So You Think You Can Dance Season 6 – Top 16 Results

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Ellenore and Ryan are in the bottom!

Kathryn and Legacy are safe!

Cat is soooo cute, I love her! Also, yay for Victor being safe!

The guy from Quest Crew (I forgot his name) is playing dance moves with a KMart crowd. Random. OK, he’s Dominic.

Another bottom couple coming up.

Ashleigh & Jakob – safe.

Pauline & Peter – bottom

Noelle & Russell – safe

Cat is so funny tonight. She toyed with Kathryn and Legacy so bad earlier, now she’s making fun of somebody in the audience.

Karen and Kevin – bottom!

Mollee and Nathan – safe!

Moans and groans. Nigel says America got it wrong! Spanking Nathan for his smart mouth. Bad Nathan – only safe because young ladies like him. Bitter much?

wow Nigel is going off… I figured Nathan and Mollee were teachers pets. This season is weird.

I’m not gonna watch the filler acts – switching over to Next Top Model. Be back later.

Not that it matters – heh.

Ummm…. Nathan is a phenom dancer – Overall he’s done better than Kevin for the first 3 weeks IMO. Kevin should have gone hope during Top 20 not Brandon.

I don’t care whether it’s Kevin or Peter who goes home.

For girls…. Pauline is the weakest for me.

Nigel is an Ass. Ok Nathan and Mollie had an off week. They are not horrible dancers. Beside the show is about picking America’s Favorite Dancer. Jerk. Rude, Obnoxious, and talk about immature. “You didn’t vote my way so I am going to reprimand you” Honestly even though Karen is hot and amazing I am not so impressed with Kevin. He was not that good yesterday.

I can’t edit for some reason. It should be “home” not “hope” {sigh}

Here’s my thing. Nigel had to have known coming in that Nathan was going to be a fan favorite, a) because they featured him last season, giving him the free pass straight to Vegas this season and b) because he’s a cute young boy. I have very little doubt that the sole reason Mollee was even put in the top 20 was to be Nathan’s partner, so they could be the “cute, young power couple.” They’re not hitting the bottom until top 10, at LEAST.

I understand that he wanted to slap Nathan’s hand because he thought Nathan’s comment last night was mouthing off or whatever, and he wants to teach him a lesson (I in no way think that was Nigel jumping off the bandwagon). But regardless of the intent of Nathan’s comment (and I’m sorry, but I’m not one for standing up on stage and saying “Yes, I know I was awful.” He could have handled it better, but I think he was just trying to make light of the situation), the solution, Nigel, is NOT to embarrass him on live television. Some things can, and should, be handled off camera. That was just awkward and, imo, mean.

I really think that Nigel’s comments were both out of line and totally unnecessary. I think that Nathan is one of the best dancers on the stage and had a medicore performance last night but the whole dance just plain sucked. There was no need to slap the audience in the face for voting for him.
I really think he could win the whole competition and I said that from day one.
Nigel you keep reminding us every week that this is America’s favorite dancer not America’s best dancer…so shut the Fuck up!

Ellenore’s solo was weird and jerky to me.

Ryan is putting on a show! He’s the Donny Osmond of this crowd.

Pauline – doing a better job than Ellenore to me.

I missed Karen and Peter – how’d they do? Kevin looked great, but he always looks great alone. That partner stuff drags him down.

Ellenore’s solo was weird and jerky to me.

I prefer to call it quirky, but I loved it!

Ryan was solid.

I used Pauline’s solo for a bathroom break because I thought they’d show all six in a row.

That was a boring tap solo. Tap can be very entertaining, but this just wasn’t.

Karen was ok I guess. I was too busy typing to really notice. I guess I assume she’s safe.

Kevin’s solo was better than Peter’s but do we really need three hip hop-ish dancers? Legacy and Russell have it covered IMO.

I think it should be Kevin and Pauline who go.

My goodness, Cat’s legs look very thin. She’s so beautiful, but this startled me!

MJ, I couldn’t locate the pool for voting, but I did send you an email predicting that Pauline and Peter would be going home.

Now the results…

WTF is up with Nigel?

What the fuck Nigel, calm down. Also, Kayla and good solos are not two things that belong together.

Nigel needs to take himself a little less seriously. He is really out of control tonight…don’t tell the audience to shut up…you are an a$$hole Nigel…think much of yourself?

Also, Kayla and good solos are not two things that belong together.

LMAO

Pauline is gone!

Jennifer and Erin are gone! No wait – that’s Top Model. Sorry.

Kevin is safe.

Peter is gone!

Ahhh rayni no I was taping antm!! Thats okay though, I hate erin so thats good news.

I thought pauline deserved to go, but would have preferred Kevin over Peter.

I’m ok with who went home this week. But Nigel needs to get a grip. I vote for sending him home next.

Nigel has been a complete utter jerk tonight. I really think Kevin should have went home. He is not the best hip hop/break dancer (They already have two others) and he had the weakest solo. IMHO. If he was so much better then Peter I could maybe understand but he is not. Peter I think is better.

What was all the crap telling them their solos weren’t as good as last season’s contestants. Well Last season’s contestants weren’t as good as prior season’s and I didn’t here him tell them that. I love the show bet I am really hating Nigel and thinking about not watching anymore.

Also, Kayla and good solos are not two things that belong together.

In the words of Artie Abrams – PREACH. LOL.

That was the first thing I thought when he included Kayla in with Brandon, Ade, & Jeanine (who were, in fact, fantastic soloists).

Nigel just needs to calm down and get his panties out of a wad.

Ahhh rayni no I was taping antm!!

Nooooo! I’m so sorry!!!

Well mmm i’m in the minority as usual but I thought Nigel was right with what he said. I didn’t want anyone in the bottom 6 to go but whatev.

I have very little doubt that the sole reason Mollee was even put in the top 20 was to be Nathan’s partner,

I never even thought of that but it does make perfect sense and although I did agree with what Nigel said I don’t know why he’s making a fuss about the results, they even eluded to what was going to happen last night so it’s no shocker. He must have known Nathan would pull in huge numbers of votes when he cast him.

Anyway, I thought the opening routine from Dave Scott was great and I didn’t think the solo’s were bad at all, certainly not worse than last season.

Nigel is an ARSE and a half. He can’t stand the young cute frontrunners. Look at how he treated David Archuleta. Now Nathan?? Good golly.

First of all, the previous poster is right.. Nathan is a phenom. He isn’t there only b/c of his looks. He’s one of the best dancers there, he deserves to be there. Nigel is just jealous b/c Nathan is a million times better looking than him, he can’t stand that there is so much beauty and talent in one body, just like he couldn’t stand that about David (hahaha, but it’s true). Wow, Nigel is just a bitter old man!

Second of all, all the talk about the awesome solos last year. ??? WTF? Kayla had the most gosh-awful solos ever last year. Nigel is losing his memory too! Oh, now I’m beginning to feel sorry for the old fart.

Third of all, and back to Nathan.. he did not mean to be rude last night to Nigel. He was simply trying to blow off an awkward question and make light of it. Boo hiss once again to Nigel for not being able to identify a joke from what he thought was rudeness. Gosh, how does Nigel get along at parties and social events, the cad?

Third of all, and back to Nathan.. he did not mean to be rude last night to Nigel. He was simply trying to blow off an awkward question and make light of it. Boo hiss once again to Nigel for not being able to identify a joke from what he thought was rudeness. Gosh, how does Nigel get along at parties and social events, the cad?

Correct he wasn’t being rude. He was just trying to come across positive. They were ripping them apart. Telling the both of them that they had weaknesses and that they were not that good. I think Nathan was trying his best to turn around all the negative energy that was being thrown at him. What was he suppose to do say your right vote me off. What lessen did they need to learn that sending them home would teach them. It’s a contest and staying as long as you can in it is what it is all about. If you did not dance well that week you try to win votes by personality. I believe even his rudeness Nigel has even said something as much. I did not take Nathans “I feel Hot” as talking back or in anyway trying to disrespect Nigel. On the other hand Nigel was a total (fill in your own BAD word)

I honestly think that Nigel owes Nathan an apology. It’s ridiculous that he went on like that only to embarrass Nathan and admonish the audience for voting for them. The crowd in the audience was totally not in his corner and they will show him so by continuing to vote for Nathan…
as they should..he is definitely gettin to the finals…so screw you Nigel

Too bad no tappers left, but I think the judges made the right decisions…

I missed what happened with Nathan…

“I honestly think that Nigel owes Nathan an apology. It’s ridiculous that he went on like that only to embarrass Nathan and admonish the audience for voting for them. The crowd in the audience was totally not in his corner and they will show him so by continuing to vote for Nathan’ ¦
as they should..he is definitely gettin to the finals’ ¦so screw you Nigel”

Nathan in the Finals? LOL

Wow, I don’t know if you’re just being facetious or if you’re really that delusional.

soccerboi, ya got some strong homo love for nathan or what?

I don’t watch this show that closely, but I thought the cute girl eliminated tonight was just fantastic.

I also thought Nigel came down really hard and rude on Molly and Nathan. I would love that kind of honesty on AI, even though I was cringing during Niglel’s “speech”. Very rude.

I thought Molly and Nathan were terrible last night, but it was the first set of videos I watched this season so can’t put it in proper context, I don’t think.

Peter looks a lot like one of my nephews, so despite that superficial basis, I am sad to see him go.

Well I was right on the other thread “who’s going home”. Pauline and Peter. I don’t think P & P made a good enough impression with their dances.

Nigel was being a dick tonight though… telling the audience to shut up and talking down to Nathan. The audience is a reason your show is a success Nigel.

Sorry, guys but I strongly disagree with your Nigel bashing. The guy is trying to put on a successful TV show, and in order to do that, he needs these dancers to be giving everything they’ve got. Honestly, many of them just aren’t.

I’m not defending Nigel cause I like the guy. Sometimes he drives me mad, but in this case, I think he’s absolutely right. I think many of the dancers are not immersing themselves in the dances to the degree we’ve seen in past season. I completely agree with Nigel on that point. Mollee and Nathan could have put together a much better performance. The same goes for Eleanor and Ryan. I’m not saying it would have been perfect but with more dedication, at least it wouldn’t have been downright painful to watch. Nigel knows what they’re capable of and yes, if he needs to scold them on national TV to get them to shape up, then so be it. After the solos, I felt exactly the same way. None of them were very good. Ryan, especially, didn’t even seem prepared to nail the tricks he attempted. Bad form.

Nigel needs these kids to be at the top of their game, not preening in front of the camera cause they made it onto prime time TV. If this show doesn’t pick up the caliber of the dancing, it’s over. I thought Nigel was incredibly candid in saying that this season was not living up to the hype they were promoting. Gutsy, but true.

ETA: I wouldn’t be surprised if they intentionally paired Mollee and Nathan together to bring in the youth vote. No problem with that. But that shouldn’t give them any kind of pass to do anything short of performing their butts off. And this week, they got just such a pass from the voters. If you are a lover of dance, you just hate to see that happen, which is exactly what Nigel was saying.

Of course, Nigel was rude to Nathan. It seems to me this was planned at least a week ago. Is it scripted? Yes, but Nathan was not in on it. Look at what we are talking about. This is exactly the response Nigel wants.

Why? Because he wants to make sure his most adorable couple is in the final ten. This embarassment tonight will add more Nathan/Mollee fans. All as planned!

Nigel also wants Ryan and Karen in the Final 10. They absolutely need Ryan due to the lack of ballroom dancers. One of the hip hop guys will be going home soon. Then they will invite him on the tour.

Sorry, guys but I strongly disagree with your Nigel bashing. The guy is trying to put on a successful TV show, and in order to do that, he needs these dancers to be giving everything they’ve got.

I agree with the point that the contestants should be rehearsing and performing to the best of their ability every week. Obviously.

But I do NOT believe that the answer to that problem is a scolding on national tv. It just makes Nigel look bad and made this viewer feel awkward. And in fact, it’s probably just going to fire up voters who like Nathan and/or Mollee to vote for them even more – whether they step it up or not. He should KNOW that after 7 seasons of American Idol and 5 seasons of So You Think You Can Dance.

Nigel trying to produce a television show is no excuse for him to be completely rude to an 18 year old (and that contestant’s fans! The very people who WATCH his damn show.) on national television, IMO. As I said – there are some things that could and should be dealt with in private.

Well, in my view, I think Nigel was saying what alot of the viewers were thinking. For me it was a refreshing breath of honesty, something these shows could use. Sometimes the truth involves the risk of turning some people off. The worst dancers of the night weren’t even in the bottom three? How could that be? The judges warned us in advance that these guys had a huge fanbase, and sure enough, they were right. Maybe they feel its getting out of hand, and they’re trying to reel it back in. Facing it head on was smart, IMO. You’re going to get alot of people unhappy with you whatever you do.

Nigel really turns me off when he gets that angry look and screams, “Shut up!” to the show’s guests. He often emphasizes that the show is for entertainment while HE is punishing. (Simon does even worse on Idol and X Factor) I’m about at the end of the line with these shows — as with the X Factor because the talent is NOT the best with the exception of Adam and a few others and the rich and powerful judges often talk to the contestants and the “peanut gallery” disrespectfully. Also, too many of this season’s dance numbers are mundane and boring. I don’t think Nigel should blame the dancers as much as the fact that some of the choreographers are being misdirected or are not being imaginative enough. The show has decided to include more dance styles. Instead of choreographing to the strengths of disparate styles — enabling them to merge (as they did in the famous “Hummingbird” number), they are trying to force both dancers into a mediocre performance of something neither does well. A good example, is the cleverness of the choreographer for Legacy tonight. Although Legacy had to stretch, many of his moves and patterns were actually his own style. Particularly with the tappers, choreographers failed to cleverly include any tap moves into the numbers. So, why did they even bother to have 3 tappers. It “slowed down” the show and did not give either tappers or their partners a fair chance to shine. They even brought in a new choreographer to create a dance that could include Russell’s unique style. Consequently Russell looks spectacular and entertains. All these dancers are capable but Nigel is making poor executive decisions. So, why is he screaming at everybody else? I’m sick of him. (Hope he reads this!)

Bravo, Nigel, for admitting that Season 6 is not the greatest season ever. And, I think he was right to let Nathan know it’s wrong to coast on his looks. He & Mollee were terrible last night. They should be shamed into trying harder. Hopefully, lesson learned.

I’m so glad Karen & Kevin and Ellenore & Ryan were saved.

I do agree that it was a breath of honesty, but I think he was a little out of line. Maybe an understatement, but I don’t like the whole “comparing people” thing that the judges usually do on this show and American Idol, that’s just gonna lead to disappointment. And Nigel was extremely harsh tonight. Ouch.

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11/12/2009 at 12:12 am

Well, in my view, I think Nigel was saying what alot of the viewers were thinking. For me it was a refreshing breath of honesty, something these shows could use. Sometimes the truth involves the risk of turning some people off. The worst dancers of the night weren’t even in the bottom three? How could that be? The judges warned us in advance that these guys had a huge fan base, and sure enough, they were right. Maybe they feel its getting out of hand, and they’re trying to reel it back in. Facing it head on was smart, IMO. You’re going to get alot of people unhappy with you whatever you do.
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Well if that were the case then Nigel should be consistent every week with every dancer and criticize then all so harshly but he doesn’t he makes excuses for some and not for others. He tries to manipulate votes. If you don’t like how the audience is voting then change the rules and only have the judges vote. Oh but then who would watch? He is Always saying this is for America’s Favorite Dancer. Now Yes Nathan and Mollie were not great this week but every other week they have been outstanding. So they had an off week no reason to destroy them. All he needed to say is you guys were not up to par and need to do better and that he was disappointed. Instead he was cruel, obnoxious and out of line. What was Nathan suppose to do…Yes vote me off I was bad….. He is trying to win a competition. . How many time has the judges gotten rid of someone who had the better solos but tell everyone that they take into account how they performed the whole time on the show. Well if the judges can why the hell can’t we? What you call honesty I call bullying and crap. How is belittling and embarrassing anyone
constructive criticism or going to help them. So you don’t misunderstand. Having issue with the way they danced and calling them on it is one thing but he went way beyond. I also think he totally misread Nathans response to Cat’s question last night.

Thank goodness Nigel and company FINALLY realize that Season 6 is severely lacking in comparison to last season! It’s about freakin time! He was right, these dancers are not half the dancers of Season 5. Not even close. The only thing I’m bummed about is that we still have to put up with the overly self indulgent Karen for probably more weeks to come – blech!

Well, dhunken, since you asked, I can think of lots of responses Nathan could have had. He could have said “Yeah, this dance got the best of me, but I learned alot in the process and you can bet I’ll show you next week”. Or, “Thanks Nigel, I value your feedback and it does help me understand what I need to work on”. Or, “Yeah, I got a little overconfident. This was a big wakeup call”. But then again, he’s still a kid and from what I can tell, he hasn’t yet grown into his maturity yet. I also want to say that I have liked some of Nathan’s dancing so none of this is personal.

I really don’t think Nigel was out to ‘destroy’ anyone or that he was overly harsh. If this was truly a judged dance competition, Mollee and Nathan would probably not even still be in the contest. But since the judges only have so much power at this point, they can only use their pulpit to give constructive feedback to the kids (which they’re doing) and also educate the audience about dance hoping that some of that information will filter into the voting decisions.

Of course we’re free to give dancers a pass on off weeks. Thats very different than having a huge block of teenagers voting feverishly for Nathan cause he’s so cute. I think any adult dance lover would get tired of that on a serious dance show such as this one. Obviously with the kind of diverse audience the show has, I’m sure Nigel is trying to hold onto all viewers. It’s a tricky balance to please both the kids who are more likely to vote purely on ‘hot’ factor versus those who are watching to see great dance.

He is Always saying this is for America’s Favorite Dancer. Now Yes Nathan and Mollie were not great this week but every other week they have been outstanding. So they had an off week no reason to destroy them. All he needed to say is you guys were not up to par and need to do better and that he was disappointed. Instead he was cruel, obnoxious and out of line.

^This. Yes.

I see Karen and Kevin have perfected the Aaron Carter death stare.

wait. are Victor and Channing already eliminated? or did mj just forget to list their names?

“Correct he wasn’t being rude. He was just trying to come across positive. They were ripping them apart. Telling the both of them that they had weaknesses and that they were not that good. I think Nathan was trying his best to turn around all the negative energy that was being thrown at him. What was he suppose to do say your right vote me off. What lessen did they need to learn that sending them home would teach them. It’s a contest and staying as long as you can in it is what it is all about. If you did not dance well that week you try to win votes by personality. I believe even his rudeness Nigel has even said something as much. I did not take Nathans ‘I feel Hot’  as talking back or in anyway trying to disrespect Nigel. On the other hand Nigel was a total (fill in your own BAD word)”

ITA w/you, dhunken. Nathan just turned 18, he tried to lighten up a very uncomfortable moment, and Nigel berated him on national TV. I think he owes Nathan and Molly an apology – along with the audience for telling them to “shut up.”

“wait. are Victor and Channing already eliminated? or did mj just forget to list their names?”

Victor and Channing were the first couple to be announced as safe tonight. They are missing from the list.

movin2thabeet I will humbly agree to disagree with you. Nathan is the novice and the young adult. Did he handle the situation perfectly…No but also not horrendously. Nigel on the other hand is the adult is the professional and could have handle the situation in a much better manner. Being he is the Adult I find him more culpable on the issue. As far as why Nathan and Molly stayed. You think it was because of the cute factor….I think it was because Nigel berated them and the fact they have danced very good prior weeks. Neither of us know for sure. I think there was a lesson to be learned by everyone on that stage tonight.

hmm i disagree with most of you – molly & nathan turned in 2 awful performances in a row. they totally sucked at bollywood too. just compare them to crispness & athleticism of katee/joshua or even caitlin/jason and you’ll see how sloppy & imprecise their performance was.

season 5 was my first sytycd season, and it was awesome – professional, classy, high standards, all 20 contestants who “brought it” week by week. their top-20 round was such a fantastic show. even the voting was spot-on: ppl got voted off in pretty much the order you’d have expected them to (only evan was the exception). finally, i liked that they had subdued personalities – they put their fire into their performances instead of into entitled on-camera posturing.

i wonder of summertime viewership brings a different audience who is willing to vote more in line with performance, rather than forming fan bases that ignores performance in favor of “favoriteness”?

“Thank goodness Nigel and company FINALLY realize that Season 6 is severely lacking in comparison to last season! It’s about freakin time! He was right, these dancers are not half the dancers of Season 5. Not even close. ”

Sunshinegirl – ITA with you about this. Maybe this group of dancers are exceptional in their own styles, but in terms of versatility, I haven’t seen it yet. In fact, I don’t think this group of dancers matches S4 either in terms of dancing ability – at least not yet. Besides Nathan and Molly I haven’t seen any booming personalities yet, either. Maybe the personalities are being edited out.

What gets me about Nigel ripping into Nathan is this…. OK the Salsa he and Mollee did was not great. And I don’t think Nathan meant to be rude. But big deal, the Salsa wasn’t perfection. The other weeks those 2 have been fantastic. I loved loved their Bollywood routine. They didn’t deserve the bottom imo because overall they are way better than most of the couples. My personal favorites are Legacy and Kathryn. More him than her but she’s coming up. 2 of the 3 couples in the bottom last night absolutely deserved to be there imo, Ellenore and Ryan and Paulina and Peter. I think the right ones went home. As for Karen and Kevin, ok maybe dance wise they didn’t deserve it but they went first, were average and don’t have great personalities. It wasn’t Nathan and Mollees fault it was them. For all we know they were the bottom vote getters. Nigel needs to pull the stick out of his you know what. I am rooting for Legacy and Jakob at this point.

Honestly, I think Nigel is just off his meds or something.

I actually kind of agreed with him about Mollee and Nathan, who looked to me like they weren’t even trying in the salsa, and who I don’t think have lived up to expectations at all in the previous weeks either. But certainly there was no point to going off on Nathan to the point that he did, especially since Nathan’s comment really wasn’t the problem at all — it was their dancing and their chemistry. … And of course Nige took it way too far.

But what makes me think that Nigel is having some kind of Simon-Cowell-style personal mood problem is his essentially saying that those were the six worst solos he’s ever seen. Seriously? I’ve seen a *lot* of mediocre solos on the show, worse than any of those six, I think. While I’m not a huge Ryan fan, for example, I actually thought that, for a ballroom solo, he made a pretty good effort to be interesting, do something different, etc.

Maybe Nigel’s back or his hernia or whatever he had operated on this summer is acting up again. He was just over the top the whole evening.

*It* will hurt Nathan in his dancing career no matter you think it’s cool or who’s right or rong . he is 18 & so talent If there’s no proper way to fix .Even Nigel hasn’t say anything since because of the pressure still : Belive it it’s very bad for Nathan in his dancing career .Bless him !!

He was right, these dancers are not half the dancers of Season 5.

Remember Nigel chastised many excellent auditioners for not having “personality” and cut them. He casted what he thought were personalities. Now he’s chastising the dancers for not dancing as well as S5? Well duh…… he should have cast the best dancers to begin with.

Viewers saving a couple that had an off week is nothing new, and voting for a couple they like better over dancing is nothing new. It’s been happening since Season 1 (Blake getting cut Top 6 instead of whatshisname hip hop guy for example).

The only thing that has changed is that Nigel openly berated his audience (and Nathan). Not a smart move IMO. The tweenies will only circle their wagons and vote that much more.

wow i felt uncomfortable watching Nigel shred Nathan last night. it was a little to personal if u ask me. it was one mistake, coming off a good week for them so i didn’t get what the hoopla was abt. unless things are happening behind the scenes that we don’t know abt. why did they pair the 2 (a little immature)18 yr olds together in the first place. an older partner cld help either of them in behavior dept.

I can bet if Nathan was in the bottom , they wld have still sent the tap guy home. they were obviously there so the show can say they had tappers on this season. so shut the drama Nigel.

Drama = good ratings. Nigel was over the top in my opinion. I cringed for Nathan. He (Nathan) was out of line for not taking the criticism seriously but Nigel went overboard with it. Then yelling at the audience to shut up. ehhhh. Maybe he really is passionate about dance and wants Nathan to succeed? And knows that Nathan needs to check himself and get serious. He was completely wrong in saying that a dancer was going home that shouldn’t because of it though. Nathan never would have been sent home regardless of being in the bottom three. So no harm no foul there. Oh wait… maybe he meant Mollee?

I did not take Nathans ‘I feel Hot’  as talking back or in anyway trying to disrespect Nigel. On the other hand Nigel was a total (fill in your own BAD word)

Me either. My 17 year old daughter who has been watching reality/voting competitions for YEARS has finally decided to vote. She was so worried about Nathan after his terrible salsa routine, (and it was terrible) that she spent the next hour hitting redail.
She was utterly incensed with anger at Nigel last night. She kept repeating “Poor Nathan”.
I wonder if this was the response Nigel was looking for? Something tells me it was.

I was so mad at Nigel for humiliating and already shy boy – I am a shy person and I know how Nathan felt, he is not an eloquent speaker and he was trying to be funny, lighten up the situation when he said hot, I think and Nigel was the biggest ass for calling him out like that, right after Adam said this is about Americas favorite dancer then Nigel yells at America for voting for their favorite! He says they need to vote for the best dancer and in his opinion it is that sexy girl – they contradicted themselves. Just because HE and Adam are foaming at the mouth over her doesnt mean America has to!!

Well if that were the case then Nigel should be consistent every week with every dancer and criticize then all so harshly but he doesn’t he makes excuses for some and not for others.

I actually thought that he has been making excuses for Mollee and Nathan — and way overpraising them — in the two previous weeks, when I thought they were okay but not in the least deserving of the gushing praise that was being heaped on them as this fabulous dream team. Maybe Nigel thinks so too and this week he tried to compensate — but ended up overcompensating, in typical Nigel-the-grump fashion. I’m sure that nobody has ever given NL high marks on “diplomacy” or “works well with others.” But I’m equally sure that, if you look only at *dancing* in the style you are given, Mollee and Nathan haven’t deserved anything close to “outstanding” marks for any performance they’ve given yet — which, to me, is frankly unacceptable for people who’ve been hyped as big stars of the season.

These rants always have a purpose. Was Nathan and Mollee’s fan base so big already that they are afraid of a runaway win by a couple they put in for interest but not to win? Do they want Nathan to win and he was becoming over confident and they felt it would hurt him in the long run?(maybe he didn’t work hard this week) Are ratings down and they want drama discussions at the water cooler? Manipulation– business as usual.

It’s too bad Nigel hasn’t figured out after five seasons that he really needs to learn to STFU! He definitely knows How to Lose support and Alienate Voters, though, that’s for sure. He’s already off to a great start. Thanks to Nigel everyone knows that the wrong favorites were chosen, and Russell is the star of the season. So don’t vote for your favorite, vote for Russell or Nigel will be completely disrespectful and have another hissy fit! LMAO!

“”But I’m equally sure that, if you look only at *dancing* in the style you are given, Mollee and Nathan haven’t deserved anything close to ‘outstanding’  marks for any performance they’ve given yet ‘” which, to me, is frankly unacceptable for people “”

Oh, I completely disagree with this, I was prepared to dislike Mollee but couldnt, they have been wonderful and outstanding in their previous dances but so have Kevin and hot girl – they just goofed this week

“”vote for Russell or Nigel will be completely disrespectful and have another hissy fit! LMAO!”"

and hot sexy girl or he will yell at us again and tell us to shut up if we disagree with him!

The grassy-knoll notion (that Nigel chewed out Nathan in order to galvanize his fans) might be true, but I heard something else in his comments. Both Tuesday night and Wednesday night, he mentioned the need for Nathan to keep his feet on the ground. Tuesday he said maybe now Nathan (and Mollee?) will realize they’re not great at everything. What I heard there is that maybe there’s been some things going on backstage, with Nathan acting like he’s really hot stuff. Maybe he hasn’t been working terribly hard. He knows he’s gifted, he knows he’s cute, maybe he’s just been coasting–while other dancers (even some who seemed a bit full of themselves earlier, like Legacy) have been working their fannies off and learning and growing.

I think Nigel just got fed up with that, especially since he has kind of given N&M a pass the last couple of weeks. I don’t think he wanted them voted off, but he probably wanted them to land in the B3 just to wake them up, get them to take the work more seriously.

It was remarkable to hear him go an at length about it, and I think he could have made his point more briefly. I think the audience’s rudeness–booing while he was talking–got him even more angry.

I think the comments here about Nigel trying to balance the various audiences and kinds of appeal (cuteness, personality, technical skill, expressive power, star power, etc) are right on. He does want cute & perky and the young audience those traits bring in, but not at the expense of dancing skill. And he REALLY doesn’t like giving a golden opportunity to a dancer who doesn’t recognize it as an opportunity to learn and improve and get even better than he already is.

Ohhhhhhhh, snap, Nigel was out for blood last night. And good for him. I can understand his frustration at Nathan, and I have no issue with him berating the kid. He has done it in the past during the auditions, we’ve seen clips of it. I credit him for feeling enough passion for this show AND this kid, to try and set him straight.

So far, Nathan has failed to prove why he deserves a top 10 spot. His dancing has been extremely poor in quality and that’s disappointing considering his amazing audition and solos. I didn’t read it as Nigel having an issue with Nathan being popular, more so with Nathan allowing his popularity to carry him to the finals. That shows a lack of respect for the profession and the show.

*also, we aren’t prudent to any back stage drama…there could have been feedback, comments from others (particularly choreographers) on the work ethics of both mollee and nathan. Which might have fueled Nigel’s comments.

and i don’t give a flying whoot about their age…..there have been many performers on this show at the same age, without the immaturity.

Oh, I completely disagree with this, I was prepared to dislike Mollee but couldnt, they have been wonderful and outstanding in their previous dances but so have Kevin and hot girl ‘“ they just goofed this week

we’re probably watching different shows LOL

their work has been sloopy. I think the fun of the dances…the disco and bollywood (flips, costumes, fun songs) have distracted from their technical skills.

its funny that the judges said Pauline looked like a “classroom dancer”…when ive been thinking the same about Mollee for weeks. i can walk into any advance modern dance class in middle america, and find the same level of quality. yawn. compare her to the top 5 girls from last season…she is miles behind them all in skill level. and so far, has yet to show growth.

their work has been sloopy. I think the fun of the dances’ ¦the disco and bollywood (flips, costumes, fun songs) have distracted from their technical skills.

Yeah, that’s the show I’ve been watching, too. … What I haven’t seen from Mollee and Nathan is them really immersing themselves in the new styles of movement that they’ve been asked to learn. Yeah, they’ve accomplished the steps and the basic moves and the tricks — in the previous two weeks, at least; in the salsa, not so much, like, where was the hip action? where was the movement to the danged beat? — but I haven’t seen them committed to the dances or to their pairing at *all.* The first two weeks they were really just awright for me, dawg, nothing more. And then this week … they bombed. For me, that’s just not enough to be the golden children, when other people, to my eyes, have both tried a lot harder and succeeded a bit more, with possibly less innate ability to work with.

“and i don’t give a flying whoot about their age’ ¦..there have been many performers on this show at the same age, without the immaturity.”

ITA! Why do people excuse Nathan’s childish outburst because “he’s just a kid”? Jeanine was 18 when she won and she never acted with such a lack of humility. Channing, Noelle and Ariana are 18, Jakob, Ellenore, Kathryn and Pauline are 19. None are acting so immaturely, even though some of them are really gifted and being told so each week. Mollee (18) is certainly immature, but at least she seemed humbled by her poor performance. Nathan looked like he just didn’t care, probably b/c he knows he has a large fan base to save him.

How insulting to the other dancers who obviously take this competition seriously and have to DANCE WELL to get votes, especially since six of them ended up in danger when his performance was ridiculously bad.

I’ll bet many of the other dancers would love to slap a bit more color into those rosy little cheeks of his.

First. Nigel was amazingly rude to the audience. If they do not want audience reaction, then they shouldn’t encourage it. He actually scolded the audience – rather harshly I might add.

Second. I don’t know why I feel I have to justify what I am about to say by saying that I don’t care for either Nathan or Molee, but I do so there it is. I did not get that Nathan was being disrespectful or that he “didn’t get it”. On the contrary – I think he really got it. He just got done listening to all of the judges completely tear apart his work and throughout their critiques you could see it in his face that he knew they were right. Throughout all this, he never said a word or made a disrespectful face. When Kat asked her question, I think he felt the answer was so obvious that he tried to give a sarcastic response. Granted, it didn’t work but I think that’s where he was going with it.

Third. IMO Nigel came out of it all looking worse than Nathan did.

BTW – that group number to open the show was one of my favorite group numbers ever.

Zuper – ITA. Every single word. That’s what I’d been trying to say, but you were much more concise & eloquent.

Also, big YES to the group number. I LOVE Dave Scott & his choreo. He & Shane Sparks are both fantastic. Sadly, I don’t think Shane will be doing any choreo this season as I think he’s in NY in Dreamgirls. But the should CERTAINLY make as much use of Dave Scott this season as they can.

edit nvm virginia is banned…

Just to clarify my earlier comments: Nathan’s “I felt hot” remark was not a big part of them. What struck me, on Tuesday already (even before his results show rant) were Nigel’s comments that now maybe Nathan would realize he’s not great at everything, and maybe now he’d keep his feet on the ground. That hinted at something behind the scenes, along the lines of “he’s not working very hard or taking the work seriously.”

I don’t know if it’s true, but this explanation makes sense to me, because it fits Nigel’s prior strong support of Nathan and his disappointment in Nathan’s less-than-stellar performances to date (particularly this week’s dreadful salsa, which can’t be blamed entirely on Mollee–although heaven knows she didn’t help).

And I DO think the audience was rude. Nigel didn’t want to muzzle them completely; he just wanted to be able to make his comments without interruption. Audience members were welcome to boo or cheer after that.

FWIW, I think AI has encouraged this incredibly rude behavior by audiences–how many times have we seen Randy urge the crowd to boo while Simon is talking? I’m no fan of Simon’s, but really–how childish can you get? Let him spout whatever phooey he wants to, and THEN boo the *** out of him.

Then again, if you’ve ever watched BBC coverage of the goings-on in Parliament, you’ve seen that catcalls during a speech are standard procedure in the stuffy, proper, ever-so-polite UK. Go figure.

I’m not a fan of Twitter but Nigel did make 2 posts after last night’s show:
Here’s the link

I should not have told the audience to “shut up” tonight. Unfortunately their mindless catawauling got the better of me on that ocassion.

Nothing like apologizing with another insult. Now the viewers are “mindless” because they disagreed with him.

Thanks for all your wonderful support. I’m glad so many realize that we are a professional competition and need to maintain credible results

Was anyone really questioning the results other than Nigel?

ETA: E! backstage link

Nothing like apologizing with another insult. Now the viewers are ‘mindless’  because they disagreed with him.

I think they are “mindless” not because they disagreed with him, but because they tried to shout him down when he’d barely begun to speak.

Thanks for all your wonderful support. I’m glad so many realize that we are a professional competition and need to maintain credible results

Was anyone really questioning the results other than Nigel?

I don’t think anyone’s questioning whether the votes were counted accurately. I think Nigel was referring to the show’s credibility as a showcase for dancing talent and skill. If dancers who deliver the worst performance of the night don’t even end up in the bottom third, the show’s reputation suffers.

This gets into the conflict between popularity and talent/skill/performance, which the show struggles with to some extent every year. Every year, there’s at least one superb dancer who gets cut before a lesser but more popular dancer. As the show is set up, that’s just the way it is. (It happened last year with Evan. It drove Nigel nuts when Evan kept cruising on to the next round. I was and am a huge Evan fan, but even I saw the shortcomings in many of his performances.)

I think Nigel has a couple of concerns here. One is, as producer of the show, he wants the show to be known for encouraging excellence in dance–something he clearly is passionate about. The other is, I think he truly believes in Nathan’s abilities; trouble is, so far Nathan has not lived up to his potential. If Nathan goes far in the competition without performing up to the standard he COULD, that’s not good for the show, but it’s also not good for Nathan. What I heard was Nigel telling Nathan to shape up, get down to business, and stop taking success (and his talent) for granted.

If Nathan is smart, he’ll take it to heart and bust his butt from here on out.

Now the viewers are ‘mindless’  because they disagreed with him.

to be fair, he labeled their catawauling mindless, not the audience itself. which is a true assessment…much like a poster pointed out above, AI and SYTYCD has encouraged audience members to engage with the judges/host but sometimes, it is to a point of annoyance.

bottom line: . nathan has been one of his favorites, but the boy is not living up to the hype. the explanation he gave E! makes sense…he wanted N&M to be in the bottom 3 just to give them a good kick in the butt. maybe that will spark a fire. ( i hope it does, as he and billy bell were my faves going into the top 20. he’s been replaced by jakob and legacy. russ is up there too)

OK, watch ET tonight and you will see Kate Hudson. Mollee looks like her little sister.

Nigel never did know how to apologize, did he? Bad boy.

Sunshinegirl ‘“ ITA with you about this. Maybe this group of dancers are exceptional in their own styles, but in terms of versatility, I haven’t seen it yet. In fact, I don’t think this group of dancers matches S4 either in terms of dancing ability ‘“ at least not yet. Besides Nathan and Molly I haven’t seen any booming personalities yet, either. Maybe the personalities are being edited out.

I agree with you too on this! S4 also was fantastic..that’s when I began watching the show acutually. Season 5 definitely had some great personality as well as amazing and versatile dancers. This season just isn’t delivering on any of those fronts.

per Nigel’s comment: you must understand that British culture is much more direct than the US culture. Nigel was actually totally right: Nathan’s comment was arrogant, and the way he danced was self absorbed. If he still got votes after his lousy routine, there was a chance he will not learn his lesson. in that case he would pay a high price as the competition continues and/or later in his career. Sometimes, the most compassionate and smart thing to do– is to be honest, to calls someone’s shit by name– everyone who has ever been a teacher, or a parent had at one point or another understand that simple truth.

and, I love ealanore but her solo was embarrassing.

yippee, good videos up of the group routine. Man, Nathan is good at what ever that style is…. I hate the camera people!

I think they are ‘mindless’  not because they disagreed with him, but because they tried to shout him down when he’d barely begun to speak.

Re-watch the video, they were merely booing in disagreement that the solos weren’t decent enough to stay in the competition – hardly mindless catawauling” or trying to shout him down. This is only the Top 16. Why would anyone expect these early stage B3 people to perform at the level of last season’s Top 6? Especially when he based the cast on personality rather than the best dancing.

And actually it really shows how hypocritical he is – he doesn’t put the best dancers through to the Top 20 and yet he’s upset that the voters don’t keep the best performing couples safe?

And what about him sticking Russell and Brandon in the bottom for the Top 20? Really? Did anyone else agree with that based solely on the performances of that night?

Loved the Group number as well as Alvin Ailey guest piece. I’ve seen Alvin Ailey group perform live several times back in the 80s & 90s, but not in recent years. It’s always nice to have the professionals come on the show. It shows the kids and the audience what true dance art can be.