Weekend Countdown Shows – 05/28/11

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Coronation Single Watch:
Scotty McCreery’s “I Love You This Big” has arrived on the Mediabase Country Top 50. The song has reached 48th with 287 monitored spins and an AI of 2.912. It had a total of 373 spins (AI 3.186) across 109 stations since being released to radio. It is the number one song on the Taking off Chart with 11 Starters spinning the song a total of 125 times. It continues at number one on iTunes.

Lauren Alaina’s “Like My Mother Does” has received 115 spins across 56 stations. It is number 5 on the Taking off chart with its 3 Starters playing it 28 times. The song is number 5 on iTunes.

A lot of spins for these songs will be courtesy spins (play it once just to acknowledge the two of them), so the next week will be telling if they both stick. So far, they are both off to a pretty impressive start for a coronation single (remember what we all thought of them on Tuesday night?). A first single is always exciting so we’ll probably watch them until for a week. Watching airplay of new first singles was the genesis of all these numbers threads.

Back to our regularly scheduled Weekend Countdowns:

Every weekend, there are countless countdown shows. VH1’s top 20 videos. Ryan’s American Top 40. Rick Dee’s Weekly Top 40 and many more. If you find an Idol on one of these shows, please post it here!

This is the general numbers thread for the weekend. So, if you find some cool numbers, this is the thread for posting them.

VH1 Top 20 Music Video Countdown 5/28/11 (thanks tripp_ncwy for collecting all of these stats!)

#07 Jennifer Lopez/Pitbull “On The Floor” [2|7] [+8] New Peak, Leap Of The Week

Countdown Contenders:
# 21 Steven Tyler “(It) Feels So Good”

Rick Dees Top 40
#03 Jennifer Lopez f/Pitbull On The Floor

Rick Dees HOT ADULT
#34 Jennifer Lopez f/Pitbull On The Floor
SS Steven Tyler It Feels So Good

GAC top 20 Country:
#16 (13) Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)

CMT Pure 12-Pack:
No Idols

CMT top 20:
#11 Don’t You Wanna Stay (From 2010 CMA Awards) (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)

 
  • MBane

    If you search for “american idol performance” in itunes you get this list:
    1. HOTRS – Haley
    2. IWHN – Haley
    3. BATJ – Haley
    4. Gone – Scotty
    5. RITD – Haley
    6. DSB – James
    7. WYSLMT – James
    8. Anyway – Lauren
    9. Uprising – James
    10. You and I – Haley

    The order seems to correlate closely with popularity, but not exactly. Does anyone know how they are ordered?

    However it’s ordered, it is clearly related to sales, so it bodes quite well for Haley, and her chances of getting a good contract.

    Oh, and here’s a promotional thing that Haley recently did that I just found…. so good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhN7dOmZn6o&NR=1

  • Kirsten

    The order seems to correlate closely with popularity, but not exactly. Does anyone know how they are ordered?

    It’s not correlated related to current popularity. Here is the top 10 songs with “American Idol Performance” on iTunes right now

    1. ILYTB – Scotty (1)
    2. LMMD – Lauren (5)
    3. Gone – Scotty (84)
    4. Amazed – Scotty (109)
    5. HOTRS – Haley (111)
    6. B&TJ – Haley (125)
    7. IWHN – Haley (122)
    8. IIDY – Lauren (131)
    9. WI&SNB – Haley (145)
    10. RITD – Haley (194)

    I’m not sure what algorithm they are using for that original list. Perhaps it is a longer rolling window? If so, its meaning would depend on the length of that window. Some kind of internal coding on the songs?

    Is it possible you are using an international version of iTunes? I noticed that the ordering changes for different countries (the order seems close to Canada’s with only the last song being different).

  • tripp_ncwy

    Mediabase (rolling) TW: May 27

    US

    HAC
    21 18 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 1404 1121 283 7.433
    33 27 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 687 557 130 2.937
    40 33 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 598 362 236 2.981
    46 46 DAVID COOK Last Goodbye 307 283 24 0.86

    AC
    3 4 DAUGHTRY September 1286 1286 0 8.808
    19 18 MATTHEW MORRISON Summer Rain 214 190 24 0.932
    42 39 DAVID COOK Last Goodbye 31 26 5 0.946

    Country
    55 39 BRAD PAISLEY/CARRIE UNDERWOOD Remind Me 448 137 311 3.686
    0 48 SCOTTY MCCREERY I Love You This Big 287 0 287 2.912 (NEW)

    June 13, 2011 – impacting songs
    Kellie Pickler 19 Recording/BNA – Tough

    Top 40
    5 6 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 10149 9936 213 63.933
    54 46 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 672 401 271 3.087
    63 50 NICOLE SCHERZINGER Right There 597 244 353 5.119

    Mainstream Rock
    21 20 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 52 51 1 0.134

    Urban
    43 42 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 426 441 -15 1.079
    42 46 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 336 485 -149 1.48

    Urban AC
    6 6 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1397 1538 -141 6.803
    18 15 FANTASIA Collard Greens & Cor… 636 538 98 3.005
    129 43 JENNIFER HUDSON No One Gonna Love Yo… 89 10 79 0.726

    Rhythmic
    16 16 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 2260 2292 -32 13.7
    38 37 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 742 636 106 2.75

    Christian AC
    1 1 MANDISA Stronger 1373 1393 -20 5.238
    22 21 CHRIS SLIGH One 312 278 34 1.136

    Canadian

    Top 40
    2 1 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 1654 1662 -8 12.701
    54 49 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 207 182 25 0.691

    HAC
    2 3 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 962 1000 -38 6.208

    Main-AC
    28 26 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 138 125 13 1.594

    Canada-Active Rock
    17 18 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 157 143 14 0.771
    37 33 DAUGHTRY September 38 36 2 0.384

  • JudyOhio

    Kirsten……….are the “starters” actual adds or are those courtesy spins also? Am confused.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Posted on last night’s thread.

    VH1 Week of 5/31/11
    ADDS
    DAVID COOK “The Last Goodbye”

    ON (Rotation)
    DAVID COOK “The Last Goodbye”

    http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16025

  • hoa_teca

    “I love you this big” is not a bad sog. It is actually catchy and may grow on you.

    When I first saw the title, I think this is ridiculous. But now, this is what Scotty tells his fans:

    Thank you guys SO MUCH! this is absolutely incredible! I owe it all to yall! It still hasnt sunk in yet! I love yall #THISBIG

    I don’t find it silly anymore, to be honest.

    How well this song may do on music charts, I am not sure. But while it is not really a meaningful song, Scotty did his best with the material given. So, wish him the best luck.

    My guess is that this song can still keep up on music charts next week.

  • Kirsten

    Kirsten……….are the “starters” actual adds or are those courtesy spins also? Am confused.

    Starters are stations that have played the song at least 7 times within a week. If they are an auto-add station, they will add on…er…Monday (I can’t remember if auto adds are posted on Monday or Tuesday when the Monday is a stat).

    Even if they are not an auto-adder, playing the song 7 times in two days probably means that they will add.

    Neither song has been officially sent for adds. Coronation songs typically aren’t. They are just released without a push from the label. UMG may do things differently than Sony. Bringing in Bright from Nashville to produce ILYTB indicates they are taking things a little more seriously than Sony did. Sony always treated them like cheap souvenirs.

  • larc

    nvm

  • Kirsten

    I went back to check the airplay for previous coronation songs at this point.

    Last year, in typical Lee “Charlie Brown” DeWyze style, we couldn’t track anything because Mediabase had a massive overhaul of their system from Wed-Sun that week (it did not go well, so it took much longer than expected). But, when the servers finally did come up, Lee wasn’t on any of the charts. “Beautiful Day” did get one unmonitored add that week.

    By the next week (1.5 weeks after the finale), Lee’s song had reached 37 on the AC chart. That’s about 30-35 monitored spins. It went on to peak at 36 a week later and fell of the charts within two weeks of that.

    By the Monday following the finale, Kris’s “No Boundary” was 29 on the AC chart. We could get really accurate spins back then, so here were the details:
    Kris: “No Boundaries”: 402 Spins (119 HAC, 133 Pop, 88 AC, 4 Country, 1 Rhy, 23 CanAC, 21 CanPop, 13 CanAC))

    For S7, the Quickcut data was not posted, but we had full access to the charts. Here is how TOML was doing by Memorial Day Monday (Archie did not get any coronation song):
    “Time of My Life”: ^26 AC (-), ^50 HAC (-), ^58 Pop (-), ^165 Act (-), ^300 AAA (-), ^633 Alt (-)

    Here are the numbers for Jordin’s “This is My Now” on Memorial Day Monday:
    “This is My Now”: 47 AC (-), 74 Pop (-), 80 HAC (-), 130 Country (-), 489 Rhy (-), 1054 Urban (-)

  • tripp_ncwy

    What is the country market like in the Southeast Asia? The AI winner usually does some type of overseas tour there. AI is big there but we have a new country version of idol.

  • windmills

    Updated Soundscan for Kelly and Carrie :) I’m not the original source.

    Kelly Clarkson:
    Thankful – 2,748,222
    Breakaway – 6,172,459
    My December – 817,910
    All I Ever Wanted – 918,292

    US Total (4 albums): 10,656,883

    Carrie Underwood:
    Some Hearts – 7,106,281
    Carnival Ride – 3,195,154
    Play On – 2,000,727

    US Total (3 albums): 12,302,162

    Play On’s officially sold more than 2 million US :)

  • Kirsten

    Updated Soundscan for Kelly and Carrie :) I’m not the original source.

    Impressive numbers. Thanks!

  • girlygirl

    Scotty is still #1 and Lauren #5 on iTunes chart this morning

  • springboard

    If you search for “american idol performance” in itunes you get this list:
    1. HOTRS – Haley
    2. IWHN – Haley
    3. BATJ – Haley
    4. Gone – Scotty
    5. RITD – Haley
    6. DSB – James
    7. WYSLMT – James
    8. Anyway – Lauren
    9. Uprising – James
    10. You and I – Haley

    The order seems to correlate closely with popularity, but not exactly. Does anyone know how they are ordered?

    However it’s ordered, it is clearly related to sales, so it bodes quite well for Haley, and her chances of getting a good contract.

    Here’s the total ratings (stars*ratings) at the end of the first week for all performances excluding top 2:

    The songs that appear in MBane‘s list are bolded:

    1 . Haley Reinhart – (House of the Rising Sun) – 16365 ( 1 )
    2 . Haley Reinhart – (Benny and the Jets) – 11210 ( 3 )
    3 . Haley Reinhart – (Rolling In The Deep) – 11080 ( 5 )
    4 . Haley Reinhart – (What Is and What Should Never Be) – 9990
    5 . James Durbin – (Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow) – 9785 ( 7 )
    6 . James Durbin – (Uprising) – 9740 ( 9 )
    7 . Scotty McCreery – (The River (Garth Brooks) – 8335
    8 . Lauren Alaina – (Wild One) – 8199
    9 . Scotty McCreery – (Amazed) – 8091
    10 . Haley Reinhart – (I Who Have Nothing) – 7460 ( 2 )
    11 . James Durbin – (Maybe I’m Amazed (Paul McCartney) – 7020
    12 . Casey Abrams – (Your Song) – 6565
    13 . Scotty McCreery – ( (Can I Trust You With My Heart) – 5925
    14 . Pia Toscano – (All By Myself (Celine Dion) – 5485
    15 . Casey Abrams – (Harder to Breathe) – 4918.5
    16 . Casey Abrams – (With A Little Help From My Friends (Joe Cocker) – 4909.5
    17 . Haley Reinhart – (You and I) – 4837.5 ( 10 )
    18 . Scotty McCreery – (Gone) – 4693.5 ( 18 )
    19 . James Durbin – (Without You) – 4599
    20 . James Durbin – (While My Guitar Gently Weeps) – 4167
    21 . Casey Abrams – (Have You Ever Seen The Rain) – 4135.5
    22 . Stefano Langone – (If You Don’t Know Me) – 4072.5
    23 . Casey Abrams – (Nature Boy) – 4027.5
    24 . Lauren Alaina – (Candle in the Wind) – 3964.5
    25 . Paul McDonald – (Come Pick Me Up (Ryan Adams) – 3838.5
    26 . Haley Reinhart – (Blue (LeAnn Rimes) – 3811.5
    27 . Haley Reinhart – (Piece of My Heart) – 3721.5
    28 . James Durbin – (I’ll Be There for You) – 3622.5
    29 . Haley Reinhart – (Earth Song) – 3577.5
    30 . Lauren Alaina – (The Climb) – 3573
    31 . Scotty McCreery – (For Once in My Life) – 3388.5
    32 . Naima Adedapo – (Umbrella (Rihanna) – 3384
    33 . James Durbin – (Living For the City) – 3334.5
    34 . Scotty McCreery – (Country Comfort) – 3316.5
    35 . Paul McDonald – (I Guess That’s Why They Call It The Blues) – 3285
    36 . Jacob Lusk – (You’re All I Need to Get By) – 3276
    37 . Scotty McCreery – (That’s All Right Mama) – 3235.5
    38 . Lauren Alaina – (Unchained Melody) – 3186
    39 . James Durbin – (Don’t Stop Believin’) – 3154.5 ( 6 )
    40 . Lauren Alaina – (Flat on the Floor) – 3051
    41 . Pia Toscano – (Don’t Let the Sun Go Down On Me) – 2983.5
    42 . Lauren Alaina – (Any Man of Mine (Shania Twain) – 2961
    43 . Haley Reinhart – (Beautiful) – 2920.5
    44 . Paul McDonald – (Tracks of My Tears) – 2902.5
    45 . Scotty McCreery – (You Were Always On My Mind) – 2848.5
    46 . Scotty McCreery – (Swingin) – 2840
    47 . Lauren Alaina – (I’m the Only One) – 2839.5
    48 . Lauren Alaina – (Born to Fly) – 2776.5
    49 . James Durbin – (Heavy Metal) – 2772
    50 . James Durbin – (Saturday Night’s Alright For Fighting) – 2772
    51 . James Durbin – (Closer to the Edge) – 2713.5
    52 . Pia Toscano – (Where do Broken Hearts Go) – 2695.5
    53 . Casey Abrams – (I Heard it Through the Grapevine) – 2601
    54 . Haley Reinhart – (Call Me) – 2578.5
    55 . Scotty McCreery – (Cross My Heart) – 2565
    56 . Paul McDonald – (Fulsom Prison Blues) – 2515.5
    57 . Scotty McCreery – (Where Were You) – 2493
    58 . Thia Megia – (Colors of the Wind) – 2493
    59 . Pia Toscano – (All In Love Is Fair) – 2434.5
    60 . Stefano Langone – (Lately (Stevie Wonder) – 2389.5
    61 . Paul McDonald – (Rocket Man) – 2328
    62 . Thia Megia – (Smile (Michael Jackson) – 2286
    63 . Scotty McCreery – (You’ve Got a Friend) – 2280
    64 . Haley Reinhart – (I’m Your Baby Tonight) – 2232
    65 . Lauren Alaina – (Anyway) – 2214 ( 8 )
    66 . Stefano Langone – (Closer) – 2208
    67 . Casey Abrams and Haley Reinhart – (I Feel the Earth Move) – 2178
    68 . Casey Abrams and Haley Reinhart – (I Feel the Earth Move) – 2178
    69 . Casey Abrams – (Smells Like Teen Spirit) – 2163
    70 . Lauren Alaina – (You Keep Me Hanging On) – 2160
    71 . Jacob Lusk – (I Believe I Can Fly (R. Kelly) – 2152
    72 . Casey Abrams – (Heidi Ho) – 2088
    73 . Lauren Alaina – (Natural Woman) – 1993.5
    74 . Haley Reinhart – (You Really Got a Hold on Me) – 1930.5
    75 . Paul McDonald – (Old Time Rock n Roll) – 1916
    76 . Thia Megia – (Daniel) – 1912.5
    77 . Lauren Alaina – (Where You Lead, I Will Follow) – 1903.5
    78 . Stefano Langone – (End of the Road) – 1896
    79 . Jacob Lusk – (Man in the Mirror) – 1799
    80 . Stefano Langone – (Tiny Dancer) – 1752
    81 . James Durbin – (Love Potion No. 9) – 1692
    82 . Jacob Lusk – (Alone) – 1610
    83 . Stefano Langone – (When A Man Loves a Woman) – 1604
    84 . Jacob Lusk – (Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word) – 1463
    85 . Jacob Lusk – (Bridge Over Troubled Water) – 1452.5
    86 . Naima Adedapo – (I’m Still Standing) – 1449
    87 . Karen Rodriguez – (I Could Fall In Love (Selena) – 1340.5
    88 . Naima Adedapo – (Dancing In the Streets) – 1305.5
    89 . Jacob Lusk – (Dance With My Father) – 1257
    90 . Thia Megia – (Heatwave) – 1220
    91 . Scotty McCreery – (Young Blood) – 1211
    92 . Lauren Alaina – (Trouble) – 1208
    93 . Karen Rodriguez – (Love Will Lead You Back) – 1088
    94 . Stefano Langone – (Hello) – 1022
    95 . Naima Adedapo – (What’s Love Got to Do With It) – 993
    96 . Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina – (Up on the Roof) – 922.5
    97 . Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina – (Up on the Roof) – 922.5
    98 . Jacob Lusk – (Oh No Not My Baby) – 737.5
    99 . Pia Toscano – (River Deep Mountain High) – 624
    100 . Jacob and James – (I’m into Something Good) – 546
    101 . Jacob and James – (I’m into Something Good) – 546
    102 . Jacob Lusk – (Love Hurts) – 385
    103 . Jacob Lusk – (No Air) – 235.5

    It seems that there is some correlation between the two lists. The anomalies are songs from recent shows with several performances ( ‘You and I’, Gone’ Top 5, ‘Don’t Stop Believin” and ‘Anyway’ Top 4). May be people didn’t rate as much for some reason..

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    A long weekend seems as good a time as any to share the results of my S10 Twitter follower tracking (fairly short report here, including how the singers would have placed if Twitter were an accurate predictor).

    Highlights:

    –Twitter can generate a lot of numbers, but it’s all tire-racing: neither weekly rank nor weekly gains nor overnight gains predict anything at a statistically significant level.

    (ETA: At NO point do I attribute the mismatch to spambots. They’re not even mentioned in the report. I assume spambot following is about par for all contestants as a percentage of followers.)

    –For the vast majority of Idol viewers, following a singer on Twitter is NOT part of the fan experience.

    As a last checkpoint, I’ll include the power list for all singers on the morning after the finale. Unsurprisingly, singers who lasted longer tend to end the season with more followers (a relationship that is statistically significant — during the season, follower gains drop like a rock two weeks after the boot).

    McCreery, Scott 210,557
    Lauren Alaina 155,877
    Toscano, Pia 144,818
    Abrams, Casey 130,011
    Durbin, James 125,014
    Reinhart, Haley 114,493
    McDonald, Paul 105,332
    Langone, Stefano 78,607
    Megia, Thia 59,614
    Lusk, Jacob 45,484
    Rodriguez, Karen 31,360
    Adedapo, Naima 29,319
    Jones, Ashton 14,451

    I’ll do a little more tracking over the summer to get an idea of whether there’s any link with subsequent sales, but since there was no statistically significant correlation with the more direct result of boot/stay, this seems unlikely.

    ETA: To clarify, I am NOT arguing that anybody else will outsell McCreery. I’m saying that Twitter follower numbers are likely to be useless in making the prediction either way. There’s not a negative correlation with boot/stay results but NO correlation, so we’re talking “irrelevant” rather than “contrarian.”

  • lili_anne7

    Scotty actually has 230,794 followers and Lauren has 170,390. Haley has 116, 317 followers, so the others’ numbers are probably higher too.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    lili_anne7, as I noted in the explanation, the numbers are for the morning after the finale, not for this morning.

    They are a measure of followership shortly after the confetti fell. It’s not surprising they would continue to increase, but what i was measuring was an implied baseline of follower interest before extensive post-show publicity that might lead beyond the Idol bubble.

  • lili_anne7

    eilonwy, oops, I missed that. Sorry.

  • girlygirl

    Scotty’s got more than 234,000 followers on twitter now. How many of those are spambots (I clean out my twitter account every couple weeks because I get tons of bots as followers for whatever reason) who knows, but it’s still a solid total. Twitter follower or facebook friend totals don’t necessarily equate to amount of success, but it’s still better to have a bunch of followers than not very many.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Lauren’s single LMMD got another add, country station in Baton Rouge. She has 5 adds now – 3 Country, 2 Canada Country. Scotty still has 3 adds from yesterday, all Canada Country.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    girlygirl, as I noted in my posting, the follower numbers are not for this morning, so they will not match this morning’s numbers. They are not intended to give a snapshot of today’s follower count but were collected on Thursday morning so as to crunch them on Friday as a finale to the season.

    They are in today’s numbers thread because I did not post them on Thursday, as I intended to use them for the report I linked today, which is new today. If this is a violation of policy, MJ, please delete the numbers.

    Twitter follower or facebook friend totals don’t necessarily equate to amount of success, but it’s still better to have a bunch of followers than not very many.

    True in a broad sense, but this did no good in staying on the show for Casey Abrams or Paul McDonald, both of whom had much larger follower bases at departure than any of the top 5 except McCreery had that week. Jacob Lusk outlasted both with an incredibly low follower count in relation to the others.

    I realize there will be people who want to use Twitter followers to predict various outcomes, which is why I’ll continue to take the occasional count and will probably repeat the project next season — but as things stand, the math says there’s no useful relationship.

    It’s not that there’s a negative relationship: it’s that when follower count “matches” results, it’s statistically a coincidence. I would not be surprised if McCreery had the highest sales of his cohort. I just wouldn’t use Twitter followers as my reason to predict that outcome.

  • Trina

    Every single celebrity probably has their share of “bots” on Twitter so thinking thats the reason for any of the season 10 spikes especially Scotty I dont put much stock in. I’m sure people like Gaga and Bieber who have millions and millions of followers have a lot of spam crap in there too but it certainly gives you an idea of the amount. I’m more impressed though that Scotty is also currently leading on iTunes now, where things really count.

  • Elliegrll

    I don’t think the bulk of Scotty or anyone else’s followers are bots. He just came off a popular season of AI that got a lot of buzz, so it makes sense that he would have that many followers. It may not mean anything in terms of how many albums or singles he sells, but it is a good sign that people know who he is.

  • mickeybordentwo

    240,000 Twitter followers would represent (very approximately) 1% of the AI American viewing public. That doesn’t seem like a lot to me, given the popularity of Twitter and the fact it costs nothing.

    Does anyone have comparable Twitter numbers for Seasons 9/8, or for past Idolettes in general? I’m wondering if the corrolation isn’t between votes on Idol and Twitter rankings, but Twitter rankings and CD sales.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Does anyone have comparable Twitter numbers for Seasons 9/8, or for past Idolettes in general? I’m wondering if the corrolation isn’t between votes on Idol and Twitter rankings, but Twitter rankings and CD sales.

    Such numbers don’t exist. In S9, there was a single account for all contestants. In S8 and earlier, Twitter wasn’t used by contestants at all during the season. S7 and earlier Idolettes joined Twitter after one or more albums had already dropped.

    That’s part of why I was excited about finally getting a crack at real numbers this year! It’s a very new technology, so this is the time to start testing preconceptions.

    How few viewers follow the contestants on Twitter was a surprise to me, too.

  • Lucy1234

    I noticed Lauren’s official website is up:

    http://www.laurenalainaofficial.com/#!all

    Glad they used that picture -she has beautiful eyes

  • girlygirl

    Here are the current twitter follower numbers for the Top 3 finishers on Idol the last 3 seasons (again, likely including spambots, but w/e)

    Adam 1,062,586
    David A 650,374
    Kris 262,663
    David C 212,271
    Danny 135,206
    Lee 93,466 (fixed from earlier #)
    Syesha 54,199
    Crystal 43,744
    Casey J 18,386

    So Adam is way in front of everyone, then there’s a huge gap between Archie in 2nd place and Kris in 3rd place. Scotty’s current total would put him 4th on this list, between Kris & Cook…

    Of course, some of these people tweet more than others, and if you’re an entertaining twitterer, you likely will pick up followers even if you aren’t doing a lot (releasing music, touring, etc) in terms of being in the public eye at that moment but if you are a boring twitterer, you might not pick up too many.

  • Eileen99

    0 48 SCOTTY MCCREERY I Love You This Big 287 0 287 2.912 (NEW)

    This is really encouraging. Scotty’s off to a great start on radio. Hopefully, Lauren’s song will continue to grow and hit the chart soon so we can keep a closer eye on it, too. I’m anxious for adds this coming week so we can see how many stations are serious about the songs.

    Jason & Kelly finally made the AT40 HAC countdown as the first breakout song, so that will give the song a boost in spins.

    eilonwy, thanks for tracking all that twitter information. It’s interesting how the totals changed from week to week. I’m sure a lot of time was involved in that project.

  • girlygirl

    Some Facebook numbers (I’m assuming I’m looking at their official FB pages — I know some people have created fake FB pages for some of these guys)

    David A 1,721,081
    Adam 1,548,903
    Kris 582,199
    David C 568,339
    Danny 189,113
    Crystal 183,345
    Lee 112,716
    Casey J 58,193
    Syesha 6,721

    Scotty’s current Facebook friend total is 261,940

  • MBane

    My above post is, apparently, the Canadian ranking. Not sure why the two singles aren’t appearing on the list though, considering Canadian radio seems to be picking them up.

  • girlygirl

    Adele just jumped past Scotty to re-take the #1 spot on iTunes (Lauren is still at #5).

  • Elliegrll

    This is really encouraging. Scotty’s off to a great start on radio. Hopefully, Lauren’s song will continue to grow and hit the chart soon so we can keep a closer eye on it, too. I’m anxious for adds this coming week so we can see how many stations are serious about the songs.

    I wonder if UMG plans to seriously push Lauren’s song. Yesterday, Windmills listed some reasons why UMG might have seen Scotty’s single as a legitimate first single, and not just a coronation song, but I wonder if they feel the same way about Lauren’s. They might hold off on promoting a single for her until they see what type of reception Scotty gets.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Here are the current twitter follower numbers for the Top 3 finishers on Idol the last 3 seasons

    Yeah, it does indicate that McCreery’s follower count is quite healthy for what an Idol singer might be expected to generate. It’s just generally a small number in relation to viewers.

    I’d love to see somebody do similar stats to mine on Facebook followers, but it won’t be me, as I’m allergic to the site.

    Using girlygirl‘s helpful numbers to get a correlation to most-recent-album-cycle TEA sales and current followers doesn’t work (r = 0.24, which is lousy in general and not significant at any acceptable alpha for this small sample). There are so many flaws in doing it this way that I’m not surprised, though. (But it was too, too tempting to try.)

    I’ll try to remember to pull follower numbers on album drop day for the larger number of drops this summer and autumn to see if that’s a better indicator, but recent experience with Archuleta, DeWyze, and Bowersox suggests not.

  • chearts77

    Adele just jumped past Scotty to re-take the #1 spot on iTunes (Lauren is still at #5).

    I’m still seeing Scotty in the #1 position for the single. Adele jumped over him on the album end moving Scotty to #3.

    I’m really happy to see I Love You This Big getting radio spins. I hope it takes off. The more I listen to it, the more I like it and Scotty’s recording voice is FANTASTIC!! GO SCOTTY!!

  • Pam

    Yes, Adele has definitely taken back the #1 position from Scotty on i-tunes.

    As of 2:39 pm EDT:

    2. I Love You This Big (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery

  • Eileen99

    I’m still seeing Scotty in the #1 position for the single.

    Here’s the link to the live feed. Adele regained #1 a while ago now.

    http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=9487700/limit=0000/rss.xml

  • windmills

    I just have a hard time seeing country radio taking Scotty’s single seriously. Not because of him, because of that chorus. Then again I didn’t exactly foresee Scotty having a top 40 debut on the Billboard country chart this week which he is likely to do based on his Mediabase AIs. I actually think he’ll get top 35.

    Either way that’ll be a record for the highest debut on the Billboard country chart for somebody’s 1st time charting there. But to put into perspective how little that means: the current record for the highest debut on the Billboard country chart for somebody’s 1st time charting there is held by Jessica Simpson, whose debut country single debuted at #41 and would flame out at #18.

    Carrie’s JTTW debuted at #39 on the Billboard country chart but Inside Your Heaven had charted due to unsolicited airplay (peaking at #52) so JTTW wasn’t Carrie’s 1st time on the country chart. Actually JTTW was Carrie’s 3rd time charting at country because her live duet on Bless The Broken Road with Rascal Flatts also charted (peaking at #50).

    I’d need some numbers for Lauren to estimate her Billboard debut but I’m guessing she’ll chart too. Her song’s much more viable than Scotty’s in terms of possibly getting sustained airplay but Tricky Stewart’s production isn’t going to cut it at country radio. I want Lauren to get in studio with a country producer and rerecord that song. I’m not a big Mark Bright fan but his recording of Scotty’s song is much better than Tricky Stewart’s attempt at a country production.

    Let’s not forget Scotty’s also got Out Of Summertime recorded. If he did that one with Mark Bright too then maybe UMG Nashville will release that one if/when people at country radio comes back to them and ask for a better song. Not that I’ve heard Out Of Summertime but IMO it’d be better by default. It’ll be interesting to see how the decisions go because the sales will probably force them to stick with I Love You This Big for a little while which probably also means Scotty’ll be performing it on TV. But that’s not a song to build a career on and if it’s getting good feedback for now that’s probably more to do with Scotty than the song. If they’ve got a better song/record then they should probably go with that at the earliest opportunity.

  • kmd

    I never knew Archie had that many Facebook Friends. Jordin Sparks has a big twitter following too. It is over 900,000. I think she gained many of them from the Jonas Brothers followers.

  • NOLA

    Eileen, can you give us the link to the iTunes Country chart? Thanks Much!

    TY, Kristin! Super news.

  • Barb132

    windmills — couldn’t agree more with your assessment of how Scotty and Lauren’s songs were produced.

    I was stunned when I heard Scotty’s on iTunes; it’s a far inferior song lyrically but made the better of the two overall due to the good production. It’s far superior to how it sounded live.

    Meanwhile Lauren’s was much better live; the produced version is very amateur/cookie-cutter and all the warmth is removed from the song. I can’t listen to it again (LOL).

  • Eileen99

    Eileen, can you give us the link to the iTunes Country chart?

    Here you go. And you can thank ladymadonna. She gave me all the iTunes genre codes a million years ago.

  • NOLA

    Eileen, I don’t see the link. Sorry.

  • Kirsten

    240,000 Twitter followers would represent (very approximately) 1% of the AI American viewing public. That doesn’t seem like a lot to me, given the popularity of Twitter and the fact it costs nothing.

    As of Feb only 7% of Americans use Twitter and only 21% of those are active users. Worldwide, only half of Twitter followers follow more than two people. Only 28% follow more than 8.

    If there are 20M viewers of AI that roughly translates to 1.4M Twitter users and about 400K would be active. In other words about 2% of viewers.

    Given that no Idol is beloved of 100% of the viewers, and getting half the active Idol Actively Tweeting Viewers to follow you and your not doing badly.

    Twitter doesn’t publish a lot of details, but here are a couple of articles I found

    http://mashable.com/2011/02/24/facebook-twitter-number/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-how-many-users-does-twitter-really-have-2011-3

  • kmd

    Interesting article. Having many twitter followers does not seem to mean that an artist’s sales of their singles or albums will be increased. Unless of course you are someone like Gaga or Bieber.

  • Eileen99
  • Landmd

    Twitter: Lee 89,784

    Not that it really matters but Lee’s twitter followers have been over the 90k mark for about a week, atm he is at 93,466.
    I can not stand facebook I do have one set up but its for family only, I did follow Lee last year there but noone else.

  • girlygirl

    Landmd

    Thanks — for some reason the # of twitter followers can be funky on my feed. I’ll fix it in my earlier post

  • mickeybordentwo

    Kirsten says:

    As of Feb only 7% of Americans use Twitter and only 21% of those are active users. Worldwide, only half of Twitter followers follow more than two people. Only 28% follow more than 8.

    If there are 20M viewers of AI that roughly translates to 1.4M Twitter users and about 400K would be active. In other words about 2% of viewers.

    Given that no Idol is beloved of 100% of the viewers, and getting half the active Idol Actively Tweeting Viewers to follow you and your not doing badly.

    Twitter doesn’t publish a lot of details, but here are a couple of articles I found

    http://mashable.com/2011/02/24/facebook-twitter-number/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-how-many-users-does-twitter-really-have-2011-3

    Thank you Kirsten for the article links, but I have a couple of problems with your assumptions.

    First of all, we don’t know the correlation between people who watch Idol and people who use Twitter. For example, two year olds don’t use Twitter (I hope), but they’re not part of the Idol audience either. So while it could be only 7% of Americans use Twitter, that doesn’t mean only 7% of Idol viewers use Twitter. Could be more, could be less.

    Secondly, I don’t know how “active user” is defined. If an active user is a person who writes tweets as well as follows, then that has essentially no bearing on how many people follow Idolettes.

    According to my handy dandy calculator, 240,000 divided by 20,000,000 (as opposed to 24,000,000) is 0.012, which by my standards is approximately 1%. Given that Idol is watched around the world, and that Twitter is available around the world, the approximately 1% of the Idol audience in America that follows Scotty on Twitter is even lower than 1%, and certainly lower than 1.2%, of the total international Idol audience.

    Maybe Idol fans are more Facebookish, or maybe they don’t use the internet at all. But I still think even 1.2% is a low number for a brand new Idol winner.

  • Kirsten

    First of all, we don’t know the correlation between people who watch Idol and people who use Twitter. For example, two year olds don’t use Twitter (I hope), but they’re not part of the Idol audience either. So while it could be only 7% of Americans use Twitter, that doesn’t mean only 7% of Idol viewers use Twitter. Could be more, could be less.

    Exactly. We don’t know much about the demographics of Twitter users vs Idol watchers. I just wanted to point out that it is unlikely that the overlap is 100%. Twitter is still growing and it still doesn’t have a lot of users compared to the population in general. It is amazing how small it becomes when you look at active users. Even if we stick to Internet users, only 11%of them use Twitter.

    Active users would be ones that use their accounts regularly. There are a lot of dormant accounts.

    Also, another thing that doesn’t get mentioned are casual followers. I don’t have a Twitter account and follow no one, yet I do periodically check these Idol accounts. I can’t imagine I’m the only one. It comes down to a level of commitment. Many people watch the show, but how many visit Idol related sites let alone create accounts? How. Does that compare to those who sign up for Idol Twitter account.

    I just think it is as cut and dried to say 1.2% is too low a number without having some idea about how many potential Idol/Twitter followers there are.

  • kmd

    I agree with you that many fans don’t have twitter accounts but do check idol’s or other artist’s twitter accounts online. I don’t have a twitter account and I do that too. Good point.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Itunes Update (Coronation Single Watch)

    3. I Love You This Big (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery

    6. Like My Mother Does (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina

  • bentley1530

    Lady Gaga is at 2 and 11 on the itunes chart. What is with these folks who had 2 chances to buy the whole album for 99 cents this week?

  • NOLA

    ‘American Idol’ About to Chart 300th No. 1 with Scotty McCreery SingleThe season 10 winner’s new single “I Love You This Big,” already topping iTunes, is also likely to hit No. 1 on several Billboard charts next week, designating a landmark for the ‘Idol’ franchise.

    Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/american-idol-chart-300th-no-192677

    Fred Bronson

  • tripp_ncwy

    Itunes Update (Coronation Single Watch)
    4. I Love You This Big (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery
    8. Like My Mother Does (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina

  • Kirsten

    Radio Updates:
    0 47 SCOTTY MCCREERY I Love You This Big 334 0 334 3.242
    +1 Position
    +47 Spins
    +47 Bullet
    +0.33 AI

    Across All stations: 447 Spins and AI of 3.571 (+74, +0.385).

    That AI is pretty high for that number of spins meaning he’s getting spins on bigger stations and/or at primer times. He would be 35th on the chart based on AI.

    ILYB has been spun on 117 stations and continues to top the Taking off chart with 153 spins on 11 Starter stations.

    Lauren’s LMMD is 4th on the Taking off chart with 39 spins across 4 Starter stations. She has 175 spins across 56 stations.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Mediabase (rolling) TW: May 28

    US

    HAC
    20 18 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 1412 1165 247 7.489
    31 26 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 708 567 141 3.109
    38 33 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 618 408 210 2.929
    45 46 DAVID COOK Last Goodbye 305 287 18 0.863

    AC
    3 4 DAUGHTRY September 1258 1262 -4 8.753
    19 18 MATTHEW MORRISON Summer Rain 219 189 30 1.042
    43 38 DAVID COOK Last Goodbye 31 25 6 1.042

    Country
    50 39 BRAD PAISLEY/CARRIE UNDERWOOD Remind Me 471 178 293 3.814
    0 47 SCOTTY MCCREERY I Love You This Big 334 0 334 3.242

    June 13, 2011 – impacting songs
    Kellie Pickler 19 Recording/BNA – Tough

    Top 40
    5 6 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 10097 9985 112 63.419
    51 46 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 678 426 252 3.049
    59 47 NICOLE SCHERZINGER Right There 667 263 404 5.65

    Mainstream Rock
    19 20 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 48 53 -5 0.12

    Urban
    42 43 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 423 432 -9 1.089
    41 47 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 298 476 -178 1.275

    Urban AC
    6 7 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1339 1520 -181 6.396
    19 14 FANTASIA Collard Greens & Cor… 697 544 153 3.41
    92 42 JENNIFER HUDSON No One Gonna Love Yo… 108 18 90 0.836

    Rhythmic
    17 16 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 2245 2257 -12 13.686
    37 36 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 757 660 97 2.81

    Christian AC
    1 1 MANDISA Stronger 1365 1391 -26 5.194
    21 21 CHRIS SLIGH One 319 284 35 1.155

    Canadian

    Top 40
    2 1 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 1651 1644 7 12.535
    46 49 JENNIFER LOPEZ I’m Into You f/Lil W… 211 193 18 0.766

    HAC
    2 3 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 955 1011 -56 6.152

    Main-AC
    24 24 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 136 128 8 1.597

    Canada-Active Rock
    17 17 STEVEN TYLER (It) Feels So Good 159 142 17 0.795
    37 33 DAUGHTRY September 37 36 1 0.369

  • tripp_ncwy

    David Cook’s “Last Goodbye” is still not on the voting page on VH1. I thought they updated their page Saturday afternoons. Since this is a holiday weekend, maybe they will get it done Tuesday.

  • Pam

    i-tunes (singles) (Season 10 idols only)
    4. I Love You This Big (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery
    8. Like My Mother Does (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    73. Don’t You Wanna Stay (with Kelly Clarkson) – Jason Aldean
    103. Gone (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery
    127. House of the Rising Sun (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    131. Bennie And The Jets (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    153. I Who Have Nothing (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    172. Amazed (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery
    173. If I Die Young (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    186. What Is And What Should Never Be (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    193. Rolling In The Deep (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    332. Candle In The Wind (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    345. Flat on the Floor (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    393. Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning) [American Idol Performance] – Scotty McCreery
    462. Anyway (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    478. Don’t Stop Believin’ (American Idol Performance) – James Durbin
    546. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow (American Idol Performance) – James Durbin
    568. Uprising (American Idol Performance) – James Durbin
    582. Yoü and I (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    609. Maybe I’m Amazed (American Idol Performance) – James Durbin
    636. Piece Of My Heart (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    675. The Climb (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina
    711. The River (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery
    839. Up On the Roof (American Idol Performance) – Lauren Alaina & Scotty McCreery
    855. I Feel the Earth Move (American Idol Performance) – Casey Abrams & Haley Reinhart
    872. Without You (American Idol Performance) – James Durbin
    898. Blue (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    969. Earth Song (American Idol Performance) – Haley Reinhart
    1024. Always On My Mind (American Idol Performance) – Scotty McCreery

    i-tunes (albums) Season 10 only
    4. American Idol Season 10: Scotty McCreery – Scotty McCreery
    8. American Idol Season 10: Lauren Alaina – Lauren Alaina

  • Elliegrll

    David Cook’s “Last Goodbye” is still not on the voting page on VH1. I thought they updated their page Saturday afternoons. Since this is a holiday weekend, maybe they will get it done Tuesday.

    They usually don’t put videos on the voting list until they are added to the station’s playlist, and TLG won’t be officially added until this week.

  • iani

    I just watched VH1 top 20 countdown, Katy Perry #1 with another Max Martin & Dr. Luke masterpiece, ET. I’ve realized that some songs on that top 20 are not even charted on AC, HAC, CHR, AAA or rock… ex. Rock Mafia, Hanson, Lissie, and lots of songs only on AAA. So there would be a chance TLG to be on top 20 when goes for voting even though on charts is not well placed.

    Looking for VH1 top 20 songs charted on Mediabase I was surprised to see that Fallen by Volbeat is charting on rock charts, it’s the song I said once I thing has some similarities(musically) with TLG. Sorry again Neal(DC’s lead guitarist), I know you’re still mad because of them, but hey, maybe for a good luck verge, lol! And man, Adele is even on Alternative Rock, the universal song!

  • easyrider707

    I actually look for Scotty and Lauren to continue to have success the next few weeks and the entire year, including first album. Country music has 3000+ radio stations (500% higher than any other genre), both of these singers are traditional country, and neither have a very high dislike component.

    The past couple of seasons many voters picked the underdog against overwhelming performances by the perceived front runner. They voted against someone instead of for someone to change the results with no plan of ever supporting the winner. Scotty was the front runner with very little dislikes (remember early season group songs and no one would work with him) that won – his fans actually voted for him because they like him as opposed to voting for him to not allow another to win. For this reason, he will have a very good year and start to his career.

  • Eileen99

    0 47 SCOTTY MCCREERY I Love You This Big 334 0 334 3.242

    That’s a beastly AI for that number of spins. Stations are playing the song during the daytime when people can actually hear it & respond to it. They’re probably gathering good information from their listeners on how well the song & Scotty are liked, which is good. The song will either grow or fade away based on the response; either way, the label will get an answer on this song pretty quickly. Beats the heck out of overnight spins.

  • Dakota01

    Easyrider, I agree with you. The thing Scotty has going for him that the two previous winners did not, is that the general consesus is he was the best singer and the one who deserved to win. He hasn’t been saddled with the media proclaiming that he won over a better singer, etc. Even if country music isn’t your thing (it certainly isn’t mine), there’s no denying he was the better singer of the final two. I think he’s going to have a really nice debut. I also think the fans who voted for him will stand by him and support him. He’s a nice kid. I wish him well.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    That’s a beastly AI for that number of spins. Stations are playing the song during the daytime when people can actually hear it & respond to it.

    This week, the song has news value. It should be getting morning DJ-chatter and possibly afternoon drive-time spins.

    This is why it ought to be worthwhile for the label to choose a coronation single that’s genuinely radio-friendly. (I guess we’ll see if ILYTB is or not.) Thanks to the show, these songs can initially get some prime radio real estate that’s not available to most new artists on the impact date.

  • windmills

    Dakota01: The thing Scotty has going for him that the two previous winners did not, is that the general consesus is he was the best singer and the one who deserved to win.

    I don’t actually think there’s a whole lot of people who felt he’s the best singer in the f2 or among all this year’s finalists. I like Scotty and I sure don’t think he’s the best singer in the f2 or among this year’s finalists. But I do agree that the conventional wisdom favored him winning based on solid, consistent performances.

    easyrider707: Country music has 3000+ radio stations (500% higher than any other genre), both of these singers are traditional country, and neither have a very high dislike component.

    A very low percentage of those radio stations are current country stations, the audience impressions on current country stations pale in comparison to audience impressions on pop stations which also give more spins to the top songs. Scotty is traditional country, Lauren is not, though neither’s country authenticity is going to be questioned too much based on their AI performances and musical preferences.

    eilonwy: This week, the song has news value. It should be getting morning DJ-chatter and possibly afternoon drive-time spins.

    This is why it ought to be worthwhile for the label to choose a coronation single that’s genuinely radio-friendly. (I guess we’ll see if ILYTB is or not.) Thanks to the show, these songs can initially get some prime radio real estate that’s not available to most new artists on the impact date.

    ITA. Though I’m impressed by what ILYTB’s been able to do in half a week, I’m not sold on it as a good single and think Scotty will need much, much better songs/singles.

  • Eileen99

    ITA. Though I’m impressed by what ILYTB’s been able to do in half a week, I’m not sold on it as a good single and think Scotty will need much, much better songs/singles.

    Aw, Windmills, I like the song. It’s actually grown on me a lot, but then I’m not a typical country listener (or much of one at all). At least we’ll know soon if the song sticks or not.

  • girlygirl

    I disagree that Scotty was considered the best singer — if there was any consensus about this season, it would be that Pia was the best singer of the S10 Idols (and I say that even though I’m not a Pia fan at all). And he wasn’t a consensus pick as a “deserving” winner either. He has more than a few critics out there. Now, was he as controversial a winner as Kris or Lee? No — but that doesn’t mean a lot of people didn’t see it as another “safe” pick. He won, and he evidently won handily, so good for him. But he’s not going to be immune from being picked apart by critics or have the Idol winner “stigma” attached to him as he tries to build a real recording career.

    I have no real understanding of the country music market, so I have no clue whether Scotty’s single will do well in that format or not. All Idol coronation songs chart on the BB Top 100 the first week after the finale and a lot of them make a radio chart or two — but most of them disappear within a few weeks. So the question is whether Scotty’s single will have legs, a la Cook’s or Kelly’s coronation song, or whether it will fade away within a month, a la many of the previous coronation songs.

  • Dakota01

    I disagree that Scotty was considered the best singer — if there was any consensus about this season, it would be that Pia was the best singer of the S10 Idols

    What I meant but I guess it wasn’t clear is that Scotty was the better singer of the final two. For me, Pia and Haley were hands down the best singers of the season. I think Scotty has a huge fan base. I believe he will have a stronger debut than both Kris and Lee. Scotty hasn’t been saddled with “Lauren should have won” by the media. Kris was saddled with “Adam should have won” and Lee with “Crystal should have won.” I think Scotty is in much better shape to launch his career because he’s the more “accepted’ winner. Again, I have nothing to base it on (other than the perceived size of his fanbase), it’s just a gut feeling I have. Again, I’m not a fan of country music at all, but Scotty is a great kid and deserving of the title. I wish him much success.

  • Kirsten

    The thing Scotty has going for him that the two previous winners did not, is that the general consesus is he was the best singer and the one who deserved to win.

    Scotty is my favourite, but he isn’t what I would call the best technical singer.

    What I think may help Scotty is that he is who most people seemed to think would win and that by the time he did win, he had a lot of people saying that he is good. I think the shock of Kris’s and Lee’s wins are what turned a lot of people off of them. Many people were shocked so they didn’t think they should win.

    People had time to adjust to Scotty’s inevitable win and see what he brought to the game.

    Plus, he’s in a different genre than we’ve ever really had on the show. Sure, Bucky was country, but it Scotty was a much more viable contestant than Bucky ever was. Some Idols switched to Country after a time on the show or after the show, but Scotty and Bucky are the only true country male finalists in 10 years on the show (Josh/Phil switched to country on the show, Casey is more Southern rock, Aaron didn’t really present his country side and Danny is about as country as I am).

    So, people can’t really argue that this type of contestant is over-represented and many will concede that it’s about time AI had a winner of this type (male country).

    Add in the fact that there doesn’t really seem to be anybody else that the press is outraged didn’t win (aside from a few Idol bloggers who wanted a Haley win) and there isn’t that initial rejection of Scotty which could help.

    Who knows? The press can turn quickly. Scotty would be wise to keep upping his game and hoping the label helps him to get good songs.

  • NOLA

    Scotty & Lauren are STILL #1 & #2, respectfully on iTunes Country Chart!

  • Valentin432

    IA, no one was surprised by Scotty winning and nobody was outraged by it.
    If Haley was in the finale, since she was a favorite of the bloggers/media covering the show, there might have been a little more loud protest (altough I doubt it would have delved into mainstream media).

    The only obstacle facing Scotty is wheter or not country radio will support him, but I think the early signs are more than positive and with the early support of artists like Josh Turner, Tim McGraw, Carrie or George Strait, I don’t see the Nashville establishment turn their vest.

  • Kirsten

    Scotty & Lauren are STILL #1 & #2, respectfully on iTunes Country Chart!

    They should take 1 and 2 on that chart for the week by a country mile.

    The only obstacle facing Scotty is wheter or not country radio will support him, but I think the early signs are more than positive and with the early support of artists like Josh Turner, Tim McGraw, Carrie or George Strait, I don’t see the Nashville establishment turn their vest.

    The show did well to get high profile and respected country artists to be shown to be accepting Lauren and Scotty.

    I also wonder if that column on the country radio DJs may have also helped a little. With the picture of Alfred E. Newman and the comments about calling in sick the day they came to interview, I wonder if some of the other stations thought it was piling it on two kids. While no radio station is going to play somebody they don’t think their listeners will like, there are a lot of songs that never get any spins because there are just too many songs. Perhaps the PDs may be willing to give these two a solid listen before deciding whether to reject/accept them and sometimes that’s more than other artists will get.

  • Elliegrll

    The thing Scotty has going for him that the two previous winners did not, is that the general consesus is he was the best singer and the one who deserved to win.

    The general consensus was that Pia was the best technical singer, but from the start, Scotty was a frontrunner.

  • Dakota01

    Again, I wasn’t talking about “best” singer out of the entire season. I said the “best” singer out of the top 2. To me and (to many others) Scotty was the better singer out of the two. Since the media hasn’t jumped all over Scotty winning (as in he won over a better singer), I think it’s safe to say it was a consensus.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I don’t think Scotty is a better singer than Lauren. But everyone knew that it didn’t really matter who made it to the TOP 2 with Scotty, he’s been a frontrunner, probably since the semifinals. He was unstoppable and singing wasn’t a factor at all. Both kids were good and even if Lauren won by some miracle, no one would protest.

  • easyrider707

    I do not agree in any way that Pia was the best technical singer. She was cut in season 6 and, for me, not much has changed. Not a fan of her phrasing or overall depth and character in her voice. Reminds me of the many wedding singers I hear – good, but not for me.

  • McCreerian

    I don’t actually think there’s a whole lot of people who felt he’s the best singer in the f2 or among all this year’s finalists. I like Scotty and I sure don’t think he’s the best singer in the f2 or among this year’s finalists. But I do agree that the conventional wisdom favored him winning based on solid, consistent performances.

    Yeah he wasn’t the best technical singer, but I felt he was the most consistent of the season besides Pia. But even he had better performing skills than Pia.