A New York Times report on why Paula Abdul left Idol confirms that it was indeed, about money, but she also felt dissed by the show’s producers. One of the reasons she asked for higher compensation was to make up for endorsement deals she lost due to her reputation as unreliable and a substance abuser–a reputation that Paula feels the show helped perpetuate.

A person close to Ms. Abdul said that part of her salary demands were to make up for the loss of income from at least one endorsement deal that went awry. That person said that Ms. Abdul had been negotiating for that endorsement contract, with a major fashion label, in 2006 and was close to a deal.

Also, people at Fox had mixed feelings about Paula and were willing to draw a line in the sand.

‘A lot of people at Fox had mixed feelings about Paula,’  said one person who was close to the negotiations. ‘Some of the people who were having to deal with her on a day-to-day basis didn’t want her back.’ 

Paula was not happy when Kara DioGuardi came on board as the 4th judge.

Ms. Abdul has stated publicly that the two women developed a good working relationship, but people close to her say she was surprised and dismayed at the hiring, believing that it was intended to send a message that she was replaceable.

Paula hired a new manager, David Sonenberg, in June, and his tactics rubbed Fox the wrong way:

People involved in the negotiations also said that Ms. Abdul’s contract talks were hurt when she changed managers at the end of June. Soon after the change Mr. Sonenberg, the new manager, told The Los Angeles Times that it appeared that Ms. Abdul would leave the show because she had not received a viable contract offer.

Fox executives said that they had communicated to Mr. Sonenberg the same offer that they had made to Ms. Abdul during the season. But they were vexed, they said, by the new manager’s aggressive remarks and his attempt to negotiate publicly. ‘It didn’t go over well at all here,’  one Fox executive said.

Fox offered Paula 5 Million a year back in the spring, and never wavered from their offer. They were clearly willing to let her go. There’s been some chatter about a last minute deal being made, but unless Fox suddenly has a change of heart about Paula’s expendability, that’s unlikely to happen.

 
  • Kath77

    From the article:
    “Mr. Cowell’s generous pay package, as well as the recent doubling of Ryan Seacrest’s salary for hosting ‘American Idol,’  to $10 million a year, led Ms. Abdul to believe that as a woman she was being treated differently from the men, according to people close to her.”

    Absolutely.

    I’m also finding media reports about Paula distasteful in their not-so-veiled misogyny. The NYT story is fairly balanced though. One of the rarer ones, actually.

  • alison8701

    endorsement deals she lost due to her reputation as unreliable and a substance abuser’“a reputation that Paula feels the show helped perpetuate.

    Whateverrrrrrr. All the craziness associated with Pauler Abdul comes down to Paula herself. The show didn’t need to perpetuate anything- her actions were enough.

  • auntieaimee

    An endorsement deal with a major fashion label? I always thought she had the worst taste in clothes (and jewelry). Hm.

  • alison8701

    From the article:
    ‘Mr. Cowell’s generous pay package, as well as the recent doubling of Ryan Seacrest’s salary for hosting ‘American Idol,’  to $10 million a year, led Ms. Abdul to believe that as a woman she was being treated differently from the men, according to people close to her.’ 

    Absolutely.

    I’m also finding media reports about Paula distasteful in their not-so-veiled misogyny. The NYT story is fairly balanced though. One of the rarer ones, actually.

    Before we say it’s sexism, do we know how much Randy is making? I doubt it’s as much as Simon. It’s probably the same as Paula, if not less, honestly.

    I don’t think it has to do with misogyny. I think Simon knows how to play the game and is more crucial to the show. I remember when the show first started and everyone was absolutely enthralled by Simon and how blunt he was. I think he adds more uniqueness to the show, and more people would be upset if he left than if Paula left.

  • will

    Ms. Abdul told David Letterman on his talk show in July 2007 that she believed remarks by the other judges on ‘Idol’  had inadvertently fed the rumors. Earlier that year the judges, Mr. Cowell and Randy Jackson, had countered those rumors.

    I’m off to do a YouTube search for that interview. What remarks was she referring to exactly? The writer of the piece then proceeds to directly refute her by saying Cowell and Jackson “countered those rumors.”

    An endorsement deal that “went awry” in 2006 is the basis for salary demands in 2009?? That’s a stretch! This section of the article makes her sound petty, vindictive, and more than a little delusional.

  • alison8701

    Will

    I’m off to do a YouTube search for that interview. What remarks was she referring to exactly? The writer of the piece then proceeds to directly refute her by saying Cowell and Jackson ‘countered those rumors.’ 

    if you can’t find the video (I couldn’t) here’s an old article referencing it.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/18/entertainment/main3073127.shtml

  • CynicalDog

    I think the only valid salary comparison for Paula is between her and Randy — they should be earning the same amount, because they do the same job. I assume Kara earns less and isn’t even part of the equation, but to compare Paula’s salary to Ryan’s is like comparing apples and oranges. Ryan has to be spontaneous, to set a mood and pacing, to fill time or speed things up, to draw a personality out of the AI contestants, etc. He truly does have a talent for his job and does it well because he’s able to think on his feet. I’m sure Ryan could replace Paula on the judging panel because everyone has an opinion about music, but there’s no way Paula could do Ryan’s job… Paula often had a hard time sounding coherent when her comments were pre-written and read off note cards! Can you imagine how well the show would work if Ryan was always late coming back to the stage after a commercial break? I don’t begrudge anyone for wanting a raise, but I don’t think it’s fair for her to claim that she deserves the same salary as Ryan when there’s nothing similar about their job responsibilities.

  • SarahP

    An endorsement deal with a major fashion label? I always thought she had the worst taste in clothes (and jewelry). Hm.

    dont tell drama queen tatiana that!

  • will

    I couldn’t find the video on YouTube either, but I did find this, from about the same time period:

    Paula Abdul Tries to Speak On QVC

    Enjoy!

  • alison8701

    This one is eeeeeeeeeeven better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjl00-KRIK4&feature=related

    “What are you looking forward to this season?”

    “*Pause* WELL, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THAT?” *leans back as if she answered the question aptly*

  • jack5791

    Oh Paula. She has no one but herself to blame for her crazy antics. And as far as bringing Kara in, who is a much better and constructive judge, well I guess that proves that Paula is replaceable. She left, and Kara is now the only woman judge. Oh well! Greed doesn’t get people anywhere, Paula.

  • canuck

    Bring on the crazy antics! They should have kept Paula as she is very entertaining on her own.

    However, she also provides good insight with a velvet glove, something those kids need.

    And yes, I do see it as sexism and maybe even ageism that they are not renewing her contract.

  • will

    This one is eeeeeeeeeeven better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjl00-KRIK4&feature=related

    Here’s a clearer version of that infamous interview:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSZsZdwVa9s&feature=fvw

    The one you posted, alison8701, is so blurry it’s like watching TV through Paula’s eyes after an all-night bender.

    That’s a JOKE Paula!!!

  • maturin

    And yes, I do see it as sexism and maybe even ageism that they are not renewing her contract

    But is the sexism in the role Abdul (consciously or unconsciously) was cast to play all along–i.e., that the “sympathetic & emotional” judge is also the “ditsy, crazy, confused” person?

    It’s not like there aren’t plenty of women voice coaches, experienced singers, managers and the like who are capable of being empathetic AND STILL practical and together. Of course, in the beginning they also were buying a minor celebrity factor, and didn’t want to spend too much. But as the show got rolling, I think there was some latent sexism in how the producers used Paula–”of course, it’s nice that she’s nice to the contestants, but the real professionals (eg, the men) are of course the ones to be taken seriously.”

    Meanwhile I have to LOL at her brand new shiny manager, this David Sonenburg, who just negotiated himself out of a ten percent cut of five million bucks into a ten percent cut of QVC hawking and dance-show guest spots.

    Oh Paula, Paula, Paula: your bosses don’t value you enough? They don’t treat you so royally that it helps maximize your reputation & make it easier for you to negotiate for more? Other people are paid more then they are worth? There’s spiteful workplace gossip and lots of people don’t like you? Welcome to the adult world of work, even for successful people.

    And now, goodbye to it. Success, that is.

  • carolinacharms

    We’ll never know what really happened. Never.

    But I can tell you that for as many “polls” as you want to cite about her unpopularity, there are other “polls” which suggest that she’ll be sorely missed. I think most hardcore AI fans loved her. The contestants clearly did. Anyway….

  • cmheart

    So Simon Cowell is being offered $36 million a year to be a judge on the panel, and Ryan Seacrest is only making $10 million? Is that right?

    I agree with the others that say that Paula should be making something comparable to what Randy is. Ryan is the host of the show, and he clearly has a more demanding schedule and roll on the show.

  • sma11ie

    But as the show got rolling, I think there was some latent sexism in how the producers used Paula’“’ of course, it’s nice that she’s nice to the contestants, but the real professionals (eg, the men) are of course the ones to be taken seriously.’ 

    Hopefully Kara gets some training, studies her mistakes from last year, and ups her game, cuz my hope is that she fills the role of the intelligent, successful female professional on the panel– and hopefully one that also shows compassion for the contestants. I can tell she’s smart, but she did not come off well last season… for me, Matt Giraud’s singing :: Kara DioGuardi’s judging. Lots of potential and talent, never quite delivered. Hehe. Still rooting for them both though.

    I agree with the others that say that Paula should be making something comparable to what Randy is.

    Any idea what Randy makes? Cannot be near Seacrest, the dude is an idiot! I somehow always assumed he got less than Paula…

  • terps

    I’m over her… shes done, shes gone, I wish the media would just move one. We have more important things to worry about.

  • ravengirl

    ndorsement deals she lost due to her reputation as unreliable and a substance abuser’“a reputation that Paula feels the show helped perpetuate.

    Whateverrrrrrr. All the craziness associated with Pauler Abdul comes down to Paula herself. The show didn’t need to perpetuate anything- her actions were enough.

    Whoa! Allison! The second time I have ever agreed with you!!!

    I was watching QVC one late night/early morning when Paula was on and was bemused by her lunaticspeak and unbleeped word.
    I do think she was kind and nurturing to the contestants and that will be missed, but her onstage “dancing on the path of greatness” “you are our Michael Phelps” burbling will not.

  • maturin

    I’m not gonna argues that Cowell’s pay isn’t pretty insane. 19E there seems like one of those sports franchises that is so afraid of losing its star slugger that they keep upping his pay to crazy amounts that dig into their profits and cause everybody else to get mad and want a raise too.

    Despite the public bravado about how the show could supposedly run another ten years, maybe they’ve looked at the life cycle of once-huge reality and game shows and decided there’s only a few more juicy years left, so lock in Cowell and Seacrest, their best-known brand faces, and shrug over Paula, Randy and Kara–offer ‘em a deal, let ‘em walk if they don’t take it. Kara’s the rookie who basically can only benefit at this point–it doesn’t matter how much less she makes then the others, only how much more she’s making this year then before the show. Randy’s sitting tight. Paula’s gonna be watching next year’s finale from a bar.

    Aww, now I’m at least a little sad for her.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    They offered Paula 5 million which is half Ryan’s salary. Misogyny? No way. Paula breezes in at 4:30 to get to her dressing room for hair and make up. After which, her job is to watch the contestants perform and offer critique for one hour.

    Ryan is there for the dress, has to work out staging, pacing, and camera angles with the director, is on-screen more than the contestants or any of the judges, is charged with moving the show along, consoling tearful contestants, writing the script for his results night bootings, playing the bad guy when the show needs a “shock boot,” and playing the good guy when a contestant gets torn to bits by the judges, ad-libbing when there are technical difficulties. Ryan’s job is far more challenging and labor intensive than Paula’s, and, though no one is irreplaceable, it would be a challenge to find someone to do what Ryan does so well.

    Simon makes mega-bucks because the show is his brain child, and he is one of the ex producers. Also, he is a huge draw. Losing Paula might cause a short-term loss of viewers, but they’ll tune back in when the buzz starts about the contestants. Losing Simon would cause a constant bleed of viewers as people would find the show far less compelling and more like a dreary talent show than a snark-worthy reality program.

    Paula was offered $15 million for three years and her idiot manager turned it down? He needs to be fired. Oh, but wait. He might have gotten her a gig on that sinking ship, Ugly Betty. Whoopee.

  • cmheart

    I agree with the others that say that Paula should be making something comparable to what Randy is.

    Any idea what Randy makes? Cannot be near Seacrest, the dude is an idiot! I somehow always assumed he got less than Paula’ ¦

    No idea what Randy makes. I do think Paula adds more to the show than Randy though, but if you were comparing salaries, I think Randy would be her closest counterpart. Ryan has a much larger roll, and Simon…well he’s Simon. (Not that I agree with his obscene pay check).

    Simon makes mega-bucks because the show is his brain child, and he is one of the ex producers.

    And correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Simon is only a judge on American Idol, while he produces America’s Got Talent and I think X-Factor? Simon Fuller is the creator of Idol.

  • http://stores.ebay.com/BookWomanBlues-Book-Nook Bobbi

    Zsus – just for the record $5 million is one third of Ryan’s annual salary not half. He’s making $45 million over the next three years.

    I’m still sorry Paula is gone. She was more valuable to the show and the contestants than Randy is, imo. But, what’s done is done. I still can’t figure out why they’re looking for a fourth judge. Let it be!

  • itsalleternal
  • Kath77

    I think Paula was absolutely instrumental in the success of the show. People tuned in partially to see what sort of BSC things she’d say, and to mock in endlessly afterward. People are mocking her endlessly now. It’s part of the lore of the show.

    Paula’s demands are no more diva than Simon’s demands to have his own trailer away from the rest of the judging panel, breezing in at the last minute, etc.

    I don’t think Paula leaving is going to break the show, but I do think it’ll help its decline.

  • Cheyjane

    It’s so nice to find a place that doesn’t think that losing Paula is the worse thing that could ever happen to Idol. I, for one, was getting really tired of her antics. The little slap tickle game she and Simon were playing last season was distracting and uncomfortable. Also, does anyone else find it interesting that Simon is signing for 3 years after saying he was going to leave after the next season was over? Maybe this is what he was holding out for. Sorry Paula. You seem like a nice person, but you did this to yourself. Good luck.

  • abbysee

    This is an interesting and fair account. Far better than the bogus polls and rumors floated yesterday. It’s not enough that tptb manipulate the viewers during the season, they try to do it in between too?

    I think alot of things went into the ousting of Paula. I think they undervalued her contribution to the show. I think it was a mistake on both parts, but I think in the longrun the show will be the biggest loser.

    Calling Paula a diva, and that she behaves unprofessionally on the show, but giving Simon a pass on that when he has behaved just as badly and is certainly the biggest diva on that panel is interesting to me. His criticisms are no more valid, and certainly less helpful than Paula’s have been.

    I know Joe’s Place does the spoiler stuff, but is most of the insider info there any good?

  • wand3rful

    Before we say it’s sexism, do we know how much Randy is making? I doubt it’s as much as Simon. It’s probably the same as Paula, if not less, honestly.

    thank you! randy is the key player here…he doesnt have side/multi- project deals w. Fox or 19 (like simon and ryan), so his pay should be equal to Paula. i find it odd that her agents have not once mentioned his name…..IF he was getting paid more, i think we would have heard something about it from her camp.

  • suebrody

    We’ll never know what really happened. Never.

    But I can tell you that for as many ‘polls’  as you want to cite about her unpopularity, there are other ‘polls’  which suggest that she’ll be sorely missed. I think most hardcore AI fans loved her. The contestants clearly did. Anyway’ ¦.

    I want her back, and I hope JP is right…and, to be honest, I say ose Randy, keep Paula! I am losing interest in Idol, and the lack of Paula isn’t going to help regain my enthusiasm. Honestly, after Kradison and Matt, I don’t know how much more I could expect from Idol…I sort of wish it were over, ending on a very high note, no pun intended.

  • lurksalot

    The Today Show had an entertainment critic on their show several days ago that was stating that Paula was told a while back that she wasn’t coming back. And all this hoopla re negotiations, etc. were a ruse to help her save face.

    Just another perspective.

  • wand3rful

    in the real world, i would never compare my salary to a person in another dept….hello, paula…who are a JUDGE, not a HOST….dont look at Ryan to dictate your negotiations. and yes, the money they gave Simon is insane…but only by my standards. If Idol makes 900 mil a yr, 30-45mil a yr to Simon doesnt seem that much….especially since he is doing other projects w. Fox and his name is a ratings draw.

    plus, nobody to blame for the loss of “possible” projects but herself….she is loopy and incoherent even outside the judging panel, as the many youtube interviews can prove. plus her style is tacky and over the top…trust me, fashion labels aren’t courting her bc she lacks a desirable image. and her age has nothing to do w. it…..here are the list of women in their mid 40s that have campaigns: Monica Bellucci, Diane Lane, Michelle Peiffer, Vanessa Williams…heck even Christie Brinkley and Lauren Hutton (over 50). Given the success of Idol, she could have used the popularity to get contracts, but she just isnt marketable…..unless you are selling pills (and even then…..)

    Also, any notion that Fox wanted to replace Paula with a younger woman seems a bit faulty considering Kara is almost 40, and only 7-8 yrs younger than Paula. Not a considerable difference, IMO.

  • will

    Or is Paula coming back after all?

    http://www.joesplaceblog.com/2009/08/american-idol-9-orlando-judges-round-auditions-start-828-guess-who-is-going-to-be-there/

    Hmmm. Who’s Joe? How reliable is he? I’ve never seen that blog before, but I see he links to mjsbigblog, so that’s a point in his favor. That would be quite a scoop if it turns out to be true.

    ETA: Sorry, I guess I should have said “How reliable is she?”

  • itsalleternal

    JoesPlace (Mila) has been very reliable in her spoilers over the past couple seasons.

  • SpenserJ

    Paula has no business blaming anyone else for her tarnished reputation. Especially considering that nearly everyone connected to that show has defended her “clean and soberness” at one time or another.

    There is no comparison between Ryan & Simon’s deals and any offer to Paula. Both Ryan and Simon’s contracts cover other work outside of their on-air duties. Paula is simply an on air personality. If she was making considerably less than Randy, I might see some sexism there. But otherwise, I think it’s just typical Hollywood business dealing. Ryan and Simon are franchise players. Paula’s like an aging back-up quarterback.

    From a business perspective, I can’t see how Paula’s team thought it was a good move to start negotiating in the press. That usually meets with silence from executives, and it pisses people off.

  • lostinidol

    I can only imagine what crossed the minds of Fox execs when Paula’s people suggested that she deserves a big raise because Simon said there was something in her cup, people believed it, and she lost an endorsement deal as a result. And this explains Paula’s manager shuffle, trying to find someone who’d be willing to say this with a straight face must have been a huge task. I’m sure Fox made it particularly hard on those managers too by playing Hey Paula in the background while the managers attempted to explain how sane, rational, sober, humble and down-to-earth Paula actually is.

  • tinawina

    Yeah, I don’t get sexism from this either. The woman is loopy. She earned her crazy rep. She should get about what Randy gets, and if not then she’s got something.

    Any pluses she brought to the table as the sole “star” of the initial season was quickly outgrown by the show and undermined by her own craziness.

    I will miss Paula though.

  • wand3rful

    btw, her tv appearances (like ugly betty) are only feeding her delusion. come next season, NOBODY will be interested in having her guest star. she’s only in demand now because of the novelty of the situation….within 12 months, she’ll be begging VH1 for her own reality love show.

  • lizland

    Calling Paula a diva, and that she behaves unprofessionally on the show, but giving Simon a pass on that when he has behaved just as badly and is certainly the biggest diva on that panel is interesting to me.

    I completely agree with this. I was so fed up with Simon this year, I would have been happy if they got rid of him. Not only is he a diva, but he is bored and the biggest manipulator.

    I have to say, after 7 years of FF through almost all of Paula’s comments, I thought she was the best she’d ever been this year. There is nothing like a contract negotiation (and possible replacemnet) to make someone clean up their act. But I still think she is too big of a liability – she forever tarnished AI with the S7 Castro judging incident. Who knows what would be next if she fell off the wagon.

    But I hope she is not coming back and that they stick with 3 judges so that the focus can return to the contestants.

  • wand3rful

    Calling Paula a diva, and that she behaves unprofessionally on the show, but giving Simon a pass on that when he has behaved just as badly and is certainly the biggest diva on that panel is interesting to me.

    they are calling paula a diva for her behind the scenes antics…..anyone who has seen a minute of her reality show can understand their pain LOL for the past yrs, there has been much buzz about her behavior and how difficult she can be to work for & with. top that w. castrogate, the “fling” with corey clark, and her overall on air gibberish….the salary demand was probably the final straw.

    while i disagreed w. simon this yr (especially his push for the Lil, Danny, Adam final 3)….ive never heard of him being difficult with staff and crew. in fact, the opposite, that he is actually a nice guy.

  • http://www.twitter.com/sarahruth3 Sarah

    The show didn’t NEED to “help” perpetuate the perception of Paula as unreliable and whatever else. Her actions on LIVE, unedited shows did enough to show that there are a few screws loose up there.

  • http://absinthedreamers.blogspot.com/ Starrlight

    Paula made herself look cracked out with comments about wanting to hang heads from her car mirrors.

    The day that Idol can not survive a change to judges is the day it SHOULD die. The singers are what should be driving the show. Maybe axing Paula will make Randy, Kara and Simon try to give a shit a bit more this season. I am actually starting to look forward to this.

  • Natasha

    Paula made herself look cracked out with comments about wanting to hang heads from her car mirrors.

    This made me LOL.

    I have to admit Paula has made some wacko comments but I also feel the show did nothing to discourage her loopiness and probably tried to make her look as loopy as possible since her escapades were like free publicity for the show. It’s sort of like that movie Network where they keep putting an insane anchorman on the air for ratings – not that I think Paula is crazy. Just loopy.

  • carolinacharms

    Has Simon made any substantive comments relative to this ordeal? If so, would somebody provide a link? Thanks.

  • 2dogs

    If sexism played any role, it was to allow Paula the opportunity of having a lucrative, high profile career for being a stereotypically dumb but sweet girl-judge for 8 seasons. She wasn’t the entertainment equal of Ryan and her playing the sex card bugs me.

    All that being said, I will be a little sad to see her go, but I think most of my sadness is nostalgia in that she was some continuity between the current show and the fresher, less jaded show of seasons past.

    In reality, it will be a relief not to hear her looooong, uncoherent comments, or see her staring, unfocused eyes, or hear and see her silly mock-fights with Simon.

  • Duke

    She wouldn’t have had any endorsement deals had it not been for Idol!!! Besides, who in the hell was endorsing her? QVC or Percocet?

  • will

    Has Simon made any substantive comments relative to this ordeal? If so, would somebody provide a link? Thanks.

    The only comments from him I’ve seen are in the video MJ posted here, at about 1:10.

    http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-judges-in-denver-already-miss-paula-abdul-posh-a-tough-sell-and-kris-allen-front-and-center.htm

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I don’t think you can compare Paula’s salary to those of Simon or Ryan and cry sexism. Both of their contracts include producing/development deals. Hers does not. And as noted, Ryan does a helluva lot more actual work.

    Randy would be a better comparison, but at the same time, he hasn’t shown up under the influence as far as I know. From my POV, that’s enough to get one fired, not qualify for a big raise. As much as I don’t like Randy as a judge, I’ve also not heard anything about him being difficult. And no, its not just “insiders” claiming that as a bargaining chip. I saw one episode of her reality show and it was clear.

    I felt last year that it could be her last. Kara was only part of it. The rest? How about that choreography they let her do? And the performance? I kind of felt they may have been kindly giving her a last hurrah. This negotiation reeks of letting her save face.

    If not, I still think she’s a fool for not taking $5 mill a year. I guess it could be argued that maybe she was also angling for a production deal, but I wouldn’t trust her with that at all. She can barely function as a judge and on the talk show circuit.

    Is Simon worth his money? No. It’s insane that he should get so much for what he does. BUT, if I were FOX, I’d sure as hell give him the money before letting him quit and go to another network. I hate it, but America’s Got Talent did better than SYTYCD this summer.

    From a business standpoint, Pauler just doesn’t have enough to offer. I’m sure they can find someone else with “heart” who can buy the kids fugly jewelry. ;-)

    Meanwhile I have to LOL at her brand new shiny manager, this David Sonenburg, who just negotiated himself out of a ten percent cut of five million bucks into a ten percent cut of QVC hawking and dance-show guest spots.

    LOL. True. Good luck finding new clients after that, dude.

  • carolinacharms

    The only comments from him I’ve seen are in the video MJ posted here, at about 1:10.

    Thanks, Will.

  • sammy

    I’m glad Paula’s gone. She drove me crazy with her long-winded, incoherent jibberish and her announcements to certain contestants early on that they were going to be in the finals. I wanted to swat her when she interrupted Simon whenever she disagreed with him (often). Blah, blah, blah. I would not be the least upset to see Kara gone too.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Calling Paula a diva, and that she behaves unprofessionally on the show, but giving Simon a pass on that when he has behaved just as badly and is certainly the biggest diva on that panel is interesting to me. His criticisms are no more valid, and certainly less helpful than Paula’s have been.

    From a business standpoint, it doesn’t matter whether his comments have more value artistically. It only matters that his opinion is considered of higher value. The contestants love Pauler, but they really care what Simon sez. Why? Because the general public listens to him.

    Again, he and Ryan are also getting paid for other stuff.

  • cookcricket

    sammy Aug 12th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    I’m glad Paula’s gone. She drove me crazy with her long-winded, incoherent jibberish and her announcements to certain contestants early on that they were going to be in the finals. I wanted to swat her when she interrupted Simon whenever she disagreed with him (often). Blah, blah, blah. I would not be the least upset to see Kara gone too.

    Actually I have a question about this. I’ve only watched two full seasons. Paula called DC to be in the finals, what top 5? After Billie Jean she did say, “I think you can beat these guys or this bunch.” Other than that she didn’t cont. to call it over and over like she did last year did she? How about other seasons?

    I’m just wondering because I think her failure to “call” to final two last season is bigger than we think. Whether it affected her or how TPTB viewed her. I also think she may have thought she had more influence on something like this than she thought.

    Just some things that have been going through my mind. No biggie.

  • will

    I’m just wondering because I think her failure to ‘call’  to final two last season is bigger than we think. Whether it affected her or how TPTB viewed her. I also think she may have thought she had more influence on something like this than she thought.

    The one thing I do know about this is from another poster on this board who said that she has boasted in interviews of successfully predicting the winner every year since the show began. She said she would write down the name and seal it in an envelope at the beginning of the season. I think it’s safe to say that her prediction this year (Gokey) didn’t pan out, despite her best efforts to make it happen, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that traumatic experience had some bearing on what has happened since.

  • stingray11214

    Folks;

    Paula did not “quit” AI, she got pushed. This is a Simon Fuller deal to take back control of AI. When Paula originally came on board, it was thought that you needed people who were independent of TPTB to judge AI. Since Simon Cowell repped Sony/BMG on that panel, Paula was the counter. However, after the last couple of years, Fuller has had enough and is taking control. How? Kara is the Talent Development guru over at 19E. She is Fuller’s girl. With Kara there, no need for Paula. Simon will be on for as long as Sony wants him on. Sony has nobody that could handle their interests on an AI judging panel. Randy is the sole independent voice, and the fact that he is black, works in his favor.

    Don’t be surprised if Paula ends up as a judge on SYTYCD. She is FAR more qualified to judge that show than AI as she is a choreographer by trade. In fact, I TRULY believe that a deal had already been cut to move Paula over to SYTYCD. This was all manufactured drama to make everyone look good. However, it will always be noted that Paula QUIT AI.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    stingray11214:

    Kara is also writing for AI rejects, like Jason Castro.

    The show is more interested in ad revenue than their “stars.”

    Pauler was a cheerleader who did 80s choreography for music vids. That’s way different than being a trained dancer or being able to judge SYTYCD. She will be a guest at most.

    TPTB may want her gone, but I just don’t see it exactly like you do. ;_

  • http://www.last.fm/user/RemusL/ RemusL

    Paula did not ‘quit’  AI, she got pushed. This is a Simon Fuller deal to take back control of AI. When Paula originally came on board, it was thought that you needed people who were independent of TPTB to judge AI. Since Simon Cowell repped Sony/BMG on that panel, Paula was the counter. However, after the last couple of years, Fuller has had enough and is taking control. How? Kara is the Talent Development guru over at 19E. She is Fuller’s girl. With Kara there, no need for Paula. Simon will be on for as long as Sony wants him on. Sony has nobody that could handle their interests on an AI judging panel. Randy is the sole independent voice, and the fact that he is black, works in his favor.

    Don’t be surprised if Paula ends up as a judge on SYTYCD. She is FAR more qualified to judge that show than AI as she is a choreographer by trade. In fact, I TRULY believe that a deal had already been cut to move Paula over to SYTYCD. This was all manufactured drama to make everyone look good. However, it will always be noted that Paula QUIT AI.

    Did you happen to make all this up or just certain parts of it? :rolleyes_wp:

    Kara is already vice-president of A&R at Warner Bros. Records. Simon Fuller is the co-creator of So You Think You Can Dance.

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