American Idol Headlines for 01/11/11

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Today’s Idol Appearances

  • Paula Abdul appears on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson, CBS 12:35/11:35c
  • Paula Abdul appears on the Ellen Degeneres Show

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Bo Bice will be playing in the 3rd Annual Reckless Kelly Celebrity Softball Jam on May 1st in Round Rock, TX! For more information click here www.rkcsj.org

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You’ll be able to see Carrie Underwood’s film debut in Soul Surfer a week earlier than anticipated. According to the movie’s official website, Soul Surfer open in theaters on April 8, a week earlier than the previously announced April 15 release date.

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We should be getting more concrete info on the new season of American Idol when the producers meet with press today at the Television Critics Association winter press tour today.

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More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

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Paisley, Underwood get special (CMOH) treatment

Hosts with the Most: Brad Paisley and Carrie Underwood, a spotlight exhibit featuring stage costumes worn by Paisley and Underwood when they hosted the 2010 Country Music Association Awards last November, will open Jan. 18 at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum.

The exhibit will feature a black ensemble worn by Paisley, including a John Richmond jacket with gold-beaded lapels; and a pleated tulle ballerina dress, embellished with 15,000 rhinestones, worn by Underwood. The gown was designed by Georges Chakra, who used a traditional Turkish embroidery technique called sarma that was highly prized in the court of the Ottoman Empire.

Read more at the Country Standard Time

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Remixing American Idol

Nine years ago, a brutally honest record exec named Simon Cowell was so vicious as a judge on a new musical talent show that a few performers he rudely rejected came after him with baseball bats. Fellow judge Paula Abdul was so put out by his rough treatment of young singers that at one point during the first season, she stormed off the set threatening to quit. The third judge, Randy Jackson, once could be seen standing up angrily behind the judges’ table, looking like he was going to clobber Cowell.

Read more at TV Guide

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CLAIM: Will Smith to Be An ‘X Factor’ Judge

According to the Mirror, Cowell thinks Smith and purported judge Cheryl Cole “will be a brilliant formula” when the show begins in the U.S.

Really? That’s what Cowell thinks?

Funny, because a rep for Smith tells Gossip Cop exclusively that there is “no truth” to the story.

Read more at Gossip Cop

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dLife Top 10 Awards Honor Those Making a Difference in Diabetes

Who made the biggest difference to people living with diabetes over the last year? dLife is asking the diabetes community to cast their votes in the dLife Top 10 Awards for the nominee of their choice. The winner will earn a special guest appearance on dLifeTV, a nationally broadcast show on CNBC, as well as exposure and recognition on dLife.com, the number-one diabetes Website.

The nominees include:

Crystal Bowersox, is a singer-songwriter who gained notoriety as runner-up in the ninth season of Fox network’s American Idol despite battling blood sugars that skyrocketed to 400 during competition. She now advocates for government policy changes for people who cannot afford to pay for their diabetes supplies.

Read more at PR Newswire

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‘Idol’ Season 10: Are judges worried about being judged?

Forget the singers for now. The first performers likely to be judged in Season 10 of American Idol are the judges themselves: newcomers Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler and the last original, Randy Jackson.

They don’t sound stressed about being in the spotlight on TV’s No. 1 show, returning Jan. 19 (Fox, 8 ET/PT).

“None of us are taking it so crazy, like the pressure. That’s not what we’re thinking about,” Lopez says. “Steven, Randy and I, we’re at points in our careers where we can sit there and enjoy the experience. We’re concentrating on these kids and finding somebody great and making this interesting and fun. I think what this show lost in the last couple of years was fun.”

Read more at USA Today

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Q&A with the three ‘American Idol’ judges, host Seacrest

As Fox’s American Idol enters its 10th season (Jan. 19, 8 ET/PT), the new panel — Randy Jackson, Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler — and host Ryan Seacrest talk to USA TODAY about the new season, their involvement and their chemistry

Read more at USA Today

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Vocal Coach Debra Byrd Looks Back at a Decade of ‘American Idol’

THR: The season 9 contestants have taken quite a beating in the press these last few months and haven’t really been able to relish in the post-season glory of Idol. Do you feel bad for them?

Byrd: I think I felt badly for them when they were in the season. [laughs] The thing is, they weren’t the only season that people said sucked. There are highs and lows to everything. But let me say this: It’s hard to follow the season of Adam Lambert. Like, what do you do next? Do you set yourself on fire? However, my other theory is, if Adam Lambert had been in season one, he would not have survived. Because we weren’t looking for that in season one. The show was so new, he wouldn’t have made it.

THR: What’s your take on the new judges?

Byrd: They have great chemistry. I’m also noticing that Randy seems to be a bit more comfortable. And I love what Jennifer Lopez brings to the show. Even when she was mentoring, she was succinct and her comments were very helpful. I thought that she got right to the point. And when I heard that she was coming on board, I said, “That makes perfect sense.” It just felt right. She bring that glamour. And Steven Tyler, I love that he has this thing where he’ll sing to the contestant. From what I’ve seen so far, and I’ve only been around them for Hollywood week, they seem to have great chemistry, but I can’t wait until we get inside the show to see how it evolves even more.

Read more at THR

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Randy Jackson Claims ‘You’re Gonna Love’ The New American Idol Judges

As American Idol fever builds in the run-up to January 19th’s season 10 premiere, the show’s longest-running judge, Randy Jackson, is doing his best to help fuel the media buzz and audience anticipation.

In an exclusive video interview with RadarOnline.com, Randy spills on the upcoming season and insists that when it comes to the new judges, Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler, the audience are ‘gonna love ‘em’.

See the video at RadarOnline

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American Idol Winner Taylor Hicks Hosts ‘Gong Show’ on Jam Cruise

Having been a passenger on Jam Cruise in his pre-Idol days, Hicks was invited on the cruise this year as a roaming artist, encouraged to sit in with as many of the bands as possible. And, of course, to host the unofficial, loose version of the Gong Show. “It’s kinda funny, because you can draw some similarities between a gong and an Idol,” Hicks tells PopEater. “Now that Simon’s not with Idol anymore, I think you should just replace Simon with a gong. ‘Amateur Night at the Apollo’ had a siren — Idol should have a gong now. You know what? In my opinion, if they put a gong on Idol, it would ring all the time.”

Read more at Popeater

 
  • ozarko

    Archie is on a J-14 ad inside a special collector’s edition of a Twilight magazine called “The Real Boys of Eclipse.” I get a kick out of the fact that it prominently features David, much more so than Joe Jonas. :D

    http://tinyurl.com/4g248q4

  • wordnerdarchie

    I love Debra Byrd. Thank you for your work with David Cook. ;)

    http://bit.ly/eqZn3t

  • ladymadonna

    I adore Byrd – I always cheer when she makes her appearance in Hollywood week. She has such a classy, tough-love approach to working with the contestants, and I think she has done an amazing job of helping some of them not only survive but evolve and shine through the meatgrinder that is Idol.

    I’m looking forward to Rushfield and Halperin’s upcoming Idol books, and I’m sure we have the inevitable Seacrest and Cowell memoirs to look forward to. But what I really want is an account of Idol from the perspective of some of the below-the-line folks like Bryd and Michael Orland, Miles Siggins and Ricky MInor. These people have a much more important hand in developing the contestants into viable personalities and recording artists than the judges do. I’d love to hear more of their war stories as Idol heads gentle into that good night (or rage, rages against the dying of the light..).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Funny, because a rep for Smith tells Gossip Cop exclusively that there is “no truth” to the story.

    Smith is NOT going to be a judge on “X Factor.”

    Didn’t think so. I wouldn’t be surprised if Willow performed on the show at some point though.

  • Joyed

    I remember hearing a lot from on the scene people about how much the Idol staff adored and believed in Adam, and Byrd makes it very clear that this is true – kinda cool to hear her perspective on that.

    In some places in the Q&A, it felt like Byrd was towing the company line about the 15 yr olds, but it is true that experience is not the same as age. We’ll see if that truly plays out this season.

    But what I really want is an account of Idol from the perspective of some of the below-the-line folks like Bryd and Michael Orland, Miles Siggins and Ricky Minor.

    I would LOVE to read something like that! Michael Orland at least has some very long interview videos he posted on YouTube where he talks about how he came to be on idol. He doesn’t exactly dish the dirt, but he describes the early years on the show really vividly – and you can tell that some of his fave people off the show came from within the first few seasons (i.e. Kimberly Locke).

    ETA.

    On twitter, songwriter Chris DeStefano posted:

    Yes, a great day writing with @thebenmoody @hodgesmusic @thedavidcook. Killer.

    Some people wondered yesterday whether Hodges was writing separately with Cook or in one session with all of the writers in that tweet, so mystery solved – they all wrote together in the same session.

  • ladymadonna

    And here’s how Byrd helped turn Cook from fodder to frontrunner in the third week of the semi-finals:

    Don’t look at the camera David, look through it.

    (Of course the brill arrangement and killer vocal sure didn’t hurt).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nice interview with Debra Byrd. I would love to hear more from her (and others behind-the-scenes at Idol) about the process of developing the contestants’ potential, both vocally and image-wise. I’m really not interested in reading any memoirs from any judges.

  • mmb

    Lol thank you Debra! By top 11/12 cook was my favorite but in the beginning he was kinda creepy looking- the hair, the clothes. It was all awful. But then came the haircut and the better clothes and voilà!

    I suspect that TPTB may have also had a hand in adams ever shorter hair during the season.

    I always enjoy hearing the behind the scenes folks perspective.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    Carrie underwood is gonna be in soul surfer? Awesome!!!

    Just because the judges are new,that doesn’t mean all the focus should be on them

  • tinawina

    I love Debra Byrd. Thank you for your work with David Cook. ;)

    http://bit.ly/eqZn3t

    Cute article! LMAO@ the fanwarring in the comments… it never ends! LOL

    I am very curious about Carrie’s acting skills. She seems to have decent comic timing at least.

    OF COURSE Will Smith is not going to be an XFactor judge. Duh.

  • aa618892

    I love what Debra Byrd said about Adam and David C. I agree that Adam would not have made it very far is S1 but thank God we were ready (somewhat) in S8!!!

  • Incipit

    Some people wondered yesterday whether Hodges was writing separately with Cook or in one session with all of the writers in that tweet, so mystery solved – they all wrote together in the same session.

    Heh. Joyed – you certainly got here first with that one. I just saw it. Occam’s Razor after all. Good to know. Next question, who are they writing for? That one will be harder to answer – but cool that David is getting to do what he wanted to do – and continue to use and refine his songwriting skills.

    IMO.

  • koshka

    That was really interesting about what Debra Byrd said about cook. I’m going to have to go back and look at photos as the season progressed.

  • ladymadonna

    That was really interesting about what Debra Byrd said about cook. I’m going to have to go back and look at photos as the season progressed

    Photos won’t help you see it really – watch vids of the first four performance weeks and it will be more clear. It wasn’t about clothes or hair (that came later), it was the way Cook was interacting with the camera. Dave and Debra have both said before in interviews that the breakthrough came between All Right Now and Hello (weeks 2 and 3), where Byrd helped Dave realize he needed to let his guard down and look through the camera in order to make a connection with the audience. It worked.

  • koshka

    Thanks Ladymadonna – I’ll do a search.

    ETA: oh I see now. He had a bit of the Constantine Skeevy-ness. He also looked a 100% better with his make over.

  • BootStar

    Shirley Halperin plus Debra Byrd: Doesn’t get any better than that. Great interview that actually included previously unknown information!

    Cute article! LMAO@ the fanwarring in the comments… it never ends! LOL

    Seriously, I think that’s pretty much one person (or an organized effort) creating a “fanwar” to make all Idol fans appear crazy.

  • Trina

    When you look at David from Hollywood week or say Billie Jean, then look at him the last 2-3 weeks to his win the difference in his looks is downright scary! It doesn’t even look like the same person

    Does anyone remember the interview Byrd gave a couple of years ago where she highlighted certain idols from over the years that really had an an effect on her? IIRC she mentioned David then too. That’s so cool to hear how she helped him. Boy was a bit of a mess early on! I do think he was on TPTB’s radars talent wise early on since he was pimped in TWO commercials..I bet his appearance hurt him though from really getting much media attention.

    ETA: here’s the interview, she said he stunned her the first time she heard him and also singles out Carrie, Kelly, Chris, Elliott, Fantasia and Latoya
    http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/features/peterson/20080509-9999-1c09karla.html

  • Mary102

    ETA: here’s the interview, she said he stunned her the first time she heard him and also singles out Carrie, Kelly, Chris, Elliott, Fantasia and Latoya
    http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/features/peterson/20080509-9999-1c09karla.html

    I was gonna say – what?! No Adam?! Until I looked at the date – May 2008. LOL.

  • sma11ie

    I’d heard Cook’s short version of how Byrd helped him sing to the camera a few times, but I loved hearing the full story from Byrd!

    “What about David Cook?” She said, “I don’t like him, he reminds me of a stalker.” Huh?

    LMAO, that is EXACTLY what happened with most people I know, myself included. He was so creepy and for whatever reason, unlikeable at first, and then Hello happened and I was like, wha? If you look back at the AI.com and TWOP and other boards, it was a pretty common theme. Cook was singing well, but no one cared because he was not getting any fans. If Hello hadn’t happened, he would’ve been voted off pretty quickly.

    It’s interesting how Idol now has a full-time in house mentor (Iovine) who’s supposed to do that job (help contestants perform better on camera), when Debra had been doing it unofficially for years, on top of her actual job of vocal coach. Hopefully, Iovine has Debra’s eye for talent and can help even more contestants the way Debra helped Cook.

  • lorismile

    It’s hard to follow the season of Adam Lambert

    Awwww….this made me all kinds of happy today!!

  • Truthiness

    From all accounts, Debra Byrd is tres cool, and she certainly seems so from that article. Of course that she has nice things to say about Cookie and Adam, is always the way to my good side. But I also like what she had to say about Fanty, JHud, and Daughtry. Agreed with her on all of that, as well.

  • Chicagolaw

    Aw, love Debra Byrd. Very cool interview.

  • bridgette12

    I am glad when Idol was making changes and trying to improve show, that they didn’t try to replace Debra with someone else. She’s so good at her job and I certainly think the Idols over the years have benefited from her coaching.

  • Joyed

    I miss the AI side shows that used to air where they interviewed people like Byrd on the contestants – we used to hear interesting stuff from that sometimes.

    He was so creepy and for whatever reason, unlikeable at first, and then Hello happened and I was like, wha?

    Haha – Cook was one of my favorites (along with Archuleta and Brooke) from Hollywood week. However, I just realized that he was probably aided in my favoritism because I tend not to look at the TV when I watch idol, just listen. However, for “Hello” I definitely remember looking at my TV:)

  • smeggingnuts

    Cute article! LMAO@ the fanwarring in the comments… it never ends! LOL

    haha my favorite was the “I heard it on Twitter” bit LMAO

  • isisdagmar

    THR: The season 9 contestants have taken quite a beating in the press these last few months and haven’t really been able to relish in the post-season glory of Idol. Do you feel bad for them?

    Byrd: I think I felt badly for them when they were in the season. [laughs] The thing is, they weren’t the only season that people said sucked. There are highs and lows to everything. But let me say this: It’s hard to follow the season of Adam Lambert. Like, what do you do next? Do you set yourself on fire? However, my other theory is, if Adam Lambert had been in season one, he would not have survived. Because we weren’t looking for that in season one. The show was so new, he wouldn’t have made it.

    THR: And Adam’s post-Idol success has been nothing short of extraordinary.

    Byrd: I never doubted it. You could see it when he was on Idol — this is a guy who was prepared. I think he said this was the last chance he could audition, because of his age, and he and other contestants were really smart about how they presented themselves to the planet. Consequentially, he’s made some missteps, but I’m very grateful that he’s been able to bounce back, so I applaud him. Because he’s very talented, very unique, and I think the music world needs him. I really do. Yes, he’s had a great year, and I’m glad for him.

    aw. :D And true. :)

  • Elliegrll

    According to a tweet, Allison was tracking vocals in a studio in Florida yesterday:

    Big3Studios
    Gracing our Studio A with her amazing vocals, American Idol (Season 8) Top 4 Finalist Allison Iraheta spent all day here yesterday!

  • sma11ie

    Randy, from USAToday’s Q&A:

    Q: Has Idol had trouble producing recording stars the past few years?
    A: I’ve been saying since Day 1 that for the sale of any record or anything, whether (it’s) coffee, salt, shoes or doughnuts, it needs to be great in order for people to put their hands in their pockets and put down money. If the songs aren’t great, no one’s buying. And that’s what you’ve been seeing the last couple years. These records just haven’t been great. People make the misstep of thinking when you win Idol, you win some kind of golden ticket to sell 1 or 2 million records. You win the chance to jump into the ring to compete.

    I understand it was a leading question, but I really don’t think Randy is qualified to say those things. Yes, record sales from Idols haven’t been through the roof in recent years, but can you HONESTLY say it’s simply because the songs are not good enough, or that it’s because the Idols have some sort of entitlement problem where they aren’t working hard enough and resting on their laurels post-Idol? I doubt Randy’s even listened to half the records that have come out in the last couple years. Randy worked with Brooke White on her album and he clearly believes in her, her songs, and knows she’s been working really hard and not treating AI as a golden ticket– so Brooke hasn’t become a recording star JUST because of the songs? I mean. Jeez.

    From the TVguide article:

    “Without Simon, there is blood in the water,” says one rival TV executive who spoke only on condition of anonymity. “We expect a big tune-in for the first couple of shows, out of curiosity. But after that, we think the ratings are going to drop at least 25 percent.”

    I can’t believe competing networks are really expecting an over 25% drop in ratings this season! No way!

    In other news, Ken Warwick needs to stop talking. And not allowed to make any stupid decisions. I read the full EW article with the AI judges and Ryan, and there’s a sidebar with quotes from Ken, where he basically said he hated the guitars last season, and that every week, it was like “plunka-plunka-plunk”. Um… glad to hear you’re so well-versed in musical terms, Ken. He basically said this season, contestants will be VERY limited in their use of instruments, probably not more than once or twice. WHAT!? Sure, S9 suffered from too many mediocre vocalists/bad performers playing the guitar every week and not showing us anything new/exciting… but the contestants as a group were unexciting- DON’T blame it on the instruments! Ugh. UGH.

  • isisdagmar

    Big3Studios
    Gracing our Studio A with her amazing vocals, American Idol (Season Top 4 Finalist Allison Iraheta spent all day here yesterday!

    I’d love to get new music from Allison without the constraints of them trying to make her this weird miley-with-a-dash-of-pink pop princess–her voice is incredible.

  • Joyed

    sma11ie, all really good points. Besides, if anything it was the labels that thought they had a golden ticket if the singer won idol, not the singer.

    Also it will be really interesting to see what the ratings do – I am fine with Simon gone, because I have always been more interested in the contestants, but that isn’t true for a lot of people. I think last year suffered due to bad judging chemistry (what an awkward panel that was with Ellen feeling like an outsider, Kara in desperation to save her job, and Simon not caring at all since he was on his way out – Randy was just being Randy). I think last year’s contestants were also affected by this, as well as really limited song choices.

    If they fix those 2 things, I think the show can still be very popular.

  • Elliegrll

    I understand it was a leading question, but I really don’t think Randy is qualified to say those things. Yes, record sales from Idols haven’t been through the roof in recent years, but can you HONESTLY say it’s simply because the songs are not good enough, or that it’s because the Idols have some sort of entitlement problem

    All of the idol alums have sold more units than he did with his duets cd, or with the group that he produced last year. I wonder if he thinks that he was too entitled or the product wasn’t good enough, and that’s why those side projects didn’t do well.

  • girlygirl

    According to my instructor, Randy is hopeful that this year’s contestants are better than last year’s. But unlike what he’s been saying in the media, he’s not certain that they are.

  • Sydia

    Awwwe Cook a stalker? I wish.

  • girlygirl

    I’ve never heard any Idol say they thought they had it made after winning or even being the runner-up on AI. In fact, both Adam and Kris have been quoted multiple times as saying all AI does is give them an opportunity to get a record deal, and it is up to them on how to take advantage of that opportunity and hopefully build a career. That doesn’t sound like either oft them expected to automatically sell zillions of records. I wold bet that if I bothered to look, I would find similar quotes from Kelly, Carrie, David Cook, etc etc. Maybe there is the occasional contestant who thinks that way, but in general, these people seem to have good heads on there shoulders and understand that winning or finishing high on AI guarantees you nothing other than you (usually) get signed.

  • Keel

    Haha – Cook was one of my favorites (along with Archuleta and Brooke) from Hollywood week. However, I just realized that he was probably aided in my favoritism because I tend not to look at the TV when I watch idol, just listen.

    Hah! Aint’t that the truth! I remember one of the posts on TWoP in the early days of S7 when one of the posters said something along the lines of “I really like this guy (Cook) but only when I don’t look at my TV.” He was definitely hobbled by his looks — in the early rounds.

  • windmills

    girlygirl: According to my instructor, Randy is hopeful that this year’s contestants are better than last year’s. But unlike what he’s been saying in the media, he’s not certain that they are.

    Very interesting. I respect that it can be hard to tell who’s going to be able to bring it with songs they’re just learning and playing in front of a full band based on a cappella auditions, group sings, and performances of prepared songs with a small band. But I thought this year they were trying to prepare them more. Thanks for the report girlygirl.

  • luly

    Album sales are about much more than quality(and the top selling albums are not always masterpieces). Things like hype, promotion, the right singles and being in the right place in the right time play a big part. And I completely disagree that the sales has anything to do with people working less hard. I don’t think that the albums in the recent years that sold less are because the idol that made them work less hard or because the albums were less good.

  • windmills

    Maybe it’s just me but I didn’t think Randy was actually saying the Idols have an entitlement problem. I think it was his poorly worded way of saying people expect Idols to sell 1 to 2 million because they were on the show. IOW I think in his quote his “you” refers to the Idols and his “people” refers to the media/public.

  • tinawina

    girlygirl: According to my instructor, Randy is hopeful that this year’s contestants are better than last year’s. But unlike what he’s been saying in the media, he’s not certain that they are.

    Hmmmm. Interesting.

    At least they know that they need good contestants. That’s a start.

    The thing is, people can be just fine all through the auditions and totally tank when they get to the live TV rounds. So you never know!

    Album sales are about much more than quality(and the top selling albums are not always masterpieces). Things like hype, promotion, the right singles and being in the right place in the right time play a big part.

    Yeah, I agree.

    If anything, I would say the last few years have suffered from a lack of smash singles combined with a persona that people buy into on a mass level. People have frequently had one or the other lately, but not both.

    Maybe it’s just me but I didn’t think Randy was actually saying the Idols have an entitlement problem. I think it was his poorly worded way of saying people expect Idols to sell 1 to 2 million because they were on the show. IOW I think in his quote his “you” refers to the Idols and his “people” refers to the media/public.

    I think you may be right.

  • Mark

    Yeah, I agree.

    If anything, I would say the last few years have suffered from a lack of smash singles combined with a persona that is people buy into on a mass level. People have frequently had one or the other lately, but not both.

    Pretty much. And even that might be overgeneralizing, given just how fickle the means of distribution and hype are.

    In any event, still wishing Randy would shut up and disappear permanently off my radar.

  • isisdagmar

    girlygirl:
    01/11/2011 at 1:39 pm
    According to my instructor,

    Hey girlygirl, you mentioned that your instructor talked a lot about Adam and how his career was blowing up or something–if you care to share, I’d be interested to hear more of that. :)

  • car

    I think it is people like Randy and idol who have given the impression that an idol win will result is millions of sales. Then they pass that on as if the winner thought that when they did not. It would really help if they would stop the adds about the superstar and change it to something else. They set up unrealistic expectations in the public and media. I am in no way a Lee fan, but I feel that he has taken a beating for this. Idol cannot make you a superstar or make the public buy you albums or attend your concerts. It gives you an opportunity and that is all.

  • tinawina

    Pretty much. And even that might be overgeneralizing, given just how fickle the means of distribution and hype are.

    True dat. So many things come into play, and there is an amount of arbitrariness to hype, in that you can’t always predict who the industry and media will latch on too. Not to mention who 19 will love and consequently push the snot out of. LOL

  • girlygirl

    isisdagmar

    there isn’t really much more to say. He was talking about some of the people he had worked with and about people who were getting some industry buzz. he was just saying how talented Adam is and how he’s found success quickly.

  • Joyed

    In any event, still wishing Randy would shut up and disappear permanently off my radar.

    Haha, Mark – I feel like this is a continuation of our conversation from the other week ;)

    Randy is hopeful that this year’s contestants are better than last year’s. But unlike what he’s been saying in the media, he’s not certain that they are.

    Thanks for the intel, girlygirl, really interesting (hope we get to hear more stories from your class). However, I wouldn’t think that this would mean too much. I don’t think the show has ever lacked in talent – I just think some years it lacks savvy contestants – ones who understand how to pick songs that mean something to them AND the audience. Who understand how to raise the bar every week, and how to be a TV personality.

    Those things tend to emerge later in the show, so Randy’s early impressions of talent are essentially meaningless until the show goes live and they have to perform for TV, IMO.

  • bridgette12

    What I think the judges and producers of American Idol need to do, is simply shut up with their predictions. The contestants have enough pressure on them, without being the saviors of the American Idol franchise. These contestants are being given all kinds of advantages over the Idols from previous years, so it’s going to be expected for them to be good and star quality from the beginning. So critics are going to say there is no excuse for bad performances. That’s a lot of extra pressure, that they really don’t need.

  • sma11ie

    I wold bet that if I bothered to look, I would find similar quotes from Kelly, Carrie, David Cook,

    Yes to all three. Kelly said as much as recently as in that American Idol Welcome Home video. David Cook specifically said Idol was NOT a golden ticket as immediately as the night of his win– literally, minutes after he won, he told the press that he could walk out and it would be over, but the work started “now” (post-win). Carrie’s talked at length about having to work hard and pay her dues and win over people right after her win.

    if anything it was the labels that thought they had a golden ticket if the singer won idol, not the singer.

    I think it was his poorly worded way of saying people expect Idols to sell 1 to 2 million because they were on the show. IOW I think in his quote his “you” refers to the Idols and his “people” refers to the media/public.

    Hmm… you might be right, but then the guy REALLY needs to check himself when he’s being interviewed and quoted. Or like Mark said, shut up, lol. “Poorly worded” is like, his MO. Gah.

  • Mark

    Haha, Mark – I feel like this is a continuation of our conversation from the other week ;)

    I’ll totally own my status as the #1 Randy Jackson hater on MJ’s. :)

    (LOL. I should have thought twice about word choice)

    Thanks for the intel, girlygirl, really interesting (hope we get to hear more stories from your class). However, I wouldn’t think that this would mean too much. I don’t think the show has ever lacked in talent – I just think some years it lacks savvy contestants – ones who understand how to pick songs that mean something to them AND the audience. Who understand how to raise the bar every week, and how to be a TV personality.

    This, so much. Well, S1 is semi-debatable, insofar as its talent was great in a couple of contestants and awful for everyone else. But, generally, seasons don’t suffer because of talent issues.

  • windmills

    sma11ie: Based on the Randy quote from today that’s in the new post about the TCA interviews your interpretation was the right one. Never mind me trying to make Randy not sound as bad!

  • sma11ie

    LOL, windmills, I just posted as much in the TCA thread! You were giving him too much credit =P…

  • luly

    I really don’t get why instead of pointing out the achievements of so many past idol contestans, the idol producers are trying to make them look bad. Idol can actually help their past contestants. They can play their songs on the show, they can mention when different idols have albums or go to tours. I just odn’t see how the show is benefiting from talking bad about past contestants.

  • Milly21

    LOL i love Debra. “what do u do after the season of Adam Lambert? Do you set yourself on fire?” LMFAO!

    anyways i think these judges and producers have to stop putting people down. its so irritating. dont blame the contestants for being bad, blame yourselves for choosing them in the first place!

  • Mark

    I really don’t get why instead of pointing out the achievements of so many past idol contestans, the idol producers are trying to make them look bad. Idol can actually help their past contestants. They can play their songs on the show, they can mention when different idols have albums or go to tours. I just odn’t see how the show is benefiting from talking bad about past contestants.

    Of course. But the show would actually have to have some taste for that, and maybe some basic sense to go with it.

    The show does feed heavily on the post-Idol horse race. Thing is, that happens regardless of its involvement, and the show’s editorializing about it is only likely to turn people off or give people ammunition against the show. And it certainly doesn’t help the acts involved.

  • Mary102

    girlygirl:
    01/11/2011 at 1:39 pm
    According to my instructor, Randy is hopeful that this year’s contestants are better than last year’s. But unlike what he’s been saying in the media, he’s not certain that they are.

    LMAO! That’s great! Thank you for sharing. This reminds me of the spin Randy puts on every new season, that it’s the BEST YET! With the BEST TALENT EVER! Good to hear the truth behind that spin, though, lol

  • bridgette12

    luly:
    01/11/2011 at 3:56 pm
    I really don’t get why instead of pointing out the achievements of so many past idol contestans, the idol producers are trying to make them look bad. Idol can actually help their past contestants. They can play their songs on the show, they can mention when different idols have albums or go to tours. I just odn’t see how the show is benefiting from talking bad about past contestants

    I think the show is trying to get people interested in the future instead of relying on what’s happened in the past for good PR. The Producers, especially the savior(Nigel), knows what a horrible year season 9 was the show. The brand and the ratings took a big hit and they want to gain back the fans and some excitement, because the show really had become lackluster. I don’t think the show can get away from mentioning the previous Idols, especially all the winners, since it’s going to be the tenth anniversary of the show.

  • luly

    bridgette1-But why would they think that insulting many of the people who watched the show In the previous seasons or try to make previous seasons look bad will make more people interested in the show?

  • girlygirl

    Yeah the producers (especially Ken Warrick) don’t seem to get that by insulting some of the previous contestants he is insulting the viewers who voted for those contestants. Not exactly the way to earn voter loyalty.

  • gangreen29

    Yeah the producers (especially Ken Warrick) don’t seem to get that by insulting some of the previous contestants he is insulting the viewers who voted for those contestants.

    People shouldn’t take things so personally.

  • artemis

    Perhaps “people shouldn’t take things so personally” but the fact is that they do. Idol producers should take care not to turn off their most loyal viewers, because I doubt huge numbers of new viewers will be flocking to the show to take their place.
    Most finalists coming off the show are going to have an uphill climb to make it in the music business-TPTB should do everything they can to help.

  • bridgette12

    artemis:
    01/11/2011 at 8:47 pm
    Most finalists coming off the show are going to have an uphill climb to make it in the music business-TPTB should do everything they can to help.

    How much more do the TPTB have to do for everyone to be happy. These contestants get to perform before over 20,000,000 people a week and then go on a arena size tour, while doing interviews in each city visited. What more do poeple expect TPTB to do. Somewhere alone, the contestant has to take responsibility for their success or failure.

  • ItsMyT1me

    TPTB should do everything they can to help

    What more do people expect TPTB to do.

    I’d say start with a little civility and humility. The problem with the last two seasons was not the contestants. It was the producers and judges. Who put the contestants through? Who picked lame ass themes and limited the contestants to a handful of overused songs? Who came up that crazy season eight top 36 format that saw only 2 people get through each week and then let the judges pick 5 of the public’s castoffs to populate a top 13? Who invented the save that put someone back in the competition that the public voted off? Who allowed the judges to make season 9 about them instead of the contestants with whom they’d been entrusted? Who wanted to watch Kara and Simon argue over which genre any given contestant should sing instead of critiquing the performance? I (obviously) could go on and on. I’m glad they are reworking the format because after what the judges and producers have done to the show in the last 2 years, it sorely needs it. I just hope when the live shows start, season 10 doesn’t become all about the new judges. With JLo and STy on the panel, and the limiting of instruments, manipulation (I mean mentoring) by a professional, etc. there’s a pretty reasonable chance that the contestants will once again be overlooked.

  • erl

    I think Ken Warwick might want to reconsider biting the hand that feeds. How does American get it wrong, by punching in the wrong numbers when dialing or texting and voting for a contestant they didn’t intend to vote for? If America gets it wrong, then take America out of the show.

  • ross

    I think other people may have mentioned something like this before, but anyhow, I went to a mall on saturday night and I was there about four hours, and the whole time, on all the overhead TVs, (one about every 50 feet, maybe) they were showing the same two Idol ads over and over. The judges giving out gold tickets, and Lee DeWyze’s segment from the Idol homecoming ads. (Ending with the line, “Every superstar begins with a dream.”)

    So that doesn’t strike me as a desire to distance themselves from Season 9 or its winner, or the past in general.

    I think Ken Warwick might want to reconsider biting the hand that feeds. How does American get it wrong, by punching in the wrong numbers when dialing or texting and voting for a contestant they didn’t intend to vote for? If America gets it wrong, then take America out of the show.

    The hubris of some of these people is so great they think they can question the audience’s decisions. The whole show is based on the audience’s decisions. “You stupid people, we tried to manipulate your votes but we failed! But stay tuned while we try again! And keep on voting! Excuse us if we keep on ignoring the way you vote! Thanks for watching! Drink Coke!!”

  • CindyM

    Who came up that crazy season eight top 36 format that saw only 2 people get through each week and then let the judges pick 5 of the public’s castoffs to populate a top 13?

    During Season 8, three people were put through each week in the semifinal rounds, not two. The top male and female contestants and then the next highest vote getter, male or female. The judges then selected 4 wildcards and 2 were eliminated the first week.

  • ItsMyT1me

    4, 5, whatever. The point is that the judges had way too much influence in seating 13, not 12 as was scripted. As far as who got eliminated, Jasmine and Jorge went the first week and Jorge was not a wild card. Megan, Anoop, and Matt were the other wild cards and they went out something like 9, 6 and 5, so with the exception of Jasmine, the judges plants make it pretty far (got to go on tour). But then again, Matt was saved by the judges. Wasn’t he supposed to go out 7th? The judges stacked the deck with contestants that the public did not vote for, then continued to push their favorites in anything-but-subtle ways. This is no dig whatsoever against the Top 4 because I truly believe they SOOOO far outclassed everyone else in season 8 in talent. But just because of the massive, overt manipulation of the judges, I was not distressed that their first chosen one, Danny, didn’t get to the finals and that their second chosen one, Adam, didn’t win. This is why season 8 was my least favorite season of Idol. Like season 9, it’s nothing against the contestants, just the judges and producers.

    Okay, sorry, rant over. Like most everyone, I’ll give season 10 a chance because, truthfully, I don’t think it can be any worse than my expectations for it.

  • erl

    “You stupid people, …” That really is what it sounds like they are saying, ross. Unbelieveable.