I will be ACTIVELY avoiding the show now.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Now Deadline is confirming it, and they tend to be accurate.

    According to whom? Jennifer Weiner?

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ” Adam stopped being mentioned in the US press long ago.”

    Yeah but when the rumors broke out, media outlets picked it up. I remember billboard was one, and surprisingly none of them mentioned about sales but how awesome he would be on that panel.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Corey/100001242253711 Chris Corey

      I think Randy Jackson coming back for another season makes sense. IMO it keeps a level of familarity with Idol audiences. I think too MUCH NEW is not a good thing. Also since I could have seen them using Enrique to balance out Keith/Nikki/Mariah. I honestly think Idol should now drop Nicki Minaj. I think four judges is a mistake they tried it before. Nigel hates four judges and helps differentiate the show from the other 2. I think Keith Urban-Mariah-Randy would be a good combo. Its a more mature panel but so were Steven-Jennifer-Randy. I also think keeping Mariah as the female and centerpeice of the panel works. IMO Keith-Mariah-Randy should be the final panel.  I don’t get why so many hate Randy I mean he is a bit tired but he has history with Idol.

  • HotHotHot

    Well, if this is true….
    Good Luck, Idol. I won’t be watching!

  • elliegrll

    There is a natural affection between Mariah and Randy.  My fear is that they will be so chummy that the 3rd (or 4th) judge will be shut out.  TBH, I am not happy to hear this.

    I can’t see Nicki letting anyone shut her out of anything.  I think that the producers will make it clear to her that they are hiring her for her personality.  I hope that they make that clear to all of them.  Mariah may be a little reserved, especially with Randy on the panel, but I think that having Nicki on the panel will encourage her to be more direct.

  • elliegrll

    The show needs a change, and that’s why they need Nicki.  Just having Mariah, Keith and Randy would be the same old same old.  Even with Mariah’s success, she’s not going to generate the buzz that Nicki will, and she’s not going to bring in new, and more importantly, younger viewers.  The show saw a huge loss in younger viewers last season, and that’s something that needs to be addressed.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    I do not believe you can judge Adam’s popularity by the sales of Trespassing. Clearly, he attracts attention and people are interested in him. He knows a lot about voice, music and performing. He is quick witted and funny. I think he would be a very popular judge.

    I do not believe that Adam would instantly bring massive numbers of viewers to Idol (I do not think any judge will do this) but the concept that the only viewers Adam would attract to Idol would be over 50 is not based on any data — rather it is based on a stereotype of Adam fans because he has fans of all ages including people over 50 — and this is unusual for a contemporary pop artist.

    Yes Adam has some fans who are over 50 — but he has many fans between 18-49 with a skew toward the younger end of the age range (18-25) and a skew toward women, who have attended college with middle to high incomes. The audience that Adam attracts is the most desirable part of 18-49 demo. Media planners and ad buyers are not just interested in “the demo”, they are interested in the purchasing power of those viewers.

    Adam fans also tend to be in large metro areas — markets where Idol has been relatively weak in the ratings.

    I have no idea what will happen when this game of musical chairs ends but Adam would be a good choice to add to the Idol cast. — And I sure hope there is no chair for Randy.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    Adam does not hate country music.

    When Adam mentored Idol, he did not seem to have any trouble working with Aaron Kelly. So why would he have any issue judging country oriented contestants?

    If Keith Urban becomes a judge he will be the first country artist or exec to be an Idol judge.

  • BonnieDee

    I am glad Randy’s staying, if it is true.  I have never liked Enrique Iglesias and we need some continuity.  

  • springboard2

    I don’t think that Randy brings anything to the table,  and it would have been better to reboot the show completely imo, but with three other judges on the panel, he can be easily ignored.

    The other three have better deliver though!

  • springboard2

    As far as Adam is concerned, in one hand, I think that his personality
    and background would have made him a good judge, but equally he doesn’t have
    the status to be one.

    He is an ex-contestant, and I think that to be seen  worthy of the judge position of authority, an Idol alum would have to be perceived as having undeniably established themselves as artist post-show. In addition, he didn’t win, and since the premise of the show is that winning is important, having a non-winner in a position of authority undermines it.
     
    The judges must have, or have, either an established track record as  industry exec, or strong commercial success at some point in their career,
    or long standing critical acclaim and Adam’s profile isn’t strong enough on any of it. A Grammy nomination
    is an achievement, but in itself of limited scope since he didn’t win,
    and is not supported by undeniable past or present commercial success, specially to balance out his Idol past.

    In my opinion, if the producers had gone for panel members picked for their  personality and knowledge rather than name, and Adam wasn’t an ex-contestant, he would have had more chance.

    Let’s hope that at least one of them will be able to articulate coherent feedback this time round.

  • Mateja Praznik

    So, Mariah and her lap dog Randy, country dude and Nicki? Bleh, I’m only interested in seeing Nicki, but one interesting judge out of four is a bad rate. 

  • marmom07

     I think that the commercial track record of Idol judges really only matter to some in the Idol bubble and that most watchers of AI are there to be entertained. Given that many viewers never buys ANY Idol music. If Adam brings his articulate, charming self to the table and actually provided coherent feedback to the idols most of the audience would  be entertained and enjoy watching.

  • marmom07

     where has Adam ever said he hates country? He was clear that he would never be a country singer and would not be going to Nashville for his career when he was on idol. Adam would have no problem critiquing a performer and their singing regardless of the genre.

  • marmom07

     

    But what I think Adam (and probably Clay) would do that Randy has never been able to do is provide clear, articulate, interesting
    criticism.  I think that could help sustain viewer interest after the
    initial buzz from the big-name stars has worn off.  We’ve seen that this
    is not an easy thing to pull off. 

    This! Adam would be a good, entertaining judge and that would capture viewer interest along with better contestants.

    I tuned in to see what Steven would say and tuned back out because he wasn’t interesting nor JLo.

  • Emmy

    What a bunch of nonsense. I can’t wait for the batshit rumor cycle to end. Just give me the Adam Lambert, thanks Idol!

  • marmom07

    It’s just that Lambert has made it very well known he wants the job.

    Well Clay also made it known he was interested.

  • koshka

    “Wasn’t it Deadline that said Enrique was a judge?”

    Yes it was…all I heard a few days ago was how this was a “more credible source” than some of the entertainment rags. LOL

  • marmom07

    quotes from Deadline article

    Fox entertainment chairman Kevin Reilly said
    that he fully expected Jackson to be back on the show without
    elaborating in what capacity. “Just heard Randy is back on Idol,” former
    Idol judge Simon Cowell tweeted tonight. “Right decision.”

    Neither statement says Randy is a Judge.

  • springboard2

    I don’t think that this is how the producers view it since they are spending so much money on celebrities. It is possible that it is a mistake, and that the show would gain in having witty judges instead, but considering all the singing competitions panel, I doubt that they are ready to change their  approach.

  • Axxxel

    And Adam ended up performing in Nashville anyway during his US tour in 2010…   ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    I’m actually relieved that Enrique’s not in. I have nothing against him but he’s very laid back and the rumours at the end of last week made it sound as though Idol was desperately throwing money at him. I really don’t want to see anyone there who isn’t really into it.

    Randy is a nice guy and the new panel will be better for having an experienced judge (and, yes, I know Keith is experienced.)

    I think the four judge format hangs on Nicki – if they have her, they will balance the two girls with two boys.

    Season 8 and 9 had a four-judge panel. Season 8 was fine. Season 9 had plenty more problems than a 4-judge panel.

    I know I’m in the minority but I will miss Steven Tyler. 

  • marmom07

     I agree that the producers do seem focused on “celebrities” which in my opinion is a mistake. I can see one “name” but the all of them being “names”. Nope. Not unless they will really judge. What we still don’t really know is how much what the judges do say is controlled or directed by the producers. If they have to stick to a script they no way would I want Adam as a judge.

  • springboard2

    They are using a different phasing.
    In the first case they stated that “joining confirmed new judge Mariah Carey will be Nicki Minaj, Keith Urban and possibly Enrique Iglesias”, whereas they are now  announcing that “Fox has made a deal with him to return to the judging table”.

  • marmom07

     Yes and he did a great show and was very well received too!!!

  • marmom07

    but that phrase was from a “source” the quote from “Fox entertainment chairman Kevin Reilly” didn’t say judge.

    so IMO it’s not confirmed that Randy is a judge. Maybe he is and maybe he isn’t. They just want to milk this for all it’s worth and then some more. buzz buzz buzz wash rinse and repeat

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    Enrique may be an electrifying performer but he’s not an electrifying interviewee, which might be a problem on a panel with two such “in charge” ladies as Mariah and Nicki.

    Someone has to sit between those two and it could be quite the bumpy ride. Randy can play the smooth referee when they disagree. He “managed” Simon for years, is comfortable in the job, has the gift of the gab – no sparks but genial and steady as you go.

    I would have preferred to see Adam Lambert as the 4th but, maybe, behind the scenes, it’s becoming clear that they need a really experienced hand who will be respected by all parties on the basis of seniority and experience.

  • CB40

    I can’t be the only long-time Idol fan who thinks Randy has been consistently good over the years and deserves to stay a judge, can I?

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    Could be, but if it was that important to her, she would have had it in her contract and the Randy rumours would have stopped a while ago. I think it’s more a case of their realizing that he will be a temporizing force on the panel and that it will be needed.

  • koshka

    They are using a different phasing.
    In the first case they stated that “joining confirmed new judge Mariah Carey will be Nicki Minaj, Keith Urban and possibly Enrique Iglesias“, whereas they are now  announcing that “Fox has made a deal with him to return to the judging table”.

    “Joining confirmed new judge Mariah Carey will be Nicki Minaj, Keith Urban and Enrique Iglesias who just wrapped his tour with departing Idol judge Jennifer Lopez. Information on their salaries is conflicting, but Carey’s is believed to be in the $15-$17 million dollars, Minaj’s and Iglesias’ in the $10-$12 million range, while Urban is rumored to be earning about $3-$5 million.”

    The second quote is what was posted by MJ on the 7th. 
    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-idol-judges-panel-finalized-report.htm

    Deadline “edited” their original article without mentioning there was an update. A bit shoddy. Guess they couldn’t admit they were wrong. This is how they get the reputation of being credible? Re-writing history? *shrug* Randy still may be on board, but I’m gonna wait and see who they actually announce. It’ll probably be Nick J. :)

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    I doubt Nicki is waffling. If this doesn’t happen it will probably have more to do with Coke being less copascetic about Nicki taking the Idol job than Pepsi is. Maybe Idol is finding that these two ‘fight-to-the-death” corporations simply can’t make nice when they sit at the table.

    We keep hearing 90% done.

  • marmom07

    Seems to me Idol has had way less success with celebrity judges than non-celebrity judges. Steven, JLo and Ellen were all celebrities and terrible judges. Simon, Randy and Kara all non-celebrities. Paula?? Not sure I don’t remember how well known she was when Idol started?

  • jpfan2

    I’m not really sure why people keep bringing Adam into the mix. Right now it looks like Enrique is out and Randy is in. I don’t think sources would say Randy was “in” if he were in fact “out” as a judge. There is no way Adam would replace Nicki. Three males and one female judge just doesn’t fly especially with two of them less than superstars.

    I’ll be sad if Nicki is out but also happy because I loathe the 4 judge format. Either way I think by Friday it’ll all be official (whatever it is ;0)

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    If they decided against throwing $10 million at Enrique and Keith is getting $4 million and Randy is back at his usual fee, then they aren’t spending a lot of money, actually. I know Nicki is supposed to be at $8 million but there is probably a Pepsi buy-out in there plus cancellation penalties on a slew of concerts that she has booked.

    I honestly hope Nicki is in. She’s the perfect answer to The Voice’s Xtina and I am rooting for Idol.

  • albean99

    I haven’t decided if I’m watching next season but so far the only judge I’m even a little bit interested in seeing is Keith Urban. I’d rather them stick to 3 judges and leave Randy as a mentor. I don’t even see why Adam was in the mix being an ex contestant. He’s too young and doesn’t have the chops he’d need to be a judge imo. I’d say the same about all of them.  

  • thirdtime

    You’re not the only one – I like Randy too.  He annoys me sometimes with his catch phrases, but at least he’s not constantly promoting himself like those with singing careers are always trying to do, and he doesn’t flirt with the contestants like most of the other judges do either. I’ll be happy if he stays a judge.

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    NVM

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P46N6P5XPK22JVXDJJEENXGLVE marie

    I think AI is about to throw a curve ball when the final announcement comes out. Get ready folks.

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    I half-way agree with you. He has become stale but he deserves to stay if he wants it. He loves the show. Besides, a judge shake-up can breath new life into the proceeedings and may make it a little less rote for him.

    I like Jimmy as mentor – he speaks the truth. Don’t know if Randy can/will do that.

  • thetrixrabbit

    Crap.

  • brightones

    I don’t think Adam was ever in the running.  He’s the one that wanted it and kept talking about it, so his fans kept it going.  He’s just not qualified when he can’t even get his own music out there.

  • idolbeat

    I don’t mind Randy staying. And I will be happy with 3 judges. Or, why not have a guest judge every week for the 4th judge! Make it something to look forward to! I guess I’m saying, I’m still watching.

  • Montavilla

     Paula?? Not sure I don’t remember how well known she was when Idol started?

    Back when Idol started, Paula was the only name that the general public knew.  Musical insiders might have known about Randy.  Nobody in America knew anything about Simon Cowell (although he was the breakout star of Pop Idol in Britain).

    Paula had been pretty big in the late 80s/early 90s.  She was a reason for people to check out the summer replacement singing show.  Simon was the reason people stayed.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Looks like a lot of people on that deadline article are NOT happy about the lineup. Like all 11 of them, LOL

  • s k

    His second album has sold less than 150,000 copies, so how many people could he actually lure to the show?  How much buzz?  How would his inclusion change the make-up of the audience or the voting demo?  

    People who stopped watching the show, and it’s clear plenty of people have stopped, might be lured back to see how a former contestant would be as a judge….just as they tuned in to see how he’d be as a mentor. 

    CD sales aside Adam gets a lot of media attention and it is overwhelmingly positive from what I can tell. 

    As a viewer since season 1 I won’t be tuning in to Season 12.  They might have gotten my attention had they picked judges I found interesting but I lost interest in Mariah back in the 90s, I’ve never been interested in Nicki or Keith and Randy just irks my nerves.  He’s always been the most worthless judge on the panel, even when it was the three original judges. 

  • Montavilla

    He is an ex-contestant, and I think that to be seen  worthy of the judge position of authority, an Idol alum would have to be perceived as having undeniably established themselves as artist post-show.

    I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.  Remember that Idol has had people like Neil Patrick Harris, Kristin Chenowith, and Quentin Tarentino as guest judges.  

    On Season Two of Project Runway, the first Season’s winner, Jay McCarroll, was a guest judge — even though he was at the time not an established designer.  It didn’t matter because he knew what he was talking about and, from having stood in the shoes of all the second two contestants, he was able to call them on their bullshit.  It was great.  

    I sat there wondering why Idol has never thought to do that.  Why didn’t they bring back Kelly to guest-judge on Season Two (a year that used guest judges every week)?  Maybe she was too busy — after all, the second season started only a few months after the first one ended.

    I do remember distinctly that Clay was on hand for the beginning of Season Three semi-finals.  He wasn’t a judge, but just before the show aired (it was taped the night before), some reporter asked him which of the twelve singers would make it through to the next round.  Clay replied that, based on talent, none of them would  — they were all horrible.  Almost ten years later and I still remember that line.  

  • Montavilla

    I don’t think Adam was ever in the running.  He’s the one that wanted it and kept talking about it, so his fans kept it going.

    I don’t think that’s what happened.  The rumor dropped right when he was doing the Queen + Adam Lambert concerts in London.  He was asked about it and called it “a beautiful rumor.”  Now, that was unexpected response, and his fans did get excited by the prospect, but he didn’t really talk much about it until weeks afterward — he was halfway around the world, busy with concerts in Japan and trying to conduct incomprehensible interviews through translators.  

    He didn’t mention anything serious it until he was in Australia at the end of August.  And at that point, he mentioned having talked to the network execs, and how he might approach the job.  The fact that he had “talks” meant that he was, at least at one point, in the running.

  • http://twitter.com/AmirHazwan Amir Hazwan ?

    Meh, whoever in the lineup, they can never please the audience anyway.

  • elliegrll

    just as they tuned in to see how he’d be as a mentor.

    And how do we know that people tuned in to see this?  If he can’t get more people to buy his album, it’s going to be hard to convince people that he can get people to tune in to watch the show.  It will be doubly hard to get people to believe that he can bring in younger viewers.  

    CD sales aside Adam gets a lot of media attention and it is overwhelmingly positive from what I can tell.

    It’s not on the same level as the amount that Nicki, Mariah and even Enrique get, and not on the same level of the amount of buzz and attention that they could bring to the show.  There are companies that follow these types of things, and I never see Adam’s name on the top celebrities who are getting written about, appearing on the front pages of tabloids, etc.  But you will see Nicki’s.

    The claim that people will be tuning out because Adam isn’t there is funny, and in line with the annual claim that people will stop watching because X lost are was eliminated early.  It’s also funny because while it’s the judges who people will be tuning in to see in the early round, once Hollywood week hits it’s all about the contestants.  The Voice has shown us that people won’t continue to tune in just to watch the judges, if the contestants aren’t engaging then people won’t watch.

  • alterego

    Lambert was probably eliminated early on.  Obviously TPTB felt he was more of a liability than an asset to be on the show.  If they felt he could bring anything worthwhile to the panel, they would have hired him. He made it very obvious he wanted the job really bad, he would have done it for dirt cheap and would have done anything TPTB wanted.  And he probably wanted to keep his name out there to create that interest.  But that train has long left the station.

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”He made it very obvious he wanted the job really bad, he would have done
    it for dirt cheap and would have done anything TPTB wanted.”

    I don’t know how you came into this conclusion. I mean Adam never even tweeted it(unlike Jonas) and he was just answering questions that’s why he was talking about it. The rumors broke out by first week of july and Adam confirmed he was being considered by late August. Meaning if he just wanted to milk it, he would have said something by early july but he didn’t.

  • jobeob987

    “He made it very obvious he wanted the job really bad, he would have done
    it for dirt cheap and would have done anything TPTB wanted.”

    From what I know of Adam Lambert, this doesn’t sound like him at all!  He has always been true to himself whether it gets him into hot water or not.  If Idol was looking for a judge to think for himself and not parrot the party line, then Lambert would be their man.  Love him or hate him, Adam says what he thinks.

    Having said all this, I’m not sure this would be the best move for Adam.

  • YankeeFan08

    I don’t ever recall Adam saying he “wanted the job really bad …. would have done it for dirt cheap or would have done anything TPTB wanted”.  Can you point out where/when Adam “made it very obvious” that these were his feelings?  I have been following this “beautiful rumor” since it broke, and for the life of me I can’t recall Adam ever making these statements.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    She deserves it, predicting those winners and all…lol.

  • snow_ghost

    Yes, seriously, why are peeps dogging on Adam.   I think he has only responded to the AI judging twice, and both times he was asked by reporters.   The first time he was asked, he said it was just a beautiful rumor.    The second time he was asked I believe he said he had been in talks but no decision  made.   That doesn’t seem to be like he is desperate for the job. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelby.walker.5011 Shelby Walker


    The claim that people will be tuning out because Adam isn’t there is funny, and in line with the annual claim that people will stop watching because X lost are was eliminated early. ”

    I think it is true. Look at how the viewership has fallen each year. I think people tune in at first to check out the new competition and then tune out till next year. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelby.walker.5011 Shelby Walker


    some reporter asked him which of the twelve singers would make it through to the next round.  Clay replied that, based on talent, none of them would  — they were all horrible.  Almost ten years later and I still remember that line. ”

    Then you should also remember that he was only talking about the 8 contestants in Group Two of the Semis and he was right, none of them made the top 10. Clay LOVED Fantasia though. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelby.walker.5011 Shelby Walker

    “It’s just that Lambert has made it very well known he wants the job.”

    “”Well Clay also made it known he was interested.””

    Actually Clay did not.

  • Montavilla

    Then you should also remember that he was only talking about the 8 contestants in Group Two of the Semis and he was right, none of them made the top 10. Clay LOVED Fantasia though.

    Sorry, I forgot how many singers it was.  And I’m sure you are right that they didn’t make the top ten.  Clay was right that they were all terrible that night.  

    So, the two singers advanced from that group went out at 12 and 11?  Heh.  Good call, Clay.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/masewallace Mase Wallace

    cockroach jackson survives again
     cockroach as in one who survives when everyone else is dead

  • judes

    Not commenting anymore on who’s in or who’s out until its official!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    They are kidding?   Right.   Who in their right mind would rather watch the tired rhetoric from Randy or an intelligent, gorgeous, sincere Adam.   Hard to take this bunch seriously!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

    Who in their right mind would rather watch the tired rhetoric from Randy or an intelligent, gorgeous, sincere Adam.

    Nothing wrong with my mind, but I am hoping this is true and Randy will be there, not Adam.  As others have pointed out, I don’t know why we’re talking about Adam Lambert when the topic is Enrique out, Randy in. Adam’s name wasn’t even mentioned.