Idol Headlines for 04/15/12

American Idol Hopeful Jessica Sanchez Exemplifies Why Star Candidates Don’t Get Hired – Some people were surprised at Jessica Sanchez’s near-elimination from Fox’s hit show, American Idol, but I sadly was not. Don’t get me wrong – I’m an admirer of her singing ability, and as a fellow Filipina-American, there is an immediate affinity. But having hired thousands of people over 15 years of recruiting, I’ve seen many times when the star candidate or obvious frontrunner falls short in the interview process. From what I’ve seen on Idol this season, Jessica made three key mistakes a lot of star candidates make that cost them the offer and may cost Jessica the win: – Read more at Forbes

Simon Cowell: I had a crush on her, Dannii’s hair, sexy clothes and the t**s. It was genuine love – SIMON Cowell had a sensational secret affair with X Factor judge Dannii Minogue, The Sun can reveal. The TV mogul, 52, confessed they were lovers when they worked on the show. He admitted: “I had a crush. It was genuine love.” And he reveals he lusted after Cheryl Cole and wanted to bed her, too, when his feelings for Dannii cooled. – Read more at The Sun

Simon Cowell: I wanted Cheryl Cole affair – SMITTEN Simon Cowell told friends he was “mesmerised” by Cheryl Cole — and was desperate to get her into his bed. The crestfallen TV mogul, who likened her to Princess Di, sighed after their dramatic public split: “I would have liked an affair with Cheryl.”
But he didn’t even manage a kiss and cuddle, and admitted: “I felt like a mouse being played with by a beautiful cat.” Acclaimed author Tom Bower reveals in his new book that Cowell fell under Cheryl’s spell during her frequent visits to his dressing room in their three years together as judges on X Factor. – Read more at The Sun

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    ROFL these Simon articles… I’m ready for X-Factor US and UK to crash and burn and watch his ego deflate into crumbs.

  • Chris

    That Forbes article on Jessica was well written. Idol voting is more complicated than that because she can do all 3 things and still not win, but it may have saved her from the bottom 1.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Mitchell/515077335 Eric Mitchell

    The Forbes article makes perfect sense when comparing to American Idol. It’s not 100% the reason why some talented people go early but when considering that Danny was a better singer then Kris or Katherine was better then Taylor it makes sense to compare their personalities since Danny was kind of a douche and Katherine was boring compared to Kris’ guy next door attitude and Taylor’s crazy and fun attitude.

    It totally shows in Jessica’s appearance and Pia last season. They are great singers but aren’t great personalities.

  • Anonymous

    Not searing much outrage outside the bubble for Jessica’s almost elimination.

  • iFoundIt

    Underestimating the importance of likeability. When I saw that playful segment of Joshua and Holly, with Jessica sitting to the side, I started to panic for her. She’s already so quiet, with almost no backstory (what, no cute pets? No life crisis to share?), the segment just reiterated how little rapport she generates outside of her singing. …… Whatever the judges say about Holly, she can sing. She’s the lesser qualified but still qualified more likeable candidate.

    In addition to the writer’s comments that Jessica picked a weak song and that she has a tendency of performing for the judges rather than the public, the above comment is spot on.

  • Anonymous

    This is pretty cool. Australian show “project dance” troupe dancing to Adams “down the rabbit hole”

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4roV9DeK6_U%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&feature=youtu.be&v=4roV9DeK6_U&gl=US

  • Anonymous

    Oh Simon just Yuck!!!!! It’s bad enough to be a lech but you don’t have to go and talk about it.

  • tinawina

    There is outrage, it depends on where you look.

    That was a good article, but basically what it is saying is “play to the Idol audience”. The problem is the rock and country loving conservative leaning idol audience is not really where Jessica needs to be. Rather than singing songs for them, I think she should probably keep playing to the urban charts, which is where her heart is and where she will likely end up based if signed. Stuttering was a great choice to impress that crowd. If I were her I’d keep singing R&B and R&B crossover and turn up the swagger count. She has personality, it’s just not the traditional sweet, cute, wholesome Idol female personality and it’s time to let it out. She’s not likely to win anyway, so she should just play to her future audience and ignore he rest. LOL

  • Anonymous

    I doubt Simon talks to the Sun or any other London tabloid that prints stories about him. He’s just an easy target for them.

  • Anonymous

    Oh whatever, even if she was the most likable person in the world she would never win this show, not with this voting demo. The truth is they favor “cute” white guys and contestants who sing rock or country music. That’s who they “connect” to. Joshua is pretty likable, why was he in the bottom?

    ETA: Tinawina I just read your comment. ITA, it’s exactly what I was thinking.

    Anyway, moving on, Lauren missed her prom yesterday so she invited a guy from the audience at her show to come up and dance with her. Here’s the video, it’s so cute:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ooLhtry9as&feature=player_embedded

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the Forbes article that contestants are much better served if they pick a beloved and familiar song.  Stuttering does not qualify as one of those songs.  In addition as someone who has a dear friend who is inflicted with a big stuttering problem that has caused great harm to his self-esteem, I felt it to be an insensitive choice.  I love Jessica and plan to vote for her like crazy, but she needs to play the game smarter.

  • Anonymous

    nvm

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I came here too late. You already said everything I was going to say, lol

  • tinawina

    I think we could get a pop winner in the future, but not in a Katy Perry way, but in a One Direction way. Cute, wholesome teen pop could win this show. Or pop rock, or pop country. But not much else, I don’t think.

    I’ll reserve judgement on the girl winner. Maybe Skylar could pull it off this year or Hollie could make a huge comeback. Okay, probably not. LMAO.

    Keep hope alive!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think there is, because people don’t care. Most people’s lives don’t revolve around this show and the contestants on it. 

  • Tess

    American Idol Hopeful Jessica Sanchez Exemplifies Why Star Candidates Don’t Get Hired

    Here is someone who understands interviewing (auditioning) as an insider and they are saying almost word for word what many in the blogosphere have been saying for months….singing is not totally about singing.

    And I agree 100% about needing to “play” to your audience and I’ll expand that thought even further and say that is why “modern” themes don’t do as much for the contestant as does pulling out the over-sung moth eaten songs of yester-year.  The Idol audience has scores of imperfections but it is the audience these kids are playing to…and I don’t think that means not doing r&b or soul or jazz, but if you choose those elements do something that the audience can identify with.  I, personally, don’t think the idol audience is as country loving conservative as some people think (heavens…that is so anti everything Adam Lambert was).  

    As much as these kids “think” they know a-lot, unless they have really studied their audience over the history of the show they really don’t know much.  As hard of a pill as it is to swallow…this “audition” isn’t about “you” as a future “star”…it is about “playing” to the masses that are the audience.  Stroking your own ego and not coloring within the lines only leads to failure, at least during this part of the fame game.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick kesia monteith

    From the Forbes article in the comments section:

    AEvangelista 10 hours ago
    “I’m Filipino-American. I agree with Caroline. I’ve blogged Idol for many years, and I’ve always said the black singers need to sing white. R&B doesn’t work very well on Idol. Jessica must have black blood (negrito) because she has sung a lot of black girl songs. She needs to whiten up.”

    UNBELIEVABLE! Woman should be ashamed of her damn self. If I ever come on American Idol, I would not compromise myself and my singing style to make other people feel comfortable around me. And what the hell does singing “white” even mean? If Colton comes on BET’s Sunday’s Best, which focus on mostly faith-based singing, how would people feel if Colton was asked to sing more “black”? What does singing “black” means, either?

  • Anonymous

     I would love if Skylar wins because I think she’s great, but I’m not holding my breath.
    If I learned anything after those years as a Idol watcher, was to never understimate the power of a playd shirt, lol.

  • Anonymous

    Thing is, personality and promotion are what sells music in 2012, not talent.  Just look at the top of the charts. It’s sparse in the talent dept and heavy on the image and autotune department. Because of that, Jessica won’t win because she has the personality of a dead fish.  

    Similarly, personality does play a HUGE part in winning Idol as well, but also the ability to sing on key is critical.  In the comparison you brought up, Kat lost idol not only because she was boring, but because Taylor was consistently better in song presentation and delivery. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I get embarrassed every time I read Jessica sounds like Beyonce and can be a star just like Beyonce. I just remember, besides singing, the 100 qualities that Beyonce has and Jessica probably will never have (and I’m not even talking about the physicals qualities). This article tells a lot about Jessica Sanchezzzzz.

  • Anonymous

    “the writer’s comments that Jessica picked a weak song”

    I think it’s a great song.

    Seems to me that what his comment really says is that most powervoters in the Idol audience are so boring and limited in their ability to appreciate things that are new and interesting that they only “like” songs that they’ve already heard a million times. (Not that this surprises me; it’s perfectly clear. But, of course, power voters don’t equal music lovers. We’ve always known that) Her mistake was not in picking a “weak” song. It was in picking a song that didn’t go to the lowest common denominator. That’s a problem if you want to win this power-voting show. Not necessarily a problem if you want a career in music, however.

    And a lot of the bosses who didn’t hire the top candidate because they were swayed by their own nearisghted judgments about who was ‘fun’ and ‘likeable’ might have seen their companies do better had they hired one of those top candidates who promoted a new, different and subtle idea (read: the song Jessica sang) rather than the people who presented hackneyed, lackluster, thoughtless presentations of ideas that the boss was already comfortable with.

    This Forbes idiot seems to think that your company thrives by hiring people who don’t think outside the box and whose main good attribute is looking “likeable” — read “nonthreatening” —  to the powers that be. That might be the way to make saggy-ass old bosses feel comfortable, but it’s probably not the way to have an innovative, forward-moving business. Seems to me he’s just presenting poor excuses for bad hiring decisions.

  • Anonymous

    LOL Kesia, I can’t even formulate a response to that quote.  What goes through someone’s mind before they type the words “whiten up”?  I also had to look up what “negrito” meant.  I had never heard that term before. (Seriously, I went to college and everything :).  I felt stupid when I learned that it was the name of an actual people.  I must have been absent that day!).

    Now I’m wondering where this woman’s blog is, so I can find more of her crazy theories.     

  • Anonymous

    The problem is not with the audience as much as the voting system. It is entirely possible for 1000 people to vote twice for a Jessica and 2 people to vote 1500 times for a P2 and it comes out looking like P2 is not just more popular but hugely so. Idol must fix this and get over bragging on vote totals.

  • Axxxel

    Adam Lambert (runner up Season 8)  is a great example about being clever at playing the “likability card”… despite the eye-liner and the “bad guy” image that American Idol wanted to label him by setting him up against Danny Gokey and Kris Allen (Mr guy -next- door).

    His background story was not too interesting… Flamboyant theaterguy… It was not even clear that he came from a broken home because his divorced parents were interviewed together and sometimes even sat next to each other  in the audience .

    The only thing I found interesting about Adam Lambert is when he mentioned in his audition in front of the judges that the first artist that he saw performing live was “Paula Abdul”, so this American Idol stint felt like a “full circle moment”. And then he kissed the hands of the female judges and I was sold.

    However, he almost cried when Paula praised him after his “Black or White” performance.
    He kept on smiling even when Simon Cowell said that his “Ring of fire rendition” was horrendous.
    He was mentioned by his fellow Season 8 finalists as the “camp counsellor”.
    His backstage interviews are sometimes even more enjoyable than his musical performances.. And the Kradam (Kris Allen/Adam Lambert) bromance and Kradison (Kris/Adam/Allison Iraheta) chemistry also helps…

  • Anonymous

    tinawina, I completely agree with you.  What’s the highest a “save” recipient has every achieved?  3rd place?  4th place?  Jessica is not going to win this.  So, I don’t think she needs to be playing to win the Idol game anymore.  I co-sign that she needs to keep “playing to the urban charts”.  Court your desired demo Jessica.  Let the AI voters have the winner they want, and show your future audience what your likely R&B record is going to sound like.

    In the long run, I think Jessica will be more successful that way.  Jimmy is going to sign her, I have no doubt.  And, he’s going to let her record the R&B and R&B crossover songs that (I think) she wants to put out.  The label will promote her to urban, urban ac & pop.  In other words, I think Jessica can achieve the desired result of the AI game, without actually winning.  

    I believe Skylar will be the last girl standing anyway.  And, she too is going to get a record deal with a country label.  She might be able to Pickler her way into a nice little career.  I guess that’s the reason that even though I believe Skylar, Jessica, Holly & Elise are vastly more talented than the inevitable final 2 of Colton & Phillip – I’ll still be able to live with the result.  (And, enjoy watching these talented ladies for however long they last).

  • Anonymous

      That was a good article, but basically what it is saying is “play to the Idol audience”.

    My problem with that article is that it goes beyond simply “play to the idol audience” and becomes “do what the white people like”, which I guess is kind of the same thing. I’m just sick of white people demanding that minorities give up who they are and conform to white culture (just one example would be stop singing R&B, sing “artistic” music like rock).

  • Indigobunting

    “The Forbes article makes perfect sense when comparing to American Idol. It’s not 100% the reason why some talented people go early but when considering that Danny was a better singer then Kris or Katherine was better then Taylor it makes sense to compare their personalities since Danny was kind of a douche and Katherine was boring compared to Kris’ guy next door attitude and Taylor’s crazy and fun attitude.It totally shows in Jessica’s appearance and Pia last season. They are great singers but aren’t great personalities. ”

    As an employer, I agree with much of the article- there is no doubt that engaging, people-kind-of people get hired over others who may be more qualified.  Been there and done it ;)

    But I really disagree with the two examples you gave, lol.  Only in Idol-tard world was Danny Gokey considered a douche- he was a very popular contestant (and thus popular with the Idol producers)-all you have to do is look at his Idol comeback and great buying response on an early show  in a blah season to see that.  He went out in a hotly contested three way contest because he screwed up with Dream On (heck, he was popular enough to even skate by that week) and because he picked an old fashioned ballad top 3, as well as given the Paula song pick curse (Dance Little Sister, lol?  Who even heard of that.  And remember her prior picks for Elliot and Syesha?  She was a curse for the third placers…).

    And Katherine?  She was never a big challenge for Taylor and it was a shocker she passed Chris Daughtry by (the rock voters don’t seem quite as Idol crazy voters, IMO)-nothing to do with her personality, although I admit being engaging while you are singing is important.

  • Anonymous

    The thing with Jessica she is still younger than Beyonce or others topping the charts now are . If she gets signed which i am sure she will she will have people around her getting good songs and helping with her image which will get better with age anyway. 

  • Tess

    Thinking “outside the box” doesn’t mean not considering the box at all.  Why would I, as someone doing the hiring, choose a candidate who expressed their attributes in ways that had NOTHING to do with the job they were applying for and were of no use to my company…why would I want an excellent statistician to fill my vacancy when I wanted someone who could just bring sense to the numbers I was generating.

    Again…Jessica has chosen to compete on American Idol and in doing so she probably should have also made a conscious decision to approach her “audition” within the confines of what the audience tends to accept.  If Jessica’s intent (or Phil’s, Josh’s, etc.) is to audition for the peripheral world of record executives and star makers then let them color outside the lines…but if they really want to be the American Idol and use it as a stepping stone to promote their career they have to play the game.  

    I, for one, have no interest in contestants who are so ego driven that they don’t understand “I”, and millions more like me, are the ones making the decision about who goes on and who goes home.  Funny thing is, post Idol success hasn’t always been kind to those who didn’t play the game.

  • tinawina

    Adam sang a lot of rock and/or sang and dressed in a style very reminiscent of classic rockers. So yeah, he fits into the “rock and country” lean folks are speculating about.

    In any case, he sure wasn’t an R&B singer!

    And again, Jessica on her youtubes and whatnot is definitely a hardcore urban influenced type of girl, I’m not sure what the advantage is to play too an audience outside of who she is. At least not enough to win.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I get the whole “likeability” aspect and all that that you must have to win Idol, but I can’t stress enough how much it bothers me that a 16 year old female is deemed unlikeable for not doing anything unlikeable in particular, but for just being rather reserved and shy off stage.  She’s 16! I’m not saying Jessica needs to win Idol or anything, or that people don’t have the right to not like her, but how many teenagers are comfortable in their own skin at that age?  I imagine Jessica will come into her own eventually, but anybody expecting a radical personality transplant in the new few weeks will likely be disappointed.

    Also, I honestly didn’t entirely blame her for that package with Josh/Hollie–though I understand how it came off.  Josh/Hollie are besties and are seemingly joined at the hip.  Jessica is the youngest person remaining, and based on what Dre has said in interviews, he and Jessica often had different call times and etc. than the others, because they were minors and because they still had school everyday.  I honestly can understand if Jessica is a more reserved personality, that yes, she probably had a hard time inserting herself in between Josh/Hollie.  My take is not that Jessica doesn’t have Idol friends, but her closest friends were the ones closest to her own age that she went to school with and etc. and it’s not really her fault that they all went home already.  She has posted several times about how much she misses Dre and I think his departure if anything has left her afloat a bit with the rest of the Idols as she seemingly spent most of her time with him.

  • Anonymous

    I’d just like to go on record to say that some of us vanilla people really, really like R&B.  And, some of us like musicians (and AI contestants) that show us their original flavor, whatever flavor that may be.  

    I don’t know a single white person (in my real life) who doesn’t own some Beyonce, Bruno Mars, etc. I’ve also recently discovered that I’m not the only suburban white lady amongst my Catholic school mom friends with an abundance of rap on her ipod.  (Honestly – we started a little mom work out thing in the park and we all brought our ipods, and there wasn’t a single one of us who didn’t have some JayZ, Eminem or Kanye on there.  I was quite stoked by that revelation!).  

  • Axxxel

    Yeah Adam Lambert’s performance was so NOT country… I was surprised he was not eliminated after his “middle eastern/Dilana-esque” rendition of Johnny Cash’s Ring of Fire during “country week”… and he even said ” No plans” when Ryan Seacrest teased him of going to Nashville. So who was the TV audience that night ?

    Little note….I guess Adam had to swallow his above words when post-idol he ended up performing in Nashville’s Ryman auditorium during his Glamnation tour.

  • larc

    Thing is, personality and promotion are what sells music in 2012, not talent.

    That fact is not only generally true, it unfortunately speaks volumes about the critical depth of the music-buying public.

  • Anonymous

     I don’t doubt they have a few Eminem songs on their ipods, but I bet if they watched idol and voted the majority of them would be for phillip or colton ;)

  • Axxxel

    Interesting… is that maybe the reason why Season 8’s Adam Lambert AND Kris Allen were both wearing plaid during their combined press conference just before the top 2 finals ?

  • Tess

    If I choose to go to a club to “listen” to music it tends to be somewhere where I can hear Motown, or jazz, or soul with plenty of horns and a mean “real” piano and an upright bass.  Guess I might have some hereditary genes I know nothing about. 

  • Anonymous

     ‘Thinking “outside the box” doesn’t mean not considering the box at all.
     Why would I, as someone doing the hiring, choose a candidate who
    expressed their attributes in ways that had NOTHING to do with the job
    they were applying for and were of no use to my company..’

    Yeah, true indeed. But I wasn’t talking about that sort of person. I was talking about somebody who gives you a new idea that *is* relevant to your company — but is new and too surprising for a hidebound person to be able to take it in– and someone who *does* have the skill set that you require! (In this case, Jessica *does* have the skill set of a pop singer, no matter what we think of her personality, etc!)

    And I’m not at all convinced that Jessica was in any way intending to be so creative that she wasn’t even near the Idol box. I just kind of think that she didn’t realize what the Idol power-voter box is — that it’s so heavily dominated by songs that everybody knows and songs that aren’t urban or R&B, and so on. … I’d be more inclined to buy your statement if I’d heard Jimmy and Akon and the judges and so on criticizing her song choice — as they have done at times. If she picked something that was *so* outlandish and so likely to turn everybody off, why didn’t they?

    As for me — and I don’t think I’m alone; I believe I remember Windmills, a country fan, saying the same thing — I was actually quite happy with her song, enjoyed it and was impressed with her choice. …. So while she didn’t play the Idol power-voting game — I completely agree with you there, although I think it was inadvertent, not because she’s some sort of provocateur or terminal eccentric — she *did* play the game that at least some of us music fans are into….. And since music success in the future is probably going to continue to be a niche thing for most performers, that’s probably all she needed to do, isn’t it?

    I do agree with you that the song she chose was unlikely to get votes. I disagree that it was as nutso a choice as you state, though, since, while I’m sure she wants to win the show, I imagine what she wants more is a music career, just as they all do.

  • tinawina

    Yeah SpencerJ, I do think this may be more of a genre thing than a racial thing per se. The audience just may be more attuned to certain styles, not that all the people who like this or that all look the same.

    But I do think that if there really is a rock and county lean going on, well, who dominates those fields? Just like if there was a hip hop lean, there would be ideas in people’s heads of what a good act looks like and behaves like that would be completely unrelated to the standards in say, country music. So that may be a bit of what’s been going on lately too.

  • Anonymous

    not to defend the womans post because it was stupid…but I think where she was going was looking for a a sound. Jessica like Taylor, Elliot and Danny to som extent have voices that have a urban(black) sound to them. It is not something you can change because it is just who you are.

    Colton is never gonna sound like anything but a “white guy” ;)

  • larc

    Yeah Adam Lambert’s performance was so NOT country… I was surprised he
    was not eliminated after his “middle eastern/Dilana-esque” rendition of
    Johnny Cash’s Ring of Fire during “country week”.

    Well, Adam did fulfill the basic requirement of the theme: he sang a country song!  ;)

  • Anonymous

     The author said that the song was not well known. This isn’t true for R&B listeners, Jazmine Sullivan is well known by most people who love R&B music. Skylar sang a Kellie Pickler song, how is that any more known to people outside of country fans? It isn’t, but since Skylar is singing a music genre dominated by white singers and white listeners, while Jessica is singing a genre dominated by minority singers and listeners, it means she needs to change. Not to mention, in the idol bubble, those who sing rock are always hailed as “artistic”, while those who sing R&B are called boring, or “diva screamers”. People are very careful these days to not explicitly say race, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t underpin so much of what happens in our society. And this doesn’t even touch on gender. How many people knew that Jonny Lange song that Phillip sang? Phillip has a super low key personality too. Why has he never been in danger of being eliminated?

  • steph6449

    For Jessica, I “hope” the main factor was the song choice that was not relatable to a lot of the audience vs. people not perceiving her as likable. I haven’t voted for her much (have taken for granted she had enough support not to need my vote, obviously wrong, lol). But I like her fine, and she is one of my favorites, along with Joshua, Erika, and Elise who I have given votes as I thought they needed them more.

    Wrt AI8, idk, likabability is pretty subjective. Danny had & has plenty who liked him or he wouldn’t have gotten to top 3 and been a favorite all season to potentially go higher. Kris was also likable, although a lower key personality. Adam was likable as well for me, and so were Matt and Allison that year. So, hmm, obviously I was not basing my votes on that…

    If I had to choose one of the areas in that article as far as Danny and AI8, it would be the first one. As it got to the late stages of the competition, most of the themes and song choices didn’t really play to Danny’s strengths (Dream On, Paula’s goofy song choice for top 3, even Come Rain or Come Shine that he did well but had nothing to do with his image or music choices prior to that point). Or were not particularly contemporary / exciting for the audience (You Are So Beautiful — gorgeous vocals from Danny but an older ballad). 

    Also as was obvious then in his exit interviews and as he’s spoken about since, Danny himself was just reaching the end of what he could handle at that point in terms of stress from the competition combined with his personal issues. He was in extreme emotional relief in the exit interviews when he got voted off, even though disappointed not to go higher.

  • Anonymous

    Sigh.

    If only Dannii was made judge on XFUS I might have watched…

  • Anonymous

    The Entertainment Weekly Summer Movie issue is out this week. Some nice mentions of the upcoming Sparkle movie which stars Jordin Sparks and the late Whitney Houston. here is a nice scan thanks to the Classic Whitney site  which has a new pic of Jordin and Whitney.

      http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/c421644abf66d9c51a10860b4d8fb7eb47adf4d8_r.jpg

  • Anonymous

    I’m not actually surprised that some people think that way. It’s just sad, but you can read some ridiculous comments online. The only thing she wrote that I agreed with is that “R&B doesn’t work very well on Idol”. I mean look at what happened this week, Jessica chose what I thought was a pretty good song, from Jazmine Sullivan who is well respected in the R&B community, and she delivered what I would rate as her 2nd best performance on idol. I come online, and I read comments about the song being dull and boring, and Jessica showing no emotion, and the next day she gets voted off. 

    At this point, if I was advising Jessica, I would tell her to just keep on bringing the R&B/ Soul and bring out the swag. It doesn’t even matter if they start calling her arrogant or cocky, she just needs to focus on creating buzz in the Urban/RnB community because that’s where she belongs. Look at Fantasia, she still sells gold albums and gets played on Urban stations, and yet she’s not popular with the current idol viewers. 

  • Anonymous

    My issue with Jessica isn’t her style, it is that I don’t find her vocal tone pleasant, it attacks my ears.  If a large part of the audience feels the same, they won’t vote for her, how good the might be.

  • Anonymous

    Thought the vid of Lauren was really cute and the singing was a bonus nice work between her and Zach for Lady A’s Dancing away with my heart. I guess she went to a local highschool, after her set, that was having a their prom and danced for awhile sounds like she had fun as well as the kids at the prom.

  • Tess

    Not being a “minority” (other than I have been “teased” about being a Pollack for most of my life) I guess I don’t immediately see the same trees in the forest that others may and I don’t have the same sensitivities about music genres as others do.  It really never occurred to me that country music was almost all “white” or that r&b was predominantly “black”…I don’t see color of skin when I listen to music…so color me very naive (in fact, truth, I never thought about Mariah or Alicia Keys, as examples, being black…never mattered).  I gather, though, that I am odd man out.

  • Anonymous

    “I get the whole “likeability” aspect and all that that you must have to
    win Idol, but I can’t stress enough how much it bothers me that a 16
    year old female is deemed unlikeable for not doing anything unlikeable
    in particular, but for just being rather reserved and shy off stage.”

    Agreed. When did “introverted and reserved” become “cold, calculating and unlikable”?

  • Anonymous

    On Thursday, I happened to notice the Jazmine Sullivan was in the top 5 on the R&B/Soul chart at Itunes — where she usually is not. … Hard not to conclude that this had something to do with Jessica’s song choice. … It’s all about niches, really, I guess.

  • Anonymous

     It is easy when you are a member of the dominant culture to not think about things like race, but for those of color it isn’t easy to escape the fact that you are an “other” to the majority of people in this country. You may have never thought about Mariah or Alicia’s skin color, and it might not matter to you, but I bet it matters to them, and I bet it is something that they are confronted with almost every day of their life.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe Tigervixxxen was referring to the big reaction after Pia got eliminated. I remember a lot of celebrity tweets. I guess there would have been a similar reaction if Jessica was not saved.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you so much for the Lauren’s link. It is so cute. Lauren looks great, love the new hair cut and she is a great performer for someone still so young.

  • Anonymous

    Just want to point out one tiny thing..

    Whitney Houston was the
    ultimate black singer who sung more “white.”  That is why she did fun
    pop songs like I want to dance with somebody on her 2nd album.  As well
    as didn’t we almost have it all, which was a totally NON soulful
    ballad.  That is the example of sing more “white.”

    The opposite of that was Toni
    Braxtons’ strategy to only do R&B songs on her 2nd album instead of
    doing pop songs ever. 

    The sing more “black” example  would be the album from Jessie McCartney
    who did all urban songs, and danced with big booty girls in the videos
    and forget that he was ever a pop performer.

    It works to cross over or not depending on who you are as an artist. It’s a choice.

  • Anonymous

    It’s all about perception.  It’s just the way it is in life.

  • Axxxel

    True ! LOL.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    I liked the Forbes article for the most part. Like the writer, I felt that package with her, Hollie, and Joshua hurt Jessica. She not only came off as not fun, but also as looking down on them for their playfulness. I’m not saying either of those things are true, but it’s how it was edited.

    I’m baffled that ‘Stuttering’ is considered an obscure song. If I know it, it cannot be obscure. I thought it was a good song choice and it showed her skills. A good song will shine on first listen and make you seek it out. A big plus on this choice was that it wasn’t another Beyonce song. Still in the genre Jessica prefers, but a different artist.

    One of the things that Idol used to get praise for was introducing their audience to music they might not normally listen to. Over the years though, it got stale because they kept rehashing the same songs and themes over and over. 

    I did not read anywhere in that article that the author was telling Jessica she needed to sing ‘white’ songs. I also don’t agree with some posters here saying the AI audience is all white … or right wing Fundamentalist Christian or Middle America, Southern, etc. The audience is very mixed in that regard. I do think it skews heavily female though.

  • Axxxel

    I still remember Paula’s song choice for Danny Gokey. I love that song and knew it would suit Danny’s voice well but I was wondering whether the audience was familiar with that song.

  • Nele621

    Phillip comes across as less likeable than Jessica. Yet, that hasn’t hurt him. Jessica can’t help it if she is shy and quiet, as was DeAndre. DeAndre really impressed me in all his interviews, tho, and we’ll see how Jessica does. And yes, if she was voted off at #7, not likely she’ll make the top two.

    I don’t think it is about song choice, talent, or who you are singing for (judges or audience). It is all about the demographic of the voters.

  • Anonymous

    lol, Adam isn’t wearing a plaid shirt in that interview

  • Anonymous

    The Forbes article is interesting.   It’s sad that the guys will get points from the audience for performing obscure rock songs, or for staying true to themselves, and performing songs that might not fit AI, but that represent the type of music that they will do after the show, but Jessica won’t get the same credit for doing the same thing, simply because the song is from an r&b artist.  

    I wonder if she’d get extra points if she rearranged a rock song.  Maybe she coud try that next week, but I don’t know if the audience would be impressed by that, as they are when a white contestant changes around a r&b or rap song.

    I do agree that all of the contestants need to remember that it’s the public and not the judges or Jimmy who vote on the winner.  And Jessica didn’t come off well in the segment that aired before she performed with Joshua and Hollie, but then I don’t know how some of the audience felt about Joshua dragging Hollie around, or playfully tackling her.  Joshua is about as non threatening as they come, but all some people are going to see is a black man being rough with a white girl.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe when you are a young teen female… If Jessica was older then the same elements (introvert/reserved) would give the impression that she may be a good leader who knows how to keep her head cool during rough times.

    And of course the above elements would give the impression of “cute” when it belongs to a young male.

  • Anonymous

    I’m just sick of white people demanding that minorities give up who they are and conform to white culture (just one example would be stop singing R&B, sing “artistic” music like rock).

    This white person isn’t “demanding” that anyone sing anything different, however I am only going to buy and listen to the music I like.  And if when asked who I think is a better singer, I am just more likely to choose someone that sings in a genre I like.  Any votes I make are going to reflect what I prefer to hear; it has nothing to do with race.  For the record, rap, grunge, punk and heavy metal all make me want to shoot the radio. Now Jessica, I could listen to her all day.

  • Anonymous

    They all watch Idol – it dominates our Thursday morning discussions LOL.  But, none of them vote.  At this point, we’re all firmly in the “girls” camp.  We don’t all have the same favorite, but all of our favorites are one of the ladies.  I actually don’t know anyone in real life who admits to voting for anyone on Idol. 

    I think the hard core voters are possibly their own demo which isn’t necessarily representative of the viewership as a whole.  I’ll vote on occasion, but certainly not for 2 hours.  (I don’t even do thinks I like to do for 2 hours straight).  I cannot commit that much time to a stranger on TV. I think the people who get that invested, are actually a very small fraction of the audience.  

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting Lauren dancing on stage with a cute boy from the audience.  That was so CUTE!!!  That girl has no shortage of charisma and personality. :)

    The idol winners aren’t necessarily the best singers or even have the best personalities.  Lee Dewyze didn’t seem to exude personality. The massive speed-dialing voting (cougars and young girls) of the conservative idol demographics tend to favor cute white boys.  Men don’t seem to vote. They don’t even want to admit they watch the show! 

    Jessica is a likeable in her sweet, quiet way.  Joshua is a great singer with a nice personality, but keeps landing on the bottom. Poor Elise doesn’t stand a chance.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah Adam Lambert’s performance was so NOT country… I was surprised he
    was not eliminated after his “middle eastern/Dilana-esque” rendition of
    Johnny Cash’s Ring of Fire during “country week”.

    The rules changed around seasons five and six, the judges stopped penalizing people for rearranging songs.  I think we can thank Daughtry and Blake Lewis for that.  

    One thing that the author got wrong is that belting and showing that you can hit certain notes is no longer in style for AI voters, now people want to see or believe that someone is being original, and has their own style and voice.  It’s why those who can rearrange songs, and even someone like Phillip, who has rarely picked a bad song for his voice, will get so much credit.  Adam got credit for knowing the arrangement, and for not trying to deliver what would have been a karaoke performance.  For some reason, the female contestants are never given credit for doing this.  Either they make the wrong choices like Elise has done this season, or the show does nothing to establish how musically smart they are.  Maybe Slezak was right, and last week was the show showing that Skylar is just as musical as the guys.  It is funny that Jimmy tried to stop her from playing the guitar during her performance.

  • Axxxel

    oh I see, maybe this is a better example… but he was wearing a jacket as well. Kradison interview after reaching the top 13. Btw Allison was 16 years old in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TzHzR8ySes&feature=related

  • Anonymous

    Every time Simon opens his mouth he reaffirms how slimy he is – ugh.

  • Anonymous

    Picking “obscure” songs has been mentioned as a problem for Idol contestants before. “Stuttering” is a great song and r&b fans are going to be well aware of it. But it didn’t crossover to mainstream pop radio, so if someone isn’t a r&b fan, then, no, they probably wouldn’t be aware of the song or how it was originally recorded.

    And unfortunately, I think that plays into the voting — people want to compare the Idol contestants’ version of the song with the original version. Familiarity and all that. So if they don’t know the original version, they have nothing to compare it with (unless they then go listen to the original version of the song). 

    And the judges seem to buy into this. I remember Randy calling “Falling Slowly” a song no one would know when Kris performed it S8. Even though FS had just won an Oscar for best original song. 

    I think this is one reason why Idol has been reluctant to let contestants perform their own original music — the producers and judges are far more comfortable with music they are familiar with, and I think they think that’s what the viewers prefer, as well.

    However, Jessica — and all the other contestants — need to stay true to the kind of artist they want to be, even if it ends up costing them votes. 

  • Nele621

    Eek. I hated those interviews. Kris was so awkward back then. Unbelievable how he has improved so much. I guess Archuleta was awkward too, and he also has come a long way in his interviews. Allison also seemed to struggle in her interviews.

  • Anonymous

     I would tell her to just keep on bringing the R&B/ Soul and bring out the swag. It doesn’t even matter if they start calling her arrogant or cocky, she just needs to focus on creating buzz in the Urban/RnB community because that’s where she belongs.

    I agree.   I think this strategy worked for Daughtry.  There was a report last night that Skylar got a shout out at the Opry, which bodes well for her post idol, and I think that Jessica needs to start looking at her career too, and not worrying about whether or not she wins.  Even if she performs a rock song, she needs to give it an r&b arrangement.  She needs to follow what Scotty did last year, and focus more on showing people what type of music she will be making, and who she is, and don’t worry about anything else.  She may not win, but it will help her gain credibility with PDs and the people who will buy her music.

  • heartly

    Going off the discussion topic here, Kelly finished her Stronger tour last night.  She covered a song that she had put on her very first demo cd when she was 17.  The difference in that recording and last night is crazy and she even made fun of herself for how she sounded on the demo.  lol 

    To Make You Feel My Love – (song starts at 1:38) http://youtu.be/K3WSdKcQ4Ug

    The night before she tackled Mariah’s Can’t Let Go.  Friday the 13th bit her pretty good that show because her in-ears kept going out.  I think she went through 3 pairs of them during the show and for this song, she had to go with the floor monitors. She talks about it in the opening parts of this video, then there’s a group in the crowd that kept distracting her so she went on a little with them. The song starts at 3:30 – http://youtu.be/GZg9F4XCz-o

    In other Clarkson news, it’s rumored that the next leg of touring will be announced this week, most likely tomorrow.  There’s some radio stations that send out emails last week saying they were going to be giving tickets away this week for it.  It’s going to be with The Fray and rumored to be a co-headlining deal. Supposedly 32 dates, most being outdoor venues.  She’s also booked to finally go to Brazil for 2 shows in June and she’s also supposed to be on a promo trip to the UK and Sweden near that same time.  Then after the second US tour, it’s off on a world tour that’s supposedly ending just after the new year.  I’m tired just thinking about all that traveling.   And not to forget Duets, which according to oca.com begins taping on May 3.  whew.

  • Tess

    But I’m confused, Gangreen.  Jessica isn’t black, isn’t she Asian/white with a hispanic ethnicity.  So why is “black” even a topic while discussing her?  If her choice of genre is also the choice of many black performers does this mean she has taken on the role of a psuedo black…aka the line from the ‘Commitments': I’m black and I’m proud.

    I’m not convinced that the author of the Forbes piece had any intention of slighting a race of people when she proclaimed Jessica’s song choice as “lesser known”.  If she was talking about Skylar and mentioning her song choice as “lesser known” would people be saying that her intent was to put down a race.

    I’ll bow out of this discussion now because 3 things my Mom taught me was to not discuss race, religion or politics because these topics are just to near and dear to most people to be objective about them (including me).  And the only reason I am commenting is because I find it interesting that Jessica should be identified by a race that she isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Sure there is some “wow can’t believe she was voted out, Jessica is so talented” but that’s mostly from within the bubble. I mean outrage as in “Idol is broken this girl should win and nobody is voting for her!!!”. Not so say zero articles like that exist but the slant in the media seems to be why she wasn’t connecting and how OTT the judges were acting rather than hysteria over losing Jessica. Also things like from both Howard Stern and Jane Lynch, the latter who was even at the results show, made a crack about Jessica thinking at 16 she’s worked hard her whole life. Nothing about the save at all. Just an observation is all, and yes I realize it’s a generalized observation.

  • Anonymous

    The TV mogul, 52, confessed they were lovers when they worked on the show. He admitted: “I had a crush. It was genuine love.” And he reveals he lusted after Cheryl Cole and wanted to bed her, too, when his feelings for Dannii cooled.

    Gee. So many things wrong with this. First, as the employer, you should not be sleeping with the staff. Second, it is not genuine love when you only talk about a woman’s physical attributes. Lust, yes. Love, no. And when you move onto to another employee when your genuine love has cooled… I cannot express how yucky this is.

    But who knows? It’s the Sun so it might all be made up. But it’s still yucky.

  • Anonymous

    She needs to follow what Scotty did last year, and focus more on showing people what type of music she will be making, and who she is, and don’t worry about anything else.

    ITA. She will not win like Scotty, but it’s better to use the time on the show to define her brand then worry about playing the game. I do think she’ll survive for another three weeks or so because this has scared her base and she does have one, but I think it’s highly unlikely she (or any of the girls) will win. Here comes another WGWG because Joshua has the same problem – he’s R&B. So I’d advise him to do the same.

  • Anonymous

     

    If she was talking about Skylar and mentioning her song choice as
    “lesser known” would people be saying that her intent was to put down a
    race.

    But she didn’t, and that is the point.

    But I’m confused, Gangreen.  Jessica isn’t black, isn’t she Asian/white
    with a hispanic ethnicity.  So why is “black” even a topic while
    discussing her?

    Tess, look back through all of my comments in this thread. I never once said the topic was black. I can’t help it if you saw that I wrote minority and you substituted black in your mind but I certainly never said that. That is an issue that Jessica faces too, everyone acts like racism is a white-black issue and people of color like Jessica get left out of the discussion altogether.

  • Axxxel

    Kris is much better now in interviews but his and Allison’s awkwardness made them “human” in my eyes and therefore more relatable to an  awkward person like me.

  • merkureye

    I think the best response to all this stuff of . . . . sing this song-don’t sing that song . . . smile more,  . . . interact with other contestants more . . . don’t show disappointment when the judges tell you that you suck.  . . , are the imitable words written by Elise Testone on Twitter in response to a fan telling her to do all of the above:

        “I think I will just be myself.”  –  Elise Testone

  • Anonymous

    Skylar sang a Kellie Pickler song, how is that any more known to people outside of country fans?

    Kellie Pickler may not be well known to some non-country fans (though she has sold 2.5x as many albums as Jazmine Murray so far), but she is DEFINITELY better known to Idol watchers/voters…

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    I don’t think the author is telling Jessica not to sing R&B, but to find ways to maximize every part of her potential voting audience she can. Jessica has done a good job at establishing she is an R&B singer, but what about playing up the fact that she is a teenager? That’s what the first point seemed to be getting at. Sing songs that teenagers are listening to on the radio now, or that artists her age are releasing, which still leaves current r&b/crossover artists to choose from that are better known than Jazmine Sullivan.
    The second point seemed to suggest that Jessica should focus on more vocal tricks and acrobatics she is surely capable of as opposed to the emotional nuance that the judges love that voters may not be registering with. Whether the author is right is debatable, but I do think it was more about Jessica possibly holding back because the judges appreciate it as opposed to telling her to go sing from another genre to pander to that audience.

  • Anonymous

     Did you mean Jazmine Sullivan? Because Jasmine Murray was an idol contestant…..

  • Tess

    Gangreen…point taken…you did say minority and I misinterpreted.  But the fact that R&B is considered a predominantly “black” genre just confused me.  

  • tinawina

    Idol has always had a predominately white audience and has always skewed female, so I don’t think that is the inherent problem. It has also always been a family show and was one when single welfare mom Fantasia won. In fact, I would think the audiences for The Voice and XFactor were also largely white and female. The difference is probably that those audiences may have more fans of pop and r&b involved, and more fans of music that is considered edgier.

    Not that the fandoms of these genres don’t have particular racial leans, it’s just that race is not the whole story here I don’t think. I don’t think we can explain it with stereotypes of any kind.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing I found disturbing on Idol was a 30 year old Danny Gokey manhandling a 16 year old Allison. Who in their right mind would find Hollie and Joshua’s friendship offensive? This is a damn television show! These kids represent the face of America. They are from different walks of life and they appear to be quite accepting of one another. So this year it’s going to take the idol audience to task for being racist toward minorities and women. It was bad enough labeling them homophobic. Who is the key demographic for the show? From what I gathered from online sites, a large segment are women ages varying in the 18-49 demographic, but many,many more are older, nearing 70+ years old. Talk to Aiken, Hicks, Cook and Lambert. They’ll tell who has bought their albums, given them their post Idol success. Why do you think One Direction didn’t win, but someone like Matt Cardle did? Jessica is good, but she is lacking in many, many ways. David Archuletta had the same background as far as talent shows and parents working so hard to help them succeed, but David had an endearing personality, and sympathy for a having an overbearing stage dad. Plus he had great vocals. Jason Castro was Hispanic, as well, as David Archuletta. It’s easy too label people racist, rather than to really look at what a contestant might be lacking. I cringe when Jessica says she’s been working hard all her life. The girl will get a record deal. I said before sweet and demure will only to her so far. She needed to show some personality. Her bobble on the piano would have been a fun moment to laugh bout, but they chose not to discuss it. It would ave humanized her, like after Haley’s fall. We saw she was spunky, tough, and professional, but mostly able to laugh at herself. Good thing the majority of viewers don’t spend their time on-line. I think they’d be offended.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002033520082 Brian Thurman

    When will people realize that Jessica Sanchez is just a really good singer who will not sell or ever be big? The judges seem to think she is the next Whitney Houston. She may be the next Whitney Houston of a year ago(never heard anything from), but she will NOT be the Whitney of the 90’s that’s for sure. I would almost bet we will be lucky if we hear her with 2 or 3 songs on the radio. The girl is a girl with a great voice, but she is boring with no personality.

  • Anonymous

     Fixed…but the point still is that as soon as Ryan announces you’re covering a former Idol, “well-known” and “relevant” cease to become issues. 

  • Anonymous

     

    so color me very naive (in fact, truth, I never thought about Mariah or
    Alicia Keys, as examples, being black…never mattered).  I gather,
    though, that I am odd man out.

    They’re black? :) Seriously, you’re not by yourself. I couldn’t care less what color any artist’ skin is. Beyonce is one of my very favorite current female singers out there. God, I love that voice! (and she’s also one of the most beautiful!)

  • Anonymous

    The Voice pimps just that the voice.  AI pimps the whole package and to appeal to the American Idol audience today you need to be country or be the traditional white male with guitar/piano.  I still think a girl is going to take this season. Just depends on whether America likes country music or pop/r&b.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick kesia monteith

    OMG! ACK! That was a terrible interview. I was not a fan of Allison and Kris before this, and certainly not a fan of Adam’s back then. As much as I am a fan of two out of the three now, that interview made them look so bad. Eeep!

  • Karen C

    To me, IF the problem with Jessica was song choice, it’s because I think it is implied with this theme that this is the week that they can show where they fit in the current music scene. And if she wants to do end up doing pop, this song wasn’t pop.  I don’t think this was the only problem, but I think that’s where song choice comes into this.  The others all chose current songs that were more identifiable with pop, or in Skylar’s case, country.

    And, actually, even though Colton’s song was also obscure, it is identifiable with pop because of the Rihanna/Eminem version, so I think that was a good choice for him, because it both showed who he was as an artist.

  • Anonymous

    Some of the best singers in the world just can’t seem to hold my interest.  I think Jessica Sanchez is by far the best vocalist in the competition and I would really like to see her win – I think she deserves it.  But I don’t plan on buying any of her music after Idol and find her a little on the boring side to watch.  Actually, I can’t see myself buying any of the contestant’s music after Idol this year.  Maybe one will surprise me – possibly Elise.  Compare that to last year, where I liked Scotty, James, Haley and Casey all enough to buy at least some of of their music so far. 

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick kesia monteith

    Check in the comments section. That is what I responded to. I was more angry by that comment than the article, really:

    AEvangelista 10 hours agoI’m Filipino-American. I agree with Caroline. I’ve blogged Idol for many years, and I’ve always said the black singers need to sing white. R&B doesn’t work very well on Idol. Jessica must have black blood (negrito) because she has sung a lot of black girl songs. She needs to whiten up.

  • Nele621

    How do we know Jessica is boring with no personality? Isn’t that what people said about DeAndre? She might just be shy and reserved like him. Look how DeAndre’s humble and gracious personality shines in his interviews. So it is better to be douchey (like Phillip) than reserved?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    Cowell is a dog.  He should never get married.

  • Anonymous

    See I kinda don’t even think country is THAT powerful on the show. We have had way more “rock style” people make it to the finals over the past three years. Adam, Cook, Kris, Crystal, and Lee all fit under the “rock umbrella.” Scotty and Lauren were the first two country singers to make it to the finale since Carrie. People were even doubting Scotty making it last year since the idol audience “doesn’t like pure country.” And look what happened. People just suddenly started the whole “only country and soft rock singers do well” memo after Scotty and Lauren were in the finals. Before that, after Carrie won, country singers didn’t get that far. Bucky finished 8th. Kellie finished 6th. KLC finished 7th. No true country singers made it out of the semi finals in S8. And in S9, we had two pop country kids(Haeley and Aaron), and the furthest Aaron got was 5th.

    BTW, I still think Jessica has a good chance of winning now. I think people are angry about this and a lot are vowing to vote harder-I even saw a few on facebook who never vote and said they will be voting for Jessica for the first time next week.

  • Nele621

    I haven’t heard any interviews of Allison recently, but as much as I always liked Kris, I used to cringe in the beginning when he would talk.

  • too-cool-for-school

    I watched about a minute of the interview because I couldn’t believe it could be as bad as people were saying, but it really is! 1 min was all I could get through, haha. Blech! Very awkward.

  • too-cool-for-school

    I watched about a minute of the interview because I couldn’t believe it could be as bad as people were saying, but it really is! 1 min was all I could get through, haha. Blech! Very awkward.

  • Anonymous

    Sure there is some “wow can’t believe she was voted out, Jessica is so talented” but that’s mostly from within the bubble. I mean outrage as in “Idol is broken this girl should win and nobody is voting for her!!!”. Not so say zero articles like that exist but the slant in the media seems to be why she wasn’t connecting and how OTT the judges were acting rather than hysteria over losing Jessica. Also things like from both Howard Stern and Jane Lynch, the latter who was even at the results show, made a crack about Jessica thinking at 16 she’s worked hard her whole life. Nothing about the save at all. Just an observation is all, and yes I realize it’s a generalized observation.  

    I think this says a lot about the season itself, especially in comparison to last season.  Jessica is pretty much the only person who has been getting any attention from outside the bubble, and that’s mainly just been people reposting videos of her performances.  The show itself hasn’t been creating any mainstream buzz.  Even the 30% drop in ratings hasn’t been getting the same type of press as much smaller drops received during previous seasons.  

    The save didn’t even get the level of press that Casey’s did.  I think the problem is that we have this incredibly talented cast, but something is missing.  Before Thursday’s show I saw two djs and a blogger comment on how the show just seems to be going through the motions this year.  They all acknowledged the talent of the cast, but feel that there’s not much interest in this season.  I’d bet that voting is way down, which is why Ryan hasn’t mentioned it once, and I might go along with the theory that the lack of interest means that the front- runner has changed every week.

  • Anonymous

    Jessica is the Pia of this year.  Perfect vocalist that just seems to have trouble making a huge connection with the viewers.

  • too-cool-for-school

    Phillip isn’t a douche. Douchey was like that Johnny Keyser dude or Jermaine Jones.

    P2 is shy and reserved also. Probably the most of anyone and therefore his social skills can seem the most lacking, but I don’t get a douche-vibe from him at all.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder why Philip,who is the least animated of the bunch, but is one of the most popular gets a pass, while this child gets eviscerated about something so ridiculous.

    I dont live on the knoll, but I am starting to wonder about her edit. Skylar and Colton are portrayed as this faux couple, Elise and phillip the same. Joshua and Hiollie as as Bffs. So now where does that leave a shy and reserved 16 year old girl?

    The glee in which people seem to negate her obvious talent by labeling her as boring puzzles me. I mean that’s all you got?

    The forbes

  • halo9125

    A BIG part of Jessica’s problem stems from the fact that she has been home schooled. I can’t begin to speculate on why any 11th grader would prefer that over the traditional high school experience- but that aside, not having “traditional” social interactions with other teenagers is certainly not helping her. Look at Scotty and Lauren-both of them came across as typical teenagers, while Jessica just doesn’t.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Obviously nobody knows these kids true personalities, but I do get a different read on Jessica and Dre.  I’m starting to think Dre wasn’t as shy or reserved as portrayed (humble & gracious, yeah), but he actually seems to be quite social and seems to love being around people.   He seems to have close relationships with many of his fellow Idols. Though now that I think about it, halo0125 makes a good point below about the fact that Jessica is homeschooled and by comparison Dre is not and is used to a normal high school setting.

    With Phil, he just is more awkward to me than anything else.

    I didn’t watch the linked episode, but I used to never be able to watch an Allison interview.

  • Tess

    Kesia, I just don’t think a comment to a blog post really carries much weight in the real world.  Lots of crazies and idiots who post comments.  I, myself, put little weight in a “comment”…if I did I would never read any comments posted on an Adam Lambert centric blog post.  I don’t think the majority of people feel like the poster you quoted. 

  • Anonymous

    Quote: ‘while this child gets eviscerated about something so ridiculous’.

    Eviscerated?

    Unless that’s happening elsewhere on the net, as it always does, every season, regardless of age, gender or anything else to all sorts of contestants…

    But here?

    People keep talking about it, because other people keep talking about it and they see a point that interests them or that they agree/disagree with and comment. ETA: at least, that’s how it seems to me, from what I’ve read.

    It’s clearly the topic of the moment, but I really don’t see anyone picking her apart.

    Disclaimer: I haven’t read every single post on this subject over the past few days, because – well – there isn’t enough time in the day, so people may well have been using words such as cold and calculating, but it certainly doesn’t seem to the the prevalent language of those who aren’t particularly her fans.

  • Tess

    The glee in which people seem to negate her obvious talent by labeling her as boring puzzles me.

    Isn’t this the catch 22 of Idol.  Where some viewers see unending talent and potential others see drab and boring.  I don’t feel “gleeful” because I’m not on the Jessica bandwagon…I just feel like I have an opinion and a right to share it.  Again…talent isn’t everything, nor are technical power or skills.  Everyone has their own set of filters and their own judgments…not every contestant can be every viewers special snowflake.

  • Anonymous

    Kesia – ITA with Tess.

    I’ve read too many utterly disgusting and often very bigoted comments on blog posts like that one. They just seem to attract the nutjobs and bigots of society. Either that, or people so desperate for attention that they need to troll websites, trying to create outrage.

    It’s  something that seems to be part of the net, unfortunately, but I wouldn’t take it to be representative of the majority.

  • http://kcjewel.wordpress.com/ jewel

    So many good points.  I think DeAndre did the same thing.  I watch that Knocc you Down video over and over and think… why in the world didn’t he show that personality while on the show.  Well self… because AI lets them do ONLY what they want America to see, no matter what the person has to offer.

  • justmefornow

    I’ll tell you what’s missing this year: The X-Factor (no pun intended.)
    They don’t have it.

    Talented singers don’t always translate to excitement and buzz. Some of these contestents have really good voices, but really none of them are as fun as the group last year. I wouldn’t pay money to see any of them live. Except maybe Heejun. I didn’t even wake up last week til Joshua sang. lol

    People want to be entertained, especially with other choices in singing competition shows now.

    They are just not that entertaining.

  • Anonymous

    I do agree that all of the contestants need to remember that it’s the public and not the judges or Jimmy who vote on the winner.  And Jessica didn’t come off well in the segment that aired before she performed with Joshua and Hollie, but then I don’t know how some of the audience felt about Joshua dragging Hollie around, or playfully tackling her.  Joshua is about as non threatening as they come, but all some people are going to see is a black man being rough with a white girl.

    I wondered a little about that myself, elliegrll.  I’m old enough to see Hollie and Joshua’s friendship as a sign of progress.  It warms the cold cockles of my heart to see how little color matters to the younger generations.  But I’m also old enough to know that that image can feel threatening to some viewers, and society swings back and forth from love to intolerance in a constant motion.  

    Which is my fancy way of saying that Joshua’s Bottom 3 placement this week might not be entirely about his performance, or the preference of girls for cute guys with instruments, but also about an image that made some viewers uncomfortable.  

  • too-cool-for-school

    Jessica is a threat to the others, and the judges’ pimping is not her fault at all but it also isn’t helping her at all. It’s having the opposite effect that they want it to. But I think that’s a lot of the reason for Jessica bashing. She poses a threat to win and the judges so blatantly favoring her is making her haters extra cranky.

    I don’t *think* she got this much hate in the early weeks, not at all like she does now. Looking at the timing of that, we can see that that’s obvious jealousy and rage from people who take this stuff way too seriously. Seriously enough that they malign a 16 y/o who has done nothing to harm them or deserve malice. It’s pretty sad.

    I don’t like the unnecessary ranting against Elise and P2 personally, but I do feel less sorry for them than I do for Jessica. They’re adults and they have to take their medicine for whatever they’ve said to anger people, but Jessica has been really harmless thus far.

  • Anonymous

    but really none of them are as fun as the group last year.

    I didn’t remember last years group as very fun, and I certainly remember lots of comments about how the group was boring, scotty does the same thing every week, lauren is coasting, casey is terrible half the time, james sings everything off key etc…The last year’s flaws are always forgotten when discussing the new year’s crop. Next year there will be people saying that it isn’t as fun a group as last year and they miss people like hollie, joshua, skylar, etc.

  • Tess

    Man I’ve come to realize that I live in a fairy tale world because I would never have even assumed that anyone would read into the heartfelt interaction of two friends some of the stuff I’ve read today.  Guess I’m just thrilled to be blissfully ignorant.

  • justmefornow

    JMO, but I find them less entertaining. Not a lot of interesting characters in this bunch.
    Obviously this is my opinion, but a 30% drop in ratings, no mainstream buzz, less press coverage, etc. means others must find something lacking with this season making it less entertaining too.

  • too-cool-for-school

    Homeschooling is the problem now? Ha-ha! She isn’t even my #1 favorite, but I dunno… all of these new ways that keep popping up as means to put her down or explain why she is the way she is are getting a little wacky to me.

    I don’t understand who we are to conclude these things when we really haven’t been given that great a chance to get to know her or any of these contestants. People are really operating on assumptions and it seems unfair.

    Perhaps the show is to be blamed for caring more about promoting Steven and J-Lo’s careers or drumming up dramatic ratings shenanigans with TMZ than to focus on who these people are?

  • http://twitter.com/BobbiNJ Bobbi

    Your first paragraph is just one of the many reasons I think the minimum age in this contest should be higher. Sixteen year old kids are not ready for this kind of competition on so many levels that have nothing to do with their ability to sing.

  • Karen C

    S10fan:

    Maybe the reason country artists did better last year is because what is happening on the charts in general?  Rock, even soft rock wasn’t that prevalent last year even on the HAC charts, but Country crossover has been very popular the past year or so. 

    Either that or they just weren’t cast, which is more likely.

  • Anonymous

    Gee. So many things wrong with this. First, as the employer, you should not be sleeping with the staff. Second, it is not genuine love when you only talk about a woman’s physical attributes. Lust, yes. Love, no. And when you move onto to another employee when your genuine love has cooled… I cannot express how yucky this is.

    But who knows? It’s the Sun so it might all be made up. But it’s still yucky.

    Yes Simon objectifies, humiliates and uses women, unfortunately this is nothing new. How many times has he done interviews where he admitted to at least thinking about sleeping with Paula Abdul? Add to that his comments that every woman over forty needs plastic surgery and his contant belittling of his female costars and you pretty much get a better picture of the sleaze he really is.-
    People like him for what?

  • Tess

    I don’t think “not fanning” someone equates across the board with “hating” them, nor do I think that Jessica is a threat to others…and from my perspective in the peanut gallery I don’t see the blatant favoritism of the judges.  And I must be reading a totally different thread because other than a very few harsh comments (which are always to be expected) I don’t see how Jessica is being maligned since people’s opinions are based on their own perception of the truth.  And as far as Jessica’s age….well, she has admitted, herself, that a music career is and always has been her goal and unless she is pretty naive (which I don’t think she is) she knows full well that not everyone is going to like her or what she does…she isn’t the 12 year old from the X-Factor, for heaven’s sake.

  • Anonymous

    My feed just exploded with one big “Andrrrrrrrrrrreeeeew!!!” after Cale tweeted this picture (KAB is back, yay!):

    http://lockerz.com/s/201618376 

    Also, that is a whole bunch of keyboards Kris is looking at there :)

  • too-cool-for-school

    I don’t think I ever implied that and your reply is a bit overtly-defensive, IMO. HOWEVER, I cannot demand nor expect that everyone know exactly what I mean or how I mean something when I say it, so I apologize, let me clarify. ;)

    That wasn’t all intended to be limited solely to this thread. I’m a lot of random forums and there is some seriously cruel stuff being said out there about her. I’m not going to repeat it, but it’s pretty ugly here and there, believe me. It’s really mean-spirited and unnecessary.

    I feel sorry for her, that’s all. I don’t think she has done anything to deserve nasty comments, in the many other outlets I have seen them made. As for judges favoritism, if you don’t see that now, I don’t think I can convince you. It’s been really apparent to me this past week, but it’s a matter of opinion I suppose.

  • Anonymous

    Well, a P2 turned off A LOT of people when he made that comment about not wanting to go and touch people’s hands in the audience. xD A lot of people think he’s arrogant. He just has a lot of crazy fans to balance that out.

    I really don’t understand why there is so much backlash towards Jessica. I always thought she had tons of personality. She seems to act exactly like a teenager her age should. I feel like she sings with lots of emotion. She actually does mix it up and sing uptempo songs and ballads. And Stuttering was my favorite performance from her.

    I can explain Lee DeWyze! Simon Cowell constantly pimped Lee and made it seem like Lee was the greatest contestant that season. (But in sort of a Kris Allen, oh you’re so talented yet so humble! kind of way)

  • Anonymous

    Actually, he gloried in singing ROF there.   Has a great sense of humor.

  • Anonymous

    Why haven’t we gotten a backstory about Jessica?  We know about Phillip’s pawn shop, about Skylar’s hunting and her family’s business, about Colton’s relationship with his sister, and we also know that Joshua is a preacher’s kid and sang in church. The 3 people that they haven’t shown much of a backstory of are Jessica, Hollie, and Elise. 

    Even AGT did a better job of giving 11 year old Jessica a backstory. Her dad, who’s in the navy (I think), was fighting in Iraq at the time, and she was talking about how she missed him and she wanted him to be proud of her. But on idol… nothing.   

  • Anonymous

    They look so young!

  • Anonymous

     The in season drop in ratings is actually very encouraging. How is the 30% drop between last season and this season the fault of this cast? It seems like since the drop was at the beginning of the season, if any cast is to blame it is last season. Also, no mainstream buzz or less press coverage? Do you have numbers to back this up or is this again just your opinion? Jessica’s I Will Always Love you video that mj posted an was =eventually taken down had more views than every single video from S10. that doesn’t seem to me that there is lack of buzz…

  • Anonymous

    Although Adam has worn plaid a few times, believe that blue shirt is the washed denim work shirt that he wore during his performance of “One.”

  • Anonymous

    Man I’ve come to realize that I live in a fairy tale world because I would never have even assumed that anyone would read into the heartfelt interaction of two friends some of the stuff I’ve read today.  Guess I’m just thrilled to be blissfully ignorant.

    Or maybe you’re just younger.  I think it’s great that you don’t have these thoughts come into your head.  It’s the dream of the future that my generation had — but we weren’t there yet.  So, instead of being blissfully ignorant, we were hyper-aware.  Or, at least, I was.  

  • too-cool-for-school

    I’m not sure! They haven’t really done the backstory footage in the way that they used to.. or if they did, it was during the audition episodes and maybe some for top 24 week. It has been kinda sloppy, IMO. Hollie’s has been mostly about her family and Elise about her band, which is fine, but it isn’t much to go on. Jessica has had a pretty quiet edit too.

    She is young and maybe there isn’t a ton to talk about. She sings, she’s in school, etc. That’s all we really know, right? I guess that isn’t super interesting but neither is a pawnshop, haha. It’s a mystery!!

    That’s interesting about AGT!

  • Anonymous

    The BeBe Chez thing did not help Jessica at all. I also remember in the semis video intro packages most of the other girls had some sort of charming intro package and Jessica’s started out about how she loves to shop. Call it an unfair perception but I don’t think it helped her start out on the right foot. I also think the botched trio last week (which was WNTS’s lowest rated performance of the week) didn’t help Jessica or Joshua as it was the last thing the viewers saw of them. I’m sure Jessica will get the sympathy vote as Hollie was getting last week and she’ll be around a few more week. However I can’t believe in anyway the save helps her, the perception is Jessica is on borrowed time and that’s not going to chance.

    Great point Elliegirl about the lack of Idol interest in the media, nothing creates much of a stir anymore. I believe the media sets the tone about how the show is perceived in the general public. It is no wonder why to me why Idols are having an exceptionally difficult time on mainstream radio. It all trickles down.

  • Anonymous

    Allison had personality and a great husky-ish voice – very appealing.  Plus she was part of Kradison which got a lot of play.  Completely different type of performer than Jessica.   Great fun.

  • gabriel oak

    If we’re talking about overpraise by the judges then I think Skylar should be singled out, too. She really hasn’t done one great performance on the show. She certainly a good singer but she hasn’t done one song that made me want to buy her on iTunes or made me want to buy her album. This is not true of say, Casey James, who got criticized by the judges but had special musical talents that made me want to buy his CD two years later.

    And it’s true that some of these contestants are giving the public what they want but are they qualified for the job? I think it’s hard to say if any of these contestants will sell tons of records.

    The backstory thing is interesting. I personally am turned off by Skylar shooting animals and that makes me not want to vote for her. 

    And Hollie’s friendship with Joshua doesn’t make her anymore likeable to me.

    I think this two song week is going to jumble things up so more and who standouts may be a surprise.

  • halo9125

    Stating that she is home schooled isn’t a put down, it’s a statement of fact. I’ve been teaching for a long time, and have had quite a few students who switched to the regular school setting from the home school environment. In every single case I’ve encountered, the kids were bright, mature beyond their years, had a terrible time interacting with kids their own age and gravitated towards their teachers rather than their peers. I was merely stating a possible explanation for why some say they find her  personality (or lack of such) off putting.

    Why Jessica was home schooled is beyond me- I’m assuming that because she does come from a military family (her father served in the Navy) they moved around a lot and they found this to be a better option than constantly switching schools.

  • gabriel oak

    I don’t think the woman who won X-Factor this year has it either.

  • justmefornow

    Hmmm… with all those Youtube views and buzz how could she have had the lowest votes?
    Maybe the views are from non-eligible voting places? Outside the US?

    In any case, it is what is is. It doesn’t really matter. They bore me. I really don’t care who wins.

  • Anonymous

     

    The in season drop in ratings is actually very encouraging. How is the 30% drop between last season and this season the fault of this cast? It seems like since the drop was at the beginning of the season, if any cast is to blame it is last season. Also, no mainstream buzz or less press coverage? Do you have numbers to back this up or is this again just your opinion? Jessica’s I Will Always Love you video that mj posted an was =eventually taken down had more views than every single video from S10. that doesn’t seem to me that there is lack of buzz…

    You didn’t use any quotes, and it’s not coming up in the reply window, so I don’t know if you are addressing this to me or not.  I never said that this cast is responsible for the 30% drop.  Considering that that drop has been consistent all season, and that the ratings for this season have also been consistent, that loss can’t be pinned on these contestants.As far as stats on lack of mainstream buzz or coverage, how would I come up with stats on articles that aren’t being written?  I said that aside from Jessica, no one else from this cast seems to be getting any attention outside of the idol bubble, and that for Jessica, that attention is mainly in the form of other sites posting videos of her performances. The season 10 cast seemed to get more attention from the mainstream press, which is probably why so many of them have been signed.  They also reignited the tradition of eliminated contestants appearing on GMA, despite the fact that NBC was just about to launch a competing singing contest.  The coverage of Pia’s elimination and Casey’s save also garnered more media attention than what happened on Thursday with Jessica.  

  • justmefornow

    Neither do I. It’s kind of ironic. lol
    Chris Rene was the only high finisher I found even remotely interesting.
    And I didn’t even think he was a great singer, but he will probably be the most successful from that group.

  • Anonymous

     I wasn’t addressing you.

  • Anonymous

    You may not be familiar with how home-schooling is not an isolating experience.  These kids constantly interact with each other at classes and social/cultural/sport events.  And it’s interesting how diverse these boys and girls are – where I live many are black whose parents are desperate to get them out of public schools.  Considering the products of many of these public high schools, perhaps being a “typical” teenager is not always the best thing. 

  • too-cool-for-school

    I misunderstood then, my bad! That’s an interesting perspective.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm… with all those Youtube views and buzz how could she have had the lowest votes?

    Only a small subset of viewers actually vote.

    Are you not going to address the fact that the 30% drop has nothing to do with this cast and may in fact be the fault of the previous season’s cast?

  • too-cool-for-school

    The counterargument also being an interesting perspective, haha.

    I can’t really weigh in on it but I’ve known people that were homeschooled that turned out to be very social adults. It depends on the parents/parent, doesn’t it? Some homeschooled kids are sheltered, thus the opinion (and stereotype, dare I use the term) and others are not. Jessica doesn’t seem socially-stunted to me. She just seems quiet, a trait that isn’t only possessed by homeschooled kids.

    As long as it’s not another lame put-down, I’m fine with it though. :P

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    So what you’re saying is that Idol is a popularity contest? I don’t think anyone’s going to argue that.

    The problem is white males are always winning that popularity contest and the kind of hoops a girl has to jump through despite being superiorly talented to even get to the top is ridiculous.

    Apparently, a girl needs to be an amazing singer, have a defined musical identity – both without appearing too professional, spunky and spirited but not too much in your face because it’s off putting, pretty but not too much, not a pageantbot but no older than let’s say 22, not too sexy because it’s slutty but not quiet and shy either because quiet and shy means she’s got no personality… 

    Whereas it looks and sounds like for a guy it’s enough to have a dick. A guitar helps. Personality whatever, anything goes.

    What’s demanded of girls is practically unfeasible and that’s what makes the Idol voting block prejudiced against women.

    I’ll stop at women because minorities is another rant altogether.

  • Anonymous

    And in S9, we had two pop country kids(Haeley and Aaron), and the furthest Aaron got was 5th.

    Haeley? I don’t even remember a Haely from S9. How quickly the memory fades. LOL

    But I do think you missed CaseyJ who, if not a Scotty in totally country, sure had a strong country vibe.

  • http://twitter.com/TweetsFromFrank Frank

    I thought Simon only had a thing for black or exotic women. I imagine that’s why he liked Tiah so much.

  • Tess

    Maybe the lack of media attention is because this is an election year and politicians are a constant target waiting to be pounced on by the media…and probably a lot more fun to make fun of.

    As far as the decrease in viewership, I’d like to know how the rest of network television is holding up…is Idol the only show that is taking a rating’s hit or has most of TV not come up to snuff based on previous years.  Hasn’t Glee tumbled way down and hasn’t FOX as a whole shown measurable decreases all season.  And ABC and NBC are hanging on by a thread and their stable shows are gasping for air, especially their comedies.  CBS seems to be the only network that is doing well and that isn’t even reflected in the choice demographic.  The majority of TV viewers are just getting older and older as more teens and young adults have found lots of alternatives to use to watch their favorite shows…and on their schedules not the networks.  Gee, I catch peeps watching delayed broadcasts online all the time…and you see lots of people catching up on their hand held devices.  

    I don’t think it is fair to lambast Idol for its ratings without demonstrating how those ratings compare to everyone else…that’s only getting half of the variables and half of the story.

  • larc

    I think Scotty’s case was a bit unusual.  None of the country Idols before him were as totally country as he was and still is.  From the first second he opened his mouth to to sing, there was no question about what his genre was.  As word of his performances got out last season, country fans who don’t normally watch Idol were likely drawn to the show because of him.  Lauren probably benefited from that as well.  I’m not at all convinced the two of them ended up at #1 and #2 due to voting only by those traditionally inside the Idol bubble.

  • Anonymous

    A BIG part of Jessica’s problem stems from the fact that she has been home schooled.

    Home schooling is why Jessica is having problems on the show? LOLOLOLOL

    I have a nephew and niece who are both home-schooled. They are gregarious, charming, and interact well with other kids. Nephew plays in violin concerts, participates in baseball and soccer. Niece is in dance and gymnastics. They both have tons of friends. Oh, yeah. And they are both doing extremely well in their coursework. 

    Jessica might have problems, but home-schooling is not one of them.

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    And Colton and his great personality is the next who? P2 will perhaps take the industry by storm with the power of HIS personality? Skylar the next Carrie Underwood? Joshua the next…? Hollie? Really?

    Their best shot at achieving anything post-show is Jessica. At least there’s the possibility she’ll grow out of her shell since she’s really young (so could Hollie but Jessica’s better). The guys are helpless cases success-wise, even though I do appreciate Joshua.

  • Anonymous

    I think Adam did more than just play the likeability card — every week he came on the show and WOW’ed everyone because each week he morphed himself into a different style of singer and knew how to dress up or dress down to fit his image into the song he was singing.  He used all his years of professionqal training on the stage and in the clubs to make his song presentations resonant like no other singer on that show.   Wasn’t it Kara who said she could hardlly wait to come each week and see what Adam was going to sing.  And he never disappointed!!  He worked closelly with the band, the directors, the stage crew to help him produce his 1-1/2 minutes of totally engrossing song presentation. He became educated very fast in TV stage lighting and camera angles. He got the American Idol viewers caught in  this great expectation that kept the them engaged and voting for him every week.  He was (and still is!) the “Whole Package”.

  • Anonymous

    ganggreen29, Sorry about my confusion.

    I don’t think the drop is this cast’s fault or the fault of last year’s group.  It’s the show.  It’s Steven and Jennifer checking out during the live shows last year.   An audition round that was horrible last year, and somehow even worse this year.  The judges failing to give good critiques. The failure to make the show about the contestants.  And it’s a show where it seems like only white guys have a chance of winning.

  • Anonymous

    Stating that she is home schooled isn’t a put down, it’s a statement of fact.

    Um. No. It’s your opinion. Which is totally fine. Sure, it’s based on your ‘experience’ but all experience is colored by where you’re coming from. Coming from a public school teacher’s point of view, I’m not surprised you hold this opinion. But it’s  still just an opinion. ;-)

  • justmefornow

    Interesting. Then Youtube views are probably meaningless for estimating voting numbers and/or post Idol sales?

    As for the 30% drop being the fault of last season’s cast?  Who knows?
    Maybe they were just so fabulous that people thought, well that can’t be beaten, so why watch this year? lol.

    I know I tuned in, and kept watching last year after not watching since David Cook’s season, just because of James. Maybe others had a favorite too that they watched only for.

    Or maybe it’s just plain old Idol fatigue.

  • too-cool-for-school

    “And Colton and his great personality is the next who?”

    What is Colton’s personality? I see so much criticism of the others but never him.

    He had the family/sister edit early on, now he talks about being blessed, his hair and the fake-romance with Skylar? What else is he about? Not trying to be an ass, I actually want to know.

  • Anonymous

    If you watch the videos on YouTube of Adam’s performance at the Ryman, you will see that Adam made the remark right after singing ROF that Simon would have to swallow his words about the folks in Nashville having to throw their TV’s out the window.  In fact, Adam got a standing ovation from the Nashville audience. 

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, a girl needs to be an amazing singer, have a defined musical identity – both without appearing too professional, spunky and spirited but not too much in your face because it’s off putting, pretty but not too much, not a pageantbot but no older than let’s say 22, not too sexy because it’s slutty but not quiet and shy either because quiet and shy means she’s got no personality…

    Yes, exactly. 

    This is why I am always so disappointed every year with the girls that make the t24. They never deliver what they have to to win.

     (said with much sarcasm).

  • Anonymous

    The only time I personally saw Adam wearing a plaid shirt with Kris was when they performed with David Cook (who also wore a plaid shirt) at that GMA concert in the park.  I remember saying, “oh no……. not you too Adam”.  Thank goodness Adam put away that shirt after that performance.  Maybe he felt my hexing sign through the TV.  But it was really a LOL moment. 

  • larc

    Personality may be important for Idol contestants, but it’s certainly not everything.  If it were, Heejun would still be there.  ;)

  • Anonymous

    Lets not forget Casey James, who alot of folks are now calling the Saviour of Season 9.  He came in 3rd!  Has had a Top 30 Country Song on the charts since August and his album just got rave reviews. His “tour date” card is filling up fast for 2012. 

  • Tess

    Maybe Idol needs to change its voting to reflect who you “want to go home” every week.  Wonder how that would play out?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002033520082 Brian Thurman

    Wow you really are clueless… Sklyer isn’t the next Carrie Underwood, but she is the next Kellie Pickler only better. Skylar is probably the only sure deal of actually having a career after idol. Josh and Jessica do not stand a chance of any career after idol minus a hit song if lucky. The may be the two best voices, but it ends for them after idol. Skylar and Phillip are the only 2 that actually have a shot at having a career. Maybe you will see this in 2 years when Skylar is big in country and Jessica is… well… that’s it she just is

  • Tess

    Nope…Adam was wearing a dark (navy or black) shirt with a grey vest.  I’m embarrassed that I remember that.

  • Anonymous

    As far as I can tell, Colton’s pretty much about his music and his religion. That’s all I’ve ever heard about him. But I don’t follow him (or any of the S11ers) on twitter, or FB or whatever, so maybe I’m missing something?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen Adam wear plaid a few times. I remember one green plaid shirt in particular that he wore. But it was never a big part of his wardrobe. Plaid seemed to be a big fashion trend in 2009 — it was in pretty much every store.

    Kris doesn’t seem to wear plaid much these days, which is sort of funny, considering how much he wore it back in 2009 :)

  • Valentin432

    Idol ratings… That is a funny discussion but if you don’t take into account that two hit shows with the same basic principle as Idol have debuted since season 10, you’re not looking at the whole picture.

    Casey James is called the savior of Seson 9? I missed the boat on that one, particularly since I saw his single and album sales.

  • too-cool-for-school

    Along with Jessica, one person with a solid chance at a career is Colton. He will do really well in the Christian alt-rock sphere. Or whatever sphere groups like Lifehouse or Switchfoot succeed in. That style is pretty popular with those that it attracts. It’s something Jimmy and that label can cater to well and he seems to have a loyal fanbase.

    I see him faring better than P2, in this battle of the white dudes. Unless P2 gets to do what Haley Reinhart has done and really take control of his album, it could end up like Kris Allen or Lee DeWyze’s post-Idol albums; fine but without making a wide impact. *shrug*

  • Anonymous

    LOL – I’m with you, Tess.  Well, he did look gorgeous that day.

  • Anonymous

    Personality can carry a contestant only so far on Idol. In the end, if you aren’t a talented singer, you won’t win. I personally may not always think the MOST talented person in any particular season ended up winning. You may not think the most talented person won in any particular season.  But that’s just personal taste. I would say that everyone who has won Idol is definitely very talented in his or her own way.

  • too-cool-for-school

    That sounds about right to me. Just personality-trait wise I’m lost, because his fans seem to think really highly of who he is but I don’t know what to make of him myself, similarly to most of the people this season. Is he nice? Does he have a sense of humor? Does he have any other hobbies or interests? It’s hard to say, y’know?

    Stop making it so difficult for us to know who these people are, Idol! :P It wasn’t always like this.

  • Karen C

    The problem is white males are always winning that popularity contest and the kind of hoops a girl has to jump through despite being superiorly talented to even get to the top is ridiculous.

    I think it’s more than just popularity, because in the cases where males have won or been more popular they have been talented also, as much so as the females.   

  • Mateja Praznik

     Hit songs are needed in country music too, so Skylar is in the same boat as everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    IWALY is an example of a beloved and famliar song that worked out well for Jessica.  WAMLAW did the same thing for Joshua.  Both those songs are known by almost everyone no matter what type of music they listen to.  I think it really helps if viewers are happy to hear a song they might not has heard for a while and say to themselves “I have always loved that song”.

  • Valentin432

     It was worse before.
    They have made a better job in recent years of giving more camera time to the contestants who make the semifinals.
    You always had at least 4 or 5 people who came into the semifinals with 0 camera time.
    You also couldn’t have a direct access to the contestants like you can now with Facebook and Twitter.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Part Five: American Idol and Simon’s Turbulent Start with Paula Abdul
    http://www.justsimoncowell.com/#/bio-extracts-pt-5/4563095202

    This website posts stuff from Simon’s biography. This is #5.

  • tinawina

    LMAO! Yep. We are nitpicking Jessica and some of what people say may be true, she certainly has her flaws.

    But the larger point is like you said, this mythical female who has everything it takes to take the whole thing has yet to materialize since season 6. And if we look at all the females that have made the top 24/36 since then, we will find a large variety or personalities, genres, styles of dress, pimping levels, whatever that were presented to the public. But it still hasnt been enough meanwhile, some of the males that have made it have some of the same flaws we are pointing out in the females. And this goes triple for minorities.

    There can be a lot of explainations for this, including a preference for rock which white males tend to dominate, ditto a tolerance for country, or not. It doesn’t matter if that’s not it and it really women with crushes (which I don’t think it is) or whatever else. All that matters is the preference is there. And there is only so much tying themselves into knots you can ask people to do to meet impossible standards. The least we could do is stop blaming the girls for basically not being boys LOL.

  • Valentin432

    Males win twice more tha women these kind of competitions.
    We’re far past any kind of needed sample size to know that Males have an advantage when the audience is voting (over 200 Idol seasons, over 100 X factor seasons, etc.)

    Unless the answer, females are less talentented than male, which you could always argue.

  • Anonymous

    The guys are talented too! How talented and who is more talented than who is a matter of opinion and can be argued every way.

    The fact that only white males have won for the past 4 seasons is becoming more and more of an issue.

    But it doesn’t mean that white males – or the white males who have won – don’t have talent, whatever the state of their sales afterwards.

    And it doesn’t mean that the people who voted for them, only voted for them because they were ‘cute’ or they liked their hair or whatever other explanation can be dreamt up might be.

    Not that no-one who voted for them did so because they fancied them, or that those who voted for them because they liked their talent didn’t fancy them – though I’m sure not all of them did.

    It could equally be argued that any men – or women – who have voted for women contestants recently have done so because they were attracted to them. Certainly, most of the female contestants people have really raised a stink over have also been very attractive…

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    I think it’s more than just popularity, because in the cases where males have won or been more popular they have been talented also, as much so as the females.

    Disagree. Scotty wasn’t anymore talented than Lauren and certainly less talented than Haley, Lee was considerably less talented than Crystal. Not to mention lower-place finishers getting the boot instead of less talented guys.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with a crush is it motivates one to vote because by its nature it brings emotional involvement.  People will put in time to help someone they are a little in love with.  These “crush” voters young and old alike may be a smallish percentage of the voters but I bet they are ardent ones.

  • Anonymous

    Jessica has a fine voice for a sixteen-year-old, but, for me, she’s simply not interesting – and that’s what I’m looking at each week. 
    Who knows what the future may hold?  Maybe she’ll be fabulous, but right now, for me, she’s boring.

  • http://www.facebook.com/masewallace Mase Wallace

    if i was an idol contetsant, i’m ripping pages from past idol playbooks daughtry, david cook,etc taking songs form different genres and making them fit who i see myself as an artist, and my chosen genre
     screwing compromising and conforming, that’s lying to yourself and the people will see right through that,if it costs me votes, then tough, i wasn’t meant to win,then, i’d rather get eliminated being myself knowing i did the best i could,then win the “crown”, at the end of the day i gotta look at myself in the mirror 

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I’d reckon anyone who votes hundreds of times has a crush – what else would motivate that degree of dedication to the outcome of a TV reality show!?

    But it would be interesting to see what percentage of the vote actually comes from that type of voter. Less than people think would be my guess.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously Daughtry didn’t do something right since he got the boot in 4th place, so as a current contestant, I wouldn’t take a page from his playbook.  Cook did it much better – and won.  

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    >Disagree. Scotty wasn’t anymore talented than Lauren and certainly less
    talented than Haley, Lee was considerably less talented than Crystal

    In your opinion. Definitely not mine. :) Plus I’d argue that several who finished lower than them were just as talented.

  • Anonymous

    You know, people keep talking about winning like it is a good thing. There are singers I love on American Idol – but I never want them to win.  Never.  It is a curse.  Some of us stop voting for our favorite when it gets close – and for a reason.

  • Anonymous

    Those same dj’s are probably the same ones who also praise the mediocre talent of The Voice.

  • too-cool-for-school

    People give Daughtry a little too much credit sometimes. I think overconfidence from his fans that didn’t vote enough was an issue that resulted in his elimination, but Cook and Kris Allen played the game much better than him.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I wouldn’t disagree with that: it’s a total double edged sword.

    Good, because it undoubtedly brings financial rewards and a wave of publicity to ride immediately post show. Winners are always better off afterwards in those respects than they were before. And they always have an opportunity to exploit. I don’t think any of them can complain – they signed up to the whole thing after all and presumably wanted to win.

    Bad, because it would seem to inevitably involve compromise in the music that’s produced and provides a deceptively large audience that isn’t always in tune with who the artist actually is, once the karaoke is removed.

    Plus, the stigma seems to be far greater for winners than for those who competed and did reasonably well.

    Cook has been my only favourite who won and it would have been really interesting to see where he might have gone if he hadn’t won.

    But he did, so that’s that.

    Hopefully,now, two albums out and without a last album of huge sales to live up to, there might be a chance to drop the pop compromise co-writes with artists with whom his style just doesn’t gel: the kind of stuff you seem to get saddled with as a non-country Idol winner and that, IMO, have been the low points in both post-AI albums.

  • Anonymous

    You may not be willing to pay money to see any of them live, but that doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t be. They may not have “it” to you, but they do to others. For me personally, a Skylar concert would be a blast. I have heard people on twitter who talk about how they can’t wait to see a Jessica or Colton concert. I’m sure there are a lot out there who would pay for an Elise concert(I would!)

  • Anonymous

    The problem for women on this show is that they tend to be Mary J. Blige or Celine Dion clones.  Those two artists are popular but not amongst the younger people who vote.  Jessica is much more Celine then Adele who has heart and soul and PERSONALITY.

    If they want a female to win she needs to be more like Rihanna, Katy Perry, with a good live voice.  Jessica and especially Hollie are out dated at this point.

  • Anonymous

    You definitely hit the nail right on the head :) the same thing goes where people try to say that there are never any “moments” during the current season then go on about how many moments there were the previous season. Last year people were doing the same thing-saying there were no “moments” in S10 and that nobody had a moment like “jealous guy.” Now suddenly this year, people are calling “Bennie and The Jets” a “moment” along with many others that were never considered moments last year. Next year people will say “there have been no moments like when a man loves a woman, I will always love you, or whole lotta love!”

  • Valentin432

    Brooke, Allison, Jesse, Lilly, Katelyn, Crystal, Haley, Lauren T., Erika, etc. None of those women had anything in comon with Mary J or Celine D, they didn’t fair well with the votes either.

    Yes Jessica has to be Adele, while the male singers can be mediocre, that’s the bar for female singers.
    We all know that the past few winners were the second coming of Bruce Sprinsgtein, Bob Dylan and Bono.

    The Rihanna, Katy Perry type would never do well, they’ve casted those kinds of pretty females who put on a show several times on X Factor, they tend to be the most hated contestants on the season.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I totally agree. Daughtry gets a lot of undeserved credit. He came off as cocky and that arrogance, which he still has, turned many off to him.  Taylor, Cook, Kris and Lee were far more likable contestants – and had the talent to back it up – thus, they came out on top of their respective years.

  • Anonymous

     And have sold a whole lot less. So there is certainly a trade off.

  • too-cool-for-school

    Heehee… true that.

    Daughtry’s career is obviously better. I don’t think his time on the show was quite as interesting as some of the others, though.

  • mchcat

    Disagree – again only a preference I guess – but imo Scotty is so much more talented than Haley – I couldn’t take her “growling” like nails on a chalkboard – I don’t dislike her, just her music. 

  • Axxxel

    Yeah Jessica backstory could be something simple as how she has to continue “going to school” even if she is on idol… and how she feels about balancing school and idol.. because going to school kind of isolates her a bit from the rest of the group and it will take more time for her to adjust to the group. How does she feel about that ?

  • Anonymous

    The only upside for me not seeing a WG win this season (yep, I’m one of those evil people who vote for them) is watching a pop winner completely bomb on mainstream radio and proving my point that Idol has lost it’s influence in the market.

  • Anonymous

     So you only vote for white men? At least you are honest. Can I ask why?

    What will you do if someone like Jessica wins and has huge success on mainstream radio?

  • Axxxel

    That GMA concert with Kris and Adam was very early in the morning. Or Adam did not want to contrast too much from Kris, or Adam’s other shirts were in the laundry… joking. Maybe it was just a bit too early in the morning.

  • Anonymous

    I like rock music. Has nothing to do with race and gender. I like Elise too and I liked Carly. I hope all the contestants find success after the show and if someone becomes a huge star then great for them. My comment was more about hoping for an end to the the crucifixion of past contestants not living up to astronomical standards when the perception changes from them being the problem to the brand equity in the show and the push from it being the problem.

  • Anonymous

    Winning is very helpful for winners. IMO Jordin, Cook and Kris would not have near the career they have if they had won.  I have know way to prove this, but I bet Casey J. would be much bigger now if he had won with all the label support and press the winners receive.  Winners also make a lot more money the year they win.  Idols two biggest stars to date are winners and female ones at that.  Daughtry is an anomaly IMO.  No other non winner has had his success.

  • Anonymous

    I understand the criticism for Idol having only WGWG winners the past couple of seasons. But if you look at some of those winners they still were the most successful contestants that season in terms of sales & hits. So it’s not like other contestants have gone on to be successful. David Cook was still the most successful contestant his season. He just hasn’t sustained his success.  Kris sold less than Adam, but he still had a huge hit song. Lee didn’t sell well, but Crystal & other contestants that season didn’t either. Casey has a top 20 song, but it’s too early too tell if he will be a successful Idol. I’m hoping he will. Scotty has sold far above everyone else on S10. However, we are still waiting on Haley & Pia’s albums to see how well they do.

    IMO Idol just needs winners with great sales, hits, & marketability. I would love for a female contestant to win. But I just want winners who can be successful in the music industry & not be considered by the general public as terrible winners (Lee, Taylor).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    That GMA concert with Kris and Adam was very early in the morning. Or Adam did not want to contrast too much from Kris, or Adam’s other shirts were in the laundry… joking. Maybe it was just a bit too early in the morning.

    I think you must be misremembering, Adam didn’t match Kris or Cook at all at the GMA concert. Although Kris and Cook matched each other LOL.

    http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/awesome-trio_582x388.jpg

  • Anonymous

    Does the difference in sales justify enough of a trade off to relinquish your integrity as an artist?  I think not.  Each individual artist is the only one who can answer that.

  • Axxxel

    Bad Kradison interview right ? and slowly these artists  grew in front of our eyes… Their interviews became better, they switched up songs and sang from their hearts.
    How can we not root for them ? Jessica does not seem to grow that much.

  • Anonymous

     But the conversation was about Daughtry not playing the idol game as well as others. Is having large sales relinquishing more of your integrity as an artist than changing yourself for a tv show? I personally don’t think so.

  • Anonymous

     Oh, sorry, I thought your comment about voting for white men was related to race and gender. I guess it was about rock music. Pardon my confusion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cathy.mcguirekosak Cathy Mcguire Kosak

    you can’t possibly be serious w/this comment…..lol!

  • Anonymous

    I could say that many artists do things to give them a boost in sales that might relinquish their integrity. An example is Rihanna working with Chris Brown. Rihanna’s a star & didn’t need to work with him. However, them working together has set off a lot of buzz & attention. But there are many people who could say Rihanna lost some integrity by working with him.

  • Axxxel

    Now that DeAndre is gone, Jessica will have to look for a new “best friend”. Not easy if she is already praised highly by the judges and you are a frontrunner and the producers seem to challenge her against Hollie. And she still goes to school during American Idol… which sets her a bit apart from the group.
    Allison considered Adam a bit like her “big brother”. Maybe Jessica should look for a big brother or big sister too. Elise ?

  • Axxxel

    Hope that Jessica will have a WOW – moment just like Adam had with e.g. “Mad World” or “A change is gonna come”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cathy.mcguirekosak Cathy Mcguire Kosak

    unless you happen to know exactly who you are coming into the competition,and know what you believe in,& are not willing to compromise…Stay strong ,humble…that will always give you a great reflection in any mirror……we all know that’s Scotty…

  • Anonymous

    But it’s not just personality that’s important. There’s also the factor of how entertaining you are when you sing. To use your examples: Yes, Katherine could create a moment, but so could Taylor, plus when Taylor did a fast song, he was a lot more fun to watch.

    Plus you can create a buzz just on the strength of your voice, but that gets old. Kris was able to make people go “Wow” when he did an acoustic version of “Heartless.” Ditto for Adam Lambert and David Cook with their re-arrangements.

  • hayes

    I will not try to discern what went (or is) wrong with Jessica because it is something I don’t think will ever end– people have their preferences and that’s the way it goes with popularity contests like Idol.
    I, someone who wants her to win but do not vote, am actually content with the simplest explanation of all: she just didn’t have enough votes to get her through. It sucks, but oh well.

  • Anonymous

    Hayes, wisest and most concise post on this whole sorry matter, hands down. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    It still circles back to the demographic. Even the likes of Shirley Halperin from THR has a thing for Phillip Phillips. Women crush on cute young guys. It’s as simple as that. Change the demographic and a girl will win. If you don’t vote like a crazed fan for your favorite, they will not win. End of story.

  • http://twitter.com/HaleysShindig HaleysShindig

    Amazing. Its happened every week of live shows for 11 years, the one with the least votes goes home. Tons of excuses can be made, trust me, I’ve made my share, but bottom line, thats the facts jack.

  • Axxxel

    Adam Lambert was polarizing, you either love or hate his musical interpretation but in the end we have to admit like you mentioned before that he knows how to set up a performance. I think Jessica’s music is polarizing as well but she does lack Adam’s experience to set up a performance, which I think is normal because she is only 16. Adam was 27 when he auditioned.

    As for etnicity, Adam Lambert with his black died hair and olive skin complexion looked kind of exotic. Alison did look more white than Salvadorian though. Maybe America is not ready yet for an American/Philipine/Mexican Idol ?

    Then there is song choice. Like some other poster said, Colton was clever to choose a song that was also covered by Rihanna.

    Hope Jessica will find that song that will connect her even more with a broader audience… I don’t think Jessica will win but I would like to see her  at least in the top 4.

  • Anonymous

    It takes more than a good voice to have a wow moment.  And at sixteen that’s all she’s got right now.

  • Anonymous

    Top 20 hit — it just went Top 20 on country chart today :)

  • http://twitter.com/HaleysShindig HaleysShindig

    Bennie was a moment. :) 

  • Karen C

    My comment was more about hoping for an end to the the crucifixion of past contestants not living up to astronomical standards when the perception changes from them being the problem to the brand equity in the show and the push from it being the problem.   

    I agree with this, and I don’t think all past contestants should be compared to the few that have been majorly, or even more moderately successful. 

  • Axxxel

    Adam Lambert learned how to connect more with the audience in interviews… and I guess that is what these Idol hopefuls are learning as well now.

    When Ryan Seacrest asked him after his performance of ROF in top 11 week, whether he will go to Nashville, Adam answered “no plans”… He could have answered with a more diplomatic “We’ll see”… which could have made him a bit more likable in the eyes of the audience.

    After Idol Season 8 was finished, during his interview with M. Slezak (still with Entertainment Weekly at that time) , when Adam was teased about the possibility of singing country music in the future, he was more diplomatic… he said “it could happen”…

    And indeed thank goodness, Simon has to swallow his words about Adam Lambert, the TV’s and Nashville.

  • Anonymous

    Aside from both being rock bands, Lifehouse and Switchfoot don’t have all that much in common. Lifehouse is pretty much regulated to HAC charts these days, while Switchfoot is more likely to be found on Triple A charts. Neither one gets much rock radio attention. I used to hear both groups on alt rock stations, but not so much in the past few years. I don’t think either group is a staple on the CCM charts. Of the two, I’d say that Switchfoot is the one that is more of a Christian rock band. Lifehouse is pretty much just a rock band whose members happen to be Christian.

    Unless Colton decides to go do Christian rock to such an extent that he doesn’t even try for mainstream radio play, he will likely end up trying to make a dent in the HAC charts — just like David Cook, Kris Allen and Lee Dewyze. He isn’t likely to get any attention from rock or alt rock stations, since they pretty much ignore anyone who has come off Idol. 

    PS – this is likely the same path Philip will end up going — HAC. 

  • Karen C

    I agree that this may has to do with demographics, but I think it’s because much of the demographic for the show prefers rock, and now country, so they naturally prefer a contestant that is in that genre.   Again, more than just voting for a cute guy.  

    There have been several years where male contestants were thought of as cuter than the ones that did better and even eventually won.  

  • mchcat

    CaseyJ?  That is so good – he was the first one I actually voted for – once he left, so did I.  Then last year, Scotty and some for James – absolutely no one this year.  I vote on line and it is difficult with the scramble up letters to prove you are human – I am not wasting my time this year

  • mchcat

    GONE for Scotty

  • Anonymous

    Adam has an olive complexion? IMO he has the fair, freckled skin of the beautiful ginger he is. :)

  • Anonymous

     

    In your opinion. Definitely not mine. :)

    Nor mine.

  • everything

    Maybe Jessica should look for a big brother or big sister too. Elise ?

    Well, Hollie, Skylar, Josh are a group.  So are Phillip and Colton.  And I think Elise probably hang more with the guys.  Truth be told, Elise probably will be on the chopping block next week.  And I don’t think she will be happy how that all came about.

  • heartly

    This probably has to do with my earlier post about the summer tour with The Fray.

    On Air/Ryan Seacrest ?@OnAirWithRyan

    Tomorrow we have @Kelly_Clarkson on the show with a BIG announcement! Any guesses?

  • Anonymous

    Are you talking about this denim shirt?? :)

    DiamondChristy

    ? @christy0907
    Here is the second pages of the article. http://pic.twitter.com/jrEtDEkt

    http://i44.tinypic.com/2ih026o.jpg

  • too-cool-for-school

    Even the likes of Shirley Halperin from THR has a thing for Phillip Phillips.

    That creepy lady that was kind of a weirdo to Kris in an interview lately? My apologies to Phillip Phillips.

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    Yes, definitely preference, lol. To me, Scotty’s sameness every single song made him annoying and forgettable and very far from talented whereas Haley was flexible and emotional. He could sing in tune but that’s about it.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    So funny. I simply love how Scotty can do any kind of song from the dead serious to rocking to humourour to very funny, and nail every one of them. :) Jimmy did call him subtle. I get that subtly, and the frequent twinkle in his eye. But that’s also what my family (I have four sons) is like.

    As for emotions, I can’t listen to “Clear as Day” (the song) or “Dirty Dishes” without feeling teary….

  • Anonymous

    Its a different genre but I would say Kellie Picklar has had a good career also
    for a known winner not quite Daughtery but almost.

  • Anonymous

    Just looking at that pic on another site – agreed it was the shirt he wore when he sang “ONE” on Idol.  (Boy keeps his clothes.)

  • Anonymous

    He was 26 and he’s pale with a mass of freckles.

  • Anonymous

    “No plans” was said humorously and everybody laughed.  

    His responses about country music are just very funny.

  • Anonymous

    Some think this pic was taken at the edge of his home’s infinity pool in LA.  Wherever it was, it’s a knockout.
    (Toes are big on twitter now.)

  • Anonymous

    I believe Simon Cowell had a major influence over the years on who would win Idol.  I caught the show every now and then until season 8, but I did notice on those times viewing how everyone waited for that moment when Simon gave his blessing on a performance.  It made for good television and it also influenced the audience in studio as well as the television viewers.  I, myself, had been caught up in many of those moments and clapped with glee that King Simon approved, especially if it was a favorite of mine.  But, then people started to get angry, hated the blatant bussing of some contestants, the overt manipulation, America started thinking for themselves. That said, I still think Simon could very well have influenced a Season 9 female winner if Crystal played the game better.  But she didn’t, making the misstep of talking back to Simon and refusing to hit those glory notes “just becasue she was on Idol”.  Simon began to back Lee DeWyze and we saw the end result of that.   Another factor is the voting fanbase — these fanbases work for these contestants and work hard.  They are voting the entire time they are allowed to vote.  If “you” are not willing to devote that effort for your favorite, then you can not complain about who wins or doesn’t win.  And that effort continues well after Idol with radio polls and internet polls, et al.  You need to be fanatical about your favorite contestant.  One or two votes aren’t going to cut it.  Jessica has almost the same amount of twitter followers as Phillip and Colton now.  If those 160,000 + followers aren’t willing to vote, to put in that extra effort for Jessica than it will be their loss.  It comes down to that. 

  • getgetaway

    That said, I still think Simon could very well have influenced a Season 9 female winner if Crystal played the game better. But she didn’t, making the misstep of talking back to Simon and refusing to hit those glory notes “just becasue she was on Idol”. Simon began to back Lee DeWyze and we saw the end result of that.

    Actually Crystal was favored to win Season 9.  Not Lee.  But it became obvious that she was going to be difficult to handle.  And by then, it was too late and they had no choice to back Lee.  She eventually had public battles with Jive regarding her album, which I don’t think was the smartest thing to do as a new artist – at least not take it publically like she did.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    http://i44.tinypic.com/2ih026o.jpg

    Oh wow I love that pic of Adam, LOL he’s walking on water.

  • Anonymous

    Yes.. that was the pool at his home in LA. There’s a pic on the other site that showing the pool and the view of LA. (Toes?? LOL)

  • Anonymous

    Oh my goodness. That is a hot pic of Adam walking on water? This was a Russian magazine right? Wow, what long legs you have Mr Lambert!

  • Anonymous

    That is a beautiful picture if Adam, and the fact that it is showing up on Idol blogs and his fan sites is a perfect illustration of why it is difficult for girls to win Idol these days.

  • gferna

    I taught Adam how to walk on water.  It’s easy…

  • Anonymous

    Kris & KAB Rehearsal:

    Bigdaddysays:
    “Hour 10 of rehearsal day 1… #bigdaddyonellen #thankyoucamellia” 

    http://instagr.am/p/JduFugTTLC/ 

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that’s an incredible Adam pic. I have to ask, is that the denim shirt from his “One” performance on AI?

  • Anonymous
  • gferna
  • Anonymous

    Kelly’s touring with The Fray this summer?

  • Anonymous

    Think the other one is the deluxe.

  • asifclueless

     Holy sh*t!!! THAT PHOTO!!!
    I agree … Kayla and thanks a bunch for this gorgeous photo.

    “Oh wow I love that pic of Adam, LOL he’s walking on water.”

    I’m DED!!!  You guys carry on……..

    http://i44.tinypic.com/2ih026o.jpg

  • shell29

    Jessica is the Pia of this year. Perfect vocalist that just seems to have trouble making a huge connection with the viewers.

    I don’t get the Jessica/Pia comparisons at all.  Jessica is not even the same style of singer as Pia.  This was Jessica’s first week in the bottom three-that’s not enough evidence to me that she’s not making a “connection” with the viewers.  I think voter complacency (assuming that she’d be “safe” and not voting) + a lot of voters coming to Hollie’s rescue after what seemed to be an “unfair” critique is what landed Jessica in the bottom of the votes.

    If there’s one contestant who doesn’t seem to be connecting with the viewers, it’s Elise.  A “pimp spot” performance, praise from the judges and she still lands in the bottom three (and has been a “bottom three” dweller for much of this season)?  Her days are clearly numbered.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! That is a very stylized album cover. Very “Sin City”. I see what they were going for, but I MUCH prefer the deluxe edition cover.

  • Anonymous

    Also, Jessica is a far better singer than Pia was on American Idol. Pia was anything but perfect. She couldn’t sing uptempo, had unimaginative phrasing and had a tendency to be shrill in her upper range.

  • Karen C

      I think voter complacency (assuming that she’d be “safe” and not voting) + a lot of voters coming to Hollie’s rescue after what seemed to be an “unfair” critique is what landed Jessica in the bottom of the votes.

    If this is true, then it should motivate her fans to vote for her, and she should be safe.  And she can still do really well if she does.  And I think Jimmy Iovines statements comparing Hollie to Jessica had something to do with this, because it made Jessica seem safe.

    I agree about Elise, even though she’s my favorite. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    Wow! That is a very stylized album cover. Very “Sin City”. I see what they were going for, but I MUCH prefer the deluxe edition cover.

    I totally see the Sin City vibe, love it. Actually, I prefer this cover and the whole sort of comic book antihero style along with the vertical title, but since I want ALL THE MUSICS I’m definitely still going for the deluxe version anyway.

    I normally buy digital music, Adam’s one of the very few artists I would bother to buy CDs for, so I haven’t paid attention — does anyone know if an artist has both a standard and deluxe CD if they sell them both in places like Walmart and Best Buy? Retail shelf space is so limited these days.

  • Westlife 2007

    Let me tell you, the one who would sell the most records this time next year is Skylar Lane. She has the voice & the personality. It doesn’t hurt that she’s the only country singer in Top 13 this year. And I’m not saying as fan of Skylar because I’m not really one.

    People keep acting like Jessica is the next big thing. Well, I’m not sure of that. Especially if they’re gonna give her materials which sound exactly like what Celine Dion or Mariah Carey sings. I’m not even sure if she would even be as successful as Charice, who has the same big voice but her album only appeared shortly on the Billboard Top 10 & then fell like a rock….

  • http://twitter.com/capsuleneo Neo

    If you are an Idol contestant, you are not just playing to win votes, you are playing to win over the enthusiasm of the label, the media, the industry to achieve commercial success. Winning doesn’t automatically grant you all those things.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

     You need to reread the article.

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