Phillips Phillips Refuses to Help His Family (Report) (Gossip)

I don’t know what to think about this latest piece of gossip from TMZ. If there is drama going on in the Phillips Phillips  family concerning the auction, TMZ’s account is likely exaggerated.

Phillip Phillips’ family says the singer left them high and dry after winning “American Idol” — refusing to help them out financially — and now, they’ve been forced to sell their cherished family business … Phillips family sources tell TMZ.

The Phillips family-owned Albany Sporting Goods and Pawn — which has been in the family for 24 years — is scheduled to hit the auction block on December 1st … and we’re told, Phillip’s dad hopes to use the profits to cover the family’s mounting debt.

We’re told Phillip’s dad hopes to bring in between $200,000-250,000 during the auction.

We’re told Phillip’s family has reached out multiple times to the singer for financial help since he hit it big, but Phil has blown them off.

According to Phillips family sources, the family’s especially hurt by the singer’s radio silence — since they spent a ton of money on travel expenses so they could see Phillip compete on “Idol.”

We made multiple calls to Phillip Phillips over several days — but our calls were not returned.

If I were TMZ, I  wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Phillip to call back. Unless the report becomes a “thing”– In which case, Phillip would release a statement through his people.

In interviews, Phil’s dad seems sad that fame has taken his son away from Georgia and his family.  Maybe Phil–who is a pretty busy guy these days with a debut album just about to be released– doesn’t return Donnie’s calls as fast as he used to.  But that doesn’t mean the Idol winner has abandoned his family.

As far as the money is concerned–Phillip is hardly rolling in it yet. His music career has barely begun.

Read more at TMZ 

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    Family “sources” :/ I’ll consider this relevant when they can give real names or someone with a name actually speaks up.

  • http://twitter.com/BamadansPad Danny Latham

    Seems there is always a jealous family member who wants to bring their famous member down. TMZ feeds on this crap and stretches the truth big time. We don’t really know what goes on in Phillip’s private life as it pertains to his relationship with his family. From what I see, I wouldn’t think it is in Phillip’s nature to leave his family high and dry after winning Idol. Thus, I would say nothing to see here. 

  • Karen C

    I thought Phillip’s father was selling the pawn shop even before Phillip won Idol.  And I agree, Phillip probably hasn’t made that much money yet. If he hasn’t been in contact with them much, it might be because he was working on the album. Hopefully this is all exagerrated.

  • Anny_nanny

    This is nonsense.
    I remember after the victory wrote that the family refused to his prize money – he should start an independent life. And every adult person solves his problems on his own, I have no problem with it. And they planned to sell a business before, the time to do it – the children are grown.

  • bridgette12

    MJ you made two good points, he’s very busy trying to finish the album and do the crazy amount of media all the Winners normally do. Second, even though his single has gone double platinum, he’s not getting a large percentage of that money. The big bucks are going to come from hopefully a big selling debut album and doing a lot of touring. Don’t know if this story is true or not, but I don’t care either way. It’s his music that matters and the personal stuff should be left between him and his family. 

  • Chris

    I doubt Phillip has $200k+ cash on hand yet. The record label , Idol, all of the traveling, taxes, and I believe he is covering his girlfriend’s expenses too. Scotty may be liquid now with touring, etc but the family is bring unreasonable if they think P2 is rolling in cash this soon.

  • Incipit

    Standard Anonymous TMZ BS.

    The shop was for sale before Phillip even went on Idol. Sign and everything. Only thing changed is the decision to use an Auction form of sale. Phillip signed his old guitars so they would be collectibles at the auction. Had to be there to do that.

    Negates the whole heaping pile of TMZ ordure.

    IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Flying to LA every week for the live Idol shows is expensive.  Also, medical bills ain’t cheap.  I feel sorry for PP’s family.  He may not have much money yet, but at least, he could pick up the phone and call his parents.

  • TheOther

    Nothing but tabloid exaggeration. IMO, the “source” of the story is probably someone who is still reeling from the fact that Phillip won Idol.  And what an “opportune” time for a smear campaign – right before the debut of his CD.

  • tigervixxxen

    Wasn’t Phillip just home for Halloween? I don’t follow his every waking move but bet he saw his parents then. It probably is a good idea to keep distance from the ever growing list of cousins and uncles but parents I’m sure are the exception

  • wkstrack

    In the National Enquirer, the same article that had the Phillip and Hannah “secret engagement” also said that Phillip was the one who told his family to sell his pawnshop. 

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7593591110_b26ba883c6_o.jpg

    This is an old article back from after he won though.

  • girlygirltoo

    This is probably just BS meant to keep Phillip’s name in the news — just like all the other stories Idol plants with TMZ.

    Since Phillip didn’t write “Home”, he is not making much money off that song — nowhere near what Drew Pearson & Greg Holden (the writers) will receive, for example. And based on previous reports about winner contracts, it’s unlikely that PP received the type of advance from Interscope that Idol winners got years ago. Even if he did, a lot of that money goes out the door to pay his manager, his agent, his guitarist(s), taxes etc. 

    I’m not impressed with PP’s family, to be honest. Too many of them seem to be interested in their 15 minutes of fame. Hopefully none of them leaked this story to TMZ.

  • kaylietoo

    All money for his parents to fly to Vegas was from donations in their area – they didn’t pay for it.  The shop was for sale long before P2 was on it, and nobody know how often he calls his family.  TMZ is just a gossip site, and don’t believe everything you read.  In fact, Hannah has even tweeted about things in that past about things said that aren’t true.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    I distrust everything TMZ says. They do a lot of ‘filling in the blanks’ taking one word (even if that word came from themselves) and build a sentence around it.

    I thought the family biz was in trouble before Phillip went on Idol and they had plans to sell it. That he hasn’t been handing over his paycheck to Mom and Pop isn’t any scandal. Has he even received any money yet other than maybe a weekly stipend for the show and tour?

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     LAST NIGHT HIS SISTERS POSTED PICTURES WITH HIM AND HIS MOTHER IN A FAMILY REUNION ALL THEY LOOK REALLY HAPPY, AND HE WENT TO HIS OLD SCHOOL PEP RALLY TO SUPPORT MISSION CHANGE HIS SISTER’S FUNDATION , HE GIVE UP HIS PLATINUM PLAQUE TO AN AUCTION FOR CANCER FIGHT, AND HE IS GONNA DO A CONCERT WITH THE P22 CHORUS FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE SANDY TRAGEDY (BTW SEARH AN DONATE)
    LIKE HIS SONG SAYS:”Tell me a story, long and true. We aren’t what we say, we are what we do. “

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    Ridiculous!!! 

  • chillj

    Cheese, the kid has been famous for barely six months.  Family, get over it; chill TMZ.  Talk about people with better resources to fight back.

  • tripp_ncwy

    You are forgetting about his idol winnings from the show.  That money hasn’t changed even though the album advances & AI touring money has lessened since UMG came into the picture. I am not says P2 is a rolling in dough but he has a nice next egg just from AI.

  • steph6449

    Not really a P2 fan but give him a pass on this. 

    If the family business has not been profitable, just putting in a bunch of his AI cash (assuming he has some to give) may not do anything to turn it around except throw good money after bad.

  • Incipit

    IMO, the “source” of the story is ….

    IMO. The ‘source’ of the story is TMZ itself.  Gotta get those page hits for the Ad revenue. Even bottom-feeders have to pay the bills.

    They wouldn’t mind if readers thought they actually ‘had’ a source – but they don’t actually care if the story is so full of holes it reads like a piece of bargain bin faux swiss cheese. They know there are readers who will fill in the holes with assumptions, so it’s all good – for them. (maybe a totally imaginary third cousin two times removed who thinks Phillip ought to pay off his car for him, whatever.) That’s what they specialize in, after all. Lies dressed up as truth, from an ‘anonymous’ Imaginary source.

    Aww, poor TMZ. No one wants to return your calls. Right. Too bad, so sad.

  • teekee

    TMZ at it again. I have no clue what Phillip’s finanancial situation is so I’ll leave that be. Also don’t know how often he speaks to his parents, but on the off chance that he doesn’t speak to them often, I hope that he’ll find 5 min. a week to let them hear his voice.

    If he does talk to them regularly, then what I’ve said is moot,and that’s a good thing.

  • bridgette12

    That’s true, but none of the other Idol winners have never had as many hospital bills to pay as he has. Even if Phillip has good health insurance, he’s still going to have to pay a percentage out of pocket to pay off those bills. Plus, he has to think about what the future will bring and possible medical complications down the line. 

  • Chris

    I am sure they take taxes off the top so its probably still not enough to give his dad $200-250k. Maybe they could try a loan with the bank against future earnings but banks are not as generous any more either.

  • OffLeash

    Lame.
    1. P2 has said on numerous occasions, when asked about Home’s financial rewards, that he hasn’t seen a dime yet   

    2. The pawnshop was on the market before P2 auditioned for Idol.

    3. I wonder what the amount of co-pay for his surgery was, but I’m sure it must have been a significant sum for such a major surgery.

    4. The gf doesn’t work, and someone has to pay for her travel and shopping expenses.

    5. I don’t believe P2 has seen any money yet, and it might take him a while to pay back what he owes the hospital.

  • maymay

    PP lived with his parents and worked at his father`s pawn shop when he was 20. I think PP would like to help his parents if they are in touble.

    On the other hand, I hope PP`s family and gf don`t take their whole life to depend on his success. PP`s brother-in-law wanted to join his tour. PP`s gf gave up her nursing profession to follow him. But PP`s music career just begins.  Who knows whether he will become a super star? They should take care of themself and don`t expect to get anything gold from PP or use his fame to satisfy their desire.

  • OffLeash

    Yeah. One thing we’ve been able to ascertain from their own tweets is that the brother-in-law and the gf were/are counting on P2’s career for their own future. 

  • a445

    if Idol history is any indication he won’t be able to support those folks for more than a year or two.  At the same time, why not take that year or two to all be together if you can pull it off?  Memories for the rest of their life, that’s for sure!  As long as they have a healthy perspective on it…

  • vdawg

    I’m sure Phillip has no funds to help at this time.  He did not write Home so he is not making money on it right now.  Most artist make their money touring and I do not think he made that much on the Idol tour. His album has not come out and there are a lot of expenses he has to pay for now. He is not rich by any means. This is why you have to protect yourself from friends and relatives who are looking for a payday. 

  • elliegrll

    I think that this should be filed with the reports that Daughtry and Kris Allen left their wives after their AI seasons, and crossfiled with the one about Kris’ wife being pregnant at the time of their split. Which of course has a tab about Katherine McPhee being pregnant right off of AI.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I hope any vultures attracted to the auction by this report end up paying top dollar for random hand tools that P2 once dusted.

    It’d be nice to see something good come of TMZ’s penchant for casting aspersions the way monkeys throw sh*t.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    I would believe TMZ before I believe overinvested fans who think that they “know” Phillip because they saw him on TV.

  • kaylietoo

    mayay – Hannah has not given up her nursing career.  She’s doing it on-line right now and just tweeted this:

    Hannah Blackwell ?@HannahBlackwellFrosted cheerios, cleaning, and homework. I like it

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Please, post links to these non-existent reports.

  • OffLeash

    You can’t do a nursing program online to get your RN license. You have to show up at clinicals in person LOL.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    They should have thought twice before name the poor boy Phillip Phillips. lol j/k

    ETA: what is Hannah saying? the funniest reactions to these cheap pieces of gossip comes from her.

  • Kirsten

    Lame.

    1. P2 has said on numerous occasions, when asked about Home’s financial rewards, that he hasn’t seen a dime yet.

    When was the last time he said that? There are two things that could be at play here to make his answer honest but not quite truthful.

    First, when you buy something from iTunes, 9 cents doesn’t automatically get inserted into the artist’s account that same instant. Apple doesn’t report the sales to the label until 4-6 weeks after the end of the month and the labels typically pay only every quarter or twice a year. It can be months between when the sales happen and when the artist actually gets the money. The label will take as long to pay as it possibly can (most companies do).

    So, P2 may not have physically been given a dime, but those dimes are definitely coming and he should stop implying that they aren’t. Either he’s too dense to understand payment milestones or he’s being a little disingenuous.

    Other Idols have made money off of lesser selling songs they recorded during the competition and said that the cheques were welcome.

    The other possibility is that the coronation song is considered part of the album, so the recoupment costs are not just the cost of recording the one song as it is with the other in-season songs, but the advancement for the album. The advance for an in-season recording is $1K while it is $250K for the album ($125K within 7 days of signing and $125K within 7 days of finishing the album). So, in that case, he would have to sell more copies of “Home” than he has to get out of recoupment, but he’ll be paid for albums sooner. So, again, a little disingenuous.

    So, maybe he’s made no money from “Home”, but he has been paid an advance of $250K, at least $1K per night on the tour (close to $50K), $1K advance per in-season song, and union scale for every night he was on the show (provided he wasn’t considered a non-actor since he didn’t do the Ford commercials – that’s in the $800/show range). He will at some point (if he hasn’t yet) receive royalties from the in-season song sales, tour merchandise, Walmart album sales and the sales of “Home” (and if it is an album track, he will have to sell fewer albums to get out of recoupment).

    He also got paid $100K from each of Disney and Ford (for showing up at their events – I think he missed out on the Walmart shareholders meeting, but he’s probably picked up a few other events.

    So, while he isn’t set for life, he shouldn’t be implying he can only afford to eat Mac and Cheese.

    2. The pawnshop was on the market before P2 auditioned for Idol.

    This is why this article does not pass the sniff test.

    3. I wonder what the amount of co-pay for his surgery was, but I’m
    sure it must have been a significant sum for such a major surgery.

    I know it’s expensive in the States, but I’d be surprised if he used up all that money from above on co-payments.

    4. The gf doesn’t work, and someone has to pay for her travel and shopping expenses.

    I’m side-eyeing that expense. No way I would spend my money taking my able-bodied boyfriend on a multi-country tour instead of on my financially struggling parents. Most parents would die before asking their kids for money, but most kids would not want to see their parents suffer just so they don’t have to spend a few months apart from their main squeeze.

    If the parental units or on the verge of insolvency and part of the reason for that is they spent a lot of money helping you to win a lot of money, I think you might help them to cover some of those expenses before buying your girlfriend tickets to Asia. But that’s just me.

    5. I don’t believe P2 has seen any money yet

    I believe he has. The contract and past-Idols certainly seem to indicate that.

  • elliegrll

    If they are non-existent, how can I post links to them?

    After the seasons of the people that I mentioned, there were tabloid reports that listed this information.  I’m sure a Google search will bring up reference to them.  

    My point is that two of these people had stories about how being on the show resulted in them abandoning their wives/families, so this story about Phillip isn’t something new.  In those two cases the stories were totally false.  Just like it’s false that Katherine was pregnant.

  • mileyfan123

     While I don’t believe TMZ necessarily, or care about this story, I also don’t give a crap about fan accounts of his personal character either.

  • OffLeash

    I didn’t say he didn’t make any money. Just that all the money he’s made is probably being used to pay back what he owes, and that includes the hospital. The way I see it, all his (and maybe his gf’s) expenses are probably billed directly to his management/label.

    And yeah, surgery co-pay is verrrrry expensive in the States. You Canadians have no idea, luckily for you! :)

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Oh sigh. This stuff is so annoying.

    I can believe that Phillip and his family had no idea of what happened if you won and how he’d barely be able to get home at all. That’s about all I’ll believe. And he was home and looking happy to be there at Hallowe’en.

    I don’t follow Hannah but I do check on her Twitter every once and
    a while and she seems like a nice, intelligent, thoughtful person. She has a family as well, who just might be
    helping her out financially. I see nothing to indicate she’s using Phillip
    to get what she wants. For crying out loud, she’s been his girlfriend for 3 1/2 years! I think they know what they’re doing.

    His brother-in-law is someone Phillip admires, and the person Phillip picked to get a car as his mentor. He played lead guitar with Phillip regularly and even got on Idol, at Phillip’s request, to play with him. What’s hard to believe about the two of them planning to play together? And if that can’t happen now, for whatever reason, why wouldn’t he be upset? Again, that doesn’t mean he’s trying to hitch himself to Phillip’s wagon. I’d guess they’ll end up playing together at some point.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    I am familiar with everything that was written about Kris and there were no such reports about him, that’s all.

  • OffLeash

    lmao. I didn’t know about those reports. Was that TMZ too?

  • elliegrll

    I would never say that I’ve read every article about someone, since how would I know if I missed one?  But I remember this, and I also remember Kris’ mother tweeting about it.  It’s not a big deal, so I’m going to move on now.

  • Kirsten

     

    And yeah, surgery co-pay is verrrrry expensive in the States.

    But he’s made in the $500K range already. Surely the co-pay isn’t that much. Maybe if he wasn’t insured (but if he’s probably a member of ACTRA and they provide some sort of insurance).

    You Canadians have no idea, luckily for you! :)

    Actually, we do have an idea (the airwaves are full of ads scaring us into getting insurance when we travel to the US) and we aren’t lucky because we pay for it via taxes.

  • Larc

    They should have thought twice before name the poor boy Phillip Phillips. lol j/k

    Joking aside, there may be something to that.  But at least he’s had the option since he became 18 to have his name changed if he didn’t like it.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    No links then? That is why I never believe what somebody writes in a forum.

  • OffLeash

    I have what I believe is a very good health insurance plan for the US, but I would still have to pay a 20% co-pay for in-network surgery. And I think the fees in LA would be one of the highest in the nation. Not that it matters, but I’m not even convinced your 500k figure is right anyway. Besides, aren’t the promo expenses usually part of the advance? Eilonwy to the rescue!

  • julesb2183

    she also has stated she is taking Music Appreciation. LOL. Not nursing.

  • julesb2183

    I think he is rich by normal standards, but not rolling in it by Hollywood standards. Especially if he is paying for Hannah’s personal trainer.

  • Kirsten

     

    I have what I believe is a very good health insurance plan for the US,
    but I would still have to pay a 20% co-pay for in-network surgery.

    Yes, but if you had to pay $500K, that is a total medical bill of $2.5M. That’s a lot of medical care, even in the US. He wasn’t in an ICU bed for a year.

    but I’m not even convinced your 500k figure is right anyway.

    Well, Billboard summarized Scotty’s contract last year here:
    http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/legal-and-management/american-idol-draft-contracts-reveal-big-1005205202.story

    And MJ has the links to the actual contracts filed with the court here:
    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/scotty-mccreery-and-lauren-alaina-contract-details-revealed.htm

    Granted, it’s not Phil’s, but UMG would have a tough time arguing that the winner should get less in their second year after the winner’s success in the first year.

    The number for the Ford/Disney contracts have been reported a number of times and are in line with payments for major corporate events.

    If he got $250K as and advance, $20K for in season songs (they were recording multiple songs most weeks), $800 per live show (lets call it $20K), $200K for corporate events, $50K for merchandising rights and $50K for the tour, he’s over $500K before he gets any royalties.

    Besides, aren’t the promo expenses usually part of the advance?

    No, but some are recoupable before you are paid royalties.Advances do not have to be paid back if the album tanks.

  • MellyPer1692

    So she’s taking Music Appreciation? You don’t just take the courses directly related to your major. I graduated college with a business degree, didnt mean I didn’t have to take humanities classes, psychology classes and yes, I took Music Appreciation because it was a much needed respite from all the technical classes I had my senior year. She may be taking that class to get an elective done and its one that it easy to do with distance learning.

  • Incipit

    I hope any vultures attracted to the auction by this report end up paying top dollar for random hand tools that P2 once dusted.
    It’d be nice to see something good come of TMZ’s penchant for casting aspersions the way monkeys throw sh*t.

    Bwahahaha! – OK, Eilonwy. That’s the best analogy yet. IMO. Gonna save it for a tagline on every TMZ story comment from now until forever more. I’ll be happy to give you a ™ – 

    “TMZ casts aspersions like monkeys throw sh*t.” ™Eilonwy

    And then they *whine* that no one will dignify their ridiculous made-up stories by returning their ‘calls’. Poor little monkeys. *snerk*

  • OffLeash

    Sorry, I edited my post before I saw your reply. P2’s co-pay % could’ve been much higher, especially considering he had a pre-existing condition, which usually carries a huge penalty with health insurances if they accept you at all. And he spent a lot of time in the hospital since surgery was cancelled his first hospital stay because of a fever. He also had extensive travel and hotel expenses the last few months to promote his single. Who pays for that? Again, I’m not saying he didn’t make any money. but that most of whatever he made has probably been used for his living/traveling/medical expenses. I’d be surprised if all that was a freebee from Interscope.

  • maymay

    I really like PP`s debut album and listen to it`s preview many times. I hope this rumor won`t hurt it`s sales. PP should prepare to clarify this rumor bacause he might be asked to answer that on his tour. PP said he doesn`t
    want to become a super star but he should because some people`s future life could depend on his success.

  • OffLeash

    LOL. 

  • tripp_ncwy

    It is totally possible the 500k figure would included the Disney contract 100k (I’m going to Disney World”) + 100k Disney Idol Experience taping + 100k 19 merchandising advance + album advance + touring earnings (merchandise & shows). This is just based on previous contracts.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Besides, aren’t the promo expenses usually part of the advance? 

    Okay, a traditional advance is a lump sum that the musician uses to cover food, rent, guitar strings, and any travel that the label hasn’t budgeted for. There’s then a separate budget to record and promote the album. These days, labels are more likely to combine the traditional advance and the recording fund, letting the musician apportion it between living expenses and recording, thus assuring that most musicians will remain on the all-Ramen diet in order to afford a good producer. I don’t know which way Interscope goes with Idol contracts. (ETA: Hey, I could read the links Kirsten posted!)

    Either way, though, his advance and his possible future royalties are far from P2’s only stream of income. He has whatever he earned on the Idol tour. He is presumably paid for at least some of his post-Idol performances, and the going rate for Idol winners is usually pretty high. He may have some endorsement income that hasn’t made the headlines. And it’s possible he’s doing or has done some private shows, which really pay well.

    So P2’s not in the position of a brand-new major-label act that’s trying to get by on a normal 2012-level advance (much smaller than what an Idol winner gets) and hoping that touring will make money rather than costing money. He’s probably pretty financially solid, especially since we know he’s not blowing the money on designer clothes.

    That said, I hope he has a really good financial advisor, as musicians in general — even those with long-term major success — have extremely lumpy cash flow, which plays havoc with bill-paying and taxes, unless one has planned for it.

  • Kirsten

     

    He also had extensive travel and hotel expenses the last few months to promote his single. Who pays for that?

    The label. The show may have chipped in too because they send the kids on promo tours to promote the show and some of those September events were make-ups for missing his original post-show promo tour.

    Again, I’m not saying he didn’t make any money. but that most of
    whatever he made has probably been used for his living/traveling/medical
    expenses.

    Doubtful. It’s still a HUGE chunk of money. He may have had to do some major co-paying, but not as much as he has made (Crystal never complained about co-pays for her medical condition and she came in with no insurance and a pre-existing medical condition – she praised the insurance she got when she was on the show (probably either arranged by Idol or as part of the actor’s union). I don’t now. Even if he paid half, I don’t seen the bill for that illness being $1M. That’s like years of cancer treatment or months in an ICU.

     The show/tour/label have paid for his traveling and living expenses while he’s been on tour and promoting. He obviously doesn’t spend a lot of money on wardrobe, make-up or hair, so if his living expense for the few weeks he hasn’t been on tour/promo are in the $200K range, the first person he needs to hire is a financial planner. If he can burn through that much cash that fast, he’s never going to have enough money.

    I’m not saying he should give money to his parents, I’m just saying he has some.

  • Karen C

    OffLeash:

    You can’t do a nursing program online to get your RN license. You have to show up at clinicals in person LOL.

    In most nursing programs, you don’t do the clinincal rotations for the first year or so. There are usually several prerequisite courses, and also probably some general courses that all students will take, like English, History, Psycology, Sociology and this usually also includes a course in the arts, either music or visual arts.  So I could see where she would have to take a music appreciation class.  And she could very well be taking some of the other requirements online if her school has an online program, or through another college.   I’ve seen some colleges even have a major called pre nursing where you take the courses required before you enter the actual nursing part of the program.

  • guinness 416

    What a nasty little story.  I know TMZ makes stuff up about every star and wannabe that they cover, but this one doesn’t pass the smell test at all.  A clean cut xtian guy who can’t exactly melt into anonymity in his small town, and who appears on twitter to be in touch with old camp counsellors and the like, cutting off the family who hauled their asses to his every idol show and (presumably) paid for his kidney treatment?  Pffft.  Try harder TMZ!

  • OffLeash

    Thanks for the explanation. Now this whole discussion looks like I was trying to defend P2’s honor when I can assure you I wasn’t LOL. I thought P2’s income was much lower. I don’t believe parents should count on their children for financial support when their children are still this young and working at making their own future anyway. Not that I’m saying his parents are counting on him. That’s TMZ.

    That said, it looks like P2’s always paid his way (he was working at the pawn shop and went to the local community college,) so it doesn’t look like his parents got into debt on his account like TMZ seems to imply.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    I’m sure it’s all an exaggeration but there is probably a grain of truth in there.  Money brings out the ugly in people (and a whole host of relatives and “friends” you never knew you had!).

    It’s probably someone outside of P2’s immediate family.  I’d put bets on that brother-in-law who seems to want to ride P2’s coattails and latch himself onto everything.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Hmm. Just remembered an interview I read/heard? early on from his dad that he didn’t want Phillip feeling obligated to give them money, but that he wanted Phillip to get himself established. I also recall a report (TMZ?) that Phillip had given his parents his new car. Makes me think no one really knows anything. :)

  • OffLeash

    The nursing programs I’m familiar with, you need to get your prerequisites before even being considered for the program. They usually include math, psy, anatomy, sociology, history and anthropology. Whatever program she’s following, once you start the nursing program curriculum, you can’t get your degree and license by being an online student. You have to show up.

  • OffLeash

    If that’s what Phillips’ dad said, it’s a normal reaction from parents IMO. Yeah, I remember the car rumor, which I think turned out to be false, and it’s also been said he gave the car to his b-i-l. Who knows?

  • wkstrack

    Those reports about Daughtry, Kris, Katherine and I think many other Idols were from the National Enquirer. They use to have a lot of stories on Idol contestants back when the show was relevant. Remember the Carrie and Bo love triangle? It actually  made the cover! lol The one about Kris and Katy divorcing then planning on having a baby was denied by Kris. I think it’s a little strange how the likes of TMZ and the Enquirer are now doing stories on the American Idol winner when they seemed to have ignored guys like Lee and Scotty. Especially Scotty, who was a more popular winner than P2.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Why does Hannah have a personal trainer? She looks like she weighs 22 lbs. She’s young, if she is wanting to get in shape, why doesn’t she just go for a run?

  • Jordana33

    Of all the stories that TMZ has come up with about P2, this is the one I believe the least. After all of his health issues, I just can’t imagine his family complaining about not getting money from him so early in the game, unless they are complete opportunists. 

    At the same time, P2 tends to underplay a lot of things, so I really don’t believe that he hasn’t received any money. Comments about having no money are consistent with that struggling artist vibe he likes to portray in order to distance himself from American Idol. Unlike last year’s top 10, season 11 got paid very well for the tour, and he’s probably already been paid for a number of appearances. I’ve never heard prior winners complain about not having money in the beginning. After David Cook won, he used to mention how great it was to finally be in a position to help his family. Nevertheless, I still think that TMZ is full of crap. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    PP has made money already from the show and the summer tour, not to mention a cut of the tour merchandise and the itunes tracks and compilation albums. Then there is the Disney and Walmart Shareholder’s Meeting money.

    Most insurance policies have a deductable and a co-pay, but also have a maximum out of pocket number. That can be anywhere from around 5,000 to 10,000 per calender year. Even if his policy’s maximum out of pocket expense was at 10,000, P2 has plenty of money left to help his parents out.

    If he has time to go to the movies, out to eat and to DMB concerts with his girlfriend, he has time to call his parent once a week.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    5. The gf doesn’t work, and someone has to pay for her travel and shopping expenses.

    The gf comes from a wealthy family. She lives with her parents in a big house with land and horses. She could stay at home in her big, lovely home and finish school. She and her family are not destitute. What’s keeping her from getting a job? She should go out and find a job, like most young people her age have to do. Surely Daddy has some connections to help her find at least something part time.

    The gf is just that, a girlfriend. Family comes first.

    If PP’s gf’s traveling and shopping expenses come before helping his mother and father out, he isn’t much of a son or a man.

  • durbesque

    This story is too corny to be true.  I don’t believe it.

  • Incipit

    “…he has time to call his parent once a week.”

    Who says he is not, TMZ? And how would they know this, or anything – they have a tap on his phones? A direct line to his financial advisor? A private detective following his every move? 

    For pity’s sake, it’s already been established, “TMZ is full of crap.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    His Dad said he wasn’t calling home in an interview. The interview quoted P2’s dad.

  • OffLeash

    I agree with you the gf should be worrying about her own future and paying her way instead of tagging along. I wasn’t approving the possible gf related expenses. But since she’s shadowing him, maybe her expenses are combined with P2’s and billed to his account. I agree he shouldn’t be paying her way, just as I believe he shouldn’t be supporting his parents until after he’s established.

  • Incipit

    “The interview quoted P2’s dad.”

    Really? Where was that – not in this ‘story’. It has no quotes, no sources either. And TMZ doesn’t have a phone tap, an inside source to his finances, or a private detective report.

    However, if his Dad said something elsewhere that could be interpreted negatively,  that would explain where TMZ got the hook to hang their trash from…opportunistic little beggars that they are. And still “full of crap.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     I agree No Thanks. TMZ has a less than stellar reputation, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth to what they’re reporting… One thing I’ve learned through experience and seen repeated time and again is this – people show you who they REALLY are when someone dies, and there is money involved, and anytime there is money involved, heh. Money can bring out the ugly, or expose the true nature in people, depending how much is involved. Family is not immune, they’re usually the worst. The truth about this sitch is somewhere out there. Hope Philip has his head on straight, and a thick skin. Looks like he’s gonna need it.

  • quickjessie

    Don’t give a hoot about PP or his family, although they need to let their kid use his money as he sees fit – it’s his. 

    However, just wanted to weigh in on the phone calling issue, if there is one. 

    My 5 kids are all adults with families of their own.  They are busy living their lives – I do not expect a phone call every day or week.  However, when I call them and get the “machine”, it is expected they call back the second they get the message.  And they do, every one of them. 

    If PP’s Dad wants him to call he needs to pick up the phone himself.  Then if his son doesn’t return the call, he can bitch all he wants as PP would deserve it.  IMO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    http://www.walb.com/story/19400389/family-misses-american-idol-star-phillip-phillips

    His family is extremely proud of his accomplishments, but his dad says it’s bittersweet because they don’t hear from him much.

    “Whenever we get a call from him, or call him and get him somebody is always hollering at him he’s got to go,” said Phillips.

    Last week they talked to him on the phone for a minute, it’s the longest they’ve talked with him in months

    “He’ll text us, love ya’ll miss ya’ll gotta go, we appreciate the text but we want to hear your voice,” said Phillips.

    But even if it’s just for a minute, it’s worth it. “That one second is like a thousand years, it goes a long way,” said Phillips.

    His dad says he knows his son is doing what he needs to do, so he can be where he wants to be. But we often get caught up in life and sometimes forget to call the ones who mean the most, “One day you are going to wish you could hear the phone ring and at the end of the phone could be the voice you really care about. Sorry about that but we don’t take the time, it only takes a second to let someone know how you feel,” said Phillips.

  • OffLeash

    The plot thickens…

    (Todd Urick is from Leesburg, no idea what his relationship to the Phillips is)Todd U. toddurickarticle about Phillip putting his parents in debt is BOGUS. Lies are spread when certain people don’t get their way!@DarnellTigers85 Not faulting TMZ, certain family member trying to make a $ off phillip isn’t getting their way so they start lies.                    Todd U.
    ?@toddurickUh-Oh… Let the guessing game begin LOL.

  • Kirsten

    Incipit

    However, if his Dad said something elsewhere that could be interpreted
    negatively,  that would explain where TMZ got the hook to hang their
    trash from

    It probably sourced to that interview Phather Phil gave over the summer about how his son never has time to talk. Here is one linke “Phil Dad Phone” showed up (we did discuss it at the time):

    http://www.wetpaint.com/american-idol/articles/phillip-phillipss-dad-misses-him-while-hes-on-tour-video

    OffLeash:

    Yeah, I remember the car rumor, which I think turned out to be false,
    and it’s also been said he gave the car to his b-i-l. Who knows?

    That last one is actually true. We saw it on TV. Jessica and Phil gave cars to their mentors at the finale (well Ford gave them a car, but Jessica and Phil decided who in their lives would get them). Phil picked his brother-in-law as his mentor.

  • Kirsten

     

    Todd U. toddurick@DarnellTigers85 Not faulting TMZ, certain family member trying to make a $ off phillip isn’t getting their way so they start lies.

    Uh-Oh… Let the guessing game begin LOL.

    I’m guessing the B-I-L that didn’t get the touring gig. I don’t think I’ll be the only one with that guess.

  • OffLeash

    The BIL would seem like the logical guess, except I checked, and this Todd Urick person is the brother of the BIL. Now I’m confused as to who is married to P2’s sister: Ben or Todd? Not that I should be wasting any time wondering LOL.

  • Kirsten

     

    Now I’m confused as to who is married to P2’s sister: Ben or Todd? Not that it should be wasting any time wondering LOL.

    Well now, if TMZ isn’t going to stick to the facts, why should we? Details. Details.

  • OffLeash

    LOL

  • Incipit

    Todd here is just stirring the pot even further (and giving TMZ more ammo).

    Certainly is, isn’t he, Kirsten. Why ever would he “not fault” TMZ for printing unsourced rumors that he is stating are lies? Or maybe ‘he’ isn’t related to anyone? Who knows?

    Hey – somebody, (unknown, of course) could start another unsourced  rumor that Todd of the unknown relationship is the unidentified source, since he seems so interested in feeding the TMZ fire? TMZ would Flove it!

    What fun for everyone else! Not. Jerry Springer, is that you?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    For a minute there I thought this new family member’s name was Todd Toddurick, which whould make perfect sense in this family. lol

    Forget Whitney Houston’s family having a new reality show. This is the family that needs its own reality show series! Don’t forget to throw in the stalker gf! It could come on right after Here Comes Honey Boo Boo!

  • OffLeash

    LOL

  • Kirsten

    Hey – somebody, (unknown, of course) could start another unsourced
     rumor that Todd of the unknown relationship is really the unidentified
    source, since he seems so interested in feeding the TMZ fire? TMZ would
    Flove it!

    I LIKE IT!

    Okay, so I’ve been digging and I’ve discovered that Todd Toddurick is really Hannah’s ex-boyfriend (girl has a thing for guys with repetitive names). Turns out, that when she broke up with him for Phil (and it got really ugly. When she told him that Phil having the same repetitive name as his father beats his simple repetitive name, Todd actually tried to get his dad, Urik Toddurick, to change is first name, but Hannah wasn’t about to date somebody who would cheat to get the double-double), she nicked his (Todd’s) favourite old grey T-shirt. She CLAIMED it was because it was comfortable to sleep in and it was something to remember him by, so being the nice guy that he is, he let her keep it. Imagine his SHOCK when he tuned into American Idol to see her new guy wearing that very same T-chirt on the show. And just not one week. EVERY STINKING WEEK.

    Well, good ol’ Todd Toddurik is nobody’s fool. He knows that the clothes make the  man so his old grey T-Shirt had to have played a big part in Phil Phillips Jr’s success. He tried to be reasonable. He only asked for a 50-50 share of Phil’s winning, but Phil wasn’t prepared to be reasonable. He wasn’t even prepared to give Todd the time of day. He only talked to him for a minute over the phone before he said that somebody was hollering for him to come and play Twister. He never called back and everybody knows that even the longest game of Twister only takes about 20 minutes. So, Todd, he got tired of waiting by the phone and he is getting his revenge. Which, as everybody knows, is a dish best served cold.

    TMZ, here I come.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    This is a sumery who someone did in the P2´s idol forum:

     PP’s bro-in-law –

    Ellen Manalang ?@SMcCreeryKid
    @LaDUri @lacey2030 @toddurick @thebenneil http://tmz.me/SBoZEY TMZ’s lying right? i’m sure you guys won’t say such thing.

    Todd U. @toddurick
    @SMcCreeryKid
    His dad not getting his way! Complete LIE! Phillip is home w/ us now.
    Community pd. for his parents to travel to idol shows!

    Todd U. ?@toddurick
    article about Phillip putting his parents in debt is BOGUS. Lies are spread when certain people don’t get their way!

    I wonder who the ‘certain people’ are?

     PP’s sister –

    LaDonna P Urick ?@LaDUri
    @JacqueLauren don’t believe any of this… nothing but a huge lie.

    LaDonna P Urick ?@LaDUri
    @JacqueLauren makes me sick… they’re liars.

    ——–

    Who doesn´t know… P2 has 2 sisters married. LaDona and Lacey.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

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  • rodolfochengcanepa

     WTF are u talking about??!!! Todd is married to La Dona why u thonk that
    P2´s sister is LaDona Ulrik and no La Dona Phillips??? Todd is the BIL
    who used to play the “jambe” (or whatever it calls that kind of bongo),
    and Ben Neil is married to Lacey (P2 sister), Ben teached P2 to play the
    guitar; and they all are very closed.

  • Kirsten

    Who doesn´t know… P2 has 2 sisters married. LaDona and Lacey.

    Oh, come on. Nobody will buy that Phil Phillips has sisters with those names. Everybody knows they are called Philippa and Phillipina. And if they don’t know, that is what they would guess.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    oh i see, u are trying to be funny then… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

    You are so Funny!!! i cracked a lot! u should have ur own show.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    oh i see, u are trying to be funny then… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

    You are so Funny!!! i cracked a lot! u should have ur own show.

  • OffLeash

    P2 has 2 sisters married. LaDona and Lacey.

    Ha! That explains the confusion. I thought P2 only had one sister, married to this Ben Ishouldbeonthetour dude. So Ben and Todd weren’t related, but married the sisters. Gotcha. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    This is too funny!

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Todd U. @toddurick@SMcCreeryKid
    His dad not getting his way! Complete LIE! Phillip is home w/ us now. 
    Community pd. for his parents to travel to idol shows!

    Oh, good grief, Phillips relatives! Just sell film rights to the family Thanksgiving dinner to TLC, and invest that money to take care of Phather Phillips. Between one BIL fussing about not touring and the other bad-mouthing the father on Twitter, I’m sure there’s enough material for at least a two-hour Very Special Presentation.Poor Parents-of-GF, wondering if they’re eventually going to have to hold a wedding with these tacky people. At least P2’s Idol win makes it likely he’ll be able to support a family, which is not a given when one’s daughter takes up with a semi-employed guitar player.

  • justmefornow

    This saga is better than the James/Dylan soap “As the Metal Rusts”.
    This one could be called “As the Phillips Phight”. lol

    Can’t wait for the next episode.

  • OffLeash

    LOL. Except that from what I heard, the gf’s family aren’t any classier. :D

  • Jaejae1

    I don’t believe this story one bit.  They are probably selling the business BECAUSE Phillip might be doing pretty well.  They seemed like a really tight family so i can’t imagine P2 not helping out if there was a problem to whatever stint he could. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Tacky is the right word for this whole hot ass mess of a ‘story’, lol… Philip is not really all that interesting or newsworthy, he needs some kind of media presence – perhaps this is his mgmt’s attempt to create cheap buzz in the run up to his CD release —> “Problems in the Pawn Shop – Philip Phillips Is A Parsimonious Prick!!!  “”Philip Be Bogarting Them Benjamins!!! 

    Can’t wait for the next installment – TMZ and his family are going to be providing what looks to be lotsa lulz :)

  • OffLeash

    I know bad publicity is supposed to be better than no publicity at all, but I don’t really see how presenting P2 as a cheap ungrateful b@stard and this sordid family feud is going to help with sales. If that’s the management’s latest promo stunt, they sure ran out of good ones LOL.

  • girlygirltoo

    except they have been trying to sell the pawn shop since before Philllip even went on Idol…

  • MellyPer1692

    They opened themselves up for this with that tacky ass auction listing. Reminded me of Drew Barrymore’s mother selling her baby clothes on EBay to make a buck.

  • OffLeash

    Yes they did. The way the father presented it reeked of snake oil…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     It’s got us talking, hasn’t it? *wink*  The most commented on post today… there are IMO so many other more noteworthy posts deserving of more attention and more comments – why does it seem we all have gravitated to the salacious, tacky, gossipy one? :) The end goal is to have us remember PHILIP PHILLIPS… I don’t believe they really care how that comes about, as long as they get and keep people talking about him… they can work the ‘small town pawn shop boy hits the big time, leaves Home AND his family holding the bag’ angle for some cheap buzz up thru the CD drops, lol

  • OffLeash

    And I thought capitalizing on double platinum sales was the way to go! ;)

  • jpfan2

    Yes because there’s a direct correlation between posts here and how someone’s music career is going….not.  It”s going to be all about the singles…just like for every other artist out there.

    I guess you could argue all publicity helps but in the end I don’t think it really makes a difference.

  • OffLeash

    And unfortunately, the second single, judging from the snippet I heard, might not help much. Let’s hope the full version redeems it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    You’d think it would be enough, for real, lolol… The music biz is all about ‘what have you done for me lately’… he’s got to sell some CD’s now, and get enough radio play for the next single to help sell that CD… if not, he gonna be in the same boat with a lot of alums who couldn’t answer the WHUDFML question after having some success with debut singles or albums… his career for me is going to be fun to watch play out, as I’m not a fan of his music, don’t think he can really sing – but dang if Iovine and his team don’t deserve major props for helping Home become a 2x platinum success.  If they can get this guy a double platinum single I’m curious to see what they have up their sleeves to see a whole CD of Philip’s music to the masses. If they can pull off another sales coup for the CD like they did for the single Home, I’m declaring Iovine and Interscope freaking geniuses, lol.

  • jpfan2

    “If they can pull off another sales coup for the CD like they did for the single Home, I’m declaring Iovine and Interscope freaking geniuses, lol.”

    What sales coup would that be? Please don’t say the Olympics because that’s a dim memory now. Meanwhile the song is still climbing the radio charts. ;0

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Yep, I’m aware the number of posts has eff all to do with someone’s career health… if that were so, some recent winners and runners up would be legitimate superstars and not the little fish in the big shark pond of the industry, heeheh…  who would have thought Philip Phillips would be having the initial success he’s having so far –  he’s not been accused of making ovaries shake or explode, he’s not fierce or glamorous, has no swagger, can’t dance or even really sing, lol… I’m not hatin’ Philip fans, I’m just being real.   He is the Teflon Idol, and I like following him because I want to see what the eff is going to happen next – so far he is bulletproof, lol…

  • OffLeash

    Adam is arguably the alum with the most comments here, but it didn’t translate into matching sales, so I’m not buying the buzz manufacturing theory to encourage sales. Maybe it used to work, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. I hope Jimmy and Co have a better plan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Crafting a (coronation) song that people actually liked and bought, along with securing hi profile gigs and exposure to help buttress sales. Luck and good timing and opportunity had a lot to do with it too, but IMO it all goes back to the song itself… I personally didn’t care for Philip at all on Idol, found all his vocal performances cringeworthy – but I liked Home on the finale, liked it enough to download it… how in the hell did that happen? lol… Imagine if there are a couple more songs like that up his sleeve, and his team are somehow able to give him and them the right push, the right exposure – the kind that results in sustained sales and sustained radio support? I want to see if they will pull it off – it’s exciting! :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     LOLOL – I know… I replied to jpfan2 with my thoughts on the comment/buzz  thingy :)

  • jpfan2

    Then we’re on the same page. The song is really #1. Unfortunately, even the most buzzworthy celeb will have issues when the songs don’t connect.

  • OffLeash

    I just saw that. We do agree then that bad publicity these days is just that: bad publicity lol.

    I too find P2’s journey fascinating enough to follow closely. Whatever people might think of him as an artist and a singer, what happened with Home is unexpected and mind boggling, and many of us are curious to find out what will happen next.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     *thumbs up*  The excitement for me is watching and waiting to see if he can do it again.

  • getaway1

    Unbelievable.  Not interested in idle gossip. 

    Way more stoked that The World From The Side Of The Moon seems to be getting a good response from the media outlets that posted the song snipets. 

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

    THE COUNTERATTACK “GOOD PUBLICITY”

    Hollywood Reporter
    ?@Idol_Worship

    Phillip Phillips’ ‘Home’ Gets Hurricane Sandy Remix; The ‘American Idol’ Winner Gives Back http://j.mp/POnI0A

     

  • kaylietoo

    How do you know she comes from a wealthy family?  Isn’t her dad a minister?  A big house with land and horses in So. Georgia does not cost much money, and maybe it was a family home from other generations.  

    Nobody knows how Hannah is traveling and who’s paying for it — it’s all just pure gossip.  P2 is close to his family – he was jut home for Halloween and tweeted a photo with his two nieces.  This TMZ article is pure rubbish.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    Since all we are hearing is gossip and innuendo,  there may be many reasons the family business going under–the economy, bad business decisions, etc.   So perhaps Phillip feels like he is beating a dead horse.     Everyone today has their own personal/money problems.   Not being mean, just being real.  Besides Idol doesn’t pay like the Xfactor, and it might take all Phillip won to bale them out which would leave him with nothing and a career to start in this downward music atmosphere today. 

  • getaway1

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/phillip-phillips-home-hurricane-sandy-386230

    It’s ashame the attached is never given the attention it deserves.  Not surprising, because it’s about doing something good. 

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    Tacky are some comments in here. People know absolutly nothing about P2 or his family but they start to invent worse stories than TMZ. Tacky are the people who enjoy this kind of situation and even wait or desire 4 more drama. Tacky are the people who doesnt like this kid and dont lose the opportunity to talk bad about him or his relatives (with or without reason).

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     THAT WAS GREAT  :-)

  • Chris

    Even if Phillip has earned $500K (sounds high with no album until later this month, but I’ll go with it for now), that kind of money will get taxed at the highest rate – 35% Federal, another chunk for Social Security on top can be as high as 15%, state of Georgia and local tax takes another slice.  That’s why rich people complain so much.  $500K can easily gets cut in half, especially for a single guy, no tax shelters.

    On medical insurance, we can’t speak for the family but it varies widely.  People that work for major companies, unions, or government jobs have the best insurance.  Phillip worked for his father’s pawn shop – self employed people tend to not have the best insurance, but none of us know.  Either way, co-pays and medical bills have driven many families to debt.

  • durbesque

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/phillip-phillips-home-hurricane-sandy-386230

    It’s amazing how ‘Home’ adapts itself to different situations. 
    It’s perfect for the Sandy tragedy…uplifting in the face of despair.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Use tragedy for career advancement…tacky.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     SHE TALKED ABOUT THE SONG AND DON’T THINK THE SONG HAS A CAREER. IT’S THAT FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE FEEL BETTER WHEN THEY LISTEN IT. FOR THE RECORD I’M NOT A “HOME” FAN.

  • roarpen

    After reading this I feel like I have time-traveled into the middle of a Beverly Hillbillies episode.

  • KatMyers

    Major LULZ.  This just keeps getting more popcorn-worthy.

  • Chris

    Good point.  None of us know the pawn shop, but it may not be worth giving up every cent Phillip has to save a business that will only fail in the future because there just isn’t money to be made.  From what I recall, the pawn shop was robbed right?  So maybe they need to invest a lot of security, etc.. just to keep it going.  Plus, there are so many big box, discount stores, not sure if there is a huge draw to pawn shops to buy.  To sell, yes, but most people probably head to Black Friday at Walmart for cheap TVs, jewelry…   Its like a family trying to stay in a home that’s a money pit.  Yes, it can have emotional value, but you can’t make a living.

  • Jordana33

    That’s why rich people complain so much. 

    I know….it sucks to be rich. LOL. 

  • thirdtime

    LOL, I’ve been so busy lately after not having power for several days from the hurricane, I haven’t had a chance to stop in here lately…that is until I signed on to AOL tonight and saw a big picture of Phillip with the caption “Idol star refuses to help struggling family” – I just had to come in here quick to read the comments on this one.  I knew you guys would have some funny stuff to say!

    Oh Phillips clan.  They really do need their own reality TV show.

  • Chris

    Actually, it sucks to get a windfall of money, because family and the average person assumes you’re a heck of lot richer.  The tax man cometh.  And to add insult to injury, you usually have to hire an accountant and a lawyer :-)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    PP was working for Idol, not his father’s pawn shop, at the time of his surgery. Just like Crystal, he probably had the best insurance benefits he had ever had while he was on the show and on the summer tour.

    All those surgeries and medical problems throughout the years were covered by his parents though, and you are right, they probably didn’t have the best insurance. There is no telling what his mom and dad had to pay out of pocket for their son’s health expenses over the years. I guess P2 forgot about all that.

  • Chris

    Do you think Idol picked up all his medical bills during the show and tour?  I had not assumed they would be so generous.  The little medical guy that approves him going on stage, sure but not all the treatments during the season, the actual surgery, and post care.

    If they covered it in full and still gave him his winnings, that’s quite kind.  Sick people should apply just to get health care.

  • maymay

    Maybe some people who always don`t like PP hope this TMZ report is true, so they can blame and mock Phillip. In fact they already blame and mock PP. Next war field will be PP`s debut album sales if it doesn`t sell well.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    He was under their healthcare. I’m sure PP had to pay the deductable and out of pocket maximum amount. For most decent to average health care plans, that maximum is around 5,000 to 10,000 per year, which includes the deductable expense.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     ALL THAT “PROBABLY” TELL ME THAT YOU ARE LIKE TMZ , YOU WORK WITH A SECRET SOURCE, IN THIS CASE YOUR IMAGINATION

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I would believe TMZ before I believe overinvested fans who think that they “know” Phillip because they saw him on TV.”

    I agree. It’s nuts how some rabid fans defend their favorites and sound like they actually know them in real life.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Todd U. @toddurick
    @SMcCreeryKid
    His dad not getting his way! Complete LIE! Phillip is home w/ us now.
    Community pd. for his parents to travel to idol shows!”

    Todd has now deleted this tweet. Hmmm …..

  • Jordana33

    Actually, it sucks to get a windfall of money, because family and the average person assumes you’re a heck of lot richer.  The tax man cometh.

    Only people who’ve been rich their entire lives have that perspective. Otherwise, they’d realize that it’s far more painful to pay taxes when you earn very little, than to pay taxes when you earn a lot, even if you’re in a higher tax bracket. They’d also realize that it’s more frustrating to not be able to help family members, than to be in a position where you can help them, even if it means having to set boundaries with the entitled distant relative who suddenly shows up expecting money. I say this from personal experience, although my version of “winning the jackpot” was merely getting a decent job after struggling financially through grad school and years of fellowships.  This is why I don’t believe that TMZ article for one minute, particularly given what I’ve seen of P2. And if he really can’t help them, the reasons are none of our business.    

    And to add insult to injury, you usually have to hire an accountant and a lawyer :-)

    The first time I realized that I could afford to pay someone to do my taxes rather than do them myself was a life-changing moment.  Having to hire a lawyer or an accountant is not my idea of a hardship; this should be obvious in light of all the people on the East Coast who just lost their homes. 

  • maymay

    If you can find a rapid PP fan,   you can also find a rapid anti-PP fan. He is just like any celebrity who some people always love, and some people don`t.

  • guinness 416

    Oh Phillips clan.  They really do need their own reality TV show.

    These stories (and these comments!) make me laugh but in truth I’m pretty sure the media could spin your or my situation into a circus if they wanted.  If I struck big f’rinstance – not likely, unless there’s a reality show for person with the prettiest pets – they could come up with a great, hysterical story combining that I haven’t visited my cousin with cancer in a year (true, we live on different continents), I wasn’t there when my grandma got out of hospital (ditto), that I have a relative who failed out of seminary because he likes women too much (true, and hilarious) and that there have been addicts in my family (also true, and they get nothing but the best support) among other things.  But we’re a normal, sane, unremarkable, pretty close middle class family.  Instruction number one from management/the idol winner to family and friends should be – no twitter, certainly no drunk or vague tweeting, and no taking calls from the “news” media.

    It’s far more painful to pay taxes when you earn very little, than to pay taxes when you earn a lot

    No kidding, what the hell?  The whining people do about tax brackets is insufferable.  I’m pretty sure nobody ever said “Oh no, keep that extra couple hundred thousand, I don’t want my tax bill to go up or to have to go up in accountant quality from H&R Block.” 

  • jpfan2

    “Use tragedy for career advancement…tacky.I agree.”

    He’s doing a concert for charity. I don’t think he or his people did the song remix.
    Most Idols do charity gigs. Is that tacky?

     “It’s nuts how some rabid fans defend their favorites and sound like they actually know them in real life.”

    Having rabid fans defend your every move iss standard for Idol. P2 is unique because many of the people here who avidly follow his private life aren’t his fans. ;0

    Home got another massive updates on CHR today so expect the hear the song ALOT!

  • jpfan2

    Should also add that the song got a big update on CHR today so expect to hear it ALOT.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    It could be amazing, since, like Steven Tyler noticed, he’d a great actor someday, rather than a great musician.

    The Phillips Family!

    I can imagine it would a cross between Honey Boo Boo (since they’re kinda country and their main character is on a talent competition) and The Kardashians (since now they’re rich and are vying for fame and money between themselves, according to TMZ). Tell me you wouldn’t at least take a peek.

  • jpfan2

     

    I don’t find his family interesting enough to follow as reality TV. Although P2 is pretty cute so that might draw some viewers. But how many people connect Home with P2. Come on 19, get the high profile TV gigs going!

  • OffLeash

    Home will be #1 on AAA tomorrow for the weekly update! :)

  • Chris

    Quite a generous bonus and impeccable timing. That complete battery of treatments, surgery, and follow up had to cost a small fortune and it sounds like without Idol, he would still be limping by.

  • kaylietoo

    Do you think it’s fair to judge P2 without know the facts?  This is pure gossip.

  • Chris

    Bottom line, $500k, may net $200 to $250k. Can a single guy live well in the short run, course. Can he afford to give it all away this soon? Doubtful. He is not on easy street yet and music is a fickle beast. Should he give back to his parents? Of course. But riding in on a white horse to save the pawn shop is something maybe a richer person like Simon could do similar to saving Fantasia.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    Yeah, I don’t think Phil has made that much actual liquid cash yet, but it looks like the family was hoping more for Phil to help publicize the auction- maybe that is the reason they are miffed, I don’t know.  Didn’t Phil bring his brother-in-law on stage to play with him on Idol- he seems family oriented still, but he’s just a young kid, who knows what might have happened.  It’s easy to have your head turned- Miley Cirus seemed to have trouble with her family when she got famous- and they seemed about as close as you can get- after all, they were responsible for her success, even.

  • kaylietoo

    P2 had nothing to do with this, and I guess you haven’t followed other Idols knowing that they ALL have done benefits to raise money for tragedies.

  • fantoo1

    Is Phillip’s family poor? I was just wondering what their financial situation was like.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t think that P2’s parents have a lot of disposable income because as I recall, the community donated $$ so that they could afford to go to watch P2 on Idol.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Since no one in the public will ever know the total “facts” about P2 and his family, then it’s all speculation about the TMZ piece, either positive or negative. There are bits and pieces of info that have been offered by P2’s father, but even then, no one outside of the situation (especially fans) know what’s really happening.