Alright everyone! Tonight’s the big night. Will we find out who plays Marilyn or what? We’ve only been waiting since they started promoting this thing a year ago! At this point, they could slap a blonde wig and short dress on “Evil Ellis” and I’d be satisfied. Just GIVE US SOME ANSWERS!

Look for the recap to be posted late tonight.

UPDATE: RECAP BELOW

Here we go people. I’ve got a fresh bag of peanut butter m&m’s ready to go. I’m waiting for some epic conclusion to this overly-dramatic soap opera that will completely blow my mind. Ya know, something entirely out of left field. My dream finale would be finding out it was actually Karen (AKA: “the Cartwright girl”) who spiked Rebecca’s smoothie with a nice scoop of creamy peanut butter. She then sleeps with Derek in order to get back at Dev and Ivy and to ultimately win the roll of Marilyn–thus EXTREMELY pissing off Ivy. We end with Karen knocking it out the park and being the secret villain who ends up on top.

Whew…you guys get all that? I mean, it sounds pretty great, right? Considering the alternative, PREDICTABLE conclusion. (Please don’t ACTUALLY let it be Ellis who “peanut-ized” the smoothie.)

Anyway, I’m rambling…let’s get on with the show! *play*

Oooo…super dramatic opening. Thank the heavens above! A Marilyn has been chosen! Unfortunatley, we’re seeing the opening moments from her point of view, unable to actually see her face. My bet is we’re looking through Karen’s eyes. Not that I think she deserves the role. Love Katharine Mcphee. HATE Karen Cartwright. Ivy destroys it every time she takes on the Marilyn role (in a good way). But that’s not what they’ve (TPTB) set us up for, and as much as I want to think Smash will pull a “switcheroo” on us, I just think Karen’s got this thing. Well, we’ve gone 12 hours back in time, so let’s see if I end up with my foot in my mouth, shall we?

Karen’s continuing the good-girl act. “They’re gonna ask you to play the part,” she mumbles to Ivy. Ugh, you would say that Karen. Grow a pair and fight for this! I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, but that IS the understudy’s sole purpose, right?

Now, Derek, looking at the costumes in hopes of a sudden epiphany in this wh…oh wait, what’s that? Derek does have an epiphany! “Where’s Karen Cartwright? (WOAH! He knows her name!) You’re going on as Marilyn–tonight,” he says. BOOM Ivy… Hold the phone though, things CAN’T fall into place that easily for sweet Karen…

Everyone is dumfounded as to why Derek is choosing Karen. Haha. Especially Ellis, who gets into a confrontation with Eileen over the issue. He’s adamently defending Ivy, saying it’s her part–because you know, her and Ellis have always been the best of friends throughout the season. *rolls eyes* Oh wow, Ellis is really getting out of hand, confessing he put the peanuts in Rebecca’s smoothie. (He also gives us a detailed explanation of how simple it is to grind up peanuts in a blender and put them in a smoothie.) Unfortunately, instead of breathing fire all over Ellis, Eileen utters the somewhat satisfying line, “Why don’t you do a Starbucks run for the creative team? It’s gonna be a long day.” Then, in an amazingly comedic moment, Eileen fires Ellis, to which he replies, “You haven’t heard the last of this…” (For reals. Like a villain being carted away by the police in an episode of Scooby Doo, Where Are You?)

Frank catches Julia consoling Michael Swift, because you know, he confessed everything to his wife, and she took the kid and left him. Frank then storms out of the theater. “Oh NO,” utters Julia. Don’t worry, they meet up with “son who can’t act” just outside the front doors and everyone makes up. Aw, everyone’s happy and eating fish n’ chips. Yum.

We get to see Karen perform the entire number, uuh…sorry, I’m not the song title person. It’s the “woman on the prowl” song, and Karen’s killing it. But still, they do alternating takes of Ivy performing the song earlier in the season and she really kills it. (Once again, in a good way!) So great job Kat, but still no Megan Hilty. Hey, I’m just proud of her for not boring me to death! I haven’t seen Kat show that much expression since “The 20th Century Fox Mambo” number. (Another one she did an incredible job with.)

Uh oh, Ivy finally confronts Derek. “Why wasn’t it me?” she pleads. “If it was gonna be a nobody, why not me?” Derek says he just “sees her (Karen) in his head,” and she has something Ivy doesn’t. Yeah Ivy, you SHOULD be pissed. You’re being robbed. I think it’s time for you to go all Ellis on Karen’s ass. Hmm…what would she be allergic to? Can emotions–specifically excitement–be blended into a smoothie as easily as peanuts? Hello? Ellis?

Now Ivy’s playing dirty. She leaves Dev’s engagement ring on Karen’s makeup counter, so she can explain the Dev affair to her, thus throwing her off completely and ruing her performance. Karen then confronts Dev and gets all teary-eyed. In Karen’s defense, he did sleep with her enemy of all enemies.

Now Eileen’s demanding Karen be replaced, and she won’t be happy until Derek takes care of the situation. He explains to her that he’s an artist and has a vision. He doesn’t do collaborations! If she wants a hit, she’ll sit back, shut up, and thank him afterwards. Wow Derek, who taught you how to speak to your elders? (Sorry Angelica Huston.)

Oh yeah, Tom and Sam are dating…let’s not forget to throw in all the random, side-stories Smash writers.

Tom and Julia are violently working on last minute song/script changes, and Julia is convinced Karen can’t do it. Oh no…no, no no. Julia pukes, and then admits to Tom she hasn’t done that since she was pregnant with Leo. (Really Julia? You haven’t thrown up in the last TWO DECADES?) Disclaimer: if Julia ends up being pregnant–regardless of who the father is–I am officially throwing in the towel with Smash and calling it quits. I’ll raise my white flag. There were many battles Smash writers, but if this “pregnancy subplot” materializes, you will have most-definitely won the war.

Oh look, it’s a Jonas brother. Meh, who cares.

The gang is convinced Karen has cracked, and Derek is “having it out” with Dev. “She’s mine now,” he says to Dev. *roooooolls eyes*

Karen and Derek are sharing an intimate scene now. She actually did “crack” for awhile and went missing. No worries though, Derek found her and played therapist for about a minute as he listened to her cry…about winning the role of Marilyn…*smacks palm to forehead*

At this point, I’m starting to feel like Derek represents the Smash writers, trying to force this “Karen MUST play Marilyn” thing down our throats when it’s not believable. Eileen, Tom, Julia, Ivy, Ellis, and, well…EVERYONE represent us (the viewers at home), repeatedly screaming in their face, “THIS IS NOT BELIEVABLE!”

And now we’re back to the opening scene! I KNEW it was Karen’s view we were seeing!

Oh, I’m sorry, was I doing a recap? I was busy being mesmerized by Katharine Mcphee’s awesomeness. Yeah, yeah, I SAID IT. I (along with everyone else) have torn apart her performance a million times this season, but those closing ten minutes were just awesome from her. Regardless of whether Ivy would’ve done a better job, I wasn’t even thinking about it, because Karen was so flawless on that last number. You could really feel the audience rooting for her, and they believed in her performance. Then again, they didn’t get to see Ivy like we did.

Oh yeah, and as Karen’s closing out the show, living out her dream, we cut to scenes of Ivy backstage, downing a bottle of pills–in true soap-opera fashion. (I wonder if her evil-twin step sister will come back next season to avenge Ivy’s death/suicide.)

Anyway, it’s all over, and we’ve reached our epic conclusion. I’m not choosing sides, but I will say this: while I think Ivy deserves the part and would obviously do a better job, I was thouroughly impressed with Karen tonight. Katharine Mcphee finally showed some acting/performance chops and entertained for sure! I quite enjoyed this finale, and while everything turned out mostly how I saw it going, I thought they’d tease this “who’s playing Marilyn” thing out till next season. Thank GOD they didn’t! That being said, we’re left with some questions now. (Which we won’t have answered until about FEBRUARY of NEXT YEAR! AH!) Obviously, they’ve decided to keep the infamous Ellis on board for next season, because remember: “We haven’t heard the last of him.” We’ve still got A LOT of relationship drama with EVERYONE. Ivy drank a bottle of pills. (Don’t worry Team-Ivy peeps. Like Smash would kill their only breakout star (sorta) of the series!) Oh, and Julia had a pretty grim look on her face as Karen closed out the show and Frank grabbed her hand. Seems like we’ll be seeing more of Michael Swift as well. Who’s the baby daddy?!?! *rolls eyes* Oh boy, I guess I’ll tolerate that if it causes “son who can’t act” to flee the country or join the marines or ANYTHING. Do we think Dev will be back? I’m sure he will. But gosh, aren’t we supposed to be going for a major overhaul next season? I guess we’ll have to wait and see how things play out.

What do you guys think about the finale? Happy with the conclusion? How about the season overall? Sound off in the comments! Remember: this is our last discussion post/recap for A LONG TIME!

Looks like now that Smash is over, I’m gonna have to actually start doing “Song of the Week” posts WEEKLY again. Haha. Frankly, I’m surprised MJ puts up with me. :) Man, I might need to go with a Kat song this week now!I know you’re all DYING to find out. Haha. See you then!

 

 
  • http://twitter.com/tukicarreno Tuki

    I am so excited for tonight!
    All the critics say it´s a fantastic episode. Looking very much forward to it.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick kesia monteith

    Hmmm….Empty here. Oh well, just want to say –being my first time posting here– that I’m really liking the episode so far, as I have felt this show has been rather sluggish and slow. But all the drama is coming to ahead now, so it is making the episode intriguing. 

    With that said, Ivy should have been Marilyn. It just makes the most sense. Although, I don’t think Kat McPhee is doing to bad being Karen.  

  • Anonymous

    Happened as I predicted….. :) Well so far, I am delayed a bit.

  • Lovesyesha

    WOW! Stunning episode! Great end to the season can’t wait for season 2. I don’t care what anyone says, as far as I am concerned Katharine is a STAR! That last number was killer, just beautiful! I am so happy for her.

  • Anonymous

    I may be one of the few fans who likes Ivy and not Karen. I got teary eyed feeling bad for Ivy even if she is vindictive. She is Marilyn with a better voice too. Ivy is always being disappointed and hurt

  • Anonymous

    Is Ivy going to be on next season? I guess Karen will be Marilyn. I Wonder if Ivy overdoses on pills or is that just to get us to wonder!

  • Anonymous

    No you are not alone. Megan Hilty is sooooooo much better as Marilyn, which the Wolf song underscored and highlighted. But then again Hilty is doing a Broadway show….. so……

  • http://twitter.com/mcpheever4ever Hi!

    Wasn’t “Don’t Forget Me” AMAZING!?!? Listen to it again here! Katharine Mcphee is a star!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkFVOuO2gZ4&feature=plcp

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=743390233 Zach Leswick

    WHY CANT ALL THE EPISODES BE LIKE THIS? AMAZING! 

  • Anonymous

    No she is a singer. An actress in the making. But not.a.star. by a long shot.

  • Anonymous

    Great episode! Can’t wait for season 2!

  • Anonymous

    “She has something that you don’t.”  Whether it’s true of these two particular girls or not….that’s what stardom comes down to.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t Forget Me was terrible – high school musical terrible, IMO.  She’s not believable at all in a dramatic role. I feel like she, well, poses.  To quote Dorothy Parker, she runs the gamut of emotions from A to B. ;) 
    I don’t have strong feelings about her, but I have to say if there’s a star on that show – it’s Megan Hilty.   She’s charismatic as all get out. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487285329 Willis Dunlow

     Well I was REAL pleased with McPhee at the end! I think she was
    GREAT!!!!…Perfect ending to the season-loved it when Derek spoke to
    Karen just before she closed the show-the big hint he was in love with
    her!…Just all real FAB!!!!….Already waiting for next season to see
    where it can all go now???…Kinda like the way McPhee even in reality
    on IDOl was an underdog/second place-and kinda like her real rise in
    SMASH  to the top from underdog/second…kinda art(SMASH) imitating her
    life now AFTER Idol….all smiles cause I never lost my McPheever!!!! 

  • http://twitter.com/thebluemartini Nicole P.

    Ok, Julia better NOT be pregnant with Michael Swift’s baby (with that comment about her not throwing up since she was pregnant!). It better have just been because she was all stressed everything, or I am going to punch something!

    Thank goodness Ellis was finally fired!

    And I totally loved that last number! I thought Kat was amazing. 

  • Anonymous

    Is the show trying to say that Karen is more of a “star” than Ivy, or that she’s more “Marilyn” than Ivy?  Because the latter I can buy, but not the first.  Kat McPhee might not be as good an actress as Megan Hilty, but she does feel more like Marilyn to me too (as Ivy plays her, anyway–my guess is Megan Hilty could absolutely get the softness and everything else that Derek seems to want).  But Ivy is just as much a star–maybe that’ll be part of the story for next season?  I hope they’re not getting rid of Ivy, they’ve made her a really interesting character.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236812453 Thorne Brook

    Oh, man. I love most of the people on this show. Both Ivy and Karen are amazing in their own ways and bring something different to the Marilyn role, that it’s a little painful for me to watch as the show veers from one to the other. I want them both to do well. Very curious as to what they plan to do with Ivy in S2.

    As for the actors, I love listening to Megan sing and I love watching Kat move, and if the universe were kind, it would find a way to smush those two together so I wouldn’t have to split my feelings. D:

  • milwlovesadam

    I have absolutely loved Smash from the first episode. To me, it’s like being able to see a Broadway show every week. Now we have to wait until mid-season for more. Please tell me that they are bringing back the hot bartender for Angelica Houston. Please let’s hope for  another Bollywood number ( my fave of the year). And more Bernadette Peters. And, please, let Megan Hilty become a huge star. She is phenomenal. I like Kat, but she just doesn’t have the oomph that smells of Broadway.

    Don’t get me wrong, that last number was very very good. I just think she’s kinda stiff, needs to loosen up more, show more emotion.

    So let’s see, Karen and Derek will hook up, Ivy will become addicted or OD, evil assistant will perform more dastardly deeds, Angelica Houston’s husband will do something rotten to her , and the hunky bartender will have him beaten up mob style, Debra Messing will be preggers and whose baby will it be? Hmmmm… speculation is fun..

  • Anonymous

    I knew it.. watching all the series, I knew Derek has feeling for Karen. He’s been trying to get her since the beginning but Karen has principal plus she’s loyal to her boyfriend.

  • Anonymous

    That was a great episode.  I thought they did a great job of pulling the storylines together.  Even Julia’s idiotic affair.  There’s even a hint back to that damn baby they were trying to adopt — if Julia really is pregnant.  

    It’s mildly annoying that everything got pushed into the final episode of the season.  I wish it had been two hours, so we could have seen more of the show.  And I found it slightly unbelievable that Karen was able to execute the wolf song so flawlessly —  seriously, if she can pick up a dance number like that, then she’s phenomenal… and yet, the whole season she was stumbling through stuff and needing extra rehearsals…

    When Ivy started pouring the pills into her hand, I cried out, “No!” and got really mad at the show.  I loved that up to that point, Ivy was still there, in the show, disappointed.  But there.  That’s way more interesting than giving her a dramatic send-off.

    I also got mad, but this time at Derek if that makes any sense, when Derek came to give Karen that pep talk just before she sang.  I was thinking, “Get out of her head!  Just let her do what she needs to prepare.”  Then it occurred to me how often that sort of interaction plays out in “behind the scenes” dramas.  The male director has to use his psychological voodoo to coax out a performance from his insecure/inexperienced/neurotic female star.  Has that ever happened the other way round?  With a female director manipulating her male actor/singer/dancer to greatness?  

    Sorry.  End of feminist rant.  But it just goes to show how caught up I got in the story this week, which is the best praise I can give the show.  Good job!

    It’s going to be a long wait for that second season.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487285329 Willis Dunlow

    My guesses for next season:
     Reason Ellis was on show(did you ever wonder why?) is as he said in last episode he WAS a producer in that fight. Bet Ellis gets the backing from Angelicas’s rich husband(who wants to bring down his wife) to do a competing Marilyn musical and Ivy will be the star Ellis cast!(bet she throws the pills away and gets up her confidence instead of taking them!)…The race will be all season to see who gets to Broadway FIRST with the ups and downs of making of a great play and establishes the crowds first with the winning reviews,etc……That would make a battle of the two Marilyn figures still work the whole season!…JUST a crazy guess…lol…

  • RockiDreams

    Kat was fantastic last night – gave me “goosies (ugh)”.  LOL  I cannot stand Ivy or the actress’s singing voice at all so I was ecstatic last night not to hear a thing from her.  Frankly I don’t get all the talk about her being such a great actress – her range is to mope around, mope around some more, then flash a fake smile. I suppose that is the character so guess she does that well.  I was never a fan of Kat’s on Idol but she has converted me from the first show otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered watching another second of it.  I would love to see them develop storylines for some of the other dancers.  Yep, a long wait until February.  Can’t wait.  

  • Anonymous

    Now that my rose-colored glasses are off, I have to admit that this last episode only managed to highlight everything that is wrong with this show. When Smash first aired, I thought it was quite promising and I loyally tuned in for the whole half-season. However, if I’m being honest, I think the show peaked in its fourth episode and went downhill after that. 

    One of my recurring issues has been the lack of good character development and the lack of interesting side-stories. The Frank&Julia adoption/adultery/ angsty-teenage-son sideplot was a complete waste of screentime, IMO. The Eileen-bartender romance was almost as unappealing as the idea of watching my parents make out. As if that wasn’t enough, we then had to endure the Karen & Dev snoozefest…..It’s never a good sign when producers have to insert a random Bollywood Dance number to wake up viewers. With so many “interesting” side-stories, I can only be grateful that they didn’t write any scenes featuring both Ellis and Julia’s angsty teenage son.

    Another issue that became glaringly obvious with time, was that the writers had to keep throwing Megan Hilty’s character under the bus in order to convince viewers that Karen was more deserving. At the start of the series, Kat McPhee did a decent job playing the green, inexperienced new girl; unfortunately she wasn’t able to pull off the character progression. There’s no question that Kat can sing the hell out of any ballad. Take her out of this comfort zone (or even worse, make her dance) and she becomes this awkward person. it was almost embarrassing to watch the difference between Karen’s “Wolf” performance and Ivy’s. It was even more heartbreaking (and infuriating) to hear Derek tell Ivy that Karen was a better Marilyn. Given the circumstances, I’m not sure I’ll be able to stomach a Derek-Karen relationship at this point.

    If the producers want to keep their viewers interested and maintain ratings in the 2nd season, they are really going to need some major changes.

  • Anonymous

    Now that my rose-colored glasses are off, I have to admit that this last episode only managed to highlight everything that is wrong with this show. When Smash first aired, I thought it was quite promising and I loyally tuned in for the whole half-season. However, if I’m being honest, I think the show peaked in its fourth episode and went downhill after that. 

    One of my recurring issues has been the lack of good character development and the lack of interesting side-stories. The Frank&Julia adoption/adultery/ angsty-teenage-son sideplot was a complete waste of screentime, IMO. The Eileen-bartender romance was almost as unappealing as the idea of watching my parents make out. As if that wasn’t enough, we then had to endure the Karen & Dev snoozefest…..It’s never a good sign when producers have to insert a random Bollywood Dance number to wake up viewers. With so many “interesting” side-stories, I can only be grateful that they didn’t write any scenes featuring both Ellis and Julia’s angsty teenage son.

    Another issue that became glaringly obvious with time, was that the writers had to keep throwing Megan Hilty’s character under the bus in order to convince viewers that Karen was more deserving. At the start of the series, Kat McPhee did a decent job playing the green, inexperienced new girl; unfortunately she wasn’t able to pull off the character progression. There’s no question that Kat can sing the hell out of any ballad. Take her out of this comfort zone (or even worse, make her dance) and she becomes this awkward person. it was almost embarrassing to watch the difference between Karen’s “Wolf” performance and Ivy’s. It was even more heartbreaking (and infuriating) to hear Derek tell Ivy that Karen was a better Marilyn. Given the circumstances, I’m not sure I’ll be able to stomach a Derek-Karen relationship at this point.

    If the producers want to keep their viewers interested and maintain ratings in the 2nd season, they are really going to need some major changes.

  • Anonymous

     Wow – how divisive fans can be.  Were you Kat haters Taylor fans?   I was… but Katharine has reinforced my saying “Taylor who?”

    Okay.. Idol aside, Katharine has impressed me so much in Smash.  She has made me completely love her.   But this chick who plays Ivy – a poster said it’s the character but I just can’t see enjoying this actress in anything.  So much for that –
    just my opinion.  I’m sure Megan deserves all the fans she has as well as success, but she just doesn’t do it for me. 

    The previews for next season left me wandering if Kat keeps the role when it moves to Broadway.  I really don’t want to watch Ivy again as Marilyn so I hope for my enjoyment anyway, Kat keeps the role. 

  • Anonymous

    Wow – how divisive fans can be.  Were you Kat haters Taylor fans?   I was… but Katharine has reinforced my saying “Taylor who?”

    Sometimes an opinion is just an honest opinion. Speaking for myself, I never watched season 5 and could care less about Team Kat or Team Taylor. I started watching Smash because I enjoy musicals and I was initially impressed with both female leads. The show seemed like a step above Glee, but  I’m not so sure anymore….

  • Anonymous

    At this point, I’m starting to feel like Derek represents the Smash writers, trying to force this “Karen MUST play Marilyn” thing down our throats when it’s not believable. Eileen, Tom, Julia, Ivy, Ellis, and, well…EVERYONE represent us (the viewers at home), repeatedly screaming in their face, “THIS IS NOT BELIEVABLE!”

    Amen and amen!

  • Anonymous

    Were you Kat haters Taylor fans?

    Never watched the show duirng Taylor Hicks and Kat McPhee were on. However Taylor Hicks and I have worked in the same circles and I am not particulary a fan of his (on a personal level).

    However, that has nothing to do with my particular opinion here.

    I do not hate Kat McPhee, I just do not think she can act very well. Sing yes, act no. And compared to Megan Hilty, a Broadway pro with the whole wonderful package, her flaws are really exposed. McPhee may get there but Hilty is already there in spades!

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick kesia monteith

    Wow! I like that! That could be the case…

    Hope so!

  • Reflects On Life

    ” The show seemed like a step above Glee, but I’m not so sure anymore….”

    Agreed. In Glee, New Directions never wins their first time out at any competition, be it sectionals, regionals, nationals, finals, or any other ___als.  Even in a season finale, they lose if it’s their first time out.

    I wish Smash would have followed Glee’s lead on this.  Close the season with Ivy winning the lead, but with some hope that this isn’t the end of Karen’s evolution, and that she still might win the part next season.

  • Anonymous

    If McPhee were to get the role over Hilty, the Broadway world would NOT be happy. Hilty is a seasoned pro and pretty popular there. BUT above all else Broadway respects talent. People who can actually act, sing and dance are always preferred over the box office tricks that are hired to get folks in.

  • http://twitter.com/youtweetmetoo it’s me

    Katharine was AMAZING as Marilyn!  So happy for her!  The writers finally gave her some lines so she could show off her acting chops!  She is a TRIPLE THREAT — acts, sings, & dances!  A TRUE STAR!!

  • Anonymous

    I appreciated Michael’s(Debra Messings affair guy) musical talent for the first time.  I didn’t think he translated well to television till last night.  Kat really did not act/sing/dance well enough to sell the “a star is born” theme.  There was some hope throughout the season that she was purposely playing her role poorly because her character was supposed to be green but the reality is Kat just doesn’t have IT. Yet.  I don’t know how long Megan Hilty has been doing Broadway –did Kat ever do it?  Maybe she should spend the summer doing a real Bway show so she has the actual experience.  It could only help.

  • Anonymous

    Near the beginning of the series, I posted…Ivy has the look; Karen has the depth.  So, of course, I’m happy with the ending.  But when did Karen learn that final song?  When?  Implausability aside, the race to the climax was breathtaking!   

  • Anonymous

    Were you Kat haters Taylor fans?   I was… but Katharine has reinforced my saying “Taylor who?”

    I wasn’t a fan of Katherine during Season 5.  But I think she’s a lot better for the role of Marilyn than Taylor Hicks.  But he’s probably better than she is in the role of Teen Angel.

    Thing is, they are no longer in competition.  Now she’s been pitted (by the Smash producers) against Megan Hilty.  I prefer Megan Hilty.

    However, I think Katherine does a great job at playing Karen.  The important thing in acting on television is being believable.  She’s very believable when she’s doing relationship stuff.  She’s less believable when she’s doing the Marilyn stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I should have been more realistic in my expectations of Kat Mcphee.  She is acting on television for the first time and I think doing musical broadway(I know she has done theatre on smaller stages)for the first time all in the same show.   She is trying to pull  this off with some of the best tv/big screen actors and Broadway actors in the business.  She is working with Spielberg.  Seriously, the fact Katherine was even cast in this is an accomplishment.  I think given time she is only going to get better.  If I were her I would be terribly insecure amongst this group.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I liked this finale. It was fun to watch with all the ups and downs. I hope almost all the cast comes back next year and… number one… the HIRE BETTER WRITERS!!!

    I have always liked Karen’s Marilyn more than Ivy’s, so I was happy about that part. But I do love the character of Ivy and think Hilty does a great job with her, so I want her to come back and continue to fight for the role, just because she’s such so good at being a bad girl that you can’t quite hate. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Broadway is a clique within itself.  I think you are saying that in real life, Hilty would be the preferred Marilyn because of her experience already in that clique. 

    So how does one enter that world – everyone must have a first time.  I think Kat could definitely be accepted there.  As for the box office tricks, I agree, but he did get fill up the house !!

  • Anonymous

    Sadly the Season 5 contestants (more than any other season) seem to be perpetually in competition among their fans.  I was just wondering how many negative opinions of Kat are still coming from the fan wars of that season.

    During season 5 (where most of us last saw her) Kat seemed green and unpolished, shy and introverted.  But isn’t this Karen?   This role puts Katvback in that Season 5 persona.   I think we are watching a star, if not born yet at this point, she is emerging slowly to become that star.  I look forward to seeing a lot more of Kat in different roles and as a singer.

  • Anonymous

    I was talking specifically about this siutation. If it was a choice between these two actresses for the role, Hilty’s peers would surely prefer her as she is the superior talent and yes, she is part of their clique.

    That doesn’t mean McPhee would never be accepted ,if there was a role she was capable. To handle or even if this show moved to the boards with her already the definite star (with Hilty out of picture)

  • Anonymous

    I was talking specifically about this siutation. If it was a choice between these two actresses for the role, Hilty’s peers would surely prefer her as she is the superior talent and yes, she is part of their clique.

    That doesn’t mean McPhee would never be accepted ,if there was a role she was capable to handle or even if this show moved to the boards with her already the definite star (with Hilty out of picture)

  • Anonymous

    Megan Hilty says she has no idea what will happen next season
    http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/14/megan-hilty-talks-smash-love-triangle-season-finale/

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    I think the show has actually done a really good job at showcasing both Kat and Megan in positive and negative lights in terms of how qualified they are for the role of Marilyn. Early on in the season I felt it was a major issue because Megan’s Broadway voice was blowing Kat’s out of the water, but as the season progressed we see Ivy overpower parts we had heard Karen sing, and Karen’s versatility in delivering the Marilyn voice improve. I didn’t think Megan’s version of Never Met a Wolf was that much better vocally (if at all), and as far as I can tell from throughout the season, Katharine is a better dancer than Megan.

    But also, it’s important to remember that it isn’t about Kat vs. Megan, it’s Karen vs. Ivy. I don’t think either are playing the role as they would if they were really auditioning, I have heard Megan’s voice in other roles and she is far more versatile than she has been on the show and I’m guessing that is done purposefully. For Kat I can’t really say because I haven’t heard her do any other actual theater work, but I would also guess she is doing things a certain way adjust for how Karen would sing it as opposed to Katharine.

  • http://twitter.com/tukicarreno Tuki

    I enjoyed the finale so much!
    This was one of if not the BEST episode of the season.
    How about Derek and Karen? OMG Love their chemistry! How can you NOT ship them now. He is so in love with her and he was honest with Ivy.
    I really hope season 2 is when they get together. LOVE Derek´s character.

    And Karen´s last song was so beautiful. She really is the perfect Marilyn. Kat did an amazing job.
    I am gonna miss this show so much! I am in the Cartwills/Karek train for good.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    I don’t know how Broadway casting producers work but, being away from the US and really interested in Musicals, I can say that the few times the midia in my country mentions a Broadway production are when there’s a big Hollywood name in it (like the Harry Potter kid).  So, I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose a girl for her potential to attract public (which can easily be based on a director’s personal opinion), rather than for her exceptional talent (which is usually ‘measurable’).
    I’m not saying that’s the case here – I do believe Katherine McPhee is talented, even when acting or dancing.
    It’s business, after all, and considering the number of options on Broadway, I think anyone would prefer to be involved in a successful musical.
    Anyway, I loved what I could watch from the show and I am looking forward to next season!

  • Anonymous

    i was glad Derek chose Karen as Marilyn. I just felt that Ivy was “over” acting the part. On a more personal level, Megan is an AMAZING singer. I saw her in L.A. as Glinda in Wicked and thought she was AMAZING. I’m so glad she is now getting known. I was not a fan of Kat on Idol. But she has converted me. LOL. And I have a crush on Derek. Can’t wait for Season 2!

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.i.lin David I-Chen Lin

    Kat Mcphee was absolutely FANTASTIC in the finale. That last number sent chills through my spine. WOW

  • http://twitter.com/kirkcharles kirk charles

    Absolutely epic finale and flawless episode. 

    Kat mcphee is a forced to be reckoned with and all the haters can continue to hate.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I really enjoyed this series!  Great episode and I finally figured out the love Derek has for Karen.  She is his muse.  Perfect.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, not saying that McPhee would not be hired or could not be hired (although the TV is pretty equalizing the name recognition she and Megan Hilty are getting.)

    I am just saying that Broadway folks would not be happy if “trick casting” won out over talent. But they never are and it happens all the time. Show business is a business.

    Folks, just because people prefer Hilty or don’t think McPhee can act well doesnt mean KM is hated. Why does that word even have to be used? I guess people have to put a label on that with which they don’t understand or agree .

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I think your statement says a lot about Broadway and Constantine.  Some how he managed the clique, and to be nominated in his first major role is a testament to his talent.  I am happy Adam Shankman gave him a minor part; I just hope it doesn’t get cut from the movie, “Rock of Ages.”

    I adored Katharine and loved Taylor Hicks.  I also appreciated the talents of Elliott.  We, as fans should be able to enjoy several Idols at the same time.  I just want them to be entertaining!

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting the Time review; I didn’t realize before that the whole season had been filmed before the first episode was aired. That explains a lot. They couldn’t make any adjustments to the show in response to the audience and critics’ reactions to the various actors and storylines. 
    I enjoyed this season despite the show’s many flaws, but I am happy to hear there will be someone new in charge next season. I hope Julia’s son and Ellis will be recast.
    Unless they are totally changing Derek’s character, he is not in love with Karen-he loves himself and the art of the theatre. He always romances his leading ladies-whatever it takes to get a good performance onstage.
    Ivy, Derek, and Tom are the standouts in the cast. Katherine McPhee is a beautiful girl with a beautiful voice, but not a great actress. I don’t mind that she got to play Marilyn in Boston-who knows what will happen when they move to Broadway? 
    Just because I’m not impressed with Kat’s acting, that doesn’t make me a hater. I enjoyed her season five; if she weren’t surrounded by such superb actors on Smash, I might not have noticed she is not as expressive as the others. 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I think Ellis is perfect to “hate” as a villain.  I also hope they will recast the son as someone older teen girls might like.

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    There’s nothing wrong with preferring Megan over Katharine or Ivy over Karen, I think part of the dynamic the show was going for was not that you root for Karen but you go back and forth between her and Ivy. But I think people forget that Megan and Katharine aren’t auditioning for Marilyn and in that respect it’s a little unfair to criticize the show for being unrealistic for picking “Katharine McPhee” over “Megan Hilty.” I ended up really liking how they handled the casting conflict because. Even in this episode, it’s not like everyone was going gaga over Karen and we were told to agree she was the right choice. Derek was the only one who wanted her while everyone else told him no and to use Ivy.

  • Anonymous

    I think another reason why Derik always wanted Karen to get the Marilyn part’s because she has the innocent look just like Marilyn. Karen’s new to the business unlike Ivy who has lived in NY for year. That’s why if you watch Smash from the beginning, Derik wanted Karen to get the part but he always outvoted.

  • Anonymous

    Yep.. me too, I’ve always liked Karen’s than Ivy. But at the beginnin I thought Megan has stronger vocal than Karen, but watching the closing number I have to admit I was wrong. There’s a reason why Steven Spielberg asked Kat to do the part, beside off course the innocent look that she hast, but also because Kat is also CAN SING.

  • Anonymous

    I was discussing the real Megan and Kat in terms of the potential for being hired if thks show ever made it to Broadway.

    In the context of the show, however, I was never compelled to root for Karen as her character always had opportunities handed to her while the much more deserving, IMHO, Ivy had to struggle for each rung of the ladder.

    But I am also drawn in and observe the performances of the actors on any show I watch. In this case I believe Megan Hilty did a much better job of portraying Ivy than Kat McPhee did of Karen. Both ladies have beautiful voices, but it is their acting abilities which seperate them into two different groups.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t realize before that the whole season had been filmed before the first episode was aired. That explains a lot. They couldn’t make any adjustments to the show in response to the audience and critics’ reactions to the various actors and storylines.

    I didn’t realize that until I read that Time article, but I agree. It definitely explains a lot. This actually gives me hope for next season. I also read that Tom’s “Don’t say yes until I finish talking number” was so well received by viewers, that the actor will probably get more musical numbers in the 2nd season (Yay!)

    Yikes! I just read that the new showrunner for Smash is going to be Josh Safran, the producer for Gossip Girl. Gossip Girl has a lot of strengths and a lot of weaknesses, so I can’t say if this is a good thing. On the plus side,  I predict a lot more interesting subplots, major cast changes and a better story for Megan Hilty.  However, I can’t guarantee that every character (including Ellis) will not end up sleeping together by the end of the third season, which is what happened in Gossip Girl.

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    Oh my misunderstanding, I thought you were talking about how they were playing Marilyn on the show. I agree Kat is a weaker actress than Megan, even in a less demanding role, but I think she’s improved a lot since when the season started. She was fantastic in the last two episodes in my opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Here is the Playbill Recap for the finale (no season ender review as of yet)

    http://m.playbill.com//news/article/166007-THE-SMASH-REPORT-Episode-15-Or-Lost-in-Boston

  • Anonymous

    Most people do not form opinions based on opposing American Idol contestants. There is an entire world outside of AI, you know.