Kris Allen’s New Single – Live Like We’re Dying

Kris Allen confirmed on twitter that the name of his new single is “Live Like We’re Dying”.

Kris told the Morning Call last week that the single should be released by the end of the month, but told twitterers last night there was no date yet.

The American Idols Live Tour ends tonight in Manchester, New Hampshire. On Friday, Kris performs at Ford Day with Adam Lambert in Dearborn, MI, and then it’s back to New England on Saturday to play a radio date for Mix 104.1 at the Colonnade Hotel in Boston.

Speculation is that Kris’s single could be this song from The Script. It didn’t make the cut for the band’s album, but was a b-side for their We Cry EP. The Script are touring with David Cook coincidentally.

“Live Like We’re Dying” – The Script

  • koshka

    The lyrics are kinda cheesy… but I could see Kris doing something good with it.

    I’m assuming this is the song.. right?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unzBo3m5N2I

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    So, is it The Script song? I thought it unlikely at first, but the discussion yesterday with you guys convinced me that it’s a possibility.

    Either way, I wish Kris the best of luck.

  • rockvixen

    I swear I’ve heard that line in another song before. Don’t remember what song though. Ah well everything recycles.

  • suebrody

    Aw, man. This song sounds really cheesy to me, as koshka noted. :( But if this is the track, I hope Kris changes it up (which he certainly COULD). A lot.

    ETA: I totally agree, jpfan. Wouldn’t you release a NEW track as your first single?! This doesn’t make any sense to me.

  • jpfan

    I’m going to be shocked if Kris’ first single is a cover of another band’s song. It’s a decent song but really. Couldn’t they get their stable of songwriters to come up with an original song for him. It has the potential to do well on Top 40 but what a lame way to start a career.

  • MissyMusic

    Not liking the song the way The Script is singing it. Fingers crossed that Kris changes it up and makes it something worth listening to.

  • bambambam

    Huh. Could this be the start of beef between, um, Tim McGraw and Kris Allen and the Script?

  • jpfan

    Why am I getting the feeling that Kris’ album will be done on the cheap?
    Depressing.

    Usually the winner gets their own song. And it’s an okay song but not a great song (unless Kris works some incredible magic with it.) I mean if it was a great song The Script would have had a smash hit with it.

  • koshka

    Maybe it isn’t the same song.. but then it might have been better to change the title. We’ll know soon enough. I could see how Kris could put his personal stamp on it.

    jpfan – don’t get too down just yet. Kris was probably pressured to get a single out very quickly since he doesn’t have NoBo to ride the airwaves. I don’t think his fans would want that song representing him. NoBo will go down in AI history as a top craptastic song.

  • oceana

    Cheesy lyrics, though the song has a certain bounce to it. But way too cheesy, imo. So cliched and sounds like an inspirational “think positive” song, like a hallmark card. I’m not thrilled with this news.

  • shark

    The title “Live like we’re dying” immediately reminded me of “Smile like you meant it” by The Killers. This is the only similarity though, Killers totally killed it.

  • houstonrufus

    That is awfully close to the title of McGraw’s monster country hit. Hmm. Well, if Jive went cheap it wouldn’t be the first time. Hoping for the best for Kris.

  • oceana

    Where did the talk come from yesterday that it was a Script song? Was it because someone knew the title early, or was it some other reason?

    In other words, is it only because of the title that we think it’s this song, or is there other evidence too?

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    Usually the winner gets their own song. And it’s an okay song but not a great song (unless Kris works some incredible magic with it.) I mean if it was a great song The Script would have had a smash hit with it.

    Hi, just catching up. So are you saying this song was released on another band’s album before? Or is it just that the song wasn’t written for him? I think in an early thread it was discussed that David Cook’s first single was Light On, written by Chris Cornel long before he knew Cook….so technically that wasn’t Cook’s own song.

  • leome

    Why am I getting the feeling that Kris’ album will be done on the cheap?

    Cause he’s with Jive?

    Till we have confirmation I just won’t assume that is the song. I don’t like the original, it leaves me meh, and I like The Script. Also, it would be nice to have a new song for first single.

    The title is ok, but cliche.

  • sunkissedtrampoline

    I don’t understand why everyone is assuming it will be a cover. Lots of songs have the same names. :|

  • koshka

    My only thought about this song being possible is the connection to David Cook. Script is (I believe) supposed to tour with Cook in the late fall/early winter time frame. I don’t know if the YT is a demo or an actual release. I vote demo.

    I think it is bad to assume anything is going to be on the cheap. Just have to wait and see.

    With The Script song.. I can see Kris getting the Heartless vibe going on.

  • MusicAlltheTime

    If his single is the Script song, I think Kris will do something really nice with it. The lyrics may not be brilliant poetry, but they are much better than a lot of popular pop songs, IMO. Can’t wait to hear it!

  • houstonrufus

    I’m not assuming it’s a cover. I’m assuming it’s a different song. I just think it’s unfortunate he’s releasing a song with a title so many may associate with another artist. Course, I live in Texas where country is big. So that song may not be as popular elsewhere. I just know for a long time McGraw’s song played ad nauseum on 3 to 4 stations here in Houston, even on some of our top 40 stations. But, sounds like Kris’ song will be different enough to distinguish itself.

  • Q3

    I am hoping (against all rational hope) that the title is a coincidence. But The Script song, “Live Like We’re Dying” does sound like a song Kris might do. Hope Kris has a really brilliant arrangement for this one.

    ETA: And I def agree, it is odd to pick a song with a title that is so similar to McCraw’s big hit.

  • fearbear

    If it’s the The Script song, it’s okay…I mean, it’s not THE best song but it’s not bad. It’s better than Light On at least! But that doesn’t say much, so heh. I think Kris can sing it well =)

  • kt_cle

    I agree houstonrufus. I’m not particularly concerned if this is the Scripts song (although if it is, I think it needs a ‘Kris’ touch). I had never heard that song before yesterday’s YouTube revelation, so I think the song itself will be received like a new song. I’m more disappointed with the title – just a few letters different from a recent country hit. I really think that’s the problem. Tim McGraw’s song was played all the time on my local radio station that is most likely to play Kris’s music – pretty much an HAC format. I think that’s going to more the confusion/talk.

  • niks

    This the Script song was never released on their album to begin with. It didn’t make the cut. And since it is common for unused songs to be recycled for another artist, there could be a possibility that they handed this song to Kris instead. In other words, it’ll be a “cover”, but not of an already released song that most people know about. I don’t see what the problem is.

    Another option is that it’s just a brand-new song with the same title. This happens in music industry all the time.

    Good luck to Kris. =) P.S. I really like the tune of the Script song. It’s catchy.

  • Valentin432

    In other words, is it only because of the title that we think it’s this song, or is there other evidence too?

    I think there are other factors pointing to this song, mainly that The Script must have a contact with 19 (since they are opening for Cook) and that the style of the song could fit Kris well since it has a pop rock feel with an urban edge (exactly what I would expect from his album after reading his interviews).

    I like the song but debuting his carreer with a cover is not a very good start IMHO.

  • maggiemay

    i really hope it’s not the script song…

  • fanaround

    I’m really excited for Kris to get out there and get going. I worry if it is the Script song – and I like the Script. I could hear his voice if it’s that song, but I think people are going to listen to it on YT and call it a cover. I also think it’s not a great song – it’s a super catchy melody but there’s no story – I hate the thing with the # of seconds. And story has always been what Kris talks about in interviews – wanting to convey a story or a moment. And on his own self-released album, even if some of the songs are a bit young, they all tell a story and the best couple of them tell really good stories. Anyway, he surprises all the time, so I hope this song, whatever it is, goes great for him.

  • snuffles

    I like the song but debuting his carreer with a cover is not a very good start IMHO.

    Like many people have said, this song never made the cut on The Scripts album. So, in essence, it would be a demo that got picked up by Kris to record.

    And I’m fairly certain that 99.9% of the world hearing the song won’t know it was originally recorded by another artist.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if Kris does an entirely different interpretation of the song.

  • cilady

    Who cares if the title is close to a Tim McGraw song? What does that have to do with the sound of the single?

    And speaking of that we haven’t heard the single yet. Plenty of artists give songs to other artists all the time and have those songs become succesful. I’m not sure why it would be considered a bad thing for Kris to release such a single. If it becomes a hit who cares?

    IMO I’d rather have a good single already written than a not as good one that was hastily written, recorded and produced.

  • mandalay

    Don’t know if this means anything, but the only song listed under that title on BMI is the Script song. I would think that if it is a different song with the same title, that one would be registered too – especially since it’s his single. I’m not knowledgeable on how this works though.

    Anyone in the know?

    LIVE LIKE WE RE DYING (Legal Title)
    BMI Work #9420455
    Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
    FRAMPTON ANDREW MARCUS PRS 177277730
    KIPNER STEVE ASCAP 89668602
    O DONOGHUE DANIEL JOHN IMRO 279761903
    SHEEHAN MARK ANTHONY IMRO 279761511

    Publishers
    EMI BLACKWOOD MUSIC INC BMI 223437493
    UNIVERSAL MUSIC Z SONGS BMI 539732328

  • mandalay

    The song was released as the B side of the We Cry EP. Not exactly a main stream song that the public has heard and knows. Except for Script fans of course. I don’t consider that a real “cover”.

  • sunny2

    I agree with Sunkissed, I don’t know that you can assume that he is going to cover the Script song just because of the title.

    Two of Ne-yo biggest hits: Because of You and Miss Independent. Same titles as Kelly Clarkson’s songs, but totally different.

  • girlygirl

    Guys, Kris did NOT say this single is a cover of the song by The Script. All he did was confirm that was the name of the song.

    The Script are signed to RCA — it doesn’t say on their website if they have any connection to 19.

  • carmine2008

    First point: Considering that Kris is so secretive about his album, I would think that if his first single is a cover he wouldn’t confirm the title of it until he has a definite release date. Because then people will know immediately what the song will be. The point of being so secretive is lost. Why so secretive over something and then in the end reveal it just like that?

    Second point: He spent the entire summer keeping mum about whom he is collaborating with. Obviously, he is trying to hide what the exact sound of his album is going to be. What’s the point of that if his first single is just going to be a cover?

    Third point: His entire image is built-up on the fact that people perceive him as a singer-songwriter type of artist. And then he throws all of that away by having a cover as his first single? Doesn’t make sense.

    Maybe I’m wrong. But, I will not assume anything until I have heard the single itself.

  • mgk

    IMO I’d rather have a good single already written than a not as good one that was hastily written, recorded and produced.

    I agree. I think it’s a pretty good song, and there is no telling how much different Kris’ version will be, if it’s the same song.

  • Kirsten

    Heh. Part of this discussion reminds me of how Taylor Hicks was interviewed on 20/20 in the fall prior to his album release and they played a few seconds of him recording a song. Based on that, the internet decided that his first single was going to be a cover of a Smash Mouth song. For the record, no song on his album was a Smash Mouth cover. The song he was taped recording was an entirely different song (and an original). Not that it helped much.

    On the other hand, there was much lamenting that Kelly would be releasing a rejected Christina song as her first single and that worked out pretty well for her.

    Who knows how this will turn out for Kris?

  • cilady

    Rhianna had a hit with Take a Bow and Madonna had another song with the same title. I think djs will be quick enough on the uptake to know what song to play. Especially if they know it’s by Kris Allen.

  • wordnerdarchie

    If it’s the The Script song, it’s okay’ ¦I mean, it’s not THE best song but it’s not bad. It’s better than Light On at least! But that doesn’t say much, so heh. I think Kris can sing it well =)

    Ah, Light On is one of my favorites off of Cook’s album. It’s just proven to me again how different our tastes are on these forums, and that bodes well for this year’s idols’ successes. There’s room for pop, jazz, pop/glam/techno/hard rock, R & B’s, soul, etc. Bring it on, AI 8! :)

  • koshka

    Like many people have said, this song never made the cut on The Scripts album. So, in essence, it’s a demo that got picked up by Kris to record.

    And I’m fairly certain that 99.9% of the world hearing the song won’t know it was originally recorded by another artist.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if Kris does an entirely different interpretation of the song.

    I’m betting that it is the Scipt’s song. For me.. there are too many arrows pointing in that direction. But really no biggie.. just means that Kris didn’t write it. Pushing a single out quickly, this shouldn’t surprise anyone. Kris should have a little more time to contribute to the writing for the rest of the album.

    I’m with snuffles on this one… its only a cover if it has been fully released and is identified with another artist. So to me this will be a completely new song.

    Also – I am positive that Kris will work on the arrangement. I can’t see him singing the song as it is.

  • CindyM

    I would think that if his first single is a cover he wouldn’t confirm the title of it until he has a definite release date.

    Well, the song title was already out there because of the Napa Valley concert poster, he must have known that. If it is the same song, I have no doubts that Kris will have made it his own and recorded it great. I wish him nothing but success.

  • anijsch

    Even if it is the Script song, it could be like something David Cook has done with Barbasol.
    So maybe Kris has taken the Script song and they have done some changes. In that case he would even get writer credits.
    The Script had a few concert in the USA early August, so they could even have meet.

  • Tess

    First, if by chance Kris’ first single is the same song as sung by the Script…this occurs more than anyone realizes…songs are shopped over and over again until they land on someone’s door step who makes the song into “their own” and then the writer stops selling it.

    Second, besides the “Script” penning the song one of it’s writers, Andrew Frampton, has a history with Jive recordings, and he’s an established producer, instrumentalist, arranger, and has written soundtracks (including Bend it like Beckam, one of my favs…I know, trite).

    Third, If its the Script song, it was only released as a B side to a short EP and is no longer available.

    Fourth, the play on YouTube is very minimal, like 45,000 views in 8 months…and until now, no one has probably listened to it for months and months so no one will remember it….that’s a guarantee.

    Fifth, it sounds like Kris. I’m sure that if this is the single it has been reworked to suit Kris’ style. The song has some good bones…if it is the song it seems ripe for some good fleshing out. Besides…I think the tune lost something being sung by a group and would be much better performed by a solo artist.

    Sixth, this is all guesswork and I may be barking up the totally wrong tree!

  • Truthiness

    To echo a lot of people here, if Kris’s song is The Script one, it’s not going to be a cover it wasn’t released, so it’s more of a demo. And it’s title being close to a Tim McGraw song shouldn’t be a problem at all.

    I don’t think that if this is a cover that Kris’s record is being produced on the cheap either. It’s a common enough practice to do, and they’ve done it before for AI winners, so no slight to Kris here.

    About the song, it’s a bit wordy and the seconds (hours, so many days, sorry, couldn’t resist) part is a bit troubling with it’s NoBo flashbacks…but this is a much better song than that. And totally has a Kris vibe to it. I can see exactly where and how he would rearrange it and can hear his voice singing it.

  • suebrody

    One question: Do we typically know the name of the first single without having heard it? Is that what happened with Taylor? It didn’t happen with Cook and LO, did it? (I can’t remember.) Or with Archie and Crush?

    I won’t say it’s NoBo by any means, but the lyrics are still kind of corny to me. YMMV (and obviously does).

  • CindyM

    So maybe Kris has taken the Script song and they have done some changes. In that case he would even get writer credits.

    If it is the Script song and Kris rearranges it, I wouldn’t think he’d get writing credit, would he?? It’s already a registered song on ASCAP and if rearranging an already written/registered song got you writing credit, then a bunch of songs from the last 3 years of idol would have changed credits. I don’t know how it all works, can someone enlighten me?

  • CindyM

    Do we typically know the name of the first single without having heard it?

    I really think we only know it because of the Live in the Vineyard concert leak that was on their site.

    http://www.liveinthevineyard.com/artists.html

    Otherwise, it would have remained quiet maybe.

  • koshka

    Why so secretive over something and then in the end reveal it just like that?

    There is a huge need for Kris to be secretive. It is one marketing ploy to amp up the excitement around his release. Kris needs some buzz which will happen when all this info is released at once. Since Kris is laid back and not in your face, this is one way to do it. Really a way that I don’t agree with.

    His entire image is built-up on the fact that people perceive him as a singer-songwriter type of artist. And then he throws all of that
    away by having a cover as his first single? Doesn’t make sense.

    I see Kris as a singer songwriter too… but creativity doesn’t happen on essentially a 2 month time line & there are TPTB that have a say in his sound. Unless the person is really seasoned, it simply can’t turn creativity on a dime. So yes, Kris will put out the very best album he can. Like prior idols and current, he’ll have to sacrifice some artistic vision just to get the damn thing out in the time he is given. The real test will be his second album.

    With all that said, carmine2008, I’m with you. We just have to wait and see. I feel confident that Kris is more than capable in putting out a great album, he just need to mire through in order to get there.

  • Jayd

    If it’s the The Script song, it’s okay’ ¦I mean, it’s not THE best song but it’s not bad. fearbear

    I’d have to say that this was my first impression, too.

    For some reason I kept thinking of John Legend. Don’t know if I thought the lead singer sounded like him or if the music did, or what.

    If Kris does release this song as his first single, I hope he does something with the phrasing; It sounded choppy/disjointed to me. Ironically, this song is wordy like NB. I hope it all works out for Kris, I’ll be buying his cd.

  • Tess

    Do we typically know the name of the first single without having heard it?

    Can’t say for Cook’s Light On…but my feeble brain seems to remember that the title for Archie’s song was known before he sang it. And, even after it debuted on Kiss 100 in New York, the song was “tweeked” again before being released for sale.

  • mmb

    If it is The Script sone, I don’t know how in the world it could be considered a “cover”. IMO a “cover” is when you re-record or perform a song that is well known and associated with another performer. This song is not on The Script’s album that is available in the US, and The Script is not performing it on tour (I know because I saw the Script this summer and they didn’t sing it)….Lots of artists have hits with obscure songs recorded and discarded by others…I actually really like the Script and think they have a good sound…this song could be good for Kris

  • tiger92

    Well, I guess that passive/aggressive interviewer beyotch will be SHOCKED to learn that Kris’s first single wasn’t even co-written by him. She will be so disappointed.

  • Valentin432

    The song was released as the B side of the We Cry EP. Not exactly a main stream song that the public has heard and knows. Except for Script fans of course. I don’t consider that a real ‘cover’ .

    from wiki:

    In popular music, a cover version, or simply cover, is a new rendition (performance or recording) of a previously recorded, commercially released song or popular song.

    It’s not a well known song but it has been recorded and released, it’s listed here

    We are not 100% sure that it’s the song but I would think there is good chance it is considering what we know about it.
    Of course if Kris rearranges it well and it’s a hit, nobody will care if it’s a cover or not.

  • Chicagolaw

    Well, it seems that the song is definitely more than a demo, but it is really obscure and wouldn’t feel like a cover.

    It sounds an awful lot like the typical AI coronation song. I am sure, though, that Kris will change things up. It certainly has a Kris vibe.

  • Mary102

    So, I’m still a little confused, even reading the comments:

    So, is the Kris title the same as The Script song, which HAS been released before, but not as anything really well known (as in, if it is Kris’s cover of the song, he will be covering a rather obscure song?)

    And then, there’s a Tim McGraw song with a SIMILAR, but not the same title? Again, pardon the ignorance, especially when it comes to country.

  • evanjane

    The lyrics are a bit trite, but the music is very good. I can see Kris relating to this song completely. It’s got a souful alt. rock vibe to it. With Kris’s interesting, subtle phrasing and the rich, smooth tone of his voice, he could really make this song his own.

    As far as lyrics are concerned, Nickleback’s lyrics are far more cheesier in that “if today was your last day” song. (Do not know the title…maybe that’s it.) Lyrically the chorus with the counting of the seconds worked for me, reminded me of RENT a bit. The plane falling from the sky was a bit heavy-handed, but the line about absolution was stellar. (I had thoughts of 9/11).

    So yeah, a bit hackneyed, but still the lyrics made me think, conveying a very human, very relatable message.

    I do agree that it does seem odd that Kris is so forthcoming at this point, but maybe they want to create some “buzz” about the single. I wasn’t thrilled about the title of the song and not so keen about having the Script’s version of the song so accessible. But then again, it might not even be it. Who knows? I wouldn’t be mad, if it was the song, though. I’m liking it lots.

  • snuffles

    Are Kris’s fans THAT invested in his first single being written by HIM? I don’t see how it matters, as long as it’s a good song.

  • oceana

    It’s not a cover if it was never released and never played on the radio and nobody ever heard it. Period.

    It’s a song written by someone else, that’s to be expected. RCA almost never lets an Idol finalist put out a song they wrote as their first single. They are extremely cautious that way (some might say narrow-minded and timid).

    Kelly’s first single (Miss Independent) was written by Christina A. and never released, Clay’s first song was actually released by a European band but nobody had ever heard of it (Invisible). David Cook’s first single (Light On) was written by someone else, but never released. These are not covers. They just are written by someone else. If anything they might have been demos never released. Never appeared on a cd, never played on radio. So they are not covers (except possibly Clay’s, but since nobody in the u.s. every heard of it, nobody perceived it as a re-make of another song).

    I don’t mind if it’s a song written by the Script, I didn’t expect RCA to release a song written by Kris (they are known for not doing that, cowardly as it seems). My hesitation is the song itself. It is catchy and has some nice melody and chorus, it’s bouncy, but the lyrics are really, really bad, it’s so so cheesy. Oh well. Kris will do something with it but I wish he had better material to start with.

  • oladyrocklover

    Listen All Of Y’all It’s A Sabotage
    Listen All Of Y’all It’s A Sabotage

    I Can’t Stand It, I Know You Planned It
    But I’m Gonna Set It Straight This Watergate
    But I Can’t Stand Rockin’ When I’m In This Place
    Because I Feel Disgrace Because You’re All In My Face
    But Make No Mistakes And Switch Up My Channel
    I’m Buddy Rich When I Fly Off The Handle
    What Could It Be, It’s A Mirage
    You’re Scheming On A Thing – That’s Sabotage

    If Kris is going to do a cover why not do Sabotage by the Beastie Boys because it would be oh so appropriate if the Peeps at 19 are going for this cheesey song for Kris/s first single. Oh Well, I expected as much.

  • HappyDaisy

    Do we typically know the name of the first single without having heard it?

    Didn’t Cook first release the name of Light On, then the lyrics (which fans analyzed big time), then the song itself? Light On recently went platinum, by the way.

    Every time I read that title of Kris’ single, I automatically keep thinking “I went sky diving, Rocky Mountain climbing….” (That McGraw song was on the radio ad naseum.)

  • oceana

    Evanjane, wow you are sure right about those Nickelback lyrics, LOL. I love that song and never realized how bad the lyrics sound printed in black and white.

    http://www.metrolyrics.com/if-today-was-your-last-day-lyrics-nickelback.html

    So yes it’s very possible that Kris can surmount the lyrics and make something good out of this song. But Nickelback has a raspy rock sound, which helps make the lyrics sound less cheesy, I’m not sure that Kris can do the same, with his very earnest style, but time will tell. I’m looking forward to his single and hope it is a good one. I would love to be surprised by him.

  • ross

    It’s probably a totally different song, anyway. But if this is the song, I have to disagree that the lyrics are cheesy. Compared to the lyrics of “Crush,” or “My Life Would Suck Without You,” they’re decent. At least the song tries to have a positive message and isn’t just about nothing.

  • MusicAlltheTime

    Truthiness:

    And totally has a Kris vibe to it. I can see exactly where and how he would rearrange it and can hear his voice singing it.

    I thought the same thing when I first heard it.

    The wordiness doesn’t worry me at all. “Heartless” has a lot of words, and Kris doesn’t have any trouble singing them.

  • carmine2008

    Sixth, this is all guesswork and I may be barking up the totally wrong tree!

    I couldn’t agree with this more.

  • Tess

    I’ve never understood where all this “singer/songwriter” qualifier came from for Kris.

    Sure, like many Idols before him, he released a self-financed CD of, IMHO, very trite and bland songs he had written and sung himself. Does this automatically qualify him to sit along side the likes of John Mayer and Jason Mraz?

    Kris, however, did prove on AI that he was very good at taking someone else’s material and rearranging it to fit his voice, his style, and his skill level. And this is a laudable strength.

    So now we have Kris’ first commercial single (I will not count the monstrosity that was his corronation song) and TBTB are going to “allow” a song by an unproven writer, Kris, to be marketed as his premier song. I don’t think so. They, hopefully, have allowed Kris to do some of his own arranging and to make the song “his” but that is it.

    IMHO, Kris still needs to prove that he is a “singer/songwriter”. Until that time I will personally classify him as poppish, soft rock. Somethings you just need to earn and Kris, really, hasn’t earned the songwriter title, yet!

  • jpfan

    I love the Sabatoge lyrics. Ha, ha. By the way, I heard P Diddy say on the radio today that it COST Jay Z 250K to have his song end the MTV music awards. So rumor confirmed. Those high profile gigs are for sale.

    Why am I thinking Jive won’t be putting up the big $ for Kris.

  • Studio57

    I think you’re all crazy. That song sounds exactly like an O.A.R. song. Does no one hear the ska/reggae/folk influences in there?

    Youtube This Town if you don’t know who they are but this song fits in exactly with Kris. Maybe the cloud blue background with lyrics are giving you an Anoop/cheese vibe, but this is a good song.

    I’d just like to know if the Kris fans are just disappointed because they were expecting Kris to be this great singer songwriter overnight? He has been on tour. they want to keep his name out there, so they need a fast release. he doesn’t have time yet to tweak an original tune. Let this get some radioplay and buy him some time for his next song.

  • ilovekrisallen39

    I don’t know if it’s a script song or not,never heard the song and won’t so if it’s the same song,the first time I hear it is when Kris sing’s it for the first time. So it well be new to me. And as a Kris fan I don’t care if the script song it first or not. Maybe if it is there song I’ll give it a listen to afterwards.

  • BeckyMD

    I somehow like the Script song and can see the J-M vibe that fits Kris. If this is Kris first single, I believe he can make it his own, and not as a cover. The song is kinda catchy and radio friendly.

    My concern is Script’s version is too similar to what are already out there. It’s not new or exciting. But many arguments have pointed out that this is what in trend and there is a market for it…The lyrics is wordy, reminds me those credit score ads songs.

  • nessa51979

    Oceana: Kris is signed to Jive so that has nothing to do with RCA being cautious about who the first singles are written by, lol. You are right that RCA is known for that. Although the label he is signed to isn’t really known for their singer songwriters so either way Kris not writing his first single doesn’t surprise me at all.

  • http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Buderschnookie

    It’s not a cover if it was never released and never played on the radio and nobody ever heard it. Period.

    I don’t quite get why it is so terribly important whether it is technically a “cover” or not. The point is Kris’s meme has been all about he is this great and wonderful singer/songwriter and he didn’t write the song.
    That’s all.

    Yes, Idols first singles are never…
    But the fact remains that he has been touted as so “organic” and it appears he is not. It has to be a huge disappointment.

  • saga

    I kind of like the song and I can really see Kris singing it. I also like the singing style and the arrangements in this song, but then I like quirky arrangements (I thought the guitar was cool…). I like the raw feel! But I guess the raw feeling is not very top40 friendly so he has to do something about it.

  • cheese

    I agree it totally sounds like a Kris song. It’s right in his wheelhouse musically and vocally – he’s not going to pop any neck veins singing this. The lyrics are a little cheesy and the song is a little breezy for the fall, but it’s pleasant enough. It doesn’t sound like they’re aiming for Kris to be something he’s not, which should be reassuring to his fans.

  • colette

    Disappointment?? Not. Hey, I like it!

    Totally disagree that this has to be a “singer/songwriter” joint as his first post-show single. I’d MUCH MUCH prefer a good existing song, with lyrics that are meaningful and some real catchy hooks, to something he had to grind out fast while touring — or something a committee of producer-songwriters, including him, cobbled together.

    Kris broke the mold on the show, by showing off his all-round musical skills. Now he’s trusting his own instincts to put out a single of a song he really likes (I’m assuming its this one by The Script), and I doubt it will be a slavish copy. He’ll make it his own, and since many people don’t know the tune it will be fresh for them — in any case, his own “organic” approach is to make any song he does fresh….

    go, Kris!

  • oladyrocklover

    This song is just a step above New Boundaries and if it is indeed Kris’s new single I can hear the critics booing from here. Oh well, Kris almost managed to rescue New Boundaries maybe he can spin straw into gold. I am not optimistic,however. This song sounds nothing like Kris to me. Come on! It’s cheesy! I bet dollars to donuts that he was forced by the label to do this song against his wishes.

  • lola

    Kris is known for his rearranging skills so whether he’ll do a cover or not, he’ll do it differently that will suit his voice and style. I understand the jitters from Kris fans. I recall Adam fans were also disappointed when they heard Adam’s supposed first single leaked in youtube few weeks back. Let’s just hope for the best.

  • Trina

    Didn’t Cook first release the name of Light On, then the lyrics (which fans analyzed big time), then the song itself? Light On recently went platinum, by the way.

    He told fans the name of the song at the Ford event on 9/16, then a couple of days later the lyrics were posted on his official site, then the song went up on Popeater 9/23. We also knew “Crush” was the name of Archie’s single before having heard it.

  • isidra

    Yes, Idols first singles are never’ ¦
    But the fact remains that he has been touted as so ‘organic’  and it appears he is not. It has to be a huge disappointment.

    Since when are “organic” and “written by someone else” mutually exclusive?

    Even assuming that it is the song, it’s not really a stretch to assume Kris will be rearranging it to suit his particular sound. I’m not too worried.

    Besides, I think the song is catchy and fun. :-)

  • alaadam

    I thought it was one of the worst songs I have heard. Surely, this is not Kris’s first song. I do want to see him succeed but this song totally diminishes the whole “he’s a musician, he’s a songwriter, blah blah”. I would be highly ticked if Jive put Kris out with this one. Maybe I am out of the loop but this is almost laughable for the winner. Is this why he was so quiet about it? Too wordy and cheeeeeeeeeesy lyrics. don’t like the tune either. Adam is my number one but I know Kris is capable of more than this.

  • HappyDaisy

    I think you’re all crazy.

    Why are you bringing Gnarls Barkley into the discussion?

    :)

  • ross

    I think you’re all crazy. That song sounds exactly like an O.A.R. song. Does no one hear the ska/reggae/folk influences in there?

    I totally hear those influences.

    Youtube This Town if you don’t know who they are but this song fits in exactly with Kris. Maybe the cloud blue background with lyrics are giving you an Anoop/cheese vibe, but this is a good song.

    I agree it’s a good song, and this band does good material. This song is quirky and upbeat, the lyrics say something without being heavy-handed. That seems like a good fit for Kris.

    I’d just like to know if the Kris fans are just disappointed because they were expecting Kris to be this great singer songwriter overnight? He has been on tour. they want to keep his name out there, so they need a fast release. he doesn’t have time yet to tweak an original tune. Let this get some radioplay and buy him some time for his next song.

    I’m not disappointed. He said his album would have “some singer-songwriter stuff, but not too much” or close to that. He’s been co-writing with some good people. Some of those songs will probably be on the CD. Good enough. I mainly want him to do good material and to be popular, at this point. Walk before you can run.

    Anyway — I didn’t become his fan because of his songwriting skills, which were unknown to me when I first heard him.

    And: I totally disagree with the idea that Jive is not putting a lot of money behind Kris. The travel, the well-known songwriters, the studio time in different cities, it’s all costly. They wouldn’t bother with any of it if they wanted to be cheap.

  • carmine2008

    Kelly’s first single (Miss Independent) was written by Christina A. and never released, Clay’s first song was actually released by a European band but nobody had ever heard of it (Invisible). David Cook’s first single (Light On) was written by someone else, but never released. These are not covers. They just are written by someone else. If anything they might have been demos never released. Never appeared on a cd, never played on radio. So they are not covers (except possibly Clay’s, but since nobody in the u.s. every heard of it, nobody perceived it as a re-make of another song).

    Thanks for this. This is very enlightening. :)

    We’ll all just have to wait and see (or hear) what the song is going to be. I’m going to reserve judgment until I do.

  • cilady

    It’s already a registered song on ASCAP and if rearranging an already written/registered song got you writing credit, then a bunch of songs from the last 3 years of idol would have changed credits.

    They’ll probably have another entry there or update the existing one. They’ll have to do it anyways even if he doesn’t get writing credit, he still gets credit as a performer.

    As a Kris fan I’m not disappointed at all. I never expected that every song on the album would be written by him. I do think that all the co-writing he has been doing won’t be in vain though. But you never know. As long as they’re not trying to make him into something that he’s not and as long as the songs are good, it’s not a big deal.

    I think the only person who managed to have a single co-written by them was Chris Daughtry and his single was released super late compared to how it’s usually done–the day his album was released.

  • carmine2008

    I didn’t become his fan because of his songwriting skills, which were unknown to me when I first heard him.

    Me too, too a degree. I actually became a bigger fan when I heard Brand New Shoes. He can totally write great songs.

  • HappyDaisy

    We’ll all just have to wait and see (or hear) what the song is going to be. I’m going to reserve judgment until I do.

    OK, but that’s not what true AI fans do.

    :)

  • ilovekrisallen39

    As a big Kris fan,am not disappointed at all. I feel in love with his voice first not because of him try to be a singer songwriter. Or even him playing guiter or piano. Alot of people but not think his the best singer but I love his voice. When I hear him sing I have to quit what am doing and just listen to his voice.

  • ross

    As a big Kris fan,am not disappointed at all. I feel in love with his voice first not because of him try to be a singer songwriter. Or even him playing guiter or piano. Alot of people but not think his the best singer but I love his voice. When I hear him sing I have to quit what am doing and just listen to his voice.

    ITA! <3

  • Truthiness

    I don’t quite get why it is so terribly important whether it is technically a ‘cover’  or not. The point is Kris’s meme has been all about he is this great and wonderful singer/songwriter and he didn’t write the song.
    That’s all.

    I don’t think Kris is really known as a singer/songewriter totally and I don’t think he needs to be one. He’s seen as “organic,” with his music, but that can be from stuff he makes or how he sounds. But I think that is the only thing that Kris really is known for at this point and will want to sound like to stay true to himself and what his fans are probably expecting.

  • carmine2008

    ‘he’s a musician, he’s a songwriter, blah blah’ 

    I also thought that they would release a song that is at least partially written by him since that is how people perceive him to be: a singer-songwriter. Which is why I have doubts about whether it will be something that is already written. We won’t know for sure until it gets released.

    Either way, I have great faith in Kris.

  • snuffles

    Well, I think the song is 100% in Kris’s wheelhouse. It’s got a lot of potential. I’ll be curious to see how Kris re-arranges and interprets it.

    I’m not sure about where on the radio it would be played. All I know is that in Los Angeles on all the Top 40 radio stations I listen to, they wouldn’t play it. Sounds like a Hot AC song to me.

  • oladyrocklover

    I actually don’t care that Kris’s first single is written by someone else but pulease!!!this song is just…….NOT GOOD! I mean that whole chorus about 86,400 seconds………….. Couldn’t they find something better? There is no way that the same guy who chose “Falling Slowly” and “ATTTIHD” would be okay with this song as his first single. He needs a hit for his album to sell and,sadly, I don’t think that this is it. On the bright side I remember when I heard that Kris was singing “She Works Hard For The Money” on disco week and I was “Oh No,Kris!” and he totally proved me wrong. I truly hope that he does it again.

  • jpfan

    I think Top 40 would play it. Z100 will def play it. Any station that plays Jason Mraz would play it.

  • ross

    The point is Kris’s meme has been all about he is this great and wonderful singer/songwriter and he didn’t write the song.
    That’s all.

    I don’t think that’s true. He won AI without most of the voters probably even knowing he writes songs. Songwriting has very little to do with his popularity or reputation, at this point.

  • saga

    I also thought that they would release a song that is at least partially written by him since that is how people perceive him to be: a singer-songwriter.

    I don’t think his profile was more of a songwriter than anyone else’s. He won a singing competition, not a songwriting competition. He had some pre idol material but that is not unique in the AI world. I don’t really get what the deal is singing a song written by someone else.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    Come on guys, the song is not cheesy. It’s a good pop song that needs a little tweaking and better production. It’s radio friendly and typically HAC. I think it can work well for Kris. Granted it’s not a great song, but AI albums don’t typically produce great songs do they? No.

    The song has a similar lyrical structure to Heartless, if it is the single, I think that could have been a contributing factor to why it was chosen.
    Whether it’s a cover or not doesn’t really matter. I’m a Script lover and I’ve seen them live, yet I’d never heard of this song until yesterday. For the record, it was never released in the UK only in the US.

    WE know nothing for sure yet, but I’m really not worried about Kris. I know he’ll do fine.

    ETA:

    IMHO, Kris still needs to prove that he is a ‘singer/songwriter’ . Until that time I will personally classify him as poppish, soft rock. Somethings you just need to earn and Kris, really, hasn’t earned the songwriter title, yet!

    I agree with this statement. I’ll think of Kris as a singer/Songwriter when actually releases a album he’s written. Until then he’s a rock/pop artist to me.

  • BeckyMD

    I’m curious if Kris will be credited as co-writer. Not very likely I guess if the Script song is the deal. It’s kinda a slap on that KSCam interviewer (oh Kris is co-writing ALL his songs…)

    I think very few people outside the AI bubble will know this song when Kris first sing it. The only caveat I can think of is when people know some singer sang it before Kris, they will go “oh, so he covers another song…just like what he did in AI”, which is not so good for Kris to jump out of AI bubble.

  • onlythegood16

    On a separate note, I LOVE The Script. Quite possibly one of the best live shows I’ve ever been to.

  • jack5791

    Who cares about the song. It’s a good song, with a message that people should start living by. Kris is awesome which is why his single will be awesome, regardless.

  • riaspark17

    I actually loved this song because of the reggae/ska sound behind it, so I can’t imagine Kris doing it AT ALL. If this is turned into just a soft rock song, it seems like it’d be completely blah boring because the lyrics are nothing special.

  • cilady

    If Colbie Callait can get her new single played on both Top 40 and HAC formats so can Kris if Jive bothers to send it to both. I think there’s little chance that they won’t. But I’m refusing to listen to the version by The Script until I either find out that Kris is doing a completely different song or until I hear Kris’s version so I can’t really say.

    Also, whatever the original sounds like may not be what Kris’s sounds like. So it’s really hard to say until we get to hear it.

    I’m going to guess we don’t have an exact date because they don’t have the whole promotional package set up. He probably needs to have a photoshoot for the single cover. Probably a music video as well (but I think they could wait on this). I’m sure right after the tour ends he’s going to get that stuff done as soon as possible. I don’t imagine that a Kris Allen video will be this gigantic production so it doesn’t seem way implausible.

    BeckyMD
    The only caveat I can think of is when people know some singer sang it before Kris, they will go ‘oh, so he covers another song’ ¦just like what he did in AI’ , which is not so good for Kris to jump out of AI bubble.

    Who really will know? Even among DJs? The original song was never released as a single and the only place where you can really find it now is on youtube. It’d make for a good call-in trivia question though…

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    onlythegood16
    September 15, 2009 at 11:58 am
    On a separate note, I LOVE The Script. Quite possibly one of the best live shows I’ve ever been to.

    I saw them live last summer in Glasgow, they were great. The lead singer has a beautiful voice and their album is great.

  • Mila

    Cook, Kelly and Clay were not known/praised/sold as singer/songwriters, so the example does not fit well.

    I never agreed with this definition for Kris because he never evidenced such songwriter side in the show, never having being compared to other songwriters, so althought I find it weird that his single come to be a cover, it does not surprise me. But probably many fans (not the more rreasonable of them, obviously) may be disappointed, like the rude interwierer.

    I think the Scripts song sounds a lot like heartless (but no so good). It looks like kris to me a lot, looks like something than can showcase the sides of kris that were more successful during the show.

    IMO being known in the show for his rearranging capabilities is really meaningless at this point. Cook was the master of it, and his CD had no trace of such side of him. In the show, they are left on their own, but in real life, there are pros that can do it much better, and I doubt he will have much voice in deciding it.

  • AllenTX

    It could be a AC hit. I don’t really dig it though. Reminds me of Buble’s Everything which sounds so meh to me but turned out to be a AC hit. So what do I know LOL.

  • carmine2008

    I don’t think his profile was more of a songwriter than anyone else’s. He won a singing competition, not a songwriting competition. He had some pre idol material but that is not unique in the AI world. I don’t really get what the deal is singing a song written by someone else.

    Well, if you read some of the articles, reviews etc. about him he is commonly referred to as singer-songwriter-ish. His sound is associated with that vein of artists. That’s why I presumed that is how he is perceived. And considering all the WRITING sessions he has done, I thought that one of the songs he co-wrote would be his actual single. Which is why I am having doubts about the song by the Script being his first single. It seems odd to me. It doesn’t fit. But then, that’s just me.

    We could all be wrong; because in the end, these are all just speculations.

  • larc

    The song isn’t so bad, IMHO, and it does sound like a Kris song. He’ll probably be able to do something with it much better than the Script’s version. But I am a little surprised Kris’s first single will be a cover. That seems to go against the current flow. Still, I’ll take a good cover any day over a new song that’s total crap and will be completely forgotten in a year or two (unfortunately, it seems about 75% of new ones are that).

    Tonight in Manchester would be a great time for Kris to preview it. :)

  • CindyM

    I have no doubts that Kris’s first single will be something that his fans will be proud of and enjoy. Kris was always underestimated on Idol and he always came through with flying colors. All the hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing won’t change that. If it is the Script song, I think Kris will change it up and make it his own like he did with sooooo many songs on Idol.

    His style’s not my thing, but I have no doubts he will be really successful, none.

  • Squirrely

    The song is nice, but we don’t really know if that’s the song.

  • MissyMusic

    As a big Kris fan,am not disappointed at all. I feel in love with his voice first not because of him try to be a singer songwriter. Or even him playing guiter or piano. Alot of people but not think his the best singer but I love his voice. When I hear him sing I have to quit what am doing and just listen to his voice.

    I’m with you Ross. I LOVE the tone of Kris’ voice. If his single is The Script song, although I don’t like it much, I’m sure when Kris sings it, I will love it.

  • carmine2008

    IMHO, Kris still needs to prove that he is a ‘singer/songwriter’ . Until that time I will personally classify him as poppish, soft rock. Somethings you just need to earn and Kris, really, hasn’t earned the songwriter title, yet!

    I don’t think anyone claimed that he has earned that title yet, just that he is associated with it. That given the chance to record an album, he will go along that path.

  • carmine2008

    The song is nice, but we don’t really know if that’s the song.

    Why did I write all the things that I wrote when I could have just written something like this? Lol. Extremely valid point.

  • Sassycatz

    I also thought that they would release a song that is at least partially written by him since that is how people perceive him to be: a singer-songwriter.

    Well, since they didn’t release a single co-written by Cook last year, I’m not surprised that they — presumably — are not doing it for Kris this year, and Cook had a lot more songwriting experience than Kris. They even made him take down his self-released album with songs all written by him from Amazon during AI because they thought it was “unfair.”

    (I never understood the contradiction. It’s unfair to have his own work out there selling on Amazon and yet, when he finally got an opportunity to release his first single on a major label, it had to be written by someone else. It’s too good to be out there during the competition, but not good enough afterwards???)

    I never agreed with this definition for Kris because he never evidenced such songwriter side in the show, never having being compared to other songwriters, so althought I find it weird that his single come to be a cover, it does not surprise me. But probably many fans (not the more rreasonable of them, obviously) may be disappointed, like the rude interwierer.

    Whenever I’ve referenced Kris as a “singer/songwriter,” I was referencing his vibe not literally that he had to write or co-write every one of his own songs. His vibe — to me — was like the coffeehouse, James Taylor-ish, Jason Castro vibe. Just with a bit more oomph, since he’s not bad at putting a rock/funky spin to his work.

  • Harborchick

    I like the Script song (had never heard it before) and can totally see Kris putting his spin on it. It has a lot of syncopated rhythm and quick words that Kris does so well. Good luck to him,

  • Truthiness

    The song has a similar lyrical structure to Heartless, if it is the single, I think that could have been a contributing factor to why it was chosen.

    I thought this way about the song as well. It had a similiar vibe to Heartless to me, for some reason and even though they are very different kinds of songs. Like I said, I can totally see Kris re-arranging and singing it in a very Kris way. And yeah, I could see it getting play on Top 40 if he does as good a job as I know he can. I can see him making this something very palatable to that market. Not sure how much I personally will like this song, but I’m not as important as the buying public and I do think that if Kris does a good job re-arranging it, he could have this be a successful hit.

    Of course this could not be the song he’s doing, but I will still have faith he’s going to make a successful first single. What can I say? I think Kris has a really good chance of doing well.

  • carmine2008

    Well, since they didn’t release a single co-written by Cook last year, I’m not surprised that they ‘” presumably ‘” are not doing it for Kris this year, and Cook had a lot more songwriting experience than Kris.

    Having no prior knowledge about what happened with the other Idol winner, I may have presumed too much. Can’t they just release it already? Hahaha.

  • Mtlfan

    It’s a cool song, I like it and think Kris will do great with it. But still we don’t know if it’s that one though.

  • SarahP

    wow i am posting here after ages! dont know why but something came over to me and i was able to control my mj addiction :) but this post got me so excited i had to post!

    YIIPPPPEEE! i for one am super excited that Kris’s single is going to out end of the month (squueeeeee) and if its this song, or anything else, even if its a cover song by the Beastie Boys or the Backstreet Boys even, i’ll be happy cos we get to hear a new Kris song in just 15 days!

    wooooo hooooo

  • saga

    I actually loved this song because of the reggae/ska sound behind it, so I can’t imagine Kris doing it AT ALL. If this is turned into just a soft rock song, it seems like it’d be completely blah boring because the lyrics are nothing special.

    I kind of agree, I also really liked the arrangement and I also fear that making it soft rockish will take away some edge.

  • twinkle

    it also made me think of Heartless and i think [if this is the song] it will fit kris’s voice and style really well. it might be a smidge cheesy, but i like the message and i bet it is one that kris will connect with well. he always seems to pick songs with meaning or with a story. that’s one of the things i like about him. but, again, this is all speculation…

    happy Last Concert Day!!

  • BestAI

    If it is a different song, they would not have used that title. I know there are many databases with song titles, and they could have done a query for that title. Why produce a completely different song with a duplicate title?

  • saga

    IMO being known in the show for his rearranging capabilities is really meaningless at this point. Cook was the master of it, and his CD had no trace of such side of him. In the show, they are left on their own, but in real life, there are pros that can do it much better, and I doubt he will have much voice in deciding it.

    As much as I hate to admit it, there is much truth in this. Well, except that the pros apparently couldn’t do it much better since the idol albums are so bland. I sooooo wish someone could find the magic button to break this trend.

  • http://youtube.com/user/ConcertCameraCat Sparkles

    I had no idea there were 86,400 seconds in the day. I just never did the math. But technically that includes the night too. So if you sleep for 8 hours you really only have 57,600 seconds to live like you’re dying. I’m afraid that until they correct their arithmetic I don’t think I can buy the CD.

  • evanjane

    Oceana, I think a good melody and beautiful voice can hide a multitude of “lyric” sins. I love David Cook to death, but sometimes his lyrics are so “wordy” and yes, they are worthy, as well, but just sometimes it’s like what was he thinking… but then, it just works for him.

    I’m not worried about Jive supporting Kris. I don’t know all the artists signed with Jive, but Kris is definitely a different type of AI artist which mixes things up nicely for the franchise.

    I heard all the worries from DC fans with all the what if’s. What if he doesn’t sell enough? What if his first single isn’t written by him? What if …. These kids sell more than many, many artists out there and dominate a lot of the charts. I worry more from the “fall out” of that in the music industry — American Idol monopolization.

    An invested fan will continue to angst one moment and rejoice another.

    As far as I can tell, I don’t think the Kris Fans are all that upset about the song, just anxious to hear new music. And I do see Kris in the infancy stages of being a singer/songwriter as he’s only been writing music for a few years now. For the record, Beautiful Moon and Land of Smiles is not bland or trite, IMHO. The beauty is in it’s simplicity.

    As far as breaking new ground for any artist, well this could put things into perspective: “It all began with Adam. He was the first man to tell a joke–or a lie. How lucky Adam was. He knew when he said a good thing, nobody had said it before.” Mark Twain Notebook 1867

  • isidra

    If it is a different song, they would not have used that title. I know there are many databases with song titles, and they could have done a query for that title. Why produce a completely different song with a duplicate title?

    There are a lot of songs out there with the same title as other songs. It doesn’t mean anything one way or another.

  • suebrody

    I don’t think most fans, and certainly 99 percent of the buying public, could care less if this is a cover or a B-side or anything else and whether or not he wrote/co-wrote it/knows the writer(s). They care if the song is *good*. I actually like Kris’s NoBo (ducking) b/c I love his voice. I mean, I hate NoBo, but I still think it shows off his voice pretty well. I bet it will be rearranged if it is the single. I just think the lyrics are cheesy.

  • koshka

    Just catching up.

    The lyrics is wordy, reminds me those credit score ads songs.

    ahhhh good times. LOL :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HksXMVhxdxY

    LOL

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    twinkle

    happy Last Concert Day!!

    Happy last concert day to you too twinkle!!!

  • jersey

    There are a lot of songs with the same or similar titles. So even if that is the title, it’s not necessarily the song. When I first saw the title I immediately thought of the Tim McGraw song that he wrote for his dad. I think it’s called “Live Like You Were Dying”, or something like that.

  • gulfluv

    I like the script song after hearing it yesterday, so if it is that song I think Kris could do something good with it. I can see it doing well on radio, people love inspirational type stuff especially with a good sound. How else could The Climb do so well across so many formats(AM NOT comparing this song to the climb, just the uplifting message aspect)
    Maybe Kris related to it because almost dying a few years ago probably made him think about things like that.

  • spring2009

    I can’t believe that this would be the song – too wordy ala NoBo which I thought he was trying to shake? I hope it is not, I don’t enjoy it.

  • becausehelives

    This is not kris’ s single. same name yes. if somehow it is, then it wld not sound like this. I believe he will change it up.

  • alaadam

    I’m afraid that until they correct their arithmetic I don’t think I can buy the CD

    ROFLMAO!

  • Kirsten

    There are a lot of songs with the same or similar titles.

    Anybody remember when both the Pointer Sisters and Van Halen had a hit with two completely different songs both titled “Jump” in 1984? The Pointer Sisters song peaked at number 3 on the Hot 100 while Van Halen went to number 1. The Pointer Sisters did modify the title to “Jump (form My Love)” to try to avoid confusion with the Van Halen song (the PS album was released prior to the VH album, but VH released the single first), but I don’t recall anybody caring. The PS song won a Grammy while the VH song is blamed for breaking up the band.

    One of Daughtry’s first big hits (featured as the boot song on AI and entirely written by him) was called “Home”. The ACE Title Search Returns over 1000 results for that name. It was a hit for the band despite the fact the year prior Michael Buble had a hit with a song called “Home” which Elliott Yamin sang on AI in competition against Daughtry.

    There are tonnes of songs with the same name. Song names aren’t copyrighted. The lyrics and melodies are.

    That said, I don’t care if Kris wrote an original or is covering somebody else’s obscure song. Good songs are too rare to turn up your nose at. And 99.9% of the listening public don’t care. Kelly Clarkson went all over the press to state that “Already Gone” is a virtual clone of “Halo”, but it’s still steadily climbing the charts.

    That said, I haven’t listened to The Script song with the same name, so I don’t know if it’s a good song. LOL. No record label has ever listened to me before, so I see no sense in angsting over this. As Karen Carpenter liked to say, whatever will be will be.

  • wand3rful

    they probably just used this song as a template and kris/producers liked the title enough to keep it . who knows what the end result will be? and perhaps kris did tweak the lyrics to fit his style, hence keeping his “song writer” status ;)

  • LaurelG

    We’re all just guessing here but it seems logical to me that the Script song will be the new single, because of the identical name and the band’s connection to David C. And I can see someone hearing this song and thinking it sounds both current and a little bit Kris-ish at the same time. (Don’t know and don’t care whether it’s technically a “cover” – kind of a nonissue, imo.)

    IMO being known in the show for his rearranging capabilities is really meaningless at this point. Cook was the master of it, and his CD had no trace of such side of him. In the show, they are left on their own, but in real life, there are pros that can do it much better, and I doubt he will have much voice in deciding it.

    To me, ^^^this is the real question. To what extent will they allow Kris to rearrange this song to better fit his style? Because I do think Kris showed considerable skill in this area during the season and I would trust his instincts more than those of the so-called pros from Jive.

    So to those Cook historians out there – did a demo version of Cornell’s LO ever surface? Do we know if David significantly rearranged the song from the version written by CC? I realize it was RCA, not Jive, but I’d still be interested to know how DC’s first single was handled.

  • oladyrocklover

    This song has every generic cliche in the book. It is a sell-out. Poor Kris. He probably has no choice in the matter. I know that David Cook’s first singles were pretty much the same tripe. I was just hoping that Kris would escape the cookie-cutter idol machine. My hope is that if this at least does reasonably well that there will be other tracks on his album that are representative of the Kris that I know. There is a good message in the song and,hopefully, Kris will be able to sell it and help it transcend the less than compelling lyrics.

  • Truthiness

    Speaking of Kris songs, the kids at ontd_ai managed to find Kris Allen in the BMI database New Song? and it has listed when one clicks on the title cowriters?
    And someone remembered a Tweet from David Hodges (who is listed as part of this) about writing with Kris Allen and Steven.

  • ladymadonna

    There are a lot of songs with the same or similar titles.

    David Cook and a Japanese-born pop singer named Utada both had songs called “Come Back To Me” go for adds on CHR within a few weeks of each other back in April. I remember Cook fans haunting All Access for a whiff of what the next single would be, and freaking out when Utada’s song got posted. Some thought it was a clear sign that CBTM would not be the next single, and some thought it might be a typo and it was meant to be a listing for David. A week or two later Cook’s single was also announced and yup, there it was – “Come Back to Me” by Utada and “Come Back to Me” by David Cook.

    So to those Cook historians out there ‘“ did a demo version of Cornell’s LO ever surface? Do we know if David significantly rearranged the song from the version written by CC?

    No. If Cornell himself ever recorded a demo of LO it has never surfaced. As for re-working the song, the fact that Cook did not carry a co-writing credit with Cornell and Howes probably indicates that the song was not changed in any meaningful way either musically or lyrically when Cook recorded it. With “Bar-ba-Sol”, for instance, we know that he took a previously-recorded song from the Atlanta band Injected, and changed the title, structure, and lyrics very slightly (but enough to get a co-writing credit). Since this didn’t happen with LO I’m guessing it was recorded pretty much as written.

  • Sassycatz

    Back in the stone age, I got screwed by there being two current, popular songs with the same title. I wanted the Eagles “Best of My Love,” but my mother bought me the Emotions’ “Best of My Love.” Ugh.

    So to those Cook historians out there ‘“ did a demo version of Cornell’s LO ever surface? Do we know if David significantly rearranged the song from the version written by CC? I realize it was RCA, not Jive, but I’d still be interested to know how DC’s first single was handled.

    I never heard of a Cornell demo of Light On, but believe it or not, I am not the expert on David Cook that some people are, so I’m prepared to be corrected.

  • Squirrely

    Emotions’ ‘Best of My Love.’ 

    I love that song.

  • vanjess38

    Dis Kris per chance say this song is his single? If not, why don’t we wait till we hear the song. Kris could have ignored that question if he didn’t want to answer. Knowing how snarky he is makes me to believe that it’s a different song. I believe he heard or saw the dicussion we had here yesterday and decided to answer it. If it were the same song, he would have skipped the question. That is Kris playing with us again. He’s making us think!

  • Mtlfan

    Speaking of Kris songs, the kids at ontd_ai managed to find Kris Allen in the BMI database New Song? and it has listed when one clicks on the title cowriters?
    And someone remembered a Tweet from David Hodges (who is listed as part of this) about writing with Kris Allen and Steven.

    good finding! “Not to late to run” … I like the title

  • Ellie2

    If this is Kris’s single, I’m not loving it. While I can actually hear him singing this song, (I think it would do justice to his voice), the lyrics are just so cheesy. A song referencing your plane going down and saying your good-byes is an automatic fail in my book. Then again, any song entitled “Live Like We’re Dying” is probably never going to get my vote. Ugh.

  • smartcookie

    Have we all forgotten that Allison wanted to sing Jefferson Airplane’s “Somebody to Love” and Simon assumed she meant Queen’s “Somebody to Love”? Neither of which should be confused with the BeeGees’ “To Love Somebody.”

    It happens all the time. There are only so many titles in the world, I guess.

    (I myself had two different books called “Always a Bridesmaid,” which is a whole different kettle of fish. It wasn’t my idea! And I feel comfortable spilling this info, secure that I’m not outing myself, because there are so freaking many people who’ve written books called “Always a Bridesmaid.”)

  • hwc

    He won AI without most of the voters probably even knowing he writes songs.

    Heck, his voters probably didn’t even know he is gay.

  • alaadam

    Well. “It’s not too late to run” but you can still “live like you were dying’ if you decide not to run.

  • auntieaimee

    Melodically it seems pretty strong. I think Kris could do a nice job with it.

  • Suzanne

    I like the Script song (had never heard it before) and can totally see Kris putting his spin on it. It has a lot of syncopated rhythm and quick words that Kris does so well.

    Agree completely. And Kris has a warmer voice than the lead singer here, and he’s got better vocal control, which I think will help the song.

    I feel bad for The Script. If they/part of them wrote it, I guess that they’re getting paid for it, but either way, it’s sort of a bummer to record something and see it released by someone else. I guess that’s the music biz.

    Regarding the release date: Kris needs to get that thing out the door. Tick tock.

  • BeckyMD

    He’s making us think!

    I just recall the scene where Chandler accused Richard: “You know what you did? My girlfriend is out there thinking things over! You made my girlfriend think!

    sorry MJ, ot.

  • http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com Buderschnookie

    I feel bad for The Script. If they/part of them wrote it, I guess that they’re getting paid for it, but either way, it’s sort of a bummer to record something and see it released by someone else. I guess that’s the music biz.

    Writing is where the money is so don’t feel too badly.
    If it should hit they will see far more money on it than Kris ever will.

  • snuffles

    Suzanne
    September 15, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I feel bad for The Script. If they/part of them wrote it, I guess that they’re getting paid for it, but either way, it’s sort of a bummer to record something and see it released by someone else. I guess that’s the music biz.

    Why!? They’re getting PAID! And if the song takes off and sells well, EVEN BETTER!!

  • oceana

    I wouldn’t feel bad for the Script, songwriters usually enjoy hearing their songs performed by other artists.

    (I think David Cook said he’d like to write songs for other people, didn’t he?)

    The Script has a hit song now, they are coming up in the world.

  • summersnow

    I hope this is not his single. The title is alright but I actually thought the lyrics and tune are worse than No Boundaries. Kris is MUCH better than this!

  • http://www.dallascowboys.com GeminiDolly

    I believe its a huge leap to find a song with the same name and say that could possibly be Kris’ new single. I hope not, this song is crap. But, I also very much doubt Kris will be singing a cover for his debut single.

  • Tess

    It is a sell-out. Poor Kris. He probably has no choice in the matter.

    I hear this or something similar every time an idol song is released. As hard as I try I just can’t see that these kids are the puppets that so many people make them out to be on their first album. Personally I think the whole idea of the Idols not having any say is a fandom cop-out to explain the banality of some of the songs that have come out of the idol camp.

    Of course, none of us will ever know for sure since very few Singers are ever going to publicly renounce their own singing and songs as complete and utter dreck. Obviously the label has a big say in the matter since they are laying out the upfront money, but the Artist is putting his/her entire career on the line so he/she better have some balls.

    So to let an Idol completely off the hook when their material is abysmal is a little too fandoming for me. No one is going to have everything they sing or perform in their lifetime be anywhere close to great. If one song off of an album resonates with the music buying public…that is a success. There can only be a maximum of 52 # one songs a year, per chart, and I would bet that thousands of songs are recorded each year.

    Perspective….not high on the list for many in fandom.

  • alaadam

    Didn’t Adam say that is a myth about the singers not having any input into their songs or albums. At least that has been his experience-according to him. So TESS, you may be right about the fans using it as a scapegoat. Regardless, the Kris fans will luv what he puts out no matter what and the Adam fans will fluve what he puts out no matter what. I guess its the non-idol fans that will make or break things. I mean seriously, I even downloaded WANT.

  • jtoms

    Tess
    September 15, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    As hard as I try I just can’t see that these kids are the puppets that so many people make them out to be on their first album

    oh, they are. it’s naive to think otherwise.

    let’s just put it this way. kelly is still having problems with her label. that much should tell you something. now imagine being a brand new kid on the scene. yup.

  • MissyMusic

    I hear this or something similar every time an idol song is released. As hard as I try I just can’t see that these kids are the puppets that so many people make them out to be on their first album

    Tess, not so sure I agree with you. I remember last year when David Archuleta was putting together his album, there were a few songs he fought his label (Jive) to get on the album. Jive said N0. I think the label has the final say and the idols have little say in their first album. The idols may have some say, but the label has the final word.

  • gabilan

    I like the Script song (had never heard it before) and can totally see Kris putting his spin on it. It has a lot of syncopated rhythm and quick words that Kris does so well.

    Does anyone else hear a little Barenaked Ladies in the Script song? No? Just me? “I just made you say ‘underwear!'” …

    Anyway, I agree with whoever said the Script song has good bones and Kris can make something of it (insert big IF IT’s THE SONG caveat). The “Liiiive Like We’re Dyiiiingggg!” line is catchy as hell. Maybe he would slow the thing down just a bit to add some soul.

    And cheesy words don’t kill catchy pop songs on today’s radio where literal lyrics rule. (really miss the days when you had to wonder what the hell a song meant)

  • leeaundra

    I’m going to qualify my comments by saying I enjoy Kris’ music (so far) very much. I think he’s very talented.

    Assuming this is The Script song that he’s talking about, I have to agree this song needs a LOT of help. I listened to it four times. It is too heavy on lyrics, which would make it a hard sell on radio, and has no hook whatsoever (an even harder sell).

    Kris’ has a gift for re-arranging songs I previously hated (SWHFTM and Heartless) and making them work for me ‘“ I really hope he can do it again with this one. As the song stands right now, I am very unimpressed’ ¦but if Kris has done substantial work on it there could be a pleasant surprise in store. Still, it makes me a bit queasy’ ¦not exactly the kind of song I was hoping for as his first single. He managed to ditch one lyric laden, no melody mess’ ¦to me this is another one unless he really worked it over.

    This is all assuming that it is The Script song that I listened to on youtube.

    I almost like ‘Live like you were dying’  by Tim McGraw better and I hate country music. It’s a catchier tune with better lyrics that could be a pop song ‘“ but it’s really not right for Kris at his age.

    ETA: Contrary to what Idol judges may say, NO ONE – not my favorite artists – can “sing the phonebook” and make me listen. If the song is crap, I don’t listen or buy.

  • https://twitter.com/draddee Sunn

    let’s just put it this way. kelly is still having problems with her label. that much should tell you something. now imagine being a brand new kid on the scene. yup.

    Has anyone ever considered that Kelly might be partially to blame for her troubles. After all her she’s having problems with RCA, a major label enjoying a huge roster of stars with whom they seem to have a decent relationship. She had trouble with evil 19 and left them. Now, she’s complaining about RCA.

    Kelly, from what I’ve seen of her, is impulsive, stubborn and uncomfortable with the music business. All of which spells turbulence to me.

  • JazzRocks

    I guess we don’t know if this is THE song. I hate it, so I hope not.

  • snuffles

    Man, if people are trippin’ this much over Kris’ song, this place is going to blow up when Adam’s gets leaked.

  • saga

    Has anyone ever considered that Kelly might be partially to blame for her troubles.

    I am thinking this too. I mean, isn’t Christina on the same label? She seems to have been given quite a lot for freedom since her first album. Or do they have seperate rule for alumi idols, no matter how well they perform after idol?

  • jtoms

    saga
    September 15, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Has anyone ever considered that Kelly might be partially to blame for her troubles.

    I am thinking this too. I mean, isn’t Christina on the same label? She seems to have been given quite a lot for freedom since her first album. Or do they have seperate rule for alumi idols, no matter how well they perform after idol?

    no christina has definitely had to fight hard for her artistic freedom. many of her fans (including me) have lamented about RCA’s ineptness. even going back to her most recent album, the singles chosen for releases and the order in which they were released (against christina’s wishes, much like kelly’s “already gone” instead of “cry”) and promotion of them were horrible.

  • Mary102

    Man, if people are trippin’ this much over Kris’ song, this place is going to blow up when Adam’s gets leaked.

    I’m hiding already ;-) I’m already a pile of nerves in anticipation of the album and single. One reason why I’d love to have the tour go on for another 3 months – because in tour-land everything is nice and safe and filled with good reviews for Adam :-)

    But, I guess we have to move on eventually…

  • saga

    no christina has definitely had to fight hard for her artistic freedom. many of her fans (including me) have lamented about RCA’s ineptness.

    Still, she has freedom now (all being relative ofcourse)? Just because you have to fight for it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. And Xtinas choices weren’t bad, I think she has a more solid fanbase now that is ready to buy her albums no matter if she has a hit single or not, just because they trust her to be intersting.

  • jtoms

    saga
    September 15, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    no christina has definitely had to fight hard for her artistic freedom. many of her fans (including me) have lamented about RCA’s ineptness.

    Still, she has freedom now (but I see your point)? Just because you have to fight for it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. And Xtinas choices weren’t bad, I think she has a more solid fanbase now that is ready to buy her albums no matter if she has a hit single or not, just because they trust her to be intersting.

    but that’s what i’m saying. kelly and christina share alot of similar traits and have battled against their record labels. it’s not a bad thing to be stubborn and fight for what you want your music to be. for the time being, christina has the upper hand against RCA, while kelly is still fighting for it. this isn’t to say that RCA won’t screw up again with christina’s next album. my point is that if seasoned musicians are most certainly seen as cash cows to the big record labels, it’s naive to think that new artists are given as much, or more, leeway.

  • suebrody

    I listened to it again. The lyrics are dreck, e.g.:

    Sometimes we fall down and we can’t get back up
    Sometimes we’re hiding behind skin that’s too tough

    . *zzz*

    And in the chorus there are far too many words.

    Seriously, it’s NoBo all over again that way. There is some potential with the melody, but I don’t think that’s enough.

    I’m getting the album, b/c I bought the pass, but I do.no.like.this.song at all.

  • Valentin432

    Kelly, from what I’ve seen of her, is impulsive, stubborn and uncomfortable with the music business. All of which spells turbulence to me.

    I think she is independent, free spirited and has a strong idea of what she wants to do, to me these are all qualities when you are an artist. She has grown a lot since she was on AI and doesn’t want to be just a canvas for the record label.

  • luvadamlambert

    OMK THIS IS AWESSOME!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t think he would do a cover fir his first song….I’m buying it…homies or not:D

  • koshka

    Oh yeah.. I do think they are puppets to an extent. The weaker the personality and the more indecisive the artist – they’ll get steam rolled. I just can’t imagine TPTB sitting down with someone like Jordin and asking her what vision she has for her music. I doubt she had any past, I wanta sing pop.

    I’d bet my life that if the newly contracted idol doesn’t speak up and have some backbone they most certainly will have songs thrown at them and have parts of the decision making process removed from their care.

    The music business is not what it used to be. The margins are slim and there is no longer a desire to really nurture the artist. You better have a hit out the gate or your days are numbered. Labels are not going to spend time and money ‘giving it a shot’ and keeping their fingers crossed.

    Doesn’t matter if the end product is crap. The excuse doesn’t even really matter. No one will care. Ask Taylor.

  • Michelle

    If The Script song is the same, I think there are some good “bones” in there to work with. I like the whole uptempo breezy wordy thing. It could use some punching up in terms of hooks, it all sort of mushes together except for the title line in the chorus.

    I agree with jtoms in that I doubt artists in the music industry are given much freedom or respect from their labels unless their bosses think it serves their own interests. They’re commodities.

    Anyway Idols are probably given an even shorter leash cause 19/Sony see all the built in name recognition plus the amount of promo they usually give their Top 2 surrounding their launch, and they play conservative in the name of not “messing up”.

    Plus the lead single is pretty much guaranteed to sell at least *some* units even if it is just due to leftover Idol buzz, so it’s a nice “gift” to give it to a songwriter/label you are trying to build ties with or whatever. (as opposed to your artist who is tied to you already anyway.) (ehem, Chris Cornell)

  • luvadamlambert

    If I were them I would make my first album crap that sells well .you’ll be garynteed to have a second album and hve creative control over it ,with more ppl checkng it out .it could be selling out but I really don’t care…:)

  • ravengirl

    Man, if people are trippin’ this much over Kris’ song, this place is going to blow up when Adam’s gets leaked.

    Well, we did, kinda, when the “Time for Miracles” news broke. Man, we were all abuzz on that one. But it was different because instead of a cheesy song and lyrics (Sorry, Kris, but ick) we only had a cheesy title and the impressive positioning of Adam’s name and the song on the “2012” movie poster.

    But, yeah, when something from his debut album leaks, watch out! I’ve just gotta believe that it will be spectacular.

    And I do think that while Adam may say he has a large role in the direction of his album, I’m not so sure any of the other idols, particularly Kris, do. Look at how little they seemed to “package” their performances on AI. Adam was the one who took the reigns, asked for the lighting, thought out of the box, paid for part of the expensive clothes. Kris? Well, he donned his jeans and flannel, had a couple of ideas on song arrangements that worked out and appeared to take whatever else he was given.

  • Tess

    As far as Kris and his input into his career….

    He must have a guardian angel or he let it be known that No Boundaries was killing him during the early days of the tour. Either TBTB were watching out for him or he said something…because the song disappeared and with it any profit the recording may have made.

    So if Kris gets bland or unsingable on his first single it won’t be because he was pushed around by TPTB. He has already been the beneficiary of good vibes so why shouldn’t that continue. If the song is drek…then Kris is partly responsible and if it is good he is partly responsible. No scapegoat for Kris on this one. He’s already used up that ACE.

  • alaadam

    Either TBTB were watching out for him or he said something’ ¦because the song disappeared and with it any profit the recording may have made.

    In an interview, Kris said the producers came up to him about getting rid of NB. Then, he picked which song would replace it. Don’t remember which interview but I actually think it was more than one.

  • snood199

    This is a terrible song. I hope a cover of this isn’t his single- I don’t even care about Kris’s music that much, I just don’t want this crap on my radio.

  • McD

    Adam was the one who took the reigns, asked for the lighting, thought out of the box, paid for part of the expensive clothes. Kris? Well, he donned his jeans and flannel, had a couple of ideas on song arrangements that worked out and appeared to take whatever else he was given

    .

    Apparently that worked since he won the whole thing.

  • evanjane

    The Script is an alternate rock band with R&B leanings out of Dublin. I love the single WE CRY, which was a big hit in the UK. I heard a bit of David Gray in the lead singer every so often when I was listening to my CD today. I had bought David Gray’s White Ladder so long ago as a cassette tape. I love, love Babylon. I think associating Kris with The Script and David Gray is a really, really cool thing.

    When I hear a song for the first time, the melody and the voice grab me first. The chorus, also, is all important, as far as, I’m concerned. Most people remember the chorus of songs and even the worst of singers love to belt out songs in the shower or car or wherever.

    American Idol is about selling records. If you’re looking for non-mainstream music, non-commerical music, American Idol would be the last place to find it. I’m thinking avant-garde isn’t in TPTB’s vocabulary. Although, I do have a glimmer of hope that Kris Allen might just find critical success in his genre and Adam Lambert, too, might be able to push the envelope a bit with the success of artists like Lady Gaga.

    As VFTW stated, David Cook, Kris Allen and, yes, Adam Lambert BROKE American Idol. I think they’re all savvy enough to know that financial success is paramount for future creative freedom.

    If this is to be Kris’s first single, I’m all for it. I can’t wait to hear what he does with it.

  • twittwit

    “And I do think that while Adam may say he has a large role in the direction of his album, I’m not so sure any of the other idols, particularly Kris, do. Look at how little they seemed to ‘package’  their performances on AI. Adam was the one who took the reigns, asked for the lighting, thought out of the box, paid for part of the expensive clothes. Kris? Well, he donned his jeans and flannel, had a couple of ideas on song arrangements that worked out and appeared to take whatever else he was given.”

    Have you heard any of the albums or even the singles from the upcoming albums to make this conclusion?

  • BCU79

    There is no point in getting all excited or bent out of shape until there is confirmation that The Script song is in fact the one that Kris is releasing. And even then my concern will be how his version sounds.

    The number of people listening to the radio who will have heard this song and will connect it to The Script are going to be very small.

  • FolkFan

    I hope that the Script song is not what Kris is doing, both because, even if the song is not well known, the fact that it was previously released by another band does make it a cover, and because I don’t really like it much. But we’ll see.

    None of the Idols are going to say before they release their albums that they hope will be huge successes that they had no say in how the albums were created.

  • cilady

    McD- My thoughts exactly. :lol:

  • koshka

    As VFTW stated, David Cook, Kris Allen and, yes, Adam Lambert BROKE American Idol. I think they’re all savvy enough to know that financial success is paramount for future creative freedom.

    VFTW said this? How did Kris break idol? I can see the argument with Cook and Adam is OTT…. No matter my opinion of Blake. They should add him to that list. He was so out of the box. I’ll have to see if I can find this.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Let’s face it, neither Kris, Adam or Allison will have any say on what is ultimately on their albums. They will be given the opportunity to contribute but the label will have the final say. If a version of this song is actually Kris’s first single, it will be up to Kris to put his hear and soul in singing it and promoting it. I could care less if it is a cover or not. I like others can see some possibilites for Kris and his producing team (the nameless and faceless ones) to make a catchy little radio friendly tune out of the song. I can also see a lot of possibilities for a nice video. It would be interesting is The Script has any association with 19 ENT. Fuller seems to have a pattern of keeping things under his umbrella of control. This whole issue has really sparked a debate, I don’t recall this much furor over Jordan Sparks’s next single. It samples the heck out of the song “Let the Music Play”. Until, Kris’s single is officially released there is no need to be up in arms. Let’s just wait and see. For all we know, this is just a teaser to see how it would fly and Kris may be releasing a differnt song and this song may just be on of the tracks on his full album.

  • adamisthemanfan

    umm…I honestly hope, for Kris’s sake that this isn’t his new single…it sounds like a song for little kids…not even…it sounds like a song from some little kids trying to be cool and really arent lol

  • evanjane

    “So if Kris gets bland or unsingable on his first single it won’t be because he was pushed around by TPTB. He has already been the beneficiary of good vibes so why shouldn’t that continue. If the song is drek’ ¦then Kris is partly responsible and if it is good he is partly responsible. No scapegoat for Kris on this one. He’s already used up that ACE.” — TESS

    I think Kris Allen, although, appearing unassuming and quiet, takes things square on. The kid’s all ready shown he’s got chutzpah. Taking on the burden himself to tell the Bridgeport audience he wouldn’t be performing tells me Kris Allen is no shirker. Taking on an acoustic Heartless or a Donna Summer’s {sic} disco song was just the tip of the iceberg. He’s all ready been credited for making smart song choices, taking risks, changing things up quite creatively and quite successfully.

    I think Kris had a lot of say in getting rid of NOBO and choosing The Killer’s song, which was clearly a smart move. He most definitely is the “quiet storm”. If, in fact, this is the single, I have faith that it will do well.

  • cilady

    I think it was What Not to Sing that claimed that Kris broke American Idol because he managed to win despite all the machinations of the AI producers and judges to crown someone else (*coughcoughadamcoughcough*). As someone who has watched multiple seasons and who thought this season was particularly blatant with the manipulation, I tend to agree with them.

    But that’s not really on topic. Show’s over and it’s a completely different game now. For the most part whether people like the single or not, the general consensus at MJs seems to be that the song sounds like something Kris will do. If nothing else, that’s a relief if in fact Kris is doing The Script’s song. Jive doesn’t seem to be pushing Kris to be something he’s not.

  • vanjess38

    ravengirl,
    What makes you think Adam will have a say more than Kris in his album? Kris has already said in interviews that so far he feels they respect him and hi musical abilities and I can say that Kris might have been given even more co- writing sessions than any of the S8 idols so far.
    Secondly what will Kris be doing with smoke, heavy lighting and all that with his set? It just wouldn’t fit his style and so are the other idols. Adams set is more of rock that’s why he needs that.
    Kris’ style needs no expensive dressing. Check Rob Thomas and a lot of artists who are like Kris. Most guitar playing artists don’t wear anything extraordinary, and it’s mainly because of their guitar.
    So it’s not like he takes anything thrown at him as you’re saying. He worked his way with simplicity on the show and I believe people loved his style. He’s not going to go for anything different because he’s no more on the show?

  • luvadamlambert

    Mcd,I could debate that ALL DAY but that’s OBVIOUSLY not the point:/

  • twittwit

    I think Kris Allen, although, appearing unassuming and quiet, takes things square on. The kid’s all ready shown he’s got chutzpah. Taking on the burden himself to tell the Bridgeport audience he wouldn’t be performing tells me Kris Allen is no shirker. Taking on an acoustic Heartless or a Donna Summer’s {sic} disco song was just the tip of the iceberg. He’s all ready been credited for making smart song choices, taking risks, changing things up quite creatively and quite successfully.

    I think Kris had a lot of say in getting rid of NOBO and choosing The Killer’s song, which was clearly a smart move. He most definitely is the ‘quiet storm’ . If, in fact, this is the single, I have faith that it will do well.

    Well said. Don’t forget Kris’ risky choice of an obscure song “Falling Slowly”.

  • girlygirl

    semi-OT:

    Kris has gone past 100,000 followers on twitter.

    And again — I’m not jumping to any conclusions on whether this single is a cover of The Script song or not.

    Kris is pretty stubborn, so if he doesn’t like the recording I have a feeling he would fight tooth and nail against releasing it. Of course, in the end, he doesn’t have a lot of power about what is released as his single or put on his album (neither does Adam or any of the other Idols looking to release debut albums) — but he could certainly speak up about it (like I am sure he did about NoBo — even if he said all the correct things publicly). Kris has very good musical instincts, so if he’s happy with it, then that should be a positive.

  • isidra

    I agree vanjess38.

    Heck, wasn’t there some behind-the-scenes issue, with Kris rejecting the orchestra back-up for “What’s Going On?” He may not have gone to the same lengths as Adam did in arranging his visual effects, but it seems like he’s more than willing to speak up when he thinks it’s important.

  • Kath77

    If this is Kris’s single, I expect the song to do well in AC. It’s not edgy or artistic by any means, though. It will continue the long line of AI artists known for bland and safe music. No wonder Kris was reluctant to talk about his album.

  • butte009

    Even if this were the original basis for the song I find it hard to believe that Kris wouldn’t “Allenize” it into something completely different. That’s what he did successfully on Idol.

    As far as the lyrics being complete dreck…. They may be. But they are in the company of most of today’s popular Top 40 songs.

    Isn’t MTV starting a series this fall about a group of guys who are living life while they can? Something about doing good deeds along the way? I ignored most of the commercials during the VMAs. The title could make it a potential theme song. Just a random thought…..

  • monte

    I haven’t even listened to the song yet. I just don’t like the title because it is way to close to Tim McGraw’s very popular song Live like you are Dying. On other blogs that is what they are talking about. Everyone says didn’t Tim McGraw sing that song when they hear the title of Kris’ new single. I’m not so sure that is a good move.

  • vanjess38

    I have always learnt my lesson when it come s to KRIS “MOTHERF” ALLEN (as the benches call him). I never underestimate him whenit comes to his music , so I willkeep my fingers crossed till I hear the single.
    Didn’t he say Nobo was difficult to sing right after finale? I think he was talked out of saying anything further.
    He was the one Rickey Minor and the IDOL vocal coach( she’s a lady) referred to as “THE QUIET STORM & FIRE respectively. I have no doubt in my mind that he is fine. At least the last interview he had, he sems to excited about his single. Jive are no fools to bring out something they are not confident about. As for the title similarity, there’s nothing wrong about it. The Script have a song titled I’M YOURS, did it take anything away from Jason Mraz?

  • Sherena

    Ugh, I hope Kris isn’t going to release some band’s leftover b-side as his lead single. Seriously.

    And this song is awful. Tuneless, bland, weak lyrics, and completely forgettable.

  • Q3

    Either TBTB were watching out for him or he said something’ ¦because the song disappeared and with it any profit the recording may have made.

    In an interview, Kris said the producers came up to him about getting rid of NB. Then, he picked which song would replace it. Don’t remember which interview but I actually think it was more than one.

    This is in the Raj Kampoor interview. He directed the Idol Live Show. And, with the poor reviews and equally bad audience response to NoBo, I don’t think they had a choice. It was a turkey — and you shot turkeys and eat them for Thansgiving dinner — while you say thanks that you don’t have to sing NoBo anymore!!

    I don’t know if The Script song is the song, but their song really sounds like something that 19/Jive and Kris might pick. If it is this song, I expect it to sound like Heartless (studio version), and be something that Kris fans like. I also expect to read criticism that Kris did a cover for his first single.

    IMO these lyrics ARE boring drek. So, if Kris is stuck with this song (I am still hoping this is not THE song), I hope he figures out something brilliant to do with it.

  • wand3rful

    I think she is independent, free spirited and has a strong idea of what she wants to do, to me these are all qualities when you are an artist.

    thank you. i think if people were more aware of how manipulative, controlling label companies can be, they would understand kelly’s frustrations. she has always been a very blunt personality…much like kris, what you see is what you get. i hope he doesn’t experience the same issues down the road.

  • hollygo9

    It reminds me of Maroon5’s Songs about Jane cd. Kris could make that work.

  • wand3rful

    ravengirl,
    What makes you think Adam will have a say more than Kris in his album?

    because she’s an adam fan LOL

  • s0x_prisoner

    I LOVE THE SCRIPT! They’re one of my favorite bands. I think this particular song by The Script is decent, but definitely not one of their best. I’m sure whatever Kris releases as his single will be fantastic though.

  • carmine2008

    Adam was the one who took the reigns, asked for the lighting, thought out of the box, paid for part of the expensive clothes. Kris? Well, he donned his jeans and flannel, had a couple of ideas on song arrangements that worked out and appeared to take whatever else he was given

    Dramatic lighting and expensive costumes isn’t Kris’ style, so why should he ask for it?

  • carmine2008

    If the song is drek’ ¦then Kris is partly responsible and if it is good he is partly responsible. No scapegoat for Kris on this one. He’s already used up that ACE.

    You’re making it sound like Kris has been making excuses thus far, when he hasn’t even done anything other than confirm the title of his first single and dumped No Boundaries from his Tour set. What ACE are you talking about?

  • carmine2008

    VFTW said this? How did Kris break idol? I can see the argument with Cook and Adam is OTT’ ¦. No matter my opinion of Blake. They should add him to that list. He was so out of the box. I’ll have to see if I can find this.

    Well, for one, he overcame being under-praised and the being thrown under the bus week after week. He won despite very little exposure at the beginning and very little love from the judges. He was also very different in an understated and subtle way.

  • tripp_ncwy

    “From the grassy knoll”, what if Jive presented “Live Like We’re Dying” to Kris without giving him the background. Kris liked it and recorded it. Jive tells Kris that this will be his first single but not to tell anybody. Kris accidentally reveals the song on Twitter causing a firestorm of negative reactions. Kris hears about the fuss and goes off on Jive for duping him into recording the song and refuses to sing it. Jive backs down and “NOT TOO LATE TO RUN” is released instead. Problem solved.

  • Trina

    Didn’t Kelly say recently she didn’t want Already Gone released due to it being similar to Halo? I’m sure David would have preferred a song he wrote to be his first singles as opposed to songs he didn’t. It’s ridiculous to assume Kris would have any say in his first single. No, if it turns out to be bad I’ll certainly blame Jive. If a song Kris wrote all by himself turns out to be the the first single and it sucks THEN I’ll blame Kris.

  • Sherena

    I don’t care that this is a cover. I actually LIKE the title. My problem is that the song is drek. I’m just hoping that this isn’t going to be Kris’ actual single, or that if it is, he changed it a lot, lyrically and melodically.

    Kris has got to have written songs better than this so far.

  • alxsavage

    I don’t love the song, sounds like it fits Megan’s singing style, I’m expecting something less generic from Kriss. Yes, I’m still expecting something from him, can’t wait to know what a Kris Allen song sounds like.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I hope he releases his single by the end of the month. It would be nice if he could release it a bit before the album drops, so it can get radio play and momentum.

    I kinda like this song, if this is it. I would say its better than a lot songs that 19 has imposed on its idols. I’m also thinking he could bring his own spin on it. I guess time will tell.

  • Keel

    So to those Cook historians out there ‘“ did a demo version of Cornell’s LO ever surface? Do we know if David significantly rearranged the song from the version written by CC?

    No. If Cornell himself ever recorded a demo of LO it has never surfaced. As for re-working the song, the fact that Cook did not carry a co-writing credit with Cornell and Howes probably indicates that the song was not changed in any meaningful way either musically or lyrically when Cook recorded it. With ‘Bar-ba-Sol’ , for instance, we know that he took a previously-recorded song from the Atlanta band Injected, and changed the title, structure, and lyrics very slightly (but enough to get a co-writing credit). Since this didn’t happen with LO I’m guessing it was recorded pretty much as written.

    Well, actually someone at DCO deconstructed the Injected’s version vs. David’s version and found out that David made a lot more changes to BBS than people originally thought — way more than just the lyrics. An actual lead guitar part was added in (meatier, as it were, because his lead guitarist had the chops for it), the rhythm guitar parts were lessened with the drums driving the rhythm solely in parts (i.e., without the rhythm guitar), a more melodic bassline was added, the rhythm guitar (which no longer had to deal with driving the beat) then participated in the melodies and countermelodies to what the lead guitar was playing, and then David also participating in the harmonies on guitar, and, of course, on the bridge we get the guitar duet between David and Neal instead of the more repetitive bridge that the Injected had.

  • jga94

    The song is good IMO…just that some of the lyrics are iffy…but I like the chorus..catchy…very pop.

  • jmom376

    Personally, I think I will wait to critique his new music when we have actually heard it and not based on assumptions because of a song title. It’s funny how some people take speculation and try to convince everyone it is the truth..

  • cilady

    ‘From the grassy knoll’ , what if Jive presented ‘Live Like We’re Dying’  to Kris without giving him the background. Kris liked it and recorded it.

    If Kris liked the song, who cares where it came from? It’s not like Jive is doing something illegal here. IMO people are overstating the whole “cover” thing. If LLWD is in fact the same song as The Script’s, the majority of radio listeners will have never heard the original at all. And even the music critics won’t be all pissed off if his version is a good one…that is if they’ve even heard the original, but I guess there’s always youtube.

  • http://talkinaboutmovies.blogspot.com Brenoga

    I don’t know. If he changes the meldoy maybe it could be good.
    I mean, I can for sure listen to his voice singing this but it doesn’t feel like kris to me. I think the song fits his voice, but doesn’t fit his style. Am I making any sense here?

  • erennick

    I think the song fits his voice, but doesn’t fit his style. Am I making any sense here?

    Yes. The melody def. needs to be changed up.

  • Mary102

    OK – I know I suck, but I FINALLY got a chance to listen to the song. I think the chorus is pretty catchy (though that 86,400 seconds bit is very reminiscent of Rent, which makes it feel rather dated, imo).

    Otherwise, I feel this song would be a perfect fit for Kris, his voice and style, and the kind of music I would expect him to sing. The instrumental arrangement is kinda lame, so hopefully they’ll spruce that up a bit, and there are some lazy bits in the melodic line, imo, but with some tweaks Kris could definitely make this his own and improve upon it. And I do think that the chorus is pretty freaking catchy – which is sometimes all you need (It’s Not Over – anyone? ;-))

  • Mary102

    VFTW said this? How did Kris break idol? I can see the argument with Cook and Adam is OTT’ ¦. No matter my opinion of Blake. They should add him to that list. He was so out of the box. I’ll have to see if I can find this.

    Well, for one, he overcame being under-praised and the being thrown under the bus week after week. He won despite very little exposure at the beginning and very little love from the judges. He was also very different in an understated and subtle way.

    IIRC – it was actually whatnottosing.com that said Kris broke Idol – for the reasons you stated above.

    Though I personally thought that theory was crappy, because Idol underdogs OFTEN win (or at least do much better) simply because of the backlash against judge over-pimping, which is why Adam being told REPEATEDLY that he was a shoe-in for the finals was probably the worst thing tptb could have done to him. David Cook is another good example – over-pimping of Archie throughout last season, and a lot of voter backlash due to Simon’s comments about Archie winning in a knockout in the final 2 round.

    But that’s a whole other story ;-)

  • evanjane

    “though that 86,400 seconds bit is very reminiscent of Rent, which makes it feel rather dated, imo). ” Mary102

    I stated that myself, except for the “dated” part. I love RENT and the music stands the test of time.

    “it was actually whatnottosing.com that said Kris broke Idol ‘“” Mary102

    You’re correct — my mistake.

    “simply because of the backlash against judge over-pimping, which is why Adam being told REPEATEDLY that he was a shoe-in for the finals was probably the worst thing tptb could have done to him.” — Mary 102

    Makes you wonder why the judges did it then, doesn’t it … Simon manipulated the hell out of me this season. If I watch the next season and foolishly invest in another contestant, I’m certain I’ll be “played” again. lol

    Live Like We’re Dying is definitely a song Kris could relate to wholeheartedly. The title — not really happy with it, but titles aren’t what makes or breaks a song for me. Lyrics — well, yeah, I wish they weren’t so pedestrian. I remember reading somewhere that Spencer Tracy said he was like a baked potato and Hepburn was like a souffle in reference to their acting styles. (HA! Now that I think about it, it’s the same as Kris and Adam. lol) As far as these lyrics are concerned, I would have liked a bit more souffle. Better use of language.

    Yesterday, my daughter was watching Youtube videos on her laptop. The moment I heard the guitar, I knew exactly what song she was listening to and I had only listened to Live Like We’re Dying twice. Immediately identifiable, recognizable, instant impact. Somewhat like The Killers’ ATTTID opening guitar.

    I truly like the song, but I’m hoping it’s not it, just because I want to be surprised by it. It kind of feels like finding your Christmas presents ahead of time … I still wonder why Kris answered that question about the single on twitter without hesitation, but did not elaborate.

    Being “played” again? :::shrugs:::

  • jammasta

    Gossip Candy linked to a snippet Kris’s single, and apparently it’s the same song.

    I wanted something new, but whatever.

  • sandyc

    I like it. It’s very cute and catchy and I think it’ll fit Kris like a glove. I’m excited now!

  • sandyc

    Wow! Am I the only person who likes the song? I can see it easily catching on and gaining airplay. It sounds perfect for Kris. I don’t think it matters if it’s already been recorded before. It’s never been released as a single
    until now.
    I personally wasn’t expecting Kris to release anything too deep or serious–at least not as a first single. If presented right, this song could be a great introduction of Kris as an artist.

  • Mary102

    Makes you wonder why the judges did it then, doesn’t it ‘ ¦ Simon manipulated the hell out of me this season. If I watch the next season and foolishly invest in another contestant, I’m certain I’ll be ‘played’  again. lol

    Manipulation – thy name is idol :-) LOL! I could go all day long about conspiracy theories. Sometimes, though, I think Simon, for all his “brilliance”, just doesn’t know any better – that he’s actually hurting who he’s trying to help!

    But I also think the song is catchy – especially the chorus.