UPDATETom Bergeron announced Pia Toscano’s Tuesday, April 26 performance on the  DWTS Results show.   She’ll sing while her “friend” Mark Ballas performs a dance routine.

According to TMZ Pia Toscano will sing on Dancing with the Stars next week:

Pia Toscano Will Sing on ‘Dancing’ … For Mark

He’s doing her, and now … she’s doing his show — TMZ has learned, Pia Toscano will be performing on “Dancing with the Stars” next week … and get this, her new BF Mark Ballas will dance to her music.

It’s been in the works for a while — and an hour ago, the deal was sealed.

Pia’s performance signifies a borderline incestuous cross-pollination between the two biggest shows on TV … “American Idol” and “Dancing.”

And if that’s not enough — Pia will be back on “Idol” tomorrow for a special cast-off reunion.

How is FOX and ABC OK with this arrangement? They must believe the cross-polination benefits both. Very strange indeed…

 
  • abl890

    It looks like she has some big people giving her a push. Interesting to see how this plays out.

  • blmetsfan

    She really is being treated like the winner.

  • washpd

    Wow, nice TMZ. So, Pia’s first gig since being booted will be because she’s letting some guy “do” her? Awesome! Girl power!

  • http://www.groupon.com/r/uu4472596 tammyinohio

    I don’t watch DWTS but I’ll make an exception just this once since Pia will be on there.

  • Trina

    WTF? Speechless. I miss the girl and all but this is just all too weird.

  • jpfan

    Pretty interesting news if this is true. I highly doubt Pia is getting the gig because she’s involved with Mark Ballas. He’s had plenty of gfs and she’s the first to ever appear on the show. Although the “relationship” (probably PR generated) adds to the interest in the appearance.

    Again if this IS true, it’s a big change in the way Idol cast offs get treated.

  • tinybuffyfan

    Not impressed at all w/the “he’s doing her” line, but guess that’s what we can expect from such a classy group of peeps as TMZ. I’m w/MJ here, tho – how/why the heck is Fox allowing this?? As far as I can remember there has never been a case like this in the history of the show, when a contestant booted so early was allowed this kind of promotion while the competition was still in full swing.

  • J9BT

    I now see why TMZ recommended that Pia get a lawyer, and I don’t think it’s because of people wearing baby bibs with her name on them.

  • Valentin432

    Not too surprised, I think they mean that she’s going to sing during the performance show with the band and not featured as an artist during the result show.

    The idol cast off reunion is bizarre. I believe they would only do some kind of video package for the result show.

    He’s doing her, and now … she’s doing his show

    Very tatefull TMZ writing there.

  • Reflections On Life

    Look at Pia & Paul go, making the most of their time in Hollywood, securing those critical love connections. It’s not about meeting top producers anymore; it’s about getting a high-profile bf/gf! Sucks for Naima (who’s married) and Thia (who’s too young), LOL. (Just kidding, folks!)

  • lili_anne7

    Well good for Pia if this is true. She is getting the best promotion of any Idol cast off in AI’s history.

  • mmb

    Wow. I have no issue with any opportunity any idol contestant gets post show ( I have never been in the ” all spoils to the winner” camp). BUT, if this DWTS is true that is ridiculous. Its one thing when all of the eliminated finalists do the same round of morning and late night shows (plus the occasional Ellen). Its quite another to have one perform on a plum prime time show while the season progresses

  • claudette

    Pia is very savy. She’s tried out for 5 years and knows the system. You HAVE to keep yourself in the gossip/news to make you a celebrity. She IS the winner. She IS who Jimmy and producers will spend their time on. Why wouldn’t Jimmy expand her fan base by having her sing on DWTS. It’s also good for Idol since they haven’t had a star in 5 years. So, both benefit.

    It’s turning out to be better for Pia for leaving early. She gets to do shows before summer. She’s getting gossip coverage. She gets to work on her album. All before having to go on tour and be out of national attention. I believe Idol has it’s pop star! (and IF Pia and Mark are playing up their relationship, well it isn’t the first and kind of an established Hollywood way to get attention. Other peops do it so why not her)

  • tripp_ncwy

    Its one thing when all of the eliminated finalists do the same round of morning and late night shows (plus the occasional Ellen).

    It’s going to suck even more than usual to be #3 since they tend not get the full slate of appearances as the others.

  • platoken

    The idol castoff reunion is to make up the lack of “Idol Gives Back” where they are usually reunited(all 12 of them).

  • gangreen29

    Good for Pia.

  • girlygirl

    why the heck do we need an Idol cast-off reunion already? These people have been off the show for less than a month. If the producers think the public has forgotten about them already that doesn’t bode well for their potential future careers. They will be reunited for the finale, which is plenty soon enough.

    As for Pia singing on DWTS, well good for her, but unless she records and releases whatever it is she sings, it means little for her career in the long run. It’s a good short-term move, especially in terms of publicity, but I don’t know what it does for her long-term

  • girlygirl

    platoken

    I don’t thinkthe castoffs are reunited for IGB.

  • gangreen29

    why the heck do we need a special “Idol Cast-Off Episode”?

    Where did they say anything about a special idol cast-off episode? All I see is a mention of a cast off reunion on the show, which for all we know means they will all be sitting in the audience and Ryan will say hi to them..

  • girlygirl

    oh and to the people who think being in all the gossip columns means Pia will be a successful pop artist — is anyone buying Kim Kardashian’s music? did anyone buy Paris Hilton’s music?

    Pia will have to earn her way by releasing music people want to listen to and buy. No one is going to buy her music simply because she’s on TMZ or because of who she is dating.

  • gangreen29

    did anyone buy Paris Hilton’s music?

    Yes actually.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_(Paris_Hilton_album)

  • windmills

    Valentin432: Not too surprised, I think they mean that she’s going to sing during the performance show with the band and not featured as an artist during the result show.

    ITA with your interpretation that Pia’ll be singing during the performance show. But I AM surprised in that it was just last season that AI and DWTS were in competition for ratings. Before Jennifer Hudson I don’t think anybody from AI had ever performed on DWTS on a results show and I always figured that was because Idol didn’t want anybody managed by 19 to help DWTS ratings and DWTS didn’t want to namecheck AI on its show to help its competition.

    Maybe now that X Factor’s AI’s main competition they’ve decided a more cooperative arrangement would be to their mutual benefit especially with the publicity bonanza they get with Pia and Mark. I wonder if this means we’ll see Kelly and/or anybody else from AI who releases an album this fall performing on DWTS to help their ratings when they’re up against X Factor.

    girlygirl: ITA this won’t make anybody buy Pia’s music but this performance opportunity is helping to keep her name out there during these weeks where she’s not performing on AI which helps people not to forget her and keeps her fans engaged. In the short run I think it helps but obviously Pia’s going to need her own music that people like.

  • GreenHippo

    At least Pia can sing unlike those DTWS singers, who way to often butcher the songs they are attempting to sing.
    I guess that’s why classical week on DWTS was so well recieved finally the singing (using guest singers) was brilliant.
    Possibly Pia’s performance will be along these lines. Anyone know what the theme on DWTS will be next week?

  • girlygirl

    gangreen29

    Sorry, I misread what MJ wrote. But my point stands — in my opinion, there’s no reason for an Idol cast-off reunion so soon after these people left the show.

  • eyin

    oh and to the people who think being in all the gossip columns means Pia will be a successful pop artist — is anyone buying Kim Kardashian’s music? did anyone buy Paris Hilton’s music?

    Kim and Paris aren’t singers, so nobody expects people to buy their music. Pia is trying to establish a career as a singer, not some fake reality TV star.

    Regarding DWTS, I think the two shows kinda get along better now that they don’t air against each other. But as mentioned above, I believe that Pia won’t be a featured guest. Right, it’s probably just one song, performing with the band just for Mark’s number. And I betcha they won’t even introduce her, they’ll just thank her after the number is done.

  • halo9125

    Dumb question- and here’s the weak link in the story- what if Mark is eliminated this week?

    I have to say though, I am happy for her- somebody really is working overtime to keep her in the public eye- has this been done before? Thinking not…

  • Miss Blue

    He’s doing her, and now … she’s doing his show

    How incredibly disgusting. Insulting, degrading, and as far as “journalism” is concerned, total trash.

  • girlygirl

    gangreen29

    ok, well no one in the US bought it. And she was in the gossip columns pretty much every day when that album got released.

  • girlygirl

    TMZ has never been known for its tasteful journalism, but even for them, that’s pretty bad.

  • gangreen29

    Maybe now that X Factor’s AI’s main competition they’ve decided a more cooperative arrangement would be to their mutual benefit especially with the publicity bonanza they get with Pia and Mark. I wonder if this means we’ll see Kelly and/or anybody else from AI who releases an album this fall performing on DWTS to help their ratings when they’re up against X Factor.

    This is an interesting thought. Now I’m imagining some devious backstage meetings between the idol and dwts producers to plot the downfall of x factor lol.

  • mmb

    It is waaayyy premature to declare Pia the biggest idol pop star in five years, lol. She hasn’t done anything yet! In order to be the biggest star in five years she will need to 1) Have more top ten pop hits and sell more downloads than jordin sparks, 2) sell more albums than David cook, 3) be nominated for a Grammy, have better reviews, and more media coverage than Adam ( including specials devoted solely to the artist like unplugged, ETHS and Behind the Music), not to mention international chart success and certifications, 4) a successful headlining tour like cook and Adam, or opening for a huge big name pop act ( like jordin with Britney. Maybe Pia will outsell, out award, out tour and out media- darling them all. I’m dubious. But time will tell. I hope she does great

  • gangreen29

    ok, well no one in the US bought it.

    197,000 is more than Lee or Crystal has sold, and that was without any radio play. Obviously a career can’t be sustained by gossip buzz alone, but it can only help.

  • platoken

    platoken

    I don’t thinkthe castoffs are reunited for IGB.

    They were last year-all of the top 12 sang one of the group songs together. And I remember in Season 7 they were all together again. I remember Amanda Overmyer(with other people) taking phone calls on stage.

  • halo9125

    Another random thought- I wonder if some sort of DWTS/Idol connection is the REAL reason Idol was moved to Wednesday (and have I mentioned lately that I HATE that?)

  • Valentin432

    There won’t be IGB this year, the producers said that it was only every other year.

    I don’t think the cast off reunion is a big deal.

    I hope for Pia that it will be more than just for Mark’s number and she will be there for the whole show.

  • Trina

    If she’s getting these kind of opportunities at this stage of things can you imagine the promo she’ll get when she has music out? Isn’t she getting endorsement offers too? And there’s nothing wrong with that. Someone that didn’t win getting huge promo? Yeah shocker..

    Hey with this new change, when James is booted can he sit in the audience and cheer Chris on?lol

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    yeah, that line was…odd even for tmz
    But pia YOU GO GIRL!! WORK THOSE CONNECTIONS!!!! :P

  • webster

    why the heck do we need an Idol cast-off reunion already?

    Seriously. How can we miss them if they won’t go away?

  • bean99

    Interesting. Good for Pia. I guess I’ll have to tape the show.

  • girlygirl

    gangreen29

    As usual, you and I disagree. Paris Hilton’s album is considered a very expensive flop in the US. Yes, gossip can be helpful, but it can also be harmful. It’s easy to become overexposed and then people get sick and tired of hearing about you. Especially if you haven’t put any product (music, movies, etc) out there.

    ETA — I should say I have no problem with Pia singing on DWTS — it’s a nice opportunity for her. But I am already sick and tired of hearing about not only her relationship but Paul’s and Nicki’s, as well.

  • Buffynut

    WUT??????!!!!! Pia just won’t go away, ever, will she?!

  • sr4mjc

    At least Pia has more singing talent than Paris :)

  • leome

    Good for her. It will be good to listen to her.

  • Kitwana

    Maybe Idol will give Pia one of the Thursday performance slots to debut her new single. It could give her the sales to make the Hot 100 in her first week. That would be huge. After that, maybe she can come back to mentor. Give me a break! Pia on DWTS is ridiculous.

  • GreenHippo

    Just found out it’s ‘guilty pleasure week’ at DWTS next week, is that why Pia is going to sing. She is someone’s guilty pleasure?
    Or one of her covers was considered a guilty pleasure… Hmmm

  • phil25

    Happy for Pia. She was very popular outside the Idol bubble, but not so much inside it, so it’s good to see her working the connections early because casual fans can be fickle.

  • windmills

    gangreen29: This is an interesting thought. Now I’m imagining some devious backstage meetings between the idol and dwts producers to plot the downfall of x factor lol.

    Life on the knoll means we can imagine lots of unholy alliances!

    girlygirl: It’s easy to become overexposed and then people get sick and tired of hearing about you. Especially if you haven’t put any product (music, movies, etc) out there.

    Yes but in Pia’s case I think the general public believes she’s legitimately talented and not famous for being willing to expose herself a la Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian.

    girlygirl: But I am already sick and tired of hearing about not only her relationship but Paul’s and Nicki’s, as well.

    I think Paul’s being very savvy about this and knows this is a way to keep his name out there (IMO he and Nikki Reed both have their eyes wide open about that aspect for each of them).

    I don’t know about Pia since she’s downplayed relationship rumors and it doesn’t seem like she’s behind the TMZ leaks (but anything’s possible). She’s said she respects how Carrie’s maintained her private life so if that’s the approach she favors then I don’t think she’ll be encouraging the gossip blogs with leaks, showmances, and photo ops. But you also need to have people around you who respect your stance (which I don’t think Pia has right now) and the person you’re in a relationship with has to respect your stance too (which doesn’t always happen and sometimes it takes a little while to figure it out).

    Too, if there’s interest and the gossip blogs think they can get hits off stories about you, you can’t always control how much coverage you get. The shock boot gave Pia major pop culture status and the media was all over that, including the gossip blogs. They’re running the stories because they think it’ll get them hits.

    If it turns out Pia’s really a PR savvy gal who’s working it from all angles to keep her name out there before her record deal’s announced and while she’s recording her album that means she’s a little more interesting than I’d originally given her credit for ;) At the end of the day it’s like you said, it won’t sell her albums unless people are into her music. But in the pop world pop culture buzz can help sales if you’ve already got the music.

  • TheOther

    Her early elimination probably has worked to Pia’s advantage. I don’t think she would have gotten these opportunities and buzz if she had left later in the competition.

  • platoken

    Hmm, note to other contestants-date somebody who has connections! Aka a celebrity.

  • mmb

    Its true. They just announced it on dwts. She will perform tuesday night. And mark will dance. They didn’t announce another musical artist

  • luci

    Lol Tom just confirmed on dwts just now. I chuckled when he said close friend. This story is beyond odd.

  • halo9125

    Oh crap, I missed when he announced it lol. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when this deal was hatched.

  • windmills

    mmb: Its true. They just announced it on dwts. She will perform tuesday night. And mark will dance. They didn’t announce another musical artist

    Pia gets to perform Tuesday night for the results? Wow, interesting. I thought it’d be a Monday performance backing up Mark with a quick acknowledgment if any.

    Since she’s getting the opportunity I hope Pia takes advantage with a GREAT performance.

  • Willis

    I think this newfound friendliness between shows has everything do due with Idol no longer being in direct competition with each other. Chris Jericho mentioned that previously the shows were instructed not to interact with each other. Now it feels like a cross promotion.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Mark Ballas is in the audience during AI this week. Kind of impressive how easily publicists, TMZ and “idol insiders” can create stories and put you in the spotlight. The machine is working for Pia right now.

  • Buffynut

    phil25 says:
    04/19/2011 at 9:25 pm
    Happy for Pia. She was very popular outside the Idol bubble, but not so much inside it, so it’s good to see her working the connections early because casual fans can be fickle.

    She could not have been that popular because she got voted off 9th!

  • Trina

    You mean the competition was so bad at one time they couldn’t even interact? Holy cow. Times are a changin’. Hearing Tom refer to “our friends at Fox” is such a WTF. I can’t even!

  • Nina1

    Well, Idol and DWTS are no longer opposite each other, so what the heck…and wait, isn’t the Voice on Tuesdays?????

    These new sudden, intense romances are sumpthin; I’m not believing them a whole lot. Mark dancing is just OTT corny.

    Pia should sing with Charice’s voice. That girl is the diva crown princess. What a voice! (And she emotes, too!)

  • phil25

    She could not have been that popular because she got voted off 9th!

    From my experience, she was very popular outside the idol bubble, and by that I meant people that didn’t vote. Obviously that can’t be scientifically proven but the response to her elimination was at least some proof.

    That’s why I said she needs to take advantage of her fan base early because her fans are more casual fans of the show that might forget about her in a few months.

  • CindyM

    It seems like an advantage now to get voted off earlier. More time to get promo, get music out and get some promo spots before you’re faced with the competition from the idol winner and runner up.

  • MFM

    Come on MJ. You didnt have to put that freaks tweet to Pia on here. http://twitter.com/MarneMarks Pia is winning and the show isnt even over yet

  • bean99

    I’m confused. Is Pia on Monday’s performance show or the result show? Tom made it a bit confusing.

  • Inconnu

    It’s a different way of doing things this year. There are still promoting the fallen idols like they did for C Medina, Tim Halperin (he released a couple I-Tunes), Paul has already made a new deal for his music, and now Pia… (I don’t think she’s deciding all this – she’s still under contract. She’s just managed differently). I find this all interesting and probably a much-better approach towards success, post-idol.

  • gangreen29

    It seems like an advantage now to get voted off earlier. More time to get promo, get music out and get some promo spots before you’re faced with the competition from the idol winner and runner up.

    But this would presume everyone voted off gets this treatment, everyone but Pia is getting pretty standard voted off idol treatment.

  • Nina1

    Seriously. How can we miss them if they won’t go away?

    I think they may be oversaturating Pia. ETA: Well, for me, anyway.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I’m confused. Is Pia on Monday’s performance show or the result show? Tom made it a bit confusing.

    I re-listened to what he said. Pia will perform during the results show, while Mark performs.

  • readon

    It’s a different way of doing things this year. There are still promoting the fallen idols like they did for C Medina, Tim Halperin (he released a couple I-Tunes), Paul is talking about his band openly in interviews and has already made a new deal for his music, and now Pia… I find this all interesting and probably a much-better approach towards success, post-idol.

    It is differerent. It seems to reinforce the idea that winning AI is not important. AI is a platform for exposure. If that is the meme that that want to express then go Pia and Grand Magnolias.

    As for the rest of you that are still in the competition, Good luck and we hope that America doesn’t lose interest in the next few weeks.

  • Inconnu

    That’s true. American Idol is still a competition. Winning has to matter.

  • http://airincaol.com coco

    who is charice? was she in the top 13? I do not recall her.

  • blmetsfan

    This is so strange. I bet they wish she had a single out right now, given all this promotion. I don’t blame her @ all, though. Milk it!

  • TheOther

    I think in the long run, Pia will get more mileage from leaving the show early, than if she had actually won or been the Top 3, more so if the winner struggles.

  • halo9125

    I re-listened to what he said. Pia will perform during the results show, while Mark performs.

    Uh oh- I have to update Facebook again, lol.

  • Tess

    If Pia is able to ride all this gossip driven hoopla to a career without the insidious undertones of “sleeping” her way to the top creeping in…then more power to her. Personally I don’t think a reputable PR person would be using this kind of tactic to get her name in front of people…but then I know very little about the innerworkings of Hollywood marketing.

    Personally, I don’t see much in Pia…her style and talent don’t seem that unique to me. I know nothing about her as a person but from the persona she showed on Idol she wouldn’t be at the top of my “I’d like to meet them” list.

    I don’t have a clue what UMG is trying to achieve with throwing all these people into the barrell while the season is still playing…I would think that measuring “interest” during the tour would be a better way of figuring out who has the goods to “move” people instead of relying on on-line chatter to value the contestants….but I don’t wear the blue serge suit and smoke the oversized cigars of the music moguls. What the hell do I know.

  • Nina1

    Can we do a poll? I’ll bet they throw together debut a single on Tuesday and by Thursday it will be her “new hit single” (available on Itunes)!

    (Paul must feel like he got the bum’s rush.)

  • halo9125

    It seems to reinforce the idea that winning AI is not important. AI is a platform for exposure. If that is the meme that that want to express then go Pia and Grand Magnolias.

    There’s a huge difference between the Grand Magnolias and Pia- just take a look at the band’s website :
    http://thegrandmagnolias.com/

    Seems to me that Paul never really needed Idol – he has quite the engaging personality, that alone will get him far.

  • TheOther

    It is differerent. It seems to reinforce the idea that winning AI is not important. AI is a platform for exposure. If that is the meme that that want to express then go Pia and Grand Magnolias.

    But I don’t think winning has the same meaning anymore especially in the last few years when the winners have really struggled with album sales. I don’t think it’s that unrealistic to assume that Pia will probably outsell Lee Dewyze.

  • songsungblue

    From my experience, she was very popular outside the idol bubble, and by that I meant people that didn’t vote. Obviously that can’t be scientifically proven but the response to her elimination was at least some proof.

    Yeah, I don’t know. I’ve seen more and more “we’re sick of this girl” feedback the longer it goes on. I saw a bunch of “yikes, another stand there and sing emotionlessly ballad.” She was no Daughtry, in other words. I think people were shocked because A – she’s so pretty, and B – they were told to be shocked. I mean, I hope she does well, she’s a hometown girl – but she’s not being asked to headline at Yankee Stadium. She’s being used to promote a cheesy, media-driven showmance, IMO. There’s something weirdly distasteful about it, but hey – that’s just my reading. ;)

    I’m with girlygirl. She’s going to have to release a decent single / album in order to ride this thing further. Plus, in my opinion, she has kind of a bland personality and she doesn’t come off as particularly bright and witty [I'm not saying she isn't totally sweet and nice.] She’s not very interesting other than her looks and her voice, and in my opinion, that’s going to hurt her.

    ETA: In my judgement, she isn’t being treated as a winner. She’s being treated as another avenue for publicity, and she appears willing to play the game, so it’s win / win for TPTB. I don’t think for one single minute Nigel was concerned with her leaving. If he knew the vote totals, they would have pushed her more if they were worried. She was set up to leave this way, whether it was ninth place or fourth place. She was always going to be the ‘shock boot.’

  • lla2827

    Wow–this is totally knoll worthy stuff. It seems so crazy that a 9th place finisher is getting all this attention–unless there is more than meets the eye.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Pia was an Interscope plant from the get-go. They figured she would be a perfect candidate for AI and it would be a great way to jump start her recording career. Naturally, they thought she would do at least a top 3/4 or better finish–looks and big voice. When that didn’t happen–they decided to keep her name in the press as much as possible.

    No way to know if the romance between Mark and Pia is for real or just beneficial PR for all involved–but will be fun to see how long it lasts. I noticed that when the Post broke the story last week of how Pia dumped her boyfriend for Mark and life in the fast lane–it was TMZ who defended Pia and said they had been broken up before she did the show. I thought it odd how TMZ came to her defense when it seemed like a story they would love to run with as well. Then I remember the bond between AI and TMZ.

    Or, perhaps this is a way that both shows think they can screw with The Voice premier. Though, I don’t think Pia singing on DWTS will stop folks from watching The Voice if that intend to do so.

    Whatever the case–it does seem a bit unfair to the other contestants if they don’t get the same opportunites when their 15 minutes is up on Idol

  • Mel1

    The winners do get a huge sum of money that the finalists don’t get, and they make more money for the summer tour. They also get huge promotion opportunities overseas which the finalists don’t get. Can you imagine if 16-year old Lauren or 17-year old Scotty win? They get to tour in Asia, and other great places (Bahamas, etc.).

    Problem is, I can’t see Lauren or Scotty closing the AI tour.

    Winning does mean something.

  • bmms

    but she’s not being asked to headline at Yankee Stadium

    No, not yet! Pia sang at Mets Stadium a few years ago. Thats a FACT Jack. :-D

  • yaddabing

    yessss pia! get that promo.

    eh, since they’re not competing for the same audience anymore, all of the mingling between dwts and ai contestants may just be to raise the profile for both of the shows.

    I think it’s kind of good that she’s getting all of this buzz/press. She’s gotten more attention since she left than the entire last season. They just need to know when to pull the reigns in until after the finale.

  • jlc

    I wasn’t shocked that Pia was booted—I was shocked that she was booted BEFORE JACOB!! I’m still in shock that he’s STILL THERE. Who the hell is voting for that misguided, wannabe singer?? I don’t even understand how he made top 25! Is he sleeping with Nigel or what?

    (And I didn’t like Paul and I don’t like Stefano…but I understand (sort of) why they were/are still there. But Jacob? Come on! WTH??)

  • dishwalla

    She’s being used to promote a cheesy, media-driven showmance, IMO. There’s something weirdly distasteful about it, but hey –

    But AI is also a cheesy, media driven show.

    She’s not very interesting other than her looks and her voice, and in my opinion, that’s going to hurt her.

    A lot of people have succeded with far less than that, so who knows? I remember all the negativity about Jennifer Hudson when she was on the show.

    In my judgement, she isn’t being treated as a winner.

    That maybe actually be a good thing, considering the treatment that a winner like Lee Dewyze has gotten.

  • stingray11214

    This is a very different world. I get the feeling that Iovine and the Universal brass politely told Nigel and the FOX brass how the real world operated. Remember, Idol went to Universal with hat in hand. Guarandamtee you that contract between 19E and Universal is tilted in Universal’s favor. I do agree that Iovine ordered Nigel to put Pia on the show, and Universal is flexing it’s muscles with regard to Pia. This appearance does nothing to help the Idol brand, but it does strengthen Iovine’s and Pia’s hand.

  • jpfan

    Wow, so it’s true. Very different from how things used to happen. In the past, runners up were at a serious disadvantage in terms of promo compared to the winner but that’s not so anymore. They don’t even wait until the season is over to annoint the “real” winner. ;)

  • CindyM

    Seems to me that Paul never really needed Idol – he has quite the engaging personality, that alone will get him far.

    Naah, if he didn’t feel his band needed the exposure of him on American Idol he wouldn’t have done it. It’s not like the Grand Magnolias were on everyone’s radar before if they are now.

  • Elliegrll

    From my experience, she was very popular outside the idol bubble, and by that I meant people that didn’t vote. Obviously that can’t be scientifically proven but the response to her elimination was at least some proof.

    I don’t think she was more popular than anyone else who is voted off of idol before the top five or six. For the most part, people tend to forget these people soon after they are gone.

    I think what she has going for her is that she is pretty and a good singer, so Interscope thinks that they can make money off of her.

  • CindyM

    I wasn’t shocked that Pia was booted—I was shocked that she was booted BEFORE JACOB!! I’m still in shock that he’s STILL THERE. Who the hell is voting for that misguided, wannabe singer?? I don’t even understand how he made top 25! Is he sleeping with Nigel or what?

    I love Jacob’s voice, sometimes I think he goes over the top a bit too much, but I like him. I think the “sleeping with Nigel” comment is demeaning.

  • songsungblue

    Heh. Good point, AI is a cheesy show. But I said a showmance. I mean, even if this relationship is real, it seems odd to sing while your boyfriend is performing like that. It’s like a Saturday Night live sketch. Hey, if this thing with Mark doesn’t work out – maybe she could be the next Bachelorette too! LOL.

    Lee fell into the crack left when Simon abdicated. I don’t think they’ll treat this year’s winner that way. Just a hunch.

  • Inconnu

    Personally I don’t get too worked up if it seems unfair to the winner if others are successful as well. I figure the winner and all have a longer time on the show and more opportunities to make their marks – and they get money and promotion behind them like no others do.

  • Nina1

    Hey, if this thing with Mark doesn’t work out – maybe she could be the next Bachelorette too!

    Bite your tongue.

    I screwed up; I thought Pia was on Idol next week. Think she could promote a song tomorrow? I wouldn’t be surprised, but that would be almost as tacky as her new boyfriend tripping the light fantastic across a dance floor while she trills a romantic ballad. Ew. She isn’t supposed to have a contract, but…she’s been coy.

  • TheOther

    They also get huge promotion opportunities overseas which the finalists don’t get.

    But there are strings attached. The winner gets more promotion, but there is also much higher expectations to sell. I remember how Kris Allen got beat up for his debut, even though that was a good number for any new comer. But because he was the winner of AI, and got that huge platform, he was constantly being compared to the previous winners. And I remember Billboard slamming him for that. I can only imagine it must have been even worse for Lee Dewyze.

  • Mel1

    There are a lot of good bands (better than Paul’s) who are popular in their locality, but never make it big. Yeah, I think Paul needed AI exposure.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Who isn’t Idol in bed with these days? First TMZ and now DWTS.

  • gangreen29

    I just don’t understand how Pia is getting unfair advantages over the eventual winner when we don’t even have a winner yet. Maybe Universal will make a massive push of this year’s winner? Something we haven’t seen in awhile. The rules have changed, we can’t just do straight up comparisons to the Sony years anymore.

  • songsungblue

    Not to peel off the tin foil hat or anything, but how could Pia have been a plant? She auditioned for the show FIVE times without making it. Jimmy Iovine thought she was going to save the music industry?

    I’m going with “make a quick buck off of her.”

    I totally think Paul needed AI. He’s been very honest about it, too. But I have a certain amount of faith that his ability is going to take him somewhere. I don’t know about superstar, but scoring even an independent movie is a big deal. He’s definitely headed in the right direction.

  • Tony

    Cast off reunion???? LMAO

    What in the hell. This is simply a way to get Pia back on the show before the finale.

  • dishwalla

    I don’t think scoring such a high profile on DWTS was just a coincidence – or really had that much to even do with Mark Ballas. Because neither are really well known enough for the general public to make that connection.

    I do think this is Interscope positioning Pia towards a solo career. Jimmy Iovine really seems to like her – and probably feels she’s a good enough singer and is attractive enough to launch a career. As I said, others with far less than that have managed to sell records. And Pia can sing.

  • bmms

    I don’t think they’ll treat this year’s winner that way

    That’s because Lee is the worst Idol winner to date!

  • bmms

    It’s too early for an AI castoff reunion.

    Hahahahahahahaha…

  • bmms

    The rules have changed, we can’t just do straight up comparisons to the Sony years anymore.

    Exactly!

  • SuperNut

    So, I see Mark Ballas got his latest slampiece to perform on the show that he happens to be on. Maybe that’s why they’re having this fake relationship in the first place and they some how got Chris Jericho to play along.

  • Elliegrll

    It’s too early for an AI castoff reunion.

    The rules have changed, we can’t just do straight up comparisons to the Sony years anymore.

    I agree with the first statement, but I think these two statements go together. The rules haven’t changed, it’s more like Jimmy Iovine is being upfront about the fact that he is going to sign or at least release music from multiple people, and I think that’s one of the reasons why we are getting this reunion. Music that’s coming from people who have been off the air for several weeks isn’t going to sell very well. 19 has always signed more than one person, but they’ve still kept up the pretense that the winner is the only one who will get the chance to realize their dreams, and that pretense has meant a lot in terms of the show, even though most viewers know it’s not true, but Jimmy has done away with all of that.

  • cfletch

    I don’t care if she’s singing for Saturday cartoons. It makes no difference to me. I didn’t like her on the show and could care less about her post-Idol career.

    She isn’t a winner, she came in 9th place. However, that’s 9th place out of hundreds of thousands who auditioned. I just don’t think she’s all that.

  • claudette

    How do we know the winner gets a huge contract with Interscope? Does anyone know the rewards? After the past few seasons plus the state of music I would think it’s not so great besides a guaranteed album.

    I think even Sony spent more on Adam and Crystal. Pia is the star of the season and I expect more will be spent on her. They will spend more time developing the country teens in Nashville I bet. I expect Paul will get out a quick album but that’s it unless an unexpected winner. But I can’t imagine Jimmy promising sooo much to an unknown.

  • lla2827

    Not to peel off the tin foil hat or anything, but how could Pia have been a plant? She auditioned for the show FIVE times without making it. Jimmy Iovine thought she was going to save the music industry?

    Good point. But, it could be possible that she came to the attention of Interscope within the last year or so. Maybe she told them of her past idol auditions and they told her 5th time will be the charm–LOL

  • glamertitis

    Who cares – She’s an over rated 9th place contestant getting her 15 minutes of fame.

  • Elek

    It’s also good for Idol since they haven’t had a star in 5 years.

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    Maybe Idol will give Pia one of the Thursday performance slots to debut her new single. It could give her the sales to make the Hot 100 in her first week. That would be huge. After that, maybe she can come back to mentor.

    Jeez, sounds more like a nightmare!

    That’s why I said she needs to take advantage of her fan base early because her fans are more casual fans of the show that might forget about her in a few months.

    Absolutely! And most of them cannot even remember her name now.

    Pia is the star of the season and I expect more will be spent on her.

    Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis!

    Not to peel off the tin foil hat or anything, but how could Pia have been a plant? She auditioned for the show FIVE times without making it. Jimmy Iovine thought she was going to save the music industry?

    You nailed it! It so happened that Jimmy Iovine is a fan, just like the others who think that she would become a star.

  • songsungblue

    Wait, so Jimmy Iovine planted her on her sixth Idol audition, and engineered her leaving so he could turn around and make her a stah? Wow. I have new respect for Iovine because that’s incredible pre-planning on his part. LOL

  • girlygirl

    Claudette

    You keep saying she’s the “star” of the season, but in my opinion it’s a weak season if the 9th place finisher ends up being the so-called “star”. Especially since people claim this season has the most talent top to bottom of the finalists (something I don’t necessarily agree with, but the claim was definitely put out in the media) And I don’t see people outside the Idol bubble exactly clamoring to get music from her. Even most of this recent publicity is about her personal life, not her actual music career.

    Maybe she’ll end up being really successful. It’s a possibility. But to date, there’s nothing to support the idea that she’s a “star”.

    ETA – Didn’t I see something recently where Pia said she’s love to compete on DWTS?

  • nkdbacks1

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    Haha okay.

  • Dlynne

    I am not surprised at all that she is singing on DWTS before the season of Idol is over. UMG is going to do what’s best for them and anyone they are interested in and Idol will do the same whether or not it’s in the best interest of the other. I’m beginning to think the winner of this season will not be the most commercially successful.

    It will definitely be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks.

  • Dlynne

    ETA – Didn’t I see something recently where Pia said she’s love to compete on DWTS?

    Yes, she did say that. I believe she said she is a dancer and would love to be a contestant on the show.

  • springboard

    Although promoting a ninth place finisher can undermine the premise that the show is a competition and the further you go the greater the reward, it is also good publicity for it.

    We have to assume that UMG has a good deal with 19. After years of watching Sony rake up $ with Idol, X Factor, and the Got Talent shows, it’s not a surprise that they want to make the most of their partnership with Idol.
    It is also obviously in no one interest to undermine the show, otherwise the gold stream is going to dry up.

    It will be interesting to see how the higher finishers and the winner will be treated, who becomes the star of the season, if any, and the long term repercussions on the franchise.

  • dishwalla

    Just like how the judge’s critiques really does not play a huge factor in the vote – audiences are going to vote for whoever they like. The same applies to the record label. They are going to sign whoever they like – regardless if someone finished in 9th place or 3rd place. Only the winner is guaranteed a record contract. And as shown in the last few seasons, winning isn’t all it has been cracked up to be.

  • sr4mjc

    Not to peel off the tin foil hat or anything, but how could Pia have been a plant? She auditioned for the show FIVE times without making it. Jimmy Iovine thought she was going to save the music industry?

    It’s possible that Interscope thinks they can do something with her (whether they knew of her before or not), where the Idol producers didn’t enough to let her through in previous years. I don’t think it’s knollish though.

    Just because she was voted off 9th place by the Idol voting population doesn’t mean she has no audience. It just might not be the Idol voting audience. ;) They are keeping her in the press, I assume an EP will follow the finale or release during the tour. It’s a new ballgame this year folks.

  • jpfan

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    Okay, that is funny. However the TMZ post and some of the comments here are quite disgusting about Pia being a piece of meat that is getting slammed or done. Puke.

    Obviously, the producers of DWTS think Pia will be a plus for the show. I think Pia’s problem is that she’s a female getting all this attention. If she were a guy, some folks would be posting that she’s a legend, superstar etc. and this is just proof of that. ;)

  • springboard

    Obviously, the producers of DWTS think Pia will be a plus for the show. I think Pia’s problem is that she’s a female getting all this attention. If she were a guy, some folks would be posting that she’s a legend, superstar etc. and this is just proof of that.

    The opinion would be just as divided if she were a guy. The disagreement is about both her talent and the fact that a ninth place finisher receives so much promotion. The fact that she is female has very little to do with it.

  • jpfan

    The disagreement is about both her talent and the fact that a ninth place finisher receives so much promotion. The fact that she is female has very little to do with it.

    That part I get except for certain crude comments about her that are all about being a female.

  • bean99

    I think Pia is being treated differently because there was such a media hoopla when she was cut from the show. I don’t believe that her having a date with Mark will or should be taken as what TMZ said. This is a great way to get her out before a different audience so why not do it? Funny that Fox will allow it but I guess they think success for any of their idols is success for the show. I’m happy because for me the show isn’t as good since she left because whether you like her style or not, she was one of if not the best singer there and should have had a shot to win.

  • springboard

    That part I get except for certain crude comments about her that are all about being a female.

    Yes, they are crude comments, but I have seen many crude comments about male contestants in the past. They are also triggered by what’s perceived as her taking advantage of her relationship with Mark, or being in a relationship for promotional purposes. Whether it is the case or not, any idol in this situation would be verbally assaulted on a site like TMZ.

  • Elliegrll

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    Carrie has sold 4 million albums outside of the US. She may not get the credit for it, and she wasn’t given the title of International superstar for not even coming close to that mark, but the figure obviously shows that she is known outside of the country.

  • wfish8888

    JUST IN: pia, a 9th place finnisher outsells the winner LEE DEWYze

  • Elliegrll

    Right now, Pia is just a former reality show contestant. With the backing of Interscope and the right songs, she might become a star, but calling her one now is no different than previous claims that other alums who were cast out early would be the stars of their seasons. It was said that Michael Johns, Jason Castro, Carly Smithson, Siobhan Magnus, Amanda Overmyer, Lilly Scott, and plenty more would outsell the eventual winners of their seasons, or be more successful, but most people don’t even remember these people’s names.

    I think what’s happened with Jason Castro is a perfect example of how fleeting idol fame is. He was a heck of a lot more popular than Pia, but that didn’t mean much when it came to selling his music. American Idol is a show, and Jason, Pia and the others will all receive loud ovations when they come back to the show, but whether or not they become a star or successful singers has little to do with just appearing on the show.

  • luci

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to give the spot to a past idol contestant (cook) that has something to promote. Just saying……

  • halo9125

    But, it could be possible that she came to the attention of Interscope within the last year or so. Maybe she told them of her past idol auditions and they told her 5th time will be the charm–LOL

    Pia didn’t even want to try out again- but her father was the one who encouraged her, doing so by reminding her that there was a new panel of judges. He took a day off from work for the NJ auditions and drove her out there- and the rest, I suppose, is history?

  • Tess

    However the TMZ post and some of the comments here are quite disgusting about Pia being a piece of meat that is getting slammed or done. Puke.

    If someone chooses to associated with a man who has a well deserved reputation as a lothario they open themselves up for lots of unpleasant “gossip” comments. A season 7 contestant took all kinds of hits for having a relationship with a woman who had a reputation. True or not it is part of the Hollywood scene. And if you play the game you suffer the consequences.

  • Mary102

    And if that’s not enough — Pia will be back on “Idol” tomorrow for a special cast-off reunion.

    Special castoff reunion?! What? Like, bring back people who got kicked off this year again? I’m sorry, but I’m beginning to think this year is becoming Much Ado About Nothing. I can honestly hardly remember ANYONE who got kicked off already, nor do I really care about them anymore. Pia is sorta borderline in that group. I didn’t miss her at all last week, for instance.

    I feel like, especially with the judges over-hyping and praising everyone, I’m even less impressed with this year than I have been in past years. Sigh, Idol, you are getting tiring this year, and after such a promising beginning to the season :-(

  • Mary102

    I believe she said she is a dancer and would love to be a contestant on the show.

    Uh, why did she never show this on the show then?

  • Kirkee

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    Carrie has sold 4 million albums so it’s hard to argue against her popularity anywhere. But Lambert is very big overseas and anyone who denies it just isn’t aware. Maybe Cook is too I don’t follow his stats. But Allen? That’s where you get me.

    As for Pia. Good for her. Strike while the iron is hot. This season is certainly bringing the lulz.

  • monleo1705

    Wow… I see Pia is still making headlines… Lol!

  • tinawina

    Well at least she inspires a whole lot of chatter. Apparently there is something more to Pia after all. Heh.

    Adam Lambert, David Cook and Kris Allen are more famous than Carrie Underwood outside American soil.

    1. I doubt that is true for all of them

    and

    2. Who the hell cares? I don’t think RCA Nashville is going to trade in all of their Carrie-generated cash for Pesos and Euros anytime soon.

  • pattycake

    I just don’t understand how Pia is getting unfair advantages over the eventual winner when we don’t even have a winner yet. Maybe Universal will make a massive push of this year’s winner? Something we haven’t seen in awhile. The rules have changed, we can’t just do straight up comparisons to the Sony years anymore.

    I agree, I think 19/ Interscope will bend over backwards to make sure their talent does well and is more successful then the winners or contestants from all the competing shows (ie X factor and the Voice). They are competing for credibility which could affect the size of a viewing audience.