The Fix is in For The Top 4? Seriously?

Yes this is ridiculous.
I wonder why so many people are eager to believe the show is rigged.

I saw this in your headlines and completely discounted it, too. I think you’re more in the know than some unnamed “female staffer.” Also, what are “A successes?”

And I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think there are staffers running around naming names and claiming the fix is in. If they are, they are lying, or off their meds.

You hit it right, MJ – “Idol Staffer” plus off meds = Pauler! :shock_tb:

Heh. I agree with MJ completely this is complete unsubstantiated BS. It couldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been made up by any knoller who follows Idol.

So I used to read a lot of gossip magazines before I weaned myself (mostly, heh), and this article reminds me so much of those typical fabricated gossip articles about celebrities. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all anonymous sources, with a lot of illustration and inside storytelling so ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a fun read, but you know ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s BS. You know, the articles that say stuff like, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a close friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of Jennifer Aniston tells Us/Star/OK exclusively that yes, she still calls Brad, and the mag will go on to tell us that one time, Angelina picked up the phone when Jen called, and her face went dark, and she had a really à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“seethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  reaction or something equally dramatic-sounding. I mean, you read that shit, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like LOL, A) whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s this close friend, an intern who made up the story? and B) did they bug the Jolie-Pittsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ phone to get the play- by-play of this alleged phone call? Actually, were they standing next to Angelina, since apparently, someone from the mag saw her frickin expression? Haha. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Journalismà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  at its best– just someone with an active imagination and a keyboard. I think NYDN should troll around the grassy knoll thread on TWOP for their next article. At least the posters there wouldn’t be so clueless as to compare Adam to Daughtry, so maybe the next one would sound a tad more credible.

This story is ridiculous indeed.

I agree MJ. Yeah, that’s probably who TPTB want to be in the final 4, but that will never happen. Out of those four I don’t see Lil making it at all, unless she pulls out a performance or two on the level of “Summertime.” The other three should make it, unless they begin to falter. I’m hoping Allison is the other top 4 (I also hope she wins the whole thing).

Adam similar to Daughtry? Oh hell no. I like them both, but they are very much so not the same.

ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s possible thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s at least one stealth TCO on that list who isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t yet a front runnerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Matt Giraud or Michael Sarver perhaps.

Lol, just lol

This article is a joke. Maybe I should write one too. :lol_wp:

Countdown to Ken Warwick’s press conference….

10…

9…

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Unfortunately I don’t find it the least bit hard to believe the top 4 are already selected but if that’s the case then I do find it hard to believe some AI staffer is telling everyone who they are unless she’s been in Paula’s meds.
IMO it’s all a bunch of hogwash, Dirty Dancing Danny is more like Taylor Hicks than Adam Lambert is like Daughtry, lmao!!

I think NYDN should troll around the grassy knoll thread on TWOP for their next article.

:laugh_tb: I think they already did. Problem is, they lost something in translation. Maybe they used too many big words on TWOP. SO true that the knoll theories, whether you buy them or not, make way more sense.

Like I said in the other thread, the whole thing brought the lolz, from pointing out the obvious (ZOMG, the producers have favorites) and calling it shocking insider info to the names on the list of the “fixed” top four (really, did we need a fake staffer to tell us that Alexis, Adam, Danny and Lil are likely frontrunners at this point, cuz I never would have guessed. ) The best part, though, was the Adam won’t win because he’s too Daughtry reveal. Yeah, cuz THAT makes it all more believable.

In light of this, um, piece of cutting edge investigative journalism, wouldn’t it be diabolical to use the judges save earlier on for someone who isn’t Danny or Adam or Alexis or Lil? Best way to disprove the “fix.”

I agree that the notion that some “staffer” would have this inside information is not very believable. BUT I do think they know who they want to advance. Whether they can achieve the desired result through pimping, editing and other manipulations or have to actually rig the thing – I don’t know.

I do think they want Danny to win and are pulling out all the stops to try and make it happen. I suppose they could change their minds but they’ve gone to more trouble with him than any other contestant I’ve ever seen.

Those 4 are the ones who got the pimp spot so far, so they could be seen as the shows’s favorites and all and they have all got a good amount of pimpage and promo.
I really don’t find it hard to believe that Adam, Danny and Lil will be top 4 and I don’t find it hard to believe that TPTB want them to be top 4 and will do everything for that to happen.
But I still think the audience has something to say and maybe someone else could come from behind and be a surprise, maybe Kris or Allison because of the younger audience.

The Adam = Daughtry part is just for the LOL.

Adam, Danny, Lil and Alexis? Really? If that turns out to be the case then it will be the perfect end to this so far miserably imperfect season.. Except for Alexis, I find the first three as shamelessly calculating and as manipulative in their performances as I do TPTB who bring us the show. They would deserve each other. As much as I’ve tried to like Adam, I now find him basically unlistenable and unwatchable with all that planned preening. I couldn’t abide Danny from the get go and now both he and Adam are Constantine to me. Lil is a lovely lady but seems to be trying too hard in a Carly sort of way.

As to the rest of the kids on the show, I want to feel connected to one of them and so far it ain’t working. I want one of them to give me the moment where they bravely shred all pretense and give me a glimpse into their heart and soul. Fantasia and “Summertime” comes to mind or Cook and “Always Be My Baby” last year. I want authenticity and honesty and vulnerability and believability. I sincerely hope one of the underdogs can pull it off soon and set themselves apart. And if one of TCO happens to give that magical unguarded performance, I would be more than happy to change my mind.

C’mon! Adam Lambert is EXACTLY LIKE Chris Daughtry EXCEPT for the hair, height, voice, former day job, home state, overconfident-makeup application, marital status, parenthood, dude-kissage, cabaret-expertise, Christian-rock roots, and probably pickup truck ownership.

And when that glammed out LA gay theater boy auditioned in Hollywood with a Cher song, the one thing Middle American shouted, as one: ” God dammit, not another Chris Daughtry clone!”

Look, they both own wallet chains! (BTW, young men, what’s with that? Won’t the thieves just carry a tiny bolt cutter?)

I don’t think they really want Danny to win. They have shown enough footage of him being a real douche to temper the pimping–maybe setting him up to be the shock boot?

If I remember correctly, the wallet chain keeps your man purse from flying away when you ride your Harley. Maybe Adam and Daughtry are both anxious about their funds in this tough economy.

The New York tabloids are not exactly famed for their probity, to put it mildly. MJ’s articles in the Post are one of the few reliable things published in that paper. This report doesn’t surprise me in the least.

Michael Sarver is NOT a stealth TCO. That boy was ALL OVER the early rounds. As a matter of fact he was shown at least as much as Danny and more than Adam. The only reason the amount that he was pimped is not apparent is because he is actually boring. There is no great back story to make him that memorable, but he was given a long story during the auditions and was shown in EVERY Hollywood round show. He was also given a super long edit during the Chair episode. That boy has been pimped beyond belief.

The only truth to the article is the fact that Paula predicted who will be in the finale. So I can easily understand why people think that Danny and Adam will be in the final four.

Last week Alexis was given the odd voting number, and I would hardly call that pimping.

Blah, stupid article.

Adam=Daughtry……….pfffffffffffft. As if.

ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s possible thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s at least one stealth TCO on that list who isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t yet a front runnerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Matt Giraud or Michael Sarver perhaps.

Michael Sarver? Really? *boggles* He’s passable at best. Meh.

I don’t think there’s a fix in, but I do think TPTB *know* who they want in the final four already, thus the total pimpage. Sure, they could swap out one of them, but they already have their ideas.

Michael Sarver is NOT a stealth TCO. That boy was ALL OVER the early rounds. As a matter of fact he was shown at least as much as Danny and more than Adam. The only reason the amount that he was pimped is not apparent is because he is actually boring. There is no great back story to make him that memorable, but he was given a long story during the auditions and was shown in EVERY Hollywood round show. He was also given a super long edit during the Chair episode. That boy has been pimped beyond belief.

This. Yes.

And still, I Do. Not. Get. It. He’s average at best, although I’m sure a really nice guy.

Michael Sarver is NOT a stealth TCO. That boy was ALL OVER the early rounds. As a matter of fact he was shown at least as much as Danny and more than Adam. The only reason the amount that he was pimped is not apparent is because he is actually boring.

Now that you mention it, that’s true. I forgot about it though because I guess he is sort of boring. Lol.

Can’t wait until tonight. I am hoping for a dark horse because if not – this is gonna be boring.

I think right now the producers have an A list, a B list, a C list and a D list.

The A list – obviously Danny and Adam. They want them in the finale at all costs right now, and likely the mechanism for the save rule.

The B list – probably Lil and Alexis, maybe Matt as well. They want them all to finish high and possibly contend if something fails with one of the two Chosen Ones.

The C list – probably Allison, Matt (possibly) and Michael. They are willing to throw them under when the fodder is gone.

The D list – everyone else. They want them thrown under the bus at the first opportunity

The reason this show works the way it does is because we get to know these kids, their personalities emerge, some become more likable, others not so much. To look at the line up at this stage and pick the Top 4 seems so ridiculous. Season 5, at this stage of the competition, Katherine McPhee was way at the bottom, Season 6 Both Jordan and Blake were not front runners and last year at this stage, Cook was in the bottom. So anything can happen!

I don’t think it’s fixed but it has a fixed feeling this year, which would naturally give rise to bogus stories like that.

I think the changes instituted this year meant that more folks slid into the finals that traditional corporate types like Simon and Kara could see signing. But the show works best when there’s a better mix and the viewers themselves find someone incredible that traditional corporate types might pass over. That’s the magic of Idol and that seems to me what is lost this year, except for Alexis, who is stupidly and constantly advised to tart up and look like nearly everyone else in the biz.

This article is LOL. And I seem to be in the minority here. I actually like Michael Sarver a lot. He is my second fave after Adam (ok so I have eclectic taste in musical styles!)

It’s funny because I was just talking to two friends yesterday who were both Daughtry fans in season 5 and Cook fans in season 7. This year, they both love Lord Gokey!!! I was shocked. In fact, when I told them Adam was my favortie, they weren’t surprised at all because I was a Taylor fan in season 5. They actually think Adam is more like Taylor because of the OTT aspect. *shrug* Everybody has an opinion!

well besides the hilarity of adam being like daughtry…

there is the “gokey is commercially viable” part.

the comedy here is high.

In fact, when I told them Adam was my favortie, they werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t surprised at all because I was a Taylor fan in season 5. They actually think Adam is more like Taylor because of the OTT aspect.

I think Gokey, more than Adam, is like Taylor.

Weird dancing. Passable, raspy voice.

Mediocre sums up this season…..and that is being generous.

And what musical was Chris Daughtry in? The King & I??
Whoever said Adam=Chris must have been thinking of that other infamous “shocking elimination” Constantine!

This mention of stealth TCO make me thinking.
They maybe even think they have this year contest planned all out.
Because the problem is there is no one in the competition with the potential to be stealth TCO.
Even if someone like Kris pull off a stunning performance, I don’t think it will last, because he hasn’t the voice to be memorable for a longer period.

They actually think Adam is more like Taylor

I think Gokey, more than Adam, is like Taylor.

Deep inside, aren’t we are ALL a little Taylor Hicks?

Except when we’re Daughtry.

Ugh. I don’t want them to be the top four. But seriously. That’s so predictable! I mean, it sure is damn possible with the whole “Judges Save” rule… but I can’t picture any of them winning. It’s weird… I love almost all of the contestants, and want them to do well… but the only person I can actually SEE as a winner is Allison Iraheta. Just an opinion, but it’d be CRAZY not to have her in the top four.

Adam and Chris, that is toooooo funny hunny

Cà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢mon! Adam Lambert is EXACTLY LIKE Chris Daughtry EXCEPT for the hair, height, voice, former day job, home state, overconfident-makeup application, marital status, parenthood, dude-kissage, cabaret-expertise, Christian-rock roots, and probably pickup truck ownership.

And when that glammed out LA gay theater boy auditioned in Hollywood with a Cher song, the one thing Middle American shouted, as one: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  God dammit, not another Chris Daughtry clone!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Look, they both own wallet chains! (BTW, young men, whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with that? Wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the thieves just carry a tiny bolt cutter?)

:lol_tb: GOOD ONE

^ anijsch, that’s the beauty of a stealth TCO – no one will except it at the moment

I certainly didn’t see Cook’s Billie Jean coming and I’m not even a fan but he really surprised me that night!

I don’t believe the show is fixed so much as I believe there are simply five very obvious standouts from the get go. I’d put Allison ahead of both Lil and Alexis though. I think she’ll give Danny and Adam a run for their money, but – let’s face it – it’s likely to be a Adam-Danny finale, with Adam taking the title. That part isn’t necessarily earth shattering news.

maturin says

They actually think Adam is more like Taylor

I think Gokey, more than Adam, is like Taylor.

Deep inside, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we are ALL a little Taylor Hicks?

Except when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Daughtry.
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ROFL ROFL!

If I remember correctly, the wallet chain keeps your man purse from flying away when you ride your Harley. Maybe Adam and Daughtry are both anxious about their funds in this tough economy.

:lol_tb:

It’s clear Megan Joy is winning this show.. It will be Megan and Michael Sarver in the finale.. oh and Adam is losing this week and Danny the following week.

I’m not buying anything. I know the judges and producers have their favorites as of now but the whole “It’s all setup” theory isn’t something I believe even though of course they have the power to do these things if they wanted to.

maybe Adam’s wife … :wink_ee: …is a former strippaH.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“group of people that the last four are going to be Danny Gokey, Lil Rounds, Adam Lambert and Alexis Grace,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  said our insider.

Yes, these are the four that I believe will make the top 4, hence the above comes as no surprise to me.

My gut feel is Adam Lambert will be a shock elimination ( like Latoya London, Jennifer Hudson and Daughtry ).

I also think that the top 2 who will duke it out in the finals will be Danny Gokey and Alexis Grace.

I’m almost certain that we’ll see the following :

TOP 2 : Danny vs Alexis
#3 : Li’l Rounds
#4 : Adam Lambert
#5 : Scott Mcintyre
#6 Matt Giraud
( Scott will edge Matt in a duel of piano players due to the handicap factor).

As for the rest, your guess is as good as mine.

We shall see….

They actually think Adam is more like Taylor

I think Gokey, more than Adam, is like Taylor.

Deep inside, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we are ALL a little Taylor Hicks?

Except when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Daughtry.

LOL. Or, in the case of Matt G., JT (argh). Taylor’s name is being invoked quite a bit this year isn’t he? Dunno if that’s a good thing for him or this season…

HAHAHAHA
Adam = Chris?!?
HAHAHAHA

The NY Daily News is definitely not the most credible source, so I don’t believe this at all.

Adam Lambert = Chris Daughtry? In what universe? LMAO

Cà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢mon! Adam Lambert is EXACTLY LIKE Chris Daughtry EXCEPT for the hair, height, voice, former day job, home state, overconfident-makeup application, marital status, parenthood, dude-kissage, cabaret-expertise, Christian-rock roots, and probably pickup truck ownership.

And when that glammed out LA gay theater boy auditioned in Hollywood with a Cher song, the one thing Middle American shouted, as one: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  God dammit, not another Chris Daughtry clone!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Look, they both own wallet chains! (BTW, young men, whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with that? Wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the thieves just carry a tiny bolt cutter?)

LOL!!! You nailed it! :thumbup_tb:

I’m hoping for Allison for the win. I thought maybe they might be in search of a bonafide Latino singer. Allison would fit the bill and she is a lil’ spitfire. They could definitely make an Idol out of her.

Danny is boring. Adam is too over the top. Michael is a nice guy but not an idol. Lil is too much like other singers out there.

Alexis or Matt might just step it up.

Deep inside, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we are ALL a little Taylor Hicks?

Except when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Daughtry.

If I remember correctly, the wallet chain keeps your man purse from flying away when you ride your Harley. Maybe Adam and Daughtry are both anxious about their funds in this tough economy.

there is the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“gokey is commercially viableà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  part.

the comedy here is high.

^^^^ This is why MJ’s is the place to be. Honesty, and mass hilarity.

At this point I think everyone left has a shot. For Megan, it may be a minimal one, but it’s a shot yet the same. I do think that tptb have a feeling who they want to win, but year after year their best laid plans are foiled by the voters. This year even with their save will be no different. I don’t know who will win, I don’t even know who is TCO because I can make a case for at least 6 of them, and that is just horrible pimping, imho. It should be more apparent than that. Maybe this evening will make things clear. This article is great in that it’s a great conversation piece, but certainly it’s crap.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The producers really want it to be Danny or Alexis. They think theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re very commercially viable, have a good image and a great story.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Danny? Commercially viable? Srsly?????? And pimping your dead wife is never a good story. Sorry.

Can’t wait to read the reaction to this article. They certainly try to sway the outcome, but I can’t believe that everyone of my votes for David Cook causing Carpel Tunnel Syndrome was for nothing because he would have won anyway. I could have sworn that finale night that TPTB were trying to put Archie in the winners spot. So do they manipulate with their comments, sure. Do they fix the show out right. I don’t believe it. Plus, I don’t think that will be the top four. I agree about Danny, Adam, and Lil simply because they appear at this point at least to be the three best performers and voters are not stupid. But I am hoping that Kris Allen comes on strong in the weeks ahead and makes it to the top 4 at least. I like both Kris and Matt and think they both have a shot. Now I want to read what other people thought about this.

I don’t believe an employee is privy and has any cred with this story.

But I firmly believe the top 2 are pre-determined, complete with
saves/shock eliminations already in place.

Jersey, that’s funny because I was a huge Chris Daughtry fan an even bigger David Cook fan last year, and I am a Danny Gokey fan this year. I think it has to do with emotion and genuineness. I realize there are those who don’t like Danny, but I think he has a really nice voice, although I am voting for Kris Allen this season for as long as he is on and until TPTB decide it is time for him to go. He is also cute, talented, and has a great personality, a la David Cook.

Danny? Commercially viable? Srsly??????

I don’t think so either. I have to say that if this article turns out to be the gospel truth TPTB are on something pretty powerful.

Danny? Commercially viable? Srsly??????

I don’t get it either. I never saw anything commercial about Danny. I can’t even get a grip on what kind of artist he’s supposed to be. Pop? Rock? Soul? What kind of music is he going to make? Is he going to go the soul route like Taylor? That’s great if he does, but that’s not mainstream commercial–that’s niche.

Even though these contestants don’t usually wind up making the same type of music that they had to sing on the show (due to theme weeks), I could usually tell, with the frontrunners, where they would fit after Idol. DC and Daughtry would go pop-rock (or post-grunge rock, whatever you want to call it), DA would go pop (I don’t see how that wasn’t obvious; even Paula saw it), Jason and Brooke would go folky-pop, Michael would go soul-pop, Carrie would go country, Kelly would go pop or pop-rock, Melinda would go bluesy-soul, Jordin would go pop, etc. With Danny, I have no idea. Maybe that’s because it’s so early in the season, but Paula is already saying he’s going to sell out arenas and I’m wondering, “singing what?” Because whatever will get him selling arenas has to either be mainstream or Grobin-esque.

Well, I guess in the long shot I pretty much knew that anyway with all the heavy pimping those four received…

But I don’t know…IF this is true, I feel it really takes away something from the show.

I love to jump on the grassy knoll and discuss all the good evils of this show as much as some, but I like discussing and pondering. Having this said takes some surprise away from having a underdog swoop in and have a “wow” moment. IF this is truly the outcome, I’d just like it to play out than having it stated so blatantly. Even if there is no truth too it, I wont’ forget it and I’ll always be irked if it DOES truly play out that way.

I wonder if people catch enough wind of this article if there will be a SHOCK!bootSHOCK! somewhere before the top 4(like top 5, ha) just to throw off the truth of it…

Something sounds just so WRONG about this.

Deep inside, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we are ALL a little Taylor Hicks?

Except when weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Daughtry.

:lol_tb:

Speak for yourself honey. Deep inside, I’m a little Adam Lambert. Except when I’m Cookie. :smile1_ee:

I certainly didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Billie Jean coming and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not even a fan but he really surprised me that night!

Oh, I don’t know about that. Cook was a slow burning frontrunner from Hello onward, maybe even before that. He was even featured in those commercials that previewed season 7 singing the Brian Adams tune. I had him pegged for at least top 4 and maybe TCRU before Billie Jean. Didn’t Simon tell him he could win after Eleanor Rigby? The only surprising thing was his ability to overtake the juggernaut that was the Archuleta Express and win the whole shebang, cuz I really didn’t see ANYone pulling that off. I think Jason was the only one without any Hollywood week face time to make the top four last year, but even Jason picked up a massive fanbase in the semis with Hallelujah.

What’s more interesting to me than the pimping of producers’ faves, which happens every year, is the lack of an obvious villain edit. There was Tatiana, but she’s gone. So who’s going to be the gimmicky one who overstays their welcome? Anoop? They might try more of the we shouldn’t have wildcarded you through shenanigans, but the guy is uber popular and a little too smart to let himself be Sanjaya’d, so it won’t be easy. I actually think he has a shot at top four if he validates his big fanbase with a breakthrough performance. You can’t very well villainize a blind guy, and Sarver could have been the dude who made it through on backstory mostly who Simon turns on eventually, but then the judges seemed to love him last week. Curious. Maybe instead of Danny or Adam being a TCO, they are actually being set up as a stealth villain who is overpimped and suffers backlash?

Kidding about that last part. Mostly. Hee, I love the knoll.

*snort*

What a steaming pile of bovine feces.

Cà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢mon! Adam Lambert is EXACTLY LIKE Chris Daughtry EXCEPT for the hair, height, voice, former day job, home state, overconfident-makeup application, marital status, parenthood, dude-kissage, cabaret-expertise, Christian-rock roots, and probably pickup truck ownership.

And when that glammed out LA gay theater boy auditioned in Hollywood with a Cher song, the one thing Middle American shouted, as one: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  God dammit, not another Chris Daughtry clone!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Look, they both own wallet chains! (BTW, young men, whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with that? Wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the thieves just carry a tiny bolt cutter?)

^THIS totally made me :lol_tb: and then :clap_tb: . You pretty much summed it up right there. In what alternate universe does Adam Lambert= Chris Daughtry? Has anyone asked Chris how he feels about being compared to a flamboyantly gay over-the-top cabaret theater boy? I’d certainly like to know.

I agree that Lil is WAAAY too similar to Fantasia, but without the “Summertime” to back her up. Danny….don’t even get me started. As much as I like Alexis, she is trying much to hard to be dirty-naughty. Please. My chihuahua is naughtier than her, and all he does is piss on the leg of the chair. Michael…eh, he’s a hard-working guy with a passable voice, but I certainly don’t see David Cook passing his crown on to Sarver in May.

FTR, I’m gunning for Allison. She’d be like a young Latino rocker cross of Kelly Clarkson and Miley Cyrus. Amazing vocal chops, “commercial” (as the judges like to say), hip, youthful…. Or you could call her a female rocker version of David Archuleta. (Same target demographic, IMO.)

So whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be the gimmicky one who overstays their welcome?

That could be Megan. Especially if they save her with a wildcard.

Aside from Paula Abdul, the producers of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  have one more loudmouth to deal with on the set.

One of the hit showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s staffers is running around telling anyone whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll listen that the team of producers and judges has already picked the final four contestants à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  despite the fact that 11 kids are still battling to be the latest pop star.

The female à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“AIà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  worker told a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“group of people that the last four are going to be Danny Gokey, Lil Rounds, Adam Lambert and Alexis Grace,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  said our insider.

Reading between the lines, I suspect this is about the indiscreet staffer and not about the substance of the reported allegations made by the staffer, which even the most cynical among us don’t believe are true.

I think we are supposed to wonder if the staffer is Kara — and perhaps the point of this entire item is to further discredit and isolate her.

^^ Ahhh, I always forget Megan. You could be right. Especially since they broke out the dreaded “q” word…quirky. That could be a precursor to future “you’re interesting but lack the necessary technical skills” depimping.

ROFLMAO at Adam Lambert = Chris Daughtry. :rolleyes_wp:

But I firmly believe the top 2 are pre-determined, complete with
saves/shock eliminations already in place.

Oh, I don’t doubt that one bit, but hopefully the fans will tip their table by voting madly for someone not determined to be TCO. Taylor fans did it for him. Eliott and Jason fans pulled through, as did Jasmine’s fans. Although it is rare, it can happen

As far as the villain thing….looking around the net, it seems the set-up is:

Good guy: Danny
Bad guy: Adam

I have thought this for several weeks. I also believe TPTB want a male/female Finale which would be more interesting.

I also don’t get how Danny can be viewed as commercially viable unless they are somehow factoring in crossover appeal to the Christian market, in addition to the pop/soul niche. I really believe this is Danny’s race to lose. To me, he is the Archuleta of season 8 with the juggernaut fanbase and the total judge pimpage, although Archie was way more talented and a genuinely nice guy to boot.

Adam will finish high (and I believe he’ll be successful post-Idol) but I would be surprised if he won. There are too many people out there who just can’t get past the flamboyant theatre boi stuff.

I think Allison will be the shock boot (and maybe the one they save). I love her sound, LOVE her confidence and personality and think she has a definite musical identity (a big plus). But after a while, her songs will all start to blend together. I think she lacks the versatility to win a competition like Idol. YMMV.

LaurelG, her songs have already blended together for me. Granted, I’m not a Michael Jackson fan, and I really only knew about 4 of the songs last week, but it totally sounded to me like Allison was singing Alone. I’m honestly wondering if after tonight, I will only equate her with Alone. I liked her Alone but it was about 3rd best in the Alone on AI factor for me. I just still only hear her singing that. Hopefully she will surprise me, because I do like her voice.

Didn’t read past:

And when that glammed out LA gay theater boy auditioned in Hollywood with a Cher song, the one thing Middle American shouted, as one: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  God dammit, not another Chris Daughtry clone!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:lol_tb: LMFAO This. For.The.MFW! OMG, thank you. Now I must go refill vino for the show!

Ok, I have to come back and eat a little crow. Now, having just seen Adam sing “Ring of Fire,” I am so totally seeing the Daughtry clone. LOL

This season is AI picked from the start. Do you really believe America picked this group? Maybe a few but the judges and AI staff will make short work of that. Maybe a few more hat picked songs, some more maneuvering of the voters either directly or indirectly and the AI choice of the season already packaged and prepared will be officially launched. Maybe the CD will precede the concert tour this season.

MJ, I actually believe this. They are probably at least correct on 3 out of 4. Remember, they put Adam, Lil and Danny in the pimp spot to ensure that they made it. Let’s take a look to see what Alexis’ competition was to make it during the semifinals. Hmmm. Tatiana, Stevie, Casey. . . . looks like they wanted her to take the spot as well.

You can’t expect your employees to do the work you want if you don’t tell them what to do. Of course they know. For example, let’s say you want those four people to do well. You are gonna to tell your employees to make sure they look and sound good and that they have great lighting and camera angles. The junior directors/producers and editors are going to get instructions on how to treat the contestants and how they want them to be portrayed.

Yes, you might laugh at what is supposidly their train of thought. . . but one last point. Wasn’t Jasmine Murray suppost to be “currant?”

plus Paula already to Danny and Adam they would be in the finale.

Hey, I LOVE Megan…hope she’s not the VFTW pick. Although I’m not into tatoos, she’s cute and has a cool vibe.

the chicks, just no.

But Adam and Gokey, Simon: Team Adam, Kara: Team Gokey, I could tell right away that is what they wanted. The judges looked just as surprised as Kris’, that he made it through every week. That final 2, when Kris was called first, wow those judges were disappointed. Poor kid, at least he had Adam and Allison on his side.

wow it is so weird reading this stuff. the only constant seems to be Adam will make it to 2nd.