Miley Cyrus New Rap Song “23” (More LULZ) (PLUS MILEY BREAKS RECORDS)


Not only is Miley Cyrus a crappy twerker, and naked hammer licker, she can now add crappy rapper to her resume. Hooray!

Listen to her spit some awful rhymes such as

I’m in the club, high off purp with some shades on/Tatted up, mini skirt with my J’s on.

I back it up, cause I don’t give a f*ck. I’m MC Hammer fly.

The song is “23” a collaboration with rapper Mike WiLL. Check it out below.

UPDATE: We laugh at Miley, we laugh as “Wrecking Ball” lands the #1 spot in the iTunes Top 10, knocking out Katy Perry’s “Roar.” Additionally, the “Wrecking Ball” music video has smashed Vevo records, 19 million views in its first 24 hours. The last record holder, One Direction only had 12.3 for “Best Song Ever.” YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET NAKED BOYS.

Via The Wrap

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  • Bugme Nomor

    I’m Madonna! I’m Nicki Minaj!
    I’m anyone but the old me!

  • lkingcorn

    What is wrong with just being Miley?

  • teacup

    She doesn’t know who she is so she’s experimenting and expressing the things that currently interest her through her music and performances. Not that I’m not rolling my eyes at some of her antics, but yeah.

  • Ronnie D

    The actual beat is kinda lame. I’ve heard way better. Miley can’t rap either. lol

  • czt

    Where are her handlers?

  • Miss Blue

    Oh lord. Well, on the upside, the rest of the rapping universe can rest easy as I don’t think Miley is going to take a spot on the rap charts.

  • pj

    I only made it through half of it. The song was boring. I guess now she’s trying to be Ke$ha?

  • BluSky

    Like a headless chicken in desperation

  • fuzzywuzzy

    We get it, Miley. There is nothing about you that is anything like Hannah Montana. We got it a while ago and don’t need to be bludgeoned over the head with it like that sledge hammer you were so fond of in your recent video. lol

  • jobeob987

    Okay, I’m probably in the minority here, but I’m just not wild about rap music. Never have been. Having said that, I suppose this isn’t any worse than the rest of it except the lyrics are pretty lame. OTOH, I’m not their target audience so I’m sure they don’t care what I think.

    I just can’t shake the impression that Miley is willing to do ANYTHING to prove that she is no longer Hannah Montana.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree. It’s more like she knows who she isn’t (Hannah Montana), rather than have a good idea of who she is as an artist. I definitely get the vibe that Miley is experimenting with her public/onstage persona.

  • Bugme Nomor

    “high off purp” = Purple drank

    A slang term for a recreational drug popular in the hip hop community in the southern United States, originating in Houston, Texas. Its main ingredient is prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine. Cough syrup is typically mixed with ingredients such as Sprite soft drink or Mountain Dew and pieces of Jolly Rancher candy. The purplish hue of purple drank comes from dyes in the cough syrup.

    …Purple drank is confirmed or suspected to have caused the deaths of several prominent users…DJ Screw, who popularized the codeine-based drink, died of a codeine-promethazine-alcohol overdose on November 16, 2000..

    …Big Moe, a DJ Screw protégé whose albums City of Syrup and Purple World were based on the drink and who has been described as having “rapped obsessively about the drug,”[15] died at age 33 on October 14, 2007, after suffering a heart attack one week earlier that left him in a coma.[16] There was speculation that purple drank may have contributed to his death.

    …In 2004, the University of Texas found that 8.3% of secondary school students in Texas had taken codeine syrup to get high.

  • Incipit

    What the Actual? Sit down Miley – you’ve got no groove. Even a song with lyrics that lame is supposed to have a rhythm to the rap.

    Are we sure that’s not a commercial for Air Jordans in disguise?


    ETA: Just curious – does anyone else have a ‘Let’s Talk About Your Bum’ Cottonelle commercial under this thread? Because I am LMAO at the juxtaposition – and wonder if the irony is intended? Next it will be Shake and Bake. *snerk*

  • Tinawina

    I go that ad too! And yesterday I checked the Miley thread here while on my phone, and I got my very first ad for a porn app called “Watch My Girlfriend” – apparently full of naked young girls?. Miley brings the lulz in more ways than one. LOL!

  • Jake W.

    This song is shit.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Naaah, it’s significantly worse than the rest of it. I’ve got a stack of indie rap CDs from a trip to Venice Beach a few years ago, and every one of those dudes — all of whom were then at the “crashing on friends’ couches” career stage — produced better work than this.

    Rap is an art form that turns words into beats: it’s expected to have poetry, to move the beat with the meaning of the words, to choose words that have motion and connotation on their own. The words play off one another and pick up dimensions of meaning! There’s supposed to be more to the experience than atonal blathering with one’s tongue sticking out (which Cyrus’ is, metaphorically, even when she’s not actually thrusting it at people).

  • Stooch

    Oh Miley lol……………….but I got to be honest this is the most she has ever entertained me, but probably not for the right reasons lol

  • lkingcorn

    Well whatever she is doing is certainly getting her the press and buzz I believe she was looking for. I do like how’s she’s so in your face and unapologic for it. If your go for it might as well own it.

  • Incipit

    That’s funny, Tinawina. Looks like Miley can single handedly (no pun intended) lower the tone considerably everywhere she goes. That also explains the Ball Mason Jars ads. Because there weren’t any threads about making jam. *chuckle*

  • usedtobelucy

    Well, gotta say, I think this is *way* worse than much of the rest of it! I do like a fair amount of rap, though, so I’m coming at this from a different direction than you, but in any case …. To me, this has the same problems as her other recent exploits — it’s just kinda badly done and seems mainly like a person trying way way too hard to be something that she doesn’t exactly understand. This is not well written and not well performed, and I know she’s not Hannah Montana, but I have a very hard time believing she’s the persona portrayed in this music either.

  • ohreli

    Ok, I think Miley and Mike WiLL wanted to see if they could out-do Britney and Will.I.Am’s “Scream and Shout” as worst pseudo-hip-hop top-40 single ever. I think they suceeded, lol!

  • Jenna

    Hannah Montana is so edgy.

  • Guest

    Miley is doing everything the opposite of her Hannah Montana image. Like short hair, blonde, her personality (twerk, tongue), music, etc. The way she is doing it, makes her seems really desperate. She might as well change her name too… a name that’s more edgy. What a mess!

    Bieber is the same. Getting bunches of tats, hanging with thugsters, dressing like he’s getto.

  • ptebwwong

    Here’s my take on Miley. Her last album, Can’t Be Tamed I think she started being slightly suggestive in her music. But it didn’t sell as well as her previous stuff and it didn’t do as well on the charts. She knew she couldn’t stay Hannah Montana either.

    I think she thought that to get everyone talking about her and do better in sales/charts than last time she had to resort to being full on provocative like artists like Britney did in the past. She basically thought doing a 360 from who she was before would sell. Do I agree with it? No. But everyone is talking about her, she’s doing well on radio, and she’s selling.

  • usedtobelucy

    Meanwhile: The former Disney Channel star’s new music video, “Wrecking Ball,”
    dominated the Vevo Internet streaming service, wracking up 19.3 million
    views in 24 hours and setting a record for most views. Cyrus displaced
    the previous record holder, One Direction, whose “Best Song Ever” video had set the previous high water mark for one-day views (12.3 million views).,0,511430.story


  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that you mean 180, but other than that, I agree with what you wrote. Clearly, big commercial success is what Miley is aiming for, and achieving that seems to make her happy and feel justified in her “new” image(s).

  • ptebwwong

    Yes, thanks.

  • BluSky

    For this comparison to be valid, One Direction boys have to be naked in their video too! Imagine how many views they would get? :))

    Anyway, this kind of popularity has nothing to do with talent. Just a cry for money.

  • elliegrll

    Miley isn’t Hannah Montana. There is no reason why she should have to carry on with that image. Miley is being herself, and like everybody else, she doesn’t have to conform to other people’s perception of who she is.

  • CollegeLifeUSA

    Whoever OK’ed those lyrics needs to have their heads examined or locked up. smh.

  • Liteasy

    I refuse to listen or watch anything she does. It only adds to her $$ which she doesn’t deserve. She’s one hot mess.

  • Bugme Nomor

    Miley’s true self is a money-grubbin’ [censored] who will do any (legal) thing to make a buck.

    Ostensibly a singer, she has no musical identity.

  • taylor

    Miley Cyrus was never REALLY Hannah Montana, you know? Hannah Montana was a fictional character on a tv show. I can see very young children being confused about this concept, but you would think adults would be able to understand reality vs fictional television shows.

  • usedtobelucy

    “For this comparison to be valid, One Direction boys have to be naked in
    their video too! Imagine how many views they would get? :))”

    Ha! They haven’t invented the name for that number yet — googolplex is as high as it goes, isn’t it?

  • bestmusic

    I said this in the other thread. We are not her target audience. She is not looking to middle America she is targeting teen. Look it is working.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Well, that’s fine… but “herself” is the kind of person who has nothing to say beyond: “I’m soooooooooooo wasted! You should be shocked at my antics! Prove you’re an uptight pearl-clutcher by being shocked! What, you’re not shocked! Okay, how about now?”

    Ke$ha at least seemed to be having a good time and to be in control of herself, possibly even to be possessed of a sense of irony. With Miley Cyrus, I keep waiting for the screen-crawl PSA at the end, telling 14-year-olds a Very Special Message about how not to end up like her.

    So yay for authenticity, but maaaaan… did the world need an artist who’s the arithmetic mean of Lindsay Lohan with Calvin of Calvin & Hobbes?

  • ptslittlecomment

    Some of her former, older followers in her “Hannah Montana” days are very likely still buying this, thinking they are as rebellious and edgy in their late teens and early twenties as she is trying so desperately to be.
    The long and the short of it is, if it is a result of controversy and an obvious ploy for attention ( and cash) (as it is in my opinion) her current popularity will melt quickly away with the new trend that comes along, a la all the other one hit wonders and trendsetters of yesterday.
    If it is based on talent and substance (qualities I have yet to see her display in any phase) it will carry her through until she reaches her next incarnation, a la Bowie, Madonna and possibly, Lady Gaga.
    Shock gets your attention, substance keeps you around.

  • elliegrll

    She’s a club kid. She’s singing about what she knows, and right now, her songs are resonating with her peers.

    It’s not deep, but she doesn’t have to be. She doesn’t have a great voice, but she doesn’t need one. She’s doing what any artist/singer needs to do, appeal to their audience.

    Granted that she’s probably involved in some things that are a lot more dangerous than humping a foam finger, or posing nude in a video, but for the most part she isn’t doing anything that other female singers have done. I think the biggest issue is that people remember her as a 15 year old tv character, but that’s not who she is.

  • Jordana33

    Teenagers don’t live in middle America?

  • Jordana33

    I actually like Kesha. I think she writes very catchy lyrics and has a very unique style. There’s nothing unique about Miley and I’m guessing that she has very little input in the songwriting process. I remember when she was interviewed about “Party in the USA”. Someone asked her what Jay-Z song she had in mind when she sang about it in her lyrics. Her answer was that she didn’t really listen to rap and that she wasn’t involved in the writing of Party in the USA. She also mentioned that P.USA wasn’t really her kind of music. Kesha actually owns the songs she performs.

  • Jordana33

    That pretty much sums it up.

  • usedtobelucy

    I agree with you about her not being Hannah and having the absolute right to be anybody she wants to be.

    What I’m finding strange about this stuff is that she really doesn’t convince me in any of these recent performances … and it’s not because I view her as Hannah Montana because I never saw that show even once and saw very little of her teen music either.

    This stuff she’s doing just seems really badly done and failed-wannabeism to me. …. When she was masturbating herself with the big foam finger and curling her tongue all around, I just didn’t feel any real sexuality or sensuality in it. It just seemed to me that she was only trying really really hard to project what she thought sexuality and sensuality ought to look like on that stage. And I don’t feel any rap sensibility in this …. It strikes me as bad acting, really, and nothing more.

    Now even if that’s true, I agree that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with her doing that. She has a perfect right to, and if she can get people to buy it, then good for her bank account… But I do wonder whether I’m the only one that finds these performances mainly awkward and not convincing — I don’t buy her for a minute as some extremely hot sensual woman or as a rapper. Do others?

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help thinking the claim that dressing like she’s naked (or being naked) and simulating sex or masturbation is just the normal thing women pop stars do — and necessary for young women to relate to them — deserves examination rather than applause. Men don’t have to do this, and young men relate to male stars on bases other than “he turns himself into a sex object just like I do!”

    Not that it matters, since as soon as this persona ceases to sell, Cyrus will be on to the next one.

  • elliegrll

    I don’t think that female popstars have to do these things to be successful, and I’m not always happy or upset when they do, but I can’t pretend that Miley is the only one who is appearing nude in videos, or humping around on a stage.

    I just can’t grasp the outrage, or the claims by some that what Britney, Gaga, Christina, etc. have done is art, restrained, or classier than what Miley is doing.

  • elliegrll

    Ke$ha’s unique style was copied from Gaga, and the South American (I think that’s she’s South American) that she’s been accused of copying. And of course Gaga’s style was lifted heavily from Madonna, who copied another South American singer.

  • taylor

    It’s not that every female pop star does the things you listed, but many of them do, and it’s been the same story for years. It’s not uncommon.

    “Men don’t have to do this”
    True, they get the women they hire for their videos or their female dancers to do it.

  • koshka

    Crazy like a fox? hmmmm

  • Jordana33

    I see absolutely no similarity between Kesha and Lady Gaga (and I’ve been to both of their live concerts). I agree about Lady Gaga copying Madonna, but at least Lady Gaga has tons of talent. She’s a very good singer, songwriter and musician. You really have to be less vague than “The South American”. Regardless, Kesha sticks with a certain style that is clearly recognizable, whereas Miley Cyrus just copies every single artist under the sun.

  • overthetop1

    People absolutely love it. If she doesn’t burn out or get hooked on drugs, she’ll be a billionaire.

  • Stooch

    Watch Kesha sing live, it’s all about the backing tracks. Say what you will about GaGa, but she can bring it outside the studio as well.

  • lkingcorn

    Lol looking at posts and a porn site popped up. Not the first time btw. Not particularly offended by it but the more you try to get rid of it the more pop up. Certainly amusing, especially on the site I’m reading.

  • maymay

    If Miley wants to become a pop superstar like Katy, Rihana, she will need a lot airplays. Her last single sells great in the beginning but doesn`t become a smash due to mediocre airplays.

    Wrecking Ball is a great single. It doesn`t need the sex to sell itself. But Miley still sells the sex on MV. We will see how radio will react.

    I think Miley`s album title should be SEX.

  • BluSky

    “People absolutely love it” — Hmm… can you please point to these people on this page? I can’t find them…

  • Stooch

    Huh! I was on a porn site and an add for Miley’s album popped-up lol (joking)

  • Jordana33

    Like I said, I’ve been to both Kesha’s and Gaga’s live concerts and I like both of them. Gaga puts on a great show and I love Kesha’s music and her style of writing lyrics (she’s more than just “backing tracks”, IMO).

  • EB


    I made it to the 1:58 mark. *eyeball twitches*

    I want to believe that the stupidity of each song, video and performance cannot get any worse but it has every single time. But this time… with the abysmal rapping… yes, this one is surely a joke, right?

    … RIGHT???! *twitch-twitch*

  • EB

    Whenever this shtick backfires, I imagine it will do so very strongly. It might take awhile (SIGH) but it will. She is such a poseur that it’s almost offensive. And her reliance on some of the weirdest and least appealing takes on sexuality I’ve ever seen will tire eventually.

    I believe this happened to Gaga… a couple of years of highly popular and publicized absurdity and then after being chewed up you’re spat out. Miley should enjoy it while she can.

  • taylor

    “I believe this happened to Gaga… a couple of years of highly popular and publicized absurdity and then after being chewed up you’re spat out.”

    Spat out? As in over 10 million downloads for the released singles and a double platinum album for the BTW era? (and that’s not counting that she is a massive WW artist) Or would it be the $168 million her BTW arena tour grossed before she had to cut it short, due to injury?

    Gaga has had way longer than a couple of years of delivering hit singles, albums and launching huge worldwide arena tours.

  • EB

    She jumped the gun I think by still looking too innocent in the time and promo for that album. People didn’t buy the bad girl image when she still looked like a pretty Disney princess, but also because I don’t think they wanted to see her become that/this. They weren’t ready for that and didn’t care to be. Now we have no choice, lol.

    I listened to an interview of her yesterday where she namedropped Justin Timberlake as inspiration, as she has about Britney…. it blows my mind how she just doesn’t seem to get it. The fact that they were able to break away from their cutesy images because their songs and performances were actually good.

    And not to mention they didn’t even have FB, Twitter, YouTube, Vevo, etc. to significantly help them out as Miley does.

    It either speaks to just total lack of self-respect or maybe (and I hate to say it) but utter lack of any real talent on her part. That she has been so unable to carve out a respectable comeback (twice!) after coming out of the Hannah Montana days. But yes, it is working this time… for now anyway.

  • EB

    AND I’m also so cynical that I wonder if her possibly being the biggest entertainment media story of the year is only because there is absolutely nothing else exciting enough to talk about within it. :/

    She is benefiting from what a tomb the whole thing is at the moment, IMO.

  • EB

    One thing all can be sure of about me and my comments, sales are not typically what I’m talking about. ;P

    I really don’t care about them. I recognize them as proof of success, of course. But it doesn’t really deter my opinions and usually isn’t the point of what I’m saying.

    All I’ve heard about Gaga since ‘Applause’ came out is how underwhelming people find the single and how boring her VMA performance was because it simply was nothing new for her. Like I said, she was highly popular and yes successful. But her gimmicks wore themselves out, as they always do…. same will happen to our new ‘dope’ version of Miley Cyrus.

  • EB

    People are so stupid.

  • taylor

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  • Guest

    What happened Hannah? What happened to my cute pretty girly girl?
    Now you’re a laughing stock and a punchline. So sad, so sad :(

  • Guest

    Your icon <3

  • taylor

    “All I’ve heard about Gaga since ‘Applause’ came out is how underwhelming people find the single…”

    Yet it has stayed inside of the iTunes top 5 since the VMAs. The people you talk to may find it underwhelming, but the general listening public is responding to the song by downloading it.

    Miley, or any other current pop female (with the exception of Adele and Swift) should hope for the kind of “burn out” that Gaga has.

  • taylor

    The majority of the people on this page aren’t her target audience. You’ll have to look at the people watching her videos, streaming her songs and downloading her singles like crazy to see those who are responding favorably to Miley’s new image and/or her music.

  • EB

    The point of my original post is just for Miley to be careful not to drive the public bonkers with her shenanigans. She has momentum with it right now but I don’t think it lasts.

    Speaking for myself I’m very bored of it all. I’m not a Miley fan. I don’t find ‘Roar’ by KP anything special whatsoever. Nothing Taylor Swift or Beyonce does can ever interest me at this point, nor can Rihanna, Gaga, etc. shock me. So I’m not just trying to hate on Lady Gaga. I’m over them all.

    Of course Gaga and the rest have sales. They are still the biggest names in music around the globe and have huge fanbases.

    But you can feel when the excitement is waning and I don’t think their shticks are cool as they once were. Miley seems the most highly anticipated and talked about but I’ll give her this one album and after that, if she keeps it up with the shenanigans I think the backlash will start. It seems to have happened with the Biebs.. another that sells singles/albums/tickets but has turned the public off by being overexposed and moronic.

  • taylor

    Pssst, don’t tell anyone, but Hannah Montana isn’t real.
    It’s confusing, but Hannah is a fictional character. Just ask Lilly or Jackson, they know all about the special secret! ;)

  • EB

    Can Youtube and Vevo views be manipulated like stars’ Twitter followers can be? With millions of bot accounts and whatnot?

    Serious question, lol. *skeptical*

  • taylor

    Oh yeah, I remember people saying the Biebs 15 minutes were up before this last album came out. Boy, were they wrong. Also, that One Direction wouldn’t catch on because there was no way boy bands were making a comeback. lol
    Everyone was going to be tired of Taylor Swift singing about her x-boyfriends. That didn’t happen. The predictions of artists “15 minutes being up” aren’t exactly predictable or very reliable.

  • taylor

    According to Bill Werde, the Editorial Director of Billboard, the auto-play videos don’t count:

    Bill Werde ?@bwerde 10h
    Gonna say this one… last… time. Anti-spam protections keep auto-play videos from our charts.

  • EB

    Just checking. The internet is crazyland. ;)

  • EB

    As many people as there are that love and support these artists, there are just as many if not more that either blatantly dislike them or are completely ambivalent to such matters.

    I don’t know why each side tries to shut the other up… it’s pointless and will never happen. :P Hence the divide and yes, plenty of unreliable assertions formed from personal opinion.

  • taylor

    There will never be anyone that everyone likes.
    All it takes is a few million buying an artist’s singles, albums and tickets to their concerts to make them successful enough to stay at the top. Easier said than done, of course. ;)

  • Dlynne

    I think the majority of viewers are just curious. They’re not fans.

  • Dlynne

    I have an 18-year-old and a 20-year-old and they both despise Miley. I think her audience is 14-16 years old. But I agree with you, this attention is fleeting.

  • b_james

    The power of pornography.

  • g122y

    This is her dream to get the attention of the people

  • Henrique Mendes

    I don’t get what the big deal is.

    People being naked in front of a camera is not really a new concept… I don’t like it and its very easy to avoid. I just don’t watch it

  • Bugme Nomor

    Miley’s not a hip-hop artist either, you know?


    “Miley Cyrus unveils the tracklisting for her album, “Bangerz,” which is set to feature Big Sean, Nelly, French Montana and Future, among others. Pharrell and Ludacris are slated to appear on the deluxe version of the LP.”

    …Today (September 10) Cyrus shared the tracklisting via Twitter.


  • Guest

    You own their music?

    Good for you.

    Their sales success is obviously an indicator that you have exceptional taste.

  • Bugme Nomor

    Pssst, don’t tell anyone, but Miley Cyrus didn’t grow up on the streets of Compton.

  • Incipit

    “I think Miley`s album title should be SEX.”

    That would be unfortunate, since Madonna wrote the book on that (literally) in 1992. That was the title. She even released a video to promote the book’s sales. Copying that title as well as copying some of the concepts ‘could’ lead to copycat overload. But probably not. All I see is that sex always sells, to somebody. Even in this boring iteration.

    JMO. Of Course.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I think her audience is 14-16 years old.”

    If that’s true, then Miley’s strategy isn’t working to reshape her fan base to a more mature one.

  • wildcatatheart

    85 comments…you all are still talking about her…it’s working…she has 40 million views in 2 days…her song is actually really really good, and it outselling Katy Perry right now almost 2 to 1. If it were Pink or Lady Gaga or even Katy Perry, you wouldn’t be talking…. You can call her a train wreck but you are all part of it….

  • CanadianLady

    For me personally, the problem is that a member of my family as a starry-eyed 8 to 11-year-old absolutely loved her. And now that family member is 13 almost 14 and I sure hope she doesn’t think this is a good thing/the next step.

  • usedtobelucy

    This blogger at The Guardian describes the roots of his own unease, which I think others might share:

    “the Wrecking Ball video doesn’t demonstrate a woman exploring her
    sexuality, it depicts a woman exploring the iconography of porn. That
    was inevitable once she chose the repulsive Terry Richardson – a man whose work gives the impression that he looks at a woman and can’t help seeing a blow-up sex doll – as director.”

  • wildcatatheart

    Then I hope you are a good mother and you teach her things in life. Remember, you aren’t perfect either. But it’s so easy to blame others without looking at ourselves….

  • usedtobelucy

    And I was at a fist fight and a hockey game broke out. heh

  • fuzzywuzzy

    For me, the nudity and vulgar attempts to sexify herself and “shock” aren’t the interesting part of Miley’s recent attempts to revamp her image. It’s using “shocking” outrageous behavior to counteract and ultimately distance herself clearly from her previous Disney-fied public persona of “Hannah Montana”, a highly popular, visible and extremely lucrative persona that has garnered Miley millions of $$. Now, it appears that Miley is determined to destroy and even mock any connection to her previous HM persona by pursuing a radical change in her public persona/image designed to alienate any one who still regards her as having anything in common with HM and impress the public that she’s a “grown up” , edgy artist. It’s interesting to see the extent to which Miley is willing to go in order to achieve this goal and (she hopes) massive commercial success.

  • wildcatatheart

    But I thought it was only Miley??? I thought she was the only one that’s done anything like this before!

  • Incipit

    “If that’s true, then Miley’s strategy isn’t working to reshape her fan base to a more mature one.”

    Really – if the naked antics are aimed at 14-16 yr olds, then who was watching the stuff from the Hannah Montana Era? This begs the question of what the parents of those 14-16 yr olds think of the naked antics, and why they would buy it for their kids.

    I think maybe she was hoping to graduate from the grammar school audience and skip right over High School – into a generation with its own money (that pays for soft porn). If she even ‘has’ a strategy?

  • wildcatatheart

    It’s funny, because album and single sales come directly from the people who want to hear the music. Radio play is directly from the music director at a radio station. So obviously, the people like the music. “We Can’t Stop” is still number 10 on i-tunes.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That’s why it’s misguided to ever hold up any celebrity as a role model for children. No one in the public ever really “knows” any of these celebs. Role models need to come from knowing people in real life, not through the prism of publicists and publicity.

  • wildcatatheart

    Curiosity does not make me buy a song…it will make me watch a video though…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Miley’s strategy is to reshape her fan base, and her recent behavior is an attempt to do that. For me, this change seems more desperate than a natural transition, and portrays Miley as someone who is more interested in burying her HM image (and alienating those fans), rather than someone who is proceeding based on highlighting her talent(s) and impressing people with her development as an artist.

  • jpfan2

    I don’t find Miley interesting to talk about but all the negative comments here just show how well her shtick is working. I’m guessing posters here aren’t her target audience anyway.

  • Dlynne

    I definitely don’t think the 14-16 year-olds are her desired audience but I do think that it is the only age group where she has a stronghold because it is at this age that a lot of parents start giving their kids more independence. To this age group she is cool and edgy. To everyone else, she is just desperate.

  • Dlynne

    You’re right, it’s not working. The attention she is getting from most of her desired audience is simply voyeuristic. They will not be her future fan base.

  • Not fit to print

    Luckily for them no one will ever ask them to do something so stupid to publicize their music. Miley could, of course, have said no but there is an entire culture and big bucks built on ogling young women flirting with porn imagery and she is probably convinced that buying into it is a quick route to another success.

    In the short run, she seems to be right. In the long run, she’s simply creating something new to distance herself from in a couple of years time.

  • elliegrll

    She’s selling music, and getting high profile gigs. She wanted booked as a SNL host and performer because she’s just appealing to teenagers.

    Based on the response that Billboard’s Bill Werde received, she is resonating with people aged 18-25, which is why her songs are selling so well.

  • jpfan2

    Her current fan base just got her song #1 at iTunes.
    If people didn’t like her music this wouldn’t be happening. In Pop music it’s about “now” and for now she’s doing very well.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Based on the response that Billboard’s Bill Werde received, she is resonating with people aged 18-25, which is why her songs are selling so well.”

    If that’s true, then perhaps her strategy is working well. It will be interesting to see how Miley’s career progresses from this point onward.

  • Dlynne

    The song is good. I like it. But it’s not about the music for
    Miley. For Miley it’s about notoriety. If it was about gaining artistic respect, she would have made a different kind of video. And she wouldn’t have made an ass of herself at the VMAs.

    The song was selling really well two days before the video was released but a hit song obviously isn’t enough for her. Other singers her age – Taylor, Selena and Demi, for example – have managed to make the transition from teenager to adult without objectifying their bodies in the process.

    I’m talking about it because, to be honest, it’s a damn shame.

  • Incipit

    “Billboard’s Bill Werde… she is resonating with people aged 18-25, which is why her songs are selling so well.”

    Well alright then – she’s skipping over the High School generation and moved on to the young 20 somethings with money of their own to pay for the soft porn, before they start having rugrats and worrying about dental plans.

    They are a notoriously fickle group – but she has their attention for the moment…until she has to up her game by bringing some actual skill (not likely) or finding something more outrageous to do that hasn’t already been done. If she can’t do one of the two, the public will drop her right on her flat bottomed keister. It’s a RadioHead moment – but it’s Not My Problem.

    God bless the child, she’s picked a thorny path to recognition without talent as an accompaniment. IMO.

  • CanadianLady

    I’ve never ever ever held up celebrities as role models for my kids. :)

    My experience is that kids pick their own “heroes.” And since young kids are impressionable, and concrete thinkers, and looking for independence, they may very well pick people their parents wouldn’t choose. I know my parents had nothing whatsoever to do with who I chose as my heroes/role models.

    I still remember the first time I saw Johnny Cash, on the Ed Sullivan show, and realized he looked just like my alcoholic uncle who was literally drinking himself to death. I still liked his songs, but it was sad.

    It was also sad when I found out Mickey Mantle wasn’t the great guy I’d always assumed he was.

  • Ronnie D

    I won’t be buying it. Public opinion is going to happen to every artist, if if they are disingenuous.

  • CanadianLady

    I’m not her mother, so I don’t have that level of influence. And I’ve always actually been kind of cool toward the whole Hannah/Miley thing without being downright negative.

    Yes, of course none of us are perfect, but I do feel sad for kids that see their “hero” isn’t all they’ve believed. And say what we will, it’s hard for kids to separate the person from the character, and when they do, it can be a bit of a bump that needs to be handled well.

    As I mentioned to fuzzywuzzy, I still remember when some of the people I admired turned out to have feet of clay. Fortunately, some of them, even ones who made mistakes, are still people I admire.

  • usedtobelucy

    “Miley could, of course, have said no but there is an entire culture and
    big bucks built on ogling young women flirting with porn imagery”

    I think this may kind of put the foam finger on why I find her sexuality phony and unconvincing in these latest things. She doesn’t look to me as if she’s causing or even feeling her own pleasure but only that she’s doing very standard-porn stuff that guys like to see because they can imagine it giving them pleasure. …. I don’t see her doing much except the male porn fantasy stuff — and without any particularly convincing pleasure looks or moves of her own …. and I have to admit that that always bugs me. And often seems inauthentic coming from a woman, as it does to me in this case.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Demi has substance abuse/body image/emotional issues, and continues going back to Wilmer Valderama, who supposedly treats his GFs badly. Taylor has the reputation of a Level 5 clinger who overshares in her songs, which many find to have the emotional maturity of a 3-year-old. Selena is faring the best in this department, but even she seem too hung up on Justin Bieber and she was in Spring Breakers, which is hardly a Disney movie.

    All of these young women are transitioning into adulthood and none of them are doing it perfectly–based on what the public says, anyway.

    All celebs by default objectify themselves. Some do it more than others. But Miley isn’t doing anything that hasn’t been done before. A 20-year-old woman strutting around nearly naked? We can see that on almost any college campus right this minute.

    Ultimately, it’s much ado about little. Miley will transition to another public persona, another pop star will show their goodies. Such is life in mainstream culture.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Targeting 18-25 year olds makes sense for Miley. After all, that’s the age group she belongs herself. Targeting grandmas or kids in pre-school wouldn’t make sense.

  • Flynn950

    IMO Miley is trying to desperately break out of her Disney and Hannah Montana image really really bad. Hannah Montana made her a household name. Good or bad, that image is the Disney good girl image and she will be forever associated with that character. She’s going 180 to break that image. If that’s the case, it’s working or twerking. lol. Many mentioned Madonna, Britney, Lady Gaga, Kesha, etc. did controversial performances. But those acts did not become super star famous for being ‘Hannah Montana’ I think Miley being sexy is all good for breaking that so called good girl Disney image. But taking it to an EXTREME is a bad way to do it.

  • bridgette12

    My first thought when Miley started to change her image and break away from the Hanna Montana persona, was that she was desperate for attention. But now I think she’s doing what she wants to do. I don’t think this is all a pretense, I think she’s grown up and this is how she wants to be perceived. She has a number song on iTunes, her video is breaking records and there are plenty of young people out there loving what she do. She’s just like every other artist out there in one respect, not everyone is going to like you or your music. She’s raunchy and in your face with what she do, but I think it’s a progression in the evolution of the pop tarts. I just wonder would some people be as upset and outraged if she just came out of no where, instead of being a celebrated child star who flipped her Pollyanna image.

  • taylor

    Did I say I owned their music?
    Their sales are an indicator that they are extremely popular artists and that they are appealing to a large audience.

  • taylor

    That’s called collaborations. Everyone does them. Haley Reinhart isn’t a hip-hop artist either, but she had a collaboration with B.O.B on her album. Country artists are now getting in on the collaboration game, and they are far from being hip-hop artists. Katy Perry, Gaga, Madonna, Kesha, they’ve all had collaborations with rap artists.

  • taylor

    I’m sure they are and that’s always the case. Otherwise, Rihanna would have sold 185 million downloads of Stay. The goal is to get a percentage of the people who watch your video to then go stream the song or purchase it on iTunes, and that’s what is currently happening with Miley. The videos are bringing attention to her and her music and that is impacting streaming numbers that count towards the BB charts. The videos are also having a direct impact on the iTunes chart.

  • taylor

    At 14, I assume she is about to be a high school student. (if not this year, then next year) She will be faced with far bigger challenges over the next few years than watching a Miley Cyrus video. I would hope her parents have equipped her with the tools to handle something minor like a video from a pop star, because if they haven’t, high school is going to be like throwing her into an open pit of REAL life situations.

    She is way more likely to follow her friends at school and what they are doing than to shape her life around a three minute video she sees on Vevo.

  • Guest

    “And say what we will, it’s hard for kids to separate the person from the character”

    I doubt that there are many 14 year olds that are having problems with this simple reality. It would seem that grown adults are having more problems with this concept.

    “Yes, of course none of us are perfect, but I do feel sad for kids that see their “hero” isn’t all they’ve believed.”

    It’s an important lesson, though, and this scenario will repeat itself many times throughout their lives. Next, it could be a teacher, coach, youth minister that lets them down. It could even be a best friend, sibling or a parent that disappoints them. Then it goes into adulthood with friends, bosses, and spouses. They might as well learn now that some people will disappoint them along the way and that no one is perfect.

  • Bugme Nomor

    What you call “collaborations” is actually cross-marketing.

    I don’t believe there’s ever been a time when B.o.B and Haley have been in the same room.

  • taylor

    Semantics. In the current music world, people refer to these types of songs as collaborations. Those who follow current music trends understand this terminology.

  • CB40

    The song itself is actually pretty good. I kind of wish I could unwatch the video part.

  • Bugme Nomor

    Labeling them “collaborations” is also marketing.


    “We can perhaps date this trend back to 1969, when Bob Dylan asked Johnny
    Cash to appear on a track on his Nashville Skyline album. Forget Dylan’s current iconic status — at the time, he had seriously annoyed his audience by retreating from his ground-breaking rock into country and western (then the least hip musical genre this side of polkas and marching bands). By bringing Cash on board, Dylan was gaining the authentic credentials of one of the genre’s stars, while Cash — at the time a mainstream artist — was potentially reaching a younger, hipper
    audience through the collaboration.

    Times (and genres) change, though, and when U2 called on Cash to guest on their Zooropa album in 1993, the Man in Black had neither C&W credentials (country had changed completely) nor mainstream success. Instead, he brought the gravitas and outlaw cool of an elder statesman adrift from current trends. His voice had a weight Bono could never hope to attain.

    …Some may well suggest Neil Tennant doesn’t have a great voice, so bringing in Dusty Springfield for What Have I Done to Deserve This? made perfect sense — and, as with the Eurythmics track, Pet Shop Boys swapped soul for sales, resurrecting Springfield’s career. The duo had spent a year resisting their record company’s urging to use Tina Turner (then at her commercial peak), holding out until the much lower-profile Springfield finally agreed. So the track was a triumph of integrity over cynical marketing logic.

    Cynical marketing logic does, however, tend to triumph in the rap genre.

    Once it had become too legally onerous to co-opt endless samples onto
    their tracks, rappers quickly realised that getting a singer in to do the chorus would achieve a similar hook-providing effect. The turning point was arguably I’ll Be Missing You, Puff Daddy’s 1997 tribute to Notorious BIG, on which Faith Evans’s singing does most of the work.

  • Dlynne

    I didn’t say they don’t have issues. Of course, they do. Everyone has issues. Everyone, including Taylor, Selena and Demi. But they haven’t simulated sex with a foam finger on national television or made a video that is more like an adult film than a music video.

    These girls have still managed to have very successful careers without resorting to these extremes.

  • Not fit to print

    I agree “often seems inauthentic” because it is dictated by the male gaze.
    Thinking of Miley in relation to Madonna underlines that. M authored her work and performed as a woman in charge of her actions and her pleasure.