Idol Headlines for 2/21/13

Tonight on American Idol, 10 guys take the stage at the Love theater at the Mirage in Las Vegas. Five will be sent home by the judges. Tune in at 8/7c PM on FOX

Appearances:

Carrie Underwood performs at Spokane Arena in Spokane, WA.
Constantine Maroulis performs in Jekyll & Hyde the Musical at the Pantages Theatre in Los Angeles, CA.
Taylor Hicks performs at Paris Casino in Las Vegas, NV.
Mandisa performs at the 3 in 1 Tour in Pensacola, FL.
Kris Allen performs at Soiled Dove Underground in Denver, CO.
Adam Lambert performs at Shibuya Kokaido in Tokyo, Japan.
Scotty McCreery performs at STAGE AE in Pittsburgh, PA.
Phillip Phillips performs at the Colosseum at Caesars Palace in Windsor, Canada.
Colton Dixon performs at the Patriot Center in Fairfax, VA.

Keith Urban And Randy Jackson On Surviving The Nicki/Mariah “American Idol” Firestorm – ABV: On the flip side, what has it been like for both of you to be witnesses to the Nicki/Mariah kerfluffles that the show itself has played up in several episodes?  KU: The thing is for me, there’s a learning curve in everything. There was a learning curve in our “dance troupe.” We got thrown on a dance floor, and with no choreography, and they just said, “Dance together! And don’t step on toes!” It’s, like, insane! That’s the best way I can put it. That shit really happened. We had to figure stuff out. We had to do it on the job. We did it. We worked through it. The girls are pros. Here we are. RJ: And little do people know, little do they realize, every panel has had its adjustment period. I think Paula and Simon fought the whole time. There were icy [periods]; they weren’t speaking for weeks. (laughs) Simon and I had… – Read more at Buzzfeed

Phillip Phillips Talks Matchbox Twenty Tour &”Gone Gone Gone”

Kris Allen: Total Request Idol – “In coming up with the set, you just want the fans, especially nowadays, you want them to have a reason to come to shows,” Allen explained during my interview with him last week prior to performing to a sold-out crowd later that evening at Café du Nord in San Francisco, CA. “People aren’t coming to shows like they used to and that’s okay, I get it, but I think that’s just another reason for them to come every night and see if I’m going to do their song, possibly. It keeps us on our toes too, which is really good, because we could … [do] the same thing every night, which is cool and a lot of people do that, but … it helps us get warmed up before the shows too. We get to play and kind of sing a little bit, so it’s good.” – Read more at Blogcritics

‘American Idol’ winner Scotty McCreery talks about stardom and his Atlantic City solo debut – Do you have aspirations of expanding your empire beyond the music industry? McCreery: I think for right now, I need to focus on my music and make sure all is going well there first. If I end up having this career for the rest of my life, like I want, then things will go as I want them too. But who knows what can come down the road in the future. If we get offered something, we might jump on it and take an acting role or something, but for right now it’s just music. But I’ve been in a play and musical before in high school, so I did a little acting there. – Read more at NJ.Com

Scotty McCreery’s booked solid – “College ain’t no joke,” he laughed. “I’m taking a full course load. It’s 13 hours. It’s Monday through Wednesday, and then we tour Thursday through Sunday.” The schedule, McCreery acknowledged, makes for a lot of long days and occasionally having to do homework on the bus. That’s what he said he was supposed to do, anyway, but he acknowledged it’s sometimes hard to make it happen. “It’s all time management,” he said. “I have to get that down, and once I get into a rhythm, it will all go smoothly.” – Read more at WVGazette.com

Scotty McCreery Host Keep the Music Playing All Stars Concert

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Mindy McCready Connection To Carrie Underwood — EXCLUSIVE – RumorFix has learned exclusively that Mindy’s last song, “I’ll See You Yesterday,” was initially intended for the American Idol winner. Songwriter Courtney Dashe tells RumorFix, “Carrie had the song ‘on hold,’ which means she liked it and was thinking about recording it.” Then the songwriter met Mindy at a writer’s night in Nashville a few years ago. Courtney shares, “After the show, she came up to me with tears running down her face. She said something to the effect of, ‘Your song, ‘I’ll See You Yesterday,’ I have to record that song. That’s about my life … what’s going on with that song? I have to record it.’” – Read more at Rumor Fix

I’m OzCar – Rejected American Idol Puppet’s Debut Single

Mariah Carey on ‘Idol’ Contestants and Anniversary Plans

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  • girlygirltoo

    The Idol contestants, judges and crew are still in Vegas, right? Hope they all stay safe — the Strip has been shut down this morning because of a shooting/car accident — at least 3 dead :(

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3-dead-several-hurt-las-vegas-strip-shooting

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    An article after Scotty’s Atlantic City show…love how Sold Out is in the title:)

    http://www.nj.com/atlantic-city-entertainment/index.ssf/2013/02/american_idol_winner_scotty_mc.html

  • asifclueless

    Day 3,  Tokyo, Shibuya WAG Concert.

    Out of this world “STAY” and Nice Underwear … oops … I mean “UNDERNEATH”

    Adam Lambert “Stay” “Underneath” – Live in Tokyo – Feb 21, 2013 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9I_WMJQSM&list=PL8wdt9PU1zxUpm4XQPgO90qJpZ3r12v0f&index=1

  • Triskel4

    Interesting stuff from the Kris interview.  Jim Cantiello was funny as always, but my favorite in the headlines was Ozcar.  Why, why why was he rejected?  LOL!

  • curly_yenta

    Caesars begins hiring effort aimed at former military members

    LAS VEGAS — Caesars Entertainment Inc. Chairman Gary Loveman kicked off the company’s new hiring initiative Wednesday by introducing six employees ranging from senior level executives to frontline casino workers.

    ….A handful of Caesars headliners, including Penn & Teller, Taylor Hicks, Jeff Civillico and cast members of Bally’s “Jubilee!,” “Million Dollar Quartet,” “MJ Live” and “The Rat Pack is Back,” gave the program a Las Vegas flair.

    Full article:
    http://www.casinocitytimes.com/article/caesars-begins-hiring-effort-aimed-at-former-military-members-61875

  • asifclueless

    Adam Lambert “Dragon Attack” “Shady” – Live in Tokyo 

    Shady is close to the We Are Family version with Nile and Sam + Jazzy break.

    Enjoy!!!! It gets better and better.  I don’t know how it’s going to be epic in Singapore …  :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCswUMRBuGM

  • bridgette12

     I think this is the best yet Stay and Underneath. What can you say about this guy, he just keeps amazing you.

  • justmefornow

    Interesting tweets today from the recording studio, hmmm I’m intrigued……

    Stevie ?@Stevie_Music
    In the studio with @DurbinRock & Griffin Boice. Dude is singing his ass off! #LONGESTNOTEEVER 
    http://instagr.am/p/V_6POQRV97/ 

    Stevie ?@Stevie_Music
    @DurbinRock Great work today dude! You crushed it!

    James Durbin ?@DurbinRock
    @Stevie_Music So stoked you brought that idea!! Still can’t believe how it went from Papa Roach to Gotye over night haha!!

  • irockhard

    What’s the dirt on Stevie, who is he??????

    Papa Roach to Gotye? What does that mean????

    LOL James, teasing in NOT NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nadine_Bitch

    ”Nice Underwear” could be a hit!

    Some videos from Day 3:
    Trespassing http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F3VFOrBY85k
    Dragon Attack & “Shady” http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCswUMRBuGM
    PTL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS-W030aF5I&feature=player_embedded
    Stay (Close up&HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2wcsfYEPobo

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    So funny. Typical teenager. Mom what did you do?

    http://bit.ly/VMc0Xg

  • bridgette12

     I love this video, I have to get a better video of dragon attack and shady. The vocals are great, just need to see it clearer. Glad to see the “we are family” version of shady, with Tommy amazing me on guitar. I think Adam’s faith in him, has given Tommy the push toward being a good lead guitar. I’m been impressed so far by him stepping up and taking over the position once held by an experienced musician like Monte.

  • justmefornow

    LOL. I know. Talk about a curve ball! I thought he was in LA with Scott Stevens again. 
    From what little I can tell is Griffin Boice has a recording studio in LA and this Stevie, maybe, has some connection to the Swedish Rock/Metal band ‘Alien’.

  • tripp_ncwy

    FYI NYC:
    The Kris show at Highline Ballroom 5/1 has been moved to the Rockwood Music Hall for two shows. Check your email for details if you already bought tickets. Refunds are available for the Highline tickets and new tickets will have to be bought for the Rockwood show(s)

  • Nadine_Bitch

    Yup. check 3:20 on this video, makes me want to weep. So beautiful.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2wcsfYEPobo

    I don’t know what I’d do when it’s time for Finland. This was just his 3rd day and it’s already beyond perfection.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    Another great interview from the Mucic Playing All Star Concert. So Scotty’s album pushed back a bit but for all the right reason.

    http://stephnthecity.com/2013/02/scotty-mccreery-host-keep-the-music-playing-all-stars-concert/

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    Great interview. Love how Scotty answered this question. 

    There’s been a long debate about whether “American Idol” is like a shortcut to stardom or a hard road to it. What’s your viewpoint on it?

    Yeah, I’d invite anybody to go do what I did for months and see if they could survive. There were times I didn’t think I was going to make it, and I was talking to the family about buying a plane ticket home. It was tough, it was grueling, seven days a week, 24 hours in the day. If anyone wants to say it’s a shortcut, I invite them to go out there and try it themselves and see how they come out.

    I can see where that would be a comment they’d use back in the day, where there’s pretty much only a traditional way to get into Nashville or get in the recording industry, but in today’s age, there’s Justin Bieber getting found by YouTube or social media, there’s so many ways to break into it now, and it’s still such a rare chance, but there’s a lot more ways than the traditional way.
    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/ae/music/preview-scotty-mccreery-is-making-the-most-of-idol-win-preview-676233/#ixzz2LYW2aI6l

  • irockhard

    I must say I’m really happy that the people he’s working with keep tweeting how excited they are about the material they’re helping him to create. People love working with James.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    McCreery’s interviews are soothing to read: he has a definite point of view that he puts across tactfully.

  • bridgette12

     LOL! We keep saying it can’t get any better, but it does. I guess we tend to underestimate Adam sometimes, we forget how driven he is. I remember when he started the GNT are we wondered how his voice would stand up to the long tour and he just kept getting better and stronger. I can’t imagine how good these songs are going to be by the time he finish in Finland.

  • mmb

    Rockwood Music Hall is a cool little venue on Allen Street.  If you can imagine kind of a cross between a dive bar and a coffee house.  Hard to explain.  Lot smaller than the Highline, but definitely has a fun, cool vibe.

  • Chrissie H

    Am I ever thrilled to see and read all these posted positive Scotty news.
    And what an endearing sight to see and hear him sing The River with all those children at the CMA concert. I couldn´t say whether it´s due to his voice being more matured or my ears more familiar with country music or a combination- but this time I enjoyed him singing that song much more than back on AI. Very nice

  • asifclueless

    Day 3 Tokyo Shibuya Hall,  WAG TOUR, 21/2013

    The whole concert (FULL AUDIO).

    http://www.mediafire.com/?8pt3pwvu0q6n0m9

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    I was a little sad to hear that the album date is pushed back to summer, but understand the need to get it right.  Hope the gap doesn’t hurt anything!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    Hopefully in the meantime Scotty will release a single that will be on the chart and keep his name out there until the album comes out. 

    I trust there is a plan. New manager is a genius (so far) and I’m sure will not let Scotty nor his fans down. Crossing fingers. 

  • windmills

    Ever since it became known that Scotty started recording for his album in January, I knew the album wasn’t coming out in the spring. Even if Scotty is from Idol and has a good sized fanbase from the show, it’s logical to give the lead single of his sophomore album some lead time to get up the charts and in the best case scenario get other non-Idol fans interested in the album. I figured the lead time was going to be 4 months minimum. If Scotty has a pretty fast mover 4 months would probably be enough time to make t15, maybe t10. 

    I haven’t been expecting a Scotty single to actually hit radio until March/April. 4 months after that and you’re in July/August, which is what I told a few Scotty fans on twitter was a reasonable expectation for the album when they asked. But again that assumes a new Scotty single is at radio by March or April. 

    The other rule of thumb is always assume the album’s coming out later than the artist says it will, unless the release date is confirmed by the label. Strategic planning by the label pretty much always pushes the release date back. 

  • asifclueless

    Day 3 Tokyo WAG TOUR , Shibuya  21/2013

    OOL /2013 Feb 21 Tokyo3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDHkzOmm6RM&feature=player_embedded

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    Windmills “I haven’t been expecting a Scotty single to actually hit radio until March/April”.

    That long? Now I’m just as sad as Lexie is.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Nielsen Finally Gets with the Times; Makes Changes to Measuring TV Ratings
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nielsen-agrees-expand-definition-tv-422795

  • asifclueless

    Day 3, Tokyo, Shibuya WAG TOUR Concert.

    Adam is getting Cuckoo here.  He is a goofball. Good choreo dance at the beginning.

    No.1  – CUCKOO  -Tokyo Day3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz27w88lPa0&feature=player_embedded

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Nielsen Finally Gets with the Times; Makes Changes to Measuring TV Ratings
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.c

    Whoa! I clicked thinking it’d be a rehash of the social-ratings plan for fall 2013, and instead it’s Nielsen getting with the program on Broadband, XBox, and iPad viewing of TV. Yes, this needs to happen.

  • Larc

    Rockwood Music Hall claims a capacity of 74, but reports are it really can’t accommodate that many comfortably.  Highline Ballroom capacity is 700.  It seems strange they would move Kris’s concert to a far smaller venue so soon.  I could see it happening closer to show date if ticket sales weren’t going well, but May 1 is more than 2 months away.

  • Axxxel

    Cuckoo is so much fun: the choreography, the “crazy looks” on Adam’s face, the short play with the microphone stand and the dancers…

  • Axxxel

    The song “Cuckoo” is so much fun….Yeah, Adam should just use his acting and comedic skills more during the concert when it fits in the song.

  • Lobilobi

    Phillip Phillips Talks Matchbox Twenty Tour &”Gone Gone Gone” Music

     “Home” singer/songwriter Phillip
    Phillips talks about his current tour with Matchbox Twenty and his new
    music video for “Gone Gone Gone”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqrEGB6gSFg&sns=tw

    MTV’s Phillip Phillips
    MTV is having an intimate interview with Phillip Phillips and looking
    for big fans to come and watch the interview. If anyone is interested
    they should email mtvshowcasting@mtvstaff.com
    and put “Phillip” in the subject title with their name, age, and
    tickets requested. The taping is Tuesday Feb 26th from 12pm-1pm at the
    MTV Times Square Studio.

  • elliegrll

    He’s been averaging anywhere from 80 to 300 people per show, so this isn’t unusual.  

    Rockwood actually has two different concert rooms.  The one that you mention, and one that has a capacity around 150 for SRO.  For either room, it makes more sense to just do two shows, instead of booking a venue that has the possibility of being less than half full.

  • jan

    Rockwood Music Hall has 2 rooms. Stage 2 has a reported capacity of 200.

    ETA: Oops – I see Elliegrll already corrected capacity – although I saw sites that claimed capacity for Stage 2 was 200.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Video Yahoo Music:  EXCLUSIVE: Introducing Allison Iraheta and Halo Circus!

    http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/reality-rocks/exclusive-introducing-allison-iraheta-halo-circus-225458456.html

  • Lobilobi

    Exclusive Phillip Phillips On-Ice Passes Available
    Exclusive on-ice passes are now available for Phillip Phillips on March
    22! The American Idol winner will perform live following the game
    against the Peoria Rivermen at the BMO Harris Bradley Center. The
    concert is presented by Toyota, Lee Jeans and Coors Light and is free to
    attend with a game ticket.

    http://www.milwaukeeadmirals.com/home/news/2013/2/0221philliponicepasses.html

    Phillip Phillips & Ellie Goulding Rock The NBA All-Star Game!

    Young Hollywood is backstage at the Toyota Center in Houston where
    “American Idol” champ Phillip Phillips and electropop princess Ellie
    Goulding have just completed their soundchecks for their performances at
    the NBA All-Star Game! Phillip gives us the scoop on his music video
    for “Gone, Gone, Gone”, and Ellie tells us about having tea with none
    other than the Queen! Hosted by Lian Teicher Tanenbaum (@lian1120)..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz_OkmFTTpE&feature=youtu.be

  • girlygirltoo

    Those reports about the capacity can’t be right, unless there is more than one performing space at that venue. He sold out 2 shows in NYC in January at a venue that had a capacity of more than 200, so why would he book a venue with a capacity of less than 100, when it’s clear he can draw more fans than that?

  • Lobilobi

     flipsidepa
    ?@flipsidepa

    Noticed that the May 15 #PhillipPhillips concert @PulloCenter is sold out: http://ow.ly/hRope  Who is going? @Phillips

    http://pullocenter.yk.psu.edu/events/event_listing

  • KelseyW

    Cool to see that Scotty is playing near me tonight. I bet it will be a great show. :)

    There was a nice little article about him in my local paper’s(Tribune Review)Thursday special entertainment insert/mini magazine. Two errors,(Season 10 winner not 11, and Idol is in it’s 12th not 13th season. :P)but other than that a nice write up. Looks like the Post Gazette did a good one too. Props to them for being more in depth with their interview.

    Idols in western, PA. It CAN happen. Just not with my faves as of late. lol Still holding out hope though.

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Thanks for that perspective.:))

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Wait, Lucie…March is just a little over a week away.:)

    Actually, CRS is the end of next week.  If I’ve listened to my teachers here correctly, Scotty will introduce his new music at these events, further gauge reaction and then they’ll choose?   

    Crossing fingers and toes that a right choice is made.  

    By the way, has an UMG event like last year’s been announced?  We already know Scotty will be at the special Opry event on the 27th and then a regular Opry event (right before Blake) next Saturday…

  • elliegrll

    Those reports about the capacity can’t be right, unless there is more than one performing space at that venue. He sold out 2 shows in NYC in January at a venue that had a capacity of more than 200, so why would he book a venue with a capacity of less than 100, when it’s clear he can draw more fans than that?

    That’s why they’ve scheduled two shows.

  • Miz

    Yes, this newer venue has a capacity of 200. Nice that he’ll be doing 2 shows that night there. Nicer still is that the early show will be all ages. His under 21 fans have been complaining that they can’t go to Kris’ shows.

  • mchcat

    Me too – boo hoo hoo

  • MellyPer1692

    The Highline does allow all ages shows. From their website:

    AGE LIMIT:
    Unless otherwise noted, all shows are suitable for all ages and offer general admission seating.

    Highline is a 700 capacity venue, maybe ticket sales didnt warrant the cost of the venue or meet sales requirements. With two shows back to back, you’ll get repeat customers like at the LA shows. The new venue looks like a cool place and a great place for concerts so its all good.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    Lexie What was I thinking?  Scotty has me so confused with everything he has going right now that I thought March/April was close to 3 months.

    OK, smile on my face is back. Hereeeeeee’s to the new single.

  • Miz

    Doubtful the change of venue was due to ticket sales. The show was just recently announced and is in May. Last I looked at my calendar, it’s only February.

    I have no idea why they changed venues. 

    (Note: I got the 200 capacity number from Stage 2′s grand opening concert)

  • elliegrll

    Granted, I’m not as big of a fan as I used to be, but Kris isn’t going to draw 700 people to a concert right now.  The attendance that he’s been averaging during this tour should give him and his people a good idea about the types of venues they should be booking.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Granted, I’m not as big of a fan as I used to be, but Kris isn’t going to draw 700 people to a concert right now.

    What’s changed for you after 4yrs that you are no longer a big fan.

  • steph6449

    Danny tweeted this earlier today, maybe the news about his next album plan will finally hit by March?

    dannygokey: Writing hits for the next album. BIG music announcement coming soon!! pic.twitter.com/rlwUGr6DhN 

    The two gentlemen in the photo seem to be Nashville producer Keith Thomas, and songwriter Marcus Hummon.

    Keith Thomas worked with Chris Mann’s post-The Voice album, and tweeted before the holidays about having Danny “in the house.” Marcus has co-writing credits on songs like Rascal Flatts’ Bless the Broken Road and Sara Evans Born to Fly.

  • girlygirltoo

    the show was just announced so I doubt ticket sales are the reason for the change in venue. 

  • girlygirltoo

    The song request for Kris’ concert tonight is Fighters (bonus song on TYC). This may be the first time he’s performed that song live.

  • MellyPer1692

    It doesn’t have to be tickets to the Highline, they could be basing it on the tickets sold on the tour so far and the size of the audience he’s seen so far.

  • durbesque

    Phillip sold out the Pullo Center, May 15, $32/45.  I’m a little shocked.  I don’t know how many seats, but it’s huge. 

    What is happening?!  Is it ‘Home’?  or is it the gorgeous sound his band is putting out?  or both? 

  • MellyPer1692

    Pullo Center is not huge. Capacity is 1,016.

  • hellomusicgirl

    lol nvm I’m a slow typer

  • girlygirltoo

    Phillip has been selling out a lot of his college shows, I think. But that venue isn’t really huge — capacity is just over 1000.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    P2 is the latest Idol winner. With the exception of Lee, most Idol winners (especially the males) had headlining shows that sold out 1,000 seats or more. In fact, many of the male runner-ups had no problem selling 1,000 tickets the year after they had been on Idol.

  • Chrissie H

    Real nice interview with Froggy radio before Scotty´s concert last night in P.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOresJpU-So

  • tripp_ncwy

    Video: Kris Allen “Fighters” Soiled Dove Underground Denver, CO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoJ2bBL-6aE&feature=youtu.be

  • jpfan2

    “P2 is the latest Idol winner. With the exception of Lee, most Idol winners (especially the males) had headlining shows that sold out 1,000 seats or more. In fact, many of the male runner-ups had no problem selling 1,000 tickets”

    Yes but usually it’s too the same 1,000 fans! P2 is actually playing to different people every night. ;0 I mean his college shows seem full of actual college students.

    I’m kidding but only a little. Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of  dedicated fans that turn going into Idol shows to a full time career.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of  dedicated fans that
    turn going into Idol shows into a full time career.They’re usually found
    in the front row of the Idol’s concert. Same faces, different cities.

    How would someone know this unless they themselves are going to every show and doing a head count. I mean I don’t doubt it happens but what are we talking here in numbers. Maybe a dozen or so. I hardly think a dozen or so makes much of a difference.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Another Video w/o the banter: Kris Allen “Fighters” Soiled Dove Underground Denver, CO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF6xouStg4c

  • wordnerdarchie

    Pullo Center is not huge. Capacity is 1,016. Cook sold it out on his last tour and I think Archie may have too.

    Pullo usually does sell well.  I’m not surprised that P2 would sell it out.  He’s got one huge hit with another that is moving up the charts. His music is being used for backing tracks to how many different commercials again?  And he’s just come off of the last season of Idol, so his name is still fresh in people’s minds.

    Also, the lower ticket prices don’t hurt either.  Back in 2011 the Cook concert (w/Gavin) was going for $65/48, with M&Gs at $75 before the show, and M&Gs after for purchases of $45 in merchandise.

    I’m curious, does P2 do paid M&G’s or does he just go out & mingle afterwards?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    Sony/RCA is releasing “Cuckoo” as the next single from Trespassing in Finland and it’s out on radio. I wonder how much of a push this single will get. It would make sense since he has a concert 3/22 but according to Finns the show is nearly sold out.(cap. 13,000) so this is weird. I thought Trespassing era was done.

    http://m.fans.sonymusicemail.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=475ea03eca99a11430

  • mmb

    The Trespassing era is done in most places, but there are a few places where Adam is doing concerts where Cuckoo is getting some radio play.  This is similar to the FYE era, where certain markets continued to get singles after they were done releasing singles in the US.  There won’t be much of a push other than in connection with his concerts; Adam never did any promo for the extra singles FYE era, and he is unlikely to do so with the extra Trespassing era singles (other than in connection with his concerts). 

  • jpfan2

    I’m curious, does P2 do paid M&G’s or does he just go out & mingle afterwards?
     
    I’m no expert but as far as I can tell P2 doesn’t make fans pay for M&Gs? He seems to mostly do college shows and that’s not an audience that can pay for a M&G.
    His other gigs are openers for MB20 and again I see no signs of M&Gs. But I only follow P2 on twitter.
     
    Other bigger fans may know more about this.

  • TheOther

    Considering that AI11 plunged in the ratings, Phillip is more than holding his own against other winners who came off much more popular seasons with larger fan bases.  He’s getting radio airplay a lot quicker with Gone, Gone, Gone. Sure, the popularity of Home helps, but that hasn’t also been the scenario with others who had a big first single. And The World From The Side Of The Moon is doing very well. And that also hasn’t been the case with others who had big singles (i.e., Carly Rae Jepsen).

    Phillip is moving in the right direction.

  • jpfan2

    Idols can have very successful eras with the debut albums and then fall off a cliff with album #2. But so far GGG is going in the right direction on radio. So overall P2 is in a fairly good place career wise.

    Early days but I don’t see some cute, talented guy this season that’s going to steal P2′s Idol fans. ;0

  • TheOther

    Of course, the future is TBD. The same applies to anyone who hasn’t put out a 2nd CD, not just Phillip.   Just pointing out that Phillip is moving in the right direction, considering that at almost each step along the way, he had been predicted to fall off the cliff.

  • mmb

    Why can’t we, as fans, just live in the moment?  There seems to always be some sort of need on the part of both Idol fans and detractors to look beyond what is currently happening?  P2 has a monster hit!  Awesome!  Good for him!  Maybe the next will be an equally big hit, maybe it won’t. Won’t take anything away from the success that is Home.  His album is doing great.  Good for him!  Maybe his next one will do as well, or better, or flop?  Why even think about that now?  It doesn’t impact what is happening now.  It seems like there is always a need to dampen current success with “concern” re: future failure, as well as a need to completely ignore/discount past success if/when the next project doesn’t do as well.  IMO in the music business any large scale success is cause for celebration, even if short lived.  Most artists will never achieve those heights

  • Aavari

    At the moment, P2 is doing very, very well. All his career
    vital signs are very healthy. None of these things are accurate barometers
    of the future, but right now? The boy is golden. His fans must be so happy; I’m
    happy for them.

  • jpfan2

    I’m a big supporter of P2 and not a concern troll. ;0 Just as someone who’s followed Idols for awhile, I try to keep it realistic.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Yes but usually it’s to the same 1,000 fans! P2 is actually playing to different people every night. ;0 I mean his college shows seem full of actual college students.

    I’m kidding but only a little. Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of dedicated fans that turn going into Idol shows into a full time career.

    You have no way of knowing any of this. There could very easily be a group of fans following P2 around to different cities, especially on the more established tour where he is opening with Matchbox 20. I guarantee you there is a group of hard core Matchbox 20 fans doing this very thing.

    Also, many of the past Idols have played to way more than 1,000 people a night. The majority of the audience in these a venues that held 3,000-4,000 people were locals who were seeing the particular concert for the first time. The fact that there were a few repeat concert attendees present, doesn’t make any difference. There were still 4,000 tickets sold and a ton of merchandise sold at these bigger venues.

    P2′s 1,000 seat sell-out isn’t any more “special” than the sell-outs over the years from Kelly, Carrie, Clay, Daughtry, Taylor, Archie, Cook, Adam, Kris, or Scotty coming directly off of their seasons of Idol.

    Also, every artist, who has an established fan base, has a group of hard-core fans. Nikki, Mariah, Britney, Bruno, Katy, Gaga, Maroon 5, Mumford and Sons, etc, they all have a dedicated base that attends multiple concerts and helps to promote them in different ways. P2 should hope that he ends up with some dedicated fans from his AI days and especially in other countries outside of the US. An established fan base can make a difference two, three or five years down the line.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    double post

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Early days but I don’t see some cute, talented guy this season that’s going to steal P2′s Idol fans. ;0″

    I honestly don’t think that has been the main problem with previous Idols who have had commercially successful debut eras, but then have their popularity fall dramatically in their sophomore efforts. P2 is supposed to have a fair amount of commercial success after winning Idol and having been exposed to 15-20 million viewers every week for months. It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show. There are signs of that already happening with P2, but the same could have been said of numerous other Idols, only to have those speculations proven incorrect during their subsequent CD releases.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Why can’t we, as fans, just live in the moment?  There seems to always be some sort of need on the part of both Idol fans and detractors to look beyond what is currently happening?”

    I agree. I think that the problems arise when fans and detractors try to make firm statements about the future success/lack of success of Idols based on the status of their careers a few months off the show and their debut album eras. There’s also the annoying behavior of fans claiming that the commercial success of their special snowflake proves that those who are not fans of said snowflake are “wrong”. Why should anyone change their opinion of any artist/singer based on commercial success? People have individual tastes and personally, I have no desire to change my opinion based on the fact that artists who I dislike have a lot of commercial success.

  • http://twitter.com/bilolobi Namarinad

    i wish Phillip Phillips success in his career and hope he continues to prove all the haters wrong wrong and wrong lol
    He’s writing now and i think if he does an album as good as TWFTSOTM he’ll succeed

  • mmb

    I guess my point is that I don’t think that Idol alums — be they P2 or David Cook or Jordin Sparks or Adam Lambert or Scotty McCreery or Clay Aiken or Daughtry or whoever — get enough credit for actually having success right off the show.  I don’t think in this day and age we CAN say that they are “supposed” to have success right off the show.  We have seen that it really isn’t all that easy — it isn’t the norm to come off a reality tv show and have a hit single, a hit album, sell concert tickets etc.  No one from the Voice has done it; no one from US X Factor has done it; only the little girl from AGT has done it. And a lot of major label Idol alums weren’t able to do it (e.g. Lee, Haley, Pia, Allison, Crystal to name a few recent examples). And I think its unfair to essentially wipe out those hits/sales/successes when they don’t continue into a 2d or 3rd era.  Most artists never even have a 1 hit era.  And while they may not be Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood sized mega-careers, most of the Idol alums who were at one time or another signed to a major label (and some that never were) have independent careers beyond the show in the entertainment industry. 

  • durbesque

    Kris had about 20 unsold tickets in State College a couple of years ago.  That clearly showed his limit.  P2 has sold out 1,016 at the Pullo 3 months in advance.  This keeps his limit a mystery, unless there is some scientific method for determining such things.

  • mmb

    You can’t tell an artists’ ticket selling capabilities from just one concert at one venue…you need to look at how and where they sell over a period of time…there are always outliers at both the high and low ends of the spectrum…concerts at college campuses are different than concerts in big cities; concerts in big cities are different than concerts in smaller towns and so on and so forth

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Archie, Cook and Adam were selling out venues several months ahead that were double or triple the size of 1,000 seats. From what I uderstand, Durbin, as a fourth place finisher, was selling out venues last year the same size as the Pullo center. What’s your point?

  • TheOther

    P2 is supposed to have a fair amount of commercial success after winning Idol and having been exposed to 15-20 million viewers every week for months.

    Except that he was the guy that critics constantly went after as having worse sales than Lee Dewyze. 

    It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show.

    But that applies to others as well, like Scotty McCreery where it has often been noted that his music isn’t even played on Country radio.   At this point, Phillip seems to be on the right track, moving in the right direction.  His music is being picked up on radio - certainly not a bad thing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “But that applies to others as well, like Scotty McCreery where it has often been noted that his music isn’t even played on Country radio.   At this point, Phillip seems to be on the right track, moving in the right direction., to expand his fan base.  His music is being picked up on radio - certainly not a bad thing.

    Yes, it applies to others as I wrote in my post and which you edited out:” It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show. There are signs of that already happening with P2, but the same could have been said of numerous other Idols, only to have those speculations proven incorrect during their subsequent CD releases.“So, essentially, I said the same thing that you have written.

  • TheOther

    But all these people came from much more popular seasons with much larger viewership.  That needs to be considered.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” And I think its unfair to essentially wipe out those hits/sales/successes when they don’t continue into a 2d or 3rd era.”

    I agree, and I’m simply talking about Idols establishing themselves beyond the show. Nothing can take away any success, commercial and/or critical that any artist achieves.

  • standtotheright

    I’m kidding but only a little. Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of dedicated fans that turn going into Idol shows into a full time career.They’re usually found in the front row of the Idol’s concert. Same faces, different cities.

    While I’m ready to agree that some AI fans tend to ignore concert norms at shows more than core fans of other artists at their shows, I also agree that there are relatively few of them at most given shows.

    The reason that the “follower fan” meme seemed to be more prominent in earlier years is twofold: The Sony artists had websites and forums where core fans would congregate and discuss their show experiences more publicly, and there was much more awareness and traffic to the VFTW/IT/etc sites where the posters were discussing, if not outright tracking, traveling AI fans while pretending that it was somehow less weird and creepy than the actual fans’ behavior towards the artists.

    P2′s website doesn’t have a forum; he has a label-approved Twitter hashtag, which, unintentionally queasy-sounding as it is (philatics? really?) seems to have helped fans congregate on Twitter where their traffic “falls off” the internet record. And instead of an active anti-AI-fan-crowd, sites like VFTW and IT have shuttered either for lack of traffic or because of liability concerns. So core fan followers are less likely to be visible to casual fans or to the media.

    So there’s really no way to know that P2 has more or fewer dedicated fan followers than anyone else. It’s also not likely to be the key factor in his sophomore album’s success at radio.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Why? Season 10 had less viewers than season nine, but the the summer tour and the contestants from season 10 did far better than those from season nine. Season 11 had far fewer viewers than season 8, but the winner of season 11 sold twice as many albums as the winner of season 8. The viewership meme doesn’t hold up in these cases and it doesn’t hold up across the last 11 seasons of Idol.

  • jpfan2

    It’s true that P2 could have as many fans going to all his shows as other past Idols. I think he doesn’t because his college shows sell tickets to students first and tend to sell out. When P2 opens his shows to the general audience, he may get the fans that go to multiple shows.Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ;0

  • MellyPer1692

    Please, I’ve seen on twitter people going to multiple P2 shows. He’s playing some of the same venues that other idols have played.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, EVERY artist has a very small number of people who go to multiple shows. The difference here though is the kind of obsessive need to make fun of Idol fans who do it, lol.

    Phillips career will be interesting to watch. Cook did a college tour right after Idol and sold out most of those dates if not all. Didnt make much difference for the second album sales.

  • suenigma

    “It’s true that P2 could have as many fans going to all his shows as other past Idols. I think he doesn’t because his college shows sell tickets to students first and tend to sell out. ”

    As Melly already pointed out, this was the same strategy employed by Cook’s management. Start with a small college tour, sell to students first and then open up to the public. I remember a fair number of uberfans feeling slighted that they couldn’t get tickets. A tiny handful of stealth fans always found a way though.;)

  • girlygirltoo

    I think it’s likely that Phillip has a group of fans who attend many of his shows, just like pretty much every Idol has. I don’t like it when those fans are made fun of, because they are the ones who tend to stick around after the 1st album era. And most of these fans do not act in an inappropriate or embarrassing way, so why should their support be put down?

    However, I also think that by selling out a lot of the college shows he is doing, it shows that he also has the support of a lot of people who likely do not have the time or the money to follow him from show to show, since, hey, they are in college :) Whether these young fans will continue to support him a couple of years down the line, when they are out of school and may have different priorities and/or interests? Still TBD. But I do think his label/management are very smart in sending him on a college tour, because that is the best way (IMO) to build a core group of younger fans.

  • Incipit

    P2′s website doesn’t have a forum; he has a label-approved Twitter hashtag, which, unintentionally queasy-sounding as it is (philatics? really?) seems to have helped fans congregate on Twitter where their traffic “falls off” the internet record. 

    I hadn’t visited, didn’t know that Phillip’s website didn’t have a forum, is this normal for Interscope artists? Does Scotty have a forum on his site? …I wonder how this will affect the AI fans’ tendency to want to archive in more detail than the labels ever do, concert experiences, interviews, appearances, number data, and fan videos of the sets, etc. do they have somewhere else, like an unofficial fan site, to keep their history?

  • standtotheright

     

    I wonder how this will affect the AI fans’ tendency to want to archive
    in more detail than the labels ever do, concert experiences, interviews,
    appearances, number data, and fan videos of the sets,

    I don’t think it’s so much about Interscope as it is about new bands. Social media seems to have substituted for forums for most new bands out there (probably from some combination of cost-saving [hosting forums costs the label] and convenience [a forumless website makes for one less login for fans who already use social media]). If fans want to archive things, they can set up fan Tumblr pages or other microblogs. But honestly, I’m willing to bet that a lot of things that fans claim they want to see archived get very minimal traffic just a few months after the initial post. I don’t think P2 is missing out because of that.

    I suspect that forums outside of official, membership-financed fan clubs are steadily going to dwindle over time.