Weekend Countdown Shows – 03/05/11

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Every weekend, there are countless countdown shows. VH1’s top 20 videos. Ryan’s American Top 40. Rick Dee’s Weekly Top 40 and many more. If you find an Idol on one of these shows, please post it here!

This is the general numbers thread for the weekend. So, if you find some cool numbers, this is the thread for posting them.



VH1 Top 20 Countdown
2.26.2011 (thanks tripp_ncwy)
No Idols

Rick Dees Hot Adult 03-05-2011
#29 Sweet Serendipity Lee DeWyze
#33 September Daughtry

CMT top 20: (thanks Valentin432)

#17 (13) Farmer’s Daughter (Crystal Bowersox)
#1 (1) Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)

GAC top 20:

#5 (5) Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)
#3 (1) Mama’s Song (Carrie Underwood)

CMT Pure 12-Pack:

#2 (2) Farmer’s Daughter (Crystal Bowersox)
#1 (1) You Take Yourself With You (Bo Bice)

 
  • Valentin432

    CMT top 20:

    #17 (13) Farmer’s Daughter (Crystal Bowersox)
    #1 (1) Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)

    GAC top 20:

    #5 (5) Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson)
    #3 (1) Mama’s Song (Carrie Underwood)

    CMT Pure 12-Pack:

    #2 (2) Farmer’s Daughter (Crystal Bowersox)
    #1 (1) You Take Yourself With You (Bo Bice)

  • tripp_ncwy

    VH1 Playlist Week of 3/07/11

    ON
    CRYSTAL BOWERSOX “Farmer’s Daughter”
    JENNIFER HUDSON “Where You At”

    ADDS
    JENNIFER HUDSON “Where You At”

  • tripp_ncwy

    Mediabase (rolling)

    US

    AC
    2 2 DAUGHTRY September 1799 1732 67 10.751

    HAC

    45 41 KIMBERLY CALDWELL Desperate Girls & St… 189 181 8 0.212

    Adult Hits
    20 23 DAUGHTRY September 52 55 -3 0.142
    27 28 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 42 41 1 0.315
    31 35 DAUGHTRY No Surprise 32 35 -3 0.144

    Country
    2 1 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 5651 5338 313 41.037

    Top 40
    36 35 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 1338 1138 200 7.249

    AAA
    43 48 CRYSTAL BOWERSOX Farmer’s Daughter 59 62 -3 0.081

    Urban
    22 20 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1224 1084 140 6.692

    Urban AC
    6 7 FANTASIA I’m Doin’ Me 1548 1623 -75 9.814
    15 9 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1143 693 450 7.658
    27 27 CHARLIE WILSON f/FANTASIA I Wanna Be Your Man … 220 223 -3 1.227

    Rhythmic
    44 37 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 807 648 159 4.087

    Canadian

    Top 40
    28 28 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 403 404 -1 2.827

    HAC
    31 36 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 226 240 -14 1.548

    Main-AC
    8 9 DAUGHTRY September 278 290 -12 1.668

    Country
    2 1 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 817 767 50 2.99

  • windmills

    DYWS is still at #1 Mediabase but it’s down to a 26 point Mediabase lead on This Is Country Music. On the bright side, TICM didn’t pass DYWS. There’s one more day on the Mediabase chart and this’ll end up coming down to the wire.

  • Miss Blue

    Does CMT Pure 12-pack ever change their line-up? Crystal and Bo have been 1/2 for weeks. Not that I mind, love both of them, but that just surprises me.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Tracklisting for Britney’s new album was released. Jive went all out with the producers:

    1. Till The World Ends (Produced by Dr. Luke, Max Martin and Billboard)
    2. Hold It Against Me (Produced by Dr. Luke, Max Martin and Co-produced by Billboard)
    3. Inside Out (Produced by Dr. Luke, Max Martin and Billboard)
    4. I Wanna Go (Produced by Max Martin and Shellback)
    5. How I Roll (Produced by Bloodshy, Henrik Jonback and Magnus)
    6. (Drop Dead) Beautiful featuring Sabi (Produced by Benny Blanco, Ammo, JMIKE and Billboard)
    7. Seal It With A Kiss (Produced by Dr. Luke, Max Martin and Dream Machine)
    8. Big Fat Bass featuring will.i.am (Produced by will.i.am)
    9. Trouble For Me (Produced by Fraser T Smith)
    10. Trip To Your Heart (Produced by Bloodshy, Henrik Jonback and Magnus)
    11. Gasoline (Produced by Dr. Luke and Benny Blanco)
    12. Criminal (Produced by Max Martin and Shellback)

    The Deluxe version of “Femme Fatale” will include four additional tracks:
    13. Up N’ Down (Produced by Max Martin, Shellback and Oligee)
    14. He About To Lose Me (Produced by Rodney “Darkchild” Jerkins)
    15. Selfish (Produced by Stargate, and Sandy Vee)
    16. Don’t Keep Me Waiting (Produced by Rodney “Darkchild” Jerkins)

  • Elliegrll

    VH1 Playlist Week of 3/07/11

    ON
    CRYSTAL BOWERSOX “Farmer’s Daughter”
    JENNIFER HUDSON “Where You At”

    ADDS
    JENNIFER HUDSON “Where You At”

    Jennifer Hudson’s song has also been added to MTV Hits playlist.

  • Eileen99

    Farmer’s Daughter is still on the voting page for the VH1 countdown. Kind of sad it’s been available to vote for but hasn’t made the top 20 for two straight weeks. I don’t remember an Idol video being on the voting page but not in the countdown in the midst of its run, but I’m sure it’s happened before. Usually, fans are complaining when videos are pulled while still on the countdown. I’m to the point I want all S9 singles to go away before I die of boredom watching them.

    Tomorrow will be interesting on the Country chart. Windmills, would either of the songs have an advantage for Saturday airplay? I’m assuming they’d both be on all the countdown shows, but is one song getting more play on any syndicated weekend shows, if you know?

    Oh, and iTunes was nice enough to email me this morning that my Kris Allen iTunes Pass is now complete. So much fail with that iTunes Pass, this email just caps it off nicely.

    ETA: Thanks for the info on Britney’s new CD. I won’t be buying it, but I hope it’s a big winner for Jive. They need it.

  • steph6449

    Crystal’s single seems to be stuck or slightly sliding on AAA, but the numbers are soooo small not sure how you can tell when it really becomes a significant trend in that format.

    If she doesn’t go any higher, she won’t quite have broken the AAA top 40. Maybe that’s a good result though in AAA for a brand new artist, not sure. AAA seems like quite a different beast than most of the other charts tracked here for AI alums…

  • tripp_ncwy

    Oh, and iTunes was nice enough to email me this morning that my Kris Allen iTunes Pass is now complete. So much fail with that iTunes Pass, this email just caps it off nicely.

    I am right there with ya. I got my email also. I don’t get it either why Crystal’s video is still on the voting list after not being on the countdown for two weeks. It may be that its one of the countdown contenders just outside the top 20. They no longer give the countdown contenders anymore.

  • Eileen99

    Chris Medina’s single is hanging in there at #42 on iTunes.

    AT 40 HAC countdown from Pulse:

    TW LW Weeks on

    35 34 (54) Adam Lambert-Whatya Want From Me

    25 20 (36) Daughtry-September

    10 11 (05) Pink-Perfect
    09 09 (13) Sick Puppies-Maybe
    08 08 (31) Neon Trees-Animal
    07 07 (18) Christina Perri-Jar of Hearts
    06 06 (26) Plain White T’s-Rhythm of Love
    05 05 (16) Train-Marry Me
    04 03 (28) OneRepublic-Secrets
    03 04 (22) Bruno Mars-Just The Way You Are
    Optional Extra: Jordin Sparks-Tattoo
    02 02 (19) Pink-Raise Your Glass
    01 01 (12) Katy Perry-Firework (3 weeks at #1)

    Interesting Jordin’s song was one of the extras. Anyone know how these songs are selected?

  • Elliegrll

    I am right there with ya. I got my email also. I don’t get it either why Crystal’s video is still on the voting list after not being on the countdown for two weeks. It may be that its one of the countdown contenders just outside the top 20. They no longer give the countdown contenders anymore.

    It’s still on the voting list because it is still on the station’s overall playlist. Not every video that they play makes it onto the countdown. What’s really surprising is that they reduced it’s rotation to their lowest level over a month ago, which usually means that they are about to drop a video, but they haven’t dropped it yet.

  • Elliegrll

    Crystal’s single seems to be stuck or slightly sliding on AAA, but the numbers are soooo small not sure how you can tell when it really becomes a significant trend in that format.

    It’s hard to come to any conclusions based on the spins, but I think the drop in AI, even though that was never a huge number either, has to mean something. Plus, no new AAA station has played the song in four weeks. That’s a huge sign that the song is done.

    If she doesn’t go any higher, she won’t quite have broken the AAA top 40. Maybe that’s a good result though in AAA for a brand new artist, not sure. AAA seems like quite a different beast than most of the other charts tracked here for AI alums…

    I don’t see how a song never getting more than 60 spins per week can be seen as okay for anyone. I do still feel like radio isn’t as important for people who are releasing Crystal’s type of music, but I don’t think that we can say that she’s been completely accepted by Triple A radio, or that FD is a radio hit.

  • Eileen99

    Elliegrll, do you remember how many AAA stations played her song? I think there are 28 monitored stations. Maybe a better indication of acceptance by the format would be % of the panel that played FD as opposed to overall number of spins, since AAA plays so much recurrent music.

  • windmills

    Eileen99: Tomorrow will be interesting on the Country chart. Windmills, would either of the songs have an advantage for Saturday airplay? I’m assuming they’d both be on all the countdown shows, but is one song getting more play on any syndicated weekend shows, if you know?

    The one factor that I can think of is a small countdown one. Last week TICM got an extra countdown spin on Country Countdown USA as the “hot song” which it will lose this week. Most stations that air CCUSA do it on Sunday but some air it on Saturday. On those stations TICM will lose the extra spin. Also Jason Aldean is actually cohosting CCUSA this week. Usually when somebody cohosts they play an extra song of theirs and more often than not, that extra song is another spin for their current single. I haven’t listened to the countdown this week but if Jason plays DYWS then that’d be a syndicated spin gained compared to TICM’s syndicated spin lost.

    I don’t know how big a factor it’ll be in tomorrow’s update though because I don’t remember TICM making too big a jump last Saturday (the big effect was on Sunday for the morning update Monday). But even still it seems like DYWS should have the advantage today. It’ll be tight. I think if Broken Bow got Jason on CCUSA this week then it’s because they’re fighting to get the Mediabase #1 too.

    Another syndicated show on Saturday is Big Time With Whitney Allen at night. I haven’t seen anything about Brad being a guest there tonight though but that’d be something to keep an eye on.

  • Elliegrll

    Elliegrll, do you remember how many AAA stations played her song?

    Six. She also has two unmonitored Triple A stations that are playing it.

  • Trina

    It’s really weird not to have any Idols on the VH1 countdown around this time.

    Ridiculously excited about Brit’s CD! She’s one of Jive’s biggest moneymakers and biggest stars. She deserves the best in producers.

  • bentley1530

    Britney’s CD list looks like they put a ton of money into it because most of those producers get paid around 100 thousand per track (perhaps there is a discount rate for multiple tracks?) I love the new single. I think is it going to be major.

  • girlygirl

    Maybe that’s why Jive doesn’t seem to promote their other artists very much — they spent all their money on making Britney’s album.

    I’m joking (sort of)

  • Elliegrll

    Maybe that’s why Jive doesn’t seem to promote their other artists very much — they spent all their money on making Britney’s album.

    I’m joking (sort of)

    I’ve seen some fans of other Jive artists tweet some nasty things to them in regards to Britney getting a new single so soon, as well as how much money they’ve spent on her, but what they fail to realize is that Britney is a proven brand. Jive knows that her name alone will result in her selling a certain amount of records, even if she doesn’t have a hit song on the radio. And just based on her name, stations will jump to play her songs, and people will be willing to sample her album to see if they want to buy it.

  • Andy11

    Jive spends no money on their other artists probably so they can make enough of a profit to pay the bills. They may make the big money of Britney but having all of their eggs in that particular basket is a little dicey.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Jive spends no money on their other artists probably so they can make enough of a profit to pay the bills. They may make the big money of Britney but having all of their eggs in that particular basket is a little dicey.

    Well, in 2010 it was all about Usher. In 2011, it looks now like it will be Britney #1 & Chris Brown #2.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Eh, Jive also has Pink, Usher and Justin Timberlake (who will probably go back to music this year). But yeah, Britney is certainly their most important project of the year.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Jive added new artist to its lineup this weekend, Wish (R&B/Pop). Could this be a Ciara replacement? Ciara & David A. are still listed on their artist roster.

  • Indigobunting

    Does CMT Pure 12-pack ever change their line-up? Crystal and Bo have been 1/2 for weeks. Not that I mind, love both of them, but that just surprises me.

    Yes, songs stay on there forever. They only took Danny’s last single off there when Crystals went on (and that song was done last September, lol). It is all fan voted too, and quite easy to stay at the top if fans want to. In contrast to GAC, where 1 vote per day, strictly enforced. I think Bo has done well on that one. Don’t think they ever put Crystal up there (as far as I know), but GAC is strictly country, vs CMT which features other artists (I think it is a subsidiary of MTV).

  • tripp_ncwy

    Justin Timberlake has said he may spend some time in the studio this summer but has no plans to release anything anytime soon. (MTV & CNN)

  • girlygirl

    I realize Britney is one of Jive’s biggest moneymakers. I don’t care that much about her getting the huge push with her album and singles, and with them spending a boatload of money on her producers and songwriters. She has proven that she deserves this.

    I just wish they would pay more attention to their artists who are further down the food chain (especially Kris — of course :) )

    But I know that Jive isn’t the only label who focuses on the bigger moneymakers, sometimes at the expense of the newer/less established artists. It’s one part of the business that just really is frustrating, unfortunately…

  • steph6449

    Yeah, IWNSG was on the CMT Pure voting list for a very long time, maybe close to six months.
    .

    For Crystal’s single, I was curious what a typical range might be for new artists who are trying to enter the AAA chart. Do many get into the top 40, so it should be a concern Crystal has not (so far, anyway)? Or is the top 40 usually chockful of established artists / slow-to-exit songs so relatively few newbies can sneak in, and it’s a pretty good result to have made even the top 50.

  • Eileen99

    Windmills, thanks. I might try to check out those syndicated spins later if I have time. Jason being on to co-host that countdown show this weekend is an interesting *coincidence*, hope it pays off. Seems like a good way for the label to push a song as opposed to spending money on ads, at least I’m assuming getting Jason on the show to co-host doesn’t cost them anything other than maybe calling in a few favors. From watching the chart & your previous comments, it seems as though DYWS has enough natural momentum to stay at the top for a while, but Brad’s label may not have the will to fight for the top spot much longer if they’re intending to release another single soon.

    I have no idea if a AAA chart watcher would consider FD’s run successful or not to this point; getting play on roughly a quarter of the panel doesn’t seem great to me, but I don’t honestly know much about that format to be able judge the success.

  • Elliegrll

    I have no idea if a AAA chart watcher would consider FD’s run successful or not to this point; getting play on roughly a quarter of the panel doesn’t seem great to me, but I don’t honestly know much about that format to be able judge the success.

    Six stations that are all pretty much giving it two spins per day, with at least one of those spins coming overnight, doesn’t seem like a success to me.

  • steph6449

    Is this the first time an AI alum has seriously been working the AAA radio market? Not sure if there are any past precedents.

  • Eileen99

    Six stations that are all pretty much giving it two spins per day, with at least one of those spins coming overnight, doesn’t seem like a success to me.

    LOL, me neither, but who knows? For a new artist breaking into what some perceive as a bit of a snooty format, though, it might be terrific. Maybe she’s being forced to pay her dues and the next single might receive more play, I have no idea, I’m pretty much making this up as I go along, ha. I hope they release a second single to the format, though, so we can see what happens with it.

  • Eileen99

    Is this the first time an AI alum has seriously been working the AAA radio market? Not sure if there are any past precedents.

    LLWD got a very small nibble from AAA, but it was never sent for adds there. At the time, I think Kirsten said no other alums had gotten any or much interest from the format. There are a lot of Idols whose music could fit the playlist, at least the station I occasionally listen to in Seattle, but for reasons I’ve only seen speculated upon, it’s not happened.

  • Andy11

    Releasing Farmer’s Daughter as the first single seemed more about showing that Crystal is not a cookie cutter Idol. May have been successful for that but it would be good to follow up now with something more cheerful–Mine All Mine maybe given the Opry performance. Jive Records just tweeted the link to the Opry performance–don’t know if that means anything.

  • car3278sweet

    I think Mine All Mine would be a great choice for Crystal’s next single. It’s one of my favorites. It’s quite country, it’s pretty and catchy.

    But I suppose it depends on where Jive wants to take her. Will they push the country connection a bit more because AAA doesn’t seem to be latching onto her? Or will they try one more attempt to pry AAA open with a tune like Speak Now?

    I’d be astonished if Jive went with Hold On at this point. Crystal just is not a pop queen. Good for her. My bet is she’ll be around long after Katy Perry has vanished.

  • tripp_ncwy

    HDD Sales Estimates;

    “After exploding onto the chart this week, Adele repeats at #1 with a second-week drop of less than 60% – a somewhat rare occurrence, especially for a title with such a large digital component.”

    Adele (XL/Columbia) 145-160k
    *Marsha Ambrosius (J/RMG) 85-90k
    Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 55-60k
    Justin Bieber Never Say Never (Island/IDJ) 50-55k
    Now 37 (Capitol/EMI) 50-55k
    *Dropkick Murphys (Dropkick Murphys/ILG) 35-40k|
    Bruno Mars (New Elektra) 30-35k
    *Aaron Lewis (Stroudavarious) 30-35k
    Justin Bieber My World 2.0 (Island/IDJ) 30-35k
    Nicki Minaj (Young Money/Cash Money/Universal Motown) 28-32k
    Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 28-32k
    Pink (LaFace/JLG) 27-30k
    Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 24-27k
    Katy Perry (Capitol/EMI) 24-27k
    Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 21-24k
    *Lucinda Williams (Lost Highway) 21-24k
    Lady Antebellum (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 21-24k

    *Debuts (3/3p)

  • mozart4898

    I honestly have to say that I myself, even as a Crystal fan, didn’t think Farmer’s Daughter was going to be a radio hit. It would have been nice to see it catch on a bit more, but the fact that it’s gotten some play at all on AAA and HAC, and that the video has in fact gotten some play as well, is probably as good as anyone could expect. It’s not a “happy” sort of song as everyone knows, it’s hard to really find a format it fits well, and even if it did fit AAA or country well, Jive isn’t a label that’s known for either sort of artist so even if they were 100% behind the single, they may not have the contacts or the pull to help it as much as, say, a pop single.

    car3278sweet:
    03/05/2011 at 7:05 pm
    I think Mine All Mine would be a great choice for Crystal’s next single. It’s one of my favorites. It’s quite country, it’s pretty and catchy.

    But I suppose it depends on where Jive wants to take her. Will they push the country connection a bit more because AAA doesn’t seem to be latching onto her? Or will they try one more attempt to pry AAA open with a tune like Speak Now?

    I’d be astonished if Jive went with Hold On at this point. Crystal just is not a pop queen. Good for her. My bet is she’ll be around long after Katy Perry has vanished.

    I’m another one who votes for Mine All Mine as the 2nd single. My only thought is, does the song have any potential on anything other than country…because it doesn’t seem they’ve set her up for country radio at this point. Would Mine All Mine have any chance on AAA? I don’t have a AAA station around me, but from what I’ve seen of playlists, it’s a pretty eclectic format.

    And to be honest, while I like Speak Now, something about the song seems…off to me when I listen to it on the album. I really think of all the tracks on the album it suffers the most from bigger instrumentation and production. The acoustic version is so much more powerful in some ways. I guess if you’ve never heard the acoustic, that obviously wouldn’t be the case, but I just feel the song went way more blues/rock on the album than the original folk/country feel it had. If it’s something that AAA might play, that’d be great, but I don’t feel like it’s a good single choice at all. In fact, I’d put it near the bottom of the album tracks as a potential single…Riding With the Radio, Holy Toledo, Lonely, Hold On, On the Run, Kiss Ya, and Mine All Mine all seem like better potential radio songs to me. (I’ve even wondered if she might possibly get some mileage out of her take on For What It’s Worth…at least on rock radio like I frequently listen to, specifically “active rock” as I’ve found the format is called, artists/bands sometimes get play for covers.)

    Hmm…and I realize that makes it sound like I don’t like Speak Now. Lol…I do…but I just don’t think it’d be a good single choice, at all.

  • sr4mjc

    Pink, LOL

    hahahaha. I’m the slow song RT @butchwalker Why does almost all of the iTunes top 10 sound Like the soundtrack to Night at the Roxbury?????

  • Elliegrll

    If Crystal releases a song that fits better on country stations than it does on Triple A, won’t that mess up all of the work that she’s done trying to get Triple A fans and radio insiders to accept her? She wants them to take her seriously, but that’s not going to happen if she doesn’t have a set musical identity.

    I still think that the bigger question is what plans do Jive or Sony have for Crystal, and how do they view what’s happened with her album and single over the past few months.

  • easyrider707

    To my knowledge, based on earlier MJ posts, no other Idol has ever placed in the Top 50 on AAA. Some newer artists work their way on AAAafter many years (Avett Brothers added last year after 9 years and several albums, F+M Lungs added almost 2 years after album release, etc.). But, yes the new REM and Gregg Allman albums will be immediately picked up -same goes for Springsteen, Rolling Stones, etc.). Think of AAA this way for ease – folks in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame get their songs up quicker. You earn your right to belong and represent. For an Idol to garish this type of respect even in the top 50 is a significant accomplishment – very significant.

    Furthermore, to play Rocks most fabled stage – the Fillmore West followed by a performance at the most fabled stage in Country MUSIC AT THE grand Ole Opry (to a standing ovation) is equally unbelievable in a brief 9 month period from AI. Probably another Idol first. And to do this and release your own songs, another Idol first, is truly incredible. I think CB knows exactly what type of artist she wants to be and GO is right on target – as a fan I am extraordinarily happy in ever way given this foundation. Very old school, yet very clever.

    On a second note, this week is the 55 year anniversary of Elvis Pressley,s first COUNTRY #1 hit – Love Me Tender. PLEASE RECALL elvis is the King of Rock and Roll and alter put out some great gospel.

  • easyrider707

    Ellegrll – many artists who are on AAA are on country radio also (Avett Bothers, Eagles, Darius Rucker, etc.) You do not ruin AAA by playing to country also.

  • Elliegrll

    Ellegrll – many artists who are on AAA are on country radio also (Avett Bothers, Eagles, Darius Rucker, etc.) You do not ruin AAA by playing to country also.

    mozart4898 said that Crystal should release a song that might not get played on AAA. My point is that considering that only six stations have picked up FD so far, wouldn’t releasing a song that doesn’t fit that format just cement the idea that she’s really not a Triple A type of artist? The difference between the acts that you mentioned and Crystal is that they are already established, and don’t have to prove themselves to consumers or fans, but since Crystal does, wouldn’t it make more sense to release a song that fits both formats.

  • Elliegrll

    easyrider707, Carrie didn’t have any trouble being accepted by the people at the Opry. She was inducted in 2008, which was just three years after she came off of AI.

    As far as getting into the top 50 on Triple A, Crystal is the only idol to have her music pushed to that format, and I still find it hard to say that this is a big accomplishment based on only six stations playing the song. She also had it released to HAC, and didn’t get any adds on that format on the add date, and only five adds overall.

  • springboard

    As far as getting into the top 50 on Triple A, Crystal is the only idol to have her music pushed to that format, and I still find it hard to say that this is a big accomplishment based on only six stations playing the song. She also had it released to HAC, and didn’t get any adds on that format on the add date, and only five adds overall.

    I have to agree. I am also not surprised as considering the AAA chart, I don’t think that FD is a good fit for the format.
    To me as a song that tells a story and has a country arrangement, country is the only format I would see it doing well. If country radio doesn’t embrace the song for whatever reason (lack of contacts, insufficient push by the label, Crystal image is not right or else ), Crystal has a problem.

    Other album tracks may be a better fit for AAA or HAC like those mentioned, Mine All Mine for example.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Mediabase (rolling)

    US

    AC
    2 2 DAUGHTRY September 1832 1734 98 10.899

    HAC

    43 42 KIMBERLY CALDWELL Desperate Girls & St… 193 174 19 0.216

    Adult Hits
    21 23 DAUGHTRY September 52 53 -1 0.152
    29 28 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 40 41 -1 0.306
    34 34 DAUGHTRY No Surprise 33 34 -1 0.149

    Country
    2 1 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 5722 5411 311 41.489

    Top 40
    35 35 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 1403 1161 242 7.743

    AAA
    42 47 CRYSTAL BOWERSOX Farmer’s Daughter 60 62 -2 0.081

    Urban
    22 21 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1216 1112 104 6.634

    Urban AC
    6 7 FANTASIA I’m Doin’ Me 1526 1620 -94 9.536
    13 9 JENNIFER HUDSON Where You At 1130 747 383 7.542
    26 27 CHARLIE WILSON f/FANTASIA I Wanna Be Your Man … 216 226 -10 1.203

    Rhythmic
    43 36 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 819 674 145 4.177

    Canadian

    Top 40
    28 28 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 418 408 10 3.004

    HAC
    31 33 JENNIFER LOPEZ F/PITBULL On The Floor 241 242 -1 1.625

    Main-AC
    8 9 DAUGHTRY September 277 285 -8 1.635

    Country
    2 1 JASON ALDEAN/KELLY CLARKSON Don’t You Wanna Stay 821 771 50 2.986

  • windmills

    springboard: I have to agree. I am also not surprised as considering the AAA chart, I don’t think that FD is a good fit for the format.
    To me as a song that tells a story and has a country arrangement, country is the only format I would see it doing well. If country radio doesn’t embrace the song for whatever reason (lack of contacts, insufficient push by the label, Crystal image is not right or else ), Crystal has a problem.

    I disagree that FD has a country arrangement. The background singers and some of the other instruments make it almost pop/rock. I think it could have and SHOULD have been produced more raw and acoustic and it would’ve sounded more country then. The raw song is folk enough and wouldn’t be a bad fit for country.

    On one hand using FD’s exposure on the country TV channels as a jumping off point for radio might make sense. But I feel like they’d be better off using the buzz from Crystal’s Opry debut with Mine All Mine. The problem is MAM is a little generic even though it’s pretty. FD stands out more but the production messes it up. Maybe if Crystal rerecorded it.

    Just to add to the intrigue Jimmy (not the former President) Carter (an entertainment reporter on Music Row) thinks Crystal’s looking for some kind of deal in Nashville. Apparently she met with John Rich (who’s a grade A douchebag) and impressed him. I really hope that if she signs a country promo deal or whatever, she signs with somebody else.

    On another note looking at country Mediabase, Jason/Kelly held on to #1 and extended their lead over Brad’s This Is Country Music! The lead’s now >250 points and that’s enough to be safe from anything weird happening in the afternoon update. So it’s pretty much official, DYWS will end the week Mediabase #1 and Billboard #1. Brad announced his next single at the Sony boat show and I expect Old Alabama will be sent out to radio soon because his window for #1 has now closed. Congrats Jason/Kelly!

  • car3278sweet

    Riding With the Radio, Holy Toledo, Lonely, Hold On, On the Run, Kiss Ya, and Mine All Mine

    Well, if we’re aiming for AAA than I don’t think Riding with the Radio or Lonely are going to do it. RR is total country and Lonely is… annoying. LOL. But also IMHO a bit perky and cutesy for AAA. Hold On is the closest we get to pop – not a staple of AAA either. Holy Toledo… well, it’s a fantastic song but I don’t know, it’s kind of in the vein of FD.. another really personal and angsty song. Hm. Maybe that should be the way to go – reinforce her FD image.

    Just to add to the intrigue Jimmy (not the former President) Carter (an entertainment reporter on Music Row) thinks Crystal’s looking for some kind of deal in Nashville. Apparently she met with John Rich (who’s a grade A douchebag) and impressed him. I really hope that if she signs a country promo deal or whatever, she signs with somebody else.

    Interesting. Puzzling, but kind of par for the course for Crystal. She’s a bit of everything and no one seems to know where to put her. Her fans all say this is fantastic and shows you how great she is. But I worry. This isn’t about artistic freedom. This is about how to “sell” an artist. I think you need an identity – a clear picture of who you are and what kind of music you make to start out of the gate.

    So… FD established that Crystal wasn’t your average AI contestant – which seemed very important to her. Great. Now what? Now, from what windmills reports, she’s actively working the country connections? She’s going to straddle AAA and country? And to my initial thought that MAM would be a good second single- would this just fizzle any progress she’s made in the AAA world? And it is strong enough to make a real impression in the country world? Is Crystal going to Jive AAA and enRICH country? Is this the plan?

    I’m not sure that this is going to work. I hope so, Crystal is talented. But it seems all a bit confusing to me at this point, and if I wasn’t a fan, I might just check out and forget about her.

  • girlygirl

    I might be way off base here, but it seems to me that Crystal & her management team want to focus more on the country market right now. It doesn’t look like her playing at that AAA event for radio stations execs helped her much in terms of immediate additional radio play in that format, so maybe they have decided that they need to try and establish her in a format that will lead to more radio play and possibly bigger venues when she starts touring? They can pick whatever song they think might be able to do the best on country radio and hope that because of FD it might get some spins on AAA as well.

    It could just be that FD is simply too depressing of a song to work as a single, no matter what format you push it too, since no country stations have picked it up despite the video being played on CMT.

  • girlygirl

    I also disagree about Crystal being the only Idol suited for AAA. If their management had taken the time to really push them to that format, I believe several of them, most recently David Cook and Kris, and possibly Lee, could have had similar success — or maybe even better success — in that format than Crystal (depending on the song, of course). But we will likely never know, since their management seems uninterested in doing that.

    YMMV, of course

  • tinawina

    I believe several of them, most recently David Cook and Kris, and possibly Lee, could have had similar success — or maybe even better success — in that format than Crystal (depending on the song, of course).

    I disagree. I think they all have the talent but they didn’t really release the kinds of albums that format embraces… in fact, I think Kris might have come the closest. Still, Crystal is exactly what a AAA artist would need to be IMO. But they don’t like Farmers Daughter and there is no way to spin that. That song did not work. Its a good song but apparently, nit a good single.

    I could see her going more in county direction promo wise going forward. I think they should just figure out what on the record makes a good single and go in whatever direction it takes.

  • Indigobunting

    Its a good song but apparently, nit a good single.

    I think it is a really good song too and surprised it hasn’t done better, but I just think it is tough for Idol’s to shoot to the top these days. Idol saturation, IMO. When Carrie came out, there weren’t many Idols floating around saturating the market with the Idol “name”.

    I just listened to her album on the way to the store, and the more I listen to it, the more folk/rock it sounds to me. The Pretender’s last album (Break Up the Concrete) had a lot of country influence in it, as do many alt rock/folk rock artists, but I think it would be a stretch to try and get an individual country sounding song played on country radio, when the album clearly is not. IMO.
    Country would never play Ridin on the Radio (listen to the lyrics, lol- only talks about good ole, rock n roll, rythym & blues and soul-never mentions country in that company; plus it says what they play on the radio is s**t.
    Maybe Arlene? But it seems like rock/folk acts that are played on country radio started out having a big hit or was doing really well in another genre first.
    She still seems a much better fit on triple A to me; and the non-Ohio appearances they are booking her for are all geared that way.

    Perhaps it is a victory they played her at all and they will play single #2 more? Especially as she appears more live- she has kind of had a slow start IMO, with concert appearances. Three months after her album dropped already. Did we ever even hear about her Bluebird Cafe? Was there a review? Lots of questions, lol.

  • steph6449

    It does seem a little weird to me that neither Lee, Crystal or Casey are fully out there touring yet with their own bands. I guess Lee is about to start with some college dates, and he does have a full band now? Crystal seems to be doing individual dates, and I gather does not have a full band yet. Casey is out doing some larger dates, but the thing with the session players is a little strange.

    Not sure what all the reasons may be, but doesn’t seem quite fair to me that they haven’t been able to do that many tour appearances until now with their new music and their own bands dedicated to trying to help them succeed :?

    I’m not sure how country PDs would react to a Crystal single being offered for adds to country radio. (Which was not done as far as I know with FD.) Most of Crystal’s ventures into country music have been centrally driven, with CMT and the -spontaneous Opry appearance. Would country stations be willing to take their lead from that, or view it is being pushed on them? They seem kind of an independent group in a lot of ways. Plus it is just tough for a new female solo artist, even with a clear country music sound and background, and a country label backing them, to make much headway into country radio. One is doing it now, but that’s pretty much a rarity.

  • Andy11

    The three songs Crystal wrote post Idol (MIne All Mine, Arlene, and Riding with the Radio) are also the most country. I saw an interview a few months ago in which she pointed out the songs she had been writing recently would be great country songs “but they don’t want to market me as a country artist and that’s OK.” I assumed at the time that “they” was her label. If now things are changing could Sony move her contract to one of their country or folkish labels (assuming they believe she has potential)?

  • Indigobunting

    If now things are changing could Sony move her contract to one of their country or folkish labels (assuming they believe she has potential)?

    That would be interesting. Has Sony ever done that with an Idol; switched to a different genre within the Sony family?

  • larc

    Have Lee fans heard any news about a 2nd single yet? Maybe MJ should start an Office Pool to guess when. It’s starting to look as if one choice should probably be “Won’t get one!” Seriously, RCA needs to get busy and release one so it can hopefully get a little traction by the time Lee is on Idol.

  • Elliegrll

    That would be interesting. Has Sony ever done that with an Idol; switched to a different genre within the Sony family?

    I think that if Sony feels that there is a market for Crystal in country music, then they won’t hesitate to move her contract to one of their other labels. I think the question is, have they seen anything that would indicate that she fits in that genre, and that country stations will play her music.

  • artemis

    I think Lee is scheduled to appear on Idol March 31st. Lee had a twitter party last night and mentioned his new single,”soon new single coming out, really excited for that ” so I assume he will be playing it then.