Skylar Laine Tweets Photos of Joshua Ledet and JHud (And It Isn’t Enough)

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that American Idol season 11 alum, Skylar Laine, went on a “my favorite African Americans!” photo posting spree today.

Well, it was only two, actually. But still. Could posting a photo of herself with fellow Idol alum, Joshua Ledet and tweeting “I miss you boo! Get out my house ha!” and announcing that  she started Weight Watchers and that Jennifer Hudson is her inspiration have anything to do with a recent PR nightmare?

For Joshua’s part, he responded, “Miss you more, love.” So, he doesn’t seem to be holding it against Skylar that she dated a guy who just plead guilty to a hate crime. Who, along with his buddies, went into Jackson to harass blacks and then openly bragged about it. Who, threw a birthday party for himself where a slew of his buddies decided to top off their ice cream and cake with a few hate crimes…and eventually the murder of African American, James Craig Anderson.

So, maybe Skylar isn’t a racist like her ex-boyfriend. And I can’t really know what is in her heart and mind. But I would like more than the coy little  defenses she’s been tweeting the past fiew days (“I have the worst luck!” she tweeted in the midst of the brohaha. Really Skylar? How about the bad luck of Anderson, who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when your buddies beat him and then ran him over with their truck?). And I would like more than curt denials to the press.

I really want to give Skylar the benefit of the doubt, but really, this whole situation stinks to high heaven. Why did she not contact authorities as her friends bragged about committing hate crimes? Why did she keep dating Dominick, even after the murder was committed and the gang got into trouble? Why did she hang out with a gang of thugs and racists for at least 3 years (the duration of her relationship with Dominick)?

I can’t stay on the Skylar train (I really liked her during the competition, and found her smart and focused when I interviewed her during the summer tour) until she releases a statement condemning the actions of her friends and expressing remorse for the victims of the crime. Also  an apology for keeping silent as others suffered, would be the right thing to do.

So Skylar can quit with the tweets, right now. Unless she really has something substantial to say. Oh, she also quoted Gaga in a tweet, “No matter black white or beige, chola or orient made, I’m on the right track baby I was born 2 be brave! Luv this song.”

Put your money where your mouth is Skylar.

UPDATED:  Skylar tweets, “I hate NO ONE in this world. I can say it all night an some will still talk crap. I have said whats on my heart and that’s all that matters. “

  • potatorocks

    I feel exactly as you do MJ.   

  • halo9125

    I think Skylar doth protest too much. She needs to shut up, because every thing she does or says at this point is making this abhorrent situation worse.

  • Prime_Minister

    Completely agree with your take on the issue, mj.  Skylar was my favorite girl on the show this year, but she really needs to address this tragedy not just for PR sake, but for it’s own sake.  Tweets and curt denials are not enough.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yeah, the timing of her tweets is just too blatantly “convenient”, not to mention that the content is just way too obvious. Still no condemnation of her ex or show of compassion for the victims.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Why did she keep dating Dominick, even after the murder was committed and the gang got into trouble?”

    It wasn’t just after the murder was committed. She kept dating Dominick after he pleaded guilty to hate crimes.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Man, this is just hard for me to accept. Just why she would hang around with a blatant racist even after this horrific incident. And now she goes out of her way to tweet photos of blacks she loves and looks up to, for what? It doesn’t change the fact that you were more than likely aware of your ex’s disgusting actions. I dunno, Skylar was my fave contestant last season, and she seems like such a cool girl. The whole thing makes me sad. 

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    UGH!!! This is all so damn icky. Tragic :(

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Not a wise move; makes me cringe.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    When did Dominick plead guilty? I had assumed it was recently.

    Either way, it stinks.  She doesn’t appear to get it. These tweets are too obvious.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    Others would know better than me, but how often has she tweeted Josh over the past few months?  What is it just today that she decided she missed him?  And if Hollie was Black would she have missed her too?  I think she got talk about the situation no matter how uncomfortable it may be, maybe she got sucked into something that she couldn’t get out of (but her silence and stupid tweets and past actions have me questioning that) and perhaps make this a teachable moment for others.  I’m a cynical guy and at the end of the day, I just see this as a weak ploy to save her dying career

  • http://twitter.com/Falfor Connie

    Far as I can tell Skylar never left Mississippi and never really had a career to start. She has the occasional gig here and there but she has never caught my attention, so I do not go. It is sad that there is no one to advise her as to the proper way to go about dealing with this situation. 

  • jobeob987

    Wow, the Tweets only look more incriminating, imo.  I’m sorry about this too because I had high hopes for Skylar’s success in Country Music.  

    I totally agree with you, MJ.

  • jobeob987

    Not only are the Tweets too obvious, Skylar is unaware of how she is coming across to others.  Completely unaware it would seem.

  • chillj

    She seems to be lacking in subtlety.

  • Niall

    She seems to be trying to address the situation without having to publicly condemn the actions of her friends. I’m sure to do so would be tough in a small town where everybody grew up together, but she can’t have it both ways. She needs to tell the whole story, explain why she stayed with someone accused of hate crimes, and why she stayed mum for years while her peers joked about attacking blacks. Perhaps Joshua Ledet already knows the whole story and understood. Well, if she wants this to go away, a full explanation will do it faster than tweeting pics of black people she likes. She didn’t attack anyone but she stayed friendly with those who did. That’s on her.

    Does she not realize her friends wouldn’t have hesitated to beat the shit out of Joshua?

    Edited to play devil’s advocate. Is it possible Skylar was one of the people who told on the others afterwards, but doesn’t want anyone to know? Maybe staying with the boyfriend was more about not drawing suspicion than love? Probably not, I’m just trying to come up with a reason for her very odd response.

  • mtlfan2

    i read that in May 2011 she was dating someone else and the guy was murdered in June 2011.  Where did you see that she kept dating him after he pleaded guilty?

  • chessguy99

    She hasn’t been signed, so she isn’t getting professional guidance on how to handle this.

  • http://twitter.com/BuranaBurana Carmina Burana

    This kid seemingly doesn’t get it.  Yesterday her tweets were blatantly selfish lamenting her own fortune, today she still goes on trying to do some damage control using some ill conceived twits showing concern solely for her own reputation and career.  Not a single word about the victim and/or his family.  Sorry, young lady, you can’t get away as easily from this whole mess. It rings too close to her.  As a public figure, which she is or is trying to become, even if she had indeed nothing to do with the event, she is expected to address this publicly, I would go even as far as publishing a formal statement in somber tone condemning racism, the acts perpetrated by her boyfriend and presumably other close friends, and demonstrating sympathy for the the victim.  No consequence or fear of what she might face in hometown is an excuse for not doing so, that is what I expect from a public figure of any sort.  This is not a minor misdemeanor case, this is an atrocious murder for the most barbaric of the reasons.  Everybody hearing this barbaric murder reacts with deep repulsion, how can she not? Anyhow, not sure what the status of her career was, but she is certainly not going anywhere for some time, which I deem appropriate.  Hope she uses the time to reflect and grow.

  • quickjessie

    “Born to be brave”?  Seems to me she took the coward’s way and is still doing so.

    Was never a fan but she didn’t make me sick, either.  Until now.  

  • blackberryharvest

    Probably also not a coincidence she tweeted this a few hours ago:

    Skylar Laine
    @JoshMFGreen32 I was creeeeepin you! Hit me up some time! http://pic.twitter.com/BOhOGiDa

    It almost makes it look like she is trying too hard.

  • DB987

    Sometimes people lack of common sense is beyond me.  How could she not think this was anything but obvious and just makes her look foolish to be added to the other labels she has acquired in the past few days.I was never a fan of her singing/screaming/stomping act but thought she seemed bright and nice enough.
    You just do not know what really lurks behind the curtin do you.

  • bridgette12

    I totally agree MJ, she needs to stop with the tweets. It’s so self serving on her part to tweet Josh now, when the news has broken that she was with her racist boyfriend, convicted of hate crimes, even after he was arrested. But obviously it wasn’t enough to drag one black person into her own personal PR plot, she decided to add Jennifer to the her little tweetfest. Then there’s the GAGA lyrics tweet, maybe she didn’t understand what the lyrics meant. It’s not about lying and covering your ass when the fat hits the fire.  

  • abbysee

    Nice move Skylar pretty much seals your clueless fate for me! Eventually she has to make a clear statement. This not so subtle Twitter defense isn’t cutting it for me.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    may 2012, right after her old boyfriend dumped her.  They broke up the night she eliminated

  • MargieIdol

    This girl needs PR representation STAT.

  • bridgette12

    You don’t need professional guidance on how to handle this. Just tell the truth, all of it and then you ask for forgiveness, from all parties involved.

    If it had been my parents and I did something like this, they would tell me to tell the truth. Because I was raised that if you do it, you own it. Lying only makes it worse. 

  • mtlfan2

    yes that’s true. Thanks.

    More explanations from her would be necessary.
    I still believe she’s not a bad person

  • http://twitter.com/BuranaBurana Carmina Burana

    Sorry, no professional PR needed to handle this.  Her behaving and reacting like a normal, sensible human being would suffice.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    More guilty by the second. Tweeting pics of black ppl you like after this incident, it’s like someone saying I have a black friend when they are accused of being a racist, Knowing where Skylar is from, it wouldn’t surprise me if she condoned this, not saying she had anything to do with it, but it wouldn’t shock me if she looked the other way while all this was going on.  

  • nncw

    To use a euphemism she would be familiar with – she is like a deer caught in headlights, she is caught in a rock and a hard place. She doesn’t seem to have the wherewithal to deal with this situation so even if she is a good person she somehow can’t seem to defend herself in a way that is credible. And if she not a decent person then that has been exposed for all to see and no pr to come to her aid to try to cover up the mess. I hope she does learn something of value from this though.

  • Valarie

    She didn’t get a record deal. 19 has apparently dropped her. She is 18. Her world has collapsed. Is every one here absolutely sure she can handle this much pressure? Teens who feel they have no hope have been known to make a wrong decision.

  • MV007

    I wonder if anyone here thats not willing to give Skylar the benefit of the doubt, voted for Obama the last two elections.  If I recall correctly, he spent 20 years with Reverend Wright who had some pretty hateful views himself. Personally, I don’t think either party should be held accountable for the actions of others.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I actually do think most folks would need professional PR, or at least have purposely observed how celebrities handle crises, to know exactly what to say and do in this kind of siuation. She doesn’t have management right now, correct? She’s flying solo on this.

    People have been saying stuff about her so she tweeted some pictures. It probably sounded like a good idea at the time.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m still really disappointed in her for hanging out with those people for as long as she did, before AND after the murder. I’m very wary of her even as I *try* to keep in mind that I don’t know the whole story. She does still live in that town, and it is a small, insular place. But yeah, I’m not surprised her responses might be clunky under the circumstances.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    Yikes! She should not do that, it makes her look bad.

  • supersonic

    I come on here and the first thing I see is this post about Skylar tweeting pictures of black people.  I said out loud, “This chick here.” 

    She really needs to quit.  It’s not making anything better.  It’s not making her look better.  It’s not helping her cause.

  • MV007

    I only used Obama as an example of people accepting questionable relationships and not holding people accountable for the actions of others.  And its one everyone knows.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Ms. Laine just. doesn’t. quite. get it.

    Back on January 3, she had a PR problem that could have been substantially addressed with “I’m horrified by what my friends did, I’m ashamed to have never said anything when they were making racist comments, my heart goes out to the victim’s family, and I’m doing [something non-self-serving] to be part of the solution.” Not everybody would have bought it, but I think a lot of people want to be merciful and see reform.

    Four days later, her refusal to say those things means her PR problem is now stacked atop an ethics problem — and it doesn’t have a PR solution. Until and unless she demonstrates real soul-searching and a grasp that her friends’ behavior was wrong, any way she tries to bolster her diversity-friendly credentials will come across as hollow and self-serving.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    She needs Oprah, but sadly with her cast of friends she’d probably only be offered Jerry Springer :)

  • teacup

    She disgusts me. mj will you consider not covering her anymore on this blog?

  • quickjessie

     I did – proudly. 

    Please link me to where Rev. Wright – the Minister of President Obama’s church, not his BFF – went on late night sprees attacking white people or the link to where he ran over someone intentionally, or a link to his pleading guilty or being convicted of hate crimes.  Or maybe just a link to where he encouraged such activity.

    Oops, can’t do it cuz it never happened.  Guess the two things aren’t even remotely similar then.

  • BonnieDee

    I agree with this.  This is why I wonder, if she tells the truth, would she be implicating herself in something?  Is there something in the last 3 years that she participated in, or knew about, that would land her in jail?  If it’s not that, I saw somebody suggested that maybe Skylar was one of the informants.  If that was true, Interesting take, but I doubt she would have stayed with the guy for almost another year afterwards.  As I think about this, in her shoes, I would be repulsed by this guy’s actions to the point where I couldn’t even look at him, much less have a dating relationship with him. It’s all very suspicious.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Skylar actually kind of addressed it in the last half hour or so, kind of, to someone that must have criticized her.  Basically she said she wasn’t asked about the murder, but about a specific person.  Says she’s sorry for the victim/family, but doesn’t think it’s her place to comment since it has nothing to do with her.  Basically she clearly does not want to condemn her ex and friends.

    I also noticed she took the gun picture off of her background and made it a pic of deer instead.

    Then there was this recent tweet:

    Skylar Laine
    ?@Skylar_Laine

    So I’m behind, can someone fill me in on the ending
    slavery stuff please?? I saw some of my friends on Facebook doing a
    rally I think.

    Somebody needs to get her off twitter already.  She needs some guidance and stat.

  • steph6449

    This is really beyond uncomfortable. Giving the gravity of the situation with a person killed and her ‘friends’ / ex-bf apparently in an ongoing practice over multiple years to harass and assault people, the answer is to just throw out a brief comment and tweet pictures. Ok, sure. 

    Joshua probably got to know her somewhat well, and can speak for himself. But what in the world would Jennifer Hudson have to do with this to allow her name/photo to be used.

    Skylar really needs to get some good advice and mentoring. And I don’t mean only, or even mostly, on her attempts at a career.  If she was involved or an enabler on all this, she needs a lot more than mentoring :(

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Skylar Laine?@Skylar_Laine:disqus 
    <<>>

    LOL! WOW….(SMDH)

  • http://twitter.com/dam744 Damien Roberts

    I agree that this doesn’t help her case, but at the same time I think its pretty ignorant to be throwing accusations at a person when it comes to something so serious. And for what its worth she did say she had no idea anything like this was going on, so until I see any hardcore evidence saying she either knew or didn’t know I’m leaving this one alone.

  • Xentusk

    Why did she not contact authorities as her friends bragged about committing hate crimes?

    To be fair in this regard, she didn’t appear to have the background or live in a community that made this possible

    There was a link to a CNN article about the community and Dedmon, in the other thread about Skylar.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/22/us/mississippi-hate-crime-teens/index.html

    This is the final paragraph of the article:

    And he says police aren’t really concerned about Dedmon, even now as he sits in jail facing a capital murder charge.
    “I’ve even heard it out of some of the police officers’ mouths,” he said. “This is their statement: ‘Well, Deryl was a good kid. He just made one bad mistake.”

    The authorities continued to state that this group Skylar’s ex ran with, 20-30 kids, were never trouble, even though many in the community that were interviewed stated otherwise.  That their racism was well known, they never tried to hide it, and in fact appeared proud to be so racist.  This was known by everybody except for the police who’s job it was to protect EVERYONE….

    If this was the environment where she grew up, that the “authorities” still had this opinion even after the crime and arrest?  Poor girl didn’t have a chance :P

    That being said, she appears to be an intelligent person, on the cusp of adulthood, there has to come a time when she is forced for some introspection and understand the gravity of this situation she finds herself in.

    It wouldn’t be a stretch to believe that these recent ill advised actions were suggested by the adults around her who still believe the actions of these thugs were just ‘boys being boys who make a ‘bad’ decision’ :P

  • quickjessie

     If Jennifer Hudson gave permission for that photo to be used by Skylar I’ll eat my hat.  After joining WWs, lol.

    I’m quite sure JHud does not have a clue that pic is being used by Skylar, particularly under the present circumstances.

  • steph6449

    Right. Which makes Skylar even more idiotic verging over to possibly deceptive if she’s trying to give an impression of having some connection to Jennifer. 

    I doubt Jennifer would give her a twitter slapdown, but it would be well- deserved.

  • weareallinnocent

    Dang, S should probably retire from Twitter ala Miley Cyrus vintage 2010 (was it?) Short of that, just shut the f- up.

    I agree with you entirely, MJ. Right there on every point.

    I think we’ll never know what Joshua really thinks. Nor Skylar for that matter. Seriously, seriously sad.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    She just change it to the deer like 20 min ago when I was there last it was the gun.  Yikes, we could be watching a twitter meltdon

  • sdmama

    I am shocked that a lawyer have not told her to shut up, and stop making comments on racism while she is still entangled in a case like that. And I am utterly offended that she seems like making a light of the situation. Somebody was murdered, for God’s sake. “Bad luck” for her? Geez…
      

  • bridgette12

    As for the police, I don’t think she has anything to worry about unless she actually participated in what they did. If she knew something and didn’t tell, that jail would be full with the other teenagers and adults who also didn’t tell. I seriously doubted she was an informant. Those guys got nabbed because the murder was caught on video and then they caved in and gave the names of their buddies who were a part of their group.

  • steph6449

    Apart from anything else in this, if she is tweeting pictures of black people in some foolish hope if disguising or deflecting the situation, it certainly leads me to think she is none too bright.  

    Which could be a contributor to both the history and the unattractive conduct the past week or so since this story broke.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    I was kinda giving Skylar the benefit of the doubt on this thing. Now she’s appearing so naive. She runs into bad luck, not her ex or the victim? She apparently overcompensates on Twitter by citing Jennifer Hudson and taking a pic with Joshua Ledet? She better stop now. She’s almost beginning to sound suspicious about this whole thing.

  • Xentusk

    It also speaks to the ‘normalisation’ of racist hate in her community…that the abhorant activities of these bullies fueled by racism is viewed as ‘no big deal’ or a ‘youthful infraction’ …. 

    I’m not surprised that for some in her circle, using the “I have friends who are black, so I’m not racist” deflection is the ‘obvious’ way one ‘deals’ with this kind of ‘situation’

  • steph6449

    To me this is about violence. Her ex-bf running around with slingshots trying to shoot metal ball bearings at people? That’s way more than just attitude, even ‘hate.’

    And the little gang of creepy buddies who decide to celebrate a birthday by going out to harass, not just verbally but physically, a stranger is way over the edge. 

    I think they are thugs. Racially motivated, but if they weren’t of a mindset to channel their proclivities that way I think people like this would just find some other reason / excuse to put their violent tendencies to work.

    Skylar doesn’t seem so far as I have seen (yet) to have been involved in the violence directly, but her very unsatisfying statements about it, and now the twitter stuff, certainly don’t give a good feeling. 

    Just to avoid confusion, failing more evidence I separate this from her interest in guns, which like slingshots many people may own without taking them out on the town for a violent joyride targeting other human beings. Not just once, but from the reports, repeatedly and over many months. I find it hard to believe some of these “kids” have not been in trouble before, whether in school or being picked up for juvenile charges.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe some guys just don’t want the girl to leave them… That would hurt their ego… Or maybe he treatened her when she wanted to leave him and of course she believes his threats after he admitted that he was linked to those hate crimes…  aah pure speculation from my part.

  • Chicagolaw

    She really is just clueless, isn’t she? It’s almost offensive.

  • bridgette12

    You would think she would have been smart enough to stay off of twitter after her halfhearted, semi apologetic, taking no responsibility tweet, after this story initially broke. But no, she had the great idea, maybe if I tweet pictures of black people, people won’t think I’m a racist or was involved with one. What is she going to do tomorrow, tweet a picture of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr, plus the lyrics of we shall overcome.

  • Caro3278sweet

    Oh. My.

    Skylar. Just be quiet. Please.

  • Axxxel

    I thought this case is going to trial ? or because the kids said they were guilty , there is no trial ? I am sure Skylar will be asked for her testimony as a witness… Until then it is better for her to be quiet. I think these are confusing times for her…trapped in a community that has a certain view on the world and she does not have the (financial) means to leave that community…

  • usedtobelucy

    Note to Skylar: The ugly, avowedly prejudice-fueled torture and murder of an innocent working man and father requires a response based in suitable emotions — compassion and horror, would be two I’d suggest.

    It doesn’t require pr. To save your image.

    Yesterday, I said that I could forgive her, depending on what had really happened. But this kind of crap is so self-centered that I’ve changed my mind. No matter what happened, she’s too damned self-centered for me. 

  • usedtobelucy

    “I wonder if anyone here thats not willing to give Skylar the benefit of
    the doubt, voted for Obama the last two elections.  If I recall
    correctly, he spent 20 years with Reverend Wright who had some pretty
    hateful views himself.”

    I’m sorry. I missed the part where Jeremiah Wright went into town with the intent of pelting people with ball bearings and potentially cars because of the color of their skin.

    So if these guys had just spouted off a lot about how much they hated black people — but never deliberately hurt any — (not that that’s what Wright did, either, but … closer) your view would be that they would be equally as culpable as they are today? Interesting. I don’t agree with you.

  • steph6449

    Oh, she actually tweeted that. Yikes.

    It does not help that she appears not to be taking this very seriously. All she really had to do was take a somber attitude to it, deny being involved (if true), and shut up in front of the public.

  • usedtobelucy

    “I agree with this.  This is why I wonder, if she tells the truth, would
    she be implicating herself in something?  Is there something in the last
    3 years that she participated in, or knew about, that would land her in
    jail? ”

    Well, there was *something* behind the very careful statement that she didn’t know anything about “hate crimes.” … Maybe this wasn’t it. But the statement surely wasn’t an accident.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     

    Skylar chile…. The cullud folk and the rest of da honkies living in da real world done pimped yo game – it’s pretty weak and played out…  Time fo yo ig’nunt backwoods bumpkin behind to take a __

    #ISEECULLUDPEEPLE

     

  • MellyPer1692
  • potatorocks

     It sounds like the investigation is ongoing—that they are still looking for evidence on more members of the group.

    From cnn article after Dominicks plea:
    “We hope that today’s guilty plea provides further assurance to the
    victim’s family and to the community that the Department of Justice will
    leave no stone unturned to find those responsible for these senseless
    racially motivated attacks,” said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E.
    Perez. “Our investigation is ongoing, and we will continue to pursue
    those who participated in this violent conspiracy, which culminated in
    the tragic death of James Craig Anderson.”

  • usedtobelucy

    “Somebody needs to get her off twitter already.  She needs some guidance and stat.”

    True.

    I don’t think it would matter career-wise, though.

    Her career, such as it was, is over, I expect. Simply can’t imagine the music industry taking a chance on a totally unproven quantity with with potential liabilities of this size attached. … (and no pr sense, either, we learn….)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Skylar Laine
    ?@Skylar_Laine
    So I’m behind, can someone fill me in on the ending slavery stuff please?? I saw some of my friends on Facebook doing a rally I think.”
    Wow! You’ve GOT to be kidding me! Skylar, please STFU right now.

  • Xentusk

    I am not willing to condemn the whole community

    Of course I’m not refering to all in the community, just the ones in authority, the one’s that allowed for this to fester and grow to the point that an innocent was tortured, beaten then murdered, left on the side of the road.

    This includes the “parents” who raised these monsters.  In three threads on this subject we have focussed on Skylar and these young thugs….  According to the CNN article there appeared no attempt by the adults at controlling, curbing or forbidding this attitude among their young. In fact there appeared to be ardent denial that these kids were ever any kind of trouble….this denial is a far greater evil than the mere ignorance of it.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Skylar Laine?@Skylar_LaineSo I’m behind, can someone fill me in on the ending 
    slavery stuff please?? I saw some of my friends on Facebook doing a 
    rally I think.

    Snark about civil rights?

    Okay, if Ms. Laine resurfaces in 10 years married to an African-American gentleman and singing about diversity, equality, and love for one’s fellow humans, I might consider listening to her music.

    Until that time… dead to me. I have nothing more to say in her defense and will be a happier person if I forget she exists.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’d say it IS offensive.

  • bridgette12

    She really needs to stop, it’s gone past being embarrassing, it heading toward having a courtside seat to someone destroying themselves on twitter. 

  • http://twitter.com/therocprince Cory ??

    Wait what? I’m just finding out about this. This was the guy she was with during idol, and was so happy about returning home to see after idol? 

  • HermeticallySealed

    Actually, it’s a rally sponsored by the End It Movement. While I have no interest in defending her (she’s made her own bed), this seems legit, not snark.

  • teekee

    Not almost offensive, I find it highly offensive. Who’s guiding this woman? The very least the parents could do is tell her to get her behind off twitter.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Regardless, the timing of these rapid fire tweets which appear all designed to absolve herself of any possible suspicion of being a racist are just disgusting. In fact, they are starting to convince me that she’s feeling guilty about something.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Well, never accused her of being the smartest cookie in the Oreo pack.

  • steph6449

    I have to agree. 

    If she was seriously trying to support a rally, that’s a pretty dumb tweet to raise awareness. Vs. if she’s just flailing around trying to dig herself out of a jam… 

    IMO she’s definitely digging, though not in the right direction ~~

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    I can’t believe she thinks this would be helpful, she must really be losing it

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    “Skylar Laine
    ?@Skylar_Laine
    So I’m behind, can someone fill me in
    on the ending slavery stuff please?? I saw some of my friends on
    Facebook doing a rally I think.””

    That can’t be real?  Is that real?  That’s got to be a spoof account.  She can’t possibly be THAT stupid.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here’s an interesting exchange on twitter:

    Pxxxxxxxxy@Skylar_Laine The adage “lay down w dogs get up w fleas” seems to apply to you. Suddenly showin luv for couple blacks seems suspect.Expand  Reply  Retweet  Favorite2hSkylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine@PerfectlySpicy and I see 2 off the people I tweeted as friends and one as a role model.I do not label them as a race. But obviously you do.
     Hide conversation  Reply  Retweet  Favorite6:50 PM – 7 Jan 13 · DetailsTweet texImage will appear as a link1hPxxxxxxxy ?@Skylar_Laine No I don’t…just seems convenient that you did that instead of talking abt this forthright.Expand1hPxxxxxxxy ?@Skylar_Laine See how ppl view you now:http://www.mjsbigblog.com/skylar-laine-tweets-photos-of-joshua-ledet-and-jhud-and-it-isnt-enough.htm …Collapse7:48 PM – 7 Jan 13 

  • Caro3278sweet

    ACK.

    I just assume we A’cans are more advanced than this.

    God help us.

    sigh.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    More from twitter:

    Pxxxxxxxxxxy 
    @Skylar_Laine Why no public stmts of sympathy to victim/family murdered by longtime boyfriend thugs? Sickening. 2h

    Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine
    @Pxxxxxxxxxy I was not asked about the murder I was asked about a specific person however I am truly sorry 4 the victim/family. I don’t
    6:45 PM – 7 Jan 13 

    Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine
    @Pxxxxxxxxxy feel its right 4 me 2 delve further in2 somethin that has nothing 2 do with me. The Bible tells me 2 pray 4 EVERYONE so I do
    6:47 PM – 7 Jan 13

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    A very ironic tidbit just occurred to me… exactly who does Skylar needs right now?… Olivia Pope. Yup. LOL

    Oh Skylar, if you are reading this, get some advice from a professional. Quick. If there is someone out there telling you to lay low and it will all go away – well this is not laying low. Google “crisis managment” or something. I’m not kidding.

    I liked you and I wanted you to have a career. I’m trying VERY VERY HARD to give you the benefit of a doubt. Please don’t let this one get away from you. Fix it. :(

  • bridgette12

    No one could be this stupid, even if they tried. How could she think those tweets were okay?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X3L6AFNNELR2FMGCKEKYTV6PHQ Jordan

    I am sorry but NONE of you know Skylar personally to know what is in her heart, what her intentions are, how her true feelings are on the situation and what her relationship was like with her ex boyfriend. Maybe it wasnt a good relationship and maybe she didnt know who he really was, he is her EX for a reason. To judge somebody based on what someone else did is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselve for being so judgemental towards her.

    Think before you speak people

    P.S I was not a fan of Skylars voice in the competition and thought she made it way further than what she should of, but nobody deserves to be held accountable for actions the didnt commit.

  • quickjessie

     As far as I’m concerned, bringing up the Bible makes her tweets even worse. 

  • Chicagolaw

    Yeah, it IS offensive. I almost went back and changed that, but I got sidetracked by 6th grade math homework.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Maybe it wasnt a good relationship and maybe she didnt know who he really was, he is her EX for a reason.”

    Yes, he broke up with her.

  • durbesque

    Skylar’s next step is to make a video of herself performing “Swanee”….in blackface, of course.

  • Chicagolaw

    How about holding her responsible for her genuine lack of human decency regarding the whole thing? The way in which a person reacts to a given situation can be very telling.

  • vhill

    Maybe I give people the benefit of the doubt too easily… but what I gather from twitter is that Skylar is “truly sorry for the victim/family” and had “nothing to do” with the hate crime. A formal public apology is still needed. I don’t believe she is racist… however I do believe that her some friends and maybe even family members are… racist attitudes are passed down through generations until they are overcome. For example I never knew my grandmother but apparently she was racist… my brother’s girlfriend told me that she was racist and that she got it from her family. However that has nothing to do with me… my friends since preschool have been of all races. Maybe Skylar is the exception to her hometown connections- I hope she tries to change their attitudes as I try to change attitudes of people I encounter. 

  • vhill

    Also I am very confused about Skylar being engaged (was it just a rumor) so soon after Idol ended if she broke up with someone else in May. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m not sure that she’s “losing it”. As far as I can see, there’s really only been a few people, at most, who have tweeted her about her ex. The vast majority of tweets are from her fans who are expressing how much they love her and begging her to follow them.

  • seldomused

    I actually feel a bit sorry for her right now and let me explain
    why.

    She truly doesn’t get it, does she?

     

    Who, with any semblance of a broad view of the world around
    them, would twitter photos of black people, and even infer that one of her close friends is black, thinking it would prove that she is not racist?   Wow! 
    Offensive indeed.

     

    This shows me that her upbringing was very sheltered and Skylar has not a clue what to do at this point in time. 

    Is it possible that the town in which she lives is predominantly racist so much so, that she has no one to turn to regarding how to behave in these matters?  Maybe all her relatives, teachers, friends, and people in authority (cops, the mayor, etc.) are either subtly or blatantly racist.  If that is the case, she has no unbigoted role models on which to lean.

    I am not giving her a pass by any means. 
    I do think she is deep in denial of many things and doesn’t even realize the offensive behavior she has been demonstrating.

  • DB987

    We all have the right to judge people who see or know of an injustice and do nothing.There is no doubt that the whole town knew what was going on and did nothing.She is part of that town and she knew. It would only be shameful if we condoned her behavior.”When they came for my neighbor I was silent when they came for me their was no one to help me.”

  • usedtobelucy

    “I am sorry but NONE of you know Skylar personally to know what is in her heart,”

    Oh, based on her recent tweets, I think we have a pretty good idea of *some* of what’s in her heart. CYA. Blame other people for being racist. Express concern for a perpetrator and his family while demonstrating slim to no apparent compassion for the victim and his. Play the Bible card to justify focusing your sympathy on the criminal. Feel sorry for yourself.

    Doesn’t implicate her in any crimes. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t in some sort of abusive controlling relationship with this boy. Doesn’t mean she knew about the racist things he did….. Doesn’t constitute a good account of her character, either.

  • Chris

    Posting pictures with your African American “co-worker” doesn’t exactly make someone not a racist.

    What’s next, a photo of her and Randy Jackson saying “dawg”?

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    “Who, with any semblance of a broad view of the world around
    them, would twitter photos of black people, and even infer that one of her close friends is black, thinking it would prove that she is not racist?   Wow! 
    Offensive indeed.”

    Sadly it’s human nature to always try and find the easy or uncomplicated way out, but ultimately it comes down to “The truth shall set you free”

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Thank you! I thought I had gotten confused and someone else got engaged. But, yes, it was supposedly Skylar. Right? To WHOM???? At the time, I assumed it was a long-term boyfriend. I wonder if the media got it wrong as her ex did get engaged, and they assumed it was to Skylar.

  • http://twitter.com/Girltalkbf AlesheaDominique

    Pretty sure she was talking about the conference Colten performed at a few days ago. Carrie Underwood and her husband attended it. There was an organization there that works to end Slavery around the world. 
    With that said, she needs to STHAP it on Twitter.

  • merkureye

    Skylar is beyond pathetic here. 

    “I’ve got an idea. . .to prove I’m not a racist I’ll tweet that I am going on the same diet plan as that black person who used to be on AI. . . what’s her name? . . Jordin Hudson?  JHud-right?  Oh and I’ll send a tweet to a black friend. . .  humm. . .who would it be. . .let’s see – there was that black guy who was always hanging around Hollie on the AI Summer Tour.  I’ll tweet him.  That’ll show the public that I have a black friend. . . I hope he tweets me back.  I wonder if this bruhaha will hurt my chances of getting a record deal?  Mom, has anyone from Nashville left any messages?  No?  Have you paid the cell phone bill?  Strange that I haven’t gotten any calls.  The judges went crazy for The Wind Beneath My Wings. . .I’d better tweet that I loved Charlie Pride’s last album. . . .”

  • girlygirltoo

    Her most recent tweet

    @Skylar_Laine:disqus #I hate NO ONE in this world. I can say it all night an some will still talk crap. I have said whats on my heart and that’s all that matters.

  • vhill

    oh yeah, my brother was at that- Passion. 27 million slaves still in the world. people are jumping to so many conclusions. my advice is to just stop judging her. 

  • iluvai

    I believe her. The news/media goes for the controversial. Hang on Skylar. I have no idea why I’m even defending you, but I think you are young girl like my 17 year old. Believe it or not, these young kids are very inclusive and loving.

  • iluvai

    What is she supposed to do? 

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    Hanging around with a group of openly racist friends for many years, conclusions and opinions are inevitable. 

  • iluvai

    I’m not sure why this young girl has to be accountable for her boyfriend’s behaviour. Maybe I’m not following the conversation.  And if people are criticizing her because of ignorance/lack of knowledge, I think this problem has nothing to do with Skylar, but something bigger that needs to be dealt with in this country.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Yes, I realize what Skylar’s slavery tweet was referring to and I believe Colton and others responded to it, but it is the timing of all these tweets that seems off.  They IMO were very calculated in an attempt (from her) to rehab her image and when a few people on twitter have called her on it, she basically turns the tables and accuses them of being racist in return.

    That said, she’s been responding to some of her criticism tonight, and I really just don’t think she gets the bigger picture.  The only part of the equation Skylar seems focused on is people not thinking she’s a racist.  I get that.  But she wants to separate herself as much as possible from her ex and his band of thugs, but without actually taking a step to say anything negative about them or condemn their actions.  It’s less about people thinking Skylar was directly involved so much as she hasn’t really shown any sort of disdain or remorse for the actual crime committed.  She comes off as rather flippant about the whole thing as if the only thing that matters is that she wasn’t directly involved and people are crazy for questioning her about it, even though she dated the guy for about a year after the fact.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    I suggest read the fact behind the story, this a group of hate people with a long history of violence against those of another race.  This was her circle of friends.  Never has she denounced any of their actions, that kinda speaks volumes seeing she kinda got sucked into it.

  • iluvai

    Thanks for the reply. Where do I find the facts behind the story?  I really shouldn’t defend Skylar because I don’t know what is going on. But she is a kid and easily influenced by other teens. However she seems like she has a good heart.

  • elliegrll

    No one could be this stupid, even if they tried. How could she think those tweets were okay?

    It stems from the same source that made her feel that what her boyfriend and his friends did was okay.  It’s how she was raised.

  • http://twitter.com/Girltalkbf AlesheaDominique

    Agreed. But she also isn’t doing herself any favors with some of the things she is tweeting. I obviously don’t know her personally. And only talked to her a few times via twitter on her “before idol account” after she randomly started following me around the time her audition aired. I say that to say from what I’ve seen until more comes out I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. But she isn’t making it easy.

  • Montavilla

    I wouldn’t expect Skylar to a PR wiz.  She’s eighteen, and probably the only time she’s been out of Rankin County in her life was when she went into the Idol bubble in Hollywood. 

    I’m not going to defend her, but I am going to try to remember that she’s young, and came from a sheltered environment.  Given a chance to meet other people who differed from her, she was, by all accounts, open and friendly.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    Go back a page or two and the are 2 more story posts, with several links and much discussion in the comment sections.  Kinda lazy tonight and don’t feel like searching for them lol

  • elliegrll

    I believe her. The news/media goes for the controversial. Hang on Skylar. I have no idea why I’m even defending you, but I think you are young girl like my 17 year old. Believe it or not, these young kids (of the current generation) are very inclusive and loving.

    This seems odd to say, since we are talking about a situation that involves teens, who routinely traveled to another town for the sole purpose of harming, intimidating, and at least on one occasion, harming people just because of the color of their skin.  And on that one occasion those kids went back to their town, friends and family and openly bragged about what they did.  Skylar’s way of handling that situation was to continue dating her boyfriend for a year after the killing.  

  • iluvai

    Not sure how to respond. I don’t know what Skylar knew about any of it. She seems like a sweet girl. I think most teens (the next generation) are much more socially wise and tolerant than their parents. Do you remember Kellie Pickler?  She didn’t know how to pronounce salmon, lol… So being politically correct is probably a little challenging for some people.  It doesn’t mean their heart isn’t in the right place.   

  • steph6449

    I’d like to be able to agree with you. 

    It would be easier if she had made a more genuine / substantive-sounding public statement than what I’ve seen so far.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I never did warm up to Skylar on the show.  I do remember several people mentioned she was not warm at meet and greets on tour.  Some said she didn’t talked to the fans, but just signed autographs.  I don’t know how much criticism she deserves, but Skylar is not handling this well.

  • http://twitter.com/seanthdegree Sean DeFrancesco

    omg. She DOESNT have to condeem the actions of her friends. She doesn’t owe you, or the family anything. 

  • iluvai

    Thanks. I dunno. She is just a kid. She is going to respond/act like a kid.

  • elliegrll

    The terms “Politically Correct or Incorrect” get thrown around so much that I don’t think that they have any meaning anymore.  Even with that, I doubt that the term can be used when referring to the correct way to react when dealing with people who are bragging about harming or killing someone.  I don’t even think it’s the best term to use when describing how most people would react to this situation.

  • iluvai

    I don’t understand your post.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    So being politically correct is probably a little challenging for some people.  It doesn’t mean their heart isn’t in the right place.  

    I had not realized that “harassing African-Americans for fun is wrong” was something a good-hearted person might not readily understand. 

    I was raised to believe that yelling racial epithets, throwing things at strangers, shooting at them, beating them, and running them over with trucks was an absolute moral wrong. Making sure that the victim was a racial minority didn’t shift it from being an absolute moral wrong to being a debatable point of political correctness.

    My personal belief is that the definition of “good-hearted” is that one doesn’t stand by and see other people hurt, and one doesn’t say “it’s not my business to express sympathy” when one’s friends do the hurting.

    I over-reacted in misunderstanding Ms. Laine’s reference (though presumably she could have simply looked at Mr. Dixon’s Facebook page for herself), but the rest of her conduct tonight hasn’t impressed me. While I feel bad about my reaction, I still think it would be best if I avoided her statements in the future.

    It’s entirely possible that she’s a sweetheart and simply can’t express the sympathy and horror in her heart at how her friends killed a man for no reason other than his skin color. She’s ordinarily very articulate, but perhaps that broke down under pressure. Nonetheless, watching how she handles the situation is simply too frustrating for me.

  • iluvai

    ita.

  • Kirsten

    She’s eighteen, and probably the only time she’s been out of Rankin County in her life was when she went into the Idol bubble in Hollywood

    When she was younger, she was on national tours of “Annie” and “Les Miz”. She even went as far as Asia on the “Les Miz” tour. she was on tour for about three years.

    So, she has been exposed to the world outside that poisonous hamlet she grew up in and must have been exposed to some people on those tours who didn’t think harassing, harming and killing minorities was a fun way to spend a weekend night.

  • iluvai

    I was raised with the same values. I’m trying to be tolerant of a young girl who most likely in her wildest dreams would not mean harm to anyone.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    You’re right she doesn’t owe me or anyone a thing, she doesn’t have to clarify anything.  But in the absence of any comments I have the right to analyze the information and state my opinion about her character :)

  • iluvai

    Poor Skylar, you are the devil( incarnate).  Holy smokes girl!!  You should not have ** black** friends. That makes you a hypocrite. You shall not ride your cool 4 wheeler thing and have joy. Because you suck and are an evil person.  You should date Harry Stiles and all will be forgiven.  :)

  • elliegrll

    To make it simpler, this situation is very serious, so I don’t think that it can be simplified by using a label that doesn’t have a lot of meaning.  It’s not being politically correct to believe that harassing, hurting and killing people because of their race, or for any other reason, is wrong.  It’s not being politically correct to not want to date or be friends with people who do these things.  

    I don’t think that it would be a sign of political correctness for Skylar to express the same amount of empathy for the victim as she did for her ex, and his friends and family.  IMO, it would just be human, but I think that I was, Thankfully, raised a lot different than how Skylar was.

  • iluvai

    Not sure what I said that made you think I don’t agree with you.

  • Carriefan1

    Unless further evidence pitts Skylar as being involved with actions or knowledge, I’m sticking on her side. A terrible tragedy has occurred. The cops and the courts seem to be handling the situation well. The guilty parties should get the rightful punishments.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    There are many level of guilt on this, from the parents to the actual killer and many others will fall in between and won’t be charged.  Not being guilty in the courts does not make you innocent

  • suenigma

    I have a ten year old and a twelve year old, and I guarantee you that they would have responded more maturely, and certainly with more compassion. I am not angry with Skylar, I am merely saddened that whilst not participating in these terrible actions herself, she apparently tolerated these attitudes and actions being committed by her friends and boyfriend of THREE years.

  • suenigma

     |I was raised with the same values. I’m trying to be tolerant of a young
    girl who most likely in her wildest dreams would not mean harm to
    anyone.”

    If one witnesses or has knowledge of such terrible harms being committed, but does not speak out against them, or at the very least immediately sever ties with the perpetrators, then one is giving their tacit approval. It is a very, very slippery slope. Change the victim from an adult to a child, and the motive from racism to pedophilia. Would her actions, or rather, inaction, have been equally harmless?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I wouldn’t expect Skylar to a PR wiz. She’s eighteen, and probably the only time she’s been out of Rankin County in her life was when she went into the Idol bubble in Hollywood.

    From http://skoutlawsandholliepops….

    “When I was 7, 8, and 9 years old, I went on two nationalBroadway tours. The first tour was Annie and I played Molly. The second was Les Miserables and I played Young Cosette and Young Eponine. These were such life changing experiences for me. I had the opportunity to travel to almost every state in the US and to Canada, China, and Korea to perform inthese shows. I established a love for Broadway music and I still love it today.

    Another important milestone on Laine’s road to Idol was her participation in Berklee’s Five-Week Summer Performance Program in the summer of 2010. ”

    Skylar participated in multiple singing contests in several states during her high school years. She traveled to California for a five week music camp the summer before her junior year. There were pictures out there of her family at Ole Miss Football games and on Florida vacations. Skylar has been outside of Rankin County many, many times in her 17 years before she tried out for Idol.

  • ohreli

    Reminds me of how many Germans didnt “hate” Jews, but just followed orders….

  • Carriefan1

    The only ones that we know are guilty are the ones that are formally charged. Anybody else, be it Skylar, the parents, or any other random person, are all based on assumptions. Many times, someone’s assumption is wrong and can lead to destruction of the credibility of an innocent person. Based on what I’ve heard and read from Skylar she seems to have known nothing. So until further evidence proves otherwise…well, you know what I think. (I’m assuming, of course.)

  • ohreli

     Well Skylar isnt running for president, so its hard to compare her to Obama’s  situation….but I wish Obama didn’t have to wait until there was tremendous public pressure to come out and denounce the Reverend Wright….look, it just may be that both these people really didnt care that much about the fact that their close allies held disgusting views…and maybe even shared those views…just maybe…..

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ”

    – Edmund Burke

  • quickjessie

     Once again, can I have a link to where the Rev. Wright committed hate crimes, murdered someone, encouraged such activity?  Yeah, they don’t exist.

    Skylar’s friends didn’t just hold “disgusting views” – they KILLED A MAN. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “UPDATED: Skylar tweets, “I hate NO ONE in this world. I can say it all night an some will still talk crap. I have said whats on my heart and that’s all that matters. “”

    Now that Skylar appears to feel that there is no more for her to say on this subject, I think that it’s a definite possibility that Skylar has been careful not to openly condemn her ex and his buddies because she was aware of their racist attitudes and activities (if not the actual murder itself), and is concerned that if she publicly condemns them, they will reveal that she knew and did nothing. Since her ex has already pleaded guilty to hate crimes, her lack of criticism can’t be because it might hurt his case.

  • usedtobelucy

     ” I think that it’s a definite possibility that Skylar has been careful
    not to openly condemn her ex and his buddies because she was aware of
    their racist attitudes and activities (if not the actual murder itself),
    and is concerned that if she publicly condemns them, they will reveal
    that she knew and did nothing. Since her ex has already pleaded guilty
    to hate crimes, her lack of criticism can’t be because it might hurt his
    case.”

    Bingo.

    Bears repeating.

  • Xentusk

    …I don’t know if I’d go as far as that being a ‘definite’ possibility  (saying nothing in fear of causing someone to involve her in this .)

    Since many of them have already plead guilty, one can assume that it was due to the amount of evidence against them up to and including being named by a ‘friend’ who caved in to the pressure of interegation.  There is no reason to believe they would omit Skylar from the list out of the goodness of their hearts…

    So I would tend to think she was involved as far as having knowledge, or being in the vicinity of the planning of attacks…but nothing that they could prosecute her for.  Does Mississippi have a ‘good samaritan’ type law that propels you to do the ‘right thing’?  If not, they can’t go after her for her inaction.

    I think it’s simply, these are people she actually really cares about, maybe as far as strongly caring for their families as well, and she doesn’t feel like ‘piling on’ and adding her voice to the condemnation, despite having knowledge of what they are/did.

    So chosing to make a neutral statement that only states her noninvolvent not only spares these families further condemnation, but also keeps her on legally neutral ground.

    Maybe it’s just a matter of loyalty over all else, to people she may have known all her life.

    (Also, I tend to believe her experiences around the world and meeting different people through her talent ‘travels’ probably widened her perspectives so she probably isn’t racist but ‘tolerated’ much of the racism at home because that’s where she lived & what she knew and with the people she has cared about for most of her life.)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Those are all possibilities as well, but they are not separate from or exclusive of the possibility that I proposed, and it may very well be a combination of all of these possibilities. I would be very surprised if her thouhts and motivations were solely At this point, and given Skylar’s clumsy tweets over the past hours, I do believe that she was well aware of the racist attitudes and activities of her ex and his/her buddies and, at the very least, is trying hard to absolve herself of any suspicion of having the same attitudes, without explicitly admitting what she was aware of. 

  • Tess

    All of this is a “no win” situation for Skylar, as it is for all the other friends and families associated with the perpetrators of the major crime and those whose racial hatred manifested itself from thought to action.  And now all those who may have known of someone’s bigoted views but had no actual proof of a crime are being found guilty by society for not acting on their suspicions.  Its a tangled web, that in hindsight looks as easy as being able to solve a maze when viewed from above.

    Skylar has been demonized by her local press that made her the center of a story where she has never been accused of the crime, a crime, or even knowledge of a conspiracy to commit a crime, or withholding evidence about a crime.  But, it seems that some have chosen to blame her and to hold her responsible and to condemn her because she made some gruesome bad choices and they now seem to want her to right the wrongs of others in order for her to be able to move on.

    I find it interesting that its been several years since the murder in Jackson was committed and very few people reacted online, but attach someone with a “name” however tenuously to the crime and it becomes a far reaching story and the ever increasing fodder for online media and blog sites.  Sure I am outraged at the murder, yes I find those who act out on their bigoted beliefs reprehensible, and yes it would be a wonderful world if people shunned those who hold such beliefs but it just isn’t how it works….and condemning Skylar at this point because we find ourselves “mad” at it all is, to me only, a way of striking out at someone because we can’t strike out at the source.

     

  • fuzzywuzzy

    IMO, you are making general assumptions about the motives of posters which are incorrect and presumptuous.

  • Tess

    Ahh, Fuzzy you finally got me.  have a nice life.

  • steph6449

    I don’t disagree with some of this, but I can’t find the connections to be “tenuous” in this instance when Skylar was the girlfriend of one of the confessed perpetrators in their little harass-and-assault club, before, during, and after the situations that have gotten into the press. 

    And she was present at the party when the group decided to go out on the town to terrorize people, and as it happened, kill someone. 

    Wondering what she knew or what her role was — at the time, and subsequently — is more than natural.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Skylar has been demonized by her local press that made her the center of a story where she has never been accused of the crime, a crime, or even knowledge of a conspiracy to commit a crime, or withholding evidence about a crime.”

    So far, I’ve found a few articles that mention Skylar and her relationship to Dominick, four of which have quotes from Skylar/her family. In none of these articles has Skylar been “demonized” or has it been implied that she was involved in/knew about the hate crimes:http://www2.wjtv.com/news/2013/jan/04/skylar-laine-talks-about-joseph-dominick-ar-5293868/http://tasteofcountry.com/skylar-laine-ex-boyfriend-hate-crime/http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013301030076&nclick_check=1http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/03/hate-crime-mississippi/1807531http://atlantadailyworld.com/201301052937/ADW-News/6th-mississippi-man-charged-in-racial-hate-crime-pleads-guiltyhttp://www.wlox.com/story/20496235/miss-man-pleads-guilty-in-attacks-on-blackshttp://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/03/sixth-man-guilty-night-rides/Would you please provide links to news articles where Skylar has been “demonized”, since I cannot find them.

  • MellyPer1692

    There was plenty of outrage when the crime happened. Was it on an idol site? No, because the idol connection wasn’t made then so why would it? The world is larger than idol. Just do a google search on his name, there was and is plenty of outrage out there and it doesn’t have anything to do with Skyler.

    ETA: it has not been several years. It has been 1 1/2 years since it happened.

  • Montavilla

    Thank you, Taylor.  I didn’t know about Skylar’s travels.  That changes my perspective on her.  Not enough to condemn her on the little we know — but it does mean that she should have known enough to speak out.

  • wordnerdarchie

    With all due respect, aren’t we all  making general assumptions about the motives of Skylar, her actions and her tweets –  which could be incorrect and presumptuous?  I’m just a bystander in this discussion but isn’t it time for the torches & pitchforks to be retired? Metaphorically of course.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Well, Ima stay mad at people, places and things that breed and allow ignorance, bigotry, murder to flourish in plain sight, Ima stay mad at cowards who stand silently by and through that silence condone hate crimes and bigotry, Ima stay mad at the apologists and equivocators and the rationalizers who look for ways to excuse or justify the actions of animals and the people in their circle that perpetuate a lingering generational mindset that breeds hate and murder – and Ima be unafraid to call out the enablers like Skylar, anytime, anywhere, anyplace – this is no little discussion on a little blog where this will be forgotten easily.. Too may people have forgotten, gotten complacent, gotten soft when it came to race issues in this country. Accusing some of making everything about race, we don’t have race problems anymore, why we have a Black president! Goes to show you that evil like this is still alive and well and as long as it is, then lotsa folk gonna be staying mad and vigilant to call it out, AND call out the people who participate in or are complicit in allowing it to flourish..  

    This ain’t no kumbaya bullshit semantics ethical moralistic debate – there’s blood and some real skin in this ‘game’ for a lot of folk…  what goes around eventually has to come around, the day of reckoning for racists and their enablers and communities of racists and states that condone and have been complicit in a lot of racist atrocities and injustice is here… no free passes, no excuses – kumbaya was run over by a truck.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    Metaphorically speaking, I’ll retire when hate crimes, hate crime murder, prejudice, racial intolerance and bigotry retire… until then, I’ma live my life to the fullest, and never forget the price that was and still is being paid, in blood, to allow me this ‘right’ that so many still take for granted.

    #NEVERFORGET

  • Tess

    Racism occurs every single day in this country and much of the world.  It isn’t isolated to a small town in Mississippi and it isn’t always about white on black hatred, it is far more reaching and involves not only race but ethnicity.  I applaud those who have chosen to march against the brutality of it all, we have come a long way since my years as a teenager in the sixties where I saw more than my fair share.  But my belief was then, and still is now that education and understanding is far more effective then my participation in punishing those whose belief structure is different than mine.

    Anger, for me, is an all consuming emotion that often interrupts my sane thought processes and I have learned over the years that allowing anger to control me is to loose control.  People can choose to label me anyway they want and to dismiss my ideas because I am not climbing onto the bandwagon.  I just think enough people have already been destroyed by this incident, I just refuse to offer up another sacrificial lamb to the slaughter to appease my own personal guilt that I can’t control the mindset of the world around me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     #NEVERFORGET

  • potatorocks

    Maybe when the FBI packs up and leaves Brandon, Mississippi we will hear more from Skylar.  I suspect as long as the case is open, as long as they are looking for evidence against her group of friends, no one is going to be making public statements.  

    Others have mentioned shining a light on these kinds of towns.  In a matter of days we have learned about the city in Ohio that is covering up crimes against women,  and one in Alabama that had a student singling out African American and gay classmates.     Somehow, as a country, we need to give people confidence that if they speak out we will support them.  We need to give them guidance and resources beyond their own community

  • Tess

    You should come to my hometown where racism, bigotry, homophobia, sexism all run rampant under the guise of religious beliefs and thousands of people watch and do nothing.  The best I can do as an individual is to live my life free of hatred associated with any of them, and to accept people for who they are outside of the beliefs I disagree with.  I can’t control the big picture, I can only hope that at some point people “get it” and also learn to accept people who are different from them.  For me it has taken years, I wish I had known at 18 what I do now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     You saw your ‘fair share’, but did you live it? Did you or any in your
    circle shed blood, or put their life on the line to see justice done in
    the sixties? Ever had your house shot into, your school bus shot into or
    overturned on the way to school because people didn’t want kids with
    your skin color sitting in the same classroom as their kids? Have you
    ever been denied a place to eat, sleep, get care for yourself or your
    kids because of your skin color? My reality growing up, and the reality
    of others like me growing up in the late 60’s/early 70’s… We were
    guinea pigs on the front lines of federally mandated desegregation, and
    it was hell. So The march and the fight for justice and equality
    continues… education is vital… but IMO it is white hot vigilance,
    righteous indignation and ACTION, the kind that involves getting up off
    one’s ass –  putting one’s time, money, effort and sometimes their body
    on the line for a cause they are committing to seeing changed that is
    even more important… one can flap their jaws all day long on a PC,
    talking big about high faluting concepts and such, but IMO it took
    ACTION, people getting locked up, their heads busted open by police
    batons, bitten by police dogs, their skin ripped off their bodies by
    fire hoses, horrific images of folk like the teenager Emmett Till as his
    body lay in his open casket after some Southerners ‘fun’ THAT MADE THE
    GOOD FOLK WHO WERE INCLINED TO ‘LOOK AWAY’ NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK AWAY ANY
    LONGER… them days of turning the other cheek and kumbaya are over…
    folks want and seek real justice and accountability for this kind of
    BS… I hope the FBI, Justice Dept and the Southern Poverty Law Center
    stay on point to, in the words of a former President, bring these and
    other evildoers to justice… 

    #neverforget

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Maybe when the FBI packs up and leaves Brandon, Mississippi we will hear more from Skylar.  I suspect as long as the case is open, as long as they are looking for evidence against her group of friends, no one is going to be making public statements.”

    That may be true and everyone who was aware of this group of thugs (20-30 or so?) is being very careful. As far as when “enough” people have been found culpable in this conspiracy, I don’t think that some arbitrary limit can be placed on that number until the FBI/Attorney General have completed their investigations. So far, 6 have been charged/pleaded guilty, but there may be more to come. I hope that the federal authorities are thorough and manage to convict as many people who are guilty as possible.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “You should come to my hometown where racism, bigotry, homophobia, sexism all run rampant under the guise of religious beliefs and thousands of people watch and do nothing.”

    I feel very sorry for anyone of color, women and members of the LGBT community who have to live under such circumstances and subjected to such attitudes, while people who disagree do nothing but hope that at some point the racism, bigotry, homophobia, and sexism will disappear.

  • seldomused

    Once again, can I have a link to
    where the Rev. Wright committed hate crimes, murdered someone, encouraged such activity? Yeah, they don’t exist.

    So,
    you want to wait until someone kills a Jewish person before it matters ?

    Excuse me and I don’t want to take this thread off-track, but it often starts with “just disgusting views”.

    “Just” having disgusting views is how it all starts !! .

    Hitler didn’t come to power in a vacuum. The Rev. Wright is anti-Semitic and his views are every bit as hideous as being anti-black. And the good ol’ Reverend is in a position to sway people’s views from his mighty pulpit.

    You’re just turning a blind eye to how bigotry begins and how it can turn a whole nation (Germany) into a killer-nation. And it wasn’t one person being killed; it was 6-million.

    I voted for Obama, but his being buddy-buddy with the Rev.
    Wright gave me pause for thought.

  • quickjessie

     Omg.  We’ve gone Galt. 

  • http://twitter.com/cannon_x Cannon X

    Obama wasn’t “buddy buddy” with Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright was the pastor at his church. Rev. Wright didn’t hunt down and kill people based on their race. It’s a HUGE jump to even try to compare the two. 

    He also uses the terms “race card”, “politically correct”, and “liberals” alot. His favorite saying is “It has nothing to do with race”. He hunts, he’s very religious, and he swears he not a racist.

    I don’t know if he is or he isn’t, but people like him fascinate me…

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Alright now, preach it! I feel ya! 

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

     It’s difficult to see people defending her based on her hometown’s supposed lack of morals.  I mean, really?  Maybe she should have befriended the pastor’s son who was targeted for having black friends.  There are always choices.  She made the wrong ones.  

  • Tess

    There are always battles to be fought…my family did it on the streets of Warsaw where millions of their friends and neighbors didn’t “make it”.  Again, I applaud those who “fight” for the cause they believe in, but there are many of us who choose to fight the battles in other ways and through other means.  All the rhetoric in the world and all the personal attacks on those who work for change one step at a time isn’t going to affect the pig picture any faster, I don’t believe.

    And yes it is hard living here where the masses and I don’t see eye to eye. But we “do nothingers” are making small inroads and changing the ideas of those we can.  Its a little hard to continual stage full frontal attacks on a religious institution that has millions of members and on a state full of people who have been “raised” under certain teachings. Congratulations to all those who have been able to raise their fists in victory and have wiped out all the vices of hatred in their communities.  I do bow down to your skills.  

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Honestly, the biggest issue I’m having with Skylar at the moment is she’s intent on putting herself in the victim role.  I really should just hit the unfollow button on twitter already because she’s clearly running with the mentality that she is an innocent little victim being bullied by a whole bunch of meanies.  She can post what she wants, but I can choose to no longer see it on my timeline at least.  Perspective she has none.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Let’s keep this thread focused on Skylar, shall we? Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

     It’s difficult to see people defending her based on her hometown’s supposed lack of morals.  I mean, really?  Maybe she should have befriended the pastor’s son who was targeted for having black friends.

    A very young person caving to social pressure, I can readily imagine. Much older people than Ms. Laine do it.

    A very young person discounting her friends’ racist chit-chat as “just words” and “everybody around me talks that way so it doesn’t mean anything,” I can readily imagine.

    A very young person insisting to herself that her friends are good people and their hobby of assaulting African-Americans is a weakness that she, as a  Christian, should look past — I can imagine. I also genuinely hope that their time in prison causes the young men to emerge wanting to not do that stuff again (if only from fear of repeated punishment), regardless of what they privately think of “others.”

    A very young person panicking about being anywhere near this mess and trying frantically and ineptly to make herself look good — easy to imagine. 

    But there’s a point at which feeling sorry for Ms. Laine’s inability to extricate herself from this mire no longer requires that I applaud her or support her efforts toward a mainstream career. Her loyalty to her friends is laudable, but unfortunately, her friends are people who committed murder for fun. 

    Treading a line between seeing the best in her friends and supporting their journey while not espousing their beliefs or dismissing the real harms they caused  — yes, that’s genuinely difficult, and she’d benefit from some professional guidance. At the moment, she’s botching it. It’s painful to watch, and it’s beyond what I can support as any sort of fan.

  • mjsbigblog

    Skylar doesn’t OWE me or anyone else an explanation. But, in my opinion, if she’s going to speak at all she needs to CLARIFY her position, or just keep silent.  

    What set me off were her series of vague tweets. First calling herself “unlucky” as if she had no personal responsibility in the situation, and is somehow the victim, to transparently namechecking black people to prove she’s not racist. And she is still at it:

    https://twitter.com/Skylar_Laine/status/288701768660045825

    (Pussies? Really?). If she can’t understand why folks are upset, I can’t help her.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    I think we all agree Skylar wasn’t involved in the crimes themselves.  I just can’t believe you associate with a group of such openly racist people and not be involved in the conversation, and I don’t mean planning or details of the crimes, I’ll believe she wasn’t involved till shown other wise.  I do believe she would have been present for some racist rants and even the group joking about their beliefs.  Did she participate in such discussion or express points of view, that we don’t know.  But by not condemning them and their actions it doesn’t bring her into it.  Because if she speaks out some people in the town my consider her a hypocrite and than might choose to talk about her and what involvement she had with them. 

  • MissMyEm

    I always got the impression that there was a little political incorrectness (I’m being polite) in Skylar even while she was on the show.  I do remember thinking some of her comments were…well..not my idea of a person I would befriend.  I imagine that is her upbringing and her immaturity.  Maybe as she gets older she will find that somethings are better left unsaid and/or she will become enlightened.  

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    My God she’s making it seem, like she’s being targeted for supporting Gay Marriage or something of the sort…… clueless

  • DB987

    If anyone needed confirmation that she has no mangement team here it is because they would have broken her twitter thumbs  by now.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “And she is still at it:
    https://twitter.com/Skylar_Lai…”
    Skylar apparently believes her fans, who have misguidedly  simplified and attributed any criticism of her to people being “haters”.
    She really is clueless and it’s amazing to see her continue to contribute to her self-destruction.

  • Xentusk

    I guess I’ve reached the point in this whole thing where it appears I’ve given Skylar and her maturity, or ability for introspection too much credit….maybe some people just don’t have that capacity and, for lack of a better word, are just plain ignorant and lack the ability for empathy.  She appears to only feel sympathy for the victim and his family in a general, “I love everybody because the Bible tells me so” way.  Her need to distance herself from this ‘unfortunate’ incident prevents her from showing some real compassion or humanity to her fellow man.

    As a 15 or 16 year old you can excuse her inability to consider her circumstance and the choices she makes.  But, now, with her ‘dug in’ response to these recent events?  She is practically an adult and chosing to have a career that requires people to ‘like’ you enough to buy your ‘product’ and spend hard earned money to go see you?  That she doesn’t see how her current actions are so damaging, PR wise?

    I’ve pretty much exhausted any vestiges of ‘benefit of the doubt’ compassion I’ve had for her.

    She will just have to learn the hard way that the insular support she’s relying on at this moment might be the ‘only’ support she receives for her budding career.  She will not be able to grow her support while dragging around this baggage and it’s so unfortunate, for her, that she doesn’t have someone in her life that she trusts that can explain to her why what she is doing, how she is responding, will have serious impact to whether she has a real shot at a career in the entertainment industry.

    At this point, the adage, “Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt” might be what she needs to understand the most

  • waitingforthe1

    Skylar doesn’t need to PROVE anything to anyone since she wasn’t the one charged with a hate crime. 

    Unless of course everyone who ever associated with a criminal is equally as guilty as said criminal. 

  • ohreli

     Quickjessie, the question was whether Skylar should have remained friends with people who held disgusting views…long before those views resulted in this homicide!  That was what I was referring to, and what many of us were discussing.  It DOES tell a lot about a person if they choose to associate themselves with people who hate.  Obviously homicide is much worse—- but I think you will agree that hatred is the first step towards putting other people is a lesser category of humanity, and that is what leads to the callous indifference to the value of another person’s life to the extent that one can actually take a person’s life.  Hatred is the beginning of it all, and I personally would find it hard to defend someone like Reverend (“God damn America”)Wright just because he never specifically said to murder anyone.  Do you think a black man never killed a white man because he hated white people?  Hatred and racism is a virus that can attack ANY human being, no matter what their race, and to not be honest about that is dangerously naiive.  And thats why people are making Skylar’s friendship with these people an issue.  Hatred has to be stood up to….long before it results in violence.

  • waitingforthe1

    “Skylar Laine?@Skylar_LaineSo I’m behind, can someone fill me in on the ending slavery stuff please?? I saw some of my friends on Facebook doing a rally I think.”
    Wow! You’ve GOT to be kidding me! Skylar, please STFU right now.

    I don’t know, should Carrie Underwood also STFU?  She tweeted about the endit movement http://enditmovement.com/ a few days ago. 

    I think people are jumping off the deep end on this whole situation and are way to quick to judge.  JMO

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    “Skylar doesn’t need to PROVE anything to anyone since she wasn’t the one charged with a hate crime. ”

    Well the fact she chose to hang around these hateful people long before they showed their violent tendencies and date one after, speaks to character and moral compass.  You are absolutely right  she OWES us nothing.  At the same time no label owes her a recording contract because of this black cloud and no person owes her loyalty or support in her career after her association with these people.

  • waitingforthe1

    Well the fact she chose to hang around these hateful people long before they showed their violent tendencies and date one after, speaks to character and moral compass. You are absolutely right she OWES us nothing. At the same time no label owes her a recording contract because of this black cloud and no person owes her loyalty or support in her career after her association with these people.

    Well I didn’t realize we had a bonafide Skylar INSIDER here at MJs who knows the exact details of what she did or did not know.  Please do share the details with us….

    I find it HIGHLY amusing that in a world where the likes of Chris Brown has a recording contract ANYONE thinks that Skylar’s relationship with an ex boyfriend (whom she’s been broken up with for almost a year) would impact a label’s decision to sign her.  If they think they can market her and make money off her they will sign her. 

    I do wonder though, is anyone OUTSIDE the idol bubble even talking about this in regarding to Skylar?  Seems within the bubble there is a certain high minded morality that these contestants need to live up to that just doesn’t exist in the real world. 

  • potatorocks

    I would have to disagree.  There has been an evolution of thought here regarding Skylar after reading news articles, weighing one another’s opinions, and listening to Skylar’s response .  If you go back to the origins of this topic starting yesterday, I think almost everyone was very hesitant to judge. Some here have reached conclusions as to whether they want to be fans others are still undecided.
    It has been a process.

  • http://twitter.com/Stooch101 Stooch

    Well if you believe Skylar was in the dark about her friends racist views than OK I can’t change that.  Chris Brown was a great selling artist before his incident but was hurt greatly afterwards, he’s has kinda come back but still suffers the stench of the issues, but his sales allow the label to hold their nose an make money of him.  Skylar sadly is a nobody in the big picture of the industry and you’re right that’s why it’s not a big deal outside the bubble.   But try to launch her as a new and upcoming country artist and watch it hit the fan, when the media notice’s her and puts her under the microscope.  No label will want or need to deal with this in regards to a new artist, there’s another one getting off the bus everyday.  That is why she has no label and no management and as the saying goes “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze”

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I think there are a couple of issues here though.  In the first, the Chris Brown comparison doesn’t entirely wash in that it would be a different story if Skylar were already an established country star with cred in the business.  Chris Brown, who mind you I loathe probably more than anyone else in show business, was already an established star making loads of money when things went south.  Skylar might be able to overcome this if she were already a big name where people in the business felt the reward was worth the risk.  It will be harder for her trying to find someone willing to take on her baggage right now when she’s still a comparable nobody.   

    Also as unfair and horrible as it is, male celebs can get away with more than female celebs and then stage a “comeback”.  Which is not to say that there has never been a female star to win a second chance, but for whatever reason there is a double standard in the industry and females are less likely to be forgiven for their transgressions.

    The other argument I’ll add is if nobody is talking about Skylar outside of the bubble it’s mostly because the story hasn’t broken outside the bubble.  Which might say more about the interest in Skylar outside the bubble than the non-newsworthiness of this story IMO.  Doesn’t make the situation any less heinous just because non-idol blogs don’t seem to have any interest in covering Skylar.

  • Xentusk

    Also as unfair and horrible as it is, male celebs can get away with more than female celebs and then stage a “comeback”.

    Ask Leann Rimes about perception of ‘misdeeds’ and how it affects public perception and sales…..

    And Leann was beloved and had a long career in country before her recent public ‘misfortunes’

    Skylar doesn’t even have representation, certainly not a management/PR person that would have advised her against her recent wrongminded responses

  • Reflects On Life

    There’s another way to look at Skylar’s travels.  Being gone from home for so long and so often, she might have been so invested in her career and so ambitious wrt her dreams that she either didn’t know or didn’t notice what her bf was involved in.  Being so preoccupied, the 2 might not have even been particularly close – not the way that 2 typical teens attending HS together everyday might have been. 

    I have one friend that dated a guy for 5 yrs before finding out that he was a cocaine addict. And another friend who got out of a 4-year marriage after finding out that her hubby had been cheating on her for 3 our of those 4 years. And both of these examples were adults, not 15 yr olds.

    Plus, a kid who’s been out touring for so long at such an early age might be more like a visitor at her own school.  She might have made friends just to have friends, rather than being truly invested in the friends she made.  Lot of times, child performers who haven’t been home enough don’t even know how to make friends with their peers.  They say they get along with adults better than with kids.  And they tend to make friends with whichever kids will accept them.

    Not excusing Skylar’s behavior, just suggesting how her choices might have come about.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    A cheating husband usually tries to hide his activities.  The problem with the notion that she didn’t at least know her boyfriend was racist and hung out with other racists is that these kids didn’t see anything wrong with it.  They didn’t hide under white robes.  They blatantly used the N word all the time, according to one of the articles.   If I found out the guy I dated for so long participated in a hate crime, I would be revolted. I would say I was revolted.  I wouldn’t say it has nothing to do with me. That wouldn’t even cross my mind.  I know she’s young, but I’m not seeing any evidence that she even recognizes the gravity of the situation.

  • wordnerdarchie

     To be honest I thought her “not lucky” comment was about the fact she didn’t get that deer that she thought she hit.  There were lots of tweets to her about it in the day before she tweeted.  Sure, we’re all talking about the boyfriend and what she knew about it, but she could have been focused on the hunt.

  • Axxxel

    Doesn’t Chris Brown appeal to a younger audience… teenagers and twens ? what about the moral compass of that audience who don’t mind to be associated with someone like Chris Brown ?

  • usedtobelucy

    “Do you think a black man
    never killed a white man because he hated white people?”

    There’s a whale of a difference between hating and killing the weak and despised to show what a big big man you are and hating the powerful who have established centuries-old institutions that did and do mightily abuse you and yours. …. just sayin.

    As for “God Damn, America!” … Well, America isn’t a person, is it? Being angry at America isn’t the same as being bigoted against a person. It’s an extremely powerful institution that does many many things that are worthy of extreme condemnation. (I expect that quite a few of the American colonials used the words “God Damn, Great Britain!” as well, I might add.)

    This is quite a different meaning of “hate” than some bigotry that chooses to pick on weak people based on their skin color or sexual preferences. In fact, it’s not rightly defined as hate — it’s rage and anger. Which aren’t the same thing at all. Just ask the people of the Phillippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and many many more of lower profile. Not to mention the generations of African Americans who were cruelly enslaved and then thrown back into something almost as bad as continuing-racist-America-post-Lincoln essentially destroyed all the fledgling institutions that were intended to produce some kind of equality. And the racism — institutionalized in towns like Brandon — continues *today.* 150 years after we supposedly solved this problem with a hideous and bloody war.

    Sorry. Not buying your analogy.  

  • usedtobelucy

     “I find it HIGHLY amusing that in a world where the likes of Chris Brown
    has a recording contract ANYONE thinks that Skylar’s relationship with
    an ex boyfriend (whom she’s been broken up with for almost a year) would
    impact a label’s decision to sign her. ”

    Chris Brown: proven quantity (before the domestic violence) that the industry knows can make them *tons* of money and that evidence clearly demonstrates a large (if misguided) audience loves and will forgive

    Skylar Laine: *total* unknown quantity when it comes to earnings potential, audience potential and even quality-of-product potential.

    Music Industry(entertainment industry generally, in fact): very very very very conservative about risk. They know the rewards are there and are likely to remain there, when it comes to Brown. With Laine, they have no idea whether she can either earn money *or* be promoted without triggering a major press stink raised about this ugly episode and, should such a stink be triggered, whether a loyal fanbase would emerge who would buy product anyway. They will go with the sure thing, Brown. And refrain — always — from going with *anything*that has a fairly high risk probability but as yet no evidence at all of substantial awards.

    Her career: toast. at least until years and a lot of product and good work put this behind her.

  • usedtobelucy

     “here’s another way to look at Skylar’s travels.  Being gone from home
    for so long and so often, she might have been so invested in her career
    and so ambitious wrt her dreams that she either didn’t know or didn’t
    notice what her bf was involved in.  Being so preoccupied, the 2 might
    not have even been particularly close”

    Good point. And since it’s important to watch the company you keep if you’re trying to launch a career in the public eye, I guess a good argument for avoiding long-distance relationships in those conditions. She may have just seen him as a cool, tough guy — an Outlaw, as she likes to say.

  • steph6449

    So a generic black person attacking a generic white person in America (or should I say Amerika) can’t be culpable of racist “hate” — their only possible motivation is “rage and anger” and it is fully justified based solely on historical grounds. Despite none of the people involved, nor quite possibly their ancestors, having held a direct role as “the powerful who have established centuries-old institutions that did and do mightily abuse you and yours.” 

    Even if one wants to take such a abysmal view of the state of the nation ca. 2013, to me individual people attacking other individual people based on their actual or perceived membership in some kind of stereotyped group is hateful regardless.  And I have a hard time rationalizing universal validation of black-on-white “rage and anger” without ignoring that the history of slavery has not been exclusively committed by whites; that current U.S. demographics include substantial percentages of people (white, black, other) who’ve immigrated to this country since the 60s civil rights era, much less the civil war/Reconstruction era; that many of those people (white, black, other) came here seeking a better situation than the countries they were leaving, and often found it so individual members of the supposed “lower profile” groups may not consider themselves “weak people”; etc. — And throwing social/political/economic class warfare into the mix doesn’t illuminate it much IMO.

    Who’s to say in this case that Skylar and her bf and his pals are in any way the social economic elite for their area, going out of their way to find and attack impoverished “weak” black victims. I seriously doubt these stupid violent biased kids were looking at anything more than the color of the person that crossed their path at the wrong time and the wrong place.

  • HermeticallySealed

    The examples you gave were people who hid their behaviors. Her friends didn’t, they bragged.  They were KNOWN to be racist/anti-gay bullies in their school and town.  The only way she didn’t know their nature was to have been walking around blind and deaf. Additionally, she stayed with the guy almost a year AFTER this came to light. She knew, there is no way she didn’t. She’d have to be the most oblivious person on Earth to not.

     

  • potatorocks

    They were looking for intoxicated or homeless african americans that could not fight back and were unlikely to notify the police.

     

  • iluvai

    You have made great points! I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly and in your second paragraph when you talk about your children, they sound like wonderful compassionate children. 

    I don’t know the whole story with Skylar. That’s my point. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    And, the tweeting continues:

    Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_LaineI said the other day that I have the worst luck cause we couldn’t find the deer I shot. Well we have looked for days and still can’t. :/2 PM – 8 Jan 13VerifiedSkylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine
    @IAMJHUD do you use all of you 49 weekly points each week, or do you try not to use them at all??

    5:56 PM – 8 Jan 13

    Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine@mjsbigblog I’m truly sorry if u think bad of me in any way or if I’ve disappointed anyone but I DO NOT hate any1 an that is from my heart.4:03 PM – 8 Jan 13Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine@mjsbigblog I’m truly sorry for the victim and his family an pray that justice will be served completely and swiftly. Thank you for any
    Collapse  Reply  Retweet  Favorite1RETWEET4:04 PM – 8 Jan 13 Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine@mjsbigblog support that you showed me through idol and I hope to continue being a part of music.
    Collapse  Reply  Retweet  Favorite1RETWEET4:05 PM – 8 Jan 13 

  • usedtobelucy

     “So a generic black person attacking a generic white person in America
    (or should I say Amerika) can’t be culpable of racist “hate” — their
    only possible motivation is “rage and anger”

    Sorry that i was unclear. Never meant to say that. Of course, anybody of any race or type can commit a hate crime. Individual incidents are always possible and do happen because, as you say, any type of person is capable of this. (although I submit that, prevelance-wise, *most* “hate” crimes of a racial type pretty clearly are committed white on black, not the other way around — but, of course, that doesn’t mean they don’t go the other way as well at times.)

    The distinction I was making was between a hate crime against a person or persons (white vs. black, black vs. white, green vs. blue, whatever) and the Jeremiah White “God Damn America!” remark, which was the analogy the original writer wanted to draw.

    *That* is what I was describing as “rage and anger” — the railing against the *institution* of America. My point is that that is quite different from somebody acting on “hate” for another type of *person.*

    I didn’t intend at all to be making the point that are responding to. I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to say that a “hate” crime is committed against a person; a “rage and anger” outburst is against an *institution.*  … “America” in Wright’s statement can’t be considered analogous to the guy the kids killed in a parking lot, in my opinion, because the guy was a guy, and America is an institution and a concept.

  • usedtobelucy

    “Skylar Laine ?@Skylar_Laine
    @IAMJHUD do you use all of you 49 weekly points each week, or do you try not to use them at all?? ”

    Oh, Lord. Now I’m really starting to feel sorry for her. Why doesn’t somebody tell her to *stop*? Kid needs sensible advice stat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Very well and eloquently said

  • http://twitter.com/cannon_x Cannon X

    I agree about the double standard for females vs. males. Look at Charlie Sheen for example. Not only did he beat women, he actually shot a woman and he was the highest paid actor on television after that. People still love him and watch his shows.

    I just hope Skylar learns something from this situation and she could move forward as a better person.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Or R. Kelly. The list goes on and on.
    Skylar is a very young girl.  I can’t condone the company she keeps (kept), but she didn’t commit a crime as far as we know.  Frankly, I’m shocked by this whole situation.  I truly hope that she has learned a painful lesson.  Not to punish her, but for her to open her eyes and see that terrible crimes were committed by people she openly associated with.  I hope she picks better friends in the future. I also hope that her parents didn’t support these relationships… if so it could be a deep hole she will have to try to dig out of…