Top 9 Results Show Wrap Up – Where do the Contestants Stand?

I know I’ve been a broken record this season, but I can’t give up on Matt yet. I think it’s in him to blow everyone off the stage. I just hope he can do it.

I think I know Anoops game plan. I think he’s gonna start REALLY showcasing EVERYTHING he has the next coming weeks! I can’t wait to see it all :wub_tb:

Adam, Kris, Allison, Matt, Anoop

I would LOVE that top 5.

Hmmm. I really don’t know that Scott will make it to top 5. I think (hope) his time may be up in the next couple of weeks. Anoop and Allison may well get a bounce back vote from having hit bottom three this week which could leave Scott suddenly bottom of the heap and out before his fans get any warning that they need to mobilise. I’ve seen it happen before.

Or perhaps I’m just clutching at straws :laugh_tb:

ANOOP stands firmly at #1 in my list!!! ANOOP FTW!!!!!!
I’ll keep watching as long as Anoop keeps performing!!!!

Amen, Q – that’s right!

Kris
Adam
Matt
Allison

My hopes for the Top 4. I don’t really care when or in what order anyone else leaves. I just want these to be the last four.

I think I know Anoops game plan. I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gonna start REALLY showcasing EVERYTHING he has the next coming weeks! I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait to see it all

Me too. It will very exciting to see it all unfold! Like I’ve said before, Anoop is a clever one, as well as the most talented one, IMO!!!

I’ve gotta think that one of these three — Matt, Anoop, or Allison — will boot Scott (or Lil, but more likely Scott) from the Top 5. Better yet, two of them boot both!

Sadly, I don’t think Danny’s going ANYWHERE. It would be an absolute miracle if someone could oust Danny from the Top 2. I think Kris is the only one who could POSSIBLY do it, but it’s not likely. If it doesn’t, I’ll be voting my fingers off for Lambert, because I will break my TV if Gokey takes the title.

What genre will Gokey be anyway? Contemporary Christian? Like Idol really wants to get into that market.

Go Kris Go… be our TPTB upset!

just sayin
Apr 4th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Kris
Adam
Matt
Allison

My hopes for the Top 4. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really care when or in what order anyone else leaves. I just want these to be the last four.

This would be my preference for the Top 4, with Anoop taking 5th. I don’t think it’ll happen, though. :(

Either Matt or Anoop are probably heading out the door next week, but Allison wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be far behind, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m afraid.

Who Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to be in the Top 5: Adam, Kris, Allison, Matt, Anoop
Who will be in the Top 5: Adam, Danny, Lil, Kris, Scott

I’m in complete agreement with you MJ. But I’m SOOOO bummed to agree with your predictions.
Nonetheless, I will continue to hold out hope that somehow, Matt, Anoop and Allison will miraculously beat the odds and start gaining fans and momentum. But wow, that ideal top five is kind of a pipe dream right now, isn’t it? Sigh. :downer_ee:

I’m all for Kris winning the entire thing. He’s got momentum. He has musicality. I’d totally love it. I wouldn’t, however, be upset if Adam won. I just don’t see anybody else owning the season. I’d like Danny or Lil to go next week. Yup, I could live with another week of Scott for that to happen. Not that I think it will happen, but it might even get me excited enough to vote and/or download a song or two.

I’m honestly afraid Allison will go before her time. She really needs to show something different to show America why we should keep her. Lil needs to show nothing. She’s the African American diva. That will get her much further than she deserves. Allison, however, as the “rocker chick” needs to show she has much more.

In any event, it will be interesting. Such a great season to have no investment!

The only one I still care about is Allison, so I’m expecting her to leave soon.

I should be studying but instead I’m thinking about this damned show. WTF, brain?

“Sadly, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going ANYWHERE. It would be an absolute miracle if someone could oust Danny from the Top 2. I think Kris is the only one who could POSSIBLY do it, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not likely. If it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be voting my fingers off for Lambert, because I will break my TV if Gokey takes the title.”

I’m hoping he just comes out next week and shows his personality. When the general viewers see what a smarmy douche is his, hopefully they’ll auf him. The reactions I’ve been seeing about his nasty impression of Matt on Wednesday haven’t been good. So Danny, show more of that side of your personality. Thanks.

Once my horse is out of the race, I won’t be voting any more, and will probably just catch the performance vids online. I won’t even vote if it’s a Gokey/Lambert finale. In fact, I hope Danny wins and AI gets stuck with less likeable, less marketable, less talented Taylor Hicks (no offense to Taylor, I lkie the guy but he hasn’t been the most successful Idol). They deserve him after all of the manipulative bullshit they’ve pulled this year.

Although, if I watch next year, then I’ll have to see his smugass face on the backdrops/posters/etc.

I wonder if Scott will get the pimp spot next week? Technically he is due for it, everyone one else has had it so far. If Scott gets the pimp spot, then I think that his chances of going home next week will be even lower than what they already are.

I think they should have Adam go first next week, since he has gotten to perform towards the end of the show, more often than anyone else. Kris should go second because he got the pimp spot last week. Anoop should perform no earlier than 6th, but hopefully 7th or later, since he got the death spot last week.

The only one I still care about is Allison, so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m expecting her to leave soon.

LOL me too. Well I kind of like Adam too, but Allison’s the one.

I’m thinking that with Miley in her corner, and all the accolades she’s getting from everywhere, she’s going to be just fine and doesn’t need to win.

If it’s indeed an Adam/Danny final 2, which of the remaining idols’ fans would you expect Adam or Danny to pick up?

Would Anoop/Mat/Kris/Allison fans vote for Adam and Lil/Scott fans vote for Danny?

I’m still holding out hope for a dark horse…I love Adam, but I don’t completely picture him taking the title.

I hope Allison will turn out to be our Syesha Mercado this year…she may be in the bottom quite a few times, but she’ll make it close to the top! =)

Maybe Allison will garner more votes this week, since now we’re just down to 2 girls? *crosses fingers*

Who Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to be in the Top 5: Adam, Kris, Allison, Matt, Anoop

This my my top 5 also:)

I’m not giving up on Anoop. I’m still rooting for him. I just hope he hits it out of the park next week. This is a crucial week for him and I have faith he will.

If ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s indeed an Adam/Danny final 2, which of the remaining idolsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fans would you expect Adam or Danny to pick up?

I’m expecting Adam to pick them all. Really I do. At this point, I don’t see how anyone wins over Adam. I’m thinking Adam wins and goes with Jive, Gokey comes 2nd and goes with Arista/RCA, Gokey flops and is dropped faster than Blake, Adam is the 2nd coming of Lady Gaga.

Or something like that.

Sadly, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going ANYWHERE. It would be an absolute miracle if someone could oust Danny from the Top 2. I think Kris is the only one who could POSSIBLY do it, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not likely. If it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be voting my fingers off for Lambert, because I will break my TV if Gokey takes the title.

I definitely don’t think that Danny will be going anywhere anytime soon. I think that he has managed to be in the top 4 of Dial Idol every single week of this competition. And quite a few times, he has been ranked 1, and also 2. Even in the weeks he hasn’t done so well, and he has been ranked above Adam, even when IMO, Adam has performed better than he has.

This is way too pessimistic for me.
Scott has been consistently one of the lowest vote getters on DI and now he is supposed to last until top 5? His performances won’t carry him there, he had his best last week and didn’t rise much above the rest (on DI at least). His talent is way below average.
I’ve already said what I think of Lil/Allison in another thread.

Adam (he deserves it) and Danny (not so much) are going to make the top 5 no matter what, I agree, but the rest is completely open.

What a difference a week makes. For me, anyway. I’m not invested in anyone, but my opinion on the season still keeps changing. A couple weeks ago I was ready to write this season off as one big dull mess. Motown week changed my mind–there are some talents to watch. And then this last week, well, I’m back thinking this season is one of the worst ever.

Interesting take, MJ. Can’t say I disagree with any of it.

I wonder if Scott will get the pimp spot next week? Technically he is due for it, everyone one else has had it so far.

Oh, god. No. Please, no. Usually they try to put a good upbeat performance at the end, or one that will have impact. Scott is a nice guy, but ending the show with two minutes of Yacht Rock doesn’t really make the best closer, ya know?

Lil hasn’t had it since the semis. Anoop had it in the wildcard, but that was a non-voting round. I don’t think Adam’s had it since the semis either, but he’s usually closer to the end of the show anyway.

Nonetheless, I will continue to hold out hope that somehow, Matt, Anoop and Allison will miraculously beat the odds and start gaining fans and momentum. But wow, that ideal top five is kind of a pipe dream right now, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it? Sigh

I’m holding out hope with you. Like I said in the other thread, I *so* hope those three nail it this week, and that the judges are forced to give them their dues. But both Matt and Anoop seem sort of like they’ve had the life beat out of them. Cheer up, dudes! Your mission is to dispose of Gokey! That’ll be fun!

Danica, who is your horse in the race?

bluemartini, I totally agree. I posted that as my Facebook status the other night, about Allison hopefully pulling a Syesha.

Jx223, I agree that Scott will probably get the pimp spot — especially since they lauded his performance last week as his best. I really hope they don’t bury Kris at the beginning of the show, because he was buried in the first half for ALL of the top 13 onward, except for last week. Maybe a mid-show placement would be fair? Allison should get a late show placement, as should Anoop. Lil’s been at the back of the show a few times recently, so she could go at the beginning. And obviously, same with Adam. I’d like to see the performance order be Adam, Lil, Matt, Danny, Kris, Anoop, Allison, Scott. I think that’d be fair considering the contestants’ placements lately.

Lil hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had it since the semis. Anoop had it in the wildcard, but that was a non-voting round. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s had it since the semis either, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s usually closer to the end of the show anyway.

I sure hope Lil and Scott doesn’t get the pimp spot. Adam always performs in the second half of the show, so I’m pretty sure he’ll be in the first half this week. That leaves me crossing my fingers that Anoop gets it this week since he was in the B2.

I like your top 5 mj

but im afraid that danny wont leave the effing show any time soon.
the judges are so biased that he can take a crap on stage and kara nad paula will still think that he is amuzing! and perfection.
for me I hope the ones that make it are matt and anoop… but I’m afraid that with the judges throwing thme under the bus one of the will be going home before scott or lil.

tho miracles can happen… look at syesha.. noone expected her to make it farther than michael or carly… at least I didn’t (not saying she didn’t deserve it)

Would Anoop/Mat/Kris/Allison fans vote for Adam and Lil/Scott fans vote for Danny?

From what I have seen a lot of Anoop fans love Adam, and rank him as their number 2. Quite a few Kris fans love Adam as well, so I could see Adam picking up a good amount of votes from those two fanbases. I think that some of Allison’s fans would vote for Adam as well. I’m not so sure about Adam’s fans.

I don’t really know who’s fans Danny would pick up.

Scott has been consistently one of the lowest vote getters on DI and now he is supposed to last until top 5? His performances wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t carry him there, he had his best last week and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t rise much above the rest (on DI at least). His talent is way below average.

I think that Scott has a bunch of people voting for him, even though he may not be among the top vote getters. I think that he has a decent sized fanbase and picks up a lot of the casual voters each week. And I think that even though he may not have been ranked s high as the others, that he has only hit the bottom three once.

Last week I think that he was ranked fourth or fifth. Not to mention that Allison andMatt aren’t picking up a lot of fans or receiving a lot of casual votes. And while Anoop has a big fanbase, he’s not really gaining any fans, or really recieving any of the casual voters votes.

Plus IMO TPTB seem to want him gone, so that’s working against him. I think that when all of these things are factored in, it makes Scott’s chances of making the top 5 over, Anoop, Allison and Matt, look greater.

MJ, I would love for your top 5 to be reality. I’m behind Anoop 100%. I’m really hoping he can bounce back this week. Same with Matt and Allison.
What strikes as really weird is how the tables turned for Anoop in one week. He had two really strong weeks and after one not-so-strong week (according to the judges) he is suddenly one of the picks to leave. If he can give a really strong performance this week, I think he can pick up a lot of casual viewers….but that also depends on the judges not being way too harsh.
Anyway, I really hope it doesn’t come down to an Adam/Danny finale. I definitely wouldn’t vote and I probably wouldn’t even watch.

If ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s indeed an Adam/Danny final 2, which of the remaining idolsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fans would you expect Adam or Danny to pick up?

I’d powervote for Danny over Adam in a heartbeat. Adam may have a technically better voice but I find Dannys more voice more pleasant.

I see Adam listed as the #2 choice for a lot of fans.

I think Adam is going to be the one who will pick up a lot of votes each week as other’s favorites get kicked off.

As for Gokey, it seems like I either see him as #1 on people’s lists, or not on their top 5 list at all.

I’m an Anoop/Allison fan but I’m not stupid. It’s the pro (Adam) versus Danny in the final. Either way, I’m not a fan of either one and I probably won’t watch if it is those two in the final.

Yes, Adam has charisma and stage presence, but I don’t see him as a successful recording artist. I think the novelty will wear off after the first album. He’s more of a performer than a singer. He’s a future Broadway star who I wouldn’t mind seeing on stage. Danny? He’s CCM all the way and that’s it.

Who Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to be in the Top 5: Adam, Kris, Allison
, Matt, Anoop

Yep me too! If I’m honest I think I’d be okay switching Danny for Anoop.

The closest weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re gonna come to a dark horse upset in Season 8 will be Kris Allen sneaking into the #3 spot.

Oh! from your mouth to God’s ears, as they say.:) Then, if it’s an Adam, Danny and Kris top three, I’m hoping that voters see the strengths of Kris over Danny and simply can’t deny them. I’d be fine and happy with Adam winning, he’d deserve it, IMO, however, I’d love to be able to buy an album put out by Kris, as long as tptb continue to give the top two contracts.

In my world Scott or Lil would leave next with Danny close behind since I think the others have more talent.

But I agree once again with mj that Anoop, Matt and Allison may all be in trouble.

I’m wondering too if 19alphabet will give a third contract this year. Who could that be? I’d buy something from Allison and Matt. I also wonder if Miley has the power to get something for Allison if she can’t keep her on the show…I’m liking Allison having Miley’s support. It’s time for Miley to do something decent w/ her career. LOL. (10yr. old daughter, huge Miley fan!)

Danica, who is your horse in the race?

sparklesgirl, my horse is lucky #13 Anoop.

What strikes as really weird is how the tables turned for Anoop in one week. He had two really strong weeks and after one not-so-strong week (according to the judges) he is suddenly one of the picks to leave. If he can give a really strong performance this week, I think he can pick up a lot of casual viewersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.but that also depends on the judges not being way too harsh.

He needs a good song this week, and I really hope he’s got one. He just needs to drop the nerves and freaking go for it. He’s got nothing to lose, really, and it could pay off big for him.

What strikes as really weird is how the tables turned for Anoop in one week. He had two really strong weeks and after one not-so-strong week (according to the judges) he is suddenly one of the picks to leave.

I agree, and with the opposite being true with Scott. He was lackluster and finally in the bottom three, then one good performance and he’s back in the ranking for the top 5.

As for Gokey, it seems like I either see him as #1 on peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lists, or not on their top 5 list at all.

I’d agree with that statement! Although I do know like two people who are obsessed with Danny and Adam BOTH. That seems impossible to me, but oh well, their choice!

Previous finals performing order (semi’s shouldn’t count as they weren’t all competing):
Top 13 11 10 9
Adam 11 5 8 8
Danny 3 8 9 3
Lil 1 4 7 7
Scott 2 6 3 5
Kris 6 3 2 9
Matt 12 11 1 6
Allison 7 2 10 4
Anoop 8 9 5 1

This is always interesting. Adam is clearly the golden child. Even when he went 5th, it was close to the pimp spot of hour 1. I guess they know he’s what is keeping many tuned in. They can’t keep this up forever, even if they are technically keeping him out of the pimp spot.

I like Danny and Kris a lot. The others can go away. Adam is a fine theater performer. An actor playing a role as American Idol.

Oh, god. No. Please, no. Usually they try to put a good upbeat performance at the end, or one that will have impact. Scott is a nice guy, but ending the show with two minutes of Yacht Rock doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really make the best closer, ya know?

Lol, at “Yacht Rock”. I definitely don’t think that Scott will give a very interesting performance next week, but I think it’s a strong possibility that he wll close the show and get overpraised by the judges and/or get a very easy criticique, even if he doesn’t sound that good.

Jx223, I agree that Scott will probably get the pimp spot à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  especially since they lauded his performance last week as his best. I really hope they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bury Kris at the beginning of the show, because he was buried in the first half for ALL of the top 13 onward, except for last week. Maybe a mid-show placement would be fair? Allison should get a late show placement, as should Anoop. Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been at the back of the show a few times recently, so she could go at the beginning. And obviously, same with Adam. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to see the performance order be Adam, Lil, Matt, Danny, Kris, Anoop, Allison, Scott. I think thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be fair considering the contestantsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ placements lately.

That’s true, Kris had to perform in the first half a lot so I agree that it would be fairer to put him somewhere in the middle like fourth or fifth. I hope the three chosen ones (Adam, Lil, and Danny) in that order are the first three to go. And that way the judges can get a lot of their overpraising comments of at least two of them out of the way.

I would put Kris and Matt at fourth and fifth, Allison at 6th before Anoop, because she got the pimp spot Motown week and he hasn’t had it since Wildcard Week, plus he went first last week. And then Anoop at 7th. And then even though it’s a very strong chance that his performance won’t be that interesting Scott at pimp spot, since he’s never had it.

“He needs a good song this week, and I really hope heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got one. He just needs to drop the nerves and freaking go for it. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got nothing to lose, really, and it could pay off big for him.

I agree. He has to loosen up. He hasn’t seemed as comfortable as he is in his pre-idol stuff with the exception of the wildcard round. Maybe he’ll get that “nothing to lose” mentality back. He definitely has the voice….he just needs the comfort back.

I think Danny would pick Lil’s fans, which is probably the largest and most important fanbase after Danny’s and Adam’s (maybe even stronger than Adam’s if you ask me)
Honestly, Lil just needs to be a bit smarter and listen what the judges have said for the past few weeks, with the right song choices Lil can make the top 3 easily. She doesn’t have competition for her genre and she’s the kind of contestant many many viewers like and end up throwing a vote.

Yeah flicker. I am not giving up on Matt just yet.
I also think he has it on him. If he has a couple of wow moments this week and next, he could dethrone Danny Gokey.

Adam will win for sure.
But.. I hope to see Matt on that finale instead of Danny.

Come on Matt! You have it on you, get those nerves on check.
Can’t someone coach him on relaxation techniques? Sigh…
There are still 7 weeks of competition, anything can happen.
This is my fantasy wish, please Matt I am pulling for you.

Hoping Matt picks a ballad this week ( still waiting patiently for him to do one) such as “Heaven” by Bryan Adams, and maybe the judges will be on his bandwagon again. I would love to see him upset their final 2 predictions.

I wonder if Scott will get the pimp spot next week? Technically he is due for it, everyone one else has had it so far. If Scott gets the pimp spot, then I think that his chances of going home next week will be even lower than what they already are.

Omg, please no! :wallbash_tb:

My top 5 have been the most consistent every week or have shown artistry.

1. Adam
2. Kris
3. Allison
4. Danny
5. Matt

I think the ones who will be in the top 5 are

1. Adam
2. Kris
3. Danny
4. Lil
5. Scott

Adam’s fanbase has grown and grows every week. Kris’s fanbase has also grown because of his underdog status. Sadly Allison’s has not, even though she has been one of the best on show. I think some of Megan’s fanbase might transfer their votes between Allison, Matt and Kris. Danny’s fanbase has had some of his fans gone over to Kris and Matt, but Danny will stay in the top. If Matt can do a great song next week his fanbase will grow despite the judges. Lil’s fan will stay with her, but I don’t see her fanbase growing, even maybe a few leaving for Danny, Kris or Matt if she doesn’t get more current in weeks to come. Scott will have his same fanbase, but I don’t know if it is bigger than the others who are gaining because some of those on the fence have seen Scott’s other performances where he struggled. Some of Anoop’s fans have given up on him and have moved on to other contestants, more likely Matt or Kris who started off about in the same mid-level range, but have been more consistent and step up thier game every week. If Anoop has another bad week that might knock him out. Consistently good performers can have a bad week and still survive, but one that has not, might not survive when the chips are down. If Adam has a bad week I believe he would still make it through, but if someone like Anoop has another bad week, he might be voted off. Consistently good weeks add up to the Idol watchers.

The thing with lower and mid level singers on the show if they have another bad week in the future they might not be spared, even if they do good next week. Plus if others who have been consistent are voted off before them there might be a big backlash on the boards and in the media even if they don’t deserve it. This causes pressure on some of the fanbase and many who are casual viewers might change their votes because of the backlash or the judges comments.

What strikes as really weird is how the tables turned for Anoop in one week. He had two really strong weeks and after one not-so-strong week (according to the judges) he is suddenly one of the picks to leave. If he can give a really strong performance this week, I think he can pick up a lot of casual viewersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.but that also depends on the judges not being way too harsh.

Unfortunately, I’m not surprised that the judges turned on Anoop so quickly like that. I thought they were going to throw him under the bus Motown week and was surprised when they didn’t. But they decided to wait another week, before they threw him under the bus.

I think that they and the rest of TPTB, don’t have any more use for Anoop, and think that if they gave him more support, he could be a threat to Danny and Lil. Anoop had a lot of buzz earlier on and TPTB used him and yanked him around, to add more drama to the show.

They lead him to believe that he didn’t make the finals, and then put him in the bottom four Michael Jackson week, even though he was nowhere near the bottom four that night. Also, while I think that Anoop hasn’t shown what he is really capable of on the show yet, I think that he hasn’t been as bad the judges have tried to make him out to be.

But they want him gone, because they have other peoplethat they are their chosen ones and who they are overpraisngthat they want to stay around longer than him.

I won’t be surprised if they started throwing Matt and Allison under the bus shown too.

Based solely off of past performances, here is how I see it ranking.

Anoop- 7 or 8. He has peeps??? Seriously, there can’t be that many of them if he hit the seal twice in 4 weeks and he had to get a wildcard to even make the top 13.

Allison- 7 or 8…sniff…sniff. I really like this girl. I’m just sorry more casual voters don’t.

Matt- 5 or 6. I think TPTB and the judges are done with him. Guy can sing and record, but his live performances are not making an impact with the voters in a positive way.

Scott-5 or 6. Boring, non threatening/controversial performances, tepid to positive critics from the judges buys him a couple more weeks

Lil- 3 or 4. If she can get her act together and actually pick an appropriate song for her voice, while not spliting votes she will crack the top 5

Kris 3 or 4 If he can maintain his growth and good performances, along with picking up Anoop’s, Matt’s and Scott’s votes, he too will crack the top 4 and hopefully the top 3

Danny- 1 or 2…PUKE. He is falling into what Archie was for me last year…same old same old. Same performance every week. He lacks charisma that I think a winner needs to have and he turns more people off than he actually will gain week to week as others get the boot.

Adam – 1 or 2. The judges love him and if he can throw in a couple of Tracks of my Tears performances while balancing them with more typical AdamFests ( which I love) he will go all the way to the finale. I think he will pick up the most fan base votes as others are booted.

I haven’t voted this season and swore I wouldn’t until Sarah told me I had to if Adam was ever in a position to need the votes. :)

I think some of Meganà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fanbase might transfer their votes between Allison, Matt and Kris.

I hope you are right! I do know a Megan fan who also loves Matt and Allison, and even last week, after her subpar performance, he swung all of his votes to those two.

I found the show to be contradicting itself a lot more of the time. I mean, there alot times Simon always emphasizing on the purpose of the show, which is to find a successful recording artist, yes this show, even the judges, give consistently major praise and credits every single week to someone like Danny, who I genuinely don’t see to fit to any genre that is normally doing great on chart these days. where does Danny fit? I don’t get it. He wouldn’t had survived this long if he didn’t get a major pimping in the audition rounds. I mean give me a break, his live performances consistently pitchy in parts, and his studio recordings havnt been impressive yet…

The same thing I think happen to Scott and Lil.. People like Anoop, Adam, Allison, Kris, and Matt, even Megan, I thought to be fit with the music industry these days. I mean look at Anoop, he really has R&B chops that he’s proven most of the time with many performances he’s had, he’s someone like Ne-Yo, or Usher, which rocks the chart, Adam, who Paula had pointed out to be someone who reminds her of Steven Tyler or Mick Jagger, who rock the chart, Allison, being a17 years old girl with that powerful voice and bubbly personality, just like Miley Cyrus, who rocks the chart, Kris, who I found similiar to guys like Jon McLaughlin or Jason Mraz, who rock the chart, and Matt, with that soulful voice and play piano who reminds me alot of Ryan Tedder, Gavin DeGraw or Isaac the Fray, who also once again, rock the chart.

These five names who I think should crack into the top 5, because they are the ones who are distinct and have the chops to be a successful recording singer. Unfortunately in this particular competition, the studio recordings of the contestants dont come into play with the judges, they only judging live performances, because these 5 always rock the studio recordings every single week. This year Idol would be a real karaoke competition if either Danny Scott or Lil make it to finale. oh well.

Anoop- 7 or 8. He has peeps??? Seriously, there canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be that many of them if he hit the seal twice in 4 weeks and he had to get a wildcard to even make the top 13.

I don’t think Anoop was ever in the bottom 3 except the top 9 week. They made it look like he was top 13 week, but they never said “bottom 4″ or whatever. They just narrowed it down between him (because he had the worst performance, so it would be suspenseful) and Jorge.

I hope you are right! I do know a Megan fan who also loves Matt and Allison, and even last week, after her subpar performance, he swung all of his votes to those two.

Megan’s fans seem like they would like Allison’s, Matt’s and Kris’s style of singing and music more than the R/B singers. They like her quirky folk styles, which is really cute.
Those fans tend to lean more towards Rock/Pop/Folk and Allison, Matt and Kris would seem to fit those categories more than the R/B singers.

I agree. He has to loosen up. He hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seemed as comfortable as he is in his pre-idol stuff with the exception of the wildcard round. Maybe heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“nothing to loseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  mentality back. He definitely has the voiceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.he just needs the comfort back

I wish that he would go to back to singing like he did and acting the way he was when we first saw him in Kansas City, and then in Hollywood, when he sang “Thank You” “If It’s Magic”. He was so relaxed, happy and confident during those times. And he sounded really good and even belted some, in “If It’s Magic” which we haven’t seen him really do on the show.

But since he’s hit the Idol Stage, he’s lost a lot of that spark that we saw of him early on. And even some of the natual swagger that he had and not the forced swagger he has tried to create. It’s like he’s either trying too hard like in his “Beat It”, “Caught Up” performances, or he’s holding back like in his ”
Ooh, Ooh, Baby”.

When he was singing “Thank You and “If It’s Magic” he wasn’t doing either one of those things, and he sounded just right. And he looked a lot more happier and comfortable. I think that he’s trying so hard to please the judges, and it’s not working because they are throwing him under the bus.

Plus he’s not a very good song chooser and that’s hurting him too. I wonder if the contestants really do have advisors and if they do, I wish that Anoop’s would really help him.

he could be a threat to Danny and Lil

Exactly! That’s exactly why they arent nice to him….. Not giving him the respect that he deserves.

edit: accept that others may not like your favorite. don’t be defensive.

Although, if I watch next year, then Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have to see his (Danny) smugass face on the backdrops/posters/etc.

No problem. They’ll scrunch him down in the corner with Taylor. OTOH, poor Taylor’s pic get smaller and smaller every year, eventually he’ll just disappear off the backdrop altogether.

Oh, in a perfect world the Top 5 would definitely be Adam, Kris, Allison, Matt and Anoop. I’m still hoping for an Adam/Allison finale, but I’ll take Adam with any combination of those 4 – just no Danny, Scott or Lil! Miracles can happen, right?

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Anoop was ever in the bottom 3 except the top 9 week. They made it look like he was top 13 week, but they never said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“bottom 4à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ³ or whatever. They just narrowed it down between him (because he had the worst performance, so it would be suspenseful) and Jorge.

I don’t believe that he was legitimately in the bottom four top 13 week either. Dial Idol had him ranked at 5th place that week, and I heard that after all the votes came in he was actually ranked third that week behind Danny and Adam. And it’s true that Ryan never said that he was bottom four, he just told him to stand on the with Jorge. I doubt that Anoop was bottom four that week, they used him for suspense.

Jx223 – He gets beaten up by the judges every week. They tell him to sing a ballad, then call him boring….tell him to go upbeat….call him a wannabe. He cant win! I think his spirit has been broken. I want the old Anoop back as well. I miss that smile! :glurps_tb:

Danny has been more consistent than Anoop every week and those good solid performances add up to the causul Idol watchers.

I don’t know if Anoop could surprass Danny at this stage, because Danny has been good almost every week. Danny and Adam have been battling in the top spot on Dial Idol every week. Even though Dial Idol hasn’t always been correct every week they have predicited the bottom person so far. So they are probably getting the top 2 right every week. Unless Danny has a complete melt down on stage I don’t think Anoop will pass up Danny. If Danny did I think his fans would not go to Anoop, but probably to Matt or Kris.

Nothing surprises me anymore on this show – absolutely nothing. I pray to God Adam wins this as I think he’s earned the title, but every! single! season! my favorite has been runner up so rest assured he wont. For all we know, Scott could run away with this. :wallbash_tb:

Ideally, my top 5 would be, in order:

5) Lil
4) Alison
3) Danny
2) Kris
1) Adam FTW

I think Matt or Anoop will be leaving next week, followed by Scott shortly thereafter.

To echo what many have said already, I too miss the old Anoop and the old Matt. They seem as though the life has been sucked out of them, like they have no confidence anymore… much like Jason did at the end of his run on the show. I hope that doesn’t mean the end for those two. :(

I think Matt or Anoop will be leaving next week, followed by Scott shortly thereafter.

I think you just might be right there…lol

I even believe Scotty might have a bigger fanbase than some people might suspect.

I think Matt’s problem is that no matter how creative and talented he has been on the show people who like Matt R/B style also like Anoop.

Right now I think they are spliting votes with the R/B loving crowd. One of them sadly has to go for the other to move up. If people sing in the same genre, they are competing for the same type of votes and listening audience.

Scott has been consistently one of the lowest vote getters on DI and now he is supposed to last until top 5? His performances wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t carry him there, he had his best last week and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t rise much above the rest (on DI at least). His talent is way below average.

You know I was having some second thoughts about Scott myself, even before I read this post. Just how powerful is VFTW? Megan went home with them behind her. I have no clue who their votes went for last yr. after KLC was voted off and I do wonder about the he has been in bottom of DI several times…

Also, I don’t really see the judges pimping him, it may have seemed that way last week, but he really did do a great job. IDK, Scott is a mystery to me.:)

I am still pulling for Matt Giraud.

p.s. He IS gaining new fans everyday. I don’t know where you get your facts.

Sadly, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going ANYWHERE.

I feel your pain. I really do.

Like MJ my top 5 would be Adam, Allison, Kris, Matt and Anoop and in that order. I think the actual top 5 will feature Danny and Lil though. Unfortunately I don’t see any way to avoid having Danny in the top 5 and as depressing as it is he seems to be in the best position to win it all. The infamous depimping bus has met it’s match. Even if they wanted to get rid of him (and I don’t think they do) it wouldn’t leave a mark on him. Lil will probably make it too since Simon seems enthralled with her and strangely indifferent to Allison. I’m hoping Adam and Kris will be there and have no idea who the fifth will be.

Jx223 – He gets beaten up by the judges every week. They tell him to sing a ballad, then call him boringà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.tell him to go upbeatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.call him a wannabe. He cant win! I think his spirit has been broken. I want the old Anoop back as well. I miss that smile!

That’s probably the reason why I’ll stop watching the show for this season. The pimping of undeserving contestants (I’m looking at you Danny and Lil) is rather sad.

Adam will win because none of the other contestants have either the presence nor range that he has. It’s like watching Giselle Bundchen compete on America’s Next Top Model.

I really hope they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bury Kris at the beginning of the show, because he was buried in the first half for ALL of the top 13 onward, except for last week. Maybe a mid-show placement would be fair?

Good point!

There are still 7 weeks of competition, anything can happen.

Exactly. The race isn’t even halfway over yet!

Matt might be gaining voters, but that would be a problem for the middle and lower level R/B singers. Matt might even be taking away votes for Lil.

The R/B defined singers, Anoop and Matt, sing in the similar R/B genre. That is why I appreciate Matt stepping out of his comfort zone and doing Soft Rock like the Fray. That shows artistry and that Matt is willing to take risks.

But I think Matt and Anoop might be competing for the same R/B viewers of the show. That is why you get shocking shows like when Jennifer Hudson, Fantasia and LaToya London were all in the bottom 3 until one left.

I think if one is gone the other will definitely shoot up to the top, but sadly one will have to go first and that is hard one to figure out.

to be honest I think matt is waaaay underrated…

adam is a big singer and a good one… but is not what I want to hear on my radio… the only ones that voice wise I would sit down and listen are matt, anoop and kris.. other than that I dont think I like anyone else. THIS DOESN’T MEAN THAT THE REST ARE BAD SINGERS!

just not top 40 IMO…

He cant win! I think his spirit has been broken. I want the old Anoop back as well. I miss that smile

I miss the old Anoop too. I agree that he can’t win with the judges, and I think that his spirit has been broken as well. I don’t think that he should sing a fast uptempo song next week and dance around a lot because they are going to beat him up if he does.

They will do this, even if his vocals were decent like they were on “Caught Up”. If he goes out next week, I would rather see him go out singing well on a ballad, even if he gets boring comments on it, than see him do another upbeat song get beat up for it and go out that way.

I think that he should just go out and sing his heart out on a ballad, because he seems to do better on those. He can’t ballad his way to the finale like Jordin and Archie were able to do.,

But if he sings his heart out next week, does some belting and sings really well, he might be able to buy himself another week. Maybe even two depending if he sticks around and how well, he does the week after next, if he’s still around.

I wll take Anoop for as long as I can get him even if that’s only one or two more weeks. So I think that he should sing a ballad next week, and sing it well, without holding back. He needs to belt like he did on “If It’s Magic”.

I thought when they got down to the top 10 that the singing order has more to do with how good they were in rehearsal and they try to save the best for last. That played out last week pretty much cause Adam and Kris were the best and sang last on Tuesday.

Who Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to be in the Top 5: Adam, Kris, Allison, Matt, Anoop
Who will be in the Top 5: Adam, Danny, Lil, Kris, Scott

Me too. I am just sick and tired of the double standards. Lil has been the consistently poor preformer and yet no one slams her, instead they show her crying kid. Scott gets lauded all over the place because he has “his best week yet,” which he did, but dang the standards were pretty low. Danny is way, way, way overrated.

Sigh, but I know what way the wind is blowing. The bus is on its way to Anoop and Matt, just not sure which will get hit first. Allison will be the next target after those two are out of the way.

In case the TPTB wants to know which way my vote will swing after that happens; it will be to Kris.

Am I the only one who feels that Matt Giraud is going to be the most successful post-idol?

I don’t know why, but I just see major star potential in him.

I mean, Matt is a self-taught musician, making a living as a dueling-pianist prior to Idol. He records beautifully. He knows how to work a crowd. He is funny and goofy. He is humble. He is sexy. He can arrange music. He can beatbox. He writes his own music and lyrics. He is passionate. He appreciates his fans (he wore his Giraud Squad bracelet this past week! hehe). What’s not to love?

Come on Matt! Show these people what you’ve got! :)

I wll take Anoop for as long as I can get him even if thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s only one or two more weeks. So I think that he should sing a ballad next week, and sing it well, without holding back. He needs to belt like he did on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“If Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Magicà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Same here. Oh man, what wouldn’t I give to be able to hear a full-length version of him singing “If It’s Magic.” I’m looking forward to whatever he does this week. In the meantime, I’ll entertain myself with his clef videos and albums.

p.s. He IS gaining new fans everyday. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know where you get your facts.

Even when the judges were pimping him, he couldn’t stay out of the bottom 3. I blame that on not connecting and picking up new fans.

Kris, Anoop and Matt are splitting votes. I believe Kris is winning that race.

Also, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really see the judges pimping him, it may have seemed that way last week, but he really did do a great job. IDK, Scott is a mystery to me.:)

They may not be pimping him but they are not slamming him (or Lil) the way they do Anoop and/or Matt. For reasons I do not quite get, they really do seem to want those boys gone. Both of them get taken to task at a much higher level than anyone else on the show, and I am not even a Matt fan.

He canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ballad his way to the finale like Jordin and Archie were able to do.,

Hmmmm, seems to be working just fine for Scott and Kris, lol. The risks Anoop have taken haven’t paid off and I think he’ll be better off staying in the ballad/mid-tempo space if he wants any chance of making the top 5.

Oh and get rid of the backing singers and bandzilla for awhile.

On the order next Tuesday, I don’t think Scott will get the pimp spot, there would be too many people switching channels.
Moreover they want to end the show on a good note and I don’t think that Scott would have a good enough performance.

I would put my money on Gokey being on the pimp spot, they have set up for him since he is the only contender to go in the first half last week and didn’t get it since the first week of the semifinals.

Anoop- 7 or 8. He has peeps??? Seriously, there canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be that many of them if he hit the seal twice in 4 weeks and he had to get a wildcard to even make the top 13.

According to my (extremely) unscientific research, he sort of does.

I know lots of college kids who dig him, and are watching just to see him. And they *do* vote for him, but they haven’t got the time in the middle of the week to power vote for 2 hours, what with papers to write, course reading to do, exams to study for, labs to prepare for, etc. So they throw him text votes for 20 or so minutes, and then get back to work.

I haven’t found anyone in this demographic that likes Adam (my sister’s friend said he looks like the theater geek who’s costumed for his ultimate role of the next American Idol). They openly mock Danny. They think Lil comes off very grandmotherly. They tend to like Matt and Alison. They think Scott’s a nice guy but sucks at singing. They think Kris is cute and can play the guitar and sing, but if they want to watch that, they can go down to the quad and find half a dozen guys who look and sound just like him.

So I think he’s got peeps, just not Power Voters.

YMMV and all that.

And BTW, I don’t think he was in the bottom 4 during Top 13 week either. He was high and in the green on DI, and Ryan never said anything about lowest votes or bottom four or anything of the sort. I think it was all for the sake of drama.

I think Anoop should just give the judges the bird and perform for HIMSELF. I would just love that! **

Kris is consistenly boring – same with Scott, Lil and Danny – but the judges never say anything bad about them. I just dont understand that at all.

Also, the judges made America think that Anoop wasnt a good singer, now they are making America think he has a bad attitude. WTF

In the meantime, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll entertain myself with his clef videos and albums.

I made my dad a fan with IMLTY – the old well performance!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m all for Kris winning the entire thing.

This. Ya know, the problem with being the front-runner is that you start to feel the weight of expectation. The front-runner has to be consistantly fresh and excellent or the hammer comes down.
The beauty of being the dark horse is that your consistant excellence is usually rewarded. The expectation is lower and so is the pressure.
Someone who is consistant and talented with a flair for making things fresh can sneak up on the front-runners and steal the show. It happened last year.

Adam and Allison, I dont care about any others. I hope Allison can survive longer. But I have a feeling she will have to be no less than great or she is going home. Lil can have mediocre performances and still not touch the bottom. Sigh.

Kris, Anoop and Matt are splitting votes. I believe Kris is winning that race.

This I buy.

I am constantly amazed that people vote like they do. For example…Do people really vote in an R&B block? I mean are people really voting for Lil because she is the sole african american left or that she is the sole R&B female left? Really? She is not that good people…she isnt even close to Syesha last year. I guess I am in the minority who votes for the best voice each year. Last year I thought that best voice was Archie, this year that best voice is Adam…
It’s really not that hard people…

I’m still sticking to my dark horse theory!

Oh and get rid of the backing singers and bandzilla for awhile.

Anoop needs to sing some acapella! *swoon*

Also, I’m more curious as to who gets the pimp spot next week and who goes first. What’s interesting about the performance positioning this year is twice Anoop has been moved from rehearsal to actual show in terms of placement. On top 11 night, he was supposed to be last and Matt took it. And this week he was moved from 5th to 1st. This week made sense – start off with something exciting but country week, I’m not so sure. The big stories about country week were Anoop’s comeback from the awful Beat It and Adam’s weird performance. Changes from rehearsal aren’t unprecedented but it seems to be happening mostly to Anoop.

I can almost see Kris sneaking into the final. He’ll need to keep progressing, maybe toss in a showstopper and avoid any trainwrecks, but he does have one other thing going for him. One might call it underdog status, but I think it’s more that he hasn’t been overpimped, or pimped at all, and doesn’t appear to be set up for a backlash by alienated fans of booted contestants. If he’s drawing from a similar pool as Matt, Scott and Anoop and they leave, will their fans be more apt to support TCOs whose overpimping may have contributed to the demise of their favorite? Or will they go with little hardworking underappreciated Kris? I know what I’d do.

Kris, Anoop and Matt are splitting votes. I believe Kris is winning that race.

Agreed. That’s one of the reasons I’m ready for Matt to go.
I read on one of the Kris Allen boards that Danny gets the most fan mail. This, I do not understand. YMMV.
In Holly’s perfect world, we’re racing to a Kris v Adam finale with Allison at third.

I think Anoop could have the pimp spot this week IF he’s on form. I definitely think TPTB would give it to him over Scott.

mj, you and i share the ideal top 5.

I am constantly amazed that people vote like they do. For exampleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Do people really vote in an R&B block? I mean are people really voting for Lil because she is the sole african american left or that she is the sole R&B female left? Really?

I think the people who are voting for Lil not only like her style of singing but the way she sings.

Lil’s singing hasn’t been terrible. She’s been unremarkable. She’s been no worse than Matt or Anoop on their off nights.

In an ideal Idol world the final 3 would be:

Adam
Kris
Allison

Agreed. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one of the reasons Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m ready for Matt to go.

Funny. Thats one of the many reasons I’m ready for Kris to go. That…and Matt has a much better voice.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m still sticking to my dark horse theory!

Tell me about your theory!

Also, do yall know the patterns for this week and who goes home every season? It’s interesting

Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s singing hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been terrible. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been unremarkable. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been no worse than Matt or Anoop on their off nights.

But she has been off three weeks now and, instead of verbally beating her up, they show her crying kid. My big problem with this year is the blatant disparity of how contestants are critiqued.

In an ideal Idol world the final 3 would be:
Adam
Kris
Allison

Hey, soccerboi, that’s my world, too. Welcome to HollyWouldlikeittobeso.

Funny. Thats one of the many reasons Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m ready for Kris to go.

So does that mean that neither of us sees Anoop or Scott as a threat?

“I think the people who are voting for Lil not only like her style of singing but the way she sings.

Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s singing hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been terrible. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been unremarkable. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been no worse than Matt or Anoop on their off nights.”–MJ

I agree with you. Lil has not been worse than either but she hasn’t been better either really. She’s been ok. She just hasn’t had a great week yet. I just don’t think her voice is that strong…she is not even close to Syesha in voice…I guess that was what I was getting at…I don’t hate her…just don’t love her…
I wonder tho…Do you think she can make it to the top 3 like Syesha did?

I think Anoop should just give the judges the bird and perform for HIMSELF. I would just love that! **
…

I think they all should do just as you suggest, but they have to have the finesse to do it without appearing to do it. And, most can’t pull off the latter, even if they manage the former. :-)

Sadly, I fear Anoop can do neither. We’ve heard from the peeps that he’s very competitive and extremely intense. He has the qualities that will make him a success in most anything he does, EXCEPT the Idol game. He’s done what Carly did last season, just in a different way. He’s let them get in his head and it’s taking its toll. Like her, I expect his let-it-all-go performance to be his last, just for different reasons.

Also, the judges made America think that Anoop wasnt a good singer, now they are making America think he has a bad attitude. WTF

All due respect, mileage and all that. But, we sort of have to lay some responsibility for what “America think(s)” of Anoop at the feet of the man himself. For me, he’s not performed very well, and certainly not consistently. Last week, his comments were his and his alone. The judges didn’t bait him, nor did they engage him. He did that himself, and yes, it came across poorly. Personally, I don’t blame him and get where it was coming from, but still.

Even he said after watching back he saw the flaws in his performance, or at least had a more realistic view. Here’s to hoping that hindsight taught him what he needed to do differently and that he has the ability this week to fully execute (something he’s yet to do, in my view.)

ETA:

In an ideal Idol world the final 3 would be:
Adam
Kris
Allison

Hey, soccerboi, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my world, too. Welcome to HollyWouldlikeittobeso.

Hey, I live there too!! I think it’s more heavily populated than we may tend to believe. :-)

I’m thinking Chris (and not Danny or Adam) has the best chance of picking up votes as others are voted off. This could put him in top 2 and a great performance could win it for him. But one bad performance will kill him.

I don’t think any of this year’s contestants are future stars, but several will probably be able to make a living as musical artists. Adam – Broadway, Danny – Christian, Chris – ??, Alison – Rock.

I don’t think we can get rid of Lil that easily – the judges would save her sorry self. I wonder if they would use the save on Matt or Anoop ?? Kara was head over heels for Matt in the beginning – would she switch on him that quickly ??

Like her, I expect his let-it-all-go performance to be his last, just for different reasons.

I think you’re right, but hope you’re wrong

I wonder thoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Do you think she can make it to the top 3 like Syesha did?

I think it’s possible.

But, I think it’s more likely we’ll end up with an all-male Top 3. Adam-Danny-Kris.

Same here. Oh man, what wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t I give to be able to hear a full-length version of him singing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“If Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Magic.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m looking forward to whatever he does this week. In the meantime, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll entertain myself with his clef videos and albums.

I would love to hear a full version of him singing “If It’s Magic”. I think that would sound good. :smile2_tb:

. Both of them get taken to task at a much higher level than anyone else on the show, and I am not even a Matt fan.

I agree that both Matt and Anoop (especially Anoop) are held to higher standards than most of the other contestants on the show. They are judged more critically and harshly, really harshly in Anoop’s case, than most of the other contestants are. TPTB want both of them gone, starting with Anoop leaving first.

Hmmmm, seems to be working just fine for Scott, lol. The risks Anoop have taken havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t paid off and I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be better off staying in the ballad/mid-tempo space if he wants any chance of making the top 5.

Oh and get rid of the backing singers and bandzilla for awhile.

I think that it’s working out for Scott because the judges are overpraising him and not properly calling him out for his mediocre perfomances, and because Scott is able to get a lot of sympathy votes.

The judges are very critical of Anoop, for the most part they don’t give him enough credit when he does well, and they have turned against him. Plus he’s not getting a lot of sympathy votes regardless of what type of performances he gives. So I don’t think that Anoop deciding to only do ballads is going to carry him to the finale.

But I think that he has a better chance of sticking around a little longer, even if it’s only for one more week, if he sings a ballad and sings it well.

I think that with all of the pimping and overpraising, and under critcizing of the other contestants like Danny, Lil and Scott, not to mention Kris gaining momentum, and Adam doing really well is going to make it incredibly hard for Anoop to ballad his way to the finale.

But he might be able to outlast Allison and/or Matt if he sings a ballad really well next week. And maybe if he does the same thing the following week if he’s still around.

Last week, his comments were his and his alone. The judges didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bait him, nor did they engage him. He did that himself, and yes, it came across poorly. Personally, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t blame him and get where it was coming from, but still.

Even he said after watching back he saw the flaws in his performance, or at least had a more realistic view. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s to hoping that hindsight taught him what he ndeded to do differently and that he has the ability this week to fully execute (something heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s yet to do, in my view.)

Ryan baited him!! Also, he just talked about watching it back and all that to do damage control.

MJ, thanks so much for providing this wonderful blog for idol addicts such as me. AI has been my guilty pleasure since Season 4, but I never realized this entire internet Idol world existed until I went apeshit for David Cook last year. I signed up for this website because I wanted to follow a season of idol as a dispassionate observer and snarker, but have only been lurking. As a bit of background, I like some of almost all genres of music and have purchased post-idol music from Carrie, Daughtry, Melinda Doolittle and Cook. I feel I have had a good track record at picking out which idols are going to be successful post idol and are commercially viable (Melinda is the best vocalist ever discovered by this show but was born in the wrong era).

All this brings me to season 8 which has been very disappointing, but at least has kept me from getting overly invested in a performer (hello Cook and Melinda). I really feel that this is the least entertaining, least talented and least commercially viable group since I’ve been watching; and, the producer manipulations more blatant than ever. My view of the remaining contestants.

Gokey: a less talented and less likeable Archuleta. Where is he getting his fanbase?

Adam: talented and charismatic, look forward to his performances but can’t take him seriously as a recording artist. His voice doesn’t hit my sweet spot. He is musical theater or cabaret material.

Anoop: not good enough.

Matt: potential, but doesn’t know how to play the idol game.

Lil: least interesting female in the top 13, and really not very good

Scott: ugh!

Allison: My pick. She is young and inexperienced but she is a naturally gifted singer and a good performer and has an endearing, quirky personality. She is commercial! Why are the producers/judges screwing her? I don’t understand why she hasn’t connected to the audiences more–but I think judges sabotage has definitely played a role.

Kris: He is growing on me. To me, his idol run is reminding me alot of Cook. He is building on solid performances, improving weekly and has shown himself to be a true musician. He has a very solid voice and is very cute and likeable, but I don’t think he has quite the vocal range that so impresses the idol fans, or the charisma to pull off a true show stopper. Prove me wrong Kris.

God, I had a lot stored up from lurking so long. I really hope for a Allison, Kris finale, but wouldn’t be mad about Adam getting in there. If none of these 3 make it, I will swear off idol just like I did when Melinda got voted off. (You see how well that worked). Thanks again MJ. I really love your take on Idol related topics and music in general, even if I don’t always agree.

Oh, I just can’t believe they want Danny in the final. Taylor Hicks II with no future as a recording artist who sells millions. They will start depimping him again this week. They just didn’t want to do it after his grandad’s death and fire up the fan base. Lil pimping may be to keep her voter segment watching. Anoop was just too bad to say anything but what they did but if he brings it this week I think they will acknowledge that. Their approach to Matt and Allison confuse me. Can’t figure out the game plan with these two–two of the best.

Allison is such the odd ball in the above picture. Everyone is kinda looking sad, but Allison has this big grin on her face. lol

I too miss the old Anoop and the old Matt. They seem as though the life has been sucked out of them, like they have no confidence anymoreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ much like Jason did….

i think jason castro himself gave up and lost the drive for the competetion..the last week he was in was rock and roll week and he said that he chose what was familiar to him(the bob marley songs)he just picked the songs which seems like “ok no choice im gonna sing dis songs and let dis day pass…”

i miss the old anoop and matt too..and i think they are somewhat comparable with brookes fate in idol..they are early favorites with obvious talents and fanbase but struggle in the middle of the competetion after week by week poor comments from the judges…the three(matt,anoop,brooke)are eaten up by their nerves most of their performances but their studio versions tells what should they have done in live….

i hope lil,danny and scott never get in top 5 but danny not being on the top 5 is the best thing to happen in idol…his studio version of what hurts the most is way way different on the original in a very bad boring way…boyce avenue’s acoustic version is a lot better than his…and with that rude impersonation of matt “hey guys do u remember his coldplay performace blah blah blah…”does he really need to unclosed that topic thinking that its matts worst performance?he surely is a jerk…

I wonder thoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Do you think she can make it to the top 3 like Syesha did?

I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s possible.

But, I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s more likely weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll end up with an all-male Top 3. Adam-Danny-Kris.

I can definitely see Adam and Kris…please not Danny….
Danny reminds me of Taylor in his year. I hated Taylor all along…never got his appeal. And when he won I told everyone he would be the most unsuccessful Idol ever…I was right. I cant help but think my nightmare is happening again with Danny…if there is a God NO!

Allison is such the odd ball in the above picture. Everyone is kinda looking sad, but Allison has this big grin on her face. lol

Adam’s probaly telling her something funny – it looks like they just got done hugging :D

Adam – Broadway, Danny – Christian, Chris – ??, Alison – Rock.

Adam – would be huge in the UK. He could do funked up dance pop like Mika or Lady GaGa.
Danny – I’m seeing country singer. He’s got the pathos and the christian background.
Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.
Allison – pop rock style in the vein of Paramore, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry.

But she has been off three weeks now and, instead of verbally beating her up, they show her crying kid. My big problem with this year is the blatant disparity of how contestants are critiqued.

I agree, that they don’t really criticize her that harshly. I feel like they try to make her out to be better than what she is, while trying to make Anoop seem worse than what he is.

IMHO, the only person that has been more uninteresting than Lil, is Scott. I detest the way that the judges are IMO, unfairly critiquing a lot of the contestants this year, except for Adam, and Kris, and Allison for the most part.

Ryan baited him!! Also, he just talked about watching it back and all that to do damage control.

Did I miss something, when did Ryan become a judge? ;-P

Seriously though, for Anoop’s sake, I sincerely hope you’re wrong that he was only paying lip service for the hope of damage control. Because, he needs to understand the criticism and problems with how his performances play to the TV audience in order to bring it next week (and hopefully, the weeks to come.) I truly believe there’s still hope, and I hope the best for him (unless and until he’s in the finals versus Adam, and then, not so much. ;-))

Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.

But, he doesnt have the personality or the voice.

Hey, I live there too!! I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s more heavily populated than we may tend to believe. :-)

And from your user name, I can see you are also a Cookie lovah. We’ve been on the same planet for a couple of seasons now:)
Although, MJ could be right about that all dude top 3. We’ve never had one of those.

My big problem with this year is the blatant disparity of how contestants are critiqued.

I know! What happened to all that ‘if you can sing, you can sing anything’ from last season?

I agree, that they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really criticize her that harshly. I feel like they try to make her out to be better than what she is, while trying to make Anoop seem worse than what he is.

MTE

I guess we’ll all keep believing whatever we want to believe about where contestants stand, since there are really no hard facts to base anything on! :cool2_tb:

Danny has a huge fanbase, so don’t look for him to be leaving any time soon.

I really believe Matt has a chance to do really well in the competition still. He puts so much passion into his performances and he HAS been picking up new fans. I know of some. I think he just needs to work on his nerves a bit, but you can so tell that he puts all his passion into his music. You can tell he wants this. You can tell he loves music.

Its the judges who say that Matt should not do anything in rock, but I know of fans who actually loved Matt’s performance of “You Found Me” [myself included.] He did amazing during country week, and Top 13 and Wildcard. Oh, and Top 10. This is my opinion, of course, but I just felt I had to state it.

Yes, I’m supporting Matt this season. can ya tell? :)

To be honest… Matt has only had an off night during the finals while Lil has had all of them since Top 12. So who deserves to go first? You tell me.

I still think Matt will prevail.. I am positive. He is commercial, he can sing, incredible voice.

He just needs some nerve coaching. If he can control that he will go to the top, not win but Top 4 for sure.

All of Matt’s performances since Wild Card have been great: Who’s Loving You, HUman Nature, So Small, Let’s Get It On. I’ve loved them all.

Maybe The Fray performance was a bit off, but he proved in his studio recording that he can definitely sing that type of music also.
So we will see. I still have hopes for him in this competition. JMHO.

Just one week ago, I thought Megan was invincible. With all the bad performances, she still managed to escape the bottom 3. Now, she’s gone.

Pimp spot I do think is going to one of TCO because surprisingly so far they have been quite fair with the whole pimp spot baton.

But they are not going to pass it to Scott (the only one left). Usually from Top 12 to Top 7, they would at least feature one of their chosen ones for them to gain some extra momentum. They were clearly not going for Taylor on Season 5, but he won anyway, so it’s not over yet. The most obvious season being Season 2, where they kept alternating between Clay and Ruben.

Still, it’s about time they drop one of TCO so that the other 2 stands a stronger position. It’s just… which one?

Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.

But, he doesnt have the personality or the voice.

Really? Kris is adorable compared to Anoop as far as personality goes…and Kris’ voice is not kareokee like Anoops is. Kris is at least trying to be a viable artist…Anoop does really sound like a guy in a frat house trying to be something he isnt. I chocked on my cocktail when Anoop said he wanted to be a R&B artist…lol

Adam – would be huge in the UK. He could do funked up dance pop like Mika or Lady GaGa.
Danny – Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m seeing country singer. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got the pathos and the christian background.
Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.
Allison – pop rock style in the vein of Paramore, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry.

Ha! I have some of each “category” on my PC and iPod! That’s why I chuckle a little (ok, alot) when peeps (here and everywhere) try to stereotype viewers’ musical tastes based on, well, you name it — age, gender, who they’re voting for now, who they liked then, etc. Heck, I even enjoy hearing that Archies and Cookies are fans of the same contestant this year, after all the angst and “he’s not my cuppa” etc last year.

Interesting stuff, musical tastes. Mine can be as much mood as genre driven, but one thing holds pretty steady. They have to be able to sing really well and entertain/impress me somehow. What can I say, I’m easy. LOL

P.S. I do enjoy our planet, the climate is so HOT! ;-)

Maybe I’m just optimistic, but I still hope the judges start giving Alison the praise she deserves and TPTB start pimping her too.
I love her on stage, but she also seems to be kinda funny and interesting off stage. She has that quirky thing going on for her. I can really see this girl working well out there with the right material and I hope the show does not pass on that. Could they be that dumb?

All of Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances since Wild Card have been great: Whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Loving You, HUman Nature, So Small, Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Get It On. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve loved them all.

I really liked Matt’s “Human Nature” and I thought his performance of that song was the best performance on Michael Jackson night. Even though I like Adam more, I thought that Matt’s performance that night was better than Adam’s “Black or White” which was praised more by the judges.

edit: if you don’t cut it out, I’ll put you in moderation

Still, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about time they drop one of TCO so that the other 2 stands a stronger position. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s justà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ which one?

From the very beginning TCOs have been Adam, Danny and Lil. I don’t think they need to drop one as they aren’t splitting any votes, but instead have distinct and separate fan bases who likely wouldn’t vote for one of the others.

My choices for the final 5 would be

Adam
Allison
Kris
Anoop
Lil

Who will be the final 5

Adam
Danny
Kris
Scott
Matt

I don’t think neither of the female contestants are connecting. I think that even if a Jennifer Hudson type would ever emerge on the show again because the idol viewers have turned a deaf ear to them. Melinda was too nice, Syesha to shrill and aloof, and Lil never stood a chance even right after auditions she was already labeled boring. That she is one of the only ones who is taking the genres seriously and trying to listen to the judges is overlooked. She has not been horrible one time, yet she won’t get the benefit of the doubt because frankly she is seen as been there done that. Of course she has her peeps and it will take her past Anoop, and possibly Matt, and Allison, but it won’t be enough for a top 5. You must remember that she is possibly splitting votes with the soul boys too.

Allison’s plight is much more of a conundrum to me. I don’t get why even when she is given really good remarks she still is in the bottom three. It’s something, I just don’t know what it is that makes the viewers not respond. She is the best female singer, possibly the best singer left after Adam. I just don’t get it.

Kris will make the top three, but imho only to be the pasty to whomever is TCO at that point. Adam has the showmanship and Danny seems to have the fanbase that will vote for him no matter what. That doesn’t bode well for him, like Archie, consistency is good, but can he pull a rabbit out of his hat. Arch did it on finale night, but as we know, it wasn’t enough. That ship had sailed. That is Kris’ Achilles heel. Consistency will keep you in, but not necessarily take you to the finish line.

Scott, has charisma to spare. I know that his blindness has kept him in, but it’s been his personality that has totally kept him interesting. From the moving the piano quip to the self effacing pink pants joke, he’s been the comic relief, and not in the mocking Megan way. He’s won some over just for that. That and a few solid although 70′s AC performances very well may propel him to the top 5.

Anoop is experiencing something like Carly did last week. Do I please Simon (or the judges) or do I please my voters? Since he possibly doesn’t know what his voters want, he may not know wtf to do. I feel for him because I think he has been so much better than his critiques show.

Matt I just never got, but it seems he has captured the imagination of many, but mostly because of his previous work and his current recordings. Personally I think he’s the weakest link of the remaining contestants as he has never had a really good performance since the wildcard show. I don’t get him.

Danny I actually see how he could be a front runner, but mostly it’s because of his early pimping that has made him almost indestructible at this juncture. His weaknesses will be more glaring once the feel is narrowed a bit more. He could be this years surprise boot, right after the judges save is either used or useless.

I think this thing is Adam’s to lose. I think if he really wants to win, that all he has to do is totally play the game. Pander a bit. Use his voice, his musicality, his beauty to just run away with this thing. I think he is a shoe in for the final two, if he is as smart as I think he is. Now if he wants to make a big splash I say he just goes nuts, over the top, and leave early and become the Daughtry to Danny’s far less appealing Taylor.

I might have some Anoop song hints tommorow!

Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ voice is not kareokee

Not to you maybe, but I find him to be a really nice guy, but totally karaoke. I think he’s a middle of the road singer, without star quality and I think that’s demonstrated in his recordings. But YMMV and all that, we all see and hear different things.

Danny has a huge fanbase, so donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t look for him to be leaving any time soon.

Oh I definitely think his fanbase is being underestimated. Even though it’s early in the season he’s also came in #1 on DialIdol more than anyone else so far. I think he’s a lot more popular than people give him credit for.

The new Idoltry that’s linked in the headlines thread is very interesting because I feel like that guy they had as a guest could be inside my head. He NAILED exactly what I like about Danny and what I don’t particularly like about Adam. “Straddling the line between awesome and ludicrous” is probably, IMO, the most accurate description for me.

All of Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances since Wild Card have been great: Whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Loving You, HUman Nature, So Small, Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Get It On. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve loved them all

Same here. I think Human Nature and So Small in particular have been very underrated. Matt also has a terrific recording voice.

Plus Anoop, Matt and Kris are splitting votes.

I think that Kris may be splitting votes with Danny as well (especially after watching Idolatory and hearing the…er…logic…um…that’s not the right word…er…motivation…that’ll do…of a Danny fan who also likes Kris). If Kris can outlast Anoop, Matt and Danny, he may have this thing in the bag.

Oh, I just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe they want Danny in the final. Taylor Hicks II with no future as a recording artist who sells millions. They will start depimping him again this week.

I would be deeply confused if they wanted Danny to win when they went out of their way to tell everybody that they didn’t like Taylor winning (everything short of running a PSA with Simon saying “I f’ing HATE Taylor Hicks”…probably only because the FEC wouldn’t approve of an ad with the f-word in it). Danny has everything that was wrong with Taylor without the passion or originality. IMO of course.

That said, the knoller in me wonders if the “impression” was the re-start of the depimping. TPTB knew that these kids were doing impersonations of each other. Ryan is like a lawyer during these “impromptu” sessions. He never asks a question he doesn’t know an answer to. They must have known that Danny had a cruel impersonation of Matt in his quiver. So, set him up by showing the video of Matt doing a fair impersonation of Danny (he sang it well, even Danny said so, and just making fun of his outraised hand…a “charming” quirk from a much lauded performances). Then, give Danny a chance do his impression of Matt. Danny is socially oblivious and thinks the show loves him. He’d never think to dial it back. Wham! TPTB get a depimping moment. Depimping is an art. It is not one action that causes a depimp. It is like a death from a thousand cuts.

Or maybe it’s just me imagining that on Final 7 night, the split the contestants into two groups and then, when Danny comes to the middle of the stage fully convinced that he will “get to pick a group” because “he is the top vote getter”, Ryan gets his water-cooler moment and cruely boots him. Then, Danny will think he will be saved and Simon will further twist the knife. Cue evil laughter. BWAHAHA. Okay, that’s never going to happen (Danny won’t lose that much support in two weeks) and I would call the producers a$$es if they did it, but Danny severely pissed me off with that impression and he’s about as clueless as the last tool who got booted in a cruel manner so I could see them doing it. If Danny gets the boot, I don’t think Ryan will be nice about it…there is just too much potential to surprise the confident.

Oh. Any guesses on who will have to “Pick a Group”? I’m pretty sure that it will be Danny, but if Anoop is still around, it will be him.

Two things that could impact this horserace:

1) Danny’s voice. This is my prediction. The guy’s voice will not make it to the finish line. He is already showing signs of strain and once they start singing multiple songs, forget it. You could hear it during his solo in the group song, DSB, and it’s only week 9. Rehearsals, recordings, performing. He will be croaking songs out once they get to the final 3.

2) Adam’s song choice. I agree with whoever said that Adam seems like a second choice for a lot of folks. They think he’s got a great voice, he’s a great performer, but they don’t like his style of music or his (now signature) rock wail. Come Disney week or Broadway week, if Adam picks a simple ballad that lets him show off his lower register, I think many of those semi-admirers on the fence will catapult over to his side.

My dream final five: Adam, Kris, Allison, Anoop and Matt

It would be criminal if Scott were to make it to the final 5.

I might have some Anoop song hints tommorow!

Seriously? How? Please share if you get them!

Matt I just never got, but it seems he has captured the imagination of many, but mostly because of his previous work and his current recordings

Well, that’s not true with the Matt fans I know. For me, he captured my imagination when he sang in Hollywood, and I’ve been on the Matt love train ever since. I didn’t hear any of his previous recordings until today, when someone linked one here.

I do love his recordings, but my fandom started before I heard them.

Anoop is experiencing something like Carly did last week. Do I please Simon (or the judges) or do I please my voters? Since he possibly doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what his voters want, he may not know wtf to do. I feel for him because I think he has been so much better than his critiques show.

I agree with you 100% on the last part. I know that he does read his facebook group postings, so he should know what his fans are *atleast* wanting him to sing/perform.

Danny – Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m seeing country singer. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got the pathos and the christian background.
Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.

Re: Danny and country. Danny will not fly in the world of country music. No. Country fans are true blue, but if you come into country as someone who “ZOMG I just found my love of country music yee-haw!”, they will spit in your drink and tape a kick-me sign to your back as they shove your ass out the saloon door. And sorry, but Danny with his Wiscaaansan accent won’t be believable to country fans. He loves Jesus, but that won’t matter.

And he’s pimped himself out as a ‘soul’ singer. If he does a quick switcharoo to country, well , see above.

Kris. Oh, Kris. He is sort of in the category of the 3Js, or as my friends and I call them, WDBs (Whiney Douchebags).

Oh. Any guesses on who will have to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Pick a Groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure that it will be Danny, but if Anoop is still around, it will be him.

I do hate the “pick a group” thing. However, I am pretty sure that in previous seasons it has been the top vote getter of that night who has had to choose.

I COMPLETLEY AGREE WITH YOUR TOP 5 PICK MJ! Anoop, Matt, Kris, Adam, and Allison are hands down the most likeable and talented contestants.

Scott is likeable; but his voice is bland. Lil has a powerhouse voice; but has failed to connect with the audience, chose the right song, and isn’t coming across as humble.Oh, and I hated the fact that the producers made it so that her kids got air time after her terrible performance!!! :rolleyes_wp:

Danny… is… idk. First of all, I know I said this in some other post, but his smile is CREEPY. Idk. It’s like he’s some demented pervert/plotting a murder! His voice is… :wallbash_tb:
I don’t find his dancing entertaining, I hate how he’s gettinig the sympathy vote… and gah! Yes, I do feel bad for bashing on him like this, because most of this is not his fault. It’s the producers’ fault. I most likely will like him a whole lot more…. WHEN HE GETS VOTED OFF. There’s something about him that just irks me. 0_0 Sorry for the long comment!!
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Oh. Any guesses on who will have to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Pick a Groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure that it will be Danny, but if Anoop is still around, it will be him.

It’ll be Anoop for sure. They cant sleep at night if they arent fucking with him on the show in one way or another.

Danny has everything that was wrong with Taylor without the passion or originality.

A chance to prove that it was Taylor and not the ‘white soul michael mcdonald style’ that failed. I don’t know. I think they see Danny as the next Garth Brooks. Or maybe I think he’s just a doughy guy who looks like a thumb.

Now if he wants to make a big splash I say he just goes nuts, over the top, and leaves early and becomes the Daughtry to Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s far less appealing Taylor.

LOL abbysee, you’re a great writer. Oops, off topic, so to the above quote, I’ll say, Word! :-)

I do hate the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pick a groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  thing. However, I am pretty sure that in previous seasons it has been the top vote getter of that night who has had to choose.

I dearly love Huff, but I’d be really surprised if he was the top vote getter the week he had to pick a group.

I think that TPTB have realized the power to de-pimp somebody with the “pick a group” thing. There really is no right answer and you will end up upsetting some faction of the voting public. Pick a group. Don’t pick a group. Short of faking a seizure on the stage, I don’t think that you can avoid alienating some faction. “Pretentious”. “Ass”. “Who does he think he is?” “Doesn’t even have the b@lls to pick a group”. “Copycat.” “That’s been done before.” “Why does he get to pick?” “The producers are trying to pimp him and I won’t have it!” It’s a true no win situation. Paula doesn’t like to look bad picking who did better. How on earth is a fellow contestant supposed to do it without looking bad.

Depimping is an art. It is not one action that causes a depimp. It is like a death from a thousand cuts.

LOL. This is quote of the week.

I do think they know how controversial Danny can be. They have been setting him up for the guillotine.

Adam knows how to be controversial himself, so they let him be.

All the talking back to judges this season is just so prompted.

Seriously though, for Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sake, I sincerely hope youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re wrong that he was only paying lip service for the hope of damage control. Because, he needs to understand the criticism and problems with how his performances play to the TV audience in order to bring it next week (and hopefully, the weeks to come.) I truly believe thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still hope, and I hope the best for him (unless and until heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s in the finals versus Adam, and then, not so much. ;-))

The last line made me lol.

Honestly, Anoop is a pretty smart guy. I think on the performance night there were a lot of factors that made him pop off at the judges, the major one likely being frustration. Another being called out as a wannabe that tapped into his insecurity of being a chubby nerdy kid growing up. Also his friends were there, and while Anoop never was a frat boy during his undergrad days, that had to have stung and seemed to imply he wasn’t taking the competition seriously.(Not a mind reader, just guessing here :) )

Quite natural, really. But being the smart guy that he is, it’s likely he cooled off, watched it back, and tried to be objective. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for being a decent human being and take his mea culpa at face value.

(P.S. He sure grew out of that chubby/nerdy phase nicely! I’m glad he didn’t shed the dimple when he shed the pounds. ;) )

So yes, this Anoop fan lives in hope, still.

Or maybe I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just a doughy guy who looks like a thumb.

LOL hollygo9, you too! Oh, uh, I mean, Word! :-)

Country fans are true blue, but if you come into country as someone who à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“ZOMG I just found my love of country music yee-haw!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , they will spit in your drink and tape a kick-me sign to your back as they shove your ass out the saloon door.

So, what about Jessica Simpson or Darius Rucker? They seem to be having a decent second act in country music. It happens.

How on earth is a fellow contestant supposed to do it without looking bad.

They aren’t. You are either supposed to show what a giant gooey sweetheart you are (Archie, Melinda, Huff) or they hope you act like a total jack*ss (Taylor).

Seriously? How? Please share if you get them!

If I get them, I will totally post them :jittery_tb:

They arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. You are either supposed to show what a giant gooey sweetheart you are (Archie, Melinda, Huff) or they hope you act like a total jack*ss (Taylor).

I can totally be sold on this theory. So……

Who do you think this season fits in the Giant Gooey Sweetheart catagory and who in the Total Jack*ss?

Any guesses on who will have to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Pick a Groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

In the past, they pick someone sweet and innocent, and popular with the other candidates: David A, Melinda, etc. That sort of personality could be Scott this year, but… they ALWAYS pick someone who is a clear front runner. Scott’s not a front runner IMO. So, say it will be Kris.

So, what about Jessica Simpson or Darius Rucker? They seem to be having a decent second act in country music. It happens.

Rarely.

At least Jessica Simpson has the tenuous connection of being from the south. And dating a Dallas Cowboy. And being pretty. Danny has none of these three.

Darius is also from the south, SC I think, and has the ability to sprinkle just the right amount of twang into his songs. And he has a better voice than Danny does.

So no, I don’t see Danny making it in country. Every time I hear him, I hear CCM. I mean, what sort of relevant album could he put out there to sell enough to go platinum?

^^^ Ohmigod, they’ll totally make Scott choose, as yet another lame, mindless, slight against the blind guy! Man, oh man, that would be really bad. I hope they don’t do that.

Victims of the “Pick A Group”

Season 3: George Huff (was so confused he flittered between the two groups until he eventually chose the divas – the wrong group)

Season 4: Bo Bice (He stood in the middle of the stage with his arms crossed and refused to choose

Season 5: Taylor Hicks (He did the cruel fake out. He walked over to Daughtry, shook his hand then moved to the other group – the right group)

Season 6: Melinda Doolittle (refused to choose. Sat down in the middle of the stage. I read that during the commercial she jumped off of the stage and got in Nigel’s face and bitched him out for putting her in that position)

Sesason 7: I think it was David Archuleta but I don’t remember what happened.

Who do you think this season fits in the giant gooey sweetheart catagory and who in the total jack*ss?

This season’s gooey sweetheart: Allison
This season’s flaming jack*ss: Danny

That sort of personality could be Scott this year, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ they ALWAYS pick someone who is a clear front runner. Scottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a front runner IMO. So, say it will be Kris.

Well, and I don’t mean to be rude, but it might be a little difficult for Scott to actually pick a group (visions of Ryan giving him a high five and sending him out from the couches to play Marco Polo).

Kris is a sweety, so maybe they will pick him. Adam actually strikes me as a very kind person as well. He just seems so considerate. Maybe it’s because he seems to be able to read people. Or maybe it’s those damn editors fooling me again and he’s a really a big diva who throws things at his mansionmates if they don’t do everything he wants.

I still think they will use it to depimp. Probably Danny (or Anoop).

Season 6: Melinda Doolittle (refused to choose. Sat down in the middle of the stage. I read that during the commercial she jumped off of the stage and got in Nigelà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s face and bitched him out for putting her in that position)

She really did that Nigel? Oh, my love for Melinda grows.

Just one week ago, I thought Megan was invincible. With all the bad performances, she still managed to escape the bottom 3. Now, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gone.

Yes, I went back last week to look at the same thread and a lot of people including MJ were predicting Megan to glide through at least top 7-6.

I think Scott is the new Megan :smile_wp:, people assume he has a strong niche of voters (hot girl/sympathy) and will get the worster vote to get him over the top.

The fact is that Scott is the weakest singer of the bunch and the eliminations so far have been mostly fair (only Alexis has gone before her hour), when the top 10 began, everyone was predicting Michael, Megan and Scott to exit first in some kind of order, we are still on schedule for that to happen.
He is not being pimped by the judges, he had his first good critics this week that should position him for a letdown (not sure what that would mean for him :confused_wp:), not being in the B3 this week is even more a sign that he could go next week, because people in the B3 tend to have a bounce the next week.

People tend to overreact from one week to the other, Kris Allen had the pimp spot, he had a good performance and positioned himself to compete with the frontrunners, before that he was considered mid pack.
Now comes the hardest part, actually confirming and stay there (only Adam has done that on a week to week basis). I am not his biggest fan, so I will not wager on his ability to achieve this, his voice is too middle of the road for me to think that the producers/judges will start to heavily promoting him.
Randy will want those lava hot bomb vocals that he is crazy about and Simon won’t apreciate Kris self effacing personality because he thinks people should act as stars like him.

I just don’t see what’s different between Kris this week and Allison last week. They even scored almost the same on DI (second behind Adam/Danny)

Sesason 7: I think it was David Archuleta but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember what happened.

I do believe it was David A… and he also sat in the middle of stage, refusing to choose.

Season 5: Taylor Hicks (He did the cruel fake out. He walked over to Daughtry, shook his hand then moved to the other group – the right group)

Really? Wow, what a jerk. It was Archie last year, who pulled a Doolittle.

This seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gooey sweetheart: Allison
This seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s flaming jack*ss: Danny

My choices too!

Kris Allen had the pimp spot, he had a good performance and positioned himself to compete with the frontrunners, before that he was considered mid pack.

In my opinion, Kris has had 3 very good performances in a row, while Anoop and Matt have been inconsistent. I think Kris has been surely, and steadily building a fan base in that time.

The fact is that Scott is the weakest singer of the bunch and the eliminations so far have been mostly fair (only Alexis has gone before her hour), when the top 10 began, everyone was predicting Michael, Megan and Scott to exit first in some kind of order, we are still on schedule for that to happen.

That’s in your opinion. Like Lil, I think there are lots of people out there who love the way Scott sings. It doesn’t hurt that he’s a really nice guy, plus there is the sympathy vote for his handicap.

Well, and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean to be rude, but it might be a little difficult for Scott to actually pick a group

You’re right Kristen, I didn’t point that out! It would be rude, offensive, and painful (not to mention time consuming) to make Scott do the choosing.

So, it will be Scott!!!

I shouldn’t joke – seriously, that would be awful.

It could be Matt. He always looked kinda shot-in-the-stomach every results show.

That is if he survives until Top 7. :ponder_tb:

*still crossing fingers for Allison*

I wouldn’t put it past the producers to make Scott choose. If they do, Scott should punk them and walk past both groups and off the stage.

It seems someone may have asked who will have to choose their top group this year. Here is my thought. It will be Danny. Why? Because they don’t want someone to sit down on the stage this year. No. They want someone who will talk their way through the entire situation and well, that’s Danny. That’s our Danny, like it or not, give him an inch and he’ll take a mile. Open the door and he’ll walk through, um, I just think that’s his personality. Some may be okay with it some (like me) thinks he has a lot to learn, but won’t necessarily hold it against him, and some will simply hate it. It’s all good.:)

People tend to overreact from one week to the other, Kris Allen had the pimp spot, he had a good performance and positioned himself to compete with the frontrunners, before that he was considered mid pack.

I know, I’m a touch nervous about Kris this week. However, just as I liked DC from top 24 last year and liked continuing to see him grow week to week, I really liked Kris starting with his “Man in the Mirror’ performance on elimination night and was waiting for that moment which happened this past week. He has been consistent like DC and my hopes are high that he will continue in that vein and grow! We’ll see. If he ends up in the top 2/3, I’ll be happy. :)

Scott is the ONLY deserving One. Case closed. The End.

Kris – part of the electric folk-pop movement a la Jason Mraz, John Mayer, Jack Johnson.

AnoopFan responded:

But, he doesnt have the personality or the voice.

Aw, AnoopFan…I think the “Kris has no personality” critique is losing more and more credibility each week. First of all, does Jason Mraz really have a “star” personality the way Simon would define it? I don’t think so. He is basically a laid back, talented, familiar sort of guy who wears a hat. And Jack Johnson…you see him as having a radically different personality than Kris? Come on.

Second, we are only now getting to know Kris, unlike most of the other finalists. The more people see Kris, the more they like him. Most American appreciate hard working, talented, friendly personalities…”the guy next door” type. This is why Archie could be so successful without a “rock star” personality. As I say, the ship has sailed on the “Kris has no personality” comment…you’ll have to think of something else.

And for what it’s worth…I’m sorry to say this…but many people now have a negative impression of Anoop’s personality. The words “arrogant” and “entitled” have been thrown around a lot recently. However that happened (you blame “baiting”), it happened. On American Idol, I guess I’d rather have “no personality” than to be known by those other adjectives.

Finally: the tired notion that Kris does not have the voice. Again, I think Kris has done more than enough to prove his skills as a singer…and a musician…and an artist. I really think the Idol game is changing. It is not about having the mid-90s-style belters voice anymore (thank goodness!). Neither Brooke or Jason last year had anything like that…and they went far and could have gone further if they did not get overly nervous or seemingly complacent.

Kris has a beautiful voice that he uses very effectively. He finesses and interprets a song rather than belt it. On the current Idol stage, I think that’s what a lot of people are interested in seeing. Since they introduced instruments, the game has changed. Thanks goodness, so far as I’m concerned.

On a different topic, I thought it would be interesting to take the scores at “What Not to Sing” and determine the standings of the remaining Idol wantabees. I took their weekly ratings and determined their average. Most had 5 ratings, while those that had to sing in the wild-card round had six. Here are the rankings from highest to lowest.

1. Allison Iraheta – 73.6

2. Adam Lambert – 70.2

3. Kris Allen – 69.6

4. Danny Gokey – 63.6

5. Matt Giraud – 58.2

6. Anoop Desai – 52.7

7. Lil Rounds – 41.0

8. Scott Macintyre – 40.4

Base on these, I’m predicting that Adam, Kris and Allison will be your final three, but only if they continue to perform well, and Allison can start to pick up some fans from the ones leaving each week. Otherwise, it will be Danny or Matt taking her place.

In my opinion, Kris has had 3 very good performances in a row, while Anoop and Matt have been inconsistent. I think Kris has been surely, and steadily building a fan base in that time.

Then why didn’t Allison build a fanbase :sad_wp:? She certainly had 3 very good performances in a row too before PWARS.
Well, I guess we will have to wait until Tuesday and see if Kris maintains his rank on DI.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s in your opinion. Like Lil, I think there are lots of people out there who love the way Scott sings. It doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hurt that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a really nice guy, plus there is the sympathy vote for his handicap.

I can only hope you’re wrong. I can’t get how someone could prefer the cheese that Scott sings over the awesome sound of AI.

I’d bet on Danny being the one who gets to pick the group this year. He’s the clear frontrunner and just seems like the ideal choice. But whoever does it, I hope they don’t act shocked OMG!!??!!? WHAT??!!!? BUT?!!?!? like it has never happened before. The show has been doing this for seasons, so at least be smart and be prepared and don’t pretend you weren’t expecting it.

I don’t think it will be Gokey. They have to formulate the groups in such a fashion where it’s not crystal clear who the Top Group is. The best way to confuse someone is to put a frontrunner in each group.

So one group will contain Gokey and the other will contain Adam. Someone sweet natured like Scott or Kris will be forced to choose.

Season 5: Taylor Hicks (He did the cruel fake out. He walked over to Daughtry, shook his hand then moved to the other group – the right group)

Really? Wow, what a jerk. It was Archie last year, who pulled a Doolittle.

JERK….I think you mean heartless Mucker Fother…..why this swine deserves to go on living I will never Know.

I predict they don’t do the “choose a group” thing at all this year. It’s ran it’s course. But I bet they do the “switch groups at the last minute” again.

So one group will contain Gokey and the other will contain Adam. Someone sweet natured like Scott or Kris will be forced to choose.

That means one of the two of them would have to be in the bottom 3 and I don’t see that happening.

Then why didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Allison build a fanbase

It’s a little puzzling. The fact that Kris is a cute guy may be helping him.

Well, God willing, it’ll be Gokey in the bottom 3. :op

I personally think it’s the opposite. They are going to make it really obvious and just dare the victim to choose the obvious.

Adam, Danny, Lil vs Allison, ?, ? (symmetry of gender, anyone?)

At this moment, it looks very much like Matt and Scott.

Then Kris in the middle.

This is how i see it now.

So one group will contain Gokey and the other will contain Adam.

That could only happen if one of the two of them lands in the bottom 3, which could happen, but I don’t think so.

I think that they will have Gokey choose if he’s in the top 4 that wek, because he’s the least likely to refuse to do so, IMO.

The fact that Kris is a cute guy may be helping him.

It certainly ain’t hurting him any :)

of course it is obvious that HOT—Scott is the BEST evaH……I am liking me some kris, but there is sumping bout his face that is buggin me and I just cannot put me finger on the prob…..but kris can sell a song(megan shoulda watched him)

It is amazing to me how so many people are writing off so-and-so or so-and-so because they have been in the bottom 3.

Season 1 Nikki McKibbin was in those ranks 5 times before she finally left at number 3.
Season 2 Kimberly Locke: 4 times before leaving at #3.
Season 3 Jasmine Trias: 3 times before leaving as #3.
Season 4 Anthony Fedorov: 4 times before leaving #4 and Vonzell Solomon: 3 times before leaving as #3.
Season 5 Elliott Yamin: 3 times before leaving as #3
Season 6 The exception
Season 7 Syesha Mercado: 5 times before leaving as #3.

It’s not over for anyone until they are actually sent home.

Edit: I forgot to add – Diana DeGarmo 3 times before leaving at #2

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a little puzzling. The fact that Kris is a cute guy may be helping him.

Allison is as sweet and likeable girl as I have ever saw one.

OldHad, you’re right! Anoop will be in the top 3!!

It is amazing to me how so many people are writing off so-and-so or so-and-so because they have been in the bottom 3.

oh yeah, you can hit the bottom three nearly every week and still make it to third place. But no eventual winner was ever in the bottom 3 before top 7, I believe.

It is amazing to me how so many people are writing off so-and-so or so-and-so because they have been in the bottom 3.

Are those all genuine B3s? Sometimes they are manufactured for drama. I would need to go back and look at the video. I think Katharine McPhee hit the B3 at least once or twice too.

Yes, it’s possible to be in the B3 several times and make it far. It’s also possible to be bounced without ever having made the B3.

oh yeah, you can hit the bottom three nearly every week and still make it to third place. But no eventual winner was ever in the bottom 3 before top 7, I believe.

True. Fantasia hit it top 7. Actually, most winners never hit it, but one never knows.

Then why didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Allison build a fanbase

Its easy to see why Allison fanbase is only now growing. Just look at MJ’s archive on Allison, she had some of the smallest coverage of the Top 36. Done in a blink of the eye audition, I still cannot find what she sang Hollywood day one and the Hollywood group round. We didn’t get much of a back story on her until her Group 2 performance. So, TPTB put her in the hole to start, and with the format this year, she didn’t get the two extra performances to build a fanbase before the Top12/13.

To be honest, if she didn’t blow every other girl in her group out of the water, I have severe doubts she’s have made Top 12/13. The audition/Hollywood coverage showed TPTB were not backing her, so I doubt she’d have been a wildcard.

Actually, most winners never hit it, but one never knows.

True that. Kelly, Carrie, Taylor and David all stayed out of the circle of sham…I mean shame. Maybe not :)

Its easy to see why Allison fanbase is only now growing. Just look at MJ’s archive on Allison, she had some of the smallest coverage of the Top 36.

I take your point, but Kris didn’t have much coverage either. A small snip of singing during the auditions, then he was part of the “I Want You Back” Hollywood group, but he was kinda pushed to the background there.

Are those all genuine B3s? Sometimes they are manufactured for drama.

Your point is well taken. I double checked with wikipedia and if an announcement of “the bottom … are” wasn’t made they denote that and only list what is offically announced. Such as in this year’s top 13 – only the two that went home are listed, not the two that stood up with them. So I assume it is correct. But, hey, simply because something is written doesn’t mean the writer is infallible.

edit: Feel free to disagree, but please donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t badger posters into defending their opinions.

Season 3 was an exception. Everyone was in the bottom 3 at some point of time. So you can’t clearly tell.

Diana might have 3 bottom 3 but she also had 4 pimp spots to even out.

Allison deserves to be last sistaH standing….I wonder what she did with that 50 thousand dollars she won (college savings ???)with that recording contract and did she record anything?

Anything can happen!

But no eventual winner was ever in the bottom 3 before top 7, I believe.

I love to quote numbers and look for patterns, but I’m not sure that 7 is a statistically significant number. It may be that we don’t have enough seasons to differentiate between patterns and coincidences. Now, that said, it takes a lot of votes to win a season and usually the front runners are well placed by this point. And the Top 9 curse of booting somebody who’d never hit the seal contiuned, so who knows.

Its easy to see why Allison fanbase is only now growing. Just look at MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s archive on Allison, she had some of the smallest coverage of the Top 36. Done in a blink of the eye audition, I still cannot find what she sang Hollywood day one and the Hollywood group round. We didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get much of a back story on her until her Group 2 performance. So, TPTB put her in the hole to start, and with the format this year, she didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get the two extra performances to build a fanbase before the Top12/13.

I might buy this if we’d hadn’t seen even less of Kris. He came out of nowhere and seems to be building a fan base quite well. I think the world of Allison, but something’s not connecting.

Wow – Fantasia hit the bottom 3 (or 2) twice. That was a weird season though.

In my opinion, Kris has had 3 very good performances in a row, while Anoop and Matt have been inconsistent. I think Kris has been surely, and steadily building a fan base in that time.

I’m not so sure about that, Mj. First of all I think Kris had one really good performance and 2 okay ones. I also don’t know if his fanbase is steadily growing. If Dial Idol is to be believed, it’s only this week that he was above Anoop and Matt. I don’t know if 1 week is a pattern yet. My thing with Kris is that even though he seems like a nice guy, there’s nothing really special about him or his voice. It’s nice but I haven’t heard anything I wouldn’t hear at a local lounge. One important thing he has that Matt & Anoop don’t is the support of the judges so I do think he has a good chance of staying longer.

My ideal top 5 would have Anoop, Matt, Allison, Danny, and Alexis (sadly impossible). I know Adam will be there but wouldn’t mind if he were the shock boot at 4th.

Danny is very Handsome but Scott is HOT…plus Scott has loads “O” charisma,,,,,,when I spot Scott on Game Night I begin to pant and breathe heavy—it is almost like seeing Simon in his Daddy Jeans but less……Danny is lovable and adorable and HUMble but Scott is where itzzz AT. And many viewers think Humble Danny has the Church vote–NOT– those church honey’s luv Hot SCott

I take your point, but Kris didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have much coverage either. A small snip of singing during the auditions, then he was part of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I Want You Backà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Hollywood group, but he was kinda pushed to the background there.

I noticed that also, both got the shaft from TPTB.

The judges handed Megan a wildcard spot, despite being the lesser talent to Jesse Langseth and Felicia Barton.

Okay, I just have to say one last thing before hitting my pillow tonight, simply because it has been somewhat of a mantra of mine throughout this season:

Jeeesssseeeeeeee!!!!!!

Good night all. Great thread! mj, you’re the best!

edit: we aren’t going there. If you disagree then state your opinion. But don’t ask posters to defend their opinions.

Also I do not wanna declare my Opine like it is Gospel,,,,but everyone knowzzz and cannot deny that Scott has the Best tone and greatest range of all remaining contestants. His Musicality rocks. I totally respect TPTB…..they are totally FAIR and even though they have been a little tuff on Scott I know it is just to get him to stretch even further than he already has….he has taken so many risk ^especially with the dancing^.

If Dial Idol is to be believed, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s only this week that he was above Anoop and Matt.

If DialIdol is to be believed, Kris has ranked higher than Adam two out of four times in the finals (since the top 13). Does this mean Kris is on par with Adam?

Also, if the actual Idol results are to be believed, Kris has not yet been in the bottom 3 (knock on wood)…the others have. And Kris made it to the top 13 from out of nowhere…Anoop and Matt were wildcards.* It seems to me that Kris must have–somehow–a significant fanbase already, and what he has done over the last few weeks could not have possible hurt it…only helped.

*I should say, I have absolutely nothing against these two guys, and prefer them to many others, and would be happy to have them in the Top 5.

Matt I just never got, but it seems he has captured the imagination of many, but mostly because of his previous work and his current recordings. Personally I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the weakest link of the remaining contestants as he has never had a really good performance since the wildcard show. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get him.

I don’t like Matt’s previous CDs (horrible material and production), but I love his Idol studio recordings. If he gets far enough in the competition and finds some good songs, I think he could pull an Elliott post-Idol. Count me in as one who hasn’t given up on Matt yet, although I got THIS close to dumping him for Kris this past week. He needs a really good performance this week to keep himself in the running.

Or maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just me imagining that on Final 7 night, the split the contestants into two groups and then, when Danny comes to the middle of the stage fully convinced that he will à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“get to pick a groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  because à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“he is the top vote getterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , Ryan gets his water-cooler moment and cruely boots him. Then, Danny will think he will be saved and Simon will further twist the knife. Cue evil laughter. BWAHAHA.

LMAO. This would be hilarious and make Season 8 the BEST. SEASON. EVER!

I can see how Kris has been building a fanbase. I did not like his Man in the Mirror performance AT ALL, but have grown to like him more and more as the weeks are going on. He is easy on the ears (and eyes), has been picking good songs, showing creativity and talent (playing 2 instruments!), and just being an all-around nice guy. He has a sound similar to some current popular artists and I can see where he could fit in.

What I DON’T get is why Allison has not been gaining fans. The girl is freakin’ fantstic. Plus, she seems 16 (rather than 16 going on 30 or 16 and acting 12). She comes across as a very real person, but nice at the same time. Her voice is amazing and it would be a crime for her to go home before the likes of Matt, Scott, and Lil. JMO.

I just hope Simon has on his best Daddy Jeans when he breaks humble danny’s heart……I shall weep.

on another note — I hope the contestants are getting enuff Fiber in their diet.

Or maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just me imagining that on Final 7 night, the split the contestants into two groups and then, when Danny comes to the middle of the stage fully convinced that he will à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“get to pick a groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  because à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“he is the top vote getterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , Ryan gets his water-cooler moment and cruely boots him. Then, Danny will think he will be saved and Simon will further twist the knife. Cue evil laughter. BWAHAHA.

If this happens, it will totally rescue this horrible season for me. I might declare it my favorite season ever. If only it really would happen…

edit: you know better than that

Sorry for causing problems, mj – I really wasn’t trying to.

This season has been an interesting one. There’s a lot of talent. I’m not necessarily an Adam fan (just not my kind of music), but I respect his talent. I just watched his “Dancing Through Life” from Wicked (LOVE that musical, btw), and I think I would really enjoy him in musical theater.

It’ll be nteresting to watch where everyone goes after the show. If he doesn’t win, I think Danny will go contemporary Christian – it’s a big section of his fanbase, and I think he would do really well there.

I don’t understand how Allison keeps winding up in the bottom. I love her voice! I don’t vote, so I suppose I can’t complain, but I hope she sticks around. She in some ways reminds me of Melissa McGhee (though Allison didn’t forget the words) – someone who’s really talented that for some reason doesn’t click with the audience. I’m glad Allison has stuck around longer than Melissa.

Looking forward to the rest of this season!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not so sure about that, Mj. First of all I think Kris had one really good performance and 2 okay ones.

Kris’s performances have been consistently good every week. Even the judges concur with that. Simon who is one of the most critical judges also has stated that also. That is why he is the Dark horse and moving up and people are finally noticing that too.

Kris has also shown artistic ability by re-arranging his songs, playing the guitar and the Keyboards, by doing this Kris has shown that besides being a singer he is also a music arranger and musician. I think that the Idol viewing public notice that and that is why he is gaining more voters.

Danny and Adam are still going very strong and have been consistent. I appreciate the fact that Adam tried to spice up an old Johnny Cash and he took a risk.

I do believe Matt has had better performances than what the judges believe, but Anoop has been the most inconsistent through out the competition. That is why Anoop didn’t make it originally from group 3. I used to be an Anoop fan, but he has not been consistent and now sings very Karaoke to me, and on that point I agree with the judges.

Sadly Anoop has shown that he is a very inconsistent performer, plus that talking back incident to the judges did not appear very civil to the casual viewing audience. Many people who are not that into Idol saw that as being sort of arrogant. I understand some of fans thought that was a good move on Anoop’s part, but I think too many causal viewers of Idol it was a big turn off.

I think Anoop has more problems not with Kris and his fanbase, because they appear to like different genres of music. Folk-Pop is different than R/B-Pop. Anoop’s bigger problem is the other R/B singers in the competition. Because many times Folk – Pop people buy Folk-Pop music and R/B people buy R/B so comparing Kris to Anoop is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

I don’t think Allsion is the “sweetheart” and adorable to everyone. Especially young girls who traditionally like the all american, feminine, cute, pop singers like Miley. I like Allison, but know people who think she’s “rough around the edges”, a little “hard”, and they think she’s hoarse and losing her voice. She, like Kelly, has a significant lesbian following. I think Kelly and Allison share certain characteristics, but Kelly has more charm (where Allison is funny and louder) and Kelly’s voice isn’t as gravely and more pop. I know people like Allison’s gravely voice, but this might be one small thing that is going on that is an obstacle in the immediate large fanbase. It might take more time to warm up to her. (I don’t think the imitations helped anyone. Matt on the piano was cute. But the others were excruciating lame to the people I’ve talked to and did none of them any favors imo and I know most of you will disagree with this here and that’s cool.)

Kris is the other large obstacle to Allsion. I see Kris as Archie 2. Exactly. He’s goofy and awkward in his face and body movements during his performances. But he’s cute and charming too so he can get away with it. Kris is also part of a very conservative religion and has strict conservative – love the sinner hate the sin – code. Yet, like Archie, Kris religion is all about embracing and loving those sinners. Getting close to them, while remaining firm, is the way to help them. Therefore, they both stand for strong conservative values, yet are open and loving to all people. So they grab the conservative middle America vote without offending or angering others. They are gentle performers.

I just watched EW’s Idoltry for this week and even they are on the Danny and Kris finale team. I can’t see anything other than this. I think Kris/Archie will prevail this year. Danny is most like Cook with the good back story, strong voice, and cougar votes. Cook, imo, is more……everything. But, that’s the closest to him we got and since he’s Cook lite, Kris wins.

Adam is the most talented imo, has risked more, and has worked harder and wants this the most. His struggling artist story is compelling and I think he deserves it. But, like Sleziak says, he strattle the line between awesome and ludicrous. I’m also still not buying that people will vote in a flamboyant gay and some don’t understand what he’s all about. Adam isn’t going to be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s cool. I don’t think he desires to be. However, I have come to the decision that I’ll never be able to make a guess to what he’ll do next, or even what he’ll come out with after Idol. I will change my mind about Adam’s chances if he makes it another week without being in bottom 3. He does have that fanatic fans on myspace/facebook that Archie and Cook have (little scary to me), and he’s gotten it much earlier and from all ages and walks of life so maybe he’s appealing to more people than I think but I’m not ready to put him in the top 3 yet. I also like that he strattles the line between awesome and ludicrous and don’t want him to change. Melinda Dolittle said he was her favorite, so I may be wrong and he’s appealing to more people but time will tell.

So, at this point, I see Kris as the clear winner. Not even any competition. I’m seeing it all over the web and from friends. Kris owns Danny in the finale. Mraz, Mayer I don’t think so. But I think he can entertain Idol audiences for awhile and he can do contemporary christian to if that fails.

I really don’t see Kris in the finale at all.
Kris and Danny. Way boring…
Adam will be in there for sho. The question is with whom? In my own fantasy world it will be with Matt. Heh.

MJ worte:

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a little puzzling. The fact that Kris is a cute guy may be helping him.

MJ, I think there are probably two reasons for that. Just like Kris Allen, Allison Iraheta didn’t appear to the viewing public until the night she first appeared on the show to sing. Like Kris, and other contestants who had to build up a fanbase after either not been shown in the auditions or shown very little.

That is why many Rickey Braddy people were upset because Rickey Braddy, Like Allison and Kris just appeared on the same night that the public voting was to start. So they didn’t have any early “pimping” and had to earn it by being strong singers or artistic.

The second reason is that many women pick male singers over girl singers. Even if a male singer has been inconsistent, and even if a female singer has been good, the female singer will have be EXCELLENT to out last an inconsistent male singer.

I think if Anoop flat ironed his hair and got some Hi and Low lights and put on some cowboy western type footwear with a nice dark washed pair of denim type pants and white cotton shirt with an Elvis collar and then sung an englebert humperdink /tom jones type song …..he might go Top 5.

Kris is also part of a very conservative religion and has strict conservative

Kris is not the only Christian in the group.

Actually Matt Giraud is a conservative Christian. His CD music was contemporary Christian music.

Danny Gokey is also a Conservative Christian and so is Michael Sarver.

Scott McIntyre and Lil Rounds are also heavily influenced by Christian music.

So being a “Conservative” Christian is matter a fact in a group of mostly conservative Christians.

Last year Archie and Brooke were from the Conservative Mormon church, and Jason Castro is from a Conservative Christian church in Texas.

Jordin Sparks, Ruben Studdard and even Clay Aiken were from Conservative Christian sects, but that didn’t effect their performances or records sales.

Even Chris Daughtrey was from a church background.

Plus Mandisa, Phil Stacey and Chris Sligh.

Hinduism is also very a “Conservative” religion also

I guess with explaining Kris and his religion, I was making a point that Kris can pick up some of Danny’s voters with whom certain morals are important. But, that, like Archie, he can remain strong with his beliefs while being open and loving. Thus expanding his appeal beyond conservative voters.

It’s just one of many things I think Kris has going for him. The other the tween/teen voters who love adorable. And to me Allison isn’t “adorable”. She’s different, confident, strong and quirky. I like that, but some young girls like the girly pop Miley type. These are just small, simple observations that may or may not explain why Kris is so popular and Allison is struggling at the moment.

And, with Adam. He’s like an ADD little kid. He’s not going to just go along with the program for 7 more weeks. He’ll get bored to death and stir crazy. He’s going to do some crazy **** at some point. And I mean crazy to someone like me whose loved everything he’s done and just thought “oh that’s just Adam and I can see his view of art in that”. Also, sometimes it take some Adam fans a few days to really like something because it takes them by surprise. The motivation to vote hard needs to be immediate, and ha, in his case it may take a day or so for some fans to pick their jaw up off the ground.

I will take Allison over miley EVERYDAY.

coco
Apr 5th, 2009 at 1:33 am
I think if Anoop flat ironed his hair and got some Hi and Low lights and put on some cowboy western type footwear with a nice dark washed pair of denim type pants and white cotton shirt with an Elvis collar and then sung an englebert humperdink /tom jones type song à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..he might go Top 5.

LMAO, I’m on to you coco!

that’s cool cay. I am just pointing out that Kris isn’t the only Christian in the group.

;^)

on another note à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I hope the contestants are getting enuff Fiber in their diet.

Excellent point, coco!

I do believe Matt has had better performances than what the judges believe,

I’m really confused because I have just re-watched every Matt performance since the top 13 and the judges have absolutely loved every single performance of Matt’s except for You Found Me. They even went so far as to say for 2 weeks in a row that he is a frontrunner. They were very disappointed this past week in Matt but as Kara said he is a talented guy and does not deserve to go home. Nor do I believe Randy, Paula, or Simon want him to leave either.

I firmly believe if Matt comes out this week and sings a kick ass song with a soulful twist the judges will love him again. I for one can’t wait to see what he does. I’m hoping for a ballad with just his voice and the piano. I’d love it if he sang Say You Say Me by Lionel Richie. This last week the judges didn’t like him because they don’t feel he is a pop rock singer. However, they hardly crucified him. Unlike they did with Anoop. They told him that they didn’t like his song choice and that he needs to go back to his R&B/Soulful performances they feel he is great at. Randy even said that vocally Matt is better than the song You Found Me. They have IMO been way more exicted about Matt than either Kris or Anoop… except for Kris’ performance this week.

Every single contestant can have a bad week and end up in the bottom but bounce back just fine. Just as Matt did this week and he didn’t even have a great performance that tells me he has many many fans that want him in this. There are so many variables as to why someone who is popular ends up in the bottom 3. I don’t believe for a minute that Matt was in the bottom 3 because he doesn’t have a fanbase or he isn’t gaining new fans.

I also don’t see the inconsistency with his performances. I think he has been consistently amazing every week since the top 13 with the exception of this past week. Although I didn’t think it was as bad as it is being labeled. Most singers do have a bad night every now and again but that doesn’t mean they aren’t great vocalists…at least IMO.

I don’t know who will win but I believe Matt has just as much of a chance as anyone else. He just needs to continue picking great songs, having great performances, and winning over America’s heart with his passion, incredible talent and musicianship. He already has mine! I think it is way too early to count Matt out!

I think if Anoop flat ironed his hair and got some Hi and Low lights and put on some cowboy western type footwear with a nice dark washed pair of denim type pants and white cotton shirt with an Elvis collar and then sung an englebert humperdink /tom jones type song à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..he might go Top 5.

Anoop would still have to sing, and that is where they seperate the Karaoke singers from the stars…lol

TheRealLife, I think the problem with Matt, who I love his singing, is that Matt is competing with other R/B singers in the group.

Matt should be higher than Lil, because he has shown that he is more artistic and creative. Matt is also a better singer than Anoop, who is the other R/B singer. I think they are spliting the votes. That is why so far both Matt and Anoop have been in the bottom 3. Once one leaves I think the other R/B singer will get their votes.

Matt should be higher than Lil, because he has shown that he is more artistic and creative. Matt is also a better singer than Anoop, who is the other R/B singer. I think they are spliting the votes. That is why so far both Matt and Anoop have been in the bottom 3. Once one leaves I think the other R/B singer will get their votes.

I totally agree Cakenbake and I wonder if Michael’s leaving helped Matt this week?

“I say we slip Matt a 1/2 a xanax preferably a .25mgà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Smooth Matt would be a Top 4 for sure.”

LOL, he does need to get his nerves under control though. Does anyone notice when they show the video clips with the mentors he always sounds way better?

I say we slip Matt a 1/2 a xanax preferably a .25mg…Smooth Matt would be a Top 4 for sure.

TheRealLife. I think if Scott leaves his votes would probably be split three ways; Danny, Kris and Matt, because of they sing easy listening music and because Matt plays the piano.

If Anoop leaves I think Matt and Kris would get many of his votes from female fans.

That is what I think would help Matt, but Matt has to make to the next round first and out beat Scott and Anoop. I think if Allison leaves I think Allison’s votes would go to Adam and Kris, because they closely resemble the rock-pop genre that Allison did.

I’m smart enough to recognize that coco is joking!

But seriously, Anoop’s vocals are PHENOMENAL, he’s destined for greatness, IMO.

I thought both Megan and Matt sang better when they were with the mentors. I think the nerves are getting to many of the singers this year.

I used to like Anoop, but I don’t like that he has been inconsistent and I didn’t care for his ‘tude’ when he received criticism from the judges. There have been many contestants this year and in previous years who had harsher words and handled it much better and some were younger contestants, IMO.

As long as either Kris or Allison (or both!) is in the Top 5, I suppose I’ll be satisfied. I’m just not thrilled with anyone else. Maybe it’s because I tend to gravitate away from the ones that it seems everyone and their brother likes. Yes, I was a DC fan last year and he won, but I was a fan of him back when he didn’t have many fans and was known simply as “the combover guy” while everyone else was fawning over Archie. So I guess that’s what’s happening with me again this year, only I don’t foresee one of my favorites rising up and stealing the title. I’d love to see it happen, though!

I do think that Kris will outlast Allison, though. And I’m okay with that. Of course, in my dream world, they are the final two. But in reality, I’m simply going to support them for as long as possible and then follow them after the season ends.

Danny is very Handsome but Scott is HOTà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦plus Scott has loads à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Oà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  charisma,,,,,,when I spot Scott on Game Night I begin to pant and breathe heavyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ it is almost like seeing Simon in his Daddy Jeans but lessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Danny is lovable and adorable and HUMble but Scott is where itzzz AT. And many viewers think Humble Danny has the Church voteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’NOTà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ those church honeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s luv Hot SCott

Also I do not wanna declare my Opine like it is Gospel,,,,but everyone knowzzz and cannot deny that Scott has the Best tone and greatest range of all remaining contestants. His Musicality rocks. I totally respect TPTBà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..they are totally FAIR and even though they have been a little tuff on Scott I know it is just to get him to stretch even further than he already hasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.he has taken so many risk ^especially with the dancing^.

I say we slip Matt a 1/2 a xanax preferably a .25mgà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Smooth Matt would be a Top 4 for sure.

Coco FTW!!!!

ROFLMAO!!! :lol_tb:

Lil’s blandness has really surprised me the most….the song choices and the way she has delivered them the last 3 weeks and who is picking her clothes and hair. Yall think she is being sabotaged????

ANOOP’s vocals are consistently smooth, rich & satisfying to my ears!!! SO SEXY ANOOP!!!!!! I love his ‘tude also. Confidence is a virtue. :innocent1_tb:

Actually Anoop is pretty with great skin.

Actually Anoop is pretty with great skin.

Yes, Anoop is HAWT & he can SAANG!!!

Good Nite coco

I totally agree, coco & Qcloud9 – Anoop is awesome! I so hope he picks a good song this week..

Kris is my (dark) horse in this race and I’m betting on him to go all the way to 3rd before slamming into the brickwall of the Adam/Danny finale (poor adorable horsey.)

In the world of Michellewouldlikeit the Top 5 would be:
Kris
Alexis
Adam
Allison
Anoop

(a better kind of “kaaaa!”)

But in the real world I agree with MJ’s 5, except I’m still not sold on Scott making it that far. I think he’s picking up a lot of casual votes, and traditional-voice voters who prefer him over Lil. In fact my bf liked him best this week, which was a big surprise to me, it may be a Billy Joel thing? But fanbases will knock him out before Top 5.

Adam: I don’t think his sexuality will be that much of an issue for him. For one thing it seems to have gained him a devoted following. For another, “America” is probably more accepting of gay people in the entertainment industry, like, “oh, well that’s Hollywood”. He’s quite the force of nature on the stage and although he’s not my cuppa (ergh I am starting to get tired of that saying) I wouldn’t be surprised if he won, nor would I begrudge it to him.

Danny: I actually don’t think TPTB meant for Danny to be a finale contender but they underestimated his fanbase. I certainly don’t know why it’s so large and devoted, but there it is, making him the default #1 placement on Dial Idol every week. I dislike him but if I’m being honest it’s just cause in the beginning this season seemed like it was going to be such a bore that I grasped at the hateration just to have something to occupy me ::shrug::

That said I would be disappointed if he won and I hope he doesn’t, because I think he’s getting by much more on backstory and sympathy than on actual talent.

Kris: He’ll make it to 3rd as long as the judges don’t sabotage him, and he keeps making smart choices regarding song choice and upping his game. He’s my personal fave but this show still favors a big voice and a big personality. Contestants like Kris, who may be very talented and appealing to viewers but don’t have crazy pipes or can grab attention, always seem to stall out before Finale.

I’ll be happy if he makes it to 3 though — I don’t know if Idol could make a big star out of him considering his genre straight out the gate, and there is always such pressure on #1 and #2 to succeed that if they’re not platinum by the next year they’re tagged as failures. #3 is a nice spot to go and have a good respectable career w/o being held to increasingly unrealistic standards as an Idol winner or runner-up.

The judges’ reaction to Kris is sort of interesting in that they haven’t gone OTT one way or the other on him like they’ve been prone to do with the others. I’m of the school that thinks TPTB didn’t expect him to make Finals (and thought Matt would make it from his semi group via the vote) so they didn’t have a plan for him in the scheme – but are now waiting to see how he does if they just leave him be, maybe to totally replace whatever role they had planned for Matt. I tend to agree he’s the “patsy” for Adam and Danny, someone who can knock out the other soul guys but will be easy to knock out himself once he’s served their purpose on account of the fact that he doesn’t have power vocals or flashy stage persona :(

Allison: If we’re talking talent Allison should make 4 at the very least. The girl *is* the package artist they keep blabbering about. She’s practically Miley, from the personality to the stage presence, except with this amazing voice. She’s young enough that they’ll be able to mold her as they like and she’ll be around for *years* to milk.

Allison did well on Motown week when the show supported her w/a final performance slot and judge’s recognition – DialIdol showed her just behind Adam (who had arguably his strongest showing w/ToMT). Besides that she’s been near the bottom, despite being pretty consistent week to week vocally.

So why didn’t her strong Motown week showing stick? I agree it’s cause she hasn’t solidified a fanbase, what with not being a cute guy and the AI audience being what it is. I also think it’s cause the judges have been generally dismissive and even rude in their critiques to her, which give the audience the impression that she’s not to be taken seriously. I’m still baffled as to why they seem to be sabotaging her.

Lil is picking up the diva vote, even though IMO she pales next to every diva who’s been on Idol. She’s no JHud or Melinda, she doesn’t even have Syesha’s sparkle. But she’ll be around forever cause of that vote and cause for some inexplicable reason the judges refuse to criticize her.

Anoop and Matt are self-destructing. Anoop especially had a lot of early buzz and a fanbase just waiting for a reason to love him but while he’s delivered on vocals, he’s been pretty bad at song choice and presentation. Matt has a gorgeous voice as shown on his studio cuts but just can’t seem to pull it off on stage where it matters. Matt’s got more potential to make Top 5 IMO but he’s hit bottom 3 so often already…

Entertainment Weekly brings back the Danny Gokey love. They finally bring in someone who loves Danny Gokey to balance it out:

http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20007164_20174011,00.html?bcpid=3887239001&bclid=3343000001&bctid=18596733001

Two Entertaiment Weekly critics discuss how they are on opposite ends of the spectrum concerning Danny. I think it is only fair because many people like Danny also.

Oh, but both critics concur…THEY LOOOOOOVE KRIS ALLEN…lol The critics also discuss how Kris is moving up and being consistently good every week. Yay, for this talented underdog of season 8. Hard work and artistry paid off for Kris. I appreciate when a singer/performer does that for the Idol viewing audience.

The critics have good taste in men and music.

Also Kris Allen was the 3rd most searched “celebrity” on Yahoo celeb photo search yesterday. So congrats to the dark horse of Season 8 Kris Allen.

I am like Slezak. I wish Allison would make it to the top 5 also. She is more deserving than some of the other contestants.

Megan sang better when standing by the mentor than on stage.

Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blandness has really surprised me the mostà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.the song choices and the way she has delivered them the last 3 weeks and who is picking her clothes and hair. Yall think she is being sabotaged????

I think she is sabotaging herself. Can’t blame anyone but Lil for not being as good as she thinks she is and making terrible song choices. It’s not like the producers forced her to sing a “Happy Feet” song.

If we are casting the r&b diva, I’ll take Syesha any day over lil. Lil hasn’t demonstrated even once why she deserves to be in this top 10.

Btw, Sy’s version of that Beyonce song on the idol tour was a surprising showstopper. I really feel for those who shell out money to see this current group when they tour. 19 may need a bail out. j/k, obviously.

>>>Danny: I would be disappointed if he won and I hope he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, because I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s getting by much more on backstory and sympathy than on actual talent.>>>

I would also. I truly believe that if Ricky Braddy had ever been shown, he would still be around with his beautiful vocals and he was cute enough. My friends and I saw quite a bit of *Ben Afleck* in certain Ricky angles and that’s cute.

Allison, also, never received any pimpage and suddenly appeared on the first real singing night and took down the top female spot. Since then, at best, she is mostly ignored. Paula likes her, but then again, who doesn’t Paula like? Kara likes her, but who listens to Kara? I truly believe Randy likes her, but we all know that Simon mostly ignores her, throws her a *low voiced* SOLID PERFORMANCE (that we can hardly hear) and picks *her* moment to jerk around, taking her spotlight away from her.

The fact that he waited patiently for weeks while she dressed *casually and young* to finally attack her outfit just shows that for whatever reason, they want her out of there…possibly because she is a threat to their plans?

My choice would have been Allison, Adam and Ricky in any order. Well, Ricky never even got to see the light of day (Superstition was shoved down his throat to hide his beautiful vocals as much as possible) Adam is ubertalented as is Allison in a different way. Adam dominates the stage, but so does the very comfortable silly loveable talented Allsion.

My advice to her is: Give them their slow song, pull your hair back, dress simply, sit on a stool and go acoustic the way Jordis Unga did (with her similar rasp) while singing the 1992 Nirvana’s “The Man Who Sold the World”

That would be a true moment for Allison and let them try and ignore that.

I don’t believe Scott (and I like him a lot) bought more than one week with Billy Joel. They have been dying to dump him for weeks and probably will along with Anoop and Matt. I don’t know what order those three will go in, but IMO, they will. That will leave Allison three weeks to win a fan base and the judges.

I think she can do it and outlast Lil and you never know when the Kris love will die. It came and it may go almost as quickly for the also never pimped Kris.

Danny: I loved him in his audition. Not so much since. He is boring me

Adam, OTOH, never bores me and if he doesn’t get too *audacious* will be in the finale. Control yourself, Adam, you have to play the game.

Again, IMO, Ricky was cut, in order, not to outperform or endanger the species known as Danny, as was Von who might have cut into Adam’s vote.

I still see the finale as Danny(the Christian Minister) vs. Adam(the Devil Incarnate)

I can only hope for Allison to come in third, although I prefer Adam/Allison finale and then WHO CARES?

Who is actually buying their faves songs and vids on line? All I buy are Adam’s. Do I want to hear any of the others on my radio? NO. When they get off AI, they are competing with the real world, and in my mind, all but Adam will not.

What I DONà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T get is why Allison has not been gaining fans. The girl is freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fantstic. Plus, she seems 16 (rather than 16 going on 30 or 16 and acting 12). She comes across as a very real person, but nice at the same time. Her voice is amazing and it would be a crime for her to go home before the likes of Matt, Scott, and Lil. JMO.

I think there may be several reasonson for this.

1. Most of the teens/tweens who might vote for her are already smitten with either Adam and/or Kris, over whom they can tard out and write slash/mpreg fiction. (Yes, it’s true!)

2. Alison’s performance last week was pretty good, but the judges ripped her apart for her outfit (which was admittedly a bit wacky :) ). Teens/tweens who aren’t tarding out over Adam/Kris may not mind that, but the overall age of viewers is older. I do think they are more willing to see outlandish costuming on a grown man (Adam) than someone they may see as a precocious teen (Alison).

3. Alison is sort of unfiltered, and acts her age. To some folks this is refreshing, to many it may seem she’s a little strange and make them wonder if she can handle the title of The Next American Idol. Jordin was ZOMG ONLY 17!!1!, but she was fairly poised during her AI run.

4. Unfortunatetly, AI isn’t only about talent. It’s about editing, personality, impression, EDITING, manipulation, and a whole host of other things. These things are not working in Alison’s favor.

5. She was barely shown before the semis. Kris had this problem as well, but he’s cute and non-threatening, and safe. This works in his favor just as much as his musical abilities.

I’m not saying I agree with these things, but I do think they factor into the overall reason she isn’t gaining more support.

Mileage and etc.

“Save the rocker chick Save the season” :smile_wp:

Here’s the dif with Taylor and Danny. I would pay to see Taylor. If you gave me Danny tics for free, I wouldn’t go.

Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got more potential to make Top 5 IMO but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hit bottom 3 so often alreadyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

He’s been in the bottom 3 only once.

mj, I mostly agree with your assessment of who will make top 5, but with the potential for Matt and Anoop to show great improvement, I’m not ready to put Scott in the top 5 yet. Too bad that Allison’s potential fans are all squeeing over the guys, she is such a talent. I love Lil because she has her own unique style but she has failed to bring it these last few weeks (tho Let Freedom Ring was outstanding). She is going to have to step her game up to make top 5, imo.

I flove Adam and really hope that he doesn’t wind up doing only electronica or Lady Gaga type stuff. He’s so much more than that. He could do virtually anything he wants. I personally would like to see him take the rock route but if Warren gets a hold of him, it’s probably over…blech!

Danny is overrated IMO – he has the voice but where is his entertainment ability?
I would love to see Scott, Danny, and Anoop go home next. I agree that Matt is not showing any growth. And I wish he would quit with the red lollipops before he performs. His mouth looks like he has just finished one before he takes the stage.

Adam, Kris, and Allison are my final 3 – don’t care who wins but those are my top 3 picks. After this week, my choices became clear to me. I too am guilty of not voting as many of you, but I’m going to start to try to help Allison stay longer.

To echo what many have said already, I too miss the old Anoop and the old Matt. They seem as though the life has been sucked out of them, like they have no confidence anymoreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ much like Jason did at the end of his run on the show. I hope that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean the end for those two. :(

Both of these guys started at a disadvantage. As wild cards they clearly had less voters to begin with so had to depend on building a fanbase. To do that they needed to be consistently good in an identifiable style and neither of them have. They are both too insecure as performers and let the judges comments change their approach to both choosing styles and performing.

Unfortunately having a strong sense of self and being able to hold up under pressure are essential in this game and they are both failing miserably in this regard. Matt has a wonderful talent but just can’t perform on demand. And Anoop may have a good voice but I feel he lacks any sort of performance skills and simply does not have a commercial look. He does look like a geeky frat boy wannabe.
His getting cranky during comments set him back ever further.
Say what you will about Scott, but at least he has a clear idea of what he wants to sing- his choices don’t swing on the whim of judges comments like Matt’s and Anoop’s do. Kris has a style, too.

And, with Adam. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like an ADD little kid. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not going to just go along with the program for 7 more weeks. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get bored to death and stir crazy. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to do some crazy **** at some point.

I don’t see this at all. Aside from the 90 seconds of performance time Adam is the most grounded and stable of the whole lot. And as far as having a secure sense of self, he is worlds above the rest.
I think the recent stir crazy comments are from anyone but Adam, frankly.

What I DONà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T get is why Allison has not been gaining fans. The girl is freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fantstic. Plus, she seems 16 (rather than 16 going on 30 or 16 and acting 12). She comes across as a very real person, but nice at the same time. Her voice is amazing and it would be a crime for her to go home before the likes of Matt, Scott, and Lil. JMO.

I like Allison, and I do vote for her.
But her personality appeals to the young and her voice appeals to the old. Simplified statement, sure. But I think it illustrates her dichotomy and why she is having difficulty building a fanbase.

Now- here’s something.
Who would pay $10 a month for access to the footage being shot inside that house?
If TPTB are so interested in the almighty dollar, why haven’t they given us that option? We could sure get a better idea of who is a giant douche and who is worthy of our adoration.

I’m just sayin’……

Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got more potential to make Top 5 IMO but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hit bottom 3 so often alreadyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Matt has only hit the bottom 3 once. Last week he was safe and not in the bottom 3. Matt CAN make the top 5 and beyond. He has just as much talent and passion as the rest, if not more. It’s just his nerves he needs to get a handle on, which in understandable. I would get nervous, too.

Danny/Adam/Kris for the final three is what ptb have in mind. They will swap out Kris with maybe Lil if Kris starts gaining too many votes because ptb are salivating over a Danny/Adam finale (good vs. evil). Danny will win–at least that’s what I think ptb will try to make happen.

Personally, I’d rather see Kris win. Danny’s voice isn’t as good as the other too and Adam is too indulgent in his arrangements and I still can’t get Sam Harris out of my head when I listen to Adam. I floved Adam’s Satisfaction, but it has been touch and go since then.

Why is Allison not gaining votes — IMO she should have waited two years before trying out. She is very hard to understand when she sings and she runs all of the sentences together and sucks out the beat, which is why I hated her performance of Papa Was A Rolling Stone. On a personal level, I wish I liked her more, but, there you have it.

While I agree with those who say Matt is very talented, my own opinion is that he’s not memorable to me. I often have to recall he’s in the competition after I see others perform. I’m sometimes impressed when he sings, but by the end of the show (no matter where he’s placed), I can’t recall what he did. He blends in.

I think the problem is that in any other season, Matt would be a standout. This season, he’s majorly overshadowed by some pretty amazing (and more charismatic) talent. I’m an Adam fan and in my mind, no one else up there has the incredible talent, showmanship, flash, allure and personality he has. All the others pale in comparison. This is my own personal opinion and I realize not everyone is on the Adam train to the top.

I don’t see Lil being saved. She impressed me in her audition, but not since. I don’t believe she’s lived up to the hype and she knows it too. Love her as a person and want to see her do well, but I don’t see Top 3 potential.

And, with Adam. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like an ADD little kid. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not going to just go along with the program for 7 more weeks. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get bored to death and stir crazy. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to do some crazy **** at some point.

I really believe Adam is going to continue to reign it in for the remainder of the competition. Putting it all out there as he’s used to would just be too risky. Compared to what I’ve seen on YouTube, etc., I’m impressed that he’s gone this long keeping it under the radar. If he’s ever going to do it, it will be finale night when he has nothing to lose. Now that I would love to see.

Does anyone believe that Allison suffers some because Idol already has Kelly Clarkson?

I agree with most of the other theories of why she’s not gaining ground as her talent and performances suggest she should. And, true, AI appears to be a rough road for the rocker chick, not to mention that the judges clearly are not giving her even adequate attention must less the props she’s earned. But that point only leads me back to my original question….

>>>Does anyone believe that Allison suffers some because Idol already has Kelly Clarkson? >>>

I would agree, but only to a point since as far as I know, Kelly is not totally signed with them and is not the *cash cow* that Carrie is, so why not get another lookalike that they can grab loads of money from in the ridiculous contracts that they make the winners sign?

I am only hoping that Miley’s endorsement of Allison will help her build a fan base. Miley shows that young girls will still support another young girl.

Allison does remind me of a mix of Kelly and Miley in her appearance. I have seen videos of Allison on You tube with her hair pulled back and a bit thinner and she is really cute and less *rockerish.* I do think she would sell if she got a contract.

What really bothers me the most is that from the beginning, they made their plans (as usual) for the finale and/or the top five.

Danny was pimped to the point that they should have just stood him on the corner in fishnets and highheels. Adam was shown and lauded as was Lil.

We never saw Allison or Ricky or even Kris who seems to be breaking through somewhat, but I don’t believe them that he has a chance for the finale unless Adam becomes so way out there (don’t do it, Adam) that he has to be replaced.

Kris is getting a good word now, because IMO, there is simply no eye candy on the show at all. Danny? Adam would be, but…Matt, Anoop, not sexy at all.

So Kris is now the hot one? Compare it to DWTS with Gilles, Dimitri and Maks and hot takes on a whole different meaning, but Kris is all the panting girls have, so he is taking on the old *Kimberly Locke* BS (being told he is becoming a contender) yeah, like anyone but Danny and Adam have a shot at the finale.

Adam is so talented, but Danny? I guess you can pimp anyone long enough. At least I used to think he was a good guy, but that imitation he did of Matt gargling his riffs was meanspirited and made me wonder? JMO

Go ALLISON!!!!! I WANT AN ADAM/ALLISON FINALE SO BAD!!!!

Adam, Kris, and Allison are my final 3 – donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care who wins but those are my top 3 picks. After this week, my choices became clear to me. I too am guilty of not voting as many of you, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m going to start to try to help Allison stay longer.

This is me too. Adam is entertaining. His voice is just so high, and if your not looking at him, he sounds like a woman.

Kris, he’s cute, but kind of bland to me. He does sing good. But there is nothing special about the tone of his voice.

Allison, great rock voice, but not polished enough. I agree with some others, she should of waited a year or two to go on Idol.

I haven’t bought anyone off of Itunes this year. I think I am just watching out of habit this year.

I don’t really get the whole “Adam will be the male Lady GaGa!!!1!” thing, and as a fan, I don’t want that for him. His voice is too good to get swallowed up and lost in that kind of electropop. I don’t like his pre-Idol original music very much, tbh (“Pop Goes The Camera” is okay I guess). I actually could see him putting out an album similar to Kelly Clarkson’s All I Ever Wanted, pop/rock songs with some electronic influences here and there. I wish Kelly hadn’t recorded “Whyyawannabringmedown” cause I can totally hear him singing it! Heh.

I’d love for the finale to come down to the roomies, Adam vs. Kris! :D

I agree on pretty much everything you say. Adam and Danny are the ones to beat still, thanks to endless pimping. Even if they mumbled the ABC’s, they would still be safe.

Kris is definitely the dark horse at this point. If he continues to rise and the others fall, he may sneak into the finale.

Lil does have the least to worry about in the short term, but she has to be giving a thank you card to the producers for cutting Leneshe Young in Hollywood week, since IMO she would have been her prime competition. I think she will go out in 4th.

Allison is definitely the best female singer left, but she can’t seem to get casual viewers (or teenyboppers, amazingly!) behind her despite the fact she is the youngest left by far and doesn’t have any real competition in her type. While I think she does have some left in her and Miley could help gain teenybopper votes, getting past 5th will be a struggle.

Scott could be in trouble this week. He is definitely in need of improvement to get very much farther. He could go home this week, but I think he probably has enough fans to eke out one or two more weeks before vote-splitting with Danny becomes a huge issue.

Anoop and Matt are in real danger, since they can’t seem to find a big fanbase beyond hardcore fans and are stuck splitting votes with Adam and Danny. Unless they have standout performances and others tank, they will almost certainly be gone in the next three weeks, and one of them will likely be gone next week.

Well for me Matt is the perfect hot eye candy. :kiss_tb:

I can’t help but laugh at the idea of putting Adam first or second in the line up. Their ratings would go sooooo down from that point on.l

Who is actually buying their faves songs and vids on line?

I bought all of Anoop’s performance videos & studio versions on iTunes. I am so excited to hear him on the radio, his voice is PHENOMENAL!!!

Unless they have standout performances and others tank

Dark Horse Theory FTW!!!!!

Am I the only one that knew Kris before he made it to the top 36? LOL. To be completley honest, I fell in love with his audition, even though it was only six seconds. When he sang in “White Chocolate” everyone was gushing about how amazing Matt was. My eyes were on Kris. I found it odd no one was talking about how smooth his vocals were, how adorable he was, and how cute his dance moves were. Obviously, I didn’t excpect anyone to completley notice him, because he was in the background. But yeah… I had a feeling he’d make it.

Kris has the whole “cute guy” vote, he IS part of a church group, so he has the… “religious” vote.. which is most likley split with Danny Gokey. Oh, and he deffinitly has the “teenage girl vote”, and maybe even the “grandma” vote.

I reeally don’t understand why people aren’t connecting with Allison. She has those raw, natural vocals, and she was the ONLY reason I knew the top 9 were singing live on elimination night. I wanted to murder Simon when he said she had no personality. I personally think she’s adorable, and funny. It sucks that most people don’t see that, because they’re too distracted by her red hairdo. Ugh. Unfortunatley, I don’t think she’s getting the “grandma” vote or the “religous vote.” I genuinley hope she makes the top 3, or if not, the top 2. My pick for the finale would deffinitley be Adam and Allison, but I don’t think the producers would want two rockers in the finale. 0_0

This is turning out to be an interesting season after all. There does seem to be more drama this year than last year, so I guess well played AI Producers!

Let me see how I rank them.

8) Scott – sweet guy who has some talent, but should not win AI. Too AC.

7-5) No partiicular order. I have a tough time ranking these three as it all depends on how they perform in the coming weeks.

Anoop- can sing, but not sure if he has it in him to be a performer. Would do well as a studio artist.

Lil Rounds – so far, hasn’t had a moment and has been somewhat forgetable.

Matt- If he could shake the nevers, he could move higher.

4) Allison – I hope she makes it this high. Could deserve to go higher if she shows us something different, but lacks a strong fan base.

3) Kris – He may plateau. Good vocals, nice arrangement, but we need to some dancing and playing to the crowd a bit more.

1-2)

Danny – Has the backstory and a whole lot of fans. So he could win it but I don’t want him to because he isn’t dymanic enough. I can’t imagine him getting much of a following pass his hardcore AI fans.

Adam – like everyone says, this is Adam’s to lose. He needs to find that right balance of reaching his long term potential fans, (ROF was artistry to many people and got him cred) and going too far over. PTFM was on the edge. He pulled it back just in time. The end of PTFM rocked.

It would be just as accurate to say Adam & Danny have to split votes with Anoop & Matt! Actually we don’t have the real hard data to know what’s really going on. Maybe Anoop has the biggest hardcore fanbase ever!!! Dark Horse Theory FTW!!!

First of all, does Jason Mraz really have a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“starà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  personality the way Simon would define it? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think so. He is basically a laid back, talented, familiar sort of guy who wears a hat.

I think this is a bit off base. Mraz is a funny, quirky guy (and another word nerd) and he often works that aspect of his stage persona into his performances, videos, and lyrics. He’s got the whole intelligent adorkable geek thing going, which really is a type of X factor, or star personality. His concerts are hella entertaining, and he’s gotten a rep for putting on a great live show. Though their acoustic inclinations might be similar, I really don’t think Mraz is the go to comparison for Kris Allen, who as of yet really has not displayed anything approaching quirky or funny or geek-cool.

Kris looks really great on camera, his musicality is helping him stand out, his voice is consistently pleasant, and he hasn’t made any huge missteps yet, which is why his stock is rising. He also tries to change things up by shifting from the guitar to the stool sans instruments to the piano, which keeps it a little more interesting. But I still think the star power argument is valid. I just can’t imagine him carrying a solo concert tour a la Mraz ….yet. Showing more personality, ie bringing more charisma/stage presence to his performances is really the one big thing he needs to work on now if he’s going to win.

I think all of the major contenders, though, have one big thing to overcome to win the season…. For example, as I see it, Adam has the star power, but he has to continue to prove he can do restrained, and do it well, when the song calls for it, lest he be permanently branded too OTT. And yet he has to be careful not to tone himself down too much to the point where he looks like he sold out to the Idol machine. Danny right now seems to be a love him or hate him kind of proposition, and so he has to overcome the annoying douche vibe and kind of convince enough of the haters that he was misunderstood, otherwise he might make it to the finale but lose the title because of the “anyone but Gokey” vote. I still think TPTB like Matt, but wish he was living up to expectations. If Matt can find a way to tamp down the air of desperation and stop giving the impression that he’s trying too hard during his live performances, he could win more people over and might get back in TPTB’s good graces to boot. Allison has to show a little versatility and take some risks with her song choices because she’s been consistent but not really surprising anyone from week to week, and I think that’s why she hasn’t built a big loyal fanbase yet. Lil, coversely, needs to show some sort of consistency because she seems to have a fanbase but is starting to own the overrated/overpimped tag more than any of the other early frontrunners. Poor Anoop is outrunning the bus at this point. If he is going to avoid the bus headed his way, he has to find a way to demonstrate once and for all that he’s not a wannabe or a gimmick and really can sing and perform, kinda like Jason pulling a uke out of his butt and delivering a showstopper with OTR, thereby saving himself from being unfairly branded the “it was all downhill from Hallelujah and he’s still here because he’s cute” guy.

Scott….well, he’s inoffensive fodder and his average vocal ability and AC musical inclinations mean he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning. I think the producers miraculously rethought trying to villainize the sweet funny blind guy, thank god, because it was painful to watch Simon eviscerate him two weeks ago, and that’s why they went easy on him this week. (Either that, or Scotty Hardcore gave them a smackdown and a warning.) I have a feeling they know his fanbase won’t be big enough to topple any of the favorites, so they might, might just let him run his course naturally, which means he’s out somewhere in between now and top five.

All that said, I really am not hugely invested in anyone winning, though I do hope Adam sticks around to entertain me. I think an Adam/Kris finale would probably be the most interesting musically and performance wise, while an Adam/Danny finale would be kinda fun in an evil break out the popcorn kind of way. You know the whole odd couple/saint vs. sinner thing would be cheesily exploited and I’m ashamed to admit there’s a morbid part of me who would be okay with that because it would bring the lolz. *hangs head*

Kristin, thanks so much for this…

Or maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just me imagining that on Final 7 night, the split the contestants into two groups and then, when Danny comes to the middle of the stage fully convinced that he will à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“get to pick a groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  because à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“he is the top vote getterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , Ryan gets his water-cooler moment and cruely boots him. Then, Danny will think he will be saved and Simon will further twist the knife. Cue evil laughter. BWAHAHA.

It just made me SOOOOOOOOOO happy :)

Lurksalot, I’m with you…I’m hoping Adam goes first this week so I can turn the set off and get something accomplished with my Tuesday night for a change! And frankly, if he goes home before the end, I’ll be moving on. No point in watching.

I truly, truly do not get the judges’ pimpage of Lil. Lots of potential there, but she needs some major voice coaching, as she’s flat or sharp most of the time.

My only explanation for the Danny pimpage last week (again, a TON of flat notes there) is the you-grandfather-died sympathy thing. Otherwise, I remain utterly flummoxed by the weird praise.

I love little Allison, she’s my second favorite, just wish I thought she had more of a chance. But weirder things have happened…

Who is actually buying their faves songs and vids on line?

I’ve bought all of Kris’s songs except Man in the Mirror and the video for Ain’t No Sunshine.
It’s been a weird season. This is the first season that I started out voting for one contestant (Anoop in the semis) and switched to another without the first contestant being voted off (Kris).

Hopefully, that’ll be the actual top 5, MJ but sadly, I don’t think a top without Danny is possible at this point. He’s built such a big fanbase this season with all the pimping and truthfully, I can’t see a top 5 without Lil either. Girlfriend doesn’t have the best voice, its too generic and yet the judges don’t slam her as much as they slam Anoop or Matt. The only performance of hers I really liked was Be Without You and last week, she seriously did not do well.

And I agree, Anoop and Matt aren’t picking up many new fans the past week. Granted, Anoop had two good/great performances prior to Caught Up (which, IMO, wasn’t as bad as Kara and Simon thought it was, Lil’s was much worse) but I think people listen to the judges and yes, he has a core group of fans behind him but that’ll only get him so far. He needs to attract the casual voters who vote week to week based on performance. I hope against all hope he cracks the top five. He seriously needs to show everybody what he can do and bring it. And can’t forget he makes questionable song choices. he needs to think things through. I watched the Clef Hangers vid of Because of You by Ne-Yo on youtube and I wish he would have sang this instead. Caught Up wasn’t so bad but this would have been better suited for him. He needs to stay far, far away from uptempo songs. I’m a big fan but even I have to admit, he might not be in it for long because the judges are throwing him under the bus, Castro style plus the fact that he’s losing fans because of his inconsistency. I wonder what happened sometimes because his audition and hollywood week was good, Always on my Mind was one of his best so far. He needs his moment, a huge defining moment to turn the tables aound. Maybe next week Anoop’s going to get that chance, fingers crossed. I’m not giving up on Anoop yet.

Matt, I don’t know. He’s so much more the blues guy and he got slammed hard last week for doing The Fray, it wasn’t that bad and his studio recording was amazing. is it becasue he doesn’t want to stay in the judges’ prescribed box/label? Need to get rid of the nerves and also (like Anoop) bring it.

I am ready to say bye bye to Scott and Lil. Scott is boring to me and yes, he had his best performance last week but I just tune him out when he sings. Lil didn’t live up to the hype. I’m still waiting to see why TPTB put her in the holy trinagle of the pimped.

Adam’s gonna sail right through. I’m not a big fan (yet) but even I can see that he has talent and arranging abilities (since apparently, AI is now not only a singing competiotn but an arranging one as well) and Tracks of My Tears was pure genius. Can’t fight the power.

Kris is the build up this season. He constantly surprises me each week and I can see him in the competition for at least the top 4.

Allison is another one I’m terrified for. She is super talented and yet, almost all the time she’s at the bottom of DI (which has been freakishly accurate the past weeks). I’m scratching my head and wondering why she can’t pull a decent fanbase when she’s a better singer than Lil or Scott.

Scott needs to go next week followed by Lil (will she be saved?) then Danny (this isn’t going to happen, is it?) then Anoop, Matt, Kris, Adam and Allison in no particular order because I’d be happy with any of the 5 winning.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t help but laugh at the idea of putting Adam first or second in the line up. Their ratings would go sooooo down from that point on.

Ratings or not if they NEVER put Adam in the first part of the show and continue shoving him down peoples throats don’t be shocked if he starts getting hit with some serious backlash. Is there any contestant, ever, who’s NEVER gone first or second? People like Carrie and Taylor, and DC at some point were said to be leading the votes every week and I’m pretty sure they all went first or second.

Who is actually buying their faves songs and vids on line?

I’ve bought all of Kris’ videos and songs, all of Allison’s songs and a couple of Matt’s.

Is there any contestant, ever, whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s NEVER gone first or second?

Well, contestants that get booted early often don’t go first or second. LOL. But that’s not your question.

People like Carrie and Taylor, and DC at some point were said to be leading the votes every week and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure they all went first or second.

As of final 9:

Carrie: SF24-4, SF20-9, SF16-3, F12-11, F11-2, F10-8, F9-3
Second once (and 3rd twice, 4th once)
First time she went 1st-Top 6

Taylor: SF24-12, SF20-1, SF16-6, F12-10, F11-6, F10-4, F9-1
First twice
First time he went 1st-Top 20 (in the finals, Top 9)

Cookie: SF24-3, SF20-9, SF16-6, F12-6, F11-6, F10-10, F9-2
Second once (3rd once, 6th 3 times – ended up going 6th 5 times)
First time he went 1st – Top 4

Archie: SF24-6, SF20-10, SF16-2, F12-12, F11-3, F10-8, F9-6
Second once (3rd once)
First time he went 1st-Top 7

Adam: SF-12, F13-11, F11-6, F10-8, F9-8
Earliest performance slot=5

Ratings or not if they NEVER put Adam in the first part of the show and continue shoving him down peoples throats donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be shocked if he starts getting hit with some serious backlash. Is there any contestant, ever, whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s NEVER gone first or second? People like Carrie and Taylor, and DC at some point were said to be leading the votes every week and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure they all went first or second.

DC never went first and only once second between top 12 and top 6 (after that you have 2 performances so it’s not exactly the same problem).
Meanwhile Archuleta went one time first and 0 time second.
Jordin went 2 times in second and 0 times in first.
Daughtry went once first and 0 times in second.

So yes, I believe one of these nights Adam will go either first or second (maybee even this week) but the producers always give preferential treatment to their favorite contestants.

ETA: I see that Kristen was faster than me:)

Just wanted to chime in here…..

I have been asking people at work, at dentist, and friends who they like (these are “normal people” in that they don’t follow the Idols online or buy their music but they do watch and some vote)….

Danny and/or Adam mentioned by all….and only them

I think most of America who watches American Idol wants to be entertained. They don’t care about genre, pimping, sellability etc – they notice the people with talent who also are the best entertainers and enjoy seeing them each week. When the show is over – they forget all about them.

eta: I have bought Adam’s iTunes almost every week.

I didn’t read this whole thread but I completely agree with MJ’s assessment. I’ll even go one further and say that of the likely top 2, this is Adam’s to lose.

I find it amusing through all the comments finding people who want to know why people don’t just vote for the “best” voice. Why would you vote for someone who doesn’t have a chance of a top 40 hit. I don’t vote based on that. I don’t really care what happens to these guys’ careers after Idol. That’s under their control, not mine.

I vote for who I want to continue to see on my tv, week after week. This is an entertainment show and I want to be entertained. My favorites have run the gamut, and only this year would someone think I pick my favs based on voice (go Adam!). I’ve only voted since season 5. I voted for Taylor that year and to date, I’ve still voted for him more than any other contestant. Season 6 I voted for Blake, Season 7 – Jason, this season I did throw Sarver and Kris some votes but that’s because my fav (Adam) hasn’t needed my votes yet.

The only thing similar between all my favorites is that FOR ME, they were the most entertaining contestant of their season.

ETA: LOL Dante just posted exactly what I was saying. And I agree about Adam having to go last on tour.

This is crazy – but I have been thinking about the Idol tour – I just can’t imagine Adam not going last. I have no idea if he will win, but I just can’t see there not being a letdown after his performance – he is so far above everyone else in his entertainment ability. He is the STAR.

He is still the only one I would pay to go see ( esp in this economy) even though I really like Allison, Kris, Anoop and Danny (runs away).

eta: I just don’t think the average person watching Idol notices the pimping…sad but true. And they believe what the judges say too.

eta: lol jersey – I first voted Season 5 for Taylor(alot), then Blake a little, then DC and Jason (both alot), now Adam – we have similiar tastes for sure.

I just watched EWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idoltry for this week and even they are on the Danny and Kris finale team. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see anything other than this.

I think Karger’s been begging Slezak for weeks to let him come on and make a pitch for Danny. Kind of like when, after the President’s State of the Union address, they let some guy from the opposing party speak for 10 minutes to give the illusion of fairness. You could tell by the look on Slezak’s face, he wasn’t buying any of it. And the best part was, after Karger finished, the TV in the background flashed the subliminal message: “Memo to Karger, vote for the rocker chick and put the go in Gokey.”

No, in my opinion, Slezak is definitely not on board with Danny in the final. He is rooting for Kris, Allison and Adam, in that order. He knows Allison doesn’t have the fanbase to carry her to the final two, so I think he’d be happy with an Adam/Kris finale.

Great minds, dante! :cool1_tb:

I was listening to my growing Adam playlist and I thought I would post this for anyone who hasn’t heard it – the softer side of Adam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi8_Xnq7c1s&feature=related

I think this guy has SO much vocal talent he could be a BIG star. Course I have been wrong before….. but I absolutely love his voice.

That was a nice vid, dante. But yikes! at the comments!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll keep watching the show as long as Anoop keeps performing!!!! Anoop is THE ONE I can’t wait to see every week.
I’m an ANOOP FAN for life, he is destined for greatness.

Jersey…yes, the comments. Yikes. Youtube doesn’t do a very good job of moderating them for hatefulness, and I don’t see any way to report the nastier ones, so…

MJ’s board here is moderated really well, IMHO, and that’s a hard thing to do. Seems like boards either run the gamut from Anything goes (a la youtube) to We’ll Ban You for Breathing (cough…Television without Pity…cough).

but it’s a great video! Thanks dante.

I think most of America who watches American Idol wants to be entertained. They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care about genre, pimping, sellability etc – they notice the people with talent who also are the best entertainers and enjoy seeing them each week. When the show is over – they forget all about them.

And also, I don’t think America is keeping spreadsheets detailing performance order, either. Ask the typical voter who went first last week and you’ll get a blank stare- they don’t care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zHjeqQ05o

This youtube has more favorible comments – lol

I have converted alot of his songs into mp3′s that I listen to – so I don’t read the comments.

did the same with Taylor, Jason, and Cookie.

I get kind of obsessed – lol.

And also, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think America is keeping spreadsheets detailing performance order, either. Ask the typical voter who went first last week and youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get a blank stare- they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care.

Thank goodness for mj’s – where I can feel “normal”

In reading through the comments, it seems to me that most people are trying to figure out who will go when, based on talent. I think it is more likely to be based on where the votes go when a contestant is voted out (not in).

For example, where will Megan’s votes go this week? I doubt if many will go to Adam. Kris could be the big winner of Megan’s votes.

Then if Matt or Anoop goes, I can’t see Adam picking up their votes, but I can see Kris picking some of them up. I’m not a Kris fan, but he is the one contestant that can pick up votes no matter who is voted out.

Adam has the problem that he is polarizing. I can’t see the votes for any contestant voted off going to Adam the next week.

It would be interesting to see someone work out a scenario that is based on where votes will move as each contestant is voted off. In the past, I think that a few times, the person that won, won because most of the 3rd place contestant’s votes went to them in the final. Taylor Hicks, Jordan Sparks, Ruben Studdard for example.

Adam and Danny are the ones to beat still, thanks to endless pimping.

That might be the case for Danny, but it is certainly not for Adam, imo. Adam has thrown down and given some incredible performances in this top 13 and has EARNED his right to be called a frontrunner. Danny, not so much.

What is confusing to me is this – if casual viewers are the ones that is deciding the bottom 3 every week and dial idol only tracks people that have dial idol software installed, are we to believe that this so called casual viewer bloc all have dial idol installed so DI can track their voting pattern? does not look very casual to me…I am always surprised how DI voting pattern is always in line with TPTB say on the show, and yet to say it is really the casual viewers that are deciding who should be in the bottom 3…makes no sense to me, unless dialidol software is installed mostly on the computers of TPTB and whoever is voting using this dials in in accordance with what was said on the show…

No, in my opinion, Slezak is definitely not on board with Danny in the final. He is rooting for Kris, Allison and Adam, in that order.

I agree that Slezak is not rooting for Danny in the final. But, he has made it pretty obvious (at least to me) over the course of the season so far that his favorite is Allison, but that he also enjoys Kris and Adam.

Very interesting that Cook, Carrie and Archie didn’t go first until at least 7 (Cook – 4th week). Adam did go first half once and they’ve kept him towards the middle, mostly in second half. They’ve been really generous to Matt, but poor Kris has had to work for it. Good for him that’s he’d done what he’s dont. I think he’ll be now getting the “middle range” for a few weeks now.

I actually don’t think Adam is that polarizing. He’s also many people’s 2, 3 and 4th choices. He was polarizing at first, but people have had time to get to know him a little more. He’s not some scary rocker dude. He’s actually adorable, humble, polite, sweet and charming. As he even said, he’s the nice rebel. More and more people are letting him just be Adam and appreciate his talent. There’s also a lot of people who love Adam and haven’t even begun to vote – they don’t think he needs it. Time has worked in his favor. As I think it will Allison. Time to get to know her. As people get over their “polarizing personality issues”, then as their favorite goes, I think they’ll migrate to the most talented.

I think for the most part, voted off contestants fans will either not vote or it will be split pretty equally. What they do that will will matter. Exceptions would be the large conservative, middle of the country vote that will get behind Kris and Danny. More likely Kris which is why I say this contest is his to lose. But say for Megan. The few I’ve talked with are now saying they are going to vote for Allison, Adam, Matt and Kris – and it’s split pretty equally.

It would be interesting to see someone work out a scenario that is based on where votes will move as each contestant is voted off. In the past, I think that a few times, the person that won, won because most of the 3rd place contestantà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s votes went to them in the final. Taylor Hicks, Jordan Sparks, Ruben Studdard for example.

I understand where you’re coming from, but I disagree.
Kris is hyped out right now because he is a fresh face and everyone likes an underdog, DC at first had that as well, the thing is that you need to be able to deliver consistently good performances to maintain your status.
Kris is going to go under the same scrutiny than Adam and Danny now, everyone is going to wait for his performance and evaluate wheter or not he deserves his status.

Now it depends wheter you believe Kris is a serious contestant for the victory or not, I tend to think that his voice is not strong enough to navigate him through the numerous traps along the way. Kind of like Brooke and Jason last year. After Hallelujah there were a lot of people (more than Kris now) believing Jason would be battling Archuleta for the title same for Brooke after Let It Be.

I actually like Kris and I hope he will deliver good performances because he will get carried by the cute and nice guy vote it seems.

I don’t know that I even buy that all that many votes “move” to someone else when a favorite is voted off.

Dedicated voters are…. dedicated. If their fav gets dumped they are just as likely to not even bother voting IMO as they are to somehow switch allegiances. Or they vote to spoil TPTB plans, or join the Worsters to shake things up. In other words they may vote for fun but not in actual true powevoting support.

And if the switch thing does happen, then I think this is where they go:

I actually donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam is that polarizing. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also many peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 2, 3 and 4th choices. He was polarizing at first, but people have had time to get to know him a little more. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not some scary rocker dude. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s actually adorable, humble, polite, sweet and charming. As he even said, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the nice rebel. More and more people are letting him just be Adam and appreciate his talent.

Kris is getting a good word now, because IMO, there is simply no eye candy on the show at all. Danny? Adam would be, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Matt, Anoop, not sexy at all.

Uh, that is your OPNION. I think Anoop is very sexy, and all the other guys are nasty ugly.

Anoop and Matt are in real danger, since they canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to find a big fanbase beyond hardcore fans and are stuck splitting votes with Adam and Danny. Unless they have standout performances and others tank, they will almost certainly be gone in the next three weeks, and one of them will likely be gone next week.

Anoop isnt splitting votes with anyone….

It would be just as accurate to say Adam & Danny have to split votes with Anoop & Matt! Actually we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the real hard data to know whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really going on. Maybe Anoop has the biggest hardcore fanbase ever!!! Dark Horse Theory FTW!!!

Exactly!

****One of Anoop’s friends hinted that Caught Up wasn’t his preferred song choice (saying something about his first choices being a no-go). I thought that was interesting, because if he’d done Sexy Love or Because of You he’d have done so much better. Makes me wonder if his talk back to the judges had something to do with frustration over that as well as the frat boy dig? Anyway, I don’t know what the real story is. Honestly, I don’t think he sees himself as an Usher type artist.

an Adam/Danny finale would be kinda fun in an evil break out the popcorn kind of way. You know the whole odd couple/saint vs. sinner thing would be cheesily exploited and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m ashamed to admit thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a morbid part of me who would be okay with that because it would bring the lolz. *hangs head*

LOL! You’re not alone. I’m really grasping for anything to make this season watchable, and if/when my eyecandy Kris goes, then I’ll go to the cheese factor (and probably skip the next season. that’s what S3 did to me, ick.)

are we to believe that this so called casual viewer bloc all have dial idol installed so DI can track their voting pattern?

Dialidol doesn’t work by counting the votes it tallies directly. It counts the busy signals it hits. so if the Dialidol voters who set their computer to vote for Megan never hit a busy signal the entire 2 hours, that means it was easy to get through on her line = no one else (non-dialidol) was voting for her, and her DI score will be low. Meanwhile the Danny DI voters hit busy signals all the time, so that means lots of other normal people were voting for him tying up the lines. So he gets a high DI score.

if casual viewers are the ones that is deciding the bottom 3 every week and dial idol only tracks people that have dial idol software installed, are we to believe that this so called casual viewer bloc all have dial idol installed so DI can track their voting pattern?

zs, the Dial Idol score is mostly calculated based on the busy signal percentages that the people with the DI software get, so it does measure to some extent what the casual viewers are doing. The idea is, if five million casual viewers are voting for Adam and only one million casual viewers are voting for Scott, the people using Dial Idol will get 5x as many busy signals for Adam as for Scott.

That is an oversimplification and there are all sorts of flaws in the Dial Idol model (in particular, if the producers open more phone lines for one contestant than another it becomes useless, although you kind of hope they aren’t doing that) but it is the basic idea.

On the top 5, personally I agree with MJ’s assessment, except I think Scott is going to fade quicker, from the same effect as Sarver — I think once people get a really clear message that this contestant just isn’t going to win and is out of their league, I think they stop voting even if they haven’t stopped *liking* them best.

Dedicated voters areà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. dedicated. If their fav gets dumped they are just as likely to not even bother voting IMO as they are to somehow switch allegiances. Or they vote to spoil TPTB plans, or join the Worsters to shake things up. In other words they may vote for fun but not in actual true powevoting support.

I agree with you here. My votes are dedicated to Anoop and they won’t go to anyone else unless I get really angry at the judges/producers/pimping. I definitely will not powervote for anyone else.

One of Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s friends hinted that Caught Up wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his preferred song choice (saying something about his first choices being a no-go). I thought that was interesting, because if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d done Sexy Love or Because of You heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have done so much better. Makes me wonder if his talk back to the judges had something to do with frustration over that as well as the frat boy dig? Anyway, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what the real story is. Honestly, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he sees himself as an Usher type artist.

That’s very interesting and probably valid. I tend to think if last week’s theme was as wide-open as Ryan claimed, then Anoop would NOT have chosen Usher (or at least not that particular song.) I would have bet money on him choosing a Ne-Yo song. I’m sure he doesn’t see himself as a singer-dancer entertainer…he probably has more self-awareness than that. I’m willing to bet that wasn’t his first choice. Unfortunately, that happens too much on Idol. I’ve heard Adam had to change songs a couple of times, too. I’m still holding out hope that Anoop gets his choice this week, isn’t switched around to go first and knocks it out of the park.

****One of Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s friends hinted that Caught Up wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his preferred song choice (saying something about his first choices being a no-go). I thought that was interesting, because if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d done Sexy Love or Because of You heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have done so much better.

I LOVE ANOOP’s “Sexy Love” & “Because of You”, so I would love to see him do it on the show. But, “Caught Up” got a REALLY high number of views (19,310 views) on You Tube in just a few days before it became unavailable due to You Tube having to remove it due to the copyright issue. Anoop might gain new voters that weren’t even watching AI before he sang “Caught Up”.

I’ll just toss this out. I talked to a friend today, a very casual viewer of AI. She’s never even thought of voting. (She does not share my Taylor love; she likes Daughtry and Cook.) This year she loves Adam because he’s a retro rocker. He reminds her of listening to Led Zeppelin back in the day. Interesting…. She also loves Danny and doesn’t see why people are so upset with him because AI pimped his back story. She had no problem with the kids mimicking one another last week and didn’t think Danny was being mean-spirited at all. As for all the rest, she isn’t excited about them at all, but did mention Kris’s good job on ANS.

These are just the thoughts of one of the millions of whom I’d call “casual fans.” Do you think she is representative of the majority?

Adam has the problem that he is polarizing. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the votes for any contestant voted off going to Adam the next week.

Exactly! If you like that type of singer, fine. American Idol voters tend to go with the up and coming singer. No question Adam has stage presence. But if you are not voting for him now, you’re not likely to suddenly fall in love with Adam.

Anoop might gain new voters that werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even watching AI before he sang à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

I hope so, girl!!! Do you post on TWOP?

Dedicated voters areà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. dedicated. If their fav gets dumped they are just as likely to not even bother voting IMO as they are to somehow switch allegiances. Or they vote to spoil TPTB plans, or join the Worsters to shake things up. In other words they may vote for fun but not in actual true powevoting support.

Dedicated voters are only a piece of the puzzle. I mean, I’m a dedicated voter, and my favorite is Adam, but if he goes, my votes are going to Kris.

I’m of the belief that the majority of voting on this show is done not by those who vote 1000 times a night for their favorite, but by the casual viewers/voters who vote much, much less (anywhere from 10-50 times for a contestant). In my experience with talking to some of my friends and family who are those casual viewers/voters, a lot of times they will vote for someone else after their favorite goes home, if there is someone still there that they like. Or, they’ll vote if a contestant gives a showstopper type performance. It’s not an “end-all-be-all” type scenario for every voter. Sure, the powervoters may stop voting when their favorite goes home, but I think those people make less of a difference as the season goes on.

I also think that most seasons, there are only a few really huge fanbases. And just because a fanbase is big doesn’t mean it’s filled with powervoters, either. I actually HATE powervoting, but I will do it if I have to.

ETA:

These are just the thoughts of one of the millions of whom Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d call à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“casual fans.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Do you think she is representative of the majority?

Yes, I do. I think that’s a great example.

But if you are not voting for him now, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not likely to suddenly fall in love with Adam.

There’s a big difference between “not voting for him now” and “suddenly falling in love” with him.

People may not be voting for him because he is their 2nd or 3rd favorite (right now I’m seeing and hearing about a lot of Adam/Kris/Allison fans). If Kris and Allison were to go, those people would more likely (even though it’s not a guarantee) vote for Adam, than say, Scott or Lil.

Every contestant has the opportunity to pick up votes as other contestants are eliminated. I don’t know who is the MOST likely to do so right now, but while Adam is a love him or hate him contestant, I find it really hard to believe that he’s gotten all the votes he could get and that NO one else will ever vote for him if they aren’t already.

I think the judges will say something along the lines of this “You are a nice guy, but this compeition isnt for you” – to Scott this week

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s very interesting and probably valid. I tend to think if last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s theme was as wide-open as Ryan claimed, then Anoop would NOT have chosen Usher (or at least not that particular song.) I would have bet money on him choosing a Ne-Yo song. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see himself as a singer-dancer entertainerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦he probably has more self-awareness than that. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m willing to bet that wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his first choice. Unfortunately, that happens too much on Idol. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve heard Adam had to change songs a couple of times, too. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m still holding out hope that Anoop gets his choice this week, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t switched around to go first and knocks it out of the park.

What’s weird is that Chris – Anoops good buddy – talked about both “Beat It” and “Caught Up” – not being the songs he wanted to sing.
(and whats even weirder….the judges hating those 2 performances…hmmm….)

I tend to think if last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s theme was as wide-open as Ryan claimed, then Anoop would NOT have chosen Usher (or at least not that particular song.) I would have bet money on him choosing a Ne-Yo song. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see himself as a singer-dancer entertainerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦he probably has more self-awareness than that.

And Ne-Yo’s not a singer-dancer-entertainer… how, again?

I know that I just went to a Ne-Yo concert in February, and people came away talking about how smooth his dancing was as much as how great he sounded…

People may not be voting for him because he is their 2nd or 3rd favorite (right now Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m seeing and hearing about a lot of Adam/Kris/Allison fans). If Kris and Allison were to go, those people would more likely (even though ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a guarantee) vote for Adam, than say, Scott or Lil.

Yes. I’ve been concentrating my votes on Allison, but when she leaves I will probably vote Adam or Kris, depending on which one I think needs them the most.

Honestly, I’ve been scratching my heads on the Danny pimping because while he may make compelling television for some (not me), I can’t see his style being radio friendly. So far, all he’s done is old school R&B and country tunes. If they try to make him into a country star, I’ll predict he goes the way of Phil. If they try to make him an R&B star, he’ll make Taylor Hicks looks like a genius. His best chance is the Christian market, and those numbers are never going to be high enough for TPTB. I expect the de-pimping to start this week. I hope I’m right.

ETA: I confess I haven’t read this whole thread, so please excuse me if I’m repeating something already said.

And Ne-Yoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a singer-dancer-entertainerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ how, again?

I know that I just went to a Ne-Yo concert in February, and people came away talking about how smooth his dancing was as much as how great he soundedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I meant in terms of the actual song choice. I should have been more clear. I meant a song like Sexy Love or Because of You or Mad….smooth R&B songs that don’t require dancing. I see him going in that direction. I never meant that Ne-Yo isn’t also a smooth dancer.

The only thing that will be Megan’s legacy on AI is her Caw Caw and flying to her seat like a bird but not her singing. She did it to herself.

I see Kris Allen winning American Idol Season 8. Instead of coasting (Danny Gokey), Kris has been giving stellar performances each week. He improves all around and yes, he’s able to change up a song to make it current. What’s disappointing for me is that I found myself already poised to annoint Danny Gokey the winner because he has good vocals skills plus his back story made me a fan, but I found myslef switching once Danny started to lose that magic he brought earlier in the rounds. Instead of being smooth and almost flawless, he’s began to “scream” some of his songs once he gets to his upper register, to quote some of the judges words…therefore that type of singing annoys me.

I do see a Kris & Adam show down, it’s a great contrast and would be much more entertaing to watch rather than a Danny and Adam showdown…

As for the women, Allison is amongst the best..Lil has simply just lost her edge, like Danny, she was my tops amongst the gals but when it really counts, she’s lost that magic….plus I wish she held up well when it comes to the comments given to her by the judges..the weeping’s got to stop…..

Lastly, can’t the Idols stop talking back to the judges..yes manipulations by the producers and Ryan Seacrest is there, but the Idols don’t have to take the bait, just eat humble pie and just take it, I think that’s what I loved about Megan, she smiled, took it and just went with the flow, partly why I will miss her……

AnoopFan – I don’t know what TWOP is.

Don’t forget that Randy said Anoop’s vocals on “Caught Up” were REALLY, REALLY GOOD & Paula also emphasized “REALLY GOOD” vocals on Anoop’s “Caught Up” performance.

AnoopFan, aren’t you the one who was possibly going to have song hints or something? Any news on that?

I have always loved Led Zeppelin and I still do, yet I am not a fan of Adam Lambert’s singing.

That might be the case for Danny, but it is certainly not for Adam, imo. Adam has thrown down and given some incredible performances in this top 13 and has EARNED his right to be called a frontrunner. Danny, not so much.

I’m afraid I have to disagree with you there, Sarah. Adam has most certainly been pimped from early on and I don’t agree that all of his performances have been incredible. I especially think the last one was at least worthy of being criticised for the dated and corny aspect but not a peep. I actually think Danny has been very good most of the time also and has a lot of fans which does make him a valid frontrunner.

It doesn’t matter where Adam ends up in the tour for me because his presence is the biggest reason why I wouldn’t go. I can only imagine how painful his high notes would be in person. :shock_tb:

It doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter where Adam ends up in the tour for me because his presence is the biggest reason why I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go. I can only imagine how painful his high notes would be in person. :shock_tb:

Except that the audience reaction has been ten times better than any other contestant after Black or White and PTFMWB.
The people were on their feet even before the last note.

^^That’s the great thing about this show, the variable mileage! I’m with Sarah regarding Adam. He’s been pimped, but he’s been consistently good, and occasionally great. And, he’s the ONLY reason I WOULD consider buying tix for this tour. He definitely should be the one closing the show, but if it ends up being Danny, at least I can leave and miss all the traffic in the parking lot. I mean, what else would I do while Danny sang 5 songs?! Yikes, how unbearable would that be?! But, again, plenty of time to beat the rush… (I assume some would say exactly the same about an Adam close. LOL Mileage…)

Well, this year’s tour shall have plenty of bathroom breaks…

Anoop and Matt are in real danger…they will almost certainly be gone in the next three weeks, and one of them will likely be gone next week.

Save the Wildcards! Lol. :laugh_tb:

All I have to say is I pray that Anoop goes home this week. Nice guy sure but dude is giving me a headache.

Last year I couldn’t get on board with Carly, girl was screaming at me every week. I saw the Tour 4 times last year and Carly was amazing, she just rocked those arenas. Her big ole voice was incredible in those large venues.
Adam is my fave this year, and I want it to be all Adam all the time, but for those of you who think he is going to sound shrill or whatever the complaint is, I don’t think it will come across like that at all. Plus unlike Carly, Adam is actually in tune when he goes all out crazy.

I hope Allison starts connecting with the audience more. I don’t know what the problem is with this. Do people think she’s too young to be a serious rocker chick? I wonder if she’ll pick up Megan’s voters though needless to say they’re such different artists.

All I have to say is I pray that Anoop goes home this week. Nice guy sure but dude is giving me a headache.

I feel the same way about Scott.

It just dawned on me, the real reason that Scott will be in the Top 5. No one, and I mean no one, can stomach the thought of Scott singing for his life hoping for a save that will never come. Once he makes the Top 5, he can go without experiencing that excrutiatingly gutwrenching horror. :-(

And suddenly, I really want him to be in the Top 5…

I feel the same way about Scott.

I guess it goes without saying that I totally agree with you here PJ.

Hmm, and apparently, I have no need to see the tour this year as I can just as easily stay home and go to the bathroom for free :)

Honestly, I think Anoop is a talented guy. But, I do not believe that he or Matt have a prayer of winning this competition. They do not appear to be capturing as much of the viewing public as the guys ahead of them. At this point, it’s only a matter of time, and I suspect one of them will be a casualty this week.

Scott’s voice and well, everything about him, is just so not up to the level of an AI top 8-er, that I have no clue how he is not in the bottom three or gone by now (I mean, other than the obvious blind thing). But apparently, he is somehow going to outlast Anoop. I don’t think Matt is good at all, and he’s had a nice share of the pimping, but still can’t seem to connect. So, I won’t be surprised when he leaves either. (And no, I didn’t download any of his songs to see how fabulous his recorded voice is, because dude, if you can’t impress me on the show, I’m not paying a dollar to find out why I should like you).

Lil is a huge disappointment to me. I liked her early on, but she keeps picking songs that are just not for her, and not performing them well. It’s kind of sad, but I agree that she’ll outlast the more talented Allison.

I might have to relax my “no voting for minors rule” for her. Not that I vote enough to make a difference LOL.

I agree with whoever mentioned that all of their “offline” aquaintences who watch this show are all about Adam or Danny. Although I do have one online friend who is a diehard Kris fan. Every time I go to the salon, we always talk AI (I cannot explain why this subject always comes up there) and without question the room is split between Adam and Danny (Adam has the lead by one stylist).

It’s never easy to figure out what America will do, as I’ve noticed that online fanbases and myspace friends and whatnot tend to have little to do with where people end up. But, if I had to guess, I’d bet on an Adam/Danny finale too (although it pains me to imagine Danny there) and right now, the race is for 3rd place.

I’ve dowloaded everything available by Kris Allen. I get to be more and more of his fan as the season goes on. The studio version of To Make You Feel My Love could be a hit song on the country charts right this very minute. He has that awesome timber in his voice that appeals to those of us who have an appreciation for country music. It is an absolutely beautiful version of the song, sung from the heart, pure and sweet. I would buy a CD from him and go out to see him in concert. I really believe Kris could sneak in there in the finals if he keeps up the work of the past three weeks or so. He hasn’t really had a bad week although each week he gets stronger and more confident. I really do love his voice. The last two weeks the judges have taken notice, but Nashville week was really wonderful.

I see Kris Allen winning American Idol Season 8. Instead of coasting (Danny Gokey), Kris has been giving stellar performances each week. He improves all around and yes, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s able to change up a song to make it current

I dont see any of this.

AnoopFan, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you the one who was possibly going to have song hints or something? Any news on that?

Be patient :wub_tb:

It just dawned on me, the real reason that Scott will be in the Top 5. No one, and I mean no one, can stomach the thought of Scott singing for his life hoping for a save that will never come. Once he makes the Top 5, he can go without experiencing that excrutiatingly gutwrenching horror. :-(

Well, they can just give it to him easy. Tell him he is a great person and all that rubbish.

(And no, I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t download any of his songs to see how fabulous his recorded voice is, because dude, if you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t impress me on the show, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not paying a dollar to find out why I should like you).

So freaking glad I’m not the only one.

I. don’t. care. if the studio versions of his songs are good. I’m not downloading them if the live performances don’t give me reason to. Sorry.

Although I do have one online friend who is a diehard Kris fan.

This was supposed to say “offline friend” but I came back too late to edit :)

I really believe Kris could sneak in there in the finals if he keeps up the work of the past three weeks or so.

I do not think this is impossible. And, oh how I would love for Kris to replace Danny in my imaginary final.

I see Kris Allen winning American Idol Season 8. Instead of coasting (Danny Gokey), Kris has been giving stellar performances each week. He improves all around and yes, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s able to change up a song to make it current

I dont see any of this.

Although I think it’s a definite longshot for Kris to win, I do think he’s had some really good performances. And, most importantly, I think he’s had an upward arc. He’s actually become better as the weeks have gone on, while many of them have either stayed the same or worse have a few really crappy performances sprinkled in there.

For me, Adam started out at a performance level much higher than the rest. And boy did he creep me out during Hollywood week. When I was relentlessly making fun of him and his resemblence to Liza, if anyone had told me that I’d wind up liking, I would have laughed in their face. Adam won my respect the hard way, and he had a fairly large hill to climb. That probably colors my perspective on why I think he’s got a clear shot to the final.

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AnoopFan, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you the one who was possibly going to have song hints or something? Any news on that?

Be patient

I wonder what happened to Simon’s “a wildcard could win this”

I wonder what happened to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a wildcard could win thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Two words: Dark Horse

I think it still may be too soon for the dark horse to pull into the lead, because if it happens too soon it wouldn’t be a dark horse, now would it? :ponder_tb:

I wonder what happened to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a wildcard could win thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I’m thinking Simon may have changed his mind on this.

One listen to Adam and it was real clear he had a 1 in a million voice. After hearing it more, it is clear that is at least a one in 10 million voice. SpenserJ (waslitp) I’m glad Adam won you over. You are my heroine!

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lol, that’s perfect :kiss_tb:

Be patient

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Haha, I’ll try!

Lil is a huge disappointment to me

Me too. I think Slezak hit it on the head when he said “It’s not the song Lil, it’s you”. Way over pimped for her performnaces in my mind and I seriously want her to stop shouting at me……pretty please.

I think it still may be too soon for the dark horse to pull into the lead, because if it happens too soon it wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be a dark horse, now would it?

I’m also an Anoop fan, but if he’s the dark horse, seriously, after last weeks performance, he almost fell 8 jumps from home and is trailing the field by about 3 lengths!

I love the guy and I’m still rooting for him, but for him to get back into the race for a top 3 finish, he has to be outstanding for the next 3 weeks.

It’s not impossible, but at this moment I think he’s closer to being put out to pasture than being the dark horse……sorry, just keeping it realz

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also an Anoop fan, but if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the dark horse, seriously, after last weeks performance, he almost fell 8 jumps from home and is trailing the field by about 3 lengths!

He didnt even want to sing/perform that song last week…..that’s why it wasnt “good”

(And no, I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t download any of his songs to see how fabulous his recorded voice is, because dude, if you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t impress me on the show, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not paying a dollar to find out why I should like you).

So freaking glad Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not the only one.

I. donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. care. if the studio versions of his songs are good. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not downloading them if the live performances donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give me reason to. Sorry

Me three. If I’m missing NCIS and The Mentalist to watch AI, it’s for a reason. :-) And, you MUST show me the goods there before I even begin to think about looking or listening for you elsewhere.

A sprinkling of Matt’s performances have me interested in seeing what he can do ON THE SHOW in the coming weeks. Kris, to his credit, has won my support (in my Top 3) over time. Two weeks ago, but never before, he had me say, “hmmmm…that didn’t suck.” Last week, he had me say, “Hey kid, that was good, I enjoyed it.” Allison’s had me since I started watching the show, which was Top 13. Seems I have a soft spot for raspy female rockers. All the buzz about Adam caused me to check out his performances here at MJs, and the little fucker got me to watch the show this year which I had no intention of doing!

When someone impresses me, I respond in some way — from begrudgingly watching the show to looking them up on youtube to paying $$ for studio versions — but not before. :-)

He didnt even want to sing/perform that song last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why it wasnt à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“goodà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Neither did Danny want to sing his the week before, as we found out ad nauseum. Or Adam from other rumours and we know that Scott said he’s lost a lot of hat picks.

I hope it wasn’t his 1st choice, as this would give me more faith in his song choice capability. But seriously it shouldn’t have made his top 5.

This week he’s the only contestant for 1986, so hopefully he will get his 1st choice cleared and will kill it.

(And no, I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t download any of his songs to see how fabulous his recorded voice is, because dude, if you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t impress me on the show, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not paying a dollar to find out why I should like you).

So much Word.

Again, most of the casual but voting viewers DO NOT listen to the studio versions and vote accordingly. In fact, most of the people I know don’t even use iTunes (since I am old as dirt even though I am young at heart). They just want to be entertained and so far Adam and Danny are the most entertaining according to my nonscientific poll.

Adam FTW!!!!!!!! And like some others here, he has EARNED my respect. With killer vocals, good song choices, and respect for the judges. And I can’t wait to see what he does next.

He didnt even want to sing/perform that song last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why it wasnt à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“goodà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

AnoopFan, it’s clear you love him and he’s your guy (this year. :-)) And that’s fantastic! But, if he can bring it, he can and will bring it. If he’s good, he’ll sell even a song he doesn’t like. (Sort of like Cook did the Magic Rainbow that could… yaknow? I know yaknow, girlfriend…)

I’m waiting for what he will do this week, and I’m thinking he’ll give you a much better performance — hopefully one that his fans can use more effectively to lobby for his support. The last one, in my view, doesn’t give his fans much evidence to work with when crafting his defense. YMMV. :-)

Neither did Danny want to sing his the week before, as we found out ad nauseum. Or Adam from other rumours and we know that Scott said heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lost a lot of hat picks.

I hope it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his 1st choice, as this would give me more faith in his song choice capability. But seriously it shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have made his top 5.

This week heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the only contestant for 1986, so hopefully he will get his 1st choice cleared and will kill it.

1- Danny and Adam werent good on their songs those weeks.

2. It wasnt in his top 5.

3. He totally will! He’s going to have another “Always On My Mind” type performance :jittery_tb:

AnoopFan, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s clear you love him and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your guy (this year. :-)) And thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fantastic!

This year? DC and Anoop are my idols for life. Im done after this season :)

You know, honestly? I don’t give two shits if you don’t want to sing the song. You sing it and perform it anyway, and try to DO SOMETHING with it, instead of whining and bitching and acting like a baby. Not that anyone has done this this season. But I still don’t care. It’s called “the show must go on.”

If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll sell even a song he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like.

Yeah. That.

I mean seriously. If the contestants can’t sell a song they don’t like at this point, how the HELL are they gonna be able to sell a cheesy coronation song?

I’m over excuses.

Anoopfan I say that every year!

I dont know why TPTB werent nice to Anoop since the beginning. I think that they are just afraid – that if they pimp him (which he deserves) – he would be beating out Adam and Danny in votes. The only reason why he sang “Beat It” and “Caught Up” is because TPTB MADE him sing them. They dont want him outshining their TCO’s, so they treat him like shit.

Anoopfan I say that every year!

I’ve watched season 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 & this year – IM DONE. I will not get over the way they are fucking with Anoop, sorry

I mean seriously. If the contestants canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell a song they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like at this point, how the HELL are they gonna be able to sell a cheesy coronation song?

I can’t wait to hear Adam sing a song about puppies and rainbows!

(And no, I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t download any of his songs to see how fabulous his recorded voice is, because dude, if you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t impress me on the show, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not paying a dollar to find out why I should like you).

For reals! I’m voting for contestants that don’t need pro-tools to sound good. It’s not a slam but there’s a reason it’s a live singing competition.

AnoopFan, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s clear you love him and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your guy (this year. :-)) And thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fantastic! But, if he can bring it, he can and will bring it. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll sell even a song he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. (Sort of like Cook did the Magic Rainbow that couldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ yaknow? I know yaknow, girlfriendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦)

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m waiting for what he will do this week, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m thinking heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give you a much better performance à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  hopefully one that his fans can use more effectively to lobby for his support. The last one, in my view, doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give his fans much evidence to work with when crafting his defense. YMMV. :-)

I agree. I’ve been a major Anoop fan since I his audition but honestly I’m tired of having to throw him a lifeline every other week. I still believe he’s very talented but after seeing his attitude during and after this last performance we cast our votes in Allison’s direction instead. I’ve enjoyed the downloads, like him when he’s crooning a ballad, but I feel like cringing when he does the cocky uptempo stuff.

At this point in the competition he needs to be delivering on song choice, appearance, originality, delivery and attitude.

The bad thing with Anoop was during itunes download week he said “I want to be an R/B singer” that puts Anoop in a box.

There are a lot of voters who are not R/B lovers. When you announce that is the type of music you want to make after Idol that puts you in a R/B box. When he sang Always on My Mind, which was his best performance, he didn’t sing that in an R/B style.

Matt on the other hand said he just wants to make popular music.

“The bad thing with Anoop was during itunes download week he said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I want to be an R/B singerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  that puts Anoop in a box.

There are a lot of voters who are not R/B lovers. When you announce that is the type of music you want to make after Idol that puts you in a R/B box.”

Im glad he knows who he is and what he wants to do after this shitty show.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait to hear Adam sing a song about puppies and rainbows!

I bet he would sing the snot out of it and have me believing every damn minute of it. That is the difference between Adam and Anoop. Anoop has been one of my favorites since the auditions, but he hasn’t found his footing. Anything and everyone can be blamed for this, but it doesn’t stop him from doing his best with whatever he is given, even if it’s the alphabet or the phone book.

Interesting idea of Anoop winning AI 8 floating around after he was in the bottom 3. David Cook, nor David Archuleta were never in the bottom 3.

IMO opinion David Cook is a thousand times better. Anoop reminds me more of a David Hernandez type because of his karaoke R/B singing style, and Hernandez didn’t even make it to the top 10 last year. But maybe some people like that type of singing, it is just not mine.

I couldn’t see Anoop or some of the other contestants this year being the winner of AI 8 after David Cook won last years season.

Last year Cook/Archie’s greatness has made it harder this year for some of the contestants. They raised the bar very high.

I couldn’t even see Anoop or some of the other contestants being better than Michael Johns, Brooke White, Carly Smithson, Jason Castro and definitely not David Archuleta and last years winner David Cook.

Anything and everyone can be blamed for this, but it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stop him from doing his best with whatever he is given, even if ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the alphabet or the phone book.

LOL abbysee. But seriously. Well said. :)

I keep hoping that one of the contestants will inspire me to care enough to become invested and to vote. So far, no one has. I like Adam and Kris but I’m not invested yet. I haven’t bought any of the songs yet either. I may buy some later in the season if I become a fan of any of them. *sigh* This is becoming Season 3 and Season 6 all over again. My least favorites.

I doubt if I go to the tour this year. I didn’t go last year because there was only one Idol that I was extremely interested in seeing live and his set was only about 10 minutes long. I also like Brooke but her set contained one of my least favorite songs of all time, 1,2,3,4.

This needs to be repeated. I completely and WHOLLY agree.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m really confused because I have just re-watched every Matt performance since the top 13 and the judges have absolutely loved every single performance of Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s except for You Found Me. They even went so far as to say for 2 weeks in a row that he is a frontrunner. They were very disappointed this past week in Matt but as Kara said he is a talented guy and does not deserve to go home. Nor do I believe Randy, Paula, or Simon want him to leave either.

I firmly believe if Matt comes out this week and sings a kick ass song with a soulful twist the judges will love him again. I for one canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait to see what he does. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m hoping for a ballad with just his voice and the piano. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d love it if he sang Say You Say Me by Lionel Richie. This last week the judges didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him because they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t feel he is a pop rock singer. However, they hardly crucified him. Unlike they did with Anoop. They told him that they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like his song choice and that he needs to go back to his R&B/Soulful performances they feel he is great at. Randy even said that vocally Matt is better than the song You Found Me. They have IMO been way more exicted about Matt than either Kris or Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ except for Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ performance this week.

Every single contestant can have a bad week and end up in the bottom but bounce back just fine. Just as Matt did this week and he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even have a great performance that tells me he has many many fans that want him in this. There are so many variables as to why someone who is popular ends up in the bottom 3. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe for a minute that Matt was in the bottom 3 because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a fanbase or he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t gaining new fans.

I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the inconsistency with his performances. I think he has been consistently amazing every week since the top 13 with the exception of this past week. Although I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it was as bad as it is being labeled. Most singers do have a bad night every now and again but that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean they arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t great vocalistsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦at least IMO.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know who will win but I believe Matt has just as much of a chance as anyone else. He just needs to continue picking great songs, having great performances, and winning over Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s heart with his passion, incredible talent and musicianship. He already has mine! I think it is way too early to count Matt out!

The bad thing with Anoop was during itunes download week he said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I want to be an R/B singerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  that puts Anoop in a box.

There are a lot of voters who are not R/B lovers. When you announce that is the type of music you want to make after Idol that puts you in a R/B box. When he sang Always on My Mind, which was his best performance, he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing that in an R/B style.

I think that may have hurt him. I took his comment to mean: “This is who I want to be as an artist.” Coming after that performance I decided to stop voting for the potential he might have and vote based on what he was delivering instead.

I firmly believe if Matt comes out this week and sings a kick ass song with a soulful twist the judges will love him again.

The deal about that is it’s not all about the judges anymore as far as Matt is concerned. They pimped him to high hell, told him he was a frontrunner. The voting public didn’t buy. They are not buying him, nor Allison. Maybe that will change. Maybe he will be inspiring, or maybe Kris will continue to clean his clock as the more popular of the two, and Matt will be history. Who knows?

Anything can happen, but I see a lot of campaigning and cajoling, but unless he performs spectacularly on the show and connects with the viewers more than Danny, Adam, and Kris, he is in trouble. That’s pretty much it.

Down to the final 8…now it gets interesting. (and, by the way, I don’t think that this year’s contestants are lacking in the talent department since hindsight is always golden. I can remember years when the early rounds were full of miserable performances and online comments were as polarizing as now).

I’m going to put myself out on a limb, here, and I’m not being a bigot, or a racial snob, or an ethnic whatever. There are some truths in life that are hard for many of us to stomach and what I am about to say does and will continue to happen. Voters aren’t bad but they do see performers through their own life experiences and whether I want to admit it or not they also see these kids through their own prejudices and their own take on life. So here goes.

Scott: he is getting a lot of “sympathy” votes, and votes from those who think that he is so brave to come out and do what he is doing even though he is challenged. He could bore many of us to tears but there will always be the “casual” viewer who equates him moving ahead not because of his performances but because he has this “extra” hurdle to overcome.

Lil: she is female and black, therefore there are many viewers who like her for these reasons. She represents a minority that oftentimes really like someone because she is one of their own. She is also a young mother who is putting herself “out there” to benefit her kids and make their lives better. Many people can really identify with that concept.

Anoop: he is ethnic, and an intelligent college student. Many individuals find someone like him very appealing. He is visual different than the usual idol finalist, he is unique.

Matt: being biracial is a plus for him. Many people can identify with him. Also, he is a musician first and a singer second. This gives him an edge among those people who tend to think you need to be multi-dimensional to be a good entertainer.

Danny: he is religious, has a “good” backstory that tugs at “middle” American heartstrings. Even though he has kept basically silent for several weeks people feel that he is doing this for purely unselfish reasons to honor someone else. Voting for him makes people feel good.

Allison: she is an ethnic minority, has ties to a large and vocal community. To many her youth is an asset.

Kris: he’s the boy next door with the crooked smile. He is wholesome and sweet, a bit shy and bumbling. Many people who liked David A. are rooting for him because he has that “charm” about him. Besides he’s cute.

Adam: he’s polarizing. People will vote for him because he is different. They feel good about supporting someone who isn’t “mainstream”. It helps them show how liberal and open minded they are.

I know that many of us would find these voting blocks ludicrous…but the people I have talked to vocalize these theories. Many can’t tell a good singer from a bad, are tone deaf and don’t really understand pitch and tone and range and arrangements etc. They just like or dislike someone based on who they are, not on any entertainment values.

All this being said…I see the voting really changing over the next few weeks as people have to eventually vote for someone (if they so desire) not because of who and what they are, but because they will eventually need to vote for someone who is different then they are as the choices are diminished. Hopefully, then, those who have a real shot at being an “American Idol” will rise to the top because they do command an audience and do get people to say “yup, he/she did entertain me…I’ll go with them even though they are so different from me”. I think we might have some real surprises in the coming weeks!

It’s just a fact:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  got a REALLY high number of views (19,310 views) on You Tube in just a few days before it became unavailable due to You Tube having to remove it due to the copyright issue. Anoop might gain new voters that werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even watching AI before he sang à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Anoop sang a current song & a lot of people were interested in seeing it.

My top 4 have never changed and have always been consistent and just keep getting better every week.

That is what an American Idol is about. David Cook and David Archuleta just kept getting better as season 7 went on. That shows a true artist and not just a singer.

If I were an Adam fan I would be very worried about him winning because I can guarentee 19E will not allow him to put out music like he has been performing on the show. They will water him down so far you’ll be left wondering where in the hell Adam went. Just like they did with Bo Bice. There will be no glam-rock or electronic music like he previously released. The thing about Adam IMO is that he is entertaining on the show but I for one would never be able to listen to a whole CD of his. Like my 11 year old son said after asking me why people liked Adam…”but mom you can’t see him when he’s on a CD”. I say enjoy him now because once this is over you’ll be given something else entirely. Just my opinion of course.

^ I’m an Adam fan, and you’re right, I’m worried about him winning. I doubt 19E will let him do what he wants. Plus, for him not to come across as a ‘wannabe’ to his target demo, many of which who don’t watch Idol or listen to songs about magic rainbows, he’s going to need a good team behind him and some incredible songs, neither of which 19E has a reputation for. Even if they were interested in keeping him ‘Adam’ I don’t think they know what to do with him anyway. Adam is current, but it’s going to be a lot more difficult than it looks to fit him into the music business. Not because he’s different, but because of the Idol label combined with the type of artist he wants to be.

Tess – WELL SAID. I’ve been waiting for someone to say that because I didn’t know how to say it myself. I agree 100%.

If I were an Adam fan I would be very worried about him winning because I can guarentee 19E will not allow him to put out music like he has been performing on the show. They will water him down so far youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be left wondering where in the hell Adam went. Just like they did with Bo Bice. There will be no glam-rock or electronic music like he previously released. The thing about Adam IMO is that he is entertaining on the show but I for one would never be able to listen to a whole CD of his. Like my 11 year old son said after asking me why people liked Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ but mom you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him when heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on a CDà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . I say enjoy him now because once this is over youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be given something else entirely. Just my opinion of course.

Good point TheRealLife. I like Adam the way he is, but will it transfer to $$$ for 19E and will 19E try to ‘change’ Adam to make him into their cash cow? That is something that might just happen.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  got a REALLY high number of views (19,310 views) on You Tube in just a few days before it became unavailable due to You Tube having to remove it due to the copyright issue.

OK, now that you’ve said this Twice, I’ll respond. It’s important that people are looking for and watching him on youtube, I agree. That’s good. Some significance can be drawn from the views, it’s true. I can’t speak for others, but I did track Adam’s for a few weeks. FWIW, Adam’s youtubes have had at least quadruple (and most times many, many more than — nearly 1/2 million) that number of views in the day or two they stay on youtube before getting yanked. Seriously.

ETA: On the Adam and 19E point, while it may be a good one, he’s theirs if he wants him regardless of whether he wins or not. They have the right of first refusal for all of them no matter where they finish. So, the time that he could have changed that dynamic was the day he auditioned for the show (or not.) :-)

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Tess, I think your take is pretty good. It’s something lots of folks don’t like to admit, but that doesn’t take away from the truth of it. And it will be interesting to see how the voting goes after the next few eliminations.

The deal about that is ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not all about the judges anymore as far as Matt is concerned. They pimped him to high hell, told him he was a frontrunner. The voting public didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t buy. They are not buying him, nor Allison. Maybe that will change. Maybe he will be inspiring, or maybe Kris will continue to clean his clock as the more popular of the two, and Matt will be history. Who knows?

I don’t agree. The judges comments and who they support is very important. The casual viewers are often swayed by what they say.

Or maybe Matt will continue cleaning Kris clock because IMO he has been doing this every week since the top 13 (with the exception of last week). Or maybe Anoop will wipe both Kris and Matt out. Like you said who knows?

IMO Kris is an okay singer but is there really anything special about him? If there is I don’t see it. He has had several middle of the road performances and one really good one. IMO we will not see Kris in the finale. He is very forgetable. For me there is no star quality to him. There are thousands of singers out there just like him. He seems like a nice guy and I haven’t hated any of his performances and he hasn’t made me cringe (like some others). But then again he hasn’t made me stand up and take notice either.

I have no idea who will be in the finale but if I had to guess today sadly I’d probably say Danny and Adam or possibly Lil with one of the guys. Good luck to them all. I just hope Matt stays on for many more weeks because he is the only contestant for me this season. IMO he should definelty beat out Scott, Anoop, Lil, Allison, and Kris. I’d love for Matt to win but I’d take 3rd as well because then I could go to his home coming! I do know that after the season and tour is over I will only be supporting Matt this season. Can’t wait for his CD and hopefully solo shows!

ETA: “On the Adam and 19E point, while it may be a good one, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s theirs if he wants him regardless of whether he wins or not. They have the right of first refusal for all of them no matter where they finish. So, the time that he could have changed that dynamic was the day he auditioned for the show (or not.) :-)”

Yes they can but they rarely do. I think in season five they signed more of them than normal but mostly they stick with the top 2. Did they sign anyone else last year besides the top 2? I know Christie received a record deal but did 19E sign her?I honestly don’t see them wanting to sign Adam if he doesn’t win or come in second. IMO I think he would be more successful as a Broadway performer.

See, I want Adam to win because I think he needs guidance to make the most of his talent. Not only that, but the winner always gets the best promotion where it really matters — radio. Season 5 was an anomaly and doesn’t count. I haven’t followed David Cook’s career that closely since the end of last season, but it seems like the popular opinion is that he’s been watered down since winning. Well, watered down or not, his album is platinum and he’s on tour. I feel like those are luxuries only granted to the winners. I’ve been a fan of enough also-rans to know that winning is always for the best.

See, I want Adam to win because I think he needs guidance to make the most of his talent.

I agree, but I’m not sure if 19E is the right place for him to get it. I’m sure they’re going to sign him, though, whether he wins or not.

Oh…and by the way…SONG CHOICE. I have never heard a contestant say, after a good review, “Thanks, it was my third choice ’cause I didn’t get my favorite pick”. They only mention the song choice limitations when they do any awful job.

ETA: On the Adam and 19E point, while it may be a good one, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s theirs if he wants him regardless of whether he wins or not. They have the right of first refusal for all of them no matter where they finish. So, the time that he could have changed that dynamic was the day he auditioned for the show (or not.) :-)

Exactly. This conversation is had every year. And every year, it comes back to, if they want him, they’ll sign him no matter where he places. Or he’ll wait it out for an offer that may or may not come.

And abbysee – WORD to what you said on the previous page about Matt. They’re attempting to sell him, but so far, it appears that the general public ain’t buyin’.

I think this is the cutest. The Adam Lambert and Kris Allen Confessionals about each other:

Adam – Outgoing Glamrocker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHWB53FZJrI&feature=channel_page

Kris – Shy laid back Folk-pop singer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb7Ott8j8Sc

I love how they are room mates and opposites. Like Idol’s “Odd Couple” on the show.

Or maybe Anoop will wipe both Kris and Matt out. Like you said who knows?

It’s gonna happen!! :D

Ohà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and by the wayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦SONG CHOICE. I have never heard a contestant say, after a good review, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Thanks, it was my third choice à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢cause I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get my favorite pickà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . They only mention the song choice limitations when they do any awful job.

Uhhhh, I would think they would do a good job with their FIRST song choice….

^ Yes, hopefully and probably they would do well with their first song choice, but for someone to do well on AI they need to be able to be flexible. You can’t always get your first choice. PTFM wasn’t Adam’s first choice from what I understand, and it’s an incredibly cheesy song, but he managed to sell it. Not his best, but he got by. Others have done this too.

Cakenbake, I agree, those are so cute. It’s awesome that they’re so different but they get along so well. :wub_tb:

I bet he would sing the snot out of it and have me believing every damn minute of it. That is the difference between Adam and Anoop. Anoop has been one of my favorites since the auditions, but he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t found his footing. Anything and everyone can be blamed for this, but it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stop him from doing his best with whatever he is given, even if ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the alphabet or the phone book.

Uh ok – I wasnt be sarcastic with Adam. Anoop and him are my favorites.

What do you think coco?

Interesting idea of Anoop winning AI 8 floating around after he was in the bottom 3. David Cook, nor David Archuleta were never in the bottom 3.

LOL WOW, Blake was in the bottom – made it to second place – Fantasia was in the bottom – Ruben and clay were, I think – Justin probaly was. Kat was as well.

PTFM wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s first choice from what I understand, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an incredibly cheesy song, but he managed to sell it. Not his best, but he got by. Others have done this too.

Adam DIDNT sell it, imo (and Im a fan)

PTFM wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s first choice from what I understand, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an incredibly cheesy song, but he managed to sell it.

Sorry, I didn’t buy it.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also an Anoop fan, but if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the dark horse, seriously, after last weeks performance, he almost fell 8 jumps from home and is trailing the field by about 3 lengths!

LOL. that is some funny shit right there.

But, if he can bring it, he can and will bring it. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll sell even a song he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like.

Yes, this. People do it all the time. I’ve watched people kick major ass doing something they hate. If you’re good at what you do, and I mean really good, somehow you make it work. If you can’t make it work, maybe you’re just not good enough.

You know, honestly? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give two shits if you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to sing the song. You sing it and perform it anyway, and try to DO SOMETHING with it, instead of whining and bitching and acting like a baby. Not that anyone has done this this season. But I still donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“the show must go on.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

And this too. I don’t care about any of that, “well my friend knows his third cousin’s stepbrother’s acupuncturist, and he had rehearsed a different song that couldn’t get cleared and only had 2 days to rehearse the one he performed”. Well, whine, whine, whine, cry, cry, cry. My heart’s breakin’ for ya’. A great singer can create a great performance in one or two days. Some people can just deliver, and some can’t. And I think at this point, it’s much easier for us to figure out those who can. Not to mention the fact that typically those mountains of excuses cannot be confirmed one way or the other.

Uhhhh, I would think they would do a good job with their FIRST song choiceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I think the point here was that the subject only comes up when the contestants have a crappy night. Clearly some people on this show have had to cram with their second and third choice at the last minute yet we never hear of it – because they still found a way to kick ass.

Adam DIDNT sell it, imo (and Im a fan)

Of course it wasn’t his best, and he may not have sold it to you, but the majority of people I’ve seen comment about it on various sites were impressed. I didn’t think it was spectacular myself, but it wasn’t his first choice, and he gave a performance convincing enough to impress a lot of people and keep him out the bottom 3.

Another example (yup, Adam again): He changed his song in the semifinals on the Monday, the day before the show, and he pulled it off and gained a ton of fans.

ETA: Spenser… WORD.

LOL WOW, Blake was in the bottom – made it to second place – Fantasia was in the bottom – Ruben and clay were, I think – Justin probaly was. Kat was as well.

Actually not this early at the stage of the competition. Fantasia was only there because the R/B diva field was crowded with Latoya and Jennifer. They were splitting the R/B lover’s votes and when one left the other two moved up. After one left Fantasia was never in the bottom 3 again. I don’t recall Justin being the bottom 3 this early in the competiton, nor Blake.

Anoop was in the bottom 3 only when we are at number 9 to leave. While the others were already in the top 3 or maybe top 5, except for the Jennifer/LaToya/Fantasia shocker which I explained. So Anoop has been in the bottom 3 early on, which is not a good sign.

Yes, this. People do it all the time. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve watched people kick major ass doing something they hate. If youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re good at what you do, and I mean really good, somehow you make it work. If you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it work, maybe youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just not good enough.

What if there are people in the background – trying their hardest to bring you down??? Whatever you do, they trash you. – no matter what :cry_tb:

“Clearly some people on this show have had to cram with their second and third choice at the last minute yet we never hear of it – because they still found a way to kick ass.”

& who would that be?

“I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it was spectacular myself, but it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his first choice, and he gave a performance convincing enough to impress a lot of people and keep him out the bottom 3.”

He was horrible on country night and could have EASILY been in the bottom 3.

Superstitions about past seasons do not necessarily translate to being statistically valid or providing accurate predictions of future results.

What if there are people in the background – trying their hardest to bring you down??? Whatever you do, they trash you. – no matter what

People aren’t trying to bring Anoop down. He was an early frontrunner, he was given a second chance in the WC round, and so far the judges haven’t been too hard on him IMO. When he’s been criticized, I think he’s deserved it. Of course, that my oppinion :)

ETA:

& who would that be?

David Cook and David Archuleta, for starters. Plenty of others. I couldn’t list them all because they were so good I wouldn’t notice they weren’t a first pick.

When a contestant is consistently great every week, like Adam, he can have one bad week, but if a consistent hasn’t, it could be disastrous if they do.

What if there are people in the background – trying their hardest to bring you down??? Whatever you do, they trash you. – no matter what

Well, I know nothing of these mean, nasty background people. But assuming they exist, my advice would be the same: Regardless of what happens at any time throughout this experience, you have 90 seconds of live tv where you can do what you need to do without anyone stopping you. Make those 90 seconds mean something. So, take your balls out of your mama’s purse, get up on that big stage and sell it.

I understand that AI is a huge machine for which not everyone has the mental fortitude or stamina. This process does break some people down. And, those are not the kind of people who are meant to win this competition.

You don’t win the superbowl whining about your ankle sprain. And, you don’t get an olympic gold medal for nursing your hairline fracture. You have a huge, once in a lifetime opportunity, so you suck up the pain and charge ahead. This competition is really no different. And again, if they can’t conquer their mental shit, they are just not going to win.

“See, I want Adam to win because I think he needs guidance to make the most of his talent. Not only that, but the winner always gets the best promotion where it really matters à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  radio”

Star, I agree with you 100 percent. Adam does need the guidance and support. I think he can get so far out there, he needs someone to reign him in. Let him go to the edge just enough. I think he will get to have some say in some of the music he puts on his album. And you know he is going to do what he wants for his stage show.

From interviews, David Cook seems to like his album and he co-wrote much of it. So is it really a watered down version of what he would have put out? I don’t know. I think Bo and Blake are the ones who suffered, but they didn’t win.

How much song writing ability do the past winners have? Do Jordan and Fantasia write their own music? I’m really just asking because I didn’t really follow AI closely until Jordon’s year. And the reason I got hooked on that was because of Blake. I know Kelly fought to write her own album and it did ok. But sometimes people do need input. I think that is why some of the best music comes from bands and not solo artists. Band members have each other to write with. I think David is happy with this album, but I bet his next album will be better because he will be writing with his bandmates.

People aren’t tying to bring Anoop down…Anoop is bringing himself down with bad song choices and less than stellar performances. Also many people didn’t like Anoop’s “tude” after the judges critique him.

Who are these people trying to bring Anoop down? You mean the voting public, the media…who?

I keep reading that from some of his fans but in which way are “they”, who ever that is, bringing Anoop down?

Who are these people trying to bring Anoop down? You mean the voting public, the mediaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦who?

I was wondering the same thing????

Spenser… Word, again. :laugh_tb:

I say this as a diehard Anoop fan…
We have to stop focusing on everything that happened last week. First of all, it’s over and done. All that matters now is how everyone performs this week. We also aren’t doing him any favors with other fans or undecided voters by focusing on last week. Those of us that love him know why we love him and how talented he is. We don’t have to justify it….just like no one else has to justify why they love their preferred contestant. It’s a new week. Let’s just get ready to hear/see him on Tuesday and get ready to vote like crazy!

What if there are people in the background – trying their hardest to bring you down??? Whatever you do, they trash you. – no matter what

Coming out of auditions, Anoop was my favorite. Nerdy, College guy, intelligent, quick witted, attractive, likeable, etc. I you tubed all of his videos, thought he was fantastic with the Clefhangers. Now, each week, I find myself becoming uncomfortable listening and watching his performances. He still has a good voice, sings really well, but he doesn’t have that same charm and charisma that he had early on. In my humble opinion I feel that part of his charm was being part of a group..he fed off of the other group members, rose to the occasion as part of a group. I think Anoop would be ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC as the lead singer for an R&B group. As a solo artist I find him just passable. I do wish him well and I hope he will be able to find a song that he can really relate to that will loosen the entertainer within. As far as the judges comments, yes some have been harsh but not entirely undeserved. Anoop just hasn’t been able to put it altogether, yet.

and so far the judges havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been too hard on him IMO. When heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been criticized, I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s deserved it. Of course, that my oppinion :)

They are demeaning his character. They are going away from his vocals. They are bashing on his character…..I dont know…..I just cant get over all that. They have been disgustingly harsh on him. No one on that show has been treated worse.

“Well, I know nothing of these mean, nasty background people. But assuming they exist, my advice would be the same: Regardless of what happens at any time throughout this experience, you have 90 seconds of live tv where you can do what you need to do without anyone stopping you. Make those 90 seconds mean something. So, take your balls out of your mamaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s purse, get up on that big stage and sell it. ”

If it was your favorite contestant….you would probaly be saying stuff a little differently.

By “they”, If you mean the judges, well that is what they are there for. They are in the music business and they are there to judge and critique the contestants.

Early on Simon ripped into Jorge and Jorge politely smiled and said he understood. Megan laughed off the criticism. When Simon said to Kris he needed to be more conceited Kris smiled and politely said he would prefer to stay the same. Matt had some of the harshest criticism even though he did good, Matt didn’t argue, he tried something different. They critized Allison’s and Lil’s clothes, now THAT is different, but in no way is Anoop being “demeaned” by the judges that they haven’t done to other contestants.

I thought what Anoop did hurt himself with many causal Idol viewers when he responded to the judges critique that way.

Every week ALL the contestants are critiqued some harshly and in the dog-eat-dog world of the music business that is the real world.

But I understand when fanbases sees it as a personal attack on their fav by the judges, but I didn’t. I thought the judges critique was spot on about Anoop’s performance. Maybe he might be better next week, but Anoop has not been a consistent singer/performer every week.

The judges can judge Anoop, but they shouldnt be allowed to personally attack him.

The judges can judge Anoop, but they shouldnt be allowed to personally attack him.

When did they personally attack him? I haven’t heard them criticize him and his personality any further than they have some others.

No one on that show has been treated worse.

I don’t know, Allison has been under praised, made fun of for what she was wearing and had Simon drawing on Paula when he should have been giving Allison feed back.

Adam – Satisfaction, Simon pretty much said he was horrible in parts, and let’s not forget the ROF “what the hell was that? People are throwing their televisions through the windows” comment and then a follow up that he still thought it was horrible the next day.

Alexis – got the OTT label, not dirty enough etc.

Jorge – I can’t remember what was said, but it wasn’t nice.

And how could we forget Megan? That was just a mess.

Matt’s gotton some zingers from the judges as well.

Anoop did get a wild card spot. They didn’t have to do that. So they do see something in him. Hopefully next week he will have a better week.

I do think they are testing the contestants. From what we have read, it sounds like Danny, Adam and Anoop have all had their songs changed at the last minute. It may be a test to see how they hold up under the stress. They can not have someone who will crumble under stress win this contest. So I see it as part of the game.

The judges can judge Anoop, but they shouldnt be allowed to personally attack him.

Anoopfan I understand it is upsetting when the judges critique your favorite, BUT, I didn’t see the judges personally attacking Anoop. They critiqued his singing and his performing style, and that is what the judges are there for, to judge the contestants singing and performance.

Now if you were a Allison and Lil fan and said the judges were picking on them because of what they were wearing…NOW THAT is a non-singing, non-performing critique.

If the judges had said Anoop had to clean-out his eye-brows, now that would be an uncalled for personal attack IMO, but they never said anything like that. The Judges mostly talked about his singing and performing style.

Simon said that Anoop’s SINGING gave him a headache and Kara said that Anoop’s SINGING was like his frat friends had dared him to sing that. They said that Usher uses dancing to enhance his performance, which Anoop didn’t do.

I don’t see that as a “personal” attack, but a ‘judges’ critique on Anoop’s singing and performing style.

Also if a contestant can’t handle critisim…they should never try out for the show, because that is how real life is in the music biz.

The judges can judge Anoop, but they shouldnt be allowed to personally attack him.

I’m a bit confused, here. If you judge someone and the judging is negative it will always seem as though it is a personal attack. My Gosh, why in the hell are the judges even mentioning clothes and attire or hair styles or shoe choices. What the F…? I thought Allison handled that personal attack very well. I remember David Archuleta being attacked about his father, and Carly was systematically raked over the coals.

These Kids are going to face a much rougher critic than 4 over the hill judges when they get out in the real world. I can’t believe the reviews I’ve read over the past year for Idol singer’s songs and CDs. Most have been excrutiatingly painful to read and I don’t hold any stake in the words other than being a fan. I don’t think Anoop has been the only Idol to be “attacked”, in fact I think it would be fair to say that every contestant has been raked over the coals a time or two.

Anoop seemed to have gotten over it all by results night, so maybe we should too.
Sound good to everyone?

Anoop seemed to have gotten over it all by results night, so maybe we should too.
Sound good to everyone?

I agree.

Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t forget that Randy said Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s vocals on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  were REALLY, REALLY GOOD & Paula also emphasized à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“REALLY GOODà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  vocals on Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Caught Upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance.

Boo FUCKING Hooo…..poor little ole Anoopie!!! Those horrible people being mean to him…..I mean seriously NO ONE has ever been humilitated by the judges, No one has had their first choice of song deny or their second for that matter, no one has ever had a huge fucking greyhound bus run over their ass…..poor ole Anoop.

As others have stated much better than I ever will, you suck it up and give whatever you are handed the best 110% you have. You don’t bitch, don’t talk back and smile politely while getting reamed. It’s just what you do. Don’t make excuses. Don’t get a tude. Be better and bigger than those horrible mean people are.

The judges can and will attack anyone they want. Anoop is no different than anyone else that has been on this show. Everyone gets it at some point during the season. Hell the winner last year was called pompous, arrogant and smug several times. If that isn’t a personl attack I don’t know what is. But you know what, he got past it and rose to the occasion.

Anoop is not special…IMHO. He will last a couple of weeks go on tour and then we shall very little from him ever again.

Look I love Anoop…his voice is the kind I listen to and I liked “Caught up”….was it his best performance…by a mile no it was not…on the other hand for people to say he is not talented isn’t being fair but to each his own. The judges this week were just not happy with a lot of ppl..it was just a bad week for all the idols in general. I agree with what someone said earlier, lets get over last week’s performances and look fwd to this week.

At the end of the day if our favorites don’t make it through is our life really going to end. Will the contestants lives be over…no in fact just being in the top 10 is a blessing for them and a huge door has been opened!! Also I like Adam and I don’t necessarily think winning AI is the best thing for him. He should be allowed creativity and I don’t think the execs at 19 will allow him to have that creative control.

I really hope that each contestant does well this week, i will still vote for my favorite but I hope for the best for all of them.

in fact I think it would be fair to say that every contestant has been raked over the coals a time or two.

Very true, both by the judges and sometimes the viewers as well.

Adam – Simon calling parts of Satisfaction “excrutiatingly bad,” the RoF comments

Danny – Constantly criticized by some viewers for the pimping of his wife

Kris – Told he was forgettable, needed to be more arrogant, shouldn’t have brought the wife out

Matt – Called out on the frowning by Kara, several bad performances heavily criticized

Lil – Called arrogant by many viewers, Simon’s comments on country night

Allison – Clothing criticized

Scott – Took a verbal beating from Simon a few weeks ago

Anoop – Called out by viewers because he comes across as arrogant to some, criticized (rightly) on several below-par performances

Anyway, I guess all we can do is wait for next week and see what happens.

WOW!! when did this turn into an all out war???

I was wondering the same thing. Can we call a truce? Sign a peace treaty? Move on to a new topic? Something?

Wouldn’t American Idol be a very boring show (I know, some of you already think it is!!) and wouldn’t this be a very boring website if we all had the same opionions. It’s really tough to watch my favorite get hammered by the judges and online critics, and its harder still not to rise to the bait when someone “disses” my well-thought out arguments as to why my favorite was and is the best. But, gosh darn, I love to hear all sides of the issue…especially when someone agrees with me…and love the competitive spirit that arises when someone doesn’t.

The final 8 contestants are all so different, with so many pros and cons. They have all sung well, sometimes, and have all bitten the dust at others. There is no way on earth that I could handle the pressure situations that they do (and I’ve lived 3 lifetimes longer than they have). I’m glad we have all agreed to disagree about who the Season 8 Idol will be. Wouldn’t life and the show be boring if the finalist was crowned by everyone coming out of the auditions. Oh wait…then we wouldn’t have a show, would we?

If it was your favorite contestantà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.you would probaly be saying stuff a little differently.

LOL – I’m such a fickle fan, I would have jumped off the train by now. I don’t have a clear favorite at this point – I still like a few people in this competition and several of them still have a chance with me.

These Kids are going to face a much rougher critic than 4 over the hill judges when they get out in the real world. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe the reviews Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve read over the past year for Idol singerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s songs and CDs.

And there’s that. Plus, those “ouch” inducing concert reviews. These kids are often verbally brutalized by the time this process is over. That’s my main reason for not wanting the youngsters in it.

With all that said, I like Anoop. I think he is a smart, educated, talented guy. I suspect he will have a very successful life. I just believe the life he ends up with will probably not be a big recording career.

New TOPIC. What the frig is up with the clothes the idols are wearing? I thought they had a stylist? Do people really dress like that in real life…if so where have I been?

Least favorite dresser: Danny
Best dresser: Adam (I love his freak show)
Why does she always dress for the red carpet?: Lil
Why are his pants always 2 sizes too small: Matt

Any others????

Allison really did look like Pebbles Flintstone last week… and I mean that in a cute way….

I think I should just stop posting for the night.

Me too. Anoop will do just fine regardless of what is said by anyone here anyway!!!

WOW!! when did this turn into an all out war???

I was wondering the same thing. Can we call a truce? Sign a peace treaty? Move on to a new topic? Something?

LOL – I must have missed the war. I’m okay with the debate. Also, I’m totally okay with making fun of the contestants. In fact, that’s one of my favorite things to do. And I see Tess has opened a lovely door for that so,

Least favorite dresser: Danny
Best dresser: Adam (I love his freak show)
Why does she always dress for the red carpet?: Lil
Why are his pants always 2 sizes too small: Matt

Danny always looks ridiculous to me. His clothes are atrocious and so are his glasses. For the most part, while I agree with the thing about Matt’s pants and Lil being far too dressed up all of the time – I’m okay with most of their “young, hip people” looks.

I do not get where people think Matt hasn’t been picking up fans – his facebook has been growing steadily, and despite the worst judges’ critique this past week, he wasn’t in the bottom 3. I would say he garnered more fans this week than two weeks ago. His You Found Me was much better than the judges wanted it to be. And yes, his recorded music is one the best of the top 8 if not the best.

I think the bigger issue is that there are several guys who are very good. The judges have talked about it from the beginning of the season. Votes are being split between all the guys left.

Allison really did look like Pebbles Flintstone last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ and I mean that in a cute wayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

See, I kept calling her Lava Girl, but I get where you’re coming from with the Pebbles thing. For me, you only have so many years to wear shocking pink hair, and 16 is one of them. So, I say go for it.

AnoopFan
Are you Anoop’s Mom, cuz you have some righteous devotion to the boy! LOL
This is what the show is, we find our favorite and defend them no matter what. We get mad at the judges, the comments, the press, but when all is said and done, it’s a TV show. Every one of these kids can get a CD out, if Anoop has enough fans (Elliott Yamin is a perfect example) the CD will sell and pick up radio play.
We all come on here and post our comments about our “favorite” like it might change someone’s mind just by reading what we wrote. Not gonna happen, the people who love your fave will agree with you and the people who don’t, won’t. Nor will they be swayed by anything you say.
No reason to get upset. You get your phone out on Tuesday and vote your fingers off for your boy.

For me, you only have so many years to wear shocking pink hair, and 16 is one of them. So, I say go for it.

That’s what I say!!! I mean look at what Lady Gaga was wearing….they really should lay off Allison’s style…

Wow, baxter – MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.where are you? He should be banned for all that.

Bax is female and didn’t tell others what to say. So….

Least favorite dresser: Danny
Best dresser: Adam (I love his freak show)
Why does she always dress for the red carpet?: Lil
Why are his pants always 2 sizes too small: Matt

Lol, I dunno, I think Adam could give Matt some competition in that last category!

I wish Danny would lose the glasses. I know they’re his trademark thing and all, but he needs to mix it up.

BTW, great new topic :)

For me, you only have so many years to wear shocking pink hair, and 16 is one of them.

I’m in trouble….I had the ultra bright red well into my over the hill years…I must have thought I was Lucille Ball.

What’s with Lil’s wigs, etc. Bet she gets to keep the wardrobe and hair pieces (no Carly said they had to leave the hair behind, oh well). Her girls are going to have a great time playing dress-up in the months to come. Not to belabor a point…but if my bottom was that prominent, I think I would choose a bit of camoflauge, though. (Not that her bottom isn’t Ok and everything, but…guess I’ll stop while I’m ahead.)

Momentum-wise, Kris is moving up the charts. I mean people aren’t even placing him in the pool anymore. I even see Lil and Danny over him.

He just needs to maintain it because the others are just losing their footing with each performance.

What the frig is up with the clothes the idols are wearing? I thought they had a stylist? Do people really dress like that in real lifeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦if so where have I been?

No one I know dresses like that. Megan’s mom jeans last week were “interesting.” I love Anoop but I hated his jacket. Speaking of jackets, there have been some pretty atrocious jackets trotted out this season. And oy, Scott’s pink pants.

Wow, baxter – MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.where are you? He should be banned for all that.

I just wanted to point out that Baxter is not, in fact, a he. (oh and for the record, neither am I, for those of you fooled by the Spenser thing :smile_wp:)

I understand that sometimes it is difficult to hear someone criticize your favorite, but that happens a lot around here and is not a bannable offense.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what I say!!! I mean look at what Lady Gaga was wearingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.they really should lay off Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s styleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Also nad, I should point out that I’m a total hypocrite. Because if little 5 year old spens comes home with that hair when she’s 16, I admit I’ll be singing a different tune LOL. (Although I’m pretty sure that round about ’87, my hair was a little on the purple side).

Speaking of jackets, there have been some pretty atrocious jackets trotted out this season. And oy, Scottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pink pants.

LOL – you are right – the jackets have been all kinds of wrong this season. I expect sunchick to show up any minute with her Scotty Hardcore imitation – Respect the pink pants!

And oy, Scottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pink pants.

Lol. Wardrobe needs to go easy on Scott. First the pink pants, and last week it looked like he stepped out of a low-budget high school remake of Grease!

Lol. Wardrobe needs to easy on Scott. First the pink pants, and last week it looked like he stepped out of a low-budget high school remake of Grease!

While the wardrobe people have not been kind to Scotty, I believe it’s the hair stylists who should be charged with “hair crimes against a blind guy who cannot defend himself”.

Also nad, I should point out that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a total hypocrite. Because if little 5 year old spens comes home with that hair when sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 16, I admit Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be singing a different tune LOL. (Although Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure that round about à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹87, my hair was a little on the purple side).

Actually I would be a hypocrite also…lol….but hey if she did have hair like that it will make for some great blackmail pics when she gets older… :smile_wp:

While the wardrobe people have not been kind to Scotty, I believe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the hair stylists who should be charged with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hair crimes against a blind guy who cannot defend himselfà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

HA! I can’t stop laughing at that!

Baxter is all woman! She is also completely right. Anoop is a one trick pony. He seems a bit on the frat boy side. (I thought that before the Judges comments) I am pretty sure he won’t last long. Anoop rhymes with ……
Baxter rhymes with spectacular!

Now, will someone explain: gloves without fingers when it is 100 degrees on stage, chains coming out of pockets, holey jeans, wearing slips as dresses, full arm tats, t shirts 2 sizes too small, gosh awful tenny runners, dress jackets with those holey jeans, comb overs, facial hair that just makes you look like you never bath, guy-liner (when worn by straight guys), leather pants, colored tights (I wore those in the 70s), high heeled shoes you can’t walk in much less dance in?

The dressers / stylists have had some major bombs this year!

What the heck is up with Lil’s hair? Why can’t she just wear her own hair? The girl is beautiful, just as she is, and I would rather see her come out this week with her own hair. Maybe she’ll get back to some better singing too!

What the heck is up with Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hair? Why canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she just wear her own hair?

That is an excellent question. She is a beautiful girl, and I too have no clue why she needs a wig collection the size of Tina Turner’s.

ETA:

full arm tats

Yeah that. I am not a fan of large tats at all, and I’m particularly creeped out by the whole sleeve tat thing. So, I couldn’t really figure out at first why Megan’s didn’t bother me all that much. Then, I figured it was because Carly’s husband’s creepy full face tatoo must have made me immune to finding AI tatoos shocking.

Now, will someone explain: gloves without fingers when it is 100 degrees on stage, chains coming out of pockets, holey jeans, wearing slips as dresses, full arm tats, t shirts 2 sizes too small, gosh awful tenny runners, dress jackets with those holey jeans, comb overs, facial hair that just makes you look like you never bath, guy-liner (when worn by straight guys), leather pants, colored tights (I wore those in the 70s), high heeled shoes you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t walk in much less dance in?

Saddle shoes and white socks, sharkskin suits, oversized sweaters, sweaters worn backwards, wide leg bell-bottoms, hot pants, 2″stacked heels on men, Hawaiian shirts, bowling shirts, peg legged pants, etc. , etc., etc.
They are all just a fad.

I wonder what happened to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a wildcard could win thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I do think he was referring to Matt.
Sigh.. Come on Matt… You can do this. Get off those nerves. You are so talented.
I am so with Kara…
Matt’s demeanor is endearing to me. He seems so fragile and sensitive, and that’s what been hurting him lately. I hope he can recuperate.
He is such a good humble guy with this incredible talent. Maybe he is not ready, but I hope he doesn’t give up.
I am praying for you this week Matt.

I actually like Anoop well enough, but he’s not all that consistent. Plus, his bus is more like a mini-SUV. Anoop has had plenty of chances to shine. I still miss Alexis and Jesse.

ETA: Has Danny ever been panned by the judges?

pj, I think the only time Danny has been “panned” was when Simon called his Motown week performance “amateur and clumsy”. Other than that, the judges have been WAY too kind to him.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what I say!!! I mean look at what Lady Gaga was wearingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.they really should lay off Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s styleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

The first thing I thought when I saw Lady Gaga was that the judges had a lot of nerve criticizing Allison with her on deck!

I don’t have any purple hair in my past, but part of what I love about Allison is how real she is. I’d rather see her in a few age-appropriate fashion disaster outfits than dressed up like a pageant doll.

MJ, please don’t ban baxter, she was just offering her own opinion about a contestant on the show.

Thanks.

Now I do think the judges should stop with the “what the hell are you wearing”. I understand if they throw that in, but they should not make it the whole critique of the overall contestant’s singing and performance.

lmao at the style critiques — I guess Kris is smart at being stubborn about not letting the stylists touch him…

What the heck is up with Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hair? Why canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she just wear her own hair? The girl is beautiful, just as she is, and I would rather see her come out this week with her own hair. Maybe sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get back to some better singing too!

The constant changes are distracting instead of enhancing her perfomances. She might fare a lot better by just getting up there and being herself. If playing dress-up isn’t helping the confidence, it’s time to put the comfy shoes back on.

For all the pushing of her by the judges, do we know anything at all about her previous music experience…or wasn’t there any and that’s why AI’s dodged the issue entirely?

I pretty much agree with all that you said Mj – my top 5 would be Adam, Kris, Allison, Danny and Matt. I really only care about my first four there but I believe that Matt is the lesser of two evils when it comes to Anoop. To this day I cannot get his evil face out of my head, I know it is crazy but you caught a glimpse into his real side, I think, when he allowed that mean evil stare for a second after Simons critiques last week. I dont know but I also cannot get past his Beat It performance either I guess. I would like the top three to be Kris, Adam and Allison.

“MJ, please donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ban baxter, she was just offering her own opinion about a contestant on the show. ”

I agree with this and it would be a little boring without the mistress of harsh – I imagine her sitting back with a cigarette hanging out the side of her mouth, swilling a whisky sour – why is that? She can be pretty cranky but an interesting read.

Guess I missed the war, just as well. Tess, you are right. It is good that people have different opinions and it does keep the show interesting and the blog interesting. I wish sometimes the comments weren’t quite so mean spirited, including my own at times.

I wanted to comment on the impersonations from the other night. Wasn’t it cool how much they all seemed to like each other and get along? They were having fun, not being mean. Even in their exit interviews on Idol Tonight they have nothing but positive things to say about each other and that includes Danny and Adam. I didn’t find Danny’s impersonation of Matt any more offensive than Matt’s impersonation of Danny on the taped segment or Allison’s impersonation of him during the show. They all seemed to take it in good fun. Anoop’s impersonation of Kris cracked him up. I love the way they all step in to help Scott when he needs to get from point A to point B. I like the way he was included in the fun at the “mansion”. This just seems to be a really nice group of people.

The best dressed discussion above was kind of interesting. I love Adam, can’t stand the way he dresses usually, but loved him in the gray suit singing Tracks of My Tears. Awesome! Same with Allison. Love her, can’t stand her clothes. But I am over 30 so maybe am just not hip enough to appreciate them. Lady Gaga for example to me was Lady Gag-Gag.

Danny has a more casual look. I think people are put off by his glasses, maybe, but as a glasses wearer myself, I think it is cool that he is playing with it and making it a part of who he is. Good for him. I like Matt and Kris’s downhome kind of dressing. Both look comfortable. To be honest I haven’t noticed what Anoop and Scott are wearing, so it is clearly not something that is offensive to me or something that I love. Megan would be hard pressed not to look awesome no matter what she wears because she has that classic Hollywood beauty and doesn’t seem to cover it up with anything too outrageous. The Caws and arm flapping were outrageous enough. I think Lil dresses too old. She always looks elegant and beautiful, but she looks 30 not in her early 20s. I would like to see a younger looking Lil. Maybe it is because she is a mother so young, but wouldn’t it be fun to see her losen up a little bit and act like a young person. I do find her more personable than Syesha and just as talented.

Well, I hope I haven’t offended anyone. There isn’t anyone on the show that I believe shouldn’t be there. I did think there were better singers than Megan that didn’t make the top 12, but of those remaining, all are talented and I wish them all good luck. I believe it will be hard for anyone to knock Adam and Danny out of the top 2 position, but Kris and Lil might have the best shot at it. Allison and Scott don’t seem to have the fanbase and Anoop’s fanbase has kept him in it this far, but I agree there do not appear to be many converts to Anoopdom. Matt just seems to be on a downhill slide the last few weeks. I hope he can turn it around because I like his bluesy sound. It should be a fun and interesting remainder of the season and I am getting some really nice downloads from I-tunes already. So hopefully we can all lighten up a little bit and enjoy the ride.

QCloud and Anoop Fan:

If you can’t handle criticism of Anoop, I suggest you both stop reading.

I’m here to tell you both, that if you don’t calm the fuck down, I’m putting you both in moderation.

MJ, you clearly only want to protect the amount of traffic on your blog. I’m sure you know most of the bloggers on your site are Adam fans, just like last year you knew most were David Cook fans, so you do what you have to do to keep them happy.

MJ, you clearly only want to protect the amount of traffic on your blog. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure you know most of the bloggers on your site are Adam fans, just like last year you knew most were David Cook fans, so you do what you have to do to keep them happy.

No. I want to protect my blog from stupid fan wars and idiotic fantarding.

Stick to your fansites if you can’t handle the conversations here without freaking out.

You are both on notice.

Matt is so great, IMO. I love this guy and anticipate his future whatever musical direction he chooses. Though I do favor his r&b/soul flavor, his voice is butter to my ears. In fact, “You Found Me”, is a song I never cared for, but now love.
He’s a sincere singer/musician, and I feel that. Not so much with the other contestants (Kris perhaps). For those who do listen to the studio versions, I’m sure you can agree Matt is amazing; ready for radio, IMO, and I’m buying.

I haven’t even read any comments I just want to say,
MJ, I sure hope your ideal Top 5 ends up being the real Top 5. (even though there’s not a chance in hell)