Siobhan Magnus Calls Out Simon Cowell: “He didn’t care…It was offensive”

Ah ha ha ha. Siobhan Magnus totally calls out Simon Cowell for sleep walking through her season of American Idol in a recent interview with a Branson radio station. The sixth place finisher was a finalist on Season 9, Simon’s last before he quit to mount X Factor for FOX.

While Season 8 Idol, Alexis Grace (She and Scott Savol were part of the interview, promoting their six week residency at the Andy William Theater) Siobhan describes a very different experience.

“I was on the last season that had Simon,” explains Siobhan. “And it was so obvious to us that mentally, he was already moved on to the next show.”

Siobhan explains futher, “He was not present for us. He didn’t care. He wouldn’t even watch the show most of the time! He’d be sitting there leaning back and puffing his cheeks out like ‘Am I done yet?'” Siobhan looks at her watch to illustrate Simon’s boredom.

“It was offensive,” Siobhan reveals. “It was really hard.”

She then goes on to recount how all of Simon’s critiques of her were about her clothes.

Simon’s horrible attitude during Season 9 is not news to Idol watchers. But it’s interesting to hear how the contestants who had to endure his bad attitude felt about it. Siobhan used the pronoun “we” often enough to indicate there were other cast members who share her opinion.

Sharing the bill with Siobhan, Scott, and Alexis, are engaged lovebirds, Ace Young and Diana Degarmo who discuss wedding planning in a separate interview.

  • Anonymous

    I’m happy Simon moved on to X-Factor. It was obvious those last few seasons that Simon felt like doing Idol was more of a chore than a job. And leave it to me to be the partisan, but I don’t really blame him for being bored. Idol just doesn’t change much. He was going through the same motions year after year.
     
    Having said that, it was disrespectful to Season 9 for him to just write it in like he did. He was getting paid high dollar to do a job and he should have done it to his full capability regardless of how bored he was. The one who should really complain is DiDi Benami as she never got the proper critiques. Siobhan actually did get critiques, she just failed to listen to them. That screech at the end of every song got old (to me, atleast).

    Simon leaving was best in the long run for both him and Idol.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Well, dear Siobhan, your season didn’t exactly give Simon or the viewers much to be excited about. 

  • Anonymous

     It gave me Crystal Bowersox, though! I’ll gladly have suffered the rest of that fodder for her. <3 :D

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3NQHPT3NA6VGKK22RCMTGOCII Tiffany

    True, but then Simon and the other judges picked the cast.

  • http://twitter.com/jack5791 Jack Olexovitch

    I agree about that, however, Siobhan was the only interesting thing about that season. Simon already got way too much money for his gig on Idol. The least he could have done is made it like he was interested and engaged for 2 hours a week. 

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I still say that season went off the rails the last week of the semis. Most of the interesting contestants left that week, and some of the mega boring who should have gone stayed. Pretty much the only compelling person left was Crystal. Casey and had the commercial potential but appeared as if he was barley trying, Siobhan lost her way and never recovered.

  • Kirsten

     

    Well, dear Siobhan, your season didn’t exactly give Simon or the viewers much to be excited about.

    I firmly believe that Simon’s atrocious attitude that year totally infected the entire season. It was like dry rot had set in.

    The producers were trying desperately to avoid Simon tanking the season (and Ken is useless, so he just made matters worse). The other judges were totally knocked off what little game they had. And the contestants ended up looking totally lethargic and whipped.

    And Simon, despite being paid $45 million dollars couldn’t bother to do anything more than phone it in and sit there like a toad. I mean honestly, if you get paid that much money, you can make a freakin’ effort you lazy a$$. If it’s too much trouble, don’t bother signing the contract. Ugh. Demonstrate some professional behaviour or get of the stage.

    And, Simon has NO right to complain that the contestants were boring. NONE. As the most influential judge, he helped to pick the contestants for the show. If he picks boring contestants its his fault. He’s supposed to be the A&R whiz kid. And it was Simon who was promoting arguably the most boring contestant who often sang off key like he was the cure to cancer. Like a great injustice would be done if we did not save him from his life of hardship in the paint store.

    Simon will never get my sympathy for having to be on that season because he’s one of the ones I blame for it (Ken and his total idiocy gets some of the blame too).

  • Anonymous

    I’d argue that Simon’s bored, non-trying laziness is still better than Randy Jackson on his best day though, lol.

  • Anonymous

     I loved Siobhan until she kept doing the screech and then when Ryan would ask her she’d just say “I do it because I know it keeps me here longer” or something to that effect.
     
    It just struck me as her not trying to think outside the box after that. Her best performance was Paint It Black, though! It captured the spirit of that song perfectly.

  • Eriko

    “I still say that season went off the rails the last week of the semis. Most of the interesting contestants left that week ”

    +1

  • Anonymous

    First, my sympathies to the Idol alumni forced to work with Scott Savol on this Branson gig.  Ewwww.  Where the hell has that troll been hiding, and what idiot decided to dig him up?

    I think there’s a lot of blame to go around with regard to the trainwreck that was season 9 of AI.  Simon definitely earned his share.  His apathy was apparent.  However, he’s not the only one who picked that cast littered with clunkers.  So, the other judges and producers share in the blame.  

    I never thought Siobhan was all that good.  The screeching bugged, and she was just so damn weird.  I’m with Tinawina in that I think the finalists chosen for the live shows left a lot to be desired.  So, I guess the voters share some of the blame there too.  

    And, I blame all of the judges for pretending that Lee Dewyze was doing anything on that stage that was even remotely worthy of the title.  Personally, I’m down with Nigel’s method of just pretending Season 9 never happened.  

  • Anonymous

    I still say that season went off the rails the last week of the semis. Most of the interesting contestants left that week, and some of the mega boring who should have gone stayed.

    ITA, all the good people who left in the semis got the whole season off on the wrong track.

    And adding Ellen to the judges panel was ridiculous, I’m still irritated she gave Tim Urban a hug because that move played on the sympathies of the audience & totally kept him on the show & resulted in a more deserving contestant getting voted out because of that ploy. (Altho he was good cannon fodder so I suppose that was slightly entertaining).

    All the judges were horrific that season, even though Kara redeemed herself slightly over S8 but her constant pawing on Simon’s arm was off-putting to say the least, and destroyed a lot of the good feeling I had toward her for her better judging.

    Simon’s piss poor attitude infected the whole season & everyone from top to bottom. No one cared and it was unenjoyable to watch.

  • Incipit

     

    ” Simon has NO right to complain that the contestants were boring. NONE.
    As the most influential judge, he helped to pick the contestants for the
    show. If he picks boring contestants its his fault. He’s supposed to be
    the A&R whiz kid. And it was Simon who was promoting arguably the
    most boring contestant who often sang off key like he was the cure to
    cancer. “

    Geebus, yes, Kirsten -YES to the whole post. In fact post it again so I can double ‘Like’ it?

    j/k – but not really.

    Simon was so bored he messed with the contestants heads, and when that got old – he messed with the audience. Phoning it in would have been less destructive. Totally unprofessional and useless. Warwick was just a different level of useless. IMO.

  • Hazehel

    What happened in Season 9 with Simon was predictable.  I said it before the season started that they should not let Simon have the last word in the judges’ critique, because he will likely try to undermine Idol so as to boost his own show.  The producers tried it once or two, but somehow still let him have the last words later (the producers have no balls I think).  

     
    I do also think that Simon deliberately chose some of the weaker contestants for the show (I wondered why they let some of the more obvious stars-to-be from the Hollywood round go).  Ellen was new to the show and probably easier for him to manipulate, and Kara was so desperate to please him that he probably walked all over her, so the semifinalists chosen were likely to have been due in big part to Simon.  

  • Anonymous

     ‘And, I blame all of the judges for pretending that Lee Dewyze was doing
    anything on that stage that was even remotely worthy of the title.’

    My theory about Simon’s support of Lee is that Lee’s such a low-key performer that he was the only one whose set Simon could sleep through from beginning to end …. Seriously. …

    Casey was quiet, too, but Kara’s moans during his sets probably kept Simon awake.

  • Eriko

    “Casey was quiet, too, but Kara’s moans during his sets probably kept Simon awake.”

    LOL!!!

  • Mateja Praznik

     Actually, Kara DioGuardi said the producers were heavily involved in casting of season 9. She said she and the other judges had a bad feeling when the Hollywood week was over and TOP 24 were cast. I think the producers knew Simon was on his way out and were afraid he would try to hijack the show. But in the end, they hijacked the show themselves.

    I agree that the semifinals made the situation even worse because almost all contestants that were halfway promising were eliminated. I have no idea why Simon got behind Lee. Maybe he thought America wanted another WGWG after the voters picked Kris over Adam or something. Maybe Crystal turned out to be difficult behind the scenes and the producers told Simon to pimp Lee. But I don’t think Simon saw money in anyone that season.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Jack, when the Las Vegas betting started with the TOP 24, the prediction was a Crystal/Siobhan finale with Crystal winning.  Her “Paint It Black” is usually ranked right up there with the greatest performances on American Idol.  She has such a fascinating persona.  I think a vocal coach could have helped her get control of her wailing. 

    I watched a rerun of Season 9 contestants on the  Larry King Show, and the contestants felt Siobhan had the most powerful voice.  Crystal told Siobhan she was intimidated by her voice.  I really enjoyed the season but never thought Lee was going to win.

  • Anonymous

    wait…alexis and scott are engaged?! i found that more surprising

  • Hazehel

    I think the producers knew Simon was on his way out and were afraid he would try to hijack the show. 

    I don’t actually believe that the producers would have done anything that will go against what Simon wanted.  Nigel already said that he left because Simon disagreed with him about the choice of a contestant, I don’t think Ken has it in him to oppose Simon’s wishes. 

  • Anonymous

    I always wonder how the season would have turned out if Katelyn Epperly + Lilly Scott would have stayed around longer…sigh.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OSOOTOBRL4XGHQNICOXCCN5IXQ lisa

    sorry Siobhan the screeching completely got on my nerves.you shoulda listened
    and stopped doing it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=195101108 Stefan Wind

    Siobhan should have made the finale with Crystal. That would have made the season MUCH better IMO. 

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Kirsten, I agree with everything you said. Simon, Ken, plus the other judges were to blame for all the problems with Season 9. However, the blame gets put on the contestants instead. I swear Simon was doing his best to sabotage American Idol while sucking every last dollar he could out of it.

  • Niall

    If we as viewers noticed Simon’s half assed attitude during season 9 it’s not shocking to hear Siobhan and the rest of the cast felt snubbed by him. Many of her vocal mistakes might have been corrected if she received thoughtful and invested critiques regularly. He was being paid millions which should have been the decent person’s incentive NOT to act bored. He poisoned the well and Ellen, Randy, and Kara followed suit. I do think Kara tried but had already let Simon mess with her head in S8.

    Oh DACE is adorably, disgustingly cute. It looked like they held hands the entire interview. My wedding advice is figure out what they really want and do it. It’s their day not anybody else’s.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I was not a fan of Siobhan’s, but that doesn’t make her wrong about Simon.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the problem was the show, Simon just wanted more control.  He felt like it was his show, even though Simon Fuller created it.  The Save was a way to pander to him, but he figured out that it was just a joke, and that it really didn’t give him any power.

    Fuller was right not to give in to him, the one reason why AI’s format is better than The Voice and X Factor’s is because the voters have the final say.  It doesn’t matter if everyone doesn’t agree with the decision, viewers still like the feeling that they are in the driver’s seat.  That’s the main element of the show.

  • http://www.facebook.com/judy.charette1 Judy Charette

    I still think Lee, was the best of the top 3, and the right 1 to win. Simon knew Lee was the most commercial of the three who would sell the most. For me Crystal should never been in the top 3.  

  • Mateja Praznik

     Heh, Crystal outsold Lee.

  • too-cool-for-school

    I was with Simon that season, it was dull, dull, dull. Doesn’t mean he should have been so apathetic about everything, but it was understandable. He knew he was leaving and the season itself was barely enough to hold many diehard fans’ attention. He could have tried harder, don’t get me wrong. But he wasn’t the main problem with the season, from my perspective.

    I forget about all of the contestants’ from that season regularly, apart from the top 3. Their names, performances, everything. Not an interesting group IMO and the production aspect of the show (Ken’s fault) was a mess too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34307244 Shana Collier

    “I forget about all of the contestants’ from that season regularly, apart from the top 3.”
    Generally, aren’t the Top 3 the most likely to be remembered of ANY season though.  At least I can say that I liked everyone in the top 3 that season which is RARE. 

  • iani

    ‘And, I blame all of the judges for pretending that Lee Dewyze was doing
    anything on that stage that was even remotely worthy of the title.’

    Lee as a contender was another typical  AI-viewers’ darling to vote for; the most constantly good(not so bad or something extraordinary in his performances), nothing wrong in his attitudes during the judges comments of his performances , fairly good song-selections to fit his vocal abilities, everything in “soft-tone” to balance the performance melodically, vocally, image and to get the same  “soft judgement” from the viewers/voters, to pass to the next level and ultimately to win, just like P2- or even Kris. The girls haven’t have that “soft” attitude as a card in their strategy(see some comments towards their performances, even some bad fashion strategy to be judged for by the mostly female-audience…)…Siobhan for example, she wad good in the beginning of the competition, some great song-selections to put in evidence her velvety tone, till she got more “courage” that she can do more, vocally going out of place, same for some of her fashion choices, because she felt she was one of the best and potentially for a win; she didn’t know how to play latelly the winner-card in the same soft tone she had started with in the semifinals. Simon was bored before S9, he was too in S7, listening x10 to same songs, same good or fairly good contenders, he was bored by the “good” and the nothing special coming from the 1h-show.

  • Anonymous

    I think that the problem started with at the top with both Simon and the producers, and their issues trickled down to the contestants.  The whole thing was just hard to watch.  That group should have been painted as raw talent, and likened to groups that competed during the earlier seasons.  That should have been the storyline or focus, but the producers dropped the ball, because they were paying too much attention to Simon.  They even made the final episode be about him.

  • Daytripper73

    I felt for the season 9 folks. It seems like they eventually gave the energy they were receiving which made an already awkward season worse. I think Siobhan had flaws, as did Casey and Crystal, but with the right energy and enthusiasm from the judges I think all had the potential to have made season 9 very good instead of dull. It worked hand in hand but started at the top with the judges attitudes, in my opinion.

    Diana and Ace should go with a backyard wedding with a few friends, a cooler of beer, and a barbeque. Then use the rest of the budget on an amazing honeymoon. More fun and less stress.

  • pj

    I agree with Siobhan in that Simon really did check out that season. Maybe he was bored with his own analogies and couldn’t come up with any new ones (cruise ship and transylvanian nightclub get old after a bit).  Or perhaps he just didn’t give a rats ass because he was moving on to x-factor.  Regardless of whether or not Siobhan screamed, Simon was getting paid $$$$$ for a job he wasn’t doing.  I still don’t know why Lee got a a pass for his off-key performances.

    As for Ace and Diana, good luck to them.  What’s the best thing about Idol?  Getting off.  That speaks volumes.  Neither are superstars but they both seem to be doing alright.

    I still can’t stand Scott Savol.  Alexis Grace left the show too soon.

  • Anonymous

     The season 9 problem was that no one wanted to be there. Simon was checked out, Ellen clearly didn’t enjoy the job, Kara was on edge about everyone hating her from season 8, the contestants like Lee, Crystal, and Casey made it seem like they didn’t even want to be there, and even Ryan seemed checked out.

  • Anonymous

    Simon was phoning it in long before Season 9. Let us not forget the drawing on Paula during Allison’s song. Contestants in the past have mentioned he was talking or otherwise ignoring them during their songs. In many a long shot of the judges he can be seen looking in just about any direction other than the stage. At first I thought he was trying to gauge audience reaction to a performance so he could run around and jump in front of it (so to speak) and claim that as his own idea. BUT as he so often wrong about how the audince felt I began to realize that he just didnt care to keep up.

    As he projected in interview after interview, Simon really wanted the show to be about him in every aspect. When that didn’t happen he went to a show that is by and about him in every respect.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Siobhan is someone who gives you the impression of being totally crazy, the most cool person in the world. But when she starts to talk, she looks like a less articulated Jessica Sanchez. Very weird! 

    I’d like she were on another season, like 10 or even 11. I think she would have done better. Her range is awesome!

  • Anonymous

    Simon was awful that season; even I saw it.  There is no excuse for abhorrently rude behavior, ever, and simon was just that.  I remember his face, which was rarely focused on contestants, for whom this was an extraordinarily big deal.  It did seem Simon sabatoged the season; he certainly did not care about the kids on stage or the audience.  If karma works, he should end up panhandling for his living.

  • http://twitter.com/KWOnlyDreaming Karen W.

    Crystal did sell more than Lee but not by much.  She didn’t exactly have great sales either!

    And I agree with Judy, Lee was the best on top 3 night and I feel that won it for him. Crystal did better on final night but I think it was too late at that point.

  • milwlovesadam

    I totally agree with Siobhan. I’m an Idol fan overall, and still miss Simon’s snark. He had actual constructive criticism most of the time about the voices and performances. What we have now is not judging in any sense of the word.  

    Say what you will about Kara, but, she did judge on vocal performance and skill.

    Simon’s ego is what it is. On XFactor all I can still see after a year is Simon on that settee by the pool, ogling the girls while they performed, sitting on one leg with his arm draped over the side, smirking. It’s all about him and his house on the Riviera. And his white and black t-shirts and moobs!!

    And, damn it, I’ll be watching him/it again!!

  • Anonymous

    Siobhan was right about Simon. He could not have been more uninterested on their Season.

  • milwlovesadam

    One more thing, for what Simon gets paid, in this economy, to phone it in like he so obviously did on Season 9 was obviously disgusting. For most of us, to know about the multi-million dollar salaries, and see half-assed work, it is just insulting to those of us struggling to make ends meet.

    I wonder how many fans could do a better job of guest judging than Simon or any of the other ones?

  • too-cool-for-school

    That isn’t the case for me, personally. The seasons that I enjoy, I can easily tell you who the top 5 to 6 were. Maybe I would screw up the order of some of them but I remember the contestants overall.

    If it bored me or I didn’t really have a favorite, I don’t usually remember anyone outside the finale or top 3. It depends on how invested in the show you get, I suppose.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I kinda agree, but let’s face that Simon also had a crucial role in bringing a very boring Top 12 (or Top13). 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    That was a big surprise to me about Scott and Alexis.  Good luck to Ace and Diana though.

    As far as Siobhan’s comments about Simon, she was dead on.  He really had mentally checked out of AI and was too eager to move on to the X-Factor. He may have been rooting for Lee to win, but I don’t really think he cared too much one way or the other beyond that point. 

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Those two eliminations, along with Alex Lamberts, still remains to be the most painful elimination to watch. I have never been more upset or pissed at a results show…ever! It set the tone for the show, and the season never recovered.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    What could Alexis and Scott Savol have possibly in common to be ready to marry? Really?

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s kinda strange how season 9 was boring and everyone did seem like they checked out. To the contestants, judges and even Ryan. But that season also seems to have a lot drama BTS. From Crystal being called a bitch in that AI book and supposedly Ellen calling a few of the contestants something along the line of being not grateful of the fans and experience. Crystal? Lee? (funny I heard he didn’t like the fame that came with idol from a radio dj in LA) Andrew? 

    I do agree with Siobhan though. Simon should have at least acted like he cared. I think everyone knew he didn’t care about the show anymore during the season.

  • Anonymous

    Lol Seriously. 

  • Eriko

    “Crystal did sell more than Lee but not by much”

    I guess it is relevant and subjective, but over 70k or nearly 50% more is IMO quite a bit. (to my knowledge Lee sold about 160k and Crystal over 230k)

  • http://twitter.com/BuranaBurana Carmina Burana

    6th place this year was Elise Testone.  Do you really think Siobhan would have done better?

  • Anonymous

     I think you’re misreading the post…. it’s not Alexis & Scott that are the couple, it’s Ace & Diana.

  • http://twitter.com/Lillyfield2 Cherry Lillyfield

    Siobhan seems like someone you talk to but never shuts up to let anyone else talk.  She would drive me crazy, I don’t think I could take a whole evening talking with her.  She does realize, I hope, she is not the first person to make comments on Simon’s wardrobe choices.  I doubt he changed his wardrobe because of her.

    Diana looks like Kathy Griffin.

  • Niall

    Scott and Alexis aren’t engaged. Mj was referring to Diana and Ace. It just read funny if you skimmed it.

  • supersonic

    Yeah.  I had to read it a couple of times to get it.  It might be the punctuation.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    You mean Ace & Diana? 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I think Siobhan had flaws, as did Casey and Crystal, but with the right energy and enthusiasm from the judges I think all had the potential to have made season 9 very good instead of dull.

    Siobhan, Katie, and Crystal made comments during Season 10 that they wish they were there to have JLo, Steven, and Randy as judges.  There was such high energy.  Steven would have loved Siobhan’s style and maybe encouraged her on her delivery of a wail.  Jennifer would have loved her clothing choices.  Randy did like her and she felt he related the best to her.

    Simon was a dead fish and his cruelty and stupid comments did make it difficult for most of the contestants.  At least Tim could get a smile from Simon.

    I loved Season 9, and Idol Gives Back.

  • Anonymous

    i…totally read mj’s sentence wrong. whiskey does that to me sometimes…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know, but what I can remember on that season I was still in my Lambert high that everything I see was bland.lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKPGOWSHLKLHHRL7DORPZXZ2NI Valarie

    I wish the season 9 contestants could sue Simon for malpractice.   The minimal standards associated with a salary of $45 mil., were clearly not met.   Idol is supposed to be a launching pad, and these kids were  torpedoed instead.   I don’t blame Siobhan for being angry.   They should all be angry, and I think most of them are.

  • Anonymous

    Lee hasn’t sold the most. Crystal outsold him. Neither one of them are commercial, though.

  • Anonymous

    Season 9 had plenty of talented singers; the bad chemistry of the judging panel was the main problem that year. They seemed to put the focus on the judges, rather than the contestants.
    I don’t agree that Lee-or any of the singers-acted like they didn’t want to be there. Lee, especially, overcame his nerves and grew on the show. He sang a lot of current songs. He did well singing in a number of different genres, for example, his performance of “That’s Life.”
    Season 9 was one of my favorites, in spite of the judging. I especially enjoyed the episodes when Adam and Harry Connick Jr. mentored.
    I missed Simon on Idol Season 10, when the judges were basically cheerleaders, but I think the Season 9 kids could have used some of that encouragement.

  • blackberryharvest

     Simon is the one who said he “fought for Lee” to be there.

  • Anonymous

    I feel bad for the S9 contestants, because they have received most of the blame for the disaster that was that season, when it should really be put mainly on the producers and the judges. Simon clearly didn’t care, Ellen had no business being a judge, Kara was trying too hard to curry favor with Simon, Randy was his usual (relatively useless) self and the judges and producers weeded out most of the more interesting contestants early on.

    Even the finale was far more of a tribute to Simon than it was a celebration of Lee and Crystal making it to the Top 2. I went to the finale, and there were so many tributes to Simon that I almost forgot that someone was actually going to be crowned the champion at the end of the show.

    I thought it was one of the weakest Top 10s in Idol history  in terms of overall talent & marketability, but they still didn’t deserve be basically ignored.

  • blackberryharvest

    He had actual constructive criticism most of the time about the voices and performances.

    Simon never gave real constructive criticism. Most of the time he used those tired analogies or would criticize their outfits.

  • Anonymous

    Although he clearly didn’t care his final season, Simon actually started to check out of Idol long before S9. I remember being so frustrated during S8 when Simon and Paula would start arguing about something stupid or start flirting rather than judging the contestants’ performances (often after either Allison or Kris sang, it seemed like)

  • Hazehel

    Those two eliminations, along with Alex Lamberts, still remains to be the most painful elimination to watch. I have never been more upset or pissed at a results show…ever! It set the tone for the show, and the season never recovered.

    Katelyn Epperly and Alex Lambert should have been in the finals, but Lilly Scott?  She was exactly what’s wrong the contestant selection that season.   They wanted Indie-type girls that year, and stuffed the show full of them (Lilly, Siobhan, Crystal, Didi).  The audience however didn’t care for them, even when Lilly Scott was given the pimp spot, she still got eliminated, I don’t think that has ever happened before.   The show didn’t quite recover precisely because there were too many people like her in the show.

  • blackberryharvest

     To be fair, even Alex and Katelyn didn’t really deserve it either. Alex was also what was wrong with the contestants that season-stage fright and the “Deer in the headlights” look. Katelyn blew it with a mediocre performance top 16 night. I think Todrick was robbed though, he had one of the best performances of the top 16 night. He would have made Season 9 feel more fun.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XY62PETGTXO3FFQXX45UKQ2O7M Steph

    I’m no Cowell fan but Siobhan is lucky to have even gotten as far as she did.

    Homegirl cannot sing a lick and when she speaks she sounds like she’s been eating paint chips. She can’t hang (vocally) with any of Idol’s great vocalists.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I agree they overstuffed the season with Indie-girls, but do you really think Lilly didn’t deserve it over the likes of Lacey Brown? She was polarizing for sure, but she wasn’t boring and at least she made interesting song choices. Of all the indie girls, I thought she and Crystal were the strongest. Once more, Didi and Kaetlyn were the most commercial of the Lillth Fairs that year, but Kaetlyn had been stronger than Didi (who I liked, but she hadn’t been good since Hollywood). Switch Lacey/Didi for Kaetlyn/Lily, and Todrick/Alex for Andrew, Tim or Mike Lynch and we might have had a better season IMO.

  • Anonymous

    “even when Lilly Scott was given the pimp spot, she still got eliminated,”

    Just struck me how different it might have been, had Lilly Scott been Willy Scott. lol

    Instruments, check; quirky style, check; quirky voice, check; band, check; remaking songs in her own kind of unmelodic style, check; general eccentricity, check. What a true artist she would have been, if only her father had had the forethought to donate a Y chromosome instead of an X.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    I read somewhere that the only way Season 9 was going to get any attention after Season 8 was to set themselves on fire.   Actually, I think Simon should have set himself on fire, at least he would have earned some of those mega bucks.  

  • http://twitter.com/KWOnlyDreaming Karen W.

    There was an article at EW that back in October of 2011, Lee was at 168k and Crystal 210k.  I’m sure they have both sold more since than but don’t know how many.    Lee was back on the ITunes Pop chart last month after his stint in Branson.  I guess my point is yes she sold more, but I wouldn’t say she blew him away.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Oh dear. I feel kind of like a dummy. LOL. 

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Simon is a pompous jerk with bad taste in music who buys the place on the charts for his acts.  I despise him!

  • Hazehel

    I agree they overstuffed the season with Indie-girls, but do you really think Lilly didn’t deserve it over the likes of Lacey Brown?

    It’s a matter of opinion whether Lilly deserve it over Lacey Brown, but I can’t stand singers like Lilly, so yes, I would choose Lacey Brown over her if I have to choose.  Everything about Lilly feels forced, her quirkiness feels like something she puts on, an kind of pretentious affectation.  She just doesn’t feel authentic to me. 
    She seems like a second-rate wannabe Bjork and I can’t even stand Bjork.

    Then she complained about Idol audience not knowing Patsy Cline when she got voted off, I just had to roll my eyes.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Simon was a jerk during season 9 because he was too busy trying to tank idol…. but Siobhan deserved a lot of the criticism she received.

  • Anonymous

    Simon buys chart positions for his acts?
     
    I’ve literally now heard everything, lol. That’s such a slap in the face of some of the great talent on his record label that has worked their way up with good material.

    Rebecca Ferguson, Cher Lloyd, 1D, Olly Murs, Leona Lewis, etc. They’ve all worked extremely hard to break the charts around the world. The people from his shows legitimately can have talent, even if you don’t like him.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    OMG, bunch of manufactured acts making tacky music who were not going anywhere (or have not existed, like 1D lol) until Simon threw some money on them. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Leona Lewis is manufactured tacky music?

    If the answer is yes, then were all idols. lol

  • iFoundIt

    But even if Simon had more been more invested with Season 9, would that really have changed the careers of the contestants?  I don’t think so.  It was really an uninspired group. Crystal had the best chances of a girl winning.  But then she took her battles with Jive in public, and that wasn’t the smartest thing to do, especially for a new artist.

  • http://twitter.com/ljrTR LJR

    I am amazed that people would defend Simon’s obnoxious, selfish behavior that season. He clearly sabotaged Idol as much as he could. He should be ashamed of himself, if he cared about anything but money. Glad Siobhan spoke out.

  • Anonymous

    People who claim that Siobhan “can’t sing” usually fall in one of four categories:

    1. Conservative middle-aged Idol fans who think any note above a C5 is “screaming”. These people usually vote for the likes of Lee DeWyze or Phil Phillips (i.e. the contestants with the least talent).

    2. Adam Lambert fans, who say the exact same thing about every contestant not named Adam Lambert.

    3. Fans of Haley “I can’t sing a low note without growling” Reinhart.

    4. The hearing impaired.

  • http://twitter.com/avrohama aj rabin

    I remember the 1rst results night of S9 when Tyler Grady and Janell Wheeler got voted off that the season wasnt starting off right and then the nightmare when Lilly Katelyn and Alex Lambert got voted off I knew the season fell off a cliff. And yes I blame Simon for not caring enough and giving them bad critiques.

  • Incipit

     

    ” Siobhan used the pronoun “we” often enough to indicate there were other cast members who share her opinion.”

    Exactly. This isn’t about “Shoot the Messenger” – it would be true no matter which contestant from that season said it. They experienced it – we saw it and heard it, and are able to go back and look at the videos to confirm it, if necessary.  History’s been archived…if we want to hear it again.

    Even to listening again when Casey James said directly to the judges, with gentlemanly understatement, “Not all comments are useful.”

    That’s the point. IMO. Of Course.

  • http://twitter.com/Lillyfield2 Cherry Lillyfield

    Yes, Simon acted like a jerk season 9 but to be honest, they weren’t the most likable bunch so maybe he just fed off their own vibes. For instance, I think I’ve heard that none of them even talked to each other after the tour, they are not so friendly themselves.

  • blackberryharvest

    Katie, Tim, and Didi all seem like they are still friends and seem to have joined the “idol fraternity.” I don’t think Crystal really seemed to like anybody besides Didi and I don’t think Crystal has kept in contact with any of them. I don’t think Casey really talks to any of them. Same with Siobhan. Aaron Kelly and Haeley Vaughn are still tight. Andrew and Lee seemed close on the show but I don’t even think they talk anymore. I think Crystal has a big heart, but she doesn’t seem particularly friendly.

  • Anonymous

    Kudos to Siobhan for telling it as it is. I only have 2 fav seasons and season 9 was one of them mainly because I loved and was pulled in by every song that Lee DeWyze sang. But Simon was rude and unprofessional. The kids did not deserve that. 

  • chili1000

    Say what you want about the current crop of judges, but the talent making it to the live rounds has never been better.  They are better judges of talent than Simon ever was.  As far as season 9 is concerned, it gave us Siobhan and Crystal, which gave me a lot to look forward to each week.

  • blackberryharvest

     I agree, the last few seasons have had the strongest casts overall.

  • chili1000

    Siobhan can sing circles around Elise – and this comes from someone who is a huge fan of Elise.  She really only had one bad performance in her season, but as Siobhan said, his criticism of her always seemed to revolve around her wardrobe.  Check out some of her post-idol live performances on youtube.  She is a great live performer and I have no doubt that the audience in Branson is getting a real treat.

  • Mateja Praznik

     I don’t agree. Season 10 had exactly 3 good contestants: Haley, Lauren and Scotty.

    Season 11 was about the same: Jessica, Joshua and to lesser degree DeAndre.

  • Anonymous

    Siobhan can definitely SANG. She was my AI9 fave, and is one of the best vocalists the show has ever seen. Not to mention one of the most unique individuals to have ever been on Idol too. IMO of course.

    Props to Siobhan for telling it like it is about Simon’s asshat behavior during AI9. You go girl! <3 SO glad that Simon is no longer apart of Idol.

    Oh, and Haley Reinhart can also SANG. ;) Interestingly enough. Haley and Siobhan were born in the same year. Along with Archie and Phillip. I've noticed that so far I've liked or loved the Idols who were born in the same year as me. Also. I find it odd that Idol ladies born in 1990 have yet to make the finale. *MyOffTopicRambleIsNowOverCarryOn*

  • Anonymous

    Well, how sad it is that coming from a contestant (my fave during that season) is a statement that is long speculated by the bubble about S9 – it looks like Simon did not care. I know Siobhan deserve criticism (and I only remembered roughly 60% where added with the wail, considering that the judges missed it and added it unnecessarily on the week she got eliminated) about her control and song choices(I like haunting tone, though and even though her song choices were bad, her overall performance still is above average and deserves more than #6), but it doesn’t remove the fact that the judges didn’t do their best to help the contestants and just became cheerleaders too on their favorites (e.g. Lee, Crystal, Casey).

    I actually think that S9 was quite underrated and doesn’t deserve the hate (the Big 4 of that season IMO – Siobhan, Crystal, Casey and Lee (yes, him) were quite talented – Lee was just overpraised and even though his nerves loosened later on, his vocal performance did diminish especially Top 6 onwards)) but the viewing experience of it was quite painful.

    Even though Katelyn & Lily unperformed Top 16 night (Alex did OK though), it doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve to stay over Lacey (“Landslide” was trainwrecky and “Kiss Me” Top 20 was quite boring) and Paige (still not sure why she survived after “Smile” – she did hold herself together until “Against All Odds”) IMO especially after their performances of “The Scientist” and “Change Is Gonna Come”. They were midcarders (I thought Lily was a frontrunner though) and I agree that a good season has good midcarders. 

    I agree all-in-all that if the production did find a more diverse group than finding the next “Taylor Swift” during that time and also the judging being more balanced I think S9 would have been more entertaining to watch.

  • Anonymous

    My S9 fave was Siobhan but I support Haley “I can’t sing a low note without growling (not true IMO)” Reinhart and I liked non-“screaming” contestant Kris Allen. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    And I disagree with that. 

    Lauren and Scotty were boring one track ponies, especially Scotty, the final was one of the most boring in Idol history.

    I didn’t notice Haley until Casey was eliminated, her rising was due to others falling more than her own merits.

    Naima was one of the most creative and unique contestants the show ever had and James was the ballsiest, having the nerve to bring the most controversial, most niche, most taboo genre to the Idol stage – heavy metal. Nobody can top that when it comes to doing stuff on the show that’s never been done before.

    As for S11, I didn’t watch all of it so I won’t comment on those contestants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34307244 Shana Collier

    Lee DeWyze is the only person from Season 9 I’ve met personally.  He wasn’t unfriendly at ALL, but just seemed super shy.  It was at the recent Branson show and he seemed to always be looking at Blake and Elliott (like big brothers) for approval.  Although it may not be the usual celebrity persona, I could definitely relate to Lee.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=34307244 Shana Collier

    I totally agree.  A good season SHOULD have good midcarders.  Thats where Season 9 falls compared to the 2 most recent seasons.

    For those saying Season 10, didn’t have that talented of a cast.  At least they had ALOT of interesting people.  This IS a TV show after all.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    True dat. And I can apply ALL of that to James Durbin too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    I am an Adam Lambert fan and have never said other contestants “can’t sing”. 

    But I think it’s fair to critique a Casey Abrams’ vocal on the NA since it was the topic of MJ’s post, for example. I try to adhere to the posting guidelines
    “Please do not make generalizations about groups of people, including Idol fanbases.”

    I also think it’s fair comment to note that not all of the amateur contestants have the same training that allows them to execute that C5, or perform the entire season consistently if the conversation is about “singing”.

    For example Didi Benami’s claim that her vocal chords were hemorrhaging when she left the show. Or Allison saying she was on the brink of laryngitis during the tour and learned how important warming up etc it.

    American Idol takes no prisoners with the demands it makes on the talent they cast. Well, at least in the past they didn’t.

    Didi Benami on vocal damage and comments about Simon and her season:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/05/21/american-idol-finalists-from-sanjaya-to-taylor-hicks-where-are-they-now-photos.html#slide8

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    In addition to Simon’s sabotage I remember Kara said, when promoting her book, that they ended up with lists of contestants that were missing people they wanted to get through and the judges thought the field got weakened. I don’t remember the details exactly but I do remember thinking how did it happen that you voted people through that ended up not there? I think her point was the producers were also sabotaging the judges selections but I don’t remember what point in time. But she said ALL the judges were in agreement on that.

    Here. I found the interview. It was Hollywood week 9 and apparently other times as well. I guess this may have been covered here when she released the book.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kara-dioguardi-reveals-true-story-of-american-idol-stint-20110427

  • Anonymous

    i agree with her, Simon had totally tuned out for that season, even Ryan was totally spaced out on each episode. But they weren’t the most charismatic bunch so it was kind of hard for anyone to stay interested…
    But I don’t think Simon was that present for any of the seasons, not for the contestants anyway.. Adam has been asked many times in interviews what Simon was like, how did they get on etc, and although he tries to be tactful, reading between the lines, the only interaction any of them had with Simon was at the judges table during the shows. He never mingled otherwise or kept in touch, not like Randy and Paula., Makes you wonder how he is as a mentor on xfactor.

  • mchcat

    I guess you feel this way because you don’t like country and that is ok – the ones of us that do like country are very proud of Scotty and Lauren – they are doing very well and not boring at all – they are both excellent performers

  • Anonymous

    I do agree he tuned out season 9 and I don’t blame him, because it was a season of uninspired performances and performers. Simon likes what he likes and has his own particular musical taste, which affects his judging, the same way it affects those who actually buy the music. Judges need to be inspired the same way the contestants need to be. Siobhan seems like a nice girl, but her problem on Idol was she had an idea what she wanted to do, but did a poor job of executing it. Simon did criticize her clothes, but he also did some critiques on her performances. Siobhan had a bad habit of wanting to throw in a scream in every song and she didn’t need to. Add that to the weird clothes and her quirky personality, no one, even herself, should have been surprised that she didn’t make it any further than she did.

  • Anonymous

    That really is all a matter of taste in music.  They are young country singers that are drawing good crowds and generating excitment in the country music field.  As far as their personalities both are indearing in there on ways and both have fairly good stage presence and put on a good show but might not be your cuppa tea. As a fan of Lauren’s trust me she is far from boring in fact at times she could be a little more boring.LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    Simon criticized MANY [female !] contestants’ styling. Allison too. He sometimes commented that it was the show stylists not their personal choice later in the season. Obviously these contestants didn’t bring all that wardrobe to the show. But his point was either their personal clothing needed to be changed or that even if it’s not their “fault” in the case of stylists, they need to be aware of it for the future. AND of course to snark the show’s stylists.

    And speaking of Allison, he was ironically right that she was “missing” some quality that limited her appeal, which IMO was just because she was 16 at the time although you see other 16 year olds with more charisma. But after her release and tour it seemed to come true. She took alot of arrows for her stage presence.

    But he took a broad view on what would resonate with the public – the “whole package”. Not just singing. He was the only one to do that including Paula who only commented on their look when she was lacking something else positive to say or if she loved it. Fair comment, imo. Some people wouldn’t vote for say, a woman dressed too matronly when standing next to a 16 year old, or vice versa.

    I personally thought they dressed Jessica way too old for her age when I saw some of her videos (I didn’t watch the season, though). Some weeks she looked cute and her age and other times she looked like she was wearing her mom’s gowns, imo.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you Sue about S10. Also just because you are not a Scotty and Lauren fans does not mean that you don’t like all country music. I thought they were boring and I like some country music and listen to it on the radio. I could give examples of some young country stars I like but I won’t. I do actually like Lauren better than Scotty.

  • Incipit

    “I do agree he tuned out season 9 and I don’t blame him”

    I do, bridgette12. It was unprofessional. Those contestants didn’t crash Idol – they didn’t choose themselves…that’s TPTB. And Cowell worked for them too. The judges get millions to Do Their Job. Was Simon only expected to earn that money when he felt like it? – Must be nice. For him…not the hamsters TPTB have lined up who deal with his pouting, boredom and childish behavior when he’s not intrigued.

    Siobhan’s performances, or any other contestant’s performances are not justifications for the distasteful behavior we all observed. I was happy to see the back of him, with his tired one-liners that had no substance, when he even bothered to mention the actual performance. 

    If he acts like an overgrown brat on his own show – well, he can answer to himself and the XFUS audience. (and his advertisers)  IMO. Of Course.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    I basically refused to watch Season 9, other than the last couple of shows, because of Simon. I couldn’t take his arrogance and sometimes cruelty. I agree most of his comments were about their appearance – not that that was unusual – he was commenting on that sort of thing way too much back when Jennifer and Diana were on, too. The whole show that year evolved to become more about the judges than about the contestants and I think that hurt the contestants in the long run.

  • Anonymous

    Judges need to be inspired the same way the contestants need to be

    I imagine that if you told the contestants they’d be paid $45 million in a season to do whatever they wanted on stage, with minimal producer oversight, they’d be pretty damn inspired.

    As it is, the contestants invariably have more limitations on their performances (ability to clear songs, time to rehearse, time to respond) than judges do (ability to sit in a chair for two hours at a clip, time to craft preliminary comments based on dress rehearsal), and they don’t get paid in anything close to the same order of magnitude, so having different standards for each seems quite reasonable to me.

    James was the ballsiest, having the nerve to bring the most controversial, most niche, most taboo genre to the Idol stage – heavy metal. Nobody can top that when it comes to doing stuff on the show that’s never been done before.

    Eh, I don’t even like Blake Lewis and I still think his attempts to bring in beatboxing and EDM were more niche and taboo than performing metal.  Have a contestant on the show who goes full-bore with that (mixing deck, distorted vocals, and all), and then I’ll consider that really breaking taboos on the show.

  • Anonymous

    Since the end of the show, Casey stays in touch with and has even visited Mike and Andrew. He has also has met up with Crystal and Aaron in Nashville.

  • Anonymous

    I have heard this about Crystal and Lee. Supposedly, he pulled an Adam Lambert and called some of his fans crazy once. It wasn’t in an interview though…………

  • Anonymous

    Yep. From what I have ~heard is that the S9 cast wasn’t as tight or close as the other seasons idols. Crystal, I don’t think she keeps in touch with anyone. Casey wasn’t close either (but someone just posted that he does keep in touch with Mike and Andrew). Lee doesn’t talk to anyone and I have heard that he never did like the experience and fame that came with idol. He’s not a shy person at all, just didn’t like the fame I guess. Andrew, Katie, Tim and Didi are all close and seem friendly.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I’m speaking about them in the context of the show. I found Carrie Underwood very dull and boring when she was on Idol as well. I didn’t watch all of S11 but when I did Skylar was my fave and she’s country, so I’m not basing my critiques on genre preference but on how they performed. It’s a TV show and I want to be entertained, if you don’t entertain me you don’t get my vote.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Eh, I don’t even like Blake Lewis and I still think his attempts to bring in beatboxing and EDM were more niche and taboo than performing metal.  Have a contestant on the show who goes full-bore with that (mixing deck, distorted vocals, and all), and then I’ll consider that really breaking taboos on the show.

    Totally disagree, I mean are you kidding me??? Beat boxing more niche, controversial and taboo than heavy metal, what the core conservative Idol viewing demo consider’s devil’s music?

    The only thing that can top heavy metal is a more extreme variant of metal like death metal.

    As soon as I see someone on AI covering Cannibal Corpse, then I’ll say James has been topped.

  • Anonymous

    Thats fair but it still does speak to taste as I found Skylar to be entertaining  but not a very good singer so I could never give her my vote. So I guess I weigh singing and performance together to come up with whom I like and place my vote.

  • Anonymous

    Beat boxing more niche, controversial and taboo than heavy metal, what the core conservative Idol viewing demo consider’s devil’s music?

    The “core conservative Idol viewing demo” is steeped in classic rock.  Durbin was not exactly doing coregrind on stage.  His true metal performances were YGATC (a mainstream rock single) and HM (from Standing Hampton, which had a lot of pop crossover).  I consider that an evolutionary step from other contestants’ classic rock performances at best.

    The emphasis on rhythm and distortion in beatboxing and EDM is more taboo on a show like AI than classic metal tracks, because it gets away from vocals to a greater degree.

    At any rate, I don’t think any contestant’s relative novelty or unfamiliarity should change whether or not the judges do their job, for Magnus, Durbin, or anyone else.

  • http://twitter.com/galaga6846 Leah Hoffman

    They have a lot in common, especially a love of singing and music, and AI is a common bond that not many people can share. Plus, you don’t know them personally, so how can you judge?

  • http://twitter.com/galaga6846 Leah Hoffman

    Wait… so, are Scott and Alexis engaged too, or not?  If so, I think it’s kind of awesome.

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    The topic is Siobhan and her remarks about Simon. Rehashing old seasons of Idol apart from the topic is ABSOLUTELY off topic.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Cherry and Leandro, I really need to disagree with your opinions.

    I do believe I am the only person in IODL LAND that actually spoke with Siobhan on the telephone before the tour began!  The Idols were staying at the hotel where one of my daughter’s co-workers got married.  She went past the restaurant/lounge area and spoke with Siobhan, Michael, Andrew, and Tim.  (She told Tim he was better looking in person!)

    She thought Siobhan was so sweet and got an autograph from her!  Ten minutes later, she went back and told her what a huge fan I was and would she mind talking to me.  Siobhan spoke with me on the phone.  So nice and appreciative of her fans!  Later, we spoke after the concert, and she remembered my daughter (who interrupted her meal).  We shared a few laughs – such a fun, silly, nice young lady!

    I am sure Siobhan and Diana have much to discuss regarding Simon.  He seemed to enjoy breaking the spirits of the young teen girls.  Yet, he never broke Diana’s joy and spirit.  Simon is not a nice human being, IMO!

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Siobhan is someone who gives you the impression of being totally crazy, the most cool person in the world. But when she starts to talk, she looks like a less articulated Jessica Sanchez. Very weird!

    Oops…Leandro, in rereading yoiur post it seems you like Siobhan.  Yes, she has had her crazy, fun moments!  As you probably can tell, she is my favorite female Idol contestant.  Diana DeGarmo is right up there.  I should be going to Branson, MO!!  Wish I could…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I find her boring when she talks, most of the time. Just it. She’s an incredible singer, not perfect, but none of the incredible signers are perfect. I think she has something special but unfortunately it’s against all the odds that she’ll have a successfull career.

  • chili1000

    Heh.  Season 10 – you’re forgetting about James, Casey, Paul, Thia, Pia and Naima.  Season 11 – you’ve already forgotten about Hollie, Skylar, Elise, Colton and Erika.  I ALWAYS discount absolute pronouncements that certain contestants have no talent or can’t sing.  You just don’t make it to the finals of these live shows if you don’t have talent and have zero appeal.  The puffery and snarkiness that sometimes exists on this blog aside, there is no denying that the groups in these past two seasons, AS A WHOLE, were as diverse and as entertaining as any in the history of American Idol.  My experience with the show tells me that the talent has never been better, and my feelings are backed up by sites such as whatnottosing which accumulate and quantify the subjective peformance assessments from week to week.

    Bottom line for me: American Idol is better off with Simon in its rear view mirror.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you cannot put all of blame on Simon. What about Ellen and Kara DioGuardi? All of the judges that year looked uncomfortable and ill-at-ease. You could tell none of them wanted to be there. But ultimately, when the show ends, it’s up to the contestants to take the ball and run with it, so stop pointing fingers. I personally think this group of contestants had the least amount talent of any year.

  • Incipit

    “you cannot put all of blame on Simon.”

    Sure you can, SnowFairy444, since we are talking about ‘his’ behavior. He’s a grown man, responsible for his own actions. What other people do, or don’t chose to do has no mitigating factor for his own choices.

    I didn’t let my teenagers (when I had some) get away with that excuse. It has even less credence for me regarding the choices Cowell made. If he’s not years beyond Peer Pressure and following the crowd to look cool, and everybody else was doing it, etc – all the other excuses..that’s just sad.

    Especially considering ‘he’ set the tone for the judges panel, with his obvious boredom and random snipes, and the way contestants (and the newer judges) were treated; I see you noticed it too – “All of the judges that year looked uncomfortable and ill-at-ease.” The others took their cues from him…or was he copying some one else? Like Nigel? Heh.

    He was a Brat. IMO. He can own it – Lord knows he can afford it! *Snerk* And Lord knows he doesn’t care.

  • Anonymous

    Ellen, Kara, and Randy are also adults and professionals and could have added something to that judges panel and they obviously did not. Ridiculous to put all the blame on one person.

    The worst and most disappointing was Ellen who looked like a deer in headlights most of the time. Her uncomfortableness seeped thru the TV screen. It’s too bad the contestants ended up with judges that didn’t care and didn’t want to be there. But, after the show ends, it’s still up to the constestant to make something of themselves. Many constestants still do not get that American Idol is nothing more than a stepping stone.

  • Incipit

    “Ridiculous to put all the blame on one person.”

    ~Le Sigh~ I put the blame for Cowell’s unprofessional behavior on Cowell. Where else would it go? That’s what this is about – what Siobhan is saying. He didn’t care. OK, NBD. But he not only let it show, he made it all about his boredom. And that ‘is’ offensive, IMO.

    There are links here of interviews with Kara and quotes from Ellen about just how uncomfortable they were on the show. Both Cowell and TPTB were creating that atmosphere. Ellen was the smart one – she got out of Dodge on her own steam…Kara waited until her parking space disappeared – figuratively (Or maybe even literally, IDK).

    But the thread isn’t about the other judges – not even about what the contestants do after Idol. “Simon’s horrible attitude during Season 9 is not news to Idol watchers.” It really isn’t. And it’s all documented, from that season, and from those before it. But in Season 9, Cowell out did himself…and viewers saw it – no matter what excuses are offered.
    ~~

    Missed your edit – “What Siobhan needs to do is to stop pointing fingers at others and point them straight at herself.”

    So, it was all ‘her’ fault, the way Cowell acted toward the contestants? That’s a stretch and a half for me. In fact, it’s so beyond belief…no snark would cover it…so I don’t have any. We certainly will have to disagree. Way it goes.

  • Anonymous

    We’ll have to agree to disagree.

    What Siobhan needs to do is to stop pointing fingers at others and point them straight at herself.

    Goodnight.

  • Anonymous

    I think that somewhere in the competition the judges realized that this group only had mediocre talent, at best, therefore, they gave up. It was a sinking ship that nobody could save. I wouldn’t say that it was Siobhan’s fault specifically, it was the whole group that stunk, with the exception of Casey James and Crystal, who I thought had decent talent.

    Also, by pointing fingers, I mean Siobhan needs to stop blaming others for her lack of success.

  • Reflects On Life

    I think it was abundantly clear that simon was just going through the motions in S9.  Only toward the end, when he sheparded Lee to victory with his massively overproduced Hallelujah, did Simon show any interest at all in the season.  But Simon, like the rest of us, had his jaw on the floor watching the semifinals implode and take the rest of the season down with it. I don’t think he ever “got” Siobhan, he seemed to respect Crystal’s talent most of the season (till he turned toward Lee), and I don’t think he even bothered to learn the names of the rest of the cast.

  • Mateja Praznik

     I really don’t care about the others. I mean, it’s not like they are talentless, but they have no “spark”. They are just fodder.

  • Incipit

    “Also, by pointing fingers, I mean Siobhan needs to stop blaming others for her lack of success.”

    Except. She didn’t. Where in the world is that coming from? I just listened to that video again. They are not even talking about anyone’s success, or lack thereof – they are talking about Cowell – and the different experiences each one of them had in their seaons.

    That’s all I’ve been talking about, Cowell and Season 9, based on that video.  It appears we have been having separate conversations – and I don’t even know what yours is based on. I’ve never heard Siobhan blame anything about her music or gigs, or whatever, on anyone…perhaps you have a link? (although that’s likely OT)

  • Anonymous

    I never was a fan of Siobhan, but she hit it right on the mark. Simon should actually apologize for his behavior. Those kids were singing for their life and he couldn’t take 2 minutes out of his three hour work week to listen to them. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I totally agree, chili. Even though, I too am a fan of Elise, Siobhan is on a whole other plane than other performers. She is so present in her performances, and gives every bit of herself. And, yes….. her post Idol stuff just keeps getting better & better. She’s amazing.

  • Anonymous

    Simon has quite a cruel streak. Siobhan, and many other contestants did not deserve what he was dishing out.  He likes humiliating these young ones. I’m glad he’s gone. I just wish he would have been gone while Siobhan was a contestant. She is so unbelieveably talented ( go to YouTube and type in her name, and “Somehow, Someday” . Unbelieveable performance) , and did not deserve his crap.  His behavior is shameful!!

  • Anonymous

    Siobhan boring when she talk?  Did you ever see the Idolotry interviews? She’s hysterical. She should even have her own talk show.

  • http://twitter.com/LindsayKempFan Not fit to print

    The other judges could have done something, I guess, but each of them may have felt it wasn’t worth the grief. Simon isn’t a very nice man. I watched the Larry King interview of the Season 9 judges and it was clear that they were all a bit gun-shy of Simon. Whenever a quesion was asked they all looked at him first to see if he wanted to answer. Only Kara visibly bridles and she was seen a b*tch for doing so.

    IMHO, Simon sabotaged Idol by giving it 10% in Season 9. It may not have been deliberate but he was visibly bored and it infected the show.The contestant mix was wrong – not enough get-up-and-goers – but the contestants individually were quite interesting.

    Lee wouldn’t have made it to Top 5 in most seasons, though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WVSQA64BLZWH44DKM3U34JT4RU Sylvia Taylor

    Simon wanted someone bad to win during Season 9 as a parting shot to American Idol. Who really has more of a complaint than Siobhan is Alexis Grace. If they did not let Kris Allen cheat with the Arkansas power texting Alexis would have been in the Top Ten as she deserved to be and would have got to go on tour. 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I was excited viewing the season.  I thought for sure Siobhan and Crystal would be the final two.  Casey did a nice job, too.  The tour concert was soooo good!