The Celebrity Apprentice – Week 7 – Discussion and Recap (UPDATED)

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Tonight’s Celebrity Apprentice is super DRAMATIC. I’m hearing we won’t even believe who is eliminated. The celebrities face two tasks: creating a limited edition My New York celebrity guidebook and promoting a Walgreens walking kit.

Be back with results.  Look for Montavilla’s  recap later!

Debbie Gibson and Dee Snyder were fired from Celebrity Apprentice

Walking Papers
Part One

This week, the Trump organization gives 150% by adding an extra hour. Several of the celebs give 110% on their tasks, and I’m going to have to give 300% to cut all this down to a reasonable post. Yikes!

After last week’s boardroom, Aubrey cries in the suite while everyone comforts her. Arsenio assures her that no one will think badly of her for choking up over her charity. Only Penn comforts Dayana, who is upset about losing Patricia — her only friend on the girl’s team.

Clay delivers his checks to Christie White of the National Inclusion Project and plays with adorable children in Central Park.

At Trump Tower, Trump presents the next task: To write, design, print, and sell a guide book to New York. The team that raises the most money will win. Part of the money raised will be a bonus given to the team with the “best” book, as judged by one of Trump’s buddies.

The bonus will be paid by Toshiba, who are using this task as a product placement for the Toshiba Tablet. The tablet will be used to take the photos.

Teresa steps up as Forte’s Project Manager. Aubrey thinks this will be a disaster. Dee takes on the PM position for Unanimous.

Both PMs stress that this is a money-raising task. Debbie rolls her eyes and says it’s Teresa’s responsibility then to bring in money. Dayana tries to speak up, since she’s been cited as not having ideas by the women.

Penn comes up with an idea to photograph the men on the top of a building, to highlight different New York neighborhoods. Clay objects, but Dee likes Penn’s idea. “I don’t know if it’s his entire head, but Dee’s forehead, at least, is up Penn’s ass,” Clay says.

When they take the photos, Lou fantasizes about pushing Penn off the roof. But in general, the men seem to be enjoying their task. Arsenio and Clay wrassle cutely as they write their copy. Penn ghost-writes Paul’s description of the Upper East Side, and everyone cracks up over it. I’d kind of like to read their book. It really sounds fun.

The women travel to different locations for their shots. That, combined with Dayana wanting lots of shots taken, puts the women behind schedule. Lisa starts in on what becomes a major meltdown when Dayana gives her subway directions for one location. “Oh my God,” she screams, then goes on a mostly bleeped-out rant about women who do nothing but look in a mirror, while she’s doing 90% of the work.

Meanwhile, Debbie asks about signage and Teresa says, “Yes, of course we need it.” Debbie decides that Teresa is a lousy PM because she hasn’t given Debbie a visual concept for the signage, assuming that Debbie would create one. (I think the women are feeling Patrcia’s absence right now. In the past, she was the one who handled that part of the tasks.)

The next day, the men are selling their books at a tent. Penn has called in Teller and the Blue Man Group, who arrive at the head of their own parade. Teller hands over $20,000. The Blue Man Group must do things their own way, so they pop large balloons filled with cash — which is immediately snatched up by bystanders. Clay is disgusted when most of the donation ends up disappearing into the crowd, but Penn THs that he considers it going to someone in need.

Arsenio is worried. Only one of his friends — Jay Leno — came through for him, but Leno is sending a blank check. The only problem is that it went to the wrong place and now it’s on a truck somewhere. Eventually, the woman carrying it shows up, but it’s too late to make it into the cash box. That means Arsenio has raised $0.

At the girl’s tent, Aubrey is doing great selling on the street. However, she hasn’t got big donor friends. Dayana’s friends show up with large checks. Teresa’s friends eventually show up with money as well.

In the meantime, Trump meets with Regis Philbin to judge the books. After Regis says essentially nothing, we go to a commercial for Donald Trump’s “Signature Collection” at Macy’s. I am weirded out at how much Trump acts like the SNL parody of him.

Then we get Ms. Brown M&M (the Chief Chocolate Officer), who says the secret to sales is ABC: Always Be Chocolate. Sigh. I’m so sick of her.

In the boardroom, Trump sets the women fighting. Aubrey blames Dayana for fighting with Lisa. Lisa blames Dayana for taking too many photographs. Debbie blames Teresa for not telling her what to do with the printing.

Sated, Trump tells the teams that he had Regis Philbin judge the books. The women’s book was considered better, which adds $35,000 to their total. However, the men still won by fourteen dollars! Dee wins over $300,000 for the March of Dimes.

The men leave, and the women return to fighting. After Trump has had enough of it, he asks Teresa who she will bring back. Although Aubrey brought in the least amount of money ($20,000), Teresa decides to bring back Dayana (as the “weakest link”), and Debbie, because she had to be “babysat” on the printing.

Watching from the suite, the men predict that Teresa will be fired for not bringing back Aubrey. Lisa predicts that it will be Dayana. Instead, Trump fires Debbie, since she brought in less than Dayana or Teresa, and those are his only choices.

In the limo, Debbie complains about the backstabbing and lies. “But he can’t fire me from being Debbie Gibson,” she says. “I’m good.”

When the women return to the suite, Dayana gleely reports that Teresa brought back the wrong person. Another fight starts, and Lisa worries what they’ll do tomorrow when the team must choose a new PM.

Part Two

After Dee delivers his check to the March of Dimes, Trump gathers the celebrities and scolds the women for losing so much. He sends Aubrey and Teresa to Unanimous, and Penn, Dee, and Lou over to Forte. Arsenio falls to the ground in agony over the thought of having Aubrey on his team.

The task is to create a presentation for a health initiative, “Walk with Walgreens.” The teams must also design a box for the WWW membership kit. Lou takes the PM duties for Forte because he’s a “fitness guy.” Trump urges him to do some push-ups and Aubrey challenges him in her ridiculous six-inch heels. Lou wins.

With that nonsense over, Arsenio becomes the Unanimous PM. Aubrey notes that Arsenio is a lot weaker than she thought before joining his team.

Allison Sweeney (host of Biggest Loser) appears in a commercial for “Walk with Walgreens.” Synergy!

Forte brainstorms. Penn comes up with the idea of multitasking while walking, which Lisa loves. Dayana suggests bringing people up on stage during the presentation. Dee makes sure her idea is heard. Lou decides to take the role of main speaker during the presentation.

Penn has to leave, but he writes the presentation before he goes. The team comes up with a slogan “Do It While Walking” and brainstorms things you can do as you walk. Dee throws out crazy stuff like “scratching.”

When Don visits, Dee praises Dayana, which sends Lisa into a depression. She has a long conversation with Dee about hurt she felt when he did that. He is surprised that Lisa wanted to talk about feelings. Lisa expresses surprise about how far up Dayana’s ass Dee is.

Unanimous’s idea for the presentation is to do a game show. Aubrey has pretty much taken on the design of the box, stressing the need for bright colors. She wants to use headshots of the celebs, along with a quote about walking from each one. Arsenio gets upset because she chooses the worst picture of him to use.

Eric visits Unanimous and notices that Aubrey seems to be taking control away from Arsenio. “Am I talking to much?” Aubrey asks. “Yes,” Arsenio says. Aubrey moves over to the computer and pouts.

Forte’s Presentation: Lou speaks about how walking helps him as inspirational music plays. He encourages Penn to juggle while walking, which Penn does with oranges “conveniently” left onstage. Dayana walks while wearing her tiara, sash, and swimsuit. Penn almost muffs everything by calling Walgreens “Walmart,” but Dayana bounces up and down, which distracts everyone and saves the day. Then Lisa comes onstage with a tiara and sash, proclaiming that some men like a little padding, ending the presentation with a laugh.

Unanimous’s Presentation: The celebs hand out colored t-shirts to the crowd. Aubrey hands their box to Allison Sweeney (who is there to judge the task). Clay announces Arsenio, who plays game show host. Paul, Aubrey, and Teresa are contestants who have to answer true/false questions about health and walking. The crowd seems to love the format.

Allison and the Walgreens executives mull over the presentations.

After commercial, we are in the boardroom for the second time. Lou thinks Forte won the task. When Trump asks, Lisa decides that Lou was “okay” as the PM. Clay praises Arsenio as a great PM. He also thought that Aubrey had a lot of great ideas, but that Teresa was a better team player.

Trump has each team examine the box designed by the opposing team. Aubrey mutters that the Forte box is “horrible.” Clay says he finds the box boring.

When Lisa praises the Unaniomous box for its use of quotes, Aubrey delightedly pipes up, “I wrote them!” At this, Arsenio explodes with rage. “Typing is not writing!”

Cut to the Chief Chocolate Officer. Go away, Chief Chocolate Officer! You aren’t even giving a business tip this time. You’re just making puns about walking.

Back to the boardroom, where Arsenio is still ranting about Aubrey, that she’s only interested in herself, not a team player. Aubrey bats her eyelashes and tries to look innocent. “It’s so ugly,” she murmurs.

Trump asks Clay who is telling the truth, Arsenio or Aubrey. Clay agrees with Arsenio.

Aubrey turns to Teresa, asking, “Did I not teach you everything–?” Even Trump is finding her a bit self-centered.

Eric and Don deliver the verdict from Walgreens. They loved Arsenio, and the Forte slogan, “Face Reality.” They thought the presentation was too “informational,” instead of “motivational.” Walgreen didn’t like Forte’s box design. There were some negative words (such as “scratching”) on it. They were upset that Penn called it “Walk With Walmart.”

Unanimous wins the task. Arsenio starts crying, and talks about the Magic Johnson Foundation. “You’re going to make me cry,” Don says with his stone face on.

Unanimous heads up to the suite, but Aubrey is upset and walks away from the group. “Let her go,” Clay tells Teresa. Aubrey goes to the elevator and gets in. “I don’t want to be around all the negativity anymore …,” she says. The elevator door closes.

Another Walgreens commercial. This time with Allison and Arsenio.

In the suite, Arsenio hugs Clay and talks about how his cousin died from AIDS. “This is for my cousin Sharon,” he cries.

Lou brings Dayana and Dee back into the boardroom. Dayana can’t see why she was brought back. She was never assigned any job during the task. Dee says that she worked hard, helping everyone else. They both think Lou should be fired.

Lou says he shouldn’t, because he gave “110%.” Dee counters that everyone else on the task gave 120%.

Unfortunately, Dee was responsible for designing the box, which the Walgreens executives hated. Trump fires Dee.

In the limo, Dee urges the remaining contestants to stop propping up Lou.

Next Week: Lisa has major meltdowns. That’ll be new.

What did you think of the show? Was the Blue Man Group brilliant or idiotic? Is Aubrey gone for good, or will she show up in the morning with huge sunglasses on? How long can Dayana be called “weak” before Trump fires her? Answe

 
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  • ronnie

    Yeah, that’s the worse thing about Lisa- it’s not that she’s so catty but she has not been very funny doing it

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I don’t get Penn.  He acts non-confrontational on the show but he seems
    to have no problem slamming Clay in all these “asides” that don’t
    directly involve the show- in fact, he slams the show and Clay
    constantly.”

    Really?  What has he said or written?  I think that Penn is pointing out that the show isn’t “real” and highly edited to give a different impression of what really happened, but that would apply to the whole genre of “reality” shows.  Clay is the one who has continued to trash Penn in interviews, and Penn hasn’t really said anything negative about Clay until this HF article, and in the context of what really happened. 

    “It’s hard to understand a celebrity who would sign on to
    the show without watching it beforehand- if he saw last year, he would
    most certainly know it was going to get nasty, that is what the show is
    about.”

    Penn tweeted that he did watch a couple of the previous season’s episodes before going on the show, so he had a handle on what the show was about.  Personally, I think that Penn was interested to see how far he could get without trashing anyone and with the attitude that winning wasn’t the most important thing.  He won $50,000 for his charity, has gained a lot of followers on twitter, and sold more books and more tickets to his and Teller’s show.  Sounds like he’s done pretty well to me, even if he does get fired soon.

    “Clay though is trying to figure out desperately how to get Penn
    off the show- he is much harsher with him than he is everyone else, I do
    think he knows Penn is his main competition, he is sort of worming his
    way into any crevice that he thinks could be Penn’s Achilles’ heel.  He
    has sort of covered himself but it’s getting more and more obvious.”

    Yes, Clay’s trying to find any way that he can to slam Penn and try to get him fired, even blaming Penn for what the BMG did, and “low-balling” the money that they recovered from the BMG.  It’s pretty obvious, and I’ve noticed that Penn hasn’t said anything in response to Clay slamming him in the boardroom this episode and previous episodes.  IMO, if Clay weren’t so desperate about trying to revive his career, he would be trying so hard to win. Penn’s career and future doesn’t depend on winning this show, so I can understand why he doesn’t care as much.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” So it was wrong of Clay to talk to Penn with the cameras on and it was
    wrong of Clay to talk to Penn with the cameras off? OK. Gotcha.”

    These are two different situations.  A genuine “heart to heart” discussion would have been conducted without cameras and mics.  It’s not “wrong”, just not genuine.  Also, nothing “wrong” about Clay overreacting to Penn’s query off camera.  I think that Penn may not even have meant that it was intentionally off camera, but simply indicated that it was off camera as a possible explanation as to why it wasn’t shown.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Clay isn’t threatened by Arsenio at all (for whatever reason) and he seems to reserve his most negative comments for Aubrey and Penn, both of whom Clay has admitted are threats.  That’s why he will take every opportunity to slam either of them (mostly Penn because he works with him).  I honestly think that Penn believing that winning isn’t the most important thing, and his refusal to get nasty in response to being trashed is frustrating and irritating Clay.  lol

  • Kirsten

    Penn had no control over them, just asked them to donate and the BMG
    being who they are, decided on that bit of performance art (or “stunt”
    depending on one’s POV).  Why is anyone blaming Penn for what the BMG
    did?

    Penn, in the HP article you linked, seems to imply that he had something to do with the BMG stunt. Here are his own words:

    ‘They’ve also got some money, so I called them, told them I was doing
    this TV show and did they want to donate some money to charity? They
    said yes before finding out what charity [snip] BMG asked if I wanted them to show up and do something. Oh yes, please. After weeks of sitting on “boardroom” sets pretending to do
    business, I really wanted something beautiful.

    “Can you deliver the money in a fun way?” I asked them.’

    Since they asked if he wanted them “to do something”, they seem like they would be happy to donate without pulling a stunt. They had already said “yes” to donating. It was Penn that asked for something fun. 

    In the HP piece, I didn’t read that Penn was justifying his actions at
    all.  I think that he was trying to further explain what wasn’t fully
    explained on the edited show last night.

    He didn’t watch the show (“I’ve done a lot of TV, but one of my proudest moments in my career was shown this week on The Celebrity Apprentice. I didn’t watch it, but I was in it.”) so he wasn’t responding to how it was edited. He just appears to have decided to write a long post defending himself and how wonderful he is for loving art unlike some of the other soulless people on the show.

    The thing is, from the clip I saw, Penn didn’t look bad. The article was unnecessary.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t think that Penn requesting the BMG to “perform” meant that he should be responsible for their actions, any more than when Penn is asked to perform (juggle, eat fire, do magic, etc.), the person who asked him to “entertain” should be responsible for what he does.  These people are artists and entertainers.  We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this.   I do think that the BMG incident exposed Clay’s personal vendetta against Penn very clearly though.

    “He just appears to have decided to write a long post defending himself
    and how wonderful he is for loving art unlike some of the other soulless
    people on the show.”

    I can see how you might get that impression, but after following Penn on twitter and his podcasts, I don’t get a sense of arrogance or superiority from him.  Maybe, I’ll change my mind, but not so far.  Again, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677275924 Anonymous

     It is simple cause and effect. If Penn wasn’t such a jackass this week Clay wouldn’t have lost his cool.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    Mainly quite nice writing from you, but obviously you do not know all the facts: Penn would have liked to use the help of BMG for his only charity in the task-to-come, but Dee asked him to ask contribution from BMG already now to help Dee. And Penn did not “choose” by himself some certain way, but the group including Clay, NBC etc etc approved of their idea of blowing up the balloon (which reflected the essence of BMG), and ultimately the way to act like this was Dee’s decision as a project manager, and it was a wise decision, because they won, and Dee got a huge sum of 330 000 for his charity. One cannot say, that all the BMG money was for Dee, if they wanted to act like this, but only the money, they could get. And somehow I find it quite beautiful, that each ten dollar bill they fought for in that situation was really worth fighting for, because they won only by marginal of 14 dollars! If there would not have been that money, they would have lost. And at the same time with the parade of BMG, Penn’s colleque Teller gave himself 30 000 dollars to Dee decently and with proper manners. I do think that both of the persons, Clay and Penn, are really clever and great (and I really mean it), but that Penn has a little bit more depth in him, and I think that is the actual reason, why Clay sometimes attacks towards Penn. But what comes to the irritation because of the chaos, I think you are right, that Clay’s person just do not like that kind of situations (and I would not call that lack of depth). It is also healthy to see, that Penn also is not that perfect, if he has to talk about “money ending to poor, homeless people”, because like you wrote, I think, part of the money was grabbed by just greedy people. If Penn would have said, that part of the money went to greedy people, who when having to behave in such a way to get that money,  are actually quite poor and needy, so one can call it some kind of charity, he would fave gotten my full points.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    Finding out myself commenting your writings again.
    1 Penn is an excellent person, but if you willing to find some flaws from him, I think that Clay really discovered some a couple of episodes ago. But what i like about Penn is that he really listens and wants to learn, and so when he now reflects his start in the CA, he says, that h e wished that he had had the understanding to speak less, which understanding he received from the confrontation with Clay.
    2 I do not think, he has some big reason to mock the show terribly. But like Clay does not like chaos, he does not perticularly enjoy the atmosphere of the CA, especially when it sets out to degrade people. Instead he receives joy from the artists lie BMG. I understand, that to him, nearly anything is art, and he just tell what kind of art he enjoys. When he says:”Those are the artistic ideas (of CA)”, I do not feel, he mocks the show or the people in it, but he just states tthe facts of what kind of art form CA is.
    3. Why is he in the show? Watch the whole NBC interview, I think he gives a great insight to that question. Personally I am whole the time on the verge of stopping to watch the show, because it really has so much nasty elements (I would like to believe the show without the aim of kind degrading people could enjoy as great, if not better success). But one of the reasons I notice why I am watching, that they have been able together a lot quite great persons, especially nearly all of the men appear to me very constructive and great. And I am glad I have gotten to know Penn more.

  • Anonymous

    ‘ But like Clay does not like chaos, he does not perticularly enjoy the
    atmosphere of the CA, especially when it sets out to degrade people.
    Instead he receives joy from the artists lie BMG. I understand, that to
    him, nearly anything is art, and he just tell what kind of art he
    enjoys.’

    Heh, just noticed something: Celebrity Apprentice = CA; Clay Aiken = CA.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    Yes, Clay brought up some flaws in Penn, but I do not think they were some serious flaws, I think I saw in that confrontation more ugly things in Clay than in Penn, because I felt Clay wanted to use the finding of the flaws in bad way against Penn.

    We always also see only the edited version. Did you know that Lou actually hit Penn, but it was edited out? I think that Lou is really difficult to work with, but see, in this last episode, Lou did not choose Penn to be in the bottom 3, because according to Lou “Penn is a very good team player”. Having gained that kind of trust rom the person who hit you is a mark of an excellent person, I think.
    Clay´s attitude was, that they should support Lou as much as possible. Look what Dee just said having been fired: “Stop supporting Lou over what is normal, because he is ready to throw you under the bus.” I do not think, that Lou is as nice person as they want present him, and still Penn and Lou seem to get along now.
    I do not think, that it is not degrading the other person, if you reveal in your own writings, that somebody hit you, although it was edited out, when it actually happened. When Penn wrote about this, I do not think, he hated Lou, but just wanted to the unedited important part of the truth of him being “condescending”.

    It is the same with with this BMG. From the show one could get the understanding, that to use BMG was Penn’s decision, and not project manager’s etc. Of course he can write about what was true. And when Clay intended to attack on him of the subject, of course he can write, what actually happened and what Clay said. Why not? He has not called Clay idiot or write anything like that. I think that he has kept his moral code very well this far, also in his writings. And I think he and Penn have also been tweeting with each other in friendly way.

    I think that just do like Penn or what he represents, and I do not think you need to have some great reasons to dislike somebody, you just do.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” It is simple cause and effect. If Penn wasn’t such a jackass this week Clay wouldn’t have lost his cool.”

    But it wasn’t Penn who was a “jackass”.  I think that Clay was so focussed on winning the task by raising the most money, that all he saw was that the BMG’s performance was going to “cost” the men’s team some money, and for him, that was unacceptable.  I can understand that POV, especially from someone who is so serious about winning, but it wasn’t Penn’s fault.  Indeed, without Penn’s contribution (asking the BMG and Teller to donate) the men’s team would have lost the challenge.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWXRUOY5BTHY5F52JP3ZFJTTVI Mikko

    Spelling and writing errors: I meant that you just seem to not like Penn or what he represents, and that is just fine, disliking does not need reasons.

  • http://twitter.com/starfishy2000 starfishy2000

    “These are two different situations. A genuine “heart to heart” discussion would have been conducted without cameras and mics. It’s not “wrong”, just not genuine. Also, nothing “wrong” about Clay overreacting to Penn’s query off camera. I think that Penn may not even have meant that it was intentionally off camera, but simply indicated that it was off camera as a possible explanation as to why it wasn’t shown.”

    First of all, we wouldn’t know what has happened off camera, now would we? Second of all, from all accounts of those involved in the show, they were on camera 20 hours a day, six days a week to film this. When would they have time to be off camera. And third, many of them seem to have pretty decent relationships after the show. I know Clay and Aubrey get along, and it seems Clay and Penn can at least be civil. So things can’t quite possibly be as bad as people are making it out to be.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “First of all, we wouldn’t know what has happened off camera, now would
    we?”

    That’s true.  No matter what anyone says, unless a person was there, there’s no way that viewers know what happened off camera or what was edited out/in.

    “Second of all, from all accounts of those involved in the show, they
    were on camera 20 hours a day, six days a week to film this. When would
    they have time to be off camera.”

    Actually, I’ve read in a few places that it was 16 hours a day, 6 days a week and Aubrey stated in her video interview at AfterBuzz that there was a lot of contact  among contestants after the cameras were off (people going to each other’s rooms to talk, strategize, etc.)

    “And third, many of them seem to have
    pretty decent relationships after the show. I know Clay and Aubrey get
    along, and it seems Clay and Penn can at least be civil. So things can’t
    quite possibly be as bad as people are making it out to be. ”

    I don’t think that any one in the public has any way of truly understanding the relationships between any of these contestants in real life, based on public comments, etc.  There’s no way for anyone in the public to know.  I’m not sure that Clay and Aubrey “get along”, considering Aubrey just called Clay out for lying on twitter.  lol

    Clay Aiken @clayaiken
    Doesn’t @AubreyODay play to support a anti-bullying charity? Why does she say meaner things about people than anyone else?
    8:14 PM – 1 Apr 12

    Aubrey O’Day @AubreyODay
    @clayaiken bc I had to work w people like you, that talked behind my back and plotted against me rather than keeping it real. #Frustrating
    8:17 PM – 1 Apr 12

    Clay Aiken @clayaiken
    @AubreyODay Never plotted. Also never said anything in interview that I didn’t say to your face.
    8:18 PM – 1 Apr 12

    Aubrey O’Day
    @AubreyODay we both know thats not true, or at least that’s not what u said last weekend! “@clayaiken: never said anything that i didn’t say 2 ur face.”
    8:22 PM – 1 Apr 12

    Aubrey’s right.  Clay’s first nasty comment about Aubrey’s looks wasn’t made to her face and we all know the infamous “chatch” comment was made in an interview.  lol  I’m sure that Clay plots behind everyone’s back.  He’s totally into playing the game, so of course he would “plot” against everyone.  I also think that Aubrey plots, so this is kind of the pot calling the kettle black.  lol  

    I have no idea what the real relationships are between any of these contestants, but Penn has stated that he’s friends (whatever that means) with Michael Andretti, Paul Sr., George Takei, Adam Carolla, Lisa Lampanelli and Arsenio Hall (I think that he knew Adam and Lisa before the show).  He referred to Clay as like someone he knew from high school (I assume reminiscing about what went on on the show).  Penn is aware of what kind of person Clay is and didn’t have the same goals as Clay during the show, and I think that contributes a lot towards Clay’s animosity towards him.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Overnight ratings:

    Three hours worth of Celebrity Apprentice
    was steady vs. last week’s season-low (in a two hour version) with a
    1.8 adults 18-49 rating. The 1.5 adults 18-49 rating at 8pm was nearly
    double that of the 0.8 Harry’s Law pulled in during the hour last week.  From 9-11p (its normal time period) Celebrity Apprentice was up a tenth to a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating.

    Time  Net  Show                                18/49  Viewers

    8:00   ABC  Once Upon A Time             2.7/8      8.20
             CBS  ACM Awards                      2.6/7     12.80
             FOX  The Simpsons (R)              1.6/5       3.87
             NBC  Celebrity Apprentice          1.5/4       5.19*

    8:30  FOX  Bob’s Burgers                    1.6/4       3.60

    9:00  CBS  ACM Awards                      3.2/8      13.18
             ABC  Desperate Housewives       2.6/6        8.38
             FOX  Family Guy                       2.5/6        5.09
             NBC  Celebrity Apprentice          1.8/4        5.94*

    9:30  FOX  American Dad                    2.0/5        4.22

    10:00  ACM Awards                            3.3/8       12.95
              NBC  Celebrity Apprentice         2.0/5         6.54*
              ABC  GCB                                1.9/5         5.84

    Ratings 8-11:00:  1.8/4  5.89

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/04/02/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-academy-of-country-music-awards-down-but-leads-cbs-to-win/126952/

    Ratings for the 7th episode (April 17, 2011) last year:

    Celebrity Apprentice (120 minutes)

    - 7.656 million viewers

    - 4.7/7 HH

    - 2.6/7 A18-49

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/19/sunday-finals-celebrity-apprentice-amazing-race-undercover-boss-extreme-makeover-60-minutes-adjusted-up/89904/

    The final ratings may be adjusted upwards, but as of now, this year’s episode was down 30% (0.8) in A18-49 and 23% (1.77 million) in total viewers compared with last year.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOD6T46O6RYENKPKZKR5NRQS5I jvkla

    Lisa Lampanelli needs a little humiliation.  She’s gone 2-7 “doing everything for team Forte, and her irrational hatred of Dayan for just being pretty is pretty embarrassing.  She come across so righteous, and yet she’d led her team into failure, and somehow has avoided having to be accountable…

  • maki

    Penn intrigues me, but I’m not a fan of his passive-aggressive and preposterous (Clay’s heart’s full of hate — seriously, Penn?) ways of dealing with things while otherwise trying to keep his ‘moral and about it all’ persona. Even the issue of him being “hit” was introduced in the middle of a discussion on Twitter when people weren’t feeling sorry enough for him after his scuffle with Clay in the mop episode. He only wrote “you don’t understand that I was hit and yelled at”, letting people believe it was Clay who hit him. Only after some prodding he said it was Lou. BTW, Lou said it was a lie and was upset Penn would make Lou’s kids think he used violence against him. Clay, when asked about it, wrote: “What one calls a hit, another calls tough guy greeting.” I’m sure if there were actual violence it would have not been treated lightly. Penn tried to explain that he’s not comfortable with even gentle hugs. “That’s for my family” but then we saw him hugging Aubrey. Maybe women with big tits are on his list of exceptions, too.

    Just a few episodes ago Penn was so impressed by Clay’s upselling abilities that his “little Carney blood was running proud”. Now it’s a bad thing. How quickly opinions change.

    Both Clay and Penn take their disagreements a little personally at times. Don’t we all? And like other people Penn does overstate things or even contradicts himself sometimes. He’s human after all. From what I’ve seen and read about him, I would hope he’d be first to laugh at the black and white thinking some people exhibit while trying to justify all his actions. Or maybe I’m wrong and he really is a douche who cries violence when it’s convenient for him, but sneers at someone who failed to see “art of the moment” after being knocked over by a mob of money hungry people.

    BTW, as a fellow atheist I’m interested in reading Penn’s book and was planning to buy it, but seeing how disgusted he is with money, I’ll be more than happy to get it from my library (or would it be more artsy if I stole it?). Don’t worry, Penn, no stinking dollars will echange hands. That I will hold onto for when Dee’s book and CD come out on May 8.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Lisa is acting like she’s out of control in her hatred of Dayana.  I thought that she was just OTT and exaggerated on the show, but off the show, she just said this:

    “I actually would love to see [Dayana] giving birth. She’s a s**c! she’s
    going to do it f***ing soon, anyway. She’ll be knocked up before the
    end of the week.”

    Wow!  That racial slur just shouldn’t be tolerated.  Dayana responded:

    “I understand that it’s Lisa’s job to make fun of people for a living,”
    Dayana tells us. “If poking fun at me can help her sell tickets to her
    shows, no problem, I am happy to help her put food on her table.
    However, when she uses racial slurs, she is not only targeting myself,
     but degrading an entire hispanic culture.    ”

    http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/04/06/celebrity-apprentice-dayana-mendoza-lisa-lampanelli-racist-attack-video/

    I honestly think that Lisa is doing herself a lot of damage, even if she’s known as an “insult comedian”.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Penn intrigues me, but I’m not a fan of his passive-aggressive and
    preposterous (Clay’s heart’s full of hate — seriously, Penn?) ways of
    dealing with things while otherwise trying to keep his ‘moral and about
    it all’ persona.”

    Everyone has their own strategy of how they are going to play the game, and Clay’s way is just more conventional (based on past seasons).  I think that the editing of the show is giving the viewers the impression that Clay has a vendetta against Penn, and I think that may be exaggerated.  I’ve not read Penn saying that Clay’s “heart is full of hate”. Where did you read/see that? Clay is super serious about winning and he admits to trying to undermine Penn (who he regards as a threat, along with Aubrey) and that’s pretty obvious from the show and his confessionals.

    “Even the issue of him being “hit” was introduced in the middle of a
    discussion on Twitter when people weren’t feeling sorry enough for him
    after his scuffle with Clay in the mop episode. He only wrote “you don’t
    understand that I was hit and yelled at”, letting people believe it was
    Clay who hit him.  Only after some prodding he said it was Lou. BTW, Lou said it was a lie
    and was upset Penn would make Lou’s kids think he used violence against
    him. Clay, when asked about it, wrote: “What one calls a hit, another
    calls tough guy greeting.” I’m sure if there were actual violence it
    would have not been treated lightly. Penn tried to explain that he’s not
    comfortable with even gentle hugs. “That’s for my family” but then we
    saw him hugging Aubrey. Maybe women with big tits are on his list of
    exceptions, too.”

    I follow Penn’s twitter and I never got that impression, nor did I see more than a couple of tweets to him expressing any confusion over who was doing the “hitting and yelling”.  Penn and Lou worked it all out on twitter and it turns out that Penn is sensitive about getting hit as part of a “tough guy greeting” (Clay never denied that Lou hit Penn) and Lou isn’t sensitive enough about realizing that his show of “affection” isn’t always appreciated (I know that I sure wouldn’t like it).  If someone is hit so hard that it hurts, then that’s enough reason to ask whoever is doing the hitting to stop, no matter what the intent.  As for the hug for Aubrey, as I recall, that was after she had had a pretty rough time in the boardroom, so Penn may have felt that it would console her (she did seem to appreciate it).

    “Just a few episodes ago Penn was so impressed by Clay’s upselling abilities that his “little Carney blood was running proud”. Now it’s a bad thing. How quickly opinions change.”

    I don’t recall Penn saying that, but I’m sure that Penn was impressed by Clay’s upselling ability and is still impressed. That is separate from the whole BMG issue.

    “Both Clay and Penn take their disagreements a little personally at
    times. Don’t we all? And like other people Penn does overstate things or
    even contradicts himself sometimes. He’s human after all. From what
    I’ve seen and read about him, I would hope he’d be first to laugh at the
    black and white thinking some people exhibit while trying to justify
    all his actions. Or maybe I’m wrong and he really is a douche who cries
    violence when it’s convenient for him, but sneers at someone who failed
    to see “art of the moment” after being knocked over by a mob of money
    hungry people. ”

    Yes, both of these guys are taking things too personally (although Clay has shown and been shown to be taking it more personally than Penn) and no question that they are both overly dramatic (which Penn has admitted). Clay is more openly aggressive, and Penn is more passive, but still giving his account of what happened, which I think is just as valid as Clay’s blog on the NBC site.  But, as Penn points out, it’s a tv show and not real, and edited to try to produce the most entertaining show no matter how much that differs from what really happened.  I’m intrigued by Penn and after following his twitter, he comes across as anything but arrogant or condescending and readily admits to understanding other POVs, even if he doesn’t agree with them.  He’s not intent on being “right”, whereas Clay seems to only accept one POV (like with the BMG performance) and that is consistent with his desire to win.  I disagree with both Clay and Penn – I think that these guys are very different in their personalities.

    “BTW, as a fellow atheist I’m interested in reading Penn’s book and was planning to buy it, but seeing how disgusted he is with money, I’ll be more than happy to get it from my library (or would it be more artsy if I stole it?). Don’t worry, Penn, no stinking dollars will echange hands. ”

    I think that you have confused Penn’s attitude towards money with that of the BMG. He’s not “disgusted” with money, but I do believe that he felt that the BMG performance undermined the basic premise of the show, which is all centered around gaining/raising money and all of these celebrities scrambling to win the relatively small amounts that Trump offers (only boosted to reasonable amounts by the sponsors of each task). It really is humiliating and surprising, at times, what some of these people are willing to do and say to promote themselves and their charities.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here is the twitter conversation where Lou and Penn worked things out.  I thought that Penn was pretty restrained and reasonable when Lou is quick to call him a liar, when it turns out that Lou was less than honest. It does seem like these guys reached an understanding, which I was glad to see.

    Clay Aiken
    Matter of perspective. What 1 calls a hit, another calls tough guy greeting RT “@slkasper: is it true that @LouFerrigno hit @pennjillette?”
    12:12 AM – 20 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @clayaiken @slkasper @pennjillette There is NO truth to this. But there is nothing but truth that Clay is a great man and a true leader.12:18 AM – 20 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @pennjillette next you’ll be saying I hit you with this. This is a hell of a lot cooler than your lies. http://pic.twitter.com/HMevfU6D
    3:57 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno Cool iPad case. Yup, same conversation I have with Wayne Newton. His idea of affection is also being rough, not my culture.4:11 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @pennjillette But to say I hit you…and not to my face but on twitter? Call it what you want but they are LIES Penn. Sad.
    4:14 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno I did tell you, and you understood and you stopped. Thank you for that. Last I saw you, you shook my hand and not hard.
    4:21 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @pennjillette To be clear I never had malice or ill intent towards you. You made my kids think that. Promise to be gentle next time I see u4:26 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno We’re from very different cultures. I’m sorry. My kids were upset with you yelling at me. Different styles. And I’m sorry.
    4:28 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno And thanks for your understanding. I’m not comfortable with even gentle hugs. That’s for my family.
    4:28 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @pennjillette Understood. I am affectionate. We are different men. That is very clear. This is an odd forum 4 this. Hope you’re well.
    4:33 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno Just had blood shooting out of my ear, but they fixed it. Still deaf though. Nice writing to you.
    4:36 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Lou Ferrigno
    @pennjillette You are so dramatic.
    4:41 PM – 23 Mar 12

    Penn Jillette
    @LouFerrigno Yes, I am. It’s what life is about. You like that drama too. We have that in common.
    4:43 PM – 23 Mar 12

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