Idol Headlines for 2/21/13

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Tonight on American Idol, 10 guys take the stage at the Love theater at the Mirage in Las Vegas. Five will be sent home by the judges. Tune in at 8/7c PM on FOX

Appearances:

Carrie Underwood performs at Spokane Arena in Spokane, WA.
Constantine Maroulis performs in Jekyll & Hyde the Musical at the Pantages Theatre in Los Angeles, CA.
Taylor Hicks performs at Paris Casino in Las Vegas, NV.
Mandisa performs at the 3 in 1 Tour in Pensacola, FL.
Kris Allen performs at Soiled Dove Underground in Denver, CO.
Adam Lambert performs at Shibuya Kokaido in Tokyo, Japan.
Scotty McCreery performs at STAGE AE in Pittsburgh, PA.
Phillip Phillips performs at the Colosseum at Caesars Palace in Windsor, Canada.
Colton Dixon performs at the Patriot Center in Fairfax, VA.

Keith Urban And Randy Jackson On Surviving The Nicki/Mariah “American Idol” Firestorm – ABV: On the flip side, what has it been like for both of you to be witnesses to the Nicki/Mariah kerfluffles that the show itself has played up in several episodes?  KU: The thing is for me, there’s a learning curve in everything. There was a learning curve in our “dance troupe.” We got thrown on a dance floor, and with no choreography, and they just said, “Dance together! And don’t step on toes!” It’s, like, insane! That’s the best way I can put it. That shit really happened. We had to figure stuff out. We had to do it on the job. We did it. We worked through it. The girls are pros. Here we are. RJ: And little do people know, little do they realize, every panel has had its adjustment period. I think Paula and Simon fought the whole time. There were icy [periods]; they weren’t speaking for weeks. (laughs) Simon and I had… – Read more at Buzzfeed

Phillip Phillips Talks Matchbox Twenty Tour &”Gone Gone Gone”

Kris Allen: Total Request Idol – “In coming up with the set, you just want the fans, especially nowadays, you want them to have a reason to come to shows,” Allen explained during my interview with him last week prior to performing to a sold-out crowd later that evening at Café du Nord in San Francisco, CA. “People aren’t coming to shows like they used to and that’s okay, I get it, but I think that’s just another reason for them to come every night and see if I’m going to do their song, possibly. It keeps us on our toes too, which is really good, because we could … [do] the same thing every night, which is cool and a lot of people do that, but … it helps us get warmed up before the shows too. We get to play and kind of sing a little bit, so it’s good.” – Read more at Blogcritics

‘American Idol’ winner Scotty McCreery talks about stardom and his Atlantic City solo debut – Do you have aspirations of expanding your empire beyond the music industry? McCreery: I think for right now, I need to focus on my music and make sure all is going well there first. If I end up having this career for the rest of my life, like I want, then things will go as I want them too. But who knows what can come down the road in the future. If we get offered something, we might jump on it and take an acting role or something, but for right now it’s just music. But I’ve been in a play and musical before in high school, so I did a little acting there. – Read more at NJ.Com

Scotty McCreery’s booked solid – “College ain’t no joke,” he laughed. “I’m taking a full course load. It’s 13 hours. It’s Monday through Wednesday, and then we tour Thursday through Sunday.” The schedule, McCreery acknowledged, makes for a lot of long days and occasionally having to do homework on the bus. That’s what he said he was supposed to do, anyway, but he acknowledged it’s sometimes hard to make it happen. “It’s all time management,” he said. “I have to get that down, and once I get into a rhythm, it will all go smoothly.” – Read more at WVGazette.com

Scotty McCreery Host Keep the Music Playing All Stars Concert

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Mindy McCready Connection To Carrie Underwood — EXCLUSIVE – RumorFix has learned exclusively that Mindy’s last song, “I’ll See You Yesterday,” was initially intended for the American Idol winner. Songwriter Courtney Dashe tells RumorFix, “Carrie had the song ‘on hold,’ which means she liked it and was thinking about recording it.” Then the songwriter met Mindy at a writer’s night in Nashville a few years ago. Courtney shares, “After the show, she came up to me with tears running down her face. She said something to the effect of, ‘Your song, ‘I’ll See You Yesterday,’ I have to record that song. That’s about my life … what’s going on with that song? I have to record it.’” – Read more at Rumor Fix

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Mariah Carey on ‘Idol’ Contestants and Anniversary Plans

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  • jpfan2

    I’m a big supporter of P2 and not a concern troll. ;0 Just as someone who’s followed Idols for awhile, I try to keep it realistic.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Yes but usually it’s to the same 1,000 fans! P2 is actually playing to different people every night. ;0 I mean his college shows seem full of actual college students.

    I’m kidding but only a little. Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of dedicated fans that turn going into Idol shows into a full time career.

    You have no way of knowing any of this. There could very easily be a group of fans following P2 around to different cities, especially on the more established tour where he is opening with Matchbox 20. I guarantee you there is a group of hard core Matchbox 20 fans doing this very thing.

    Also, many of the past Idols have played to way more than 1,000 people a night. The majority of the audience in these a venues that held 3,000-4,000 people were locals who were seeing the particular concert for the first time. The fact that there were a few repeat concert attendees present, doesn’t make any difference. There were still 4,000 tickets sold and a ton of merchandise sold at these bigger venues.

    P2′s 1,000 seat sell-out isn’t any more “special” than the sell-outs over the years from Kelly, Carrie, Clay, Daughtry, Taylor, Archie, Cook, Adam, Kris, or Scotty coming directly off of their seasons of Idol.

    Also, every artist, who has an established fan base, has a group of hard-core fans. Nikki, Mariah, Britney, Bruno, Katy, Gaga, Maroon 5, Mumford and Sons, etc, they all have a dedicated base that attends multiple concerts and helps to promote them in different ways. P2 should hope that he ends up with some dedicated fans from his AI days and especially in other countries outside of the US. An established fan base can make a difference two, three or five years down the line.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    double post

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Early days but I don’t see some cute, talented guy this season that’s going to steal P2′s Idol fans. ;0″

    I honestly don’t think that has been the main problem with previous Idols who have had commercially successful debut eras, but then have their popularity fall dramatically in their sophomore efforts. P2 is supposed to have a fair amount of commercial success after winning Idol and having been exposed to 15-20 million viewers every week for months. It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show. There are signs of that already happening with P2, but the same could have been said of numerous other Idols, only to have those speculations proven incorrect during their subsequent CD releases.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Why can’t we, as fans, just live in the moment?  There seems to always be some sort of need on the part of both Idol fans and detractors to look beyond what is currently happening?”

    I agree. I think that the problems arise when fans and detractors try to make firm statements about the future success/lack of success of Idols based on the status of their careers a few months off the show and their debut album eras. There’s also the annoying behavior of fans claiming that the commercial success of their special snowflake proves that those who are not fans of said snowflake are “wrong”. Why should anyone change their opinion of any artist/singer based on commercial success? People have individual tastes and personally, I have no desire to change my opinion based on the fact that artists who I dislike have a lot of commercial success.

  • http://twitter.com/bilolobi Namarinad

    i wish Phillip Phillips success in his career and hope he continues to prove all the haters wrong wrong and wrong lol
    He’s writing now and i think if he does an album as good as TWFTSOTM he’ll succeed

  • mmb

    I guess my point is that I don’t think that Idol alums — be they P2 or David Cook or Jordin Sparks or Adam Lambert or Scotty McCreery or Clay Aiken or Daughtry or whoever — get enough credit for actually having success right off the show.  I don’t think in this day and age we CAN say that they are “supposed” to have success right off the show.  We have seen that it really isn’t all that easy — it isn’t the norm to come off a reality tv show and have a hit single, a hit album, sell concert tickets etc.  No one from the Voice has done it; no one from US X Factor has done it; only the little girl from AGT has done it. And a lot of major label Idol alums weren’t able to do it (e.g. Lee, Haley, Pia, Allison, Crystal to name a few recent examples). And I think its unfair to essentially wipe out those hits/sales/successes when they don’t continue into a 2d or 3rd era.  Most artists never even have a 1 hit era.  And while they may not be Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood sized mega-careers, most of the Idol alums who were at one time or another signed to a major label (and some that never were) have independent careers beyond the show in the entertainment industry. 

  • durbesque

    Kris had about 20 unsold tickets in State College a couple of years ago.  That clearly showed his limit.  P2 has sold out 1,016 at the Pullo 3 months in advance.  This keeps his limit a mystery, unless there is some scientific method for determining such things.

  • mmb

    You can’t tell an artists’ ticket selling capabilities from just one concert at one venue…you need to look at how and where they sell over a period of time…there are always outliers at both the high and low ends of the spectrum…concerts at college campuses are different than concerts in big cities; concerts in big cities are different than concerts in smaller towns and so on and so forth

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Archie, Cook and Adam were selling out venues several months ahead that were double or triple the size of 1,000 seats. From what I uderstand, Durbin, as a fourth place finisher, was selling out venues last year the same size as the Pullo center. What’s your point?

  • TheOther

    P2 is supposed to have a fair amount of commercial success after winning Idol and having been exposed to 15-20 million viewers every week for months.

    Except that he was the guy that critics constantly went after as having worse sales than Lee Dewyze. 

    It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show.

    But that applies to others as well, like Scotty McCreery where it has often been noted that his music isn’t even played on Country radio.   At this point, Phillip seems to be on the right track, moving in the right direction.  His music is being picked up on radio - certainly not a bad thing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “But that applies to others as well, like Scotty McCreery where it has often been noted that his music isn’t even played on Country radio.   At this point, Phillip seems to be on the right track, moving in the right direction., to expand his fan base.  His music is being picked up on radio - certainly not a bad thing.”

    Yes, it applies to others as I wrote in my post and which you edited out:” It remains to be seen if he can transcend Idol and establish an independent career beyond the show. There are signs of that already happening with P2, but the same could have been said of numerous other Idols, only to have those speculations proven incorrect during their subsequent CD releases.“So, essentially, I said the same thing that you have written.

  • TheOther

    But all these people came from much more popular seasons with much larger viewership.  That needs to be considered.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “ And I think its unfair to essentially wipe out those hits/sales/successes when they don’t continue into a 2d or 3rd era.”

    I agree, and I’m simply talking about Idols establishing themselves beyond the show. Nothing can take away any success, commercial and/or critical that any artist achieves.

  • standtotheright

    I’m kidding but only a little. Phillip does seem somewhat free of the caravan of dedicated fans that turn going into Idol shows into a full time career.They’re usually found in the front row of the Idol’s concert. Same faces, different cities.

    While I’m ready to agree that some AI fans tend to ignore concert norms at shows more than core fans of other artists at their shows, I also agree that there are relatively few of them at most given shows.

    The reason that the “follower fan” meme seemed to be more prominent in earlier years is twofold: The Sony artists had websites and forums where core fans would congregate and discuss their show experiences more publicly, and there was much more awareness and traffic to the VFTW/IT/etc sites where the posters were discussing, if not outright tracking, traveling AI fans while pretending that it was somehow less weird and creepy than the actual fans’ behavior towards the artists.

    P2′s website doesn’t have a forum; he has a label-approved Twitter hashtag, which, unintentionally queasy-sounding as it is (philatics? really?) seems to have helped fans congregate on Twitter where their traffic “falls off” the internet record. And instead of an active anti-AI-fan-crowd, sites like VFTW and IT have shuttered either for lack of traffic or because of liability concerns. So core fan followers are less likely to be visible to casual fans or to the media.

    So there’s really no way to know that P2 has more or fewer dedicated fan followers than anyone else. It’s also not likely to be the key factor in his sophomore album’s success at radio.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Why? Season 10 had less viewers than season nine, but the the summer tour and the contestants from season 10 did far better than those from season nine. Season 11 had far fewer viewers than season 8, but the winner of season 11 sold twice as many albums as the winner of season 8. The viewership meme doesn’t hold up in these cases and it doesn’t hold up across the last 11 seasons of Idol.

  • jpfan2

    It’s true that P2 could have as many fans going to all his shows as other past Idols. I think he doesn’t because his college shows sell tickets to students first and tend to sell out. When P2 opens his shows to the general audience, he may get the fans that go to multiple shows.Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ;0

  • MellyPer1692

    Please, I’ve seen on twitter people going to multiple P2 shows. He’s playing some of the same venues that other idols have played.

  • MellyPer1692

    Lol, EVERY artist has a very small number of people who go to multiple shows. The difference here though is the kind of obsessive need to make fun of Idol fans who do it, lol.

    Phillips career will be interesting to watch. Cook did a college tour right after Idol and sold out most of those dates if not all. Didnt make much difference for the second album sales.

  • suenigma

    “It’s true that P2 could have as many fans going to all his shows as other past Idols. I think he doesn’t because his college shows sell tickets to students first and tend to sell out. ”

    As Melly already pointed out, this was the same strategy employed by Cook’s management. Start with a small college tour, sell to students first and then open up to the public. I remember a fair number of uberfans feeling slighted that they couldn’t get tickets. A tiny handful of stealth fans always found a way though.;)

  • girlygirltoo

    I think it’s likely that Phillip has a group of fans who attend many of his shows, just like pretty much every Idol has. I don’t like it when those fans are made fun of, because they are the ones who tend to stick around after the 1st album era. And most of these fans do not act in an inappropriate or embarrassing way, so why should their support be put down?

    However, I also think that by selling out a lot of the college shows he is doing, it shows that he also has the support of a lot of people who likely do not have the time or the money to follow him from show to show, since, hey, they are in college :) Whether these young fans will continue to support him a couple of years down the line, when they are out of school and may have different priorities and/or interests? Still TBD. But I do think his label/management are very smart in sending him on a college tour, because that is the best way (IMO) to build a core group of younger fans.

  • Incipit

    P2′s website doesn’t have a forum; he has a label-approved Twitter hashtag, which, unintentionally queasy-sounding as it is (philatics? really?) seems to have helped fans congregate on Twitter where their traffic “falls off” the internet record. 

    I hadn’t visited, didn’t know that Phillip’s website didn’t have a forum, is this normal for Interscope artists? Does Scotty have a forum on his site? …I wonder how this will affect the AI fans’ tendency to want to archive in more detail than the labels ever do, concert experiences, interviews, appearances, number data, and fan videos of the sets, etc. do they have somewhere else, like an unofficial fan site, to keep their history?

  • standtotheright

     

    I wonder how this will affect the AI fans’ tendency to want to archive
    in more detail than the labels ever do, concert experiences, interviews,
    appearances, number data, and fan videos of the sets,

    I don’t think it’s so much about Interscope as it is about new bands. Social media seems to have substituted for forums for most new bands out there (probably from some combination of cost-saving [hosting forums costs the label] and convenience [a forumless website makes for one less login for fans who already use social media]). If fans want to archive things, they can set up fan Tumblr pages or other microblogs. But honestly, I’m willing to bet that a lot of things that fans claim they want to see archived get very minimal traffic just a few months after the initial post. I don’t think P2 is missing out because of that.

    I suspect that forums outside of official, membership-financed fan clubs are steadily going to dwindle over time.

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