Ellen Degeneres Vows to Help Angela Martin Get Signed – VIDEO

Beleaguered Idol reject, Angela Martin, dropped in to chat with Ellen Degeneres on her talk show this morning.

Girlfriend has had some bad luck, missing a spot in the Idol Top 24 by a hair is the least of it.

After Angela performed “Superwoman”, I’m not gonna lie, I teared up a little when Ellen sprung a surprise–Kara DioGuardi is going to produce and write a song for Angela. “We’re going to get you a record label” promised Ellen…

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  • rayni

    Yay!!!! This may be better than being on Idol. Go Ellen!

  • itsalleternal

    Problem is, all contestants are under contract until August 26 and would only be able to get signed through 19E until then. If they signed Angela, that would be unprecedented for 19E to pick up someone that far down the ladder.

  • champ

    she’s great, but i don’t understand why they’re doing this… if they love her so much why wasn’t she put through on the show?

    very happy for her though!

  • itsalleternal

    she’s great, but i don’t understand why they’re doing this… if they love her so much why wasn’t she put through on the show?

    very happy for her though!

    The producers must have hated her, and worked to overrule the judges.

  • HeidiL

    Angela’s version of Superwoman was fantastic. She should have made the top 24 easily. This is so sweet of Ellen! I love her! I just hope the song is better than “No Boundaries” .

  • tinawina

    OMG that made me cry. I hope they get her a deal.

  • Nina1

    This was just so great!!! Congratulations and thanks, Kara and Ellen. Both of you are menschniks (Plural for mensch???), who make miracles happen! My sense is that some choices for the final 24 have to do with producer pressure and I would not be surprised if that is why Haely was chosen. Ellen looked distinctly miserable when Kara was consoling Angela Martin, although I noticed that only Randy chimed in that she was a “great singer.”

  • J9BT

    she’s great, but i don’t understand why they’re doing this… if they love her so much why wasn’t she put through on the show?

    very happy for her though!

    I’ve been torn apart over this, almost as much as when Alexis Grace was voted out before Top 10 last year!

    One theory is they wanted drama/controversy for the show for ratings purposes, and/or for Ellen’s show (or both!) and used this as one way to get it.

    I love her voice and personality, and hope this break works for her.

  • agathe.hb

    J9BT, do you think they could be so devious? wow….
    or maybe they are really trying to get a Taylor Swift kind of girl and they put as many guitar chicks there as possible, to at least one could come out a winner? I don’t know…..

  • Pixie Baker

    Okay, this is what life is all about!! We spend too much time highlighting the negative in this world and have so much power to make things better for good people! Ellen is one terrific woman (and Kara)….and this video has made my day! Good luck to Angela…she deserves a break….and I get the feeling she will embrace this with all that she has in her!
    BTW, Kara is a talented woman…..maybe NB was not her best but she has had some great songs! IMO, Adam’s Strut is just one of them!!!

  • Pixie Baker

    One theory is they wanted drama/controversy for the show for ratings purposes, and/or for Ellen’s show (or both!) and used this as one way to get it

    This IMHO is wrong on sooooo many levels…*sigh*

  • gangreen29

    she’s great, but i don’t understand why they’re doing this… if they love her so much why wasn’t she put through on the show?

    Because maybe someone who lost her father while trying out for the show and then her mother disappears when she is auditioning for the show might be too fragile to handle the extreme pressure of the show? I would hope that they learned with Danny Gokey that it isn’t healthy for people to try and heal in front of 30 million people every week.

  • auntieaimee

    Happy to hear this! Many people (me included) were bitterly disappointed to see that she was cut. I think Angela is very talented and I wish her all the success in the world.

  • progression

    Problem is, all contestants are under contract until August 26 and would only be able to get signed through 19E until then

    19 can release her if they want to. That’s what happened with Michael Johns in S7. Given that two judges are involved with this, that’s probably already in the works.

  • tierbee

    Yeah, I totally shed some tears. I’m rooting for Angela, hope good things come her way!

  • movin2thabeet

    I was furious when Angela was not chosen to be in the Top 24. Her voice is way better and ready for the big-time than many of the girls chosen, PLUS she has that coveted backstory, PLUS she is an attractive woman who looks great on TV, PLUS she has a winning positive personality. Seemed like a no-brainer to me. All I can think is that the producers have already decided what ‘type’ they want to win this year, and Angela could have put a crimp in their plans by topping their pool of potentials. I usually don’t go in for conspiracy theories, but thats the only conclusion that makes any sense here. Even that doesn’t fly with the fact that she, with all her camera time, did seem like she was a chosen one. Does she have something lurking in her closet that producers didn’t want to deal with?

    I have no idea. All I know is – “Thank you, Ellen!” This is what the show is supposed to be about – helping a super talented person get a a start. I hope she’s wildly successful and I can easily picture it happening. Its a bypass around AI, but maybe its a wakeup call to the show, especially if she ends up being really successful. I wonder how the producers are feeling about what Ellen and Kara are doing. Are they pissed or supportive?

  • Mtlfan

    I’m rooting for her. Maybe they realized that they made a mistake in her case. The cynic in me tends to see this whole “not selected for top 24 but we want to give you a career” as an opportunity for making some tv ratings here

  • sonyab

    WOW!! YAY!!!! Thank you Ellen and Kara!!!!!!! Great great great news!!!!! :) Angela you are going to go far!!!! :)

    Now Ellen please help Chris Golightly! :)

  • alli lurker

    Note to future idol wannabe’s: Be sure to break the law and spend a few days in the slammer before you show up for your audition. It might just get you a recording contract! I think Ellen needs to toughen up. She’s gonna see and hear many sad stories on this show. She can’t help them all. Although I’m sure its really hard to do, she needs to distance herself from these people (unless it really is all about publicity!)

    It’s interesting that of the Top 4 on Season 8, only one had a sad back story. Angela might want to think about going country…

  • stardust462

    Because maybe someone who lost her father while trying out for the show and then her mother disappears when she is auditioning for the show might be too fragile to handle the extreme pressure of the show? I would hope that they learned with Danny Gokey that it isn’t healthy for people to try and heal in front of 30 million people every week.

    I totally agree.

    I think Angela ended up becoming a special case for the show and the producers. She made it to Hollywood twice before, and both times ended up not being able to continue, not eliminated by the judges, IIRC. I bet she would have made the semis in either of those seasons. Because of that she became easily recognizable and had the back stories of her daughter and her father. Then the stories came out about her mother.

    IMO, I think in a way Idol became “beneath” her. Not in the sense that she was better or deserved to win more than anyone else, but because so much focus, more so than any other contestant this season, has been put on her that it really would have given her an unfair advantage. I think the level of focus on her is more than any other contestant, and AI got a lot of criticism for that last year, especially with Danny. I think they wanted to avoid that this year, and because Angela has been through so much the past few years maybe they thought she shouldn’t have to go through the process and likely be eliminated, or even worse viewer backlash from her back stories.

    That being said, I love what Ellen and Kara are doing for Angela. She deserves it. I think competing on Idol is, in a way, “beneath” her now.

  • tinawina

    Note to future idol wannabe’s: Be sure to break the law and spend a few days in the slammer before you show up for your audition. It might just get you a recording contract!

    Oh come on, the girl had parking tickets. She’s not exactly a hardened criminal. LOL

  • cookcricket

    This is wonderful! Ellen even seemed a little confused as to why they didn’t put her through, something or other about what Simon said. I do think it has something to do with finding a guitar playing girl.

    I also agree that this is so much better for her than being on idol! I am looking forward to hearing her song/album!

  • TwigLA

    I’m very happy for Angela that she’s going to get this break and I don’t think it will take long for that record deal to happen. I felt when I first saw her sing that she could win it all. I think that is the reason she didn’t make the Top 24. They’re looking for a girl singer to win, but not this particular brand of girl singer.

    Kudos to Ellen and Kara for helping to make it happen for her. I wish Angela only the best and good things do come to good people.

  • cakeygirl

    this is good. im sure they didnt put her through becuz she didnt fit the “casting” of the show lol….if put thru, she may have been a threat to the taylor-swift like girls that they want to win bc of her backstory

  • windmills

    Kara please write an awesome song for Angela that’s the foot in the door she needs. I hope this is part of a healing journey for Angela and her family.

  • girlygirl

    Well Kara is an A&R exec for Warner Bros. Records, right? So maybe they will sign her. I think Angela is very talented, but she still has to prove that she deserves a recording deal. In addition to whatever song ara writes for her, she needs to record a few other songs to have a true demo to send around to the labels. Having Kara & Ellen on her side is a nice boost that will get her in the door of these places, anyway.

  • idolfanpage

    Angela Martin is really the only non top-12 contestant I knew I would remember after the show. America didn’t fall in love with her because she had been through some tough times. It was how she responded to those tough times. She didn’t become jaded and bitter the way Golighty did after he was DQed. Her voice is great – and on her voice alone – I still think she should have made top 24 at least. But her personality is even better.

  • Nina1

    Note to future idol wannabe’s: Be sure to break the law and spend a few days in the slammer before you show up for your audition. It might just get you a recording contract!

    Sheesh, that’s harsh. I once could’ve gone to jail for not paying parking tickets in SF, because they eventually do turn into arrest warrants. I was lucky; the judge reduced the amount from $700 to $100. I got the tickets because I was sick with hepatitis and unable to move the car across the street on street sweeping days. You don’t have to be a criminal to accrue charges you can’t afford.

    If Idol did not want to put Angela through because of her current problems, they could have broken their own rules and let her try out next year. Her case was truly unique and while a tragedy could have happened for Angela during the season, letting her compete again would have been the charitable thing to do.

    I can not see this a ratings plot for Ellen, can’t even go there. It is just terrific she is in a position to redress wrongs. I certainly never expected to see cast-offs from the top 46 turn up on her show. Both she and Kara have demonstrated heart. I’m just not cynical enough to suspect an ulterior motive.

  • tierbee

    Note to future idol wannabe’s: Be sure to break the law and spend a few days in the slammer before you show up for your audition.

    LOL, I think I can forgive her for getting parking tickets and not being able to afford to pay them off. Plus she missed *last* year because of her tickets, it wasn’t right before she auditioned this year. I wish her the best. And I’m glad Ellen is a softie if it gives people like Angela a chance :)

  • sonyab

    idolfanpage:

    She didn’t become jaded and bitter the way Golighty did after he was DQed.

    Huh?! Chris did? How do you know that? Have you talked to him?

  • romeo

    J9BT:
    02/19/2010 at 11:13 am

    One theory is they wanted drama/controversy for the show for ratings purposes, and/or for Ellen’s show (or both!) and used this as one way to get it.

    The first thing I thought of was how smart it was for Ellen (and Idol) to apparently negotiate that she can have EX contestants on her show and ditto Kara being able to utilize the cross promotion.

    Amazing thing the music machine. Idol, Kara and Ellen all win with that. Adam interviewed you don’t get “discovered” any more without an already established fan following so I guess his words were more than accurate for that time. LOL if she gets signed for just being a contestant omg.

    And the music biz is smart to finally utilize other media for the artists, like Red Carpet Fashion commentary – Adam, Movie appearances – Carrie, Clorox contests – Danny, Missionary work or whatever it is – Kris, etc.

    Tommy Lee and the others on Rockstar promised to produce Dilanna and never did so we’ll see what happens here. It’s personally not sitting right with me IDEK why. Too incestuous and backroom for my tastes.

  • dreamz

    Idol is foremost a Television show, not a singing competition. Idols formula ALWAYS includes the top 24 and top 12 as a very mixed cast of characters that include all sizes, colors, ethnicity, hair color, body size, singing style etc. If there’s too many of a type they usually go. Big Mike fit one type, the other big guy went home. It is not always about singing.

    Also, Angela’s current story of missing mom is still questionable — why is she missing? Drugs? Mental Illness? If so, this is NOT the kind of story Idol wants coming out mid season.

    It’s nice what Ellen’s doing, but as a judge on the show, it sends the wrong message to contestants. Conflict of interest.

  • JudyL

    Ellen is a judge on Idol now. Her daytime show should be off limits to what happens on Idol. This is wrong on so many levels. Why was this done in such a blatant manner? If she wanted to help Angela behind the scenes, that would be good but this crossover between her daytime show and American Idol is wrong. I wish Angela nothing but the best but there are much more appropriate ways for Ellen to help.

  • colette

    Idols formula ALWAYS includes the top 24 and top 12 as a very mixed cast of characters that include all sizes, colors, ethnicity, hair color, body size, singing style etc. If there’s too many of a type they usually go. Big Mike fit one type, the other big guy went home. It is not always about singing.

    Dreamz — I agree this is true, and I was really sorry to see that sweet young Mama’s boy (who I think had a superior voice) go home instead of Big Mike, who is just OK vocally.

    However, baby, that’s show biz! The show isn’t entirely a talent contest, as we die-hards have noticed, it’s also about “casting a narrative” – different types, looks, etc.

    I’m just glad that the female beauty standard wasn’t as tight as in recent years. The Haleys (and to some degree the Syeshas) always turn out to be disappointing, because the glam only gets you so far. But Idol wants to mix it up to get lots a demographics hooked. Example: Mr. Park. more Asian Americans, especially Korean Americans, will likely get into this year’s shows because of his presence. (and lucky for us all, he’s one of the best vocally..)

  • Nina1

    It’s nice what Ellen’s doing, but as a judge on the show, it sends the wrong message to contestants. Conflict of interest.

    Well, if it is a conflict of interest for Ellen, it is also a conflict of interest for Kara. And if it is a conflict of interest for Kara, it should have been a conflict of interest for Randy to produce Brooke White. Sometimes, good stuff happens.

  • TwigLA

    Ellen has brought cast off Idol contestants on her show in the past. Remember Josiah Lemming in Season 7? Ellen brought him on after he was cut in Hollywood and championed him. He ended up signing with Warner Records.

    She’ll have to walk a fine line this year on her show to not show favoritism for anyone still in the competition. I think she’s up to the responsibility.

  • zoya

    WTF? Honestly there should be at least 24 people better suited for a record deal then Angela. I’m not saying there are but if a judge on Idol thinks that Angela is prepared for a record deal but not for competing on the show they make a joke out of Idol. Or maybe judges have no say in who goes through to the next round but than slapping producers in the face after being on the show for a month isn’t the best idea either.

  • jammasta

    I almost teared up at my college after Angela’s great performance and Ellen’s surprise for her. Would’ve been nice to see her on the show, but I don’t see any ulterior motive in Ellen or Kara (Although to be honest, I’d be more suspicious if Simon had something to do with it >_>). It might work in a more interesting way, a part of me is saying that it’ll be better for Angela because she’s not competing with the other contestants for America’s love, but she will still be competing in the music industry…..

    The part that has me worried is that it’s Kara writing the song (No NoBo, please) and if it would’ve been better for Angela’s exposure to actually be in the top 24 (most likely yes, but there might be some advantages she has now that she isn’t on the show anymore).

  • TwigLA

    JudyL:
    02/19/2010 at 12:53 pm
    Ellen is a judge on Idol now. Her daytime show should be off limits to what happens on Idol. This is wrong on so many levels. Why was this done in such a blatant manner? If she wanted to help Angela behind the scenes, that would be good but this crossover between her daytime show and American Idol is wrong. I wish Angela nothing but the best but there are much more appropriate ways for Ellen to help.

    Judy,

    If we are to follow your thoughts on this, then Simon, Randy, Kara, Ryan, etc. shouldn’t be allowed to appear on talk shows or radio interviews either. They shouldn’t be allowed to give opinions on any of the contestants outside of when they are actually judging. Ryan should quit his radio gig because he has too much influence over the outcome both on the show and after the show is over pimping his favorites.

    Anybody who was on the show as a contestant shouldn’t be allowed to appear on FOX LA or any other Fox news show after they are cast off. That’s a conflict of interest.

    Now isn’t that silly?

  • flyaway

    She reminds me of Melinda Dolittle who was far and away the best vocal talent of her season. Glad Ellen is able to help.

  • sunny2

    I have a theory that Kara and Ellen wanted her to stay, but Simon and Randy said no. Simon’s vote is the tie breaker. So Ellen and Kara took matters into their own hands and did this for her. Ellen did say that she was shocked during Hollywood week at how mean Simon was. This seemed very mean. Angela is much better that a couple of the girls that got through, and her story is truly heart-breaking.

    I hope that all the people upset with Angela not being in the top 24 will support her music.

  • martha

    I think maybe AI wanted her, but was concerned the show schedule might be ‘interrupted’ by issues and events happening affecting a contestant, as well as influence of voting-sympathy vs talent. Rather than deal the the issue, choose someone else for the show. Could be, but with Ellen’s help ( see how things work out ! ) she is going to be alright.

  • luval

    JudyL I agree with you. Ellen and her day job should be totally separate from her night job. Don’t get it…don’t get Angela Martin…Nothing new or different. I Don’t care about her back story. Ellen should have done this AFTER idol was over if she wanted. Now I have secnd thoughts about her as a judge. She probably was one of the “yes” votes, but hey, life is tough. Now we’ll have to wonder whether the contestants back stories influence their votes. Hope not. It’s a singing competition as Simon always says.

  • Lu

    Oh my gosh… tears! I love Ellen!!! I will be waiting for Angela’s music. I love her voice. She sings with such emotion – understandably so. Good for her. I love a happy ending.

  • sunny2

    Ellen and her day job should be totally separate from her night job.

    I disagree, I’m sure Ellen was hired due to the cross promotion she can do for AI. Why do you think Ryan gets the big bucks? It’s not for his frosted tips, it’s because he has a nationally syndicated radio show that can help promote Idol as well.

    There may be an issue of fairness, but I’m a sucker for happy endings and thought it was unfair she didn’t get through.

  • movin2thabeet

    Ellen and her show is so popular exactly because of things like this. She uses her show to promote artists she excited about, not just those who are doing the circuit. See Simon’s remarks on this. She, and Kara, loved Angela, both for her voice and her personality, and wanted to use their power to help her out. I think thats great. We need more of that in the world, not less. Who knows what really happened on the show? It does seem that at least Ellen and Kara voted for Angela. We also know that Simon has now said he would have made different decisions on the Top 24 if he had more time. It’s water under the bridge at this point, and thankfully, Angela now looks like she has a solid boat to ride which hopefully leads to a better life.

  • bjames

    I thought Angela sounded GREAT on Idol, but it wasn’t anything I haven’t heard before. Her story is great for TV–That’s why Idol should’ve kept her on. However, I see a tough time ahead for Angela trying to have any kind of life-changing success in the music business. It’s just tough out there.

  • SarahP

    i really dont care about who has the ulterior motive and who hasn’t and whether ellen and/or kara should be allowed to exploit someone. ultimately, angela martin, one of the many whose had it rough , does get a chance to do something worthwhile and after all that she’s been through, i think she deserves it.

    really happy right now and hoping angela’s well-deserved break works out for her ok

  • lucy

    I felt horrible for Angela and am really glad she is going to get a boost from somewhere.

    That said, I wonder if Ellen has thoroughly thought through the kind of precedent she’s kind of setting here. Seems as if I were one of the 20 to 22 of the top 24 who goes through my Idol experience and didn’t get signed, I might be pretty likely to try to hit Ellen up for some help with my future, too. Nothing wrong with that, certainly, but I can see her having to hire an extra person to handle all the calls and emails.

  • Ratna12

    Ellen and her day job should be totally separate from her night job.

    I think it is OK for Ellen to promote someone after they are out from Idol (or never in), but hopefully she won’t actively just mention certain people still in the show; that is totally unfair to the others. There is a big difference of Simon / Randy going to talk shows promoting someones (although I don’t agree w/ this too)and Ellen promoting someone – Ellen has her own show w/ huge followers.
    And I’m glad for Angela, she doesn’t have to have a big success, just small one to change her life.

  • Mary102

    I thought Angela sounded GREAT on Idol, but it wasn’t anything I haven’t heard before. Her story is great for TV–That’s why Idol should’ve kept her on. However, I see a tough time ahead for Angela trying to have any kind of life-changing success in the music business. It’s just tough out there.

    This was my take as well. I was surprised Angela didn’t make the Top 24, even from way back when she auditioned this year, simply because it was like a better version of the Lacey story, or Twitch on SYTYCD – contestants falling short in previous years, and finally coming back and succeeding because they didn’t give up on the dream. Not making it, I’m glad Ellen and Kara stepped up to help her.

    I still wish she would have made Top 24, though. I think her story was very powerful, and she would have been a great one to root for.

  • IdolThoughts

    I think it’s fantastic. It doesn’t hurt anyone else’s chances, it doesn’t hurt anyone else’s career. It doesn’t change anything that happens on Idol. But, it may very well change this girl’s life. What a great thing! She’ll still have to sell records…no one can do that for her. I am all for her getting her chance to shine. The fact that Idol can lead to opportunities for people on any level is great. Keep in mind that this girl beat out a TON of people nationwide to get to where she got. She definitely deserves this and I do not see a conflict of interest whatsoever. I see Idol widening the berth of capabilities to produce and promote new artists. Kudos to Ellen, Idol and Miss Angela!!!

  • goobersnotch

    Wow, you people are acting as if the judges had any actual say in whether Angela Martin got in through the top 24 or not. Here’s a hint: the producers are the ones that pick the top 24. Angela Martin was deliberately not chosen because she had a serious chance of ousting the chosen ones in the competition. It’s the same reason why the girl with the paralyzed face was excluded from the top 24 even though she clearly showed to be a better singer than a fodder like Katelyn Epperly. Why were girls like Paige Miles and Michelle Delamor added? Or boys like Joe Munoz and Alex Lambert? Because they’re just cannon fodder to be voted out so the producers’ picks get through.

    Angela Martin’s 4th chance with Ellen and Kara seems to be done more out of pity than anything else. She has been struck with tragedy three years in a row, and she has a disabled child. Of course the judges are going to feel bad about her.

  • jammasta

    Personally, I wouldn’t mind Ellen having the other eliminated contestants come to her show for more promotion. Isn’t she also having Shelby Dressel on her show soon? I felt bad when she was cut, too. I kinda didn’t want Chris Golightly in the top 24, but maybe Ellen should put him on, too >_>.

  • alxsavage

    I don’t see anything wrong with this. Angela is talented, and putting aside her back story, she deserves a shot doing what she loves. If someone wants to give her the chance, what’s wrong with that?

    It doesn’t beat being on the Top 24. Idol gives you a fan base, even if it is a small one, and of course, all the exposure she won’t be getting. It’s totally fair for Angela, and it doesn’t hurt anybody. She’ll have to earn that recording contract with a very good demo anyway.

    I know that I might be a very naive Idol viewer. I feel we’ve heard a larger percentage of the Top 24 than any previous season. But who do you guys think are the producer’s “chosen ones”? I’m honestly curious about this.

  • sylvanaire

    Well, I think it is a lovely thing Ellen and Kara are doing for Angela; she deserves a break for sure. I don’t see any ulterior motives here, sorry. Some people are just nice, you know? Nothing more or less than that.

    Having said that, Angela still has a long row to hoe. Having a song written for her, even if it is “Sober” instead of “NoBo”, is only the very first, beginning, baby steps of a career in music. Look how far Allison got last year, all the way to Top 4 with all the attending exposure, and how hard she is still struggling to get noticed, and to sell records. So it’s not like Ellen and Kara are handing Angela anything on a plate. She will still have a long slog ahead of her to get the general public to pay attention. But a chance is more than she had without E & K, so I’m glad this has happened. Hope is a powerful thing. Yay, Angela!

    And I agree with whoever it was upthread who said she reminds them of Melinda Doolittle. Mindydoo has the better voice between the two imo, but the attitude, and the style of singing are reminiscent of each other I think. I would be happy if she could have as much success as Melinda.

  • jack5791

    This is just great news. Angela really deserved to be in the Top 24 and she really needs some good luck right now. She has a long road to go but she needs just some kind of break and I really hope everything works out for her. I LOVE her.

  • Pixie Baker

    Is that true????…that the producers pick the kids that go through????
    The judges sure looked like they were really working hard to pick the top 24. And Lu, I totally agree with you! Pix

  • zoya

    Angela Martin was deliberately not chosen because she had a serious chance of ousting the chosen ones in the competition.

    I don’t buy into these conspiracy theories that people are chosen just for fodder. It’s a tv show and they want to show the best. Because they’re so good at heart? Of course not. But a singing show is better with people that can sing. They might exclude someone with better voice for some comic entertainment like Norman but I don’t believe they watch at 2 girls with both solid voices and say, let’s put the weaker trough so a third girl will be a frontrunner. It just doesn’t make sense.

  • bigjr6633

    Yes the producers pick who’s in the top 24. The judges have some say but overall it’s the producers. Like goobersnotch said, love the name btw, lol, Angela wasn’t picked because she would pose a threat to their chosen ones, this show isn’t about talent it’s about whoever the show wants and is pimping at the time and Angela wasn’t one of those ppl. Considering Angela’s story has basically been synonymous with the show for 3 seasons now, she would be popular beyond relief and everyone would root for her thereby taking out their favorites. I like watching this show but it kills me how they treat contestants and pass on really talented ppl cause it doesn’t fit their agenda that season. Anyway hopefully Angela becomes really successful and shove it in this show’s face and her tone does remind me of Melinda.

    BTW, I really do think Angela could’ve won this season and that’s why she wasn’t picked because they don’t want someone like Angela to win this year.

  • Mark

    I don’t buy into these conspiracy theories that people are chosen just for fodder. It’s a tv show and they want to show the best. Because they’re so good at heart? Of course not. But a singing show is better with people that can sing. They might exclude someone with better voice for some comic entertainment like Norman but I don’t believe they watch at 2 girls with both solid voices and say, let’s put the weaker trough so a third girl will be a frontrunner. It just doesn’t make sense.

    The show does consciously try to establish tiers, though. Whether that’s the producers or the judges is really ambiguous (what evidence do we have that it’s the producers, not counting Simon Cowell who always kind of has been one in practice?), but they intentionally put through weaker singers so that people can be knocked off with impunity while the real competitors get to establish a line of performances. There is a Cowell quote on that, but I wouldn’t be able to know where to find it.

    It’s easily justified, though, through the question of diversity. This is a TV show, but it’s easy enough to say, “alright, we need to put in a slew of different kind of singers in order to appease everyone”, and the results have basically affirmed that. Now, I’m not really sure why they didn’t put Angela in; she was probably not a threat to the TCO, even with her story, and it seems bizarre that they didn’t. Wanting to avoid a Danny Gokey backlash is a possibility, I guess, and it’d be awkward for her not to do well on the show. Who knows?

  • Yui

    I feel happy for Angela.

    I sorta get why they didn’t put her through tho. like others have said its the producers ultimate choice, and right now it has been suggested that they want a taylor-swift type (i.e. Haeley, Janelle, etc) and this is probably why they chose Haeley over someone like Tori as well. But with Angela’s background she would definitely pose a threat to the chosen ones, and can you imagine how awkward it would be for the judges to critique Angela knowing everything that has happened to her?

  • Truthiness

    Darn that dust! It uhhh, got in my eye. Uh yeah.

    Well I think she should have been in the top 24 above some others. But glad she got this and wish her nothing, but the best. If anyone deserves a break at this point, it’s her.

  • zoya

    The show does consciously try to establish tiers, though. Whether that’s the producers or the judges is really ambiguous (what evidence do we have that it’s the producers, not counting Simon Cowell who always kind of has been one in practice?), but they intentionally put through weaker singers so that people can be knocked off with impunity while the real competitors get to establish a line of performances. There is a Cowell quote on that, but I wouldn’t be able to know where to find it.

    I’d really like to see that quote that they are intentionally putting weaker singers so they wouldn’t endanger their favourites. I don’t even remember how Angela sang, but if they put her trough there’d be just as many complaints that the sole reason for this was her sob story.
    Sure they have favourites, but that doesn’t mean they will still be their favourite 3 episodes from now (Lil anybody?) and it’s good for the show to see some people unexpectedly emerge (Allen, Cook). With giving spots to 4 favourites and the rest just bad singers so not to endanger anyone and if the favourites wouldn’t live to their expectations they would have serious problems. Sure they’d like a new Taylor but if after 7 shows there wouldn’t be a Taylor but another Beyonce or Lady Gaga they surely wouldn’t mind.
    I’m not saying only best voices are in 24. They look at the whole package. I truly believe they put in the semifinals the people they believe have the most chances of being the package deal. They have more faith in some than the others but I’m sure they thought whoever got in place of Angela has more chances to succeed. In the end, success is good for the show.

  • Mark

    I’d really like to see that quote that they are intentionally putting weaker singers so they wouldn’t endanger their favourites. I don’t even remember how Angela sang, but if they put her trough there’d be just as many complaints that the sole reason for this was her sob story.

    Well, it wasn’t so much “we don’t put through singers who threaten the TCO” as “we put through singers who are complete and utter nightmares because they’re characters for the show”. (“Complete and utter nightmare” happens to be a reference, in Simon’s words, to Brenna Gethers, who he then said he liked because she was who she was. Read between the lines). And even in that same article, he basically references the personalities over the show over any singing ability, and not in a way that suggests personality as a successful pop artist. I wish I could find something more direct on the “putting through 24 good singers is boring”, but all I found was an indirect reference on WNTS.com (from which I pulled the Gethers quote). Mind you, in that season was Gina Glocksen attempt one, who, while not perfect, is much better than Brenna in any way that matters in reference to the competition.

    So, no, I wouldn’t call their motives complete in putting through the 24 best potential pop artists. It’s a TV show, and they stack it as such.

    Now, I really don’t get why they didn’t put Angela in; there aren’t that many singers like Angela this year, she has a great backstory (oh, and how Idol loves those!), and she has significant vocal talent completely worthy of this year’s group. So why is she not in? It’s honestly not that clear to me. I don’t buy it’s an issue of the TCO just year, but the reasoning in any context seems off.

  • sonyab

    Truthiness:

    Darn that dust! It uhhh, got in my eye. Uh yeah.

    That damn dust! *hands you a hanky* :)

  • SpenserJ

    Darn that dust! It uhhh, got in my eye. Uh yeah.

    Well I think she should have been in the top 24 above some others. But glad she got this and wish her nothing, but the best. If anyone deserves a break at this point, it’s her.

    Ditto ditto ditto. When I first read about her ouster in the spoilers, I said I couldn’t bring myself to watch her get cut after all she’s been through. And, I didn’t. The episode is still on my DVR, but I’m a coward. It’s hard to see someone get hurt and disappointed when you know it’s just another in a long line of hardships. I know it’s just a silly tv talent show, but I can’t help it. Angela’s situation is so extreme.

    I wish her whatever good fortune she may be able to find. And, I think it is a kindness for both Ellen & Kara to help her.

  • PattyH

    I just love Ellen. That is all! :)

  • Idolnewby

    I really pity people who buy in to all these conspiracy theories. Aren’t you just killing your enjoyment of the show? Maybe it’s because if these off the wall theories went away no one would have anything to talk about!

  • http://mollyblogsidol.wordpress.com Molly (aka sparklesgirl2)

    I sort of feel like Angela’s story is one that can succeed on its own, outside of Idol — and perhaps that was recognized from within Idol. The Idol folks knew she probably couldn’t win the competition, so they cut her so she could be free to pursue something on her own. 19 will probably sign her on their own and make a shitload of money — and then also have their American Idol this year to boot. Two wins for them. And a win for Angela. And for Ellen. And for Kara, in their quest to make Kara into the nice judge.

  • Grammie Kari

    The irony of it all. On Wednesday, I said I hope Kara remembers Angela when there is a need for a back-up singer. I am very happy for her. I think Angela must be a sweet person and they wanted to at least give her a break. This is a good move. There may have been some circumstances we don’t know about regarding her not being in the TOP 24.

    I guess I am in a minority who thinks Kara was sincere.

    I know the producers are the ones who come up with the “cast list of characters”; however, Simon is one of the producers so his input has always been there.

  • arkhail

    The part that has me worried is that it’s Kara writing the song (No NoBo,

    yeah, Kara may have done a very bad song but that was just one song, or maybe more but, she’s written a couple of good songs and has a credit over some of the successful songs in contemporary music as well. i am not saying this because i like her or something, i am just sick with how narrow-minded most people are. maybe, Kara is not the most enjoyable judge in the panel but she has done some great contribution in music, a fact that most people tend to over-look at. it’s a nice move to produce a song, and it is just a song, for one person who has struggled enough but hasn’t been able to get a break. maybe this time, it is a great song and hopefully a hit one, she’ll write. :)

  • cher

    I am so pleased with Ellen and Kara. Ellen had me in tears today. I had commented a couple nights ago how depressed I was when Angela was cut. She has a very good voice, is attractive, always well put together and very likeable. That’s why I love Ellen. She always tries to help others that deserve it. Much success to Angela and her sweet daughter. Such a happy story for a change. :) :) :) Great b/day present for me. Made my day. Soooo nice.

  • zoya

    Well, it wasn’t so much “we don’t put through singers who threaten the TCO” as “we put through singers who are complete and utter nightmares because they’re characters for the show”.

    I already mentioned that. He was certainly talking about Norman. They might put in someone like him, but in his place they will cut the weakest of the remaining 23. I see a big difference putting someone like him in and cutting good singers so their TCO would win.
    To get a little more on topic here. That kid that was cut in season 7, the one living in his car… I’m really glad he got a record. I listened to his song when it was posted here and I loved it. But I’d be just as frustrated if judges helped him get a record as I am with Angela. If you think he/she deserves it, put him in the competition.

  • oceana

    I don’t believe that the judges were just pretending to pick the top 24 for tv’s sake. I really don’t think that Ellen would be a party to such a charade. They were earnestly choosing the ones they thought were the best. They aren’t just liars putting on an act.

    I don’t doubt that the producers have the final say and might make some changes. It is their show after all. It is a tv show, it always has been and always will be. As Kelly Clarkson pointed out a long time ago. “It’s a tv show, folks,” she said, “It’s all scripted.” However to suggest that the judges have no say, that they are just puppets putting on an act for tv, I can’t buy that. The truth is usually in the grey areas.

    I don’t know why Angela didn’t make the top 24. It’s curious. If Kara and Ellen wanted her, why didn’t she make it? Ellen did say that she wished she had fought harder for some contestants. Maybe Randy and Simon said no, and Ellen and/or Kara gave in to them. It’s a tradeoff, you pick your battles, it’s not a science, it’s never going to be perfect.

    Angela shouldn’t have been put through simply because she has a sad story. She sings well, but so do many others who didn’t make it. Out of the tens of thousands who auditioned, many of them sang well. There are a lot of factors that go into whittling the number down to 24. Along the way, some sentimental favorites don’t make it. Probably for a lot of different reasons.

    I don’t know why the producers played Angela up so much just to let her down, and showed it to us. I guess they are trying to create drama. I’m not sure if that kind of drama helps or hurts the show or our perception of it. It was weird, for sure.

  • St.Lucia

    This bothers me.

    First, if Angela was “so great” then why didn’t she make the Top 24 originally? This is like giving her a crappy consolation prize. “I’m sorry you didn’t make the Top 24, but I feel so sorry for you and your horrible life, we are going to have Kara write a crappy song for you and get you a record deal because you didn’t make the Top 24 and we really think you should have.” What the hell. It also bothers me that Ellen(and I love Ellen) decided to put her on her TV show because she was so upset about her not making it. What a burn to all the other contestants with equally as bad of sob stories and way more talent. What’s more special about Angela? That she was rejected more times? That her sob story was more upsetting than others?

    Fact of the matter is, she’s a contestant on American Idol who didn’t make it. It better be one heck of a song because she doesn’t even have a fan base following her, and people who casually watch Idol aren’t going to have a single clue who this person is. Idol contestants, winners or losers, have a hard enough time being successful after the show is over. How do you expect her to succeed when she doesn’t even have a remote fan base? If she was at least on the show she would have made some fans that would have hopefully translated into some album sales whenever she exited the show. It would have at least been a start.

    But now here she is some Idol reject who everyone feels bad for. yes, Angela can sing, but she’s not the next Mary J, and she’s honestly nothing that I haven’t heard before.

    Good luck to her, because she’s going to need it.

  • Sq

    It’s not about the “sob” story – it’s about the pluck to take a hit and keep on trying.

    The girl sings as well as most folk on the radio so why not give her a shot? I just hope Kara can write something decent for her…

    Go Ellen!

  • stingray11214

    OK, folks, it is time for a reality check.

    1) Anyone that believes that the judges make the decisions on American Idol needs their head examined. The PRODUCERS make the choices. The judges are there for entertainment purposes only.

    2) If this was a competition about singing, Ellen would NOT be on it. In fact, you would have a major upheaval in judgeship. The panel would be replaced by highly trained professionals who knew about concert and live performance.

    3) If this was a competition about singing, the tryouts would NOT have TV people doing the auditioning. Crackpots would NOT get through, and you would have a very different dynamic.

    4) Ellen is doing AI to settle a lawsuit with the RIAA. Remember, AI exists, in the words of Simon Cowell, to “find artists that Sony wishes to sign.” Before she signed on to Idol, the RIAA was filing suit against her for copyright infringement, because many songs that were on her show, she did not pay the poper royalties. Notice that the lawsuit was quietly dropped after she signed on to do Idol? It is part of the settlement with Sony. Basically, she is working for free and pushing Idol’s artists on her show. She signed a contract with FOX that basically will pay off the rest of that settlement with the other RIAA labels.

    5) Yeah, Angela is getting a “contract”. That means nothing. It could be a contract where she releases an EP and nothing else. Or, more likely, she will be like Josiah Leming, where the label will “grind” her for two or three years, then put her out there. But, I can guarantee that there will be no immediate impact for her.

    6) Again, if Idol was a game show that conformed to the Communications Act of 1959, Ellen would NOT be allowed to have Idol contestants on her own show. Nor would the judges be permitted to do ANY interviews. They would also have to have an independent auditor tabulating, certifying, and then POSTING the vote totals. This is a scripted TV program that happens to be about a singing competition.

    Finally, American Idol is a MARKETING operation for 19E to break their artists. Angela just does NOT fit their marketing strategy.

    Again, all of this on “Ellen” was to offer the dramatic and for the ratings. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • zoya

    1) Anyone that believes that the judges make the decisions on American Idol needs their head examined. The PRODUCERS make the choices. The judges are there for entertainment purposes only.

    2) If this was a competition about singing, Ellen would NOT be on it. In fact, you would have a major upheaval in judgeship. The panel would be replaced by highly trained professionals who knew about concert and live performance.

    While it’s a valid point that Ellen isn’t a musician, I still believe the judges have a big say in who goes through. If nothing else, I assume Simon’s ego is way to big to only be a muppet and read what the producers tell him to.

  • Parabola

    I think the judges have a say in who makes the Top 24, but the only say? Definitely not. It is a TV show and the producers have their favorites as well, like on any sitcom or drama, and it’s doubtful their wishes are going to go completely ignored.

  • oceana

    1) Anyone that believes that the judges make the decisions on American Idol needs their head examined.

    Tell us how you really feel.

  • carolinacharms

    One of the best moments in the history of the Ellen Show. Period! Bar none. Magical! Fabulous! I loved every, single second of it. From the interview, to Angela’s dynamic and powerful performance, to the heartfelt embrace. Words cannot describe. This made my evening!!!

  • Pixie Baker

    stingray11214:
    02/20/2010 at 2:28 pm

    OK, folks, it is time for a reality check.

    This all is said with such certainty……I always thought the ins and outs of Idol were kind of kept in secret……….

  • Elizabeth Lemon

    What is this rubbish about it being a tough season and that there were just so many good people this year – we couldn’t possibly fit you in Angela! Uh… yeah.

    You can’t tell me that someone as mediocre as Janelle Wheeler is better than this girl. There were plenty of spots that could have gone to her. Not feeling this season at all. Producers wanted their dramatic moment of telling her that her hopes were, once again, crushed and in return picked a few average singers whom they know won’t make it far. Poor Angela… I hope this is sincere and Kara writes her a great song.

  • SybilTrelawney

    I’m glad they did this for Angela — although getting a song from Kara could be a curse as much as a blessing! Let’s hope its not “No Boundaries to the Suckitude II.”

  • mitchellvii

    Ok, and this girl DID NOT make the Top 24, why? Clearly on of the BEST vocalists EVER on that show and she doesn’t even make the top 24? Instead they put through that HORRID SCREECHY BLACK COUNTRY SINGER?

    Good lord, I have NO IDEA.

    I had Angela picked to easily go Top 10.

    The judges are INSANE.

  • Ptnyc34

    stingray11214, Thanks for giving us all a reality check that was totally unnecessary. Maybe you need a reality check since you seem to be under the impression Ellen did this for ratings. LMAO! That’s hilarious!! Like Angela Martin, a girl who wasn’t selected for the top 24 on American Idol is going to be a huge boost in ratings for Ellen. Sorry, I don’t think so, that’s why they book A list actors and musical performers during sweeps. Big name stars bring in bigger ratings, Angela Martin does not! Ellen’s show has always been about making people feel good. Giving Angela even the smallest opportunity to get her foot in the door of the music industry fits with the theme and format of Ellen’s show. Don’t get it twisted.