The Final 3 – What Should the Idols Sing? – Spoilers Included!

i always thought the final three had to redo one of their earlier songs. could they always have picked a new one not seen before? of course, i don’t remember all the top three songs only that whoever picked for elliott did a terrible job. i don’t like this week because i feel it is a sure way to manipulate the outcome. wonder how the three judges determine who will get who?

i like the picture of the top three this week.

I think that DA should sing ” Bein’ Green” by the Sesame Street Gang. His Dad would approve and even, like, High 5 (and answer your cell phone Little D — Dad’s-a-callin’)

I think Syesha should sing “I Just Want to be Your Everything” – can’t remember who sang it but I’m sure it’s her #1 choice.

And, I think, David Cook, should sing whatever he wants.

That’s what I think!

caro

i love the bein green pick :mrgreen_wp:

wonder if anyone will sit at the table like Clive used to do? can’t remember if he did it last year.

Oh man, I wonder if the TPTB want to throw Archie under the bus. I mean LONGER?!?! This boy is constantly criticized for choosing ballads as song choices, and they give him this melted-cheesetastic song?

Shelby
but the judges never criticize him. It is the highly intelligent posters that MJ’s blog attracts that know he never changes up his selections. So…….quoting Randy, this should be right in his wheelhouse.

Doesn’t matter what Sy sings…she will start out well, start screeching towards the middle and go flat on the glory note. She lacks a true soul vibe as there is no rich timbre to her voice.

David A *sigh* doesn’t matter what ballad he sings he will bore the sh*t out of me. I’m a grown woman and I don’t want a 17 year old squinting on my TV screen as he tries to impart a message of some sort..be it love or whatever.

David Cook is now rested and his batteries, recharged…I think his visit home has done him a world of good and he is READY to put a hurtin’ on the competition. Have a gut feeling that he will kill with FTEISYF! He will do it HIS way, HIS style. Having said that…I hope the rumors are not true that the producers have chosen “American Woman” for him!

Compare David A to Jordin and if he can’t stand on his own by now, then he’s not worthy.

I wish I was more interested, but, I’ll take them over last season’s Top 3. It’s been a strange idol year. Not sure I can put my finger on the reason, or, if it’s because, there have been a handful of reasons.

Correct me if I’m wrong please, but has the producer’s choice in the past been something relatively modern, as in the current Top 40 or at least generally radio friendly in the past to the point that almost EVERYONE knows the song?

Because I’m sure it’ll be some awful choice, it almost always has been.

Correct me if Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wrong please, but has the producerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s choice in the past been something relatively modern, as in the current Top 40 or at least generally radio friendly in the past to the point that almost EVERYONE knows the song?

Because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be some awful choice, it almost always has been.

Yeah, my expectations for the producer’s choice are really low…last year, they chose “She Works Hard For The Money” for Jordin (seriously, wtf) and “Nutbush City Limits” for Melinda. Blake somehow lucked out and got “This Love” by Maroon 5 but apparently that was due largely to his own connections with the band.

My wishlist for Cookie’s third song would be:
1) “Umbrella” by Rihanna
2) “Since U Been Gone” by Kelly Clarkson
3) an actual modern rock song that’s currently charting, like “Sorry” by Buckcherry or “Paralyzer” by Finger Eleven

But if that producer’s pick for Archie is true, I’m not expecting much. :rolleyes_wp:

What Cook needs to bring this thing home is a rave up rocker where he has to move those hips and just have a great time. His main problem is that he tends to the earnest and serious. Neither of the two songs we know about will ignite the stage, and have Paula dancing on the table. “Summertime Blues”, “Authority Song” by Mellencamp are the sort of thing I’m thinking.

I do love “American Woman”. He could do it.

carolina = Jason already sang “I just wanna be your everything” this year…..

Well I used to like the song Longer.

so….does the show realize DA is 17? cause what in the world is up with those incredibly old song choices? if he were a girl they would be doing the old lady comparisons…of course, he is teflon DA, where criticism cannot enter a 20 foot circle around him…

What horrible songs so far for David A. Longer is unbearable elevator music. I don’t like Cook’s songs either. If Syesha does something upbeat and energetic she might make the finals.

Following the pattern for the Season, I’ll predict both Cook and Archie have terrible nights. Three songs will really reveal the lack of versatility for both of them. Aside from Michael Johns, everyone this season is leaving on a down instead of an up. So I expect the same for the Top 3.

soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.does the show realize DA is 17? cause what in the world is up with those incredibly old song choices? if he were a girl they would be doing the old lady comparisonsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦of course, he is teflon DA, where criticism cannot enter a 20 foot circle around himà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Ya know Folk, I’m pretty sure at this point, each and every song that David A has sung was recorded before he was born. He hasn’t performed a song younger than he is yet. I could be wrong, because the thought just occurred to me right this second – so I haven’t researched the point. But, I realized that “And so it goes” came out a year or two before David was born – and it got me thinking.

I can’t come up with a single song he’s done that’s not older than he is.

Because of the themes, most have done songs older than them all season. Since Archie is the youngest, almost all his songs are probably older than him.
If the producer’s pick really is Longer, he’s a goner. It’s utter mush and reinforces him as a boring performer. Paula’s song goes nowhere as well. Based on those choices, they don’t want him as the winner. I guess the Dad is just too much to handle. (Although Cook’s songs are pretty sucky also)

and jordin used to get killed from singing “old” songs…as have many other young women on the show. i just do not get it. how is archie marketable as a 17 yr old groban?

oh and for what it is worth…i love the optimism of the posters on simons choice for cook…but wow, it is a really bad choice. now, i will try and remain positive and optimistic as many here are– that he can change it up…..but god, it is not an intuitive or good choice at all at first blush. i am sure cook was like — wtf!!!

It strange at this stage of the game we are talking about marketablity when idol has always had issues with transfering popularity with maretability. What they sings on the show has little influence on what his cd will sound like, reference Taylor Hicks and Bo Bice, and Jordin Sparks. A fan of Davids has been turning his ballads into dance remixes, they are incredible, and would be a perfect way to go.

Everyone sounds the same on their recordings cause it their voice. David’s songs actually do vary, maybe not wildly but Think of Me doesn’t sound like Angels,Y ou’re The Voice or Sweet Caroline. That is coming from one who doesn’t walk away from the tv or mute it when he comes on and who purchases most of his itunes songs.

That being said his choices suck. Paula’s isn’t bad but Longer is surprising considering his fans were hoping for something upbeat. Btw. Two of the above songs I believe are younger than David. He also auditioned with Crazy, and Waiting for the World to Change, those were his choices, or maybe his Dad’s but they were far better than the crap he has been singing, either by choice or design.

I expect Syesha to make the top two, and which ever David makes the most of their choices to take the other slot. I wouldn’t put money on either one, but the kid may just surprise.

it think it is wishful thinking that david a will break into the world of hip hop and dance with his funky grooving.

Even more than just being old songs is the fact that the lyrics are totally inappropriate for any 17 year old, never mind one as young as he is, to be singing.

From the Joel song:

In every heart there is a room
A sanctuary safe and strong
To heal the wounds from lovers past
Until a new one comes along ….

And this is why my eyes are closed
It’s just as well for all I’ve seen
And so it goes, and so it goes
And you’re the only one who knows

(Well, at least he’ll have an excuse to close his eyes!)

From Fogelberg:

Longer than there’ve been fishes in the ocean
Higher than any bird ever flew
Longer than there’ve been stars up in the heavens
I’ve been in love with you…..

Through the years as the fire starts to mellow
Burning lines in the book of our lives
Though the binding cracks and the pages start to yellow
Ill be in love with you.

From Archie? Really?

So true about the marketability. Aside from Jordin (who sells albums but its been tough), none of the past four finalists has done well selling records. I’m pretty sure Blake will soon join Taylor and Kat on the “lost their deal” line.

Lots of teen girls buy albums and a well produced one should have Archie selling just as many as Jordin Sparks. Unless the Dad wrecks his career which is a possibility.

If David A can work his R&B thing, he can get his music played on Top 40 radio.

I’ll weigh in…

I must admit, I have no idea what the Idols should sing. With no theme per se, the opportunities are endless. Hopefully, they will all be able to make smart personal choices, although I think DC and Sy will do fine with their judges’ picks.

I truly believe that DC is going to blow everyone out of the water this week. He’s only had one misstep this season (if you want to call it that). He’s taken everything thrown at him like a pro. I think the Collective Soul song is a really smart choice. It suits his voice perfectly and is a song that a lot of people know well. Even a lot of the younger viewers will recognize it, I think. (Personally, I love the song and am very excited about the performance.)

I think that Syesha will do her usual belting/screechy glory notes/flat lower register and get the same praise she’s been getting the past few weeks. She’ll be fine.

DA could struggle. Not only because of Daddy. I think he’s been sliding downhill lately and it is going to be much more apparent now that both Brooke and Jason are gone. I think America is starting to get bored with him.

DC will be amazing. Sy is invincible, it seems. DA will be left in the dust.

Personally, I don’t care about any of them, because I think this is the oddest trio of top 3 I’ve ever seen. Simon says he likes it when David Cook is the rocker, then chooses a Roberta Flack song for him? I don’t get it!

Now I understand why Jason didn’t want to do the 3 songs next week. He didn’t want to have to sing the crap they might choose for him. Good looking out, Jason, good looking out.

Let me add that I see things exactly opposite. I think outside of Music of The Night, that David Cook has been sorta coasting while David A found a little momentum. His song even on that same night was solid and it was a total remake, for which or his Dad were given not credit. The actress who sang the song in the movie even blogged about it, she loved it, and she ain’t no tween.

Skylight, I don’t understand that choice at all. I mean I don’t get it, because many say he will sing it straight up, why? Yep, that is certainly showing what he will do in the real world.

Hmm, I think the choices for David A are boring and too old for him. But I could say that about 80% of the songs he’s performed on the show this year and look where he is now, with nary a criticism about his dull song choices all season long. Neither song will be challenging for him at all and he’ll probably sail right through.

Syesha gets a pass with a song that she’s performed on national TV is a singing competition before. Whatever. Her own choice will probably be some other song she sang on The One.

David C gets a WTF choice from Simon, who said that he prefers David’s “grittier” sound and then gives him the least gritty song in the world. I think he can do really well with it, but I hope he’s not tempted to mess with it too much. He needs to just sing it straight and with a ton of emotion. Maybe just accompany himself with a little electric guitar to modernize it a bit. I don’t know. The Collective Soul song is kind of random, but it suits his voice well. He certainly sings better than the lead singer of that band. If he really didn’t know the judge’s choice until Friday morning, it’s probably still possible that he could change his own choice before Tuesday to balance out his three song set. I fear the producers really did pick something as dated as American Woman for him.

I’m not ready to make any predictions about who will make it into the finale.

sorry…just cannot see DA grooving to anything! Have two teen daughters who cannot stomach looking at him for longer than a few seconds, and wouldn’t dream of owning a CD by him. They don’t get the “hotness” factor with Cook but they think he’s cool and has a great voice.

Agree with whoever said DC need a thrid song that is upbeat- he needs a song choice with the potential to get the audience bopping their heads, clapping with the beat and and the urge to get up and dance. Defintaley NOT American woman….just too dated in style and sound.

If the producers are looking at “classic” songs from yesteryear I would actually love to hear him sing one of the following. Upbeat and not as serious and slow. I think he could rock these….

The Eurythmics: “There must be an Angel”

Dave Mason’s version of “Feelin’ Alright”

Talking Heads: “Take Me to The River ”

Bob Dylan’s Version of “All Along the Watchtower”

St.Lucia
May 12th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Correct me if Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wrong please, but has the producerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s choice in the past been something relatively modern, as in the current Top 40 or at least generally radio friendly in the past to the point that almost EVERYONE knows the song?

I’m still scratching my head over Clive’s pick of “Open Arms” for Elliott.

I wonder why the judges don’t tell David A. to take risks and change it up a bit or why they don’t say anything when he’s off-key (or pitchy as Randy would say). Just wondering.

I don’t care what the others sing, I’d just like to hear David C. sing “House of the Rising Sun”. I think he would be awesome.

Don’t forget, Jason will be on Regis this morning.

I am frustruated that archie is gonna sing 2 verrrrry slow sappy, depressing ballad songs – longer (funeral song) and and so it goes (another funeral song)!! I mean out of soooo many great songs out there, canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t paula and the producer at least give him something a bit uptempo and contemporary!! Considering paula is more into uptempo songs which she can dance to, she actually pick a super slow depressing song for archie!!! Talking about throwing archie under the syesha and cookie bus!! I am really frustruated!!

I find the judge and producer picks somewhat surprising because at this point in the competition I would have thought they would want to really showcase who the contestants are and what kind of music they will produce after the show is over (assuming they get offered a recording contract). We’ve had all the theme weeks where contestants had to show versatility etc. by adapting to a style that is not naturally theirs – why not have them sing three songs that really are in their zone, and see how they can make them their own rather than karaoke renditions?

Perhaps I’m missing the entire point of the show but I just don’t get the whole “step out of the box” thing. I do understand trying to stretch the contestants, see how far their talent goes or whether they can just sing, but seriously, how many artists out there actually cross a myriad of different genres? That’s why at the final three stage I’d like to hear three songs the contestants might just release. I wouldn’t be surprised if DC chose his song because it’s a song he really wants to sing and he thinks it will showcase who he is as an artist. I hope the other two do something similar.

Also, a question for those who have watched several seasons of the show – how much does song choice and performance really matter at this stage? Does the popularity vote take over? On talent, IMHO, looking at the whole competition (and I am slightly biased but trying to be objective) DC has been most consistent and most versatile with the genres, with the other spot being a toss up between DA and Syesha. Syesha has done better than anyone probably expected and has come through strongly the past few weeks. DA is generally a good technical singer but has had a number of blunders that have not been picked up on by the judges.

Sorry for the long ramble – and even after all that I still haven’t come up with any ideas for what they should sing!

I predict that the semi-finals of AI on Tuesday will be a lot less exciting than the semi-finals of Dancing With The Stars tonight….yet, I will be sitting on my couch sorting laundry and watching both…

At least last year there was some anticipation of when Blake would beatbox.

Now I understand why Jason didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to do the 3 songs next week. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to have to sing the crap they might choose for him. Good looking out, Jason, good looking out.

Hah! So true! I’m not thrilled with any of these songs. And um, I have nothing to contribue to the conv…

I just saw Jason on Regis and he came off quite well (and I wasn’t a fan). He seemed much saner and more focused that he did on the show. I can’t figure out why the show has done such a terrible job showcasing their personalities. It’s downright weird.

Thanks jpfan. Regis just came on here in Tennessee. I’m glad he did well. Now I don’t have to be so nervous for him and can enjoy the show.

These song choices really suck! I can’t say that I am surprised, however. The producers’ choice has always been terrible (ie Dancing in the Dark for Taylor and Open Arms for Elliot). Randy is pretty decent with his picks. He gave Taylor YASB, which, IMO, was one of his best performances of the whole season, but Paula is completely lost with what she picks. And so it Goes for DA? Ugh. I love Billy Joel, but I don’t think it was the right choice for David. I hope he chooses wisely with his pick-something more modern and up-tempo. The kid can really sing and has the potential to be great once he breaks out of his insecurity and Dadchuleta nightmare! Simon, as much as I can’t stand him, usually picks pretty good songs. SOTR for Kat was a brilliant choice and was her best performance of the year. It was also and odd choice at first, but he knew she’d knock it out of the park. I think the same goes for DC. He is so original and I know that he will turn out THTEISYF! Syesha….blah. I can’t bring myself to comment.

Because AI gets a big kick out of making fun of people. Why else do they show all those horrible auditons? That’s really getting old. But, some people only watch to see that. Go figure.

I’m going back to what KLC (Kristy Lee Cook) said after her elimination. She said they work them 15 or more hours a day, that they become brain dead, and, get very little sleep. Is it any wonder they are burning out so early in the season?
Of course, Jason is sane. HE was just worn to a frazzle, and, on top of that was very sick during ALW week. Way to kick someone when they’re down, AI.

They also do a lot of “creative” editing.

This is in response to Jpfan’s question.

If memory serves me correctly, one of the worst picked Producer songs was for Kat McPhee, “I believe I can fly.” Which what ensued after she sang it, made me lose all respect for Randy. Randy’s comment, and I am not making this up, was “Katherine, that was just a bad song choice.” Kat replied with, “I didn’t choose the song!” Randy tried to save himself but looked like an idiot.

That was hilarious when Kat shot back at him. And, you’re right, it was a horrible song choice. Those judges are useless.

The thing with song choices is that no matter what it is you gotta sing it well. If Katherine was worthy as a singer, that should have been a knock out. I mean I have seen so many divas sing the hell out of that song. That showed Kat was lacking imho.

I watched R&K as well. Jason did a good job singing, but he still plays the airhead a little bit, it’s just him. He’s an easy going, zen kinda guy.

Jason isn’t really an airhead. You’ll have to remember, this is a very shy person, who didn’t do interviews at all when he first went on AI. I think he’s come a long way. At least he can put sentences together. I’m talking to you, David A.

abbysee- Not every singer has to belt a song to be worthy. If that is the only true definition for worthiness as a singer, then there wouldn’t be much that we hear at all. Katherine, who may not have the power voice, has many vocal talents. I think that is what we saw a lot this year on idol. With Brooke and Jason, who are good singers in their own right, but when faced with trying to be versatile, they couldn’t hack it. But it’s not becuase they aren’t worthy enough of a singer. The judges always tell them to stay with their strengths and to find themselves as a singer and stick with it, but then when producers pick a song that is not their style, how can they pull it off?

When the contestants pick their own song, do they have any restrictions on their choices. Can they sing something that was already sung by them or another contestant.

Wild, I am not talking about belting. I don’t really like belters that much. As a matter of fact that is what derailed her, she thought she could belt and she couldn’t, at least not well. That song doesn’t require that much, R. Kelly isn’t a belter. Hell he isn’t much of a singer, so she should have done alot better, but she didn’t. Like the song, hate the song, but sing it well. That is how you sing a song not your style. That was actually well within her reach, she just didn’t have the proper take on it.

If memory serves me correctly, one of the worst picked Producer songs was for Kat McPhee, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I believe I can fly.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Which what ensued after she sang it, made me lose all respect for Randy. Randyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comment, and I am not making this up, was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Katherine, that was just a bad song choice.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Kat replied with, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t choose the song!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Randy tried to save himself but looked like an idiot.

TOTALLY forgot about that one! You are so right! Not one of Randy’s finer moments :shock_tb:

Is this just an inappropriate time to say I miss Jason. LOL I wonder what they would have picked for him. My guess Randy probably would have picked something like “Puff the Magic Dragon” and try to sabatoge him.

I remember in season two they chose “Smile” Ruben because he will forever be remembered for his smile. It’s kind of a depressing song…I don’t know this night can be really strange..

David C gets a WTF choice from Simon, who said that he prefers Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“grittierà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  sound and then gives him the least gritty song in the world.

And I’m willing to make a bet he gave him that song hoping he’ll add some grit to it. Cookie’s best performances have come from the most WTF song choices. I seriously doubt Simon gave it to him expecting him to go out there and sing it like Roberta Flack.

I LOVE the Fogelberg song!
That will be GREAT for Archie.
Definitely buying the iTune!

Kat was hit and miss with her vocals. When she was on, she was awesome. I guess I didn’t realize until this season, just how stressful AI is for the contestants. But, after watching Idol Rewind, Clay commented that they were so ready for the season to be over, that they didn’t care who won. They were just very tired. During the interview, Josh Gracin wanted to leave too. The pressure was getting to him. He was in the Marines, had a wife and baby, and, the grind of AI. But, he was relieved when he was finally eliminated.

And Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m willing to make a bet he gave him that song hoping heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll add some grit to it. Cookieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s best performances have come from the most WTF song choices. I seriously doubt Simon gave it to him expecting him to go out there and sing it like Roberta Flack.

Given that Simon has also assigned that song to two X Factor contestants, I’m willing to bet that he’s somehow obtained the rights to that song and gets a commission each time it’s played.

David C gets a WTF choice from Simon, who said that he prefers Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“grittierà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  sound and then gives him the least gritty song in the world.

I’m willing to bet it’s because DC brings the “grittier” sound to the song. What I’m looking for is what I heard in the vamp of “All I Really Need is You”. That’s what kind of power he can bring to the cheesiest song in the world.

A little about a lot.

1. DAs songs are way to “old” for him. That is, the songs require experience in life to interpret them, plus a young kid singing them (and he acts younger than his age) looks sad and silly.

2. THERE WAS NO JASON CONSPIRACY, nor were there weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

3. Sy has sung the Randy song in competition before. However, generally on Idol, Ms Key’s songs are the kiss of death

4. Cook’s choice seems strange, not only for the song being not necessarily a rocker song, but because Cook always kept secrets before. Is he tricking us on his real song choice?

5. The Producers have really not presented this years Idol telecasts intelligently. What happened to the 90 minute performance shows and the 30 minute elininations? Shouldn’t we know more about the Idols before we are down to 3?

I want Archie to sing “I Want You Back” by the Jackson 5. That just…hit me all of a sudden.

Don’t know where THERE WAS NO JASON CONSPIRACY came in. But, that is an individual opinion, not a fact. It can’t be proven that there was or wasn’t, so it’s always open to speculation.

There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Unfortunately, they were moved out of the country before the war.

They should go back to the way the idols were presented during season 2. We felt like we got to know them a lot better. They’ve done interviews before each show, but, it was piecemeal, and, still didn’t allow us to get to know the contestants. Who cares what their most embarrassing moment was? I wanted to meet their families, see their pets, etc.

Jason has said he was fairly represented on the show.

Good to know that while THE JASON CONTROVERSY can never be proven or unproven but only speculated upon, the whole mass destruction thing in Iraq has been cleared up.

I agree that it’s sort of a messed up season and the Song spoilers are not getting me excited for tomorrow.

LOL Jpfan. Thank-you for making my tummy ache go away.

1. DAs songs are way to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for him. That is, the songs require experience in life to interpret them, plus a young kid singing them (and he acts younger than his age) looks sad and silly.

Yes, it makes me weep for the producers. These guys complain constantly that the kids aren’t current enough and they pick moldy old songs for them? Sometimes, I think they go to the song equivalent to Walmart and just pick whatever is in the bargain bin. Look, we can get “Longer” for 14 cents, let’s get one of the contestants to sing that. It’s even cheaper than the 15 cents we paid for “She Works Hard for Her Money” last year. Woo! Remember, every penny saved brings us that much closer to a billion dollars in net revenue.

Maybe we should applaud Jeff. That snippet of “Beautiful Girls” is probably the only song we’ve heard that was written this century during the entire competition phase. Maybe he’s far from being the Stage Dad from Hell. Maybe he’s fighting for the rights of Idol fans to hear something that’s not older than 99% of the audience. Okay, he is the stage dad from hell, but it is a little ironic that we have him to thank for some modern music after all the dirges he’s had his son sing.

In other news, I officially hate Simon’s pick for David Cook. I’ve grumbled about it, and now I’m here to say I hate it. Screw you Simon. David Cook has already proven he can sing AC crap. He’s sung everything from elevator favourite “Hello” to ALW to Neil Diamond. Give us a freakin’ break. Of the entire pantheon of songs that have been written, this is the song he picks? This is the song that he picks to show that David should be the American Idol. This is what he THINKS David should be singing? What? I dont’ want to hear him making fun of crazy-old, forty year old housewives voting their fingers off. Those ladies have more musical taste in those little fingers than Simon has in his entire body including that hideous hairdo he sports. I bet if I polled people on any of David’s fansite, they could have come up with thousands of choices which would all be 100 times better than what Simon picked. Hell, Jeff Archuletta himself would probably have picked a better song for Cook to sing.

Okay, I know that David will probably be able to make this song work. But, at this point in the competition, should they still be forcing him to sing ancient AC crap? He’s already demonstrated that little skill. The same goes for David A. “Longer”? Seriously? That’s the best you producers could come up with? Randy is the only one with half a brain.

Look, Nigel, Fuller, Simon, whoever, you are all old FOSSILS. Let somebody else pick the songs next year. Somebody who listens to the radio. Somebody who can name something written in this century.

Seriously, a Roberta Flack song for Cook? Simon, you suck.

I would really like to hear DA sing something like he did in his audition..Waiting for the World to Change or Crazy. He really needs to show he can be current. I would love to hear Cook sing some Tom Petty. He would blow that up!

DA as a 17 year old Mormon teen probably has had very little life expreience…which shows when he sings. He obviously has been coached from an early age. Simply cannot understand how he appeals to teens…cuteness factor aside. Those boring boring cheesy ballads…what’s his father thinking!!! Can you imagine him on heavy rotation on MTV? Teens are fickle-doubt if he will sell well post AI.

I for one am super excited about tomorrow’s show. The last 3 standing are very different. Could really careless how the other 2 perform…just want DC to give it his all…his career truly begins post AI and I want him to leave an impression which lingers and allows for him to sell big time!

Kirsten, it is good to read a nice intelligent rant. I had my fist in the air as I read it as I agree with you.

I’ve been mulling over this rumored spoiler of American Woman for Cook, so I decided to Wiki the Guess Who to check out a little theory I’ve been harboring. You’ll never believe it, (well, sure you will), they were signed to RCA Records back in the day. I would go a step further and guess that it is in the Sony publishing catalog, too. So I guess that rumor has some legs, IMO. I’m not sure how I feel about it as a song choice. At least it’s high energy, and easily recognizable.

I would venture to guess that most of the producer’s picks are from songs in the Sony catalog. Makes the clearance issues almost a moot point. Has anyone bothered to check that fact out?

Also, since the contestants usually know by Tuesday/Wednesday what they are going to sing the following week, do you really think they withhold telling them the producer’s picks and the judges picks until Friday of that week. In that context, it seems really unfair. Talk about unprepared.

Does anyone else wonder if little David really loves singing? What I find missing from him is any joy when he is performing -I see the “performance joy” he has been trained to show, but there is not real joy or exhubarance (spelling) of a 17 year old who is having fun. I’m really hoping he doesn’t win for his sake. And I think TPTB really didn’t care what the father was doing to DA until it cost them some money. That’s all these people think about.

I’m very puzzled by Simon’s choice for Cook.

I honestly think that Simon only has 10 songs on his iPod and 3 of them are “Yo’ Face” (as someone on TWOP hilariously retitled the Roberta Flack song). He probably also has Unchained Melody, SOTR, Bleeding Love and an Il Divo song. I almost wish Randy had picked for DC, but he might have just stuck him with a Daughtry song and then told him he was unoriginal because he didn’t turn “It’s Not Over” into a rock song.

After the songs chosen for the group songs for this year (Reelin’ in the Years out of 500 possible songs? Really?) my expectations are lower than low for Nigel’s picks. Maybe he’ll give Syesha another coronation song or something. That would be cheap, no?

I could swear I remember Kat saying she actually knew what Simon picked for her before the homecoming. Am I hallucinating? It would make sense for them to be told beforehand and they just play up the wole thing with the mayor or whoever announcing it.

IIRC Cookie said on Friday he’s changing up/putting his own spin on the Collective Soul song.

I stopped questioning the stupidity of the producers when they gave Jordin “She Works Hard For Her Money.” As for Simon, he’s said Cookie is his favorite.

Trina
May 12th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I could swear I remember Kat saying she actually knew what Simon picked for her before the homecoming. Am I hallucinating? It would make sense for them to be told beforehand and they just play up the wole thing with the mayor or whoever announcing it.

I remember hearing this as well. I think their reactions are all about publicity myself.

As much as this show takes in on advertising alone, you’d think they would shell out a few bucks for some current tunes??? I don’t think it’s a matter of not getting clearance for some songs, I think it’s a matter of the almighty dollar, and, what they’re willing to pay for the rights.

I wonder what David A will sing for himself. I dont like the song the Paula picked for him.I still think it will be David A and David C.

Arch8 – You honestly think that David A. is actually going to get to pick his song????

On the other note, I agree that AI should shell out some buck for some songs, but wouldn’t it behoove (yes that is a word) an artist to give them rights cheaply, to boost sales? We have seen what exposure on AI can do for a song.

Randy has half a brain, and, less than half of a vocabulary.

I’ve never liked any of Paula’s song picks for the top 3. Good heavens, she had Clay sing, “Mack The Knife.” Her reason: To disspel the image that he was a lounge singer. So, he gets all decked out in a tux, sings, MTK, and, looks like a Vegas Lounge singer. She chose “I Can’t Get No Satisfaction,” for Bo. And, the song she selected for Elliott was pathetic.

Why not have the voters (I use that word ever so sparingly) choose songs for the top 3? Let them vote on selections. We could do a much better job.

Skylight – that’s right, dog.

Okay, Kristen, I agree with you, but have I mentioned lately that, despite Randy having half a brain, Randy blows?

When I heard the link this weekend of DC singing Foo Fighter’s Hero song, my aha moment came full circle. I love the Foo Fighters, and I think Dave Grohl is incredibly talented and a thinking rocker. I would love to hear DC sing Times Like These. But the only slot left is the producer’s pick, and they probably haven’t even heard of the Foo Fighters.

Last year, we (I) complained about there being too many mentors. And I agree that was not so good, especially when everyone had to sing, for example, Bon Jovi or Mariah Carey. I like when the contestants have to sing different genres, like “disco”, country, showtunes, rather than everybody singing a Neil Diamond song. Then contestants can trap pick new or old with each of the genres. Even for “disco.”

Regarding DA, he simply needs to go home. I agree that he did better this past week, but his breathing problems, somewhat subservient gushing at the judges, and tangled responses make me want to reach for the tums.

Well, I guarantee that any joy and fun has now been removed from the show with the booting of Jason.
I have no interest in any of the songs they choose for these kids. Why can’t they ever do anything relevant?

Does anyone know if there is a reason why we have been spoiled with DA’s producer’s choice and not DC’s or Sy’s?

Another question…are they allowed to change their own choice once it’s been announced?

I’m just looking at the bright side. Maybe I sound a bit hippie-like, but I feel that DC is going to have his best performance in a long time because he has this positive energy around him. The interviews, performances, and that big grin on his face gave me reassurance that he’s going to kick ass whatever songs they gave him. I don’t know about the other two, but I think DC is going be molten-hot lava bomb. :tongue_laugh_ee:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just looking at the bright side. Maybe I sound a bit hippie-like, but I feel that DC is going to have his best performance in a long time because he has this positive energy around him. The interviews, performances, and that big grin on his face gave me reassurance that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to kick ass whatever songs they gave him. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know about the other two, but I think DC is going be molten-hot lava bomb.

Can I get an amen! My feelings exactly!I just wish the final decision didn’t come down to speed dialing and fickle teens!

I’m tired of Syesha’s earrings. They’re always the same.

As an Archuleta fan, I am very disappointed by Paula’s choice and the producers’ choice. I like both songs, but for Archie?? He’s always criticized for singing songs that are way too dreary, and this week won’t help that any. I wanted him to sing an upbeat motown classic or something. I was hoping for “My Girl,” actually That’d be way cute and perfect for his voice!!

Randy’s Syesha choice is also awful. Yes, she’s sung it before on a show, but not well. Nothing compared to Alicia Keys. I think so far Cook has the best song pick from Simon. I think it’s great that Simon didn’t go with a more obvious rock choice.

I am hoping what you say about DC having positive energy and being on a roll is true. I also hope he has studied Daughtry to the end and doesn’t get complacent that he is the chosen one and only needs to phone in a performance. I get worried when contestants are feeling too good about themselves.

And I love Longer but not for DA! It is a simple melody, Jason would have absolutely owned this one. But I will be gritting my teeth if he starts runs and rifts and god knows what else. Also it is a love song about longevity and this kid is 17, in case no one knew. What does he know about eternal love??? I hope he at least he keeps it simple because he does have a nice voice to sing this. Dan Fogelberg is probably rolling in his grave.

I don’t like any of the choices so far but Longer makes me want to throw things! That is just cruel.

Jordin is just “18″ now and I think she did a good job of rubbing Chris Brown’s face and acting like she wanted to hump him or die during her performance on Idol this year so maybe David A can pull of some acting skills too. lol

I’m soooooo dissapointed in David C’s songs. I don’t really care what Syesha sings.

Also, a question for those who have watched several seasons of the show – how much does song choice and performance really matter at this stage? Does the popularity vote take over?

I think Top 3 week is quite important. Fanbases are already set, that’s true, but a lot of new viewers come in around this time. If a contestant can shine in Top 3 they can capture a lot of those and even convert some people who have been following but not yet committed. Last year I totally switched horses from Melinda to Blake based solely on Top 3.

I have to think the kids know the producer pick ahead of time so they can work on it. So the only surprise is the judge’s pick, and we don’t really know if they’re finding out about that just on Friday or if they’re given a heads up earlier on. If they’re smart they’re choosing their personal pick to round out the three songs.

I don’t see why two old ballads will hurt Archie. He’s done pretty well with them up till now. (sigh)

I have to think the kids know the producer pick ahead of time so they can work on it. So the only surprise is the judgeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pick, and we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know if theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re finding out about that just on Friday or if theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re given a heads up earlier on

I hope your right about that because I wonder how they have time to fit everything in and I feel sorry for them.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see why two old ballads will hurt Archie. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done pretty well with them up till now. (sigh)

That made me laugh. LOL

Well, it could be worse. One of them could have been told to sing “Do I Make You Proud?”

Hee! I would hate to hear the one Taylor turned down!

I wonder why we haven’t heard more about Syesha’s songs? (this after I said I didn’t care )

I’m psyched for Cookie. I think he’s going to have a personal best AND look like he’s having fun doing it.

Poor Archie. He has spent his whole life being railroaded by his dad, and he doesn’t know any better. No wonder he’s so awkward.

Did anyone else read in the Popwatch comments last week that possible Archie could have Asperger’s? That would explain a lot.

And I love Longer but not for DA! It is a simple melody, Jason would have absolutely owned this one.

Interesting that the producer’s choice for Archie is a Dan Fogelberg song. According to one of his exit interviews, Jason tried to get one cleared for Top 16 (80′s week), but couldn’t, so he ended up doing Hallelujah. Hey, no complaints.

Did Nigel finally decide to offer up more money for TCO? Obviously, a fodder like Jason wouldn’t get him to dig deeper into his pockets. heh.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m psyched for Cookie. I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to have a personal best AND look like heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s having fun doing it.

Poor Archie. He has spent his whole life being railroaded by his dad, and he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know any better. No wonder heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so awkward.

Did anyone else read in the Popwatch comments last week that possible Archie could have Aspergerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s? That would explain a lot.

Agree totally about DC.

WOW! The Asperger thing has gone through my mind several times when watching DA perform. The way he moves and the way he answers questions. I think this observation is spot on. I’m a teacher who has had experience with Asperger children and DA really does come across as a high-functioning young person with Asperger Syndrome. Would really explain a lot, including his father’s behavior.

Did Nigel finally decide to offer up more money for TCO? Obviously, a fodder like Jason wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get him to dig deeper into his pockets. heh.

Interesting indeed…they probably regret it after the $$ they’re gonna have to shell out for “Beautiful Girls”.

Also, a question for those who have watched several seasons of the show – how much does song choice and performance really matter at this stage? Does the popularity vote take over?

Considering what Seacrest said about only a million votes separated DC, DA and Syesha, I would imagine that there are many-a-casual viewer who vote on the performance they like on a given night. Poelpe keep questioning Sy’s fanbase-perhaps she doesn’t really have a rabid internet fanbase (those Archies on Rickey’s site are freakin’ scary!) but someone is voting for her!

Fanbases come in many types. Syesha gets votes, and they come from somewhere. While she may lack the true believers who can get overly attached to a contestant (Sorry Jasonites), her base is quiet, but they vote enough.

Yeah Rickey is out there.

I’m at a loss for this week. I like DC’s personal choice, but he’s going to have to do something to it to make it less boring. I don’t know what the heck Simon was thinking with his choice, but I’m sure DC will work it out.
I think Syesha will do ok with the Alicia Keys song, but it’s super predictable. I’m actually kind of pissed that I have to sit through DA and Syesha in order to hear DC tomorrow. But at least I get to hear 3 songs out of him, eh?

ETA:

carolina May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 am

I think that DA should sing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Beinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Greenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by the Sesame Street Gang. His Dad would approve and even, like, High 5 (and answer your cell phone Little D à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  Dadà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s-a-callinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢)

I think Syesha should sing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I Just Want to be Your Everythingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  – canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember who sang it but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s her #1 choice.

And, I think, David Cook, should sing whatever he wants.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what I think!

LOL!

Yep joydrop, and I hope this week they record the *right* DC song for the studio cut (Should be happening today, actually!)

Also, please please let DC have pimpspot this week…

Yep joydrop, and I hope this week they record the *right* DC song for the studio cut (Should be happening today, actually!)

Me too! I can’t wait for another DC song to put in my iPod. Always Be May Baby has been played over 500 times or so- and while I still love it, it’s starting to drive my sister crazy!

Fanbases come in many types. Syesha gets votes, and they come from somewhere. While she may lack the true believers who can get overly attached to a contestant (Sorry Jasonites), her base is quiet, but they vote enough.

Well, excuse me, MrRJ. Not only do fanbases come in many types, fans within the cohort come in many types as well. I like Jason, but certainly resent being dubbed an overly-attached believer.

Prime, I didn’t dub you anything. You have always been very objective. I was only making a point about there being different types of fanbases. I should have pointed out that there are different levels of fans for everyone. If I offended, I am very very sorry.

I bet since Archie went last in Top 4, Cookie gets the pimp spot!!! *crosses fingers*

Cook – First Time Ever I Saw Your Face? Simon’s protoge Leona Lewis covered that on her Spirit debut album. A bit self-indulgent, Simon?

MrRJ- Thanks for clarifying your statement.

Karen- At this point, I don’t think the pimp spot matters as much as pimping.

I think if little Davie trots out first tomorrow night then his reign as TCO is officially over!!

I want to see Cookie get the pimp spot this week, not that he hasn’t had it before, but I think it’s about time he get this week. LOL

Agreed, PM. I don’t think the “pimp spot” really matters at this point. There are only three performers. Even the fickle and forgettable American viewing public can remember three people – LOL. The pimping does matter though. While the judges comments may only have a minor effect of the fan bases, I bet their comments sway the casual voters or people who vote based on a given week’s performances. I have heard casual viewers (mom/dad/friends) say things like “Oh, I thought that was good. I guess I was wrong” after the judges give a negative comment.

DC should get the pimp spot since DA had it for top 4 and Syesha had it for top 5. I agree that it doesn’t really matter very much anymore – the judges’ pimping and the performances themselves matter much, much more. It does give ME some time to collect myself before DC performs, so I will be grateful for any pimpspot that comes his way. We know that DA’s crusty old funeral songs will be the bomb no matter what. It will be interesting to see who out of DC and Syesha gets told that they’re worthy to go to the finale.

I still wouldn’t be shocked to see DC sent packing so that he can more readily front a fake band. I don’t think they would go that route with their winner or potential winner, so if they really don’t want him as a solo artist, they could boot him off this week. I’d prefer that he win, but as long as he sings his butt off this week and makes me proud to be a Cooktard, I could deal with a 3rd place finish.

I have heard casual viewers (mom/dad/friends) say things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Oh, I thought that was good. I guess I was wrongà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  after the judges give a negative comment.

I’ve even done that myself! But then I smack myself and remember how much smarter I am than they are :lol_wp:

Steph
May 12th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Agreed, PM. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pimp spotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  really matters at this point. There are only three performers. Even the fickle and forgettable American viewing public can remember three people – LOL. The pimping does matter though. While the judges comments may only have a minor effect of the fan bases, I bet their comments sway the casual voters or people who vote based on a given weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances. I have heard casual viewers (mom/dad/friends) say things like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Oh, I thought that was good. I guess I was wrongà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  after the judges give a negative comment.

Yeah. I second-guess myself after hearing the judges sometimes. But, I think the judge’s praise after the last performance will last a little longer in the mind of the casual viewer. I still remember Simon’s response to Fantasia after her performance of “I Believe” – “I believe you just gave you acceptance speech.” I think that gave her the voting boost she needed, and that’s because he had just been on the news a few days earlier saying that Diana DeGarmo would take it all.

LOL Kirsten, you crack me up with your rants.

Look, Nigel, Fuller, Simon, whoever, you are all old FOSSILS. Let somebody else pick the songs next year. Somebody who listens to the radio. Somebody who can name something written in this century.

I’d like to see Fred Bronson from Billboard do a little choosing one year. When he’s made suggestions in the past, I think they’ve generally worked out pretty well (Kat McPhee and “Black Horse & The Cherry Tree” comes to mind). Plus, he might actually pick songs that have some sort of relevance to today’s music scene. Not “She Works Hard For The Money” (I’m sorry, I still can’t get over my WTF reaction when they announced that as Jordin’s producer song choice last year. Worst. Song. Choice. Ever.).

I’ve resolved to not worry over dcook’s songs or performances tomorrow. At this point? My attitude is: que sera sera. Though I do wonder if that “American Woman” rumor is true, if he’ll do the Lenny Kravitz version? I lurve Lenny Kravitz, so I might actually like it if he does.

Syesha should chose: “Feel the Fire” by Stephanie Mills, “I am Changing” by Jennifer Holliday, “Here’s Where I stand” by Tiffany Taylor, “Lately” by Divine, “Who’s Loving You?” by the Jackson Five or “I’m Every Woman” by Chaka Kahn

Producers should chose for her: “Work it out” by Beyonce, “Umbrella” by Rhianna, or “Midnight Train to Georgia” by Gladys Knight

Can’t do Beyonce- Simon and her are mad at each other.

Is “Longer” a confirmed spoiler?? I know it’s listed on this site, but is it confirmed?? Source, please:)

I want to see Cookie get the pimp spot this week, not that he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had it before, but I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about time he get this week. LOL

Actually, I’d like him to go 2nd because you can get in a lot of votes while the last person is still singing. They open the phone lines about 5 minutes early.

If the producers give Syesha a plumb song like “Umbrella” and stick the David’s with moldy oldies, then I will have to assume they want her in the finals.

Mandisa did a pretty good job with I’m Every Woman (IIRC), but she was more of a true belter. Don’t know if Sy could pull it off. Rhianna’s songs would work better because, well, Rhianna isn’t much of a singer. LOL

amber, I believe the source was a poster over at Rickey’s who’s been reliable before…and if MJ posted it I gotta think it’s a solid spoiler

hollygo9
May 12th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I want to see Cookie get the pimp spot this week, not that he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had it before, but I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about time he get this week. LOL

Actually, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like him to go 2nd because you can get in a lot of votes while the last person is still singing. They open the phone lines about 5 minutes early.

Actually, at the AI site, they call that a five minute “test window”, to see if the lines are working properly. Any calls made during that time, they say, won’t count.

well, I didn’t think it would be posted here if not true, but I haven’t seen where it came from. Just curious. and hoping it’s not true:)

Actually, at the AI site, they call that a five minute à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“test windowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , to see if the lines are working properly. Any calls made during that time, they say, wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t count.

Aww, I now need an umbrella for my parade.

hollygo9
May 12th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Actually, at the AI site, they call that a five minute à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“test windowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , to see if the lines are working properly. Any calls made during that time, they say, wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t count.

Aww, I now need an umbrella for my parade.

Ooops. Sorry.

So DA has two ballads in store right now for tomorrow night? 20 bucks says he won’t do any better himself with his own song choice. Those songs are popular, though; he’ll probably get a huge amount of the swing vote again.

DC will probably get the pimp spot, yes, but I don’t think it matters too much now. As it is flipping obvious that TPTB will crush anything getting in the way of their David/David finale, the judges will probably end up pimping the David TPTB want to win, and slightly de-pimping the other one. Just my guess.

ETA: Why the heck is DC almost always in the middle of these group shots lately? Just a thought…

ETA: Why the heck is DC almost always in the middle of these group shots lately? Just a thoughtà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I think it’s aesthetic. Both Archie and Syesha are short…

ETA: Why the heck is DC almost always in the middle of these group shots lately? Just a thoughtà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Because he’s significantly taller than Archie and Syesha. They usually have him sitting and them standing or in the case of the TV guide cover, he’s leaning forward. Even when they all sit down, the height difference is noticeable.

I can’t understand why everyone says his music is too old this week. He didn’t choose them. Why is everyone crucifying him for that. People are getting out of hand. Give the kid a break. He’ll do just fine’ I think he’ll get sympathy votes and the young votes’ No problems there’

The music itself isn’t too old. The subject of the lyrics is too old for him. Paula’s song is a song of an experienced and wounded person. Longer is not believable froma 17 year old who appears much younger in his demeanor.

Yeah, I agree with MrRJ on this one. Although, I have myself been astonished by the actual age of the songs sung on this season (that’s more of an indictment of tptb rather than the contestants) it’s really the subject matter. I understand it’s probably difficult to find the right content for Archie – considering he is 17, but looks about 13 or 14. Perhaps they can clear the Rainbow Connection? I’m kidding! I love Kermit – and that song – seriously, the love is kind of irrational at my age. So, don’t get any ideas stage-daddy.

I have myself been astonished by the actual age of the songs sung on this season

By locking every single week in a theme, they’ve hamstrung the contestants with old songs. Before, they had the chance to use newer music in the semi-final rounds.

LONG post coming up, but I took some time and put some thought into it. I hope y’all don’t mind…

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Whenever I listen to a song, or see a play, or read a book, I enjoy it for what it is the first time I listen to/see/read it.

However, if I listen/see/read again, it may mean something completely different to me. And if it means something different to me, surely it means something different to someone else.

And if someone wants to sing that song, or produce that play, or rewrite that story– how it makes them feel– then I have absolutely no problem with that.

It’s an idea I’ve heard referred to as “open text”– that is, whatever any particular art form is when it is created does not mean that it must stay that way forever. Composer’s/songwriter’s/writer’s intent is one thing, but it is always up the artist to provide their own interpretation. I think we should all be open to these various interpretations.

All the time artists cover others’ songs in completely different ways. Old plays/musicals/operas are presented in new settings, in different contexts. For example– Peter Sellars producing Mozart operas in modern settings. Chris Cornell turning a Michael Jackson pop classic into a brooding, haunting rock song. Just because these productions aren’t true to the original does not mean that they are any less real, or important, than the original.

What I guess I’m trying to say, in a roundabout way, is that I always try to keep an open mind when I hear these song choice spoilers. When Ewan MacColl first sang “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face,” it had its own meaning. Does that make Roberta Flack’s, or Leona Lewis’s, or whoever’s, version less powerful or beautiful? I say no! So, when we hear David Cook is taking on this song, I keep the original in mind, but I am also open to the fact that DC might make it something truer and more beautiful to him, and therefore, possibly even to us.

I feel like we should do the same for David Archuleta, with “And So It Goes” and “Longer.” These ARE older songs, first written and sung by older men, whose lyrics meant something specific to them at the time of their writing. However, when little Archie takes the stage tomorrow night, I don’t think we should immediately judge him for singing a song “too old” for him. Forget Billy Joel and Dan Fogelberg for a moment, and try to understand how these lyrics could become real and powerful for a 17-year-old “kid.”

I think an open mind– free from Idol scandals, the schemes of TPTB, and what we think is appropriate for their age, style, or gender– could allow us to enjoy all three of these contestants on whatever songs they sing, whether chosen by them or given to them. I find myself enjoying the performance shows much more when I keep an open mind, considering each song as an “open text.”

Interesting theory Preston. However, I disagree with how a very young 17 year old can sing words of lost loves and bitterness and pain. He is too young to have experienced such wounds. “For every time I felt a rose, it seems I only felt the thorns” Not DA’s fault. Paula is an idiot.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand why everyone says his music is too old this week. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t choose them. Why is everyone crucifying him for that. People are getting out of hand. Give the kid a break. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll do just fineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get sympathy votes and the young votesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ No problems thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

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Preston, I can definitely see what you’re saying. But, the problem I have with Archie’s song choices are not that they are so much older, but that he lacks the experience to make those songs believable. I listened to David Cook talk about how ABMB jumped out at him because the lyrics spoke about the love between two people which would always be there. He was able to make that work for him. I have to believe that at age 25, he really has experienced such an emotion. I’ll be gladly corrected if I’m wrong, but I highly doubt that Archie has, at this point, experienced anything more than puppy love – if that. Now, I’m wanting him to interpret lyrics as a change of pace, and believe it or not, there are songs out there which he can make personal.

That being said, this is pretty much an open week. I still cannot understand the datedness of the songs.

He is too young to have experienced such wounds. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“For every time I felt a rose, it seems I only felt the thornsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Not DAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fault.

If he sings those lyrics, that is. I remember him not singing the first, most famous verse of Imagine because the lyrics didn’t mean as much to him. He may be young, but I think for the most part he knows what he’s doing.

Paula is an idiot.

Can’t argue with that.

There’s a rumor going around Archie’s personal song choice. Get this – he’s supposedly singing Chris Brown’s “With You”. I about fell off my chair when I saw this. Strange song choice but at least the kid is actually taking a risk for once. If this really IS his song, just WOW.

Say it isn’t so , Simon is trying to sabatage DC by choosing TFTEISYF . I could see this song choice for Syesha but for a rocker who Simon scolded for not staying true to his rocker self , not. I smell a rat and his name is Cowell. I have always thought that tptb would set this year up for little David . I truly hope that I am proven wrong .
IMO DA is so one dementional and quite boring and predictable . In contrast , DC has been consistant in different stlyes of music this year , Music of the Night was brilliant and Little Sparrow was just beautiful. I see a long successful career
ahead for him but I believe that tptb are pimping DA.

Get this – heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s supposedly singing Chris Brownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“With Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I hope this is true because it would Hi. Larious. I’ve needed a good laugh for a while, Boo.

idolfan86
May 13th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rumor going around Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s personal song choice. Get this – heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s supposedly singing Chris Brownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“With Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . I about fell off my chair when I saw this. Strange song choice but at least the kid is actually taking a risk for once. If this really IS his song, just WOW.

Wow is right.

ETA…Erasing my post.

The pimping does matter though. While the judges comments may only have a minor effect of the fan bases, I bet their comments sway the casual voters or people who vote based on a given weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances.

I would like to see some HONEST comments from the judges that actually apply to the performance we just saw. No OTT or negatives but geniune remarks. TPTB know how much the judging has been criticized. This would be so nice for a change.

i think i would fall out of my chair if that song choice was true for DA. probably a scary board false rumo though.

ugh at da doin chris brown NO

Quote (Good morning, and happy Tuesday. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just popping in to verify à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“with youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by chris brown IS Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s choice. I would have spilled yesterday, but there were more Cook fans in here from early afternoon until late, LATE in the night then Archies. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wondering if they were here to get the spoilers? If so, I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to give them. Next week I can email archies if need be)

Enough said. David needs our votes tonight more than ever. VOTE VOTE VOTE!) by Damolegirl in Rickey) Close Quote

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So this confirms that Archie is doing With You – Chris Brown. Finally, something current, modern, young, contemporary and outside his box of ballads. Wish both Davids and Syesha the best of luck. May the best singer wins!

OMG!!! I am going to die of laughter now. I am so excited to go to work now so the hours can fly by and I can witness the laughfest of archie singing this song. oh oh, can i tivo the “boos” hahahahahahahahaha. god, made my day so far!!!

Hahaha… Yes it is funny that Lil David is going to sing With You – Chris Brown. I still can’t picture him singing an R&B song… Well, I hope he can do a good job out of it. No ill-wishes…

I just listened to With You. I’m not that familiar with most of Chris Brown’s songs, but I really do like him. This seems like a good contemporary choice for David A. There’s a helluva lot of lyrics in that song, he can cherry-pick the most innocent ones and make it work as a cute little first-love song. Better suited to him than Love Me Tender. He can run all over the place with it, too. Not that I want him to win this thing, but that’s a good choice.

I predict Cook to do “Yo’ Face” (I’ve been reading the TWOP boards, too) as an acoustic. If he followed any of the publicity from his trip home at all, he should know that his fans love, love, loved his acoustic sets that he did there.

Can’t wait until other choices are made known!

Rita

The producers must really want Archie gone. Those are two of the most dire songs I’ve ever heard. What are they going to do now, steer his pick to Seasons in the Sun?

I would have spilled yesterday, but there were more Cook fans in here from early afternoon until late, LATE in the night then Archies. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wondering if they were here to get the spoilers? If so, I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to give them. Next week I can email archies if need be

LMAO – this is the best part of the spoiler. The fact that whoever this person is – they think they need to keep Archie’s song a secret from the Cook fans. What good does that do? It’s certainly not a trade secret of any sort – the other contestants probably know what everyone is singing long before the rest of us do. So, what where the Cook fans going to do with that information exactly? And, how could it be harmful to Archie?

LMAO – this is the best part of the spoiler. The fact that whoever this person is – they think they need to keep Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song a secret from the Cook fans. What good does that do? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s certainly not a trade secret of any sort – the other contestants probably know what everyone is singing long before the rest of us do. So, what where the Cook fans going to do with that information exactly? And, how could it be harmful to Archie?

hehe..I did find it funny too! I pasted that information from the rickey website, from Damolegirl. Those tweenies are really funny!..