Spoiler Update: Joanna Pacitti in the Top 36?

1.) Sigh

2.) Mark Ballas has a big mouth.

3.) Could he get her disqualified? Hmmmm….

1.) I usually need to have a contestant to hate on each season.

2.) I think Joanna’s the one.

1.) My heart is growing blacker by the minute.

2.) What if she’s really, really good and resistance becomes futile? :annoyed_tb:

I think this was a for gone conclusion, we all already have a feel for some of the people who will make the top 36 (Adam, Joanna, Von).

Biggest plant ever IMO

If Joanna has made it to the Top 36 this is strictly a “judges” decision. As of yet, she hasn’t performed for the masses, hasn’t really had her moment in the Idol fishbowl in front of millions of voting fans. Like Carly, she will probably have a tough time overcoming the biases of the internet junkies who will flood the web with details about her past life and past performing life. If she survives this, sings up a storm every week, and gets people over to her side….more power to her. She, and only she, has to emotionally survive the media hurricane that will inevitably ensue. I wouldn’t put myself OUT THERE, but then I don’t have a terrific EGO that needs to be constantly stroked.

She’s going to be fierce because she really really wants “it.” See my comments from the previous messages….my conspiracy? But with the type of background she has with record contracts, Broadway shows….something is missing about her…maybe a personal defect? or else she would have been a star by now.

She will not be getting my votes. She has had her chance or chances I should say to have a singing career. Let’s stick to what the show is supposed to be about. Taking truly talented unknowns and turning them into stars. I do not like the plants.

I disliked her when she seemed to be a spoiled little girl at age 12 … what hour news show was it that did the feature on her re annie firing?

I posted my thoughts on this in the Louisville Auditions recap post. Pacitti is American Idols version of re-gifting. Nobody wants it, so repackage it and present it as new. It’s just so lame. We don’t want recycled washed-up one hit wonders.

I don’t know if she is a plant just for the fact Simon has said publicly a male will win, so unless she is really hidding something I don’t think she’ll win.

I don’t think she’ll win either, but I’m afraid we’re going to be stuck with her for a while. Even if “America” doesn’t vote her through to Top 12, the judges will put her in anyway as a wild card if she’s one of their prized pets. So far I’m not a fan, but maybe she’ll grow on me like Carly did.

mmmmm doesn’t seem right that he could talk about that but what do I know……..oh wait, I know one thing, i’m not voting for her because to me she is not what Idol is about.

From the Yahoo homepage:

Failed pop star pollutes ‘Idol’

Anyway, I honestly can NOT believe the AmIdol producers are up to their old sneaky tricks in season 8. You’d think after all that Carly hullaballoo, they would steer clear of such blatant favoritism and the inclusion of what are known in the Idol blogosphere as “plants.” But…no. Along with an actual (Archuleta-associated!) Osmond and Jason Castro’s little brother, this season features a particularly poisonous plant: Joanna Pacitti.

Why would they stop? It’s controversy, baby. LOL.

One of my biggest problem with her is that you get the feeling, she has been in from the beginning like there are a game of doing favours in the play.

She is getting press since last summer and it nearly seems like a sure and paid spot for her.

And maybe to give Simon more drama for season 9, they could also give people a chance to vote for one person they want out. in the first 3 groups.
That would be interesting.

“Poisonous Plant”

Hehehe.

All this negativity saddens me.

I’ve been a Joanna fan for years now and I think she’s great. I really don’t see how she’s so different from Carly and a lot of her bashers eventually came to love Carly by the time she was eliminated and some of the people who had been so adamant about her not getting a second chance ended up being sad to see her go when she was finally eliminated.

I hope the same thing happens with Joanna, that Idol fans will eventually get over her previous record deal and such and go based on her talent. I think the girl has a great voice and I can’t wait to see her on the show.

I find it slightly irritating that no one is putting up a big hullabaloo about the country singer dude that sang the rock song. He’s been on soundtracks, a country TV show and blahddy blahddy blah, but no one’s yelling about him. Just wondering why he isn’t a big deal too? Or will that come around at the top 12 to keep the ‘controversy’ (aka press for AI) brewing?

Her telling her boyfriend is a big no-no. Him telling the masses is stupid.

I find it slightly irritating that no one is putting up a big hullabaloo about the country singer dude that sang the rock song.

Not his turn yet.

He’s next….

Does anyone know if the song on her album that is now on Britney’s album is a song she wrote by herself or is it just a song she has been given to sing written by company songwriter?

I was just on her Myspace page on Wed., and all of her music was still up. Either there was a glitch and it was back up temporarily, or she just took it down since the episode aired. If she did indeed just take the music down, if she had made the top 50, shouldn’t she have taken it down long ago?

Not his turn yet.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nextà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

lol! He definately is next, a lot of people don’t know about him yet. The probem is with this country guy he is already successful enough to make it the industry without idol, so what is he the show for again just exposure that’s all it as.

Im not naive, I know most of the people on this show have made albums already, but it’s a hell of a lot different when your apart of a big record label, get dropped and then you appear on this show. Johanna’s already had her big break and failed and yet she’s going to compete against people who are trying get their big break, it’s really not fair at all and that’s why we have a problem with people like Johanna.

I don’t think Joanna wrote anything on anybody’s album. I believe she performed “Out From Under” on the “Bratz” movie soundtrak. Britney’s album lists the writers of this song as Shelly Peiken, Arnthor Birgisson and Wayne Hector.

I am withholding judgment on her until the show plays out further. Carly certainly grew on me last year as well, so I’m not going to be quick to decide.

Nothing about JoPlanta surprises me.

I don’t blame her personally for being an opportunist-I mean, more people now know her name and music than ever before, due to the Idol publicity. Good for her. I do blame Idol for accepting anyone that has been with a major label-ever. The whole premise of the show is that someone AMAZING is plucked from obscurity and given a chance. That’s part of the problem too-her mediocrity. I think if she were extraordinary, people wouldn’t be minding as much.

And maybe to give Simon more drama for season 9, they could also give people a chance to vote for one person they want out. in the first 3 groups.

Oh please, this will be awesome, this way will know who America hates…

About the hold Joanna vrs. Carly comparition, I don ´t think Carly has as many chances as Joanna have had… I mean two record labels contract (I think they were two???), songs in movie soundtracks (Legally Blond and Bratz), Broadway… and I think somebody mentioned that one of her songs made it to Top40…

If she doesn’t get in the Top 12, I suspect a move a la Josiah Leming. I mean, it looks like she already has an awesome PR machine. She can be like the musical version of herpes. She’ll pop up every few years to remind us that she’s there.

I’m a little torn on this one. Yes, she had an album released on major label. And she’s been performing professionally – like REALLY professionally, as in met, hired by, worked with multiple top names in the business. That does not seem fair. At the same time, I know that labels are highly political places, and being released is only half the story. Did she get released with an actual label push? With a real promo budget? With competent people working her album? Or was she just dumped out there and left to dry? Because that’s not really like getting a real chance. To me, that’s just like MJ and Kristy, who’s music never saw the light of day.

Oddly enough I was way more offended by the Osmond than her. Heh. Then again, Katy Perry was signed and dropped a couple of times as well. So if that girl could keep going until things clicked, this girl could be able to do that too. The question is: should she be able to do it without Idol?

Did she get released with an actual label push? With a real promo budget? With competent people working her album? Or was she just dumped out there and left to dry?

That is from yahoo, which mentioned above

I actually remember, surprisingly vividly, when some people from her label came by the Yahoo! Music office a few years ago to play Joanna’s music video for the staff, in hopes of getting us all pumped up. They talked Joanna up excitedly for about 20 minutes, like she was Madonna, Janet, and Mariah all rolled into one

…wow, no wonder I thought she looked really familiar; I’d seen her album on a Circuit City shelf last summer. I actually really liked her audition, although I guess I have to wait and see/hear more to make any fair judgment.

The question is: should she be able to do it without Idol?

My question is: Why hasn’t she been able to do it without Idol?

I mean, Idol is only part of it, as we’ve heard so many other contestants say before. It’s only a springboard. If she gets on the show, gets exposed to 30 million people, and still doesn’t make it, then it’s a waste of my time and hers. Sometimes, it just isn’t meant to be, and chasing the ever-elusive dream can lead to desperation. It’s a desperation so palpable that it’s almost painful to watch.

So, I have to ask, how desperate is she, if at all?

Plus, amusingly, in an interview once, Pacitti was asked if it bothered her that TV shows like American Idol so rapidly churn out instant pop stars these days. She answered: “It’s handed to people way too easily. I’d rather have my experience than overnight success.”

Thanks anijsch. So according to that yahoo article, she seems to have gotten some label support. Interesting.

My question is: Why hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she been able to do it without out?

Well, like Katy Perry, maybe she just hasn’t hit the right combo of factors yet. That to me is not the problem. Its more like, is she in the position to generate more chances for herself without Idol?

I mean, in some ways she’s worse than Carly. Carly had no fanbase. Carly had no real exposure to the public beyond the NYT article. The girl had stopped working in the industry and was tending bar while singing in small clubs at night.

Joanna, on the other hand, has had a fanbase since childhood. she’s been getting on soundtracks. She’s known by big names. Her album just came out a couple of years ago! Shouldn’t she be able to get back in the game on her own? She’s gone beyond demo deals and singing backup. She’s been the star, the lead singer, the girl out front. For a while. So yeah, its different.

I think I’m making up my mind as I type.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been a Joanna fan for years now and I think sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great. I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so different from Carly and a lot of her bashers eventually came to love Carly by the time she was eliminated and some of the people who had been so adamant about her not getting a second chance ended up being sad to see her go when she was finally eliminated.

Last year, I was kind of outraged about the plants, but this year, I could care less. Michael Johns, Kristy and Carly were probably the biggest plants, but the American public still got to choose and they sent them all home early. I think the judging for them wasn’t unreasonably positive (and Carly may actually have gotten harsher comments than she deserved, IMO).

Personally, I can’t get outraged about plants anymore. People’s definitions of plants vary and it seems pretty obvious that some of these “I only ever sang to my cow” stories turn out to be not quite true (I think a lot of the stuff in the feature videos they play during the auditions is full of half truths and is related to that stuff that comes out of the other end of the cow). So, people have experience? Provided it’s not somebody who is actually been a big name (Brit and Miley should not audition), I think it’s fine. Somebody with a failed recording contract that sold 200 copies like Carly probably has fewer fans than some guy singing in bars who sold 270 copies of his homemade CD (number completely manufactured and not alluding to anybody at all. Really. Seriously. This probably fits about half the contestants that have been on AI. Buskers can sell that many of their CDs).

Carly didn’t win. She didn’t get a major recording contract (Kristy did, but got no promo, so she barely counts). All is right in my world. America picked their favourites. Now, I personally don’t care for Carly’s style/vibe/singing/whatever, but her being a plant became a non-issue for me.

So, I say, let this Annie chick have her chance. Since she makes the final 36, I personally will not hold her plantyness against her. Plants are a part of AI. I don’t think they are going away. If she entertains me, I want her to stay. I watch the show to be entertained. I accept that others watch for other reasons, so they can be outraged if they choose.

And maybe to give Simon more drama for season 9, they could also give people a chance to vote for one person they want out. in the first 3 groups.

Heh. AI voters are SMART. They will try to vote out the threats to their favourites (i.e. the most talented ones) and we’ll be left with a bunch of people who can barely sing in the finale.

So, I say, let this Annie chick have her chance. Since she makes the final 36, I personally will not hold her plantyness against her. Plants are a part of AI. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think they are going away. If she entertains me, I want her to stay.

The thing is the judges can manipulate the crap out of this season now that AI’s reverting to the old semifinals format. They pick the groups, pick the 3 wildcards.

While American could indirectly vote out the plants last year (MJ, Carly, Kristy), it’ll be a lot harder to this year especially if the judges take to liking the plants: the judges could pick them for the Top 36, and even if America doesn’t vote for them, pick them as wildcards. This is why I’m actually more outraged by the plants this year–but that’s just me.

I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m making up my mind as I type.

:laugh_tb:

I mean, in some ways sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s worse than Carly. Carly had no fanbase. Carly had no real exposure to the public beyond the NYT article. The girl had stopped working in the industry and was tending bar while singing in small clubs at night.

Joanna, on the other hand, has had a fanbase since childhood. sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been getting on soundtracks. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s known by big names. Her album just came out a couple of years ago! Shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she be able to get back in the game on her own? Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gone beyond demo deals and singing backup. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been the star, the lead singer, the girl out front. For a while. So yeah, its different.

I can definitely see what you’re saying. She’s not exactly a washed-up artist. Yeah, that makes sense.

The second I realize she’s not a threat, I’ll be fine.

For now, she ain’t alright.

If AI was trully the “amateur hour” some people envision it to be then most of the finalists from past years would not have been included. Of the top 10 from last year I believe 9 of the 10 had professional experience…..getting paid for what you do.

Unless AI says that you can never have received monetary gains from singing, whether solo, with a band, as part of a paid choir, etc. or released a cd to the general public then we will have to be patient with all of the “professionals” in the competition.

I think my problem is not with having “pros” in it per se. If you really have a passion for making music your career then I think it’s to be expected you’ve been trying to make a living in it before trying Idol. And I agree that these contestants make for much better, polished performers on the show.

In Joanna’s case though it’s just the number and the high level of her “breaks” that makes me feel like she’s had her shot already…to me that’s different from say, MJ or Carly who had record deals but not much exposure to speak of, and vastly different from a David, Blake, or Bo who’d been doing local gigs entirely on their own.

But – the average Idol viewer won’t know or care about any of this planty business and she has a charm to her that Carly lacked IMO. So it’s likely she’ll do well :/ Oh well, who knows…maybe she will win me over.

The thing is, I wasn’t offended by Carly at all. The only opposition I had to her was that Randy was rumored to be VP of A&R while she was signed, so that screamed conflict-of-interest to me. And most AI contestants have had something going on for themselves before they hit idol. I actually like the idea of someone whose put the time in to get seasoned getting in line for their big shot. It makes them better positioned to take advantage of the spotlight when its on them.

But the Osmond and now Joanna bother me. Not because they’ve been working at it for some time, and maybe had failures. But because they seem like they already have access to the mover and shakers. In real life, it is HARD to get a major label deal. Most of the time, they won’t even listen to your demo unless its been handed to them by a known industry lawyer, manager or other reliable source. So if you have access to those sources, and more than one of them, it seems like you don’t really need Idol. It is certainly within the rules as written however. So I guess we’ll just have to see what happens.

I wonder if TPTB specifically aired the Louisville auditions before SLC because when and if they show David Osmond’s audition, they’re hoping that all the Joanna stuff will be forgotten in the midst of all THAT outrage? Because you all KNOW that’s coming.

I know, I’m giving them too much credit, but it was just a thought in this conspiracy-theory-loving brain I have.

I wonder if TPTB specifically aired the Louisville auditions before SLC because when and if they show David Osmondà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s audition, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re hoping that all the Joanna stuff will be forgotten in the midst of all THAT outrage? Because you all KNOW thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coming.

I know, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m giving them too much credit, but it was just a thought in this conspiracy-theory-loving brain I have.

Putting MY conspiracy hat on….

While Osmond doesn’t end up making it to the Top 50, Joanna does. But by that time, her plantyness will be so overshadowed by Osmonds’ that she may be able to overcome the initial public dislike for her.

I hope she goes away. A self-produced album or winning Star Search when you were a toddler I could forgive but all this and chances at different points in her life, and she still hasn’t made it big? Something must be lacking for her not to have made it by now.

I wonder if TPTB specifically aired the Louisville auditions before SLC because when and if they show David Osmondà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s audition, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re hoping that all the Joanna stuff will be forgotten in the midst of all THAT outrage? Because you all KNOW thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coming.

Hard to say but it seems you do have a point regarding the JoPlanta controversy (even though we know David Osmond was cut). Also the fact they were so open about it makes me think they were trying to avoid a repeat of the damage control they had to do after Carly appeared.

Oh well, it was to be expected. But in the end, it’s still up to the people. The producers shoved Kristy, MJ and Carly down our throats last year and they still all got eliminated before the top 5. The public wants what it wants. I don’t think any amount of producer manipulation can make up for charisma and star quality that isn’t there.

The second I realize sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a threat, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be fine.

For now, she ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t alright.

I think you kinda said it all, really. It’s easy to be outraged when you like a contestant other than the ‘pro’ and to be okay with it when you do. I liked Carly – even though I did get frustrated with her at times – so she didn’t bother me, but I’m not impressed with Joanna at all and she does bug me a bit.

I think Simon asked the relevant question at the audition. What didn’t go right (at A&M), and was it really all their fault? Whatever that intangible thing is that successful performers have, they don’t seem to have. At least they don’t once they’ve reached that desperation point of trying for success on AI, because for someone like that this is a step down. Just like last year, no matter how many “plants” you have in the competition they can’t just go out there and win because of their prior experience. You need ‘it’ and an understanding of who you are as a performer. I’m not sure that Joanna has either.

I wonder if TPTB specifically aired the Louisville auditions before SLC because when and if they show David Osmondà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s audition, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re hoping that all the Joanna stuff will be forgotten in the midst of all THAT outrage? Because you all KNOW thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coming.

Oh man, I hope they air that. When is SLC? ‘Cause I want to have my popcorn ready that night.

I still don’t see why it’s such a big deal. Like some people have said, Carly didn’t win last year. But that wasn’t my point with comparing Joanna and Carly. My point was that a good few of the Idol fans who were “OMG! SHE SHOULDN’T BE ON THE SHOW!” when the season first started ended up actually liking Carly as the season progressed.

And as far as having “access” to big names…I would kind of think that if they had seen your album go nowhere, they wouldn’t really be jumping at the chance to help you release yet another one. Isn’t that why Carly didn’t have another album out even though she was “sisters” with that songwriter, Danielle B? I mean, if she had connections to that lady (as well as others who had helped with her album or heard about her album), surely they would have given her a second shot at an album deal, right?

As someone else suggested, sometimes you just don’t become big until it’s your time. I’ve heard of many, many singers and bands who released at least one or two albums before finally hitting it big with a single from their second or third album. Why is this any different? Why is it “well, if her first single didn’t become a huge hit, then she’s obviously not meant to be a star!”? Can anyone really honestly tell me that there are not singers and bands on movie soundtracks that are really, really good but go nowhere because they just aren’t noticed? I know that as a fan of movie soundtracks (seriously, I have lots – I love getting a variety of artists on one CD), there are LOTS of bands and singers that I love that have either never released an album or have released an album and it went nowhere. But that doesn’t make them any less talented or any less worthy of getting a second chance, in my opinion.

If I remember correctly, I seem to remember hearing that the Goo Goo Dolls didn’t hit it big (as far as commercial success) until their fifth album? So if we were going by this “your album failed, you missed your shot” logic, wouldn’t that mean that since their first four albums hadn’t sold well that they were just not meant to be?

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been a Joanna fan for years now and I think sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great. I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so different from Carly and a lot of her bashers eventually came to love Carly by the time she was eliminated and some of the people who had been so adamant about her not getting a second chance ended up being sad to see her go when she was finally eliminated.

I think she deserves a second chance as all second chancers deserve a second chance….but — why hasn’t she made it after all this time? I mean–Broadway, theatre, record contracts, TV shows — and we haven’t heard her name before this…..personality defect?

And as far as having à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“accessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to big namesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I would kind of think that if they had seen your album go nowhere, they wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really be jumping at the chance to help you release yet another one. Isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that why Carly didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have another album out even though she was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“sistersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  with that songwriter, Danielle B?

As someone else suggested, sometimes you just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t become big until ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your time.

Well, as the originator of both comments, I feel I should respond. I think you are right when you say that people sometime need multiple shots before everything clicks. (Obviously. I said it upthread. lol) You may need to find just the right songs at just the right time and work with just the right people to make it big. So I do not have a prob with second (or third, or fourth) chances.

I do think Idol is a valuable resource. Not only do you get a chance to build a fanbase, you get access to professionals who can give you advice on which sound and look work best for you, you get to work with a vocal coach and professional musicians, you get to experience the hectic high pressure life of a pop star to see if its truly for you. You get experienced performers of all types to mentor you. You get exposed to professional management and label reps. You even get to do an arena tour if you last long enough.

Here’s my problem… Joanna already has access to most of these things. Having been signed and dropped once can easily mean having contacts only with the people who dropped you. Having been signed & dropped, landed several soundtrack jobs, been on a reality show, been active in the business since childhood, and having an active fanbase? You should have multiple contacts, plenty of knowledge of how the business works, received plenty of advice from professionals, etc. That’s what I mean when I say why does someone like THAT need Idol? Look at her versus someone who is literally from the middle of nowhere. The girl has been in LA forever. I mean, COME ON. She may need more chances to click, but she can get chances herself. She can generate those chances on her own, she has everything she needs. She just needs to buck up and work at it, like all those groups you mentioned that had to keep plugging away.

That’s why I am resistant to someone like her on idol.

So, it gradually progresses. From someone who was signed by a major label and had a lot of money spent on making and marketing her album and still didn’t catch on…

… to someone who was first in a touring production of a Broadway show and was featured in a segment on a Barbara Walters show, then was picked up and developed by a major label, which included having a song not only on the soundtrack of a HUGE movie but also featured during said movie in a turning point scene…

… to what? Is someone like Ashlee Simpson next? Why not call it “Second (or third or fourth or fifth) Chance Idol” then?

From what I’m understanding and reading, Geffen took Joanna under their wing to develop her as an artist for FIVE YEARS with some heavy hitting songwriters and such. And yet, after all that time, she still didn’t make an impact on the music scene when her album was released.

Call it timing, call it whatever, but when AI calls itself a show about finding an undiscovered talent and turning them into a star, I feel like people who have already had numerous chances don’t belong. JMO.

This:

In Joannaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s case though ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just the number and the high level of her à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“breaksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  that makes me feel like sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s had her shot alreadyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦to me thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s different from say, MJ or Carly who had record deals but not much exposure to speak of, and vastly different from a David, Blake, or Bo whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d been doing local gigs entirely on their own.

and this:

Oh well, it was to be expected. But in the end, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still up to the people. The producers shoved Kristy, MJ and Carly down our throats last year and they still all got eliminated before the top 5. The public wants what it wants. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think any amount of producer manipulation can make up for charisma and star quality that isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t there.

hit the nail on the head, IMO.

I’m kinda too bored to get upset with the plants. It’s not against the rules, so they can play. I may be less inclined to vote for them unless they move me, but the more controversy it stirs, the more the producers will continue to do it. So, I’m not going to protest it.

ah. I’m getting sick of caring about who did what and how they got on the show. and I’m getting sick of being told not to like certain people because of their pasts. I’m just going to vote for who I like, regardless.

I think by now we all know that AI isn’t IT! Not all idols who have won this show have “made it” in the industry. Idol only seems to bring exposure and what the idols and in fact, finalists do with that exposure is up to them and the possible opportunities they get from being on the show.

So whatever happens with this girl on idol, will only be another step in her career and she will have to decide how to go forward…

TMZ has short snippets from Britney and Joanna’s version of “Out from Under”
Britney Gets Sloppy Seconds

She will not be getting my votes. She has had her chance or chances I should say to have a singing career. Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s stick to what the show is supposed to be about. Taking truly talented unknowns and turning them into stars. I do not like the plants.

Joanna does not belong on this show. Period. The sad part is that the judges will make sure she is in the TOP 12. Did you see Kara’s face light up when she came in? In the meantime, she will take the place of a guy or girl who is truly an undiscovered talent but needs many of the things Idol has to offer them.

The show is going in the wrong direction. I am not impressed with Joanna or her singing.

So, if this Joanna doesn’t make the top 2 will her parents sue the producers? LOL j/k

So, if this Joanna doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the top 2 will her parents sue the producers? LOL j/k

Heeee. It’s a hard-knock life….

No-one ever said that American Idol, was for the \”unknown\” People assumed it, by the way the show puts things out there, by advertising the terrible people who are the unknowns. It is not the contestants fault who goes through, it is the producers. The idiot auditions are what takes up the spots of truely amazing talent. This show is for everyone. And to just about pin point your articles, postings to one person who has audtioned, is passing judgement. There are more people on Idol past and present who have had past experiences, deals, and broadway work. There are some things going around…. Pacitti has never been on Broadway. Pacitti has only had 1 record deal not 2. She went through the same audition process just like everyone else. Looks like someones not doing there job and getting the facts. Arent we supposed to be teaching our kids, once knocked down, get up and try and try again? How about everyone deserves a second chance? Or how about, Look at those people never giving up on there dream… How about Joanna Pacitti being a role model for young people everywhere. And I also dont understand how you can take quotes from the most disrupting website on the internet, where people bad mouth others, with foul language, disrespect, and at times small threats. I guess that says alot about the world we live in today. That site is a site to sway peoples votes… How come you did not quote someone on there saying to a poster… \”You will vote for who we say to vote for\”? What ever happened to having your own mind and freedom of speach? This story can be good for young kids to read and watch, if you people learn how to put an actual \”good\” column together. How do any of us know what Joanna\’s life has been like? Have you or anyone else posting horrible things, there to hold her hand? To lend a shoulder to cry on? To tell her to pick herself up and keep going? Of course not…This is what is wrong with the world today and why there is so much hatred, and violence. No-one gives anyone a chance, not only on this show, but in all aspects of life. Judging a book by its cover, passing judgement, and not getting facts about things before tearing someone down or apart. I am sure I am not the only one with this point of view, try posting this in the paper, onwebsites ect.. and see what kind of replies you get…..

^^^Relative or friend of Joanna’s I take it. Show business is a “hard knock life” Surely Joanna must get that by now. If she doesn’t she needs to grow a thicker skin. Because it will get worse. My article was nothing.

And maybe you do too, while you’re at it.

I don’t feel sorry for Joanna. She is going to be featured on the biggest show on TV. She’s getting advance publicity right now, that NONE of the other kids are getting.

If she were wise, she’d take the situation and use it to her advantage once she hits the Idol stage. If she acts like a whining crybaby on camera, she’ll endear herself to no one.

Not a relative, just someone who has followed her for years. Joanna is indeed a strong person, and has held her head high, through many obsticles thus far. I am not complaining at all. I just think this story can do more good for young ones and teens, rather than making it look like she is doing something bad for following her dreams and doing everything she should to get there. At least she is not a drug addict, selling herself, and putting herself out there in any kind of bad way. I totally agree, “ANY” Publicity is GREAT Publicity. Just bothered about the way all of these sites, hear say, and articles, are making her seem like a bad person and unworthy. When she is the most kind hearted person, with a huge heart, and totally worthy. Tough and thicker skin is not even the statement for this line of work. So Glad I am not in it.. LOL

I just think this story can do more good for young ones and teens, rather than making it look like she is doing something bad for following her dreams and doing everything she should to get there.

It’s not my job to paint Joanna as some kind of role model for kids. She’ll have to do that herself.