Idol Sales News – Week Ending 11/21/10

Idol numbers are out and the analysis has begun. To participate in the discussion of Lee’s record breaking first week numbers, please use the thread dedicated to the topic. Let’s keep this thread dedicated to all other numbers so that we don’t splinter the conversation across multiple threads.

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Update: Lee’s number is 39K. Somebody up the line made a rounding error and rounded down to 38 instead of up to 39.
Update: Soundscan Number for Lee: 38, 581

Idol albums

19 Lee DeWyze “Live It Up” 38, 581 (NEW) Total: 38, 596
71 Carrie Underwood “Play On” 12K (-2%; lw 12K ) Total: 1.81M (52)
80 Fantasia “Back to Me” 10K (+5%; lw 5K) Total: 318K (65)
190 Daughtry “Leave This Town” 4K (-3%; lw 4K) Total: 1.187M (140)

A/BGT and Glee:
1 Susan Boyle “The Gift” 334, 505 Total: 631, 058
2 Jackie Evancho “O, Holy Night” 239, 234 Total: 239, 234
8 Glee Cast “Music: Christmas” 161, 198 Total: 161293

Rounded numbers from Brian at Idol Chatter

Non-Idol Downloads:
1 Glee “Forget You” 192K (11 Hot 100)
Glee “Singin’ In the Rain/Umbrella” 140K (18 Hot 100)

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86 Comments

  1. HDD has an early prediction for this week:

    1 Kanye 500K+
    2 Nicki Minaj

    Susan continues to do well

    HDD

  2. Here’s the HDD blurb: (I can never find it on their site)

    GO WEST: Looks like Kanye West and Nicki Minaj will go 1-2 on next week’s HITS album chart. West’s much-acclaimed Roc-A-Fella/IDJ release My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy hit the streets yesterday and looks now like it will break 500k. Meanwhile, Susan Boyle’s The Gift keeps on giving. This week, the Columbia album will repeat at #1, down only about 10-15% from last week’s total of 321k. With Black Friday looming, though, these numbers could all change, so stay tuned. (11/23p)

    Looks like SuBo could hit platinum her third week out. You go girl.
    I actually bought Kanye’s album. The music is kind of amazing even if the cursing and boasting get old.

  3. So, The Beatles released their songs on iTunes. How did that go? Pretty Good.

    Here are some Beatles iTunes sales stats:

    Worldwide:
    450K Albums
    2M Singles

    US:
    119K (13K boxed sets)
    1.4M Singles

    Year to date prior to Nov 14th, they had averaged 23K in album sales a week in the US (obviously, no single sales).

    iTunes is planning on ramping up aggressive advertising of The Beatles for this week.

    Source: Billboard

  4. I saw on AllAccess that AWM has gotten 1 spin a day during the evening on KKPL in the last 2 days :D. I hope they will add AWM.

  5. I am hoping that Nicki Minaj has a strong opening week — maybe 350K-400K — but would love her to beat Kanye. Kanye has 9 songs on iTunes Top 200, Nicki has 8.

    On the Idol front….on Amazon
    Lee – Live It Up – #105
    Crystal – Farmer’s Daughter #143 (preorder)

    iTunes –
    Lee – Live It Up – #49

    And some good news about an album dropping on the charts:
    The second unauthorized Adam Lambert album, Take Two, has finally dropped back into the pit it belongs in on Amazon. It spiked up for a few days and was in the low 200’s on the best sellers list. Perhaps because of confusion with Acoustic Live EP. Since Amazon put up the EP, Take Two has fallen to #951.

  6. And some good news about an album dropping on the charts: The second unauthorized Adam Lambert album, Take Two, has finally dropped back into the pit it belongs in on Amazon. It spiked up for a few days and was in the low 200’s on the best sellers list. Perhaps because of confusion with Acoustic Live EP. Since Amazon put up the EP, Take Two has fallen to #951.

    I’m wondering if the increase in sales had more to do with the Adam’s E! THS special mentioning it, they discussed it during the show. I think this might be a more likely reason, because fans that would preorder the Acoustic EP would know that the Take Two album was unauthorised.

  7. I’m wondering if the increase in sales had more to do with the Adam’s E! THS special mentioning it, they discussed it during the show. I think this might be a more likely reason, because fans that would preorder the Acoustic EP would know that the Take Two album was unauthorised.

    It’s a thought — except that they mentioned Take One on E! THS vs. Take Two. And Take Two started to move up before the show aired — it was coincident with the press about Adam’s “Acoustic Live” EP and has a similar release date. They also repeated the trick they used last year — no track list or description — designed to confuse people I think.

  8. Kanye may be a jackass but dude is brilliant. Kickass numbers. And yup GO SuBo!!

  9. I actually bought Kanye’s album. The music is kind of amazing even if the cursing and boasting get old.

    Me too. Gotta respect the talent.

  10. How much did Gwynnie’s Forget You sell?

    After topping Digital Songs for the first time last week with its cover of “Teenage Dream,” the ensemble goes for back-to back No. 1s, as “Forget You” debuts atop that chart with 192,000 downloads, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

    Source: Billboard

    It also pushed the original version into the top 10 of the Hot 100 (the original had never been in the top 10 before)

  11. Brian posted Adam’s FYE sales for the week

    Adam Lambert, For Your Entertainment (3,000, +7%, 758,000)

    Though it didn’t make the BB200 it has remained consistent and actually saw an increase. I am happy about this especially being he has done this while staying out of the country. Hopefully he will see an increase for the holidays and maybe when he comes back and does some of the jingle balls and maybe a few talk shows. (I hope I hope :-) )

  12. The Beatles released their songs on iTunes. How did that go? Pretty Good.

    Did Beatles songs get on the Hot 100?

  13. To participate in the discussion of Lee’s record breaking first week numbers

    LOL

  14. Here’s the HDD blurb: (I can never find it on their site)

    What you posted from HDD can usually be found in their “rumor mill”.

  15. Congrats to Adam for remaining in the + side for sales! If he can sell 4k or more of the EP in pre-orders, looks like he can chart on the BB200. That would be cool.

  16. I thought Lee would come in at 40K-45K and #15-#17 so was expecting it to be a low debut — but #19 and 38K is not a good debut week — even for a weak Idol season. It has dropped significantly on Amazon, iTunes and the online retailer best sellers lists — so looks like this week will be <50% of the debut week.

    Unless something really unusual happens, LIU is going to have a hard time selling 200K units in the US. And if it tracks like the average Idol debut (past 4 years) it will be 150K-160K. The exceptions have been Jordin and Daughtry who both had multiple singles and a lot of radio airplay driving their album sales.
    ________________________________________________________________

    Second increase in a row for FYE — and with weekly sales of 3K going into the holidays, it should have enough momentum to hit 800K by the end of March 2011. And, if Adam #2 is good, that release could finally pull FYE to Platinum. :)

  17. because fans that would preorder the Acoustic EP would know that the Take Two album was unauthorised.

    Take One sold 40K. I think there are plenty of fans that bought it, even ones that knew the real deal. I know of some fans that admitted they bought it because they want everything Adam does. It’s not just the “uneducated” public buying these.

  18. And some good news about an album dropping on the charts: The second unauthorized Adam Lambert album, Take Two, has finally dropped back into the pit it belongs in on Amazon. It spiked up for a few days and was in the low 200’s on the best sellers list. Perhaps because of confusion with Acoustic Live EP. Since Amazon put up the EP, Take Two has fallen to #951.

    I’m all for the bottom feeders releasing take 2 NOW, rather than waiting for Adam#2. Get it out and over with.

  19. So happy to see Adam still selling steadily with much less radio presence and being out of the country. It has even increased in sales! As far as the Take Two album I may just have to get it if it really has Citizen Vein songs on it. I don’t think I will be able to resist. I love those songs

  20. Kanye’s album is excellent and has gotten really strong reviews pretty much across the board, so not surprised to see it sell so much.

    Nice to see Daughtry’s album hanging on in the BB Top 200.

  21. You need to amend Lee’s number to 39K because Brian changed it, Kirsten (there’s been a rounding error). No that it makes much difference to how sad the number looks, just the number nerd in me needing to keep the figure in order.

    Well done to those who predicted close to that sales number, but I think I’m taking the prize for the worst prediction for his sales. Over 100K, sad sad prediction.

  22. Actually, Take One sold more than 40K.

    It was at 42K at the end of 2009 — 6 weeks of sales — Take One has now probably sold 100K units. And I believe Adam fans bought all of those albums — not people who thought it was Adam’s real album.

    But I recall comments of people buying it on presale on Amazon and then canceling their order.

    At the end of 2009 —
    Idol Chatter 2009 sales total: Adam Lambert, Take One (11/17/09; 42,000)

    In May Billboard posted the sales units from Soundscan for the Top 24 Idols. The totals were based on Nielsen SoundScan and Nielsen BDS as of April 17.

    Adam’s total Album Sales: 685,000 units

    FYE Week 21 04/18/10: #35 13,000 units, total 605,000 units

    Billboard (the author) confirmed that the difference of 80,000 units was Take One. ;(

  23. Hazehel:
    11/24/2010 at 12:19 pm

    You need to amend Lee’s number to 39K because Brian changed it, Kirsten (there’s been a rounding error). No that it makes much difference to how sad the number looks, just the number nerd in me needing to keep the figure in order).

    Well done to those who predicted close to that sales number, but I think I’m taking the price for the worst prediction for his sales. Over 100K, sad sad prediction.

    First of all, I wish you had been right!

    And 39K is almost 3% higher than 38K — plus it is now almost 40K.

    SS did not make the Top 200 tracks this week — of course the Beatles pretty much smashed up the Top 200.

    Forty-six Fab Four tracks, led by Here Comes the Sun, made the top 200.

    I am a huge Beatles fan but it is odd/kind of sad to have so many 40-50 year old tracks take over the sales charts. No equivalent ever before.

  24. And I believe Adam fans bought all of those albums — not people who thought it was Adam’s real album.

    I don’t think that is totally true though not totally wrong either. I can just tell you my story. My family knows of Adam Lambert and they know I love his music. For Christmas last year my Mom went and bought me his album or at least what she thought was his album she went to Target and ask the sales person for Adam Lamberts new album he gave her Take one. Christmas morning I felt so bad as when I opened it I said OMG you got the bastard album. She felt really bad so did I as I know she was trying her best to get me his Major release album. I kept it and played it some. (as I had already bought his album :-) ) But I don’t think her story is that odd or unique. Just saying. :-)

  25. Billboard (the author) confirmed that the difference of 80,000 units was Take One. ;(

    What! 80k? I was shocked at the 40k number. I have a feeling Take 2 is going to sell even more then because Adam is much better known now. Really hate they moved the release to coincide with the acoustic EP. Bastards! Although maybe this might draw attention to Adam’s legit music, IDK.

  26. All the Take One and Take Two garbage pisses me off. I was shopping for music in Target last weekend, and there on the “best sellers in pop” shelf was Take One. Blech. You had to go over to the artist bins to find FYE. Not that I was looking for either, mind you. I wanted P!nk. :-) But, still. It was jarring how wrong they had it. I’m still a purist, do not own Take One, and do not plan to buy Take Two. lol But yeah, the timing is intentional marketing that appears to work fairly well for the leeches.

    OT: Ended up getting P!nk and Kanye at Amazon using MJ’s link. :-) Can’t beat the price, no tax or shipping. And, hopefully a nice thank you to our blog host!

  27. And 39K is almost 3% higher than 38K — plus it is now almost 40K.

    We are sounding almost desperate now trying to make the number look better, haha. It was a rounding error, so the actual number would be between 38,500 and 39,000. There seem to be a lot of these rounding errors – David Cook first week number is often cited as 279K, but it’s actually 280K when rounded properly.

    Anyway, I’m sticking to guns with my prediction of an eventual gold album for Lee, who cares if that looks outlandish now with this first week figure, I’m willing him to do well. Although I don’t call myself a fan of his, I like him and I do think that Season 9 had been unfairly maligned, so won’t mind cheerleading for Season 9’s kids however foolish it might seem.

  28. Yipes dhunken! I guess that was thoughtful! :)

    I have a complete Adam collection except for Take One and (unfortunatelly) I know that someday I will break down and just buy it. But Take Two may get me if it has those pre-Idol recordings.

    What! 80k? I was shocked at the 40k number. I have a feeling Take 2 is going to sell even more then because Adam is much better known now. Really hate they moved the release to coincide with the acoustic EP. Bastards! Although maybe this might draw attention to Adam’s legit music, IDK.

    And Take One is really not very good. There are many fans of the pre-Idol Adam-Monte songs — look at the YT view counts for Crawl Thru Fire.

    I guess dhunken may be right — a lot of the Take One purchases could be well-intended gifts. It is still in retail stores — and often sitting there when they sell out of FYE. But it sold more than 40K after Christmas 2009.

    Although I don’t call myself a fan of his, I like him and I do think that Season 9 had been unfairly maligned, so won’t mind cheerleading for Season 9’s kids however foolish it might seem.

    I do not think you are foolish at all — Season 9 contestants should not be maligned because Season 9 was so messed up.

    And many people wrote off Jordin after her debut — but her album was certified Platinum a year later.

    That said, without a hit single on the radio, I can’t see any way that LIU will be gold. Even with a hit single, it will be tough. Look at Kris — he doesn’t have a gold album and he has a huge single with a ton of lifetime pop radio airplay. Very, very hard to sell 500K albums anymore — even with a strong first week. And Lee did not have a good debut week.

  29. So happy to see Adam still selling steadily with much less radio presence and being out of the country. It has even increased in sales!

    Yes looks like the bulk buying and sending it to the troops is paying off.
    Are you not aware of operation platinium Q3?

  30. Any guess on how many copies of the EP need to sell to turn a profit? Covering printing of the physical copies, etc.

  31. Yes looks like the bulk buying and sending it to the troops is paying off.
    Are you not aware of operation platinium Q3?

    Oh please, not this again. Very,very few fans get involved in something like this. Adam has generated good buzz with his very successful tour, he is still getting radio play on his two singles, buzz for his EP, stories here and there about his onstage antics overseas, great reviews for his show, THS, plus his music is pretty good, and his talent hard to deny. This probably has much more to do with his stable sales than any campaign that very few people take seriously.

  32. sr4mjc:
    11/24/2010 at 1:25 pm

    Any guess on how many copies of the EP need to sell to turn a profit? Covering printing of the physical copies, etc.

    My guess is they can cover the printing/manufacture of the physical copies and studio time with about 2K-3K units. Whatever they needed they must have been tracking to hit because RCA Ed posted that they were going back to produce more CDs. And the margin on the Poster + CD must be quite high.

    We’ll see soon enough! It’s a real long shot for an EP like this to sell much — but if it sells 5K, maybe even 4K, it should make the Billboard 200. And that would be nice.

    Yes looks like the bulk buying and sending it to the troops is paying off.
    Are you not aware of operation platinium Q3?

    Yes, I am aware of it but doubt it has much to do with the total FYE sales. These campaigns never amount to many sales units — the biggest end up being a few hundred units spread over weeks.

    FYE is just tracking with the normal pre-holiday CD sales increases. So looks like gift buying to me.

    And, JMHO, do not send anyone stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan a CD — send them AA batteries, digital players and things they really need. The troops need socks, sunscreen, soap and snacks, puzzles, comic books, not Adam CDs. Check with any of the hundreds of local veterans organizations about what the soldiers are requesting. I work with a local Mississippi organization to get care packages to the Troops from our area and in over 5 years I have never seen a request for a CD from any of the thousands of soldiers who are in Iraq or Afghanistan. They ask for things they can’t get there — M&Ms, hot chocolate mix, and things they really need. Finally, the soldiers cannot play CDs in the dessert. 1. They do not have power. 2. The sand and dust gets in the players. If you feel compelled to send music, send digital music with a player and batteries — lots of batteries.

    Also, many organizations who send care packages to the troops do not have enough money this year. The economy is bad and giving is way down. So there are much better things to do for the troops.

    Off my soapbox.

    Kristen, delete this if it is too inappropriate.

  33. That said, without a hit single on the radio, I can’t see any way that LIU will be gold. Even with a hit single, it will be tough. Look at Kris — he doesn’t have a gold album and he has a huge single with a ton of lifetime pop radio airplay.

    It just needs radio to start playing Lee’s single. It seems that you need to have a couple of hit singles to really sell the album which is what happened with Jordin Sparks, so what Lee needs is a couple of hits. It seems like luck to me as to why some songs become huge hits, but some don’t, for example I can never understand why Hey There Delilah was such a big hit because it seems like just an OK song to me, and there are many far better songs which never became hits. So with a bit of luck, who knows what might happen with Lee.

    I do think there are a couple of tracks which are stronger than the others in Lee’s album – Beautiful Like You and Me and My Jealousy and are to me obvious single choices. If Lee’s can have hits with these songs (and Sweet Serendipity) he can do well enough to sell gold. As an aside – unlike Lee’s album, for me the problem with David Cook’s album is that there is no obvious outstanding songs (apart from Permanent which is completely unsuitable as a single) which make choosing single for him a bit of a crap shoot.

    ETA – only just noticed there is a huge thread dedicated to Lee’s number, but I think I’ll stay out of that one.

  34. ‘Dear Isabelle’ is the same song as ‘Hey There Delilah’. ‘Me and My Jealousy’ ‘s hook in the chorus is the same as ‘This is the Last Time’ by Keane. They aren’t as good though. Lee has nothing new on this album, it’s the same problem as Archie’s. Lots of influences, and songs that sound like other people but nothing original sounding.

  35. Oh please, not this again. Very,very few fans get involved in something like this. Adam has generated good buzz with his very successful tour, he is still getting radio play on his two singles, buzz for his EP, stories here and there about his onstage antics overseas, great reviews for his show, THS, plus his music is pretty good, and his talent hard to deny. This probably has much more to do with his stable sales than any campaign that very few people take seriously.

    Yes IA, very few fans get involved with this, and a 7% bump out of 3000 units = 210 units. You really don’t need a boatload of fans pledging to buy multiple copies to do that.

    We agree that Adam has much more going on for him, so these operations are completely misguided.

  36. Brian posted some more album sales numbers:

    Adam Lambert, For Your Entertainment (3,000, +7%, 758,000
    Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (3,000, -1%, 7.042 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (2,000, 0 change, 3.14 million)
    Danny Gokey, My Best Days (less than 1,000 +12%, 192,000)
    Jason Castro, Who I Am (less than 1,000, -46%, 3,000)
    Mandisa, Freedom (less than 1,000, +221%, 129,000)
    Lee DeWyze, Slumberland (less than 1,000, +101%, 17,000)
    Kellie Pickler, Kellie Pickler (less than 1,000, -14%, 436,000)

    I am glad to see that Danny had a 12% increase in album sales. I’m glad that some of the other idols had increases as well.

  37. Lee has nothing new on this album

    When was the last time you heard something completely original? Anyway it’s pushing trying to link This is the Last Time with Me and My Jealousy, they are completely different.

  38. But Take Two may get me if it has those pre-Idol recordings.

    *sigh* me too *hangs head*

  39. Yeah, I think it has been pretty well established that bulk buying means next to nothing (especially with a year old album). The fan “enthusiasm” is just not there.

    My Target hasn’t had FYE stocked for 2 or 3 months, but there is always 1 or 2 lonely copies of Take One just sitting there,lol.

  40. Q3-
    I received an e-mail from Amazon Nov. 20 offering me 10% off on “Take Two” by Adam Lambert. Fortunately, I knew better, but I’ll bet some people who love his voice but don’t follow him closely were fooled.

    Hazelhel-
    So glad to hear an encouraging opinion about Lee. I agree with you that there are several single worthy songs on his album. He definately needs more promotion-I’m glad he has so many radio concerts coming up.

    ETA-Yeah, if there are any Citizen Vein songs-good thing I didn’t delete that e-mail.

  41. Danny Gokey, My Best Days (less than 1,000 +12%, 192,000)

    Nice 12% for Danny, hosting the carpet at the AMA’s got him some album buys.

  42. With Black Friday coming this week, maybe we will see several idols have increases in album sales.

  43. I got that Amazon email too. And a sent them a complaint about promoting unauthorized releases.

    But they must have sent it to anyone who ever bought anything Adam from Amazon. URGH!

  44. I really do not meaan to piss off the Archie fans but I wonder if Adam is close to beating Archie’s debut album? Last recorded figure for it was also 758,000 I believe. I am sure it has sold more since then- I think it was in April that Brian reported the number.

  45. I really do not meaan to piss off the Archie fans but I wonder if Adam is close to beating Archie’s debut album? Last recorded figure for it was also 758,000 I believe.

    Yes, according to my records (based on Idol Chatter), it is:

    Week Ending 05/09/2010

    David Cook, David Cook (1,000, 1.3 million)
    Jordin Sparks, Jordin Sparks 1.037 million)
    David Archuleta, David Archuleta (758,000 total)
    Jordin Sparks, Battlefield (169,000)

  46. I can only speak for myself as a David A. fan. It doesn’t piss me off, I just find it amusing.

  47. Adam Lambert, For Your Entertainment (3,000, +7%, 758,000)
    Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (3,000, -1%, 7.042 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (2,000, 0 change, 3.14 million)
    Danny Gokey, My Best Days (less than 1,000 +12%, 192,000)
    Jason Castro, Who I Am (less than 1,000, -46%, 3,000)
    Mandisa, Freedom (less than 1,000, +221%, 129,000)
    Lee DeWyze, Slumberland (less than 1,000, +101%, 17,000)
    Kellie Pickler, Kellie Pickler (less than 1,000, -14%, 436,000)

    Nice 12% for Danny, hosting the carpet at the AMA’s got him some album buys.

    Brian’s method is a bit confusing, but I guess given the order Danny must have had the highest figure under 1000, and then the rest in descending order? I’m glad Danny is continuing to plug away creeping up toward 200,000 overall sales.

    I’m surprised Jason Castro didn’t see more sales with his latest though, I thought he had done moderately well with his first release earlier in the year compared to some others and considering how very long it was after his AI season. :?

    Go Mandisa though, she keeps hanging in there getting up to a pretty nice total all in all.

  48. One the best selling Idol debut list — Adam and David both did great. But I think we can safely say that Clay will always own the highest selling Idol #2 debut album. Be tough for even a winner to beat his first album — 2,784,000. Only four Idol albums has sold more than that since —

    Carrie’s first two albums.
    Kelly’s Breakaway
    Daughtry’s debut

    Even Carrie’s “Play On”, which is a 2009-2010 era huge album, is only at 1.8 million.

    I’m surprised Jason Castro didn’t see more sales with his latest though, I thought he had done moderately well with his first release earlier in the year compared to some others and considering how very long it was after his AI season. :?

    I’m not because I have listened to it. He only sold 54K of his April 2010 release. And this is not as good as the first album IMO. Also, Atlantic just threw it out there.

    They released 3 singles — none made the Billboard Hot 100.

    I suspect that Jason will not get another album with Atlantic.

  49. I don’t really follow Jason, he was too quirky for me in his season, lol.

    But this is for his new Christian-oriented EP or album? It just surprised me that it’s only at 3000 total copies to date. Guess that goes to show none of these markets are easy to cross into and these artists need to be willing to work it hard if they are serious about trying to make an impact.

  50. Kristen, delete this if it is too inappropriate.

    Anti-bulk buying posts are always relevant. Post on.

  51. smeggingnuts:
    11/24/2010 at 2:30 pm

    Danny Gokey, My Best Days (less than 1,000 +12%, 192,000)

    Nice 12% for Danny, hosting the carpet at the AMA’s got him some album buys.

    Won’t any AMA bump he had be in next week’s sales figures, not this weeks??

  52. Won’t any AMA bump he had be in next week’s sales figures, not this weeks??

    There were a lot of press releases and online AMA promos making the rounds before the actual AMA broadcast, I suppose it’s possible he got a little lift from that. Otherwise, yes, I would think the greatest impact would be from seeing him on the online show. I don’t know how much impact that should be though, as really Danny was just interviewing and not performing or pimping his own music.

    Danny also had two basically sold-out homecoming concerts in Wisconsin last weekend where he should have moved some CDs on site at the merch/signing table or by buyers hitting their favorite retailers after the show. Have never been clear how fast the on-site sale numbers get turned in, perhaps those lag a little and will appear next week.

    Danny’s album is also for sale on amazon for the first time I can recall ($7.99). It’s moved up the charts there, maybe that will help him a bit next week though I don’t expect the raw numbers out of amazon will be enormous.

  53. Kris- I would much rather amuse you than piss you off :)

    Anyhoo, I just like to see Adam move up the sales rank, and it was more or less just watching another milestone for him than beating anyone. passing Archie’s sales would put Adam at #11 for the top selling debut albums. Next would be JHuds 798 K, who is at #10.
    That’s gonna take awhile :)

  54. Studio57:
    11/24/2010 at 2:36 pm
    I really do not meaan to piss off the Archie fans but I wonder if Adam is close to beating Archie’s debut album? Last recorded figure for it was also 758,000 I believe. I am sure it has sold more since then- I think it was in April that Brian reported the number

    Shirley Halperin’s article in the Hollywood Reporter yesterday said David has sold 783,000. Shirley has followed Idol from Season 1 and I would tend to rely on her numbers over Brian’s.

  55. I can only speak for myself as a David A. fan. It doesn’t piss me off, I just find it amusing.

    Not a David fan, but I was afraid to post the same thing. It may just be me, but I don’t chart my favorites success based on what other idol alums are doing. Who cares if he’s #7 on the idol airplay chart, if his songs aren’t in the top 40 of the charts that matter.

  56. I really could care less about the numbers also.I find all this talk about numbers very amusing too. Lol. I am an Archie fan but he does not need anyone defending him. He is doing fine. I read Archie was close to 800,000 in just the USA on his first album. I remain very interested in seeing how other idols, including Adam, do numbers wise on their second albums. That would include having songs in the top 40 charts. But I guess we will just have to wait and see. I certainly wish them well in this current difficult music sales climate.

  57. Nice 12% for Danny, hosting the carpet at the AMA’s got him some album buys.

    Nice little increase for Danny’s album. I am thinking the increase was due to his concerts in WI and hopefully he will see another increase from possible after effects of the AMA’s hosting gig and black friday sales. In addition to his album moving up on Amazon, it also moved up a little on Itunes.

  58. HDD has up the one day sales predictions for this week. They are predicting that Kanye will sell between 525-575,000 albums and that Nicki Minaj will sell between 375,000-425,000. Wow at those numbers for Nicki, that is very impressive.

    I would have thought 200,000 would have been an impressive debut for her. But 375K-425K, that is fantastic for her. I am happy for her:

    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news08314m01

  59. girlygirl
    I don’t care just thought it was funny you posting about a new song on the sales thread

    its late not many people are here

  60. I really do not meaan to piss off the Archie fans but I wonder if Adam is close to beating Archie’s debut album?

    I can only speak for myself as a David A. fan. It doesn’t piss me off, I just find it amusing.

    I find it amusing that 3 years out the gate, for some, David A. is still the “one to beat”. Simon was spot on.

    Happy Thanksgiving :)

  61. cher:
    11/25/2010 at 2:18 am

    http://adamlamberttv.blogspot.com/2010/11/adam-lambert-has-sold-2677000-singles.html

    Hope this is the right place to post this.

    [wry grin]

    Those are my spreadsheets that were lifted from Adamtopia. Credit for their development should also be given to studio57 and justgill.

    Link to original page here

    There are also sales graphs for FYE (single), WWFM, and IIHY. Didn’t have enough data points for TFM, or it would be there too.

    [grin] Now if someone HAS the old data points for TFM, and didn’t mind passing them along, I’d appreciate it.

  62. Wow @ Adam’s singles sales! That chart really puts his success in a visual perspective! Impressive to say the least! :)

  63. I find it amusing that 3 years out the gate, for some, David A. is still the “one to beat”. Simon was spot on.

    I find it interesting that despite having more national promotional opportunities, and releasing two songs that went into the pop top 20, compared to only one for David, that Adam is just now approaching the numbers that David posted. I don’t care, but if this is supposed to be an achievement, I think giving the facts, it’s an interesting achievement to boast about.

  64. I find it interesting that despite having more national promotional opportunities, and releasing two songs that went into the pop top 20, compared to only one for David, that Adam is just now approaching the numbers that David posted. I don’t care, but if this is supposed to be an achievement, I think giving the facts, it’s an interesting achievement to boast about.

    In this music climate it is a huge achievement so hell yeah we can celebrate!. Keep in mind these are just US numbers not international. I like David and respect his accomplishments but there is no way that he would sell what he did now just like many, many other artists. There is no reason to belittle one artist’s success by comparing to another that will very probably not duplicate it any time soon although I wish him well. Adam’s fans are happy for him, he has worked very hard for this,that is all.

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  65. In this music climate it is a huge achievement so hell yeah we can celebrate!. Keep in mind these are just US numbers not international. I like David and respect his accomplishments but there is no way that he would sell what he did now just like many, many other artists. There is no reason to belittle one artist’s success by comparing to another that will very probably not duplicate it any time soon although I wish him well. Adam’s fans are happy for him, he has worked very hard for this,that is all.

    In this climate there are new artists who have gone platinum, yet they didn’t have the AI launching pad that Adam had. And the rules of what happens to most artists have never really applied to AI artists. These people sell thousands of cds and singles despite not having their music saturating radio, the numbers are based primarily on their AI fanbase.

    The celebrating that went on was by an Adam fan, who felt the need to compare Adam’s numbers to Archie’s. I’m not putting down either, just pointing out that one had a lot more promotion and exposure than the other, and more singles released to the public.

  66. Archie had good promo for his first album and a huge hit single. I think Archie could be selling better on this third album (counting the XMAS one) if he was marketed better. He was on Hannah Montanta and ICarly while promoting his first album. I think he could have positioned himself to have sales like a Disney star for at least a couple of albums. I’m just not sure that is what he wanted and perhaps he didn’t go after that Disney market aggressively. Beiber (who is talented) is also promoting himself as a sex symbol. Archie isn’t. Archie is a much better vocalist than Beiber, but Beiber knows how to look cool.

  67. undercooked, That’s pretty much it. 2 artists can have the exact same promotions but it doesn’t mean they will end with the same results.

  68. As far as comparing previous sales numbers of current idols to past idols, it really is a slippery slope. Every year we get reports from the music industry stating that album sales are down X percentage from the previous year. So it really isn’t an apples to apples comparison. Like many have said, the billboard # is really the only way to compare #s. Probalby also weeks in the BB 200 is something else to look at.

    After taking all of that into account, you then have to factor in the decline of AI the TV show. Not as many passionate viewers means not as many album sales out the gate.

    I’m not saying idol can’t get a huge star again, but boy, it’s going to be tough. The best shot idol has is trying to find another Beiber IMHO. The reason I say that is because older fans expect depth and excellence on a debut album and let’s face it, with the tour etc., it’s tough for idols to put out a quality debut album. If the album isn’t good, the album will lose traction with its targeted audience.

    Album by teen stars, however, if marketed correctly, seem to sell a lot whether these albums are quality or not.

  69. I totally agree with you that idol’s best shot is another Bieber. I am sure that they think that too. Not that I am in any way a fan of his. The question is does AI/19 have the money to give them the insane amount of promo Bieber gets. Also they need to have an USHER behind them.

  70. In this climate there are new artists who have gone platinum, yet they didn’t have the AI launching pad that Adam had. And the rules of what happens to most artists have never really applied to AI artists. These people sell thousands of cds and singles despite not having their music saturating radio, the numbers are based primarily on their AI fanbase.

    So what is your point? Selling 2.7 downloads in the US alone is really no big deal so no reason for a fan to be happy for Adam? I don’t even know how David A was brought into this and I don’t really care I am just really happy that Adam is doing so well. And yes, he is doing very well no matter how you try to qualify it. He also has top ten hits in 20+ other countries. He was able to headline a very successful national and international tour off of his debut album and his album is still selling steadily one year after debut. So sorry, I’m still celebrating. I don’t need to compare him to anyone, idol or not, to know that Adam’s future looks very bright.

  71. aa618892, David Archuleta was brought up because another Adam fan was wondering if Adam’s sales for FYE were close to surpassing the sales of David’s debut album. I don’t think anyone is saying that Adam’s fans shouldn’t be proud or happy about his achievements. He has done very well. But the impression I get sometimes is that it’s not enough that Adam is doing so well and will get to record another album with RCA, it’s more important that Adam beats or passes the sales of another Idol. Do Adam’s fans really need that to validate his accomplishments? I don’t think so, but that’s just me.

    There is no reason to belittle one artist’s success by comparing to another that will very probably not duplicate it any time soon

    I remember more than a few Adam fans who ridiculed and belittled the success of Susan Boyle last year. So far, it’s looking like her sales weren’t the “fluke” many pegged them to be.

  72. I remember more than a few Adam fans who ridiculed and belittled the success of Susan Boyle last year. So far, it’s looking like her sales weren’t the “fluke” many pegged them to be.

    LOL. I don’t think it was just Adam fans who were guilty of scoffing at SuBo’s sales. I think many people are perplexed by her popularity. As for me, I think the gift of a SuBo CD is now a holiday tradition, just like eggnog and those chocolate oranges. To be honest, I was surprised SuBo didn’t do a XMAS album. I think that will be next year and she will sell big again.

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