Hope y’all have simmered down after Wednesday’s shocking bottom 3.   Those shocking results occur nearly every season on American Idol, and once they’re examined, seem not-so-shocking.   This week was no exception:

  1. Kris Allen performs in the easy-to-forget first position. The genre is a bit out of Kris’s wheelhouse.   The buzz is mixed.   Simon is critical, so maybe some vote to save him. But he competes with Allison and Danny for votes. Kris ends up in the Bottom 3.
  2. After birthday girl, Allison Iraheta’s awesome performance of “Someone to Watch Over Me”, Simon Cowell inexplicably declares her in trouble.   Online chatter indicates many voted in an effort to save her.   She ends up in the Top 2.
  3. Matt Giruad at this point, is running on fumes.   Despite Simon’s praise, his performance of “My Funny Valentine” is over-cooked and pitchy.   Out-performed by everyone else, he’s finally sent home.
  4. After several lackluster performances, Danny Gokey gives one of his best performances, ever, on the Idol stage.   He gets glowing reviews from the judges. Viewers take notice and throw him their votes.   Danny could be the night’s top vote getter.
  5. Adam Lambert performs last.   Casual viewers, possibly caught up with saving Allison (and maybe Kris to a lesser extent) and/or rewarding Danny for a performance that was both excellent and better-than-usual, may have passed on voting for Adam this week. After all, there are plenty of peeps voting for him, right? Plus, It’s a showboaty performance. Gauging the buzz, it seems casual fans prefer ballad Adam (Mad World) over theatrical Adam (Ring of Fire). A combination of these factors could have sent Adam to the Bottom 2.
  6. The producers revealed a bottom 3 instead of a bottom 2 as they usually do at this point. It was as if they purposely wanted to show both Kris and Adam–two contestants receiving mucho buzz in the press–as vulnerable.   And if by chance Adam happened to really be third, why not fudge the results and put him in the bottom 2? Nigel Lythgoe admits it’s possible.

The Idol producers must’ve been giddy with excitement when they got the results.   With the save behind them they were given another opportunity to craft a truly-edge-of-your seat episode that would have viewers buzzing at their water-coolers the next morning.

It was also perfect timing for dusting off that old trick that splits the contestants into two groups, with the odd man out made to choose which group he belongs in.

Adam, this year’s Huff (For Season 3′s George Huff –the first put in the unenviable position), seemed completely blindsided by the situation, and when he actually chose a side–presumably the top vote getters–after a bit of hesitation, I was neither amused or offended.   After 8 Seasons of watching Idol, I am so over the Huff.

So, yeah. At the edge of my seat. I could barely keep up with my live blogging, I was so nervous. To be honest, I feared more for Kris Allen than Adam Lambert.   Kris seemed truly in danger after his performance Tuesday. Once Ryan sent him back to the stools I breathed a sigh of relief while awaiting, what I believed, was the inevitable elimination of Matt Giraud.

Matt’s singout was way better than his initial performance.   Earlier in the season, I think the judges were hoping he’d catch on.   He does have a contemporary vibe and a good recording voice. But when it comes down to it, the only thing that matters is what happens on the Idol stage.

The right guy went home, but what a ride it was getting there! Wow.

New predictions.   I’ve always said not to count out Danny Gokey. I believe the guy has a solid fan base that votes for him no matter what.   Is Adam Lambert’s voting bloc strong enough to resist? Casual votes may become crucial in this race.

So much depends on how both Danny and Adam play out the rest of this season.

Danny is obviously working hard to change what’s been holding him back. Tuesday’s performance showed both restraint and a polish not seen in prior performances.   If he keeps that up, he could give Adam a run for his money.

Adam needs to keep walking that tightrope between staying true to himself and, quite frankly, not scaring the crap out of America.   I think he should emphasize his mad vocals rather than his over-the-top performance skills, cause I think it’s the voice America loves.

Allison Iraheta and Kris Allen will probably be leaving us in the next   two weeks.   Not sure who is going first. It all depends on this week’s performances.   I think they both have the potential to pull off great performances.   Allison has a voice made for rock, while Kris could have a field day arranging something that’s perfect for his folk/rock vibe.

Personally, I’d rather see an Adam/Allison or Adam/Kris final. But I think an Adam/Danny final is inevitable.   They both have the fan bases and it’s obvious TPTB want it bad. Methinks two buses are parked at the CBS lot–one is for Kris, the other for Allison. Sads.

ETA: Forgot to say, Adam’s appearance in the Bottom 2 means his fans will be voting extra hard this week. The days of vote-splitting are over–not only for Adam, but all the Idol fanbases.

Adam Lambert – 1 or 2
Danny Gokey – 1 or 2
Allison Iraheta – 3 or 4
Kris Allen – 3 or 4

 
  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    Next week will be interesting regardless, I’m sure. We’ve had the Danny/Allison confidence boost and the Kris/Adam bottom 3 scare. All four of them will perform based on those happenings. This week’s performances could change the whole scenario…again.

  • risalea

    I wouldn’t count Kris Allen out yet. I don’t think a finale featuring Kris is out of the realm of possibility, but I do think he needs a killer performance Tuesday night. His fan base is determined to get him into the top 3, and I believe that will happen.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Both Kris and Adam have fanbases who will be on fire. Danny seems to have a really strong fanbase since he’s never been in the bottom group. That leaves Allison. I think she’s probably hit the end of the road, unless….

    1) She gets good feedback from Simon and picks up a lot of the casual vote, and

    2) Danny really sucks and doesn’t get his usual share of the casual vote and is the shock boot.

    I really hope that happens. Not counting on it.

  • jz

    Casual votes are going to be really important these next few weeks.
    I think the voting totals for each contestant are pretty close to each other right now – no one is necessarily “running away” with the competition in terms of votes.

    I’m craving for more “moments”. Looking at the WNTS database, only one performance this season has rated above 90. That makes me :-( .
    Hopefully, those moments will come from Adam, Kris, and Allison.

    Speaking of cravings, I’m also digging the idea of a shock boot coughofDannycough.

    ETA: Regardless of whatever happens, I think this year’s Top 4 deserve a HUGE round of applause. Check out these statistics – it’s crazy awesome (credits to the wonderful, diligent people at WNTS):

    - AI8′s Final Four has the second-highest cumulative approval rating of any season heading into its last three weeks. At 67.25, it’s fractionally behind AI6 (entirely thanks to Doolittle) and comfortably ahead of third-place AI5 at 65.2.

    - Lambert, Iraheta, Gokey and Allen have given 36 performances, and they’ve rated above 50 on 32 of them. At 89%, that’s by miles the highest percentage of any season. In contrast, last year’s Final Four broke par on just 63% of their efforts.

    - The Final Four have fallen below 3-stars just once all year (Gokey’s Endless Love, at 35). That’s a mind-boggling 97% “quality ratio”, and it’s nearly 10 percentage points higher than their closest pursuers, AI2.

    - Individually, Lambert is currently the highest-rated male contestant in the show’s history, and he ranks fourth among all finalists. But he’s got company: Iraheta is seventh, and Allen is ninth. Barring a significant dropoff, should any of them win they’d be the second-highest rated champion ever, behind only one K. B. Clarkson.

  • cwg509

    I’m with you, so over the Huff. They need to permanently retire that move.
    100% agree with your analysis- can Adam and to a lesser extent Kris and Allison get the “too cool to vote” fans to pick up the phone? Otherwise, this could go to Gokey

  • Suzanne

    Top 4 night in Season 5–Katharine McPhee would have been out except for one motivator for the voters–she was the only girl left.

    I don’t think Allison is going out this week.

    Last year’s Rock and Roll night–Cook probably had the most votes but the best performances were by the other David. Maybe the same thing will happen this year–the rockers get outsung by the non-rocker? Kris?

    I sure am pulling for Kris, and I’d love it if Danny is out. But I think I may be saying bye to Kris. Boo Hoo.

  • anubha

    I agree that the vote totals are probably really close. It might be the reason why DialIdol is so…well, useless this year.

    I’m really excited! Rock week, bottom 3 surprise build-up, and it’s shock boot week, too! Anything can happen!

  • lukien

    Dear MJ,

    As much as I would like to agree with you, but I have my own theory (but since I’m a huge Kris’ fan so this theory could be biased hehehehehe).

    I think Allison is a shoo-in for Top 3 (at least) since she’s the only female left in the competition (remember Byesha last year???) and besides this week’s theme is rock week, Allison’s week so she can’t be eliminated, can she???

    Kris ensures himself a place in Top 3 since he’ll be getting extra votes from Matt’s fans. After all, all the Kratt’s loves should be put in use, rite??? Besides, I think Kris is getting stronger. Was that only me that NOTICED that when Ryan called all 5 contentants to divide them into groups, ONLY Kris that got exciting screaming from the audience???

    So it leaves the Gokey vs Glambert fighting for a spot in Top 3. Whoever wins … who cares??? (I don’t)

    In Top 3, Kris is DEFINETELY a shoo-in for the finale. Why??? Coz whoever loses in Top 4 (Adam or Danny), his fans will switch their votes to Kris.
    If Danny is eliminated, all the church lovers will vote their heads off for Kris, a worship leader, a devoted husband, a humble person, etc etc.
    If Adam is eliminated, all the Kradam lovers will vote their asses off for Kris, the only K-sizzling hot guy left in the competition and etc etc (many I could write here but I think they aren’t PG-rated)

    So it will leave Allison battling out with either Adam or Gokey. Well, I hope the power of the women this year will carry Allison to the finale to prevent a back-to-back male vs male finale.

    So in the finale will be KRIS vs ALLISON (my dream finale ever since the semifinal group 2)

    Actually, I’d love for Kris to win the whole thing, but if Allison wins it, I won’t mind either since Allison is my No.2 since the beginning. Besides, for the past 4 years, my no.1 fave each season always ended up as the runner-ups: Bo, McPhee, Blake & Archie … so I have the sneaky feeling that Kris will follow the trend and ends up as a runner-up as well :)

    So GO KRIS !!! GO ALLISON !!! Love you … in that order :D

  • hollygo9

    It’s time to say goodbye to Danny. Kris will crush it this week plus have the full fiery support of his fanbase.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I agree that the vote totals are probably really close. It might be the reason why DialIdol is soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦well, useless this year.

    I think its useless because AI wanted to make it useless. In season 5, I couldn’t get through for my fave except for a few times during the whole two hours. That changed in season six and seven. Now, I can get through pretty easily after the first 5-10 minutes no matter who I vote for. They obviously opened up a lot of phone lines.

    Also, I think a lot of the busy signals have to do with your local carriers, not the number of lines AI has open.

    Finally, lets not forget those text voters.

  • primeminister

    I think it will come down to who gets the bulk of Matt’s votes. My gut says it’s Kris, assuming he doesn’t screw his performances up on Tuesday. Anecdotal evidence supports this claim. :)

    That leaves Danny and Allison vulnerable next week, imo. If Allison performs well and gets good comments, perhaps America will finally put the GO in GOKEY! If that doesn’t happen, Allison will be a goner.

  • JenG

    lukien, I think you grossly underestimating both Danny and Adam’s fan bases. And overestimating that all of Matt’s fans will go to Kris. I’ve seen a lot of talk of Matt fans going to Adam/Danny, not just Kris.

    I really can’t see both Allison’s and Kris’ fanbases being strong enough to over power both Danny and Adam.

    My gut feeling says that Allison is in trouble this week (even with it being rock week.) But I hope not!

  • abbysee

    I am more worried about the ‘rockers’ this week. I think on a week that should about unbridled over the top passion, Adam has to temper his instincts to please those who are afraid of ROF Adam. I love Adam period, but if I want him to win, I guess OTT Adam will be saved for the finale, if he makes it.

    Allison’s support is the real wildcard. I think she is alot of peoples second fave and for those who were voting to save her, thinking Adam was safe….where will they gp this week?

    I have no doubt that they will all perform beautifully. Danny is going to find some rock that he can take to church and it will be fine, or not, his votes seem to have no relationship to how he performs

    Kris is going to give us some cool, soft rock. He may be in jeopardy, but he may also sing his cute little self into the finals if the Gokey’s votes evaporate. The key to this thing is will they pimp Danny hard, or push Kris under the bus?

    I won’t make predictions because I just don’t know wtf is going to happen.

    My desire is for an Allison vs. Lambert final. I just don’t think it’s possible.

  • Valentin432

    I agree with most of your assessments MJ, particularly about the whole Wednesday night episode.

    There is two things in particular that I am looking forward for this week:
    1) Does Danny keep this up? His performance made me wonder if he isn’t peaking at the right time or if it was just a fluke (I am more on the fluke side).
    2) What is going to be the impact of Adam’s fanbase fired up? If it’s as big as I suspect, we are going to see a massive increase and it should probably reflect on DI.

    Both Kris and Adam have fanbases who will be on fire. Danny seems to have a really strong fanbase since heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s never been in the bottom group. That leaves Allison. I think sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s probably hit the end of the road, unlessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

    I am more confident than you are pj, I do believe that Adam will pick up a lot of votes this week but I am a little bit more suspicious about Kris and Danny.

    If we went by size of fanbases (on the net at least, don’t know how to evaluate them otherwise), Allison should have been out of the show probably about the same time Alexis was. Her performances have carried her to the top 4 and I see no sign of her slowing down so everything is possible:). It’s not surprising she’s the favorite of several bloggers following the show.
    Moreover I am not convinced there is any kind of buss heading towards Allison, Randy and Kara absolutely loves the girl and Simon has been a fan these past 3 weeks (I believe his comments this week were truly meant to rally her fanbase).

  • sweetie99v

    If we went by size of fanbases (on the net at least, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how to evaluate them otherwise), Allison should have been out of the show probably about the same time Alexis was. Her performances have carried her to the top 4 and I see no sign of her slowing down so everything is possible:). Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not surprising sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the favorite of several bloggers following the show.

    Allison has been in the bottom too much. Plus, her itune/ebay sales are done. And you are correct, she is the favorite of a few bloggers. But to be honest, she’s hardly mentioned in the press. She’s good but forgettable. I will be absolutely shocked if she beats out the three remaining men, but stranger things have happened on idol.

    Moreover I am not convinced there is any kind of buss heading towards Allison, Randy and Kara absolutely loves the girl and Simon has been a fan this past 3 weeks (I believe his comments this week were truly meant to rally her fanbase).

    I don’t think so. Read Smion’s full interview in this week’s TV Guide. He says Allison and Kris have boring personalities. He said Danny is good, but would only have a chance to make it in the U.S. because of his “appeal”. He thinks Adam could be an international Star. He does have Danny winning though because of the American appeal/back story/etc.

    Anyways, I want an Adam/Kris Finale, which means both of them better do well enough this week to make it past Wednesday’s elimination show. lol

  • jz

    Allison has been in the bottom too much. Plus, her itune/ebay sales are done. And you are correct, she is the favorite of a few bloggers. But to be honest, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hardly mentioned in the press. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good but forgettable. I will be absolutely shocked if she beats out the three remaining men, but stranger things have happened on idol.

    Two words: Syesha Mercado.
    Being the only girl definitely helps in the competition (another example would be Katharine McPhee, I believe).

  • ohiobofan

    As much as it pains me I think you analysis is correct, but I think it will be Kris going first due to the fact that Allison is the last woman running. I would still love an Adam/Allision or Adam/Kris final but this week unlike last week all my votes to will going to Adam instead of trying to save Allison and Kris. But I am happy with this final four, I think its the right final four for this year.

  • lovecert

    The performances have not begun and I am already dreading the results show.

    They are probably using the same duet groups on results night.

    Ryan will go, “Paula, one of the groups is the bottom 2. Which one?” Paula beats around the bush and says nothing significant. When he reveals the bottom group, he asks one of the them, “What or who do you think caused the downfall?”

    CRINGE-WORTHY.

    Or he brings out the groups one at a time and ask Simon, “One of the two is not safe tonight? Who do you think is safe?” Simon says Danny and Ryan reveals that he is in fact in the bottom 2.

    FTW.

  • flynnsgirl

    If Danny is eliminated, all the church lovers will vote their heads off for Kris, a worship leader, a devoted husband, a humble person, etc etc.

    If this is why people will switch their votes to Kris then they shouldn’t be allowed to own a television.

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    IMHO, the top 4 are all so good that the top 3 seems pretty unpredictable. Not everyone votes based on track record, which I somewhat documented here in my blog: http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/the-idol-journey-of-the-top-4/

    So, in light of that, it really depends on who gets pimped, who gets thrown to the death spot, who gets the praise, who doesn’t, who performs brilliantly despite judges’ banter, who performs sucky despite the judges’ praise and all those factors like casual votes.

  • rbidol

    Because all the contestants are so close, I think the real “wild card” Tuesday is who will get the pimp spot. Three people have a claim to it: Danny, Kris and Allison. Danny has never had it…but he was “Second Pimp” last week…and his performance for rock week may not be pimp-worthy (crossing my fingers).

    Kris has been in spots two and then one for the last two weeks…and has had miserable placement all season. Both he and Allison have had the pimp spot before…but Adam has already broken the seal on getting it twice. Kris deserves to be AT MINIMUM number three, and hopefully in the pimp spot.

    Allison has had slightly better placement the last two weeks…but certainly nothing to write home about. Some people think she might be in danger simply because she has been in danger before. If the producers want her in the top 3, they may give it to her.

    The only thing is that Adam should be in spot #1. If they are worried about losing viewers, they can advertise that he will appear again later in the show, but it would be absolutely unjust for him to be anywhere but the pimp spot, in my opinion.

    Seeing how the producers order the contestants his week will be especially enlightening. If they have any interest in a Gokey shock, they’ll give him the second position, I think.

  • lukien

    Dear JenG,

    At this moment the way I see it is all the 4 contestants start with a clean sleet … or all has 25% each of the share of the votes.

    I’m not underestimating the Gokeys or the Glamberts. I know they are very strong and vocal in the internet. But how do you know that Kick Awesome and Allison’s fans aren’t up to par with them? Just because they are not as vocal then you are underestimating them??? Besides, all the talks being where the casual votes will go to? Presumably as I stated before, the casual votes will go to Allison as the only female left in the competition plus go to Kris as HE IS GETTING STRONGER.
    I don’t see the casual votes go to either Danny o Adam at this point of the competition. Why? Coz blame the producers they have been heavily pimping both guys so it seems unnatural that anybody who turns in to AI at this stage will be suprised with their performances anymore and CASUALLY vote for them. Nahhhhh for me it ain’t happen.

  • Gary Seven

    Nigel also says American Idol producers do not lie. On Wednesday’s results show, Ryan said the two bottom vote getters were indeed Adam and Matt. Another conspiracy theory short on the facts.

  • JudyOhio

    If either of the rock duets are a faster song, I hope they really PHYSICALLY WORK THE STAGE!

  • cay

    The people that voted for Syesha are probably voting for Danny. These are the casual voters (older) that watch Idol for that traditional powerhouse voice. Danny’s been picking up fans, but early on he barely registered online. Yet he was always 1 or 2 on Dial Idol and never bottom 3. He has that silent Syesha vote.

  • cookcricket

    Adam/Kris/Allison top 3 FTW!!!!!

    TBH, at this point anything can happen, imo.

    If Kris happens to go out this week, I just hope it’s on a strong performance. C’mon, Kris is awesome! He deserves to be in the top 3! He and Allison both!

    My favs:
    Kris
    Allison
    Adam
    Danny

    I don’t think this reflects the results, but a girl can hope…and dream…

    In fact, I don’t even want to say that Danny will be in the top 2 until it actually happens, that’s why I don’t want to rank them according to what I think it will be.

    Oh and btw, the reason I put Kris and Allison in top two is because, I’d buy their albums. Adam, imo, has stolen the show this yr.

  • sweetie99v

    Two words: Syesha Mercado. Being the only girl definitely helps in the competition (another example would be Katharine McPhee, I believe).

    I’m assuming you are comparing Kris to Jason from last year? If so, Kris has been way more consistent and comes across as more of a musician type. My opinion of course. Syesha might have made it to top 3, but she didn’t make it to the finale…. Even if Allison makes it past this week, I would be shocked if she made it to the finale. Unless the show doesn’t want another male/male match up like last year. I honestly don’t see which boy (Adam, Danny, & Kris) she legitimately knocks off, unless something happens to one of the other three guys within the next 2 weeks, which is always a possibility.

    My mind just can’t wrap around that. but as with all things, time will tell.

    Regarding Katherine, I don’t think her being female kept her in longer than Chris. People were pegging Chris as sounding the same every week (rock sound), and Katherine was beginning to blossom. Grant it, in the end Chris is the one who is doing well in the music scene, but it wasn’t as big of a shock as some are making it out to now. The only reason why Chris comes up now is because he is selling so many records. Its the same thing with J-Hud. She was completely mutilated on the show! But now that she’s an Oscar winner/grammy winner and won pretty much every other award in the acting category, as well as other music honors, she comes up as the “example”.

  • clearone

    Coz blame the producers they have been heavily pimping both guys so it seems unnatural that anybody who turns in to AI at this stage will be suprised with their performances anymore and CASUALLY vote for them. Nahhhhh for me it ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t happen.

    I disagree. I think a lot of casual viewers flip flop especially where Adam is concerned. On the nights he is perceived as OTT they tend to flock elsewhere. When he performed Mad World, for example, they came to him in droves. I can see the same thing happening tomorrow night.

    Performance order…..I think the only sure things are that Kris won’t be first and Adam/Danny will perform back to back.

  • elephant1212

    american idol needs a person this year that they can be proud of to go out and support and give them major publicity and huge advertising campaign, thus i think that if danny won, he would not be a star like simon said in the tv guide interview. i know it is up to the voters, but i really really think that TPTB DO NOT want a danny winner becuz he will go the christian music route and how do they market that?

    adam/alison/kris are hugely marketable. they each have big potential to make great records. althought we are on the internet community, every person i no thinks that danny is a good singer but hes not good like the standouts in the past.

    over heard some kids in class (at college)….”danny yea hes a good singer, but that is just it. boring. predictable. taylor hicks 2.0″

    my mom-”he is not attractive enough to be a star” -LOL

    grandma-”he looks just like the guy that mowed my lawn this morning lol….and i wish he would stop looking at the sky when he sings”

    DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL THIS way?

    (ok sorry about the rant but i just had to say it……WHO CAN IMAGINE HIM WINNING AND PEOPLE NOT FORGETTING ABOUT HIM AS SOON AS THE SHOW IS OVER?)

  • hollygo9

    If there is an ounce of fairness, the order for Tuesday will be:
    Adam first
    Allison second
    Kris pimpultiment
    Danny pimp

    Depending upon when the duets take place and who is matched with whom, the order may not matter.

  • ShariG

    I agree with your synopsis, MJ, but will still be voting for Kris until the bitter end. I prefer his voice, his style, and his personality to both Danny or Adam. In the beginning I was just hoping he would stay in the competition until Top 4. Now I really hope he makes it to the finale and even the win. If it doesn’t happen, I am still really excited about him as an artist and look forward to a successful career for him in the future.

  • sweetie99v

    adam/alison/kris are hugely marketable. they each have big potential to make great records. althought we are on the internet community, every person i no thinks that danny is a good singer but hes not good like the standouts in the past.

    I agree with this. Danny has a good voice, but he doesn’t have that “IT” Factor. sometimes AI finds a star and sometimes they just find a winner of a tv singing contest. Which will it be this year?

  • clearone

    Depending upon when the duets take place and who is matched with whom, the order may not matter.

    Exactly…..I think it’s entirely possible that it will be

    1
    2
    Duet
    3
    4
    Duet

    So the the show will end with a duet. I think it’s likely it will but who the hell knows what is going through their small little minds in the AI production offices.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    sometimes AI finds a star and sometimes they just find a winner of a tv singing contest. Which will it be this year?

    Oh, I think they find a star nearly every year. Sometimes, the star just doesn’t win.

  • Michelle

    I’m torn between not wanting to get my hopes up and preparing for Kris to be sent home this week due to not having a “big” voice like the other three left. But at the same time it’s so hard to get a real sense of the fanbases…it seems like the votes are SO close that it could truly come down to performances.

    I’d love for Kris to get to top 3, but I realize he’s got no room for error this week for that to happen. The first-time B3 appearance, I don’t know how much rally effect it will have. If he’s sharing fans w/Adam, they will probably help Adam more since he was presented as B2 and supposedly was in “worse” trouble.

    Allison, my other fave, I think will have an easier time of it. Her voice was made for this theme. And even if she does have a misstep, if the judges are harsh on her I’m confident the voters will save her.

    Adam is also safe, after last week’s scare, his voters have finally tasted fear, lol. If a scare could rally Matt out of B3 the week after save, I have no doubt Adam will enjoy the same effect.

    Danny, Danny, Danny…how strong is your fanbase really? Enough to keep you out of B3 thus far, but if the votes are very close and Kris/Allison/Adam have been shown to be vulnerable, will the casual fans finally be motivated to help the other three out?

    IMO each of Kris, Adam and Allison has something special beyond a good voice to help them stand out. Danny has a great voice, but IMO does not have anything extra. If the other three are performing for their lives this week and Danny just coasts as usual, could he lose votes to them?

    Then there’s the added challenge of the duets, where each one could live or die depending on who they’re paired with (if they really are pairing with each other). This will be an interesting week!

  • Valentin432

    Allison has been in the bottom too much. Plus, her itune/ebay sales are done. And you are correct, she is the favorite of a few bloggers. But to be honest, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hardly mentioned in the press. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good but forgettable. I will be absolutely shocked if she beats out the three remaining men, but stranger things have happened on idol.

    She has been in the bottom once in the past 4 weeks, I would put more weight on more recent results than on older ones and for all we know Kris bearly escaped the B3 several times (at least that’s what DI suggests).

    The whole Itunes/eBay argument is a good one but I will make the assumprtion that these kind of numbers reflect more the depth of the core fanbase than the breadth, if those were indicators of vote Adam would have an outrageous lead and never been in the B3.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    IMHO, the top 4 are all so good that the top 3 seems pretty unpredictable. Not everyone votes based on track record, which I somewhat documented here in my blog:

    Er, are you going to be pimping that blog entry in every thread? Your posts are beginning to come off as spam, so be careful, please.

  • NOLA

    I think a lot of casual viewers flip flop especially where Adam is concerned. On the nights he is perceived as OTT they tend to flock elsewhere. When he performed Mad World, for example, they came to him in droves. I can see the same thing happening tomorrow night.

    Yep, yep, yep. And Tuesday is ROCK. I see Adam letting it all fly on Tuesday, which will be a big, big mistake, IMO.

    I also think Danny will go last on Tuesday, saving that pimp spot for final 3 for Adam. Top 2 toss a coin.

  • rbidol

    Echoing what some others have said: we do not know the strength or weakness of anyone’s fan-bases. There is some talk as if Kris clearly has a weaker fan base than others…but remember, he has been in the bottom three only as many times as Adam Lambert (and if he was truly number 3 last week, he was in the middle of the pack, and most seasons they would not have reported that since they only reported top two in the past). There is evidence out there that Kris is truly competing with Danny and Adam, despite starting with a screen-time disadvantage. I definitely don’t think Danny’s fan base is obviously bigger than Kris’s, and I have a really hard time believing he is pulling in a ton of young voters like Kris is…but, we’ll see, I guess…

  • JudyOhio

    I am an “older” voter who is anything but “casual” about voting. We old folks know our rock. Perhaps Danny’s fans are more conservative, I really don’t know, but I have a hunch he’s not attracting rock fans no matter what their age (imo). In so far as other singers go, Syesha never made a blip on my radar screen, and Danny, well, I’d rather watch a commercial.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Nigel also says American Idol producers do not lie. On Wednesdayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s results show, Ryan said the two bottom vote getters were indeed Adam and Matt. Another conspiracy theory short on the facts.

    Ryan never used the phrase “vote getters”. The phrase “bottom 2″ could mean anything.

  • cmheart

    With Syesha Mercado, I’m sure being the last woman standing helped her, but I think she was also probably granted an easy pass into the Top 3 when Jason Castro completely bombed on Top 4 night.

    As for Adam. I honestly don’t see him NOT getting through this week after seeing the reaction from his fan afters hitting the bottom 3. Most of those (Adam fans) that were once vote splitting between him and Allison (or Kris) will now only be voting for Adam. I think Allison could potentially hurt the most from that. On top of that, I doubt she she will receiving much of Matt’s votes.

    I love the idea of a “Group 2″ Top 3 (I’ve actually been hoping that since the Top 13), but I don’t see it happening. I’m glad that all 3 of them have gotten this far though.

  • lukien

    well … talking about the order of the performances here’s my opinion:

    FIRST
    Adam will go FIRST. He must !!! No more pimping spot after last week. I hope the producers finally get the clue.

    2nd/3rd
    Danny & Kris. Either way, doesn’t really matter.
    Last week Danny SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN the pimp spot. HE WAS DUE !!! But … the mouth-watering Adam in white and walking down the freakin’ stairs were too-good to be not to be put as the final perfomance … and don’t forget the final note … (I think I still can see it … damn you EW Idolatry to keep playing Adam’s tounge in that note!!!)
    To put Danny AFTER Adam last week would be like throwing Danny under the bus … so they revised the position.
    My suspion is that Kris will be 2nd & Gokey 3d.

    Pimping position
    Allison. Why??? She’s the only true rocker left and this week’s theme is rock, besides … she’s the only female left … hello !!!
    As much as the producers love the DARK vs LIGHT finale (aka Danny vs Adam) … they are smart people who can read market values (aka the money from ads). So they will AT LEAST will do their best to push Allison to Top 3. Expect a glowing comment from the judges … including from Simon.

  • lydia

    I am probably totally out of touch with the MJ’s blog love for Glambert. I do understand over-the-top-fandom, having last year become a complete idiot in my complete and utter devotion to David Cook, but I can at least mock my own idiocy for such adoration for a reality tv contestant. (I still and probably will always love DC even if my own fandom freaks me out.) Having at least outed myself for understanding fandom dynamics, I totally don’t get this year. Prior to my DC aberation, I could pull for my favorite singers fairly objectively having loved Nadia Turner, Carrie Underwood, Chris D, Paris Bennet and mostly Melinda Doolittle over the few years I have watched without benefit of internet guidance. Watching this season evolve, I was mostly pissed off at the producer manipulations and the poor presentation of the top 36. I do think that despite the producers, that Idol has come up with an excellent top 4, but a Top 4 that will not destroy me or elate me, no matter what the ultimate results. My picks for the top 2 are hopeless fan-wanking–Allison and Kris. I love both these contestants as everything I think Idol should stand for–finding amazing raw talent and turning them into stars. Allison is raw but potentially the best “singer” of this group. Kris is a musician and a song interpreter and I love his underdog vibe. Gokey is foregettable to me, but has a good chance to win. I am coming back to my initial thought that I totally don’t get Glambert. In any other season he would have been dissed as being too theaterical. I really want to like him, because he is the cool and popular choice this year and I can be swayed, but I really don’t like his voice despite multiple listens to studio recordings. He probably will win, and I won’t be pissed like AI6, but I won’t cry tears of joy like I did for DC. I also think an Allison or Kris win would warm my mostly cold skeptical heart.

  • cheese

    I think anything could happen with this Top 4 and I don’t personally care who goes home this week and who ultimately wins. It’s a nice feeling to have at this stage of the season, lol. I just hope it’s a fun show this week.

    I do think that Adam in the finale would be optimal for ratings, though, and I also can’t imagine a Top 3 show without him. Actually, I guess I do hope he stays because I don’t want to Internets to break if he gets shock booted. I think he’s the best equipped to handle the three songs in one night format and I still think he’ll win.

    I don’t want Danny to win, but hey, what’s the worst thing that can happen? He puts out a shitty album that no one buys? The show is still on next year regardless. No harm done. TPTB created him, let them market him.

    I can’t really see Kris winning at the finale without singing a single glory note, but if he manages it, good for him. If he wins, it will probably mean that they don’t let any cute boys with guitars through next year, so be careful what you wish for.

    I think Allison is least likely to pull out a win should she make the final 2. She’s my favorite of the remaining four, but she doesn’t seem to have the support. She would have to kill all 3 performances and have someone else come up with the equivalent of Kat singing “My Destiny” or Blake’s “This is My Now.”

  • jz

    sweetie99v
    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m assuming you are comparing Kris to Jason from last year? If so, Kris has been way more consistent and comes across as more of a musician type. My opinion of course.

    Oh, no no no noooo way. I agree, Kris > Jason.

    You bring up good points in regards to the other girls…

    My mind just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wrap around that. but as with all things, time will tell.

    …But I mostly agree with this statement. Ultimately, what goes down on Tuesday will determine the outcome.

  • rbidol

    My suspion is that Kris will be 2nd & Gokey 3d.

    I mean, that’s possible…but for Kris to be in the top half of the show this week would be so grotesquely unfair that I don’t even want to think about it. He has been in the first two spots three times in the last four weeks…and four times in the last six weeks The fact that he has made it this far with that kind of placement is really impressive, btw. It would just be ugly if they put him there for the fourth time in five weeks!!!

  • clearone

    …and the pimp spot could be totally a non-factor this week if they choose to close with a duet.

  • NOLA

    Echoing what some others have said: we do not know the strength or weakness of anyoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fan-bases.

    Simon pretty much tells us who is pulling in the votes. The judges ARE NOT supposed to know the vote totals on Wednesdays; but you can bet your farm that they know them after the Wednesday shows. Simon knows who is pulling in the most votes…he doesn’t pull it out of his butt. I think this has always been a 2-MAN race.

  • JenG

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the casual votes go to either Danny o Adam at this point of the competition. Why? Coz blame the producers they have been heavily pimping both guys so it seems unnatural that anybody who turns in to AI at this stage will be suprised with their performances anymore and CASUALLY vote for them. Nahhhhh for me it ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t happen.

    I don’t agree. I think Adam’s ballads attract a lot of swing votes. I also think that if Danny continues to perform like he did last week, he could pick up a lot of casual voters as well.

    .
    I’m just going to jump on the bandwagon here and agree that it’s too hard to predict what’s going to happen next week because we really have no idea how big the voting fanbases are.

    We can only guess at what happened to Adam’s supposedly humongous fan base last week. Or how much of Danny’s fan base has stuck around from the beginning. Or if some of the contestants have been sharing part of their fan bases, And if those fans will continue to vote-split or not.

    Of course, if there are duets this week. We have no idea how those performances are going to come off. Will they be judged (I’m going to assume so) but how will they be judged? Will it be Danny and Adam screaming at each other. Or working together?

    These last few shows are shaping up to be quite interesting!

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I can’t see either Danny or Adam leaving next week. Adam is going to have peeps voting for him full force after his near elimination last week. And Danny’s strong but silent fan base will continue to vote for him as they always have…

  • NOLA

    I agree with mj

  • cmheart

    I do think that Adam in the finale would be optimal for ratings, though, and I also canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine a Top 3 show without him.

    I agree. Whether you like him or not, Adam is quite obviously generating the most buzz, and ratings would hurt if he wasn’t in the finale. I’m not quite sure what they’d do if they lost him in the next week or two.

    In all likeliness it still looks to be Adam vs Danny till the end.

    It retrospect, it would have been nice if they hadn’t made the predestined finale so obvious to us in the first week of the Top 13.

  • NOLA

    I will stand by what I said, though, that if Adam pulls another ROF type performance on Tuesday, he will lose a lot of votes. Not enough to knock him out; but with only a few weeks left, every vote is precious.

  • reeboks1

    allison will be okay. only girl tween following being awesome rock week = stay.

    or maybe i’m just hoping that’s the case??

    i’ve never been impressed with kris. he’s boring. and i have a feeling he is going to look goofy up there and leaving on wednesday. although i wish it would be gokey…

    even if allison does leave though, she could open up for an archuleta tour. i bet TPTB see a money maker. i wish i were ten years younger so i could buy an iraheta album and not feel foolish!

  • abbysee

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want Danny to win, but hey, whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the worst thing that can happen? He puts out a shitty album that no one buys? The show is still on next year regardless. No harm done. TPTB created him, let them market him.

    Yep. It would be funny to see the aftermath of that.

    It retrospect, it would have been nice if they hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t made the predestined finale so obvious to us in the first week of the Top 13.

    Except that many don’t think it’s predestined. Since the itunes popularity bar leak many still think that Kris has a shot. Some thing that EW’s support of Allison will get her in the top two,so predestination is not always destiny.

    However, I think it will be Danny vs. Adam. It would have made me feel better if Danny hadn’t sleepwalked him way through the entire competition though. Say what you will about former OTT pimpees, they usually performed way better than Danny has.

  • cmheart

    I will stand by what I said, though, that if Adam pulls another ROF type performance on Tuesday, he will lose a lot of votes.

    I don’t think Adam will ever be pulling another RoF performance on the Idol stage after the reaction he got. He’s smart, obviously wants to win, and knows how far to take it. I can even see him potentially playing it a tad safer this week after his bottom 3 scare. Just a guess though…

  • Valentin432

    I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see either Danny or Adam leaving next week. Adam is going to have peeps voting for him full force after his near elimination last week. And Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s strong but silent fan base will continue to vote for him as they always haveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    In all fairness, I don’t believe Gokey deserved to be eliminated during any of the previous weeks, he has never had the worse performance of the night and the judges have almost always given him high praises.

    I believed the first test of the depth his fanbase would have been this week but he performed well enough to get a good number of casual voters.
    I still have good hopes for a “shocker” elimination this week.

  • Layla

    Damn! Im so excited for this week…rock and Slash! I’m off on a camping trip with my class but my 16 year old daughter has promised to come on MJ’s and find out about Adam…uh I mean the results. I’m home again on Thursday night so I can’t wait to see MJ’s vids and read the comments..so make the comments good for me peeps!

    It would be heaven if I my daughter texted that Gokey was eliminated! Put the Go in Gokey!

    Good luck Adam, Allison and Kris…top 3 for TMFW!!!!!!!

  • reeboks1

    do the itunes download bars really hold that much value?? i have watched idol just about every year and consider myself to be a pretty big fan. i vote consistently, i follow idols post-show, i buy albums when they’re released, but i rarely if ever download their performances.

  • elephant1212

    From VFTW: spot on!!

    Okay, people, the unthinkable has happened:

    VFTW has chosen Danny, aka DWG (Dude with Glasses) as their pick of the week or three days or whatever. Here is their reasoning (although they said they would never do it, but believing them is ridiculous, b/c they waste time watching a show they despise, so the phrase not too bright applies to most of themà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’read their posts for verification):

    Anyway:

    Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re sure most of you are looking at your computer screens saying, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Huh? Gokey?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  But everyone has to admit that Danny Gokey is the least talented person left on the show and the perfect pick to make people angry. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the worst singer, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the worst dancer, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the most annoying, he adds nothing creative to any performance he does, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one the tweens seem to hate the most, he has no sense of humor, the only reason he made it this far is because he used his dead wife sob story, and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the least marketable. A Danny Gokey album would be like a less likeable Taylor Hicks releasing a new record: a complete disaster. The other 3 actually have a chance at legitimate careers. Also, the overly obsessive Idol fans this year want Adam to win. We think some suicide pacts were made when he hit the bottom 2 last week. So weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to see Gokey beat Adam and piss off the Idol fans even more. So ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no jokey, vote for Karaoke Gokey. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a win-win for us this week no matter what happens. If Danny stays and kicks out someone the tweens and frauen like better, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be hilarious. If Danny goes home, we wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care one bit because we hate him. At this point ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be very funny to force Idol to crown Danny as the victor. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be stuck with him for at least one album of pure train wreck goodness. But now, we canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t lose. VFTW Victory! Danny surely has urned this honor for using a personal tragedy to try to jumpstart a singing career.

  • steve

    I do think that Adam in the finale would be optimal for ratings, though, and I also canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine a Top 3 show without him.

    How do we know if maybe adam votes were falling off for a few weeks.
    That could be why they pimped him so hard.Simon did seem pissed off the first half of that result show.

    What if allison had the highest votes last week.I would think she got most of lil’s votes and some of anoops.Most said she was the best last week.

    OK back to the grassy knoll :unsure_tb:

  • oddobserver

    I shudder and cringe to say this, but in view of the fact that Danny really wants to win, I’m gonna predict that GOkey will somehow or other pull a stunning performance, with a trick like oh, he ‘suddenly’ finds his lower register, or some other previously unseen ability.

    Danny knows how to play the AI voter like a harp string. From what I can tell, the contestant perceived to have improved over the course of the AI weeks tends to get the vote, and Danny will know that if in the homestretch, he can pull off progressively good performances, he’d be a shoo-in for the final, especially when pimped by the judges. Heck, I liked a good ‘improved makeover’ story as much as anyone before I knew about GOkey.

    Adam peaked too soon, anything he does now is either OTT or ‘selling out to the balladeers’. I really hope that someone is able to advise him on how to perform without over-prolonging the glory notes (if only he had done the glory note like he did in the recap version, instead of just stretching it like a taut string in the performance for so long). Hopefully, if he performs with Kris on a duet, Kris might be able to arrange the song to tone Adam down a little, but able to give him lots of room to show off his vocal ability, or better still, carry Kris’ voice in a well-melded counterpoint.

    *I’m still wondering why Danny doesn’t appeal to me. Another reason is probably Danny’s rasp sounds like a bee buzzing near my ear. Makes me want to swat him. At least Allison looks away to the right when she does the ‘rasping’, so there’s a perception of the ‘bee’ being further away, I guess. :tongue1_tb:*

    Is it Tuesday night, yet?

  • lukien

    OK for those who are crazy for glory note … here’s the fact (not really a fact, it’s still my opinion, but could be true as a fact, why not???):

    This year AI made a change from Top 24 to Top 36. Therefore, they needed people to make-up numbers, thus the sing-off was introduced (I didnt follow AI 1-3, so I didnt know if sing-off happened there). Maybe most of you didnt know, but Kris Allen faced a sing-off. But of course as you know, Kris’ sing-off wasnt included in the footage but you can see the pics of the sing-off in the AI website. The funny thing with Kris’ sing-off … he and the other guy sang in front of the judges one after another while both were in the room and both were singing with mic!!! No explained stated but I think … from Kris’ early video saying that much of the critics from the judges ealy on that he was lacking confidence during performance thus the sing-off with mic was to see whether he’s capable to draw out his charm or not. Thank God that he survived the sing-off and went into top 36.
    But the big thank you should go to the producers. Why? If they stuck with Top 24 this year, I truly believed that Kris wouldnt make it to Top 24. So thanks again for Top 36 !!!

    Another comment saying Simon found Kris or Allison boring. Well, it’s not their fault that they don’t have juicy stories like deceased wife (sorry Danny to bring this up) or kissing some guys (YOU GO GIRL eh GLAMBERT !!!). Besides, it’s really up to producers anyway what kind of images they want to present about the idols.
    If Simon is dying to know about Allison or Kris, why dont go to backstage and talk to them???
    Or read some news about them online, there are many. But again according to Simon, he never reads anything online.
    So to listen to Simon talking about Kris and Allison being boring is very biased. He’s so ignorant. He said to Matt to put himself outside the Idol world, but really, have Simon himself lived outside the Idol world???
    Ok … I rant enough today … :)

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    I love both these contestants as everything I think Idol should stand forà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’finding amazing raw talent and turning them into stars. Allison is raw but potentially the best à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“singerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of this group. Kris is a musician and a song interpreter and I love his underdog vibe.

    I so agree at this. If AI has one of these two (hopefully Kris) win this thing, it will show them that the show is not contrived and that it really is potential ground for the people like Kelly Clarkson to be discovered.

    This year AI made a change from Top 24 to Top 36. Therefore, they needed people to make-up numbers, thus the sing-off was introduced (I didnt follow AI 1-3, so I didnt know if sing-off happened there). Maybe most of you didnt know, but Kris Allen faced a sing-off. But of course as you know, Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ sing-off wasnt included in the footage but you can see the pics of the sing-off in the AI website. The funny thing with Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ sing-off à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ he and the other guy sang in front of the judges one after another while both were in the room and both were singing with mic!!! No explained stated but I think à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ from Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ early video saying that much of the critics from the judges ealy on that he was lacking confidence during performance thus the sing-off with mic was to see whether heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s capable to draw out his charm or not. Thank God that he survived the sing-off and went into top 36.

    Woah, is this true? Kris had to do a face-off? Woah, now I’m really glad he made it this far. If he weren’t in, I would think I’d be supporting Adam or Allison right now…

  • sbalk017

    I want Danny’s @ss to be shock-booted out of here. This will not happen, and I will be saying goodbye to one of my two favorites. I hate the bus.

  • Cakenbake

    Good Luck to the two underdogs/darkhorses Kris and Allison.

    They are both young and fresh and would work in today’s market.

    Simon is stuck in the 1990s.

  • annabelina

    To be honest, the next few days after the results show, I was feeling waves of emotional exhaustion from the whole season hit me. Not because Adam was (showcased) in the Bottom 2, but because Kris and Allison actually made Top 4 … because if this A/D finale is really inevitable, I’m just happy they were the last two standing, and I know at least one of them will make Top 3. I’ll still be vote splitting even though it’s probably a bad idea, but I can’t for the life of me figure out who I’d be more upset to lose. All I can gather is that I’ll be disappointed either way, so it’ll most likely be a rough two weeks.

  • cmheart

    so predestination is not always destiny.

    Hah…in this case… I hope (but sadly doubt) so.

    And I completely agree with you on Danny sleepwalking his way through the competition. It’s amazing how he has had 8 weeks of completely mediocre performances, and one “decent” performance has got everyone buzzing again. Argh.

  • Cakenbake

    I would love to be a fly on the wall when Simon Cowell’s Personal Assistant informs him that Vote For The Worst just picked his favorite Danny Gokey AS THE WORST and we are only in the top 4.

  • idolrofan

    Adam peaked too soon, anything he does now is either OTT or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢selling out to the balladeersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢.

    I don’t believe so. David Cook’s performances on Idol last year followed a similar pattern: his “peak” (most notable performances) – Hello, Billie Jean and Always Be My Baby – came quite early in the competition. Always Be My Baby was the latest, and it was at Top 7. Other winners have had their most notable performances early, too.

    That being said, I think Adam still has more than a couple of tricks left in his bag…

  • colette

    (Simon) says Allison and Kris have boring personalities. He said Danny is good, but would only have a chance to make it in the U.S. because of his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“appealà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . He thinks Adam could be an international Star. He does have Danny winning though because of the American appeal/back story/etc.

    Am I the only one who finds Simon’s boredom boring?

    Let me admit, I think he’s the most unpredictable and interesting and influential judge on the panel — not just by default (tho that’s part of it) but by his carefully cultivated cantankerousness.

    But he’s also sort of repulsive, like a neo-PT Barnum. He wants novelty, drama, just to keep the public buying tickets to the sideshow.

    They’ve constructed this season by deliberately presenting some people as more “boring” than others. Kris’s apparent natural sweetness and goodness may seem bland to Mr. Cowell, but why not make any mention of the interesting stories coming about his travels to poor countries and how that shaped his character?

    Allison is apparently a real pistol, to her high school pals. And she won some other TV contest a while back, so she’s more sophisticated in terms of show biz than they’ve ever let on.

    Adam is inherently dramatic. He could be the first Jewish-gay Idol, and he’s a novel and flamboyant entertainer. And Gokey’s backstory can be trotted out at the right moment for the young-widower-still-grieving plotline they may impose again at some point.

    I don’t believe any of this is diabolical, it’s just “reality show” show biz. Remember that this isn’t simply a talent contest, in the way they used to exist on TV, at the Apollo in Harlem, etc. Sure, personality played a role. But when the teenage orphan Ella Fitzgerald tried out at the Apollo, so poor she had to borrow a pair of men’s boots so she’d have something on her feet at the audition and too plump to be considered a beauty, her voice blew everyone away and she won handily.

    Let’s remember that “reality shows” today are about re-making reality into fantasy. That’s why when writers on some of the programs had a strike, a lot of people were amazed. They accepted as “reality” what was carefully edited to fit a narrative assembled by writers working from the raw footage and the carefully cast “characters.”

    Sorry to go on at length. I just leave y’all with one parting memory: remember when Mr. Cowell told a certain candidate he had no charisma? That was David Cook.

  • Natasha

    VFTW’s pick doesn’t really affect anything this week. Danny was going to be in first place so now he’ll just be in first place by more votes.

    The race is for second place and it’s between Adam, Allison and Kris. I think it’s wide open. Allison has been in the bottom three the most but she’ll do well with the rock theme. Kris has a huge fan base and he’s been gaining steadily. Adam has a big fan base on paper but he obviously has way too hard a time getting his fans to vote for him. In that sense he has a very weak large fan base. It’s impossible to predict with these three but I think if Adam sings with Kris he’ll be doomed due to vote-splitting.

  • steve

    VFTW-the hate mail will be fun to read.Cant wait for VFTW to post that mail.
    :thumbup_tb:

  • abbysee

    And I completely agree with you on Danny sleepwalking his way through the competition. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s amazing how he has had 8 weeks of completely mediocre performances, and one à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“decentà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance has got everyone buzzing again. Argh.

    Just add Danny to the survivors of Armageddon, along with cockroaches and Cher. He’s a survivor. Sigh.

    I have a real silver lining though. I am not sure we’ve seen the best of Adam Lambert……therein lies the rub, will his best beat Danny’s sudden surge? Now I am going to take my obsessive ass to sleep.

  • oddobserver

    “Adam peaked too soon, anything he does now is either OTT or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢selling out to the balladeersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢. ”

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe so. David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances on Idol last year followed a similar pattern: his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“peakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  (most notable performances) – Hello, Billie Jean and Always Be My Baby – came quite early in the competition. Always Be My Baby was the latest, and it was at Top 7. Other winners have had their most notable performances early, too.

    That being said, I think Adam still has more than a couple of tricks left in his bagà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    idolrofan: Your mouth to Adam’s ear….(ewww….that’s sounds so Kara DioGuardi) Hope you know what I mean. :lol_wp:

  • NOLA

    I would love to be a fly on the wall when Simon Cowellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Personal Assistant informs him that Vote For The Worst just picked his favorite Danny Gokey AS THE WORST and we are only in the top 4.

    VFTW supported Carrie Underwood Top 3 to Finale.

  • ppwars

    I would much rather be pleasantly surprised than disturbingly disappointed. My view is that no one has a lock; so, I stand to be pleasantly surprised. I think most all of the contingencies have been covered, and that each of the finalists has one or two scenarios that get them by this week.

    I think the most important factor this week is performance as it relates to new/casual/and uncommitted, performance based voters, DUH. Song choice and costume will be Alli’s biggest concerns. Does she go with her head or her heart? Kris’ challenge is presentation. Gokey’s is to remember his lesson learned from Foxx. Adam’s is to balance the theatrics.

    Slash may prove to be the least helpful mentor of the season. It is clear that he came on board with a set agenda backed by the producers. It seems that Adam is the only contestant to get an endorsement. Anybody else incensed that the impartial mentor make such a public comment? It’s not really a factor in an of itself.

    I think Alli will get the least help from Slash, but will be very receptive to his suggestions. If necessary, Gokey will have enough sense to hold his ground. Kris is versatile enough to work around any problems. Adam will benefit the most as he and S are buddied up and will work it all out. Have there been any women mentors?

  • cay

    I don’t see Allison as an underdog at all. She has as much professional experience as Archie did last year. She’s been competing in some way most of her life, won a star search, had a record contract. Music people in LA already know about her. She was not an unknown coming into this contest.

    Having the most TV experience than the rest, I predict her to handle the next few weeks like the pro she is. I think she’ll sail into the finals with Gokey and then it will be the battle of the little girls vs cougars/grandmas.

  • Cakenbake

    VFTW supporter Carrie Underwood Top 3 to Finale.

    Sorry, but Danny Gokey is no Carrie Underwood.

  • adamlover

    i adore adam of course and will be voting only for him…hopefully all adam fans will not let what happened last week happen again.

    why is it probable that other people will get the votes that used to go to matt. maybe their favorite is not there and they wont vote for everyone.

    no matter what, this should be an interesting couple of weeks. i just watched the group number again from last week, and they are all so talented.

  • lukien

    Yes it’s true that Kris faced a sing-off, I didnt make it up.
    Just check the pics in the AI website.

    Anyway I think this year’s AI Top 4 are the best in term of performances and variety.
    All 4 have consistently delivered good performances. Noone really had been thrown under the bus anyway from all judges.
    Besides, only this year we have:
    1. drama (read: theaterical) queen who sings like there is no tomorrow (yummy!!!)
    2. church wordship leader who dances goofily, is so obnoxiously unfunny (kissed by mum on the cheek in front of the world (yes … the world not only in America coz AI has gone global, I’m not American) at the tender age of 28!!!), whose wife passed away (I feel fo you, Danny, my condolences … belated one year), whose friend Jamar whom he hugged and hugged and huged suddenly missing from the audience for weeks now …
    3. red-haired powerhouse who happens to be Hispanic American and only 16 err 17 years old (Jordin Archie = Allison)
    4. and there is Kris, the essential heartthrob of the season (the only thing lacking is that he’s shorter than Ryan hahahahaha) whose voice is not big enough but he makes it up by singing with certain genuity and passion. Any of you who says that Kris doesnt have the voice should listen to his original recordings prior to Idol … it definetely proves that you dont have to do vocal acrobatic or growl like Gokey to have a good, enjoyable record. Besides, Kris writes his own songs and plays multiple instruments.
    AI is all about the SINGING competition … but good singer means freaking vocal acrobatic or growl ???
    I beg to differ.

  • Soapbox0916

    I am not convinced that Danny gained any fans from the last performance. I think he has the same steady loyal fan base that he has always had from the beginning.

    Normally, Danny falls somewhere in the middle for me, but I actually hated his last performance. Probably the arrangement is what I hated though. I own several great versions of the song and Danny did not cut it compared to my own music collection. Not fair I know, but he did not win me over.

    I think Danny had the advantage with votes splitting five ways, but eventually the other fan bases that overlap are going to catch up to Danny eventually. If Danny does make it to the finale, for instance, if someone splits between Adam, Kris, and Allison as favorites now, this means that by default that the person is going to be voting for whoever is the other contestant in the finale with Danny. Just because Danny has not seen the bottom 3 does not mean that he will be the last contestant standing.

    I am also not convinced that the votes between all of the contestants are all that different between top and bottom. Danny goes in with the perception of being the less vunerable. Danny has a steady fan base, but if fans of the other three contestants manage a surge in voting, Danny could be the shock boot.

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    VFTW supporter Carrie Underwood Top 3 to Finale.

    You know what, you were right. Everyone was thinking Bo would win. Vonzell had the same predicament as Kris now being the likeable singer with a good voice. Now I’m scared for Kris big time.

    But then again, in retrospect, I sorta agree that Carrie really should’ve won and been the puppet of AI. But she did produce good songs. Oh well…

    EDIT: And can’t I mention at how Slash wants a rock and roll feel for the whole thing. Maybe they can’t do what they did in disco week where it didn’t even feel like disco…this makes me fear even more for Kris.

  • shuey

    check out this adam fan,,,,,lol…so funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-li7bAOHltE

  • Cakenbake

    Yes ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true that Kris faced a sing-off, I didnt make it up.
    Just check the pics in the AI website.

    They never showed that did they, but then again they didn’t show much of Kris…lol

    Yet he has used all of his musical talent to bring himself this far. Plus he picked songs that others wouldn’t.

    I also think this is more than a mere ‘singing’ competition. It is also a personalty contestant and talent contestant. Contestants have to pick up more fans then just their own after they leave the show. They have to be likable and know music. They also have to have appeal with a broader audience that crosses the different ages.

  • lukien

    Actually I’m happy VFTW picks Danny as their fave this week coz see what happened to the last 3 picks? Scott, Lil & Matt … they went out as soon as VFTW picked (read: jinxed) them. Hehehehehe so wish the trend (read: jinx) continues and Danny will be out this week. Last week so-called shocking B3 was a preview for this week’s blockbuster event: “The SHOCKING elimination of the Gokey” !!!
    Hehehehehe don’t take me wrong, I don’t have anything against both Gokey & Glambert. But at this point of competition I have to choose side … and I choose Kris & Allison (actually I have chosen both of them as my No.1 & No.2 ever since after SF G2 huahahahahahahahahahha)

    GO KRIS !!! GO ALLISON !!!

  • anna in vegas

    Great as always MJ. One of your best statements ever, regarding Adam…….”the voice America loves.” No writer could have said it better!

  • Trina

    VFTW also picked Taylor and he ended up winning.

    I don’t think VFTW is the least bit meaningful in the grand scheme of things, but even not counting them I think Danny’s fanbase is being sorely underestimated and I agree with MJ that he isn’t going anywhere this week.

  • Heart

    Great write up, mj! I agree with your point of view! These next few shows are going to be the best yet! I’m getting so excited!

    It was a slow start to this season 8 with the Top 36 format, but once the Final 13 shows started flowing, it’s been so entertaining this year for me!

    Extra fun this year with the addition of the AI Entertainer of the Year: Adam Lambert! and a plus: He’s a super nice and grounded guy on top of being uber talented!

  • lovecert

    I find it hard to picture Allison advancing further unless Simon thrashes her and she cries on stage.

  • MsAdamEve

    I’m very worried for Adam. He’s a star so he can get people to buy his music, but people who vote are not necessarily the same ones who buy. He also seems to have a strong international base of fans who maybe adding to his sales and online searches….also does not translate into votes.

    There is an Adam-Kris-Allison vote block at the moment. This is the cool block.

    Then u have the conservative vote for Gokey. He benefitted with Lil and Anoop going home.

    This week will be the most important week. I think either adam or kris will go home and whichever one stays will win AI8.

    It is also after all, AI. In Canada, the only one who has a chance is Adam so it was hard at first for me to wrap my head around any of the others winning. I have to remember that the US is more conservative than we are and that this could hurt adam. You guys are king of producing pop artists. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that….just that adam doesn’t really fit the mould. But it’s this fact that will make him an international star. Boy this is hard.

    It’s wide open b/w adam-kris-allison. I think gokey wil make f2 but he won’t win b/c the cool block is larger than he is.

  • Jx223

    I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see either Danny or Adam leaving next week. Adam is going to have peeps voting for him full force after his near elimination last week. And Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s strong but silent fan base will continue to vote for him as they always haveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    I agree. I don’t think either one of those guys are going anywhere next week. I think that unless Allison does poorly, there is a strong chance that Kris will be the one that goes home. Allison will be in her wheelhouse next week, so I could see her doing well and performing better than Kris does.If this happens, then I think that Kris will probably be out.

    And then there’s the duets, three powerful belters and Kris. He could very well pale in comparison with whoever he’s singing with, unless he can come up with a really good arrangement that will suit his voice, along with whoever he’s singing with. But I really do think that he could be the one going this week.

    And I also believe that he was the 2nd lowest vote getter this week instead of Adam, I believe that he was teetering on the edge of elimination last week. Plus Allison is the last girl standing and that could work in her favor. I think that Kris is the one that is most at risk for being eliminated this week.

  • jammasta

    Personally, I want an Adam shocker elimination. To be honest, I haven’t met anyone who would buy his album, myself included. The wail isn’t good for an album since it’s grating and indulgent, but the guy should stick to performing. But I don’t really think it would be a “shocker”, to be honest. Almost every performance of his is a “love it or hate it” performance. Unfortunately, those who do love it pretty much explode all over it. He also has yet to win me over as a balladeer. Mad World and Tracks of my Tears were definitely awesome, but his If I Can’t Have You was good until that scream turned the performance into complete bull crap. I know I sound harsh, but the idea of it being emotional was completely wrong in my opinion due to a stupidly inserted scream. Amazing how that could bring an entire performance down and not even one person seems to call him on it.

    Danny Gokey is the kind who’s underrated by many people here but overrated by the casual voters, producers, and judges. None of his performances have really been that bad. But I don’t like the raspy vocal too much either, although it does fit better with my musical taste than Adam’s. And correct me if I’m wrong, but it wasn’t really him who pimped the dead wife, it was the producers who like to just fail and turn these musicians into money over quality. It’s a good thing David Cook was able to escape that for the most part (especially involving his brother, R.I.P.), even though I personally wasn’t his biggest fan. But sometimes it seems like the producers were always at Archie’s throat. At the same time, I was somewhat surprised nobody really pulled the vocal paralysis card during the top 12.

    Allison is going to be a rock star. Since she’s going to be a rock musician, there’s probably nothing that’ll make me buy her album any time soon, since I don’t like rock music. Maybe listen to one or two songs on occasion, but nothing else. It’s kinda the same as Adam, but I find her better as a straight-up musician.

    The producers want an Adam/Danny finale. Personally, I want Kris/Allison. I think they’d have better musical careers. Danny will probably fade away, I don’t see him making a CD of music I’d buy. It would sound really 80s or something. Adam’s just not interesting as a musician (although he is one hell of a performer) with his overuse of the wail (get this off my TV please) and generally OTT performances. That, and his idea of an album (glam rock/electropop) is a bad combination.

    As for Kris and Allison, Allison will be a great rock star girl. I don’t mean to really pull the age card, but being only 17 and having a voice as powerful as many people decades older is good, she can have an amazing career. That, and she seems like a fun, strong enough person to not let the media destroy her young life with stupid scandals. Kris is just laid back and smooth. Nothing too extravagant, just simple with a great, chill voice and talent for arrangement. Somewhat like Brooke White and Jason Castro. Two of my three favorites last year (other being Archie), they didn’t try to WOW the audience as much as they had fun and kept it mellow. Sure, they didn’t really make new arrangements like Kris, but they were great with instruments and vocals. I really think he should come out on top.

  • Jx223

    Woah, is this true? Kris had to do a face-off? Woah, now Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m really glad he made it this far. If he werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t in, I would think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be supporting Adam or Allison right nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    It’s true. He had a sing off against Kenny Hoffpauer, the young kid who sung “I’m Yours” by Jason Mraz in his audition. And what was interesting about the sing off is that unlike the sing offs we saw on the show, they both sang in front of the judges and each other. Instead of each one leaving the room and singing individually.

    And they also sung with a microphone, while the other contestants in the sing offs we saw on Idol didn’t use one. I saw this sing off in some photos on the AI website.

    I shudder and cringe to say this, but in view of the fact that Danny really wants to win, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gonna predict that GOkey will somehow or other pull a stunning performance, with a trick like oh, he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢suddenlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ finds his lower register, or some other previously unseen ability.

    I actually hope that Danny does knock it out of the park this week. This season has ended up being pretty predictable and I think that if Danny knocks it out of the park on Rock week and does really well, that would be unexpected, and unpredictable.

    For me if that happened that would shake things up in a good way. And also I don’t dislike Danny. I am not a fan of his but I think that he is a good singer, and like Valentin432 stated that he should not have been eliminated from the show based on the performances he has given so far.

    I agree with Valentin, that he has not been the worst singer on any of the past performance nights we have seen so far. And I think that he is deserving to be in the top 4. Also, I prefer him to Kris and I want to see him outlast Kris.

  • Heart

    TWOP poster reported a Adam song clue (don’t know where it came from, but fun, obscure, cryptic clues usually mean it’s from Dadam)

    The clue to Lambert’s solo is: Jim Carrey and Marge Simpson

    Another poster guessed:

    My wild guess is Somebody to Love

    Homer Simpson loves Jefferson Airplane. Jim Carrey sang Jefferson Airplane’s Somebody to Love in one of his movies.

    So, that equals Queen’s Somebody to Love?

    I would be all kinds of happy if this was true! The song would fit in Adam’s love songs theme this season.

  • reeboks1

    i dont think VFTWers really vote that much, if at all. i think it’s just more of a “fun to read” thing. but how many of them do you think really sit on their phones redialing idol for hours?? not enough…

  • Heart

    Darn! Above clue isn’t from Dadam, so it’s probably not true. These are the rest of the probably fake clues:

    slash was floored by the kids talent. total mf shocker. don’t want my ass kicked or I’d just give you the songs. maybe someone can figure them out…

    gokey- video games and larry the cable guy
    lambert- jim carrey and marge simpson
    allen- red sox and charlie’s angels
    allison- blame canada and elvis
    duos: lambert/allen- vanilla ice
    allison/gokey- beautiful lady and weird al

    Hope mj has someone going to rehearsal Tuesday!

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/idolchatter/2009…l#uslPageReturn

  • Jx223

    Personally, I want an Adam shocker elimination

    I don’t think that Adam is going anywhere this week, but I think that if Allison does really well this week, stays around and does really well, the following week then maybe we might get a shock boot of Adam at three. I think that we will most likely get the Danny/Adam finale, but I think there is a small chance that Adam could be out at three.

    And I also think that if we get a shock boot this year, that Adam could possibly more likely be the one to get the shock boot instead of Danny. Danny has a fanbase like Archie did last year, they are large and non complacent and I think that like Archie’s fans did for Archie, they will get him to the finale.

    I think that Adam has a large fanbase, which had many people splitting votes last week that was one of the biggest reasons why he was landed in the bottom three.

    But I also think that Adam is still sinking and swimming on his performances, moreso than Danny. Sometimes Adam’s performances are all around crowd pleasers and sometimes they are “love it or hate it” performances. And he needs to be careful about that. Especially at this stage in the competiton, when the casual voters have a lot of power and could be the swing factor in who goes home or not.

    I don’t think that he can afford another “Ring of Fire” type of performance, and I don’t think that he will give us another one of those. But I’m not even sure if he can afford another “Born to be Wild” type of performance at this stage in the competition.

    He might be able to get away with that type of performance this week, since it’s Rock week, but I don’t know about beyond that. And for some reason, I get the feeling that quite a few people weren’t feeling his “Feeling Good” performance last week.

    I thought that was a good vocal, but for some reason I get the feeling that quite a few casual voters didn’t really like that performance that much. And at this point in the competition, getting as many votes as possible is very critical including getting as many casual votes as possible.

  • Jx223

    gokey- video games and larry the cable guy
    lambert- jim carrey and marge simpson
    allen- red sox and charlieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s angels
    allison- blame canada and elvis
    duos: lambert/allen- vanilla ice
    allison/gokey- beautiful lady and weird al

    If these clues are true, then I think that Kris and Adam are singing “Under Pressure” as their duet. I don’t know what other songs the rest of the clues are hinting at.

  • JenG

    I don’t think those clues have any validity to them. But man, Under Pressure would be such a rockin’ duet.

  • oddobserver

    Ok, I’m going to do the wildest guesses just based on the wild clues given above, just for fun!

    Okay, could Allen be singing “Tessie”? Apparently it’s also in the movie Fever Pitch, starring Drew Barrymore (charlie’s angel) and is about the Red Sox? I hope not, sounds gawdawful! I can only hope it’s too current to be allowed!

    Gokey – “All Jacked Up” by Gretchen Wilson or “Route 66″ (Route 66 was featured in Cars, which Larry the cable guy voiced)

    Hey, don’t thump me if I’m wrong!

  • oddobserver

    ^^Time ran out to edit the above post, so continue here.

    Allison/Gokey – can be lots of songs, Weird Al Yankovic has parodied several songs by artistes as varied as Queen and other female artists, and songs with reference to beautiful ladies in their titles.

    I’m favouring “Stop dragging my heart Around” by stevie nicks and tom perry. Even sounds like Allison and Gokey.

  • Jx223

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m favouring à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Stop dragging my heart Aroundà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by stevie nicks and tom perry. Even sounds like Allison and Gokey.

    I think that those two could sound good singing that song together.

  • sillypraguer

    I hope that Allison and Kris understand how amazing it is that they’re in the final four with so little exposure in the early shows. I think Kris has been a shock to the producers, and it’s a tribute to his *artistry* (that’s for you, Kara) that he’s still around. Great job, both of you.

    I think, hope, that Danny doesn’t have a chance to win this thing, and here’s why: nice kids always win. Seriously, they are people who come across as really nice on TV! Last year we got 2 great humans as the final 2, and I think we might see it again this year. We’ll see.

    I’m not saying that Danny isn’t super nice in real life, but his TV persona is just not as amazingly kind-hearted as the other 3 remaining contestants. He might really step it up vocally and deliver performances like last week until the end, he might. But I think he’s a goner at some point.

  • kookies

    America just has to remember – every time they cast a vote for a grieving widow that uses his oh-my-wife-is-dead story, they’re ruining someone’s dream of making music.

  • Kath77

    MJ, luvs ya, but Adam ‘scaring the crap’ out of the country because he wore sexypants once or struts down a lit staircase? Please.

    Adam, don’t change a goddamned thing.

  • Lisa

    lambert- jim carrey and marge simpson

    Rolling Stones?

  • KrazeeK120

    I just…can’t imagine a season sans a shock boot. Alexis was shocking, I guess, to a certain extent. But it wasn’t like, OMG SHOCKING!!!!

    We got a “shock B3″ but I think it’s past time for a shock boot. Of Danny Gokey. Please.

    (Wishful thinking, I know. But I will continue my wishful thinking until he’s gone.)

  • amiroamor

    Ok here’s my dream result show on Wednesday.

    1) Ryan divided the kids into 2 groups; Adam, Allison and Kris in one group and Danny is left standing alone. Just when we thought the trio is in the bottom 3, and Danny is the top vote-getter, Ryan would announce “Sorry Danny, it’s the end of the road” :D :D *parties all night*

    2) Adam and Danny in one group, and Kris and Allison in one group. Of course, everybody thinks Krallison are the bottom 2, but it turns out the other way round – Danny eliminated :D

    I prefer dream # 1 coz I like the other 3. Although very unlikely, but hey, one can dream right? Hehe.

  • bean99

    I agree with Mj that it’s down to either Kris or Allison going this week. I’m thinking Allison will stay as the only girl left plus she should do very well with rock week. I know she’s getting every one of my votes and I’m going to pump up the texting as well as dial idol. Kris is the weakest singer left and it will show up in the duet no matter who he sings with. I’m really not sure if Matt’s votes will go in any one direction so can’t say it will favor Kris over the rest.

    I hope that either Danny or Allison gets the pimp spot this week with Adam going first. I doubt it will matter as much since they’re doing duets so order won’t be the typical advantage/disadvantage.

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    Ok hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my dream result show on Wednesday.

    1) Ryan divided the kids into 2 groups; Adam, Allison and Kris in one group and Danny is left standing alone. Just when we thought the trio is in the bottom 3, and Danny is the top vote-getter, Ryan would announce à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Sorry Danny, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the end of the roadà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  :D :D *parties all night*

    Some wishful thinking there but I agree, I’d want that too. We’re due for a shock elimination now…and it just seems so good if it was done to Danny. He is the poster boy of AI other than Adam. If it were Kris or Allison…not so shocking anymore given so many predict either one is going home.

    And don’t forget…Kris and Allison has outlasted 9 other people who were pimped from the beginning and we knew since the auditions. They must show that no early exposure can really get you far!

  • Lambertika

    Here’s the thing…and let’s be real…we all LOVE the drama during these last few weeks, and I don’t mind Adam being in the bottom 2 last week. He SHOULD feel a little pressure. I am certain he reacts very well under pressure so we should be looking for him to bring his A game this week (as if he hasn’t all through the competition)…can’t wait to see what he will do. It’s that feeling of excitement about what Adam is going to do this week that tells me he is the best AI performer this season. I have been a fan of the show for years, think some pretty great singers have emerged (good people as well and I love that in particular about AI). BUT, Adam is truly something else. He has mad vocals and knows exactly what to do with them and then you couple that (which is enough to win) his crazy good looks, ability to work the audience right into his performance….AI has never had anyone in the competition who can do that week after week. He has soared through every genre of music that has been thrown at him and left us wanting more. PLEASE… so drama, smamma…..I just want to see him and hear him…..that’s the true mark of a winner…can’t get enough! I feel robbed because he hasn’t been signed a long time ago..he is absolutely amazing!!!

  • sweetie99v

    I hope that either Danny or Allison gets the pimp spot this week with Adam going first. I doubt it will matter as much since theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re doing duets so order wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the typical advantage/disadvantage.

    Order never meant anything anyways. If you’re good, people will remember you. If you’re bad, people will remember you, and if you’re just so-so, people will forget you.

  • sweetie99v

    MJ, luvs ya, but Adam à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢scaring the crapà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ out of the country because he wore sexypants once or struts down a lit staircase? Please. Adam, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t change a goddamned thing.

    :clap_tb:

  • weareallinnocent

    Anybody else incensed that the impartial mentor make such a public comment?

    You mean when Jamie Foxx said that Kris Allen was his “No. 1″ and he was ready to make an album with him? Yeah, THAT was infuriating! :-)

    LOL So Slash says that they all can sing their asses off, especially Adam. Whatev… Like this is something that everyone on the planet didn’t already know.

    I hope they all do well this week, and I hope Gokey Goes. The latter will not happen, so I’ll have to be satisfied with the former. And yes, I am amused that VFTW selected Karaoke Gokey, but only because knowing that they did has to really get under the Gokester’s skin, even if it thrills him for purposes of the competition. Man, I’m mean this morning! Sorry Danny, you’ve just not impressed me and, like others note, it bothers me that you’ve simply coasted into the Top 4 based on something other than hard work and merit. :-(

  • sweetie99v

    What if allison had the highest votes last week.

    That would be absolutely shocking…. even more shocking than if its true that Adam was actually in the bottom 2…………

  • Dr. Tracey

    Personally, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather see an Adam/Allison or Adam/Kris final. But I think an Adam/Danny final is inevitable. They both have the fan bases and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s obvious TPTB want it bad. Methinks two buses are parked at the CBS lotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’one is for Kris, the other for Allison.

    My thoughts exactly.

    I’ve been hoping all season that Gokey would go home and upset tptb’s apple cart but it seems inevitable he’s going to be in the final two. The only thing i’m absolutely 100% sure of though is that I won’t be voting for him.

  • Tess

    I feel that something that has been overlooked so far is that the theme for the week is “Rock”. For the first time Adam isn’t going to be odd man out concerning the themes and the “Prejudices” of the casual viewers. Unless all of middle America lives under a rock, they have to know that Rock’s very essence is the fact that it tends to be OTT. And Slash is going to be pushing that fact in his mentoring….besides per one classic definition of rock: vocals are usually backed up with a guitar, a bass, and drums no harps allowed.

    So we now have Adam and Allison singing in their element on a theme night. They don’t have to sing a ballad to be relevant to the viewers unless we have a lot of really stupid viewers.

    We also know that Rock covers a lot of territory and that there have been a lot of terrific arrangement songs in the rock world, especially in the 70s. If Kris can find one of those old, classic, slow it down songs that showed up on most great Rock albums he’ll be able to handle the theme nicely.

    Danny, bless his little “I have an excuse for everything” heart has probably searched through every Contemporary Christian Rock catalogue to come up with a cover of a rock song that is blasted away during evangelical church services. This may help him or hurt him. I would think that many viewers don’t want their rock songs to be preachy and to sell a message, they want them to be edgy and bordering on controversial.

    I’m not making any predictions from here on out until I see the performances since I truly believe that given the “right” circumstances any of the four contestants could be safe or sorry. We no longer have 2 of anything….all of the remaining 4 are very distinct in their personalities, their looks, their styles, their vocal ability, their charisma. I think on results night (unless someone really tanks) Ryan’s comment will be “This was one of the closest votes in Idol history”.

  • Cindyy

    I disagree with you, actually I don’t think Matt was out performed by anyone last week. I did amazing, in my mind and really put his passion into that song. Of course, this is just my opinion.

  • clearone

    So we now have Adam and Allison singing in their element on a theme night. They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to sing a ballad to be relevant to the viewers unless we have a lot of really stupid viewers.

    Sadly I think AI does have a lot of stupid viewers.

  • praepos

    ‘I hope that Allison and Kris understand how amazing it is that theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re in the final four with so little exposure in the early shows. I think Kris has been a shock to the producers”

    The voting may reflect annoyance with the producers to some extent. The pimpage has become too obvious this year. Fans like a level playing field.

  • Tess

    The pimpage has become too obvious this year. Fans like a level playing field.

    Fans may like a level playing field but from what I see the casual voter doesn’t. Danny is ONLY where he is at because of his backstory. Every person who I have ever talked to about AI this year says the exact same thing: “Oh, but Danny’s story is so heartwarming, and he is doing all of this for his wife”. No one ever comments on the fact that Danny has a good voice, or that he is relevant, or that he can sell tons of albums. No its just lets give him something nice because its so sad that he lost his wife.

  • cwg509

    I will stand by what I said, though, that if Adam pulls another ROF type performance on Tuesday, he will lose a lot of votes.

    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam will ever be pulling another RoF performance on the Idol stage after the reaction he got. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s smart, obviously wants to win, and knows how far to take it. I can even see him potentially playing it a tad safer this week after his bottom 3 scare. Just a guess thoughà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Agree. Did you see the look on his face? He does not want to go home. With 2 songs, one will be a rock ballad (might be the duet). Plus, like someone else said, the rock voice will be more accepted on rock week.

    What I would give to see Gokey attempt a rock wail on Tuesday! It will be a fun night.

    ETA: No way would Adam do 2 Queen songs.

  • praepos

    “I feel that something that has been overlooked so far is that the theme for the week is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Rockà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . For the first time Adam isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to be odd man out concerning the themes and the ‘Prejudices’ of the casual viewers. Unless all of middle America lives under a rock, they have to know that Rockà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s very essence is the fact that it tends to be OTT.”

    OTT in what way? It’s too easy to blame Adam’s failure last week on a prejudiced public. It may well be he just wasn’t taking his own talent seriously enough.

    This week should be interesting. We’ll see if Adam does his Las Vegas act or actually rocks. At its best Rock is not about showing off or camping it up; it’s seriously aggressive and defiant.

  • praepos

    “No one ever comments on the fact that Danny has a good voice, or that he is relevant, or that he can sell tons of albums. No its just lets give him something nice because its so sad that he lost his wife.”

    As the weeks wear on the contestants come into clearer focus. Kris’ talent rises to the surface, Allison’s fundamental niceness becomes more evident, Adam’s campiness starts to annoy, and Gokey’s backstory becomes less important–especially as he’s seen instigating food fights, etc. He grows increasingly boorish week by week.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Adam, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t change a goddamned thing.

    If he wants to WIN, he’ll tone it down.

  • Tess

    At its best Rock is not about showing off or camping it up; ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s seriously aggressive and defiant.

    That would be rock at it’s best, but since only 1 in a hundred rock performances measure up to that standard its a tough path to follow. I haven’t seen a concert that truly exemplifies that description in 30 years.

    Besides, I think that Adam resides more in the “glam” rock category and that genre’ has been campy and OTT since its onset.

  • clearone

    If he wants to WIN, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll tone it down

    I agree….and from the look on his face in that bottom 2 (or their idea of a bottom 2) last week, he wants to win. I suspect we’ll see a toned done Adam. He can amp it back up after AI is over

  • praepos

    “Besides, I think that Adam resides more in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“glamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  rock category and that genreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ has been campy and OTT since its onset.”

    True. But there’s a line that can’t be crossed. Not that Adam necessarily crossed it last week–but he came close and reminded his audience of ROF–which they didn’t like, if we can go by dialidol which showed him plummeting from an easy lead. He wore a white suit last week–but the public sensed rhinestones and feathers. He needs to stay away from that.

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    Oddly, I do expect Adam to be less of his showy self after what has happened last week. I don’t know but Adam might compromise himself too much. But after what Slash said, I think Adam’s going to kick it up a notch and pull off the passagio again. I’m not so sure if Slash was amazed by the vocal or the passagio so don’t quote me on that.

    Kris shouldn’t have to have a hard time with rock choices. It is 70-80s rock. It’s not as if it’s all OTT and metal. Good ol’ Rock and Roll has so many branches that I don’t think Kris would not be able to find a niche.

    If anything, Adam and Allison could be in danger at their niche. When David Cook performed Dare You to Move, he got a low approval rating in WNTS. Also, everyone expected Matt to be in his element in Rat Pack week and yet he still stumbled. Then you have Melinda Doolittle who did GREAT in Queen week despite not being a rock singer. We should not under or over estimate the contestants at this point as they’re all good. Heck, Kris might even surprise us with a heavy metal song and rock it out really well. He did a good job singing his part in the Journey song in the Top 9 Results show. We just don’t know yet. We’ve come to a stage where everything is harder to predict.

  • Tess

    Hopefully all of the contestants really want to win, Matt Giraud aside. And, I am sure that many of the contestants “know” (either from the web itself or from friends and relatives) what “the voters” have and are saying about them and their performances.

    It’s funny how different each season can me. Season 5, a winner is crowned, who to me (and possibly only me) was the most absurd contestant I had ever witnessed. I never understood his appeal and thought every performance was hideous and extreme. His mannerisms annoyed and downright insulted me. But alas, his “out of the box” performances won him votes if not long lasting fans and support.

    Season 6 the best vocalist goes out third even though she sang the “ballads” that are usually eaten up by the voting masses and a strange, egotistical, and weird beat box performer takes second. Go figure that the voting masses would embrace someone so different than the perceived norm.

    Season 7. I know that many say that this was a great year, but in hindsight I can remember songs but not performances, unless there were screw ups.
    (First time I’ve ever realized that). I couldn’t tell you if David Cook ever moved away from his guitar and his mike stand. And, bless David’s heart, I will always feel that he won by riding the coat tails of Chris Daughtry.

    Season 8. Based on the previous seasons I don’t have a clue who will win. I know who I like, who I’ve bought downloads from, whose performances I will remember, but since the AI voters have been all over the boards during the past few seasons I’m at a loss to really understand what they want.

  • sauer1

    All I can say is I hope that Adam’s fans are out in force because he is teetering. He is at the point of “damned if you do and damned if you don’t”. I think he is the only one that has to worry weekly as to what he should do. Ballad vs. OTT. I personally love each way but he can lose fans if he goes a little too over the top. Come on it is rock week. He needs to be able to go to a rocker way. Please keep your votes coming and no more vote splitting.!!! That is critical to help him make it to the final 3.

  • sweetie99v

    At its best Rock is not about showing off or camping it up; ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s seriously aggressive and defiant.

    Which fits Adam to a tee. He hasn’t compromised his artistry for people who consider him “Las Vegas” or “showy”. LOL

  • sweetie99v

    Adam got this far by being Adam. There’s a reason he’s the best selling/talked about/written about Idol. Its because he’s different. Adam needs to continue being himself. He hasn’t lost it yet…… Besides, the only people i hear who say he needs to “tone it down” or he’s too showy are those who like one of the other contestants, particualrly Allison fans. Thats interesting in a way…..

    Seriously people, this year is the Adam Lambert Show. Him winning or losing is not going to change that………

    Besides, I think that Adam resides more in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“glamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  rock category and that genreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ has been campy and OTT since its onset.

    Actuallly, I see Adam as more of a pop artist with a rock edge to him. Sort of like Michael Jackson. Adam is more pop than some want to realize….

  • clearone

    Besides, the only people i hear who say he needs to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“tone it downà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s too showy are those who like one of the other contestants,

    Uhm not true. I think he needs to tone it down if he wants to win and I have nothing invested in any of the others. I wouldn’t mind if Kris or Allison happened, by some miracle, to win but I’m not invested in them in the least (other than if one of them duets with Adam then I care A LOT because it reflects on Adam)

  • sweetie99v

    Uhm not true. I think he needs to tone it down if he wants to win and I have nothing invested in any of the others. I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind if Kris or Allison happened, by some miracle, to win but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not invested in them in the least (other than if one of them duets with Adam then I care A LOT because it reflects on Adam)

    Through my eyes it is true. With the people I talk to, plus blogs/articles I read most of those who dislike Adam say he needs to tone it down, which is a matter of preference/opinion. Most of the criticism the other contestants get are more construcive. For example, enunciation problems (Allison), sounds like losing voice (Danny), weak falsetta (Kris).

    People say Adam needs to tone it down and stop walking down the stairs like its fact. I think a lot of people mistake their opinon with being fact, and believe their opinion has more weight than someone elses’. Unless you’re a judge or producer I disagree with that assessement.

    I forgot who said the famous quote “I’d rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.”. Its obvious Adam loves and is comfortable with who he is. I don’t know him personally, but the energy he gives off does not seem the type that would want to win this thing being someone other than himself. Adam is an artist – not just a singer, and he is going to piss a lot of people off for that, while a whole lot of others love him for it. He got as far as he has being himself. I pesonally don’t think he should change it, but then again, that is just my opinion….. LOL

  • praepos

    “Season 7. I know that many say that this was a great year, but in hindsight I can remember songs but not performances”

    How do you separate them? How do you separate Imagine from Archie or Billie Jean from Cook or Hallelujah from Jason? Season 7 had personalities and “moments”. This year there is less stress and fewer trainwrecks and better themes–and yet the result, even with Adam, is boring. Maybe the show’s just getting old, but the tinkering with the format isn’t helping.

  • praepos

    “People say Adam needs to tone it down and stop walking down the stairs like its fact. I think a lot of people mistake their opinon with being fact, and believe their opinion has more weight than someone elsesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢. Unless youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a judge or producer I disagree with that assessement.”

    The only real fact is that Adam didn’t score well last week–and it was the week he went OTT. That’s not just opinion. Facts are facts.

  • http://absinthedreamers.blogspot.com/ Starrlight

    Over the Top is subjective. I didn’t think the Staircase/Feelin Good number was even remotely close to being over the top. Born to Be Wild/RoF…those were over the top. IMO.

  • Tess

    but in hindsight I can remember songs but not performances

    I know that Archie sang Imagine, and Cook sang Billie Jean, and Jason sang Hallelujah etc. but I cannot, for the life of me picture the performance. I don’t know if they sat on a chair, or danced across the stage, if they used their instrument or not. I can remember Chris D. and his strut and mike-stand, I can remember Fantasia sitting on the floor and some other performances. It’s not a bad thing that I can’t remember, it just is. Because of who I am and what I personally like (which is a visual performance) I can play an Itune of Adam or Allison and I can remember the exact circumstances of their performances. I’m sure with time that will fade, too, but I’m just a multi sensory person so I enjoy that in the performers I like.

  • Michelle

    Seriously people, this year is the Adam Lambert Show. Him winning or losing is not going to change thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    This is true and also why, for me not being an Adam fan, this season has been stale and underwhelming. When it’s not “omg look what Adam did this week” it’s “omg Adam’s in B2″ except now it’s been conveniently decided by many that B2 suddenly doesn’t actually mean “bottom 2 in votes tabulated this week by individual contestants” anymore so Adam actually “just” B3. Or something.

    Besides, the only people i hear who say he needs to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“tone it downà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s too showy are those who like one of the other contestants

    Strategically, fans of other contestants should want him to ham it up as much as possible, since those performances are the ones that lose him the casual vote (though he may not know it when he reads online cause the vocal portion of his fanbase absolutely LOVES those OTT numbers and gush about them everywhere).

    There’s lots of casual voters that just start tuning in around now cause there are less choices to have to weigh, and they are curious to see what this season has wrought. They will less affected by backstory and pimping history and will judge completely on performance. So the kids have to play now as if it’s to a new audience each night, and not just indulge their fanbases. So if they are playing the game, Adam should tone it down, Kris should try to stand out, Allison should let them dress her pretty (like standards night) and Danny should sharpen up his songchoices and not be all goofy in performance.

  • colette

    I’ll be away on Tuesday night and out of computer-shot. Anyone know how I can watch a whole episode on a computer? Is there a site that does that with Idol?

    thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/nokking nokking

    Actuallly, I see Adam as more of a pop artist with a rock edge to him. Sort of like Michael Jackson. Adam is more pop than some want to realizeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

    sweetie99v, this is my thought exactly. From the first audition I always thought he is the MJ type of artist, whole package, stressing on performance and entertainment value. I went to MJ’s concert when I was a teenager and that was the most entertaining ever.

    MJ, I agree with your assessment. However I also think that since everyone thinks Allison will do well this week, the pressure is on so much more for her. And from past experience we know contestants may not necessarily peak in their destined-to-be theme week.

    gahhh is it too early for me to bring out my Gokey voodoo doll??? Shoot me now….

  • Tess

    Oh for the good old days of Idol when I was never invested in a contestant. I would have thought these blog sites very hilarious. Now, I read each comment and weigh its pros and cons, do I agree or disagree and why. Too funny, but I love it. I truly believe, and you can shoot me if I’m wrong, but I really don’t think that there are many “casual” voters left by this time in the season. And if there are I don’t get the sense that they would power vote for anybody. Maybe a handful of votes…you can get really bored with voting after 5 minutes….for someone they particularly liked that night but not much else. People pretty much have their favorites and I think what has to happen is that some stimulus has to get the voter to really power vote that evening.

    And that stimulus may be positive (a great performance) or negative (a bad review from the judges) or it has to be in regards to another contestant, i.e. so and so blew the pants off of their song tonight…I better vote for my guy a ton because so and so is going to get a ton of votes.

    I think it is idealistic to think that the best perceived performance of the night gets the votes. That may have been the case before we got down to the top 4 but it won’t be the case from here on out. And, unless they already liked someone else before, a voter whose pony is no longer in the race has already made up their mind who they do or don’t like. This performance ain’t going to change their minds.

  • ppwars

    I find it hard to picture Allison advancing further unless Simon thrashes her and she cries on stage.

    Simon may have completely broken Alli at this point, the MF. She almost cried last week. He attackted her after, under the circumstances, her most remarkable performance. He bated her with his question. She paused, giving a gracious smile to a cheering audience, then a smile to Simon with a perfect aspect, glowing personality, and thoughtful and most appropriate answer. Then he crushed her – with calculated severity. She is certainly beaten down by now, and she may have personality on her mind more than performance. As she timorously responded wednesday : what can I say?

    Make no mistake, he has tried to hurt her where a 16 year old girl can be hurt the worst, literally. If she has any self esteem left, or confidence, he will crush it Tuesday.

  • sweetie99v

    Make no mistake, he has tried to hurt her where a 16 year old girl can be hurt the worst, literally. If she has any self esteem left, or confidence, he will crush it Tuesday.

    No. Simon will give his opinion like all of the other judges. I think Allison is handling herself well, no matter what her age. Lil is like 7 years older than Allison and Allison has shown waaay more maturity.

    The entertainment industry is a tough business. Not everyone is going to like you. Its better to learn that early on.

  • sweetie99v

    I think it is idealistic to think that the best perceived performance of the night gets the votes. That may have been the case before we got down to the top 4 but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the case from here on out. And, unless they already liked someone else before, a voter whose pony is no longer in the race has already made up their mind who they do or donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. This performance ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to change their minds.

    Yup. This! :clap_tb:

  • Gigi3

    Just saw this clip of Adam being filmed while leaving dinner. He handled himself well, but I’m sure this type of thing will be a big part of his “new life” :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xzwEEGPdcE

  • http://dcmjlive.wordpress.com dcmjlive

    Gigi…love the video. His composure there is great!

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be away on Tuesday night and out of computer-shot. Anyone know how I can watch a whole episode on a computer? Is there a site that does that with Idol?

    thanks!

    Uhm, this site you’re on…shows all performances. Well I can’t say it’s the complete episode but it’s good enough for what you need to hear. If it’s not enough, check out watch-american-idol.com

    I think it is idealistic to think that the best perceived performance of the night gets the votes. That may have been the case before we got down to the top 4 but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the case from here on out. And, unless they already liked someone else before, a voter whose pony is no longer in the race has already made up their mind who they do or donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. This performance ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to change their minds.

    I’m agreeing too with this one. And honestly, you sometimes see that you’re either an Adam fan, a Danny fan, a Kris fan, an Allison fan, a Kradam fan, an Adison fan, a Kradison fan or a Krison fan… just saying.

  • ppwars

    Simon has without fail calculated his words to hurt Alli the worst and to impede her progress. He has been unrelenting despite her improvement. His attempts to ruin her are patently obvious. She came into the competition with almost disabling nervousness, and has progressed in spite of it all.

    She has demonstrated a charming personality. As much as any of the others, if not more. He certainly picked the weakest quarry to prey on. It’s just a game to him. He ignored her amazing performance of Papa…Stone, one which drew a standing O from Smoky nobody seems to remember). on and on.

  • weareallinnocent

    The only real fact is that Adam didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t score well last weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’and it was the week he went OTT. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not just opinion. Facts are facts.

    Actually that appears to me to be a conclusion (that his scores solely reflect his performance, people’s perception of it, and that people voted accordingly) drawn from a mixture of fact (lower score) and subjective opinion (OTT.)

    Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. But make no mistake, the above-quoted view is no more fact than is the view that his placement in the bottom merely reflects voter complacency and vote splitting. Both views set forth conclusions drawn, and speculative ones at that. :-)

    ETA:

    I think it is idealistic to think that the best perceived performance of the night gets the votes. That may have been the case before we got down to the top 4 but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the case from here on out. And, unless they already liked someone else before, a voter whose pony is no longer in the race has already made up their mind who they do or donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. This performance ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to change their minds.

    Tess, I agree.

  • sweetie99v

    Actually that appears to me to be a conclusion (that his scores solely reflect his performance, peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s perception of it, and that people voted accordingly) drawn from a mixture of fact (lower score) and subjective opinion (OTT.)

    Maybe youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re right, maybe youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not. But make no mistake, the above-quoted view is no more fact than is the view that his placement in the bottom merely reflects voter complacency and vote splitting. Both views set forth conclusions drawn, and speculative ones at that. :-)

    Thank you. Finally someone who knows the difference between fact and opinion!! :clap_tb: :clap_tb: :clap_tb:

    LOL

  • praepos

    It’s a fact that Adam did not score well last week. And it’s also a fact he was OTT. The assumption that these two facts are not related is a possibility, but also a stretch. The same thing happened when he performed ROF (according to dialidol). In each case the drop was precipitous–from a lead position to a precarious one. Apparently Adam loses fans when he camps it up.

  • tessa

    With Matt gone, I think an Adam/Danny showdown for the Finals is just proper. They are the 2 better vocalists and performers left.

  • http://absinthedreamers.blogspot.com/ Starrlight

    OTT is subjective. Just like the fact that I think Gokey works better than Ipecac for inducing vomiting is a subjective opinion.

  • weareallinnocent

    And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also a fact he was OTT.

    As Starrlight has said, better than I could ever hope to, whether he was or was not OTT last week is a matter of opinion. You consider the performance to be OTT. I don’t. Our respective views are our own, and therefore, subjective. If reasonable minds could not perceive the performance differently, then the opinion would be an objective one, but it still would be an opinion.

    But again, Starrlight captures it better, in my opinion of course. :-)

    ETA: Thanks Starrlight, and (whispering) I’m one of those nutjobs referenced on that other thread too! (Don’t tell… lol) And, that’s our favorite Cook studio too! Fantastic~

  • http://absinthedreamers.blogspot.com/ Starrlight

    Psst…Innocent..

    Huge Cook fan! Loved that song the best of all his studio versions.

  • Michelle

    I think it is idealistic to think that the best perceived performance of the night gets the votes. That may have been the case before we got down to the top 4 but it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the case from here on out. And, unless they already liked someone else before, a voter whose pony is no longer in the race has already made up their mind who they do or donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. This performance ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to change their minds.

    I still think casual voters far outnumber the hardcore fanbases. That 45 million votes isn’t coming solely from the few thousand (at most) that follow the show online. Adam and Kris in B3 this week showed to me at least that fanbase can only get you so far. If the vote totals are very close, casual votes will make the difference.

  • Gigi3

    Wait, what? Adam last week was OTT? Sweet Jebus, I’m a 53 year old grandmother and even I thought it was FAB.U.LOUS. It was awesome from the first note. Do people not like being entertained? Do they prefer boring performances? Give me lights, give me beautiful young hot guys in shiny white suits. Give me angelic voices with piercing high notes and unbelievable glory notes. Bring it on!! I was totally entertained and moved by his performance. It that was over the top then DO IT AGAIN, Adam. I’ll have another serving of that pie.

  • Tess

    Gigi3….apparently anything other than sitting at a stool or standing in front of a microphone is OTT where Adam is concerned. Oh, he can’t do that either, because he never moved from the spot in front of the mic when he sang Ring of Fire. So we are limited to sitting on a stool for everyone of Adam’s performances. How sad.

  • sweetie99v

    apparently anything other than sitting at a stool or standing in front of a microphone is OTT where Adam is concerned. Oh, he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do that either, because he never moved from the spot in front of the mic when he sang Ring of Fire. So we are limited to sitting on a stool for everyone of Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances. How sad.

    Exactly Tess!! People who don’t like Adam will say the way he talks is OTT and theatrical. Its VERY sad.

    Some people thought Mad World was OTT. How can a performance be over the top when you’re sitting in a chair for half the song? Its not Adam’s fault he has more stage presence sitting down then the rest of the contestants have altogether. But hey, people only hate on you when you’re good, so Adam must be REALLY good if all people can say is he has an ugly tongue and needs to “tone down”. Maybe he should sing behind the screen?? That way no one will see him. Somehow, even then I have a feeling some people will still say he’s OTT and needs to tone down. lol

  • weareallinnocent

    ^^LOL So true Tess, and to my mind, that’s a statement that communicates to me, “Don’t do anything that might make me think you’re gay.”

  • sweetie99v

    If people think Adam is OTT. What on earth will they think about Slash???? People who don’t like entertainment and showmanship should probably tune out this week……….. LOL

  • praepos

    Oh, come on, be honest. As Simon said, citing Adam for being theatrical is like citing a cow for mooing. Sure he can be OTT–his makeup and plucked eyebrows are usually the tipoff. He may wear white suits, but people imagine feather boas. People don’t mind if he’s gay–but they mind if he’s queenly.

  • sweetie99v

    Oh, come on, be honest. As Simon said, citing Adam for being theatrical is like citing a cow for mooing. Sure he can be OTTà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’his makeup and plucked eyebrows are usually the tipoff. He may wear white suits, but people imagine feather boas. People donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’but they mind if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s queenly.

    Simon also said Adam is the only contestant on the show this year that could be an international star, even though Simon thinks Danny will win……………

    Simon also said that Adam has the best Entrance by a contestant, and told Ryan he can no longer use the staircase……………….

    Simon Cowell is a lot of things, but homophobic he is not…..

    Come on… lets be honest here, YOU think entertainment means gay/queenly. You do know that the entertainment industry is full of GLBT people??? LOL Anyways, just remember that walking down the stairs in a white suit is queenly to you. To some people its walking down the stairs in a white suit….. some find it entertaining.

    Remember: Opinion does not equal fact…….

  • praepos

    “If people think Adam is OTT. What on earth will they think about Slash???? People who donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like entertainment and showmanship should probably tune out this week”

    People don’t mind entertainers who are OTT per se. It’s HOW they go over the top that matters. There’s a difference between somebody like Slash and Liberace. Both are entertaining. One you take seriously as an artist, the other you don’t.

  • sweetie99v

    People donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind entertainers who are OTT per se. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s HOW they go over the top that matters. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a difference between somebody like Slash and Liberace. Both are entertaining. One you take seriously as an artist, the other you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

    Again, that is your opinion. People like me find Adam just as entertaining, and a serious artist. Your opinion is not fact.

  • sweetie99v

    Simon was on Ellen’s show yesterday. He thinks based on world-wide appeal Adam should win and that the staircase entrance is what put him in the bottom 3. Here’s the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei6FqXYds1M

  • weareallinnocent

    As always, our opinions tend to reveal more about ourselves than the subject.

    Case in point:

    People donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’but they mind if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s queenly.

    I don’t mind either. But based on your clarification, I’ll rephrase my previous opinion.

    to my mind, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a statement that communicates to me, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do anything that might make me think youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re gay.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    should read:

    To my mind, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a statement that communicates to me, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do anything that might remind me that youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re really gay.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    There, all fixed! :-)